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As far as I know, the Quran promises Islamic martyrs “72 virgins” after they die. These virgins (to all intents and purposes) are grown women.
Now, Mormons do it a little differently.
They seem to want to have sex with as many children as possible while they’re still alive. They see sex with children as some kind of “lifestyle choice” — similar to being Vegan — on their ultimate journey back to the promised land of “Planet Pedo.”
Right now, they’re preparing for the Mormon Apocalypse. Good luck with that. Keep me posted 
Mormons are a really fucked up bunch if the truth be known.
Think about Chris Hughes’ activities at Soldier Hollow Charter School… think about fat bastard “rock star” Dave Hall with his various Boy Scout-themed endeavors… even though both of them were relieved of their respective “duties” some time back now. Should we be surprised at that? Maybe not. Mormon pedo’s apparently go “where the action is” in order to satisfy their perverted cravings. Chris Hughes & Dave Hall are no exceptions.
Strange thing is, nobody on the dark side ever sees anything particular wrong with adults having sex with children. I guess that speaks volumes.
In response to TA’s well documents child porn urges, some of the clueless masses prefer to state that TA was “just an average guy.”
No he wasn’t.
Average guys are not sexually attracted to children. In reality, TA was far from average. In the cold light of day he was a low-life abusive piece of shit mother-fucker (in the literal sense), that got what was coming to him in no uncertain terms. Anyone stating otherwise should be tied to a tree and forced to listen to Justin Bieber for the next 50 years.
Leave your comments below and let me know how right I am.
Moving on…
Today @ 3pm CT is the planned execution time for Richard Glossip, which you may have read about recently in the media. And despite the late interjection of some heavyweight support — including Richard Branson, Sister Helen Prejean and a full Dr Phil episode covering Richard’s plight — it hasn’t (as yet) made any difference. Clueless bitch & Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin is still digging her heels in and refuses to budge on her BS decision to deny a 60-day stay. This is an innocent guy sentenced to death ffs.
Richard Glossip was convicted of murder for the 1977 death of motel owner Barry Van Treese, though Glossip wasn’t the actual killer. The man who bludgeoned Van Treese to death, Justin Sneed, testified that Glossip hired him for the murder. But jurors weren’t presented with evidence that Sneed gave contradictory accounts to police about what happened.
Click here for further info @ RichardeGlossip.com
Unfortunately, sentencing innocent people to death – even when they’re innocent – seems to have become a national pastime in the US.
Let’s just hope for a late miracle for Richard.
12-noon CT UPDATE: Oklahoma court calls off execution of Richard Glossip [click for more info]
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My Reply To Kirk Nurmi’s BS
Survivor Day – June 4th – Celebrate The Day!
Sky Hughes – Email Exchange r.e. TA’s Pedo Antics (June 2010)
Chris Hughes – Liar & Pedo-Hugger (trial testimony from 2013)
TA’s Pedophile Letter Handwriting Comparison – (Part 2)
TA’s Pedophile Letter to Jodi Arias – (Part 1)
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Sister Helen Prejean retweeted
NYT Opinion @nytopinion 2h2 hours ago
Richard Glossip may be innocent of murder. Oklahoma is planning to kill him anyway today.
http://nyti.ms/1QFLjvc
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I signed the petition yesterday, but it looks like that governor is too stubborn to change her mind. 🙁
Heard on noon news they gave RG a two week stay. Governor Mary Fallen is big in this state cuz she supports the NRA of the Constitution of the Rights to Bear Arms. Hopefully this man will get a new trial and win his freedom. A hot shot lawyer has stepped up to the plate and is taking RG to his victory! Would hate to know Oklahoma did another blotched execution on a innocent man! :((
That monster, Mary Fallin is a serial killer, a sociopath, she has no conscience. How many innocent people has she murdered before and got away with, hundreds, I expect. I signed the petition too, Carol.
Mary Fallin should be in jail.
Mary Fallin is a heartless bitch. I hope her every day on this planet is full of disappointment. May she never smile again!
I also signed both petitions, called Mary Fallin’s office, left her a well mannered message (which was so hard for me because all I wanted to tell her is to GO FUCK HERSELF! LOL)
It’s such a relief that Richard Glossip got the 2 week stay. Now I hope his attorney’s do the best job ever in presenting the new evidence and finally getting this innocent man an overturn of his conviction. I don’t know if he he is set free OR if he gets a new trial. Any which way, Richard Glossip does NOT belong behind bars and definitely not on death row.
The goobernatorialists, have no mind, to change, as their extraditional permission was based upon, the recanted testimonies of the three stooges, conspiracy, to conceal exculpatory evidence; known, at the gitgo, by, the ME, the defective detective, and, the spastic, hypnonauseating, prostitutor; all, of which imagined their fabrications at law, and, committed perjury, accordingly, then, when exposed, backpedaled, their soap opera, into, a subsequently, sworn, opposite, testimony,; requiring, a cessation of the soap opera, upon which their lies, at law, teetered; therefore, upon recant of their lies at law, the two governors, with, simplemindedness, aforethought, conspiratorially ignored, the repudiation of the three stooges, recant; to, rescind the interstate kidnapping, under color of law, as per the goobers, predetermined, guilt; of which, the spastic prostitutor, confessed, to his need to recant, his own fabricated, lies at law, and, of which, the governors,’ published, prejudice, imagined; the truth, of; the initial arrest; based upon the three stooges, conspiracy, and, was not, also, rescinded; which, never happened, due to the three million dollar, bribed, socalled, defense,’ failure, to submit, a motion to acquit, and, continued, thereby, an admittedly bogus prosecution, then, as if, no matter how many lies at law, these crooks, float, their lack of credibility, is, meaningless, there in, Wonderland, Arizona; wherein, prosecutions, rely upon perjuries, soap operas., and, hypnonauseating, carnival tricks, in lieu, of, actual evidence; especially, when prostitorial perjururies, are confessed to, without a bleat by the “officers,” of the court…. Did I not mention, a hundered times, that, there were four people, minimum, at the kill site, scene, as evidenced, by, the bigfoot, bootprint in wet blood; establishing the time element; Jodi, having dropped the camera, as alleged, means, she took the pictures, the Spaz, sleazed ahainst her; which, actually, proved her distance from, all three subjects, of which the pictures, proved; the distance to the camera…. the small, black sock, Travis, and, presumably, Jodi, taking the pictures; proving her innnocense; with, blatant disregard, that, 9of the three, besides, Travis, only, one, Sasquatch / bigfoot, was photographed, standing in wet imprintable, blood, andd, only bigfoot, had the horsepower to take down, Travis; one ninja, against the martial arts kickboxer, to, nearly, decapitate, him; while, Jodi, was far away enough, from, the bloody bootprint, and, had the photo to prove it… Ditto, the black sock person, leaving, only, Sasquatch, to have done the deed, and, stood in wet blood, to prove it… Why, if, he had no guilt, did he not, call, the Gestapo, to say, “hey, dudes, I’m stuck, here, in sticky blood..”.??? Edgrrr…..
Hey Edgrrr, happy to see your still on board with us! However, I still struggle to keep up with your train of thoughts. . . I know you heart is in the right place! 😉 FREE ((((((JODI))))))) ARIZONA
TWO WEEKS STAY!!!
Equal Justice USA @EJUSA 11m11 minutes ago
Unanimous decision: Appeals court grants Richard Glossip two week stay hours before execution http://link.kfor.com/1KgerH2 via @kfor #deathpenalty
That’s a very welcome start. So happy to hear this. 🙂
When I read about the stay, I was running around in my house cheering! ♥ ♥
Bravo!!!!! Wonderful news!
The Supreme beings, have to feather their nest, from, time to time, so as to appear, responsive, in lowering themselves to obeying their sworn oaths, whenever, they can stoop so low as to give a damned, about which, issues, they, in their regalness, will, condescend, enough, to, hear…. of course, seeing to it , that, process, is, always, due….. Edgrrr…
Thank God he has a stay of execution and thank God we will not be going through this with Jodi in a few years.
Richard GLossip’s case made me think a lot about Jodi. If she had been sentenced to death, I feel the Arizona governor and legal officials in 10-12 years would have shown the same lack of compassion and indifference to Jodi. They would have tried their best to execute her even if no woman had been executed since 1930 (if Shawna Forde or Wendi Andriano are not executed). I could feel my anxiety rising thinking what Richard Glossip must have been feeling. My anxiety would have been much, much worse if it was Jodi in that situation.
Praying for Jodi everyday!
I can’t even imagine how horrible it would have been for all of us.
I don’t even wanna think about it…..
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Coldcase. the same thoughts came to my mind too. It seems that all politicians (in the world) do not value human life as much as their careers.
Death penalty never brought back any dead person.
It’s well known that States that have the death penalty have increased crime compared to States that don’t.
The law should protect the innocent. Not provide loopholes to kill them.
All prosecutors, judges, detectives and in general anyone connected to law cases that have obstructed justice (misconduct, perjury, etc) to get a guilty verdict, should be severely punished with jailtime.
Maybe that way, innocent people will remain out of jail.
Free Richard Glossip. Free Jodi Arias.
Ditto Pandora!!! Ditto!
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Right, Dwight….. to put a lid on the perjuries of prosecutorial, perversions, to keep the lizards at law, covered…. so they can, lie, steal, and, perjure with, impunity,on to, their next victim…. Edgrrr…
I think she should be eligible for parole at some point. Susan Wright from Texas stabbed her husband 193 times, including in the eyeballs and buried him in the back yard She will be eligible for parole in 2016 after serving 20 years and this is after the jury didn’t believe her story that she just snapped. I think it should have been brought up that she had a clean record, no previous arrests etc. And as for the stalking charge, it is entirely possible that Travis was calling her to come over and be discreet at the same time, and so she was seen around his place. I can see how that could happen. Too many questions in this case not to give her a second chance. godspeed
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And, the three stooges, should have a hearing, as to, which, one, badgered, the other two, into, concealment of the exculpatory evidences, that, proved, Jodis,’ innocense; in particular, no gunpowder particulates in the combined blood handprint, proving, that, Jodi, did not, fire a gun; and, therefore, with other, related, perjurial antics at law; she, could not have, overpowered, Travis; a martial arts, kickboxer, fighting for his life….. especially, while the photos, prove her distance to the killers,’ bootprint, in wet blood; obviously, before, Jodi, it is alleged, dropped the camera…. Edgrrr…
What got me, jackie, is that there is no parole in place in Maricopa County, yet the talk at the time was, what was Judge SS going to decide! What a Farce!
JSS was a disgraceful and immoral judge that showed her fascism towards justice from start to end at Jodi’s trial.
If JSS was to ever get a medal, I think most appropriate one would be a gold plated ‘B’ – for biased.
Heather, I believe when they say there is no parole, they mean it as described by law: “Early release of a prisoner who is then subject to continued monitoring as well as compliance with certain terms and conditions for a specified period.” I think they mean there is no system in place for monitoring released prisoners but people can be released after serving some minimum time, such as 25 years.
Jackie, hi!
Her ‘clean’ record was brought up in court. Jodi was always a law abiding citizen.
As for the stalking bullshit? Come on, there was never any stalking! Travis wanted Jodi around – even if it was only to please his sexual needs. Jodi moved away. Travis kept on calling her… If she was a stalker, he would have taken out a restriction order on Jodi, he would have NOT answered her calls, not replied to her messages and certainly not e-mailed her.
All that ‘stalking’ mumbo jumbo was only an attempt by the prosecution to build a case against Jodi because they had NOTHING else on Jodi. Nothing! Jodi was never violent previous to that day. On the contrary, Travis was the violent cunt.
Jodi defended herself that day. If she hadn’t, Jodi would have been the one under ground. No doubt about it.
All the State of Arizona did was to give permission to abusers to continue being abusive (mentally & physically). They also ‘taught all abused & domestic violence victims a lesson’ : Lay down, take it and don’t even think about defending yourself! Most possibly if you do, next thing you know, you’ll be facing the death penalty.
SMFH.
Jodi did have a clean record going into the trial
So did Travis. But the difference between both families are the siblings. In each family Jodi and Travis were oldest siblings, meaning that the other siblings followed and looked up to Jodi and Travis.
The major difference are the siblings. Jodi’s siblings do not have criminal records compared to Travis’ siblings. That tells me that the Arias children are well mannered and live within the law. The Alexander children however are not well mannered and see to disregard any notion regarding the law which the first and foremost aspect is their complete lack of respect for basically anything. Lack of respect that is obviously present in Travis as well seeing how he treated Jodi and allowed her to be treated by others.
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oh sorry “Anonymous”, I meant to say, “NO premise, statements inaccurate, drawing logic from inaccurate comments”
oh sorry again “Anonymous”, I meant to say “No premise, statements inaccurate, Conjecture, “attempting to” draw logic from inaccurate comments”
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You can add an ‘m’ and the sentence still makes no sense. Even if I try my best to make sense of this jumbo, all I get is what does this sentence mean?
Your statements are not accurate about the alexander family, AND you make some wack generalizations about manners and being law abiding, contrasting Jodi’s and ta’s families. Seriously “anonymous” it’s incoherent AND inaccurate.
“The Alexander children however are not well mannered and see to disregard any notion regarding the law which the first and foremost aspect is their complete lack of respect for basically anything.
What is that supposed to mean ANYWAY?
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I added a “m” and put it in a grammar check and it said it didn’t make sense, so, what does it mean? Not the break the law part the “seem to disregard any notion regarding the law which the first and foremost aspect is their complete lake of respect for basically anything” What does that mean? Can you explain the disregard and regarding the first and foremost aspect part?
Yes, I also signed that petition yesterday for the HALT of the execution of Richard Glossip and hopefully a new trial. ..It asks for an optional comment and I put in a comment but I thought of a much better comment after I signed my info & pressed ENTER/SEND button. ..If any one feels like considering this as a comment if you sign the petition, it is yours to echo: “There is no greater crime in the USA that can possible be as terrible as the crime of one or more jurors convicting or overcharging an innocent person for that crime just because the prosecution needs a defendant’s death to (incorrectly) MAKE AMERICA SAFE FOR DEMOCRACY. ..Anyone who has not yet signed, feel free to use or modify my comment. ……
Great comment WLOPEZ!
((((WLOPEZ)))) ♥
There are those who believe there is something wrong with someone who, upon discovering that the person they love has severe emotional problems, doesn’t just run away. That’s probably because for them deserting someone they claim to love would be extremely easy; that, at least, is what they consider healthy behavior and they cannot envision someone actually wanting to help. These people I consider extremely shallow but I’m not surprised since shallow thinking has been the consistent hallmark of their entire approach to this case. But, of course, shallow people are too shallow to know they’re shallow.
Yes Justus, they think there must be something wrong with us for wanting to help, words fail me.
Had a conversation with one of them, all she had on her mind was that I must have been abused, interspersed with the usual insults, telling me she wanted to understand about Jodi’s case, yet avoided speaking about relevant facts.
Such people are pure headache material.
Yes, these people go daily to a Facebook page that is devoted entirely to bullying, berating and belittling other people and then claim we have issues. Go figure.
This reminds me of certain people……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhZ0TKdgJGg
If I am called weird, crazy and it is stated that ‘something must really be wrong with me’ for standing by a friend, for standing by my believes, for caring for a friend , then I wear those names proudly!
“I’d rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.” – Kurt Cobain
“Being honest might not get you a lot of friends, but it will always get you the right ones.” – John Lennon
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it’s time to pause and reflect.” – Mark Twain
“I don’t want to be among the popular crowd; I want to be among the ones that have the guts to speak their minds” – Pandora
“I don’t want to be among the popular crowd; I want to be among the ones that have the guts to speak their minds” – Pandora . . .♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Yes, Justus, if I live to be 100 I will never understand what makes people like this. I tried having a conversation with one of them, I might as well have talked to the wall, all she was concerned about was that I must have been abused! Said she wanted to understand the case, told me I knew more about it than she did, but that Jodi was guilty anyway.
She avoided saying anything about the relevant facts I spoke about, instead diverting by comparing Britain’s justice system to the US, interspersed with the usual snide insults. Such people want and need her to be guilty, they’re headache material, beyond help.
” But, of course, shallow people are too shallow to know they’re shallow.”
Ha! Couldn’t have said it better myself!
First thing most people learn in life is not to desert a person in need. Then they learn: don’t kick a fallen man. Nobody is perfect. Nobody is a saint. We all have many flaws; some cute, some not so cute… we learn to live and love our friends’ and families’ flaws.
True friendship and true love for someone is shown when they mostly need your support and loyalty. Betraying them in a time of need only goes to show someone’s true colors.
I spent 16 years of my life standing by a completely broken person I loved, always thinking I could somehow help. But unfortunately it seems I couldn’t….
And had that person not turned completely against me and tried to actually destroy me, and hurt me and my family,I would still be there.
So, no – you don’t run away. You stay and you fight, till you are literally drained.
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Dwight, Sneed was nineteen and facing the death penalty himself unless he implicated Glossip. He wrote a letter to his daughter years later expressing his regret for doing so.
C.Carol, I don’t think I would ever point a finger to an innocent person to save my own skin… Sneed not only destroyed Glossip’s life but he also destroyed his family & friend’s lives too…
I hope Sneed has an ounce of conscience and that conscience keeps him wide awake every night for the horrible thing he has done. Sneed shouldn’t have written a letter to his daughter. He should have addressed the supreme court. Regret is not enough if we don’t take actions to undo a wrong we have done. Sneed murdered an innocent man and he is murdering another innocent person by not speaking up…
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not accurate
You just can’t say,not accurate without explaining which parts you think are not accurate.
sure I can, this is more full on yacking, ppl didn’t collapse unless you consider collapsing being bought out for 600+ million
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Nothing in that opinion piece has a comment from the Attorney General. You might just read the reacting comments below the piece on how they ridicule the article and the writer. It’s par for you.
why doesn’t everyone start call themselves “Anonymous”?
ppl didn’t die in ’08, among other erroneousness
“Pre-Paid Legal Services, Inc. went from being traded on the New York Stock Exchange back to a private company in 2011 when it was acquired by MidOcean Partners for $650 Million and subsequently changed its name to LegalShield”
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PPl was cleared by the SEC and FTC in 2011. They were never charged as a ponzi, no matter who attempted to label them. They operate the same exact way to this day. The couldn’t be charged for pozi because they payed their investors with cash flow from sales as opposed to paying investors with new investor money. That would have been a ponzi.
These articles are 2009 and only opinions, check out the FTC rulings in 2011. Plus you said PPL went under in ’08, not accurate.
how ’bout a response for my comment to dwight on the last page where I commented “not accurate” to dwight’s comment:
“Obviously Jodi was covered with blood because of the blood found by the rental car attendant. Do you really think that she would in broad daylight covered with blood change the tag on her car? If so where was the blood at on the plate itself?
Once again “NOT ACCURATE”
Hi Johnm ! 🙂 I was under the impression that no trace of blood anywhere on or in that car!? There was a Kool aide stain on seat. Other than that… zipp , notta
that’s right pam, I appreciate you stating it. kool aid, NOT blood.
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You said Jodi was covered in blood, not me, and not true
Greetings all. Has anyone seen or visited Jodi since she was taken away to Perryville?
Not guessing or pretending to know all is well, but actually seeing her from out side the barb wire fence?
Last heard it was some 120 degrees in the shade and swamp coolers do not work very well in that kind of heat. So my second questions are, do I send her money to her Prison Account and hope the TA family don’t steal it as restitution payment, or do I put in in the Trust Fund in hopes of paying for a lawyer, fees and paperwork? Has anyone forwarded the fact sheets of the case to a higher authority?
Our number one concern is the Health, Safety and Welfare of Jodi. There is so much wrong with what happened, it boggles the mind. So much court corruption and prosecutor lies and no one see’s the facts or attempt’s to it or stop it. Self Defense is not a crime and Jodi did what she had to do to survive.
We must not forget Jodi at time ticks by and days turn into weeks and months and years. The fight for Freedom is one that never ends. Regards to All and Miss Jodi. Thank you for listening. MP
MP hi!
Yes, Jodi has had visitors. Actually all her visiting days up to the end of the year are almost booked.
Heat anywhere is heat. Of course swamp coolers are not equivalent to air conditioning but they are absolutely better than nothing, right?
The Alexanders can’t get their paws on the appellate fund. That money goes directly for one purpose only: hiring an appeal attorney.
As for her prison account (books), I’m not sure if the Alexanders get anything from that money. It’s best you write to Jodi and ask her yourself. She’ll inform you about that.
I totally agree with you: SELF DEFENSE IS NOT A CRIME! Hopefully, there will be a day that Jodi’s conviction will be overturned once the appeals are heard and read by the appeals court. There’s no doubt about it! We just have to be patient until that glorious day comes.
Jodi is fine 🙂 She is a strong woman, mentally and emotionally. She is healthy (thank God) and has had many visitors. She is loved and receives tons of mail 🙂
If I were you, I’d donate to her Appellate Fund. That’s where she needs it the most.
MP,
Last heard that Jodi was doing O.K. O.K. is equal to as well as can be expected, but good. There have been letters and stories of visits out there that have confirmed Jodi is fine.
If you want to send money for Jodi you might want to send it to the appellate fund. Jodi’s day to day financial needs are limited and being met. If, for some reason Jodi needs day to day things we’ll hear about it.
Jodi filed for an appeal in May, so that is there, and Jodi has a state payed lawyer.
The appellate fund is for a deposit for a private attorney in case the state lawyer is unsuccessful, I’m sure you knew that already.
You might send Jodi a letter, maybe she will send one back. I’m sure Jodi is swamped with mail, but she would surely appreciate your well wishes!
“Anyone stating otherwise should be tied to a tree and forced to listen to Justin Bieber for the next 50 years.”
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SJ!!!! ♥ Thank you for that! It’s true: that would be the absolute punishment! Torture, for sure!
Anyone stating ‘no foul play’ or turning a blind eye on matters that concern pedophile are truly disturbed and fucked up beyond any repair. No matter what the religion is. Of course, we’ve seen many pedo cases in the mormon religion as well as the Catholic religion (the vatican has covered many many cases of molestation).
Someone taking a sexual liking in a child is probably the most sickest human being ever.
What makes me more furious is that when people select (depending on the situation and the case) when pedophile is ok and when it’s not. Remember that idiot lawyer that was tweeting during Jodi’s case? He had made a tweet saying that Travis was looking at teen porn and that was fine to him.. And people applauded that fucking shithead for saying that! So, let’s refresh our memories: was it ok for Ariel Castro molesting those 3 girls? They were teens… why a different change of heart when it comes to travis and Ariel Castro? They both had the same urges and issues: child/ teen porn.
FYI: teen porn = thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen…. = children
Let’s not play favorites: pedophiles are pedophiles. No matter their status, their age, their approach. First step is admiring and craving children through magazines and porn sites, in the park, in your friends’ house… next step is being the creepy ‘uncle’ that always touches a child inappropriately pretending that it’s out of care…. last step is this ‘uncle’ paying visits to that child’s room in the middle of the night…
So pedophile is pedophile. Jodi was trying to stop the birth of a molester when it came to travis. Instead of thanking her for that, she got accused of lying… It just goes to show that people can’t think straight when it comes to Jodi. Their hatred has totally blinded them. 🙁
That idiot lawyer being Jeffrey Evan Gold who thinks that because they are tween sites, it makes everything better. 🙄
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Not too long ago I was all for the d/p….if proven…but the more I see and learn the less each day I know how wrong it is when the state can do all to MURDER and call it JUSTICE. If the d/p is good for the defendant then it,s good for all who railroad them…JUSTICE FOR ALL! Then we,ll see just how many want the d/p…not many. Oh Griz they won,t do their job….that,s funny cause in our societies one can be forced to do their DUTY or find another place to live. We all have a duty to do right ….ALWAYS. I know that JOPDI never wanted to take his life….but if SHE had not…?On that day t-dog got the d/p because he thought SHE would just take his abuse once more…WRONG. he WAS an ABUSER of the worst kind…..who wants to harm children and speaks of it as the norm…in the military We do bring harm to children but not because it brings us joy….war is not good….but imagine if good folks do nothing as evil takes over. All nations have a d/p…get pulled over an SHOT…as the cop always says…I feared for my life…by that rule most of us at 50 would have a few on our belts…I am thankful i never had to do such…but if push comes to shove I,ll do what it takes to SURVIVE, As for u$e n hi$ minion…hall…..I would say that .25 came as a loaner from dave hall…my does he yap on how t-dog would never own a gun and then talls the world t-dog loved …GUNS. In Can . We give away .25,s they are that cheap and junkie as in free for all Az. and their non-gun laws…. And just why oh why do the haters not talk of the 185 lb. pedo in the bathroom…..who said to a 27 yr, old ..You sound like a…….!How very sick is that. Sooner then later they will have to own his evil…the t-dog cult.
P.S. next time there,s a post don,t go so easy on t-dog….he likes it ….rough.
Im thinking there should be a different system other than jury’s. I received the letter more than once that I’d been summoned to jury duty. I dont do well with this. Not only do I suffer lost wages a deputies will come after me ! I was a alternate on a case where they had a boy incarcerated for 8 years waiting gor him to turn 18 so they could tried as an adult. The boy was the outside look out for a home robbery. One older boy did freak and shot and killed old man that lived there. Anyways the courts was wanting to give the preteen the same charge as the one that was in the house and did shot/kill the old man. The judge ended up yelling at me saying it was the law that even though the kid was not even in the house much less had a gun or didnt shot anybody he will receive the same charge! I was told by judge to stand on streer corner and picket if I didnt like the law. I told him no, I will not! Then he goes on to tell me how this was a privilege and my civic duty. The states attorney was talking her stupid **** about cookies and kool-aid and askef me if I would vote guilty. I just looked at her thinking WTF are you even talking about then she made the mistake of sayn to me.,. Whats wrong the cat got your tongue?!!! In a loud clear voice so all could hear me I ask her.. are we all not adults here? If you are going to talk to me drop the cookie/kool-aid stupid noise. The whole room full of people busted into laughter and agreed with me. Of course I was dismissed! There was a man there thats name was called to return the next day. He screamed so loud and threw himself on the floor. When he came up back on his feet he was mad! He yelled he didnt care if the person was still holding a bloody knife they’re innocent!! The reason gor my long story is jury duties doesnt work. I guess it could “if” the people called upon wants to be there. It should be an option. So many people are made to be there or face jail time . K.. on another note, Ben Laden was expecting virgins but instead he got SEALS !!! ;)))
I just watched a documentary about a true crime that occurred back in 2000. It’s about the Helzer brothers – ‘faithful’ Mormons – that committed gruesome murders because God spoke to them and at least one of the brothers believed he was a Prophet of the Mormon religion.
They attended ‘survivor camps’ and it seems that they had brainwashed another woman – Dawn – that they were indeed God-sent. It took many weeks – by a cult expert – to deprogram Dawn from the bullshit they had fed her brain.
It just goes to show that Mormons are very much a cult of criminals under the pretext of being a religion that believes in God.
If you have the time, check out the documentary, it’s immensely educational and quite frankly, you will find a lot of information that is akin to what we’ve heard about Mormons during Jodi’s trial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWGjSTanJOE
Your thoughts?
“I’ve got nothing against God. It’s his fan club I can’t stand.”
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A police report is not evidence and cannot be used at trial on its own against a defendant. However, a report may be used at trial to assist the police officer when he testifies as to his recollection of the incident.
All the witness signed their own individual witness statements.Flores made choices to include what he wanted to include. Why would witnesses sign flores’ report.
It’s up to the attorneys to refute the report by calling the witnesses to testify. If they are not called to question, that has ZERO to do with perjury.
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another dose of an “Argument from ignorance”
Attorneys, who accept a three million dollar, bribe…… making sure to limit, and, conceal, from the appellate, issues, not, submitted, for, exoneration…. Edgrrr…
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There are statements when written under penalty of perjury (like a Declaration) can be considered perjury if they are found to contain lies…however, statements to police are not made “under oath” and are not considered perjury. It’s a technicality, really. That said, lying to police is a criminal offense that you can be charged with (giving false statements to police), obstruction of an investigation is also a charge you can receive if you lie to police, etc..but not perjury. They are different charges – perjury and giving false statements to police – but both nonetheless are criminal charges with criminal penalties.
The roommates going on tv and commenting is not the same as if they were under oath and on the witness stand, no. That being said, their commentary on tv can be used as evidence to either show they are being consistent in their story or not. It could be used in trial to show contradiction in their stories, but it can not be used for a charge of “perjury.”
I don’t believe that witnesses have to “sign off” on the police report (I could be wrong here but I don’t think they have to sign off on the police report) Now if a witness wrote out a “witness statement” then of course they would sign that…. The police report by the very fact that it is written by a police officer is assumed to be true. Unfortunately when you are dealing with police officers who have trouble with being honest, that police report may not always tell the truth.
In a similar manner you could reference what happened in the Debra Milke case which was just recently overturned after she spent more than two decades on death row.
Since we know that Det F went to the scene and destroyed possible exculpatory evidence right from the get go and we know that he admitted perjury in the Chronis Hearing when he testified that it was the medical examiner’s opinion that he was giving to the court when in fact it was not, but it was his own opinion he was giving, then it is possible that some may believe that his police report he filed in this case was not completely accurate…And this is where defendants who have access to expensive private defense attorneys can afford to hire great investigators and ferret out the truth on what the witnesses really saw or said…
Little Juanita grabbing a facebook screen is not unusual if a prosecutor thinks that a juror is misbehaving, etc…but what is unusual is his bullying tactics with witnesses and also with J17. This juror was not misbehaving but little Juanita didn’t like the way she was voting…too bad !!!!
The Brady violations, the prosecutorial misconduct, the admitted perjury, the false “no porno found on TA’s computer” testimony by state’s witnesses, the changing of the state’s theory from the gunshot first to the gunshot last, the bad interpretation by the state of AZ with regard to the felony murder statute, and on and on and on, will all come back to haunt this case when the appellate judges review this case….
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Well this is just it….The roommates were never called to the stand to answer questions about their conflicting stories…Why? They were what I would consider central witnesses (not to the murder itself) but to the timeline which is critical in every murder case. This is where the deficiencies of not having money enough to hire a private defense team factors in…If Jodi had the best representation these roommates would have been investigated thoroughly up one side and down another and would have been called as witnesses to show the inconsistencies in their statements (like when they did their laundry, etc..)
…so we agree that there are problems with the roommates statements and the timeline..and yes IMHO I believe that a coverup of the facts and evidence of this case took place from the get go..time will tell as the truth always comes out in the end…
The appellate court judges need to do their jobs and not play politics with this case…follow the law and do your jobs !!
Justice is supposed to be blind….with liberty and Justice for All !!
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He probably did monitor or had someone monitor the facebook pages of the jurors IMHO, however, the only juror that did not cooperate with his bullying tactics is J17 so he went after her full force to try to get her thrown off the jury…it didn’t work…
Yes, Sky did call into the prosecutor’s office to report things she felt were not true or inaccurate…but this was nothing that this was “illegal” for Sky to be doing however, it does show her bias in this case. A further explanation on that….Sky was not under a subpoena to testify during the trial prior to the evidentiary hearing (Day 18 of criminal trial) nor was she ever advised that she was listed as a witness or going to be called to testify and further she was never advised to avoid watching the trial or media..therefore she was not doing anything “illegal” but it did come out in this evidentiary hearing (which was not in front of the jury) when JW was questioning her that she was continually watching the trial and contacting the prosecutor’s office with information that she felt would help TA’s case. This IMHO reflected more on the prosecutor’s office in their dealings with potential witnesses in that they knew that Chris and Sky Hughes were listed as potential witnesses but did nothing to stop Sky Hughes from continuing to watch the trial and call with her commentary on things she thought were wrong….the prosecution knew better and should advised Sky that she was potentially going to be called by defense and was listed as a witness and that she should refrain from watching the trial and commenting to them about specifics regarding the trial due to the court’s order on that, but alas, she was never advised of such…it was the prosecution that acted unethically, improperly, and with misconduct in this matter regarding Sky Hughes (IMHO) They were procuring information in violation of a court order that they knew would include Chris and Sky Hughes as potential witnesses that were listed as such. It was only AFTER this evidentiary hearing that she was served a subpoena by defense as a possible witness in the trial and was ordered by JSS to refrain from any further discussion with anyone of her potential testimony and ordered that she discontinue watching the trial proceedings from that moment on…And of course JSS denied the defense motion for mistrial based in part on this matter with Sky Hughes… she didn’t even miss a beat in denying the motion…LOL!!!
I personally don’t believe a word she testified to in the evidentiary hearing…IMHO she came off very cagey and uncomfortable and when she kept talking even after the question was done she was caught off guard with JW’s further questions about what she had just revealed in her babblings and seemed to be making up things to try to answer JW’s further questions…in other words, her efforts to try to convince people she was not doing anything wrong brought up more issues that JW questioned her about but Sky was unable IMHO to answer those questions credibly,,,she was NOT credible IMHO…
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I agree. IMHO they have no credibility whatsoever…and them having possession of TA’s journals as well as them gaining access to TA’s email accounts are puzzling as to why there seemed to be no investigation into those occurrences which I believe are highly suspect and unusual..
I’m not sure exactly when Travis’s journals went missing but Dave Hall stayed at Travis place for a week shortly (shortly = a few weeks or a few months before?) before Travis died. Here he is in his own words:
“That bathroom and those details are part of what haunt Dave Hall. He had stayed with Alexander shortly before he was murdered. “I was there in that house. I was staying for a whole week, there in the bedroom next door to where he was murdered. So when I watched the news broadcast, and I hear them talk about the description of the bloody palm print on the wall and in the shower and stuff — I’ve been there. I’ve stood there, I’ve touched those walls, you know, I’ve been in that bathroom. It’s like I’ve stood there, and it’s really eerie to try to get these images out of my mind of my poor friend standing there and being shot, and then stabbed…”
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/01/01/jodi-arias-travis-alexander-killer-romance
It sure appears that sister TS was one of the main instigators of spreading fictional facts that were taken for the gospel by the trash network of HLN.. .imo. The Alexander family have spent an enormous amount of time and effort to create a fictional bio of TA that was far from the truth, only for their own profit. They haven’t missed an opportunity to profit, no matter what they have to say or do. It’s too bad they didn’t pull together as a loving family while TA was living. Instead, they waited until after the unfortunate death of their misrepresented brother, how sad. Travis might have enjoyed being loved for WHO he was, not for WHAT he could give or do for them. TA struggled day in and day out with his many demons with no help from friends or family. Jodi was truly his only friend on Earth.
DH has always been nothing but one BAD joke, every bit as disgusting as TA’s other associates/so-called friends. BTW DH there wasn’t a bloody palm print. . .ever. It almost sounds like he was there for the set up of a botched investigation, doesn’t it?
WHAT A PATHETIC SELF-SERVING CORRUPT BUNCH. . .SMH. They are what they are.
Establishing, once again, the combined blood, handprint; that contained, NO GUNPOWDER PARTICULATES, proving that, Jodi, DID NOT FIRE A GUN; so how did the mouse derail the rhino, without, shooting him, first….and, why did the three stooges, conceal, that, exculpatory, evidence, if not, to conspire to commit their six, perjuries; three for one pack of lies, and, three, equally, synchronized, repudiations…. to, unperjure their conspiracies…. without, a bleat from, the sheeple….. ???Baaaa… …Edgrrr….
Dave lays out his alibi in case police find his fingerprints or palm prints in Travis’s house and think he might be a suspect in Travis’s death. Dave, Dave, relax man. You didn’t have to worry. Police never found any evidence you were ever in the house (or if they did they’re not talking about it). You’re free to continuing killing trophy animals and tipping over boulders.
I find it funny the more they (the so-called friends and family) speak, the more they all look guilty and involved somehow. Just makes one wonder why they ramble on…….
So true, R. And, speaking of rambling on, here’s Chris Hughes describing the night his “homie’s” body was found:
BY CHRIS HUGHES
ONLY tell this story because so many have been calling many of us wanting to know the details. I just can’t tell it one more time. It is so hard. So here it is for the last time.
We were supposed to go to Cancun Mexico together. Pre-Paid Legal picked up the tab to send it’s top 400 leaders south of the border. Travis and I were on that list. We planned the trip for weeks. My wife and I went in a few days early and were eagerly awaiting his arrival. I found a great LDS Tour of Chichen Itza and Tulum, as well as an opportunity to swim with wale sharks, and kept calling Travis to see if he wanted to come with us. He never answered. I called several times only to have to leave a voice mail. I sent several texts, but never heard back from him. The deadline was swiftly approaching. If he was going to tour the ruins with us, I needed to hear from him pronto. So I called him again. This time, his voice mail was full. Now looking back, something deep inside me was crying out in that moment, but I wouldn’t hear it. I did however tell my wife that something was wrong. I told her his voice mail was full. I wanted to call the cops, but she suggested that we call a friend to go check on him. I didn’t know any of his current room mates, but I knew the name of a couple of his former roommates, so I texted Dave Hall, a mutual friend, to see if he could get me the number of one of Travis’s old room mates. This was the text I sent: “Do you have any of the guys numbers who used to live with T-dawg (Travis)? His voice mail is full. He hasn’t returned any of our urgent phone calls, voice mails or texts???”
I sent that text June 9 at 10:53 pm Central Time. Five hours later, about 4 am, our hotel phone rang. My wife answered. I could only hear her side of the conversation: Hello? He’s asleep.
Ok. Chris it’s Dave Hall calling about Travis.
Chris: Hello
Dave: Chris it’s Dave Hall. I hate to tell you this Chris. Chris, Travis is dead.
I went numb. My soul cried out NOOOOOOOOO!
AZCentral.com said “He had trauma to his body and police are investigating it as a homicide.”
I can’t believe it. I just can’t believe it. My friend, my brother, my homie, my business partner is gone. Our friend, Travis Alexander has left this life, and we are left to mourn his tragic death. That’s the bad news. The good news is, he is with his Savior Jesus Christ. The pain of this life has ended for him. He has been wrapped in the robes of his Redeemer.
There never was, and there never will be another quite like him. He IS the most unique person I have ever known. I love you Travis.
I never heard the part of his story that he called Dave Hall before…. interesting.
I wonder if this actually happened:
“Dr. Horn may not know it yet but his testimony was downloaded to viral status by every reputable law school or criminal justice professor following the trial. Not in a good way when the syllabus header is “What Your Witness Can Never do.” – Blink on Crime
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/05/05/jodi-arias-trial-verdict-watch-plea-to-jury-deciding-arias-fate-hang-before-manslaughter-if-you-must/
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😳 Dr. Horn must be beaming with pride. smh
I have asked more folks then enough….could You judge Your own loved ones…….HELL NO! but it must be so easy to judge some one you hate…JODI ANN ARIAS. And that,s what happened in that joke of a courtroom. As soon as jss saw those vile questions of pure hate it should have been WHO wrote this…stand the fuck up or I,ll put all of you in jail with contempt…a trial is not a joke or a place of payback. jss proves that the system must get a reboot ASAP…..justice for all ring a bell. It amazes me how there,s no way it happened as JODI said…62 sec. impossible…so have you tried to do it….gee it,s only 62 sec,s of your life. The day She told of how the fight went down I tested the time line….did ANYONE else do that? And it,s no fun if it turns out it CAN,T be done…42 sec. as many times as I did it and way over what SHE did…ie: shot 3x,s stabbed 32x,s slashed 3x,s and I was just doing a test. Anyone who has fought for their life knows HER truth…I do.That so called judge had a duty to disregard that verdict of pure hate….the judge has the last say in ANY court.not the jury. Imagine if HER jury had to answer for that verdict……so just how did you reach your verdict…..facts, evidence, truth. I don,t think they,d be going home for a very long while. As JODI said if you don,t believe ME then believe….him….his big mouth doomed him……he made a habit of making threats ask that prick abe…or is it called ape….man down abe you are a loser. As for horn that thing proves dr. can LIE on the stand…..typo…maybe he a real idiot….but the Phineas Gage never heard of that case….WTF. it,s the most famous head injury in U.S. history or the world. The win at any cost America is that what you want…….Lets undue this wrong for all of us and bring that young LADY back home soon.
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Chin up Jodi
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Jodi loved TA, but was not obsessed with him. She MOVED BACK to Yreka to get AWAY FROM HIM and to start over…How obsessed is that?? Not, so Sky is once again NOT credible in anything she says IMHO. TA used Jodi for sex, period. He was incapable of having a real relationship with any woman due to his abusive childhood where I believe he was damaged beyond repair….I feel sorry for the siblings that they had to endure such a horrendous upbringing, but it is not the fault of Jodi..and if you look closely, you will see that abuse reflected in the way the siblings have handled this entire tragic incident….denial, denial, denial about the truth of TA…
And TA was so obsessed with Jodi that even after she moved back to Yreka he was still planning on visiting her there and fulfilling his perverted fantasy of doing it to a “school girl” in the woods and putting it in her ass..(excuse my language) and traveling some more with her….now WHO WAS OBSESSED??? Just listen to the sex tape in HIS OWN WORDS !!!!!!! Not to mention he still called her continually for phone sex to feed his perverted obsessions…
The truth is the truth is the truth… there is simply no denying it unless you are delusional….
” his abusive childhood where I believe he was damaged beyond repair” ——-truest words EVER!
I do believe the real reason we’re all here today (both sides) is TA’s fucked up childhood combined with the fact that he never seeked professional help to deal with his inner demons. It’s the reason why his screws were loose and he resorted to sick fantasies and abuse of women.
BAM BABY !!
Yup! BAM!
T-dogg texting CH. (His spelling mistakes – not mine) As a rule, he doesn’t even dream about these women that he buys rings for, keeps around for 7 years in case he needs something, and is supposed to love ……
02/29/08 17:02:23 Outgoing By the wa I had my forth mimi dream last night which officially the most dreamed about person in the history of tdoggs dreamland.
Imagine the fireworks if “TDogg” ever had the chance to hang out with “the Prosecutor”
YUCK!!! Two psychos who like referring to themselves in the 3d person.
And this is PRECISELY why being a parent is the most challenging, most serious, most demanding thing in life: because the way you raise them is so crucial that even when when the smallest thing goes wrong, it can mess them up PRETTY BADLY for the rest of their lives.
Maria, do you know who else refers to himself in third person? Sheriff Joe according to Kiefer’s article.
Oh my…….Really???
Well, Travis is already in Hell waiting for Kermit and Joe to join him. I bet those 3 will have a great time together down there 😉
or six?
But, Dwight, what we apparently don’t understand is that while Jodi’s behavior is considered stalking, Travis’ behavior was just him being a typical guy, getting whatever he could wherever he could. 🙄
And I’d be interested in seeing the cell phone records between April ’08, when she moved back to Yreka, and June 4th. Let’s see who’s calling who and how often. Let’s see who’s stalking who.
Actually, to be grammatically correct:
Who the hell is stalking WHOM???
Who was stalking whom and who was seeking out whom? Hmmm, easy answer. And we all know it was the perv!!!! TA! 🙄 🙄
He managed to pull her in every time she tried to break free. But we all know this is *exactly* how manipulators/abusers and mind-games players/puppeteers behave when they realize they’re losing power over their victim.
From the text messages it seems Jodi left Mesa on April 4th and they were texting back and forth. Three days later it was TA that texted Jodi.
04/04/08 22:34:57 Incoming No you’re wrong. I can’t sleep. I’m back on the road again.
04/07/08 02:52:45 Outgoing Where are you?
04/07/08 02:57:10 Incoming In Hollister – Where are you? =)
04/07/08 03:00:23 Outgoing Home.
04/07/08 03:02:29 Incoming My truck is now full floor to ceiling, front to back!
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“Why don’t you have him come and fuck you in the woods…”
Does anyone remember the context of this jealous, controlling and abusive message from Travis? Who is the ‘him” he speaks of?
Justus, here is the passage….
Jodi: Hey there someone has my google password because he’s helping me w/some things on my google blog. Unfortunately, he happens to be an ex-boyfriend
TA: You and you steve cover up make me freaking sick. You are liar to the core of who you are it seems
Jodi: I was just trying to move my business to a more private venue. You brought it up. The fact that I’m a single girl talking to some guy is not sick. Being completely honest about him w/you was a mistake. I spared you only a few details because every time I begin to divulge anything like that you stop me and tell me you don’t want to hear about that stuff. So I was vague on purpose for that reason exactly. But nothing I said about him was untrue.
TA: Why don’t you have him come and fuck you in the woods. I can only imagine you are so worried about me reading
Thanks, Carol. I had a feeling you’d have it at your fingertips. What an amazing resource you are!
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I thought Mormons weren’t supposed to drink, so what’s he doing hanging in a bar anyway?
Dwight,
with all due respect : sometimes I get the impression that your starting point for your thinking process is confirmation bias. You assume others killed TA and then you work your way around, trying to find a sometimes far-fetched explanation about things.
Why is it SO hard to just admit Jodi killed TA in SELF-DEFENSE, just as she testified under oath? Jodi has asked her supporters to please respect her testimony because it’s the TRUTH.
Why is it difficult for people to accept that? No offense. Just thinking out loud, I guess……
Yes Maria, exactly how I read it most days.
There is also a bit of vacillation when necessary, to be heard, or play all sides against the middle for a win. i.e. “Obviously Jodi was covered with blood because of the blood found by the rental car attendant. Do you really think that she would in broad daylight covered with blood change the tag on her car? If so where was the blood at on the plate itself? (More comments that have ZERO basis in fact)
So intruders did it, or ta’s friends, or maybe now and then Jodi defended herself so that’s why she was all bloody in her car, etc. etc. etc.
This is why I wrote “Argument from ignorance” roughly meaning- It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa)
It’s this endless parade of opinions termed facts, and it’s all “Argument from ignorance”
Show me ONE of those opinions that has ever had any bearing on ANYTHING that might ever benefit Jodi. That’s why we are here, to support Jodi and Jodi’s choices.
I don’t get many straight answers Maria, and I would never expect one in this instance, much less any capitulation. You see if you avoid it, it was never there.
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Dwight, no, Jodi’s confession is simply not hearsay, legally speaking… especially (but not exclusively) since she “confessed” in open court. Which is NOT to say she is guilty of murder. Again, self-incriminating statements are not hearsay in American jurisprudence.
“If she had killed Travis in self defense then out of respect for her supporters then where are the weapons she used, being the gun and knife, to show us that she killed Travis in self defense?”
“In America trials are conducted in a manner where physical evidence is needed to prove or disprove guilt.”
“The truth is her testimony was coerced out of her by Juan.”
“Either the rental attendant cleaned blood out of the car or he didn’t and lied about finding blood in he car.”
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My question is how the cops even found out that hughes was in possession of TA journals and had to get a court order to make them turn them over!? There was so much tampering with evidence by the hughes before authorities were even called but who ratted out the hughes? Sky was allowed to play frog like a banjo before and during trial so, who snitch out the hughes about journal or was it one of the mormons slipping on their own spit? Like talking before they think! Surprisingly sky hasnt said to much about lisa but the roommates are the ones telling lisa TA was cheating on her. Lisa was always breaking up with TA just to make up just to break up again. But lisa also lied under oath, just like deanna! TA knew he could always have these 2 morons i mean mormon girls but he always wanted Jodi ! Even if he had to lie and keep her a secret to keep hughes, not so!!! virgin TA stable mormon girls from wigging!! TA had no education so really where could he have gone to find a real job so he could cut his puppet strings ! Does anybody know the story to how TA lost $250 thousands? Bet the hughes knows!!!
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Dwight thank you for tryn to answer some of my questions!:) my question is who told the authorities that hughes was in possession of travis journal? The hughes MADE authorities get a court order to release the journal to them. How did cops even know hughes had the so called stolden journal that travis spoke of to Jodi. Who knew that hughes had travis stolden journal and told the authorities that hughes had travis stolden journal? It seems to me that someone snitched out the hughes! How else would the cops know that there was even a journal AND a stolden one at that!!! The $250 thousand lostmoney I read on SW site . She shed light on alot of unanswered questions , corruption and the cash clowns.
Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes! Jodi actually talked to TA about the effects of dropping a camera when he was about to buy one…..
04/24/08 04:08:05 Incoming Check if there is already a manufacturers warranty, anything
04/24/08 04:10:28 Incoming Hmm… Could be worth it depending on how much more it covers and how much traveling youll be doing
04/24/08 04:11:42 Incoming Id rather have it and not need than…
04/24/08 04:11:44 Incoming what if u drop it and it
04/24/08 04:12:19 Incoming Shatters like my olympus did?
04/24/08 04:14:17 Incoming If yes then I wish I’d had a warranty like that!
Carol,
Good find. So many things are stranger than fiction about this case.
One of these days a real writer/author is going to write a book about Jodi’s case from an objective point-of- view. It will be so much different than these one-sided hack jobs that have been scribbled by Cash Hughes and others for a “quick buck.”
TA made that comment about running out of gas in the middle of the desert during his last motivational speech as well…..
Now that would have been great to hear during the trial as an example of how carrying gas cans makes a lot of sense when traveling through the hot desert..out of the mouth of TA himself !! LOL!!
Yes, he said that in his last “motivational speech” in Ft. Collins CO. – Yes, that would have been great for the jury to hear. WTF was the Defense doing???? This was their jobs to research this crap.
Yep yep and rumors have it that Jodis’ defense cost in the millions just so they could get their ass handed back to them. They went through the motions but that was about it. Truth be known they probably got paid to be lame/passive. Obviously the hughes, alexander, mormons bought and paid for this trial! Thank God for the 2nd trail jour #17!!! The mob that hughes rallied up outside the court house was so mad that I bet they went home and ate their dogs! I feel the repeat of the 3 million spent on trail is a form of intimidation of Jodi in hopes of winning her appeal for a new trail. The courts should release her for the time spent on this corruption of lies, deceit, tampering , destroyed, hidden evidence. Jodi can not/will not ever get a fair trial !! I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if the blood lust mob doesnt burn the city down when Jodi walks out the iron gates!
WOAH……
There is no doubt that the boy had issues. His childhood was hellish which made him fear intimacy or commitment. he needed therapy in the worst way. How is it though that they can make Jodi out to be the one with issues?? She is guilty of choosing the wrong men: Vampire chaser who wanted to move to San Fran, a guy old enough to be her Dad, and Travis. Aside from his demons, he was woefully in debt. I agree that he could not/would not go out and get a job as he was too fixated on the high life. – Yes, he made some $$$ with PPL but it looks as if the gravy train was coming to a halt. – I do believe that this led to his anger issues and abusive behavior. So, we have lack of finances, feeling pressure to find a wife, terrible childhood which all let to his abusive behavior. The Defense should have done more to expose these facts which could have shed some reasonable doubt. They only focused on the fact that Jodi lent him some money. Did they run his financials? Did they see who else he owed money to? With the thousands of texts and emails, why didn’t the defense find the one with Deanna where she is begging for her money and he calls her a slut? Why the hell wasn’t Sky made to testify in open court regarding those emails between herself and Travis? URGHHH
Two little words – one little man – Objectionable Juan! Ms. ALV tried her very best to get some of this information to the jury, but Juan wouldn’t let the truth come out and JSS held his hand.
The defense team dropped the ball way to many times.
BTW, great points Cat!!!
I for one believe in JODI,s testimony….and I do believe in HER. This there,s no way such a small woman could do that…well when you,re trying to survive it,s amazing what you can do….16 yr. old girl lifts car to save dad…..as far as t-dog it would be best to say ….sooner or later…some ones going to fight back. Did he ever respect ANYONE including himself…that boy was broken from a very young age.But unlike that family of his he could hide his darkness ,them not so much…..
I never knew Jodi had braces when she was younger, LOL! 😛
Michael Kiefer on Joe:
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/investigations/2015/09/11/sheriff-joe-arpaio-legacy/71888720/
The Hughes have been making a very big deal about the May 22nd text message when Jodi says she is speaking with an attorney. On April 11th, TA texts her about hearing from the attornies. (Gosh, he’s a bad speller!) He asks her a bunch of questions and then disappears on her – nice guy NOT!
04/09/08 05:43:28 Incoming Guess what I just found
04/09/08 05:43:57 Outgoing What?
04/09/08 06:40:05 Outgoing Hooray!!!!!
04/09/08 06:41:18 Incoming =)
04/09/08 07:48:51 Incoming Wow. It’s like that, huh? Wow…
04/11/08 09:07:30 Outgoing I know youre busy but there are things I need to know that concern me. Did you hear from the attornies, have a job, mail my stuff back etc.?
04/11/08 10:17:30 Incoming Ä1/4Ñ I don’t understand. I haven’t heard from you in days. I’ve made several attemps to get a hold of you. When I called you a few nights ago you were on the
04/11/08 10:17:37 Incoming Ä2/4Ñ other line but you didn’t pick up or call me back, even after I left you a voicemail and a text message. You called me just over 40 minutes ago but you
04/11/08 10:17:42 Incoming Ä3/4Ñ were gone before I could even reach my phone and you didn’t leave a voicemail. I tried calling you back on both lines but you didn’t answer either.
Okay, does anyone know why she was supposedly speaking to an attorney in April of 2008?
And if you could tell me who is “incoming” and who is “outgoing” just so I know for sure who is who..
thanks
The Outcoming is always TA. As for why Jodi was talking about an attorney with him is unknown but my guess would be either about the car or work.
😆 I mean outgoing is always TA. 😆
Thanks
The most logical reason for me would be the car. It was only a couple of weeks after the engine blew up because of that unfortunate towing accident. Jodi testified that TA and her were working together to get a settlement, either from the towing company or insurance company. That seems just like the thing you would need a lawyer for and would involve the both of them.
I agree…that seems logical to me as well..
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This is EXACTLY why the roommates should have been made to testify to get them on record in front of the jury as to their timeline and details which in many instances are contradictory…
I was reading on the dark side and in between their talking of meatflaps and vaginas they had posted a picture of mimi and enrique with his arm around her at travis grave site. They said mimi had gotten married. Dont know if she married enrique but .. things that make you go hmmmm! Does anybody havea way to look up who mimi married? The roomates did rat travis out to lisa of his cheating on her so maybe they didnt want to see mimi become just a number when it came to travis sexual appetite.
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From TVA’s journal entries. TA changed his mind as often as Juan changed his ties.
5-18-08
…“I didn’t get to bed until 4 am. I was thinking about Lisa. Regret and reconciliation were what my mind were focused on. I miss her. I still love her. Mimi gave me something to take my mind off things, but it didn’t change my feelings for Lisa. I thought by now I would be over them, but I’m not. Strange really.”
5-21-08
“Well I’m freaking out right now. I’m calling Lisa in about 10 minutes. “
5-22-08
“Well Lisa has not called back yet. I can only have faith that she will. I am broken up. I made some big mistakes and I am paying for them.
5-23-08
…..”Anyhow still no word from Lisa. I’m guessing that I won’t hear any word from Lisa either. So I’m gonna talk to her tomorrow, or try. I will definitely call her.”
5-27-8
“Well, still no talking to Lisa. AWW!! “ …….. “UFC party was great as usual. Met some new people. A couple new girls even. Anything that will get my mind off Lisa for a moment. “
5-29-08
“So I talked to Lisa yesterday. She actually called me. It was her being slightly cold, me being slightly too nice, and me doing all of the talking. She listened to me. I expressed regret, love and a desire to be more cordial to each other. She agreed. ..…… Later Mimi came over; we discussed Cancun. We discussed the whole ‘friends’ thing. I don’t really care. It is what it is. However, the good news is on Saturday I met a cutie pie on Saturday at my UFC party. I saw her Sunday again at church. Two days. She requested me as a friend on Facebook. We have been sending email flirts ever since. I got the phone number. We’ve been texting and now we are hanging out tonight. She is young, 19, she is cute and she has great taste in men. Now I’m excited about something so it helps. Her name is B.R. So time will tell. I’m just happy to have something to think about….”
Man he was such a loser…he was just going from one woman to the next…whoever would meet his immediate needs at that moment…loser and abuser…
The State painted Jodi as hanging on to him because he could elevate her life and social standing. What a fucking joke. She actually had/has way more class, compassion, and ethics that he ever did. What a shame that she is sitting in jail. This guy was a total LOSER.
He should have just stuck to his nine pages of escort services. Maybe that’s he was so broke all the time.
He actually sounds like a 19 year old guy in his writings not a 30 year old man.
He sounds younger actually. Like a 12 or 13 year-old who can’t get enough of his boners and his own jizz!
That man only cared about sex, he was obsessed with sex.And women were nothing to him, just mere objects whe could put it in. Period.
Sorry for being too graphic but I can’t understand how the hell people fell for that guy. Aside from the fact that he is dead and I expected some degree of sympathy for him, there’s NOTHING more to make his character and his entire persona likeable. Quite the contrary, he’s disgusting.
Man? that thing was never a MAN! t-dog hunted women and for what…? his style was taking advantage of them then bragging about it. FUCKING SICK as the jury of hate ignored that fact what a true monster at times he was…hell even herr hitler had a few good days. And to think those so called woman of faith defended the dog on the stand and lied about his dark ways…..there is something really wrong with any faith that hides EVIL. One really has to wonder how many woman and children he did his very best to use as he roamed the U.S.A.. And why would they not speak up…? Well ask that of mr. jello….who would want to face the rage n wrath of a cult. 17 stood up to them and paid a price for doing right..bless HER. As for B. R. gal you got real lucky……!And why is it the more I learn of JODI the more I am proud to know HER and the more I learn of t-dog…! the more I think he is one very SICK pup. Them that stand for him stand on sand or manure! he was just a very sad person who turned on the one and only person who loved him at one time.That,s his legacy…
In Baze v. Rees, 553 U.S. 35, 84 (2008) former Justice John Paul Stevens (one of the best in the past 50 years) said that the process of obtaining a death qualified jury is in reality a procedure that has the purpose and effect of obtaining a jury that is biased in favor of convicting – a process that deprives the accused of a trial by a jury representing a fair cross-section of the community.
EXACTLY !! Then you add to that the insult of perjury in order to obtain the death qualifying aggravator and you are ready for a US Supreme Court battle on the fact that Jodi Ann Arias’ constitutional rights were demolished in this case by the state…this is just one of many good appellate issues..let’s just pray that the judges are focused on the law and not on the politics !!!!
BB,
Yeah, that death qualifying aggravator was a crushing blow to Jodi’s case. It allowed Martinez to get his type of people on the jury (death qualified jurors who are more biased towards the prosecution and a guilty verdict (“conviction prone”), jurors who may deliberate less thoroughly and possibly less accurately, jurors who tend to place more emphasis on aggravating factors and overlook or minimize mitigating factors – see Capital Punishment in Context).
I don’t know how many death penalty cases Martinez has tried but I read he has put 7 people on death row and he tried to put Doug Grant there but failed. I believe Jodi was Kirk Nurmi’s 3rd death penalty trial and the first one for Sherrie Stephens and Jennifer Willmott (although Jennifer was an experienced lawyer).
Maybe, Martinez did what one lawyer, who wrote an article on how to choose a jury, suggested:
NEW – Find out the size and estimated value of your prospective jurors’ homes, and view their homes from an aerial satellite camera – all for free. You can go to a number of web sites, e.g., (1 very good with satellite bird’s-eye view), (2 – home values only) and, with the address and zip code of a home, determine its present estimated value, together with its size and location in relation to other houses in the area. The estimated values are claimed to have a 7-8% median error. You’ll also see the home and others on the block from a satellite camera. This site (1) provides neighborhood demographics. If you have Internet access from the courthouse and a sidekick to do the computer work, this information can be at your fingertips before you make the decision about challenging a juror. Before too long, you will be able to use your computer to drive down each juror’s street and view his/her house from ground level. Search “Google street maps,” and you’ll see what I mean.
AZ: State Supreme Court Lets Notorious Prosecutor Off the Hook Once Again
http://www.prosecutorialaccountability.com/2015/09/21/az-state-supreme-court-lets-notorious-prosecutor-off-the-hook-once-again/
Pathetic…
Carol,
What a disappointment the State Supreme Court is let this damn Martinez break all the rules and strut around like he’s something special. They should be ashamed and the press should be ashamed. People like Troy Hayden and Monica Lindstrom (and many others) praising this guy time and time again. The news sites/newspapers in Arizona should be writing editorials blasting Martinez and the State Supreme Court for their shoddy, gutless behavior.
So true, Coldcase53..shoddy, gutless behavior !!
In Jodi’s case thankfully we have more, much more than just prosecutorial misconduct, we have hard violations such as Brady violations, admitted perjury, the misleading, equivocating, and false testimony by the ME (IMHO) which was critical and central to her conviction, a misapplication of the felony murder rule which effectively eliminated Jodi’s chance at a anything but a 1st degree murder conviction, and on and on and on…so this time around the appeals are not going to solely rely on the charges of prosecutorial misconduct against Little Juanita since the AZ Supreme court seems to be having a long love affair with the little idiot to the detriment of the entire justice system in Arizona….(God forbid that one of the Supremes ever be charged with anything serious bc then they’ll be dealing with little miss Juanita and wishing they had done their job and stripped him of his law license !!) but it will also rely on more evident violations that will be much harder for the Supremes to ignore and sweep under the rug…
Do your jobs, appellate courts !!! DO YOUR JOBS ACCORDING TO THE LAW !!!!! You know that thing you all swore to uphold and all….
And Justice for ALL !!!!
All IMHO
If those bench warmers could not find prosecutorial misconduct in this case, they should just hang up their robes in the broom closet on their way out the door and save the taxpayers a whole lot of money. If that was not misconduct, I cannot image what he would have had to have done!! 😡
Reading this article made my skin crawl. What is wrong with the world? What is wrong with the judicial system? Whoever wrote this piece is a voice we need to make people realize that today it’s Jodi (whom they hate), tomorrow it will be them or one of their loved ones! Martinez makes no exceptions, Martinez abuses, taunts and DEMEANS JUSTICE. He disrespects what he should uphold, the Law.
When will this end? How long will this insidious behavior of his go unpunished?
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This is another reflection of the problem with the appeals process. So its a two pronged test – the court determines if something wrong actually happened, and then balances it against their interpretation of the evidence to determine if they feel it would have been material to the outcome of the case. And that applies to each and every ground for appeal. So, with the exception of a few very narrow examples, the appellant can’t argue evidence (the few exceptions include things like insufficient evidence, actual innocence, etc). The appellant, for the most part can only argue process and procedure. However, the appeals court then looks at the argument in two ways – firstly, did the alleged error actually occur and secondly if it did was it enough to affect the final outcome of the trial. That second leg is normally the downfall of most appeals that fail. As in this case the court can often agree that errors or misconduct occurred, but then go on to say that the level of error/misconduct was not enough to overcome the evidence.
So in fact what the appeals process turns into is a sort of second mini trial albeit with a panel of judges as opposed to a jury. And given their natural proclivity to not overturn a jury verdict except in what they consider to be the most egregious of cases they tend to “excuse” said error/misconduct under the guise of it being “harmless”.
And that is what you have.
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Thanks brother!! I knew you were around.
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“If she had killed Travis in self defense then out of respect for her supporters then where are the weapons she used, being the gun and knife, to show us that she killed Travis in self defense?”
“In America trials are conducted in a manner where physical evidence is needed to prove or disprove guilt.”
“The truth is her testimony was coerced out of her by Juan.”
“Either the rental attendant cleaned blood out of the car or he didn’t and lied about finding blood in he car.”
I HAVE A CONFESSION TO MAKE !!!!
I have not always been on team Jodi. This crime/trial was the most fascinating in recent history. The crime was off of my radar in 08 as that was the year my Father died after fighting lung cancer. What little I heard was on the news and dare I say HLN BOMBSHELL Nancy Disgrace. When the trial was going on my Mom passed away suddenly again the trial was off of my radar. When the verdict came in I was not at all surprised. For what little I had seen JM looked at lot sharper than the Defense and the crime, how horrible. I too saw the pictures and thought who would do such a thing? I cant say that I was happy that Jodi got convicted for 1st degree murder but I was just not surprised. The look on her face when it was read broke my heart. It seemed to me that she did not expect that, perhaps all of her days on the stand she thought she may have won over at least one of the jurors. After the verdict I started looking into the trial via you tube. I have an hour and half commute to work each way and stared to watch the trial with a critical eye. WOW I was disgusted at the State’s antics, lack of evidence, evidence not introduced, evidence thrown on the floor, witnesses berated and screamed at. Jodi impressed the hell out of me. She was smart, funny, and very poised on the stand. I even liked how snarky she was with JM. In my eyes she did a great job (but she was on the stand too long in my opinion). This of course led me to looking at text messages, you tube videos of Travis, Hughes, and the other cast of characters. If I could find this shit online why couldn’t here Defense??? If you only listened to the media, Travis was a saint and Jodi was a twisted monster. I knew there was more to this story so I started to dig. What I found was to be the complete opposite from what I had originally thought. I especially thought that the jurors had already made up their minds with the tone of the questions they asked her. I think her Defense should have been shaking in their shoes at that point. Their witnesses seemed unprepared, sloppy and were made to look foolish by JM. Just disgusting.
I found you guys and though GREAT I am not alone in thinking this was an absolute farce and a kangaroo court. I have friends who think I am nuts saying that Jodi will eventually walk out of prison but I do hope and pray that she does. In my opinion this is a 2nd degree or manslaughter conviction at best.
The real meaning behind this post is am I the only reasonably intelligent person in America who started out not loving Jodi see that this trial was bullshit?? How come more reasonably intelligent people come forward and see the truth?? How come not 1 juror not stand up and see this for what this was?? I have since written Jodi a few times and have gotten 2 responses. She is smart, kind and lovely and when I think she was 1 vote away from death I want to vomit.
Wake up America and free Jodi !!!!!!!
You are so right Cat! Although, I have always seen through the circus/fantasy that the evil green frog created (with moocho help from his Defective Detective and his lying ME) I have shared in the alarm that more people have not seen this farce for what it is. It is certainly disturbing. The media allowed themselves to be manipulated by these totally devious people all for the sake of profit and promoting themselves. Jodi Ann Arias is everything opposite of what the media and TA’s family and friends have portrayed her to be. She is not by any means perfect (no one is) but she is way above the likes of TA & Company. I have found her to be the most loving, caring, considerate, thoughtful, unselfish, intelligent, gifted and extremely strong young woman. ARIZONA needs to wake up from their BRAINWASHED induced COMA and AMERICA needs to start checking up on the Injustices happening in OUR COUNTRY! It is alarming. There are officers of the court in Mesa County, Arizona who need to spend the rest of their days here on Earth in PINK UNDIES!!! Never Doubt it! FREED JODI AZ!!!!!
😉 FREE JODI ARIAS ARIZONA!!!!!! ♥JODI ♥
Thanks, Cat, for your “confession.” I had never heard the name Jodi Arias until the day the trial started. A friend on the east coast asked me if I was going to watch it. I had never watched a trial on TV but I thought, why not? I was immediately hooked by Jodi’s calm and cool demeanor and later, when she was on the stand, I loved the way she stood up and frustrated Martinez with her intelligent replies. If Jodi had have gone to law school, she would have had Martinez’s head spinning like a top. As it was, she got the better of him most days. The more I watched her and learned about her, the more I was “on her side.” But, my east coast friend, who is a nurse and a Christian, had the opposite reaction. She loved Martinez and said she wouldn’t be upset if Jodi got the death penalty. I was even more shocked when my daughter made a similar comment. Both of them got a lot of their information from HLN. My daughter has changed her mind about Jodi. She was glad when she didn’t get the death penalty and always asks about her when she comes for dinner.
I guess what I’m trying to say is I’m still puzzled by the degree of hate towards Jodi. Frequently, “love” relationships end in death but I’ve never seen the surviving person be treated the way Jodi has been.
Thanks Coldcase. I was blown away by Jodi on the stand. – she did get the better of JM most of the time until he hit her with her naked pics that did seem to rock her a bit. She also spent too long on the stand (in my opinion). I am just amazed how everyone thinks including Jodi that Travis was better than her. She is far more intelligent and deeper emotionally than he ever was. If you watch his last speech for PPL he comes off as a smooth and eloquent speaker but really he was a bullshit artist and had everyone believing he was something special. If you peel back the layers Jodi far exceeded him in every way possible. I just wish she had realized that he really was just a loser sooner. – I do hope the she has the opportunity to continue her education as she is very intelligent. I would love to see her get her law degree so she can have a hand in throwing JM, Flores, Horn, Nancy Grace, and Pickles in jail.
Lady Justice seems to have lost her blindfold. There are a lot of old people in US prisons.
“Experts, however, say it’s unlikely the judge would jail an 83-year-old elected official in the nation’s sixth-largest city.”
Read more: http://www.kpho.com/story/30090331/az-sheriff-could-face-fines-for-disobeying-judge#ixzz3mZxhqteH
Gee, wonder if there will be media coverage from the court room. Might be enjoyable to see the Ole man sweating. He should have go to criminal trial. . .fines aren’t enough to settle the mess he has made.
If that asshole doesn’t go to jail simply because of his age it’s just one more poke in the eye of Lady Justice.
Shame on the so called supreme court…..but really they,re not….in the u.s. a military trumps the supreme courts and have on two cases i know.BOOTH v U.S. and the german sabotures that landed on the New Jersey shore in 1941 both cases were put to a MILITARY COMMISSION…..but all the defendants were civilians…my what a great way to try GOV. types…..even the PRES. does,nt get a civil trial so just why should any in GOV. doing treason be given one . See how they like to stand before a panel of judges that will do their jobs or themselfs or pay the price…it,s called CONDUCT UNBECOMING all militaries have it to keep all in line. Strange how the highest can break the laws at will and their like can let them off…untill people just stand up and force the law on them with justice for all. Yes this will be a long haul…..ehat,s what standing up for your rights is and never giving up….1776….1861…1917…1941…1950…and on it goes. We fight for truth…what say the other side….the win at all cost….a TRAITOR thinks like that and deserves a trial by the highest court….for the military are the only AMERICANS that take an oath to protect the CONSTITUTION from enemies from within and out of the U.S. Forgive my spellling but I for one do believe in AMERICA….not native born but a true son of liberty…Don,t ever give up on AMERICA OR HER.
BTW. Jodi would have been much better off having you guys and gals working on her case. The amount of evidence uncovered by you all and the amount of work and thought put into her case FREE OF CHARGE might I add. Unlike her Attorneys who had 5 years and millions of dollars for resources to defend her. – All this girl needed was right here on this site. Kudos to you all.
Dear Cat, Thank you so much for letting us know that some people are indeed capable of coming around when they take the time to fully understand what went on in that courtroom and what a disgrace it was to our justice system; it gives us a wee bit of hope for the rest of mankind. And kudos to you for keeping an open mind!
I also know what you mean about your friend. I too have a friend who got most of her info from HLN and now thinks I’m out of my mind. We’re now not even allowed to talk about it which puts a major strain on our 60 year friendship because I can’t talk to her about something that is so important to me and is a major part of my life. It has damaged our friendship which makes me very sad but I just have to let it go because this is just too too important.
Oops, that thing about friends was actually meant for coldcase…
Justus,
Yeah, the difference of opinion about Jodi negatively affected my relationship with my friend on the east coast , too.
I tend to believe it is people’s RESISTANCE to and fear of accepting anything different than what they already believe in and have established as sonething they have “consolidated” in theri minds.
For example, if I wholeheartedly believe strawberries are disgusting yet my friend says he/she adores them I RESIST to embrace the teeny tiny possibility that strawberries *might* be OK, so it’s simpler and easier to think that anyone liking them is crazy.
What I fail to see is that it is MY problem, it is MY unwillingness to keep an open mind or at least accept that there might be a different viewpoint and that someone else out there may have embraced a different stance on things.
It’s pretty much the same with all issues: homosexuality and equal rights, believing in the Paranormal and all metaphysical phenomena, religion, politics etc etc…..
After almost 3 years of Jodi being in my life, I no longer ALLOW certain people (very few thank God) to even touch upon that subject when I know they won’t respect her . It’s a matter of personal space, they just don’t go there because I have set up a wall, after failed attempts to make them understand. And it’s not just about Jodi – it’s about me too. For someone to be called your friend, respect is one fundamental quality they need to have right?
Yep!
True friends will put their respect and affection above whatever differences of opinion they might have.
Justus, I know how you feel. My own mother berates me for my support of Jodi.
I don’t know how much influence Jennifer had on how things were run but I sure get the feeling Nurmi didn’t really believe Jodi so he never even tried thinking outside the box he’d shoved his mind into. He never sought out the evidence because he never believed it really existed.
I totally agree with you about Nurmi Justus.
I it so obvious that he just didn’t like her, believe her and wanted off of the case. – He did a half-assed job and thought just by crying self defense he would sway a juror or two. He needed to look at the press this was getting and what was being reported about the saintly Travis and how this would look regarding Jodi. Instead of just crying self defense he needed to look into the inner workings of Travis and show the jury how and why he was abusive. Even if the jury did not buy the pedo stuff about him how the fuck could they deny that he was an abusive asshole?? I hate when women who have been raped are put on trial for their behavior or the way they were dressed etc. It’s wrong, but this was a capital death penalty case involving abuse. It’s not enough to say he was abusive but you need to show how and why. Childhood, going broke, needing to find a wife, breaking the laws of the church. This guy was a pressure cooker waiting to explode. They had 5 years to prepare and what they gave Jodi was a lame ass defense. – She may have been better off using PPL to defend her because this clearly did not work.
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PPL is really a pyramid scheme but refuse to accept the title IMO. Some people like the Hughes brothers rake in the dough from people like Jodi and others struggling with the concept and pressure of pushing the product. Through the business, the Hughes seemed to feel some kind of ownership over TA’s life at least, telling him who he could see and not see.
Neither Chris Hughes nor Sky Hughes testified at trial. They testified at an evidentiary hearing – evidence on the Defense’s Motion for Mistrial based on prosecutorial misconduct – during the first trial. Their testimony was recorded and can be viewed on this site, but the jurors were not present because they wouldn’t be weighing in on the defense motion.
M&M Hughes ‘testified’ aplenty on HLN – and all over the internet to anyone who would listen. But not at trial.
Really, Dwight, so much of what you say indicates that you don’t know the facts of this case very well.
Thank you Journee for your comment concerning Dwight. I have been concerned for some time about how closely he followed the trial. He says somethings that quite frankly are ludicrous. I think he means well but I don’t think he is helping Jodi long term. Thank you for your long term rational contributions.
Dwight, I am not sure what journals the Hughes ended up with, but Jodi and TA did have a conversation about two missing journals:
04/23/08 19:25:10 Phone Outgoing (Travis to Jodi): “I just noticed that in addition to my last journal that I lost my journal before that are missing too. The 2 journals encompass all the time I was with you. Jodi please, if you have anything to do with this, if you ever had any ounce of love for me you’ll give them back.” Jodi checks through her stuff for him and doesn’t find anything.
I have heard these missing journals referred to as the time he spent with Lisa, depending on who is talking to who.
Richard Glossip made the morning news! He is on schedule to be executed in one week!!! His defense attorney claims that their witnesses are being intimated/harassed by the state and they need protection!!! WOW! The state is for sure chomping the bit to put this man down! The state did the same with Timothy McVeigh fot the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in OKC OK. McVeigh did get the death sentence and Tim requested to be put to death on the following Wednesday and the courts said ok and so they did! Talk about hushing/silent someone!
tiny seems to claim all the child porn found was a mistake…..hmm…but on went the MISTAKES! It,s life a brit. rockstar RESEARCHING CHILD PORN…..say what or is that WHO. All know even a luddite and a very bad spelller like me on certain sites….it,s WTF…OMG…SICK. BUT when You go back to them…hmm…WHY? Always remember it took 3 tries to get his message to JODI….about a child….who when hearing him say such….did,nt think…one sick creep. But a lot of em creeps have a wife, kids ,good job ,go to church ,as for HGand are respected by so many….that,s called camo……as for HER being a lawyer well better SHE had been a COP! NO CHARGES…see the web friendo! Or when SHE took the stand SHE could speak to the way the law REALLY works…..for itself! The rest of us …not so much. As for being on the stand to much…hmm well we all knew that the juries rather odd and hate filled questions had in store for HER….D/P! But I would say that JODI saved JODI with the help of JENNIFER…with no help from two ton untill he sat down and let J.W. take over. JODI wanted JENNIFER for the 2nd trial. This talking to much….well it hung a jury of pure hate 4 times and showed this world that a WOMAN and a LADY can stand up real well to INJUSTICE. Lets face facts az. lost…NO D/P.and now an appeal…s…tick tock time is running out az. enjoy your fake win ….for now.
Many transcripts are being filed in Jodi’s case right now. That must be one huge appeal file. I am hoping something good comes out of it for her.
Here’s a Reuter’s article on Arpaio’s hearing yesterday:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/24/us-usa-arizona-arpaio-idUSKCN0RO1ST20150924
I particularly like this part:
“Under intense questioning from plaintiffs’ attorney Cecillia Wang, [Chief Deputy] Sheridan said he could not remember reading memos he was sent, including several from the lawyer representing the sheriff’s office, nor attending meetings regarding the preliminary injunction Snow issued in 2011.”
So it would appear that Arpaio (according to earlier self-serving statements) doesn’t give orders to his subordinates, only suggestions — and his 2nd in command has alzheimer’s.
(And these bizarre people – and their ilk – have the gall to call Jodi a liar? 🙄 SMH)
Hi supporters.
Does anyone know if you can use Inmate Aid
https://www.inmateaid.com/
to send Jodi letters and money? Her name shows up in the database, but I’ve never had to use Inmate Aid before. Since I’m not in the US, it would be really convenient for me. Keeping the faith for Jodi.
Thanks!
I just added the following to the Abusive Behavior page of the Reasonable Doubt document – as a bullet item under Controlling Behavior:
* Displaying jealousy if Jodi wanted to see other men, even though they were no longer a couple. For example, on May 10, 2008, during a time when Travis was quite busy “sexting” numerous women, Jodi revealed to Travis that an ex-boyfriend had her Google password but she didn’t give him details, for reasons explained in her response. (Note the verbal abuse Jodi receives as a consequence.)
Jodi: Hey there someone has my google password because he’s helping me w/some things on my google blog. Unfortunately, he happens to be an ex-boyfriend
Travis: You and you steve cover up make me freaking sick. You are liar to the core of who you are it seems
Jodi: I was just trying to move my business to a more private venue. You brought it up. The fact that I’m a single girl talking to some guy is not sick. Being completely honest about him w/you was a mistake. I spared you only a few details because every time I begin to divulge anything like that you stop me and tell me you don’t want to hear about that stuff. So I was vague on purpose for that reason exactly. But nothing I said about him was untrue.
Travis: Why don’t you have him come and fuck you in the woods. I can only imagine you are so worried about me reading
And why wouldn’t she be worried with that kind of abusive response?
Apparently my interpretation of what was going on here was erroneous. It would seem this exchange resulted from Jodi accidentally sending a message to Travis that was meant for another male friend. I must thank the Super Dupers for correcting me on this matter (even though they did it in their usual nasty manner and it in no way detracts from Travis’ equally nasty behavior). I have corrected my entry accordingly.
And it would seem that because I made a mistake, I must not have watched any of the trial. You know, the usual black and white, shallow thinking used to degrade anyone who disagrees with them. And, of course, they know every minute detail about this case and none of them ever make any mistakes. Arrogance and immaturity personified. 🙄
Here is more of that conversation about the “Steve” comment. This was one of the important exchanges for the defence expert because it demonstrates his anger and over-reaction from his losing control over Jodi’s personal life.
05/10/08 03:01:50 Incoming (Jodi): Ä1/3Ñ Please don’t give me any more grief about Steve or anyone else. I still love you bunches and I’m doing what I think will help me move on. I haven’t
05/10/08 03:01:57 Incoming (Jodi): Ä2/3Ñ asked you about any girls in your life recently. Let’s just adopt a dont ask dont tell policy when it comes to that stuff and we’ll both be better off.
05/10/08 03:02:06 Incoming (Jodi): Ä3/3Ñ Dont you agree?
05/10/08 03:03:09 Outgoing (Travis): How about we take it one step further and forget each other exist.
(Discussion about text that was intended for Angela and then back to “Steve” message ending with an apology from Travis)
05/10/08 05:11:52 Outgoing (Travis): Please stop? I havnt even begun. You are going to start to be held accountable for your shiz. You have pissed me off in a way you never should have and until now I have given you a lot of mercy. But you have pissed that a way and times are fixing to get tough for you.
05/10/08 05:25:21 Outgoing (Travis): What is taking so long?
05/10/08 05:25:56 Outgoing (Travis): Ho am I able to type you multiple text and you bare not able to resend one.
05/10/08 05:26:18 Outgoing (Travis): You are changing it because you are a liar.
05/10/08 05:26:36 Incoming (Jodi): Ä1/2Ñ Ä1/2Ñ Hey there some one has my google password because he’s helping me w/some things on my google blog. Unfortunately, he happens to be an ex
05/10/08 05:26:43 Incoming (Jodi): Ä2/2Ñ boyfriend! Jodiarias ¡hotmail for now if u want. Thanks!
05/10/08 05:47:07 Incoming (Jodi): Ä1/2Ñ I know why that one is private now! I forgot about a new album I’ creating its not done yet. I’ll tell u later if u ever want to know but I’m tired of
05/10/08 05:47:12 Incoming (Jodi): Ä2/2Ñ texting. Good night.
05/10/08 05:50:07 Outgoing (Travis): I’m not going to be having a good night Jodi. If you are going to insult me make sure you learn how to do it. Sometimes ignorance is bliss I guess. You speak so often of how I have hurt you. Just because you read about it in your journal more or talk about it more doesn’t mean you’ve been hurt more.
05/10/08 05:53:52 Incoming (Jodi): Ä1/3Ñ I know. I am very sorry for all of the pain we’e caused each other. Most of it is my fault because of the decisions I’ve made. I’m sorry you’ve suffered
05/10/08 05:54:01 Incoming (Jodi): Ä3/3Ñ sorry sweetheart.
05/10/08 05:54:03 Incoming (Jodi): Ä2/3Ñ as a result of it. I never meant to hurt you in any way. Hurting you makes me feel more subhuman than I ever thought possible. I love you and I’m
05/10/08 05:54:47 Outgoing (Travis): I’m sorry too, I love you.
For completeness, this is the middle part about the text that was intended for Angela:
05/10/08 04:36:48 Incoming (Jodi): Oh and not that u would, but dont tell him!!!
05/10/08 04:56:31 Outgoing (Travis): Do you want to explain what the hell that means and who that was supposed to got to?
05/10/08 04:58:12 Outgoing (Travis): You’ve had 30 minutes to come up with a lie, lets here it.
05/10/08 04:59:25 Incoming (Jodi): Angela. It’s about a surprise for Joey regarding Cooperstown. The surprise is we might stay the night in the museum but I didnt want her to spoil it.
05/10/08 04:59:53 Incoming (Jodi): I JUST GOT THAT TEXT FROM YOU!!!
05/10/08 05:00:29 Incoming (Jodi): I didnt even realize it went to u til u brought it up just now
05/10/08 05:03:43 Outgoing (Travis): I freaking bet. I wonder what crap you send out that I don’t get. I bet the second half of that email was a doozy. You are a real piece of work, by the way thanks for keeping your end of the contract you made by paying me for the car you destroyed. You are more and more like your mom everyday.
05/10/08 05:04:45 Outgoing Travis): Going to cooperstown while you owe me thousands. What integrity.
05/10/08 05:08:04 Incoming (Jodi): Ä1/3Ñ please stop. I havent purchased anything yet. Im not even sure if I’m going which is why I didnt want Angela to get Joey’s hopes up too soon. We will go
05/10/08 05:08:13 Incoming (Jodi): Ä2/3Ñ eventually, but I’ve been discussing it w/my parents and they may fund a good portion of it cause its for his bday. I havent forgotten about my
05/10/08 05:08:25 Incoming (Jodi): Ä3/3Ñ obligation to you and I’ve been consistently checking back on all of my applications.
This demanding, arrogant, self-centered egomaniac abuser was so full of himself that he probably stunk up the room air where ever he was. Why Jodi felt the need to grovel and explain herself like she owed him any explanation is not comprehensible to me…they were not girlfriend/boyfriend and she was living in a different state and was single. But this is what ABUSERS DO !!!!
It is so obvious from his abusive way he talked or should I say ranted at her that he could not control his anger whatsoever….He abused her physically, mentally, and every which way he could…
He was worthless !!
It seems Jodi is not the only one to send a message to someone by mistake. Jodi did not blow up and demand to know who the message was for.
01/04/08 02:27:06 Phone Incoming (Jodi): Sorry I couldn’t pick up. I’m at work. Yes, I picked up a shift on a Thursday night. :-p
01/04/08 04:04:33 Phone Outgoing (Travis): No worries you got to be responcible or you’ll always have to work every tgursday
01/04/08 04:08:14 Phone Incoming (Jodi): THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT!!! Great visionaries think alike! I’m so glad u see it the way I do. I just got off work.
01/04/08 04:11:23 Phone Outgoing (Travis): Ill have it to you tuesday the 300 that is
01/04/08 04:12:20 Phone Outgoing (Travis): I just pulled a jodi that was for someone else=)
01/04/08 04:14:43 Phone Incoming (Jodi): Haha, heehee! 😀 Understandable, my dear.
Ha! And apparently that was intended for Deanna during the time she was trying to get her money back.
Thursday 01/03/08
Deanna: [9:55 PM] Hey hon! i need 300 bucks asap… let me know if that possible. thanks!
Travis: [10:19 PM] Not my problem
Deanna: [10:20 PM] Give me my f’ing money
Travis: [10:23 PM] Dang. When do you need it by?
Yeah, we don’t hear Jodi going ballistic. So who is the one with the short fuse?
As well, “I just pulled a Jodi” indicates to me that it was something that she did often enough that it got someone’s attention, like leaving behind her charger.
I came across a text this morning where she let TA know that she had left her charger at his place. His response or next text was to say he needed the “wireless key”. There was also a text where she said she had left it behind at one of the Hughes brothers at one of those meetings.
Just like she thought she had left the charger behind at Darryl’s on June 3rd. And who of us hasn’t plugged our charger in at someone’s house (or in a hotel room) during a trip and then either left it behind or almost left it behind? It is something she had done before so she thought that was what happened when she couldn’t find it that day.
What might the “wireless key” be for? Just curious…
“Grace is not part of consciousness; it is the amount of light in our souls, not knowledge nor reason.”
– Pope Francis
DITTO THAT BABY !!!!
more crap from America’s justice system – TX is were frog should be
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-gives-virginia-lethal-drug-for-execution-next-week/ar-AAeNEqp?li=AA54ur&ocid=U147DHP
New post added…
Retrial Video Replay – Day 10:
https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/retrial-video-replay-day-10-justice-for-jodi
SJ
Team Jodi #WINNING <<<
Hello all. Mormon girl here. I don’t have sex with kids nor am I preparing for an apocalypse. I do however believe TRavis got what he deserved. I believe Jodie is innocent from the stand point of being emotionally and physically abused for so long and having mixed messages of faith and deviant sex taught to her. I hope the appeals goes through for her. Best of luck Jodie!
Thanks for stopping by Rebecca and sharing your positive thoughts for Jodi ♥
Yes, Rebecca, thank you.
Why hasn’t anyone bothered to question why Mesa PD didn’t use Evidence Tape to seal the lid of the laptop before it was transported from the crime scene to the evidence locker?
“CPS said Jayson has been accused of sexually molesting his daughter and his son [from a previous relationship],” Kristina says. “CPS gave me a choice. They said if I don’t sign the piece of paper that would keep Jayson out of my son’s life, they would have to take custody of all three of my children.”
http://www.drphil.com/videos/father-who-lost-parental-rights-to-kids-after-molestation-findings-fighting-to-see-his-newborn-the-last-day-i-saw-my-baby-was-the-day-he-was-born/
According to big-mouth Chris Hughes and many others, pedophiles do not have an interest in both sexes. Dr. Phil did not question this accusation as unusual.