Jodi’s Appeal – Reply Brief (PDF Download)

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1. I found this article/re-posted comment of Matt yesterday (I guess a comment he has made on this site here right?):

   https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/matt-mccartney-jodi-arias-is-innocent-jodi-arias-trial/

   I always wondered why there is no footage at all from Matt’s testimony/hearing on YT (btw probably the only good looking and decent (ex)boyfriend of Jodi, except Brewer maybe who was a decent guy too but a little too weak as a man imho, but still much better than pedo bear but that’s not very hard to accomplish, anybody is better than THAT pathetic and disgusting guy).
   Was it sealed? Even after the trial? Or has anybody a link I can’t find for whatever reason?

   Also, I find it strange when he as a friend didn’t go on the stand out of own will although Jodi let him off with a very noble gesture.
   As he says himself “Her life is on the line. She could get the death penalty. ”

   I mean even if she let him off after he asked her not to be involved wouldn’t it be the duty of a friend to do it anyway, especially given the circumstances and what is on stake?
   I find that strange to say the least. I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I could help but still wouldn’t becasue of very superficial and selfish reasons (“so as not draw attention to myself or my new family “). Really? When someone could die for no reason other than a corrupt justice system? People are strange…I don’t get that.

   • She knew the Mormon Mafia was out there. Protect and reflect.

     • Wow what a get out of this alive moment. She is still breathing. Something went down there.

     • Maybe, but it’s still not totally clear to me how Jodi really thinks about that ridiculous and despicable fraud/money scam/etc. cult today.
       It wouldn’t change my opinion about it at all though. Just the fact I support and like her as a human being, and think she is most likely innocent altogether and definitely a victim of a degenerated and disgusting public/media lynch mob and a corrupt to the core justice system, at the very worst partly guilty, does not mean I accept or support any nonsense or even despicable cults. My brain would not allow that. 🙂
       I mean I’d probably argue with her endlessly about all the god stuff and esoteric nonsense like law of attraction. I mean being spiritual to some degree and positive thinking and all, yes sure, but not that kind of nonsense. 🙂

     • Jodi deserves a second chance.I don’t know what happened.Jail is not a solution.This woman is a talented person.She can do a lot of good.

       • What’s up Steve,

         If you want to know more, please read this synopsis of the case that was created by another long time supporter. I think it will be very informative.

         http://jodiarias.justice4usall.com

         • In Canada: a life sentence is no more then 25 years (maximum). Canada does not have the death penalty.If Jodi was in Canada:she would not be serving longer then 25 years anyway.I can’t see Jodi being a hardened criminal.A model prisoner in Canada is out on parole in 10 years.The American Justice System says life is life.Life in Canada’s system is never more then 25years:if the prisoner has good behavior:the prison system will look at that .Canada believes in a rehabilitative approach for inmates:not condemnation.In U.S.A.there is no hope for the future if you are an inmate.Even if Jodi has to serve some time ;this woman should not have to spend her natural life there.My point is that the sentence is cruel and unusual.Jodi would be more productive out of prison then being there.Jodi is not a criminal.I have actually never met Jodi.;but based on what I have learned;Jodi would be better off not being behind bars.Jodi does not fit the type of character a criminal is.

2. The publicity of that trial was a feeding frenzy for tabloid media and it was definitely benefiting the prosecution at the time. I kept thinking what a mistake it was to have a trial in which the jurors were not sequestered. The prosecutor also got away with throwing a piece of evidence (camera) on the floor in his theatrics. Given that the trial made for great ratings for HLN etc…..there became a mix of trial and drama to the detriment of the accused’s rights. That plus the accused’s own lawyer’s misplaced statements about not liking Jodi 9 out of 10 days as a way of trying to ingratiate himself with the public and jurors, knowing how angry the public was toward him, were just a few of the many issues in that trial. If that trial is not an unfair example of due process, I don’t know what is. We shall see.

3. That’s an old comment of mine …don’t know how it ended up in new discussion…Anyway, if I remember correctly, the old boyfriend Matt didn’t want to testify for whatever reason like being in a new relationship but I also remember Juan making comments which were really threats that if Matt appeared in Court, Juan would likely be accusing him of perjury…someone from the deep dark past may be able to say more about that…but I seem to remember he was frightened about what would happen if he did go to court.

   • That’s sick, thanks for clarification Judy.

     Cheap and dirty, everything Kermit is able to – I think he misses those two things in his auto-sex life as a wanker. 🙂

   • Hey Judy, do you remember the judge stating that she felt Jodi was guilty? I was thinking that this also happened during the trial. Maybe someone from the olden days will remember……….I might have even dreamed it. It’s all been an ongoing nightmare!

     • Imho, even if it was kept unverbalized (I really don’t know even though I think I might have watched all of the footage by now and have a very good memory, but the recording of the retrial was shabby including the audio to say the least so I can’t be 100 % sure) you could still read it between the lines and from all her rulings/actions/overall demeanor/etc. – even at the day of final sentencing where she took like 5 minutes to read I don’t know how much support mail for Jodi and like over 50 examples for similar cases and their sentences which she got from Willmott.
       A joke…a caricature of a court, a justice system, a judge and a prosecutor (and his tolerated unacceptable demeanor and cheap/shabby tricks by said so-called judge and his never-ending misconduct on I don’t know how many occasions and levels), then the eye-rolling and smirking self-righteous, evil and revengeful dipshits in the courtroom who will all end up in hell if I’m wrong and there is unexpectedly actually one :-), the media circus in correlation with the not sequestered jury and whatnot, this whole thing, a shame.
       I mean even from her objection handling, wow, Kermit came through with almost any objection as opposed to the defense, but even if the defense got the objection granted Kermit could basically ask the same question thereafter and the objection was then overruled – and like 1001 more examples of similar misconduct. It made no sense so very often – there was no logic at all in the handling of overruling or sustaining objections. It was rule of thumb estimate at best because she it too stupid or just blatant bias/corruption.

       Kermit and the housewife being like Kermit and Miss Piggy in that Muppet show of a trial.
       Who can even doubt for a second that this overstrained housewife was biased to no end (or even corrupt, keywords: general attitude/guidelines of the Maricopa County Att office, possible LittleDumbassesService aka LDS cover-up, etc.) as much as Kermit was.

4. Ahem…HOW in the freaking hell was the tiny dwarf “breast (caricature of a) man” ever allowed to change his fairy tale when this ruling took place prior to that fairy tale change and was the basis for aggravation in the first place?:

   https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/23/detective-grilled-on-change-of-story-in-jodi-arias-trial/17811643/

   ———————–
   Martinez was allowed to pursue the cruelty aggravator after a court hearing Aug. 7, 2009, in front of Superior Court Judge Sally Duncan, who had the case before Judge Sherry Stephens.

   In her ruling, Duncan wrote:

   “The State presented evidence that the victim was first shot on the right side of his head near his eye with a .25 caliber handgun and that the bullet lodged in his left cheek. This wound was not fatal and may or may not have rendered the victim unconscious. The victim did not remain unconscious based on the infliction of the other wounds and the location of blood spatter evidence in the bathroom sink and blood in the hallway. In addition, the defendant told the police that the victim was unconscious after being shot but then crawled around and was stabbed.
   The victim was then stabbed 27 times in the back, shoulders, head and chest. Cuts on the hands were defensive wounds from grabbing the knife. With the exception of two wounds, these wounds were not fatal. The two fatal wounds were a deep stab wound to the chest and then a cut across the throat. While conscious, the victim would have felt pain and mental anguish associated with these multiple wounds.”

   Duncan allowed Martinez to allege cruelty. She did not allow him to allege that the crime was heinous or depraved.

   And according to court records, during an interview conducted by Nurmi in May 2011, Flores was still maintaining that Alexander had been shot first, based on autopsy results.

   Martinez presented the new theory in November 2012, just before picking a jury for the first trial.
   ——————————–

   This case and everything about it is so outstanding fishy.
   Could it not be that the ridiculous con-man+gangsta cult and state of the art mor(m)on religion LDS has anything to do with all the cover up and influence on a biased judge/court and that caricature of a prosecutor/county attorney office? I mean for real and not as a superficial conspiracy theory I’ve read already about here and there.
   Before I knew that Jodi admitted to killing that obese and uneducated dwarf with the most shabby character you can even think of and a missing chromosome according to his stupid face expression I thought anyway that the ridiculous LDS cult had something to do with it. Right from start, even before I knew remotely what I know now about the case, I thought that might at least be possible.
   Afaik they are really powerful in Utah and I think in Az as well, and worldwide too due to a lot of money/profit they make by pressing 10 % out of their outstanding superstitious and unbelievable dumb followers who, for example, believe in a 14 year old convicted con-man kid as a “prophet” who received “golden plates” from the almighty blue spaghetti monster in the woods somewhere in NY in the 1820’s (or probably just the dishes from his mom because he forgot to do his kitchen duty lol). As well as in their translation into *cough* “scripture” by sticking a head into a hat and using some stones that were prior used for other frauds (“finding” silver mines or something if I recall right) by that same 14 year old con-man, in jew origin in North America (which can even be disproven scientifically in a direct way by DNA – of course only if you believe in DNA hehe), men becoming “gods” (looooool) and women being basically worthless breeding machines and trash only there to serve those self-proclaimed “gods”, planet “Kolob”, living “prophets” who directly talk to god and whatnot. In addition the history of blatant racism, misogyny, etc.
   I have to quote Bill Maher about Mor(m)onism again since I really love this quote: “This religion is sooooo ridiculous Tom Cruise wouldn’t join it – and Glenn beck did!” 🙂

   I seriously can’t get over it HOW extremely ridiculous that religion/church is and that it has more than 0 followers who are actually stupid enough to fall for that oh so very obvious fraud, and that even among all other religions which are all basically frauds and hocus-pocus – LDS still stands out massively in terms of ridiculousness.
   And this video shows only a micro part of the whole absurdity. It’s hysterical that the human race at this stage of evolution still has mor(m)ons like that within its population who can believe in such blatant nonsense:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY39CCebj6I

   This guy is hilarious too. I strongly recommend watching his videos. I couldn’t stop laughing when I discovered that years ago. The mor(m)on church is REALLY better than a library with a collection of the best jokes that were ever told. Too bad it is not satire and they are serious about it, a real downer for the human gene pool but at least the pedo bear did his part to improve it:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wwt78_vqc0

   • “This case and everything about it is so outstanding fishy.
     Could it not be that the ridiculous con-man+gangsta cult and state of the art mor(m)on religion LDS has anything to do with all the cover up and influence on a biased judge/court and that caricature of a prosecutor/county attorney office”

     Bingo.

     I live in SLC, not a native so it maybe easier to see as an outsider who had a run with a different branch of religion early in life. I’ve spent years looking at the manipulation of our society by government/media and religious hands. I didn’t pay too much attention to Jodi’s case when it was happening because I couldn’t. I saw one day’s worth of headlines and prosecution and knew there was more to this story. Now that I’ve been in the Mormon capital for the last three years.. I have no doubt. Something similar happened about 150 years ago at Mountain Meadows. (Search keywords: mountain meadows massacre). I believe that this whole ordeal should fall at the feet of the church, but I doubt it ever will. He was how he was with her as a psychological response to the types of repression encouraged by the Church that he lived with growing up. The fishiness of the investigation, the holes in the narrative that we still have… It’s being covered up by a powerhouse of skullduggery.

   • I think you’re right on the money here. I currently live in SLC and as a non native as well as someone who has looked intently for the past several years at the religious and governmental manipulation occuring against our whole species… You, sir, are staring right at the truth of the matter. I have no doubt that the Church is complicit in the cover up of the travesty that has occurred against Jodi. A similar cover-up happened over 150 years ago at a place called Mountain Meadows. (Search keywords: mountain meadows massacre). The cult made TA who he was. Repression of natural drives for a fantasy has a real effect on people. I’m certain that any unbiased psycholgist would agree. His upbringing gave him an unhealthy relationship to his sexuality. It evolved him into the person that (maybe) only Jodi knew. There are a ton of factors at play, I know. But, again, I have no doubt in looking at this situation that the indoctrination of this religious organization is at fault. Both in the death and in the cover-up of the truth of this occurance. I think Jodi was sucked right into the belly of this beast.

     I wasn’t able to engage when this was all going on because I was revolted after only a couple of days of the mockery of justice that was occurring and knew, without a single detail about the incident, that serious skullduggery was afoot. I knew this poor girl was being run through the ringer and knew that no amount of digging for the truth would make any difference. It was only after moving here and interacting with LDS folk, and after a chance scroll past a documentary on Jodi where an LDS friend was speaking on behalf of his friend (that guy knows more about what really happened.. just a hunch) that I realized I had moved to the area where much of this played out and my curiosity was spurred to dig in and see what I might find. This is it. There are holes in the story that simply do not add up, lest one considers the power and influence of the organization here.

   • Frank:
     Re: Duncan ruling:

     “… In addition, the defendant told the police that the victim was unconscious after being shot but then crawled around and was stabbed. …”

     Is there a police transcript of Jodi telling police that Travis was unconscious prior to all the knife wounds (as the above quote and its following paragraph imply)?

     1. For how long was Travis unconscious after the gunshot?

     2. Did Jodi see him crawling before or after she left the bathroom, or could she him from the bedroom?

     3. Could he have crawled into the bathroom linnen closet and this better explains (than walking erect) the blood puddle under the lowest closet shelf because it was spurting and did not have to clear the upper shelves?

     • Yes Michael, I think it’s part of the Yreka interrogation on day 2 when she came up with the “Ninja story”. But does it really matter?
       We know most or at least many of the things she told in Yreka where rubbish to cover up for this whole sick and embarasing relationship to that douche, for sure the stuff about the actual incident.
       I think she said he was making strange noises like moaning/crying or something and might have been unconscious for a short moment. That might be taken from the actual events, I mean who wouldn’t probably be stunned at least for a moment after a shot to the head, I don’t know – my last shot to the head was a while back lol!? – or completely made-up, I can’t say.

5. ARGUMENT 4:
   Arias was forced to wear a stun belt throughout trial, thus violating her right to a fair trial.

   I didn’t know about this violation until last year when somebody else brought this up. I would love to know what criteria the court used to justify this. If I remember correctly, a stun belt is applied to a defendant if they have been unruly or threatening in court and which Jodi was neither.
   The “expert” witness issue is also interesting considering Jodi had two experts with well over thirty years of experience between them and Demarte had ONE!
   Argument #2 doesn’t make sense to me because the Yreka police never considered Jodi a suspect in this burglary as far as I know. Obviously, it is a shame that they were not able to locate anybody who could physically verify them at the monastery. This would have stopped the prosecution in their tracks immediately.
   These arguments sound very compelling to me and I would think the AZ Appeals Court will be forced to take along hard look at these issues.
   Is there a timetable on a ruling?

6. Hello Kevin Horn,

   I wonder if you still run around partly or even totally incapacitated since 2 sec after the shot you must have gotten to your head and if you nevertheless still testify in capital cases in front of court :

   https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/20/us/wrongful-convictions-forensic-results.html?fbclid=IwAR0nDpIHjTcAENa5s-VzDYzrlLAmKzhYV799NlshBNA7qhmPr6trKXLOFBI

7. R. Love I don’t remember the judge saying that she thought Jodi was guilty but she behaved as though she had formulated an opinion as such. When the jurors were locked she made every effort to keep them in that conflict for as long as she could. I remember her pushing them to reach a decision when it was obvious they would not. To me, the Judge had taken Juan’s side in this case. It was an ugly and unfair court case from start to finish. I couldn’t believe what the prosecution got away with in this trial..imagine what it was like for that one hold out juror. The more I think about it the more I believe she deserves a medal for holding onto her right as a juror. It sure cost a lot in the end didn’t it. It didn’t serve the Alexander family well nor Jodi and her family. Nor did it improve the reputation of an already tainted justice system in Arizona.

8. Hiya everyone,

   are they no news at all about Juan “The Breast (caricature of a) Man” Martinez and the bar complaint/charges against him? Will it be swept under the carpet once again despite the massive evidence due to the usual proceedings in that corrupt wild west county/state?
   Does anybody have any clue?

   https://de.scribd.com/document/401156603/Martinez-Complaint#from_embed

   • You know why I’m asking…I wish to see Martinez pick up the soap in a jail’s shower if you know what I mean. 🙂
     I have no idea if that is even an option according to the charges but boys can dream right?

   • Thanks for posting this, Frank. The worst punishment Martinez could get is disbarment, I believe, not jail time. I’ve seen several people predict that he’ll at least lose his job, but I don’t know the basis for their confidence. Also on the bright side, I expect another bar complaint to be filed against him soon.

     • Hey Alan,

       Somebody might want to call the Guinness Book for this. Martinez might actually set a record for total number of complaints against one civil servant. If not, he has got to be in the top three at least!

9. An article about former Maricopa sheriff Arpaio came up about his pardon. Apparently, he is trying to vindicate himself. Here is a snippet from the article
   “If Arpaio truly believes his own public proclamations of innocence – that he was denied justice because he didn’t get a jury trial – then he has the absolute right, as does every American, to go to court to try to clear his name.

   But you can’t have it both ways.

   You can’t be cleared of a crime you’ve been pardoned for committing”

   https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2019/05/08/joe-arpaio-should-join-democrats-who-want-his-pardon-erased/1141842001/

   • I just finally read the article. Love it, the whole ironic and sarcastic undertone in it but especially this line lol:

     “(Snow, having been appointed by that well-known liberal president, George W. Bush.)”

10. I don’t know Jodi, but I do know that the system failed. You could never dissect any act they way the prosecution did. We are humans and there is a human factor that can’t be measured by trying to break down every single though, act, movement, etc. Also it takes two to tango. . . it’s a two way street. I am not saying she was right or wrong, but never a wrong makes a right. I also believe her defense Atty wasn’t experienced enough to handle this kind of cases. I also believe they were both sick and never got the treatment they needed ; when you have two spoiled apples in a box, all you will get is “toxicity”…

    • “You could never dissect any act they way the prosecution did. We are humans and there is a human factor that can’t be measured by trying to break down every single thought, act, movement, etc.”

      That is very true and wise, and was so extremely cheap and desperate from Kermit. And easy to see through, at least by people with some more than just 3 working brain cells.
      He made a lot out of literally NOTHING and blew it up in a ridiculous way, standard, very average, absolutely normal stuff and behaviour. And on the way he “forgot” about the fact what an insecure, desperate, self-righteous, even at 30 obviously sexually frustrated and underperforming, narcissistic and hypocritical little boy pedo bear was, desperately thriving for compliments in his state of being as insecure as it gets, like no real man would ever do.
      But Kermit’s story and fairy tale about Jodi was this one:

      “Oh look, she had a few relationships (VERY few btw by all standards I know of – I know girls who start and get over with 5 relationships in a week or so lol) and sex before, and acted jealous here and there in a very normal way – what a sex-crazed slut and bitch!” – like none of us was ever jealous and acted on it…or had sex, “god” forbid…
      What an asshole. My take on this is, like pedo bear just a frustrated mysoginist because they both most likely got mobbed all the time by attractive or all girls in their youth and most of their life becasue of their looks. It’s obvious Martinez hates women, most likely for that very reason. They always treated him with denial and pity, it does not need much fantasy to conclude that. I would assume the same for the so-called victim based on the evidence.

      What a dishonest and disgusting freak show from Kermit, but especially the simple-minded moron audience buying into this blown up out of nothing bs fairy tale.
      Jodi, in fact, lived a very harmless life with EXTREMELY few sex partners and relationships as far as we know – like 4 or 5 boyfriends up to the age of 26? Wow really, again, I know girls who do the same thing in a week or so or with all 5 at the same time, in the same bed I mean, or wherever, as well as I did myself in the past. Nothing unusual about it, but surely not what Jodi did. There is nothing even remotely sex-crazed or kinky in her past, almost nun-like actually.
      Fact is she also had a very harmless and totally average sex life with pedo bear. Everyone who calls that “kinky” has no fucking clue what kinky sex is or comes from a pitiful and prude perspective to begin with I’d say (Of course I can see that regarding Martinez lol). It was below average from a European perspective at least and since I lived in the US and really had actual kinky relationships in NYC and elsewhere I would say, outside of the bible belt it would not be considered kinky in the US as well.

      But there are obviously different standards regarding sex in general, and especially pedophilia and stuff in the US and Europe which I’ve “learned” from a so-called good friend of TA. That is actually for your amusement only and to show with what kind of lying and dishonest bastards you have to deal with here in this family/friends/mor(m)on cover up case and witch hunt. I was just like “Wow, aren’t you ashamed to no end of yourself?” – you will understand that in a minute.
      Although for amusement I’m not kidding btw., this actually happened and is not exaggerated at all, and you can see what lengths of blatant and pitiful lying they go to protect their fairy tale and myth, absolutely pathetic, they even embarrass themselves in an outstanding way.
      Of course I’ve ended the conversation at that point, without any name calling or anything, just diplomatically ending it, basically saying goodbye for good since I have a minimum of standards for people in my life but he kept writing which I all deleted unread of course because if I want to talk to minor people I don’t need to do it on the internet to strangers I give a fuck about. At least at that point I gave a fuck, prior I honestly tried to understand the “other side” when I’ve learned there actually is no other side, just a despicable and dishonest attitude and a desire to cover up facts and truth at all costs, even own embarrassment.
      The conversation simply lost its intellectual value if there was any at all. An analogy would be talking to an empty can, like talking astrophysics with a 5 year old who is in addition lying shamelessly. I was just disgusted as much as you can be disgusted. And it suddenly was apparent to me why he was a friend. The same lack of ANY class and just everything that can be respected in other people.

      Here goes:

      Apparently, in the US, and I really didn’t know that (I’m sarcastic of course), but you sure all know that (lol), telling your girlfriend or making statements of that kind in general like this:

      1. You sound like a TWELVE year old school girl…

      2. …having her first orgasm…

      3. …It’s SOOOOO hot!!! (I need to emphasize this: To hear a 12 year old schoolgirl having her first orgam)

      and

      4. …corking the pot out of a TWELVE year old

      etc.

      is ABSOLUTELY AND TOTALLY normal in the US and basically something you say to the little sister of your cousin at a Xmas family meeting while grandma and everybody listens. It’s totally normal in the US, like really! And it means something completely different than in Europe too! It’s actually the epitome of an expression of true compassion and platonic love for that little girl and everyone, just everyone, at the table supports this and will be touched in their hearts by it. People would be even eager to record that with their phones to show it during later cuddly family meetings. Yes, you can believe that. Don’t you know?
      No really, it has nothing at all to do with pedophilia or something of that kind, and since the US and Europe have so extremely different cultures a European (one who lived for years in the US btw lol) just can’t understand how harmless and common that is. Even teachers tell that to their favorite school girls and boys in the class, no REALLY! Believe it!

      That’s what he basically, in essence, analogously responded, regarding that topic and the quotes just from the audio evidence. I just altered it for comedy value but in reality it was not comedy at all and absolutely the message of that statement/reply, he was very serious and excusing or just blatantly and shamelessly lying, while lacking even TRACES of decency That’s disgusting right? I couldn’t stand it and ended the conversation right at that point for good until today and never spoke a word to that freak again.
      I question though if such people should run free, people who excuse that in that dishonest and lying way. Have they issues themselves or are they just lying to protect a lie. I dunno.

      Your opinion guys?

11. Contrary to Nancy’s belief. Not only do I believe I can do such a thing as to write my own discharge. I already have and I also included a ticket for her departure as well. Good luck and farewell. Count your friends as a blessing.

12. Admin….^?

13. Does anybody know the time frame for a response from the court on her appeal?

    • No, but I’ve posted a screenshot with the last entries from the appeal court file yesterday. I don’t know why it wasn’t posted here yet.
      It was a posting just with my usual merciless but very honest tone and not outstanding mean or so. 🙂

      However, perhaps it is still in queue for admin confirmation and will get posted later, i don’t know. I’m going to repost just in case it is not.

      But the status quo of the appeal at the moment is that these bastards have filed a motion just a few days ago (May 24) to RECONSIDER the denial to strike basically all appendices in the appeal, appendices that have all to do with Kermit’s misconduict as far as I remenber.

      I was just like wow. Trying it as long as you get the result you desire? How desperate…

14. This is old but wasn’t previously posted, I believe:

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2019/04/12/arizona-groups-demand-bill-montgomery-resign-over-juan-martinez-sexual-harassment-allegations/3437360002/

15. Reposting, just in case:

    Hi guys, I’m back after quite some time. I did a lot of traveling and xtreme sports activity all over Europe and I don’t spend that much time in office or with work in general over the spring/summer anyway. But sadly it appears not much happened since then, especially positive things. :-/
    I see the rant I’ve posted prior to my absence didn’t pass through the censorship here lol. Well, too bad! 🙂 I almost expected it but I don’t really support censorship in general but I respect the right of the houseowner here.

    I hope all is well. Business as usual here for me, including the walking brain-dead and “Meat Loaf’s Health Model” huggers without a life on Twitter and Facebook intellectually unable to bear different opinions and instead stalking people with more differentiated, objective, not biased, educated and honest opinions about this whole case, the trial and its participants. It’s pathetic, pitiful and also really amusing, all combined, especially the latter, it’s like real life comedy/satire how extremely desperate they are trying to label their obviously made-up fairy tales as “fact”, about the case, the trial, the so-called victim and others in this case.
    As if anyone of us here would bother to stalk and harass ANYONE of them because of their different, even though stupid, dishonest, uneducated and biased opinions. No, we just let them. Stupid and uneducated people have opinions too, not to the benefit for mankind though but you sadly can’t change that. That stalking behaviour and harassment on one side and the total lack of it on the other side at least tells something about human quality, reason and intelligence though, to put it as general and mildly as possible.

    I don’t read most of this crap (and don’t answer anyway – I don’t have time or desire in my life to talk to brain dead and/or mind-blowing dishonest people protecting a myth) since you get the feeling there is not a single glim of light (or at least a glim of decency and honesty) burning inside their heads but for amusement two of my favorite quotes:

    We all or probably only me am “Just jealous that I didn’t *** Jodi in all her 3 holes” and I also have “just a tiny dick” (muhahaha). Well, the latter is actually true compared to a horse. There are many beautiful girls who would object to that very statement though. 🙂
    Wow, pathetic people really and concluding all that obviously from their own mental state, sad and pitiful love/sex life and physique. But that’s what you have to deal with when you are on the not biased and/or brain-dead side of this case…

    However, back to the real topic here, Jodi’s case, since these dipshits are irrelevant anyway on an intellectual, moral and even evolutionary level.
    WTF is this below from the appeal court file, trying as long as you get the desired result or what, like with most referendums in politics/society?!
    This case really drags on and on while Jodi wastes her life behind bars for no reason or at least not based on even remotely any hard or enough evidence to justify that. In addition considering that she barely escaped death row makes me really sick. What a disgusting example of a modern witch hunt trial based on hot air and a degenerated lynch mob, in the media, in the jury and everywhere. So, how is that possible and how often can they try that?:

    https://i.imgur.com/ximPqgN.png

    I also read Martinez is still prosecuting cases, or specifically a current high profile case, in that remarkable and outstanding corrupt any decency lacking county within that wild west state. I couldn’t find more about the sexual harassment and abuse charges and possible trial against him. Does anyone know more about that and the status quo?

    BTW, I recently watched an interview with Gus Searcy I didn’t know yet. He seemed to be the ONLY guy within that PPL crowd with some decency, objectivity and reason. That’s probably because he was not also a part of that pitiful Mor(m)on church like the other lying and disgusting creeps (I’m not sure about that but he at least seems to be too smart and reasonable to be part of that big business scam cult and con-man/fraud “religion”).

    On that matter, it was also said somewhere that Flores was also in LDS but in fact he more or less gibes about the Mor(m)ons in the interrogation tapes in Yreka while talking with Jodi, basically saying things like “Closed up society, people in there are basically sick people with issues who have something to hide – otherwise they wouldn’t need to be in that “church”, and describes it as a facade based on how it appears to him” – how does that match with the claims that he was also LDS?!

    Back to Gus after this short excursus, he’s actually also a very interesting guy with a history as an inventor of some voice recognition software and intelligent house design stuff, like Bill Gates’ House v.0.1 beta or so lol, back in the days when 1 mb ram was the whole world. Also as a professional magician. I didn’t know that while he was on the stand exposing Martinez very cheap and dishonest rhetoric games and demeanor. He also mentioned in that interview that people, also from the LDS cult, came to him mentioning that they know all this stuff about pedo bear (abuse and so on) but are basically hiding it in order to not get in trouble themselves. Wow, but not surprising if true.
    And what about this call he supposedly received from Jodi in the night at 3:30 am after the incident? I didn’t know that or saw it elsewhere mentioned as evidence or something!?

    Have a nice day all

16. Nice try corrupt and rotten assholes. 🙂

    https://imgur.com/a/uP7xWYH

17. Thanks, Frank.

18. Thanks for the post Frank. They tried! But for once they didn’t get what they wanted.

19. For the zoologically interested here some amphibian and reptile news. 🙂

    This one is the article I was referring to above (but didn’t have the link at hand back then):

    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/avtar-grewal-murder-trial-has-jodi-arias-prosecutor-juan-martinez-11298552?fbclid=IwAR1QW9QqKMoQbhUavatxtb_sxwcYUSHkEAqBIiU-7NmLbx0NYT-5YZ9sg90

    And an older article from April, might have been posted here already, not sure:

    https://reason.com/2019/04/08/juan-martinez-may-get-taste-of-justice/?fbclid=IwAR11p1pd6UaxZJOLBApE6OXIsBv_AN6CEajBZSRULTmA29Htb_eCQvHkkGg

    • I hadn’t seen these before. Nice work, Frank!

20. FREE JODI ARIAS ARIZONA! SELF DEFENSE IS NOT A CRIME!
    TEAM JODI KEEP THE FAITH!
    Romans 5:3-4 Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope.

21. Not new and has probably been posted already before I came here to this “party”, but very relevant, and just in case it hasn’t been posted:

    “If I were charged with a crime in Maricopa County, based on what we’ve seen in capital cases — it’s not a place where I would feel confident that the county attorney’s office would play by the rules,” Robert Smith, a Harvard researcher and director of the Fair Punishment Project tells New Times.

    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/harvard-death-penalty-study-rips-maricopa-county-prosecutors-8563756

22. Interesting read!

23. Changing channels on t.v. and happened upon Kirk Nurmi on Dr. Oz. I know some of you have seen this before. He would not talk about the appeal but did mention prosecutorial misconduct as one of the grounds and the fact that there was a media circus that made it very difficult for all, another of the grounds. That is true. Nurmi has survived stage 3 cancer and he no longer practices law..license lifted. He talked about trying to get out of the case when he was a public defender as he didn’t want it…when he moved to private practice….he says he was forced to keep the case. The book he wrote was challenged by Jodi’s lawyers as breaking confidentiality and that is why his peers wanted to suspend his license for five years…Guilty. Instead he went with the complete disbarment. He blames Jodi’s case for destroying his life…the hatred and threats he and his family endured were terrible. The media circus fueled that. Was kind of interesting to watch I have to say. Sure was impossible to have a fair trial in Jodi’s case.

24. Here, the last entry in the appeal case pdf file:

    https://i.imgur.com/P06DHDq.png

    I think that is nothing important and just some technical law procedure bs, but just out of curiousity, what does that mean? I can understand it of course but what’s the deal?
    Does anybody have an idea?

25. My guess is it means the defense filed a supplementary list of relevant case law about some issue, and “certificate of service” means it gave the state prosecutor a copy.

    • “certificate of service” means it gave the state prosecutor a copy.”

      Thanks Alan, I didn’t know that.

26. Just a friendly reminder that Jodi’s birthday is coming up on July 9 so send her a birthday card!

    • And don’t forget to be charming and congratulate her to her 29th!!! birthday. 🙂

27. Happy Birthday Jodi!!

28. Happy Birthday Jodi!

29. Happy Birthday Jodi!

30. Juan Martinez disciplinary hearings scheduled for August 27,28 and 29, 2019. Azcourts.gov

31. …..and time keeps dragging on! FREE JODI ARIZONA!

32. Sure does R.Love.

33. Yes, it’s really absurd how law people can drag things nearly towards infinity. This whole thing actually, not just now. I mean a trial starting 4.5 years after the incident is ridiculous.

34. I see Fox News will be airing a crime series called American Justice this month. The trailer for it includes a picture of Jodi, so maybe one of the episodes will be about her. Another black mark for the network: it seems to have collaborated at least twice recently with Dr. Drew.

35. I watched the whole trial, every day start to finish. I’ve visited this site every few months to follow any news on appeals, any updates about Jodi, and her well being, and to read comments from like minded people who can think objectively. Anyone who I’ve talked to, or anyone I’ve watched anything (trial clips, or TV shows like ID), have all hated this brain washed, Mormon, pedophile deviant. She was a victim of a manipulative narcissist who would degrade and lower her already low self esteem. I don’t doubt that before the actual incident, everything was fine and she was taking pictures of him in the shower. I’ve known people like this loser TA, and they’ve all snapped at the drop of a dime, for no reason on their chicks, girl friends, and wives. He more than likely had her walking on eggshells every day. He found a woman who was and is god damn gorgeous, but with low self esteem and wanted to be loved with the same love she gave. That’s what he wanted, someone to devalue and debase. And he got what he wanted. Just turned out Jodi ain’t the one . And he got his. TA wasn’t shit. And no one other than his brain washed Mormon/cult family even cares that he’s dead. Forget about all the nonsense that went on in that circus tent they called a courtroom. In my opinion, he physically abused her before he was killed, and he more than likely came at her the day he died. Jodi just wasn’t having it. She went juuuuuust a lil overboard. And I can’t blame her. She’s served her time. Do you put a 27 yr old woman in jail for killing a rat or a cockroach? Cuz that’s all this sick Mormon pedophile scumbag TA was.

    RELEASE JODI ARIAS ❤

    • Welcome Mcdwn469!

      Look forward to speaking more.

    • “TA wasn’t shit. And no one other than his brain washed Mormon/cult family even cares that he’s dead.”

      You mean he WAS shit, right? And that is you being very kind I guess. 🙂
      However, I welcome and respect anyone who has the ballz and honesty to speak that very truth out despite the disgusting and hyporcritical bs and nonsense “nothing bad about a dead person”.
      A truth on so many levels/regarding so many aspects that I won’t go into details again since I already talked a couple times in very detail here about the wide array why this is true.

36. Jodi needs a new trial.also a chance for parole.I am not sure what kind of prison this is,but I would ask that she is transferred to a woman’s only facility ;where she is safe.Jodi has to have a second chance.Jodi does not deserve this fate of life in jail.Jodi’s life has value.Free JODI!

    • I believe ADC Perryville is a women only prison, at least regarding inmates.

      Her appeal is going forward, let’s see what the outcome of this one will be. There are more options if this one fails but all are of course very time consuming, typical for law people.
      You can follow the tiny juristic steps forward here (over 900 entries since 2015, this is just insanity imho):

      https://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/aacc/appella/1CA/CR/CR150302.PDF

      • I don’t know exact particulars of this case.;but if Jodi had killed this person;she could use the defense of not being criminally responsible;based on mental health issues at the time.In Canada there using this as a defense.The inmate is put into a mental health facility;not a jail.The staff try to help the inmate sort out what is wrong.;eventually the inmate is freed;if the inmate can prove that they are safe.If medication is a solution to better health;then the patient stays free.This is a defense that might work.Jodi may have not be thinking straight at the time this incident occurred.Like I was saying before Canada takes a rehabilitative approach to jail time.In Canada;the prison system wants to see people out.Canada does not want people in jail indefinitely.Canada wants to give inmates a second chance.The U S A,s approach to justice is counterproductive. That isn’t right .You can’t ruin a life because of a mistake.It is more productive to give a person a chance to do good.;then to keep them suppressed.

        • First of all, you should watch the trial and general case footage on YT when you can spend some time, not only because it is always better when you know what you are talking about, it is also very interesting, but be careful, it’s kind of addictive. 🙂
          Not only the trial itself is interesting, but also how the moron media network and society mechanics work, basically all this is a HowTo of bringing a monster of a degenerated, irrational, biased, braindead, any decency lacking and bloodthirsty public lynch mob to life or a HowTo to awaken what is already there anyway actually – a Colosseum event like in Old Rome with a gladiator who has to die and the most despicable and bloodthirsty low-life people in the audience and in the media – disgusting but also very interesting how this was done by spreading disinformation, half-truths and also blatant lies, and unjustified and irrational hate hate in general, mostly by primitive/reactionary/etc. people – Joseph Goebbels would have been erotically inspired by this modern TV witch hunt propaganda piece – a wet dream for him and the likes, orchestrated by the most despicable kind of people mankind has to offer, people like Nancy Disgrace, Drew, JVM, etc., and their sell-out talking head guests as well. And also the prosecution of course. And thankfully bought by a degenerated audience.
          In lack of extra time myself I did that for a while and ditched any movies/etc. during that time hehe. And part of it happened when I was on a 6 week vacation/snowboarding trip in France anyway, where I coincidentally stumbled across this case in the first place and basically couldn’t stop watching it around Xmas/New Year 2018 – so I had some free time during that vacation at least. But it’s really a lot of footage, even just both trials, plus all the other material.

          I agree with you about all your remarks about the US “justice” (and prison) system, and that even in the case of guilt, locking someone up for life with no chance for parole is not right and well, plain barbaric and uncivilized (not to speak of state sanctioned killing aka the death penalty which is of course even worse and despicable) – as well as the supporters for both of these punishments are primitive low-lifes.
          Maybe for the most serious cases lwop is appropriate, serial killers, generally murder for fun and thrill but for sure not in this case, even IF Jodi was guilty as convicted – which is at least not provable at all, and I also believe is not true.
          The US justice and prison system is deeply corrupt and is even especially corrupt in Arizona according to a Harvard study. I just can’t find the article I’m really looking for atm but it is posted here on JAII.com from me somewhere, but here are 2 other articles about the same topic . https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2017/03/07/arizonas-corrupt-government-only-providesjustice-for-some/
          https://ethics.harvard.edu/blog/measuring-illegal-and-legal-corruption-american-states-some-results-safra
          This is true in the US also because it’s party private (part of the prison system is) and profit driven (I can’t remember by what percentage without looking it up right now but it is significant if I remember right). Therefore long sentences and many inmates are in the interest of many despicable people, financially . And one of the results is that the US has by far the most inmates relative to population. Everybody can research the data for both of this on his own. It’s extreme.

          Regarding defense strategies etc.:
          Fact is the so-called victim in this case rather needed some serious treatment in a mental
          health facility. Jodi not so much, a few sit-ins with a shrink to pimp up her very poor self-awareness/-esteem maybe but that would have been enough in her case I believe. The so-called victim on the other hand was in a way more serious and dangerous to society mental state, very obvious from all that we learned during this case.

          What you’ve suggested might have been a possible defense strategy for the sole self- purpose of a strategy regarding a certain desired maximal outcome, but it would be a sell-out and when I try to put myself in Jodi’s shoes I’m sure I’d always go with the truth and not with some cheap strategy for the self-purpose of a strategy, for self-respect/pride and for several other reasons, and I think that is what she did here. And rightfully so.
          And the truth she went with was self defense – of course I can‘t tell if this is the actual truth, nobody can do that regarding all theories that are circulating, intellectual honesty demands me admitting this, something totally missing within the irrational Jodi hater mob (intellectual honesty that is), but I at least believe it could be true/is the most likely theory.
          It MIGHT have been 2nd degree murder or manslaughter though, nobody really knows that, but it is unlikely imho. But totally absurd is the premeditated bs she was convicted for, for so fucking many reasons. A made-up fairy-tale for a shallow and simple-minded audience including the jury based on not enough evidence whatsoever, and partly on totally made-up pseudo evidence.
          IMHO Jodi did rightfully so (going with the truth instead of a strategy for the sake of a strategy) – no sell-out, ever, that is at least my basic attitude in my whole life and I think Jodi acted on that same attitude here. I want to believe that this was the reason.
          Which I wholeheartedly support if true despite the current unfortunate situation/outcome for her. You need to keep your honesty and self-respect, acting different would at least destroy me from the inside. And that strategy (going for mental illness etc.) would have been another lie anyway, so not a good strategy.
          If she wouldn’t have lied in the beginning to cover up for that worthless scum- and douchebag the trial might have ended different to begin with. Who knows, but why add another lie for supposedly “strategic” reasons, very weak strategic reasons imho – almost as stupid as her self-harming cover up for someone who did not deserve ANY cover up, not after death but also not during life.
          Jodi might have had some mental issues too, the fact alone that she stayed with this douchebag way below her league in all aspects and who treated her like trash on top of that is obviously not healthy but she was not a mental patient in terms of being crazy and ready for a loony bin or something.
          She was “just” insecure/had a very low self-esteem/etc., maybe some other minor mental issues, things many people have actually. Any moron feels the need to run to a shrink these days after all right? 🙂 – for the most absurd reasons, because it is not their own fucking fault they need to work on and take responsibility for, no, it must be some mysterious mental problem. Including school kids and their delusional parents btw. 🙂

          However, without the few issues she had she would have realized that she does not need this pathetic and hypocritical scumbag and bigot with no class whatsoever and can instead date actual attractive guys any given day of her life who also match her intellect/education/attitude standards/etc. – but she had no idea which is somewhat between funny (I can’t even imagine how she didn’t realize that – how less self-awareness and self-respect can you even have?!) and tragic (what happened in the aftermath, imho something that would have happened in one or the other form sooner or later anyway in this outstanding pathetic, unhealthy and dishonest “relationship”, a relationship ONLY build on lies/dishonesty/hypocrisy/betrayal and most important on lack of any respect/etc. – there was never any mutual love or at least respect/honesty to be found) – the current result/status quo for her is obviously tragic as well. A total fuck up on her part not to run away early or even better never even start to date so extremely below your class and level.
          But again, she was not crazy in terms of being ready for a “rubber room” or something, I don’t think that applies here so this “strategy” would have been rubbish to begin with.

          BUT the defense should have emphasized the very serious mental issues of the so-called victim much more, not only the pedophilia but also the extreme pathetic anger issues, his self-obsessed, egocentric, narcissistic and sociopathic personality, his lack of any objective self-reflection which resulted in a god complex – instead of looking into a mirror and realizing what a loser he actually was (also induced and fed by his pathetic fraud cult where insecure men like him are brainwashed into believing the lie and absurd idea they are actual gods lol – this LDS cult is a loony bin in itself – for info about that, first class and highly intelligent/entertaining/funny but fact based satire, watch ALL the videos on the “Brother Jake” channel on YouTube – an Ex-Mor(m)on exposing this big scam business fraud cult LDS masqueraded as some religion) – a total loss of sense for reality which was sure extremely mental.
          Maybe even a psychopath since he had obviously fun to treat Jodi like shit and had no true regret, just fake excuses when he needed her again which ignorant or let’s say brainwashed Jodi interpreted as “being nice and sweet” – but in fact it is just part of the abuse scheme. Abuse does not work when you are an asshole/abuser 24/7, simple as that.
          Carrot and stick tactics apply here and it is never genuine “sweetness” – I can’t fucking believe Jodi didn’t see that. But that is apparently a malfunction in abused women’s brains in general from all what you can read about it. Still, as a man I don’t get it. No, I really don’t as hard as I try.
          She let that all happen with the whacked up mindset of an abused woman. But when there are giant signs in signal red everywhere which say “Run away, yesterday!” like with this guy – you should do it right?
          However, her defense was not only incompetent but also unwilling/not determined/not motivated to do more than trying to avoid death penalty and even that like a walking sleeping pill. I think Jennifer Willmott did her very best but she was only the sidekick so to say – the second chair. Nurmi was the walking sleeping pill with a minimal principle approach in this case, economically speaking, cash in as much as possible for the least effort possible with a set goal (just avoid death penalty and nothing more at all) – a disgusting and pathetic guy.

          You can learn about her main lawyer’s lack of motivation and his pathetic attitude in general here, a video he posted just recently a few days ago. I just quote my own posting from like 3 days ago in a Facebook discussion group with an additional comment from me below:

          Ok guys, and here is “Brother Kirk” with a prominently and intentionally placed symbol of a cult around his neck speaking to you “cultists”! 🙂

          I really wonder what is wrong with this guy, he seems to be so artificial in every single word he has to say, then his ongoing weight rollercoaster, he seems to be fat again, and so on. Something is deeply wrong with this guy.

          Also, you don’t hear any of this cheap backstabbing from Jennifer Willmott (or any other cheap profiteer attitude via writing a book or something), right?
          Here he is, the pot calling the kettle black.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvG_tRpEeI

          Here an additional comment from me regarding this video and an attempt to explain it:

          The most positive assumption I have regarding him is that he tries to protect himself from the outstanding primitive, simple-minded and shallow Jodi hater mob by distancing himself from Jodi. It would still be extremely weak and would still make him a pathetic person if that is true (again, Jennifer Willmott does not do anything of that kind afaik and she sure had to deal with these same subhumans as well), but maybe understandable to some degree, weak people do exist after all, but the other options are even worse.
          Actually the existence of his book alone and the attempt to profit from all this in such an outstanding cheap way (on top of his regular payment for an effort on his part which in economics would be described with the term “minimal principle”) tells quite a story that it is at least not only the degenerated Jodi lynch and hater mob that does induce his pitiful conduct. However, the way he speaks appears so insecure, dishonest and artificial, in addition the pitiful attempt to frame himself as some saint or something (just the intentionally very visible silver cult symbol around his neck on a black T-shirt is so unintentionally funny, ironic and ridiculous that it made me almost rofl), a very hypocritical one though, just like most so-called “saints” and believers/bigots, can’t make me have an ounce of sympathy for him.
          I simply despise such pathetic, hypocritical and bigot people. Basically the same (main) reason I despise the so-called victim in this case so much.

37. Jodi also needs a smart attorney;a lawyer who can help and knows the law;not a lawyer who will sell her out.I would not try to defend myself unless I knew exactly what to say.

38. I’ve been confused over this website for a long time finally decided to write a comment…I know this website knows Jodi did kill Travis and you’re not denying that but what is the basis of why you would expect her to be released or have a new trial? We all know once convicted, how hard it is to have a new trial granted nevermind this case where Jodi doesn’t deny killing Travis and doesn’t and never did give or have a strong case against abuse from Travis…there was an attempt during the trial to argue that but it would have been the foundation of the entire trial start to finish if that were the case…I’m assuming we could all agree that rejection of someone else is not considered sufficient abuse to murder someone nor is verbal or even physical abuse. And lastly I’m curious to know where it received such evidence that Travis’ murder was warranted if the courts (and her defence) couldn’t prove it? I’ve never seen a murder of passion so brutal than this one nevermind ever be granted a new trial nor a release…there are people sitting in prison for murder who were brutally victimized but the law still won’t ever pardon such an act under any circumstance there are other ways of dealing with being a victim one is walk away the other is let the law deal with it…I’m curious to hear what others think about what I’m saying?

    • alinah, Your post is riddled with the presumption that it was up to Jodi (and her defense) to prove Travis attacked her. In Arizona Law (and 22 other states), in a self-defense case the burden is on the State to prove that it WAS NOT self-defense. Where’s the proof that Jodi initiated the attack?

      • What is somewhat interesting is that if Jodi knew that murder has consequences;then why did she kill Travis?It is obvious that Jodi is not prepared for time in prison.Alinah is right;when someone is killed ;the justice system can’t ignore that.I come from a different country.There are more options for defense.If Jodi was going through some medical problems at the time (mental problems).Our justice system would be sympathetic to that.;but Alinah is right;to say not guilty without some explanation will not work.I am concerned about Jodi because she only seems to realize now what happened.There seems to be a lot of regret.There seems to be remorse.All I am trying to say is give Jodi a second chance.In my country you are not condemned so quickly.I don’t believe she is as bad as people are saying she is.There was a case here where a wife was abused for 20 years/emotional/psychological abuse.The wife could not take it so she killed her husband.The wife was charged with murder.The wife was acquitted;based on an abusive husband.Jodi’s abuse defense might work.

        • Again, where is the proof (PROOF) that the account Jodi told us on the stand, UNDER OATH, could not have happened the way she said it did (the proof that the state, by law, was required to provide)? I don’t believe that it was a moment of passion or she suffered any causal mental condition. There is plenty of evidence of mental abuse by Travis yet people want to believe his mental abuse proves nothing about physical abuse and yet, at the same time, with no proof of ANY sort of abuse by Jodi, are very ready and willing to believe that she would just one day up and decide to become a premeditating murderess. I have a hard time wrapping my head around that kind of “logic”.

          • Here’s what the state proved – that she lied. From that it was a short distance to “she’s a liar” which slipped comfortably into “she’s a pathological liar” and finally into “don’t believe anything she says, even under oath.” From there it was a cake walk for the state, never had to actually prove anything else.

            • You can also add the actual admission by Juan Martinez in several subsequent interviews that he acted how he did in court because he was concerned the evidence was pointing towards an acquittal which he could not afford to have happen.

    • Hmmmm, what I get from your comment is that you really don’t know much and only very shallow stuff about the case and the trial. Just for instance, there is not much objective evidence for physical abuse (or even none at all that was ever part of the trial, only from Jodi’s testimony – there might be some on malfunctioning hard drives from Jodi that were never recovered by a data recovery lab for stupid reasons only her incompetent defense can tell about but we don’t know that for that very reason) but there is quite a ton of evidence for mental abuse, written and audio and not from Jodi herself, objective evidence.

      Also, just because it is generally hard to get a new trial does not tell anything about if it is justified or not – that remark makes no sense at all. Obey to injustice just because injustice is likely to persist?
      And when there is a case that justifies a retrial it is this disaster unfair dark age witch hunt trial, a trial that was even decided in the sensational dipshit media and its degenerated audience long before the trial even started, in addition with a not sequestered jury in that very context. Then criminal conduct from the prosecution office in countless occasions and whatnot.

      Also, I don’t know what is especially so brutal about this killing when you are a rational and not a hysteria driven person. It is a result of a frantic and chaotic fight from all what the incident scene tells and just because a slit to the throat (and a possible or even very likely desperate one) is so graphic and is easily sold as so brutal to very shallow and not rational people doesn’t mean it actually is.
      It’s a fight scene with blood, that’s it, and not at all especially brutal or cruel. Brutality is something TOTALLY different.
      Tying someone up and “enjoy” some torture prior to killing, rape prior to killing, or an intentionally slow killing is for instance. THAT is brutal. Fighting for your life in a chaotic way like here is not brutal. The fact that blood is red and spills is not brutal, the fact that weapons cause injuries is not brutal. Nothing of this is especially brutal or brutal at all in that context – I guess an attempt from Jodi to stroke him gently wouldn’t have had any successful perspective.
      The impression of brutality is just a very subjective, very shallow and irrational emotion and hysteria driven impression. I can’t say I like this shallow way of looking at things.

39. Personnel file reveals Martinez’s sexual harassment problems go back 30 years.

    https://www.kgun9.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/personnel-file-reveals-prosecutor-juan-martinezs-harassment-problems-go-back-30-years

40. What I meant by I would not defend myself in court was I would not take the witness stand in my defense and start making statements.I was not able to watch the entire case.I would not attend court without the advice of a lawyer.Where I come from there are more options for defense.If there is a defense for Jodi:then use it. In Canada there was a guy who killed some students at a college grad party.This guy went to a facility;saw a pychiatrist ;after 3 years now wants escorted visits to the mall.I don’t agree .The legal system does.This guy has a disorder.The U.S A must have a extenuating circumstance defense somewhere.If Jodi says she is perfectly sane.They will throw the book at her.If Jodi was provoked they might listen.I am only saying there has to be more the story .I am only saying she should get a second chance.The whole country is bullying her.

    • Well, she always had lawyers during both trials except for a very short period of time at the beginning of the retrial I believe where she wanted to try to defend herself. I guess due to her very bad experiences with “Brother” Kirk Nurmi not willing to remotely do the fucking job he was (over)paid for.
      And about her being on the stand, I believe that is almost mandatory and expected when you claim self-defense. She basically had no choice.

      What was stupid though, but understandable since she was for sure overwhelmed by all this and not rational at all in that moment (and frankly, also very immature for a 27 year old girl at that time), was her testimony during the 2 days of police interrogation in Yreka WITHOUT any legal advice, and all this being recorded on video tape on top of it.
      The lies/different versions in the beginning, during the police interrogations and even on TV, to cover-up for this douchebag (and party for herself as well in order to avoid embarrassing stuff going public) were very stupid as well.
      But not her being on the stand and most likely finally going for the truth, something she should have done already during the police interrogation, even without legal advice, but better with it. That was the right thing to do, a bit very late though. 🙁

      • Jodi was without counsel for a small amount of time which is also the time when she actually made a request to plead guilty to manslaughter. The Alexander family flat-out denied this request as they wanted to put her to death. The term used in the US is called “pro se”

41. Hi Steve,

    The central argument in this case is that this was a self-defense killing which is lawful in the U.S. and in Canada as long as the evidence or(in a perfect world) a credible witness is able to point a jury to that conclusion. Jodi obviously understood this which is why she decided to tell this story, albeit somewhat cryptically, to every media outlet she could find because she knew what happened and knew that she defended herself. What she didn’t take into account was how the law would view her actions immediately after Travis stopped being a threat. The law would require that you call 911 immediately to report this attack and that the attacker is in need of medical assistance. Due to Jodi’s trauma, she went on autopilot and tried to get back to her initial road trip plan. Her subsequent lies over the course of the next two years also made her look bad.
    We all believe that Travis physically abused her on two separate occasions. The US judicial system is about evidence like all other democratic countries and it is very skeptical of only one point of view which is Jodi’s who also happens to be the defendant. That evidence would have been two separate police reports of the abuse which would have created a paper trail and given her claims much more attention. Jodi complicated this because she did not want to get him in trouble and just “sucked it up” and dealt with it. With all of that said, all of us strongly believe that the prosecutor played REAL dirty and violated who knows how many ethics codes as a public servant who is responsible for finding the truth. A ruling on his many ethics violations is coming up at the end of this month will likely create a lot of conversation on this site.

    • All very well said, especially the part about Martinez at the end.

42. In case anyone wants to watch more Nurmi, here’s a video where he repeatedly says he doesn’t “support” Jodi.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuvG_tRpEeI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2SdqIRzmug7SO1lkead1toxiNVDq4UUpoSGR7jKYwmuYwzj3wA7bHoXBw

    • Oh, I thought he made another embarassing video, “Shame Part 2” or something, but it’s the same I’ve posted above in my longer post.

      • Sorry, Frank — I didn’t notice it above.

        • I believe this is Nurmi addressing somebody’s Twitter handle who has been making comments that he doesn’t agree with possibly using his name. Apparently, he felt the need to make a Youtube video to dispute these comments and set the record straight.

43. Has anyone here visited Jodi recently and know what her commissary balance is?

    I was going to send her some more money, but only if she is running low.

    • I believe Jodi does not have any regular source for commissary money. She relies on occasional contributions from people like you to buy those necessities without which prison life is unbearable. I know that she watches every dollar, so she’d probably be glad of a little help if you can spare it and feel like giving.

    • I wrote her a letter yesterday and asked her how she is equipped with “da moniez” among other things, reply obviously pending.

      • Frank,

        Tell her good luck with the bar appeal (or at least her attorneys).

        • I basically did that Lance, a few special greetings from people I know she is close with and whom I know as well and a general godspeed/good luck from all of us for the upcoming hearing and what may follow.

44. Hi Mike,

    I don’t believe anybody who posts on this site on a regular basis, except maybe one person, is close enough to visit her unless they made a special trip. I do know that Ben Ernst, as recently as June, visited her for nearly a full day over the course of a weekend. I would assume he has put a nice sum of money on her books for her. I would also assume that Jodi would appreciate any money you do give whenever you give it. I would like to know if anybody is on her private twitter feed and can let people know how she has been preparing for the end of the month rulings.

    • I’m on her Twitter feed Lance but the guys who run this, well, only give some casual random tidbits every now and then, nothing of substance at all.
      Just for instance the last 5 Tweets over a time peroid of almost 2 months were about: Her failed first driver license test, Lumley unit winning softball, birthday greetings thank you, breaking her no gluten rule and the book she read back then. That’s it.

      They also let all the COUNTLESS haters rant and rumble there instead of kicking them. IMHO there is no serious effort to run this Twitter account at least remotely in an adequate manner.

    • Also, Martinez’ bar complaint hearing end of the month has nothing to do with Jodi’s appeal or directly with Jodi. No updates in Jodi’s appeal file for almost 2 months now. Well, why work during summer, right – the appeal “only” runs for already 3 years after all – laughable imho…

45. It’s the bar lawyer who prosecutes complaints in the proceeding. Neither Jodi nor her lawyers participate, unfortunately, so there’s nothing to prepare for.

46. Holy fuck, this Nurmi guy lol. He has some serious mental issues I assume. One of them might be cognitive dissonance.

    And I quote: “Nancy Grace is a kind and genuine person”
    WOOOOW.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoVqK3Z95C8

    • Here is the article this brain fart from Nurmi refers to:

      https://crimestory.com/2019/08/14/amanda-knox-the-injustice-of-nancy-grace/?fbclid=IwAR1GZtbG0uELb8oVtyrKZwCKDkSm09P_ZyuQZg2ccf-Lev50kzCGIyaSgP0

    • Well, 108 views in 6 days! Kirk’s new career is really on fire.

      Either he knows nothing about Nancy Grace’s history, or he’s a very poor judge of character. She’s a self-centered, grasping screech owl with no concern for the great harms often caused by her actions.

      • 🙂

        https://twitter.com/nurmiunchained/status/1165033052201873408

        • BTW, in case that is not clear, it obviously isn’t at first sight, I posted this because one of his replies in this Twitter thread says that he has sold 4 tickets for his SF show and that he is having a pity party, something like that.
          Guilty for all of this in his very limited horizon and world view is obviously and of course “satan’s daughter” Jodi, who is as well responsible for his cancer, for the burning rain forest and that he can’t see his dick below his belly. 🙂

        • Very interesting. I hadn’t seen this.

47. Thanks Frank… I was just curious where her state of mind was around now. Obviously, she quit a prison job to become more involved in her appeal although I know she is now working in the library for somewhat less.
    I don’t think anybody knows who is running her Twitter now except her and the person. Several years ago, her former cellmate, Donavan Bering, was running her Twitter for her and kept the updates fairly current. Unfortunately, Bering decided to turn on Jodi and did a paid interview that is on Youtube where she states that she believes Jodi had help from another boyfriend and that she deserves to be in prison for life. Jodi cut ties with her right after. I stand corrected on the commissary money.

    • Yeah Lance, that interview with Bering where she sold herself to the dark side was from last year or 2 years ago I believe.
      I have second hand info that Jodi’s Twitter account is now run by several different people (I don’t know who and how many). But they could indeed do it MUCH better. At least kick those haters who post the most hateful and poisonous comments and switch to some more relavent Tweets – well, they might get the instructions from Jodi but I somehow doubt it. Those Tweets are just not personal/relevant enough.

48. The comments you mention are about what I was asking about. The fact that Jodi has other people who are willing to do this for her says a lot.

49. I just found this online. This article is about the JM bar hearing and the argument about whether cameras should be allowed in the hearings which are slated to last three days and hear about 12 witnesses. As you can guess, parties on both sides want camera kept out.

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/arizona/jodi-arias-prosecutor-will-face-accusers-over-sexual-misconduct-allegations/75-e5f302ed-13d7-4e07-a9e4-1c47ce69ee04

50. Here’s a longish article by Michael Kiefer (former crime reporter for the Arizona Republic), with a lot of historical background, about the request by both sides to hold the Martinez hearing in closed session. At least it’s attributed to Kiefer; there are several things in it that surprise me greatly. If it’s him, he seems to have lost his fairmindedness, and even his grammar, in retirement.

    I hope the press wins its appeal for a public hearing. No mention of the possibility of Jodi’s lawyers’ appealing too.

    https://www.azmirror.com/2019/08/22/judge-asked-to-bar-press-from-ethics-hearing-for-arias-prosecutor-accused-of-sexual-misconduct/

51. This is an article by Michael Kiefer (retired crime reporter for the Arizona Republic), with good historical background, about both sides’ efforts to ban the press and public from the Martinez hearing. Or, at least, it’s attributed to him; three things in it surprise me. Nothing in it about Jodi’s lawyers’ taking a position.

    https://www.azmirror.com/2019/08/22/judge-asked-to-bar-press-from-ethics-hearing-for-arias-prosecutor-accused-of-sexual-misconduct/?fbclid=IwAR2W9FOz4o7NZXtRIfM2_giRFa0cdMnQwAXVIV3VwVvHFV0xQmXMtoFFNdA

    • In addition to that, wow, such a corrupt state and judge – sexual harassment allegations DROPPED by the judge, hearing delayed, etc. Disgusting, this will all be swept under the carpet once again. Well, why not, they did that for 2 decades already.
      Rotten…

      https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/jodi-arias-prosecutor-juan-martinez-wins-dismissal-of-sexual-harassment-allegations/75-0b1232bd-4c4a-4aff-9104-ee4aab69a822?fbclid=IwAR1Cnch90-4SOHvMLdYh5LTemgMoBvkjNiOLaiuqrWbY7JNtEBd9D9hgU3E

52. Here’s another article on the same topic, by Michael Kiefer, with a few new facts.

    https://www.azmirror.com/2019/08/24/juan-martinez-bill-montgomery-ethics-charges-dismissed/

    • This is good for Martinez, but maybe also for Jodi. It doesn’t help her if he’s sanctioned for sexual harassment, even sexual harassment of a court employee. But it could help her if he’s sanctioned for a kind of prosecutorial misconduct (leaking juror 17’s name to the press) or for lying to bar investigators. These issues will now be the focus. Now, if he’s found guilty of something, nobody will be able to say he’s just another male victim of MeToo. Rather, he’ll be convicted of being a crooked lawyer.

      To see how some people confuse the Jen Wood story with the sexual-harassment stories, note that one of the 12news articles called his interaction with her “sexual misconduct.” That’s not the charge at all. It’s that he lied about his sexual relationship with her and leaked to her the juror name.

      • For now it is not bad or good for Jodi, but as I see it, this is possibly just the beginning of the effort to slowly sweep ALL of this under the carpet once again, in small homeopathic doses.
        That is a common proceeding within corrupt official authorities, you can’t dismiss all at once after all, that would be too obvious, but the smaller the “mountain” of accusations is the more irrelevant you can make it look like at the end.
        Also, the sexual harassment accusations in the office building and during work there are supporting some of the accusations within the court room after all. I bleieve that very intentional dismissal should not be underrated, it’s part of the setup imho.
        I hope I’m wrong but that is how it is usually done.
        The reason given to drop these charges are a joke to bein with as well after all, “because this was handled internally” – yeah, with a virtually not existing “punishment” with a like 3,50 bucks fine and some “training” – a placebo/PR stunt like effort to silence bad press and an outraged public, no real punishment at all for this kind of serious accusations – that go even back 2-3 decades.
        A joke and smells like corruption, and if it smells like that I tend to beleive it’s in there…

53. Well I really hope that the remaining allegations on juan martinez “THE LOW LIFE” will disbar him “FOREVER”…. nobody else should have to put up with his abuse… whether its verbal
    harassment or sexual harasment….just get him out of our court rooms he’s a danger to society …..

    • Amen to that! (from an atheist hehe)

54. The total abscence of integrity/decency/ANY sense for justice totally replaced by corruption and cover-up in at least Maricopa County, maybe all of Arizona:

    https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/juan-martinezs-disciplinary-hearing-postponed?fbclid=IwAR2xNj52BxYuYMD1gzmrbG9e8_760a_tIfJ6m1j5CbMJy42DnZ3Ni-OlnRE

55. Not only the “office internal” sexual harassment charges were thrown out by this dirty and corrupt “judge” but also the issue/communication with the dismissed juror and possible knowledge via her regarding the mindset of the rest of the jurors and how they might decide.
    That isn’t even covered by the reasons given by this so called judge for tossing the sexual harassment charges since this issue is not internal or private but without any doubt case/trial related, and can/should be considered as “inside the court room”.
    And even the internal sex harassment stuff was “handled” with a PR stunt/placebo punishment only, a ridiculus amount of 4-5 k $ “fine” and some “training” that probably happened only on paper anyway if one knows how this stuff is usually handled in companies and authorites who did wrong/acted criminal.
    Wow, I find this extremely worrisome and disgusting. Smells like corruption to the sky and back.
    The only things this fucker of a judge left active (for now that is) is that 5 min fame blogger bitch and the related issue with Juror 17. That’s it. Pah…
    Arizona is some sad corrupt state of injustice.

    https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2019/08/26/judge-tosses-ethics-allegations-maricopa-county-juan-martinez-jodi-arias/2101669001/?fbclid=IwAR1ikkQ1-OJUu-xaAInCVFgmZ2AaauZybfiKwmxHZG3WiEla2nFP-1atlBc

    https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2019/08/26/judge-tosses-ethics-allegations-maricopa-county-juan-martinez-jodi-arias/2101669001/?fbclid=IwAR1ikkQ1-OJUu-xaAInCVFgmZ2AaauZybfiKwmxHZG3WiEla2nFP-1atlBc

    • I have no doubt that Judge O’Neil is massively biased in favor of Martinez and is a disgrace to the bench. However, his rulings are a matter of law and, as such, can be appealed by the Bar if it chooses. The Bar may be uncomfortable with O’Neil’s decision that attorney-ethics rules do not cover office behavior, since the public will be.

      Also, the remaining charges are very serious. Leaking a juror name to the press, if it can be proved, is surely grounds for disbarment. And lying to bar investigators is also serious. For example, that’s just like what got Andrew McCabe fired from the FBI.

56. Hey All,

    Just noticed a Facebook entry stating that open arguments in Jodi’s appeal start October 17th. I am assuming this came out of the status hearing that was held Tuesday.

57. Interesting, Juror 3 says the very same what I’ve said all along. There is a corruption induced tactic going on to reduce the mountain of accusations in small homeopathic doses since you can’t dismiss all at once, that would be a too obvious form of corruption. But it is by far obvious enough of course.

    A dirty and corrupt little asshole (as well as every single supporter of him is one) like Martinez getting cover-up from other dirty and corrupt assholes:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOVA0EYqPdw

58. More on Martinez:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOVA0EYqPdw

59. New post added…

    Martinez’ Disciplinary Hearing Delayed (video):
    https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/juan-martinez-disciplinary-hearing-delayed-video-justice-for-jodi-arias

    SJ
    Team Jodi #WINNING <<<

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