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COURT CANCELLED FOR TODAY
RESCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY MAY 15th
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Ok then peeps… we’re back again for part 2 of the trial.
Having thought about things overnight, it looks very much like this jury took the easy way out.
It’s like this. As we all know, most of the jurors (in Casey’s trial) ultimately ended up having to relocate after they and their families received way too many death threats, following their Not Guilty verdict for Casey. The only difference with this trial is that these jurors won’t need to do that.
Basically, their knowledge of the Casey jurors experiences weighed heavily on their minds while they deliberated their verdict. So with the options of “TV interviews, book deals & celebrity status” versus “death threats & swift relocation”, like I say, they took the easy way out.
Add their farcical non-sequestration into the equation, and you have all the makings of a BS verdict. That’s exactly what we got. It wasn’t so much about justice, but more about their self-preservation.
After all, how could they have convicted Jodi based on the evidence? There was none. The State never proved its pre-med case in the slightest… nor could it… but it didn’t stop the jurors coming back with M1 on what would normally have been a run-of-the-mill self-defense case. Hopefully they’ve had time to consider their collective errors by now, and that can be rectified to a great degree during the sentencing phase – and prior to the appellate court appeals.
Moving on from that, I had planned on making a long list of people to say a hearty “FUCK YOU!” to this morning, irrespective of the verdict, but that can wait for another day. I’m still compiling it.
It was interesting to see the unbridled joy of the haters & retarded pedo-huggers yesterday too – even though most of them never even watched the trial, and just jumped on the rickety mormon trash band wagon at the last minute. But hey… it’s probably the only real joy they’ve ever experienced in their lives — since having sex with their kids for the first time — so let’s not spoil the moment for them… not just yet anyway.
“You have crowds of people in a state which has been reeling with a downtrodden economy swarming a courthouse to demand justice for a family & a woman no one even knows. It was akin to a lynch mob. Go home. Go to work. Take care of your families. I know this next comment makes me a traitor to my gender, but these old obese harpies who worship the HLN talking heads are some of the most pitiful creatures in existence.” – Kay
Let them carrying on clinging to the illusion of Jodi’s guilt if it makes them feel better… but the DP verdict they’re hoping for is still not gonna happen. Only Jodi gets to call the end game. Nobody else.
So with the dust still settling on this circus, all I do know is that this current verdict has set the reality of domestic violence & domestic abuse back several decades. We can only thank the jurors for that. Hung jury? Yes, maybe they should have been.
M1? So say we all? No we don’t.
Ok then peeps… we plough on regardless of everything in our quest for JUSTICE FOR JODI.
The 2nd half of this judicial farce – aka “the next phase” – starts today at 1.00 pm JT.
And yes, WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS!
Yesterday’s BS doesn’t changes that.
As always, be sure to leave your thoughts, comments & observations below…
SJ
Team Jodi
Don’t forget to check out the new Jodi drawings I added to the site this past weekend.
If you missed my post from this past weekend, the new “Survivor” t-shirts are now available. A portion of the profits generated from the sales will support other survivors of domestic violence, and go to Non-profit Domestic Violence organizations selected by Jodi.
If you would like to help Jodi directly by way of a financial donation via check or PayPal, click here (or click the Team Jodi link below) for further details.
Test.
Every time I try to post on this page, my post AND this page vanishes.
Well, the snafu let me get first for the very first time EVER! I don’t even want to know my prize though.
congrats Also Abused
times seem to be 3 hours off for me
Me too.
the website not working right…post are disappearing and the time of the post are mixed up….
yup me too! Hackers alive and well unfortunately….we need an alternative site to support one another…anyone have any ideas…how bout twitter maybe
Melvis, also etc. I wasn’t able to post at all yesterday. Occupy HLN on FB has been very active and I was able to get there yesterday…join there any way because they are very active in fighting this.
I hope this posts…..
Hi melvis, Could try it, I know there’s haters on facebook…
AGREE with your article 100%
Stan, the 3 hrs off is probably due to it being pst and I assume you are in est? Anyway, more importantly is this insane verdict. I feel so bad for Jodi and hopefully she will be aquitted on appeal.
Ya wanna set Nancy Disgrace off? Tweet about her precious Lucy being abused by TA! HA! I so hope you do!
I’m gonna be mean for a second…….her kids are too ugly!!! Just like that HAG they get their DNA from! She is one FUUUUUUGLY BEAST!! :O. There. I said it! 🙁
Oh, Ms Des, I seriously doubt the twins have a drop of DNA from that beast they refer to as mom. She was WAAAAAYYYYYY past the age of having any viable eggs left in her dried up ovaries. She most likely used donor eggs and most likely sperm from the husband.
At the time FUGLY BEAST was carrying the donor egg twins a friend of mine was doing donor egg IVF and was very into Fugly’s story.
It was an issue that was glossed over at the time as to how she was able to conceive at her age as it is statistically highly unlikely unless using a donor egg.
I bet the husband preferred the kids be hatched in a petri dish than being forced to have sex with her!
I read somewhere that her husband is not even the biological father of her twins.
Hey Team Jodi…… I went to Jodi’s art for sale, and this comment was there….
BG says:
May 7, 2013 at 10:38 pm
Stupid sheep. She slaughtered a person she will rott in hell.
TROLL!!!! PLZ DELETE!
Thank you it has been taken care of!!
I did some reading and found this and thought it was ironic that his throat was slit… or was this coincidence. I wonder if this is something that the friends would have done to help TA go to heaven since he was romping with JA in their bed so, could they have slit his throat to sacrafice TA and give a blood atonement for his adulterous sins.
Morning….
Testing…………. the page is as wacky as our judicial system………..
testing too!
Liftoff! 😀
Yeppo! Looks like all is well again
SJ
Team Jodi
thank god! I’m so lost without you guys…really….muahhhhh!
Basse helped me alot today, shout out to you my friend!!
Hey, friend. Glad to see you here!
wooo hooo! There you are!! Thanks again, your a lifesaver!!
I had a dream last night there was a news story that Jodi had killed herself! I hope that doesn’t come true!
Thankfully, I woke up and it isn’t real yet.
My gf and I were just talking about that. We hope court wasn’t cancelled bc she did something to herself…
I was thinking the SAME….BUT…since she was on “suicide protocol”….I assume she has access to nothing harmful. :/ but…where there’s a will…there’s a way. Man! 🙁 this whole thing…all around….so sad! Dammit! 🙁
KW I had a similar dream last night. Dreamt she killed herself in the psych ward of the jail.
Let me try this again, in response to SReyna’s post on the ever-disappearing page:
“He pushed and pushed and pushed an already mentally unstable woman to do the unthinkable.”
Where do you get the impression that “Miss Arias” (as you call her is mentally unstable? Is that from Dr. DeMarte? I suppose you’d think me and all other abused women are mentally unstable as well? I guess complex PTSD does signify a bit of mental instability. But we don’t have that BEFORE we’re abused. We develop it FROM being abused.
That needs to be rephrased to “He pushed and pushed and pushed a woman into mental instability where she had NO choice other than to do the unthinkable.”
More to SReyna:
“I’ve been doing a bit of research since yesterday and have been reading up on other women that have been sentenced to death in America and I DO NOT see any similarities between them and Mrs. Arias.”
I guess you haven’t done your research very well. Google this “abused women convicted of murder” and you’ll find PLENTY to research. Perhaps then you’ll understand AND see multiple similarities. While you’re at it, look up Barbara Sheehan, Wendy Maldonado and Susan Wright as well.
I agree 100%. By all accounts Jodi was quite normal before she met Travis who then pushed PPL and Mormonism on her. She was used and abused by that disgusting man (and I use that term loosely.) He was truly the worst thing that ever happened to Jodi.
I agree with your assessment. When I heard what JA’s mother said about her Jodi’s friend(s)[?] calling her in the middle of the night to say that she needed to get Jodi mental help, I thought this was from high school and something that went throughout Jodi’s teen years into adulthood. But based on what I read from Matt McCartney’s post, he had called Jodi’s parents and told them they needed to get Jodi help because she was suicidal. This was after she was with TA.
Of course, and her father specifically mentioned that she had been volatile for a year and a half before June 4, 2008. That’s exactly the length of time she was involved with Travis. Coincidence? Of course not. That’s how abused women are.
I cannot say this enough, even if you are not a suspect, as in Jodi’s parents, never, ever talk to the police without an attorney. It’s sad to see both parents, obviously under duress, make statements that are detrimental to Jodi.
agreed
There was no evidence whatsoever of mental instability prior to the killing.
Even afterwards, she suffered from trauma rather than a mental illness.
Exactly Also Abused! I couldn’t agree MORE! I guess women like us are “unstable”? Right! See, Law Enforcement has done so much for me! 12 years of seeing women like Jodi made me work harder! I have a Masters degree in Criminal Justice, wanted to retire as a Federal Magistrate, but I see how crooked (from the inside alone) our “system” is! I see it daily! I hear Mike Brooks, and he makes me SICK! Literally! Again, unless it happens to them Also Abused, they’ll NEVER know!! Unless their child is abused by a twisted freak like TA, they can’t have sympathy, or empathy! I don’t wish abuse on anyone……….EXCEPT TA’s FAN CLUB! Let it happen to them! I hope it does! Especially Nancy Disgrace! Her precious little Lucy!! Bet her story would change then!!
Jodi, BEAUTIFUL + SMART = HATE!!
COME ON! I’m ready to help her FIGHT! Remember Jodi, YOU ARE A SURVIVOR!! Don’t back down now……. There IS HOPE Hun!
Love the Team Jodi site!!
Good post, I also have Complex PTSD, and recognised it instantly. It is often mistaken for BPD.
Any radical feminists out there ready for a bit of action?
Picket this church and it’s blatant hypocrisy, it is time for political action.
Women of the world unite.
Talk to your collectives and get some action going!!! Hold a rally.
There is strength in physically united numbers.
Feminists and women’s rights groups have been quiet about Jodi Arias. Yet, today on Democracy Now, they were discussing the Cleveland hostage story and how abuse of women is rampant. But it has to be clear cut for it to be politically correct and discussed by feminists today. As a woman you have to be dragged off the street and chained into a dungeon for it to be considered abuse. Are feminists doing a disservice to women by continuing to foster the status quo – that women are and must continue to be victims. They have not spoken enough on women who refuse to be shoved into the category of victims, of women who fight back against their aggressors. Unfortunately, Jodi Arias is not politically correct and she may pay the price with her life. But you know, if Jodi believes that freedom awaits her in death, then her only judgment comes from herself, and god or the creator or the dharma or Jesus, or whatever she embraces as her redemption.
They wouldn’t help me either, all those feminist and women’s rights groups. They wouldn’t help me when a judge ordered me to disclose my home address to my abuser, while in an address confidentiality program. If I win my appeal about that, they’ll then rise up out of the woodwork to talk about it because it will be a landmark decision that will impact victims all over the US. They only get involved when it’s (a) media-worthy and (b) a woman is dead or has been kidnapped. They’re all about visibility and donations. The whole system is now corrupt.
I hope you win your appeal.
Absolutley AA,
WHY wouldn’t Jodi have PTSD as much as the policemam would have after having to kill some one?
Jodi is the last person I could possiibly think of doing ANYTHING like that unless she was struggling to save her life.
Even the so-called women that were supposed to be women activist have been absolutley
hateful to a woman that has never been in any kind of trouble before. I believe her when she says she was surprised that the juror’s verdict was premeditation.
Jodi couldn’t have done that unless she knew she was going to die and she was only protecting herself
ans STILL wanted to protect Travis’s reputation.
I also think that Jodi wanted to say what she wanted to and it didn’t hurt her t all. IMO
All of the talking heads are pissed because she took the wind out of their sail.
I think her interview was probably like I said her wanting to say something and I don’t blame her at all.
I’m sure the Travis family and so called friends were all over talking about it,
They have been and we know most of them didn’t even get to meet Jodi before this.
She knew Travis better than his whole family and friends.
I HOPE out of this all of the corruption is brought out in the light.
Some times it takes some BIG to open people eyes!
I ONLY wish nothing but the best for her.
Maybe not mentally unstable, but hyper vigilant.
Hello all.
Why did Jodi give that interview right after the verdict?
I don’t think that was such a hot idea…
Maybe because she just wanted to talk before the state of AZ owns her rights to do so?
I think you are correct, AA> I think the moment the verdict came in, she knew it was all over and that it was the last time she would get to use her voice.
🙁
I have watched several high profile trials on TV, and by the way Court TV was educational and
informative not this mess we have now. There has always been someone to speak for the
defendant, either their lawyer or a defense attorney example the Anthony family had a lawyer,
G. Zimmerman s attorney will speak for him once in a while. Jodie had nobody, and the
media was bombarded with Travis Alexander people.The only one who could speak for
Jodie was Jodie.There should have been a spokesperson to go on Nancy Grace, JVM etc.
to defend her side.
While she’s still “relevant” on the big networks… Don’t forget, poor George Zimmerman’s trial is about to be the next-big-thing Trial of the Century ‘hot commodity’. If Jodi has/had anything meaningful or important to her that she wanted to get out, I reckon she knew her time to speak was now. And honestly… Jodi wouldn’t be wrong in thinking that way. Isn’t that awful? And our “News Media” is a sad state of fucked up affairs!!
Her soon to be diminishing “relevance” may work in her favor during her appeal if she gets the DP. The media will be focused on Zimmerman case and appeals are not the stuff of TV coverage. In the appeal phase, the attorneys go back to playing with their papers again. They don’t get to pose for the cameras or sign autographs. The motions, the trial transcripts, the admitted exhibits make up the record on appeal. The defense lined up their ducks during pre trial and trial by filing their motions re Brady violations, juror and prosecutorial misconduct. They knew that in the trial court they would never get any of their motions granted, but they were setting up the record.
her defense team should have been with her to be sure she didn’t do something like that. i think defense has let her down in so many ways, see posts on previous page
When I mentioned poor defense before I was jumped on. They could have done better in many ways
Her defense team did not know about this interview. The reporter admitted himself that he didn’t speak to her lawyers. Don’t blame them for something they knew nothing about. I am sure they are not happy about what transpired.
To her detriment, Jodi may still be very naïve when it comes to the legal system and the media, despite having 5 years of experience with both.
I dont want to put the defense down but I do wish they would have hit some things harder. Like people who have survived gsw to frontal lobe. More investigations into walmart returns. Finding the gun in the desert. They could have called other experts….like a hair colorist….and a manicurist. I pray this gets reversed…..
Did they find a gun in the desert?
Good day all. Today’s not going to be hard. Stay strong friends and may Jodie find the strength to ensue this.
Typos !! It’s going to be a hard day .
Boy, I wish this had been brought out during the trial:
3 signs of a controlling husband in bed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixDcjQMASWw
This was mentioned in the up thread earlier: if we established a defense fund for her, would that money be safe from the Alex family? Does Jodi know we are all here? I would contribute as well. Still can’t believe this happened, a bunch of sheep and cowards? but they all have it coming, Karma is a bitch!
All I keep thinking is if I had been on that damn jury I would’ve dug my heels in and stood my ground no matter who was brow-beating me to conform!! Wusses!
WORD. They keep calling the jury “brave” for their decision; brave is what they’d have seen if either of us were on the jury, Tanne. I would never have wavered.
You’re both right. I guess people like us never make it onto the jury. The jury selection experts are apparently very good profilers. If any of us answered the questions honestly, they would automatically give us the boot. So it goes…
You have to be willing to give the DP in a DP case, ie you cannot be morally against it. That sets the stage for who can be on the jury; only already biased individuals.
OMG I didn’t know that, you mean they ask them first?
WOW!
Yes. I don’t know the specifics, but they can’t be anti-DP
Had jury duty on Wednesday. Those that didn’t believe law enforcement is always telling truth (or has no more weight than any other witness) or that a witness that has a long criminal record cannot necessarily be believed to be telling the truth if it is to their benefit were excused. The people that were on the case (drug case) were two that said they didn’t think they could be partial to the defendant due to their years of working with law enforcement, another guy who said “I would love to be on this jury and has also stated that his brother was addicted to drugs at 17 and was in rehab, and a girl who said she never did drugs but had many friends addicted or that had died and it would be difficult to be impartial (she was instructed by the judge that she had to assume he was innocent – can you do that – I guess so) and she made the jury. The defendant was African-American. A potential juror (also African-American) who said she lived in an area where there were a lot of drugs but understands the problem – of course was excused. Their was an African-American who was a naturalized citizen that made the jury though who didn’t come across to me as impartial. All other African-Americans were excused from jury duty.
I would be relentless and to hell with any consequences.
Brave? They’re cowards.
Basse, it was me that responded to your post on psychology today. Just wanted you to know 🙂
Take a look at this Brainwashed idiot, I received it in my email this morning:
Hi Anonymous,
(‘BLANK’) has commented on: “Is Jodi Arias a Sociopath?”
Subject: Thankfully a Guilty of Premeditated Murder-1 for Jodi
I believe when this article was written more information of Jodi’s childhood
had not come to light. When her parents interviews by Det. Flores came
out…Bang…there is was out of the mouths of her own parents. Jodi was
already showing aberrant behavior.
After the pot bust at 14 she doubled down on her secret life and her
relationship with her parents was severed for all intensive purposes. Her
parents admit..she became secret and paranoid.
Secret and paranoid were hallmarks of her relationship with Travis.
Jodi must have realized that she had proclivities that her parents would
object and she wasn’t going to stop them so, moving to her grandparents meant
that they couldn’t spy on her anymore.
Quitting school was the start of her downward spiral. She had no goals and
could not plan for the future. She would have to work as a waitress and
better professions would be out of her reach. She never took any steps to get
an education but continued to find men who were pot dealers or one who was an
alcoholic and her life continued as a waitress with financial issues always
pending.
I believe meeting Travis gave her the idea that if she could social climb,
snag him, her waitress days would be over. She could also climb the ladder in
PPL with his help and save herself the trouble of really working hard by
skipping head on the coat tails of Travis who looked successful and told her
he made six figures.
Sex became her calling card when she learned Travis was not that experienced.
She wasn’t the first woman to use sex to get her man. The problem was LDS
came along for the ride and had a hold on Travis. So, she joins LDS to get
that out of the way.
After Travis broke up with her..she Lied to her father and said she was
moving to Mesa to Marry Travis..and there’s her BIG Fantasy that started the
ball rolling on her obsession with Travis. Jodi’s life went downhill from
there because she got desperate, more in debt, became risky with her
stalking,etc. and blew it with everyone in Mesa even Travis.
After that email…he warns her he’s going to tell her parents about her
sociopath behaviors. He’s also going to tell everyone else..PPL. Jodi’s dad
said she was about to claim bankruptcy due to her debt. Jodi still owned
Travis for the broken BMW.
Had Travis told everyone the things she had done in Mesa..and her parents
that would have rocked her world including her involvement with PPL and LDS
for potential suitors. She was afraid of becoming ostracized, humiliated and
especially her parents finding out the kind of life she had been
leading..stalking,slashing tires,etc.
That why 2 days later she steals the gun and kills him. She could not risk
being discovered for behaving like a sociopath and as long as Travis
lived…he could expose her anytime to all those people and she would have
been ostracized by everyone at PPL and LDS.
Her jealousy about Cancun was minor compared to saving her reputation &
keeping her parents unaware and in the dark about her life of failures. She
wasted years on Travis and came home in debt and demoralized but still Jodi
always blames everyone else for her predicaments in life and why she lies and
blames Travis for her having to kill him.
The article he spoke of, Basse, was Pitchforks post less than a week ago.
The idiot believed what he wanted to believe of course. Don’t they ALL.
“Travis was not that experienced,” out of the mouths of babes: cream pie, tossed salad, shoot a load on your face.
Travis said , “you make the sounds of a 12 year old having an orgasm for the first time”
Whoever posted this Heather, is an uneducated dumbass asshole to say the least.
Tanne, Basse, and Barbara,
I totally agree. I am so disturbed, disgusted, dismayed over the complete UNfairness of this trial. Anyone with a fraction of common sense could see that this was the most blatantly biased trial ever.
Even The people who side with the prosecution should be able to see the unfairness if they paused and thought for themselves rather than give in to mob mentality. If they could just imagine for a moment if they were on trial that they would expect a fair one. Or imagine for a moment if she were their friend, sister, mother, etc. wouldn’t they demand fair treatment and a jusry that wasn’t tainted?
The tainting of this jury is so obvious, it’s very scary to see this happening in the U.S. Our justice system has been flawed for a long time and it’s getting worse. I cannot believe a jusry in a highly sensationalized trial was not sequestered.
I was hoping so hard for a mistrial. I am so sad that our courts only care about winning instead of truth. I don’t think jury members should be allowed to profit on any of this.
ITA!! But as the head admin posted….that’s what I’ve said ALL along (in regards to the jury learning from what happened to the Casey jurors)!!! No one wants that! They were fearful….cowards!! 🙁 I don’t care which side if the fence you fall on….whatever you “think” happened…..this was in…NOOOOOOOO effin way…premed!!! Convict if you will, but premed is a load of bullsh*t!!!!! I’m sooooo steaming mad about it all!!! The fact that THIS jury was NOT sequestered…is a TRAVESTY!!! Now, my friends, THAT is the REAL INJUSTICE!!! WTF?? 🙁
They basically say she stole her grandpas gun and Travis’gun. Premed and felony murder. What fucktards! Sorry for my language but it is infuriating. If they all agreed it was premeditated why even consider felony murder? How does that work. I so hope they did something wrong. Something that will cause this to be overturned. How can they convict her of 2 different counts of murder! Sheriously I think the attorneys need to check into this. Obviously the Jury did not follow instructions. They were told to start at the top….m1 and then go from there until it was unanimous.
I must say I believe the “experts” hired by the defense contributed to this guilty verdict. Dr. Samuels ended up looking like a complete idiot because he did not re-administer the PTSD test. As a psychiatric health care professional I believe he really blew it. ALV came off poorly in the stand as well, her comments to JM were very inappropriate and she may have appeared disrespectful to the jury. Personally I think that’s were this case needed to be air-tight and it was a fail. If I were Jodi I’d be pissed that they screwed it all up.
Granted my law degree isn’t from a common law country, but when you say keeping the money donated to her, to cover her defense costs, from his family, I think of a trust. 🙂
Kind of freaked out about the dream I had last night about Jodi. Read above to see what it was.
KW; that is my fear as well. I pray she doesn’t do it. But if she does, I hope she leaves the truth out there, so that those responsible can be pursued.
Yeah. 🙁
She is being watched like a hawk so there’s little fear of that happening. However, I would not blame the poor girl ONE bit if she did kill herself. I totally understand how she feels. Abused women NEVER win. Once we speak out about abuse, we are fucked for the rest of our lives. We might as well kill ourselves because we get ALL sorts of shit thrown at us. And we’re truly not able and not ready to face it.
You’re SO right AA. I had been told for years, by counselors, that once I was OUT of my 2nd marriage, second abusive husband, that “give it a few years, you will be fine. Wait until your kids are adults, they’ll see the ‘truth”, and despite not seeing them for over 4 years, (and maybe 6-7 times in the 5 years after that because he was still in a foreign country and lawyers wanted money my family and I just didn’t have), they’ll come back to you and everything will work out”.
It didn’t, I just recently found out my youngest daughter can not have children because of the constant bacterial infections, plus herpes, she’s dealt with since she was 9 when “he” took her. I’m sure you all can guess how she got those infections, but ME?? I was “crazy”, even got accused at one point of having “Manchausens syndrome” because my son was born with my genetic disorder and was severely ADHD. “He” took him to an “expert” psych who was known for not agreeing with diagnoses of ADHD, she ended up INCREASING my Son’s medications. My ex even avoided arrest after showing up drunk to pick the kids up from school, and threw my son against a cement wall,..it “helps” when the school is in the county and my ex’s brother was the Sherrif…
Sorry, just upset about this trial and what it means, upset about my daughter….
i am so sorry about your daughter.
This may not be read by you or anyone else since it is now 5/10, but I just want to tell you how sorry I am for those things that happened in your life. I have had similar (and deadly) things happen to my offspring through 3 generations and unless you have been there, you ain’t been there. I know you understand what I’m saying.
If you ever read this, here’s a big ole Tennessee hug from a (harmless) 70yr old great-grandaddy. 🙂
My only advice is to not let them win and for you to turn to Jesus Christ who knows your heart and pain all to well, and will always be there for you. Get a bible, I would HIGHLY recommend the old King James bible as there is none better. Open it to the book of John and begin reading. Church-going or ‘religious’ things are NOT important at this point, and are not helpful. Read your bible and know God. I, and Jesus, have our arms around you, ma’am. You will feel us after you begin to read, I promise. May God bless you.
Good Morning…again. This site is starting to reming me of Goundhog’s Day……..
*reminding*
If you really want to know why the verdict was the way it was, listen to this short video of what dismissed juror No. 8 had to say:
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2366976303001
I think this tells it all. The jurors passed the time in the jury room (and let’s face it, they were there a LOT during chamber conferences, various hearings, etc.) looking at their personal devices, their iPods, iPhones and tablets, he said. Plus, they chatted a lot with one another and became like “family”. And he wasn’t at all surprised, at all, by the verdict. It’s what he knew was coming. And why is that? Read between the lines.
WTF…………….they spent their time looking at their devices???????// Ipads and smart phones??? WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF
Those ought to be confiscated and looked at.
Those should have been confiscated. Man, if Barry Goldwater were alive he’d be SO PISSED that shit like this went down in his home state of AZ!
WTH is right! Unbelievable! And how did he “know” it was coming?? Because they had been discussing it in advance perhaps??
exactly right…this POS I hope he goes to jail for that DUI offense!
I hope Juanabee prosecutes him…
They will let him off now… after he is one of the good ole boys. SO much crap in this trial I am ashamed of the American justice system…and so it goes down the drain along with the economy, the freedoms,…everything…America is becoming more and more of a mess every day.
I agree, I can’t believe how many weirdos stood outside the courthouse so long just so they could be part of a disturbed cheering mob and a chance to be on tv. What a circus!
I also can’t believe how biased the ‘news’ has become and their obsession with gathering a mob thru social media. Awful!
I feel nauseous every time I see another quote praising the “brave jury” or how their faith in justice was “restored finally after OJ and Casey”. I saw that one a few minutes ago, how disturbing!!
Each trial and each case is unique and deserves the utmost unbiased fairness.
There should be laws against the media and how they are allowed to represent the accused. How is anyone meant to get a fair trial when the media taints every possible jury before the case has even gone to court. The jury should have been sequestered there is no doubt about it. I have no doubt that each and everyone of those jurors went home turned on the TV and watched all the coverage. It would be very hard for them to not have.
My heart is heavy for Jodi today, I cant imagine how she must feel. I hope she can bring herself out of this dark place , stop contemplating her death and find enough courage to fight for her life.
lol…that would be hilarious, but I have to agree that he will probably have this charges dismissed after his comments.
He’ll feel the wrath.
How did Juror No. 8 know what jury would do unless they spoke about it among
themselves?
WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF indeed Renee!!!!!
He has the NERVE to admit they were all over their electronic devices???Does he want to make us believe they were simply checking the weather or thei e-mails or sth????
And how on Earth he ”knew” it was coming???Cause the evidence of premed was just NOT there??Unless what he really implied was that they’ve been talking all along,sharing their opinions on what an awful bi*ch Jodi is and how good it would feel to convict her!
I hope remorse hits each and every one of them for wrongfully convicting this woman!
*Cause the evidence of premed was just NOT there.(Period)
APPEAL
appeal on multiple, multiple grounds
all very serious
governor intervening in the trial, during jury deliberations
assigning incompetent judge to case; we all know the details
police criminality; hiding evidence, etc
prosecutor criminality; witness tampering, collusion with flores, etc
fortunately the trial was televised so it provides an appeal record
one lesson perhaps
the defense when they saw pickles in action, her de facto malicious rulings on evidence, then immediately yell out their objection
eg jm cutting off a defense witness’s answer during cross examination
CUTTING OFF WITNESS ANSWER, YOUR HONOR !!!
it’d embarass stephens, but she couldn’t do much about it
in open court confronts and challenges her to continue with such rulings
some criminal trial lawyers are a lot more openly aggressive towards wayward, incompetent trial judges
it’d be better instead of maintaining the pretense of normalcy before a possibly inexperienced jury
it’d signal to a jury that a judge was acting improperly for whatever reason, maybe simple incompetence, or maybe a prosecutor’s judge, who will allow all sorts of prosecutorial misbehavior during the trial
Shw sometimes cut off witnesses, too, though.
spring
“Shw sometimes cut off witnesses, too, though.”
who is Shw ?
w is next to e on the keyboard so i presume your typo indicates you meant to type she ie jw ?
depends on the questions and answers etc
it’s ok for an attorney to interrupt a witness’s if their answer is not responsive ie not related to the question, or starts off ok, but wanders far afield , including into an area they want to talk about
question: where were you standing ?
answer: in front of the bank, and i saw a blue sedan drive past, it continued a little then stopped in front off the grocery store and out got the mr brown the defendant holding a shotgun
he had a wild expression on his face
but what is NOT ok is too interrupt a relevant answer, because you don’t want the jury to hear where the answer is going
they heard the question
stephens allowed jm to repeatedly cut off relevant responsive answers, thus denying the jury what the witness was about to say, and thus in the process jm was allowed to build up a distorted account of events
it’s like grabbing words from all that you’ve been saying for the last two days and pasting selected words together to form a story
that’s a bit extreme but you get the picture
EXPERT WITNESSES
stephens also allowed jm to generate a hypothetical scenario, containing one or more premises which did not conform to the true situation, then ask a yes/no question on this fabricated hypothetical, then conflate that the judicially ordered yes/no answer in a damaging way with the real situation
stephens allowed jm to do this time after time
when the witnesses protested about the distortion created, or the confusion in the question which jm had deliberately created, jm asked the judge to order the witness to answer yes or no
stephens invariably ordered the witness to anwer only yes or no, and thereby distort the testimony
Agreed! I always felt like the Judge and Martinez had something going on. Helping him win the case so he can get promoted? Something very wrong which ended up effecting the trial JM would never get away with that in the real world. Hmmmm……….
AA…
Juror 8 also said that he sat in the public area to see if the jurors would end voting the same way that he would…and that was guilty of 1st degree murder…all along juror 8 was for prosecution…
Obviously, he was, truthseeker. And also obviously, he had some insight into how the other jurors felt.
He was probably texting them, and they were probably texting each other every day.
sounds like he’s unwittingly done jodi a big favor ?
MISTRIAL !!!
That last comment he made is so telling. Why would he know what was coming. I thought as a juror you are supposed to hear all the testimony and deliberate before reaching a verdict.
Something (many things) are seriously wrong.
I think all electronic devices &computers of jurors should be checked for any violations of the court admonitions. It would be interesting to see the results. Worth a try, I would say.
Oh, does this sound crazy? In a case I was reading about a defense atty, after trial was able to do just this.
I saw this interview and thought WTF…..he knew it…..HOW!!! Those must have been some interesting jig saw puzzles and crossword puzzles!
PK i was just going to post along the same lines
if the jury had or used their cell phones, or any similar electronic devices during their deliberations, to me, that means a clear cause for a mistrial
it should be a simple matter to check
the judge can issue order to all jurors and then to the cell phone companies etc
the arizona judiciary should be able to deal with it before it is sent to the us supreme court
PK post the link to the article you were reading, or citation to the case
“In a case I was reading about a defense atty, after trial was able to do just this.”
good find
WOW……just WOW!!!!!
If Martinez uses Jodi’s interview from last night, Nurmi & Wilmott should use this tape of this Juror #8 interview. Hell, they should use it anyway. It should be possible to see what the jurors were looking at for the last 4 months, shouldn’t it? If they find anything, wouldn’t that be enough for a mistrial or retrial? The defense should be all over this interview and collect and examine all the jurors “devices.” The implications of this interview should allow this action. But, don’t let the damn police check the devices.
And, Juror #8 should be made to explain how he KNEW what the verdict would be.
Yesss! They should be able to use that video! There has been so much biased nature in this circus it’s shocking.
If only the ones joining in the mob mentality could just sit back a moment and take it all in from an objective point of view, they would see it, too!
This trial has such a huge list of things that should allow cause for the verdict to be thrown out and/or retrial. If only they could get a change of venue.
I don’t trust the crazy Sheriff there or the judges & prosecutors. This was NOT about truth for them! It was about publicity for themselves, seeing dollar signs in their future, win, win, win, money, money!
I hope the legal people who need to know this, see it. This is ridiculous, totally ridiculous. Those devices should have been confiscated. Ugh!! More crap is going to come out as the days go by.
I was listening to the news on the Southern California radio station KFI today around 12:30 p.m., and the newswoman said that she thought the jurors knew what was going on in the media during the trial. She said “come on, how could they NOT know”. She was convinced they were not truthful about keeping away from the media and others, and not discussing the trial.
I hope Jodi can hang on. She must feel just awful, so awful, but I hope she can allow for the possibility of things changing for her.
You know, there’s such a thing as “psychological torture” and that’s what the media is doing. Travis died once, but these people are killing her over and over and over. They can’t get enough of doing every kind of damage to her that they can. At least it was over for TA. It will never be over for Jodi.
To me, they really are an insane lynch mob. If they could get their hands on her and string her up, they would, but since they can’t they are going to kill her emotionally, psychologically and every other way they can short of with their own hands.
I consider what they are doing to her “cruel and unusual” punishment. This something new, a new way to torture someone because of technology.
They act like suddenly, because the HUMAN jurors “found her guilty”, that makes it so. Well guess what? Those jurors are a bunch of flawed, sinful, imperfect humans, not mind readers, definitely not God. Nothing like God. I’m convinced they weren’t even remotely adequate jurors, and that they were watching HLN and lying about it to the judge and the court. The media act like they can read her mind and they act like they are God, each one of them does. As if they have the right to judge every single solitary molecule of her being.
There isn’t anything they didn’t look at and criticize. Her most intimate private parts were put on display, and then they attacked her with their copout verdict. It would be hard to think of anything worse.
What they are doing is unending torture and no one has the right.
This site is having a mucho tough time.
Right!
Guten Tag Alle! I hope everyone is hanging in there today.:-)
Hi everyone, I just want to share what I do.. I help victims document their abuse… to learn more goto http://www.documenttheabuse.com
Time’s Up! is a priceless book for victims that teaches them how to safely document the abuse, save their life and find proper justice. The Evidentiary Abuse Affidavit (EAA) is a document/video the victim creates to document their abuse and used to insure appropriate justice.
http://documenttheabuse.com/EAAProducts.html
If anyone is a victim of abuse, they need this info…I only wish Jodi had this tool…sadly it didnt come out until 2010.
if anyone here is interested in learning more, connect with me on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/Traceyandrewsmurphy
Praying for a miracle right now!!!
Tracey, when alyce laviolette gave her testimony, i looked for relevant material and came across this wikipedia article which i only skimmed over but on the strength of that alone thought it was very good and very much in line with alyce’s ideas on the more detailed nature of domestic violence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_domestic_violence
as with all wikipedia entries there are numerous links to more research
wikipedia is almost always very current
as appropriate written and critiqued by world experts
i like it, except it’s sometimes its entries are vast
nowadays it uses an excellent contents box to narrow or direct ones searches
And let’s give some credit to the amazing Susan Murphy Milano, one of the greatest advocates of our time for domestic violence, who was the mastermind behind developing the EAA (because of the Stacy Peterson/Drew Peterson case), and who lost her life to cancer late last year because she didn’t have health insurance. Out of the kindness of her heart, while she was battling cancer but it wasn’t made public yet, she sent me the EAA for free a couple of years ago.
That being said, as of this time, the EAA has not proven helpful in some cases. It appears to be a good tool that could be helpful if a woman is killed by an abuser. Otherwise, it hasn’t proven helpful YET.
Also Abused, I am thrilled you know about Susan…She was a close friend to me, mentored me for over 3 years and taught me everything I need to know to carry on and represent her work.
This is one of the latest events I did to educate law enforcement about the EAA.
http://imaginepublicity.com/2013/04/25/tracey-murphy-crime-survivor-event-eaa/
My next step is training the Orange County Sheriffs department so they can actually get proper justice for victims of abuse/crime.
God Bless Susan Murphy Milano— I miss her so much though I know she is in a happy and peaceful place with her mother who she tried so hard to protect. http://www.susanmurphy-milano.com/
http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2012/01/abcs-show-private-practice-sends.html here’s a radio show and blog that Susan did regarding my story and the EAA. http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2012/01/abcs-show-private-practice-sends.html
Here’s another one of the shows I did with Susan Murphy Milano_ http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-survive-relationship-during.html
and another show on Crime Wire with Susan and Dennis Griffen…http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2012/05/crime-wire-surviving-abusive.html
Here’s the biography of Susan Murphy Milano… http://www.holdingmyhandthroughhell.com/
http://murphymilanojournal.blogspot.com/2012/09/holding-my-hand-through-hell-officially.html
I did all of that, without any handbook, even taped all the phone calls with threats, him laughing about shutting our phones & power off, (he called the power & phone companies with my social security number and told them I had DIED!!)
It took me 3 years, but I finally changed my social. Oh, and his family was paying $300/HOUR for the best divorce attorney in the south, who got EVERYTHING thrown out!! But she eventually “fired” my ex and apologized, crying, to me. He had neglected to tell her a few things-like the parental evaluator was ENGAGED to his SISTER!! Well, that and the Judge being best friends with his Dad didn’t help my case either….
Thank you Jodi for brining people like us together. Through your suffering we realized that there is still hope for mankind. Those so called “Christ lovers” who pray for your death shall receive death to their own souls.
Stay strong and it is not over yet!
Roak– I was looking for the verse in the bible that says something close to what you just said…Do you know it by chance?
Reminds me of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, aka Az. If we can find 50 people with “empathy” then Az will be saved. I guess this website has at least 100 people with love in their hearts
Read Matthew chapters 5 and 6.
Then read the whole thing ..:)
Matthew chapters 5 through 7. Jesus speaking here. Use a King James version Bible for the best translation. Do it right here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%205&version=KJV
Amen, so be it ….
I wanted to say, again, all this lands squarely on the Judges shoulders!
She screwed this up big time, she needs to be removed from the bench. Not allowing evidence that would of supported Jodi’s side of the story, constantly over ruling objections from the defense, allowing that POS DA to intimidate and badger witnesses, and the biggest one…..NOT SEQUESTERING THIS JURY
This is the one person who had control over all this, and she allowed all this to happen. The defense did the best they could do with what they had. I mean, really, you totally discredit the ME report, and jury STILL finds her guilty.
Thats called TAINTED folks
Is there a petition to remove the judge from the bench?
from my understanding you have to live in the state of Arizona to do that, but if there’s a way we can all do that, I’m in!
Damn, live in Missouri
Mo here too
I live in Az. I cant stand her but I LOATHE juano
Oh I’d remove her alright, throw her onto a rubbish tip.
Melvis, she really couldn’t sequester the jury. It’s been decades since juries were sequestered in AZ. Let’s not place the blame where it doesn’t belong.
So why was the defense petitioning her to do that if it can’t be done…seems very odd to me that the Judge couldn’t sequester this jury.
Just curious, is it that she CAN’T do it, or that they just typically DON”T do it
Ah exactly, Melvis, I think she could, but how can we forget she is biased, so she wouldn’t.
Theoretically, she COULD do it … as in, she HAD the power to order it. A judge has crazy power in his/her own court room. But her bosses and the state of AZ would have jumped ALL over her ass for it and the high judge of that court would not have authorized it.
So true. I couldn’t believe the way that judge overruled the defense team and allowed Juan Martinez to abuse everyone whenever he felt like it.
Scary, that even a trial that was televised with so many watching was nothing but injustice.
Jean Casarez reported that the interview that Jodi gave after the verdict had been set up before the trial even began. Jodi gave her word to the interviewer and did not want to go back on her word. JW and KN tried to get Jodi to not do it, but Jodi insisted. There were harsh words between Jodi and her lawyers. I can tell miss Casarez has some empathy for Jodi. She also reported that she spoke to mrs. Arias( Jodi’s mother ) and Jodi’s grandmother after the verdict was read. She said that Jodi’s mother was sobbing uncontrollably but the grandmother remained strong and stoic. Miss casarez asked if Jodi’s mother would ask for mercy and to spare her daughters life but mrs. arias said she did not know yet. She said she did not know what to do. As much as I can not stand the HLN talking heads, I do have some respect for Miss casarez, she was the only one who ever tried to at least have an ounce of compassion for Jodi. I am really upset by this injustice, it is a disgrace. As we all have agreed upon, this was a jury that only cared about their own skins and did not want the lynch mob to come after them. PERIOD. I am in Jodi’s corner and I will always be TEAM JODI!!! I love all of you guys! Big MEOW!!! xoxoox Jessie
I think Casarez does feel for Jodi and her family. And if some people are going to say its because Jean and Jodi are both Hispanic/Mexican, so FUCKING WHAT!!!!
As I said, the mob has been turning against her since she said Nurmi’s closing argument was authentic. I think she does have compassion for Jodi. Only a heartless bastard wouldn’t. I know a few pro-TA people who truly feel for her.
After seeing that video of her slinking around trying to get to speak to the Arias family after the verdict was read, sorry but I don’t have much respect for Jean Casarez.
Jean is as pathetic as they come. She changes with whatever way the wind is blowing.
Me neither, I do not like most of what Miss casarez says, I was only trying to relay to you guys what I saw. And she did seem to have at least an ounce of sympathy unlike any other reporters or talking head. Love ya, meow. Jessie xoxox
My comment that anyone who has no compassion for Jodi is a heartless bastard still stands.
I’ll second that KW!!
Amen
Hi Jessie 😉
I didn’t see the interview yet that you referenced so perhaps she tried to come across with more empathy than usual in that instance, I don’t know. I’d like to see it, I almost wonder if she was pretending in order to get Jodi to open up more? Thanks for sharing about it, I’ll look for it ;).
From how I have seen her (Casarez) behave on the HLN shows she has definitely not shown any compassion or empathy for Jodi in those settings, just like you I don’t like the things she typically says. She quickly jumps onto their bandwagon of guilty before proven like all the other “talking heads” do.
This version of sensationalized “news” combined with social media, very biased opinions, creating multiple very biased “juries” on their shows, omg so so so disturbing I can hardly believe it! Then when these very biased reporters get a chance for an interview they kiss up to their prey! Yuck!
Hi Truly, I agree, I think even IF any of these reporter do have any real compassion for Jodi they are too afraid to show it. Just like the jurors they are afraid of the mob turning on them. It is really sickening. O.K. It is almost time for trial to start again. Poor Jodi is on suicide watch! I am anxious to see how she is today. I am so worried for her. Anyhow, Lots of love and hugs to you! , Jessie
Excuse me, could someone tell me what J time is? Thank you. 🙂
>>> CLICK FOR LIVE FEED from 1:00 pm JT <<<
SD….which live feed are you using???…wild is not airing it on AZ…
Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial 2h ago
Just passing through palm springs. Wild will be in los angeles soon.
http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jodi-arias-live-stream.html
I usually click on the one on this site.
I tried to click on that…the words are there but no clicker…
I know! There are gremlins lurking methinks. 🙂 🙁 🙂
SD…they just announced on HLN that trial resumes at 4:00 pm Eastern time…which will be 1:00 pm Arizona time…
Thanks, truth!
Im guessing judges time.
Thank you, Gn.
”Jodi Time” = Pacific Standard
JT = Jodi Time
Yep, JT is an excellent expression!
On my desktop Jodi also has its own clock (gadget), I put the name Jodi on it.
This week I also held book burning. I had no candles in the house,
I thought I’d take just a book. Went to the basement and found the most ultimate one.
A book titled “The Satanic Verses of Joseph Smith.”
I thought, kind that pray for the death of another, you may burn.
I just lost another post…guess I’m not meant to post my thoughts today.
That’s been happening to me since yesterday. I think someone’s messing with the site. It appears its fixed…they know they can’t silence us, so they mess with our support forum.
Test
Why not have a surprise lie detector test when the juror’s arrive today? I mean why NOT? I respect the jury’s decision IF they weren’t watching the news. The jury not being sequestered never sat well with so many people AND the defense. So why not a lie detector test? Why would they object to it if they haven’t been watching the news or HLN?
Great thinking! I think lie detectors should be used on a lot of people, witnesses and prosecutors included! Think of all the witnesses who embellished stories and have had enless amounts of social media at their fingertips and HLN on their tv’s!
I was so shocked that this jury wasn’t sequestered, wow, it threw me for a swirly loop big time! I have followed this more than my husband has and when I told him about that he didn’t believe me, so shocking! Thinking of the, watching tv and plugged into their devices, social media, etc, so so so upsetting.
Everyone should pause and imagine how they would feel if they had to face such an unfair trial!
so the drunkard Juror 8 just threw the rest of the jury under the bus?? This is grounds for the judge to throw their VERDICT out—they did not abide by the admonitions.
I don’t even have words to express the devastation that I feel. This is what happens when cameras are allowed inside of a courtroom, and when a jury is not sequestered. Cameras should never be allowed inside of a courtroom, and a jury in a high profile case (especially a death penalty case) should be sequestered. My husband and I have been talking about this trial for a long time now. He told me they would come back with M1. I of course thought manslaughter at most. This morning I asked him if he were on the jury would he have voted for M1 and he told me that he would have voted for acquittal and would not have swayed. I said – then why did you think M1 would be the verdict and his replay, “they weren’t sequestered, and the media was too biased. He’s right.
It is DOWNPOURING with lightning and thunder here.
God is on the warpath and the angels are joining us all in shedding tears for the “shell shock” we all bore witness to yesterday.
All media venues, in all shapes and forms, have given me PTSD with their onslaught of coverage of this tragedy. Every welcome screen, every newspaper in the local deli or 7-11 or supermarket have capitalized on this trial. For my own mental stability and self-preservation I boycotted ALL news channels on television for the past three weeks. I have never “tweeted” nor do I have a facebook page. The only “haters” I ran into were the ones who infiltrated our sanctuary. However, I am surrounded by individuals who refused early on and continue to refuse today to entertain any of the truths of this matter. I feel great sympathy for people who “know it all” and who look to others for permission to voice or act on their beliefs and choices.
Every one of the “fucking awesome” family members are my God given solace. This sanctuary is where sanity prevails and knowledge and humanity rule.
Outside the confines of this protected place, the world should be ashamed of itself. The collective bodies that make up humanity should be appalled. The media shit storm participants and all the fame whores and “friends” who have contributed to the parody of a trial, would be well versed to remember Julius Caesar and Brutus, and Benedict Arnold and most importantly Judas. What goes around comes around. There will be a reckoning one day. There will be Karma. As Tonya’s card said, the wheel will come around.
Mr. Tony….have no fear from the post above, I’m getting my boots on as I type…. 😉
The only place to go now is UP. We’ve reached the “bottom” so to speak. All of the choices for sentencing are abhorrent. LWOP is barbaric and the death penalty is MURDER. We are at bottom. The only way to go now is UP…
SO…everyone – I’ve got my cheerleader pom poms ready – I’ve got my diet coke, massive amounts of junk food and I have even changed my atomic clock to be on Pacific time because my self which includes my brain (so I tell myself) is too upset today to have to calculate the 3 hour difference in all these posts!!!
Let’s ROCK and blow the fucking NAZI state of ARIZONA THE FUCK UP….
Massengil, Flowers and every fucking fair weathered friend that sold their soul to the devil for 15 minutes of “fame” this is to all of you:
GO PLAY LEAPFROG WITH A UNICORN you pathetic cowards….THIS AIN’T OVER TILL THE FAT LADY SINGS SHITTARDS – AND I DON’T HEAR A CHOIR!!!!!!!!
Janeen, you definitely sound like you’re in your “take no prisoners”, “piss on their graves” mindset!LOL
woooo hoooo Janeen! I’m there with ya!! I’ve been fired up all night, only slept like 3 hrs, and that’s because I couldn’t post anything so I gave up.
I’m so ready for this appeal phase, it will uncover all the garbage floating around that state called “justice” and the entire country will see how this kangaroo court really works.
In the meantime, I say boycott all things connected to that state, as well as LDS owned businesses. There is one thing they all understand and its $$$
Hmmm, should we call for Harry Reid’s impeachment from the US Senate? He’s a Mormon you know.lol
I think Nazi is even more appropriate than Taliban for these fucks. They blindly follow their fuhrer (Dirty Sanchez) and they blindly scream for blood, revenge, and death.
Karma will bitch-slap them into eternity. I believe this completely.
If you look at the haters FB profiles, you can clearly see they are “future defendants” of the court. Then, and only then, will they see the importance of the Constitution and the right to be innocent until proven guilty. And I hope they all see the inside of a jail cell.
No I did not know that, but it figures. I lived in Nevada, that state is about as fucked up as Arizona…
What? NO, I live here in AZ, dont generalize, they were very helpful in getting my friends daughter away from her awful meth head mom and stepdad, we are not all bad, wow. Anyhow, I am so so sick about this, Travis abused her in life and now this, so wrong. Can we still send Jodi money in jail or write letters, could we get money together for her appeals and things?
hey Kmea….I understand that not EVERYONE is Ariona is bad, but doing business with a state that would allow a Judge like Sherry Stephens to reside over a case she clearly isn’t able to handle is WRONG. Allowing a DA to overcharge a person for career advancement is wrong, and lastly, to allow a certain group of people to take over and run your state is WRONG on all levels.
I understand this is happening in other states as well, but the only way people can stand up against it is to not do business with these states. If enough people stop sending their dollars, and tell them why, maybe just maybe things will change.
To ignore it, or pretend its not happening, is tantamount to agreeing with what they are doing.Don’t you agree…
btw you have the power to write a letter to the bar and complain about Mr. Kermit’s behavior in the court, did you know that. Those who don’t live in Arizona can not….
I agree 100% Melvis! Very well said!
Hell YEAH Renee!! I got my boots strapped too, I have an Idea I’m working on………
Only going UP!
Hold on Jodi……..
Hi Janeen and all,
I’m new to this site today, very glad I found it. I was so upset by the blatant biased nature of this trial that I had to find out if others felt the same and I’m so happy to see this supportive site filled with such great people such as yourself.
The absolute unfairness of this trial in a country that brags “innocent til proven guilty” has made me sick.
You said it all so well, thank you. I’m usually a better writer but my brain is numb with disbelief of how this has played out so I’m very glad to see someone write out exactly how I feel.
Imagining how scared, alone, distraught, she must feel sitting there feeling so hated while every expression or movement is being analyzed to pieces by the media is just impossible. The numbers of people quickly jumping to stone her is so disheartening.
No one has a right to judge her reactions to any of this, too many armchair quarterbacks these days, the media is the worst. The lack of compassion leaves me sick and shaking my head.
Thank you to everyone HERE for giving me back some hope in humanity.
yes the wheel of fortune was a good card and it told it like it was now Jodi asking for the death penalty go back to 2nd story she tell Flores is I killed him I would ask for the death penalty but she told him I did not kill Travis ….. now she is tired of all the hate and TV media saying bad things about her no wonder she said just kill me I don’t want to live in this world I asked myself why now I think when she told the Hughes what happened with seeing Travis masturbating to one of his kids and then on may 28 when she gets the nasty I hate you email my have been because he got a call from Chris and chowed him out but he was always good at turning things around and when Jodi called and he was told that Mimi did not want him sexually he wanted Jodi for his booty call may be she was dressed and ready to go to Ryan to move on but lets not forget the intruder the man and the woman one came in thru the closet and the other down the hallway just as she said how she wants to save them so they can live with their son she is a saint in my eyes to give her life so someone else could be happy in there’s
I apologize, Tonya. I should not have posted the above comment. Especially at a time like this. Hell, at no time for that matter. Take care.
Pat
C’mon now. Tell us how you REALY feel … heee heeee … 😉
It’s a “Travesty of Justice” when the Governor of Arizona Jan Brewer told the news media on Tuesday, May 7, 2013 that she believes Arias is guilty. The governor said “I don’t have all the information, but I think she’s guilty.”
What compelled the Governor to speak to the news media the day before it was rumored that on Wednesday a verdict would be coming in for Jodi Arias?
And for what purpose?…I feel that someone got to her…they desperately needed for her to say that on Tuesday to the news media…a Governor making a statement like that is powerful…
I have always felt that the unsequestered jurors for the past four months were watching tv and the news every day…I know they’ll never admit to it…but they probably did…jurors are humans and humans have a tendency to err in many ways…
http://www.kswt.com/story/22188162/arizona-gov-jan-brewer-thinks-arias-is-guilty
Exactly, and those jurors ISP records need to be court ordered and handed over to the defense.
This is one sentence of the things that Juror 8 said….
Juror 8 said that the jurors passed the time in the jury room looking at their personal devices, their iPods, iPhones and tablets, he said.
WTF…this is the way that my teenager keeps up with everything that is going on…
There is more information on these devices than a televison ever has….
The judge should have asked them if they were reading about the trial on their devices….hmmm…
Exactly, truthseeker. All anyone had to do is look at the news headlines on any given day and there it was … the latest on the Jodi Arias trial. I saw it every morning on my iPhone. And they didn’t even have to click the links with the way HLN phrases their headlines.
I agree, Lilly. That would be much better than a lie detector test and it would be admissable in court. I think Nurmi should file for a mistrial NOW.
We are talking about Jan Brewer here- she is not known for thinking first- and LOL, no one got to her- she is just that messed up about the things she says!
I would think that video of the juror should be enough to get the info from all their devices to see if there was any access of inappropriate sites ever. This could be a good thing.
“Travis-ty of Justice,” just a pun on words.
Im guessing judges time.
SJ ARE YOU READING THIS I think HLN is spying on use someone just commented about my not understanding what I said and that I should be more interested in my punctuation or spelling the person name is JEAN she is below you can find what I said by using edit find my name tonya
SJ needs your attention here or member of the team just have a bad feeling we are being watched
Everyone should be very afraid of this verdict..jodi haters as well. Jodi was convicted of 1st degree by the media, not the jury. This jury 100% watched this trial thru the media and saw all the allegations that was not suppose to be seen by the jury b/c it was too prejudicial or was a lie. What we witnessed was a modern day lynch mob. It was barbaric and uncalled for. If this could happen to Jodi, it can happen to anyone. People standing outside the courthouse chanting “Kill her” was barbaric and reminded me of a medieval witch hunt. I am hoping her attorneys file an appeal asap on these grounds. I do believe with this jury being able to watch everything unfold could warrant a new trial. This jury should have been sequestered from day one.
Trial By Media Wikipedia:
Jodi Arias is an American woman, who charged with first degree murder in the Killing of Travis Alexander. Her trial began on January 2, 2013. The case was televised and viewable online and was given extensive coverage by Time Warner subsidiaries Turner Broadcasting System, CNN, HLN.
The Toronto Star commented “With its mix of jealousy, religion, murder and sex, the Jodi Arias case shows what happens when the justice system becomes entertainment”
It’s something when Jodi’s name is the definition of “Trail by media” isn’t it? Shows she did not receive a fair trial.
Sadly, so true. Unbelievable!! Disgusting!
Jodi’s appeal team should make this the bellwether case for trial by media. Mobile connectivity is so prevalent now that a line in the sand has to be drawn. I’m shocked that no law professors have spoken up about this. Maybe they’ve wanted to, but their opinions don’t sell soap. If it doesn’t stop now, there will be a case in the future (could even be the Zimmerman case) where it’ll get ugly and mobs will burn this country down. It really doesn’t matter who the mobs are for or against because TV and reality as entertainment, is not about rationality. It’s about appealing to the most basic, primal emotions to sell a product, and pay the salaries of useless human beings like JVM and NG. Justice, fair play, honesty be damned.
That is exactly what I said! It reminded me of the Salem witch trials when the crowd would cheer when an innocent woman was hung for witchcraft!
yes! Thats what I keep saying, I am surprised they are not wanting to burn her at the stake and hang her head on a pole, the crazys at the courthouse would probably love that
If they could they would, and they would broadcast live.
Nancy DisGrace would be gleeful.
Natalie, That’s exactly what I was thinking! I mentioned them wanting to “stone” her in another post. It’s so disturbing to see the cheering mobs. Turns my stomach!
Lilly, what you wrote is perfect. This horrendous “Trial by Media” has made it impossible for her to get fair treatment literally ANYWHERE! How scary that is and we should all take notice!
Just about all the seats of power throughout the greater Phoenix area are occupied by Mormons or people who have had long, friendly relationships with the Mormon power structure. Mesa alone remains the most concentrated area of Mormon power and influence in the state.
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I don’t doubt it. Vegas has gotten over run by LDS as well. Funny isn’t it….that city represents everything the LDS church is supposed to oppose, yet they literally have taken over down there. One reason we got the hell out of there!
the mormon church owns a lot of buildings in vegas…
Mormons have a long history in Las Vegas. Senator Harry Reid is one and he was also head of the Nevada Gaming commission before he was elected to the senate in 1986.
I also understand that they were the ones that were involved with Howard Hughes and his death. I watched a show recently that talked about their involvement, I guess they “managed” his money for him….yep bet they did!!
I hope this isn’t pulling attention away from the subject of supporting Jodi but I had to say something…
They (LDS) own a lot of property everywhere! I live in Northern California and they are everwhere here and have been as far back as I can remember.
As for Vegas references, many Mormon familes are wonderful people perhaps led astray. But just as many others have big ugly skeletons in their closets, they are just really good at hiding them and protecting each other!
TA is a perfect example of that, living one way in secret and living another way in public because his success and ability to manipulate others to join his business or church highly depended on his image. People in businesses such as his are told to be involved in large churches because it’s a free place to network and find victims willing to hand over money and control. Amway teaches that, too. Many churches work that way, portray an image that will draw people in to give up more money. I heard one audio of him where he said “I am not a spiritual person”, wow.
It’s much easier to protect themselves if they infiltrate the justice and government systems plus buy up all the property. I’m not sure there is a place anymore to get aeay from it. We almost had a Mormon president! To me they are as scary as the FLDS.
I don’t mean to sound judgmental, I’m really not a judgmental person but I’ve seen some scary stuff since I grew up with it around me.
Wow! I totally believe it!
P.S. I should add that I am only relaying to you guys what has been reported. I am not 100 % sure if it is true. Also, I do not like most of what Miss casares says, but at least she had a moment of compassion for Jodi and her family. Big hugs and kisses to you all, meow!! love ya, Jessie
Hi everyone…
They just announced on HLN that trial resumes at 4:00 pm Eastern time…which will be 1:00 pm Arizona time…
I know a lot about the law and I think she will get a retrial. Her defense definitely let her down, the judge made some huge mistakes, and the jury not being sequestered was ridiculous. I believe in our justice system. It does work, but it did her wrong. HLN tried this case too and I believe they helped convict her. I don’t believe for a minute these jurors didn’t see any of it.
What I don’t understand is how they are making Travis out to be this wonderful man. He lied to everyone. He is no angel.
Something that was also allowed in the courtroom that shouldn’t have been was the family sitting there sniffing and snorting and rolling their big eyes at the defense. I am so shocked at this trial and the way it was handled.
Thankyou for saying that! They were just ridiculous! The one brother had the nastiest, most superior, arrogant, sneer on his face. The one sister was constantly rolling her eyes at everything, and the other was making faces of all kinds just as much. It was like watching pantomime. I couldn’t believe the judge didn’t do a damn thing about it.
You’re right, it was downright shocking.
I’ve been upset since the verdict was read yesterday. I’ve been feeling uneasy and crying off and on. I so badly want to talk to Jodi and give her a hug, but I can’t, and that really sucks. This whole trial has been one big circus. I’m still shocked at the verdict. Juan’s evidence was circumstantial, not solid proof. How can they find her guilty on that? I feel like screaming. I also feel bad for the defense team because they really did a great job on this case.
Same here,Britney… 🙁
Britney and Maria, big hugggsss to you both. Try to stay strong, she will win in appeals, there is no way she can’t. I hope this case is reviewed by the 9th circuit, does anyone know if Mesa falls under their jurisdiction…I hear that they ride these lower courts pretty hard when there is evidence of misconduct, or other shenanigans.
btw, you two look like sisters! Pretty girls….
Funny you should mention that,Melvis.I’ve told Britney she looks exactly like my elder sister!!
Hugs to you too,((((((Melvis))))))))
(((Hugs Britney))) we are all feeling the same way
Ok, I need some help understanding this verdict. Does anyone have a link to the instructions the jury was given regarding the verdict form? All of the instructions I have viewed end on page 22, just as the form is being mentioned.
I’m not sure that the jury understood their instructions. They could have found her guilty of first degree murder either:
-unanimously on premeditated
-unanimously on felony
-as a combination of the two (ie 6 for premeditated and 6 for felony)
They came back with:
– 5 for premeditated
-ZERO for felony
-7 for premeditated AND felony
Based on the combo option, I would have expected:
– 5 premeditated
-7 felony
Was the premeditated AND felony option even a viable option, or did they just make that up?
Even Wilmott looked confused, as per the instructions, she expected to hear 7 for felony murder after the clerk said 5 for premeditated. Take a look at her face as the verdict is being read.
Based on the evidence it presented, the prosecution claims the premeditation/plan/intent began when she stole her grandfather’s gun. Or maybe at some other point closer to the “killing”. Read: the state doesn’t know, which equals they didn’t prove one way or the other, which equals doubt.
Then the felony part of their case says she killed him unintentionally as an uninvited guest, and she only became uninvited when the “attack” began?. Ok – so how can you intentionally kill someone AND unintentionally kill them at the same time? So 7 of them believe she planned/intentionally killed him as far back as May 2008, AND those same 7 also believe that she unintentionally killed him while committing a felony (still not sure what the felony is… trespassing, burglary or something that took place within seconds of beginning her “attack”). I don’t think they were allowed to double count, or cast a vote for both theories, were they? If they couldn’t decide between unanimous premed, unanimous felony, or combo of premed OR felony, equaling 12 votes total, doesn’t that make them a jury that can’t agree or decide?!
I get that they had enough votes to convict her on first degree murder, but the breakdown shows they might not understand the differences in theories, and the way you arrive at each one.
I guess 5 + 0 really does = poundcake.
You’re right Mordecai.
Jennifer Wilmott did seem dumbfounded when the numbers and then charges were read.I couldnt help but noticing every time they replayed the verdict.
This verdict makes no sense.
I think Wilmott was just shocked by the viciousness of the verdict! For 12 people to find her guilty of premeditation is mind blowing.
The felony charge is that they think she committed the crime of murder while trespassing, not that it was an unintentional murder. It’s just overwhelming.
That diminutive juannabe accused Jodi of killing TA three times, so I guess we shouldn’t be suprised that the jury’s mathematical skills would improve upon conviction. But are the talking heads saying that Jodi was over-convicted? Hell, no! Harpies, every last one. And don’t get me started on Jean Casarras, she was only pretending sympathy so she could get Jodis family on camera. HEARTLESS!
*wouldn’t improve. Can’t type to keep up with my raging thoughts!
Yes, I agree with you about Jean. She talks out of both sides of her mouth to cover her ass.
I agree with others here – the “felony murder” was classic case of overcharging. That’s why both sides spent little time on it.
Does anyone not in that jury box seriously believe Jodi went there to commit a robbery?
The fact that 7 jurors bought into that theory, while ALSO convicting her of premeditation, is a bad sign for the defense as they go forward to the 2nd and 3rd phases.
My best guess is that the verdict form had several options for them to check and they were able to check both murder in the first degree and felony murder.
Hi Everyone!
Like everyone else, tried to post after the verdict yesterday, and it went nowhere. I think I get why JA said she’d prefer to die than live on yesterday’s post verdict interview. First of all, as expected HLN et al, are only showing clips that seem provocative to continue to incite the crowd further. What happened yesterday, was just not enough for them.
Its fine if you bash me for what I’m going to say, but I’ll say it anyway… Had JA had the VISIBLE and CONSISTENT support and full backing of her family from ATLEAST the point of the beginning of the trial (never mind about the past), she would’ve been perceived differently. Believe me, I do understand about livelihoods, etc. There seemed to be a dearth of people from her side. Also, the immediate and instinctive response from her parents at the first post-arrest interview with Flo – to me, there was no excuse for a parent to not stand up for their kid, especially when they did not have the full details of what had transpired – no matter what their prior relationship with their kid was!!! Her fathers tone and stance in that interview still rankles in me. They seemed to be more accepting of the views of a stranger – one who did NOT have their child’s best interest at heart, than their own child!! I found that so very hurtful and wondered how JA would ever recover from what I perceive as a betrayal of the deepest degree! Most of them couldn’t even bring themselves to court for closing let alone the verdict. Crying later would’ve left me feeling deserted and cold towards them, as I expect she has felt and did – esp. yesterday.
The mob, as much as their hatred is palpable and hurtful, it is not the knife that continues to twist itself in your heart and back, simultaneously. If anything, at some point, you can move past that and even scoff at them as they ‘know not what they are talking about’!! But, when it comes to your flesh and blood, its different. It cuts to the bone. I feel that she FELT the despair one would go through, knowing that this would’ve been her best chance of salvaging what was left of her life. From the point of the start of the trial, they could’ve stood strong for her with their presence, words, some sort of demonstration or way of reaching out to her, that would’ve conveyed their belief and trust in her and her act of ending TA’s life as a forced choice of defending her life. People perceived her worth and innocence or lack of, by the scarcity of family backing and support – Even they don’t believe her, why should we?
I feel so very sad and moved by her condition today. She has been striped of all dignity by the repeated and full-on display of her body (Thank you JM and the DT for not putting restrictions on photography and video for that segment in court), crucified over and over for even breathing let alone uttering a word, offering a glance, making even a slight movement – for even existing! What then, pray God, was the purpose of putting her on this earth? What service or lofty goal or divine purpose did she serve by even being born? So at this point, JA feels she has nothing to lose or gain, what does it really matter anyway -she probably wants to come out and say to EVERYONE (fly and all) “here, maybe my death would serve a better purpose than my life! Enjoy it all, and get some peace while you are at it!!”
Sorry folks, for the dire comments. I just feel this as the ‘cut’ that hurts the most, even the M1/PM verdict that she recd yesterday. This is what I perceive, what I sense – from her unspoken word, as the underlying cause of her desire to just move on from this earth to a better place. I could be wrong, as anything is possible – even a verdict like the one that came down yesterday! 🙁
Great post. I do agree with you, Intro, in every way. Her family let her down and should have at least tried to support her. It’s so sad!
Yes. I can’t help but think she’s had a really bad time from her father her entire life, given the way he acted and talked about her. Her mother could have done better as well, but her father was unforgivable.
Also it seems ridiculous to me that her parents called the police to deal with her pot thing. I’ve never tried it, never been interested and I think that was brutal. I can’t imagine dealing with something like that by calling the police. It sounds like they called the police right away, instead of even trying to handle it within the family. If I were her, I would have felt mortally betrayed then as well. And, if they would do that to a 14 year old girl, how were they handling her before then, besides the wooden spoon and other stuff? They certainly didn’t care about her emotionally. Maybe her mother, but definitely not her father. He spoke about her as if he barely knew her. “She’s been yelling at my wife”…..
Hate to admit this, but when I had an abusive relationship that I couldn’t get rid of, I just acted crazy. I would call my mom or she would call me and I would get upset out of the blue, for seemingly no reason – but it was the extreme stress of dealing with that terrible relationship. I started having problems with my temper that I had never had before. I was a total mess. And, I could not talk to any of my family about any of it because they were fundamentalist christians. They had a history, from birth, of blaming me for everything. If my older brother wrecked my sandcastle, I would be punished for crying about it. I am not kidding. If her family treated her that way I can see her behaving in an unpredictable way, “crazy” to people who have no idea what she was going through. That proves to me even more that she was being abused by Travis.
I think her father has been extremely harsh with her, and her mother has had to go along with it, just my impressions.
hello.. again….
I hope a really good Defence Attorny helps Jodi out with her Appeals..all the way to the Supremes!
Arizona has made a mockery of the Judicial Systgem for the whole world to see!
Good morning/afternoon Jodi family!
I’m typing still unable to fully procceed in my brain what happened yesterday.I’ve barely slept or eaten,didnt go to work…I cant even begin to imagine how Jodi spent the night,alone in that cell.
In the midst of all this havoc I WANT HER to know there are tons of reasonable people out there who love and support her,especially now and especially after watching the satisfaction on that stupid reporter’s voice when asking her if she knows whether the public like her or not.It was devastating to hear Jodi saying she know they dont like her,I wanted to scream out loud No,Jodi WE are here,we’ve been here all along,you just cant see or hear us.
Now more than ever I NEED her to know that she has sth to cling to,she HAS to regain her strength,hope and desire to live and fight.She endured so much abused in the hands of that sick bastard that giving up on life at this point is just not right.She’s a survivor and somehow she MUST see and accept that in order to find a glimse of courage to carry on.Wanting to die is simply NOT the solution,or the ultimate freedom as she said.Someone,anyone must help her understand that.
Once again I’m reaching out to all of you,especially the posters who have been here all along whom I’ve grown to know and consider my secopng family.We ARE TEAM JODI.FOREVER.AND YOU CAN MARK MY WORDS ON THAT.
I feel you Maria- I am like a walking zombie, I can barely function. I didn’t go to school last night, I burst into tears every time I think of the hurt and pain on Jodi’s beautiful face when she heard that (TEMPORARY) verdict. As soon as I know where she is going to be for a while I will be sending her support in any way possible and to her family as well. They NEED to know the lynch mob outside the courthouse will move on to something new to hate, we WILL BE HERE AND WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS!!!
TEAM JODI FOREVER!!!!!!
Maria I am also saddened and surprised by the verdict considering how weak premeditated evidence was. I have to agree with others who say the jury was tainted. For those who are spiritual remember what another said when he was put to death by the mob.
Forgive them father for they know not what they do. Luke 23:34
I’m NOT comparing Jodi to Jesus. Just that they have both been wrongfully convicted.
Hello maria…..hard morning for me as well….
At least the world knows what kind of a manipulative hypocrite Travis Alexander was now. His family can pretend all they want…the world knows…they heard him in his own words. I don’t find this surprising though. Those who proclaim to be so chaste are usually just the opposite. He emotionally abused her, whether it was self-defense or not….HE IS RESPPONSIBLE for the events that happenned. You tell your friends she is stalking you and you don’t see her BUT you are inviting her over for sex. No wonder she snapped. What a joke his life was.
Yep, that family has got to know he was a very troubled/sick person. He liked little kids in a sick way, and that came from his own mouth, not Jodi’s. He had a dark side they never knew.
”At least the world knows what kind of a manipulative hypocrite Travis Alexander was now. ”
Do they really? Our experience with the brainless sheeple all these months,our witnessing the thousands people outside the court and god knows how many on all the social media cheering and celebrating,chanting for crying out loud in the name of that bastard make me very hesitant to believe that people(other than a few)have really understood the damage this trial and their actions have inflicted on society.
Hi Maria,
I was thinking the same thing “do they really?”…. I’ve been so shocked at the biased media using “friends” to help turn him into Saint TA so it’s hard for me to believe that the “world” sees his hypocrisy.
I haven’t been here since the beginning but I’m very glad I found this site now. I got a late start in following the case due to a serious illness and treatments in the past few months. I tuned in when I could though and I became increasingly dismayed at the horrendous treatment of Jodi by CNN/HLN…a network I have enjoyed before.
I’ve been enjoying your posts and others’ too, feeling hopeful again by seeing the humanity here. I, too, hope Jodi knows of the many reasonable people who are here for her.
I soooo hope that more of the world feels that way than it seems on the constant media blasts!
I hope more people are out there who like me and others here became increasingly disgusted over time with the extremely unfair nature of this wicked witch hunt.
The more I saw the more disturbed I got and I’d love to think there are large numbers of people out there who feel the same way as we do.
The chickens will come home to roost and the self-righteous will only wonder why.
This may be old news/observation, since I don’t have a lot of free time on my hands these days, but has Jodi’s twitter account been deleted/taken down?
Yes, it was taken down yesterday after the verdict I believe.
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Here’s why I’ve been having sleepless nights: I grew up in Germany in the 70s/80s and we were fed information about the holocaust from childhood on. We grew up with this deep sense of responsibility never to let something like this happen again.
Now, I see THIS. The social media lynch mob. I am shocked and surprised how quickly things have been forgotten. All those haters act exactly like the Nazis. Even the ones who think Jodi is “guilty as hell” (quoting the haters) should see that they destroyed innocent people’s (e.g. witnesses’) personal and professional reputations as well. They tried to take other people’s freedom of speech/opinion by sending them death threats. Name calling is decorum for them. I, like many of you, have become very concerned about the world we created for our children to live in.
And yes, compassion is leaving. Did you read about the distinctive features of narcissists? Lack of empathy is one! This is a generation of narcissists. That’s also why I liked Phillip’s comment on the previous article. Most people are not willing to risk anything and stand up for the truth any more. We have been so spoiled, we are so comfortable, we are so selfish.
Okay, enough ranting now. I hope you can tell how heartbroken I am, together with all of you.
~Lene~
Lene-
couldn’t agree more!
Hi Lene,
Wow, so very well said! The lunch mob mentality so blatantly displayed on a so-called “news” channel 24/7 seemed like an attempt to drill communist propaganda into the minds of the underlings!
I’m so thankful that some of us are not as easily swayed to believe what the angry mob was selling! I literally felt sick when I heard the mob cheer. I felt sick when I saw one narcissist after another join in within view of the camera hoping to get on tv, making it about them!
Some people would walk by behind whoever was on the microphone, them slowly walk back, showing up again and again. I saw the same thing during the Boston Bombing coverage, idiots making goofy faces to get noticed. Like you, I feel It’s a sad commentary on the way this world is going.
Lene – This is an important post. There are some lessons that are the biggest lessons of human history, and the Holocaust was/is one of them.
Glad you posted this, you’ve hit on something that should command everyone’s attention, especially the hit squad media.
Truly – I feel the same way, I just can’t stand to see what they’re doing. They actually had some woman doing a slow motion blow-by-blow of Jodi’s facial expressions when the verdict was read; she objectified her to the ultimate degree. She degraded her moment by moment as she passed her Magical Mindreader Judgement (TM). How much psychological torture is enough for these people? How many times can they murder her soul? I honest to goodness felt nauseated.
I think the defense really did a great job. We need to give them credit for all their efforts and standing up for the prosecution and the lack of fairness they received from the judge. It seems like everyone faces discrimination in this day in age and i saw that with Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias….so many bullies in this world.
Hello all- I am at a complete loss for words. I am just zeroing in n the fact that Jodi can appeal.
I will definitely have more to say when SJ posts the list of FUCK YOU’s!
I have NOT lost hope, and I support Jodi more than ever now.
This IS far form over, it IS JUST THE BEGINNING!! I just hope Jodi can hang in there.
I just have such an overwhelming need to help in some way. We will find a way, and i’t going to be epic, because the FIRE that’s lit under my ass………watch out!!
I am in sure there are enough of us who feel this way, we can turn this around. I am just in thought mode right now trying to figure out where my efforts would be best focused.
THIS IS NOT OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you will find your answers if you study Mormonism.
Take a little time to research those who have escaped the cult of Mormon’s.
No doubt this jury was corrupted @ the Mormon Temple IMO.
All of the smart Judges have said Jodi’s circumstance on a daily basis in their courtrooms is charged 2nd degree and almost always plead down to ‘heat of passion’ manslaughter.
Mormon’s will go to the end of the earth to silence an ex member of the Church. Just look at what they are doing to ALV.
Hub of all this = morman . . the jurors were followed home, met at the store, on the street . . threatened
Maybe bribed as well.
right!
And to deny this sort of thing doesn’t happen is what they want us to believe. Those of us to do the right thing thinking the law will prevail and cover us are dead ass wrong . . my attorney told me last week the opponent got to our witness and threatened his business . . they bank on my running out of funds to fight . .pfft . . I hired the professor that taught the guy that bailed on me . . let’s fight . . it’s checkbook bs attorneys proficient in manipulating the law then the circus act before a jury because people are influenced by demeanor hype or threats . . then they get scared because of repercussion greater than they can handle.. they will get over what they decide to do to someone else but they can’t get over if they are met with confrontation or have to compromise themselves . . their own survival mode kicks in . . there is no honor anymore . . it’s survival of the fittest/richest or eat before getting eaten. Jodi just isn’t up to the reality of all this, she’s childlike innocent, easily influenced and taken advantage by predators . . God Bless and take care of the child, please. We need to believe in something good like Jodi does . . and shown it can happen.
Lying for the Lord!
Oh my gosh you are so right! I got dragged into a fundamentalist cult by my best friend’s mother as a child, who did it behind my mother’s back. Then my mother was dragged in, and then my oldest brother, who then married into it and is still in it. I’ve had to de-program myself. The one I was in is very, very similar to the Mormons.
This is a much bigger issue in this trial than almost anyone realizes. Everyone needs to research it. The “mainstream” LDS is all too similar to the FLDS, and there’s been a lot more info out there about all of that. For example Warren Jeffs, etc. etc.
They would sentence her to death without looking into anything beyond the surface facts.
Kinda on a tangent, I was watching a documentary on Mormons today and there was a young guy who had been a missionary who came up with an idea to make a “sexy” calendar of missionary men posing without their shirts on.
The calendar became very popular and got a huge amount of attention. Then, the you know what hit the fan. He got “LOADS” of hate mail, really hateful hate mail. Gee, what did that make me think of ? He then was excommunicated from the Mormon religion because of it. He didn’t present the image that he was supposed to present to the world as a mormon because of the calendar.
Says a lot to me. I think a lot of this has to do with the fundamentalist mind set.
This is not over, there is always hope and anyone who has contact with Jodi, needs to reassure her of that. The despair is not knowing when the hell she will get out of there. The wheels of the courts grind so slowly.
Yesterday was the worst day ever. I was so shocked by the verdict and had one hell of a time trying to access this site. When I did manage to get the page up it wouldn’t let me post. Giving me an error message. So frustrating when this is the only place where there are people who share my opinions. I can only think the jury was too intimidated by CA trial to do the right thing. Standing up for what is right is hard sometimes but I was sure there would be at least one person on the jury who would do the right thing.
Yes, we have them here in Maine too, Mormons, but they are just visiting on their crusade to brainwash. The next time two of these people knock on my door, I will tell them I can no longer talk to them. I have in the pas and believe that everybody has freedom of speech. I’m sorry if I am offending anyone. When they ask why I wish no to speak, I will tell them to go ask Jodi.
Glen- maybe its just because I’m so pissed right, and no, I do not apologize to any of the Mormon posters, but if one of those bastards knocks on my door I will tell them not to EVER, under ANY circumstance set foot on my front lawn again!! FUCK THE MORMON CULT!!!
Amen! I am sorry to any Mormons that I may offend, but fuck the Mormons!
So glad to have you Renee! I just knew some cult apologist pedo- knob slob was going to come at me deep-throat gagging some bull shit that would very well send be right over the edge into body bag picture posting mode!!!!!
and rest assured – they are around….LOL LOL LOL
^5 K!!!!
OH thank God! Janeen’s here too! I need my “fuck the haters posse” really bad today.
OH read above K….read above!!!!! LOL
We dont have mormons here but my new flat is opposite a Jehovah witnesses’ temple.The other day I really had to control myself to not be tempted to open the door while they were knocking because their cult brainwashed faces remind me now of the mormon cult and I swear they would be in real trouble had I opened that damn door!!!!!
Maria- My husband was raised JW. He has been “shunned” that’s the realistic word for excommunicated. Fuck those JW bastards and fuck my “mother-in-law” while we’re at it, just in case the effects have worn off since the last time I told her that!
matter of fact I think I’ll go call that bitch right now………
LOL!!
At Kmiller:
I also used to belong to the ICOC (international church of christ) it’s very cult like and they stopped contact with me. I think the only ones I kept in contact with were the so called weak christians in their eyes who have also fallen away. I really dont care if they no longer communicate with me. isn’t that what jesus would’ve wanted…to communicate with the lost?
I have never been more about FUCK THE HATERS than I am today.
FUCK THE HATERS
FUCK THE HATERS.
FUCK THE HATERS!
That’s my hero!!!!!! The Fearsome Foursome are READY TO ROLL!!!!
I ((((((heart))))))) you Renee!!!!!! 😉
FUCK ‘EM IT IS,GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck those Bastards!!
I’m right there with you, I have ZERO tolerance for ANYONE who even remotely waivers from that agenda. Anyone who is not FOR this cause can suck a limp one!!
Anyone here ever see AZfoulks before last night? I read their post and felt like Vlad Dracul entered the forum. Just said I felt uncomfortable and had no comments.
Vent and rage Renee’. Get it out of your system.
I cannot apologize to people that organize and hide behind a religious name. My God lives inside me, not thru a bishop, priest, rabbi and so on, and I am amazingly blessed. I feel no need to pay anyone to listen to the sins they think I commit. I know what I do wrong and no one can punish me worse than I will myself. I make no excuses and think everything I do can be forgiven by coughing up 10% of my salary . . that’s extortion!!!!!!!! and the bigger the paycheck, the bigger the percentage so all crime/sins will be forgiven . . checkbook sin ..
And NO DOUBT they fully funded (the attempt on) Jodi’s death!!!
Kmiller – I was raised JW too, got myself out of it and managed to get my mom out of it but my brother and his family are in it to the hilt. It’s a horrible cult and they are almost exactly like the mormons.
LOL, this is great. It’s great to know there are a lot of really smart people here who have compassion and are onto all these corrupt freaks.
Amen, cb. Since when did any of us need an organization as an intermediary between ourselves and God. All anyone has to do is live by the golden rule – that’s religion enough! What pisses me off about organized religions is when they refuse to live and let live.
What Renee said! Up their ass.
If you tell them to fuck off like I did, they put you on a blacklist. No more callers.
This cult is idiotic, misogynist, and full of narcissistic money grubbers. They protect each other, Read the mormongulag for examples of child sexual abuse.
It’s beyond revolting.
I have had hundreds of arguments with those bloody bishops in my work in Child Protection, they couldn’t give a toss about women and children domestic violence or sexual abuse.
They nauseate me.
You are SO RIGHT!
+kmiller…Yup! Ditto!
Good morning Dorothy (((((hugs))))))
Morning Dorothy!!!
How does Kermit get to offer two different theories and yet the jury can agree with both of them?
Theory 1 – Jodi took her grandpas gun, drove to TA’s house and killed him.
=Premeditated Murder (Because she planned it).
Theory 2 – Jodi grabbed TA’s gun (remember the gun, the one that Kermit says doesn’t exist when Jodi says it does, but now it exists to qualify his theory because he says it does), killed him with it then stole the gun by leaving his house with it.
=Felony Murder (due to the theft of the firearm … the one that only exists when it benefits Kermits story).
Doesn’t it have to be one or the other. How in the FORK can it be BOTH? Either she brought her grandpas gun with her constituting premeditated or she used TA’s gun and then “stole” it by removing it from his house without his permission (yet we don’t know that TA had never given her permission to take his gun whenever she wanted to use it … just sayin’) constituting Felony murder. WTF?!?
They cannot justify the Felony by using that BS trespassing crapola story of her right to be in his residence being revoked once she stabbed him, that is the most cockamamie thing I have ever heard of.
I totally agree that the jury took the easy way out and they are looking to capitalize on the financial gain for themselves at Jodi’s expense.
*Please excuse the clunky grammar, trying to get way too much info out of my head into a quick post isn’t easy. :))
Corey this is another example of the AZ prosecution overcharging and getting away with it. I don’t believe trespassing, or even the theft of a cheap 25 toy gun, qualify as a felony. Sometimes I’m sorry I moved to AZ because there are too many nuts and villagers with pitch forks here.
That’s what I don’t get either. What are the chances that all of the jurors agreed to those TWO charges? It doesn’t make any sense, its NOT right! I can see in a few years this will be an issue and this same trial will be brought up as an example. They’re IDIOTS!
I think jm tricked the jurors into thinking Jodi stole her grandpa gun and it was used to kill Travis so its felony murder cuz the robbery killed someone BUT that is not the actual law. It has to be during the felony. I really think the jurors didn’t read the law correctly!!!
Or it could be that they believed Jodi story that she took Travis gun that’s why its felony murder.
The felony was either the “trespassing” that Juanabee claims occured once Jodi began DEFENDING herself, or maybe the theft of the ring. I’ll admit it though, I dont know much about the ring, BUT if Jodi had a ring from.Travis its because he GAVE it too her!
All this stalking bs is nuts, I bet Travis would have eventually tried to get Jodi to marry him since he knew the kind of crap she would put up with, but she showed him! Now she needs to prove that she won’t be the state of Arizona’s victim!
http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/MediaRelationsDepartment/MediaRoom/mediaGuidelines/rule_122.asp
The impact of coverage upon the right of any party to a fair trial;
The impact of coverage upon the right of privacy of any party or witness;
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They sure broke both of these rules didn’t they?
They sure did, which is good only because it is yet another of many tickmarks on the Appeal sheet.
Don’t forget this one: The impact of coverage upon the safety and well-being of any party, witness or juror;
What about that one and Alyce LaViolette? Or Jodi herself?
Good points Lilly
Hi everyone, I hope today is a better day. I had a very bad night, having bad dreams and nightmares. Anyway, let’s keep the faith for better thing for Jodi.
You, too? I had a dream about Jodi’s death.
I posted Goodmorning to everyone on the last post. ooops! So, goodmorning again to all my great smart Jodi supporter friends.
Im still upset and I just cant get past the thought that ALL 12 jurors found Jodi guilty without ANY doubt. Theres NO WAY!!! They were either scared of the riot outside of the courtroom or they have been watching the media and even if they watched the media. Out of 12 jurors there had to be ATLEAST one juror that had common sense and the rest of the jury ponded on that juror until they were able to talk that one juror into a guilty verdict. its just unbelievable! I hope these people can live with themselves! And its sickening how all those people where out there yelling justice for TA!
Good morning LC (((((((hugs)))))))))
Let the fucktards have their laughs and celebrations……
…he who laughs LAST…………
yeah fuck them! And by the way, my feelings for the TA family have gotten worse. I don’t hater anyone, I don’t hate people but its very close to hate!
I haven’t watched the part that the cameras show the reaction from TA family, I just CANT!
Well the sisters reacted but it did seem strange that the brother on the left was rather silent.
Hi LC 🙂 That last post mysteriously disappeared… something is up with this site…? Time stamp is weird and latest comments aren’t updated
LC- glad another member of the FTH (fuck the haters) posse is here! I’ve decided mad is going to work out better than sad for me.
((((((((((((((((((((((LC)))))))))))))))
FTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👿
LC, I don’t like it any more than you do. But it is what it is and we have to accept it. I sure in hell would not want to see the jurors threatened or harrassed in any way either. Lets all get better, not bitter!
All due respect, my dear Tony ♥ But I am choosing to be BITTER. at least for now….
As it is your constitutional right Renee’. You’d probably wish right now that you were a 200 foot giant going on a rampage in Maricopa county!lol
With all due respect my sweet Tony(and as you’ll probably notice from my posts) Im choosing to be bitter too.
Bitter and heartbroken.
I have no problem with that Maria.:-)
Mr. Tony….
I do so respect you and you are such a love….
BUT….
PLEASE let us have our day for venting and letting the frustration out. The BULLSHIT pill we were all asked to swallow is stuck in some IF NOT ALL of our throats…….
WE NEED TO VENT. WE NEED TO SCREAM. WE NEED TO BE BITTER.
The dancing and cheering and outright spectacle that is being exhibited by the fucktards and haters and basic ASSHOLES is FAR MORE DISGUSTING than ANYTHING one of my friends here convey.
I for one – am going to have a GIGANTIC smile on my face every single time I see “FUCK THE HATERS” or “FUCK THOSE BASTARDS” or “LET’S ROLL ALL OVER THESE SHITTARDS” – today and even if it is ONLY FOR TODAY –
It does my heart PROUD!
I LOVE YOU MY FELLOW FUCK THE HATERS POSSE!!!!! ((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))
You are more than welcome to rant on Janeen.
I’m thinking we might need a special password protected VENTING page… yes or no?
SJ
Team Jodi
Thank GOD for you SJ!! I was going to ask that, but felt bad since you do so much already! I think to vent and to PLAN!
Ok… sounds like a plan. I just added the page (top right). I’ll email you the password.
SJ
Team Jodi
SJ! please email me the password! =)
Love,
Sil
Would you please email me the pw too?
Yes SJ…I suggested yesterday that you need to make the blog private just for us 🙂
honestly I dont know if my comment was posted. LIke many others here I wasn’t seeing my comments nor on the side upper right hand corner 🙂
YES!!!!
And I agree with Meow…I wish this site were private.
Yes please!
you got mail 🙂
Thanks Kmiller you’re the best!
S.J. If you do can you send it to me as well.
me too if possible please! i hate being left out. xo!
No, I DO NOT accept it. I hope to God Jodi doesn’t either and she fights and claws tooth and (French manicured for the haters) nail!!
Posting here amongst friends is NOT the same as harassing the Jurors the unimaginable way they would have been if the verdict had been anything less than M1.
There’s no ”either….or…. ” in my mind.They were both scared of the lynching(see Casey’s case) and they were watching the media all along.
I pity their souls,I hope noe of their children ever meet their own Travis!I hope they themselves will never be in any legal trouble and have to defend themselves against DEAF jurors!!!
I want to repost this as it was lost when the previous page disappeared. I think this is important to note since the jury has had access to media……
I thought it was out of line that Judge Belvin Perry appeared on the Today Show Monday discussing CA trial and verdict. Per the Huffington Post “Judge tells ‘Today’ show there was enough evidence to convict Casey Anthony on murder charges”. This is on the first day of Jodi’s jury deliberating, it’s outrageous!!!Also, reported in the Daily Mail, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320222/Casey-Anthony-judge-shocked-guilty-verdict-claims-sufficient-evidence-convict-murder.html, so it went worldwide.
Here is video link:http://www.today.com/video/today/51786546#51786546. So my question is: DID THIS JURY GET THE MESSAGE?!
He was to appear the next day on NG show. I heard some criticism regarding his appearances while this jury was trying to reach a verdict. Seems he had a change of mind and has not been seen since. But still this is unconscionable
Agree, unconscionable! I think it was judge Seindlen (Anna Nicole) who said that Judge Perry got a phone call from some of the Supreme Court judges criticizing him for some other media appearance he made. Then Seindlen said he was glad he was retired and now he can say what he wants.
I saw him say that he knew there was no way the jury wasn’t watching coverage of the trial, and that he thought it was an outrage that they weren’t sequestered. Who cares if Arizona hasn’t done it in 80 years, times are FAR different now than they’ve ever been. I have never in my lifetime seen them so rabid as they are on this case in such a horrible way.
I’m sure the jury saw that Casey Anthony stuff. If they had iPads, and smartphones, etc. there is no way they could have escaped seeing tons of stuff about that and Jodi.
I want something done about it. It was not a fair trial by any stretch of the imagination. It should be thrown out, no question.
The trial does need to be thrown out.
Echo echo??
Ok great that went through. Love you guys, hang in there, love you Jodi. We are STILL TEAM JODI.
one more try…
Hi Team Jodi-
As many of you, I have been having great difficulty emotionally since hearing the verdict yesterday. I am not much of a crier, but I have wept since the verdict came in. I have wept for Jodi and her family, I have wept for every woman who is a victim of domestic violence, I have wept for are children who are growing up in a world that condones abuse of women and pedophilia.
I have wept and am ourtraged at citizens in our Country that are no better than terrorists, and would gather near a Court house and cheer for someones State sactioned execution, when they were not provided with a fair and impartial trial. I am most outraged at the idea that they are doing so under the guise of Christianity. They are also no better than the Pharacies of Jesus’ day, whom he rebuked and called to repent. In fact these cries for Jodi’s murder goes against all of Jesus’ teachings. The Jesus I follow, without being involved in organized religion, actually stopped the stoning death of a woman by telling the hate filled crowd to cast the first stone if they were without sin.
I am outraged at a Justice System in one of our States that is corrupt and tainted to it’s core. I posted last week, following the final perjured testimony of the ME, that I felt great dispair about Jodi being able to have any sembalence of a fair jury deliberation, as it was clear that the Maricopa County judicial system is beyond corrupt. I asserted my fear that the jury would also be bought and paid for by the Mormon Cult. I still held out hope that I was wrong. After the verdict yesterday, I am now convinced of it, and worry that the entire State of AZ is corrupt and Jodi will not get a fair review in the appeals Court of AZ.
It is clear that no jury who really listened to the evidence, clearly saw via TA’s own voice in texts, emails and on the phone that he was a violent man, and heard first hand the repeated perjured testimony of the State’s witnesses, would have been able to see what was well beyond reasonable doubt. Even if they thought Jodi was guilty as hell, they could not have found Murder 1. Our Judicial system and Jury system is not immune to corruption, bribery, and threats to jurors. It is why our Democracy has appealate Courts in place.
It appears more and more that we supporters are greatly outnumbered. I wonder how can we have any impact on turning this unjust verdict around and assist in exposing what is clearly a corrupt judicial system in Maricopa County? I am feeling helpless right now to do anything about this injustice.
I’m with you all the way TR.
Hi Maria-
I see you have been crying too…hugs.
Hey guys and gals or ANYONE? Am I alone here? I feel like it’s suddenly become a ghost town…YooHoo! ANYONE HOME 😥
Dorothy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (((((((((((((((((((((((((YOU)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
are NOT alone! We are ALL here!!!!! ♥
OH! Thank you Renee’ (HRS)!
I just needed someone to help stop my tears…eyes are sore. After watching Jodi’s interview that followed the reading of the verdict last night I wept so hard and for so long. I don’t believe I anticipated feeling this kind of sorrow.
((((((((((((((((((Dorothy)))))))))))))))))))
Same here.I’m a walking zombie today.
(((((Maria)))))
Hey Dorothy!!!!!! (((((HUGS)))))
Hey, Thank you Moni (((((HUGS)))))
hi Dorothy- Im here finally.
Hugs to all…I guess we are all very emotional.
Hi Dorothy.
We are here. The site has been acting up pretty bad today. I’m doing my best to not go on the hater sites and say anything too stupid to their cult. I’ve been mostly successful but not entirely. :-/
Hey TR and JoeY! I am glad some of are still here…this site IS all haywire… BUT we know our family will all return at some point.
Has anyone heard from Also Abused and if she went to the ER?
Have you ever wondered how people become, what the media calls, “radicals”? I do not think there is any wonder left in that question.
Ah, its ok everyone, talk about it, behave, play nice, put the woman to death…
Ah, its ok, talk about it, behave, play nice, trample on the constitution…
Ah, its ok, talk about it, behave, play nice, twist the laws into whatever you want them to mean…
Ah, its ok, talk about it, behave, play nice, create a witch hunt on national TV…
Ah, Its ok, talk about it, behave, play nice, cheer the death of a human being on the steps of a court house…
Well, what are people going to do when someone steps up and says “Its NOT ok, I am done ‘talking’ about it, I will not behave for my masta’, I will no longer play nice.”?
I do not advocate violence. I have always used my voice, rather than my fists. I have the benefit of a solid family and friends to keep me grounded. I have learned from mistakes in my past, that taught me violence doesn’t work. I have support.
But, what about that “guy” down the street? He may look at this a bit different. He may not have the tools to deal with his frustration in an appropriate way. We call these people “crazy” when they stand up and take action, but really what choice are we giving some of these folks, by the way our society is acting? You can call him “crazy”, but I call the lynch mob in front of the court house yesterday “crazy”, and the people that support them are fucking wack jobs.
We all see that action needs to take place. it’s clear. it’s obvious. Its time. But, when someone doesn’t have the tools to take action in an appropriate manor, then we leave them with no choice but to “adhere” or “take inappropriate action”. Most will adhere, but a few will not. This should be the concern BOTH sides have. If we don’t deal with our demons, sooner or later someone will, and we will no longer dictate the way they “deal” with them.
I stand by my thoughts yesterday, that if you are not ashamed of what happened yesterday, you shouldn’t be here.
I am a little confused, Sir. Are you saying we should be ashamed of ourselves or shouldn’t be here? Why?
I feel no shame. I am confused!
Renee’… sirlips confused me with that too
I reread what he wrote yesterday. I think what he is getting at is we should be ashamed at how the courts treated her in our name.
I will not speak against you, Sir, until I understand what you are getting at.
But I am not ashamed at myself. I have done nothing wrong with the exception of believing justice would prevail. It did not.
The only people I am ashamed of is Pickles, Juanabee, the Alexander family, the ME, Florres, and the countless other liars involved.
Sirlips.. thats fine IF people are being given their rights , and in the world today our rights are trampled by the reptiles at the head of the pyramid.
I have been waiting along time for people to wake up to the corrupt world leaders. look up Agenda 21..
Agenda 21……enough said. Follow the money Mormon cult= masons=government=Illuminatti
You heard it her first, folks, call me a conspiracy nut if you want too but you can call me in Iceland when you’re in a Fema camp here in the US eating your own lice, LOL!!
Got your back on that KMiller . . I’ve been watching it all my life and did not recognize it til I got older and weary from relocating . . I just did not like the environment but could not figure out why . . I tried . . like Jodi has . . to believe religion was good . . uhmm nahhh I believe in God on my own and scare the ones that come to the door usually ending with, leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone lol
I’m with you Kmiller !
I did state on my post last night that I was ashamed to be a member of the male gender on May 8, 2013.:’-(
“I reread what he wrote yesterday. I think what he is getting at is we should be ashamed at how the courts treated her in our name.” thats what i’m trying to say, yes. We have to own this, or no one will take responsibilty to change what we KNOW is broken.
I think he’s saying that anyone who still believes in the justice system after yesterday and isn’t ashamed of the outcome shouldn’t be here.
I agree, he’s saying that this is a place only for those that realize how horrific yesterday’s verdict truly was and feel shame for our country’s so called justice system!
All I’m saying is, this is not “their” problem. Its my problem. my system is broken. I take responsibility for it, as it is mine. I would hope that others will do the same. Confussion is for when i dont understand something. I understand this…ITS BROKEN! Anger is not going to help, people have been angry and done NOTHING for years, i am not angry. I am ashamed. I am sorry but i dont know how else to describe it.
Are we going to allow them to kill someone in my name? Thats what i am asking. I have a voice, i will use it. Some do not have that voice (they think) and will take “other steps”. That scares me. I do not condone violence, but i can see it coming. Isn’t this the same state that a congress woman was also killed by a shooter?
What are they going to do, call the governor and ask her to fix the problem? She already went on national TV and said Jodi is Guilty BEFORE the verdict was even in. She made her mind up like the rest of the mob, based on NON legal ideals.
Typo.. “Isn’t this the same state that a congress woman was ALMOST killed by a shooter? “
Sirlips, I love your posts. I really really enjoyed the one that SJ headlined the other day. I had too much going on to get in here and compliment you on it then, sorry.
But about this post about shame. I don’t live in Arizona so I can’t change their system even if I wanted to. So, I can’t have shame about what that state does. I have NO power there to change anything. I have absolutely NO desire to live in that state either just to attempt to change anything. I barely got out of Florida alive and that’s another completely shitty state that I would NEVER advise anyone to live in. I hate Florida so much I wouldn’t even visit it, to be honest, and now I feel the same way about Arizona.
Even though I don’t live in Florida anymore, I’m doing my damnedest to change something there — actually to change something all over the US for abuse victims who are in address confidentiality programs. My divorce was in Florida and the judge, knowing I was a victim of abuse, knowing I was in Maryland’s address confidentiality program, ordered me to disclose my home address to my abusive ex. I’m appealing that and the state of Maryland got involved as an amicus curiae. If I win, it will be a landmark case that will protect victims. If I lose, the landmark will be that victims are screwed and any abuser who wants to find his victim who left can simply rent a place in Florida and sue her for any old reason and a judge will order her to give him her home address. That’s what I’m doing to change something for abuse victims.
Arizona is an incredibly corrupt racist state. Jan Brewer, Sheriff Joe, sheesh. Who could clean up that mess? I’d NEVER vote for them. But it seems people in Arizona do. I’m not ashamed of myself. But I am ashamed of what’s happening out there.
Wow!! What timing for your post. I just heard there was a bomb threat at the courthouse.
what…….a bomb threat really…..holy shit!
I understand you Sir and the frustration of where to take a problem when the problem is who we’re supposed to take our problem to for solution. The lurkers have scoped out this site and used our kindness against us, stolen all the research everyone worked so hard at, most likely forwarded it to their sources. We vent but not violent by nature . . well that might have to change, not by choice of we feel it’s evil and hateful like them . . just because . . “it’s time”. I want to take of the survivor shirt and put on a warrior shirt, lol
I am ashamed to even share the same humanoid form as those frickin whack-jobs.
I realize I just can’t watch the penalty phase where the State will continue to degrade, humiliate and ridicule Jodi. I just won’t be able to stomach it. So I will be getting my news from here, where people are sane and rational.
That’s okay RB in AZ …….I don’t plan to watch either….just can’t…..
I’m not going to watch it either…if any one wants to give us a basic overview sans the dramatics of the United Front of Jodi Haters…that would be good. My head is aching and my eyes are burning enough as it is.
I’m not sure I’m going to be able to take it either.
Dr. Drew called Jodi an interpersonal terrorist? WTH? DR says Jodi just wanted to embarrass me…whaa …so it’s Jodi’s fault that you broke your chastity vows Deanna..c’mon? Own it! The Hughes were so quick to believe their friend was a pedo, but now he’s a saint? What is wrong with these people? Wasn’t Travis estranged from his family? And now they want to profit from his death? And did that excused juror really just say that they spent time on their devices…iPods and iPads? Ummm is that allowed? Sorry just venting! I am soooo angry! This will be a mistrial – Judge Seidlin said yesterday that it will come out eventually that the jurors were watching the news, HLN, etc, reading newspapers and that they should have been sequestered.He also said that the judge did not have control of her courtroom and did not do her job.
Totally agree about the Judge! Lump on a log!
Dr Drew is a hypocrite!
Don’t be sorry about venting. These are the weirdest people ever. It’s like they rounded up the weirdest people in AZ and in TV and they all got together to confuse and upset the world and gang up on Jodi.
Thank you Crystal! My sediments exactly! This whole fiasco falls on this judges shoulders. That’s their job, to run the court room, and assure that the trial is run within the limits of the law. That its a fair trial, and the jury isn’t running amok doing whatever they want. From the beginning, she never had control, and was blatantly pro DA.
FIRE THAT BITCH!
TR – I am feeling helpless too. I am so disheartened. I feel like even if we tossed this trial out the window and started a whole new one where on this whole earth would Jodi get a fair trial? I feel terrible for her. I found out my sister and best friend think she got what she deserved. But they didn’t watch the trial like Mom and I did. I feel like was the jury watching the same trial I was? I don’t think Jodi would ever have hurt one person in her entire life if she never met TA.
Danielle, I think the jury was daydreaming or SOMETHING. They COULDN’T have been watching the same trial as I was.
Danielle-
I would like to believe Jodi would have gotten a fair trial in my community, but with the likes of the Mormon Cult and Tabloid TV, I am no longer sure. My community has had it’s share of grief over the past three years in relation to domestic violence. In just that short period of time, we lost a beautiful young college coed when her boyfriend beat her to death in her dorm room, a Police officer stabbed his wife and himself to death and were found by their young children when they came home from school and another young sheriff’s deputy was killed by an offender when they intervened in a DV situation. Our youth are becoming very active in the STOP domestic violence movement and are planning a Five K walk/run to raise funds and spread the word. I only wish the rest of the Country, especially AZ would get on board.
Oh my gosh, they are horrible loses for your community! It’s really encouraging to hear that people are learning from it! Especially the youth. I heard that even abuse in high school relationships has gone up. What is going on in this world? It just makes me sad. Something happened that day between Jodi and TA. I don’t believe this was premeditated bc otherwise the plan was totally stupid. Why can’t people admit something happened? They keep saying they can’t prove she was abused, but at the same time they can’t prove she wasn’t. I don’t understand. I read someone here wrote the jury took the easy way out and I think I agree. I would love to see a mistrial bc this was a disaster!
I am encouraged by communities like yours that see a need for change and do something to work towards it.
I DVRed a show that was on this morning about Mormons bc I have no idea really what it’s all about.
God, please give Jodi strength today.
Hey SJ, I have a question for you about writing Jodi, could you email me? I couldn’t find your email address.
Much like this trial begged for a Mistrial to be ordered, the verdict is begging to be thrown out.
Does anyone in the Alexander family EVER work or do they plan on mooching off the public forever and making big $$$ of of the brother they never bothered with. What a family of hypocrites.
Karma will bite you all on the ass Alexander’s
Right now Travis is where ever he is abusing women and banging a 12 y/o girl in the ass while she’s tied up around a tree.
Sick bastard.
Joe Y, The TA family is filing a wrongful death suit…Maybe if someone offers them free meth for life if they will back off. CRAZY CRAZY people…at least ONE of them didn’t get to reproduce..(sorry that was horrid)
You have nothing to be sorry for Dorothy. It’s a day for getting it out of your system. I certainly am.
I’m sure this has been posted before, but I’ll say it again: I am outraged by the jury selection. I thought the jury were supposed to be ‘of her peers’. I don’t see how a 57 year old is her peer. At te time they were raising kids, it was ok to beat your child with a belt or wooden spoon and no one talked about it. No one talked about the abused spouse. They don’t know what it’s like being in the gereneration Jodi grew up in. They don’t understand the texts and the rage and anger Travis showed on them, or the accessibility of two or more computers that would have shown the child porn sites. The trial was set up from the start with the jury selection. My heart is with Jodi and her family.
Great point SJJ.
Excellent point SJJ. I also believe they were bought and paid for by the Cult. I refuse to be “politically correct” about it, so I’m sorry if anyone is offended. If you really look at the Mormon cult and it’s history, they carry a lot of power in some areas of our Country. They have the money and the power to get one of their own on the Presidential ticket. Look at the power our TV networks have given the likes of the mini me Joseph Smiths ie: Chris Hughes etc. during this fiasco. I’m not fooled for a minute that much of this is funded by the Mormons.
There are a lot of Mormons in AZ, UT and NV. In fact, Mesa, AZ was founded by Mormons. And like you say, TR, they do have a lot of influence. Having said that, if TA is an example of the typical Mormon, I don’t want any of them near me. As far as I’m concerned he was a waste of humanity.
I totally believe this. You are so right. Also, Glenn Beck is a mormon, isn’t he on Fox news? I forget.
I would like to see the mormon connections on this trial. It would be very interesting. Also, the mormon connections to HLN.
Such a good point.
SJJ, your point is something I’ve wondered about too. How can those people be her peers? Doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
SJJ…I hardly think 57 year old people come from an era when it was okay to beat their children with a belt or wooden spoon…wrong generation…
No.. we did not beat our kids with the wooden spoon or give them the belt..thats what was done to us!
Are you saying that you DON’T think the Mormons funded this or that you DO think that they funded it…Your last sentence is confusing
I think The Mormons HAVE funded this as well as cajoled all the hatred toward Jodi. I think there were MANY Mormons on the jury and they lied about knowing anything about this case prior to it being presented. The Mormons LIE…it is innate.
Dorothy-
I’m really exhausted from all of this emotion, so may not be making sense today. I absolutely believe this has all been funded by the Mormons.
TR, I understand your exhaustion…I was not sure if MY exhaustion was causing ME to misread or not comprehend what I am reading. My head feels like it is about to burst (plus I have dyslexia and when I am stressed or tired it takes me even MORE effort to focus..quite a task today)
not me Dorothy.. I KNOW that the Mormon Mafia is balls deep in this corruption of Justice to save their own reputation! AND I fully believe that Jodi didn’t do the throat slitting!!!
Yup Pat! Everyone knows their power lies in their MONEY….and TAX EXEMPT money at that!
I’m 25 and my parents wiped my with a belt, spoon, switch, whatever they could find, and every other kid I knew got the same. I’m not saying I think my parents abused me, but, then again, my mother never carried around a spoon for intimidation. (I. don’t think her mom knew the effects it could have had on her. She did what was the correct method back then. We now know what psychological harm it has on a child and would never do it to mine. Point is, even 20-25 years ago, it was still happening. Today, using anything but an open hand is child abuse and even that’s frowned upon. There are other ways to discipline a child.
SJJ, I don’t know where you are from, but that sort of discipline went out with the 1950s/early 1960s…I don’t know of ANY kids in their 20s who were beat with ANYTHING never mind a belt, spoon, switch(?)…so maybe it was acceptable and common in your neck of the woods but it certainly wasn’t in mine…
JSS, And I’m speaking of discipline…not random domestic violence imposed upon children, which is an entirely DIFFERENT topic. The domestic violence toward children is even rampant among some families raising their young ones today…I suppose there is no generational division in that category.
I’m 37 and was not hit with a belt/spoon/etc…my father and mother spanked on occasion with a bare hand. My husband is 44 and he did get the belt though. I don’t approve of hitting a child with implements, ever. I do think it’s abusive.
Ask me, I work in child protection. Intergenerational abuse is a well known contributor to the statistics. We parent the same way as we were parented, which is dependent on the perceived ‘wisdom’ of the day.
Fred, I beg to differ. We do not parent the same way we were parented. I am not talking about child abuse, I am talking about discipline and punishment. I recall my older sisters and brothers speaking of far different school disciplinary actions taken upon them vs. myself 16 years age difference. I am talking about punishment imposed upon children who have done wrong, whether it is making them stand in the corner, washing their mouths out with soap, grounding them vs. whipping them with an implement such as a belt or wooden spoon. A spanking with a bare hand on the bottom when the parent calms down is punishment not abuse that is out of control…we are speaking of two ENTIRELY different things. You work with ABUSED children whose parents are out of control (or their minds) that is the difference between good parenting and ABUSE. A parent who respects their child teaches their child respect early in life. Spanking a child may need only to occur once for the child to understand that disrespectful/naughty behavior is unacceptable.
Absolutely agree with you Dorothy- I am 57, and I can tell you I do not believe is physical abuse of children (by hitting them- I see that as abuse). No one should be hitting children with belts or spoons!
It was done TO 57 year olds. My parents are 57 and 58 and it happened to them.
Thank you Dorothy. Gee I’m 62. and Inever beat my boy’s,
I support Jodi with whatever she decides she has to do with her life. I love you Jodi! 🙂
It’s pretty sad when someone is thinking about suicide but the state tries to prevent them from committing suicide just so the state and the bloodthirsty masses have the satisfaction of putting her to death.
How 12-16 jurors found absolutely NO REASONABLE DOUBT against 1st degree premeditated murder is truly preposterous in my opinion.
What a gutless jury.
Fuck those cowards on the jury. They would NOT have broken me had I been among them. I’d have hung the jury if it took weeks.
I’ve been avoiding coming here because I knew everyone would be so distraught after the verdict. When I finally figured I could handle it, I couldn’t get in. Now that I’m in I’m going to have to leave because I can’t handle how many times people have acted like Jodi has already been sentenced to death. She has NOT been sentenced to death. She has not been sentenced at all. Why are people that are supposed to be supporting her giving up now?
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I’m with Janeen. I’m in a bad mood today.
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TR,
I hear you. I am having a hard time even forming words to post here. I too feel helpless. I am stunned that the talking heads continue to beat Jodi up with so much bloodthirsty passion. As someone else said they got their pound of flesh but are still going to get every dollar they can from this tragedy. Now they will go to their next victim George Zimmerman. If NG decides he’s guilty she will run with it. The heinous crimes committed are from them. NG needs to have a lawsuit against her that goes to court, not settled out of court. Fox could report on it every night or some other news outlet.That would be a problem for the HLN advertisers. There goes CNN’s gravy train. The media played the biggest role in this and the jury let them get away with it, because they didn’t have the courage to do the right thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if one or more jurors writes a book, or gets paid interviews.
Natalie-
I’m sure at least one juror was working on a book during the trial. Unfortunately, I have not found a news outlet, including FOX, who have taken even the slightest look at the truth. They have all jumped on the tabloid TV bandwagon. Not one of them has mentioned all the evidence about who TA really was.
The only reason I say that about Fox is that they would jump on the opportunity to boost ratings and at the same time be the bearer of bad pr for one of their competitors. They are just as bad as CNN.
Also, I watched the interview and was sickened by what Greta and the rest said about JA and the interview. I really don’t understand. They see Jodi so differently than we do. People talk about Jodi having no soul, my God, what BS! What they don’t realize is it’s a soulless entity, the media, that’s directing the moral compass of our society now.
I’m so heartbroken for Jodi. She was up against completely insane jealous horrible cult like people since the day she entered Travis’s life. Listen to the things they say about her and their double standards. That old GF of his that was on HLN. Travis did not have one woman that was as beautiful, sweet, talented or as pure of heart as Jodi. They hated her because she was beautiful. He took advantage of her, treated her like Toilet paper. Used her then flushed her down. He probably thought he could discard her and still keep her around to cater to his filthy perverted sexual desires and she snapped. She snapped and rightfully so. Why should she apologize to that family? I hope she NEVER does. She has nothing to apologize for. How I wish I was her friend during the times she was with that filthy animal. I would have slapped some sense into her and told him off and exposed him for what he truly was. He is akin to Lucifer in my eyes. The master of deceit. His friends as well as himself – the lowest form of life and a disgrace to the Mormom church. I see a vast difference between those filthy people and Elizabeth Smart and her family. I get so angry I can’t think straight!
I agree Andrea, Jodi should not apologize for saving her own life. The supposed “lawyers” on tabloid TV who say she should are not on her side in the least and would love for her to apologize so they can all say she just admitted she murdered him.
I don’t believe a word of those “friends” if they aren’t under oath.
They really need to shut the fuck up and quit milking Travis’s death for dollars and sympathy.
In the end, Jodi will prevail.
So I’m sure someone has already mentioned about the wrongful death suit Travis’ family is filing? The comments on this page are actually supportive,
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Jodi-Arias-verdict-Arias-victims-family-to-file-wrongful-death-lawsuit
Harmony, The comments on that site are supportive of what? Do they support the wrongful death suit or are they opposed to it? I don’t want to open it.
Quite a few are opposed to the wrongful death suit calling it blood money Dorothy.
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I guess they hacked her huh? I got the blue screen this morning , they shut down my computer. Do a port scan and see if they are getting into your computer..google it..
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Hey BeeCee…hope to see you back here soon!
Well, it appears that the Alexander Family will not be lining their pockets with Jodi’s money per this recent twitter post:
Jason Lamm @PhxCriminalAtty 21h
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but #TravisAlexander wrongful death suit against #JodiArias is barred by AZ statute of limitations.
LOL wow, awesome. That’s what you get. Besides, it’s not like she has any money for them to claim, and I doubt her parents have any either…..
I guess they just need to send more friends on TV shilling their begging site for the sponge family.
Well, I’m obviously no expert but shouldn’t the attorney for the family KNOW that before making a statement that they would file one…
Woot! :b
Statute of limitations for wrongful death in AZ is 2 years. Obviously we are well beyond that point now.
I think those ugly people are SOL!!!!!
• A wrongful death action must be filed within two years of the death, or it will be forever barred by the statute of limitations. In some cases, especially those involving claims against government agencies, claims must be presented in a much shorter time period.
• Liability for wrongful death likely will be covered under an auto or homeowners policy of insurance.
• A person against whom a claim for wrongful death is made should immediately notify his insurance company and cooperate fully in the defense of the claim.
They’ll get donations from the ass-lickers, which they can spend on meth or whatever else they’re into.
There’s apparently an exception in AZ which tolls the statute of limitations for one year AFTER a final disposition in a criminal case.
12-511. Civil action arising from criminal conduct; definitions
A. Notwithstanding sections 12-505 and 12-542, if a defendant is charged by a criminal complaint or indictment the statute of limitations for any civil cause of action that is brought by a victim against the defendant for criminal conduct against the victim is extended for one year from the final disposition of the criminal proceedings, regardless of whether the defendant is convicted of criminal conduct against the victim.
http://statutes.laws.com/arizona/title12/12-511
Unfortunately, today I was watching a stream of FOX news as I wanted to see a report on the Cleveland story.
I saw a segment where a friend of Travis was saying how happy the family were and it was the the first time anyone could remember any of them smiling in the last 5 years. She then proceeded to give the website for donations to the family.
Ca-ching.
It makes me sick how these “religious” people can be so pro murder and revenge. The are like death eaters and I feel like I am in a weird backwards parallel universe.
Saw another report of some experts saying how Jodi’s interview would not go down well with the jurors. WTF?????????? Excuse me but aren’t the jurors still supposed to avoid the news and discussing the case. They were then accusing Jodi of trying to use reverse psychology on the jurors saying she wanted the DP so then she get life in prison.
How does Jodi’s defense team prove the obvious multiple times the jurors obviously broke the rules?
I would say the defense should request to inspect their electronic devices and computers. It has been done in other cases and I do not see why is could not be done here..
That would be fantastic! It should be done, but Arizona? They are brutal.
They said that because the interview can be used in court today and she can prefer the dp over life in prison.
Right, she’s stated quite a few times that she would want death if this situation ended up being the case. Probably why the DT was pissed (rumored) with each other or her. That interview can definitely be used against her like the previous ones
Good job! Exactly! – “Saw another report of some experts saying how Jodi’s interview would not go down well with the jurors. WTF?????????? Excuse me but aren’t the jurors still supposed to avoid the news and discussing the case.” They are admitting that they know the jurors are watching and will be watching.
I am so proud of the people on this site. You are all so smart and kind and compassionate. I just keep reading and thinking how brilliant everyone is, and just great people.
Is it me or do any of you want to feel “normal” again? I guess that’s not the right word to use because what is normal right? I want to feel reassurance, safety, hope and comfort. Is that too much to ask today? I guess it’s just a process that needs to take it’s course. I’m unfomfortable, sad, angry and eventually will feel ready to move on.
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COMFORT?????????
HEY! just trying to find some kind of positivity in a very shitty situation.
She was stunned and extremely depressed. I would hardly call her “calm.”
I thought VickyT is a troll.Am I wrong?
Huh? I’ve been here for weeks if not months
Sorry but I thought I saw most of your comments deleted yesterday.
Yes, you have, but you never have anything positive to say about Jodi. Instead you make little digs here and there about her, her family and her situation. You remind me a little of that Demented chick.
No ……you ‘re not wrong maria…..big time TROLL….no need to be sorry to a troll!!!!
Vicky,
Your delusional, ” calm and at peace” WTF. She even stated that she was SHOCKED at the verdict, and she was going to take it one day at a time.
LOOKS LIKE YOUR A TROLL TRYING TO STIR UP DRAMA HERE TODAY…..
Jodi is NUMB, in a state of SHOCK, and she has remained CLAIM throughout this trial…. YOU want her to look like a RANTING LUNATIC? GOD YOU HAVE STRUCK A NERVE WITH ME TODAY….
VickyT,
She just got a M1 verdict, and you really think she’s a peace….that’s a really passive aggressive comment, and completely false.
I hope your not in the health care field, your patients will definitely not benefit from your “keen eye”
I agree Meow.
This feeling has haunted me since the verdict sunk in yesterday.
It was immediate because I personally couldn’t believe it at first.
The sorrow I feel for Jodi…
*wasnt immediate
I think I know what you mean a little. I feel annoyed and like I want to be in bed. I feel sad and like someone let me down. I don’t know if that makes sense. But I feel like the jurors let Jodi down. I don’t think they did what they were supposed to and I’m taking it too personally.
I agree, I think it’s going to be awhile before things get back to normal. I didn’t feel like Jodi was talking like she was at peace, she sounded defeated in my eyes.
Danielle, if yu were ever abused it IS personal.
I’d like to wake up just to see that it was all a nightmare and that stupid heartbreaking verdict hadnt been reached.
I want Jodi to be safe and brave.
Yes Meow….I really would like to feel “normal”, but I think that will take time.
Oh Great!!! A bomb threat in the courtroom of JA
Is her interview on Youtube? I totally missed that.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/22200056/2013/05/08/jodi-arias-talks-exclusively-with-fox-10-after-verdict
Try this link…there are eight segments.:)
ok, I turned on the Hitler Leader Network to see if a bomb threat was reported, I don’t see anything. Did anyone else hear this
yes…a bomb threat at the courthouse…it looks like the police was at the apartment of the person who tweeted the bomb threat..
If she gets the DP, as I expect, I hope Amnesty International or some other major group gets involved in the case.
This is that bad a human rights violation.
yes it is Tonysam. That’s the type of thing I’m hoping Jodi supporters will start doing (getting Human Rights organizations involved). This has to go well above the Arizona judicial system
I am sure somebody who is lurking here or even posting here has those kind of connections to get the ball rolling.
No bomb discovered, but will be swept right before trial convenes @ 1pm. Two people being questioned re: tweet sent.
Good afternoon my friends,
I couldn’t get in all night…is something wrong with the site?
I just wanted to talk to somebody,after the verdict 🙁
I just got text message that 2 people got arrested for bomb threat in Jodi’s trial. Any news?
I can’t bring myself to watch the trial today, and to see Jodi having to beg for her life, when she did exactly that… defended her life.
I hope this post go through.
There appears to be breaking news regarding the ME & EF changing stories and how it will play out today. Stay tuned. Seems to be in Jodi’s favor.
Well, it isn’t going to change the sentence given how stupid the jury happens to be.
No, tonysam, it will not change the verdict…….BUT this is not the end. Jodi will be vindicated.
Speaking from personal experience. My case was a disaster with a horrible verdict. Granted it was civil, but none the less, I appealed and took it to all the way to the supreme court and prevailed. So I am very hopeful. Please don’t be discouraged. She has so much in her favor at the appeals court. She will be victorious.
She WILL be, but it should take some major heavy-hitters willing to ignore the lynch mob to make sure she prevails.
That’s why I say if she gets the DP, as I expect, Amnesty International or some other major anti-DP organization steps up to the plate.
If it is HLN breaking news then….it will favor only the prosecution…
Which network is doing the breaking news???
There is some kind of a defense motion still alive, according to CNN. It’s has to do with an interview with some detective about the order of wounds inflicted on Travis and it conflicts with a version given in the trial. It could have an effect on the Aggravating Phase of the penalty sentencing today. I’m not sure I got this right because I missed part of it. This report comes from the female reporter on CNN who has followed this trial from the begging. She wears glasses that give her an “owl-like” look. Was she talking about Flores or someone else? She didn’t give the detective’s name? Anyone have any info on this motion?
I heard them say on HLN a few minutes ago or so….that the prosecutor is going to bring Dr. Horn back to the stand to talk about the wounds…
praying
OK! The new VENT page is up, for those that want to vent!
Email me if you want the password, as you’ll not get in without it.
SJ
Team Jodi
I got the password, SJ…….. where can I find the vent page?
https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/vent/
CAn you send to me, though I am afraid to see what lies in wait for me in my emails, I will venture there for this – I am so completely upset about this, I went home depressed with my husband and one son gloating, I was able to explain to my oldest son and beautiful daughter though. I love my husband and other son dearly, my husband “saved” me from my abuser but i cant convince him of Jodis innocence. I told him, you beat the crap out of Jeff, for me, what if there was a knife or gun there when Jeff tackled me down, maybe I would have grabbed them, we will never know. Let me tell you, my big 6ft 3in ex abuser came banging on my door, all night long, calling my new husband a p_&%sy over and over until my 5ft 9in husband came out of the door and knocked him to the ground and watched him snivle on off, that was a great moment let me tell you
Hi SJ
I would like the password. I am so pissed. I literally yelled at my cleaning lady today for saying the jury got it right. In 15 minutes I changed her mind. She had no idea about bc she listened to the news and such.
I am soooooo pissed! And I have been using much nicer language on this site than I have been discussing this with my husband.
Thanx SJ!!
Please email me if you haven’t already, SJ.
SJ…..I emailed you:>)
here is what I found on fb…
Bomb threat at the courthouse…. And they called us the “taliban.”
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2 people like this.
Joyce Loeppky Ya, the guy tweeted last night that he was going to plant an IED and then he would be a here….twitter name was grimlinskeleton
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Lola Rossi Trolls at the brink of desperation
20 minutes ago · Like · 2
Kathy Slusser Check Donoman’s phone records….
15 minutes ago · Like · 1
Kimberly Smeltzer Pate One of Jodi’s minions I’m sure.
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and now this….
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/two-arrested-in-connection-with-arias-bomb-threat-tweet
sounds like we got another person that wanted their “15 minutes of fame”…in a really bad way…hope they arrest his ass…
FUCK YOU KIMBERLY SMELTZER………
“minion” .. that’s a big word, I like it . . yeah I’m a Jodi minion . . sure beats being mormon moron or tataliban
haha…your on a roll Janeen! loving it
Nia Bedrossian is full of it. There’s no proof that they said anything about the Taliban, except on a Twitter page, whom he says he is “backed by” the Taliban, along with North Korea, ect.
https://twitter.com/GrimlinSkeleton
This individual is not affiliated with this site.
Claims as such will be treated as slander.
Here is the news article.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/20130509mcso-investigating-potential-phoenix-bomb-threat-abrk.html?nclick_check=1
I am so troubled that Jodi was allowed to do the interview after the verdict. As much as I wanted to hear from her, what is more important is her words NOT being able to be used against her AGAIN. I completly understand her compulsion to want to get her voice/thoughts out there-but JM has proven to use anything she says as formidable weapons against her. Does anyone know what the argument between Jodi and her attorneys was about? Was she angry about her defense (Or lack of) or was she insisting on doing the interview?
How on earth will they argue to save her life when Jodi has said she wants the death penalty? The death penalty takes a LONG time to take place and at least now Jodi gets to interact with her peers and have relationships. I cannot imagine her having to be in totat isolation by herself all day, every single day with only two hours outside twice a week. Can anyone advise?
They have no faith …
no belief in God.
This Alexander family,
and the multitude of Haters.
For if they did,
how could they ever .. pray,
pray for a woman’s death,
and cheer when it is granted.
They have no faith …
no belief in God, and …
if they should tell me otherwise,
i would call them liars …
one and all!
They are no judges …
this Alexander family,
nor the Haters, Martinez
nor the jurors themselves.
For there is only One True Judge …
our Heavenly Father,
and He will smile apon Jodi …
in this world and the next!
They will be judged …
this Alexander family,
and the Haters, Martinez
and the jurors themselves.
Woe to them …
when the mobs are gone,
and they stand alone!
Woe to them …
this Alexander family,
and the multitude,
when the One True Judges’ gavel falls …….
I shed a tear this day …
in Sadness and in Joy.
In Sadness as i feel Jodis pain …
in Joy as i know it is only temporary!
I love the poem all of it and this part is SO true:
They will be judged …
this Alexander family,
and the Haters, Martinez
and the jurors themselves
Sojourn, thanks a bunch for this post. It truly isn’t over…a verdict in their favor does NOT make them right.
SJ,
what is your email? I want the password for the vent site, please 🙂
ditto please
Same here!
Ditto ditto please…
I feel like my insides are going to explode…I need someplace to just scream…
jodiariasisinnocent@gmail.com
Thank you 🙂
thank you . . will check em
Will the second phase go on today until a verdict is reached…or will it last tomorrow too???
I have no idea but I’d guess the 2nd phase will take 3 days or less depending on how much witness testimony. Like in the 1st phase the prosecutor gets the first and last word in as they will try to prove “cruelty” beyond a reasonable doubt.
It is so sad that Jodi has become the scapegoat for the way people felt about OJ and Caseys acquitals, they believe they are making up for the fact that they were not convicted as the masses wanted so now these jurors will go on to be heros, in their own minds.
The pitchfork carriers are a bunch of troglodytes!
Finaly trying to gather my thoughts on all this. Im just in AW.
I just cant believe it. Never in all the world did I expect this
verdict. I am shocked……..
DID THE MORMON HIERARCHY PROMOTE AND ORCHESTRATE THE HATE JODI HYSTERIA AS A DIVERSION AWAY FROM THEIR CULT ?
i never looked at the circus, but from the reporting back here of what was taking place it seemed likely that it was being heavily pushed externally and because mormonism was intimately involved in this case it would be likely that operatives for the mormon hierarchy would be very concerned to divert attention away from scrutiny of them and onto jodi
the political, law enforcement, prosecutorial, and judicical system in hindsight seemed to be synchronized in this diversion
the governor said jodi was guilty during jury deliberations
the police hid evidence, etc
a vindictive. malicious, zealous and mentally unbalanced prosecutor was chosen
an incompetent judge was assigned to the case
unknown if she was simply incompetent, or a law and order judge, a prosecutors judge
It sure looks that way to me too, Wes.
looks that way to me too
What every happened with Chris Hughs getting into Travis’ email/instant messages and deleting them? I caught wind of something like that in a comment he said on Dr. Drew.
Bingo!!
You figured out what went wrong.
If you followed along with the testimony TA threatened to destroy Jodi.
We can only speculate as to why, but my guess is TA was advised to minimize Jodi’s credibility by his Mormon Bishop.
Mesa, AZ politics are controlled by the Mormon’s. And the DA & Judges are elected.
Keep studying Mormonism and reading about those who have escaped Mormonism to find your answers.
Meanwhile I will keep praying for all of you who are stunned. Yes, I am a Southern Baptist.
OJ and Casey have nothing to do with Jodi. She’s persecuted because she doesn’t follow the norm and act like everyone else. Could you imagine if Jodi had been a “slut” for real? All the info that’d be ou there? The other day someone was criticizing her genitalia! It’s horrible! There’s so much evidence this had no premeditation. It’s sickening. What woman plans to kill her lover and has pictures shot up close of her vagina and ass? Tell me? Who? She’s not a porn star. It’s disgusting. I’m truly heartbroken.
SJ i don’t know your e-mail, am I allowed to vent??
I don’t know about how many other people would feel the same as Jodi. But I put myself in her shoes and I would also prefer the DP over life in prison. I don’t agree that she made it public but I would feel the same way about it.
LC,
I understand. Being in Jody’s position I would feel the same way. To preface, I have been following HLN since yesterday and they are cruel, brutal, sadistic, evil to Jody. Not one kind word. They have participated in pulling people together to stone Jodi to death. They even have their own little town square at the court house where the lynch mob can form each day. And while everyone is in the HLN square people are interviewed saying how selfish Jody is, she doesn’t think of anyone but herself, she is not respectful to TA family, she is a liar(which she was given M1 for). It doesn’t matter the whole courtroom lied. Everything is Jodi’s fault according to HLN.
So here is Jodi, mixed up and thinking she is in love with this liar Travis(he lied a lot to himself also). Jodi ends up treated badly to the point of abuse. She still is attracted to him and she stops to visit. He once again becomes abusive and she fights for her life. TA lost his life.
Then, Jodi is so overwhelmed that she doesn’t know what to do. I would be that overwhelmed also. She spends two years coming to grips with this aweful traumatic event. Once she does piece it all together and is able to take responsibility she owns up to what she did.
She goes through 4 years in jail a lot of lawyer BS and she believes if she tells her story it will be understood. Even to the point of not telling everything about Travis to keep his reputation in death.
She goes through 56 days of trial with the Worst American Judicial System. Yet she still has belief that she has done the right thing. Why would she admit to it at all if she were a liar?
But to make everything worse, and we haven’t even spoke of the Mormon religion, there is a nationwide/worldwide show called HLN deciding to make the most serious issue that can happen for someone ENTERTAINMENT! And this is allowed. Even after Jodi’s conviction they make blatant statements about how unemotional, cold, and disrespectful Jodi was during the verdict hearing. They don’t stop! This young woman just got M1 and her life is on the line and you continue to talk to about her like she is a piece of meat HLN. I know there are lawyers that would take this on. This is the utmost form of abuse. With all the documentation, videos, everything there is so much that the Judge, her court, and HLN can be sued for.
HLN keeps playing when the verdict was read. It shows Jodi’s sitting there just trying to take it all in. Then they triple split the screen with Jodi and 2 videos of crowds outside the courthouse cheering and screaming in agreement with the verdict. That is like reading the story of Jesus Christ! How very sad and pathetic these people are acting. There by the Grace of God go I.
I don’t blame Jodi one bit for her thoughts and feelings. She knows they are just going to commit her to death. There is no one that will help her properly. This whole travesty of justice is playing out and this Arizona Court is allowing this to happen. Let’s put them in the real world. I just had some ideas of putting them in the real world but they will find the real world themselves.
Jodi isn’t playing victim. She is a real suffering human being. All these people are so cold hearted. I can totally understand where Jodi is coming from.
You nailed it. That really sums it up. My god it’s disgusting.
This whole thing is so upsetting. I believe that Jodi should take some responsibility (M2 or Manslaughter) BUT I really don’t believe this was premeditated. Does anyone know her mailing address? Is it true you can only send postcards?
Just read the following statement, which is so telling regarding the convoluted, unintelligent, emotion-dominated thinking of the general public, which should never be espoused by a state’s prosecutor’s office.
“In reaction to the verdict, Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery issued the following statement: “Today’s verdict closes the guilt phase of State v. Jodi Ann Arias. However, the pursuit of justice on behalf of Travis Alexander continues.”
The last sentence is the case in point. It is not the prosecutor’s responsibility to pursue justice for a victim, but to participate in determining a just outcome for all concerned. The prosecutor should not be an advocate for the victim or the victim’s family except in the case where there is no reasonable doubt, e.g., when there is direct testimony by credible witnesses and other corroborating evidence.
Justice implies a fair, balanced approach. Pursuing justice for the victim denies justice for the accused, who may or may not be guilty, and often is not guilty, but is convicted nonetheless. The Arias case was decided on very fragmentary evidence gratuitously pieced together in a shoddy patchwork quilt which was wrapped around the jurors’ minds by the prosecution’s abusive behavior. This construction was aided and abetted by HLN and others.
Yep. Sounds like a corrupt politician who wants to guarantee his re-election.
Too bad the ultimate outcome of this debacle won’t be in his favor.
“The Arias case was decided on very fragmentary evidence gratuitously pieced together in a shoddy patchwork quilt which was wrapped around the jurors’ minds by the prosecution’s abusive behavior. This construction was aided and abetted by HLN and others.” WELL SAID!
It seems the whole world is against Jodi. I know what she did was wrong but this whole case was handled so unfairly. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Since when is the public and a television network allowed to decide the outcome of a trial? If she gets the DP, “Dr.” Drew and Nancy Grace can put another notch in their belt for destroying yet another life. They, along with Jane V. Mitchell, Vinnie Politan and Joey something or other created the mob mentality that I am sure the jury saw every night. HLN is responsible for this whole fiasco and the verdict should be thrown out and a new trial ordered with the jury sequestered.
I also hope that she is able to get some therapy in jail/prison. I wonder if ALV or someone that she could recommend who is local would be allowed to give Jodi some psychotherapy. I’m not sure how visiting and all that works…
Jodi had bad counsel. Every lawyer/legal student in this country knows this. JM had a weak Pre-Med case. I agree w/ the moderator (of this site). The jury was contaminated w/ Casey Anthony + HLN and didn’t want the media scrutiny. ~ Pls convince Jodi to stop wanting the death penalty. Death is not the “ultimate freedom” and life is always precious.
She’s depressed/suicidal right now. Who wouldn’t be?
I think it would have behooved the defense to drive home over and over again that it was NOT Jodi’s job to prove that she DID NOT attack Travis, but rather the State’s job to prove she DID. The State proved nothing of the sort but I think the jury (along with most of the rest of this hate-mongering country) forgot that fundamental rule of law in our judicial system.
a vindictive. malicious, zealous and mentally unbalanced prosecutor was chosen
Well said!!!! Juan is the lunatic. Not Jodi.
And I think the judge was highly favorable to the prosecution. I hope to see the day this verdict is TOSSED and a new trial ordered. This trial was a sham.
I just can’t bear to watch the afternoon proceedings. I am in such pain over this. Dear Jodi…where there is life there is hope.
Somewhere out there, somebody knows a juror who didn’t follow the admonition. Please come forward. Do the right thing. Let’s get this conviction thrown out and avoid a new trial by allowing Jodi to take a plea like she wanted to in the beginning.
This is such a tragedy and words cannot express how heartsick I am today.
I don’t believe each of these jurors truly believed it was m1. I bet they had conversations with their families regarding the possible consequences of a lower conviction and decided it was worth the upheaval it would cause to their lives. I’m not sure we can blame the jurors. The fault should lie with the court, the media and the public lynch mobs. They literally made it impossible,
How long would an appeal court take to overturn the verdict? Is this a national court, as opposed to a state one? I don’t know how it works in America. Excuse my ignorance.;)
No, that’s a good question. I asked that earlier.
Appeals can go on for years and are rarely successful.
In most cases where an appeal does work it merely results in a new trial. Something really big needs to happen for a convict to walk free after an appeal (like evidence someone else committed the crime),
Or evidence that the detective and the ME lied?!!!!!
yea and like that’s not a BIG DEAL??!! There were a whole lot of fucked up shit tat went on in this trial that would qualify it for an appeal.
I know we’re not there yet, but the average time in the US spent on death row was 74 months in 1984, and that increased to 178 months in 2010.
That means the average death row inmate in US now spends 15 years appealing that sentence before execution.
Here’s a brochure about the appeals process in Arizona:
https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/documents/files/CriminalAppealsProcess.pdf
And then, here’s a description of what happens: http://www.capitalpunishmentincontext.org/resources/dpappealsprocess
As you can see, much of the appeals process is based on briefs (which are not exactly “brief” at all, but must contain case law — other cases which have been previously decided which show the errors claimed to have been made in the trial court). The briefs lay out the issues being appealed. The direct appeal a tough process because the appellant (the one filing the appeal — in this case, Jodi) through her lawyers, has to pick only a few issues to appeal on. Then, the other side, the appellee (in this case, the state of AZ) files an answer brief disputing those issues. Finally, the appellant files a reply brief, replying to that which was brought up in the appellee’s answer brief. Many months later, very brief oral arguments are scheduled in front of a panel of judges.
If the AZ Supreme Court agrees with the appellant, they may overturn the verdict and remand the case back for trial to the lower court, or they may simply overturn certain portions of the sentence. If the lower court’s verdict and sentencing is affirmed (agreed with) by the AZ Supreme Court, then the appellant can petition to the US Supreme Court. But the US Supreme Court does NOT take every case.
“The Direct Appeal
The direct appeal is an automatic appeal given to everyone sentenced to death. The appeal is made to the state’s highest court in which someone can seek an appeal from a conviction and death sentence. In some states, this appeal is mandatory but in others, it is optional for the defendant.
The direct appeal is limited to issues from the trial. Typically, the prosecutor and the defense file briefs and oral arguments are held before a panel of judges. After reviewing the case, the judges can affirm the conviction and sentence, reverse the conviction, or reverse the death sentence.
The direct appeal for federal cases is also limited to issues from the trial, but is handled by federal courts, rather than state courts.
Either losing side can then petition for a writ of certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court, requesting a review of federal constitutional issues.
State Post-Conviction
This is the second stage of the appellate process. Petitions are first filed with the original trial judge, then appealed to any intermediate courts (when applicable), and then finally to the state’s highest court. At this stage, the defendant may raise issues surrounding the conviction and sentence that are outside of the record. The defendant can raise issues such as ineffective assistance of counsel, juror misconduct, newly-discovered evidence and Brady violations (A Brady violation occurs when the state withholds evidence that could help the defense’s case). There are strict timelines that must be followed when filing this appeal, and missing a timeline may end a defendant’s appeals. The defendant may again choose to petition the U.S. Supreme Court for a writ of certiorari. If the Court denies the writ, the defendant has exhausted all State remedies, and the case can be continued in federal court.
Federal Habeas Corpus
Federal habeas corpus is the final stage of the appeals process, and is limited to federal issues raised on appeal in the State courts. For federal death row inmates, this is the stage of the appeals process that allows them to raise issues outside the trial record. The federal appeals process consists of three levels.
A petition to the U.S. District Court is the first step in federal post-conviction review. The decision is made by a judge reviewing briefs filed by the prosecution and the defense. The judge may also grant a hearing on new evidence. The judge can dismiss the petition, overturn the conviction, or overturn the sentence.
Permission to appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals is not automatic and must be granted by the U.S. District Court or the Court of Appeals. The appeal is limited to issues raised in the U.S. District Court. If the conviction or sentence is overturned in federal review, the state is usually given the opportunity to re-try the defendant. If the U.S. Court of Appeals denies relief, the only option is to petition the U.S. Supreme Court for a writ of certiorari.
The U.S. Supreme Court is the last resort for defendants appealing their death sentence. The Court, however, only reviews a handful of death penalty cases a year. When a writ of certiorari is denied by the U.S. Supreme Court, the defendant has exhausted his appeals. The only relief available to the defendant is executive clemency.
Executive Clemency
Executive clemency is the power held by a governor or other body to grant relief to a person facing execution. The governor may postpone an execution in order to allow time for further review or may commute a defendant’s death sentence to a lesser sentence, such as of life without parole.”
Is it true that Donovan won’t be able to communicate with Jodi now?? And when Jodi gets to a regular prison there in AZ will she be a able to get more than just a stupid post card? I want to write her a letter.
Jodi says she wants the “death penalty” but her eyes tell a different story. Deep down, she wants to live. Pls don’t give up on yourself, Jodi.
5/8/2013 REQ – Request – Party (001) 5/9/2013
NOTE: DEFENDANT’S REQUEST THAT VICTIM IMPACT EVIDENCE BE PRESENTED VIA VIDEOTAPE
What exactly does that mean. Eli?
Jodi has apparently motioned the court to present “victim impact statements” by videotape, rather than having the surviving family appear on the stand and testify to their statements.
You can read more about victim impact statements here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_impact_statement
In general, it would be Travis’s family speaking about how the loss of their brother has impacted their lives. (Yeah, I know, gag me with a spoon.)
Yes please eli.Some help?
what was the bomb threat for????? They got the guilty verdict they wanted?! I don’t get it, what else do they want?
I have no idea LC 🙁
I know nobody here would resort to violence. That’s the Travis Taliban’s way of handling things through threats of violence and intimidation and ruining people’s careers.
We are above that here.
I think the crowd that gathered yesterday would have killed her if they would have let her walk outside. They are haters and wanted to stone her to death. The girl clearly has mental issues that have gone on for years untreated as someone said here. God should give her, her punishment not the death penalty. Don’t give up Jodi. I know deep inside there is someone in her that is very damaged and hurt by this. She took her own life the same day she took Travis’s. Travis was clearly in a cult, treated her like trash all while he was acting like a man of God. Travis did not deserve to die, but he was surely no Angel they way Nancy Grace and all of the media would like you to believe. Of course all his cult friends are going to say he was the most wonderful man ever.
Great post. They would tear her limb from limb if they could get their hands on her. I think it’s psychological torture. They want to kill her over and over and over again. It’s sick.
I feel very badly for Jodi. People are acting like they are in middle school, criticizing her clothes, her hair and even Travis’ friends calling her a dork. You would think Travis was the second coming of Christ the way people just gush over him. I can’t help but think if Jodi were the one murdered and Travis were alive Nancy Grace and everyone else would be going on and on about how sick and twisted Travis and his sex fantasies are. Instead they downplay it like it’s no big deal. But you know Nancy Grace would be all over how disturbed he was if this were reversed. Regardless of what a person does a mob mentality does nothing but destroy the moral code our country strives for.
That is so true. I was thinking the same thing, they are like a nasty little clique who can’t say enough bad things about the person they’ve decided to target. They have to tear apart every little thing they can think of.
i too would like the pw please. my computer is in hospital trying to recover from virus, its hard typong on phone and tablet. but i want to say that i couldn’t sleep last night too upset. i want to take action. i still believe Jodi’s was a false confession and can anyone help me, i think if we all try to contact the people at falseconfessions dot org, and someone try to get more info from Jodi about a possibility of oths involved or at least no memory. maybe we could get the ball rolling on that and get some truth with justice.
if you guys think im nuts thats fine too, im just trying to be proactive as that is how i get when so terribly upset.
If you email SJ, he will reply to the request very quickly.
cindyp I dont think you are nuts at all, and if peeps think you are then that makes me nuts too. I concur!
Good to see others having the same problems with posting and page disappearing, I havent been able to post anything or get on site at times. I was beginning to think I was locked out for good. I was like Heelllooo oo oo oo can anybody hear me??? Please let me in! But I do have to say I have gotten much needed house cleaning done since I had no one to talk to and too many thoughts. Now I have to catch up on all the comments. I do want to say my heart goes out to Jodi today. Please dont give up!! Keep fighting Its not over!
ENOUGHis, I kept refreshing and refreshing and refreshing the page until I got through yesterday and when i commented I’d have to do the same thing…just when we need each other the most CRASH! It was awful.
Aint that the truth! I kept doing the same thing refreshing, hitting the back button, I’d get on then try to post and get kicked off again so i just gave up and started cleaning. I couldnt stop my mind from racing and I couldnt sit still.
Those HLN douchebags seem so happy that Jodi is coming from psych ward and will appear in court in her prison stripes! What is wrong with them?
Oh no! Their glee at her suffering knows no bounds.
WTH??? Why can’t she wear street clothes??? Isn’t that prejudicial??? OMG this is soooo wrong!
I just heard she is allowed to wear civilian clothes. That is ridiculously prejudcial to make her sit there in prison stripes! Although, with this debacle that is the trial you never know…
I believe they are “SOULLESS” .. the whole evil lot of them!
Taking joy in another persons misery & pain says alot about someones character …..
I really wish there were away for someone to bring some kind of legal action against HLN and all of their Ghouls!
Jodi will look beautiful in whatever she wears….they can insult her clothing all they want. It won’t change the beauty that is behind the clothes
It’s a lot better today than yesterday, but of course once the sentence is given, I expect the site to have trouble again.
It freaks me out when the site is unavailable. I couldn’t get in yesterday after the verdict and into the evening. I felt so alone….
I am lost without this site, even if I only post once in a great while.
I think we all felt VERY alone 🙁
Yes WE DID,Dorothy 🙁
This site is what’s been keeping us sane.
at least I am here today, and it does help, so thank you to all of you…
The mob at websleuths is now yelling for a public hanging. I don’t think I can keep following this spectacle as I’m feeling dirty and need of a shower just by reading over there!!
“Govt should bring back public hangings!”
OMG! You have got to be kidding me! They are sick! Absolutely SICK!
LOL……that drunk Jean Valeeez was just dissed by the TA Family. It was funny…she was stumbling for something to say…she was all uh, oh, uh…
To Clarify…she was conducting a riveting interview with some guy on what Jodi would be wearing today…and why not prison clothing. She then interrupted this guy because she spied the family approaching and tried to move near them as they were quickly moving away from her…none of them would give her the time of day.
It was just funny to see some one from HLN at a loss for words.
Kat K, Which family was approaching? The Arias family, I presume…
No….it was the TA family….ick, in know…but they way they just dissed HLN made me laugh. Jean was all a sputter.
They probably are awaiting an offer of payment for an interview…no freebees when you can soak all the money they can out of their brother’s death. They need to keep their profit up you know.
What kind of murderous people live in AZ. JM and a jury convicted a woman of M1 in 15 mins. I can’t stop crying for Jodi.
Carol, There are a couple of us here in AZ who are Jodi supporters. 🙂
That’s true, you and Jeff in Mesa.
and me
And me! I found you just recently but I am in AZ and I am a nice non mormon 🙂
Me, too. I’m in AZ 🙂
There are thousands of murders in the United States every year. Why did this one inspire such venomous hatred? There are some really nasty criminals out there who put absolutely no value on human life. Pedophiles and rapists and serial killers. I have never seen this kind of intense bloodlust directed at them. How did this happen?
It’s called misogyny.
Word!!
Yeah…I don’t remember Jeffrey Dahmer getting this much shit from the public, and I watched nearly all of his trial!
Because its a woman ofcours!!!
I ask that myself every day Linda.
I asked that about the Casey Anthony case, too.
Why out of all the atrocities that happen in America, they choose this one – and not only that, choose to attempt to discredit abuse victims across the nation by saying violence, ownership, rape, and abuse are normal?
It’s a tragedy, is what this is.
The worst part is its other women hating her more than men.
I know the people on this site are among those who are awake but my generation of young girls (born 1945) received a lot of subliminal messages about our overall need to have a man in our lives in order to survive (not only financially but, most of all, emotionally.) “Old maid” was a term that conjured up feelings of loneliness and desperation. Well, along with that message came another even more subliminal message: that one of the biggest threats to that survival goal were other women. Jodi is guilt of the crime of being [1] young, [2] pretty, [3] intelligent (or any combination thereof.)
Sadly, RB, not much has changed since then. I was born 20 years after you in 1965. I was still raised much the same way. Today, I work with girls in the their 20s who feel the same way, born 20-25 years after me.
It’s really sad, AA. But thank God for people like you who try to help young women past that debilitating belief that their whole value depends on how a man views her. Poor Jodi must have been fed the same BS. She saw her worth through Travis’ eyes and was thus vulnerable to his abuse.
very much agree with that Fujuan, in fact, I made a concerted effort to raise my daughter to support other women. To not be jealous, or competitive, for this very reason. And thank god, she’s not that way. Granted, if you piss her off, she’ll let you have it, but she’s not just blindly anti-woman.
So many women are, and its partly due to the media and their brainwashing of these young girls to compete for male attention. Some of it is nature, but most of it is our narcissistic society.
You have people who are involved in a religious sect or cult whose only objective is preserving image at all costs. They will lie in order to save face.
THAT is the difference between this and every other murder case in the country.
Canada Carol, what was the name of the inside edition documentary…sex, lies and …I forget, but THAT about sums up the fascination…the blood lust? I can’t for the life of me figure it out at all. It is beyond reason.
Perhaps the reason is that people view Jodi as the ultimate femme fetale?
You have an attractive female killer who destroyed a fit male twice her size in brutal fashion, while he was naked no less. And that was after she had sex with him and took naked pictures of him.
There can’t be too many cases like this around the country.
Yes, misogyny and mormonism, which is almost exactly the same thing.
I saw an earlier suggestion regarding how to proceed in impeaching jurors by examination of their computors and/or smart phones. It is an interesting idea, but I think it would be difficult to prove that accessing info about the case was carried out by the juror in question and not someone else. Still, I think that it would be really worthwhile for someone to investigate the correlation between juror questions and information presented on HLN just prior to the questions. Some participants here have suggested that they thought that the questions replicated statements made on HLN.
The strange mix of premeditation and felony murder would seem to suggest that something was amiss in the verdict. As someone commented earlier, M1 implies that she took the gun from her grandparents’ home and felony murder implies that she took TA’s gun in the commission of murder. It can’t be both ways. This is an indictment, it seems, of the reliability of information processing in this jury.
I agree. She either did one or the other not both. And time will tell. I was one that commented about the juror questions. It was a while ago but some of the questions had a sarcastic tone and there were questions especially to Jodi that were kind of out of the element of her testimony.
Ok, I am smoking my pipe now to calm my nerves!! The way I see this verdict is nothing short than an attempt to deflate the fury of the raging lynch mob.
The case is full of holes and will most certainly be won on appeals. The appeal process will take several years after which JA should receive a lesser sentence with credit of time served. My gut feeling tells me that JA WILL NEVER BE MURDERED BY THE STATE!!
No, they cannot have it both ways!! I can’t understand how the prosecution can accuse her of both stealing the gun from grandparents and stealing travis’ gun while in his house? Isn’t there a law against this? Any lawyers (AZ) out there? Looks like the prosecutor counted on the jury being dumb and easily swayed by his big mouth. I knew what he was doing at the time – turned out he was right to assume this.
I think the prosecutor’s whole presentation was too choppy. He’s was jumping back and forth – not very organized at all. I also don’t think the jury took enough time to go over all the facts of the case and discuss it thoroughly. There was a reason Jodi did what she did on that particular day. Something TA did caused her to react the way she did. And like I said before, I think the jury was watching and being influenced by TV and HLN in particular.
Oooh! Great points, about the types of questions and what was on HLN just beforehand.
You all are great, such good thinking on this site.
A related question: Can jurors be charged with perjury if they lied to the judge about following the admonition?
i think they can be charged with contempt of court and put in jail, not sure if there under oath or not
CNN has announced that a “Petition for Review” is being filed. It is a motion to dismiss the aggravator. If the aggravator is dismissed – the dp will be off the table. Don’t hold your breath though.
I honestly think she wants it…
I think Jodi wants the dp too…she said so herself on an interview following the verdict yesterday…the haters will probably WANT her to suffer for her natural life in prison because she said she would prefer the DP
Testing… testing…
YAY IT WORKS! I’ve been trying for a couple hours!
Me too! It was like being stuck in a glass box. I could see everyone but they couldn’t see me.
Yay!
Hooray! It told me I was posting comments too fast and I hadn’t even posted since this morning!
Hey Rachel…site is crazy today but not as crazy as yesterday.
Hey Dorothy! Yeah today it’s calmed down a little, thankfully. I would go crazy if I couldn’t post here during today’s stream.
Watching Jodi’s interview and he asked Jodi her thoughts on Nancy and Jodi said she doesn’t think she’s worth it! That was the saddest interview but that was the best sentence.
It was very sad, but that was the best line. I don’t see Jodi like the talking heads. She is devastated, and she is a type of person that just covers up emotions and feelings. She’s a mess but she doesn’t show it.
Definitely THE VERY BEST part of that interview…I wonder if the Nancy’s last name was deleted or if he just asked abut Nancy without mentioning “grace”. seemed like her last name was edited out…?
SJ can I get the pw please?
Awww man, you mean I have to see The Puppet Master again?
I’ll bet he has a full 1/2 inch erection going today.
HAHAHA, omfg.
So true…
LOL Joe 😆
Hahahahaha You owe me a keyboard for that one. I just spit my water all over it.
I kept asking the haters “what did Jodi ever do to you”? They are very cruel and want that poor angel to die. I hope Jodi knows we love her.
As we learned in a galaxy far far away, hate is very strong on the dark side of the force.
Judge Sherry is hopefully going to be in hot water later for what Juror 8 has stated to the press. They did not abide the admonitions and this verdict needs to go in the garbage.
what number 8 has said is more good news for jodi’s defense team
i hope there’s a channel from “team jodi” here to jodi’s defense team through which all relevant material is passed along ?
My grandfather died today and I can’t send Jodi the enegry she needs but I want her to know I am still thinking of her.
sorry for your loss Amy
My sympathies Amy. I’m sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss too Amy. My thoughts are with you.
SJ
Team Jodi
My deepest condolences.
So touching to see you’re thinking of Jodi at this difficult time…
Oh my gosh! I’m so sorry to hear about your dad passing. *hugs*
<3
Positive thoughts your way, Amy <3
((((((((Amy)))))))) words cannot express the hugeness of loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours at this time. ♥
OH AMY! I am SO sorry! (((BIG HUGS))) to you and your family. 😥
omg…my condolences to you and your family Amy…..
I so understand your grief, after losing my mom, brother and nephew in a 6 month time period, its all you can do to be there for your family. Sending strength and understanding your way.
Prayers, and so sorry for your loss…:{
So sorry for your loss Amy
I’m so sorry for you Amy on the loss of your grandpa. Much love and sympathy to you and your family.
So very sorry, Amy. I’ve lost both of my grandmothers, but I still feel them with me. Yours will always be with you too.
((((Amy)))) so sorry to hear that, Amy.
I’m so sorry about your grandfather, Amy. I’ll keep you and your family in my thoughts.
While I know it’s not the same, I lost my most beloved and last gerbil yesterday. He was 3.5, so very old for a gerbil, but it all came suddenly. He was fine until he had a stroke. We brought him to my fiance’s parents’ house to bury him in their back yard and arrived right as the verdict was read. I felt very very raw.
so sorry for your loss amy
So sorry Amy.
There is a serious problem with the judicial system in this country. Human beings are imperfect processors of information. This is a well documented fact in psychology. The old adage: “Two heads are better than one” is a reflection of the common sense awareness of this imperfection.
The imperfection and the likelihood of false positive verdict (guilty as charged) is magnified in a complex case like this one that transpired over 4-5 months and involved a ton of testimony. Jurors, in my opionion should be selected (1) for their capacity to function analytically and intuitively using both deductive and inductive reasoning and (2) for their independence in thinking.
Human beings are easily led and manipulated often without their awareness that this is happening. Also, they tend to make decisions which they think are rational in nature, although these decisions are being made by their brains operating on autopilot in a reactive rather than responsive way. When one adds the influence of social and mass media in the case of an unsequestered jury, the imperfection in information processing is magnified to an enormous degree.
Juries should be constituted so that “twelve heads are better than one” (or two vociferous hotheads). There should be redundancy in information processing that allows generally unnoted evidence that is inconsistent with other evidence to emerge and converge toward a new conclusion.
Perhaps, juries should be assisted in processing information by the developments in technology. We know that meteorologists and other scientists use computers to process complex data before rendering their conclusions or decisions. Perhaps, someone will develop a computer model for evidence processing that will bring out facts that the imperfect individual brain cannot apprehend. Something must be done to avoid the kind of debacle that we have seen here.
Beautiful post Gulliver, thank you.
Did you ever get around to posting those test results? I hope I didn’t miss them!
But more importantly, did you ever get around to convincing anyone from the Travis Taliban to take the test? Or did they respond the way you thought they would?
Thanks, MB. No, I have not posted the test results yet, but plan to do so, soon. How soon, I’ll not say. Very busy time for me. And, I didn’t get a chance to try to persuade the Travis Taliban to complete the questionnaire. I still may do this before posting the results. Bottom line: I haven’t forgotten. A promise is a promise 🙂
“These decisions are being made by their brains operating in autopilot in a reactive way rather than a responsive way.” My thoughts exactly.
With the amount of time they spent talking with one another, I think ‘group think’ came into play here.
Has Al or Sirlips posted today? Would love to get their insight on the appeal.
Somebody made the comment here, sorry i cant remember who, that they thought deanna slashed TA’s tires and sent the email, which got me thinking. I bet TA was still banging deanna when he met Jodi and that is why TA didnt want deanna to see them together. I bet deanna was the jealous one doing all the dirty deeds and JA got the blame.
He also said that any wife of his will have to learn to deal with Deanna.
He never liked the idea of letting any woman go. When Lisa read him the riot act, and told him to never talk to her again, he did anyway and weaseled his way back into her life.
IMO that’s exactly what he did when Jodi took her trip.
I had forgot about that. Deanna made the comment on drew (i refuse to call him a dr) why didnt jodi just move on…Well deanna why didnt you just move on..TA didnt want to marry her but his wife would have to deal with her…thats creepy. it would be like dealing with an ex-wife, or should I say a JEALOUS ex-wife.
That’s because Travis wanted many wives and probably wanted his first to be like 13 or 14 years old then he’d get around to Deanna (god almighty she is nasty) and the rest. Deanna never moved on and if any man told me I had to put up with that meddlesome COW I would bitch slapped him. If he loved her so much he would have married her.
I’d never want to marry someone who told me that I had to “deal” with an ex-girlfriend, like it or not. What a douchebag.
You know, one thing I know about abusers is that they lie lie lie and launch smear campaigns against their exes. Maybe Deanna DID move on but Travis kept pulling her back. Before you judge, let me just tell you a little story from my life.
I was married to my ex-husband for 10 years (actually I should say 11 years, because it took over a year for our divorce), and with him for 13 years from 1998-2011. But prior to us getting together that time, we originally dated in 1991-1992. In 1992, he broke up with me, without warning, no argument nothing — but he kept seeing me anyway for a few months, until I said “stop”. Within a month of me saying that, he married someone else — an old girlfriend who lived in another state. He called me up to tell me about his marriage. I was shocked because when he’d spoken about her previously, he’d always made her out to be such a terrible bitch. He didn’t move to live with her until 4 months after they got married. He called to tell me that one too, but I was no longer taking his calls. (Of course, I didn’t know the real truth of why he moved there until 2011 when he was arrested. He was a convicted felon and was to serve time in a federal prison. He married her so he could avail of one of the nicest federal prisons in the country.)
Fast forward to 1998 when he came back into my life. He was divorced for several years and oh, what a sad tale he told (of course, completely leaving out his time in federal prison) of his dreadful marriage to this complete bitch. At the end, she was cheating on him with her ex-boyfriend, who she subsequently married. According to him, she called him at work to meet her at her therapist’s office that evening, and told him she had rented him an apartment and moved all his stuff there after he left work that morning. She had also changed the locks on the apartment where he lived with her. He was not to go back there. After that, she hired a lawyer for the divorce — which he didn’t understand — who got super nasty with him (even though neither one of them allegedly had any money) and raked him over the coals, even bringing up that he was a recovering alcoholic. I couldn’t believe my ears (and later, learned I shouldn’t have). What a bitch to do all this to a nice guy like him!
While we were together, she (allegedly) attempted to contact him over and over to apologize. In 2009, she got a FB page and tracked him down on there, begging him to contact her. When he repeatedly refused, she enlisted the help of a mutual friend to “beg him” to get in touch. It was such a dilemma for him: should he, shouldn’t he. I finally got upset at the mutual friend (who I also knew) and told her to stop because it was causing him so much grief.
In 2011, after he tried to kill me, I discovered the real truth. First of all, whether the therapist’s office story ever occurred or not, the prosecutor told me that ex-wife of his had filed for an order of protection against him for domestic violence. If the therapist’s story WAS true, perhaps she served the order on him there.
After his arrest, he moved in with a new victim who he’d been having an affair with. A few months later, she threw him out when he tried to assault her, and we spoke at length. Apparently, he was the one pursuing the old ex-wife all along. He told the mistress the same stories about the old ex, but also added to it that I was jealous of the old ex so he hadn’t been allowed to speak with her when she wanted to apologize to him for what she’d done to him. Of course, he never told the mistress about the order of protection either. In his stories to the mistress, I was a villain too, of course.
The moral of my story here is that you never really know the whole truth. Deanna may well be the one who ended things. Abusers don’t take that very well. And so, she became his stalker — or so, he told others.
Same here. Men claiming the reverse of what was actually happening, smear campaign, stalking.
Travis fits the mold. He had a lot of reasons to blame everything on Jodi.
Watched this on tv last night… I agree with Jon Stewart.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-takes-cnn-to-task-with-epic-mockery-of-networks-jodi-arias-trial-coverage/
OMG I love Jon Stewart!!!!
Did you notice how NOBODY cheered when he said Jodi was found guilty?
I wish I had comedy central again. Now I’m curious what his take on this case is!!!
shit encrusted carnival cruise ship lololololololol
That about sums up the disaster that is HLN!!!!
I love the freeze-frame he chose of Nancy Disgrace’s face! She looks like the conniving doofus wench she is!
me too!! lol!!
That freeze frame was priceless…. LOL 😆
He didn’t revel in the “glory” of the guilty verdict and didn’t allow his audience to, either. I respect him so much!
hahaha…just posted that to Nasty G’s facebook page!! hahahaha
HAAAAAAAA He made them look so stupid (not very hard to do) anyway! Loved it! lol
LOVE LOVE LOVE Jon Stewart!!
I agree with having a private place for venting (if you do may I have the password also). But – I do think we should keep a public place – somewhere where people can go and see how we feel – and maybe just maybe change some hearts. I truly do not understand these people. Look, I have a son 35 y/o and God Forbid something happened to him. Yet, if something did, I cannot imagine wishing death on anyone else. And it just so happens in this case, the crimes against Jodi were totally ignored. I read a post up there ^^^^ and someone talked about Jodi being pretty and smart. She is, that is her crime to so many of the haters. I still can’t believe the bogus verdict.
I agree, Mary. We should definitely continue to post our support publicly, here. =)
I HAVEN’T CHANGED MY MIND OR MY VERDICT, JODI IS STILL INNOCENT
NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS, JUSTIFIABLE SELF DEFENSE
a further thought lending more support to the idea that the judge was simply a law and order judge who did what the prosecutor wanted, another prosecutors judge
THE EXCESSIVE AND UNREASONABLE BAIL REQUIREMENTS PUT ON JODI
$2 million was excessive
4 1/2 years in jail with the sole purpose being to to weaken her spirit
the legislation allows additional considerations for a person charged with murder
but it also must pass federal constitutional muster
jodi was not a flight risk etc
it now seems that the judge was clearly vindictive in settting bail so high, to protect her ass, and with the purpose of demoralizing jodi, the defendant, presumed innocent, and make it difficult for her to participate in her defense
the federal constitution says if bail is granted it shall not be excessive
the 8th amendment:
“Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. :
the arizona law on bail is at
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/03961.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
its simple to read
but the first part reads
” 13-3961. Offenses not bailable; purpose; preconviction; exceptions
A. A person who is in custody shall not be admitted to bail if the proof is evident or the presumption great that the person is guilty of the offense charged and the offense charged is one of the following:
1. A capital offense.’
etc
the presumption of guilt was NOT great and so did not apply to jodi
it would apply say where a hundred people observed A shoot B
LET’S REMAIN STRONG FOR JODI
WE ALL GET LOW AT TIMES
WE’RE NOT GOING TO THROW IN THE TOWEL FOR JODI
LET’S FIGHT FOR HER, IN ALL THE WAYS WE’VE DONE
AND HELP HER KEEP UP HER SPIRITS WHILE THIS FIGHT CONTINUES
THE FIGHT TO RIGHT THE MORAL AND LEGAL WRONGS THAT WERE CONTAINED IN THE JURY’S VERDICTS
Anything on the sentencing yet? I refuse to watch the feed.
Ditto
Just got text. the penalty phase begins
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Looks like JM’s ‘wife’/cane lady is on HLN touting him – “JM for Governor”!! Yeah, right!
she is going after her firecracker lol
wow after hours of trying to tell you how great you all are I finally might get the chance of my post going through
Team Jodi you are all amazing and wonderful
I am afraid to watch trial today, I have been afraid to have to listen to the Alexander show trying to impress the jury with their grief. Who is going to hold my hand through this?????
Virtual hand extended. 🙂
thank you D; reaching out for your hand. Lets do it
I’m holding your hand, vebe! =)
thank you (((((((((((((((((Sil))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
http://www.azcriminallawsexcrimes.com/violent-crimes/jodi-arias-trial/unraveling-justice/
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Mom just turned on the sound on HLN. Why? Who knows. But this guy was like I hope we got out there who TA really is. I’m thinking yeah you all did that’s why I’m typing on this site and not on one of your sites buddy.
Wow
I got through. Thought I’d been cut off and was very sad. Couldn’t talk to my buds anymore.
Couldn’t figure out what I’d done to piss people off.
Anyhoo
Hi Folks
Hi Al,
Its been a bitch trying to get on here… some of us are on the private Vent page, but I am also going to post here. I am going to watch the continuing circus today, although my heart is heavy.
Hi Al we need you to put up here a good post what would make us hopeful
Me too Al!! I was a bit depressed as I couldn’t post! Missed chatting w/ everyone today. And I hope that Juror #8 has some interesting info on jury misconduct to share!
Yes!!!! It went through!!! Thought I said something wrong today!!!! Jury tainted, afraid, successful appeal, JUSTIC FOR JODI!!! <3
Al, you’ve been sorely missed, buddy! We need your perspective on all this, and soon. Make us understand, please.
Does anyone else still have the Seal on? Is it going to be live?
Yes, seal and cameras will be running.
I’ve still got the seal up, Maria.
I think this will be very difficult to watch Maria. I’m not going to. I just can’t bear it.
yes media still in the hallway waiting
Thank you guys,I thought my live feed got frozen.
I know it’s going to be hard,I’ll probably be crying my eyes out but I just HAVE TO see Jodi’s face,I need to see if she’s ok or how she’s handling it.
Sadly, it appears that Jodi was moved to a psych ward and is being watched according to HLN. Court has been canceled until May 15th.
Oh God. Beth is saying there is a delay, but the doors were open to allow Dr. Drew and Katy Wick in. Puke.
Testing. missing page from this morning?
not sure where that page went viri..I finally got on…gave up was getting depressed..turned off HLN, got some sun, then thought I’d try to get back on! I snapped at my hubby on phone today as I was bummed about site!!! Thank god, I don’t have to listen to HLN and can get caught up on here! Please Lord, don’t let this site go down or have prob again!!!
I asked the haters on #JodiArias who deserves the Death Penalty if it can be only one. Jodi or Ariel Castro the Cleveland kidnapper/rapist/torturer
Maybe he’s a closet Mormon.
Lets see how deep the hate runs.
keep us posted Joe 🙂
Good question, Joe. I asked myself that question last night. Now, I do NOT under any circumstances believe in the death penalty. But I asked myself, if I was required to give someone the death penalty (or lose my own life) and had two choices, who would it be? The answer is soooo easy.
Praying for you Jodi…
Jodi should stay seated when the dipchit judge says to rise for the jury.
I would, what are they gonna do, hold her in contempt? Screw that stupid arse jury and the judge and kermit and the court and the whole flippin system.
Wild About Trial says no court today (????)
So this guy deliberately beheads some other guy in Chandler as a drug war message and the State pleas him out for murder 2 and he gets 16 years. Justice in AZ.
sorry 14 years
ARE YOU F@#$$ING KIDDING ME!!!
Yeah, disgusting.
See, like I said before, our system is PURE BS!!!
I am baking a cake … who has the file and hacksaw ready?
Just when I think the filth can pile no higher…it always does. That enrages me.
Court cancelled!
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 2m
No court today. Reconvene May 15th at 10am
wondering what is going on ………or should I be worried
HLN says no court today no explanation.
May 15th!
I confess. I am a hater. I hate HLN. I hate the blood thirsty lynch mobs. I hate lunatic prosecutors, lying MEs and detectives, and guilty verdicts based on lies.
Me too. It is easy to hate sometimes.
What the fuck!?
just heard court canceled until may 15 no explanantion why
Jodi was moved to a psych ward and put on suicide watch based on the reports from CNN. I wonder if she wants to waive the further proceedings. So sad.
No court today. Rescheduled for May 15th. Imagine that
I’m not going to be home all day May 15th! Chaperoning a field trip… Good Lord!!! 😡
Court cancelled for today. God bless Jodi.
I cannot watch. The sibs who never saw or barely talked to their brother talking about what they will miss in their lives? Blech.
Nancy H, Blech is right. Looking for handouts and pity…soon enough though the creeps will crawl back into their holes and hopefully, with all their new found wealth, they will revisit their neighborhood crack house and party all their money and their lives away…except for the 10% that the good ole chult of Mormon gets, of course.
The seal when down!!!
Man I REALLY REALLY hate Arizona.
*went*
Wow, TRIAL IS CANCELLED FOR TODAY!! will resume on May 15th!
This is a good thing IMO. I hope she throws that damn verdict out— Juror 8 all but admitted they did not abide by the admonitions!
Whoa, what did Juror 8 say?
Harmony, he said that the jurors used their i-pads, other electronic equipment while they were together in the jury room of the courthouse, besides doing crossword puzzles and jigsaw puzzles.
Dorothy, I hope that this is in clear violation of jury duties!! Maybe that is what happened today?? Discussion over jury mis-conduct, regardless of the re-scheduling??
What’s happening may be due to Jodi’s state of mind. But all we can do is speculate at this point.
no court today all canceled until next Wednesday
there must be something serious going on for them to postpone until nxt Wednesday
This is a comment to the haters who think it’s okay to post video of Sandy Arias on that state page while judging her.
How dare you losers attack a mother. How dare you self righteous assholes think you have a right to JUDGE the love of a mother. You can say what you want about us but I can tell you, what I think of those of you who are participating in online, ongoing vitrol toward Sandy Arias is far worse than you think of us.
You are the epitome of “loser”, “classless” and your behavior shows you lack EMPATHY which is the very thing you constantly diagnose Jodi with. Seek help because you need it. Any woman or man who is a parent and is also judging another parent for doing exactly what she is hardwired to do, shows you are hardwired with the very personality construct you despise!
You espouse HATE.
ANd I pray for your children daily. We should probably set up a fund for counseling for your children. What a miserable life they must have having you as mother or father. You have shown yourself to be abusive in your reaction to Sandy. Life has a weird way of balancing the scales and you can mark my words, you there will come a time you will want to be understood and you will remember how you hated on Jodi’s family, who were innocent in all this and only guilty of loving their child and you will feel remorse ( if you are capable) but i doubt that.
You sick fools.
Good one! How sickening!
Same, same. Well said.
Well said! Wow, and these are the same people who condemn mothers if they don’t do everything to protect their kids.
What stupid stupid people, more than that, what utterly sexist, disturbing people. They can’t have it both ways.
I think they must hate their children on a subconsciousness level or something. They always ask us, “what if travis was your son” as if we can’t empathize. There is no difference between travis’ family and jodi’s family. None as both parties are innocent. “Well jodi’s alive” they whine, piss and moan. THAT is a WEAK argument to justify the hatred the profess. So fricking what if Sandy wrote a letter to the judge asking that he stay on. Who wouldn’t as a mother do anything to help their daughter.
Jodi is facing death. Her family has the right to support her. They are doing what parents do. And you know full well had they disvowed their own daughter, that these same haters would say, “see why Jodi’s messed up, her parents don’t even support her.” These ppl dont really care about Sandy or Bill supporting or not supporting. They just want a reason to run someone into the ground because that can’t get away with in their own life. If these people acted the way they do online in real time, i bet their loved ones would disavow them and they would be fired from their jobs! So they take their petty misery, the issues they haven’t worked through and project their own issues onto people.
Jodi’s parents have to be escorted in by deputees. There is something wrong in this world when that has to happen and nobody in the media says a word. we never hear of a report on how Sandy and Bill feel, what their pain is like because these haters act like they deserve this pain! UNREAL. ANd these same losers brag about their prayers. Sick. We are not the wrong ones here. They are. Every post on that state page, has been hateful toward the family clear back when it had 80 likes. The mods, seemed to feel that Sandy had no right to sell Jodi’s letters which by the way was just a big rumor and they well knew it. It’s sick, it’s bullying, and they are wrong.
Ooooh I hear you JC I do *hugs*
It’s not enough that they’ve piled on Jodi, they have piled on her family and victimized them too.
Drew Pinsky used to say that when we blame the parents, we create more victims.
I didn’t see him protecting them!!! I didn’t see him standing up to NG, JVM, or all the other HLN trash talkers throwing them under the bus!!
This is a great post. So was the one above it. You guys rock.
Nice comments. The haters are nothing more than a lynch mob. I can’t believe that Jean Cesarez was pointing a microphone in the face of Jodi’s mom as she exited the psych ward where they are keeping Jodi.
Unbelievable. I wouldn’t be able to look her in the face after all the trashing she’s done to her daughter on TV.
I concur, JC. Those folks are the worst kind of hypocrites.
Sick,sick bastards!!!
Well said JC!!!
I agree. All the haters should please leave Sandy alone, and for that matter just stay off of this site and let us all alone to speak amongst ourselves! Even thought we all know there are some unanswered questions, we believe we are right and that Jodi is innocent! Bless Jodi and her family!
These people feed on hate! They thrive on negative energy. They are like a black hole, the only way you can escape it is by increasing your distance from it. The more you fight and respond with remarks, the more you get sucked into their whirlpool of hate.
Eventually this “black hole” will fizzle out of existence…aka Evaporate. KEEP YOUR DISTANCE FROM THEM AND AVOIDE THEIR NEGATIVE ENERGY.
I totally agree with you ROAK
They are making a big deal that Jodi’s grandmother didn’t use a wheel chair leaving court yesterday. Calling this elderly woman a fake. To a few peoples credit they did condemn that, but most did not.
I second that. It applies to the whole HLN crew as well. They will remember some day how they hated Jodi and what they did to this innocent young woman. They’re not fit to wash her feet.
I was just thinking how ironic it is how the HLN crew are always criticizing what Jodi did and every little move she makes or doesn’t make – constantly judging her and what would happen if the tables were turned on them and we critiqued everything they had done in their lives. None of them have led angelic lives either. I wonder how they would stand up to having that done to them. Just look up background information on JVM, DP, and NG.
Amen to that JC!!
Just when I thought these sickos couldn’t get any viler!!!
Amen
I agree. Good post.
Well said JC! I wonder what other countries think of the lynch mob outside the courthouse?? As an American, I am ashamed..disgusting, barbaric!!
til wednesday. Any explanation?
I guess the jury needs of another week of HLN brainwashing before they can really give it to Jodi.
What’s going on???
I hope Jodi is ok and this postponing has nothing to do with her mental health 🙁
Me, too, Maria! That was my very FIRST thought!
Chris Williams Chris Williams @chriswnews 2m
Handful of #JodiArias trial watchers, #TravisAlexander supporters, had tears in eyes waking out. Wouldn’t talk
Chris Williams @chriswnews 1m
#JodiArias family friend told me no reason given yet for cancellation he expects something at some point. Went back into courtroom
Penalty phase rescheduled for may 15th
What does this mean & why would she request this?
DEFENDANT’S REQUEST THAT VICTIM IMPACT EVIDENCE BE PRESENTED VIA VIDEOTAPE
maybe to let her family make their statements through video ?
Isn’t victim impact his family’s statements?
oh okay thank you Nk .)
Here’s the motion if you would like to see it:
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kpho/KPHO%20NEWS/defensemotion.pdf
Jodi has been taken to a psyche ward on suicide watch!
Beth Karas was speculating that perhaps her attorneys felt they could no longer represent her in good faith since she said she wanted the death penalty in the interview. Also she was speculating about her mental status.
She should not have done that interview. She learned nothing from those stupid interviews she did before? I have to admit my stock in Jodi dropped when I saw that.
Ditto. I’m really thinking its about that interview and what she said and how they put her on suicide watch not just for suicide but so she can’t talk to the media while on watch
Remember she also said that lately her and nurmi haven’t gotten along and its about what she wanted and what he wanted not being on the same page
My stock in Jodi didn’t drop at all. She probably figures, “What the fuck do I have to lose at this point?’
Kira-
I believe you are correct. Jodi needs an intervention to be deprogrammed from the occult that has brainwashed her. TA took no time at all to send the missionaries to her to begin the methodical brainwashing so he could be her very own cult leader. I may be wrong, but her statement about death being the ultimate freedom, wreaks of cult talk. I’m quite certain she has not been able to recieve the psychological intervention that she needs while in jail to be fully deprogrammed. Poor girl has been betrayed, attacked by the cult leader and the other minions, lied about and forced to protect her very life. Then to top it all off, the cult has continued to visit her in prison, clearly to keep her right where they wanted her for thier own purposes. All this trauma alone would make her suicidal. I have great hope for her to overcome this once she is free, because she is a strong person.
Jeff, Perhaps at this point Jodi just wants it over and done with. “Give me liberty or give me death”. I can’t say as I blame her for wanting her “ultimate freedom”. I know it may be hard to understand for some, but her hopes for a fair trial and an impartial jury were dashed. She has dealt with one fiasco after another. Maybe she feels, “I don’t give a FUCK anymore…I’m done”. It is sad, but her reality may be too hard to face after she has tried to hold on to hope and it all ending up like it did.
Beth Karras needs to shut the fuck up.
Speculation has been what this sham of a trial has been about.
That is NOT journalism.
they didn’t used to be quite this bad TS..I guess they realized that whipping viewers into a frenzy after CA’s trial meant big ratings, so they threw objective journalism out the frickin window!!!!
could be Jodi fired them, i personally think they did a terrible job
I’d give them a 7 out of 10. Jodi needed a shark on that team.
This train is going off the tracks. Taking a week off? More than just Jodi’s state of mind in question here.
that is what I am thinking
Yesterdays Texas Mistrial shows proof that emotion is not checked at the door of the deliberation room.
11-1
One courageous juror.
http://www.statesman.com/news/news/crime-law/mistrial-declared-in-2011-stabbing-death-trial/nXkkJ/
I hope Jodi’s okay!
Prayers that Jodi is ok….going to go walk my dog, then back to the vent page! That’s my new page, I do believe!!
And screw you haters, you can’t come and play with us there! hahahahha
where is the vent page? Lot of wind here.
send SJ an email and get the password..he’ll give you the link
thanx, done
viri, Well I guess you are all going to leave us…what do you mean by “lots of wind here” ?
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Jean C. just reporting that jury, attorneys, both families everybody still in the courtroom. HLN wondering why.
Couldn’t post for hours – how do I get the password to “vent”?
E-mail SJ.
I’ve tried posting a couple of times and it says my comment is being held for moderator. How do I know when and where my comments are posted. I want to be a part of this and don’t even know if my comments get put up.
How do I know when they are posted and where to find them. This is sooooo frustrating. Please help!
that is only for your first post. Now that your first post is showing your next posts will be posted immediately. I use ctrl f to find my posts
I’m not a hater and I feel so bad for Jodi. My prayers are with her family now. I know how it feels to have a daughter in prison. I have watched so many parents crying as they visit their child. I have seen the child crying out to their parents just wanting to be hold. Begging to come home. I don’t want to think that Jodi will be one of them now. Her family will never be the same. Holidays will come to mean nothing but another day to them. I guess I just feel bad. I know how they will feel, because I too have a daughter in prison.
I am so sorry to hear this. It must be torture for you. Stay strong, love Jessie
(((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))) Kris
So sad for HLN. They had champagne on ice, some drugs for Vinnie, balloons up, some clowns (other clowns) on stand-by and Nasty even had her twins there for their initial indoctrination into hate. Now, they have to wait until May 15. Dr. Quack is going to do some grief counseling with them as soon as he learns how from Google. They’re also trying to find some film of starving people to entertain them so the afternoon won’t be completely wasted.
wow amazing!
I picture her twins like those evil ones from the Shining.
lol!!!!
Hilarious! Have you seen her twins?
Hopefully, they are normal. Those kids should have had their “clean slate” mommy-protected.
Perfectly said ColdCase!!!
What did I miss about Juror 8 and the admonition, anyone have a link to that? I am really worried right now, why court is postponed a freakin week.
I hope it was postponed Harmony due to maybe an investigation into jury misconduct?????? I don’t know much about the legal system, I’m thinking that would be a good thing,and new trial granted and more evidence in our favor granted, and sequestered jury this time??? The lies from ME and Flores red flagged?????? I can only hope that something good can still happen here!!
I posted it up above. He basically said the jurors used iphones, ipods and pads while in the jury room. He expected the verdict.
I think there is something really going on. What if Jodi is in the psych hospital. Do you think she finally broke under all this pressure?
Damn, this is just getting crazier.
Hummmm I only pray that Jodi’s defense isnt quitting.
I really think they are asking to have her evaluated.
Sounds like it.
I don’t know you guys, I’m really worried that this will just stir up the blood lusting jury! Hoping that it’s Juanabee’s fault!! Maybe he’s not tall enough for the death penalty trial.
Now they are questioning if the delay is so that Jodi can be evaluated by a psychiatrist. Does anyone think that is good for the defense maybe? Something to hope for anyway until next Wednesday.
I heard yesterday on the LipTv that if she wants to have her verdict dp, without the penalty phase that is what they would do.
They would have known that well before trial would have started I would imagine though.
It is scheduled for May 15 my birthday….. hummmm wonderful just a thought jodi may have said see wanted death to protect the Hughes for if they were involved in the murder they can now raise the son Travis molested to me she is a saint just hate that she still believes in the Mormon faith now that is sick.
I never can understand anything you write. Punctuation would help, thank you.
really ??? spellchecking at a time like this?
how do you get punctuation to work just learn how to use the spell checker
JEAN JEAN JEAN :EVIL:
lol theirsanewdictionarythatireadfromitsawesome
Chrysz I think that Jean is part of HLN damn bitch if I had a voodoo doll I would stick pins in her bitch get off our site or I will call the Team on you skanky ass bitch
Tonya, Don’t worry about Jean and her nasty comment. Those of us who know you read everything you write AND WE understand you. Jean doesn’t matter. You are fine. I am glad you figured out the spell check XXOO 🙂
Tonya-
Just ignore these vile hateful people and post away !
jean sometimes even my spell checker can’t even correct my spelling.. It’s rude to call out peps spelling, unless you just think your superior to them..I’m thinking that may be the case
Jean, that was unnecessary. Tonya is a long time supporter of this page. She had some issues with her spelling and figured out how to fix her spelling. Not all of us (including myself) write with ease. I have dyslexia and it is quite difficult for me to read…but I can always understand what Tonya has to say. If you slow down and read her comments, they do make sense! She is passionate, considerate, compassionate and kind. She has enlightening things to say. So …if you feel it is too much bother for you, then DON’T read her comments and don’t reply to them.
thank you for standing up for me dorothy 🙄
Hugs Tonya don’t let her get to you, We all love you.
thanks cindy jewell 🙂 good now all over with
Love you, tonya! Don’t let that troll upset you. =)
We do not criticize one another on the site..
Really Jean? I understand Tonya perfectly. And some of her messages are amazing. So what if she doesn’t use punctuation? Concentrate for a minute and you’ll get it. It’s not like she ever writes a book. Her messages are always short and just require a teeny bit of concentration. It’s well worth it.
Sheesh. Who are you, the grammar police?
Ya know I’m just looking for someone to rip tonight, There’s. enough. BS going on with out someone pulling this shit.
i love tonya and i think that was rude. says a lot about you.
Screw you jean! Understand that?
^ what Kmiller said!
I’m a wee-bit confused??? . . . Hln just reported that Jodi’s is in a psych ward because of the comments she made on the fox interview..so they put her in a psych ward?? …. The state of AZ is trying to kill her with a suportive sit-in audience also in favor of the DP in her face all year long and when she says she wants to get the DP part over with if that’s gonna be the decision and throws her hands up and then the jail turns around and puts her in psych.. That seriously has to fuck with Jodi’s mind..it would with mine: youre legally trying to have me killed, I finally throw my hands up I the air and say fine just get it over with and am being deemed in need of psych care..it’s like why put her there only to get her back on a positive track to possibly prepare to die if that ends up ultimately being the outcome?
Kind of makes you wonder about the sanity of the people persecuting (SC) her, doesn’t it?
I agree Rachel, they are psychos, not Jodi.
They want their witches to be begging for their life before they burn them in the Grand Inquisition Bureau of Arizona.
Yeah, odd, isn’t it?
They want to kill her and that’s justice.
She wants to die and she needs a psych ward.
The law is that you cannot put someone to death unless they can understand why you are doing it, so you have to be competent to make the choice. If she is found competent to wave the DP phase of trial and elect to have it, she could be executed within a few months!
It is very odd that they do things this way.
Well put. It’s incredible.
A suicidal response to this situation is NOT irrational. But, getting someone “healthy” so she can face her potential executioners is?
Hi Kira!
**They want their witches to be begging for their life before they burn them **
It makes me SICK.
They are just like ALL abusers: they have an INSATIABLE NEED for COMPLETE CONTROL!
Grrrr 👿
And they are so STUPID – they cannot even SEE how IRRATIONAL they are – augh!!!! 👿
GO sable 👿 people…… I was mad at god today and told him how could you let that crowd of Normans pray to you to get the jury to give Jodi the death penalty he sent rain and lighting to let me know he was here and he heard me.
She said the same thing before thr trial and they didn’t put her in a psycho ward.
I think they are putting the WRONG person in there.
Let’s put all of the talking heads in the psych ward.
I suspect the prosecution is dissecting and twisting her interview from last night and preparing to use it against her:-(
Would they do that? (mock disbelief!)
why would mimi me want to do that he told everyone she is a lier so she did not tell the truth when she told the camera she wanted to die
excuse me for asking but what is that page
Protected: VENT ?
a safe place for us to vent it all out!!
oh wow that is cool and a smart idea
how to get in ? through my wordpress?
saw the answer above
thank you
So guys a while ago I had done some research on AZ’s verdict status on capital cases. They have a guilty verdict factory down there.
Here’s what I found.
A total of 80% of all AZ capital verdicts are overturned on appeal. Most on direct appeal to the state appeals court (like 67%) and the remaining 14% on the federal level.
One of the few states that had a worse record was my home state of Maryland, where a 100% in the last 10 years were reversed. As a result the state repealed has the DP.
Now that I know I haven’t been cut off by SJ and the other powers that be, sometime tonight I will post some stuff that’s been rattling around in my brain since yesterday.
In the meantime, here’s something that always soothes my soul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgoRDvMIJLg
And to my buddy Jennifer, here it is again, sweetie – play it loud. Jerry’s last one. I was there.
Wow. That’s pretty bad. Note to self: stay in PA. Oh and don’t murder people.
Yep, and we don’t allow cameras in the courtroom here!
Al, isn’t there a law that he is to be reffered to as “The jerry” from some point on. If not, there should be.
FUCK!!!!!! I can’t believe this shit. seriously, i keep thinking about what has happened and i just can’t believe our system has gotten to the point it is at. And, that the masses can not see it. Infact they feel it is “better than ever” and actually use this trial as their proof. (shaking head)
Its the ole’ frog in the boiling water experiment… You put a frog in boiling water, he will jump out as if he was thrown into…Boiling water. Then you put the same frog in a pot of room temp. water and turn the burner on, the frog will stay in the pot, and not realize the water is getting hotter and hotter, until it is boiling and the frog is dead. These people are the 2nd frog.
Jerry’s Jerry – just Jerry and there’s is only one Jerry.
Question: Hope this isn’t a dumb question, but… okay, if people/jurors who live in AZ KNOW (because they LIVE there) that 80% of the time that they give someone the death penalty it gets overturned, wouldn’t that ENCOURAGE them to NOT take their jurorship all that seriously in the first place? I mean, it almost gives them a readymade rationalization to use when faced with the decision about whether to risk being mauled by a lynch mob to tell themselves, “oh, it’s okay, I’m not REALLY sending an innocent person to death row, cuz, it will get overturned by appeal anyway…”
Ewww… I just do not ever want to even travel THROUGH that State…..except…. I know that RB and Jeff in Mesa are level-headed, so I guess the whole population cannot be idiots, and I like Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly, too, but WTF is WRONG with such a huge slice of the populace there that this kind of shit is allowed to happen?
Al-
What happens to the defendant when the verdict is overturned. Are they given a new trial?
I’m not Al, but in some cases, yes, the defendant is given a new trial — but it’s usually remanded back to the trial court with instructions. In other cases, the appellate court may simply decide to change the sentence — although that would be rare if the jury determines the sentence (which requires them to find aggravation).
Thanks Also. Jodi would have a snowball’s chance in hell in getting a fair trial in Maricopa County ever!!!!
Hang in there…sorry to hear you continue to have such a difficult time at work. Bullying in the workplace is out of control. There is a bill in front of my State’s legislature that if it becomes Law, would give people protections against bullying without having to be in a protected class. Every State needs these laws. Good luck to you.
I bet it is because of Jodi’s mental health. The comments she made about wanting to die after the verdict yesterday are so disturbing. I am so worried for her. She needs real help, poor baby. I know this may be a stupid question but does Jodi know about all of us here in our little community, and that she has a lot of us who really care about her? She needs to know we are on her side. Love you guys, Jessie
They had all morning to postpone due to mental health—its not just that. Something else has happened.
Beth Karas @BethKaras 2m
The courtroom doors are locked to the media and general public. But the families on both sides are inside
Why would they still be inside when the trial’s cancelled?Could it be a closed hearing?wtf??
it is a closed hearing
Can a mistrial be declared after a verdict? I wonder if the judge is looking into what the juror said.
She should be— that juror was on the jury until almost to the end. One way or the other, this verdict is not going to stick even if it takes awhile.
what did he say?
eli, Also Abused posted a link at 9:44 am somewhere at the top of this page. You can see his little interview.
why should that not be possible at this point that could be the best thing happening
Don’t know what’s going on, but hypothetically – yes a mistrial can still be declared since this trial isn’t over yet. Also, there is a process by which the defense can immediately appeal a verdict to the trial court itself, which can review the record and act much as an appeals court would.
But I really doubt if that’s what’s going on here. May be something to do with the yahoos arrested for the bomb threat.
This verdict, and the trial itself are just a sham, and really, at this moment there isn’t even any perception of justice in as far as I am concerned.
So who knows what alone is going on?
Sadly HLN and other media have destroyed any credibility that Jodi has. They have not provided adequate time to discuss Travis’ lies and deceit, his abuse of Jodi or his pedophile tendencies (no normal guy makes reference to a 12 year old having an orgasm but that was widely ignored even though he says it himself). Obviously, this jury was clearly tainted. I have no doubt whatsoever that this was not premeditated or she would have killed him much earlier and in the shower and not left behind the incriminating evidence. Why is it that few can see this?
the conviction will not stick! the judge was awful. many mistakes will be found and her defense team was lacking!. jodi keep your chin up and dont plead out when it’s overturned!
I hope so Elaine!!
Jeffrey Evan Gold @jeffgoldesq 4m
Weird drama n #jodiarias public let in court, media not, then public let out holding secret y trial continued 2 next Wed? Closed hearing now
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MaryEllen Resendez MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 4m
Still on 5th floor waiting 4 answers — even some court officials surprised @ the cancellation & media locked out of #jodiarias courtroom
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Beth Karas Beth Karas @BethKaras 6m
Arias has been on suicide watch since last night. It’s unclear whether the delay is related to it. #jodiarias
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MaryEllen Resendez MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 7m
Not sure what to make of #jodiarias court being cancelled. Jurors & both families are still in courtroom, media and public locked out.
Damn media should have been locked out from the beginning. Then one unbiased reporter who is held to a standard and required to report factually BOTH sides of the proceedings so people will know what really happened and not HLN’s version. It is like they compete to see who can have the most outrageous “bombshell” of the day. We are effing cretins in the USA.
I can’t wait for trial on the 15th. I hope Jodi is ok in her cell. Now that the verdict is out, I wonder if Jodi will come forward with any additional info to shed light on some of the unanswered questions – now would be a great time!
It sounds like she is being watched constantly now. That would drive ME crazy!
I’ve been on suicide watch — although not at a jail, but in a hospital. They watched through a little window and I couldn’t have a razor without supervision or anything sharp. It was awful.
HLN interviewed a woman who knows Dr. Horn who was surprised when he found out he wouldnt be testifying today. They think it must have been a surprise to the prosecution whatever is going on.
So there were EMTs at the court house for another person and JVM and her bobble head asked them if it was about Jodi Arias and they said to her – Not everything is about Jodi Arias. Good job EMTs in AZ. If only they would have added, bitch on the end. LOL!! That’s so mean, I’m sorry!!! I would have loved to hear that.
LOL G1 . .
Maybe JVM is upset she isn’t getting any, so she’s taking out her frustration that way…or maybe she secretly has a crush on Jodi?
Everyone has feelings for Jodi! 🙂
So says JM
Someone needs to put a sock in her mouth.
I will send her some socks
Used smelly ones please. I’m sorry I’m being mean. I just can’t stand her! I think she works at HLN bc no one else would hire her.
I will put fish in each of them that should do the job
lol
how about fish that have been lying on a sandy beach in the hot sun ALL afternoon?
you need to be mean we have been infiltrated by Jean on HLN I know I feel it in my bones get the bitch
Good one. 🙂
Lawyers in chambers, jurors in jury room and family in court room.
Does anyone know if we can still write Jodi during this time? I actually have a postcard to send her.
Not sure. I know even convicted felons have a pen pal program, so I imagine she should be allowed to get mail as long as she does not get the DP.
She will not be able to sell art work though
NK,
I wonder if she can GIVE them to her mother so they can at least be displayed on the internet. I expect paintings that the public couldn’t buy (plus Jodi’s notoriety) would cause them to sky-rocket in value. The Alexander family (or the state/court) might even agree to a 50-50 deal with Jodi (if that is legal) because 50% of something is better than nothing.
http://strikelawyer.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/the-grim-result-of-the-jodi-arias-trial/
Great article. I especially liked the phrase “execrable Nancy Grace.” Perfect description. I hope SJ has built a special place for Nasty Grace in the Rant Room.
Not so she can rant. God forbid. So we can rant at her.
How about a dart board with her face on it. I was going to suggest a toilet with her face at the bottom of the bowl so we can……no, we’re better than that.
great article, eli. thanx!
Jodi said she hopes she gets death – I hope she doesn’t mean that!
They said all the lawyers are back in chambers with the judge. That’s what HLN said, but I don’t know how they would know that. All they know for sure is that the families, the lawyers, the jury, the judge…none have left yet.
Watching the clip of her interview. She seems like a broken woman. I hope her spirit isn’t fully broken.
vinny politan from hln looks like he should be on suicide watch tonight!
Could we have a volunteer to sit with Vinnie to make sure he’s OK? Hello! Any volunteers? Hello…anybody…..Oh well, I wonder what’s on TV?
jane velez mitchell looks like she might fall off the wagon tonight, hope she doesnt drink and drive.
People in recovery usually try to lead a “spiritual” (not necessarily religious) type of life. I guess she was talking when that was suggested.
JVM doesn’t follow the principles of a twelve step program. She may be dry, but I wouldn’t call her sober. She may say she’s in recover, but it doesn’t mean she has quality sobriety. She wouldn’t be spouting all the crap she does if she lived the principles.
*recovery*
Could her lawyers file a motion at this time for something? Could a high court be getting involved? SJ sirlips do you guys know?
Repost from earlier
Don’t know what’s going on, but hypothetically – yes a mistrial can still be declared since this trial isn’t over yet. Also, there is a process by which the defense can immediately appeal a verdict to the trial court itself, which can review the record and act much as an appeals court would.
But I doubt it.
There is an issue of competency – if they feel Jodi’s going off the deep end then the trial stops till she’s stable again.
There could also be a jury issue –
Could be a discussion of the motion to videotape the impact statements or whatever they are.
where can i get the entire interview that Jodi gave after court yesterday. the ones i find are just clips
They haven’t put up the entire interview yet. There are 9 clips and the reporter said he will try to get the entire interview up in a day or so. Meanwhile, Tawni Dilly on YouTube has edited the clips into one video which is slightly easier to watch than on the Fox10 page.
Today I feel regenerated. Now more than ever I know that we will prevail. I think this verdict needed to happen so that we could end this sham of a trial and the begin the true pursuit of justice.
TEAM JODI FOREVER!!
I’m confused and trying to gather it up but might be easier here . . anyone hear a man talking to JVM saying they didn’t know they had to do any more after they made the guilty verdict . . so today was an absolute suprize to them?
I think he was talking about a trial he was on in the past. He isn’t on Jodi’s jury… At least I don’t think
k Brenda thank you .. guess wishful thinking
Oh, Dr. Demented, could you do a reading comprehension test on this poor juror? Shit, never mind. Wrong case. And, no, Doctor, you’re not getting paid for doing nothing. I don’t care if Dr. Quack gets paid for doing nothing.
Beth Karas reports that there are sheriff deputies from the jail that just entered courtroom. I love it that the media are locked out.
I wonder if they are in chambers discussing if Juan is allowed to play last nights interview for jury
What is the point with this interview? Jodi already said the same thing in a previous interview. I doubt it matters. Dont think it is about that, could be, but just considering they already have her on tape, and they were allowed to play it, I think it has to be something else
Absolutley AA,
WHY wouldn’t Jodi have PTSD as much as the policemam would have after having to kill some one?
Jodi is the last person I could possiibly think of doing ANYTHING like that unless she was struggling to save her life.
Even the so-called women that were supposed to be women activist have been absolutley
hateful to a woman that has never been in any kind of trouble before. I believe her when she says she was surprised that the juror’s verdict was premeditation.
Jodi couldn’t have done that unless she knew she was going to die and she was only protecting herself
ans STILL wanted to protect Travis’s reputation.
I also think that Jodi wanted to say what she wanted to and it didn’t hurt her t all. IMO
All of the talking heads are pissed because she took the wind out of their sail.
I think her interview was probably like I said her wanting to say something and I don’t blame her at all.
I’m sure the Travis family and so called friends were all over talking about it,
They have been and we know most of them didn’t even get to meet Jodi before this.
She knew Travis better than his whole family and friends.
I HOPE out of this all of the corruption is brought out in the light.
Some times it takes some BIG to open people eyes!
I ONLY wish nothing but the best for her.
I know this is a pipe dream, but I would love to see the Alexander family have compassion for the Arias family and ask that Jodi’s life be spared.
D,
If they did, it would show a great generosity of spirit – and win them a better class of followers.
whats going on with juror #8, anyone???
He gave an interview—see link above
I can’t find a link?
You might have to click on one of the videos at the bottom of the featured video to find Gibbs’s comments.
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2366976303001
I dont see him telling anything to result in a mistrial
eli, that the jury was allowed access to their smart phones, i-pads, whatever in the jury room. Also that he KNEW that this would be the jury’s verdict, possibly indicating that there had been some discussion of their opinions among one another prior to deliberation…I do not think that the delay has anything to do with that…but whatever it is…we will find out soon enough. I expect it is due to Jodi’s state of mind perhaps, but the again, that is also speculation.
I doubt this judge would grant one either Eli, but it just might be “enough” for an appellate issue that they had access to smart devices and WiFi. Also, that’s an edited clip. I think the defense should be able to subpoena the entire interview and interview that former juror. Perhaps he knows more.
AA
For sure he knows more. The question would be is he willing to tell more? Is Judge St willing to listen to that ? Is she willing to bear the consequences and deal with these accordingly ?
Dear God. I am so afraid that Jodi might have requested to skip the hearing and just take the death penalty. Praying for strength for Jodi and family.
JVM reports Jodi was brought in a special pysh vehicle, was in building dressed in civilian clothes when something must have happened.
(psych vehicle)
I just heard that Joey Jackson (maybe Joey) said that the Alexander family can attach Jodi’s commosary account to the civil suit! How can we donate to make sure that the money goes to Sandy Arias instead?
I wish that guy would drop dead.
He is a convert of the evil side.
I heard the state can do that before the civil suit for restitution, so any money would have to be sent to her mother and also Jodi can give her artwork as gifts to family members or others, then they can sell it or do want ever they want and there’s nothing the Alexanders could do about it. So there is a work around it.
Should i wait before i donate money for Jodi?
My Mom is sitting here and she just got so overwhelmed and upset. She just put it perfectly she said – I feel so bad for that poor girl she just got completely screwed.
Well its like my boyfriend pointed out it has NOTHING to do with her firing her lawyers or that her lawyers quit because we have a confirmed return date of the 15th . if it had anything to do with them it would be left open ended till she had new representation . So here is my question can a higher court get involved or could a motion be filed at this point? Your thoughts please
Of course. It would be delayed indefinitely if that were the case.
Chris Williams @chriswnews 1m
Some of #TravisAlexander’s family standing near sideroom outside of ctroom. Not talking to media. #JodiArias
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#travisalexander family has just been brought out …standing in a side hall with security…faces solemn.
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Chris Williams @chriswnews 1m
Unusual activity even for the #JodiArias trial. More security than normal. Those I’ve seen for months acting particularly stressed.
Attorney on HLN said if Jodi wants death and both sides agree, they can skip the penalty phase. I hope that they are doing a competency hearing on her.
I don’t believe it.
I wonder if there have been any motions for a mistrial discussed.
No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!
Her attorneys cant agree to that! No. Appeal first. If they lose appeal, then she can decide.
Especially when an overturned verdict is a sure thing like in this case.
Did I miss the memo? Where does one get the password to review the posts under VENT?
Ask SJ.
Hi Trixeks, you have to email SJ. Plz do, we’re having lots of fun on the other side!
Does anyone know if a M1 conviction calls for mandatory life if the death penalty is rejected?
The judge could sentence her to life with parole after 25 years, but with this judge, I don’t think that would happen.
Thanks. Yeah I don’t think so either. I think she is chomping at the bit to hand out the death penalty. It is so barbaric.
Do you think that juror is trying to stir shit up? He knows they were looking stuff up etc. so he said that stuff on purpose in that interview? Maybe he would have been that hold out? He’s bitter! Hmmmmm?
Where is this interview?
Here:
http://www.azcentral.com/video/#/News/Dismissed+Arias+juror+speaks+about+verdict/40280768001/35150280001/2366976303001
It’s the DUI guy, Gibbs.
Suspicious he would be arrested for DUI while on the jury. Pretty stupid to drink or get stoned then drive, but he could have been tailed.
Thanks! Looks like they took it down!
It’s still there.
So if he knew that’s what was coming then they had their minds made up a long time ago. Sounds like they also had devices to look things up…hmmmmm!
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You’re right, especially given the fact this thing will certainly be overturned.
There is an entire encyclopedia’s worth of issues to overturn a verdict and sentence.
Are you saying there was juror misconduct?
I am not sure why that post was deleted.
HLN families left out the back. TA family escorted by a bunch of deputies. Jodi’s family no escorts.
How come Jodi’s family does not get protection?
ok why would deputies and us marshalls be going in an out as stated by the hln lady who came out and talked to JVM
I wonder if it has to do with the bomb threat.
I wonder if that isn’t the real reason trial was canceled today.
I don’t think they would have kept so many people in the courtroom if there were a bomb threat. I wonder if they were talking about jurors looking at the media.
wouldnt they have wanted ppl out of the building if bomb threat not lock them in?? IDK
People are upset that Jodi may be in a ward, due to her saying she would rather die? Isn’t that were she should be? I would hope they try to protect her, even from herself.
Then again, shouldnt she have the right to die, if she wants to? I don’t agree with the DP at all. But i do believe that people own their own life, no matter what, and if they chose to end it…then they can choose to end it. Now, we need to be careful that people that are not in a “good” frame of mind dont make rash choices about dying, but in the end, after thought, i think we should all be able to choose if we want to die.
Wait, i know whats going on…They are going to charge her with pre-meditated attempted murder! She is planning to kill….herself. After the bullshit charge they just got to stick, this should be a breeze for them. 10 minute trial, 2 minute deliberation, guilty!!! They will give her the death penalty TWICE now. After all, she supposedly killed travis 3 times, so they are going to kill her twice. (please pinch me, i dont like this dream anymore)
I see what you’re saying (and I agree about right to die), but I also see the other point being made – the State is sending mixed signals. On one hand, they say “We just might kill you.” On the other hand they’re like “But we can’t let you kill yourself.” WTF
They don’t want her to make any decision. They want to CONTROL her to the bitter end.
Read somewhere that AZ automatically puts a person convicted in DP case on suicide watch. Jodi wants death sooner than later. I understand her position. I, too, would want that for myself. But she shouldn’t give anyone the satisfaction of killing herself. They would call her a coward and we know that she is not. Let the State, JM, Flores and TA’s family incur the bad karma should she be executed.
When will we wake up from this nightmare sirlips?
I keep thinking I’ll get on here and read, “UPDATE: MISTRIAL, JURY WAS PAID BY ALEXANDER FAMILY”
Wishful thinking.
They’re too cheap for that. Most likely the Mormons, Kermit and his police cronies got to them by threats.
how do you get sj’s email ?
Search for his posts on this page. He has posted it.
to all my family here Jean Casarez is on this site and looking us up she did not like what I had to say about the hughes and said I had bad punctuation habbit
jean is mad because she wanted jodi and jodi shot her ugly ass down, Jean needs to check the mirror and wave to the skeleton looking back at her
She’s scrawny and not as young as she thinks she is! Short, short dress in court? Charming.
Much too old to be wearing such attire, as my mama always says some things are just better covered up.
oh that was her? thought it was an odd comment, but then I thought that some of us are just a little sensitive these days
No, not HLN Jean. Some other Jean.
wait, who was she posting under?
Ok, nevermind I see what’s going on.
NO worries Tonya, it’s not Jinkasaurus!
test?
YAY BeeCee! Liftoff! 😀
Though I am not part of team Jodi, because I do believe that she is guilty of M2. I also believe that people are blinded by hate for a woman that they dont even know. Why cant people hate the crime and not the person? I have some compassion for Jodi because she is having some mental problems. It makes me uncomfortable and even sick to my stomach that Americans want to give a person with emotional/mental problems the death penalty. I think it is wrong. And I am from the other camp, but do you see that we dont all have to argue and hate each other and that we can all have opinions and muster up some compassion for a fellow human being? Like it or not, Jodi is human. Travis was far from perfect. I am neither a Travis fan or a Jodi fan, I am just a person who is outraged with this mob mentality of wanting to kill this woman. Isn’t life in prison enough? Isnt the fact that she is having emotional problems enough?
Gina, I am in so agreement with you. I feel so much sorrow for Jodi, her family, for Travis, and Travis’s family.
She had no emotional problems until Travis got to her, then tried to kill her, and now Arizona, the haters and Travis’ family want to kill her and expect her to beg them fucks for her life. She is innocent and killed in self-defense. There is no evidence for M2 either.
i second that viri!
People are misinterpreting her parents interrogations…clearly she needed help while she was WITH TRAVIS. that is when it all started.
I second that Gina!
Agreed. This is a horrible tragedy for all. I can see the emotional/mental problems Jodi grappled with in her life. I can see that Travis should have been able to live out his natural life. But he is dead and nothing will bring him back. Forgiveness, compassion is what is needed not the lynch mob mentality that is infecting our judicial system.
How do I email SJ? I want to go to the VENT page, but I can not see how to email SJ to ask.
guess no vent for me : (
I just emailed you
SJ
Team Jodi
why would you think that ?
just go over to the page about us and look for SJ’s email address send him an e-mail then wait and that is it
I want to vent, too.
SJ
Can I get a password for the vent site too – please, pretty please, huh?
Better wear earplugs, Theresa & Al, I hear it’s pretty noisy in there. Al, maybe you could take some GD music along so everyone can mellow out before coming back out here.
Me too! I don’t know we’re to go.
Are we supposed to post our vents elsewhere?
Venting would be nice Would luv to
I cant believe how Jodis family must feel
brother wants food have to go cook shrimp for his ass and I just made him tuna sandwich and chips anyway
Watch Jean is larking on her bitch need an attitude adjustment mess with me and you mess with all of us here bitch
Well if we all go over to the vent page, this page will be empty. LOL
When I want to vent I just go to Youtube and attack vulnerable Jodi-hater’s weaknesses. They can be easy targets because hate is difficult to defend.
LOL
that’s a good hobby coldcase!
I wish I had time to take it up.
LMAO
So the juror interview was taken down! Can someone please tell me what was said
He said they all became close played cross word puzzles and played with their phones and tablets. I paraphrased but that’s the gist.
Last I looked, it wasn’t taken down at all.
Hmm says video isnt available. Well thanks for info ! So he didn’t imply juror misconduct … Thought maybe that had to do with the delay
if it is taken down can we assume that there will be a chance that that they want to take a closer look on it ? I just hope this guy is telling the truth and is not going to back off
MC Superior Court @courtpio 2m
The State v Jodi Arias trial will resume with the aggravation phase on 5/15 at 10am. Today’s court proceedings were sealed.
what the heck happened?
Any idea what the sealed proceedings were about?
I’ve been trying to post for a day or so and my posts have all been disappearing. I will try again:
Just some remarks made by Judge Larry Siedlin(I’m not sure if the name is spelled right) of Anna Nicole Smith tragedy reference. Last night on television, he expressed significant concerns about the verdict in Jodi’s trial and mentioned how unfair this trial has been. He also said it was fueled by a lynch mob mentality and indicated that this isn’t the way our court system should work. I certainly agree 100%.
I agree with that 100%
Agreed!!
Mattie,
The same judge also mentioned a couple of days ago there are Mormons on the jury (he claimed to have inside information) but didn’t say how many. It’s kind of like having Travis’s relatives on the jury although maybe to a lesser degree.
Agreed!
didnt they say CH, SH, were with family and DR was in witness room? anybody see them leave the building with family?
dont know but they did say that the let the family of travis and his friends that probably included the hughes they into all kinds of shit now that she is given 1st degree murder and wants her dead now
The Hughes are not family. They need to go the fuck home.
I agree a 100% on that with you, just the bare look of them tells me something is wrong with them. I know that is no news, but I still think their interest in this case is not about TA. i know there have been posts about that before, but I loathe them so intense that I can’t get myself into looking into that. To me they are worse then the family
I think they need to testify under oath.
Why, they didn’t, I don’t know. Same with the roommates.
Remember Jodi said that she is praying for each jury after the verdict? Jodi is not done yet there is more to come. Suicide watch now and time is of the crucial essence for this next phase. So here it is, Jodi will be at least re-evaluated by a psychiatrist and hopefully obtain a complete health history, meds, etc. There are gaps not addressed about her state of mind in her younger days. How she dealt with very difficult situations. I remember in her journals when TA did not call her for weeks, she would break down and crawl into bed to sleep. She is mentally depressed and has been through many episodes in her life, so this suicide watch, is her way of coping yet another let down in her life. You have been strong loving supporters of Jodi. I do hope she has someone or at least a few ppl with whom she feels completely comfortable with, to give her sanity to live. In the courtroom tape, I noticed to new faces looking at Jodi. One in blue and one in red, very beautiful women? They may be dear friends of hers. So I believe Jodi is not done yet. She has lost a lot of wt. Also, I am not sure if people are allowed to continue meds taken from home. Everything about the case was handled by the worst group of cowards who lynched against her. It is a no-brainer injustice trial ever watched. I felt transported into the 1600s, when innocent die because of a mob mentality. HLN is a mob media. They all need to be replaced!
Then if there were a mistrial, it needs to be relocated. Jury must be mixed religion and fair gender selection. Jodi is smarter than we think. If she could get away unscathed from the struggle with TA, I think she knows something we don’t know yet. If it comes out, someone here would have been right to point it out. I think it was journee…… Jodi needs mental help, her meds, and support from ppl who can understand the way her mind thinks.
I am so glad I found this website. That there are still some rational thinking people. I am so sick of the mob out there ranting for Jodi’s blood. And the crazies on HLN. She seems like such a gentle, intelligent, sensitive person. Whatever happened to self defense. I think that if she did not stop him that night, she may have been killed. I just hope some miracle happens to turn this around. I hope Jodi can read this website. Thanks to whoever started it.
macey 🙂 we are family here and welcome
SJ, I want to pass on that info I couldn’t post yesterday, you should still have the email-I’ll send another JIC. Password & I’ll go up & find link for vent site…
THANKS!!
L
Good evening everyone,
Such a long sad day, no sleep last night at all, and feeling sad and disturbed all day. Was getting ready to watch the trial when I heard it was postponed.. No news yet, but over time, we will find out what it was about. I have a feeling it is about Jodi’s interview last night after the verdict, and being on suicide watch at a different facility. Just my opinion, (of course) but it’s very likely that her attorneys asked the Judge for a competency hearing before this aggravating phase. It certainly meets the criteria, whenever someone even mentions suicide, automatic steps are taken to protect them from themselves. This would take a day or so to get an evaluator and examine Jodi, so Wed makes sense. The other possibility is that Jodi’s attorneys have either asked to resign from her case, or she fired them. Both totally possible. Remember, at this stage, their job is to save her life, and she just went on tv and stated she wants to die, (sooner rather than later) all of which is admissable in the hearing. I know she is emotional now, who wouldn’t be. I am sure she is still in shock even though she may not even realize it. If her attorneys are being replaced, the court will appoint 2 new attorneys right away for this phase. The other possibility, (and this breaks my heart the most) is that Jodi has told her attorneys and the court, that she wants to “waive” this portion of the trial, meaning she doesn’t want to enter the mitigating phase and plead for her life. If this is the case, there would be no need for an aggravating phase, if she wants to ask the jury for death, no need to have a hearing for either side. If she did indeed, say that is what she wants, then she would automatically receive a psych exam, as the law states you cannot execute a mentally ill person, and under the law, stating you wish for death is considered mentally ill. (legally, if you tell your dr/psych this, they have to report it) I watched her interview last night, and do not know what to think, it seems as if she feels like she has nothing left to lose, and can speak freely now without her attorneys. (I wish she had not) I am not sure if she really wants the DP or not, she seems sincere, and that is the part that breaks my heart the most. I really believe this is why there was no court today, and why both families and attorneys, pros, were all in a meeting for so long. I think it was Sirlips who mentioned something about wanting to die, or suicide, and actually, it is quite odd when you think of it. It is your life, yet it is illegal to decide you want to end it. (even if you are terminally ill, remember Kevorkian?) Anyway, these are just my theories on what happened today, she will have a full “work up” and on Wednesday we will all know if there will be an aggravating phase or not, and if she still has Nurmi and Jennifer, or if she decided to represent herself at this stage. It’s all heartbreaking to me, whatever the outcome. Still feels surreal.
Its all so sad ANNA..I hope Jodi can overcome this
She talked about wanting the DP years ago, on 48 Hours.
Yes, I know that. I was speaking of the timing of this, right after the verdict to say she wants death, and sooner rather than later. It is just the way the law is, if an inmate mentions this, especially one in which the penalty phase has yet to begin, they are automatically taken to a different area, a pych unit to be watched. I know it was a sealed proceeding, which is why we do not know what happened, but there were many sealed proceedings and her attorneys are always present for ANY hearing. They have to be, there can be no discussion of her case at all without them present. My idea that it may have to do with her lawyers, either asking to resign or being fired, would require them to be there. Jodi would have been there as well. We just don’t know yet what happened, but any of those scenarios are totally possible. What we do know is that Jodi is not in the same jail, and is being held, for now, in a psych ward. After her evaluation, it is also entirely possible that her attorneys will ask that her life be spared (depending on the outcome of the evaluation) due to a mental issue or defect. This is assuming they find something wrong in the exam, and also that Jodi even wants them to argue in the mitigation phase. Time will tell.
Anna Ryan, should you come back here to masturbate over your own posts, let me just say this, friend.
You, are a certifiable cunt.
It was a sealed proceeding, so I doubt it had anything to do with her lawyers.
Thank you, Anna Ryan. Your posts are always so clear and informative.
Anna, I’m thinking the same things. I leaning towards she wanting to waive the aggravating phase. I don’t think she wants to see Horn & JM go through all those autopsy photos & hear about how she slaughter him. Also, I don’t think she wants to hear the family’s victim statements. Like you stated time will tell.
Oh.
I was busy reading a long article posted above about ‘Unraveling Justice’ in Jodi’s trial.
Made so much sense .. thank you for posting it (forgot who).
http://www.azcriminallawsexcrimes.com/violent-crimes/jodi-arias-trial/unraveling-justice/
Stay Strong Team Jodi.
I will be praying for you all – stay classy 🙂
wow . . super article
lmao “misguided trial groupies”… that’s a perfect name for the haters.
Beth Karas was holding a motion filed by Nurmi and Willmott to have the victim impact evidence done on tape. They said it’s to lessen the emotional impact and it’ll likely upset TA’s family.
torques me off they way their panel preempts what the judge is going to do . . they will file for video taping but the judge will deny it .. ughhh . . well . . this judge .. they prolly right
Yeah, but it can’t hurt to try.
I’m still confused what this means KW?
Can you dumb it down for me – court talk makes little sense to me!
Basically, they’re trying to get Travis’s siblings and friends to tell how his death impacted him on video rather than in person. I think it’s to reduce the emotional impact on the jurors.
Oh lordy, I didnt even know there was such a thing.
I didnt know the siblings would be giving an impact statement.
Christ almighty, havent they done enough acting already?
There are victim impact statements in every sentencing phase. Of course, it’s optional for the victims or victim’s family to give them. But they are standard in the US and have been for several decades.
I just heard that…bet it will be denied
That family LIKES to be “upset.” They are effin wannabe martyrs: “poor poor me – I lost my brother…”
Well, I guess they ought to have valued him while the man was still alive, course, there wasn’t any $$$ in THAT, so they didn’t bother coming to see him in Arizona until he was dead, and finally WORTH something to their greedy false-martyr-asses….
OK, aside of the motion from the defense today that the victim’s impact statements be submitted in videotape format, Beth Karas also said on HLN that there was a sealed hearing, just the defense and the judge today. Also, every juror was taken into chambers and talked to individually, according to Beth Karas. There was something said about next week’s schedule being held up by Dr. Horn, not the defense. OK, then Beth Karas was rudely cut off, when she was starting to talk about the jurors being questioned individually, as though they were just being asked about the change in schedule. But I don’t think the jurors would be talked to individually about that. What do you all think?
I think they were questioned about what Juror #8 said.
What all was said by juror #8.
Cant remember, was juror #8 an alternate or let go?
Or were they part of the active jury?
Juror 8 got kicked off for a DUI and he spoke out about the verdict today or yesterday.
Okay, thanks FLN – cant keep them straight.
What did he have to say, do you know?
Was there anything that was meaningful?
Didnt the Bosnian lady talk with the media?
I dont think there were any issues with her talking to the media were there?
He said the jurors used their smart devices in the jury room, and they talked with one another like family. He also said he expected the verdict.
What is everyone talking about I watched that link above He didn t say anything bad for either side. can someone explainbecause i guess i messed something important. PLEASE EXPLAIN
He talked about having smartphones and tablets during their time there so it may have something to do with it.
Ignore my last post FLN, I just read this post from you answering my question.
I was shocked to hear juror #8 say they were allowed their smartphones and ipads with them during the trial!!!! Any comments?
Since they weren’t sequestered I feel like i”m not that surprised? They had access to them when they weren’t in court. I was on a murder trial a few years ago and we were allowed to have our phones with us, we just had to turn them off when we were in court.
Im so sick of HLN..I could PUKE
I’m tired of HLN too. Nevertheless, I sometimes get information from them that I don’t get anywhere else. I suspected (hoped) that someone on the jury would admit today that they’ve been watching HLN all along. Could this be the case? If so, is the verdict thrown out? Could Nurmi have all of them questioned, have them take a lie detector test, and have all their IP addresses seized? It seems extreme, but it IS a death penalty case. Just questioning them isn’t enough I think.
I think he would need more proof. But who knows. They should’ve sequestered them. Then the state monitors their access.
Lets hope that they take a serious look into that. They have to look into that bc if there is going to be an appeal that would be something they would want to have a closer look at it. I am sur the Judge is aware of that
well I don’t believe a damn word the jurors have to say about anything, They’ve proven they are either stupid or afraid
Both actually,imo!!
I agree with your comment. It’s probably juror 8s comment. It’s beyond me how they allowed the jurors to have smartphones and tablets
tataliban probably sic on a juror if it was true and got the case thrown
I think he questioned everyone how they came to the decision for appeal purposes
You’re probably right. I hadn’t thought of that. Sigh.
I checked Beth K’s twitter and she didn’t even make it inside the courtroom today. She said all media was locked out so anything any of them says is speculation.
Anybody know more about why court was cancelled?
Nothing as far as I know. Nobody’s said anything to the media.
There was a bomb threat again krikee
Haven’t been here in a long time, im sure this has been discussed before: How is it that Martinez claims she was trespassing when just minutes before Travis slipped on the bathroom floor and slit his own throat he was posing for pictures? Is Martinez claiming Travis had a habit of posing nude in the shower for trespassers? From the pictures its clear he wasn’t too concerned about it. How does that add up?
jm was stuck on animals . . but I like your post, lol
LOL 😀 I love your post and your name.
Signed,
ChrisHughes_isA_GiantPieceofShit_andHis_wife’s_a_HO
I have a real issue with Dave Hall and his killing of animals for fun/sport and then posting them on his facebook. He is by any definition a piece of shit. And I agree with you, Chris Hughes and HO are as well. Bunch of frauds.
When the feeding frenzy is over, they’ll start eating each other. That’s what piranhas do. I predict a fall out between the Hughes and Alexander family when the dust settles.
Well, if Dave Hall and Chris Hughes start eating each other, at least they’ll get about a month’s worth of meals.
LOL!!! I noticed that a number of TA’s friends packed on some pounds over the past 5 years. Must be that delish Mormon cuisine.
I am absolutely disheartened with this verdict and won’t be able to post with as much fire as before so I can’t even imagine how Jodi feels. She has lived with this hatred and venom for 5 yrs but at least she had hope. Now it seems she has given that up. I wish she wouldn’t but I can’t fault her for that. Maybe if they had declared her Guilty but with Mental Defect they would have gotten something better than this pissy unjust verdict. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. JW and KN did an awesome job but you can’t fix stupid and prejudice. I believe the media coverage had an impact and that the jury already had their minds made up before deliberations. If so I hope karma does it’s job. Downright shameful.
Gwen,
my thoughts exactly. From the very beginning of this trial, I had wondered many many times why the defense didn’t go with a temp. insanity plea. I just do NOT understand why they didn’t. I do know that Jodi has the final say, and it is possible that they suggested it and she didn’t want to. If they had, IMHO, this would have been a totally different outcome, and even thought she would not walk out, she would not be in prison either. She would be in a psych hospital, (better than prison) and would at some point, possibly, be free. This has bothered me all along, I cannot imagine a jury NOT agreeing that this killing was the result of a temporary break with reason, and thats what the law requires. They didn’t have that option. Even Manslaughter doesn’t allow for mental defect, it would have to have been plead from the beginning. Sigh. Hindsight indeed.
I think they would have still given her M1. There wasn’t strong evidence beyond a reasonable doubt she premeditated this crime. All her acts prior to June 4 2008 were by all intensive purposes pretty average in preparation for a trip. She shut her cell phone off to avoid talking to Ryan Burns because she was going to be late for her date with him. Her acts after the murder were a result from extreme trauma and denial. I do think she needs help to deal with her emotions but I do not believe this was M1. She was thrown into the fire by an over zealous prosecution and tv network along with a mob mentality.
I have heard that temp. insanity is almost impossible to prove – thus defense attorneys rarely go there.
And this jury wouldn’t have believed it anyway.
R
It is not a common defense, and can be hard to prove. However, in this case, IMHO, it was worth a shot. They already had experts testifying to her mental state, they had Jodi herself saying she didn’t remember anything after the gunshot, they have her ‘coming to” in the desert where she knew something bad had happened. Then the crime scene itself….speaks volumes. If I were her attorney, I would have gone this route, and actually admitted the police videos. The jury would see Jodi singing to herself, standing on her head, talking to herself, etc. I would also show the jury the tape of her mom and the police, and her mom crying and saying “Jodi has mental problems”, as well as her dad saying the same type things. If this jury had seen all of that, and then had to decide on either temporary insanity, or not guilty due to mental defect, I believe she would have had a different outcome. Remember, the state said throughout this trial, in a roundabout way, that Jodi was “odd”. This could have played well for the defense had they chosen this defense. This would allow the defense to use the states own words to their benefit, such as going to see Ryan Burns after the killing and behaving “normally”. The defense could say, “Who does this”? You get my point. I just feel it would have been a good defense, and have from the beginning. That being said, her attorneys are not stupid, and JW is DP qualified. If they suggested that defense, and Jodi didn’t want it, they have to go the way she wants.
So, now she is in a psych ward, and will be evaluated before she can have her sentencing hearing. It is a bit late in the game, but as they say, better late than never, I believe her defense will argue to the jury that Jodi has something mentally wrong, and therefore should be spared. It’s just a feeling I have, but it’s a strong feeling.
Temporary insanity puts the burden on the defense to prove. If Jeffrey Dahmer didn’t win with that plea, Jodi certainly wouldn’t have.
Hi AA!
I think we posted very close to the same time……I still believe it would have been a shot for her, if not temporary insanity, then not guilty due to mental defect. After all, many of the things that Dr Samuels testified to regarding amnesia, could have gone the way of a mental issue instead of biological. Even a dx by the states own witness could have been used FOR the defense. I really do believe, in the sentencing phase of this, (unless Jodi decides to waive it and ask for the DP) that her defense will use a mental issue to plead for her life. This is serious, this is obviously the most important phase, and if that jury, even 1, (even though they all agreed they can impose the DP) if they have a feeling that she is mentally imbalanced, her life can be spared.
Seems there was a bomb threat to the court today http://www.azcentral.com/video/#/News/MCSO+investigating+potential+bomb+threat+during+Arias+verdict/40280768001/35150280001/2369121863001
I had a premonition about the court house and the windows exploding out
This is the second time a bomb has been threatened in that court. Is it because of the Arias trial or something else?
Very likely the Judge was just checking to see if everyone’s schedule would allow them to come in on Wednesday. She needs to make sure all of them are there for this next phase. They all thought it would start today. I didn’t hear about being talked to individually. I know Dr Horn was in court today and ready to testify when court was postponed. This phase could be fast or could take several weeks, it all depends on how fast both sides present, and how long it takes the jury to all decide on the same sentence. Part of todays hearing included a motion to have the victim impact statements read via video and not in person. No idea how the Judge will rule on that, and actually surprised the defense filed for that. Everything is a question for now, we have to wait until Wednesday and see what happens next.
what were you surprised about? The defense asking for the victims impact statements to be read by video? In a murder case I was familiar with the judge limited the family to one statement given by one member. I don’t think each family member needs to give statement and judges often limit them. also the defense can object during them as well.
Yes, very surprised. I am not sure why they want them read via video rather than in person…I don’t see a major difference. I agree with you about each family member BTW, it shouldn’t be allowed that everyone gets to speak. In this case apparently 2 siblings will be allowed to give statements. Jodi’s side for the mitigating phase will be the same, and I believe she is entitled to as many people giving statements as she wants. (mom, dad, grandma, sister, etc)The other reason, and the main reason, is the jury. They have seen the entire family sitting there day in and out, saw their reaction to the verdict, etc. They know what is coming from both sides, and they know about victim impact statements. For them to suddenly hear them/see them via video might make them wonder what is going on. That is my thought, strategically speaking, I just don’t understand why they did it, as a juror, it could cause them to wonder why, the would certainly know the family didn’t choose to do it. We have already seen a very harsh and bloodthirsty jury here, and any little thing that looks strange can be bad.
Anna here is the copy of the motion:
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kpho/KPHO%20NEWS/defensemotion.pdf
What do you think of the risks it involves with having yet more emotional outbursts in the courtroom, the Alexander family repeating the lies they have told in the media, or other inflammatory rhetoric that could influence the jury to hand over death as a sentence?
You know what? Forget it.
Let them light up the courthouse with their theatrics. They were allowed to do it ALL DAMN TRIAL, why stop them now? It might give Jodi more grounds for appeal.
If Jodi gets hurt, though, I’m going to be PISSED.
It won’t be granted from what I’m reading though. It’s gamesmanship; something attorneys do before the death phase. I think with this judge, we will see both sides make as many statements as they want. I hope she doesn’t allow them to talk about evidence that was ruled inadmissable such as slashed tires etc though. The statement is suppose to be about how they have suffered with the loss of their family member.
They hadn’t even seen him in 4 years, but I suppose they’ll exaggerate.
Nurmi’s goal in filing this is strategic. He is putting the judge on notice that she needs to caution the Alexander family NOT to burst into theatrics. He doesn’t expect to win the motion.
Yes I agree. I said he wouldn’t win but the motion was interesting. it did talk about the statements not testifying to evidence or bringing up hearsay evidence. I bet the judge cautions them about that too. Doesn’t it have to focus on the families loss of the victim and how that is impacting and has impacted them emotionally? isn’t that the purpose of the statement?
Yes…..it has to be limited to “emotions” or feelings you have about your family member. It cannot be a free for all to bring up parts of the trial that were never admitted into evidence. I may be wrong, but I do not think thats allowed. They can get very emotional, and even angry. (I have heard 2) I am sure the Judge has already gone over with them, what they can and cannot say/do. On the flip side, Jodi’s family and any friends that she wants to, can also testify on her behalf. I an thinking her mom will for sure, and that will be especially emotional and very sad. Very hard to watch that phase, especially if her grandmother decides to speak.
I heard last night that Jodi’s mom wasn’t sure if she would give a statement. I’m sure she will want to discuss it with Jodi before committing to anything. I hope Jodi lets this trial play out rather than accepting a DP that hasn’t even been handed down yet.
Why on earth would Dr. Horn be testifying today. Is he a VICTIM? WTF?
The state is going to call him for the ‘aggravating phase”. The only aggravating factor in this case that was allowed to be charged, (and there are many) is cruelty. This phase is actually a “mini trial”. The state is calling Dr Horn to tell the jury that the wounds he received caused TA to suffer before he died, therefore bolstering the states case for that aggravating factor. The defense will then have their chance to question him as well. As far as I know, this is the only person the state is calling. For the mitigating phase, I am not sure who will testify, but am hoping that it is Jodi’s mom, grandma, and maybe her sister or brother. t can be anyone she chooses on her behalf. She can speak for herself to at this point. This, for me, will be the hardest part of the trial to see.
Right, because the dude can’t even write a medial report, let alone speak to what Travis experienced during death.
He impeaches himself three times on the stand and can still testify. Right!!!!!!!!
Wasn’t the State just arguing that Jodi had this elaborate plan to murder Travis within a minute and a half? How long could he have suffered? They can’t have it both ways.
Very true..I was very surprised that he is who the state chose to testify. I have no idea why they picked him rather than a different Dr. Apparently the pros feels that the jury bought all he had to say, and must feel pretty confident. But, all it takes is 1 juror to disagree and hang the jury during sentencing. Then a whole new jury comes in. This entire phase is going to be extremely emotional and difficult to watch. I keep picturing Jodi’s grandma and wondering of she will speak during this, after all, Jodi was obviously close to her since she lived with her.
I was mad at god today and told him how could you let that crowd of Normans pray to you to get the jury to give Jodi the death penalty he sent rain and lighting to let me know he was here and he heard me.
They do not pray to God Tonya. They pray to Joseph Smith (they call him heavenly father) I think they are all related to him LOL he had MANY MANY wives! Don’t be mad at YOUR God. He is a loving god and will show mercy on Jodi when he feels it is right and in his way. Please do not feel distraught. You did the best you could. We all know that. It’s out of our hands for now.
Amen!
I know a couple Joe Smiths and there assh@#ls.
Tonya pls dont be mad at God he makes no mistakes. Sometimes things happen that we dont understand. We think he is not hearing us or he is not with us because we want it right then and when we dont get it we think he is not here. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Heb.11:1). We must continue to trust and believe. For my God is not a God of Hate but a God of Love.
ok thanks
So true enough is enough…. The Lord works in mysterious ways. He is going to use JOdi for his glory. Only he knows what plans he has for Jodi. We can help by encouraging and her and believing that the Lord has a plan for her.
I don’t drink but have a beer and I’m drinkin it feel funny
Read that JA wants all victim impact evidence on video to avoid unexpected outbursts. don’t know if it was granted.
Oops, posted old news. Having the darndest time posting and refreshing and keeping track of where I am in the page. Sorry.
I don’t understand why people wanted Jodi to apologize to the Alexanders. He abused her and she committed a crime of passion.
I agree
Even if she was sorry, a TV interview really isn’t the forum for an apology to the family. That would be like putting up a telephone pole poster invitation to a funeral.
I watched part of it. Jodi did say she hopes the verdict can give them some measure of peace. Jodi said she wished she wasnt forced to do what happened that day. On one hand, people want to hear remorse, but if she feels she defended herself…
Yes, JC…the bullies want MORE and MORE out of Jodi. She’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. If she said she was sorry, they would have found something insincere in the way she said it and carried on…
Yes, even if she said she was sorry, they’d say she didn’t mean it.
absolutely, well said.
She will apologize and show remorse in court if she takes the stand. That’s the appropriate venue.
Exactly FLN.
A bunch of delusional fucks.
Her apologizing would be saying, “I murdered him”, rather than, self defense to me.
Who the fuck apologizes for killing their abuser?
The stupid people on HLN from what I see.
Right, of course HLN would think this.
And you arent abused unless you scream it from the top of a mountain, write about it in a diary/journal, file a police report, take pictures of the injuries and put them in pretty little picture frames displayed around your house, relocate to another planet, and partake in healthier relationships because an abuse victim should really know better.
These people, this long list of people, really have a special place in hell if it exists.
You said it M. That’s exactly the way it is. Also, you have to be beaten within an inch of your life or beat you to death with 10 eye witnesses who saw that you did not provoke the abuser to beat you. Then, you’re abused. Otherwise, you’re hysterical and he’s a saint.
I think Graceless probably abuses her husband that’s why she doesn’t understand it. She’s probably the abuser so she thinks its all a bunch of hog wash!
Yeah, I’ve pondered wth they want an apology for . . to make Jodi grovel .. pfft. . it would be all I could do to say sry your brother was a prick, you already knew but the world knows now. . oops, get over it I did and speaking of his ahem . . that’s been throughout my body . . thank me for taking him out of circulation for a while . . I’m not a ho . . I’mma hero
On the fuck#n head! good point. Who reads newspapers to their kids when putting them to bed? Yes you got it- Nasty Disgrace.
NO IT WAS SELF DEFENSE THAT IS WHY SHE SHOULD NOT SAY SHE IS SORRY! How dare they say they want her tosay she is sorry . For what not wanting to die?!?! For picking her life over her attackers ?!?!?! Well FUCK THEM ?!?!?!? You know what I want I want Victims to be victims and monsters to be monsters. I don’t want the victims of DV in this country to be looked at like monsters and their attackers looked at as victims. Do the stupid ass mother fuckers give a shit what i want . FUCK NO!!
Absolutely right Krista…I said it before and I will say it again, she has no reason to apologize for saving her own life. Anybody telling her to show remorse or apologize is just trying to set her up again. Those siblings should be apologizing to her that their brother raped her, lied about her, violated her six ways to sunday and then tried to kill her.
Yep. She doesn’t have to apologize to them for shit. They should apologize for tainting the jurors with their glaring and eye-rolling. And the judge should have nipped that in the bud from the start.
Oh I would be saying Im sorry alright… I am very sorry that you were so close to your brother that you couldn’t be bothered to go see him for more than four years before he died. I am sorry we never met. I am sorry that you never saw his house while he was alive. I am sorry you never met his dog and on and on ……
do we have a copy of the motion KN filed today?
Apparently it’s sealed
no but HLN does guess we will here about it from there ass
LOL Tonya 😆
It’s posted above.
OK, Until I get the password, I want to post this here.
1st. If this verdict isn’t turned over in appeal, this has been the biggest, most blatant and outrageous trial in history-being fought NOT in the courtroom, but through a lynch mob in the media. EVERY talking head on HLN that still has their bar certification SHOULD BE DISBARRED!!
I’m going to talk to a friend about forming a formal group to try and prevent circuses like this from ever happening again.
I have spent the past 3 weeks, researching, proving and fighting for a young man who went through his own “trial in the media”, albeit mainly by one certain media figure.
Last I checked, our constitution has NOT been amended to say “guilty until proven innocent”, however this is EXACTLY what is happening ,…and it needs to STOP!! How horrified would our founders be to watch this travesty of “the rule of law”, upon which our nation was founded, being turned on its head to mean the opposite of their intention?
THIS IS IMPORTANT: a person posted a late comment on the following April 27th(29?) post, his “name” is Danites Revenge”, PLEASE REREAD THE POST AND THIS COMMENT MADE ON MAY 7, IMPORTANT!!
OK, for some reason I can’t post the link,…going to try just naming the article hear with the comment-IMPORTANT!!
travis alexander devirginated by deanna reed
LOOK FOR COMMENT BY “Danites Revenge” !!
OMG, I’m just going to post the comment here as everyone SHOULD read it and the comment that preceded it:
Truthseeker1111 says:
April 27, 2013 at 5:39 pm
Both the email to Lisa and this comment to Kristen sounds very mannish in tone and context…
I feel that a man, possible an older upstanding mormom member wrote both those messages and viewed Travis as his tutelage over the course of a good many years…a man that had watched Travis and knew he was never going to change and that he was a disgrace to the mormon religion…and this man eventually wanted the Bishop to hold Travis accountable for his sexual activities with so many girls…
I feel that we will hear from this man again…
Danites Revenge says:
May 7, 2013 at 7:09 am
TruthSeeker 1111,
You described me pretty well as it was I who wrote that. Due to the media onslaught of nonsense, people like myself that have something to say are unable to do so without fear of repercussions upon our livelihoods and families. Personally, I have a lot to say about “T Dogg”, “Travis”, “Travesty”, “Goofball” or whatever you want to call him. as he went by many names, especially in my home.
I am around. I am watching, and I promise you and everyone else here, that IF Jodi gets convicted, I will have something to say at her Appeal Hearing.
For me, I know that Jodi is suffering emotionally and contemplating her life. I have shed many tears watching her mother beg God to allow her to hold her daughter one more time. While I acknowledge Travis’ family in their desire for the same, I would advise you that they never paid any attention to him that i can ever recall over several years. Now they and the Hughes set themselves up for financial gain on the grave of a once good, but troubled young man.
I for one, see a greater need to love and positive attention to be shown toward Jodi’s family.
Jodi desperately needs to hold on to her Faith and to Hope. She is still a Daughter of her Heavenly Father who loves her.
What she and her family have been called to suffer at the hands of Travis, the hands of an Ordained Minister of God, a holder of the Authority of the Holy Priesthood, is utterly despicable.
Travis was warned many many times… “God Will Not Be Mocked.”
My faith tells me that our Heavenly Father will set this matter right. If not now then soon enough.
Jodi may have to step into the darkness one more time, before the light will shine on her again. Only a woman of truly divine nature can recover from this, and I wait and watch anxiously to see how Jodi comes through.
Jodi, just hold on a little longer…
I hope this person comes back and talks some more. What a deep and insightful read.
That is horrifying. To whom does one report this and have confidence it is going to someone who does something, acts up on it? Not the local authorities, clearly. Her defense team (sorry, but this is my opinion) dropped too many balls (forensics, for one) not to assume they would also drop this one. They are juggling too many already and are clearly overwhelmed.
Waiting until appeal? You don’t get an appeal for things like sexual activities with other women. What exactly does he think he would be saying? He could have attested to her character and he sent her down the path alone (liar, murderess) and now that door is forever shut behind her. If he holds some other crucial information, come forward now. NOW.
Danites…thanks for responding to my post…I just read it tonight…First…I would like to say that I wish you and your family well…and I understand why you have to wait and watch…you are not alone…there is a mighty army of angels hovering over you and are ready to assist you when the time comes for action to be taken…and action must be taken…you know what you have to do and I will keep praying to God and the angels to protect you and your family…and to assist you when the time comes…
Danites…I almost died 4 different times in my life…the first time when I was a crawling baby…angels came to me then and they just stay around me…and I know what the other side looks like…I have been there and back…human life is interesting…but the spiritual life is forever…
I will continue to pray for Jodi…
If you ever need me for spiritual advice…just post me…I do understand you…
I posted this additional comment a week or so ago after that first one that you responded to…
My gut instinct is that the writer of that email is a man…and it is a man that strongly objects to Lisa’s behavior and relationship with Travis…perhaps he has seen Lisa enough to know that she is somewhat a naive young girl and that Travis is just going to use her like he used the other girls in his life…
And I’ll go a step further and say that it is a man that knows Travis very well, a close male friend that has seen first hand how Travis reels a woman in and gradually and subtly gets her into his bed, this man knows of Travis crafty ways with women…and this man who feels compelled enough to warn Lisa…
This man who knows all of Travis’ dirty little secrets with all of his women, including Jodi…and this man dislikes that side of Travis….but loves in a friendship way the other side of Travis…
Now they’re going to try and diagnose Jodi? How about you shut the hell up and leave the poor girl alone? It’s your fault she’s in this situation!
Hi KW, they have to by law because of her statement to the media last night. She’ll be held the State minimum for “suicide threat” in the psych ward, released back to jail, likely still on suicide watch. I don’t know about this jail, but the jail I used to respond to as a paramedic, (and where quite a few of my patients came from when I supervised an Acute Psych Unit), was totally separate from the general population.
Also, this could actually work in Jodi’s favor. Unfortunate
Y though, after the verdict yesterday, I don’t get the impression this jury is “sympathetic” in any way.
I meant HLN. Sorry for not being clearer on that.
Tried posting for hours and hours last night and finally just gave up and went to bed.
Still just sickend by all of this.
WTF is wrong with our country………
I’m mortified by the amount of people and the hate that they are portraying toward anyone that supports
Jodi.
They are nothing but a modern day lynch mob.
God help us all if we were to ever need the “LAW” on our side.
I have been thinking the exact same thing..
Ok this is pure speculation but i recall the first dismissed juror, the woman, said she wanted justice for Travis AND Jodi. Do you think she has spilled the beans on jury misconduct now that the verdict has come in?
From your lips to Gods ears
I’m trying!
She DID tell that local news show that she “definitely have something to say”!!
With what Juror 8 said…… :). (Maybe a reason for a little smiley?)
Never again will I get this emotionally involved in a trial. I thought Casey A should have served some time for child neglect or endangerment but no…scot-free. She sat at the table all that time looking cold and indifferent not uttering a word, which is her right, but the jury didn’t bite. I know it’s a totally different case but this jury looked at a much more vulnerable, more sensitive, kinder young woman who had the guts to get up on the stand and tell them what happened. They ignored everything said by her and the defense but nibbled like perch at Juan’s bait. Unconscionable. I will cling to the hope that the verdict gets overturned due to prosecutorial misconduct and a lousy judge. I will get my news here since I no longer watch the network whose name shall not be spoken…by me anyway.
Hate Lies Network?
I said that after what they did to Cynthia Sommer-another innocent woman accused and convicted-by Nancy DisGrace first, then by the jury. 7 months later, she was completely exonerated. I don’t think DisGrace ever apologized…..okok, no, that wasn’t a “joke”, I was just naive and actually believed that she WOULD apologize for what she did to that poor girl……
I am so with you! If I feel like watching lawyers I’m turning on law and order.
I will get my news about Jodi here. No more NG for me, she gets my blood pressure up.
Casey was in jail for three years and did get convicted of lying. Let’s not pretend that she got off “scot-free.” She didn’t. She is a victim of trial by media as much as Jodi is.
Sorry, but the Casey bashing bugs me. SJ put a lot of work into his Casey site as he did with this one. Read it if you haven’t already.
Got that Kira but I can’t get past the fact that something did happen to her child while in her care and it was not reported. I don’t consider myself as bashing her and I never felt she intentionally killed her but she was negligent, there is no denying that. If she had served a little more than 3 years maybe the hatred would have died down and she could truly be a free woman now.
Don’t forget George was home too at the time Gwen.
This is just all so messed up. I just watched Juror 8s video. HLN was saying that when someone else was a juror he was so tired at night he didn’t want to watch things about the trial on tv. Oh well, I guess he speaks for everyone on earth. Bc this guy is saying it’s a good thing they all had their iphones and ipads to keep them busy. Keep them busy when? I know there were a lot of delays but should they have been allowed to hop online during them? If you really want to see if I’m just paranoid check their phone and internet records and see if it’s a mistrial or not. If they were checking HLNs webpage during breaks we may have a problem. Ugg, ugg, ugg.
Yeah but HLN PROVED that 4 people on their jury ADMITTED they would read up on the case regardless of what the judge says !! THEIR OWN JURY!! HAA HAA HAAA!!
Yes, phones and electronics need to be confiscated and immediately investigated.
I wonder how many people at the courthouse KNEW about the phones, tablets, ect? And did nothing despite the admonition.
MB –
I bet HLN was all over it.
So what did they do, they fed the lies straight to the jury’s tablets and phones.
Fuck they probably friended eachother on facebook, twitter, and other social media sites.
They probably quietly fed the bullshit straigt to the jury’s emails or through direct messages.
The stench of injustice grows stronger each day…
I am sure there were more people aware of what they were doing.
I think they should have randomly checked their devices during the trial, but even with that someone can go through other channels to go online to check ……………they can go on a friends device
from May 7
Danites Revenge says:
May 7, 2013 at 7:09 am
TruthSeeker 1111,
You described me pretty well as it was I who wrote that. Due to the media onslaught of nonsense, people like myself that have something to say are unable to do so without fear of repercussions upon our livelihoods and families. Personally, I have a lot to say about “T Dogg”, “Travis”, “Travesty”, “Goofball” or whatever you want to call him. as he went by many names, especially in my home.
I am around. I am watching, and I promise you and everyone else here, that IF Jodi gets convicted, I will have something to say at her Appeal Hearing.
For me, I know that Jodi is suffering emotionally and contemplating her life. I have shed many tears watching her mother beg God to allow her to hold her daughter one more time. While I acknowledge Travis’ family in their desire for the same, I would advise you that they never paid any attention to him that i can ever recall over several years. Now they and the Hughes set themselves up for financial gain on the grave of a once good, but troubled young man.
I for one, see a greater need to love and positive attention to be shown toward Jodi’s family.
Jodi desperately needs to hold on to her Faith and to Hope. She is still a Daughter of her Heavenly Father who loves her.
What she and her family have been called to suffer at the hands of Travis, the hands of an Ordained Minister of God, a holder of the Authority of the Holy Priesthood, is utterly despicable.
Travis was warned many many times… “God Will Not Be Mocked.”
My faith tells me that our Heavenly Father will set this matter right. If not now then soon enough.
Jodi may have to step into the darkness one more time, before the light will shine on her again. Only a woman of truly divine nature can recover from this, and I wait and watch anxiously to see how Jodi comes through.
Jodi, just hold on a little longer…
THANK YOU BEECEE!! I’m on my iPad and am having problems copy/pasting/posting!!
But when I saw this yesterday, I was like, WHOA!!
See God is in control. Jodi A You are Special in the Eyes of God. You hold your head high and you believe with everything in you. Hate is of evil and evil will steal, kill and destroy. You forget about everything you were told from the hypocrites and you look up to the Almight God Above for he will never leave you nor forsake you.
OMG this persons’ posting makes me almost cry…I wish they would have spoken up sooner.
Jodi did not kill travis….the Danites did
BeeCee –
You took the word right out of my mouth.
I cancelled my reply because all it said was, “This makes me want to cry.”
I thought it seemed silly.
Who are the Danites?
And why didnt the person come forward?
How do mistrials work?
Time frame?
Anyone know?
no M, it isn’t silly…I sure have appreciated you and all the others around here that think “like” me…
Thanks BeeCee.
The endless support from you and many others is endearing and uplifting.
My emotions are haywire, from one thought to another.
I just want to wake up and read that this was a mistrial, that the jury was tainted.
Or the whole fucking system in AZ is tainted.
One day at a time I guess.
M… the danites were a hitman group back in the days of Joseph Smith, http://1857massacre.com/MMM/danites_index.htm
OMG no wonder now things are starting to make a little sense JA was suppose to be with RB that day and like she said she was not suppose to be there she was a surprise
What is this about? It sounds like someone I have seen posting on facebook, same kind of comments
Maybe this is why court is canceled until next week.
Maybe people found their balls.
Would have been nice BEFORE the conviction though…
Gail, go to this page listed on this site, read the article, then scroll to Truthseeker’s comment, this is the next comment. This “article” on this site, is actually from April 27th, “Danites Revenge” commented on May 7th.
April 27
travis alexander devirginated by deanna reed
Can someone contact this person and let him know that there is NO appeal hearing? Appeals aren’t conducted like that. This person needs to come forward NOW and present his evidence. It’s critically important. New evidence can be considered NOW.
BeeCee….. There is one person that I know of that Travis visited all the time…. and that was Dr. David Hughes. Dr Hughes stated that Travis told him he was being stalked and if he didn’t make it for dinner one sunday, he would know why. He has been on HLN and blamed Jodi for the stalking.
Change.org has a petition started called TRIAL BY MEDIA IS WRONG! STOP THE SPIN! Please sign, if you haven’t already. HLN needs to be stopped!
Thank you Jan, I have a couple of websites where I’ve written articles before, I know many of the commenters will be interested in this!! I’ve also done research for some other people in the “media”, going to contact them & see if we can have a voice in this…..
Also, Follow @OccupyHLN on Twitter!!!
I normally don’t post on anything but here. I just asked on FB how they could feel it was right to murder someone who murdered someone. Does that not make you just as guilty???
I haven’t got any comments YET!!
Gwen,
I feel the same way. I got much to invested in this trial, and became too emotionally attached to the point of tears, headaches, fighting with friends and family, even throwing up on occasion. I never missed a moment of trial, and I neglected so many things in my life to do so. I mentioned here before, my own shrink told me to stop watching as he believed it was affecting me negatively. (he was right but I ignored him) It was if once I got into the facts, the details and the layers that the mainstream media refuse to acknowledge, I was trapped. And now this end, and the helpless feeling that comes with it is just too much at times.
I too, watched the Casey Anthony trial, and although most people here don’t agree with me, I thought she should have been charged with something. It was not proved that she killed her child at all, but IMHO it was easily proved she was negligent. Not taking the stand isn’t evidence of guilt, but you are right, she never spoke a word to explain the where, why, what’s etc…and the jury did nothing. Here we have a woman who DID take the stand, and disclosed every last detail, both good and bad, and it did no good at all.
I could not sleep last night because all I could think of was Jodi.
same here annie…
Her lawyer explained the how, where, when, why, etc. You could argue that Casey was negligent when Caylee drowned, but then George would be too.
And Casey WAS found guilty on four counts of lying to police. She had already served her time + good behavior. Her jury did the right thing. Jodi’s did not.
What is all this talk about a “password” to a “vent” page?
what is this all about a password how do you get one what’s it for and watch out im drunk on 1 beer
Tonya, I Just scrolled to the top and looked on the right hand side. There is a “Vent” page posted at the top of this page that is evidently password protected. I guess we have to email SJ for the password…? I don’t know how…I guess we are not IN with them…
LOL, I have to wonder-how many folks on here are going to need to “check” their, shall we say, “use of substances” after this trial. Even I went over my dose of pain Meds yesterday and last night. Of course, the weather here wasn’t helping, and since I had cut my dose a few weeks ago-I felt “justified”.
Oh goodness, maybe *I* need to be careful of “justifying”…lol!
What I want to knowwwwwwwww is WHY the scared ass people who KNOW and KNEW what was going on are NOW? Where are they? Are they happy that saving their own asses might cost someone their life? Someone needs to shake this shit up and wake them UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHERE are theyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? Why not come forward and tell the freaking truth?????????? Hell leave Arizona if you have to but you should have come forward before now and should now!!!!!!!!
I believe Jodi feels a lot of remorse, not just in retrospect, but in general. Hindsight is always 20/20. Like all of us if she had the opportunity to go back to do any or all of it again, the outcome would be far far different. Her mistakes have cost her dearly. No matter the trials outcome, Travis, her, the families have all suffered grievously, nothing will change that. The “pound of flesh” mentality needs to stop. People feeling justified in their hate and anger needs to stop. Showing complete open hostility toward another person who never did anything against you is so childish and pathetic, it makes me ill. I knew Travis, he was not perfect, but I KNOW if he had the opportunity to speak on her behalf he would ask for lenience and forgiveness. The man, fallible and humane, man I knew, who had the love of Christ in him would feel compelled to act with kindness. The things that may have been said about their private life and relationship may be true, but the things I know about Travis make me absolutely know this with out any doubt. I never have and I never will sit in judgment of her. The sorrow I feel is deep and genuine for both of them. I miss my friend, Travis. I have empathy for what Jodi must have gone through, be going through and still is facing. I pray for this all to end. My friend is gone, a harsh judgment, more punishment or another death does not bring him back. Nothing changes with Jodi’s death. I pray people realize this. Stop the anger, stop the rage for someone who did nothing against you. If there is any hope for us, it lies in our ability to forgive one another and move on and live our lives. I pray for Justice, for us all.
Travis’ behavior has cost Jodi dearly, not Jodi’s mistakes. If she had the opportunity to do it all over she would stay FAR away from Travis I bet. And I don’t doubt, at some time some other woman would have been in the same situation with TA one day and maybe he would have killed that woman instead. The TA family is hamming it up for profit. They probably didn’t give a shit about TA until they realized they could make a pretty penny off of his death.They are a bunch of hypocrites. Their minds bodies and souls are filled with nothing but hatred and vengeance. I hope it eats them alive.
I agree Dorothy. While I agree with the spirit of Bella’s post, I am disappointed that Jodi being a battered woman is still considered her mistake and not the mistake of the abuser.
Exactly MB!!!!
People have GOT to realize that all this hell directly stems from TA’S own deeds,decisions,actions and behavior!! Jodi was a peacemaker,she was leading a normal life,she intended to get married settle down and have kids.I regret the day she met him.I just hope she does too,now!
Well said Dorothy, MB, and Maria.
With all due respect, I find it hard to believe that TA would have had any compassion for Jodi now. He used and abused her, lied about her, attacked her and told his “friends” she was his stalker. I think we continue to see what his thoughts and ideas were, by seeing what his family and friends are doing, which is calling for Jodi’s execution. Don’t for one minute believe he was any different than the company he kept. I’m certain he would be right on the band wagon with them. Not someone I would ever want as a “friend”
I would bet large they are saying the lil dork never was worth a chit, knew he was trouble and found this as an opportunity to jump on. They didn’t care. I come from a family just like them so divorced them legally after our parents died. Gave up my healthy inheritance so I didn’t have to deal with them who attempted to off me for my share. Hell I just gave it to them, they’re now broke, I’m not. Funny how that works out. Wait til they have to account for the donations . . that’s not totally free.
Did you write this on the pro TA site as well?
“but I KNOW if he had the opportunity to speak on her behalf he would ask for lenience and forgiveness. ”
Bella, I have always enjoyed your posts, but I think you are WAY wrong here. You are talking about the man who lied saying Jodi was as stalker to his friends. you are talking about a man who threatened her. You are talking about a man you really did not know….just like his friends did not know. Listen to his own words on the sex tape..look at the nasty things he said to Jodi by way of text message.
You are wrong about your friend. You may be a great person, but he was NOT.
Jodi would not be in place if she had more backbone and had ended the relationship insgtead of being sucked back in.
Did you even watch the testimony by Alyce?
ta was genetically wired wrong, the entire family is
Bella, it’s sooooo good to see you again. I have missed you dreadfully. I hope all is well.
From everything I have learned about TA, All the really bad stuff, I do still believe he had good in him. And, I do believe, if he could, he would ask for leniency for Jodi & to spare her life.
I don’t think he would based on how he was speaking about her and how he was treating her toward the end.
why would they do that if they have a happy family to protect and jodi is single and no one cares for her
Bella,
beautifully stated.
Well, since EVERYONE else seems to have the password to the vent site except me…I guess this is it.
Thank you all for your incite, your support and your friendship, I bid you all adieu…if anyone else is out there.
Thank you SJ and administrators for offering me a a safe haven. You have been a diamond in the rough.
😀 Good bye
Don’t go Dorothy… I’m sure SJ will give you the password as soon as he can. You’ve been a trusted long term poster. Don’t give up on us yet 😉
Yes please dont go. Ill send it to you now.
can I have the pass word too
Dorothy –
There is still a long way to go.
I wouldn’t go away permanently if I were you.
Jodi still needs all of our support.
Email SJ for the password to the vent page.
But many of us are still joining in over here too.
Dorothy check your spam folder. I just sent it to you. Im sure it was an oversight. Last night was a mess. Please don’t take it personal:-)
Don’t go Dorothy, I’m sure they’re just busy!! This site has seemed overwhelmed since yesterday, and I have no doubt the mods are overloaded with haters!!
I haven’t got mine either, but it hasn’t been long since I emailed, so I’ll wait with you!! 🙂
oh Dorothy don’t go.
Dorothy, I have not gotten one either. I guess I’ll hang out here a little longer. =)
Buenas Noches Sil!
What vent site?
can;t post links anymore…check the thread above for SJ’s posting.
🙂
Hey guys
I tried posting yesterday a bunch of times, and I did write a long
post regarding my utter feelings of shock and sadness then I got
the database error connection message and I lost my post..
I then just gave up.
My feelings were a roller coaster of emotions yesterday.
Watching the crowds swell up outside the courtroom was
really disgusting.
I’m glad I’m not the type of person who waits in crowds outside of
court rooms for verdicts.
I watched Jodi’s interview and just felt nothing but sadness, hopelessness
and compassion. It was very deflating and yeah mr hater if you
are reading this pat yourself on the back. Break out the champagne & confetti
you haters got what you wanted. Hope you can go to bed and sleep at night now.
We – all of us here – I have read all your posts & I am again very thankful
for this forum.
1. The juror who spoke out today and said they had spent their extra time
on devices, iPhones, ipads, etc…wow, just wow. I hope those words
come back to bite him hard on the ass.
2. Regarding Jodi’s words on wanting to die, she’s in a state of catatonic shock
fuck after what she just witnessed in that barbaric courtroom. Can you blame the
poor girl? Seriously I would feel the same way even though I am the biggest
Lover of Life. I hope she can pull it together & keep her mental strength intact.
I feel Jodi will find happiness one way or another soon in this lifetime.
3. I really have no words to say, you guys have taken all my thoughts out of my
head and mouth. I hope you guys are doing well and hanging in there. I had
the most bizarre dreams last night, I dreamt about evidence like receipts &
images of that courtroom. I think I need to formulate a mental block of JM
and all the shady despicable characters that were in play in this travesy they
called a trial.
4. Krista, I read your message to my apology to you honey, thanks, it was
an emotional day and I think my hatred toward HLN & Drew/NG has reached
a boiling point. I am very sorry again if I came off as rude towards you, I did not
mean it at all. Thanks for reply.
5. I talked to my friends about this who barely watched the trial and they were
like MEH, and I am just grateful for all of you guys here, Renee, Sirlips, Tonya,
SJ, Janeen, mb TEAM JODI * sorry I can’t list everyone * but pretty much everyone
who have given this platform your voice – seriously your posts have kept me sane.
6. I really have no comment for the jurors,. They don’t want to hear what I have to say
but I am sure you all can feel my anger and shock and disbelief.
7. I am turning my tv off and heading to Avila Beach, San Luis Obispo for the weekend
to decompress and recenter. I think being in nature and the ocean is very healing
and that is some place Jodi would want to be at in her head right now so my encouragement
to you is, light a candle by going out this weekend and doing one thing that Jodi cannot do
that you would think would make her happy. Then send that experience in your thoughts to her
if we all do that, we can give her the strength to carry on.
8. Watch West Memphis Three & Paradise Lost documentaries again & A CRY IN THE DARK
there is hope from this lynch mob & corrupt fuckery that disguises itself as Justice. No matter
what sometimes we have to walk through the fire to get to the light & that is all I have to say
for now.
Wishing you all the best weekend despite what happened.
Make it a good one – like I said I am going to go see The Great Gatsby in 3D tonight
& head to San Luis Obispo where Oprah yes her..called it the happiest place in America
and I will stand by the ocean & think of Jodi and send her waves of love, prayers & good thoughts
so she can prevail through all of this darkness. Maybe in her dreams she will see the ocean
and the sunset and have hope that there is indeed light and love in this dark scary world.
one more thing…
Karma will come back ten folds to all the evil people in this trial one way or another
it always does….
SHINE ON!
Love Josh
(((JoshDavis)))
I could not get onto the site either….I felt like you.
glad you made it back too.
(((((((((((hugs Josh)))))))))
Do think of Jodi while you’ll be meditating**Have fun!!
while meditating I usually think of a stark white room with nothing
to clear my thoughts but afterwards if I am doing something
amazing and if I have a friend who is down & in need, I usually
send love in my thoughts that way –
sometimes when you can’t reach a person physically or on the
phone – thinking of them & sending them love in your mind,
can be very powerful! Kinda of like that phrase “Are your ears
ringing?” but in a good way – Maria you are awesome love your posts!
josh thank you for remembering my name
your welcome Tonya, thanks for being you!
🙂
namaste Josh
Josh, enjoy your ocean get away! Sounds wonderful. Enjoyed your comments.
thanks Ann!
(((( hugs )))) to you, Pat, Bee Cee, & seek2understand
I think WE ALL NEED A MINI VACAY
raise of hands?
What a beautiful post JoshDavis…..so well said. Hugs to you…
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thank you from the bottom of my heart for this post
enjoy the ocean, wish I could go too, it is so powerful. Right now hear the sound, in my head, of the ocean at night and I know everything is going to be alright in whatever way presented by our Creator
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Good day, y’all!
I want to express that I feel … very, deeply, authentically sad for Jodi. I wish she would have had someone to vent to, to lean on, when she was feeling so rejected and hurt. I am so sad for her. She has so much tht God gave her.
I am sad so much that she thinks she wants to commit suicide. If she does read this .. I want her to know that she can take her gifts and shine in that environment — be the teacher, leader, inspiration that so many women may need — and to find deep, abiding comfort in it. Shine, don’t dull. I would tell her that.
Thanks, all of you, for reading my comment. Let’s all hope Jodi does find her path, paves it, and shines for others.
No need for “goodbye, no one wants me here” posts. Just email SJ or another admin for the password :).
Yes! We make mistakes all the time;-)
Mistakes are there to be made 🙂
Love you for making this side possible , thank you so much for putting so much effort in this side
There was lots of evidence that that scumbag in Ohio Arial Castro in Ohio severly abused his ex-wife & that the missing girls were kidnapped by him, but police did barely anything to follow up. After complaints by neighbors of women chained in backyard, police knocked at his door and when no one answered, they just left.
count me in for a donation for a good appeals lawyer she needs one as 4 hln they can go aceto hell especially nancy disgrace
I am so shocked and saddened at this verdict. It flabbergasts me that what seems so crystal clear to all of us was lost on this jury. I don’t know what was behind Jodi’s interview so soon after the verdict but now she’s on suicide watch. I am a former psych nurse. I worked at a psych hospital until a few months ago when I transferred to Long Term Care (LTC). When we would have a patient on suicide watch it was called Constant Care. This means eyes on the patient at ALL TIMES. They don’t even get to use the bathroom or shower without their CC staff member watching them. They keep regular notes about EVERYTHING the patient does and says. They do not leave for breaks or anything else unless replaced. They are in DEEP SHIT if they vary from any of these rules. The patient is allowed to wear pajamas, no underwear, and are placed in a room with nothing but a mattress and a blanket. No furniture. There are wires on the window to prevent them either escaping or breaking the window. If they are violent the door is barred and the CC watches them through a window. Mind you the hospital I worked in is ancient and I’m sure more modern hospitals have better facilities but the purpose is still the same. To keep them safe and hopefully help them past this low period in their life where they may harm themselves. If they eventually are deemed safe to go to a regular room, they are still not allowed to have any posessions, and their room is searched every shift and more often if necessary. They only get a spoon to eat with and their tray is checked to make sure they did not keep anything off the tray.
Now that I am working in LTC, I have this I want to say about Jodi’s grandmother. I heard HLN commenting about how she got up and walked without her wheelchair. Implying the wheelchair was for sympathy. We have many residents who use a wheelchair who can get up and ambulate short distances. This does not mean they have no use for a wheelchair. It simply means they can go short distances and are encouraged to do so. Why does HLN have to look for an ulterior motive in everything this family does?
Sometimes when I hear of a senseless death, especially of a child, but really, of anyone, I try to reflect on what they were here on this earth for. What was their purpose? I wonder, is Jodi’s purpose here to rid the world of this abusive man? We will never know who she saved from his anger and wrath. We will never know if he would have eventually gone on to molest children. We will never know if he would have possibly gone on to commit even worse abuses on other partners, or marry someone, have children, then move on to abusing the children. From the moment Jodi met TA, it seems they were on a collision course and heading for disaster. TA ruined Jodi’s life. Even if she goes on to appeal and if she were to eventually win her freedom, her youth will have all but disappeared. There is no winner in this, unless you count the opportunists that call themselves Travis’ friends and family.
If I learned that my best friend was found murdered as I was boarding a plane, you can bet I would not be getting on that plane. With friends like that, who needs enemies? TA’s “friends” and co-workers absolutely amaze me with some of the things they have said. Going on and on and on about what a good person TA was and how he cared about everyone. Then when asked what TA would want to happen to Jodi, they’re saying he would want the death penalty. Such contradictions! Going on and on about how financially successful. It seems to me he was near bankrupt. “Dr” Drew had a long quotation on the other night taken from Travis’ blog. I honestly don’t think he had the intelligence to write that. I tried searching for it without success but I can’t help but think he found it somewhere and expanded on it.
Anyway, thanks for listening I just had to get all this out.
I love your post! You sum a ton of excellent points about this fiasco up nicely!
Thankyou for your great post…I have tears over it. So true that Jodi has saved countless others from the T’s wrath.
“TA ruined Jodi’s life. ”
yes, he sure did. She was doing just fine before him…
love your post Bev
Enjoy your trip Josh, thx for checking in, We’ll see you when you get back 🙂
Thank you all 🙂
Bev, thank you for your excellent post!
Thank you so much for your post, Bev. You must have been an amazing nurse.
I did want to say one thing in response to Travis ruining Jodi’s life because your post really brought it out in me. Even though I feel really defeated in my own life right now, and I have fleeting thoughts of killing myself, I guess I have the will to live and it’s strong. My ex-husband ruined my life. When he was arrested, I was almost 46, he took everything including the business that I bought and was my only source of income. I had very little money with which to get away, and I hadn’t worked for anyone but myself for 14 years, and only had very old references to speak for me. Getting away didn’t stop the torture. I had to deal with the divorce, the awful judge, the default judgment which was so fraudulent it gave him the right to come after me and garnish my wages and bank accounts. Then, I had no choice than to appeal it because it left him with one more avenue to find me. That was agony. Meanwhile, I’d been “lucky” enough to get a job and was working my ass off, trying to write appellate briefs all by myself, about something that brings up absolute torture in my mind, and yet, wear a smile at work every day, while his lawyer threw motion after motion at me. It was hell. Somehow, I got through all of that. But just when I thought all that had died down and I might be able to have a drama-free life for a while, two weeks ago, even more shit hit the fan.
Yesterday, I had more shit from my job because I’m claiming they harassed me about my disability two weeks ago, which caused me so much stress I ended up in the ER twice, and I’m still out on leave and a complete basket case with a racing heart. My gerbil, who I brought with me from Florida when I left the house 2 years ago, passed away. My 11 year old cat was at the vet and had 7 dental extractions and needed constant care for her pain. I couldn’t sleep the night before, so I was exhausted.
And I’m in love and engaged to the most wonderful guy in the world, and he has the most loving and understanding family. He’s 11 years younger than me and you’d think they’d want their son to find someone younger, without all my baggage, and who could bear him children. We went to my fiance’s parents’ house yesterday afternoon to bury the gerbil and as I arrived, I heard the lousy verdict about Jodi. His Mum was watching. That was like the crown of thorns on an already shitty day. I was also ashamed to tell my soon-to-be-inlaws that I was experiencing YET another problem in my drama-filled life that I’ve dragged their wonderful son into. But somehow, sitting there with my soon-to-be-father-in-law holding my hand trying to hold back tears, with no make up on, looking as tired and as old as could be, as I told him what was going on at work and giving me hugs and encouragement, I felt a little better and I felt a little hope.
There are good people in this world who will care and understand someone whose life has been ruined by someone else. My fiance and his family have proven that to me. If Jodi gets through this and gets the real justice she deserves, some day, she’ll meet people like this too. Those of us here already feel that way. We understand that bad things happen to good people, and sometimes, they’re forced into the shittiest of situation. Jodi can still have a life, I just know it. She deserves it so much, even more so than I do.
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Thanks Anna. I needed that.
I have deep respect for the way you travel upon your road in life
you deserve to be happy
{{{{AA}}}}
I see so much of myself in your posts it’s scary. After 2 abusive marriages, (you could say “that’s all I knew” after being brought up in a home where my mom would call me “ugly”, “deformed”, and that she wished I was never born. My parents both drank, and my Dad used his belt liberally. I have scars on my knees, almost 50 yrs after the fact from my Dad, scars on my face from my first ex. The damage my 2nd husband did is inside, and worse in many ways than the physical scars), I met an incredible man about 6 years after my second divorce. He was 12 years younger than I was, but pre-menopause I still looked much younger than my age. Chris gave me hope for a “normal” relationship for the first time in my life. Like your fiancé, he accepted me and loved me, baggage and all. 2 months before we were to be Wed, before my adoption of his 3 incredible kids was complete, and before he was to start his first semester in Law School, he died after he refused treatment, (thinking he was OK and not wanting to miss our “belated engagement party”, delayed because we had conceived, then lost, a precious baby girl, a miracle considering I had supposedly been sterilized against my consent, 2 years prior), after being in an accident.
I went into a deep depression, dealing with the continued abuse of the kid’s Dad, Chris’s death, and his alcoholic ex took his children that I was adopting, and ran with every penny she could squeeze from me and the Govt.
These past 6 years, I made a decision. I’m just not meant to be in a relationship. I honestly don’t feel I can trust my judgement anymore. Besides, I’m in really bad health these days, and I’ve gotten so used to being alone with my Sita, (avatar), I just can’t ever see myself in another relationship.
It’s more than enough for me to deal with the ongoing, leftover chaos and pain my kid’s dad left behind, plus my health. I also just feel it wouldn’t be good for my kids-they adored Chris, but know better than anyone what I’ve been through, and they may be grown adults now, but I’m desperate to do whatever I can in the time I have left, to do what’s best for them.
I guess I keep hoping that one day things will change. To put it bluntly, I want my kids BACK, there’s just been so much brainwashing, so much time, and with them in Fl & Co, me in Pa and unable to move, I’m not sure if it will ever happen..
I would give my life for my daughter-for any of them-but for her to be going through what she is right now…I want to be with her…luckily, she’s rebuilt a relationship with her “sissy”…
Sorry, crying again…
Whatever jackass that says domestic violence-and the horrors that often go with it-doesn’t destroy many of us, and everyone else involved for the rest of our lives, doesn’t have ANY fucking idea what we go through!!!
you have no idea how much you inspire me. you have STRENGTH girlfriend! and clearly, so does our jodi. she will have a life. and you will get through the rough times because… well, because you are you! xox!
http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/ this may be what you are talking about i happened to stumble upon it just recently and was wondering if this was what Jodi was talking about when travis couldnt give her credit like the other girl for proofreading. its obvious that someone wrote the first part because the wording and spelling are not that good if you read down some and is not the same this is apparently a book he was planning to write or something
Yes thats exactly it. Its under “2008 affirmation”
Anyone who wrote “three whole wonder” is not capable of writing such an articulate passage. At least I don’t think so. I think he plagarized it and added his own little priorities (financial success). I just haven’t been able to find it anywhere. He might have stolen passages from several sources.
Donavan just wrote on FB :”Jodi is resting and is getting healthy thank you all so much for your concern.”
Oh,god I hope this is true.
((((((((((((((Jodi)))))))))
Hi everyone ,
I don’t post often, but read every single one. It’s taken a day to digest this travesty against our beloved Jodi. I listened to her interview and couldn’t help but cry. She looked so defeated and so, so sad. My heart bleeds for her daily. This jury and everyone associated with the prosecution and persecution of this gentle soul are a disgrace to mankind, and although I normally don’t wish harm on anyone, karma is a bitch. Love and strength to you Jodi, and to everyone here, thankyou for allowing me to be a part of a “family ” that stands united. Hugs and love to everyone.
Guys I just got this on my facebook. I think its NG. What do you think? If so……..unfortunate..
https://twitter.com/occupyhln/status/332647321554784256/photo/1
I am a big believer in inner beauty. I know many, many people who would not be considered beautiful, but they ARE beautiful because they have integrity and are just genuinely decent people. Apparently NG can’t make that claim, neither inside nor out.
OH MY, i’ve washed my eyes but it want go away and now I am afraid to go to sleep tonight for FEAR OF NIGHTMARES!
Yes, it is-I saw a pic awhile back that was circulating of her drunk as a skunk at a party.
The tweets are funny!!
“Explains why NG has a doggy-door”
Lol!
Sorry, but that screaming shill has nothing but bloodthirsty rage inside her-and I’m the type of person who looks for that spark of the divine in us all…having a hard time finding it in NG…..
That’s because she is a sociopath. They don’t contain a spark of the divine.
I’m confused about why having phones and tablets is a concern. They can’t take the phones away from them for 4 months so is there a difference that they have them in the courthouse vs at home? I was on a murder trial and our phones were not taken away from us at any point. If you’re not sequestering, the expectation is that they will follow the admonition. Now, I have my doubts about this group but I can’t see how phones & tablets in the courthouse is the tipping point. If they had used a phone to look something up during deliberations, that would be a different story.
I was on a murder trial – not a huge one like this – and we were just told to turn our phones off during court.
Hi Marguerite,
The judge specifically stated the jurors were NOT to look at any electronic devices as part of the admonition. If they in fact did, they obviously were not adhering the the judge’s orders and would have had access to the media’s point of view….deal breaker as far as I’m concerned, but then again, they didn’t listen to a lot of anything.
And sorry, but as much media attention, worldwide, on every channel in the country, NO ONE can convince me that they didnt see anything about this trial. No way.
Besides, Juror 8 basically admitting HIS mind was made up…..sorry, doesn’t pass the smell test…
Not just that, but he admitted the verdict was expected!
Evening AA, I responded to one of your earlier comments today, (this am?), sorry, just EVERYTIME I hear my daughters sweet voice, (since we now know without question what was done to her), I get upset.
Even though her father died in 2010, I still can NOT forgive that bastard for what he did to my children, nor me. And he may be gone, but my children and I are scarred for life-just as the SOB promised….
maybe they should have been going over their notes instead of playing games…
instead they already knew from the media before the trial what they were going to do.
I tend to agree Bee Cee!
I agree. I think they had their decision made before trial started. This was a well known case before it even started. So sad, not just for Jodi but for all of us. It will affect other trials too!
that is so true BeeCee love to agree with you 🙂
remember when they asked each Juror after their decision? Listen to their voice closely …… just saying
“Sexual violence is a pandemic in this country” – Jacyln Friedman. I’m watching Democracy Now, this gal is a guest. They are talking about women & rape. For one thing, she said rapes in the military are estimated at about 70 per day, most unreported.
Then they must not be real, right seek?
(the above is pure sarcasm)
🙂 I wish I could remember more of what she said, lots of terrible stats about sexual violence & how it is condoned/ignored in the USA.
my eyes have been giving me a lot of problems feel like i have sand in them need to rest my eyes and get some eye drops will come back later will miss you all love ya a lot
love you too !
Take care
SJ-TEAM JODI…….I would like to join the VENT page please 🙂
I skyped him. Give him until the morning. Thanks 😉
Me too please JC ???
Yes! Left him the info.
Thanks so so much!!! 🙂
I have said this before, work really gets in the way of following this travesty. I worked a 12 hr day and am exhausted and have an 8 hr one tomorrow but I also have to get this off my chest, then its bedtime for me. I have two daughters close to Jodi’s age. If either of them ever was faced with what Jodi’s gone through, I would tell them, say what you need to say to get your freedom, even if that means they said I abused them when I did not. Its akin to taking a bullet for your kids is my way of thinking. They are the only humans I would die for.
My heart hurts for Jodi’s mom and Grandmom more than I even have the words to say. No mother should ever have to go through what they are going through. Now they are faced with her possible death. How they are even holding it together is beyond me. I am crying as I write this because it just seems such a waste of a beautiful, intelligent young woman who could have contributed so much more to this world than that selfish prick TA. A lot of tears have been shed on this site. It’s part of what has brought us all together.
I too would have never made it onto the jury because of my feelings against the death penalty. With my work in LTC I have often had veiled comments made to me about lhow can we let people live like that, and that we should do something. We ARE doing something!!! We are taking care of the elderly who worked hard, raised children, fought our wars and paid taxes. They deserve the best we have to offer. The have earned it. They deserve excellent care, dignity, comfort and love until they die a natural death. I am not in the business of killing people. How could I be for the death penalty if I could never carry that duty out myself? I think if it came down to it, most people who say they are for the death penalty would not have the stomach for it either.
I am going to hit the sack and hopefully when SJ makes it through all the emails I will join you all tomorrow evening on the vent page. Until then goodnight friends (just had to stick that in there heh heh)
Hey! I got that good night friends!!! LOL NG!! Good one!
great post BevM…
Night angel..and you certainly are to your patients!
Bev, I love this post of yours, too. I’m sure that when you were a psych nurse you got a lot of those same types of veiled comments about the mentally ill. My son has schizophrenia, and I thank God for him every day. Despite his mental illness, he has much to offer to the world, and he brings me so much JOY! 🙂
Thank you so much Bev for what you do, you ARE an “Angel”!
Our jury selection system sucks:
Had jury duty on Wednesday. Those that didn’t believe law enforcement is always telling truth (or has no more weight than any other witness) or that a witness that has a long criminal record cannot necessarily be believed to be telling the truth if it is to their benefit were excused. The people that were on the case (drug case) were two that said they didn’t think they could be partial to the defendant due to their years of working with law enforcement, another guy who said “I would love to be on this jury and has also stated that his brother was addicted to drugs at 17 and was in rehab, and a girl who said she never did drugs but had many friends addicted or that had died and it would be difficult to be impartial (she was instructed by the judge that she had to assume he was innocent – can you do that – I guess so) and she made the jury. The defendant was African-American. A potential juror (also African-American) who said she lived in an area where there were a lot of drugs but understands the problem – of course was excused. Their was an African-American who was a naturalized citizen that made the jury though who didn’t come across to me as impartial. All other African-Americans were excused from jury duty.
Oh, I forgot the judge (a visiting judge) also stated at the beginning that this case would take the rest of the day at most (this was at 11:30 am prior to a jury being seated). Then he said, well it depends on you jurors but from my experience you should be through today. Nothing like telling a jury it is an open and shut case.
I then came home to the verdict.
*impartial
read through my typos….ugh
“Those that didn’t believe law enforcement is always telling truth (or has no more weight than any other witness) or that a witness that has a long criminal record cannot necessarily be believed to be telling the truth if it is to their benefit were excused.”
What?????
I wonder if they do this for the AZ cases. If that is the case, judge pickles jury instructions were a waste when she said that a LEO testimony held no more weight …or something like that..I can’t remember now.
I am curious about Jodi’s jury selection then.
it’s ALWAYS harder for a defendant.
i tend to side w/ the accused until proven otherwise.
too many people get railroaded by the courts. i ‘see’, read, watch etc. too many cases where reasonable doubt was EASILY there, but convicted anyway.
a lot of ppl have a “high and mighty” attitude. they LOVE to judge others.
instead, our first reaction should be COMPASSION for the accused until further evidence can change ur mind.
but, that’s not really how the jury system usually works, imo.
> re: the verdict, i think the GUN discrepancy is hard to get by… the SAME caliber. it even sticks in my mind re: the real truth. jodi could b seen as still lying there. thus, again hurting her credibility w/ the jury.
> i don’t REALLY get putting any weight on the gas cans and return, but think jury thought that was more lying. put that with the multiple wounds and it’s hard to get past for many.
> IF TA was so afraid of Jodi, then WHY would he even let her in and stay over night?
> i am especially shocked the jury easily got passed the rape and 12 yr. girl comments? WOW, mitigating circumstances EASILY, imo.
> the Defense had to do a better job explaining those things. i didn’t watch EVERY minute but a lot. but i didn’t hear good explanations for these things. Jodi really didn’t explain all the wounds, becos at some point he wasn’t coming after her anymore. so, some was post mortum.
> many ppl just don’t get that a battered woman will return to her abuser. BUT I HEAR IT SO OFTEN. i figure it’s common knowledge. so the jury didn’t buy that either.
> the jury not being sequstered is SIMPLY NUTS.
> nurmi saying he didn’t like jodi 9 outta 10 days was NOT helpful. IF he says something like that, he needed to state it a different way.
> should have explained the “overkill” and FOG… when TA slammed her on tile, she suffered concussion.
thus, the fog, thus she can’t remember all the wounds, etc.
> jodi doing the interview afterwards continues to make her look bad, but is HER choice, imo.
> guess u heard she was “supposedly” yelling at her lawyers?
> premed is just. crazy, imo. cos u’d want to get in and out quickly, and not leaving such a scene.
thus, i guess her lies hurt her. they didn’t sway me. cos they seemed in context for not thinking str8.
but the gun issue is The main issue for ME in not totally believing everything she said.
easily could have said she brought it protection on the road. THAT makes sense.
sure seems like there are a FEW issues for appeal. jodi hopefully will end up with a time served sentence… eventually. i didn’t expect her go home any time soon.
i also would opt for death than life in prison.
funny, how AZ court canceled til next wed.! typical for this kangaroo court.
“many ppl just don’t get that a battered woman will return to her abuser. BUT I HEAR IT SO OFTEN. i figure it’s common knowledge. so the jury didn’t buy that either.”
Interesting that you have heard it and think it’s common knowledge. As an abused woman, I couldn’t tell you the amount of times someone asked me why I didn’t just leave or why I didn’t tell anyone. Of course, I was married and lived with him, so there’s even more explanation as to why I didn’t leave. But still, people didn’t understand. I really don’t think many people understand intimate partner abuse at all, why we stay, why we go back, why we put up with it. And I have to be honest, I didn’t understand it either, until I went through it.
“nurmi saying he didn’t like jodi 9 outta 10 days was NOT helpful. IF he says something like that, he needed to state it a different way.”
I agree. I have NEVER liked that comment. Many here thought it was brilliant. I didn’t care for it at all.
AA,
And that, in a nutshell, is why so many people do NOT believe in abuse, or believe a victim of DV. it is almost always the same refrain, “Why didn’t you just leave”? It’s as if suddenly it is YOUR fault, even the tone (speaking for myself in my past relationship) was accusatory, even mocking from certain people. Unless you have been there yourself, it is the hardest thing to explain. Sad that many people think you have to be chained and shackled so you cannot leave to have been abused. More times than not, you are not even aware you are being abused, it is that subtle. it almost always starts verbally, rarely physically. Little comments that are stupid, rude, even mean, can often go on for a long time and become “the norm”. You just feel like it’s part of the persons personality, maybe they are having some issues, bad day, etc. Of course, abusers sprinkle alot of good times and loving words in there as well, so you aren’t always upset or confused. When physical abuse starts, it is almost always so shocking, so out of the blue, (again, for me) that you are caught off guard, as if this person cannot possibly be serious, what a horrible mistake….not my man! The back and forth dynamics both verbal and physical can go on and on, including the isolation that goes along with it. I can’t count how many times I actually blamed myself, thinking I was doing something that set him off. I did think of leaving many times, but each time, he was more kind, more sorry, more loving than ever, and convince me that it was not going to happen again. Towards the end, when I finally made the plans to leave, (I got an apt with my sister, paid for it, had a truck ready and packed it and moved all in 1 day while he was at work) but at the end, he had gone from telling me it wouldn’t happen anymore, to blaming me and minimizing the abuse. Sad to say, I accepted this for another few months. It took me going to work with a black eye and being pulled into the managers office, where I fell apart, finally admitting what happened. Apparently a few people I worked with had been talking to the manager about me, my actions when he would pick me up from work, (I panicked if he had to wait more than 2 minutes) bruises on my arms, and a cut lip that I thought I had explained away. I look back now, and feel stupid and sad that I stayed as long as I did, it feels like a whole other life. I have not ever been able to fully express my reasons for staying to the satisfaction of certain people, and it took me years of therapy to understand that I don’t need to. I only need to understand for myself, and owe nobody any explanations. Thats the saddest part, I am positive that many women are staying longer since they have no idea how to begin to explain, when they leave, why they stayed at all.
Wow, I hadn’t thought of that rationale, Anna. Interesting thought.
I’ve talked to some women who have been in other abusive relationships before the one they’re in now, and they can’t leave because doing so would mean admitting, shamefully, that they got into another similar situation. I kind of feel that way about my work situation at the moment. It’s possible to believe someone was abused once, but talking about it happening again within a couple of years (whether at work or in a relationship, I’m learning) makes you sound like a phony or someone who attracts that.
Other women just feel they’re too old (even in their 40s) and/or too ill (as many have physical ailments, just as I did, from living in that constant state of stress) and they couldn’t get a job, support themselves, etc.
But many women have just given up and think it’s their lot in life. So sad.
Right, the fact that you even need to think of what you will say, and how you will defend yourself when you leave, is just adding more insult to injury. I know 1 woman who ended up in 3 different abusive relationships over the course of about 15 years, and she was so devastated by the last one, it was heartbreaking. She had given up, as you said, and was more concerned with how she would be perceived than her own life and welfare. She was a nervous wreck, and pretty much expressed to me that “it could be worse”. I feel sick when I remember that, that she had been so beaten down, that she just accepted this as her life, and was willing to (at that time) just let it keep happening and get by. Her excuses were, towards the end, so sad and she was so defeated. It reminded me of myself at the point where I was debating leaving, and actually started thinking the same way, “it’s not bad all the time”…or “what will I tell everyone, that I’ve been lying”? Its strange, because the victim feels like the BAD one, the liar, meaning, (for me) that I was lying by omission and staying in a horrible relationship but pretending things were fine to the outside world. I really believe this mindset is the most destructive, it’s the giving up as you said, and believing it’s their lot in life. Further isolation pretty much guarantees losing your will to make a move. It’s such a helpless feeling. If anything else bad happens, work, family problems, illness, etc, it just seems to add to the feeling of helplessness and keeps you stuck in the situation, not wanting, as you said, to appear like someone who just keeps attracting bad things. For me, the worse things got in other phases of my life, the more dejected I felt and the less strength I had to make my plan to move. Ironically, the friend I was referring to here, he cheated on her, decided he was in love, and left her. She seemed really sad at first, (that he cheated) but over time, has said that it was the best thing that could have happened. Such a sad thing to feel, to be happy about that, but in this case, it gave her her freedom.
Both as a survivor, and a former DV Counselor, (I felt that helping others would get me out of my own head and reinforce the positive coping mechanisms I had learned. Apparently it worked, my only relationship after my last abusive marriage was the first, and best, relationship, “normal” relationship, I’d ever been in-and I was in my late 40’s…), I can say that most-but not all-of us that had been in multiple abusive relationships, had been brought up in a household with abuse. I was.
I remember promising myself as a child, even a tenn, that “when *i* get married, it will be different”. Well, it was in a way. I married my first husband because he was threatening to commit suicide & actually succeed “this time”. Seriously. His mother even called me into her room the day before we married and said “I promise you, he WILL ruin your life and you don’t deserve that.”. ME? After 25 years of being told what a horrible person I was, how ugly, how I would marry some “dreg of the earth” and how I deserved it because I had already “ruined” my life, (I became a Paramedic and bridged to my RN instead of going to med school right after college); I remember thinking “maybe I DO ‘deserve’ this”.
And I wanted to leave, badly, but one of the things that scared the crap out of me was that MY DV counselor at the time, warned me, “when you finally leave and/or have those papers served, (I had Divorce papers drawn up 5 years before I followed through), that all hell is going to break loose and things WILL get 1000 times worse”!
She was right, they did.
Yea, I KNOW how hard it is to explain, but like you said AA, there were a LOT more people who knew what was going on than I realized. Unfortunately, there was just so much the medical school I was in at the time, could take. The constant phone calls about him picking up the kids at school when he wasn’t supposed to, the police visits about me supposedly abusing my kids, calls about me drinking or doing drugs, calls that he was in the ER again, being late because my power/fuel/phone had been disconnected or lines cut….yea, a BIT too much drama for a medical school to deal with.
Then, when I was finally able to move for our safety, and after a LOT of promises to another med school who hesitantly accepted me to TRY and finish my lady year & a half…he tracked me down, found out I was back in medical school, and it started all over again.
I’ve often wondered if I should have just waited another year…but then I wonder if I would have even been still alive if I had waited much longer….
Yes! You already feel as though you’re drowning, and then you have to EXPLAIN yourself. It’s no small obstacle.
Ohh..Ok truth….thanks….where do I email SJ? Is the email address on the site somewhere? I feel DUHHHHH…lol
If she wanted to steal the gun, why stage a burglary and draw attention to yourself.
She didn’t steal any gun. Period.
This time I’m REALLY going to bed but you GOTTA check this out, its Nasty Nancy WITHOUT make up, just scary
https://twitter.com/occupyhln/status/332647321554784256/photo/1
nite nite
Bev, now why would you look at that before bed time?! EEWWWWWWW
Indeed! Yikes! That is scary!
She is the stuff nightmares are made of. With makeup? Without makeup? With makeup? Without makeup? Someone give me a good choice they’re both too bad to pick from!
oh DAMN girl is scary!!!
SJ??????????????? I need the vent password!!!!!!!! Where do I go???????????? I’m still maddern hell
Cj and tonya and the regulars, email SJ or chk your emails for the VENT password. Lets go, we miss you guys on the other side. HATERS NOT ALLOWED! Ha-Ha!
I don’t know how to email SJ but I’ve checked my email twice and nothing is there. Maybe it will come soon.
Me either! I am not sure how to email SJ, looked all over the site for an address…..and can’t find one. I’m confused.
go to the page About us -> scroll down a little after the comment that is where you find his e-mail
How do we get on the vent? Im new but I am a total Jodi Supporter!!
Mr. Juan Martinez is planning to exploit the feelings of charity and guilt that many people have over the plight of this! Permit me this forum to rant. Let me move now from the abstract to the concrete. That is, let me give you a (mercifully) few examples of his outrageous ineptitude. For starters, people sometimes ask me why I seem incapable of saying anything nice about Mr. Martinez. I’d like to—really, I would. The problem is, I can’t think of anything nice to say. I guess that’s not surprising when you consider that Mr. Martinez contends that there is something intellectually provocative in the tired rehashing of stentorian stereotypes and that, therefore, he is a spokesman for God. This bizarre pattern of thinking leads to strange conclusions. For example, it convinces dimwitted sociopaths (as distinct from the puerile, mentally deficient tatterdemalions who prefer to chirrup while hopping from cloud to cloud in Nephelococcygia) that I’m too batty to lead Mr. Martinez to resipiscence. In reality, contrariwise, Mr. Martinez somehow manages to maintain a straight face when saying that “the truth”, “the whole truth”, and “nothing but the truth” are three different things. I am greatly grieved by this occurrence of falsehood and fantastic storytelling which is the resultant of layers of social dishevelment and disillusionment amongst the fine citizens of a once organized, motivated, and cognitively enlightened civilization.
If there’s one thing that Mr. Martinez is good at, it’s spreading the germs of hatred, of discord and jealously, of dissolution and decomposition. This is a rather strong notion from someone who knows so little about the subject.
Mr. Martinez’s mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life. Should this be discussed in school? You bet. That’s the function of education: To teach students how to work together towards a shared vision. Mr. Martinez motivates people to join his club by using words like “humanity”, “compassion”, and “unity”. This is a great deception.
Nobody wants Mr. Martinez to pose a threat to the survival of democracy, but Mr. Martinez insists on doing it anyway. It will never be possible for me to erase from my memory the feelings of weighty sadness and disgust that overcame me when I first saw him censoring by caricature and preempting discussion by stereotype. The best I can do now is halt the adulation heaped upon renitent psychopaths. I hate it when people get their facts wrong. For instance, whenever I hear some corporate fat cat make noises about how there won’t be any blowback from Mr. Martinez’s destroying our culture, our institutions, and our way of life, I can’t help but think that I personally plan to defy him. Are you with me—or against me? Whatever you decide, Mr. Martinez counts the worst kinds of tactless tossers there are as his friends. Unfortunately for him, these are hired friends, false friends, friends incapable of realizing for a moment that when I first became aware of Mr. Martinez’s covert invasion into our thought processes, all I could think was how if Mr. Martinez’s sinister accusations became more widespread, Jodi Arias got what she deserved, and everyone here is hopelessly stupid. Yeah right.. mark your words. it would spell the ruination of this country.
How is it that I knew from the beginning that Mr. Martinez would twist our entire societal valuation of love and relationships beyond all insanity? Am I smarter than everyone else? No, not at all. I’ll admit that I’m smarter than Juan Martinez but that’s like saying that I’m smarter than a toad. I knew what Mr. Martinez would do.
How old are you? Are you married?
I think I’m in Love….
(SLAPS HERSELF BACK TO SANITY!!)
Sorry, I completely agree with your contemptuous, but judicious description of the vacuous rat-faced Mexican jumping bean…..
😉
(OK, it’s getting late and Lainey is getting silly… 😉
Jodi, I hope you know that there are so many people thinking (positively) of you.
Fuck the haters, they are nothing, nobody’s.
You are strong. We are strong.
Forever Team Jodi.
SJ — Team Jodi — can you send the password to my email? Thanks!
Help, I cant find Administrators Email to get Password.Can someone save meeeeee
Found it!!
I stumbled across your website and clicked around out of sheer curiosity. I, like much of America, have been captivated by this trial from the beginning…although they have reached a verdict I am not passing judgment on Jodi…I don’t know all the fact…NONE of us know what really happened that day.
I just ask someone to respond and answer with their own theory, explanation…etc. (without any hostility)
If it was indeed self defense and Jodi did indeed shoot him first…how do you explain all the stab wounds and throat slashing? I can’t wrap my head around it and I want to believe that such a seemingly intelligent individual is not capable of doing a horrific thing like that.
Was she in a rage, temporarily lost her mind? Is she in the middle of some cover up/conspiracy? Why would such violence be necessary?
Hi,
There are a lot of great people on here that will be able to give you some great specific answers. I think you might be able to catch some more people tomorrow earlier during the day. These guys have amazing answers and have thought this through step by step. 🙂
I believe that the gunshot did NOT incapacitate him, but rather enraged him, causing his attack on Jodi to turn even more violent. I think the stab wounds on his back show that he was on top of her while she was stabbing him- they are shallow and barely qualify as “stab wounds”.
The throat cutting? I don’t know. Either he was still alive, still attacking, or she was in full on survival mode. I think it’s completely possible she did snap towards the end, because he just kept coming after her.
Sugaah, have you ever read about any other women who killed their abusers? If not, there are three stories that might interest you, especially: Wendy Maldonado, Susan Wright and Barbara Sheehan. You can watch on YouTube a documentary about Wendy called “Every Fucking Day Of My Life.” You can also google “abused women who kill their abusers” to learn more.
Essentially, when abused women kill, they strike many many times because they are soooo terrified that their abuser will get them. They can’t stop because if they do, their own lives are at stake. They have to keep on attacking and attacking because anything less will result in them being killed and punished.
I relate because of my own life. It’s all I have to relate to. On March 14, 2011, my (then)husband was about to kill me with a large wine bottle wearing a surgical glove. I’m 4’11”. He’s 6’3″. He stood over me telling me he was going to kill me with that bottle. He had told me he knew how to clean blood forensically. He cleaned pools for a living and had all the necessary chemicals. He had large garbage bags on the table, and he’d always told me that if he ever killed me, he would cut me up and dispose of me. That evening, I was prepared. I had been speaking to domestic violence hotlines for more than 6 months. I was trying to get away. I had my iPhone in one hand videotaping him and the house phone in the other ready to call the police, which I did. However, for a moment, I wondered if I could get into the kitchen, get a knife and simply kill him instead. There had been many nights when he lay sleeping and I wondered if I could kill him. I never thought I would have had the strength and I knew that if I didn’t succeed, he would have killed me. That evening, I really didn’t know what to do. I took my chances with the police, even though he’d told me one of his customers, who’d become his buddy, was the commander, and if I ever called the police, his buddy would fix it. From talking to hotlines and talking to counselors and talking to lawyers, I had some inkling of what to say to the police. Jodi didn’t even realize she was being abused. That was how I had been 6 months prior to that fateful night. My life came down to 30 seconds.
The fear that goes through an abused woman in that moment is not something I can really describe to anyone who hasn’t experienced it. And self preservation kicks in. It’s very difficult to understand so I don’t blame you for your doubts. I hope, if you research the women I’ve mentioned above, and some others, it will become clearer for you.
HBO did a special on Wendy Maldonado called “Every F***ing Day of My Life” which chronicles the abuse she received at the hands of her husband, and I believe you can watch it for free online. She married her husband at a young age, had kids right away, and he dismantled her self esteem, kept her away from her family and any friends who might have been able to help her and after years of abuse, she finally fought back. Her oldest son was also charged, but Wendy tried to take the fall for both of them.
I am sure you have posted this before. Prob before I started coming to your site. I have a bestfriend that has an abusive husband. I don’t know how to help her. I have tried to give her numbers for help. Her words are “he only hit me once. He only hollers and cusses me”.
Hearing your story gives me hope that someday, someone will get through to her before he does something like this to her. Thank you so much for sharing.
Buy the book Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft and let her read it bit by bit in the safety of your home. You will also get a lot of good advice from it. He also has a follow-up book on getting away. It will take her time. You are being a good friend to her.
Also, Crystal, if she is able, tell her to go see a therapist. LSW, psychologist, whatever. This was she can let her feelings out to an impartial person who can help show her that is IS abuse, something she might not want to admit just yet to anyone else. it is hard to admit you are dealing with it, there is alot of denial, and that can last a long time. Just suggest it, and maybe a professional will help her see the light. Freshairs idea of the book is a good idea too. The best thing you can do, is let her know that you are there, and you will not judge her about it but will listen when she wants to talk.
She left in Nov. She has 2 children with him and went back right after Christmas. I will try the book. He doesn’t even hide how he treats her. when I am on the phone I hear him cussing and hollering. It just breaks me. Thanks for the info. Sometimes it’s hard to talk to other people who know them about it. Not everyone can see what an ass he is to her.
A hint, while its a very good idea to get her to a counselor as Anne says, there IS always a risk. I used to have women brought to me by friends, who told the victim that the appt was for them, and they just needed company. I’m NOT saying it’s a good idea to lie to your friend, UNLESS you believe her life is in immediate danger, (we usually are very aware of his patten and know when he’s building up to a fight), OR for SAFETY!! I had to lie, not only to my ex, but to everyone except a close friend, about WHERE I was going, WHO I was going to see. Abusive men are NEVER happy to hear their victim is getting counseling.
Just be safe, and Thank You for wanting to help your friend!! We’re not always the easiest people to be friends with, I know. 🙂
Thank you for taking time to give me some help.
I’m watching this show on Mormons that I DVRed bc I know nothing about the religion. I’m a Catholic girl. Although I’ve read up on Buddhism. I think other religions are interesting, but this will all be new to me.
I still don’t have the new password!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SJ, where are youuuuuuuu????????? Somebody help me!!!!!!!!!!!
You are not alone cj….Please SJ help us
I’ve emailed SJ, too. I expect he/she may actually have a life other than the one spent on this site. 🙂 Waiting patiently.
I totally pulled a JM today! It was horrible. I took Mom to the store and I asked her a question. I said do you mind stopping to get some ice cream. We were at CVS at the time. She said we can’t get it here. Like I don’t know that. I’ve been in a bad mood and guess what I said. “Is that what I just asked you? I just want you to just answer the question I asked.” Then I huffed and all of a sudden it was like a little birdie landed on my shoulder and whispered JM. I said I was sorry 100 times and she got back at me by calling me JM. But then she felt bad for calling me JM and I told her I deserved it. But then we had a good laugh about it after we both had ice cream.
Hahaha. Made my night.
She, could I get the password too? Thanks.
SJ* (sorry, spellcheck)
Jon Stewart is going after Nancy Grace again.
I have followed with interest many of the comments posted here . . . and have watched (whenever I have a chance) a number of the trial videos.
I am sickened by this trial and all the corruptible influence that hln & other media whores have on the gullible public. Pre-meditated murder 1 is a total farce . . . and horrid tragedy for Jodi..
SJ, I just finished reading the following article (see link below) from the “Occupy HLN” facebook page. I think others here will want to read “The Jodi Arias Case: A Miscarriage of Justice” and hope you believe it’s worthwhile to post on your site.
http://www.occupyhln.org/breaking-news/verdict-what-really-happened-in-the-jodi-arias-case/?fb_source=pubv1
My post disappeared yesterday so here goes again,I was saddened by the verdict,it was blatently obvious that the jury did not even consider any of the defences testimony,come on now,it should have taken longer than 15 hours to decide some ones fate.This trial was tainted from the beginning,those jurrors had their minds made up with in a week of the start of the trial.you cannot tell me that they never watched any of that HLN bullshit.It was DR Drew,Vinnie Politan and Nancy Grace that tried Jodi and found her guilty and they will have blood on their hands forever,wether or not it will bother those assholes is another question,I say not because they have no souls and are fucking useless waste of skin.The judge was a disgrace by letting that sawed off little toad do anything he wanted.if it didnt go his way he whinned to mommy judge and she allowed it.I cant believe how all the sec ret videos popped up at key times and the fucking lying by the states witnesses,SHAMEFULL BIGGEST MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE EVER.I think Jodi made some bad judgement calls too,she should have had legal representation from day one,she should have not done those interviews from jail and she should have never tweeted from jail.The other aspect was she was tricked and lied to by the cops and they have an unlimited cash base to work against her,also the prosecution hand picked the jury under protest from the defence team,The defence team was denied evidence and never given the appropiate time to mull over the evidence.NOW we have the ever so present pressure from those fucking religious mormon freaks that would sell their souls to preserve their precious face in the church,heavan forbid you would stand up for what is right or wrong,how two faced can that be about their religious beliefs.I can only hope that the appeal is run fairly,no media,everbody is sequestered and it is done behind closed doors.KN and JW have a lot of things to present in an appeal,hopefully the next judge will have some balls and the court of appeal is a little smarter than the last.ONE last thing,when I seen Jodi reaction to the verdict,a little piece of my heart was ripped away,she does not deserve this and now she has given up.We need to support her even more now,show her we havent given up.GOD BLESS JODI,hang in there girl.
yes Dennis…we need to continue to pray for Jodi…
She is a soft spoken mormon girl…who is naive in so many ways…and it is her naivete in certain situations that has been her downfall…
Yes…she told some lies…and eventually she acknowledged that she told them…and for the rest of the course of the trial she has been consistently consistent in telling the truth when she spoke on the witness stand…
The jurors know that what they did was wrong…and God and all the angels in heaven will not let the jurors get by with what they have done…
http://current.com/community/94107717_news-most-complete-set-of-unedited-pictures-from-travis-alexander-murder-scene-warning-pictures-are-very-graphic.htm
WARNING……. These are very graphic unedited autopsy photo’s and photo’s from the trial we were not allowed to see that I just came across. I thought some here may be interested in seeing these. I believe after looking at these Jodi snapped after the years of abuse by Travis and fearing for her life. Prayers for Jodi today. Please DO NOT open this link if you are at all squeamish. The photo’s do include the neck wound that is quite gruesome and the naked photos. One also clearly shows the gunshot wound. To me it looks to low to have been incapacitating, but I am no expert, but Dr Horn sure didn’t seem to know what he was talking about either. Hope it is ok to post this link if not please delete this post. Thanks.
Anybody know why Jodi didn’t have an attorney during Flores interrogation?
She couldn’t afford one … and PPL obviously, didn’t supply one.
The Miranda states that if you cannot afford an attorney one will be provided to you at no cost. She should have at least called someone in PPL, Searcy to help her find one atty at first who would then get her an appropriate criminal atty.
How do I get to the VENT page? It says enter password….? Help!
anna…you have to send an email to SJ and ask for the password…I am still waiting for SJ to send me my password…
Lord I’m having a hard time. I havent’ gotten the passworrd orrrrrrrrr how to get to the new page. I’m going to have a freakin fit and boil over right hereeeeeeeeeeeee
cj….how long have you been waiting for you password…I have been waiting over 2 hours…I hope they will send it soon…it’s almost nighty-nite around here…
I’ve been waiting since about 6:50pm. They must still be on overload. There’s probably a LOT of haters trying to post and gloat!!
did you check your junk mail? it might have gone there
cb…I check the junk folder…it’s not there…I have sent SJ emails all along and they have always came to my inbox…
Hey…if you go over to the vent page…please ask the moderators when will SJ see our emails…
ok .. and I left a msg if anyone there shares your email to send it to you
thanks cb you are a kind friend indeed…
I do not know how to send SJ an email about the password. Where do I send my email? Where it says “Subscribe”?
Can somebody tell me what the vent page is. Is this website being closed down?
this website is not being closed down…the vent is a private place to go for members only…
I, like all of you, watched the verdict yesterday and my mouth literally fell open as the announcement was made. I was beyond stunned and I simply couldn’t find the words to describe my myriad of feelings. I have been tring to make sense of it all, which I can not, and find the right words to convey my thoughts and feelings. I quickly remembered this is not about how I feel, how in the world must Jodi feel?? All day yesterday as well as today, all I can think about is how and what Jodi is going through. Today I heard a very familiar song that I’ve listened to a thousand times but today it suddenly had a completely different meaning. Music is an extremely important and huge part of my life, heart and soul, I felt as though this was the song that could finally communicate words and thoughts that I have been at such a loss for since yesterday. I felt like these could be words and thoughts that could possibly represent what Jodi could have been and is feeling….. Please really look at the words and really open your heart and soul to these lyrics….
What have I got to do to make you love me,
What have I got to do to make you care.
What do I do when lightening strikes me,
And wait to find that you’re not there.
What do I do to make you want me,
What have I got to do to be heard.
What do I do when it’s all over,
Sorry seems to be the hardest word.
It’s sad, so sad, it’s a sad sad situation,
And it’s getting more and more absurd.
It’s sad, so sad, why can’t we talk it over,
It seems to me, that sorry seems to be the hardest word.
Jodi wanted him to love her, to care. Lightening struck and he wasn’t there. Jodi wanted to be wanted. All Jodi wanted was to be heard. It’s a very sad situation and it is getting more and more absurd from his family and especially the media and the circus they have created with the lies and venom they spew. Why can’t they talk it over as reasonable people, rather than being so vile and blood thirsty. The media got it completely wrong and they have blood on their hands. I hope those of you who read the lyrics understand what I’m trying to convey. Never ever give up Jodi, you have so much support on your side. You will prevail, hang in there and hold your head up high! The lyrics I quoted is called “Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word” by Elton John….that song will forever have a totally different meaning for me now. Lots of love to everyone here and all the wonderful support!!
wow you are right that song really does make sense with what happened to Jodi. I think all she wanted also was for him to care and love him like she did him. She is naive and didn’t realize there are some men not worth loving!!
Thank you Nikki T, I forgot about that song. The band “Blue” did a remake feat. Elton John that isn’t bad but nothing like the original by Elton.
All TA had to do was treat her right and respect her; she only wanted to make him happy. He was just too narrowminded and twisted to see it.
Hey everyone, how do I email SJ for the vent password? Thank you!
are they on the vent page?
that post was meant for Britney….thanks…
Where is everyone? It’s showing that no posts have been made in hours. o_O
Nevermind. I just realized that the time zone somehow got changed on here. It was on eastern time for me, but now it’s showing arizona time.
Britney,
are they over on the vent page?
What happened to this site? It was down for at least three or four hours tonight.
It was? I didn’t have any issues tonight at all, yesterday was a different story!
It was good most of the day until around 5 p.m. Pacific. Then it went down for hours afterward.
tony…I think a lot of the regulars were over on the vent page…I’ve been trying to get my password so that I can go…
Well, I have NO idea how to go about emailing SJ to get a password in the first place. I looked all over the site, asked several times, and just have NO idea. Its so frustrating…somebody PLEASE tell me how to email SJ…! ACCCKKKKK…I wanna go to VENT!
anna…if you are still awake…LOL…I missed your other post…click on the link at the far left of the top of this page where it says, ABOUT US….scroll down a little ways and you will come upon the email address for SJ…just send a request and then wait for him to send you that password to get into vent…
I have been waiting over 5 hours and I haven’t got mine yet…hopefully he will send me one in the morning…so go ahead and send a request now and hopefully you will get one in the morning too…
Have an nice TGIF….Thank Goodness It’s Friday
well i guess im out of here..JA hang in there girl, Justice is coming..I can feel it…
Are only certain people allowed to be on vent?
are you a regular member?
What does this mean?
Some of us lurk and have not posted much, are we not then considered “regular” members?
I have typed of speeches that i was about to post but decided against it because I didn’t want my words twisted by those visiting here just for fodder.
So many out there who claim to be “Christian”, but are still stuck in the old law w/o Christ.
Judging Jodi beyond what they have authority or permission to do.
Dr. Drew Wed night actually indicated that Jodi would not be where Travis now is.
Did they teach this stuff in medical school?
How to play ultimate judge and jury?
I will not judge him(and many others) on this but will say to be careful with such a claim, as we are not in the position to be making this call on another soul, nor do we have the authority to do so.
JB
Prayers for Jodi!!!I
Im watching Dr. Drew right now. And let me tell you i just got ticked!!! They say Jodi doesnt feel. Jodi doesnt take responsibility of the crime. Jodi shows no remorse… well what the hell is she showing when she was doing the interview right after the verdict. The man asks about Travis and her eyes fill with tears!!!! Or how about when she was talking about doing things diffrent. There is remorse you can see it. Personally i think that the emotion that she shows when one speaks of Travis shows the love that she still has for him. And the emotions of that relationship. Taking responsibility she admitts to killing him. What about when she puts her head down during the interview? Thats raw emotion, she was just charged with premeditated murder… What do they want?? If she sits there crying they will speak badly of her. It she sits there and uses the strength we have all seen that she is capable of, then what? She will still be spoken of badly. The Media and people that are closed minded decided that she was guility long before now. I hope that by some miracle she gets a retrial and that with all the backlash she gets a sequesterd jury! Something needs to give here… Women are abused everyday and this is one of the main reasons we hide it. Because it doesnt seem to matter that you get beat down to where you feel like nothing and then you reach out for some type of help and then everyone turns on you and maybe not physically this time, but mentally and verbally you are beat down again. Its a miracle that some women make it out alive… Prayers for Jodi
Rebecca…
Dr. Drew is an idiot…always has been and he always will be…
Jodi is a soft spoken mormon girl…a lot of her emotion is held inward…it is not healthy to hold it inward…but many people do that…
Dr. Drew would never ever understand that…he’s always acting like a charlatan of a doctor on his entertainment show…and all the girls that Dr. Drew is associated with are all “Drama Queens”…very appropriate for his amusement…
I agree with you a 100%
Lol you are the first person to speak to me on this site. Thank you.
Rebecca…I am happy to be the first one to talk to you…most of the time I am just reading and trying to catch up…and then I get a little “chatty cathy” when I see a post that catches my attention…and your post on Dr. Drew halted me…
There are a lot of caring and kind people here…just keep posting and answering their post and eventually people will start posting back to you…
Have a nice TGIF day….Thank Goodness It’s Friday…awesome…
I concur 1000000%
dr drew is just one level below nancy disgrace in my not so humble opinion
They’ve been dissecting her for sport and profit for way too long now. She’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t in regards to their pathetic “judgments” and “opinions” of every single thing about her.
This was trial by media and HLN is one of the biggest offenders in stirring up the masses to hate her and not look at facts in the case with unbiased eyes. Guess they checked their knowledge of law and ethics at the door when they got hired to be talking heads. You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty but that was never the case with Jodi.
This is the wave of the future—in a few weeks they’ll be onto George Zimmerman and the next case and the next. Jodi was right when she said the public likes to persecute—its a sickness.
Country Music star Mindy Mccready was the fifth celebrity to commit suicide after Dr. Drew Pinsky‘s celebrity rehab reality TV show, I just consider the source when I hear an opinion from him.
“I think “Dr” Drew Pinsky should change his name to Kevorkian. Same results.” – Musician Richard Marx
I used to watch Dr. Drew all the time. I thought he was a caring person. Then I saw how he spoke about Jodi and realized for being a psychiatrist he is really stupid. He must have skipped the part in college where they teach about domestic violence and people who have insecurities Its no wonder alot of the people he had on Celebrity Rehab died.. He is an idiot
I took Dr. Drew off my twitter acct along with Nancy Grace and HLN. I will never watch any of then again!!! Ever! I wish there was a petition to take them all off the air! I already signed the petition to take Nancy Grace off the air. Now we need one to take Politan and Dr. Drew off. They sicken me!!!!!!
No, Drew is anything BUT “an idiot”. Unfortunately, he knows EXACTLY what he’s doing. He’s GOT to “fall in line” with the other radical, bloodthirsty goons on HLN. I know, at least at the beginning on HLN, he was a different person in real life, and had actually got into trouble for saying something against NG.
Today? He seems to be enjoying himself a BIT too much. I never though he’d be like this-he just didn’t have that “sensationalize EVERYTHING” attitude that the others do.
I read somewhere that he has several pending lawsuits-it was in one of the medical “lists” I belong to.
I’ll ask and see what the status is on them, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it wasn’t just for ratings/$$ at this point.
Before this trial, his “Maury Povich” like interviews on his show, were doing a job to his reputation. That sort of thing may do well for a certain demographic, but professionally, he’s really taken a hit. Especially with this trial.
A Shame…
He’s not a psychiatrist, just a regular internist with a sub-specialty in addiction medicine, not that it helps.
Yes, he is like Dr Laura, he is not a “Dr” of psychology or psychiatry, he is a doctor of internal medicine with a certificate to dispense methadone. For lack of better words.
Yea, I know,..I wonder if that had something to do with the lawsuits. I’ll have to check, but according to his radio show, his private practice consists of more than just substance abuse; I wonder if that, in itself, could bring on a lawsuit.
I wrote to him a few years ago after I heard him talking about the abuse cycle-both DV & Substance Abuse. My Son, 23 now, went through a period of heavy drinking, (his dad drank & used coke whenever he could steal enough money to afford it). Although my Son has been in counseling, he didn’t like it too much when I 1. Tried to talk to him about the drinking and 2. Really pushed, too much I suppose, for him to come stay with me for awhile after his Dad died, (his Dad & stepmom had literally taken off and left him in Guam, just after he graduated H.S. It was “punishment” for him changing a plane ticket to come see me. Thank God he had good friends he stayed with).
He went to stay with his stepmother instead, (who he still claims he can’t stand, but is staying with her family now), screwed up an incredible internship opportunity because he was drinking, and is now in Co, with her family, doing an “internship” when he’s not playing video games, high as a kite. Our genetic disorder, which only he & I have, exactly alike, was one of the 5 recognized disorders for the Compassionate Investigational Drugs program in-I think, 1990, (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassionate_Investigational_New_Drug_program. George McMahon has a VERY mild form of NPS compared to us-I’m “classified” as a “mutation of a spontaneous mutation”-no, not kidding, there’s no family history & it’s located on a slightly diff genetic marker), that gave medical cannabis to an NPS pt, (George). My Son has informed me that he plans on staying in Co to “take full advantage of the MMJ Program”. I’m afraid, like with his dad, it’s just an excuse to get high. At least his drinking is almost non-existent.
Anyways, Drew was really nice about it, called me, and we talked about both my Son and my medications.
The song “Hurricane” by Theory of a Deadman reminds me a lot of Jodi every time I listen to it. I want so badly to talk to Jodi so I can let her know she’s not alone, and despite what happened, people do care.
I hope she can still somehow get our messages, Britney. I’m very worried about her. 🙁
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/22211896/2013/05/09/troy-explains-how-he-got-the-jodi-arias-exclusive
That guy Troy did just what everyone else has done to Jodi. Completely betrayed her trust. It’s sad. Is there anyone out there who still has some semblance of integrity and moral ethic?
It has certainly caught Jon Stewart’s attention.
Rob, I saw that episode with Jon Stewart. lol!
I have watched his show since I was about 19. I Never miss it. =)
“He doesn’t make you sick he gives you LIIIIiiiiiffffeee”…….HA!
Sil I believe this jury was coming back with a death sentence after finding premeditation. I have never made the “leap of faith” to see premeditation, so I would of had to acquit on reasonable doubt.
I will never believe Jodi just decide to execute TA … KN had it right when he said ” We don’t know what happened in that bathroom, but it was chaos, just like their relationship. I think she just snapped”.
Willi, I agree. I knew from the beginning that Jodi did not have a chance with this jury, this judge and this persecutor. I really can’t say anything bad about Nurmi or JW because I believe they too knew this was going to happen and so they made sure to document everything for the appeals.
$$$$$$. Profit > professional integrity these days. 🙁
yep. sad isn’t it?
It’s even sadder that it’s just so blatantly displayed. These people at HLN don’t even bother to at least look impartial.
too funny Rob, thx for sharing . . smh@ the whole thing especially the comment section. Some people are chronic lol
Don’t know if you’ve all seen this article, but it’s worth a read. http://www.occupyhln.org/vinnie-politan/verdict-what-really-happened-in-the-jodi-arias-case/ Exactly why Jodi should have been found not guilty.
Good article
PLEASE FOLLOW @OccupyHLN on twitter for updates!!
I wonder what’s next for HLN? Mock executions outside the courthouse? That would be right up their alley.
Oh don’t worry, I’m SURE they’ll find someone else to feed their bloodthirsty audience soon…wonder who’s next?
Well, they don’t much to do until next Wednesday so I’m thinking they’re going to do a mock execution for Jodi.
HLN is not done with her yet.
**they don’t have much to do…
I wouldn’t be surprised, they have their mock juries, their re-enactments based on speculation, so why not? That would be the logical step I suppose, maybe set up a last meal area, let them all giggle and joke about what’s on the menu, pass around drinks, and then maybe have a guerney there will someone laying there, strapped in. It’s beyond belief, talking about a trial is one thing, even giving opinions is one thing…but to go to the lengths that they have is just beyond belief. This is not a joke! This is a real trial, with people with feelings, and a woman whose very life is on the line…yet they treat it as if it were a play, a movie….it’s sick. I realize it’s about ratings, but along with that, there comes journalistic responsibility, and joking and laughing about a murder trial is not ok, by any stretch.
anna…if you are still awake…LOL…I missed your other post…click on the link at the far left of the top of this page where it says, ABOUT US….scroll down a little ways and you will come upon the email address for SJ…just send a request and then wait for him to send you that password to get into vent…
I have been waiting over 5 hours and I haven’t got mine yet…hopefully he will send me one in the morning…so go ahead and send a request now and hopefully you will get one in the morning too…
Have an nice TGIF….Thank Goodness It’s Friday
And when Jodi talked about not remembering what happened after TA attacked her “The Fog”.
I have real life experience with what she is saying.
My ex-wife was molested by an older brother. And she would argue vehemently that she didn’t say things or do things, even when there where multiple sources.
My ex-gf was molested by two of her Foster Parents and she had the same type of memory lapse after disagreements.
I don’t think Dr. Samuel’s did a good job explaining this, but I know it is a REAL mental health symptom.
And Jodi was abused by TA. So I was able to make the connection from my own real life experience’s with two very sweet and caring women who under stress “Went in to a Fog”.
Is ANYONE STILL PRO-DP??!!
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/05/09/1987691/dna-testing-reveals-crucial-fbi-errors-in-another-murder-conviction/?mobile=wt
Sorry, if this link posts, it’s a mobile link, should be OK on a desktop though…
No Lainey.
The DP is barbaric ‘eye for an eye’ justice, soon they will run out of eyes.
There are now eight States that have don’t have a death penalty statute.
The innocence project has freed 306 from prison. Eighteen were on death row.
Exactly!! Have you seen what’s going on in Maryland this week?
You know, between the Innocence Project, the insanity in Tx, (I think about that innocent Dad, convicted on the “murder” of his sons, in a PURELY POLITICAL manipulation of so-called “Justice”,…those people are EVIL, plain & simple!!), the screw-ups at the FBI, Cynthia Sommer,..HOW can ANYONE STILL think the DP is acceptable??!!
I’ve had SO many “fights”, online & offline, about this trial and the DP. I am ASHAMED that fellow Americans think that “trial by media” AND killing, as one creep put it, “we’ll, so we kill a few innocents, it’s worth it to kill the bad ones”??!! MY. GOD!! WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE TODAY??!!
Ok, sorry, rant over and it’s time I got a couple of pages of studying in….(taking a few online courses, because I don’t give a hoot if my body gives out, as long as I still have my mind!! 🙂 . )
Lainey, Jodi had a pretty good answer to “what is wrong with people today “in her post-verdict interview.
ARIAS: A psychologist once explained to me that society has this need to persecute people. They get some sort of gratification from it. So there might be something going on there.”
I heard that. I will say, over that past 50 years though, our society has changed drastically. I can’t tell you how many counselors have tried to tell me that “many people today have no social consciousness” and that I HAVE to “learn to be assertive, don’t trust people when you first meet them, and learn how to say no”. I’ve also been told to “Divorce” my parents as their “control” and “conditional love” madness affects me to this day as they occasionally help me out financially. I have never done well at the first 3 things, and no matter the circumstances, I could never “divorce” my parents. At least in their mid-late 90’s now, they don’t really drink, and thankfully, my mother won’t speak to me, under any circumstances. ( my brother used to put her on the phone on Christmas & not tell her who it was, until my “Merry Christmas mom”, was met with “oh for gods sake, you put me on the phone with this piece of trash, I’m not going to talk to this THING!!”. Yes, according to my mother, I’m not human. Needless to say, after 3-4 years of that, and having to explain to his kids the remarks, my brother agreed, it’s hopeless).
I guess my bottom line is, HOW did things change so drastically? Or was I just so blind and sheltered when I was younger that I didn’t see this bloodthirstyness, nastiness, societal, ethical breakdown??
Maryland rocks as a state. I am beyond proud of this state and everything Governor O’Malley has been doing.
Maryland actually cares about domestic violence victims. When NO ONE else would help me with my appeal, this state stepped in as an amicus curiae and filed an extremely powerful brief in support of my position that I should NEVER have been ordered to disclose my home address to my abuser while I participate in an address confidentiality program.
I’m very glad I moved here.
Willie – I agree. I loved Jodi’s response. She was dead on.
Also Abused – I live in Maryland too. Born and raised. 🙂 What part are you in?
Hi Britney. I was born in Baltimore and lived in Edgewood through my childhood. Then I moved to this stinkin’ place. Lord knows there are times that I’d love to go back.
Come on back, Jeff. Plenty of jobs here.
Sure was right on.
You notice they always have to say most hated person in the world?
After Jodi, another one?
WHY?
Are most people that miserable, they have to hate someone to make
themselves feel better?
Pretty sad!
We have some pretty mean people and Jodi the most hated?
That is so bad and so not true.
You can tell Jodi doesn’t want to hurt anyone and truly does care for them.
She was abused, had to defend herself against her abuser and he’s a saint, she’s the most hated.?
Some people are just warped, that’s all!
Very sad!
I don’t want to say exactly where, Britney, but the suburbs of DC. How about you?
So you are probably about an hour and a half from me then. I live in Washington County.
Well, I haven’t gotten my password yet, but hopefully soon I can go vent too! lol
I bid you guys good night! Please keep Jodi in your thoughts and prayers! <3
We’ll do Sil!
Nite Nite Tony! talk to you soon! <3
Lol, I don’t need a password to vent, I think I’m doing pretty damned well without it!!
(End sarcasm). YES, I STILL would please like a password…unless, of course, you’ve all had enough of my rants?!?! Don’t worry, I PROMISE, LAST POST tonight, going night night before my Sita claws me to death trying to get me to turn over…she won’t lay down to sleep at night on “our” pillow until my leg is there to put her legs around, and she’s up against my tummy, with one of her paws on my clavicle in case I dare try to get up-or take her covers… Lol, who needs a man,..ok, don’t answer that..luckily, with all the Meds I’m on, there’s “one thing” I don’t have to worry about,…until they make a “little blue pill” for ladies at least…)
Geez, I KNOW I’m tired when THAT subject pops into my head… NITE NITE, SLEEP TIGHT, & DONT LET THE BEDBUGS BITE!!
I have started work on a systematic analysis of closing arguments.
To demonstrate no bias, I have taken the HLN list as my basis.
It’s here: http://jodi-arias.wikispaces.com/Closing+Arguments
I think this is my best page ever…
It shows how the two “hard” issues in closing arguments were
(1) Walmrt
(2) Horn’s testimony
That’s what remained of Martinez’ case.
And a simple use of google maps shows the Starbucks and
“Walmart Tire & Lube Express (inside Walmart)” at opposite ends of the same parking lot.
http://tinyurl.com/StarbucksAndInsideWalmart
Or a this image of Starbucks and Walmart Tire & Lube Express (inside Walmart)” here:
http://jodi-arias.wikispaces.com/file/view/StarBucksAndInsideWalmart.png
Some idiot called in HLN today asking if Jodi could be considered a terrorist given the mannerin which she killed Travis “on American soil”.
THIS is the mentality of the HLN viewers.
Yet, the Boston Bomber will probably get life.
Jodi gets a worse pnnishment, actually I consider it Alexander Family Revenge, than a real terrorist.
My heart goes out to you, Jodi.
“Some idiot called in HLN today asking if Jodi could be considered a terrorist given the manner in which she killed Travis “on American soil”.”
On azcentral.com a couple of days ago, they featured an article/video of the sentencing of a Mexican Drug Cartel perpetrator who DECAPITATED his victim in Arizona. His sentence? 15 years. Jodi? Life in prison or just slip the needle in.
Odd ‘justice’ they have down there in AZ..
What the fuck? A terrorist? Is everyone who kills someone else, accidentally, in self defense, or otherwise, a terrorist now????
3 women per day as a result of domestic violence.
Should we then consider all the men that murdered them to be terrorists too?
This is a statement to all those who stood outside the Arizona courthouse and screamed with joy and applauded the murder 1 verdict handed down by the jury in the Jodi Arias murder trial. They also had the audacity to hold signs supporting the little Hitlers appointment as Governor of the state of Arizona. That would be fitting for a state that is the lowest trash in our nation, and I know that for a fact first hand.
You weep for Travis Alexander, and you curse Jodi Arias. Yes you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what God knows, that though Travis Alexanders death, while tragic, probably saved other women from his abuse and degradation. And his demise though grotesque and incomprehensible to you, spared other women from his abuse and degradation, as suffered by Jodi.
I pray for Jodi, and only hope that some peace will come to her. God will provide her with salvation upon her ascension to the heavenly gates.