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Jodi Arias Retrial, Day #14 (11/21)

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With another 2-day trial week out of the way… and the jurors sent home until Monday… today will be centered around the Evidentiary hearing in relation to the recently filed Motion to Dismiss, and the legendary child porn stash on TA’s laptop hard drive.

Here are the court filings so far:

The Defense Motion to Dismiss All Charges, filed 11/10 — (15-page PDF)

The State’s Motion for Sanctions, filed 11/16 — (3 page PDF)

The Defense Response to the State’s Motion for Sanctions, filed 11/20 — (8 page PDF)

The State’s Objection to The Defendant’s Motion, filed 11/20 — (8 page PDF)

Should be an interesting day!

Team Jodi #WINNING…

jodi arias & jennifer willmott 11-12

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Latest pics from the courtroom, 11/21:

Bryan Neumeister 11-21
Bryan Neumeister, 11-21

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If you missed any of our earlier posts, click on the links below…

Jodi Arias Retrial, Day #13 (11/20)        Retrial, Day #12 Reviewed

Jodi Arias Retrial, Day #12 (11/17)        Retrial, Day #11 Reviewed

“The Flores Report” Revisited (from 2008)        A Message from Bill & Sandy Arias

HLN, Martinez, inbreds & teenage girls (in that order)…

TA: Devirginated by Deanna Reed [April 2013 RE-POST]

Oscar Pistorious + My thoughts on the retrial circus

Innocence: An Argument For Jodi Arias [2013 RE-POST]

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Click here to keep up with everything today via Michael Kiefer’s live Twitter feed.

Kick-off is scheduled for 10-30 am MST.

Remember…

WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS in our quest for JUSTICE FOR JODI.

Never question it.

Never doubt it.

Leave your thoughts & comments below…

SJ
Team Jodi #WINNING

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  1. TGIF!!! Happy Friday, TEAM JODI!!! I hope we have some GOOD NEWS today!!! I FEEL it, I just have a GREAT feeling about today!!! 🙂

    JODI is number one!!!

    ♥ (((((JODI))))) ♥

    ♥ (((((TEAM JODI))))) &hearts:

    Love you all!!! 🙂

  2. Today will be a very interesting court day indeed!

    I wonder how the ‘state’ will get away with this one… I really do hope that DT has their computer expert with them to explain all the misconduct that the State has done!

    Gooooooooooooooo Jennifer! Don’t let the frog insult you! Next time he attempts to smack him over the mouth! 😀

    ((((((TEAM JODI))))) ♥

  5. Jodi Arias Updates @JodiAnnArias · 8h 8 hours ago

    I wonder if, at the #jodiarias hearing tomorrow, Juan is going 2 engage in more misconduct 2 cover up his prior misconduct re:PC forensics?

  7. Thinking of Jodi and her DT today,hoping things go well for them,so they can end this fiasco and send jodi home. TEAM JODI

    • Thinking of Jodi today. Please, please God in heaven make the DT win this motion to dismiss! I will be pressing refresh on my computer here all day so that I can comment with you guys while I study.

      So grateful for this site, SJ!

  9. Matthew 7:7
    “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.”

    I plead that everyone of us, stop the moment court starts today and say one of our prayers for
    Jodi’s Freedom. There is power in prayer and we must not let her down. We will stand together and hold firm in our belief that one day Freedom will come for our JODI!!! (((((JODI))))

  10. Good morning Team Jodi! I am off today so I can follow what goes on today. Will Jodi be in court for the hearing? (((Team Jodi)))

  11. My mind it’s all over the place this morning. Could someone please tell me why all of Travis’s friends when he was found dead pointed the finger at Jodi. As far as they knew she was back in Ca. I’m trying to recall if the roommates knew she was there? Did they see her??

    • CanadaCarol, when I click the link, it says the link is not available. Details say the site might be down or the page may have moved. Did you search on Google for something? If so, what search criteria did you use? – Thanks!

    • Thanks, Carol
      The State denies, deflects & points finger at others. I’m hoping that’s not going to do it.

    • Oh my gosh !!! …I just Googled: William Pitts AZ Central ,,,,saw his photo, and this is the absolute “doopleganger” of TA, (the look-alike or double of a living person) …well technically each others doopleganger when Travis was alive.

  17. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago

    In the #JodiArias courtroom waiting for the hearing to begin on pornography. Former Arias attorney Maria Schaffer is here.

  18. William Pitts

    Back in #JodiaArias trial. Today’s evidentiary hearing is on allegations that the defense and Mesa Police destroyed evidence of porn on Travis Alexander’s laptop. Follow me on Twitter for live updates @william_pitts

    The defense destroyed? What is he talking about? Give that man some coffee.

  19. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 7m 7 minutes ago

    #JodiArias former attorney, Maria Schaffer, on the stand being questioned by Jennifer Willmott.

  20. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 5m 5 minutes ago

    Schaffer says there was “voluminous evidence” seized by Mesa PD in #JodiArias case. She and co-counsel Greg Parzych went to view 06- 2009.

  21. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 5m 5 minutes ago

    After evidence was brought to room by Det. Flores, Schaffer and Parzych were escorted in. First journals and other writings.

  22. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 4m 4 minutes ago

    Schaffer says there were cellphones that were plugged in and fired up by Flores. Martinez was there. Then they looked at computers.

  23. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 3m 3 minutes ago

    Flores had to find cords for the computers, then he plugged them in and turned them on. Martinez “perused files” in Alexander’s computer 1st

  24. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago

    There was nothing else plugged in, i.e. no “write blocker” to prevent changes in files. There were many selfies. Martinez looking for porn

  26. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Schaffer says they did not stay until 5 p.m. Their investigator left early. #JodiArias

  27. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 20s 20 seconds ago

    The computers were still on when Schaffer and Parzych left the room where they examined computers. Now Martinez does cross.

  28. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 8s 8 seconds ago

    Martinez says the meeting was set for her convenience. She answers, “And for you.” He calls up a list of items requested for meeting.

  29. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    Maria Schaffer: “The items were brought in in waves.”

  30. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 45s 46 seconds ago

    Schaffer says, “At that time, you wanted to see the images as well, sir.” She tells him that he told her that he had never seen the evidence

  31. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    Martinez saying that Schaffer insisted on turning on the computer though not a good idea, that they laughed. She denies.

    • Even though Martinez is lying here, he still implicates himself in his own lie: He acknowledges that he knew it was not a good idea to turn on the computer, ( and since he knew THAT, he knew all of the legal implications, and he knew it would affect evidence.)
      Even though he lied, and said he laughed, even so, saying that he laughed shows he knew something was wrong, and he condoned it anyway, and he never reported he didn’t follow proper protocol, etc.)

      I’ m inferring and extrapolating from a tweet, but still__ his own effort to protect himself by lying about the situation, makes him culpable anyway.

  32. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    Martinez says Schaffer commented on the number of photos. “You made that comment,” Schaffer answers.

  33. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 19s 20 seconds ago

    Schaffer says it was Martinez’ idea to fire up cell phones and computers. Schaffer was just taking inventory at that point, not examining.

  34. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 6s 6 seconds ago

    Schaffe said that she need to estimate what kind of experts she would need and ho much it would cost. Martinez unable to trip her up.

  35. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 46s 47 seconds ago

    Schaffer says that she has to view evidence before asking boss for funds. Martinez says you have to fire up the computers to know.

  36. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 34s 34 seconds ago

    Frankly, Mr. Martinez, I did not know if you and Mr. Flores were going to let us turn on the computers that day.” Schaffer

  37. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 16s 16 seconds ago

    Martinez says she turned on the computer. “You authorized Det. Flores to turn on the computers, Mr. Martinez.”

  39. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 44s 44 seconds ago

    Schaffer: “If Mr. Martinez had told us that turning on the computers would destroy evidence, we would not have allowed that.”

  40. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 20s 21 seconds ago

    Schaffer: “Both the prosecution and the defense have a duty to preserve evidence…” regardless of who it may be harmful to.

  41. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 15s 15 seconds ago

    Schaffer did not know that turning it on would delete evidence. The only person who touched it and went through files was Martinez.

  43. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 23s 24 seconds ago

    Computer expert Brian Neumeister (sp) takes the stand.

  44. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 30s 31 seconds ago

    Folks, this went down way way before the Jodi Arias case became high profile. It was just another murder case, and there are lots here.

  45. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 8s 8 seconds ago

    Neumeister has worked for both defense and prosecutors.

  46. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 22s 22 seconds ago

    Neumeister’s company specializes in recovering computer data. His people must have 20 years experience, he says.

  47. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 13s 14 seconds ago

    Neumeister: First rule is “Change nothing.” It would be “like spitting on DNA.” Says you never turn on the computer at the crime scene.

  48. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 9s 9 seconds ago

    Neumeister: A write blocker makes it so you can read but not modify what’s on the drive. Says you never look at it by firing up computer.

  49. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 22s 22 seconds ago

    Neumeister says that as soon as you turn on a computer starts downloading files, updating and deleting cache files.

  50. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 35s 35 seconds ago

    Alexander’s computer was turned on twice without write blockers, deleting 50 mg of data, Neumeister said. #JodiArias

  52. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 25s 25 seconds ago

    On June 10, 10:20 p.m., the computer was turned on and “quite a few files were gone through and modified.”

    • The laptop was collected from the house & taken to Mesa PD on June 10th.

      SJ
      Team Jodi #WINNING

      • SJ – According to Flores’ report, a search warrant was executed at TA’s home on June 10,2008 but the time was 9:53 am, which was a full half hour after the time it was turned on/powered up. No one should have touched anything before that time.

        • What I am trying to say is, no one had any right to touch that computer or laptop until after the search warrant was issued,however it was powered up a half hour before the search warrant. It may well have been one of his roommates that did it and not the police, since it would have still been inside the house at that time.

          • Everyone was supposed to be OUT of the house until that warrant came through. This is a good catch Debbie!

          • There should have been no one in that house except a corpse and maybe a dog until that warrant was served. Good catch, Debbie!

        • Hi Debbie,
          Yes… the phrase “comedy of errors” springs to mind in relation to Mesa PD and their antics.
          SJ
          Team Jodi #WINNING

  53. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 17s 17 seconds ago

    Neumeister: “It was actually taken out of its sleep mode.” on that day.

  54. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
    June 10th, 9:27am Az time quite a few files were gone through and modified #jodiarias #3tvarias

  55. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 16s 17 seconds ago

    “The first thing it did was ping Southwest Airlines.” That automatic app left a time stamp of when the computer was turned on.

  56. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 16s16 seconds ago
    Expert says the first thing the laptop did was ping southwest airlines. #JodiArias

    Mdee ‏@EmsterD70 · 23s23 seconds ago
    @WildAboutTrial the police – it was day after travis was found

  57. Katie Conner ‏@KatieJConner · 32s32 seconds ago
    Expert: I could tell someone was looking at #TravisAlexander computer on June 10th #JodiArias #JuanMartinez #abc15

    • I wonder who would have been looking at Southwest Airline flights out of Mesa, perhaps to Cancun??? This was AFTER TA was deceased also, so it was someone else looking perhaps for a flight to Cancun to the PPL conference after they brought TA’s body back and went through TA’s computer to check for items to copy or delete??? Also, MPG said TA’s body was taken to another location for five days to perform Blood Atonement on TA and then his body was brought back to his house and placed in the shower with the symbolic cup & sacred underwear placed in washer for blood atonement ritual! The time frame of when the computer was accessed would correlate to when TA’s body was brought back to his house, which would be June 10th!!!

      Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??????????????

  58. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 34s 34 seconds ago

    It found Windows updates on Alexander computer and installed them, as well as an updated version of iTunes, recording over drive space data.

  59. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 18s 19 seconds ago

    Neumeister notes that deleting data does not completely remove it. Flash back to the camera in the washing machine. #JodiArias

          • Didn’t someone say that they (he and Jodi) had cameras alike?
            The camera thing has always bugged me.
            R. I NEVER believed Jodi would even want to put it in the washer.
            Another thing that doesn’t make sense. Among many!

            • No had Jodi wanted to destroy the camera she would have been smarter than that. A camera would not have been found at all, ever. IMO

            • Aly if I am not mistaken, it was one of TA’s roommates that had a similar camera to his. It seems to me he had discussed the camera with the roommate before purchasing one.

              • I’ve never believed Jodi put anything in the washer.
                None of that story makes any sense to me at all.
                The only thing that makes sense and they don’t or didn’t investigate into it more were the room mates and I’ve never understood that.

  60. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 41s41 seconds ago
    B explains just because a file is deleted, it is still there unless you use a file shredder. Fairly easy to recover and such. #JodiArias

  61. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 8s 9 seconds ago

    Neumeister has the files onscreen in the courtroom, showing when they were accessed, etc. Pages of things “that were not untouched data.”

  62. The Gold Patrol ‏@thegold patrol · 5s5 seconds ago
    #JodiAiras When expert turned on computer, software was updated, files were compromised by being written over &hard drive space being used.

    Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 26s26 seconds ago
    The computer was on for approx 45 mins. He shows a list of 100’s of files that were modified at that time. #JodiArias

  63. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
    #jodiarias has the wrist brace on again..

    Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN · 3m3 minutes ago
    Bryan says the computer was on from 9:27am to 10:13am (AZ time) #JodiArias

  64. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 43s 43 seconds ago

    Neumeister: “The state had it for five years, and we got it one day before the case started.”

  65. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 34s 35 seconds ago

    Neumeister shows the files modified on June 10. Then it was shut down through regular method, which dumped cache files.

  66. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 11s11 seconds ago
    This is all June 10th, which is the timestamp that didn’t match in the original motion. #TravisAlexander had been dead for days. #JodiArias

  67. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 25s 25 seconds ago

    If a computer is on at a crime scene, you do no turn it off, Neumeister said. It will dump everything in the memory.

  68. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 26s26 seconds ago
    There was no way to tell which cache files were deleted explains B. They are gone. Never power upshut down a cpu for evidence #JodiArias

    William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 31s31 seconds ago
    Expert says when the computer is shut down Windows clears the cache. Says that’s unrecoverable. that’s why you never touch it. #JodiArias

    • I feel the need to say some expletives, but will keep it clean. Gaaaaaaaah! I bet most law enforcement teams don’t know that, even without trying to be corrupt. I’m sure they just don’t knw

  69. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 32s32 seconds ago
    Any key evidence that was in memory is now gone forever possibly due 2 this action of turning on & off without a write blocker #jodiariaws

  70. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 43s 44 seconds ago

    Alexander computer was turned off June 10, 2008. Neumeister says it was a violation of computer forensic protocol. #JodiArias

  71. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 10s10 seconds ago
    here’s where we sit: expert says laptop powered up Juen 10th, after TA was dead. Laptop downloaded programs.

    Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv · 11s11 seconds ago
    Def. computer expert making it sound like Mesa PD bungled basic protocol in handling TA’s computer #JodiArias #3TVArias

  72. Katie Conner ‏@KatieJConner · 34s34 seconds ago
    Expert: After June 10, 2008 he knows files were deleted and are not recoverable #JodiArias #TravisAlexander #abc15

  73. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 23s 23 seconds ago

    The computer was next turned on June 19, 2009, the day of the examination, again without a write blocker. #JodiArias

  74. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 33s 33 seconds ago

    When the computer was turned on in 2009, it started installing the programs downloaded on June 10, 2008, overwriting other files. #JodiArias

  75. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN · 3m3 minutes ago
    Bryan says #1 rule is to never turn on or off a computer at a crime scene. It will delete memory info. #JodiArias

    William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 55s55 seconds ago
    Now we’re on to June 19th, the day the laptop was turned on in the evidence room for the defense attorneys. #JodiArias

  76. The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 10s10 seconds ago
    #JodiArias Willmott asks if computer being turned on and off like that was a violation and witness agrees that it is a big violation

    William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 40s40 seconds ago
    Expert says June 19th, 2009 the laptop was turned on again and it tried to install the updates it had downloaded a year earlier. #JodiArias

  77. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 14s14 seconds ago
    expert says itunes was installed, which requires a user ok. says hes never seen an apple product install itself. neither have i. #JodiArias

  78. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 39s39 seconds ago
    2500 files were modified, accessed or deleted according to expert #jodiarias

  79. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    Neumeister puts up a registry of files deleted. “Someone kind of rummaged through the files without a write blocker.” 2500 files modified

  80. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 33s33 seconds ago
    The computer was turned off at 3:10 PM. It was a hard shutdown, either unplugged or the power button was held down. #JodiArias

  81. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 24s 24 seconds ago

    It was a hard shut down, either the plug pulled or turned off by button or it crashed. June 19, 2009. Per Neumeister.

  83. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · now
    In two days we have thousands of files that were modified. It was not turned on and off with a rightblocker. #JodiArias

    WHAT????

  84. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · now
    Expert says laptop was contaminated by bad forensics. #JodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom ‏@monicalindstrom · 4s4 seconds ago
    Who rummaged through the files? Was it the person checking out the computer or was it the computer itself? @michaelbkiefer #JodiArias

        • I’m not sure they ever had it in their possession. They talked about going through his email with the help of a webmaster but they could do that from any computer by going to the email website and never touching T’s computer. But maybe I’m missing further information.

            • Alter the computer? Or the mail? The mail stored on his email server space, they could mess with.

              In order to mess with his computer – or any mail stored on his computer – the computer (where ever it is) would have to be turned on and connected to the internet and then it could be changed or manipulated by someone who knows what they’re doing. (I’ve had tech support on the phone who asked to access my computer – it’s creepy to watch!)

              • I know I had to do the same with my computer and it is strange to see tech support do things with your computer and your not even touching it. If they knew when the computer was going to be checked out then they maybe could have done something to it from somewhere else. It would have been a short time frame but if they were expecting it not so hard. I would still think there would be a trail of that too.

                • And it would have had to have a internet connection, R. Love. I wouldn’t think a police department would have ‘free wi-fi’, so someone with access to the computer in evidence would have had to establish a net connection — I think that’s too much of a stretch. If you’ve got someone inside to establish a net connection you’ve got someone inside to do the dirty work.

                • Maybe. . .but there were some pretty shady things happening around the police department and the prosecutor’s office. . .”so will we ever know”?. . My new favorite saying. LOL

                • Response to R.Love comment 11/21/14 7:08 pm: I had technical support control my computer on several occasions, once recently, & it is strange to see how it operates.
                  …For information on what I am talking about please Google: teamviewer and click on link teamviewer.com or http://www.teamviewer.com ,,, and it explains how to download (free) the program or I guess you can buy the software in a store, or the person doing the controlling (the controller) sends you that link.
                  …You send your IP# to (the controller) & he/she sends a drop down box which has your IP# in it & the program issues you a password#, in that box.
                  …You tell the controller by phone or text (that password) & he/she does something with it on the controller end.
                  …Then the controller he/she, tells you don’t touch anything ! !
                  …And the controller can do anything to your computer & move anything around & you see it on your screen. …You can also move things around but the controller will say Don’t touch anything! …
                  …The controlling computer can be (anybody, any computer) you give access to.
                  …And, to get out of it I guess you just exit the program or turn your computer off & on again.
                  …The only thing I know is to send the IP# & the password & take my hands off the keyboard & off the mouse. ….The operation is weird ! !
                  ………It is possible that Travis could have turned over control of his computer to someone (a remote controller) as a routine operation when he wanted to go to sleep or do other things, IMHO. …Someone whom he would trust. …
                  …But surely, all these thing would be found out by the defense forensic computer expert Neumeister. …Maybe strange thing will be found out next time he is on stand??? ..In my opinion. …Hope I did not do any typos!

  85. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 39s 39 seconds ago

    Neumeister says it is like picking up evidence with out gloves and destroying fingerprints. #JodiArias

  86. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 3s3 seconds ago
    Testimony from state said no virus’s during 1st trial. Bryan says he has pages and pages of virus’s on the computer #jodiarias #3tvarias

    William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 9s9 seconds ago
    Expert says laptop was LOADED with viruses. He has 3 pages of viruses, trojans, etc. Def says pros looked for viruses and didn’t find any.

  87. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 14s 15 seconds ago

    Neumeister: “It was just absolutely loaded with viruses.” Three pages worth. Means the infecting sites were visited multiple times.

  88. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 19s 19 seconds ago

    “There were so many links that weren’t caused by viruses…individually searched by keys.” He had heard there was no porn, per cop testimony

  89. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 15s15 seconds ago
    Tons of porn links that were individually searched on computer #jodiarias

  90. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 38s38 seconds ago
    Expert says he was told there was no viruses on laptop based on previous testimony so he cloned the drive 3X to make sure it was right.

  91. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 3m3 minutes ago
    Some porn links were caused by viruses but many were just sought out by someone. It was “just loaded” with porn. #JodiArias

  92. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 20s20 seconds ago
    Privacy scrubbers were on the computer #3tvarias #jodiarias

    William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 1m1 minute ago
    Expert found 19 antivirus, registry cleaner, spyware removal programs on #TravisAlexander ‘s laptop. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 1m1 minute ago
    There were 19 diff programs for guarding privacy and erasing tracks found on the computer. He has a list of them up. #JodiArias

  93. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    Neumeister says Alexander had 19 separate programs for guarding privacy, debugging, spyware, scrubbing registry, erasing internet history.

  94. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN · 7m7 minutes ago
    Expert says between the two days that the comp was turned on/off, thousands of files were modified w/out write blocker. #JodiArias

  95. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    One program that gets rid of history: “It’s only use is to erase your tracks.” Neumeister #JodiArias

  96. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 52s 53 seconds ago

    Tony Novitsky, Juan Martinez’ boss is sitting at the prosecutor table.

  97. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 36s36 seconds ago
    if this is all true, Mesa PD could have a big evidence handling problem on their hands. #JodiArias @12news

    Duh!

  99. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 53s 53 seconds ago

    Neumeister “If you don’t want anyone seeing what you’re doing, you would use something like that.” They didn’t work. “It was just loaded.”

  100. The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 10s10 seconds ago
    #jodiairas First trial it was testify there were no viruses on computer. Witness said multiple viruses found. Also porn sites searched for

  101. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 12s 12 seconds ago

    Neumeister: Some of the viruses on Alexander’s computer, which came from porn sites, had been removed from the computer several times.

  102. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 3s3 seconds ago
    Remind me when I get back to the justice center to torch the office and computers and start fresh. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 28s28 seconds ago
    B explains something called Z-lob which is usually acquired through a porn website. It’s a special player to watch videos. #JodiArias

  103. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 18s 19 seconds ago

    Neumeister: Some of the viruses work when you install special movie player for porn site. That redirects to other sites.

  104. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 14s 14 seconds ago

    Now Neumeister shows a list of porn sites searched on June 1, 2008. They are in viewing history, not from viruses. #JodiArias

            • It will be interesting to see whether JM calls the POS PIO as a witness today – make him get up there and do what he did about the order-of-injuries “mix-up” — he’ll say he “misunderstood” the instruction that he shouldn’t turn on the computer, he thought the rules said he COULD, and he’s not a doctor – er computer forensics specialist – so he wouldn’t know about these things.

          • Journee,
            If Flores takes the blame, I’m sure his price for doing so will be at least 2 million. Or, he’s going to turn on Martinez and blow the case wide open. But, would Flores ever take it on himself to take any action (like tampering with evidence) on his own that might destroy JM’s case? Martinez would have him “suicided” (sic on purpose)

            • Now that you mention it, there was a tiny hint of Flores rebellion when Nurmi finally got him on cross a few weeks ago, wasn’t there? Very difficult to say for sure, going just by tweets, but it really sounded like he was standing a little more firmly on his original position (gunshot first), not doing the meek, fall on his sword “I made a mistake” thing. I don’t remember what was said, but I remember posting that he’d all but lost his job already anyway and maybe he’d decided not to cow-tow to JM anymore.

  105. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 15s 15 seconds ago

    Neumeister: “There were also escort sites that I pulled up.”

  108. JW needs to ask whether ALL of that porn and related stuff had actually been deleted and had to be restored by BN, or whether some of it was ‘in plain sight’ and state witnesses just lied about it…

    or, I dunno, is that a good question to ask since the motion is about the state deleting the evidence?

    • This is the only real opportunity they’ve had from the very beginning to get anywhere, I’m praying they exploit it in every way they can! Free Jodi!

      • johm,
        I’m with you.
        This is all of what juan and many others did not want to be told.
        They thought that they could just whisk her own off to prison.
        Hopefully they will be taking Jodi’s cell. All of them together.

  109. Troy Hayden ‏@troyhaydenfox10 · 7m7 minutes ago
    @jeffgoldesq but did Martinez cover up porn use in last trial. That is the issue.

    WOW these people are smart, aren’t they!!!

  110. I know this might sounds sick but I want him to show something about kiddy porn. I want Jodi to be able to walk out to day with everyone knowing She did not lie on the stand…

  111. I am so livid, fuming, I can’t even describe how angry I am. We are looking at disbarment, criminal charges, and immediate halt to current retrial bc of this evidence now coming to light IMHO. I firmly believe that this prosecution team is in this up to their eyeballs – they were in full control and possession of this computer the entire time. Who accessed on June 10, 2008? It could only have been prosecutor’s office. No one else! I also believe that the first defense team atty was purposely set up on June 19, 2008 with the JM and Flores knowing full well that when that computer was turned on more evidence of the porn would be destroyed IMHO. They were hoping that all this would be destroyed or hidden so as to never be discovered and if it ever came to light they would be able to point the finger at the first defense atty. The first defense atty did nothing – it was all the prosecution team IMHO. And again as I have said before if not for this need for vengence and this retrial to try to kill Jodi NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER SEEN THE LIGHT OF DAY. It is through the prosecutions’ own arrogance that this has come to light thankfully for Jodi. What should happen now? This retrial should be halted immediately!!! The criminal conviction should be set aside and Jodi should either be given an immediate retrial on the criminal charges or she should be released and the case dismissed with prejudice as a remedy for the complete injustice thrust upon Jodi Arias who was denied her constitutional rights to a fair trial. IS ANYBODY WITH ME ON THIS????

  112. WHY am I always at work when the best things happen??????? 😀 😀 😀

    Yay, f**king YAY!

    Are they on recess?

  113. Well kids if JM’s boss is smart he would take the DP off the table now!!! There is no way out of this one. Who they going to blame it on??
    The computer was in their possession.

    • JM will blame Mesa PD, and that might work to get *him* out of trouble, but it’s still going to weaken the status of Jodi’s conviction – as well as the convictions of everyone else whose cases hinged on computer forensics at Mesa PD.

        • Meaning I think that JSS is going to deny the defense motion.

          But all of this increases Jodi’s chance for reversal on appeal.

          AND may end up getting a few other convictions overturned as well – cases involving computer forensic work done at Mesa PD, because they ROYALLY screwed up this one.

  114. Hummmmm I wounder what the haters are saying now….

    For the taxpayers of AZ you blame Jodi for the cost of this trial??? Look again at how corrupt things are.

  116. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv · 2h2 hours ago
    Pros. Martinez in interesting position-representing and defending himself against very serious charges of tampering #JodiArias #3TVArias

    ……..a fool for a client – a really big fool…….

  117. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 41s 41 seconds ago

    Computer expert Neumeister says that 70,000 files were scrubbed, zeroed out by a program that is not on Alexander’s computer. #JodiArias

  118. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 10s 10 seconds ago

    Neumeister now going through manual searches that are not files downloaded by virus. #JodiArias

  119. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 18s 19 seconds ago

    Willmott asks if Spybot will keep the computer from accessing porn (as Martinez said). Neumeister says it is “an after-the-fact cleanup.”

  120. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 33s 33 seconds ago

    Neumeister says there were 6,125 hits on the word “teen” during his search. 11,625 hits on “Tween,” though some include “between.”

  121. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 11s 11 seconds ago

    Some of the hits could be combos of words, Neumeister cautions.

  123. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 22s 23 seconds ago

    Neumeister says there were lots of porn sites about teens, usually with the word “slut” attached, visited by Alexander’s computer #JodiArias

  125. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 6s 6 seconds ago

    Neumeister found 90 pages of “stuff” that was in the registry of Alexander’s computer, not just in the history. #JodiArias

  126. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 35s 35 seconds ago

    Martinez is trying to block defense from asking Neumeister other forensic information in a motion that goes to potential misconduct.

  127. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    All of the data cards had been removed from the phones when they were given to Neumeister by the state for analysis, making it impossible.

  128. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 20s 20 seconds ago

    Sounds like at least three phones were missing cards. A video camera was smashed, but Neumeister was able to extract videos.

  129. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 35s 36 seconds ago

    The still camera was supposed to have two SIM cards, but only had one. #JodiArias

  130. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 6s 6 seconds ago

    One external drive had no operating software on it. Neumeister ran tests and said there was not a trace of anything on it.

  131. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 7s 7 seconds ago

    The external drive was not faulty, it was just blank. Another drive was marked as broken with a sign not to power it on. #JodiArias

  132. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 19s 20 seconds ago

    Neumeister does not understand why the porn and viruses were not found in six years since the murder. #JodArias

  133. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 7s 7 seconds ago

    Willmott puts transcript onscreen of Det. Melendez testimony saying he checked for virus and found none. Neumeister says they were obvious.

  134. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 58s 59 seconds ago

    Melendez testimony in transcript onscreen says he went through internet history and registry and just found social media websites.

  136. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 6s 7 seconds ago

    Neumeister on the computer porn: “You couldn’t miss it.” “It wasn’t the elephant in the room, it was the aircraft carrier in the room.”

  137. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 35s 36 seconds ago

    Martinez starts cross by bringing up the last forensic expert on the case, Lonnie Dworkin. Yes/no.

  138. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 20s 20 seconds ago

    Neumeister understands that the prior expert reviewed the evidence he was given. Martinez says that that expert evaluated it and found none.

  139. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 22s 23 seconds ago

    Neumeister says the first guy was not given a raw file to get deep enough into the drive. Or he used clone that Mesa PD did.

  140. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 15s 16 seconds ago

    Willmott objects to Martinez not letting Neumeister finish. Stephens asks Neumeister to finish.

  141. ichael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 16s 17 seconds ago

    Neumeister: “There was so much date there, Juan, it was impossible.”

  142. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 25s 26 seconds ago

    Martinez wants to know why Neumeister didn’t look at 2008 clone. “There was no need.” “I’m not asking you that.” “Yes or no.”

  143. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 18s 19 seconds ago

    Neumeister: “It was an incompetent clone.”

  144. Just now when BN called JM Juan I remembered – this is another sticky problem for JM, because TWICE during the first trial BN testified in evidentiary hearings and BOTH times JM agreed to stipulate to the evidence BN provided because BN does so much work for the state – he couldn’t afford to discredit a witness he uses so often.

  145. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 14s 14 seconds ago

    Martinez goes to the missing SIM cards. Asks if the defendant was involved in shenanigans with cell phones. Maybe Mesa found them without.

  146. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 29s 30 seconds ago

    Neumeister says it is rare that the phone comes to him without SIM cards of data card. “You don’t know, do you?” Martinez says. #JodiArias

  148. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 12s 12 seconds ago

    Martinez brings up that the Compaq computer is not a Dell.

  149. please, if the phones had no cards when Mesa took them, where the hell did the 80.000 text messages come from?

  150. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago

    “You’re making judgments about my questions? You don’t like my questions?” Neumeister says they’re irrelevant and Martinez is spinning.

  151. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · now 1 minute ago
    “You’re making judgments about my questions? You don’t like my questions?” Neumeister says they’re irrelevant and Martinez is spinning.

    I wanna KISS this guy!

  152. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    “That’s hilarious!” Neumeister says to Martinez after one of his questions.

  153. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 12s 13 seconds ago

    Neumeister says he doesn’t know who looked at what drive earlier. Martinez: “But you don’t know.” Neumeister: “I just said that.”

  154. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · now 12 seconds ago
    Expert “Or you were trying to keep it from evidence” #jodiarias #3tvarias
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    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · now 1 minute ago
    Any competent expert would find this. Juan says “So you are saying Lonnie is incompetent” #jodiarias #3tvarias

  155. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 28s 28 seconds ago

    Martinez keeps trying to get Neumeister to say Dworkin is incompetent. Over and over. Neumeister says he may have been given an incomplete.

  156. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 38s 38 seconds ago

    Neumeister: “I think you just don’t understand computers, Juan. … Can I explain?” Martinez, “No.”

  157. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 42s 43 seconds ago

    No Martinez asking Neumeister if he was incompetent. Says he broke the computer. “Did you do it intentionally or accidentally?”

    • I’ve lost count… how many people has martinez accused up to now? Can we all say ‘desperate’??!!!

  159. Neumeister is not taking any garbage off of JM. This is a great witness and JM will NOT be able to spin his way out of this….

    • he’s such a great witness that he’s worked WITH JM quite often – no doubt why BN is so comfortable calling JM on the BS.

  160. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 17s 17 seconds ago

    The lawyers just got called back to chambers. Martinez is very angry.

  161. Michael Kiefer retweeted
    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Juan just charged to the judges chambers #jodiarias #3tvarias

  167. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 9s 9 seconds ago

    The public information officer just got called back to chambers. Are we gong to get kicked out again?

  168. Hello, I’m new here but have been following this site and the updates quite closely. It was hard to keep quiet after reading all of this about this legendary witness. He’s possibly the best one we’ve ever had on this case. He made Juan so angry that he just charged out of there like a whiny baby? Hahaha. Oh lord. This is gold.

      • Thank you. Juan can be very entertaining… but the judge just annoys the crap out of me. Is she asleep? If I were her, I would end this fiasco right here and now. This has dragged on for too long. It is a complete joke.

  170. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 43s 44 seconds ago

    Bench conference. Stephens looks angry now.

  171. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 14s 15 seconds ago

    Martinez resumes. Someone got a talking to.

  173. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 39s 39 seconds ago

    Martinez is asking about the various programs used in the analysis.

  174. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 44s 44 seconds ago

    Here comes the clone identified as “Tony.” They grabbed the wrong image and sent to Martinez. They then sent a correct one. Tony is a tech

  175. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 35s 36 seconds ago

    The hearing is going to end here. Martinez is demanding copies of other clones. It will reconvene Dec. 4.

  176. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 20s 21 seconds ago

    Neumeister asks if after having the computer for six years, he wants a copy of everything Neumeister has. N says he already has it.

  177. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 20s 20 seconds ago

    Willmott repeats that Martinez just doesn’t understand.

  178. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 27s 27 seconds ago

    Judge asks if they can just get it. Martinez says it is at Mesa PD. Neumeister asks to see broken computer. Martinez says no.

    • IMO, what JM really wants is for his guys to get their hands on the exact ‘clone’ that BN worked with so they can destroy/lose/discredit it.

      • If they are smart they better make sure that they have a copy of the clone so if that happens there is still a copy available to examine

  180. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 13s 14 seconds ago

    Wrong copy was initially sent marked “Tony” and from a Dell Computer. Martinez noted Alexander had a Compaq. Tony, a tech works on a Dell.

  181. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 32s 32 seconds ago

    Adjourned until Monday. This hearing continues Dec. 4.

  182. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts • 3m3 minutes ago
    Martinez sounds like he’s about to snap but holding back. Hard. #JodiArias

    I hope he has a breakdown!!

  184. Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq • 3m3 minutes ago
    #teenporn is not equal to child porn.

    Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq • 3m3 minutes ago
    Given what #Jodiass pics we have seen, wonder what this xxxpert says were files too “vile” to look at? Net is filled with legal “teenporn”

    This man is slimy…..

  185. Here’s a nice little after note from Wild:

    Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 4m 4 minutes ago
    Witness B walks over to shakes #JodiArias’ hand & smile at her! #FRIENDS

  186. In my opinion, JM is desperately trying to deflect from the fact that there was a ton of porn on TA’s computer that had been accessed and searched for by the user (TA) according to what Neumeister testified to. The prosecution has had the computer for 5-6 years before defense were even allowed to examine. The defense is not even done with their examination of this computer but JM is desperate to stop this bc he knows that this is damaging his case beyond repair IMHO. Accusing this expert of damaging the computer is simply not credible. It was always in the hands and control of the prosecution. KN and JW need to stay strong and focused and not allow JM to deflect but stay on course to demonstrate and prove that this evidence of porn was purposefully hidden and destroyed to the fatal detriment of the defense. So much so that there is only one remedy – to set aside the criminal verdict and either dismiss with prejudice or grant a new trial. Neumeister said it himself on the stand that Juan was trying to skirt around the fact that there was porn on the computer.

  187. So now what happens with the retrial? There’s definitely porn, but is anyone in a position to go ahead with any witnesses or is it on hold now do you think?

    • They will proceed, I think. From what Jen posted early in the day, it looks like Monday will be the only trial date next week. Wed and Thurs were already black for the holiday, and Nurmi goes before the appeals court on Tuesday on the sealed courtroom issue.

    • The retrial should stop but knowing the history of JSS she will plod ahead anyway. It is going to take a higher court ruling to stop the retrial. How can they proceed with a retrial on whether to put Jodi to death or not when it is crystal clear that she never received a fair trial and her constitutional rights were flagrantly violated??? The criminal verdict needs to be set aside. I would think KN and JW are arguing for a hold on the retrial but JSS cant see missing her golf games…….so we must keep on schedule ………yeah right

      • BB,
        I agree. It seems like a waste of time and money to continue when there is such a cloud of suspicion hanging over this trial now. Does Martinez have any credibility left? I don’t know if JSS has a boss that could step in and advise her to call a stop. Maybe, it will come to a screeching halt next week after they have the weekend to mull it over.
        It sure is nice to “hear” all the haters whining and crying though. It does a body good.

    • A no-brainer to me, but we are dealing with the clueless masses still buying into the TA “image”. There’s absolutely no telling what really existed on the phones, cameras, computers far beyond what we are learning now.

      • It would support Jodi’s case if there was, but for the motion it doesn’t matter – what matters for the motion is not that there was porn, or how much of it there was, or what kind of porn it was, it is whether or not the prosecution knew about it and concealed it from the defense.

  189. BTW anyone remember the famous comment TA made about a 12 year old on the sex tape? This is the same kind of mentality that a statement like “teen porn is not child porn” unfortunately may produce….No child porn is okay, period, no matter how old the child.

  190. I have to admit I haven’t laughed this hard in a very long time. I don’t think that the state will be calling Mr. B for anymore work.

    What a stand up man he is.

    • According to a few episodes of L&O SVU (love ’em or hate ’em, they do like to tackle issues that police and courts are currently struggling with –

      There are people who are LEGALLY producing “teen porn” – by using young looking models and/or age regression software. As long as the models are of legal age, there’s no law broken.

  192. What a day! It’s the most fun I’ve had…almost ever. And, none of it had such prolonged pleasure. I wonder if the Neumeister (does that translate to the “new master?”) was showing the lack of regard people that work around Juan Martinez have for him. He didn’t hold back any punches. Juan is a paper tiger. He can dish it but he can’t take it. This is going to be such big news, I can’t imagine someone won’t say to a juror: “Did you hear what happened to Juan.” As someone said on Twitter, Juan is going to be a joy to live with the next few days.

    • Yikes I hope his wife ran for the hills. I wounder what was said in JSS chambers… would have loved to the DT faces…it was a good day for them and Jodi.

    • I think Flores and Horn should be locked in the house with him for the weekend to endure each other after JM’s fabulous day!

    • I was away and had to catch up with everything ^^^^, and you know what? I ahd the biggest smile on my face the entire time 😀 😀

      What a day, indeed….. Neumeister ROCKED!!!!! He called out the frog for what he is, no fear, no holding back, no beating about the bush! He did a great job, deep down I wish the jurors were i that courtroom today so they could see with their own eyes what a slimy corrupted person Martinez is. As I’ve said before, he’s a disgrace to the Judicial System. Poor Lady Justice!

  193. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 6m6 minutes ago
    70,000 files were scrubbed and it wasn’t a program installed on the computer #jodiarias #3tvarias

    William Pitts ‏@william_pitts • 6m6 minutes ago
    computer forensics guys tell me scrubber programs (permanent delete) leave traces behind when you use them. #JodiArias

    Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 4m4 minutes ago
    Computer expert Neumeister says that 70,000 files were scrubbed, zeroed out by a program that is not on Alexander’s computer. #JodiArias

    Wonder how that happened and who did it. I watched a TV show about an Australian prosecutor and a child porn case. They were talking about being able to detect when a computer had been scrubbed.

    • It looks like the prosecution computer investigation was either bungled or something more sinister was at play. Either way, bad day for Mr. Martinez. I wonder if he wishes he could turn back the clock to the time before going for the death penalty. He is digging in deeper and deeper.

  196. Thank you my darlings you are fighters. So I will be dancing tonight. What a weasel Juan is. Really a liar thank God somebody checked him. Go on I know karma is a bitch but a bitch will come and bite you in the ass.

  197. Cindy Jewell, See what I mean about the tides turning? I think some of the haters have their tails between their legs…

  198. I hope he gets what is coming for him [Juan] no one should be that disrespectful. Only Juan, what a little man complex. I pray for her I know she loved TA but Jodi it is time to live. He was a abuser. NOT GUILTY EVER.

  200. Dancing at home with hubby for my girl you go girl. Never have I seen a miscarriage of justices. Wow if nothing is done it will be a disgrace to America.. The world is watching.

  201. I am really hoping that all this stuff holds up in trial and that Martinez gets his due. It will be interesting to know if his new sidekick at his table in court remains with him now or if Flores comes back.

    • Where is Flores?
      Maybe he couldn’t be in court because he’s going to be called to testify.
      He has to be at some time. In fact why won’t they have a serious investigation?
      It’s not right that Jodi had to sit there and be called a liar by everyone when they KNEW who the real liars were.

      • I am not sure where Flores was today Aly. It was reported that Martinez’s boss was sitting at the table with him, most likely because of the allegations brought forth by the defense.

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