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Here is a listing of the specific issues covered during the oral arguments.
IT IS ORDERED granting appellant’s motion. The court has determined that counsel should be prepared at oral argument to address, inter alia, the following:
1. What Arizona Supreme Courts cases most accurately describe the standard of review for addressing prosecutorial misconduct?
2. If this courts concludes that serious, intentional prosecutorial misconduct permeated the trial, is Arias entitled to a new trial? Would double jeopardy attach?
3. What factors are relevant in deciding whether Arias was denied a fair trial based upon prosecutorial misconduct? To what extent does ongoing publicity throughout the trial affect that determination?
4. If Arias was denied a fair trial, is prejudice presumed under the third prong of the test outlined in State V. Escalante, 245 Ariz. (2018)?
5. Was Arias deprived of her ability to present her defense to the jury?
6. Assuming prosecutorial misconduct occurred, has the State met its burden of showing, beyond a reasonable doubt, that such alleged misconduct resulted in nothing more that harmless error (that the guilty verdict was surely unattributable to the prosecutorial misconduct)?
7. Assuming prosecutorial misconduct occurred, has Arias met her burden of showing fundamental, prejudicial error (that a reasonable jury could have found her not guilty but for the prosecutorial misconduct??
8. What authority supports reversing a conviction based upon prosecutorial misconduct in the face of overwhelming evidence of guilt?
9. Conversely, what authority supports affirming a conviction when there has been pervasive intentional prosecutorial misconduct?
10. If overwhelming evidence of guilt insulates a verdict from reversal regardless of the extent of the prosecutor’s misconduct, how can/should a court hold prosecutors to their ethical obligations under the rules of professional responsibility?
11. What steps. if any, might a court take to constrain a prosecutor’s conduct inside the courtroom during proceedings? Does a court have any authority to control the conduct of attorneys when they are outside the courtroom if it impacts the proceedings taking place inside the courtroom?
12. Should publicity outside the courtroom be considered when determining if there was a circus-like atmosphere surrounding the trial? Can activities publicity occurring outside the courtroom warrant a reversal?
Counsel should be prepared to answer any questions listed above. The court will allow the parties to address the issues in the order they believe most persuasive to their case.
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First impression of oral argument: the judges were much more receptive to the defense’s claims than I expected. At least two of them (and maybe three since the third was hard to hear) seem to be appalled by Martinez’s behavior. There was an interesting disagreement between state and defense on the relevance of whether pros misconduct is “intentional.” Sounded to me as though the defense may be right on this, but I’d have to look at the case law to know.
Only clear conclusion I drew: Crist, though very capable, is an arrogant prick.
Argument about jury being influenced:
We all know that jurors lie about their interactions with news coverage about a case they’re on.
Everyone that is not sequestered cheats! EVERYONE!!!
It’s human nature to be curious.
Especially about a case and a trial that has worldwide interest!!!
Those three judges are not stupid. They know. They know that it is very very very easy to be influenced by the flow of the mob… If you have HLN blasting Jodi’s name every single day on various programs, it’s impossible not to watch and hear about it. Especially if everyone is on a witch hunt to burn Jodi alive!!!!
Heh, that was informative…
Everyone, from AZ governor to the newspaper boy had an opinion in this case and those opinions were broadcasted on loop 24/7.
Claiming the jury was not tainted is ridiculous to its core.
Yeah, the judges seem to favor the defense’s stance, but in the end, the decision is what matters, especially when a decision in Jodi’s favor will open an untold number of legal and political cans of worms.
Prosecutorial misconduct argument:
The judges used numbers. It wasn’t once, it wasn’t twice…. it was many many times!!!!
39 objections that were sustained…
Plethora of motions.
You can’t turn a blind eye…
The issue about his behavior towards Willmott was correctly pointed out: if the jury can’t hear him, is it ok for him to treat and speak to a fellow attorney IN A COURTHOUSE, DURING A FUCKING TRIAL, the way he did????And get away with it because he’s ‘TEFLON’???? In other words, they already know that Sherry pickles screwed up royally too.
I loved how they referred to Martinez acting like a superstar and said all the right words that would define “famewhore”.
Finally, how can a trial be fair when all of Jodi’s witnesses, attorneys, family received DEATH THREATS so that they wouldn’t testify. And many witnesses backed away from testifying because of those threats as well as the backlash from Martinez, the media and the mob.
Yep
“Not that we want to…” (reverse the court decision)
Freudian slip???
Maybe not…. One can argue that although they don’t want to go against a trial verdict and sentencing because it shows disrespect for the jurors, the judge, the family and the state, in this situation, because of Martinez’s ENORMOUS prosecutorial misconduct, their hands are tied and they CAN’T turn a blind eye!!!!
In simple English: Jodi did NOT get a fair trial.
I just watched the oral argument and I am happy that the judges seemed unbiased, and genuinely willing for a just and correct outcome, relentlessly and unapologetically pointing to true occurrences – not hiding from the lynch mob as everyone has learned to do (because they don’t have to). This certainly put the rather mercenary opposition in his place.
The video was removed! Oh well, it’s probably for the best since I have a ton of homework. I am so glad Jodi is being heard. Go, Jodi !!!
In general I have to say it is ridiculous regarding the amount of issues that SHOULD have been discussed/raised to schedule this for a “whole” one hour only, in fact it was only 55 minutes.
I watched this while I was live streaming myself and excused myself in advance to my viewers that I make a kind of break for like 2+ hours to watch/listen to this, and then after 55 minutes it was over?! What?! (I missed the beginning where the one judge said 30 minutes for each party.)
While not even 50 % of the issues were raised? I found that inappropiate and ridiculous and first thought for a moment they just make a break or something but was obviously too optimistic and mistaken.
Not to speak about their horrible and unprofessioobnal audio AND video setup. The ABC recording is much better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhcPRzjHEPg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2ZkICcuKuxQlUIPQqF91lHvEyz5HO37hACFhmkUzU-R7Zh0enPYUDbOiw
This is about someone’s life and they give it a whole 55 minutes after what, more than 4 years preparation!? – and now probably need like 3 years (intended exaggeration of course) to decide?
Law people – really some special kind of nutjobss – and in addition the slugs in the professional world regarding their pace/performance.
The mentioned “overwhelming evidence” bs which is and was always only a rumor makes me sceptical though.
“Overwhelming evidence” exists only in the disturbed heads of shallow and stupid people dumb enough to fall for Turtle Boy’s, to intelligent people obvious, conjuror tricks though. It was fabricated out of literally nothing, this so-called “evidence”.
Like a magician who pulls a rabbit out of his hat, and the degenerated morons in the audience and jury etc. were all like “Oh look, how cute, a gnome pulls a rabbit out of his hat!”.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2019/10/17/attorneys-jodi-arias-say-her-murder-conviction-should-overturned-because-misconduct-juan-martinez/3997472002/
First, I would agree with Frank that this was an appeal that needed more time to be argued. 30 minutes a side for a trial that lasted several months. It seems that the central point, as stated by Joey Jackson, the attorney on CNN was the cumulative error vs. the overwhelming evidence issue. The talking heads brought this up quite a bit. The argument that, no matter how bad JM behaved, the states’ evidence was overwhelming in it’s entirety and that the courts don’t overturn convictions based on prosecutor behavior. He went on to say that a defendant is entitled to a fair trial and not a “perfect trial” My question would be.. “How imperfect is he allowed to be to when it stops being fair?” I do think that one does lead to the other at some point.
Yep exactly, in addition to the fact that there is no “overwhelming evidence” when you look at it in a really honest, intellectual and objective way and not start to talk about it 3 hours before you start to think (or research the actual facts and not recite rumor and hearsay spread by dipshit medai like DisGrace and Co).
I have always believed that the “overwhelming evidence” that people keep using is the evidence of violence. It was obvious that a violent struggle occurred and a gun and a knife were used in the struggle due to the blood at the scene and Travis’ autopsy. JM stated in several interviews later that he was concerned that Jodi was going to be acquitted although he does not go into specific detail. I also do not remember him trying to use Jodi’s initial plea offer of manslaughter against her while she was pro se (without counsel in US legal talk) before Nurmi finally took over the case. I would have expected an ADA to take that offer as an admission of some sort of guilt? IF overwhelming evidence existed, why would he be concerned about an acquittal?? I have not heard many, if any, people ask JM why he would have been worried about this. Thoughts?
Lance, you may have an excellent point there, or even two. If the evidence was overwhelming, why was Martinez worried about an acquittal?
Lkewise, I do think some people, even judges, confuse overwhelming violence with overwhelming evidence of guilt. In reality, the violence level is irrelevant as long as it’s consistent with either premeditated murder or self-defense, as it is. For that matter, every day some hater posts that she’s obviously guilty because she obviously killed him — which wasn’t even disputed! I think we can concede there’s overwhelming evidence she killed him.
That even an appellate judge can be confused about such issues is shown by Judge Cattani’s statement in his blog that “there was never any doubt” about Jodi’s guilt. In other words, he judged her guilty even before trial, without giving self-defense any consideration at all.
Just off the top of my head, here are four reasons to say the evidence of premeditation is certainly not “overwhelming.”
1 An experienced Phoenix defense attorney described the evidence of premeditation as “pathetic” in 2013.
2 Nurmi’s final argument quite effectively rebutted the premeditation evidence point by point. It’s one of at least two things he did well, along with objecting in written motions to preserve issues for appeal.
3 Just to my own knowledge, at least 3 of Jodi’s trial professionals believed her testimony as to self-defense: Alyce LaViolette, Jennifer Willmott, and Maria de la Rosa. The men I don’t know about, but they, and the female psychologist at the second trial, may well have believed it too.
Unfortunately, it isn’t a rule of law that when at least one certified expert testifies to a thing, belief in it must be reasonable. Logically, it should be, though, as far as I can see.
4 The prosecution’s story of Travis’s killing (which was only fully revealed in Martinez’s closing argument) fits the forensic evidence far less well than Jodi’s self-defense story. For example, the angle of the gunshot would have required Jodi to engage in amazing contortions to make it in the circumstances the state alleged. One journalist who followed the trial closely described this to me as “absurd” and couldn’t believe two juries bought it. The prosecution story also involved several other absurdities (such as Jodi waiting many hours before attacking, then preferring a knife to a gun to despatch a man who was a trained fighter of more than half again her weight and strength) and perhaps an impossibility (blood flow into the nose and mouth from a wound to the vena cava).
Regrettably, it won’t surprise me at all if the CoA panel takes advantage of the overwhelming-evidence escape route if it exists — I can’t tell about that without reading the case law — after first making a lot of pious but useless remarks about prosecutorial misconduct.
Thanks, Alan. I have often said that Jodi may have been her own worst enemy in many of these situations as we have agreed that she was not in her right mind. The other situations seem to be the perfect storm of “bad luck”.. i.e. nobody coming forward to state that they witnessed Jodi and her sister at the monatery at the time of the robbery which leads to the Jodi robbed her own house talk. This is aside from the fact that the Yreka police NEVER had her as a suspect. The next issue is the handful of phone calls that Travis made to Jodi during her trip while her phone was dead instead of actual texts which would have been backed up and retrievable for trial. This is the main reason she detoured from her trip to Ryan and went to Mesa in the first place. This list just goes on and also includes the absolute lack of ear and eye witnesses to Travis’ fits of anger and then abuse as well as Jodi’s reluctance to “put him on paper” as we say in the US which is legal slang for an OOP(order of protection) or RO(restraining order).
I will agree with you that these justices would seem to be looking for something unbelievably egregious which seems to be what the state of AZ has looked for in the other reversals on record. I got the impression from those proceedings that they were looking for that very threshold and that all of his bad behavior, at the very worst, leads to him being disbarred.
I have also believed that the jury as well as the public at large would have needed to see a visual recreation of Jodi’s account along with the actual case facts. You and I discussed this when we mentioned the bathroom sink crime scene photos and applied Jodi’s testimony to those pictures. This fight occurred in two parts and the first part was very likely going to be another beating that Jodi absolutely was trying to avoid simply for dropping a $200 camera. The gunshot wound and then Travis’ shock and pause at the mirror and then his “I’m going to kill you bitch”mentality is what then lead to the deadly conclusion.
I will continue to say that JM would never have gotten away with this in my area of the country but, as we know, AZ seems to be in a class by itself.
By “the men” in #3 I of course mean psychologists Samuels and Geffner — not Nurmi, whose book essentially says she was guilty as charged, just not with a week’s premeditation.
There was “overwhelming evidence” that Travis was killed. Period. It was NOT First degree premeditated murder, it was self defense. Something that is NOT a crime!!! Period. This is a huge distinction in the “overwhelming evidence” that I don’t think has been emphasized to the appellate court or at least I didn’t hear that during the arguments. ALL of Martinez’s misconduct including BRADY violations were aimed at getting a First Degree Murder conviction and distracting the jury from the real evidence of SELF DEFENSE. He knew that there was a possibility that the jury could believe the self defense and acquit her. She killed Travis in self defense and she was denied a fair opportunity to prove that and as a consequence she was unfairly convicted of First degree murder which carries of course a death penalty or Life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. That’s the REASON to overturn this verdict.
Jodi Arias is due a FAIR TRIAL. Overturning this egregious verdict is NOT a punishment of the idiot prosecutor, it’s giving the defendant a constitutionally required fair trial !! You know, your constitutional right to a fair trial…something Jodi Arias was denied throughout by the ongoing misconduct of the prosecution.
I agree completely and I don’t think I’ve ever heard it said better.
I know the court of appeals emphasized that they are not in the business of punishing ill behaved prosecutors by acquitting defendants. They are, however, in the business of administering justice and remedying miscarriages of justice such as Jodi Arias experienced. She deserves compensation for the damage done her by the agreed prosecutorial misconduct. This could take the form of a retrial, although there is nothing to stop the next prosecutor from doing the same or worse to her. It could also take the form of a change of charge to Murder II or manslaughter or some other sort of post-conviction relief.
“There was “overwhelming evidence” that Travis was killed. Period.”
Exactly, that pretty much nails it. Everything beyond that is just inside the sad excuses for brains of either (or all of it) simple-minded, hateful/primitive/biased fork swingers with an attention span of a piece of wood, the decency of a Spanish inquisitor and on the evolutionary level of people from that dark age, frustrated about their own boring and fucked up lives, so they need to find comfort in wishing and watching others go a miserable path in life as well, deserved or not deserved is irrelevant to these low lifes on Neanderthaler level.
Most here know by now I guess, I’m totally new to this whole True Crime bs since last December, Jodi is the first case I ever cared for due to coincidence and its obvious major injustice in a trial not even remotely following the law, and frankly I meanwhile have to say the great majority of people who follow and are interested in this modern witch spectacles which are directly comparable to the purpose that was fulfilled by Coliseum events in old Rome with the same pathetic audience today, are the most disgusting human beings you can think of. Shallow and hateful morons. You can see that everywhere, for instance when you read the comments on VinniePooh’s Court TV Facebook page about this recent Ezra McCandless case, you can just shake your head about these hateful, frustrated, primitive and bloodthirsty knuckle draggers and the disgusting, uneducated and respectless venom they spew, respectless regarding life and people as a whole, independent if she is guilty or not, which btw just like in Jodi’s case nobody really knows despite her conviction with a whole lot of 3 hours deliberation after a 3 week trial…
It’s “amazing” with what kind of trash us decent and well educated people have to share a species and this planet.
Dawkins is right when he says that we are not all on the same evolutionary level, intelligence wise not anyway. It’s so damn obvious but also very sad to see that and its implications when the majority mind- and evolutionary wise never got beyond the darg ages.
True Crime scene = mostly a cess pool of worthless people…my quintessence so far.
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“I also do not remember him trying to use Jodi’s initial plea offer of manslaughter against her while she was pro se (without counsel in US legal talk) before Nurmi finally took over the case.”
Maybe Martinez did not want to alert or remind the jury early on that Jodi could only be guilty of manslaughter (less than Murder II). Even though the lesser included charges (Murder II and manslaughter) were included as conviction options for them.
“I would have expected an ADA to take that offer as an admission of some sort of guilt? IF overwhelming evidence existed, why would he be concerned about an acquittal?? I have not heard many, if any, people ask JM why he would have been worried about this. Thoughts?”
With the national prominence this case drew, I think Martinez would consider anything less than a Murder II conviction a victory. I think he was concerned about acquittal because he knew he had been abusive with witnesses (including Jodi) and was just guessing on a lot of his accusations. He might have been worried that the jury would see his behavior as evidence of insecurity regarding his theories of what happened on the night in question. The jury might see through all the assertions he pushed as facts and have a reasonable doubt as to his theories of what she actually did.
Edit to above:
” I think Martinez would NOT consider anything less than a Murder II conviction a victory. …”
Frank, you and others have worried about the striking of Appendix 29 of the appeal brief. This is just a transcript of an interview Martinez gave after both trials were over and his book was published. In it, among other things, he admitted that he raised his voice and interrupted Jodi because he feared otherwise she’d be acquitted, so that’s why the defense wanted it in. But because it wasn’t in any way part of the trial, the court probably has good grounds to strike it. And I think it will have been a joint decision, though decisions of the panel are announced under the female judge’s name.
Yeah, that is true, I know that.
Still, although this book was written after the trial, it WILL affect a possible retrial in a big way, for instance but not only regarding impartial jurors, if it is even possible to find one at all – and it shows the general motive and modus operandi of that disgusting gnome with not an ounce of integrity in his tiny bones.
That is relevant and important imho, also regarding the trial despite the fact it was published after the trial. BUT written during it btw, even during times paid by tax payers and partly in the prosecution offices as well using infrastructure there, all in collaboration with that painted/pimped up but ugly desperate housewife type “trial blogger” that also played a role in other misconduct, like researching jurors, releasing names and whatnot.
But what I was wondering even more about is the strange way this was handled. I summarize it so you can see what I mean (based on recordings in the appeal pdf file – I of course can’t know about things that were, maybe by error, not recorded):
1.) Motion by the state to strike almost all appendices (inclduing 29) but two
2.) Denied by the appeal court
3.) Motion by the state to reconsider 2.)
4.) Denied by the court and initial decision confirmed
That’s usually it in law, right? There is no infinite amount of attempts to get through with something. But now this happens:
5.) Appendix 29 makes *poof*
Totally out of the blue, no motion, no nothing in advance, andf contradicts two prior decisions by the court since app. 29 was part of the intial motion(s).
That is strange right?
The only strange part of that story is if there was no new motion to strike #29.
Otherwise, the state gave a general reason to exclude all but two of the appendices, as violating a rule about what can be in an appendix versus the text. That one I’ve read. The court refused, the state moved for reconsideration (I haven’t read that motion), and the court refused again.
Then the court struck #29 for a different, specific reason applying only to #29, possibly what I said before about its relating to post-trial events. Why there was no state motion citing this specific reason, I don’t know; perhaps it was already mentioned in the original motion. But the latest decision is not contradictory. Different reasons are involved.
Nope, I’m sorry, you are not right here Alan and/or did not read precisely. 🙂
This is of course contradictory because of the simple fact that NO other reasons where given – no motion, no reasons, no nothing – as I said, totally out of the blue with nothing to support it (according to what was recorded in the file and what is in the 2 initial motions).
It is very strange, not onyl the missing motion.
It is very strange, not only BECAUSE OF the missing motion.
Troy Hayden is going to be on Fox and Friends (Fox TV network morning show) today at 5:20 am Phoenix time, 8:20 Eastern time, 2:20 European time where I am, to discuss the appellate situation. I do not have access to this station but would greatly appreciate a recording of his appearance if anyone feels is able and willing to make one.
https://www.facebook.com/TroyHaydenFox10/?__tn__=%2CdkCH-R-R&eid=ARCjfnksLN2WisGXw-rB1IBZaxKJ8iYo3-BltyfwU7LvO4YNaVi2Tpa4Of3PuOJLLXQlmQ1HdCTekSDm&hc_ref=ARRh8Brur8JR3lPc4520BlNFT6rTGhWF2lr-NVEFya6SWx1yMz8f5QPE_cnV773fD74&fref=nf&hc_location=group
Sorry, Fox *News* TV channel.
Never mind, I found a way to watch it online. Nothing of real interest except that Hayden endorses the verdict, departing from the objectivity we expect of real reporters.
Ha, Hayden a “real reporter” (or even journalist), I even cannot really believe that he is so delusional and ignorant to think that about himself.
Just today, in George’s group on Facebook, I’ve posted this about him:
Troy Hayden, and I’m sad this is not my quote/idea, is “not more than a Ron Burgundy from Phoenix/Fox 10” – the guy who is responsible for that quote, actually an assertion, was blocked by him on Twitter lol so he does not even have humor. He is not a journalist at all, just a good-looking talking head I’m afraid. Kiefer however is, a serious one, although I do not agree with his opinion about Jodi in the aftermath (and yes George, he did say some “stupid” things on Twitter about her after the trial).
Alan, here is a clip of when Hayden was on Fox and Friends.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/jodi-arias-prosecutor-faces-misconduct-allegations/vi-AAIlORp
He was also interviewed by Bill Hemmer and was asked if there would be any more interviews. His answer was that his last interview with Jodi on the day of the verdict was set up by Arpaio and he so that they caught her by surprise in the tunnel. He said that Jodi had felt like she was raped by them, so there wouldn’t be any more. Rather a candid answer.
Thanks, Carol.
Hi Carol,
This is somewhat confusing as I was under the impression that Jodi gave Hayden the exclusive post-conviction interview in the basement of the courthouse. His questions, at that time, seemed to be very soft and “gentle” for lack of a better word and he thanks her profusely for allowing him this interview and he emphasizes how much this would help his career. I have always wondered when he changed his way of thinking on this case???
Hi Lance,
I noticed the same soft tone during this interview from both Hemmer and Hayden. I believe the tunnel runs from the basement of the courthouse to the jail across the street.
Hemmer listed off all the accusations of gross misbehaviour by Martinez, and the fact that Swat had to escort the jury and defence team. If I were part of that media mob, I would be feeling pretty guilty in my part of that fiasco that Jodi got instead of a fair trial, and I think that might have been going through their minds.
I tried to find this interview for Alan, but couldn’t find it. I’m sure that Jodi was in a state of shock at the time, so consent if given would have been questionable. Arpaio should have kept the press away, but instead he seemed to assist them. I seem to remember that he let Nancy Disgrace into the jail where Jodi had been staying.
Carol,
This is the interview we were discussing. It is the Raw footage of her speaking with Hayden after her guilty verdict in the basement of the courthouse. She is indeed in shock and very emotional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFIfLA0LmbM
It’a amazing how stubborn this gnome species is. They are on a determined mission to spread gnome sex and other caricatures of life into the society. 🙂
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-investigations/2019/10/18/maricopa-county-prosecutor-juan-martinez-faces-new-misconduct-complaint/4014793002/
This has nothing to do with the current events but this is a coincidental finding while looking for recent videos about the appeal:
I never saw this interview before (it was uploaded just 2 days ago despite being from 2013), just another interview with a woman that was obviously recorded at the very same day and place (I believe that was one day before the verdict in 2013), since Jodi is styled and looks exactly the same here, as well as the room setup is identical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETRXEUNOB1c
Frank, do you have a link to the two “initial motions “? I vaguely seem to remember some specific objection to #29 in Crist’s original motion to strike all but two appendices.
I believe I have it somewhere but I need to look that up more thoroughly when I have some time.
For the moment I have only the vague but still telling entries/timeline from the pdf record file:
https://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/aacc/appella/1CA/CR/CR150302.PDF
What I see on this list is that on 2/21, in denying the motion to strike the 27 appendices, Judge Thumma also deferred to the present panel on whether to “take judicial notice” of #29. So evidently the panel recently decided this residual question and struck #29.
Someone else can perhaps explain the issue of judicial notice. I believe it concerns whether an appellate court can consider facts not in the trial record.
You are right.
I eihter overread that or rather likely I did not understand the second part/gave it no relevance whatsoever.
I still do not really understand what that actually means so that was the case back then as well I guess.
It did not and still does not sound to me like it addressed a possible removal of that appendix. “Judical notice”? What and why even? It was already part of the appeal brief and was not struck following the motion. Law people lol…
Martinez Faces New Sexual Harassment Complaint
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/jodi-arias-prosecutor-faces-new-sexual-harassment-complaint/
No platform for Nancy DisGrace I guess? – hence my 2 links to her interviews were deleted?! 🙂
I rather found them self-disqualifying and self-degrading (if that is possible at all anymore in her case) so it was rather posted for that reason, not to spread her hateful, dishonest and unreasonable filth.
If these judges can’t get past the “overwhelming evidence” part of this they most likely will not overturn this egregious verdict sadly. If in their minds it’s a forgone conclusion that there’s “overwhelming evidence” of Jodi premeditating the “murder” of TA they are going to most likely refuse to overturn. However if they would think critically about this and if they understand that Jodi’s argument was self defense and she was indeed prevented from providing evidence of that due to idiot prosecutor’s continual misconduct which was pretty much admitted to in the appellate hearing then they should conclude correctly that there could have been a different outcome if Jodi had received a fair trial. One can only hope….
The Brady violations should have been an automatic overturn….the state not turning over evidence to the defense until it was discovered after her conviction ( I believe this is the correct timeline if someone goes back to the relevant time and look at that..I have no access to posts from years ago which were detailed and specific) is paramount and should have been front and center in the appeals IMO…facts should matter
If I remember correctly (and please correct me if I’m wrong) at least one of the violations had to do with computer evidence that was withheld that showed that TA visited numerous porn sites etc which was part of Jodi’s argument that he had issues with sexual deviance which played a part in his motives and anger against Jodi and his abuse of her….
I understand this is not the focus of the appeals but my thought is it should have been vigorously pursued…Brady violations are automatic overturns for a new trial… just my thoughts
Yes, you are right.
The porn evidence, and they found child porn as well btw according to testimony in the retrial (and you don’t get child porn on legal porn sites or from their malware, it’s illegal and they won’t harm/risk their very profitable business with legal porn ever – no, you have to actively look for it in the “darker” places of the net, and that is what Pedo bear did) was actively hidden/lied about in the first trial with the evil intent to make Jodi appear as the “liar” so real evidence is not needed anymore for a shallow jury of simpletons, and to kill Jodi of course, by both the disgusting prosecutor and the outstanding disgusting so called victim family.
But that’s not all, there was more than just that hidden/tampered and lied about in the first trial, the list is so long I have no time for that atm being on vacation.
Cheers guys, let’s hope the appeal judges have at lesst some grip and decency, and come with a decision based on that and actual law, not based on politics in that reactionary wild west state.
Hi Bb,
There are many people on this thread that believe that if this trial had been fair indeed that Jodi would have very likely either been acquitted or at the very worst, allowed to accept a manslaughter plea which she had proposed during her very brief period as “pro se” before Nurmi was assigned. As I mentioned above, JM actually admits in subsequent interviews that he was very concerned that Jodi could very well be acquitted based on how the evidence was coming out. I have said that Jodi’s many “emotionally” based mistakes made her look bad which, I believe, is what likely brought her to her conclusion that she was guilty of real bad judgment and evidence tampering. This was absolutely rejected as the family wanted vengeance.
The sexual deviance issue has been a problem mainly because of what was allegedly destroyed by the forensic tech and the fact that the letter was rejected as being a forgery. The fact that she accuses him of being a pedophile during a heated argument was largely dismissed. I had felt that Jodi’s lack of ear/eye witnesses to Travis’s fits of anger and abuse was why the jury could not make the jump to the attack on the 8th because of a dropped camera. Several of us here have agreed that this fight occurred in two parts and they are separated by the gunshot wound to Travis’ eye. This was very likely going to be a fairly violent assault that Jodi absolutely wanted no part of due to the past history between the two. Jodi’s introduction of the gun which, in her thinking in addition to my own, would have given Travis pause about continuing the assault. Travis calls her bluff and she fires. The fact that she even hit him in the first place was remarkable enough, even with a .25 cal gun and no shooting practice. The escalation of the fight is proven by her memory of his intent to “fucking kill you bitch”.
Even with Jodi not telling the truth over the course of the next two years, I have privately felt that JM may have seen what we all see now and had to reshape the narrative as Jodi being a premeditative cold-blooded killer which is where all of the hair coloring, gas cans, and the robbery of her own grandparents home which just happened to involve the same caliber of gun YET with different bullets. Thoughts??
Hello Lance
I like to say facts are facts are facts…period. As I recall the evidence presented, TA’s computer disc was hidden from the defense before and during Jodi’s “trial” (really it was a WITCH HUNT.) It wasn’t discovered until the sentencing phase. IMO it was clearly tampered with evidence that constitutes a Brady Violation. Lying cops, possible altered time stamps on photos…after law enforcement was called to the scene of the killing TA’s computer was handled inappropriately while in custody of the law enforcement…..the list goes on….
Does anyone remember Debra Milke from Arizona? A death row inmate for over 25 years? Her case was overturned bc of a lying dirty cop. There are so many hard facts in this case that have been ignored IMO. The argument that idiot prosecutor was asking inappropriate questions repeatedly in front of the jury and prejudicing the jury….which is true and has been admitted as such to the appellate court…..is what you’re asking an appellate court to consider as the reason to overturn a verdict all in the context (FALSE context) that there’s “overwhelming evidence” of Jodi’s guilt of First degree murder. Where’s the argument that evidence was withheld from the defense? Brady Violations… Evidence that would help provide more credibility to Jodi’s argument of self defense?? The meat of the case is rotting away for the side dishes. Under the circumstances the appellate court is going to have a very hard time overturning the verdict without something more substantial to justify it…IMO. Brady Violations are automatic overturns bc the Defendant was denied opportunity to present a full defense.
All IMO
Hi Bb,
the topics that were discussed during the appeal hearing are by far not all the judges will consider.
Of course given the actually do their damn job and all this was not just a PR/circus show for the public and a political decision has already long been rendered before it even started, as opposed to a decision of justice.
The appeal brief has like 500 or 900 pages, I can’t remember without looking it up, but I’ve read it all and it was several hundred.
The issues you’ve mentioned are all part of it and the description of the misconduct/etc. as a whole.
The hearing has just the purpose to discuss some specifics, as far as it is not only the aforementioned PR show to pretend there is a justice system.
To question this is not unjustified and far-fetched, especially in this rotten state of Az where such a criminalwwitch hunt trial can happen without any consequences, with a remarkable biased and/or incompetent judge, a rotten to the core prosecutor (for 30 years already), his likewise rotten boss and an also any integrity lacking governor who promotes said boss evev to suprême court. I mean there’s something deeply rotten in the state of AZ, btw even confirmed by a Harvard study (corruption, justice system, etc.)
Agreed with that…
Hi Bb,
I could not agree more. Facts are indeed facts! The Brady violations aspect is very fascinating. I remember the evidence gathering part of this case was skewered relentlessly by this site about the time I got here. I am sure Frank can shed light on the computer forensics part of this. I always thought and have seen in a lot of the ID, Dateline and 48 hours shows in the past, that computer images are never totally lost UNTIL the disk drive is WIPED or REMOVED entirely. If either of those occurred in this case, that would be an obvious Brady issue. I never really knew the extent to which the alleged pedo images really existed. Many people had speculated that the Mormon church had pressured the police to eliminate these photos and avoid a much deeper investigation. This theory was discarded fairly quickly. Another question that I never heard answered was whether Jodi actually witnessed these images during any casual meetings with Travis while he was on his laptop. The only testimony is her catching him in his room with the picture as well as her recounting of an escalating argument in which she yelled at him that he was a pedophile. I don’t remember hearing what his reaction to that was??
I would like to ask your opinion on how Jodi counters the one central question in this case which is why we are here. How does Jodi illustrate Travis’s penchant for angry outbursts and fits of abusive violence that Travis was able to keep under wraps? These violent tendencies are why this case even exists.Many outsiders always seem to make a face at the suggestion that a guy would flip out over the dropping of a camera, albeit a $200 Nikon(If I recall correctly). A guy that this site was able to show was practically broke and had trouble repaying a loan that Deanna Tate gave him and worried about having enough gas money to get to OKC for that company junket when she tries to collect it.
Thoughts?
Hey Lance,
as late as in the retrial a HD drive suddenly appeared (from the so-called victim), I think it was obviously not the anyway manipulated internal notebook HD but an external drive. This drive had zero, not even low level format on it, this is less than they come with when you buy one/when they leave the factory.
It had absolutely nothing on it, that does not mean no data on file level but NOTHING. This computer forensic guy from the defense, I believe his name was Neumeister or similar, testified to this.
This can only happen with intent and when you use a degausser (or another strong (electro) magnetical source) and bring the drive very close to it, that erases a drive down to the lowest level with magentism. The police uses these devices to erase for instance interogation tapes.
That is very fishy in itself. Whatever was on that drive is lostr forever and it was done on purpose as it seems becasue you usually don’t carry a strong electro magnetic device with you and a drive “coincidentally” gets near it…
Also porn data and child porn data (NOT from trojans, actively searched stuff) was found on the internal notebook HD but only links/traces from browser data after loading porn sites of that kind, not much actual content files I think.
I mean this clueless and not so very bright nuthead used like 20-30 virus/malware scanners and cleaners AT THE SAME TIME (lol) on his notebook – did he ever have one basic IT class or did he just understand nothing from it. They all affect each other negatively and do a worse job than just one would do, especially the virus/malware scanners. It’s not just redundant, it’s worse than that, contraproductive for the job they are made for.
However, this also came up as late as in the retrial.
The state’s computer forensic from the second trial was an idiot of no match according to this testimony. Crass wrong and insecure wording – clearly no expert, he even said he had “build”, which means sticking stuff toghethe and not really buidling these days, some computers in his teens (which is something any moron can do and no expertise at all, much less regarding computer forensics). Aside from that he had only a ONE week computer forensic course in Florida lol.
A joke, and such an incomeptent guy is allowed to testify in capital cases and Nzurmi is too dubm to destroy him while Turtle boy destroyed real competent defense experts…Jodi made such a bad deal with that whale….
BTW, I think it is absolutely possble that this disgusting mor(m)on cult had influence on this trial and the police. As ridiculöou and a made-up fraud from start the absurd stuff is they call their belief, they money fraud scheme they run with tithing naive or dumb followers of that cult works, they have a shitload of money, are as a scam company like scientology for no reason even tax free and have a lot of influence and power because of that, not only but especiall in Utah and Az. You can’t rule that out that they were in for cover-up. They are even known for cover-ups of woman and child abuse within their cult, so it would be no surprise.
You mean Deanna Reid, do you? He also had to pay mortgage for the house he did not own or only for a small percentage yet, technically at least, the bank owned it 100 % though. It is beyond me how he ever got broke as far as not able to pay gas as the “successful business man” he was, who even had 3 or 4 roommates who paid rent. If you can’t afford a house don’t buy one, as simple as that, but it was all about pretense. Andwell, many idiots did that back then in the US, seduced by banks.
Yay, successful and stuff lol. These scam multi level marketing compnaies are are all pretense, very few make real money, some a bit, most nothing at all, but all pretend to be Elon Musk level, a freak show, I know that from own experience.
Thanks Frank. The browser data is what I had only heard about which is what made me ask that question. And yes, Deanna Reid is who I meant.. OOPS!
As we have come to know, the porn “evidence” was never really that helpful to Jodi other than showing that Travis had a private dark side which we all believe Jodi was able to shed light on in court. The attack itself was not related to Travis’s private thoughts. The attack was a result of his lack of impulse control and anger management. This guy flipped out over a dropped camera which is what the rest of the country has always had a hard time rationalizing.
Sure, this whole thing about sex and watching porn and stuff is mostly and “just” about giving credit to Jodi’s words, but that became a VERY important factor in this whole trial since Turtle Boy went with the “I have no evidence for anything whatsoever and make things up out of less than thin air BUT she is a pathological liar anyway so I don’t really need to answer questions”- strategy and fooled/played the shallow and simple-minded audience and jury with that.
And let’s not fool ourselves, the shallow and simple-minded morons have always a BIG majority within mankind.
However, no need for any evidence anymore at that point…and so it worked with zero evidence to almost murder Jodi.
I mean they had really a very standard almost boring sex life. Nothing special, spectacular or even dark about it other than the unbelievable pathetic hypocrisy while being in that disgusting fraud cult LDS.
Why was there even any hype and outrage about that topic? I spoke with Jodi about that.
I know the answer of course, that is typical for the US, and only for the US, while running for example the biggest porn industry on the planet the public handling of the most standard things regarding sex and stuff is always done with an extremely pathetic, prude and hypocritical attitude and approach.
All the hypocritical bigots in the US, the evangelists, mor(m)ons and bible thumpers of different sorts, etc. – we just dont know such attitude, hypocrisy and behaviour or people of that kind in Europe, it’s almost alien-liketo me/us lol. It always was when I lived in the US, as well as false gun and military glorification.
I’d exclude the perdophile issue here though. At least such desires that may or may have not been followed by real actions, the telephone call is 100 % proof for that since no mentally sane man would EVER and repeatedly refer to a 12 year old child and only to a 12 year old child.
That is sick beyond anything I’d be willing to ever accept and he was that kind of pathetic person, and that was not even his only issue from the very long list.
He flipped out about minor things all the time actually and cried like a pussy and/or went into a rage because of that, all fed by his extremely deep insecurity and the correlated overcompensating and countless other personality issues.
Just two examples of many is Jodi’s Facebook comment/joke regarding man boobs from the Anchorman movie where he went into a pitiful and sick jealousy rage calling her a whore and worse and when she forgot to take the pic he “signed” (as if anyone would give a fuck about his signature lol – well, Jodi certainly did care at that time though, being blind and delusional about him to no end).
However, the quintessence is, a rage about a new camera from a totally broke guy is really not far-fetched but Nurmit was too dumb and ignorant to drive that opportunity and pass play home.
Frank:
I never heard of any hard drives being degaussed in this case. Who told you that or do you have a cite for it?
I remember Jodi saying she had one (not Travis’) with pictures she took at the Monastery that “stopped working”.
Is that the HD you are talking about?
Hi Mike,
it’s part of Neumeister’s (or Newmeister?!), whatever his name was, the defense IT forensic expert, testimony in the RETRIAL.
I’d need to look up the day, really can’t remember but you will find it on YT. That is a drive from pedo bear.
The other drive from Jodi is a totally different thing but likewise stupid and ignorant from Nurmi once again. WHY in the fucking hell did they never send that drive to a recovery lab to get all the data that was (or probably still is) on it!? I don’t get that. It’s the obvious thing to do.
It’s just one of Nurmi’s countless forbearance though.
What an idiot with a really bad and lazy attitude, but his mental fintness is totally in line with his physical one…
Hi Lance
To answer your question about how Jodi proves TA’s violent outbursts….she can’t. She doesn’t need to in order to prove she was denied a fair trial. The state’s hiding, deleting, and altering of evidence is the way she gains a new trial and a fair chance at freedom. There are endless documented accounts of women being violently abused by men who outwardly appear “normal” and supposedly non-violent. Experts can be called to testify to the statistics on this. Men who abuse women are usually very expertise in hiding the abuse from the public. The bottom line is Jodi was denied a fair trial by the unethical tactics of the state prosecutors office with the help of certain law enforcement. I can’t say it enough: BRADY VIOLATIONS = OVERTURN and then finally a fair chance to prove it was Self Defense which is NOT A CRIME.
Just another thought on your question as well about how Jodi proves TA’s violent outbursts…there were also plenty of text messages (And transcribed phone calls)from TA that were abusive in nature toward Jodi…calling her really abusive names etc…if a juror were fair minded (which I don’t believe these jurors were to a certain extent) they would reflect on those outrageous statements by TA and ask themselves: is that what a “normal ” man calls a woman?? Is that how a Normal non-violent man treats a woman?? ANSWER: NO!!!! Now this doesn’t “prove” TA’s violent outbursts…you can’t really prove that without an eyewitness…but it certainly lends itself to one concluding that he had an anger problem..
My personal thought is that he may have been taking steroids…which are known to produce roid rage….I don’t know if there is any “proof” of that but people who explode with anger over seemingly innocuous things usually have a chemical imbalance in their system….
All IMO …
Right, no sane man would act like that over literally nothing, or really minor things. It’s obvious that the “impartial” jurors were all watching Nancy DisGrace/VinniePooh & Dr. “NoClue” Drew and plastic surgery victim JVM who ended up looking like MJ lol, and the rest of the disgusting pack, because otherwise they could not ever come to the decisions they’ve made. No way in my mind.
You need to be simple-minded enough to even watch DisGrace though.
And regarding the anabolic steroids, that was something I wrote Jodi in my very first letter to her in January 2019.
He looked flabby and almost fat asnd unfit like someone who takes steroids but does not enough workout according to the amount he takes, or simply has no cluehow to do that.
He looked like a typical steroid sponge.
Hi Bb,
I may have confused my question as being part of the appeal. I was trying to look forward to a retrial and how Jodi’s defense would be different/better than what Nurmi gave her. I believe, like everybody else here, that JM violated her rights to due process because of his fear of losing this case as well as the pressure from the Alexander family for “justice” or vengeance. Your point about the phone calls is what caught my eye and I have lamented on this site that the correspondence between Jodi and Travis while Jodi was on the road was limited to two phone calls which Jodi has stated was Travis “begging or cajoling” her to detour to Mesa because he had needs. I don’t remember how much time these calls were given in court but they would eliminate all of the premeditation angles the state had because HE WANTED HER THERE!!!! I had said previously that it was bad luck he didn’t text her these thoughts because those were retrievable just like all the other text evidence she did present. I would bet if they had been written, her narrative would have changed solely based on that. My concerns are based on the fact that Jodi has been so vilified that even when she has told the truth, she is called a liar! She was absolutely able to portray Travis as a sex-starved womanizer which even his own friends had admitted, although cryptically through jokes and innuendo. I think another question would arise out of this conversation. That question would be, can Jodi even get a fair trial period in the entire state of AZ? Has the entire AZ jury poll been tainted by the publicity etc of this case?
Lastly, I totally agree that Travis was a steroid user and that this use has been attributed to fits of anger and violence. That list is real long in this country. What I don’t know is how much of this was either ignored by Nurmi totally as not relevant or passively mentioned and ignored by the jury.
This also goes back to Frank and Mike’s point about the drive or drives. I thought it was two based on Jodi’s comments during her Hayden interview. The pictures on that drive would have done the same thing as the above example of the phone calls by showing that Jodi absolutely WAS NOT ROBBING HER OWN HOUSE of anything including a .25 gun.
Thoughts?
Agreed. Where there’s evidence that could show that the defendant is telling the truth…like the phone calls from TA on Jodi’s drive south in California and the photos from the trip her and her sister took that indicate that she wasn’t robbing her own house to steal a gun, the jury is supposed to give the defendant the benefit of the doubt at least on those points but in this case the jury didn’t….they steadfastly refused to apply the reasonable doubt standard in part no doubt because of all the pervasive prosecutorial misconduct, the perjury of prosecution witnesses, tampering of evidence, Brady Violations, and lack of a good robust defense that all served to taint the jury. They couldn’t get over their emotions and apply the law…and in the case of the phone calls where TA wanted Jodi to come over to Mesa that would pretty much destroy the premeditation theory…and if she didn’t rob her own house and steal a gun this again lends itself to destroying the premeditation theory so these are no small matters…but these were matters that were subject to the emotions of the jury under the undue influence of Idiot prosecutor… but the exculpatory evidence that was hidden from the defense is evidence the jury never saw or considered….that’s a hard cold fact…That’s why I like the hard cold facts of Brady Violations in an appeals process….you commit a Brady Violation and it’s over…you’re getting a new trial period…there’s no room for a tainted jury to mess it up….but then again you have to remember where you are…Arizona….the land of never ending stick your head in the sand ignoring the hard cold facts and continual injustice….even the appellate court judges can and do make decisions based on emotions and not the hard cold facts of the law….
All IMO…
I thought that appellate judges were supposed to be impartial and “unemotional” when it comes to case reviews. These judges cannot allow emotion to enter their deliberations if they are to be viewed as unbiased and fair. Arizona seems to have a win at all costs mentality as a state not just Maricopa although it seems Maricopa gets most of the drama cases.
Judges are just people with black robes on…look at Sergeant Schultz Judge Stephens…
“I know nothink I see nothink I hear nothink”
Guess what ? this Pathetic excuse for a judge will probably end up on an Appellate Court there in AZ someday…
Judges do have biases but they’re supposed to FOLLOW THE LAW…sometimes they just can’t get over themselves or their bias and many times judges start out as prosecutors so you see the system is not set up to seek the truth and justice you have to hog tie it down and force them to look at the truth
Judges many times are more concerned with their career aspirations than seeking true justice based on unadulterated FACTS
We can only hope that in Jodi’s case that these judges will lay aside their personal biases and judge based on only the FACTS
ALL IMO
Judge dismisses Joe Arpaio’s lawsuit against CNN, HuffPost, Rolling Stone
Arizona Republic News 🙂
This is for Bb & Frank
Both of you have great points ..
I couldn’t have said it better myself.. Bb & Frank your observation to
all the misconducts of Juan ROTTEN Martinez is very obvious …yet with that said I would add countless other misconducts throughout the trials (to many to mention)… The only thing I could say is hopefully the judges will absorb them all in & do the right thing & overturn this fraudulent conviction….when i say overturn I mean TURN IT OVER ONTO Juan ROTTEN Martinez’ Head…..you all know the old saying “WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND”
Hi everyone, it’s Vicky!! I haven’t posted in awhile but wanted to let y’all know I’m still here. Team Jodi! Hi Pandora!!! Hi R. Love!! So great to see familiar names here.
Absolutely Wonderful to see you Vicky!!!! Happy you are still among us!!!!
(((FREE JODI)))
Didn’t Jodi admit under oath that she killed Travis? I’m confused
Hi Alain,
Jodi admitted under oath that she killed Travis in self-defense. The prosecution was trying her for first degree premeditated murder mainly due to a lot of unrelated coincidences that occurred in the days before as well as the Alexander family’s desire to put Jodi on death row. The prosecution created a narrative that all of these unrelated events were actually a premeditated and calculated plan by Jodi to murder Travis. An example of the many factors that went against Jodi was the fact that Travis called Jodi twice during her trip. She was not even planning to see Travis after she had moved back to California although there was some talk about him visiting her in CA although many of us have a hard time believing he would have done that. Anyway, his two calls, which unfortunately, are not retrievable since they were voice calls and not texts, consisted of him begging and cajoling her to stop by his house on her way to Ryan Burns home in Utah. Travis was a sex-starved man who was maintaining a façade of a good Mormon man and he couldn’t get sex from any of the other Mormon women around him as they were serious about their faith. In other words, He invited her to the house!
I hope this helps!
FYI For all the Ole Timers here: Today is Journee’s Birthday. Just remembering what a dedicated and sweet friend she was to all of us. I miss her Great Pearls of Wisdom. Journee left us way too soon.
FREE JODI ARIAS ARIZONA!!!
Oh, it was a fucking weird day, R.
I so wanted to send her a message with my wishes and then reality… 🙁
She was a fantastic person. A beautiful caring soul. Every time she posted I was so eager to read and learn from her.
I am sad that she’s gone but at the same time feeling very blessed that we were friends and had the amazing opportunity to ‘pick’ her brains and share words of wisdom!
I still have her soup recipe and make it often to honor her!
She will never be forgotten. She came and left her mark in all of our lives!
I’m sure that she’s watching us and sending us her wisdom in the most unexpected ways!
RIP my dear friend Journee. Never forgotten.
I do remember Journee. Very involved on this site. It is so good that you remember her R.Love. I have wondered about a number of those that used to post here. I guess many have just moved on. It sure was a busy place for a long time. Especially throughout the trials. I hope something good comes for Jodi soon.
Well, two promising developments for Jodi happened recently: Martinez’s demotion from homicide to auto theft and the apparent consensus of the CoA panel that he committed lots of misconduct in her trials. The bar complaints against him that helped cause these results were partly funded by people on this site, through the GoFundMe account and otherwise.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2019/11/22/county-attorney-prepared-release-hundreds-pages-juan-martinez-sexual-harassment-investigation/4266560002/?fbclid=IwAR2C3Zure9NkmKUqZtVgxKSk5rTQXGvUnl-MJPIbA5bYWVVYXs8X6QQloY0
Oh nice, the rats are leaving the sinking ship or “drop it like it’s hot”, and the main/chief rat is even busy in the Supreme Court meanwhile..
That’s the finest progressive techno in my ears. 🙂
According to Jodi’s Twitter account, her family went to visit her recently. So glad she got to spend time with her family again!
Hey JD,
It’s good to hear that Jodi’s family has been able to make that trip although I KNOW they would much rather fly 2.5 hours to Phoenix and ride-share to Goodyear than drive nearly 16 hours(I had to look this up!!). If they did actually fly, great! I was making an assumption? Frank had given an update earlier this summer but said that Jodi wasn’t really saying much over the past 6-9 months.
Hey Lance! Whenever Jodi’s Twitter account tweets something important…I make sure I post it here.
Hi JD, I just saw this today (the Tweet seems to be from yesterday) and was going to post it here but you have beaten me to it.
However, my judgemenr regarding those who run her Twitter account still stands, they are lazy f…
45 comments and 42 of those are really despicable comments from haters, not just random stuff, really disgusting hateful and irrational crap, probably also because the decent people don’t want to have to discuss with these low life morons.
However, why not just kick this human trash, and I use the term human very loosely here, from this private account. I find it kind of annoying to have to scroll through this degenerated crap…
I agree Frank! Should just block anyone who makes negative comments.
Hey Alan
This article has another meaning to me. To me, this article sounds like the new DA feels that what has happened to JM with the demotion and now the release of these records about his misconduct which were also brought up in the briefs has been enough for them to “turn the page” on him and now move on. The fact that Jodi’s appeals and all the information and details that were contained in it were enough that the DA had to do something, hence the demotion to auto theft. They feel that he has been removed from the spotlight that created him in the first place. it also sounds like this is all they felt they needed to do and that all of his issues, while unethical and sordid, do not rise to the level of termination. What they have done is stuck him in a back room and turned the lights out on him. They may even privately hope that he may quit, who knows? I think this is as far as Maricopa is willing to go regardless of what else may come out. With all that said, I think Jodi and her attorneys should be very proud of what they have accomplished when it comes to him.
New post added.
Jodi — in the Land of Oz:
https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/dr-oz-jodi-in-the-land-of-oz-justice-for-jodi-arias
SJ
Team Jodi #WINNING <<<