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Tuesday Morning Speculation + Jodi’s tweetingz

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Happy Tuesday peeps! :mrgreen:

So while we’re still waiting on the jury deliberations – and prior to them reaching a verdict of either an acquittal or manslaughter – I thought this would be a good time to ask which of those options you think the jury will come back with, and when.

I think they’ll come back tomorrow (Wednesday) with a manslaughter verdict. One of my other contacts think they’ll come back within the next couple of days with a hung jury, and Jodi’s gonna plead out with what she wanted to do in the first place.

Feel free to post your speculation & assorted thoughts here in this new page.

In the meantime, here are a few of Jodi’s latest tweetingz from late Monday night:

I would have signed a plea years ago to avoid this disaster, but I was refused a plea as the State and the family refused to settle. I wanted so much to avoid trial but the State forced it…

N. DisGrace has set back the cause of all women who have survived domestic violence. Her circus makes a mockery of something very serious.

Re: commissary,many of the items I didn’t receive were for indigent girls less fortunate than me. I, thankfully, have a mini surplus of food.

If you missed my post from this past weekend, the new “Survivor” t-shirts are now available. A portion of the profits generated from the sales will support other survivors of domestic violence, and go to Non-profit Domestic Violence organizations selected by Jodi.

It's NOT OK!

I also posted this last Friday – and I’m posting it again today in case anyone missed it:

To everyone that has contributed & posted here… your dedication & support over the past 4+ months has been truly amazing. Without you, the site wouldn’t have been anywhere near as successful as it is right now… and long may that continue. That also goes for the admins & techs that work behind the scenes too. Collectively and individually – and without a shadow of a doubt – we are all TEAM JODI and we are all very fucking awesome.

I’ll add another post this afternoon (JT) in relation to the burden of proof and Cheney Mason’s kick-ass Reasonable Doubt chart :mrgreen:

Until then – Remember…

WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND ANY DAY NOW – WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS.

Never question it.

Never doubt it.

SJ
Team Jodi

Don’t forget to check out the new Jodi drawings I added to the site this past weekend.

If you would like to help Jodi directly by way of a financial donation via check or PayPal, click here (or click the Team Jodi link below) for further details.

We Are Team Jodi ---- And We Will Be Victorious!

 

 

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      • Hmm Jeff is in Mesa, AZ, so what’s his prize? Perhaps he could have dinner with Kermit, Judge Pickles, Detective Flora AND the seven dwarves???

          • Awww really Jeff? It would be soooooo much fun for you. You could sing with Gloria Esteban all night long. “Hi ho, hi ho, it’s off to spoil another crime scene we go.”

      • SJ every one once a prize for being first we all love music and you can get the like to music and put it up as a prize its easy and every one loves music I like the old stuff in the 50 and some times the stuff in the 30 just find what they like and us it what you think

    • I am praying for Jodi. She will be set free and live to give God great praise and glory for this.

    • Does anyone know why Jodi’s mom and dad talked bad about her? Bringing up her teen years? How does Jodi feel about that? If you would ask her, and post, I would appreciate that. Seems funny the mom talked kinda bad about her, but supports her in court. Just curious.

      • I think this is where Jodi got her self esteem problems. I don’t know why they talked bad about her but the way they spoke it was a pattern all of Jodi’s life. That was the first thing I picked up. If it were my child I would say “No she didn’t”. Even if I thought it may be true, I would still say “No she didn’t”.
        I would then get a good attorney. When Jodi admitted she did murder him, I would say “There had to be a very good reason my daughter did that”.
        Both Jodi’s parents had multiple things they spoke negatively about. So the parents have their own loyalty issues. Regardless, they love Jodi. I am sure the mother feels guilty about not getting Jodi the help they spoke of Jodi needing. I am sure everyone in her family wants her life saved.
        I keep praying Jodi can get out of prison and really do something with her artistic talents. There is so much she has to offer.

    • Is there a place to find an address to write Jodie? I am in Thailand, and want to invite her to visit here after her acquittal, or short sentence for time already served. All expenses will be taken care of, she deserves at least that!

  2. G’morn E1 . .Wê ® #1!! . . have a cinnabun . .g2g for errands . .hang tight . . bbs

    • Jeff In Mesa 🙄

      your first congratulation is this your first time I’m 3rd on the site my computer shut its self down for updates and new virus stuff. sure love my new computer my last one the kkk killed it

      • Hi Tonya. This is actually my second time being first and I missed it yesterday by a few seconds. Can’t win ’em all. LOL

  3. Well I very much hope to see Jodi acquitted of all charges once the jury reasons that there is no proof beyond reasonable doubt that she did not simply defend herself from Alexander’s repeated attacks.

    Why would someone like Jodi have done what she did for no reason? I think she quite possibly had no other option when she slit his throat. Perhaps he had started to choke her, and it was her only chance, I don’t see how you can say for certain.

    • I suspect the slit throat was after he was dead.

      There is no other acceptable outcome because the state didn’t prove its case at all beyond a reasonable doubt, and its chief witnesses are tainted.

      The scenarios SJ pointed out in the post are distinctly possible, but if there is a hung jury, Jodi is in a much better position to plead down the charges than she was before.

      • My brain keeps returning to the blood atonement thing as the best explanation. I know it sounds crazy, but all those folks who committed suicide several years ago to join the aliens that they believed were coming even did that in a big group of people, so this type of stuff does happen every so often. If Jodi had some odd/eccentric leanings psychologically, like a lot of very creative types do, then under the severe stress of 6/4/08, she could have gotten pushed more that way and after TA was gone, she ‘undid the evil’, through the blood atonement. She acted alone, because she appears very self-contained & didn’t think to include anyone.

        • She acted alone in that she didn’t call 911 or run to a neighbor, like most people would do after their violent beau tried to kill them. I’ll try to discuss this better later.

    • Has anyone listened to Darren Kavinoky, and Anna Nichole’s Judge? Even they say the jury is watching ALL this! They took a jury vote on HLN After Dark, and most said they would lie to the judge about watching this, but they couldn’t refrain from it! Please tell Kirk, Jodi, etc… I have it all on DVR, and I’m saving it! This is not right, nor fair for Jodi! I said it day 1, the jury IS watching this!
      BTW – If that tape come out, TA was alive….. Turd wouldn’t have him IN jail, TA would be UNDER the jail! Just b/c he’s dead doesn’t mean it’s all on Jodi now! The emails, IM’s, text, etc… prove what a scumbag TA was!
      Uneducated-Uninformed people on HLN!
      I truly see what’s happened to our society!
      Walk one mile in MY shoes, then we’ll talk about abuse! TA was so abusive, and for HLN to say different is sending a BAD msg to women who don’t speak out – like me and Jodi! What a shame!

      • me also Missy….never spoke out….NG may leave Jodi alone now due to the women held against their will (in Hell) for 10years….his name is ario castro (another demon)…who kept these women captive 4 the last 10years…Hoping HLN is sued for all the damage to Jodi&Family

      • Bravo Missy, well said, All Jodi did was rid this world of a dirt bag that didn’t deserve to be here in the first place

        Ray in Harrisonburg Va.

  4. I’m very grateful that Gus Searcy had the courage to separate himself from the masses and stay true to his own convictions.does this sound like a cold blooded killer to you this is what Jodi said on her tweeter still reading

  5. . SJ, you’re an angel. from Jodi’s tweeter does that sound like a cold blood killer to you

  6. “Let us keep our mouths shut and our pens dry until we know the facts.” – anton j carlson what does she mean there what facts

  7. I think they’ll come back tomorrow (Wednesday) with a manslaughter verdict. but I would rather see them finding out who the man and woman was in the home and the roommate issue and Ashley Thompson and Dustin cleared up and why so many of the KKK clan pointed at Jodi right out the gate.

  8. I say hung jury on next Monday. Also why didn’t she get her full commissary? I sure hope she isn’t bullied I jail. I wish I could be patient. Poor Jodi has for 5 years. Wow.

  9. SJ, I should be sleeping, but I’m not, so I happened to read this and it makes me feel sappy. You shouldn’t be thanking us at all. You have provided us with the ONLY safe place on the internet where we can discuss our feelings about this ridiculous trial. Many of those who post here have tried to express their opinions on other sites and have been harassed and/or banned, and even stalked!

    You and your amazing team have kept us safe, tossed any haters sneaking in, been attentive to our requests and thoughts, and essentially, allowed us the free will to be ourselves. As a result, intelligent discussion has persisted for several months and friendships have blossomed. Many of us have discussed our pain about our own abusive relationships and our various life situations. Never once have you objected or told us that we’re off topic or overly verbose (which in my case is very true). Instead, you have always been gentle with us all. You are a very kind and very fair man, and one who actually seeks to help victims of violence and abuse — a rare commodity indeed.

    Not only that, but you have provided us with daily informative and humourous postings (which are often beyond hilarious) and which serve as conversation-starters on a twice-daily basis, updates about the case, videos from the trial, Jodi’s artwork, updates about Jodi, and so much more.

    I bow down to you, sir, for all your graciousness and generosity. I know that this site with all the required bandwidth must be costing you an absolute fortune. I can not thank you enough. We are all exceptionally blessed that you decided to start this site and that you have allowed us to congregate here. You are indeed an angel.

    • Also Abused I too thank this man SJ for this site and the wonderful team he has here I came here because I tried to comment on other sites and Just said it is wrong thou shall not kill and was attacked then came her and when he put up the Flores report I began to read it and stayed up 2 day trying to figure it out writing this down and an that down and after to days I commented that I was feeling like my bran was scrambled like Jodi said and the team read it and the next day they had an addition to it the detailed break down there good. I thank them for that I sill have questions about that report and about the lack of investigation he did not do … so SJ you are the best thing that happened to me and the rest of us here love the comment you made also abused he deserves a reward. I can tell you I have had my up and downs loosing a computer with virus the KKK gave me and getting a better on from my brother who wanted me off his. Thank you for responding that it is OK about the tarot cards loved how KN used the cards in his closing respect what you have to say will follow the rules you set. We love you very much SJ lets have a good day today. Jodi we are here for you let the haters come and we will attack you then SJ will shut you up for good so don’t start your shit here today this is our day and we will be victorious

      • tonya…love your comments girl….you bring a happy smile to my life everyday when I read your comments…thanks for taking that extra time to do the cards…I believe in them and the presence of angels too…

        • your welcome I try to do my best truthseeker1111 🙂 if the cards are right we are looking at 18 hrs but the trail lasted 4 months my be they will pull a lets stay 18 days just to show them and make them on HLN scream about it

        • I third their emotion. I don’t know how I would have managed through this trial without this site! And now the verdict!! Really SJ, whoever you are 🙂 , thanks so much. It is truly a safe haven for us. And thank you too, AA, tonya, and joujoubaby. I don’t comment that much, but I love reading your thoughtful comments. It does me so much good to read ALL the comments on this site. What a great bunch.

          • I fourth their emotion! Thank you so much for having this site. Plus you can tell that people who are guiding us who don’t know as much about the law are willing to share their knowledge. This is not a site that bashes TA’s side. It investigates, it finds true facts, it educates. A small amount of time is used to tell intelligent jokes about the other side. But this is about Jodi. Helping her, following her story, supporting her, supporting the causes she identifies with, recognizing her strength, and helping all of us to get through this serious ordeal.
            We also don’t need to like her because we are idealizing her as the perfect person. Yet the haters want to make Travis God like or the President. Travis’s situation is sad and I pray for him. But he held many deep down problems. That is okay but I am supporting Jodi. More truth came out about Jodi than anyone will have the nerve to admit about TA. Yet the writing is there. JM just worked so hard at deflecting it and lying while he was deflecting.
            Yes SJ, Thank you.

    • I agree with you AA…love your comments…

      SJ….you care and treat us all like family…many thanks and hugs to you SJ…you are one awesome person…I love being here too…

  10. To me she killed him in self defense. How she did it doesn’t matter. If the first shot or first stab killed him. Well he can only die once. That is when I feel she blacked out and snapped. All that pent up pain and degradation he did to her. I think hung, hope for acquittal and will accept manslaughter. Nothing more

    • I agree 100% and did from day one. There was a lot of passion in the killing, and that doesn’t happen unless you push someone to that point. The fact that they spend the day having sex shows she hadn’t planed on killing him, but after he used her and probably told her to get lost, she snapped. Any man knows women can be this way, and you know what not to say. But Travis was clearly stupid.

      My prayers have been with Jodi every day, and it will be over soon.

  11. In case some of you didn’t see my late posts from yesterday, this is soooo sad. Here is the letter Jodi’s mother wrote to the judge when Nurmi filed a motion to withdraw from the case after he left the public defender’s office and began his own practice:

    http://twitdoc.com/upload/zou2/ja-letter-from-jodi-mom-to-judge-re-nurmi-motion-to-withdraw.pdf

    It is heartbreaking to see what she wrote, especially about their own family struggles, Jodi’s father’s illness, and her concerns for her daughter’s life.

    • Also, here is Jodi’s own letter to the judge requesting that Nurmi be allowed to remain on her case in any capacity. Apparently, Nurmi informed Jodi, when he filed his motion to withdraw, that he would remain on her case as counsel anyway, even if he wasn’t compensated. Jodi was begging the judge to allow him to do so because of his familiarity with her case and the fact that she always believed he would provide her with the best defense. She says in the letter that she doesn’t care in what capacity he remains, as long as he remains.

      http://twitdoc.com/view.asp?id=94223&sid=20PB&ext=PDF&lcl=JA-Letter-from-Jodi-to-Judge-re-Nurmi-Motion-to-Withdraw.pdf&usr=zou2&doc=139833553&key=key-2gxotllz9sge8erm21fo

      Also, I forgot to mention that in her mother’s letter, she talks about how Jodi helps other inmates.

      And JM wouldn’t accept a damn plea deal, but instead allowed all of this to come out about Travis at trial, when Jodi didn’t want it to? Grrrr

      • I had not seen either of these letters before……very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

      • thank you for what you have found and shared what the hell happened to the money she spent to get help from the on business that tried to make a living at the damn PPL I thought you up your money up to get in and have legal council to help you so what happen to that guess Chris and sky Hughes fixed that I would never ever spend my money on a company that could do that and to top it off Gus Sercey was her mentor teacher so the mom had to beg to get NK to say with her case and Jodi pleading to the Judge. It is so sad she was railroaded by PPL I hope there business hits bottom.

      • The Media (HLN) talks about the millions plus dollars spent on her defense. The prosecution
        wants the DP even though in my opinion this is not a DP case. Az. allowed Lochner, who
        murdered six people including a child and wounded several others including congresswoman,
        Gabby Gifford to plead out and avoid the dp, but not Jodie.This million plus dollars could be
        spent on helping people including battered women to get help. instead it is spent on this trial and
        HLN is laughing all the way to the bank.

        • Joan,
          All of what you said is completely true. I couldn’t agree more. And this expense could’ve all been avoided but for some blood- thirsty people.

        • Speaking of Gabby Gifford, I hope the jury remembers this woman who was shot in the head by a higher caliber bullet, was not immediately incapacitated and currently is able to ambulate.

          • that is a fantastic point about Gabby!!!

            I am watching some of the trial again I am off today and you know they never found or tested for blood in the shower, I must have missed that but that seems important, because there should have been blood all over that shower if JM’s theory is correct.

        • Omg isn’t that the the coldhearted truth! We all deserve a fair trial, not that this has been fair, but money should have nothing to do with a humans life being on trial and JM and the family are the ones responsible for the cost of this trial they should have settled and someone other than prosecutors should make these decisions this just show how too much control rest in these peoples hands that tilts the scales for us all!

          You know what I have been thinking I wish that the jury were placed behind a two way glass so that the people at the trial cannot see who they are. Their names are not public record right?

          I think it will be very possible for a hung jury and I doubt elderly people will send a young women to death. But I do worry that some may feel pressured by stories of how Alyce and others on the defense have been attacked. I am sure they had to have heard of how people have threatened these people even if they haven’t they knew it going in if they heard how the country reacted to the jury on Casey’s case.This may cause some to be afraid of retaliation, this bothers me. I think that we need juror boxes that protects their identities so they can feel free and safe with their decision. The circus that is happening outside the courthouse its hard to believe they do not see or hear about it.

          I also want to thank SJ and team and everyone for a safe place to voice our opinions I know I have not posted much but I read all the post and feel so happy not to be all alone. It is a shame there are so many bullies out there my god even my own mother I hate to say it but people are so narrow minded and so judgmental, how can they think they are any better than they make out Jodi to be?

          Any ways, thanks and I hope we hear soon!!!!!

      • Dear lord.. I just read Jodi’s letter to the judge. What a mess; I’m so glad it worked out and Nurmi was her attorney. I’m also glad to see that she hasn’t had to sit aimlessly in jail for 5 years, but that the wheels of justice were indeed turning, albeit slowly. I very much commend her patience and gentle tenacity through all this – my approach would have likely been, ahem, much more radical, forceful and likely damaging. And I look forward to a positive, sensible and obvious verdict, and that any necessary jail time has been that she’s already served. Thank goodness for that at least.

        A possibly helpful tip for some regarding “haters”: I like to picture them as a pack of semi-deranged, hysterical pilgrims/early American settlers, all pointing fingers at a sensible young woman (an outsider compared to their own standards) screaming WITCH WITCH WITCH, trying to light a fire and scurry for rope. It’s comical, though serious, but should serve as a reminder that maybe less has changed in a few hundred years than we think it has and we should be steadfastly reflective and diligent concerning what’s actually going on around us.

        Happy Tuesday.

        • I agree it seems like a witch hunt. That’s how I see it and describe it to others. Horrible, terrible and sad!!

      • thank U 2 all here.. who gave us good infor….& made us laugh while we were so upset about the lies by HLN ,,,DA & his Mesa gang…so thankful 4 Nurmi..He is great

    • Thank you for the links AA! I fell asleep crying last night,reading Jodi’s mum’s prayer and am crying again this morning reading her letter and Jodi’s. You know sometimes the Universe is so harsh on people-their lives take unexpected twists and turns just like Jodi’s life turned into a living Hell.However,I do believe there’s also celestial providence and in Jodi’s case Nurmi and Wilmott were her providence.

        • Jodi’s mum wrote it in a secret FB group called ”Jodi arias’s acquittal page,friends and family.”

          Here it is,Jennifer.

          ”Sandy Allen-Arias
          Romans 12:12
          Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer.

          Jodi Ann Arias, You are my first born, You are my number 1. I love you more than you will ever know. I long for the day that I can put my arms around you. That will be soon. I know that God has his arms around you right now keeping you safe.
          Love, Mom”

          • That is so sad but the true way a mother feels. I cant imagine the ache in her arms from not being able to put her arms around Jodi. When our kids are little we protect them from dangers, even though my oldest is nearly 19 I still put my arm out when he is in the front seat next to me and I stop suddenly, when they skin their knees we kiss their boo boos away, when they get their first broken heart we are their to tell them that in time this pain too will pass, and then they are grown and leave our home…and we can no longer go into their rooms at night just to watch them sleep. We have to trust that the love you gave them and the words you said to them will be those arms around them in moments of trouble. I have been a Mommy for longer then I wasn’t one…I don’t remember what it is like to sleep with no worries about my children. When they are on their own you hold them in your heart and pray that the LORD is with them. But what does a Mom do when she cant take the boo boos away when the pain someone else has put them through is invisible to you when they are experiencing it. And then your child is somewhere that for the first time you can’t just hug them when the need arrises. Like I said before I cant imagine the ache in Sandys arms…that comes when you see your child cry and you cant wipe their tears away….

            • Awww Jennifer,you made me cry….Again.Oh boy,I have a feeling this week is gonna be long.Long and way too emotional.Give your children a big hug and kiss from me,all the way from Greece****

          • OMG Maria, that is soooo sad. Now, I’m crying again. Poor poor Mrs. Arias. She has held it together so very well in court and represented the family in such a wonderful manner. I sincerely hope she gets to hold her daughter very very soon. So much suffering! It’s amazing to me how much havoc and grief one abusive man can cause in the lives of so many.

            • I’m not married nor do I have children of my own.But I work with children and I get so close to them and grow to love them dearly so I can only imagine the pain a mother has to go through having her child put through all of this torture.

          • I’m all teared up again reading the prayer from Jodi’s Mom. I’m praying for the whole family, and I want to tell Jodi that I’m praying she gets out, and she should let her mother hug her and hug her even though she’s not a child anymore.

      • maria you are so very caring person I too cry for Jodi the letter and the prayers made me cry too.

        • Yes, maria, you’re really very sweet. Thanks for posting that for us.

    • Well AA I got my morning cry in…thanks… That was a heartbreaking letter. I kept thinking as I have many times what if that were my baby at the defense table. Her family has been very classy during this last 5.5 years and have proven to us as parents that when it comes to your child the old saying turn the other cheek apply 10 fold. They have not bashed the Alexander family like they have the Arias family. Her mother is such a strong amazing woman. I see where Jodi gets her inner strength from.

      • I’m so sorry I made you cry, Jennifer. I just felt it was so important that we, the members of this group, see the truth of the Arias family’s hardships and the decent people that they are. Not that we didn’t know it already, but it really brings it home. Also, many ask here on occasion why Nurmi tried to withdraw. Well, Jodi’s letter explains it, and also, that he offered to remain as counsel, even if he wasn’t paid. What a good and decent man he is. Obviously, this wasn’t just another job as a public defender to him. He really put his entire heart and soul into this case. That showed in his closing. I’m so glad he found someone as wonderful and classy as Jennifer Willmott to work with. They did their very best. Now, it’s up to the jury.

        • Oh I am glad that you posted the letters. It is so sad that they are going through that and the media attacks them like they do. I think Nurmi has such a great heart. The statement he made in court was said to make a point. I am so tired of people attacking him for what he said about 9 out of 10 days.

          • The media is just ridiculous. Half of them on HLN are defense lawyers. They’re put on TV a whole lot more if they criticize Jodi though. I have a lot more respect for the defense lawyer who are steadfastly pro-Jodi.

            I’m glad to see you this morning Jennifer. I pray for you every day.

            • yes, HLN has been against Jodie from day 1……….they had her convicted before the trial even started………….so did Nancy Grace…………..so sad

  12. Morning my cyber family!!! I just did some reading of what is similar to the Comic section in a news paper. It was some KNOW nothing reporter saying this site is the worst site on the web!!! The article was full of jibberish and the same moronic slurs that have been common during this trial so I had a little to say and this is the post. I had to pick anonymous because I do not have an account with the other choices or I would of written under my name and address!!!

    Anonymous said…What happened to responsible journalism? What you and HLN have done during this trial is NOTHING BUT CONTINUED ABUSE ON JODI ARIAS!!! This site is the worst site on the WEB!!! Juan Martinez kicks ass LOL more like is so short he has his nose up ass!!! It is funny how so many have taken bits and pieces from the trial and chose to believe them. I am so sick of JODI LIED!!! YES JODI LIED and she ADMITTED SHE LIED and I am sure all of you haters have lied once or twice in your lives!!! TRAVIS ALEXANDER lived a LIE!!! HE claimed to his family and friends he was a 30 year old VIRGIN while telling young ladies he wanted to tie them to a tree and **** her in her ass!!! But don’t take my word for that listen to Travis Alexanders own voice saying what he wanted to do.BUT I don’t hear HLN screaming about him being a liar! Yes this case is sad but so are the many each year where a man kills a woman during abuse but that isn’t splashed across every paper and web page…WHY because it is acceptable for a man to hit a woman. Well a woman finally got tired of being verbally abused, again look at Travis Alexanders own writings and listen to his voice,sexually abused, listen to Travis Alexanders voice, and physically abused and DEFENDED HERSELF!!! It is sad that so many are screaming for the death penalty…WIll that bring Travis back to his family?? NO!! All that will do is Kill someone to teach them that killing someone is wrong!!! If Jodi were someone you loved would you listen to the talking heads on HLN or ALL OF THE REAL EVIDENCE not just bits and pieces that fit your argument?? TWO FAMILIES ARE SUFFERING and ONE MAN lost his life and you people are cheering for more pain!!! You attack people who defend Jodi. We are speaking our minds with the SAME constitutional RIGHT that you publish your HALF truths and KKK type attacks!!!!

      • Thank you ladies…I was defending Jodi as much as this site here is the link to the article…It is the worst piece that has been written about this site since the trial began.
        I just got a message that mine will be posted only AFTER it has been approved..which I am sure it wont as it attacks their site

        • And you are very courageous for doing so but its best not to argue with fools— they are beyond reasoning with.

        • LOL,Jennifer I wrote a brief sth to all haters out there but got the wait till it’s approved comment.I guess they dont like people being pro-Jodi?

          • LOL I saw a few pro Jodi posts but not many. Those people are so ignorant!! I had to stop reading I was getting too riled up. LOL

    • Remind me not get on Jennifers’s bad side—well said very well said.

      • LOL that is so freaken funny!! I don’t turn on my family so you are safe. lol

        • Hugs to you—thanks for having a sense of humor—I know its hard especially now

    • Hi Jennifer! Well, if this site is officially “the worst site on the web” – then I’d like a trophy and a certificate to put on my office wall to celebrate the achievement :mrgreen:

      ***TEAM JODI FOREVER***

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      PS. I removed the link to the site from your post, as I didn’t see any advantage to publicizing it.

      • That’s ok I was trying to delete it myself. But couldn’t figure it out and was actually sending you an email asking you to take it off..LOL great minds think alike..

        • Good call removing the link. We are all super sensitive at the moment. I often wonder what sickening things could have happened in the hater’s lives to want death for Jodi. I am a strong Jodi supporter yet can feel for Travis and his family. I don’t agree with what Travis did and how he lived his life. Or his friends who go on HLN and so stupidly show the transparency of the whole situation. But I still hope Travis’s family can find some peace.
          So I can’t understand the people who are making this a witch hunt. I also think this has been an unfair trial to Jodi with a Jury that goes home all the time. The whole world knows what is happening. At least 90% of that jury is lying about not hearing anything about that case outside the courtroom. I would give them all lie detective tests at this point. First ask them that question about hearing anything or seeing anything or talking to anyone about the trial. Then, take each one of them individually for a lie detector test. Let us see who lies! Now we have liars deciding whether Jodi gets first degree murder with Martinez ringing in the back of their heads “Jodi Arias is a liar. You can’t believe a thing she says.” One person above that Judge needs to shut down this whole witch hunt. Arizona judicial system needs to take responsibility for this farce of a fair trial. Jodi, as always, my prayers are with you.

    • Well Said Jen!!! And my prayers are w/Jodi! I think there will be a hung jury, or if any charge, it will me Man 1….I am relishing that HLNr’s are probably sweating right now…they prob thought they’d have a conviction yesterday!! The longer this goes, the more they will panic!!! Can’t wait to see their jaws drop when there is no M1/DP verdict!!!! Their bloodlust will not be satisfied!!!!!

    • wow !!!!!
      that was awesome, I hope it gets posted, some people would change their perspective if they would just be quiet, listen and think.

  13. I made the sorry azz mistake of watching some of HLN last evening. Nancy Disgrace, Vinnie and Dr. F*ckface Drew are truly gag worthy and I wanted to throw my TV several times. They lie and report over and over on rumors, innuendo, and unsubstantiated info still and they heckle and make fun of Jodi the entire show. Will never watch any of their shows again.

    The two mock juries in large amounts admitted if they were on the jury they could not abide by the admonition of not viewing info elsewhere. Thats part of the reason I have been so utterly irritated that these people were not sequestered and that HLN and other news sources are on a virtual witch hunt instead of reporting in an objective fashion. They don’t even pretend to be objective or truthful on any level! The lies they told tonite I lost count of and I haven’t watched their shows in weeks.

    I think not sequestering this jury will either cause a mistrial or be a good reason of MANY for overturning the result and getting a new trial with a sequestered jury. The end result will tell the tale if the jury pool was tainted by outside LIES and FALSE info. Worse yet it can make them fearful to make the decision they really feel is fair based on the madness of the haters. Stand strong jury please—hang it if you must but no way no how M1.

    If they vote M1 they are biased and have been reading, watching and talking elsewhere about evidence not presented in the trial and things the judge shot down for various reasons. I am hoping this is not the case but I cannot believe that that many people abided the admonition.

    Trying to stay positive and good morning.

    • KALISTA DONT THROW YOUR TV or anything at it….I did that and it doesn’t stop HLN. I hit a brand new tv And HLN still keeps going. and smashed it!!!

      • oooh I hate this computer..that last line should of been
        I hit a brand new tv and smashed it and HLN keeps going

      • LOL I know I was so sorry I did it believe me—couldn’t settle down to sleep easily.

        • I think that a petition needs to be started nationwide to end HLN and their lies. I have found out through the correction from others on this site that the media has been attacking innocent people for decades now and Michael Jackson was one of them. I am tired of the way the media portrays people..the writers of our constitution would be saddened by the unethical free speech that is done today.

          • You know its comical when even the anti Jodi freaks are angry at HLN but from what I read these are some of the best ratings ever. Nancy used to be their golden goose with ratings and so they all followed suite with her and I am being kind in this wording “style”. They just pass that perfume Snarky Liars around and proceed roll around in it before each show.

            I have lost any last shred of respect for HLN and their parent CNN over this.

            • I think the reason the rating are so high is because that is the ONLY place to watch the trial on TV. Many people do not know how to connect their computers to their Tvs so they can watch the live feed off the internet with no interruptions.

              • I read that HLN had a strawberry Frappuccino party last week after closing arguments concluded! This is not a fucking party!

                The jury should have been sequestered. The temptation of “peeking” at media coverage is far too great.

          • I would sign that petition in a second. I used to like HLN but now since their never ending horrendous attack on Jodi I will never watch those clowns again! They have the “Jerry Springer crowd” wound up tight and ready to hurt Jodi and her supporters. They need to get a life and leave Jodi alone.

    • In the UK, there is NO way a tv station would be allowed to report in such a biased fashion. Can you imagine the BBC behaving like this???!!!!

      • I’ve hardly heard a whisper in the news about this trial. I don’t watch hln, but I know all about what’s on hln because all the people who love to hate it – and there appear to be many of them – talk about it ad nauseum. For many, it’s pretty much all they talk about, think about. Boring.

        • I got ‘hooked’ on this trial, but I’ll slip it once the verdict is in and get back to my real life, family, and friends. My first and last live streaming trial of murders that happen in far off places by and to people I don’t know, LOL!

          • And that’s what most rational people will do…but the haters will not just fade away if they get a verdict that they don’t like. Expect protests, more negative online book reviews, etc.

          • spring is here! LOL… my sentiments exactly! 1).HLN talk=boring… 2). First and last live streaming, etc. Got to get back to living…

      • I think part of that problem is the nature of CNN’s history; they got their big break as a network by broadcasting breaking coverage of the Gulf War so they trip over themselves to keep their corner on the market of drama and disaster. Plus, the medium of 24-hour ”news” ”reporting” is in itself excessive. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve wanted to tell Don Lemon to go take 5 … 5 hours, and come back when there’s something new to say. 😛 🙂

    • This is what I’m afraid those bastards are going to do. If it’s a verdict they WANT, they’ll leave it as is. If it’s a verdict they DON’T want, they’ll out the jury on watching TV and internet news.

      • The jurors should really be able to stay anonymous unless they choose to talk with media.

    • Lets hope that if they did see HLN that they would be disgusted, and would see how bias they are and see right thru them!!!!

  14. Hello everyone! Please forgive me for the long post but I feel this is something that I must say before this is over.
    I wanted to tell you all what a pleasure it’s been to be here. We’ve shared a lot over the past 4 months; anger, laughter, frustration, confusion, sadness and, I’m sure, more than a few tears. Each and every one of you are truly amazing people and I wouldn’t trade this experience for the world. It has been an honor to be here among such great people. Hell, you’ve become my second family!
    I can honestly say I would walk headlong into battle with any one of you – anytime, anyplace, no questions asked. After all, that’s pretty much what this has been hasn’t it – a battle? We’ve fought so hard for someone we’ve never met and may never meet. That says something about the character of each and every person here. You’ve conducted yourselves in an exemplary manner and I’m proud to have been a part of it. I’m also damn proud to call you friends.
    None of you have lost sight of what is really important here and that’s Jodi. She is the reason we gather here every day. She is the reason for our seemingly endless days and sleepless nights. We’ve not wavered, not one iota, from our belief in her and her innocence. My wish is that one day she’ll be able to come here and see the support she has. I think she’d be totally blown away by it.
    Long after the verdict is in and it’s all over I’ll be here. As long as this site is up I’ll be here. I can’t imagine NOT coming here and I’d love it if you’d join me when you can.
    You are all to be applauded for your honesty and I do so admire your guts and tenacity. So, EVERYONE, pat yourselves on the back for a job well done – regardless of the outcome. We’ve expressed ourselves in a fair and unbiased manner. We here speak the truth. We here speak the voice of reason. Which is more than can be said for the other side.
    So again, thank you, ALL of you. You should be proud of yourselves, I know I am.
    Finally, SJ, words are not enough to express my sheer gratitude for providing a place to come and share my thoughts in a safe and friendly environment. Thank you so very much and God bless.

    • Jeff it has been my honor to exchange comments and thoughts with you as well as the countless others.
      This hasn’t been an easy four months and yet you have been a constant support for me. I want to thank you for your kind words thoughts and prayers. It is the men on this page and the one that I luckily found that restored my faith in men. And I pray that Jodi is able to find the same when she is released VERY SOON. I began this trial thinking that she was guilty based on HLN and what was court tv. Then I learned what the real evidence was and when I saw Jodi on the stand and heard her voice I knew that she was a victim and I Knew right then and there that the media was being SO UNFAIR to this lady. I like you am so grateful for this site. It is nice to have a real discussion with people who are intelligent enough to look at the Real evidence and not just bits and pieces.
      Thank you for your prayers and again for all the well wishes that you have sent my way.
      I owe a great weekend to the prayers of my FAMILY on this page.

    • Here here. I am so happy I found the solace of this website with the vile stuff everywhere else. I too will remain here no matter what happens. I read for a long time before I posted–you guys and gals are all great!

    • Hi Jeff!!! You are so sweet. I promise I will be here too,for as long as the site is up,always in support of Jodi!!

    • Jeff well spoken will be here long after its over its family here love them all

    • great post jeff in mesa!

      I agree with you and I’m glad I found this place also.

    • Jeff-
      So beautifully said. This site has been a refuge for me and has given me hope that there are still good people in the world willing to fight for Truth and Justice. I too applaud SJ, Admins, and MB & JC, for the countless hours you spend keeping this site as a safe haven and for giving a voice to Jodi and all victims of Domestic Violence. I couldn’t agree more, that all of you here are the most intelligent, well read and commpassionate group on the web, and I too consider it an honor to have been with you in the fight for Jodi.

      I continue to pray for a full acquittal, and for the safety of Jodi, her family, the jurors and the Defense Team. Justice will prevail!

    • Thank you ALL for being a voice of reason amidst the chaos. I sincerely hope Jodi gets to read all this someday soon so she knows what amazing people she has had pulling for her and believing in her. Call me crazy but I wish that TA’s family could have had a site such as this to help them heal through all this as well. Maybe then they would not have turned this into the nasty witch hunt it has become. When you put people into a pressure cooker envirnoment they can become something they were not. I think this is what happened to them. They were caught up in the frenzy then they became the frenzy. This entire situation is a travesty. God Bless each and everyone involved.

    • I feel the same Jeff! : )
      This site and the people in it are the best therapy.
      Couldn’t do without them.
      Take care in Mesa
      Maybe run for judge or something! : )

  15. SJ,
    if anything we should all take a step back and thank YOU from the bottom of our hearts.
    You ‘ve been nothing but a ”painkiller” (lol)all along,patiently,wittingly,supportively,generously relieving us from the pain of wanting to support someone,to fight for a cause and having nowhere to go.Indeed,we would have no place to turn to unless you had created this ”safe haven ”as I like calling it.Personally,I want to thank you even more because I would LITERALLY wouldnt have anywhere else to find info about Jodi.I would rely solely on FB and god knows that aint a good place to get informed!You were my saviour,my parent,my guide.All the posters here have been an invaluable source of knowledge for me,a novice in all legal stuff.
    When I talk to my family about Jodi and this site I start my sentences with ”my friends said that…” ”my friends wrote that….”. And I mean it.
    Thank you SJ and all.

    KEEP PRAYING FOR OUR SISTER,OUR FRIEND. OUR JODI.

    • Agree whole-heartedly ! I, too, appreciate the work SJ has done with this site.

      • Agreed 10000%!! SJ you have given us a place to be a family in support of Jodi. THANK YOU!! I know I have told you that many times but I am so greatful for this site because I know the information I get here is accurate unlike in the news. SJ you have worked so hard to give us a place to discuss with others our views and to ask questions we are wondering about. You keep out the haters and let in people who truly want to have an educated conversation though they are Pro Prosecution. THANK YOU !!!

        • SJ is the awesomest :). I’ve been following Casey’s site since late 2011, and it’s been a pleasure to post on Jodi’s with all of you as well!

    • Yes, thank you SJ for providing this site! It’s interesting how many intelligent people we have here, and so different that the “hater” sites.. We have class and have serious discussions regarding this case, and don’t sling mud and spread hate!! I’m thankful that you have provided a forum where we can express our feelings about this miscarriage of justice and show support for Jodi! Thanks again for doing this for us, but especially for Jodi!!

  16. Back to the question at the top I have no idea what will happen but I’m thinking a hung jury is a real possibility. People on the outside have such strong opposing theories and opinions. It stands to reason the jury may be the same and may not be able to find a common ground they can agree on.

    • I’m torn between Manslaughter and a hung jury. Strong opposing opinions may result in the jury being unable to compromise. But, I think if they do come together with a compromise, it will be Manslaughter.

      • The ONLY reason there is even the alternative of a manslaughter verdict is to avoid a hung jury. It has nothing to do with whether Jodi “lost it,” because that can’t be proven, either, just as self-defense can’t be DISPROVEN.

        The CORRECT verdict is acquittal because of no evidence any of the other possibilities is what happened and the tampering of witnesses.

        A hung jury is a distinct possibility. You would hope Martinez would have enough sense to approach the defense and negotiate a plea deal.

        The family should have NO say in this after this screw-up.

        • I agree tonysam,
          They shouldn’t have in the first place.
          Her plea was for 2nd and they wanted NOTHING but the death pentalty!!
          jaun too!

  17. Site admin. : I thought I posted on this page, either it hasnt posted yet or I put it on the wrong page. Its kind of long can you tell me if I put it on another page, it is 3:30 am so I probably made a mistake I would just hate to rewrite it again, it is my first post. Thanks for your help.

    • yvonne you can go to the right of this page and look for your name and it will tell you were it is and click on it and it will take you there not computer literate but this site I have learned a lot on were to go and what to find just need to point and click love this site

  18. Another day to wait. I am glad I get to do it with all of you wonderful people! 🙂

    • the 2nd degree murder it is somewhere above you can see the lawyer did file for it but the pros said hell no

      • Well she is going to get manslaughter ( or even walk!!) now. So juan is going to be pretty peeved he didn’t take that in the first place. Ha ha ha ha ha

      • Well she is going to get manslaughter ( or even walk!!) now. So juan is going to be pretty peeved he didn’t take that in the first place.

        • Exactly. He was a fool. Especially since he’s previously lost 3 capital cases where the jury convicted on manslaughter instead.

      • Go to Court Docs above, then view the link titled “Plea Bargain Document – 2011”.

      • Nope. She had to have done it with the intent to kill. There is no evidence she did.

        She either “lost it” after an argument, or she killed in self-defense. The first can’t be proven, and the second can’t be disproven.

        Acquittal is the only correct verdict. Anything else and the jury is tainted.

        • Sorry for the confusion tonysam. i was saying 2nd degree was the plea she was offering. I personally am praying for her freedom.

    • Back in 2011, she offered to plead to second degree murder, Shalk. That would carry a penalty of 10-22 years.

      • It must have been heartbreaking for her to even agree to that plea. 10-22 years is a long long time. That basically means she would have given up hope of ever starting her own family. Heartbreaking.

        • Remember that she’s already put in almost 5 years…so if she does get second degree and is sentenced to 10-15 years or so, she could be out by her early 40s.

  21. I think the fact that the jury hasn’t reached a decision yet, is a good sign. If they were all on the same page, thinking alike, they would have swiftly formed a verdict. I say hung jury as well.

    Well done to the team here, and thanks for providing this safe outlet for us all. Jodi’s defense team did a stellar job too i might add. i’m glad to have stumbled across this site a few months back to find all of you here that thought outside the box and listened to your hearts and not the cult (HLN) and its followers.

    Bless you all 🙂

    • I have to be honest I’d rather have a hung jury than M1 anyday. Jodie’s side would be more prepared too if that ends up happening.

  23. Tonya,
    have the cards shown you anything regarding Jodi’s dad’s health?
    I read cards too,a deck of cards known as Deste,dont know if you’ve heard it-it’s very powerful,considered ‘magic’.

    • No to both question will go look it up on the net afraid to ask about the dad my sister husband is on dialias it is very hard on the body I dont like it when I get the 4 of swords and the death card at the same time it means death although the reader is never suppose to say it to some one but it has happen to me with two people

        • I know what you mean.It’s always hard when I see sth ominous in tha Cards.The thing with Deste is that you may not ask about sth but the Cards will tell you anyways,so even though I didnt actually ask about her dad it came up anyhow.That’s why I asked you if you had seen sth too.

          • no the death card has not come up here so far but the devil did that showed Travis and Jodi

        • Trying these out today. Only physical deck I found in my suppliestoday was a herbal Tarot. Just didnt feel right.

      • Tonya, the Death card is a good card tho, it means rebirth. Also was it reversed or reg? Swords mean strife..I’ve had a deck for over 25 years, but don’t do the cards very often. When I do, I use the Celtic layout..Have faith!

        • Sorry Tonya, re-read your post..no Death card, but The Devil..what layout are you using, and where did the card appear in the spread? Devil card can mean hopelessness, indulgence, journey in life off course..Reversed, indecision and weakness, don’t be timid, free self from past habits

  24. Just saw where Donald Trump thinks Jodi is guilty and tweeted her she should accept a deal. What a dumb f#ck he is! I can’t imagine why he wasn’t elected President? The verdict is in the hands of the jury now genius. Go fire yourself.

    • here we go $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Donald Trump jack ass don’t you hate people that have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and never use it for something good just want to make more I’m glad I just make enough to live or I will go to heaven

    • He’s another one who’s show my husband has banned/boycotted due to his stupidity during the last election. He’s a rich irrelevant epitome of bad hairdos of a creature. He doesn’t even know the facts in this case just looking for attention.

      • LOL He claimed the other day that Jodi was following Him on twitter..LOL

      • “He’s a rich irrelevant epitome of bad hairdos of a creature.”

        OMG Kalista, that cracked me up sooooo bad!

      • Yes Kalista! Plus, the dude is ORANGE! wtf? Whenever I catch a glimpse of him on TV…I’m half expecting for the animal he uses on his head as hair, to take off running! 😯

      • LOL Kalista, really!!!! What on earth is Donald Trump doing making comments on this???!!! And why is HLN airing it???!!

    • Donald Trump is a tard and should stick to real estate. I heard him on my way to work. I always have talked to myself a little bit but it’s getting out of hand lately with the trial and HLN. lol

    • Well, at least they finally found someone to comment that doesn’t need their 15 minutes of fame or the money, lol.

      Maybe The Donald should just swap hairpieces with Kermit and have done with it :mrgreen:

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      • LOL! Kermit would look just smashing with Donald’s hair!

        The Donald obviously has no idea how trials work if he thinks that Jodi can just accept a deal right now. She has to be OFFERED one first, dumbass!

    • Donald Trump & Nancy Grace:

      A match made in heaven ( or shall I say hell?)

  26. Guys

    We don’t want a hung jury. Nothing good lies there. That would mean a do-over for the state. I doubt if JM will settle for a plea deal, unless his boss forces him to. And JM can’t screw up again. As AA said, we may not like him, but he is a seasoned prosecutor. You won’t see DeMarte again, and Flores and Horn will have their story down pat, and maybe JM will take a chill pill.

    The prosecution almost always has the upper hand on a re-trial. This is why I wasn’t keen on a mistrial, and will definitely not root for a hung jury.

    I still think we’re going to get a manslaughter verdict. The evidence will not support anything more. If it wasn’t for that neck wound I’d bet on an acquittal. Given that neck wound I’m saying manslaughter. In descending order of probability I think the likely verdicts are:

    Manslaughter
    M2
    Acquittal
    M1

    It’s sort of like when a cop stops at an accident – someone’s going to get a ticket. You have two folks who got into a tussle – one is dead. Chances are the jury’s going to find someone at fault, and the probability is its going to be the one that came out alive.

    Again, just one man’s opinion.

      • I hope you’re right too!

        I know that a lot of pro-pros supporters thought that the jury would be back in 15 minutes with an M1 verdict yesterday. They were shocked that it didn’t happen. I mean, really?

    • Yes, a hung Jury would suck. I agree that Manslaughter will be the likely verdict. M2 a close second. Like I said above, I think the jury may have extreme opposing opinions and be unable or unwilling to compromise, resulting in a Hung Jury.

    • Agree Al.The little understanding I have of the american justice system tells me hung jury or mistrial dont sound like a good alternative in Jodi’s case.

    • We have to mentally be prepared for any outcome including hung jury. I know we will be devastated but its better than M1—JMO.

    • but what if they find that the second story was true and they found evidence to support that would that not be a good thing Al

    • And one woman’s opinion. I agree with you wholeheartedly, Al.

      And yeah, I hadn’t even thought of that — it will give them time to get that Dr. Jill blonde woman (what was her name) up to scratch so they wouldn’t have to use DeMarte again. Not only that, but I doubt Dr. Samuels or ALV would want to go through it all over again. Dr. Geffner probably would and he’d certainly still be a great witness. But who wants to go through all of this harassment?

      • DeMarte was a terrible choice for a witness. I don’t know what Kermit was thinking there.

    • I don’t want a hung jury.

      I just think it is the most likely scenario.

      The case has been too polarizing, and I do not think there will be a meeting of the minds between the people who want her dead and the people who want her freed. Acquittal folks, like US, might compromise to manslaughter, but the folks who want her dead are not going to back down.

      JMO.

      • Hopefully no one on the jury wants her dead…and they’re not supposed to be deliberating on life vs. death at this point anyway.

    • Was Martinez assigned to prosecute this case or did he select it? If it were to be re-tried, would he have to be prosecutor again, or could that change? I don’t really know how all that works in general, and even if I did, AZ is likely to have their wonky exceptions muddle things up…

      • Actually, I gather they had a different prosecutor first, but then for some reason it was reassigned to dipshit.

    • I agree with you, Al. I read all those posts. I’m praying for manslaughter. It’s the appropriate verdict.

    • Again, how will you prove the neck wound is proof of anything when you have an ME who is corrupt?

      Any verdict other than acquittal is proof the jury has been watching television.

      I would really question their reasoning in absence of any proof of anything other than self-defense.

      • A medical examiner who is corrupt AND a lead detective who is corrupt. And who is part of that little trio? Juan Martinez. I agree, tonysam. If I were on the jury, I’d be pointing that out constantly.

    • Agree AL, hung jury would not be good…I guess I’m just praying for anything other than a M1/DP conviction!!

  27. Jodi Arias is innocent and Victory is near. Can’t HLN/ Nancy Disgrace get in trouble for posting pictures from this website without authorization: Jodi’s artwork, because that’s exactly what they did mon. night. Also cant they get in trouble for defamation of character when they say that Jodi slashed his tires, stole his ring, stole the gun from the grandparents,they are saying she stole and vandalized. That just seems illegal to me and way more serious than all the other bs they perpetuate about her solely for the purpose of making money to sell scandal.Drew pin dick is also in this category, the bullies all stick together propagating lies for $. It’s really scary that so many idiots believe what they say without ever questioning their motive or watching any of the trial for themselves. I wish this website could have equal airtime and be on HLN right in between Disgrace and PIn Dicksky. Another scary issue is all the victims that have come out because they can relate to being abused like Jodi.So many women are victims from abusive assholes like Travis.I’m one of them. I’m glad that they have a voice and get support here(the people here are really amazing and supportive, its such a healthy and positive vibe), the complete opposite from HLN- I know I try not to watch but occasionally I’ll catch a glimpse when surfing and then I cant help but get really crazy mad like tonight when they said “Jodi was giving the prosecution a sign for slitting their throat” when all she did was rest her hand under her chin and slightly scratch, the shit they say is just maddening and ludicrous.Half the time its so stupid you just have to laugh- but then you remember that Jodi is fighting for her life and just because they can make more money with lies, they dont care if they kill her by media murder. It could just as easily be you on the stand , millions of people watch this crap and believe it, we have to try and stop the media lies and bullying.

    • Hi Yvonne, I found your earlier post in the TV/Transcripts page and re-posted it here for you.

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      • your are the best site owner that ever lived we love ya to do that for her

    • I saw that too where Jodi had her hand under her chin and they said she made a sign of slitting her throat. I agree that it’s laughable if it wasn’t so serious. Can’t these people see how utterly simple they are? I am just shaking my head at the rediculousness of it, but a human life is at stake here.

      • Even the hater sites thought that HLN was reaching with that one. They are disgusting.

      • Bev, they are so evil that I can’t even watch them anymore…I get physically ill if I do…Life is short..I won’t let them wipe me out with all of their hate and negative energy and lies!!!!!!

    • Hey Yvonne, welcome. Love your post, love your views. I’m so sorry you were also a victim, but you’re in good company here.

      Unfortunately, I don’t think HLN can get in trouble for what they’re doing. Freedom on the press, and all that. Plus, a few years ago, Fox News was sued for presenting false information and they got out from under it claiming they’re an entertainment company. Ugh! Don’t you love how they can call themselves “news” and really be entertainment for sickos?

      • It’s not freedom of the press to create a lynch mob mentality. They have been sued because of reckless remarks.

        • True TS! Putting the lives at stake of innocent people should not be listed under “freedom of speech” since they reach such a vast majority of people!!

  28. Well, I’m still not asleep and have been up all night. I got very very pissed at my ongoing work saga yesterday evening after thinking further about an email I received from my boss. She actually said that a co-worker laughing about my seizure disorder disability, calling it “ridiculous”, calling me a liar, and calling my attempt at progressive relaxation to prevent a seizure a “crazy type of breathing” does not constitute harassment under the firm’s policy. I spent most of yesterday evening and all night writing, editing and re-editing a response (which I sent to HR as well) detailing the law. I also included reference to the other times my boss has harassed me about my zodiac sign (even though I said I found that offensive), told me that saying “How was your weekend” to another employee is inappropriate, her repeated comments about my height (or lack thereof), and her comments about my abusive ex-husband. To write it, I put on my “I went to law school” hat, but as usual, it’s pretty long and detailed. I finally sent it a little while ago, after making final revisions. I have no idea how it will be received by HR. They work for the firm, after all. I also have no idea how I will be retaliated against for it, but I don’t expect it to be pretty. I just don’t really care anymore. I have had enough of being bullied and harassed by my boss. It has affected my health and that’s not funny anymore.

    I’ve worked my butt off, worked all sorts of insane hours, canceled doctor’s appointments at the last minute because someone else called in and she was short-handed, canceled dinners and stayed late because she forgot to schedule someone to work late, given up any semblance of a life because I never know what my schedule will be and can’t make any plans and she won’t give it to me until late on a Friday, and then it changes anyway, never been able to take a day off until the last minute in case someone else asks for the day off, and put up with her harassment and now, a co-worker’s harassment in front of her. If it comes down to me losing my job because I stood up for myself finally, well, so be it.

    I didn’t get away from my abusive bastard of an ex-husband after 13 years of sheer hell only to stick my head in the sand and allow myself to be abused and bullied in the workplace and make my life a living hell all over again. There just HAS to be more than this to life, doesn’t there? Somehow, I’ll survive. I don’t know exactly how yet, but I will. I’ll get another job. I’ll find one. Someone will hire me. I deserve some sort of break. Life just can’t be shitty ALL the time, can it?

    If you guys have any good joujou left to send out, or any little prayers you can include me in, I’d totally appreciate it.

    • Sending a prayer and a smile your way. I have faith in you. You WILL get through this, I’ve no doubt!

    • I will certainly pray for and send you white light AA!You deserve to b treated with respect.The workplace should not be like a schoolyard full of bullies.My best friend works in a bank,he was more than happy when he found that job when all Greece is sunk into Depression and unemployment.A few weeks after he took it,problems began.He sacrificed everything,working from early morning till late evning non-stop only to be bullied,ridiculed and exploited by his boss and colleagues.And mind you,among 15 co-workers he’s the most qualified and bright.This however didnt stop them form making his life a living hell and affecting his mental and physical health even,
      It was only he found the strength and courage to stand his ground and sue some people that he could breathe again.

    • Me too how can ya sleep when a life is one the line my eyes hurt my butt hurts and my back but can stop it is like a drug need coffee and a sig

    • can you go over your boss head I did that with one of my jobs and he was fired for it …. they should not be doing that to you and you should get a lawyer but don’t spend your money on PPL company

      • I’m not sure where to go, Tonya. It’s a law firm, so I guess, over her head is the management committee? Or is it HR? If so, I copied the HR Director. Thing is, they’re all in NY, they don’t know me from a hole in the wall. My boss is the office administrator in DC, where I work. It’s a sticky situation.

        • my best suggestion is the next time hold up your hand and say talk to it let it go in and then out if you have worked there for some time they will not fire you that would mean they will have to pay unemployment you have medical issue ignore them word cant hurt you. Tell God to help you give this probable to him and be at peace. start looking for new job start over you will find what you want just look and put your info out to others and see what happens keep you job till it does. then when it happens you can say kiss my ass

        • OMG I cannot believe that this is happening in a law firm. Aren’t these the people who should know better? I am sorry to hear about your situation. My 16 yr old was diagnosed with a brain tumor after staring to have seizures. The hardest part for him was feeling like a freak. He had the most amazing supportive friends through it all. I was humbled and touched by how these “hard ass” sixteen year old boys came around my son and took care of him physically and emotionally. He couldn’t drive and there was always someone there to take him anywhere he wanted to go. He is great now (after surgery) and is seizure free (to the best of my knowledge…he would lie about a seizure in a heartbeat to keep driving) I am just dumbfounded that these children with no life experience were better humans than those with higher educations that you were so misfortunate to have in your life. Ever need to talk get my email from “the guys” and I am here. Prayers to you!

      • I’m so sorry that this is continuing. If I could share with you one thing it would be “faith” from having been exactly there myself that it can be better. Part of it for me was acceptance of the illness, and not trying to overcome it, but to live with it and the limitations that it brings. You don’t have to meet her expectations to be good at your job. Very likely that cow despises you because she feels inferior. You will not let her win.

    • AA – I am sending prayers and happy thoughts your way. I hope that your letter to HR is well received and your are not retaliated against.

    • AA,

      I really feel for you. I went thru a very similar situation a few years ago, which went on for 12 yrs. I felt so alone and even though 2 of my co-workers saw what I was going thru, they were afraid to speak up due to fear of retaliation.

      I finally had a sort of mini break down at work. It was like suddenly nothing made sense to me. I would look at my computer screen and it might as well have been blank. I just mentally shut down. I went to my boss and said I wasn’t feeling well and then went straight to my dr. and was immediately hospitalized. My Dr. took me off on stress leave for 6 mo.

      When it was time to return to work, I realized I couldn’t go back so I ended up retiring 3 years short of my retirement age. Because of being diagnosed with clinical depression and PTSD I was able to get SS disability. It has really been a struggle mentally and financially.

      I hope you get some relief soon. Every time I read your posts I really feel your pain. I wish I could offer some sage advice but I know from first hand experience, what a difficult situation you are in. Do you think a Dr. or, if you have a therapist, could take you out from work on stress leave? It sure gave me some space to get some prospective and clear my head enough to decide what to do.

      Anyway, I just wanted to let you know how much I understand and you will be in my prayers.

    • CALL THE POLICE AND TELL THEM YOUR BEEN EMBARRASSED BY them

      dont make it an employment issue when reporting harassment

      have you told them to stop?

      have they continued?

      if YES to both, the its harrasment

    • Now THATS the AA I LOVE!! Who gives a RATS ASS if you lose a job that is only making your life hell? I can only imagine how devastating it has been for you lately, but can you imagine the devastation of enduring the abuse only to be given the boot? NO! You go out on YOUR terms! Even if you are forced out after this the one thing that you WILL have is your PRIDE and that, my friend, is PRICELESS!!
      I can’t tell you how proud I am of you for standing up for yourself. Now I would LOVE to see you change your name to “ABUSED NO MORE”.
      – With all the love I can muster-

    • AA,

      Of course you’ve had my concern and my prayers, even before you asked. I don’t think it would be the worst thing in the world if you lost that job. It might be very good for you. Anyway, I would look for another job. To hell with them.

    • Screw your co-workers AA!!! You don’t need to listen to them..I’ve worked in offices before…gossip, backstabbing etc…You hang in there, and don’t care what they are saying, you take care of yourself, they need to grow up!!!!!

    • AA
      just read your post. You are in my prayers, would it be okay for you if I’d send you some distance healing to strengthen you?
      hugs vebe

  29. SJ , thank you so much I was going crazy looking thru every page, I never would of found it there.

      • I did. I just checked my email. I hadn’t checked it yet today and I responded to it also. Thank you.

  31. Anyone have a clue what Vladimir Gagic meant by this tweet?

    Vladimir Gagic ‏@vlga 4 May
    “@Jodiannarias: 9 days out of 10… that sounds about right.”

    Lawyer/client not liking each other never been winning appeal #jodiarias

    • I think he was referring to what Nurmi said in his closing about not liking Jodi 9 out of 10 days.

      • I personally took that to be in reference to Nurmi and Jodi just not seeing eye-to-eye about aspects of how to conduct her defense. Like the fact that she wanted to keep as much underwraps as possible to protect the feelings and reputations of others when her own life is on the line (?!*@?!!). Even when Nurmi, ever so über gently, pressed Deanna on points about her sexual relationship with TA, you could see Jodi was visible uncomfortable with that line of questioning and her jaw even dropped at one point. And then the ”press” lights up about how inappropriate he was in concuding that. People. Really..?

      • you do know that was humor to play on the hearts of the jury

        sometimes words like are synonymous of affection

        we say things like that at weddings to the bridesmaid , it grabs the heart, it actually means the opposite

        and thats what Numri was pressing for

        when jodi said her sister was dumb, that was the same type of thing, we say things like that about the ones we love or like sometimes,

        its known as ” terms if endearment “

          • It sounds like he left out a word…”lawyer/client not liking each other (has never) been about winning (an) appeal.” Sounds like a response to the haters who theorized that Nurmi said he didn’t like Jodi on purpose so that she could file an appeal for ineffective counsel.

    • No offense to you AT ALL, AA, But just a quick FUCK YOU to Gagic. I can’t stand that pansy ass knob slob!! He showed his true colors when he pussied out scared shitless over our infamous “body bag pic”.
      He got more traffic form our site thanks to SJ than he would have ever gotten on his own. THEN he shit on us to “save face” with the haters. If he was loyal like he should have been (if for no other reason than the fact the SJ MENTIONED his name) he could have privately addressed the situation. No, he was all over twitter denying his ties with us. Then he had the NERVE to throw them a bone by posting the sheriff’s email so they could stop Jodi’s tweeting. Fine if he didn’t necessarily “support Jodi”, but to actively work AGAINST her and US, was UNFORGIVEABLE, and he can suck a limp one for it!

      • “But just a quick FUCK YOU to Gagic. I can’t stand that pansy ass knob slob!! He showed his true colors when he pussied out scared shitless over our infamous “body bag pic”.”

        Love it Kmiller!!!

        Gagic is a pu$$y. I removed him from my twitter and FB because of that.

        • Lol! Thanks guys! The love here is astounding! I know I must sound violent, but I am truly a lover, just very passionate about our site and Jodi’s freedom! 🙂
          If there is one thing I can’t stand it’s a backstabber!!

      • LOL!! I love love LOVE when you unleash your unhealthy communication patterns!!

        heheee!

        And yes, to everything you said! Fuck YES!

    • I think he meant that nearly every lawyer and client have that dynamic. From his other tweets, he taunts the pros and HLN, so…

  32. First, I want to thank you SJ for giving me a home to come to. When I first took notice of this trial, on HLN of course, I was just sitting there yelling at NG. I live alone so I have no one here to talk to about it except my dog Draco. I am not overly assertive and I do tend to go along at times, but I have two daughters a few years younger than Jodi, so I guess this struck a nerve with me. This time in particular I just knew I couldn’t go along.

    Thats when I started looking on the internet, hoping to find more info without the bias attached. I very quickly found this site and knew that I was home. Most of the people I come in contact with here aren’t even aware of this trial, but one co-worker I work with agrees with me that it’s all bull we’re getting from HLN.

    I brought this up to another co-worker the other night and was able to completely turn her around, thanks to the FACTS I have learned at this site. She was quoting nothing but lies she was getting directly off HLN. I was so thankful that I was able to convince her with my knowledge, thanks to all of you.

    My hope is that Jodi is found innocent, however, I feel we are more than likely looking at either a hung jury or manslaughter.

    I also hold out hope that even if some of the jurors have been accessing the media, that they also are using their brains like we are and realizing that they are being fed a line of shit. After all, we found our way here because we knew something wasn’t right. I also have hope that some of them feel the way we do about the death penalty and will hold out rather than send her to death row.

    Well I worked a night shift so I have to catch my beauty sleep. Thanks again to you all for giving me a safe, sane, intelligent place to give and recieve support. You ALL rock!

  33. I’m watching Day 7 of the trial where they played Jodi’s interrogation with Flora and Fauna where she’s giving the intruders story.Not saying that I believe it but I’m still indignant by how unwilling Florecito is to even care to listen to her,he says ”From what you’re telling me and from what I know about Travis and all his dealings,there’s no reason anybody would go after him” I beg to differ,Fauna!!! Nobody really knew Travis and if you had taken the time to dig a bit further you would have seen there’s a lot of shit smelling bad!!But how can we ask you to when you cannot see beyond your own nose,as we greeks say!!!

      • Arent they the ugly step sitters names off of one of those Cinderella remakes??

        • Flora, Fauna and Merryweather:the 3 good fairies of Disney’s Sleeping Beauty.
          But hey!! Florez sure is NO fairy,just an evil witch along with Kermit the frog Martinez.

          • Yeah I know in the original but there was a spin to the Cinderella story a few years ago that had Anne Hathaway in it called Ella Enchanted…I thought that was the sisters names…but not sure.

    • ”From what you’re telling me and from what I know about Travis and all his dealings,there’s no reason anybody would go after him”

      Droopy Dog is the WORST detective I have ever seen…and I know a couple and I also know a couple of private investigators.

      The two I have shared my thoughts with regarding Droopy Dog’s investigation also agree with me.

    • I think that’s really very possible Maria. He and his family were estranged, his roommates weren’t besties with him, and he was in way over his head financially. Loan sharks, anyone?

    • Oh I often use that phrase, maria, its a good one, says it all! I’d no idea it was Greek! 🙂

      • What time is it there now?? I get confused about what time zone they are in

          • WOW you need to get to bed. You will be a walking zombie today. Wow that is only two hour difference I guess I thought it was bigger.

          • I was just thinking the same thing, Jeff. I get so caught up in reading everyone’s posts I loose track of time. I’m on same time as AZ here in CA.

    • Supposedly at 9 but yesterday some people said they will start 10 o’clock.Jodi’s Time.

    • I thought I read in the tread from yesterday afternoon that they are starting at 10am.

  35. Well all I have to get lil lady ready for school. She again is refusing to go because she wants to be here with me to hear the verdict. I cant believe the love she has for Jodi and she never met her. My daughter has told me that Jodi has a good spirit and that is why she loves her. I don’t argue with that.

    • Your lil one is right.Jodi’s aura is very serene and beautiful.

    • A good mommy would run pick her up from school during that 45 minute window:) just sayin……

    • Mine wants me to text her if the verdict comes in during school. She feels connected to Jodi as they both are artists.

  36. SJ once again, thank you very much for having a site where we can show our support for Jodi and for anyone who has suffered from domestic violence. As for the verdict, while I’m praying for an acquittal – I believe the jury will come back with Manslaughter. If they do, let’s hope the judge does the right thing with sentencing.

    • No Juan here cares for Martinez’s and HLN’s lies. We willmot let them win and show the world how graceless they truely are. They’re politan our air and the world with their lies. All of these people should be removed from tv and forced to scrub flores in the mimi hall. Beth Karas about people more than nancy disgrace does, thats certain. Chris hughes couldnt see the truth for the open sky and too much sherry and nurmi mind about jane valez mitchell, she cant see it either. Well im tired so im gonna janeen back in my chair, have a Casarez salad, and some sherry (ewww). See ya all tomorrow mormon. Laviolette u all very much! 🙂

    • I dont know if this is true,but the person who started this petition(Jay Bass)is the admin in the ”Jodi arias’s acquittal page,friends and family” and says Jodi herself asked him to start it.

      • I’m not sure whether it’s true or not, but I know Jay Bass is an asshole. Why? Because a few months back, he started the rumors that the I was (somehow) pocketing the donations coming in for Jodi.

        SJ
        Team Jodi

        • Sorry to hear that SJ,I had no idea. I didnt mean to offend you 🙁 I just saw the petition and thought to post the link here.

        • Wish I knew that before. I joined the site a week or so ago. I’ll be removing it now. I also would not fill out the petition because of the info they wanted.

        • A definite asshole, SJ.. it takes one vile person to start a malicious rumour and suddenly all the haters believe it, an asshole indeed.

      • so would that mean the facebook page is a false front too?

        I only go to the FB page that SJ has on the links page here.

        BE CAREFUL PEOPLE!!

        • Hi BeeCee, No. I don’t think that FB page is a false front in that sense. I was just commenting on my experience with the Admin there, that’s all.

          SJ
          Team Jodi

    • I have hesitated until today to post what I am thinking regarding all the petitions.

      Everyone needs to be careful because the person who has the petition will then have your real name and address. It would not surprise me at all if a hater were to create a petition in order to get our information.

      The ONLY petition I have signed is the one put out by our very own Sandra AKA Maggie, AKA Inconvenient Truth. Which I do not have access to the link at the moment.

      I personally will not be signing any more petitions because they really don’t do much anyway.

      • I also signed Maggie’s petition. Because I had one ipad ruined, have had viruses sent to me, and have seen people from this page threatened I hesitate to give my personal information out.

        • I have not had any virus problems, but I hardly ever click on anything that gets sent to me. I knew “Maggie’s” petition was safe because I know her offsite.

          Fake Facebook emails are a really bad one, I also don’t click on anything sent to my email allegedly from facebook.

        • Jaz, I am waiting until trial is over before I sign any petition, but have bookmarked them. I am worried about giving my info out as well, so want to make sure they are legit before I do!

      • Good Morning!! 🙂

        I live up in the middle of nowhere in Canada. And I mean nowhere…little itty bitty town with a population of a whopping 900 maybe!! If anyone who got my information from petitions I signed wants to venture up here over my supporting Jodi, bring it on.

        Hope they don’t mind the occasional bear and the giant size mosquitos we have up here! lol

        These keyboard warriors need to find a hobby, they are so brace when sitting behind a monitor aren’t they?

      • BeeCee –
        I totally agree and the only petition I signed was from Inconvenient Truth. Can’t be too careful at this point with the haters really revving up even more.

      • Oh.. your home address or just your email? I have signed loads of petitions.. oh dear 🙁

  38. Good Monring Everyone ! 🙂

    As the deliberation continue on today, let’s keep the focus on Jodi, her family and the defense team. We don’t need to mention the mob HLN, as JODI needs poistive energy to get through another day ….. praying for her life to be spared.

    A court room reporter out of AZ posted last night that the deliberations don’t start until 10 am today, and end at 4:30 today if there isn’t a verdict. For all of those who want to know where to get the lastest information you can go to azcentral or abc15 which are both out of AZ.

    I pray when Jodi walks FREE that she steers clear of Donovan who I believe is drumming up all the drama on the net about the ” twitter” account ” blog” and anything else that is being spread. This chick is vicious and on a one way mission to destory another person for her own benefit. Until you hear it from her attorney’s or family don’t believe it…………..

    Peace be with you today Jodi, the end is nearing for your FREEDOM.

    I am going with manslaugter, M2 or hung jury. I don’t see aquittal as she confused to the killing.

    • I really wish that Donovan would stop tweeting, as well. She is providing fuel for the haters.

      If I were Jodi’s attorneys, I would tell that woman to stop her actions. And, if Jodi is giving her the fuel for the fire, I think I would do everything in my power to not let her talk to that woman.

      • Same here.I have mixed feelings regarding this whole tweeting thing.

      • Totally agree with you, Nicole. That woman is causing a scene where none should be.

        • Ashley…………………. I miss you!! (((((((((((((♥)))))))))))))))

    • Acquittal is for self-defense.. That is what she has claimed in this trial.

    • Morning FUJ! I don’t have a cell phone ( I know, my hubby and I get a lot of flack for that, old hippies an all) so they only way I know of to get an alert of a verdict in, is to have HLN on mute and look for banner on bottom, or check on here! I never really cared about having a cell phone (don’t need the x-tra bill), but this is really hard on verdict watch not to have one!!!

  39. I think the jury is going to come back with a verdict today.

    If it isn’t right away after they start this morning, then it will be about 2 p.m.

    Frankly, I think they have known what they were going to do yesterday. But, I am certain these people are living in fear from haters.

    Further, I think they wanted to give the appearance of deliberating for “long enough” so they aren’t questioned in their decision.

    Frankly, I can’t believe they all sat in court for 4 months, listened to all the evidence, had their questions answered, etc., and didn’t know what they were thinking.

    IMHO, there are only two scenarios for a verdict that apply here: Manslaughter or acquittal.

    Honestly, I don’t think they are going to acquit her. I think she is going to get Manslaughter.

    And, when it comes to sentencing, I think the judge is going to sentence her to 15 years. She may give her the max due to pressure from the outside world.

    These are just my opinions – feel free to comment on what you think.

    • It is possible that you are correct Nicole.

      It’s just really hard to predict what is going on in their minds and if they have already come to a verdict agreement.

      I mean look at all of us here who can see that they have no premed case, and yet there are also people who do think the information the persecution has is true evidence.

      • But BeeCee, the biggest difference between us and the jury is we have been discussing the case all along. The jury members have not been able to do that, nor if they are following instructions, they haven’t been able to look anything up. So it might seem to us, it’s taking them a long time, we have to remember they haven’t had the advantages that we have had. I’m glad they haven’t come back yet, it shows consideration for both sides.

        • exactly. That’s why I said “possible”.

          It doesn’t worry me if it takes them longer, it doesn’t worry me if it doesn’t.

          It just is.

          🙂

    • Hard to predict what a jury might do. Especially a non sequestered one. I just hope that none of them have been expossed to main stream medias opinions of this case.

    • How would they know where to find the jurors? The haters, I mean?

      Also, what about the Casey Anthony case, she was aquitted, I think she had many haters too. I never followed the case, its just what I have read.
      This is the first and the last case I am going to follow, its far too stressful.

    • idk, Nicole, I think the jury asked a lot of questions during this trial and some were mixed..I would hope that they are going over the evidence, and especially the GLARING change in testimony of Flores and Horn…I think they are divided..just a thought. Thank God a verdict wasn’t reached yesterday as I’m sure all of HLN was expecting!!

  41. Deliberations day 3… They say the longer, the better, so I say let them deliberate for 3 months! I’m personally very amused just listening to how many octaves Nancy Grace’s voice goes up every additional day of deliberations with no verdict… LOL! Praying, praying, praying….

    • Nice to “see” you Ashley!

      I don’t mind a longer deliberation either…

      A quick one means, who knows, could be either way, but I can’t imagine them all seeing it the same way. Look at how we feel watching the same trial the haters have watched. There are probably at least one or two 2-brain-celled people on the jury.

      I mean, one of them was stupid enough to not realize Jodi was hypothesizing regarding the gas cans…AFTER kermit asked her to. Hopefully that one was the first juror that got dismissed.

    • Definetly Ash!!!!! The longer this goes (even tho it’s hard for us) the more NG is freaking out!!! Feel sorry for the Twins if Jodi is aquitted!!! Hope Mommie doesn’t have any wooden spoons handy! ;p

  42. Hey Y’all! I have been lurking here for the last 3 months. I got so sick of the hater sites and their nasty comments and attitudes. I actually found this site when one of the aholes commented and said this site existed. It’s really nice read comments that have been thought out and that are intelligent 🙂

  43. Amazing how people are changing their tune…….. this is str8 from ABC15 out of AZ

    PHOENIX – If Jodi Arias is acquitted of murdering Travis Alexander, she can expect a seven-figure offer for either a book and/or movie deal, according to attorney David Cook.

    Cook, on behalf of the victims’ families, successfully sued O.J. Simpson for millions of dollars following the football star’s not guilty verdict of two murder charges.

    “[Arias] can even expect a deal for, are you ready for this, a clothing line,” said Cook via telephone from his California office. “There are people who are lined up with packages at this moment.”

    Although he is not involved in the Arias case in anyway, Cook told ABC15 he would not be surprised if the family of Travis Alexander, the victim, has not already prepared a civil lawsuit against Arias.

    Cook believes a civil lawsuit, if victorious, could prevent Arias from profiting from the crimes if she’s found not guilty during the criminal trial.

    “Justice is money and money is justice,” said Cook.

    Cook said he does not expect the jurors to come to a unanimous decision and thus, he is predicting a hung jury.

    Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Jodi-Arias-trial-verdict-What-if-shes-found-not-guilty#ixzz2SbuEL5Ed

    • Wow. I agree about the hung jury (or Manslaughter) and with all the Taliban members, Jodi would need all the money she could get just to hide and protect herself from those nutjobs.

      • She would never be allowed to make money ever again because the parasitical Alexander family will likely sue her in civil court.

        This is by no means over with.

        • Yep. Not that I think Jodi would be interested in a clothing line or any of that crap anyway. The haters all predicted that Casey would be all over the media when she was acquitted, trying to make money – didn’t happen.

    • Just remember Cook probably knows NOTHING about the case.
      Nor do any of the other “celebrities” they wheel out.
      Well if he does know anything, maybe it’s because he read my wiki 🙂

    • Hate to say it but the porn companies will go after her too. No I dont expect Jodi to do it nor do I want her too.

  44. Good morning all! I was feeling such despair last night but much better today. We all help each other so much don’t we? AA, your words to SJ sum up the gratitude we all feel to him. Thanks SJ! Every morning when I go to this site your mantra cheers me up and and gives me confidence in what WILL happen:

    We are Team Jodi. We will be victorious.
    Never question it.
    Never doubt it.

    😀

  45. HLN are replaying The Goblin Prosecutor’s closing, AGAIN, to comfort themselves. Whatever.

  47. This post is going to make tonysam very happy.

    I got to thinking about this case on a level removed from the nitty gritty of the evidence, but on a more philosophical/civic level.

    The State, and by extension the prosecutor is supposed to be the people’s representative to see that justice is done in situations where a there is an allegation of unlawful conduct by a member of the people. Their job is not to win convictions or any other court victories. Similarly it is the police’s responsibility to enforce the law, and where necessary, to provide assistance to the prosecutor in their task of achieving justice.

    A prosecutor should take the evidence, as it exists, present it in an honest manner, and charge a person based on the evidence and the facts as presentable in a court of law. A prosecutor should not tailor the testimony of the state’s witnesses in order to achieve what he perceives as being a victory. In fact a prosecutor should not stand for any misrepresentation by either his, or for that matter, the defenses witnesses. The prosecutor should also not shop around for witnesses who will be willing to testify in a manner that suits the prosecutor’s version of the case. In fact, if after a reasonable amount of due diligence the prosecutor finds that the preponderance of expert opinion does not support his theory of the case, then the prosecutor should not further his theory.

    Now, given any responsibility, there needs to be a mechanism that assures that the person tasked with that responsibility does in fact fulfill it, in the manner intended. The courts are not always the answer, because not all misconduct is criminal, and in fact certain jobs and tasks enjoy a degree of immunity. There needs to be a method to control a prosecutor who distorts, or causes, or accepts the distortion of witness testimony. Of course at the first step we have his immediate supervisor, who is supposed to protect against this happening, but there is an obvious conflict of interest there. You have the courts, who are supposed to guard against this, but the courts themselves are bound by constraints of what they can or cannot do.

    The greatest check on this sort of prosecutorial misconduct is the jury, which when faced with such a situation can and should reject the prosecutions case.

    In this particular case, the State v. Jodi Arias we have substantial evidence of a prosecutor flying outside the bounds of justice. Putting aside, for the moment, his behavior in court, we have at the very least the following acts that show him clearly perverting justice:

    1. The whole Flores/Horn issue with respect to the sequence of the gun shot. Someone is lying. We know it, they know it, JM knows it, the judge knows it and the jury knows it. JM should have never elicited that testimony. But he did it 4 times.

    2. Horn’s testimony about the typographical error vis a vis the dura mater was a lie. JM may have not prompted him to say it. Once Horn said it, he lied under oath. Again, everyone knows it. However, it is incumbent on the prosecutor as the representative of the people in the cause of justice to call him out on it. Other DA’s have done so with their own witnesses. Gil Garcetti charged, and convicted, Mark Fuhrman of perjury before the OJ trial was over. And he had a sequestered jury, so he wasn’t even posing for the jury.

    3. The only possible reason that JM had for using DeMarte was that he needed a particular opinion from a psychologist. Given the nature of the tests conducted, the chances were that he was going to get the same opinion as Samuels from any psychologist. The tests conducted by DeMarte were probably done as a part of her job at Bayless, where she was probably just the person administering the test. He probably couldn’t get the opinion he wanted from any of the other staff, and so went with her. And she probably did it to get into the lucrative field (by comparison to her other work) of being an expert witness. Again, we know this, the jury knows this and in my opinion, JM is liable for gross misconduct in eliciting testimony, which though just an opinion, is grossly outside the bounds of “expert” testimony.

    JM’s conduct is a blatant miscarriage of his job as the “justice” advocate for the state. Given that situation, the jury should just reject his pleadings in their entirety. It is the only recourse the public has in a situation where a prosecutor starts playing fast and loose with his responsibility.

    • Al, I am in awe. Your post conveys what I’ve been thinking but unable to express with such clarity. Yes, the prosecutor represents the People and as such should be on a mission to seek the truth, the whole truth. If this truth supports the innocence of the defendant he should welcome it. Witnesses take an oath to tell the whole truth. Shutting them up with yes or n – this is not justice! Al, I always look forward to your thoughtful, well written posts. Thank you.

    • That post makes me happy right along withTonysam!!! You hit the nail right on the head. The only fair option for the Jury is an outright acquital.

    • It really needs to be what amounts to jury nullification despite there not being much in the way of evidence (unlike O.J. Simpson’s which WAS jury nullification despite a mountain of evidence as to his guilt).

      Now people here are looking at what the jury is likely to do, and yes, manslaughter seems to be the most likely verdict because it gives the jury an “out” by having Jodi be punished for “something.” But that isn’t what the jury should be doing.

      A verdict should be strictly on evidence and burden of proof. When you have a prosecution willing to cut corners and do anything to get a guilty verdict despite the evidence, you as a juror have no choice but to acquit.

      I think there has to be a lot of fear among the jury members if they let Jodi “off” of anything other than M1.

      • The jury needs to send a message to Maricopa County officials that tampering with witnesses is NOT acceptable.

    • The jury is not doing its job if it doesn’t hold Martinez accountable for his misconduct.

    • It would take an act of moral courage to acquit; I am not sure this jury has the guts to do the right thing.

  48. Here is why I don’t think they will come back with M1.

    If the state had proven beyond a reasonable doubt for that charge, the jury would be back already. The evidence was NOT overwhelming. There were too many holes in the case.

    So, that leaves deliberations about M2 or manslaughter.

    I TRULY think they are going to come back today. Why else would the jury suddenly change their start time to 10 a.m. on the 3rd day of deliberations?

    Some have speculated that it’s because they are going to “get themselves shined up” to give interviews afterwards.

    Frankly, if the jury comes back with anything outside of M1, I wouldn’t give ANY interviews for fear of the Travis Taliban!!

    • The jury may have changed their start time just to avoid rush hour. I don’t know how it is in the Phoenix area, but around here (DC suburbs) we schedule anything that we can to start after 9 and end before 4. Else you have to put up with rush hour traffic, which is a bitch.

      • That is possible, Al. However, the rush hour tapers off quite a bit here after 8 am.

        But, interestingly, they set their own schedule to go from 9 to 4:30 (or whatever it was).

        So, why the sudden change now?

        • Maybe a juror had to go to the doctor’s, or parent teacher conference, or get his oil changed, or pick up his dry cleaning, or wanted to sleep in, or who knows what.

          I just wouldn’t read too much into it.

        • someone said on the other page post that the judge said last Friday that the jurors would report at 10 am on Tuesday because of an appointment…

          It seems like I remember her saying that…but not sure…she said so much…

          • Not last Friday – that day a couple of weeks ago when the judge was discussing the calendar going forward with the jurors, wanting to be informed of conflicts, etc. The post I saw said it was THEN that the delayed start on May 7 was mentioned.

      • Apparently one of the jurors had an appointment, that’s why the start time is an hour later. But who knows…

        • That’s what I read too. Although the haters are convinced that they’re starting late so that they can sweep in with a grand M1 announcement.

          • And they wouldn’t be able to do that at 9am??? I swear they have no COMMON sense!!

  49. Morning, family! 🙂

    I think maybe this jury came to an agreement towards the end of the day,and agreed to sleep on it before the final vote. We will know by what they are wearing when they show up today. The fact that they returned early from lunch and got right back to work, and yet they are coming in late today, at 10 makes me think this way.

    I will light my Saint Jude candle, and pray for the best.

    ♥

    • I agree Renee. I think today is the day.

      Plus, if I were on that jury, I would want this case to end SO badly.

    • Renee..goofing morning mam..just my opinion..I
      Think they have a lot of evidence and testimony
      To go over…do you think that it would be good for them
      To return a verdict today..just seeing what your thoughts
      Are.

      • I would prefer that they take their time and go over everything. But they have had 5 months and haven’t been able to talk about it. For all we know, they entered that deliberation room and were all on the same page.

        But I suspect not. I would image it would look more like real life, ie the Huffington poll, 65% M1, 25 lesser, 12 innocent. If that is the case, then I pray that who ever is holding out, continues to hold out.

        That being said, if they are following the admonition, it should look more like 12% M1, 25% lessor, and 65% manslaughter/or not guilty.

  50. I just though of another couple of reasons why Kirk didn’t ask for not guilty on manslaughter.

    Firstly he may not have had time.

    Secondly the jury are competent to make the judgement – there is no proof, beyond reasonable doubt, that Jodi did anything except defend herself. The cut throat may suggest otherwise, but not beyond reasonable doubt.

    But finally, it means Martinez had no opportunity to rebut whatever Kirk may have argued.

    Let’s put our trust in the jury. They have shown themselves to be smart, intelligent, capable.

  51. Somewhere I read that the statue of limitations has run out for a civil suit by the Alexanders against Jodi, would our legal eagles like to comment on this. This has left me wondering if they really can do this now. And I also read you don’t have to wait for the criminal trial, before starting one.

    • A. Notwithstanding sections 12-505 and 12-542, if a defendant is charged by a criminal complaint or indictment the statute of limitations for any civil cause of action that is brought by a victim against the defendant for criminal conduct against the victim is extended for one year from the final disposition of the criminal proceedings, regardless of whether the defendant is convicted of criminal conduct against the victim.

      • Personal Injury, Medical Malpractice, Wrongful Death:

        The limitations period for injury to person, injury when death ensues, or medical malpractice, for claims against the tortfeasor, is that the lawsuit “shall be commenced and prosecuted within two years after the cause of action accrues.” Generally, for injury to person, the cause of action “accrues” on the date of accident, when one is injured. The statute states that an injury when death ensues “accrues” on the date of death. ARS 12-542.

  52. Good morning folks! Again thank you SJ for allowing
    Me to post and for information. I’m glad to be here.

    However, I’m having to use my phone instead of laptop
    Cause my Internet is down.

    My day started off awkward I thought my vision was
    Getting worse. Come to find out my 13 year old had my glasses
    On and I had his on! I guess he had laid his glasses by mine last
    Night on the bathroom sink. What a mix up. Took us both a hour
    To figure everything out.

    Once again glad to see people here not only supporting
    Jodi but supporting justice as well.

  53. I do think we may be reading too much into the timings. Honestly, they went through over 6 hours of deliberations. The reason why they came back early from lunch may be because the jurors never needed 1 hour 30 minutes for lunch, but the court just always took that much time. Now that they can set their own schedule, they can change that. The jurors may be exhausted and just want to start a little later than usual. Perhaps someone has something to do early in the morning, and they want to make sure they get to court on time! 🙂 They could be done, but I do think we are reading too much into the timings 😛

    I will say it is only natural we are reading into things especially at this stage in the trial! But “Que sara, sara”

    • NK, a few of us have posted above, that the delay in deliberation start time could be something as simple as someone had an appointment.. I agree we can’t read too much into that!

  54. The state wants you to believe in zombies, by stating that jodi killed him 3 times ?
    now i`m no doctor , but i thought you can only kill a person ONCE?

    maybe the CDC with all their zombie Apocalypse story’s of zombie killing virus is upon as after all

    lol

    Roll on the next episode of THE WALKING DEAD 🙂

    • I meant would their political bent affect their thought process? Just trying to think of some reason why so many people in AZ hate Jodi, and, of course, in other States.

            • I don’t know about political affiliations in general, since it seems like we have both conservatives and liberals who post here. But in terms of those who are staunchly behind the death penalty, they are likely far-right in their views.

              • I can say for certain that if Barry Goldwater was alive he would be absolutely FURIOUS for the way this trial has been conducted! He was a strict contructionist who did not believe in any nonsense.

        • Yes, I don’t know what political motivation there w/b…but defiantly social…a saturation of hate from HLN and distortion of facts to whip people up in a frenzy…

          • Well HLN is owned and run by CNN which by no means is a conservative network.lol

      • People in AZ dislike Jodi because of what this trial has cost the tax payers. Most the people sparing off at the mouth are those that have not even watched the trial they are just media follwers who think they know everything when in fact they are uneducated couch potatoes.

        Surfing through some tweets last night with my 20 year old daughter I was applauded and outraged at the girls her age want to see Jodi get the DP….. this is there mindset, lack of respect, knowledge, education, DV, and tells me that something like this might of happened in their family is the reason for all the hate.

        As on a political agrenda, politics and religion always come into play in cases like this…….. someoe got to point the finger at someone else.

        Pray for FREEDOM today for JODI

        • Yes, FUJ, I agree with you, it does come into play–gets passed down from the generations.. Something about all the cost.. hmm.. don’t like to bring politics into this, but, hmmmm

          • ABSOLUTELY NOT! Nor should he have the right being that this is a state case and not a federal case! Jodi can appeal all the way to the US Supreme Court though if its M1.

            • No, not Obama…I think he can only pardon federal offenders. Like Tony said, Jodi’s appeals would reach the U.S. Supreme Court at the highest level.

              • I strongly support seperation of powers and I don’t believe the Executive branch of government should have any more powers than it has already. I STILL cannot believe what FDR did to Japanese Americans during WW2! WITHOUT CONSENT of Congress to boot!!!:-(

        • Let’s see…..he is coming at me to kill me…..he is twice my size…. he has hit and choked me before… he has threatened me….. I am in fear for my life….. PAUSE AND THINK JODI!!!!! People will say I am a whore…..I will be costing the taxpayers WAAAYYY to much money……no one will believe me…… I will have no life left after the media circus……OK back to the siutuation at hand……Oh well shit, I am dead now but thankfully I stopped to think about the real consequences and the taxpayers are all happy with me. WTF? WAKE UP ARIZONA!!!!

    • Heather….I hadn’t thought about politics-haters….

      But I have given it a serious thought about Travis’ death being politically covered up by the mormon church who is a powerful church all around the world and is involved in politics and all branches of the government…

      I really don’t like to talk politics…politics gives me headaches…LOL…but you can research on google and find many articles talking about that statement above…

      • and I forgot to say that if a lot of the haters are mormons…then that would further explain the hatred…read on google how their inner circles work when they get members all around the world to help their causes…

        • Ah, I will.. don’t know much at all really about the Mormons, just that they’re a cult, same as the JW’s, no time for either and if either knock at my door, I tell them I’m not interested and close it! 🙂

      • Hmm I will, don’t want to give you all a headache! lol

        Yes, the Mormon church has a lot to do with it, true.. but over £40,000 and counting.. who are.. mormon?.. don’t quite see it..

  57. Good morning my brothers and sisters. Late start this morning due to my other family.
    AA, Jen and anyone else who is struggling my prayers are with you..
    Jodi and famly you are in my thoughts and prayers.

    I agree with Al and others that the verdict will be. Manslaughter. Oh I
    do wish she could be aquitted but …

    Something is still missing in this story. and I pray that the truth. will be found. Who ever was there or hiding. evidence you will slip up someday and. that will be the day your. world will become a living hell

    • Morning cindy and everyone!

      I daren’t let my thoughts go .. thoughts travel…

      I am trying to put myself in the feeling place that she has an aquittal.

    • I agree with you and have felt that way for a long time that something is missing and I’m not talking about the fog. That bullet casing has me bugged because they say no blood was found on it, heck that was a pool of blood it was laying in, there would have been some blood on it regardless. and an imprint in the blood after it was removed. so did the people who found him kick it or contaminate the crime scene?

      • Taylor, I can’t find it at the moment, maybe geebee2 can post a link to the higher quality shell casing image.

        Once you see how the blood appears to have come from the side of the casing and pooled under the casing then you will see how the bullet came first.

        They purposely showed a poor quality image during the trial, they should have shown the better one.

          • Wow BeeCee that’s the chip in the tile GeeBee mentioned before too. He said he thought it was from the knife missing and chipping the tile, which is possible, but It takes me back to when we discussed maybe Jodi Didn’t shoot TA, she missed, when she shot. We wondered if there was a hole some where. Could that be it? I know its random, but I STILL remain convinced Jodi is completely innocent!

            • “but I STILL remain convinced Jodi is completely innocent”

              I hear ya and I’m right there with ya!!!

          • That casing either got kicked into fresh blood that slowed it down or was kicked into congealing blood that made it stop. A bullet would not hit a tile floor and stick where it landed. Have these people just got zero common sense. The pool of blood to the bottom of the pic at the edge of the casing seems to be disturbed like the bullet rolled or bounced into it.

            • tnlucy,

              to me it appears as if the casing was already on the floor and the blood was dripped to the top right of it, perhaps even right on the grout line. The blood then spread out and started to seep under the casing because the case has interfered with the normal outline.

              If one places an object on the ground and then pours something the consistency of blood next to the object I predict it would look similar.

              It’s too bad they didn’t have money for a better blood spatter person.

              • I can also see that happening. Either way I will agree that the casing not having blood on the top surface does not mean anything at all. It still simply baffles me that there was not more time spent on the forensics in this case. I suppose it is because Jodi confessed to the killing and they were not looking any futher really. Shoddy shoddy work on all fronts IMO.

  58. The Networks are all profiting big bucks on Jodia Arias trial….

    Scot Safon, executive vice president and general manager of HLN said that Jodi and Travis were interesting young people, in love theoretically, and it went bad…

    The Turner Broadcasting-owned HLN launched a new show called “HLN After Dark” devoted primarily to Jodi Arias Trial.

    Nancy Grace…main personality covered nothing but Jodi Arias…

    HLN has set up a mock stage and it seats mock jurors…

    Lifetime Movie Network has a movie in the making…

    Major networks like ABC and “Good Morning America” scored a major ratings during the trial by obtaining Arias’ diaries…

    https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130506/news/705069902/

    • It’s very sad isn’t it truthseeker. They are making money off of this – and want to see this poor girl put to death. Why? More ratings? This whole thing is sick. If Jodi killed TA she did it in self defense. The media chooses to ignore the evidence of TA’s abuse and use of Jodi – and others. They would rather make him a saint and her the devil. I wonder, if they had a daughter/niece/or other young female relative who went through this – would they demonize them. Or would they say if she hadn’t have done this she would be dead? My heart goes out to Jodi and her family.

  59. praying, praying, praying!!

    Love every single one of you and of course, SJ and JC and MB and all the people behind the scenes who keep this site safe!

    AA, praying for you, my friend! Don’t let the people at work get you down! Love you! <3

    I have to get some work done today, but I'll check back in later today.

    Keep the faith! Don't let anyone bring you down. We need positive vibes.

    (((HUGS)))

    • ((((((((((HUGS)))))))))) backatcha Sil. I’m with you – praying, praying, praying.

    • Yes, I’m feeling very optimistic, Tony! I may be obtuse, but I refuse to let anything get in the way of what I want. And I want Jodi to be free! lol

      Thank you, cindy! Much love to you! <3

      • I am wondering, has anyone considered the way Juan cross examined Jodi was in a verbally abusive manner? I am hoping the jury saw it the same way and it weighs heavily on their decision! I was up early with Jodi on my mind. Prays and optimism going out for her.

        • Derborah,

          I’m hoping the jury feels just that! Abused and offended by the way he treated, not only Jodi, but all the witnesses.

  60. Hi Anna Ryan, this is from yesterday. Like minds. Buk is my absolute favorite! He’s the man!!!

  61. Al, re your posting. I fully agree re the points you made about the ME and police offier. It is blatantly clear that someone is not telling the truth. Also, the ME report was read over and over before trial and the “typo” made it to trial. Thanks to Jennifer, Dr. G. and the jury, the matter was exposed. I really agree with the last line of your comment. The only way to stop dishonest prosecutions is to call them on the deceit by giving not guilty verdicts. So we shall see. Re prediction on a verdict? Later today . I think Mr. Martinez may be out of luck with murder one , I hope so anyway, The defendent has already done 5 years and I am sure she is not the same person she was 5 years ago. I have thought about how I would react if it was my son that was killed. I feel pretty confident that I would not want to see someone locked up for life nor put to death. I am a believer in Grace and forgiveness. Being a Canadian, I have already admonished the death penalty in my mind. I really believe the death penalty was only created for sake of vengence. So that’s my blurb for today. Have a great day everyone.

  62. I read some speculation that the Alexander family is already in preparation of a civil suite is Jodi is aquitted. It’s almost as if they want her to walk so they can have themselves a nice cash cow.

  63. hafa adai Fam?????

    This morning’s sentiments: dia duit

    (Jeff, your post this morning was AWESOME. You are a remarkable man. My heartfelt gratitude to you for being a part of our crusade.)

    It seems to me today is a sappy day to convey emotions and sentiments that more often than not get pushed by the wayside because life tends to get in the way. I do not want to be derelict in my duties as a participant in this extraordinary venue we have here. I have said it many times before and risking becoming a pest and redundant and repetitive fool, I feel I must repeat it once again. SJ, MB, JC – everyone behind the scenes, God has such a special place for you. Thankfully he has bestowed the blessing of all of you on all of us.

    To all my family here…I am severely handicapped due to my humanism, but I hope these words will get my point across as inadequate as they are…

    I am humbled by the greatness, sincerity, genuineness, compassion, honesty, loyalty, selflessness, caring, giving individuals that make up our family network. I bow down to each and every one of you. Your collective generous hearts are more welcoming than some “blood” family. I am without words to express how truly touched I am by the awesomeness of each of you.

    For what it’s worth, Jodi, this site and every single one of you have my undying loyalty and gratitude as well as my eternal love.

    • I feel the same, Harmony! When Judge Pickles began reading instructions I started bawling. Unfortunately, I was locked out of this site at the time. I felt so alone and distraught. I feel like she is my sister, or even ME back when I was in my 20s, and no one knew or give a shit about my abuse.

      I am so scared of this damn verdict.

  65. Ms. Jodi,
    I’m praying for you. I told my daughter about you. She said she will do a little prayer for you too.

    I read on a earlier comment. That someone else could have been there during the fighting between Jodi and Travis? Cause, I really believe someone else was there. I could be wrong. I don’t think so.

  67. Goodmorning everyone .. thank for you all being here for Jodi and each other! Colllectively WE CAN make a difference!

    If things were just, Jodi would be free right now! Whatever the outcome of this kangaroo court, we will be here for Jodi and each other.. love you all..xoxoxo

  68. I have talked before on here about how imposing the death penalty is really punishment for the family left behind. I cannot understand, try as I may, why the system calls for this as justice. And, if the Alexander family is truly hurting over the loss of their brother, how do they justify their desires and wishes to inflict that same pain on the family of Jodi Arias?

    • I’ve mentioned here before that my Step-son’s Mother was murdered..Perp pled to avoid DP..My Step-son’s wanted Death…I would of preferred Life in Misery, which is what the perp is currently serving…What baffles me is the Alexanders have taken it many steps further….campaign of hate..destroying defense witnesses lives and careers, donations of $$$$$…at least my Step-son’s were in regular contact with their Mother….these people hadn’t been involved in TA’s life for years!!!

  69. Az is ridiculous. I have a brother in Az prison for felony murder. He was on drugs. He and his gf at the time planned to rob some drug dealers for their drugs. They had a gun. These drug dealers lived with their elderly father. But upon arrival they chickened out about the robbery and decided they were going to trade the gun for drugs. So they entered through the open garage door and the elderly father was there watching them walk up. Whe he noticed my brother had a gun he freaked out and grabbed it. Pulling it by the barrel towards himself. The gun fired and killed him. The drug dealers were not home. A younger mentally disabled son was there and my bro tied him up and set him in the bathroom so they could get away. Very sad. Yes my bro was wrong but he did not mean to kill. The state tampered with evidence….lied so much…But my bro was convicted of conspiracy to armed robbery felony murder and kidnapping. Jurors fell asleep during trial………a mess. He has to serve his sentences consecutively 25 to life for murder 15 for kidnapping and 7 for armed robbery….hate this state…..

    • I’ve heard that juries tend to believe the prosecution, police and medical examiner. I don’t personally subscribe to that because of cases like your brothers and Jodi’s case. I know another criminal case where friends were overcharged and practically forced to plead to excessive charges out of fear and lack of funds to defend themselves.

      I don’t believe this is unique to AZ though. But they are bad and may be a result of an oppressive culture set by goons like Sheriff Arpaio.

      • The conventional wisdom on this is that juries go with the premise that if the person had not done something wrong the state would not have charged them. Of course this flies in the face of all the wrongful convictions, cases of misconduct whether by the DA or the police, and everything else.

        Don’t know if this is actually true or an urban myth. It seems like most overly publicized trials end up going against the prosecution, so who knows.

      • Well if that’s true Jeff then the credibility of the cops and the pros and ME then this should be a no-brainer for them, since they lied on the stand!!!

  70. I dusted off my tarot cards and the outcome card I drew for the jury is the seven of cups reversed:

    “Cut through the fluff and get to the heart of the matter” is the message for the jury!!! JMs fluff and BS is exposed.. the TRUTH that Jodi is a victim is revealed..

      • Oh I ment for the day I know they did 7 hours yesterday but wasn’t sure if they were starting at 9 or 10 am today. GMA said 10 but I read 9 somewhere else and I live in Iowa so I am not in the same time zone.

      • Sorry Jeff, I thought you were being facetious…you know…like they are taking a few days off because that is how they have been doing things all along.
        I see now that you were referring to the actual start date of deliberations… 😳

    • They’ll start late today, Jennifer. At 10 A.M. Arizona time, 1:00 P.M. eastern time.

  75. As to SJ’s question at the top of the page:
    HOPE it’s acquittal…but doubt it
    THINK it MAY be manslaughter
    DON”T want a hung jury
    WILL BE CONFUSED , ANGRY and SURPRISED if it is M1

  76. MY VERDICT
    not guilty of all charges; self defense

    the closings
    i listened to a little of kn, nothing of jm, and almost nothing of stephens
    so i could clearly be mistaken

    i’d heard some of stephens first go at expounding the law, and in the incomprehensible speed reading of the relevant law, in which it appeared she’d mangled self defense, and later she tangled or conflated self defense up with the crime of passion
    they are separate

    SELF DEFENSE:

    http://www.azleg.gov/arizonarevisedstatutes.asp?title=13

    13-404 and 13-405

    it appeared that stephens misused the word “reasonable” to cover jodi’s response to ta’s attack

    THAT IS NOT THE LAW AS SHE IS WRIT

    the law 13-405 talks ONLY OF REASONABLENESS AS TO THE INITIATION OF ONE DEFENDING ONESELF

    the law does not state any careful calm calibration of jodi’s response while she is repelling a potentially deadly attack
    adrenaline is pumping through her veins
    neither she nor anyone else can see into the future, nor are they expected to be able to
    she will likely be killed by this larger male, who she loves, but is violent
    her death was imminent unless she acted then, immediately

    maybe this calibrated response rubbish is a judicial gloss
    if so it’s wrong, or misapplied to this case

    also, a fortiori, the arizona law unequivocally states there is no duty to retreat, which lend support to this argument

    a generalized attacker has created a huge area of uncertainty in the mind of the victim, especially if the attacker has a history of violence towards this victim

    so a “reasonable” victim doesn’t know the future, so can’t know whether she will be just bruised or killed

    thus, in good’s case, she had knowledge of the blood choke across her carotid artery, potentially fatal

    also, the victim of an attack, a “reasonable” victim of an attack, has no control over her adrenal gland
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_gland
    so to defend her life it is expected that she will not be calm, smelling the coffee, quietly and contemplating what the want to do that evening, looking out the window and wondering what the weather will be
    none of those considerations apply NOW
    it’s all on
    her life is in peril
    adrenaline is pumping through her veins, her heart is racing

    THERE IS NO DIRECT EVIDENCE OF THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS DURING THE INCIDENT
    NOR CIRCUMSTANTIAL
    from the state, it’s the rankest unsupported speculation that they postulate as what happened

    jodi defended herself, and if, as claimed, she did all the injuries to ta , so what ?

    she was in fear of her life
    the adrenaline was pumping through her system
    action was almost entirely automatic

    he attacks, she resists, and retaliates, he increases his attacks, and says he’s going to kill her; she uses a weapon; the incident continues; another weapon, until jodi is exhausted

    how many people have real life experience in killing a an attacker in such a situation
    you are untrained in combat
    your attacker is a larger, more violent, skilled in combat

    it seemed that the law as expounded by stephens was that jodi was required during this deadly attack to be “reasonable” in her response

    where in the statute does it say that in response to a potentially dead attack ?

    no where that i saw !

    she is not required,part way through defending herself, to call for a time out, so she can rationally and dispassionately consider if ta’s attack has been permanently blocked, or inhibited
    that is not the law in 13-404 and 13-405

    maybe it’s elsewhere ?

    with that in mind, if self defense is raised, and is a viable defense, the burden is then placed on the prosecution to disprove such beyond a reasonable doubt, which they haven’t done

    so self defense is proven and it is effective against ALL charges

    NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS

    • Hi Wes,
      SJ posted the charges yesterday. (Jury instructions). I read it but found it absolutely confusing. It was on the Monday Afternoon Comments page. Give it a look. Let us know what you think.

    • i’m going to severely scold the typist who typed my comment; it’s loaded with typos and ungrammatical constructions
      i’ll personally correct one of the more egregious problems with the comment myself

      “thus, in [ OMIT good’s, and replace with JODI’S ] case, she had knowledge of the blood choke across her carotid artery, potentially fatal”

      to the typist:
      “please be more careful when typing the comment , look it over for errors before posting it !”

    • there is another element to a comment i made above

      the proportionality of jodi’s response in using deadly force to defend herself

      hypothetically, a child accidently bumps against you in a store
      you can’t pull out your concealed carry gun and blow the child away
      that’s disproportionate

      but that’s not jodi’s case

      for her, deadly force became necessary
      look especially at ss 2 below

      http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/00405.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS

      13-405. Justification; use of deadly physical force

      A. A person is justified in threatening or using deadly physical force against another:

      1. If such person would be justified in threatening or using physical force against the other under section 13-404, and

      2. When and to the degree a reasonable person would believe that deadly physical force is immediately necessary to protect himself against the other’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly physical force.

      B. A person has no duty to retreat before threatening or using deadly physical force pursuant to this section if the person is in a place where the person may legally be and is not engaged in an unlawful act.

      ss 2 sets out when deadly force is justified

      not half deadly force

      to defend oneself one can’t fire half a bullet

      women don’t get a little bit pregnant

      this case is a petri dish for the entire us

      are men going to be continued to be allowed to kill the women in their lives ?

      there were no police at the door to restrain ta, or by extension any other men in comparable settings with other women

      things have changed

      it’s now no longer ok for men to kill their women

      and it’s no longer appropriate for the patriarchs to prosecute women for defending themselves by killing their violent male partners who crossed the line and commenced to kill them

      the battered women, and all women, are saying to the PATRIARCHS, ENOUGH !

      • I have figured out why the prosecution has no other attorneys. it’s because he has HLN news team full of failed former attorneys who are assisting him with their nightly shows. an idiot could see all the how HLN backs the prosecution and I do not intend to ever watch the network again once this case is over with Jodi.
        I am praying for God to send mighty Good Angels to assist Jodi. In Jesus Name.

  78. I know many here go to visit HLN and that liar Nancy Disgrace. I’m not one of them short of seeing a few clips here and there. Her so called analysis is riddled with lies.

    But I seem to have my own odd attraction to see the comments on the State haters page. When I do it makes me angry so why do I do it? I tell myself its to keep my friends close and my enemies closer.

    If anyone has any insight as to why they are so full of hate I’d be interested. Their comments are often rabid and odd. Praying for Jodi to die (because God likes to kill his children?). This case to me is a tragedy. Travis and Jodi went down a terrible and dangerous road. I’ll be sad regardless of the verdict, but I support Jodi because the premeditation evidence is laughable and she is a human being. She needs to be helped, not punished.

    • Jeff, I don’t know!!! I wish I did! I’ll just say that Nancy Disgrace considers herself a Methodist, and she is the furthest thing from Christian I’ve ever seen.

    • I agree Jeff.

      What is sad, is these folks are going to have to face their own behaviors and prayers when all their virtual friends have moved on to their next cause and they have to live with praying to their “God” for the death of a stranger, in the name of justice for another stranger.

      One of my favorite quotes:

      Work out your own salvation; With fear and trembling.

      They will face their own demons eventually. I suspect, after looking at some of their profiles, when THEY are defendants in their own cases, and suddenly, the Constitution of the United States will be valuable to them.

      😎

    • it is said, in the end times, “right will be wrong, and wrong will be right”….well, this shows the world is on the end of one kind of reality, and on the brink of a new one.

    • Jeff, Your guess is as good as mine as to why they are SO full of hate…It is absolutely frightening to know that people hate on people they don’t even know.

    • HATE

      what is the purpose of hate ?

      what function does it serve ?

      looked into it a little, because jodi is just their transient target
      it’s something that feeds their needs, it temporarily assauges their anxiety; the the individuals in the hate groups form transitory alliances

      some of the relevant interdisciplinary fields it seems are:
      psychology, sociology, politics, religion, anthropology, economics, primatology [ our relatives], evolutionary biology, etc

      ingroup cohesion; in particular, this trial has increased mormon fear, especially their cult paranoia exacerbated by their isolation
      they must fear the modern world encroaching on their bizarre theocratic structures

      also more widely, their group hate can be viewed in terms of projection

      http://rint.rechten.rug.nl/rth/dennen/ethnocen.htm

      Projection
      Perhaps no concept has been more consistently applied to group stereotypes by psychoanalytic observers than that of projection, that is, the attribution to others of unacceptable impulses within one’s self.
      Pseudospeciation may be understood – at least in part – as an expression of one group’s projection of its demonology and displacement of its self-generated aggression onto another. Undesirable characteristics will turn up attributed to an out-group (projection) which will then serve as a
      rationalization for violence against the out-group (aggression displacement) (Erikson, 1964).

      there’s a lot more at the above site, and elsewhere in the google search results

      search parameter >>>

      hate fear evolutionary purpose ingroup cohesion survival sociology biology

      eg
      economic anxiety; we’re in a global economic depresson greater than that of the 1930s

      individual survival vulnerability has increase leading people to reassert tribal instincts

    • I agree joe….all the speculation about them dressing up and body langueage and how quick the reach a veridict etc..Thats all it is is just speculation…noone knows what they are thinking…just my opinion.

  80. Good morning everyone! Just checking in for a bit.

    I had a bizarre dream of Jodi and the jury that they couldn’t decide. I believe it’s not guilty, but I have to be realistic and the fact that she said she did it makes me think it’s manslaughter. I’m pretty sure the jury has thought how in the world did she do this alone? Anyways hope everyone is doing well take care 😉

    To AA…I req to have SJ send you my email.

  81. I am hoping very much for an acquittal verdict or manslaughter with credit for time already served. I don’t believe murder 1 has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The slitting of the throat is gruesome but something that happens as overkill in a heat of passion or a life or death struggle. No one knows how far they will go to protect their own life until they are put in that situation. Overkill isn’t pretty but it is very real in this case. Hopefully the jury can look beyond that and reach a just verdict for Jodi.

    • Overkill is the prosecutions argument to fit their trumped up charges. But the evidence tells us that 1/3 of the wounds were to the back and were not fatal. They were not deep stab wounds and are indicative of him being on top of her or giving her a bear hug while she reached around to get him off of her. If she were behind him why are they so shallow? The other wounds look to me like she snapped. Hack hack get away from me. Probably more than self defense. Which is why I’m ok with manslaugher.

      Jury needs to consider the evidence, not Juan’s rants.

      • Yes, the point is that in fact Travis only had three stab wounds, if you adopt the proper definition of a stab wound, and all of those are to the front chest, consistent with her fighting him off. I think she was in the linen closet at this point, so couldn’t retreat.

        That was the whole point of my page

        http://jodi-arias.wikispaces.com/The+Big+Lie

        Then finally he gets her out of the linen closet, and is about to choke her when she cuts his throat ( one possibility ).

  82. Can anyone tell me how to get A text message When the verdict this then. I tried what people said yesterday Yesterday I need step by step up Sorry to be a burden Can I use sucks being old?

    • You are NOT old!!!! Stop it!!!

      Do you know how to send a text message? If not, I will send you an email if I can have your address….LOL

    • Cindy,

      Just open your text mesaging and where you would normally type the phone number of the person you were sending a text to-type the following numbers-33733. In the place you would normally type the message just type WAT. That will do it and you will get an alert when there is a verdict.

  84. Has anyone here ever located an actual police report on Ashley Reed’s death?

    Or know of any way to determine whether Sean Drenth was involved in any way in the reporting of, or any investigation into Ashley’s death?

  85. BLESSED are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. Matthew 5:9.

    • 1111 angels…don’t forget to thank the angels for helping us too…I have been in their care since I was a crawling baby…and I love them too…may God and the angels keep peace around Jodi throughout the rest of her days…amen…

  86. I wish one of us were on the jury. Or that all 12 thinks like us. That would be great.

  87. I’ll tell you, the lies of the medical examiner and the lead detective, Flores, would really bother me if I was on the jury. Maybe Maricopa County is just used to this kind of corruption, but I am NOT, and I would acquit based on those lies alone. Who knows what else they’re up to?

    • Exactly the point I was trying to make. The whole case should be thrown out on its face.

      I doubt the jury has the moral courage to do it, especially when it isn’t sequestered.

    • OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

      Sorry to use expletives but…..

      that is just unfuckingbelievable……There truly are demons living among us….it’s DISGUSTING

      • Almost as sick as those hater bastards wishing Steven gets the death of Jodi for his birthday today……..how festive.

      • Hey Janeen, I ‘ll use them for you ok? FUCK Juan Martinez and the rest of his shit-assed, piss-breathed, low-life, motherfucking, scum-bags! (hope this helps ease your mind 🙂 anything for the team :))

    • Good Day to All!

      Good news; I just clicked on that ebay link and it said the page was no longer available.

      I will be in and out again today as I work, but Keep the Faith everyone! And pray that the maricopa county judicial system and those involved are exposed for the liars, cheats and frauds that they are.

      • That’s good to hear cindyp! That was truly SICK! Oh, and I’d be just as disgusted if a similar thing had been done to the Alexanders, JM, or the judge!!!

        Shit like this just doesn’t fly with me!:-(

      • but this one is

        xxx

        Reported it again. If you type Jodi Arias in the search box,, many come up. Many disgusting ones that neeed to be reported.

  89. Hello everyone. My internet was out this morning so I have been going through withdrawals.

    • OMG Crystal are you OK? I feel you. Mine was acting up and I was headed straight towards a full blown panic attack 🙂

      • I was so afraid I was going to have to turn on HLN for updates. I just didn’t think I could handle that 🙂

      • I love your avatar of Cheney Mason…especially love his birddie

        He is still doing a good job in helping Casey…

        • I LOVE Cheney <3 He is the Dad Casey never had…………Fuckin George!!!

  90. Just to put the media in perspective, one person’s dead and another one’s in a fight for her life and here’s an insane headline from AZ Central your friendly neighborhood entertainment outlet

    “Jodi Arias murder trial: Best trial moments”

    Like it was a variety show.

    The editors of this particular rag ought to be ………..

    • someone posted last night that they website reporters were writing a book

  91. Something to smile about. I can’t say if this is legit, but the haters are BESIDE THEMSELVES about it, so I makes me ecstatic!! They are especially livid with us for our donations, LOL!!

    Jodi’s commissary list:

    Prepaid envelopes
    Writing pads
    Coloured pencils
    Pencils
    Roget’s Thesaurus
    Chapstick
    Butter lotion
    Mascara
    Hair conditioner
    Shampoo
    Hair bands
    Brownies
    Samoas cookies
    Water
    Cranberry juice
    Cupcakes
    Almond snickers
    Grapejuice
    Eyewear
    Cheez-its
    Milky Way

    Lol! The milky way bar and the mascara has them SEETHING!!! LOVE IT!!!

    • OMG~ LOL

      that is too funny. I know its just little things, but I hope Jodi enjoys them 🙂

      • My husband came home last night bearing gifts for me because it’s ‘that time of the month’ and he always does whatever he can to make sure, in case I get my panties in a wad, there is ice cream on hand to diffuse the situation. Last night’s ice cream was Samoa cookie ice cream. O..M..G!! Best Ice cream EVER.

    • Lets see, she has no real contact with her family, most jails prohibit newspapers, limited mail, she is told when to eat, sleep and pee. She never knows if it is night or day without looking at a clock. Fresh air is a thing of the past. If you are freezing to death it takes an act of Congress to receive and extra blanket. Medical care is non existent and mental health care is just out of the effing question. If anyone in her family is sick or god forbid they die…..well she is still in jail. She sleeps on a plastic mattress laid on a metal bunk, sits on metal benches, everywhere she goes she is in shackles. She has to be worried for her safety daily. She has basically no human rights at all. Oh but we are going to freak out over a candy bar?

      • That sucks! This is the life a criminal lives in jail. It’s hard to see Jodi as a criminal. SMH

        • I read where they were all pissed off over the Samoas – like God forbid that an inmate enjoy Girl Scout cookies.

      • SHE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY DID YOU FORGET THAT, NANCY GRACE AND HLN? YOU DICKHEADS

  92. I think jodi has a good chance for guilty of manslaughter. After listening to Martinez’s rebuttal to nurmis closing he doesn’t lay out facts. What’s ironic is he said your argument is just that an argument when facts are not on your side. Yet his case is empty and only based on argument. He wants the jury to read Jodi’s statement on a magazine and somehow he claims that she was lying about Travis’ pedophiia. This despite his own argument of you can’t read into things because you’re not there you don’t know. His most backward ass comment that a man in his position representing the state of AZand the people was that Jodi wasn’t sexually assaulted by Travis after Travis said he did on the phone call. His argument because she never reported it. He is a freaking troglodyte.

  93. I bet the jury is having a difficult time with the fact that TA’s throat was slashed…that is the only part that doesn’t fit. What do…I…make of it? I think she didn’t do that part…and Jodi’s testimony states that she does not remember, so it COULD be that she didn’t do that part at all. But that is a theory, not evidence…hmm, I wonder if the defense could have just thrown that theory out there. Okay, I know there was no EVIDENCE that anyone other than Jodi was involved…but there is NO evidence there WASN’T someone else involved. The investigation was MORE than focused on ONLY Jodi. I think that none of what the prosecution is alleging was proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I just wish that Nurmi had hinted, “perhaps the reason Jodi doesn’t recall anything that happened following the gun shot, until she threw the gun into the desert is because someone ELSE was there. She wouldn’t remember either way, but it’s a possibility.”
    I know I sound ridiculous…but the case all around leads me to believe something was left out.

    • Dorothy, I agree. There is SO much left out, things we may never know.

      I believe Jodi is scared shitless, and because of that, she may never tell us everything. I hope she is acquitted, goes into hiding, and writes a book exposing those involved.

        • Hi meow…I answered your comment on the previous page about angels…yes it is me…1111 angels…I left you an additional comment too..

      • Hello ladies…I agree…my thought on the throat (trying to think like the jurior YIKES) goes along with the other wounds…and thats is she just snapped and went over board. I mean dam once you ve been threated and get the upper hand…how do you know where to stop?

    • The slash is the hardest part to get thru. I agree. But when JW questioned the ME he said the angle was coming from down to up. IMO they had a big fight and Travis has cuts on his legs and feet. They haven’t focused in it as much because it doesn’t fit the narrative that she went to “murder and slash” him. I think he probably held her down or something like that and even though he was dying he kept moving so she did it out of panic.

    • Hi Dorothy,

      I don’t think you sound ridiculous at all. I have always thought that the back wounds were self-defense, that someone ‘happened’ upon them during their fight and took advantage, and ‘finished him off,’ because that was the mormon thing to do (blood atonement). I never thought Jodi did the neck slash (though I could be wrong). In fact, I believe hers was a pretty classic “false confession” to the point that I contacted a group that deals in that. Not sure if they can or will do anything, but my hope is that they at least look.

      And I don’t do this only to try to help someone whom I think is not as guilty as people claim, I do this in hopes that if there ARE others involved – they get caught. And if nobody else was involved, then answer the unanswered questions. THAT would be justice.

      • I have thought that myself at times. Maybe one of the roommates came home, rushed to her defense, found him on top of her and slashed his throat. I wonder if we will even knwo what really happened.

      • cindyp,
        I wonder if ANY of the jurors feel as we do. I too, believe there were other(s) involved. The blood atonement thing, being this IS a Mormon-related case, is what I have suspected all along. I continue to wonder if Jodi’s story of the two intruders was more accurate than what she testified in court… I don’t know…will we EVER know? I think Jodi is protecting someone or she and/or her family has been threatened, so she is being he fall guy.

        • I hope so, Dorothy. But another thing I was thinking was if there are mormons on the jury, do they all know about blood atonement? If so, would they do the right thing by wanting it investigated further or would they, too, be afraid? I’m sorry to any good and well-meaning mormon believers, but I think whatever sect of the mormons has such control over the system in AZ needs to be brought to the pubic eye because, imo, justice is NOT being served for America.

          And one last thing; if you all look at the ‘evidence’ (or lack of it) that is before us now, this entire scenario between Jodi and TA does not make sense. YET when you bring in the possibility of Jodi’s second story (add one or two other people), everything falls into place much easier and a story-line can be seen.

    • Not ridiculous, Dorothy. There is no proof that she did the slashing at all, so there is room for speculations and possible scenarios. When I consider she did it, it must have been in the heat of the fight, either he fell on the knife or she slashed toward his head because he was still moving, holding her or trying to grab her. But she may have done none at all. Nurmi during her recross pointed out that no one knows if she actually did all the slashing, but never brought it up again.

      • So, everyone above, and anyone else who has input, opinion,
        How, if you were a juror in this case, would you even express this to the other jurors? I wouldn’t know how to bring it into the deliberations. I have to believe the jurors, or at least some of them, feel there is a BIG question as to WHO ACTUALLY killed TA. Even though Jodi say’s she killed in self defense, I would have to ask the others if they feel that nothing really makes sense, neither the Prosecution’s story nor the Defense’s story is plausible. I feel everything is so mish-mash. When the additional charges were plunked on at the last minute it caused the closing arguments to somehow be coming from left field. If both sides had to stick with the original charges, the charges that were argued throughout the entire four month trial, the closing arguments would have been more focused. Thus, the closings would have aided the jury in focusing on the verdict they sided with and given them something to use during deliberation. I WAS hoping that Nurmi would ask during his closing, “Has the prosecution even proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Jodi was, in fact, TA’s killer? JM has presented you with proof that Jodi was there that day, that there was a struggle of some sort, that there was blood, and that TA was killed, BUT did he prove BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that Jodi was the one responsible for the fatal stab wound”?…but alas he didn’t, therein lies my quandary, how will the jury be able to sort this out?

        • On a jury your only task at this point is to listen to the testimony and decide guilt or innocence of the defendant . You can’t investigate or speculate on your own. If you think the case against Jodi hasn’t been proven to your satisfaction, you vote not guilty. Only Jodi is on trial, no one else.

    • yeah, i do not know if I think others were involved. I think that if you look at any person who has been killed by multiple stab wounds or gun shots it is directly related to passion kills, people snap. Just like the Susan Wright case http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_162-6487682.html
      it is perfectly understandable when passive people are pushed too far to over kill in defense.

  94. any word when deliberations will start. Robin Meade said it will be delayed till 11:00am. whats up with that

    • stan…maybe the jury reached a verdict…hmm…the deliberations were to begin at 10am. If they are delayed until 11am that could be the “hour” that the judge stated, “the verdict will be read 1 hour after it has been reached”
      I wonder…?

  95. Hello everyone. Haven’t posted much in a few days but I have been reading. Can someone tell me what will happen if there is a hung jury.

  96. Does anyone know if Gulliver provided any further information regarding the personality type testing information he was collecting about a week ago?

  97. Hello everyone! Had to sleep some, but am back reading all your beautiful comments and insights! Notation: I just changed my name from Patty to this one, only found you guys a few days ago and noticed yesterday that there’s another Patty, so for the sake of less confusion, here’s my new one #SJ.
    Jodi has SO much support, everything will go well for her .The ta family hatred will eat away at them for a long time, it’s very unhealthy and will cause them many problems to come, let alone the Karma they cause for themselves! I somehow think that it stems from guilt and self hate about their childhood and being estranged from the Monster, but they’re all monsters anyway, with Meth Head leading the pack.

    • Agreed; Karma can be a bitch as I’m sure the haters will eventually find out.

      • Hi Patty ..lol.. I’m Pat..but aka Patricia, Patty, Patti, Trisha but never ever have I let anyone call me Patsy!! haha

  98. If they hang and we go through all this again, I want the defense to go ater the roomates and a forensic expert like Ron Hendry ( Injusticinperugia.org) up there.

      • and I want detective dickhead and the medical stooge and kermit and judge dread fully prosecuted/disbarred/jailed for the travesty of justice perpetuted in this kangaroo court!

        then the Hughes and cult of death charged for the murder/blood atonement of Travis Alexander!

    • I would think if they are hung the judge could make them continue deliberating because not much time has been spent

    • I think they will if the jury is hung. I think that is why in essence Jodi NEVER admitted to KNOWING FOR A FACT she killed him. She said clearly she assumed she did. She shot and never saw blood, she thought she missed, and doesn’t remember doing any stabbing.
      I often fantasize that there is an ongoing private investigation behind the scenes. I swear if this story gets into the right hands, there is so much here that is not being told.

  99. I believe Jodi is 100% innocent and I look forward to the verdict! I do think Jodi will need to explain herself on some of the many lingering questions, but that will be after the ACQUITTAL :)! Questions like, why was her cell phone off for soo long on June 4th, and why did she outright lie to the jury about returning the gas can to the Salinas Wal-Mart (I checked, she lied, I read the transcript). There are others as well. But, go Jodi, I look forward to meeting you someday!!

    • Vladimir “JM doubled down on a felony murder without the fact being there”. “desperate”

      • I like their comments about Judge Perry…apparently, Judge Larry Seidlin wasn’t thrilled with Perry’s comments either.

  101. Does the court notify the public when the jury has a question in AZ in high profile cases?

    • No, the judge read the question and it is discussed with the lawyers. We’re not included. 🙁 You’d think they would want our input. 😉

      • Oh no…..LOL LOL LOL

        It’s exactly what will take care of his ass when he gets there……

      • It’s a picture of a cabin with a LION, TIGER AND BEAR ON THE PORCH…..LOL LOL

  103. HLN or CNN ( friend texted me this info so not sure what she is watching) said a juror arrived and is in shorts. Guess he didn’t get the memo it was pushed to 11am start.

    Mitigation specialist is there as well

        • Yes but I think they knew night before they were gonna come in the next day and notify judge.

  104. Wow watching ID atm and Juanabee is at it again. This trial is another strange mormon case against Doug Grant. All I hear is objection, objection, objection from kermit. He is such a one trick pony and this is the second time in two weeks I have seen him on one of these shows. He does seem to like the spotlight. This guy received manslaughter.

    I am hoping for an acquittal but I think manslaughter will come back by the end of the week.

    I really do not see how any jury could come back with M1 or M2 with the shaky evidence in this trial.

  105. ´´ABC15 Arizona @abc15
    HAPPENING NOW: RT @AMYABC15: #jodiarias Prosecutor Juan Martinez just walked in Smiling ear to ear. http://bit.ly/UqXAHa´´

    What is Kermit smiling about??Hey mister,no verdict yet! Let the verdict be reached and then we’ll see who gets to smile!

  106. Was reading some of the haters comments. What really infuriates me is that someone wanting Jodi dead and then ask why Travis’s parents hasn’t been there. Most of the comments is coming from people who know nothing about this trial.

    • Those people base their opinions on what the latest talking head on HLN is ranting about…One of them said the other day that TAs grandmother that raised him was crying when a picture of TA was shown. They don’t know that she passed away as did his parents.

    • Wow comments like that from the haters tell me all I need to know about them. They are truly clueless.

  107. Oh I forgot to add in my post. A huge thank you to SJ for providing this site and giving me and many others the chance to talk to educated and open minded people throughout this trial. The people here are truly wonderful and caring and have even helped me with my previous DV.

    A (((((Big Hug)))))) to all

    Go Team Jodi 🙂

  108. reporterjmiguel One observation while I was leaving court..HUGE police presence. Do they know something we don’t?? #Arias #JodiArias
    3 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite

    • The crowds are getting bigger and people were blocking the fire exits, so maybe they called in more to keep those people under control? I’m not certain, but might be the reason.

    • Hello pretty girl…HUGE police presents…But to think the police know something…
      I doubt the police know anything there referring to det flores..lol…just kidding

      I doubt the police know before the rest of the world given all the coverage.

    • I think the haters truly want there to be a verdict today and they need extra police to handle the crowds.

  110. I’m so nervous. Lord please give the jury the strength and courage to acquit Jodi.

      • Amen.

        Please do not let them be scared to return a not guilty verdict due to the CA fiasco. Give them strength to be true to their feelings and beliefs.

  112. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 23m
    Inside hallway now. Keeping my eyes open. Jurors are seen dressed down for the most part

  113. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m
    Inside hallway now. Keeping my eyes open. Jurors are seen dressed down for the most part. #JodiArias

        • Being that some jurors actually wore denim and t-shirts tells me that. I was on a federal grand jury and we were not allowed to dress down during our entire 7 month tenure. There is an expected dress code for jurors. But if you don’t have professional looking clothes and can’t afford them, then what can be done?

  115. Jodi’s tweets were mentioned by Jean C. I think the tweets should stop, I honestly don’t think they are doing anything good for Jodi. 🙁

  116. OMG Just realized my phone was off! First thought, “gosh I could have missed my notification that the jury is in”, Second though, ” Oh shit, hope my husband didn’t die while it was off”!

  117. I am told the jury has questions that need the legal teams to be in court. It has something to do with the gas cans and walmart. I

    • I’m (not living there now) from the south. You can bet your ass every Juror seated would know the Wal-Mart return policy like the back of their hand. Doesn’t everyone know you don’t need a receipt when the return is under 20$?
      I swear If I called my Mama RIGHT now and asked her, she would recite the whole policy off the top of her head, LOL!!

  118. Hi all-
    Okay, in the words of Henry Lee…somethings wrong. I have ponder over this and I think she is only pleading self defense bc that is her best chance of getting off, or less time.. She did not admit to this crime for 2 years. I think this was her best option presented by her defense attorney.

    There is no way in hell that she did this crime. She could not over power him. There is hardly any blood in the house. There is no way she is this type of mastermind, or this demented. The whole neck think and washing in the shower I think is ritualistic of the Mormons. I don’t think she had any part of that.

    There is no footprints of hers in the blood. Surely a foot imprint would be somewhere. Are we supposed to think she had on foot covers? Gloves while shooting her camera? And then she cleaned the whole house and did laundry? It is ridiculous on some level.

    Even when she testified from the stand and she said she killed him it was not believable. I don’t think she is the one who actually killed him. “Hi, I am here to have a sex fest, have you take pictures of my va-j-j, slash you to pieces, bathe you, and then clean your home and take care of your dog.” She shows no signs of being this sick and calculated.

    i don’t think she has any idea of what really happened that night. If things went down as she claims, then she became superhuman bc she was scared to death and she fought for her life and did not stop. In either case, it is time for her to get her life back. She says when she got to Hoover dam that she had blood on her hands and such. Yet only one blood print of her hand in the whole scene. No fingerprints of her blood in the kitchen, laundry, bedroom, etc. Something’s wrong!

    A girl who is so interested in beauty, expression, nature, love all captured by her lens, is not capable of orchestrating this crime. it does not make sense.

    • I am RIGHT there with you Suz! I will NEVER believe Jodi killed him. I feel the exact same way you do. The ONLY reason she claims self-defense, is because it was most plausible and would allow her to present evidence otherwise she would not.

      • I would think it would be difficult to cut someone from ear to ear in one big swipe. Surely you would have to be incredibly strong and have a super sharp big knife. And repeated stabbing…why didn’t the knife get stuck in him? If the jurors use logic, this does not add up.

    • I agree 111% no damn way did she do this, and if she started it, sure as shit someone else finished it.

    • How refreshing to hear common sense that cuts thru the minutae .
      You hear constantly; “Jodi lied, Jodi lied” Well she lied when she said she did it too.

      What was in that codespeak magazine stuff; and a while ago she wrote in her journal how she had a dream
      of 2 people and 1 is in jail.
      I imagine that after fun and pictures, the ninjas said get lost– get out of here because we’re going to rough him up some.
      that’s why JA could merrily drive to the other guys house . Her mom said she was all normal until 2-3 days later learns from phone call the death. Then she was a basket case. could it be a turnout totally not expected?

  119. I am told the jury has questions that need the legal teams to be in court. It has something to do with the gas cans and walmart.

      • yeah!

        I keep forgetting that whole issue that it was actually “kerosene” cans and not gas cans.

        • Why was that never pointed out? Did they stipulate to refer to the kerosene can as a gas can? Does not make sense.

      • I don’t know if that’s it Bruce. Nurmi wasn’t there. Jennifer Wilmott is already gone from the courthouse, and all of this can be handled over the phone. They’re not going to tell US anyway. LOL

    • well, I do predict they have at least one 2-brain-cell person on the jury that can’t understand the gas can non-issue.

      But, really, rumors are rumors.

  120. Here’s a question I had for a while:Did anyone notice that the ex-girlfriend who has the dog now, I forget her name, nodded her head up and down when she answered NO on the stand if ta abused her and was that her way of telling the Jury the Truth?

    • Yes I did notice it!! She nodded yes but said NO—-thats what a liar can do unintentionally.

    • I wonder why Dr. Drew didn’t have his human lie detector tell us about that??!!

    • Yes, noticed. I feel sorry for Deanna, she was one of his victims, but she did not tell the whole truth on the stand, and is still being manipulated by the cult-clan.

    • I heard a lot of people comment here who noticed that same thing. I bet at least one person on the jury had to notice too 🙂

  121. If the jurors are dressed down, they do not have a verdict. When they come in dressed up, we will know for sure..Unless they reach the verdict in the middle of the day today.

  124. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m
    I hear reports that Martinez and Willmott have been seen around. I haven’t seen them though.

    • They just showed Wilmott, but it doesn’t necessarily mean anything yet.

  128. Just read on comment that this lady’s cat will not stay off her lap, so she thinks something is up. Maybe she can make some money off this cat since it has special jury reading powers LOL

    • LOL @ Crystal! Too funny….

      hmmmm, my cat went right back to sleep after getting up to eat his breakfast so I think nothing is up.

      I’m certain my cat’s psychic powers are better than her cat’s psychic powers! hahaha

  129. Jen W. was spotted leaving the courthouse…nothing is going to happen for a least 2 hours.

    • Weird they are there at all! I think the late start couldn’t have been a known appointment. I think it caused them speculation just as much it did us. They weren’t there yesterday.

    • Thanks for the update Ann!

      How is everyone staying connected as to not miss the verdict being read if you cant be at the computer waiting for it? Twitter? Email? I know there’s a text alert but I forgot the code. I’m abroad anyway so that option might not work. I really want to see the acquittal 😉 live.

      And I hope Jodi dyes her hair blond again as soon as she’s free. You go girl.

  130. Jennifer just left!! So nothing yet!1 No News is Good News Good morning everyone!! ((((((((((HUGS))))))))))

  131. As long as they’re deliberating it means no consensus. Worst case scenario: Murder 1. As long as they’re talking we know there is no agreement on that. Best case scenario: Manslaughter vs not guilty. As long as they’re talking that too is a possibility. C’mon jury: don’t be afraid. Do the right thing. Then leave the courthouse..go on vacation and when you come back Nancy’s mob will have moved on to Florida.

  133. I have a lot of questions about these roomates. Where were they those five days? Were they home? If so why did they not unload the washing machine and dishwasher? Who would not check Travis’ room if the door was closed to his “suite” and nobody has heard from him in five days. None of this makes sense to me. Am I missing some facts?

    • The biggest question is how did they not smell anything – and what about the dog – I’m sure the dog was acting strange.

    • I don’t think so NH, about missing facts. I just think your nose and brain are in sound working order.

      • Seriously…How do five people not use the dishwasher and washing machine in five days..not even two or three people. And the smell…omg..it had to be horrid.

    • Yes the roomates were there and its all very fishy. So was Travis’s ring and car in the garage and blood washer or dryer door that they did not notice. This smells of a cover up. Don’t even have to mention as Kermit and HLN loves to point out it was 100 degrees in June that year and Travis was decomposing for 5 days feet away from them! I will never believe that the 911 call was an orchestrated event some time after the fact they found the body! Why did they have Marie Mimi Hall or whoever it was call??? She did not even live there like the 4 men and the dog.

        • Oh, really weird and she spit out Jodi’s name so fast!! WTF? That sounded preplanned.

          • True , you’d think the defense must of checked in to this? Smells very fishy,like a thousand whales fishy.

    • Exactly. Dogs are so loyal. It would have been going crazy, barking ,sniffing, scratching at the gate, NOT eating, etc.

      And the smell….even the detective said as soon as he walked into the house he could smell decomposition. The roommates are lying or on crack.

      • Yes what has NOT been stressed in this trial has upset me and these are major factors in my mind that there was incriminating items removed before they called 911. Just because Jodi admitted to the killing does not mean that those creeps and/or PPL friends didn’t contaminate crime scene and/or remove evidence that would cast Travis in a bad light.

        Isn’t it suspect also that not one of the roomates testified? They didn’t want anything to do with this and probably feigned I know nothing I was just a renter. I mean really they know nothing about the nature of a guy they are living with? Not even to come say something good about him for Juany? Very suspicious.

        • And the fact that both roommates were in the house during the night Jodi arrived and they were in and out during the day. Enrique’s bedroom shared a wall – he was a 2×4 away from them. One of them claims they talked to TA in the morning. Didn’t they notice the car parked outside?

          Many questions are unanswered about the roommates and the girlfriends that were were in and out. How could they NOT smell something and NOT noticed the dog acting different?

          I don’t care if the dog was fenced off downstairs. Didn’t he try to jump or get thru it? He’s a dog for pete’s sake! They never stop and I would think would have been driving them crazy in his attempts to get past them and up the stairs to get to his master.

    • No, NH, and if you read the Flores Report page on this site as well as the comments you might find some other things that make you go hmmmmmm….. (something’s amiss)

  134. Have any of you seen this story of the father who whipped his daughters for either making a twerking video (another term I’d never heard of and had to do the google!) or for sneaking out of the house?

    I ran across the story last night and I’m still haunted by this video today. I feel it ties into Jodi’s story about abuse and how, when violence and abuse is dished out to a child it is passed along to the next generation and accepted as normal.

    I’m revolted by some of the comments – very reminiscent of the comments from the haters who make Jodi’s abuse acceptable and ok.

    Nothing changes if we don’t stop this insanity.

    ***WARNING*** If you do watch the beating video ***WARNING*** It’s NOT easy to watch or listen to it.

    (((((these 2 young girls))))

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ50aztFW0o

      • Janeen, I’ve been so sick over all this insanity. I’m getting to a point that I’m unable to comprehend what we are capable of inflicting upon each other.

        And those 3 young girls who escaped last night with at least one 6 year old child from that house of insanity!??! It makes me sad I’m a human being and that we have this insanity happening practically every. single. day.

        It seems, in spite of ALL the resources and knowledge we have today to curb / end abuse and violence it continues grow. And the hater’s get more shrill.

        Makes me want to retreat to an small tropical deserted island only to live with my pets!

  136. I’m afraid to put my TV on while we wait for a verdict. I have to check in here 1st, cuz I don’t want to be ‘alone’ when the moment comes. Ok, looks like we aren’t there yet so TV can go on…

  137. What time to bring this up…Please dont get mad but I am new and have a stupid question.

    How in the world would i put my ugly mug on the side ways G?

    Sorry…but im just a dumb country boy.

  138. I have asked so many times and no one has ever known so I will ponder again the question….Where was the DOG?? Jodi said the dog was there when she got there at 3am And while she was there no one stopped by so no one took the dog away. So WHERE was the dog all those days TA lay dead in the shower. I have cats and if I am in the restroom for too long they are going crazy at the door. You cant tell me that dog WAS not going nuts by TAs bedroom door. And the roommates didn’t see puppy poo all over from not being taken out or did he have a doggy door? Even if he had a doggy door the dog still would need fed and be going crazy at the DOOR. Why was this NEVER brought UP??

    • Mimi Hall testified the dog was there when they went in the house the day they found TA

    • The dog was there but a gate had been put up to keep him from upstairs. Apparently one of the roommates girlfriends fed the dog…..Even IF the roommates did not smell the decomp that dog definitely did. There is a huge vent over the double doors into Travis’ suite.

      • That dog would of been acting odd. I have seen the photos with TA and the dog..that dog LOVED him. Sorry I cant remember the dogs name. I have been told that the smell of a dead body is one that is not easily hidden. I don’t know why they did not smell the decomposed body. Didn’t a cop state he smelled it as soon as he walked in?? But then again it could of been like it you went out of town for a week and somehow your refrigerator got turned off you may not smell the rotting food till you open the doors.

        • Yes. Flores be noticed the smell immediately. That was one of my initail red flags. There is no way they did not notice it. They were in and out all 5 days. I know people get used to a smell after awhile but it should have hit them in the face the way it hit Flores upon entering.

          • From the Cassie Anthony case we all learned how strong and unlike any other smell decomposition is. I think those roommates stories stink to high hell and are full of lies, holes, and just don’t make logical sense.

    • Jennifer,
      I’ve never understood that.
      When the “FRIENDS” came to the house, they said they smelled something, but it was like the
      dog had messed in the house.
      I’m like you, IF I went to the bathroom, my cats were right outside the door, my granddoggy was here
      one time and I fell down a few stairs, I told het to go get grandpa, she ran al over barking looking for him.
      I’ve never understood how that dog didn’t go crazy back and forth, NEVER.

      The roommates also had their bedrooms upstairs, BLOOD?? They didn’t see it, smell it?
      Here they are at the crime scene and NEVER testified.
      How many times has a parent or anyone else that had a child die or someone in the house and THEY always have to testify.
      One roommate said he even washed some clothes. That is where the camera was “supposed” to be found.

      There is corruption all over that house and scene and it stinks to high heaven

      DOUBT????
      All over the place!

      I know deanna has the dog now. BUT there sure is a lot of questions left about that for sure.

      • Aly,
        Exactly what I have thought from the start. I think the crime scene was compromised during those several days. I never understood how the roommate did wash and the cloths were still in there from the crime scene when the police got there??? Doesn’t add up.
        My cats have been here when I have hd a seizure and have been out of it for a little while. WHen I come to all 4 of them are right there either meowing,laying next to me, or licking me trying to get me up. The story about the dog is so OFF!! I pray there are pet owners on the JURY.

  139. G’afternoon, will catch up with your posts. Just one thing .. whoever is “tweeting” in Jodis name needs hunted down and . . well . . stopped. We can only hope that if what the judge on hln said yesterday about this jury IS seeing, hearing and watching media and will lie saying they haven’t, that they have enough sense to know when they hear Jodi is tweeting that is sooooo impossible for her to be doing. It’s a wonder my head hasn’t shaken plumb off.. Unless the jury comes back with acquittal they’re wasting time with anything else because KN and JW have every imaginal plea to throw at the entire state and other entities and maybe add some charges against the state in Jodis behalf. They will not stop until they crush everyone that has interfered with this case. Ok, stepping off my soapbox, I’m just really livid about more things than bias. This is a shame with criminal overtones that need addressed by congress, pfft lol, as if, but where does one take a problem like this when the government is the problem.

    • My take on the twitter thing is and maybe I am wrong because I got this from GMA that Jodi talks to the person Donovan I think her name is and tells her what to type in twitter. Donovan says they talk everyday when she was interviewed. But I do not know if all the tweets are really coming from Donovan OR Jodi.

    • I have to agree the tweeting is not the best idea but my take on this was this—this is a non sequestered jury and there are probably at least a few who are cheating and reading listening elsewhere so some of them have read or heard about the tweets from a family member or friend at the least. We don’t know who is tweeting in that account or if Jodi s indeed telling them what to tweet as she has no access to twitter herself.

    • Explains all the mitigating factors that could cause someone to do what they were found guilty of . Tries to avoid death sentence

    • She does all kinds of stuff & plays a huge role. Anything from finding experts to gathering history from family members. Others may more than I.

  141. The dog was taken care of by Deanna. I think from the time the roommates came home.??? Deanna has kept the dog.

    • So where did they think he was? What do you mean by when they came home? if it took five days the dog would have been nuts. Poop everywhere, hungry, scratches on the door. what??

      • Have you read the Flores Report link at the top of the page? It gives a breakdown of all the “stories” the roommates gave.

        • No I haven’t read the report…because I think Flores is FULL OF POO. I think that he lied on the stand and in all of his reports. I think the dog story doesn’t add up but they were too worried about the lies Jodi was telling then on whether or not others stories don’t add up.

    • No, Enrique’s girlfriend, Kim, was making sure that Napoleon had food and water during those five days.

  142. So no verdict yet, was the activity just some juror questions for the lawyers?

      • Jaz…you’re much too kind….”think””?????? LOL LOL LOL LOL

        • 😉 If only you could hear what was in my head to say. No sense arguing with an idiot.

          • LOLOL

            It might have been fun to hear what was in your head!!!

            🙂

            I have decided to stop responding to the obvious trolls and just report them.

            Now, there are a few possible moles still posting around here…but we will see how that turns out. I do sometimes post to them.

  144. To Susan, Loved the First American avatar—-especially since I’m 1/2 First American (Blackfoot Nation)

  146. Still can not understand about the decomp odor in the house. Even with AC wouldn’t the air in the house recirculate? Must have been horrid!

  148. SJ, I cant access this site anymore when I visit my parents. The IP is blocked.

  149. I do not know when the roommates came home. But Deanna was to take the dog and care for it while Travis was in Cancun.

    • Roommates were in the house all week. Going to work, church. Their girlfriends there too.

    • Does anyone know if Deanna picked the dog up?

      The roommate….Zach or Enrique… on NG or Dr. Phil…last week said that they fed the dog each night that the dog didn’t go without food…

      A few days later…Zach on NG or Dr. Phil….said that he wasn’t there all week at Travis’ house…lies…lies…and more lies…he keeps telling…

  150. Good morning everyone!

    Hope everyone is doing well
    & Keeping the faith!

    🙂

  151. OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG

    You know you’re OBSESSED when you look for ways to get out of going to the gym after work because you won’t have your laptop on the treadmill……but will have the cell phone in one hand, water in the other, and earphones plugged into the television attached to the treadmill………UGH

    • LOLOL

      I know!

      I have my tablet all charged and ready and I signed up for the text thingy in case I am away from here.

      • I refuse to leave my laptop, moving it and my tablet and phone from room to room as I *try* to go about my daily routine.

        Ha. 😆

        • lol!

          I can picture that…I’m actually a bit nervous about missing the notification.

    • My other half called you a junkie…an internet junkie.Lol He wants me to ask if you need a phone number to help you kick the habit. LOL( I read your post out loud because it sounded like me today begging him to go to the store to get ice incase the jury came back) LOL

      • ^5 Jenn….I couldn’t give a flying shit about the internet itself – but I will admit to being a “Justice for Jodi” junkie……..LOL LOL

    • Um, I wouldn’t have any problem at all talking myself out of going to a gym.

      Just sayin’

      • LOL LOL

        Unfortunately I cannot talk myself out of going – it is IMPERATIVE to my continued weight loss journey….but I do waiver at times….LOL LOL

      • A place where you can smell everybody else’s sweats and dirty shoes and catch diseases instead of going for a walk, a hike or a biking in the sunshine and fresh air.

      • I don’t think the judge should be allowed in there. If they need her, they should buzz. She could influence them whether she means to or not. I also think the deliberations should be recorded. That way, if there has been any juror misconduct (seeing something they shouldn’t have), it would be known.

        • I agree with that. A few years ago there was a case where a jury conducted their own trials at home to come up with their vedict. If it wasn’t for a juror having a guilty conscious no one would of ever known of the miss conduct

          • Look at that big DUI case with millionaire that adopted his girlfriend to move his money into her name. He was found guilty but just granted a new trial because a juror failed to disclose a DUI in history.

  154. I hope this is good. I have my candle lit again today. Pray for Jodi. I was talking to my girlfriend last night and I had to remind her that she to was abused. She was never hit by her ex-husband, but man he’d say things to her that would make your skin crawl. I told her this is verbal abuse, and it’s not O.K. She was brought up like a lot of us in the 70’s. The man was the king of the house, and you took whatever he gave you, good or bad. She did the same when she married. I’m so glad I rescued her.

    • Brenda, which trial? The tweets from Wild About Trial come from people right outside the courtroom and they say people are playing hopscotch.

  156. Wow, like I said before, nerve-wracking!!!!! We can speculate all day long but still have no idea what they are doing, thinking, feeling. It’s making me crazy.

  157. I’m watching closing with KW and he talks about Travis getting Abe in the bathroom and intimidating him and then I remember Clancy Talbert the woman that said Jodi was the one that intimidated her in the bathroom and she is on the 2nd page of the Flores report the one that her and Ryan burns said she was late getting to Utah. Just more lies and shit about Jodi…. She the scape goat for the real killers

    • That’s exactly what I believe Tonya.
      Nothing else makes any sense, NOTHING!!!

  158. You know what kills me, even if its murder 1 wouldn’t you want it to take a long time? I mean God your talking about a womans life!!!

    • THE HATERS KILL ME AND THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL JODI!! ITS SICK!!

      • It is hard to ignore them but I have proof they are coming on here or at least various news sites, Krista, after I signed your petition and asked to have you follow my twitter, Fox 12 out of Phoenix followed it, the same ones that asked SJ for an interview, I saw that and thought wow,

    • I agree krista! I think this is very complicated for the juriors. They have alot f evidence and testimony to discuss and go over. I feel positive about them taking their time.

    • yes…and I am sure once something starts happening they will be ready to broadcast it live…we are just reading the tweets for now that wild is posting…he will let you know in the tweet when something comes up….

  161. Did you hear that on HLN open mike that marie…she’s not quite sure about it being murder 1…now she is worried since it is taking them so long…she said that now she is questioning the juror’s professionalism….

    So if it doesn’t go the way that the haters want it to go…then they are unprofessionals…

    Duh…NG started saying the juror’s were uneducated when Casey’s verdict was read…

        • There’s gotta be at least a handful of Casey haters, she was in pretty much the same place as Jodi, 90% of america hated her.

      • A news reporter was talking to some of the haters outside the courthouse one day…and it was obvious that they were Casey’s haters too…and they voiced their anger about Casey’s verdict…

        Many of the haters have double the amount of anger than what is considered normal…LOL…

        New medical term for the haters…Arias Anthony Anger…AAA…the haters need to get baby doc to start treating them as soon as possible for this unfortunate disease…there is no cure…it spreads from one offending host to another offending host…

        Oh I forgot baby doc has only that one year of training in the filed so she would not have any specialty in this diagnosis…LOL…

    • Whatever happened to the notion that juror’s are member’s of “our peers”

      Those folks need a 7 grade civic’s lesson.

  162. I don’t know Moni but I’m gonna try and find out. I saw it up when I flipped channels. I’m going to check wildabouttrial. I see that there are people still asking the same questions that I have asked over and over and over. Can’t blame them, those questions have never been answered. Tonya????????? What do the cards say? Anything??????????

  164. I have my candle lit too and said a Hail Mary for the jury to find her not guilty

    • Hi Tonya, I just found you on FB and asked you to be my friend………….pleeeeeeeeeeaseeeeeeee

      ps…………you are one of my favorite posters ♥

      • Tonya was my fb friend too but she deleted me for special reasons huh Tonya lol?

  165. At least my house is getting cleaned. Little by little. Can’t stand just sitting here, so I am cleaning but afraid to stay away to long LOL

    • I know what you mean Crystal! i’m still in my pj’s!! Just have HLN on low, almost mute incase anything happens, but I need to get things done!!!! ;P

  166. I have always had The philosophy of Do not worry until there’s something
    to worry about

    I Feel like I’m going to throw up And I have so much anxiety. I just made myself a drink And it’s 2:10 in the afternoon

    • Cindy, if it’s causing you too much anxiety, try to go outside for a bit, like if you have a garden or something, just to take the edge off! We might not even get a verdict today, life is short, don’t stress yourself out if you can help it, we’ll be ok!

  167. Hi, is anybody aware if any of the Jury members are Morman, also, is Judge Pickles a Morman as well. We know that Flores is. Would be interesting to know…

    • I thought DD that maybe there might be a couple of Mormon’s on the jury, but I think that came out of HLN’s mouth so who knows….

          • Lynn, yes, I mean JM. I’ve wondered that for awhile but have never seen it mentioned anywhere. But if his back up singer Flores is LDS it’d be no surprise if Juanita is too.

            I hope she is freed and can get outta AZ, never to return there again!

  168. Is AA here Wildabout the like above has something up about bulling in the workplace should check it out.

  169. Just the seal up. They say you can text WAT 33733 to get the verdict as soon as it comes in on wild about trial.

  170. Watched the closing arguements for both sides. I think Nurmi appealed to the jury more the JM.

    JM tried to shove it down their throats and Nurmi had the “use your common sense” approach.

    That will set good with the Jurors. MO.

  171. wildabouttrial.com/bullying-in-the-workplace-intel-employee-sues/ … Bullying in the workplace; Intel employee sues #Bullying Intel #Office #CriminalJustice #News #Law #Trial #court

    For Also Abused if she is here

    • Thanks for sharing Melvis! Nice to see there are other pro-Jodi sites out there! 😉

  173. The Jodi haters know nothing about a jury and how it works. They think this jury hated Jodi and thought they would come back within an hour. I’m sure after this jury read the rest of the text messages Travis sent to Jodi, they started seeing even more abusive behavior. According to ALV they were horrible and there were hundreds of them. As hard as Juan ‘little man’ Martinez tried to make ALV a liar..they will see for themselves she was telling the truth.

  174. OMG. I feel like pavlov’s dog.

    I went away from here and I heart a text message come on my phone!

    My heart dropped!

    I’m a dork. It was my brother texting me.

    LOLOLOL

  175. Tell me I’m not going CRAZY!!

    On ABC News page.. aaargh.. they are SO Dumb, here’s my response to a dimwit..

    She said she killed him–THIS isn’t in dispute. What IS in dispute, is whether it was premeditated and it was not!

    Tell me, if you had had to kill someone to save your life, would you like no man to ever date you? To have no family, Why can’t you relate this to YOU?

    It could happen to any one of us; you might walk home tonight and around the corner you meet a crazy gunman, he wants to kill you, what do you do, let him? Or do you fight for you life?

    Well, this presents a problem in Arizona, doesn’t it. because either way you LOSE YOUR LIFE! Is that FAIR, that the State wants to Murder you because you didn’t let that man kill you?

    13 Minutes Ago

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  177. My name is Ed. I’m 70 years old and live with my wife in Nashville. I’m going to take a chance and post some information out here that may give you some concern.

    In January, 1981, I was a juror on a very horrible case in Nashville Tennessee. Our jury gave the defendant, Cecil Johnson, 3 death sentences and 3 life sentences. He was guilty beyond ALL doubt and was finally executed by the state of Tennessee a couple of years ago. In prison, on death row, he killed another inmate for staying on the phone too long and was involved in a group killing of another inmate.

    The reason I am posting here is to show the serious flaws in our jury system. It may give some of you concern and some of you hope, but what I’m going to tell you is the truth and let you see this from a juror’s perspective.

    Cecil Johnson, young black male ~24yo walked into a neighborhood market that he regularly frequented on the 4th of July weekend. There were 3 people in the store. The black owner, his 13yo son and one white customer.

    He pulled out a .38 5-shot revolver and ordered everyone to the checkout counter. He was wearing no disguise, so they knew him. He ordered the 13yo boy to open the register and give up the $400 inside. He then shot the boy directly in the face and almost decapitated him (1 dead). He then shot the father/owner and the customer in their heads and they fell to the floor. Running out of the store there was a taxi at the curb with 2 black males talking in the front seat. He shot through the windshield and killed them where they sat. (2 more dead). He sold the gun the next day for $100. His getaway driver turned state’s evidence and testified as to what happened. The severely wounded father *knew* Cecil Johnson and identified him. The customer was so badly injured, he did’t testify and is paralyzed/mute forever.

    We were sequestered in a hotel for the 7-10 day trial with no tv/phone/newspaper, etc. under armed guard. The Arias trial SHOULD have been handled this way, IMO.

    When the case was given to the jury (where the Arias trial is right now), we elected a foreman, discussed the overwhelming evidence in the case and took a quick, anonymous vote. Only one juror was ready to vote not guilty.

    We asked her why she felt as she did and she told us that she thought the defendant was “cute” and just couldn’t convict him. HUH??? I told her that I thought the school pictures of the 13yo murdered boy were pretty cute too. Eventually, after MUCH discussion, we agreed and convicted Cecil Johnson on 3 murders, 2 attempted murders and armed robbery. We had the penalty phase of the trial. 3 death penalties, 3 life sentences.

    FWIW, everyone dead was black. The judge was black 4 people on our jury were black. Prosecutor..black. One of his defense attornies was black.

    RACIST VERDICT the headlines/TV screamed when I returned to my family.
    The media lies. We all know this, right? The problem is reduced dramatically when you are truly sequestered.

    I’m only bringing this up to shine a light on a few things. The ridiculous vagaries of the jury system. Arias should have had a sequestered jury. Nancy Grace, etc. weren’t on TV back in 1981 and the ‘backwards’ state of Tennessee damned sure had them. If you think these jurors are above reproach coming in 9-5 and going home to their families, you are in dreamsville. It’s not that they may want to do a good job, they simply can’t in this type of high-profile case. When sequestration was denied, I think Jodi was nearly cooked. I’m sorry for those who are supporting her.

    My opinion? First, I NEVER watch TV anymore. I have watched on YT all of the trial video day-by-day, the police interrogations, read the documents etc. I’m more than familiar with this case. I think, if the jury is truly impartial, not affected by the outside world etc., that the state’s ‘master killing plan beginning in May’ was put to rest by Nurmi. I think the jury should focus on the ‘missing 3 minutes of photos’. What happened? I dunno, but I would be inclined to hold out for manslaughter and wouldn’t shed a tear if she got the max sentence on that charge.

    Here’s what you can’t do and get away with. Even if you are abused and you take the action she did there was NO excuse for not calling 911. If Jodi had done that and remained at the scene this wouldn’t be a high-profile case and I don’t think she would be charged w/1st degree murder/DP. No way. She could have talked her way out of it to a certain degree, but when you are lying,lying,lying the state wants to hurt you real bad. I hope she receives a manslaughter verdict, but with no sequestration, I wouldn’t count on it.

    Ed

    • The problem is if you are completely “out of it” you don’t think rationally. That’s why she didn’t call 9-1-1.

      More troubling is the fact Travis’s roommates did NOT notice anything amiss, even with the smell.

      • I agree with the smell factor. How in the world could they have not noticed. As to Jodi’s memory loss, she had many chances to do something different than ‘armed intruders’. I know it’s a shock to her, but it’s going to be tough in the jury room. Just know I’m on your side. Manslaughter. I hope they do the right thing and from what I have seen, that’s what happened.

        • It’s bizarre, Ed, but Dr. Samuels explained a lot of this weird behavior as a result of trauma/PTSD.

          What really was bad about this was she didn’t contact a lawyer as soon as the police contacted her.

          • Well, you’re correct about PTSD changing a person dramatically. I have had a 70tr life of horror and regret. I have permanent brain physical damage because of it. My reaction is one of hyper-vigilance and separation from the world at large. I’m a hermit. I won’t go into it because it’s just TOO much, but I agree with you about PTSD. As far as lawyering up PDQ after she was asked for the police interview, it certainly may be the worst omission she made. She needed a lawyer fast. I’m hoping the jury attempts to see some of her earlier mistakes (lawyer, etc.) as mistakes and don’t crucify her for it. She deserves a better shake than that.

      • How could 11 years go by and know one notice anything was wrong at that house in Cleveland Ohio, where everyone knew each other on the street? Just saying. Very strange world we live in. Even a child was born at the house! This is America .

        • I hear ya lura! I hope those bastards in Cleveland get sent away for a long time too!!!

      • I agree tonysam.
        I can’t believe the fact tht roommates were there , one’s girlfriend,
        the dog, Travis’s car.
        Not so much Travis’s car, he could have taken a cab, but the CELL PHONE,
        who leaves that???
        His “friends” didn’t.
        They recieved the message BEFORE that Travis was dead, so I’m sure most don’t
        intentionally leave their cell phone, boing on a trip and then it matters because his watch and ring were there.

        SOMETHING is really wrong here!!!
        I have more questionsbout all of them, than I do Jodi.

        • Plus his laptop in the office. I would have to believe if they were checking to see if he *had left* for the Cancun trip they’d open the office door and take a peek

    • Ed, while I understand what you are trying to say, I respectfully say no one can say what they would do in that situation unless they were in it.

      If you are scared to death, scared because you had to kill or be killed, you are less likely to call 911 than you are to run like a mo-fo and not look back.

    • Good points sir and what a trial that must have been for all involved. I agree with the sequestration and numerous other things were mishandled in this trial. I think it is the vagaries of the justice system in AZ. I think the jury doesn’t have enough to prove premeditation but they probably don’t really like Jodi. Hence I believe there will be a conviction of either manslaughter or M2. There may be one or possibly two hold outs for acquittal because they also didn’t like TA either, possibly men but maybe women, but the brutality of the killing, not calling 911and other things that relate back to how jodi handled this will not be to their liking, even if she was in a fog. She knew she had likely killed him. This is my honest take. With that said there should be a mistrial due to perjury issues, and judicial/ prosecutorial malfeasance.

    • Ed,

      Agree with you on the sequestration. The issue with respect to calling 911 is touch and go with me. I really do believe that in a situation such as this different people react differently, and to a certain extent it has to do with their general makeup and the environment they come from.

      Firstly, regardless of what happened, whether it was manslaughter or self defense the chances are this young lady was in a state of panic. And that’s where the issue arises. People’s reactions to a given situation when in panic changes. Not everyone can take the “obvious” approach of calling the police. Even those who do, may not call the police because their own personal life experience tells them that no one believes them, ever. This happens with folks, even when they are blameless. All their lives, their parents didn’t believe them, their teachers didn’t believe them, folks in general didn’t believe them. And its not because there was a reason behind it. Sometimes the things just snowball where folks start lying or hiding the truth because at an early age people either didn’t believe them or didn’t forgive them. When you whack a little gil around with a wooden spoon or a belt, you’re not beating the truth into them – you’re making sure they won’t tell you the truth. When you call the cops on your own 13 year old for growing pot, you are not instilling a civic sense into that teenager – you are making sure she doesn’t tell you the truth. When you are willing to let you’re own 16 year old leave the house because her grades are bad – you are not instilling discipline. You are sending a clear message – that girl has no reason to expect love from anyone, if she cannot get it from the two people that should give it to her conditionally – her parents. When the man she loves accuses her of always lying, and cheating and calls her a 3-hole wonder, and she takes it you have the picture of a person with no self esteem.

      This is not the woman I would expect to call 911 and say I just killed this guy who was abusing me. This woman has absolutely no reason to expect anyone to ever believe her for anything – leave alone something as drastic as a killing. This woman would do exactly what Jodi did. She would run and she would lie.

      It is very easy for those of us who have had a normal life to empathize with those who haven’t, but it doesn’t hurt to go through a little thought experiment. It takes some doing for some of us, and I am one of them, who had a normal happy home with doting parents, and good friends and a loving wife and great kids. But not everyone has it made that good.

      So pretend for a minute that you had led the life this young woman has. Listen to her testimony about that. Listen to the way TA conversed with her. Now go back and reassess your judgement. I submit you may end up with a different answer.

      • *It is NOT very easy for those of us who have had a normal life to empathize with those who haven’t*

        Boy talk about some serious typos. I could match typos with Horn.

        • How about me al can you match mine? LO
          I’ve always been impressed with your ability To look at this trial With the abuse surrounding it.
          You have read all of our stories And had compassion.
          This from a man who never experienced a
          buse. I commend you for that
          Your parents did a wonderful job, As I am sure you and your wife are… I hope your wife won’t mind if this much older woman gives you a hug..

      • I think your right, the spoon wacking, the calling the cops, and letting her leave at such a young age may not seem like much to some people but I can’t imagine treating my daughter like that. You can tell in the early interrogation tapes, she felt like it was her against the world.

    • Thank you for your heartfelt and well thought out opinion from a juror’s perspective. but I believe that PTSD as well as the clique-style mormonism played a huge part in why she didn’t call 911. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just my observation. But at the same time, I think what you said may very well represent any juror’s perspective that would differ from mine.

    • I honestly don’t think she had any time at all to call 911, it was all over in 3 terrifying minutes, Ed.

      When terrified and you have mortal fear, you don’t stop to get your phone.. a very angry and violent man has just body slammed you and is coming after you.. seconds count 🙁

  179. Wild about trial – Free pizza out side the court house. Police have out up police tape around the entrance. I guess security is a bit tighter.

  180. Salinas appears to have more than 1 walmart……could be wrong but Its possible she returned the kerosene can to another walmart in the area.

  181. You know, I’m watching the story about the kidnapped girls and how no one would have anticipated this behavior from him and how “normal” he seemed. It makes me wonder how HLN can tell this story and in the same breath conclude Jodi was lying because no one witnessed Travis’ behavior of abuse?? Are people really so dense!? I know it’s a rhetorical question but I’m just amazed at how ignorant people really are…..

      • HLN has a script that they follow when producing tabloid TV…they will manufacture/write whatever they need to fit their agenda.

        pure entertainment purposes only so they get to fuck with whomever they want….

        there sould be some recourse in law (the constitution) to those that the “entertainers” have harmed in anyway…

    • They discriminate who they pick and choose to plaster in their headlines for their ratings…some people aren’t as significant to them as another person would be…

      • No link there Ed. Three girls and a child had been kept captive for years..they got out of the house yesterday!

        • To clarify Ed..this has nothing to do with Travis..

          You should look at Flores, the roomates being in that house for 5 days, the dog not going beserk at the smell, the Hughes and their culpibility in “censoring” TA’s emails/messages, the Mormon “friends of TA” gathering and “finding” TA after 5 days, everyone pointing finger at Jodi.. so many questions point to this being something more than what is being portrayed.

    • Go back and read Gus Searcy’s testimony. He witnessed the or some of the abuse.

      • Yes the phone call btw Jodi & TA, while she was in the car with Gus & 1 other person.

  182. I must start with a confession. I used to be pro-Travis. Note I said used to. Not anymore. I questioning it when I first heard the phone sex tapes. Then, when people started tearing Alyce LaViolette to shreds for doing her job and making her sick, that was totally uncalled for. I found this site, which enlightened me further. The HLN lynch mob, lead by screaming dumbasses JVM and Nancy Disgrace, are in full on panic mode. Nancy was bleating like a goat last night she had no idea why the verdict hasn’t come down yet. This site has been very informative. Two questions:

    1. Why call the judge Pickles?
    2. When do you think the verdict will come? I’m banking on tomorrow sometime.

    • Hi and welcome KW. We call her pickles because ….well, just because. We also call her bobble-head.

      I have no idea when the verdict will come. I thought yesterday, but I was wrong.

    • I can’t remember when or how the pickles thing showed up it was a long time ago..

      I know it has to do with her sourpuss facial expressions…

      🙂

    • No clue when the verdict will come but feel free to guess. Mine was 1:13pm today. Welcome to the real…where people not only think for themselves but are encouraged to. 🙂

      • Glad you guys don’t hold the fact I used to be part of the hive mentality against me. When I heard the part where TA talked about a 12 year old having an orgasm, I thought I was going to be sick. Nobody in their right mind would want to hear that or know what it’d sound like!

  183. Im going to have to sign off in a few, have to go pick up the four boys at school.

    Lets keep the faith and hope for the best! (for jodi not me having to pick up four boys..haha)

  184. HLN caller changed her mind away from M1 based on Nurmi’s closing.

    • I’m surprised they put it on air. If she had called in to NG’s show she would never have gotten past the producer. I haven’t been watching NG but I know her style. Does anyone know if a Jodi supporter has ever been on her show and if so, was he/she allowed to finish a sentence?

      • Not that I’ve seen. I watched last night and she was going on and on about how it was going on too long. There was nothing else on and I didn’t have anything in my DVR, so…watched the bleating goat.

      • Whenever anyone says anything pro-defense they are immediately cut off. I boycotted them long ago, maybe things have changed.

  185. One more thing…these callers on HLN want to cry PM and give their opinion on why it PM. which
    is fine I guess.

    But they are too stupid to realize none of what they say matters because it has to be proven in court.

    Im just frustrated over their studity,

    • HLN makes you think that if you can figure out what happened based on their conjecture this is what will ensue. They have never heard of separating reality from fantasy. The live without reason.

    • HLN kills brain cells if you watch it too long, especially if it’s NG or JVM. Their screaming makes my ears hurt!

    • There is no way it was premeditated, NO WAY!!
      IF so, like Nurmi said, why not while he was asleep?
      Why not when he was in the shower with his back turned???
      It was NOT premeditated, period!

      AND besides that jaun wants us to believe she brought the gun and knife in her purse??
      NO WAY!!
      In the bathroom no way.
      They want to believe Jodi was jealous. NO WAY!!
      If anything Travis lost his temper because he knew Jodi was going to Ryan’s!

      • Hey Aly, Another thing is this…if it were pre-meditated why would she allow him to take pictures of her —whether she was nude or not?! I mean if it were pre-meditated wouldn’t she want absolutely no evidence of her having been there!

        • Exactly Duke!
          I still don’t understand the camera thing at all.
          Makes no sense.
          Someone else has to put it in the washer.

          The picture of him dead is supposedly taken by Jodi?
          The picture of her leg and Travis’s I guess head, I don’t know, can’t make it out.
          How in the hell was that taken??
          So, Jodi supposedly took these pictures and then threw the camera in the washer.
          NO WAY!!!

          Zach was into photography also.
          He said he and Jodi used to talk about photography.

          What made them go to the washer and find a camera?
          Why didn’t they see it those 5 days that they were there?
          The camera and pictures, like you say Duke leave a whole lot
          of unanswered questions.

          • We have only the States word that it is Jodi’s leg. Where’s the proof it was. Jodi would not have stopped to take photos of Travis dead,NO WAY!

            I smell crime scene tampering.. they’ve allowed witnesses to lie on oath, what else the State concealing?

        • and wait until 5:30pm to shoot him when the roommate is due back from work at 6pm.

      • Oh yes, and he wants the jury to believe that she stabbed him first, the gunshot came last, well, are we Really expected to belive he let her stab him and didn’t disarm her?

        This trial gets sillier and sillier..

        AQUITTAL PLEASE!

      • “If anything Travis lost his temper because he knew Jodi was going to Ryan’s!”

        I don’t know for sure, but it sounds, smells and looks like a heat of passion killing. They had a fight…a real one. Maybe Jodi had the gun all along, just in case it all went south w/Travis, no matter who is right. A fight.. Heat of passion, both parties=manslaughter. He lost and it’s all very sad. But there is no way it was premeditated in my judgement. Whether others here agree or not, Jodi’s actions / inaction in the minutes & years *after* the killing made it into the high-profile, ‘gotta seek the DP’ kind of case, fog or no fog. I hope the jury feels as I do and finds manslaughter.

        • I am really hoping that we get a video shot of Juan when the verdict is read and the verdict is manslaughter. This narcissistic obnoxious being will be a broken man. Does anyone know if he has any dogs he can kick? ;0

          • I think someone spotted him earlier… riding bareback on a Mexican chihuahua :mrgreen:

            SJ
            Team Jodi

            • The wife, kiddies and the pooch better head for the Bahamas or somewhere nice, or even a dilapidated Motel 6. Juan will not be a happy camper… 😛

  186. There is such a two faced mentality in this world. Demarte (hate to mention her) was so adamant about keeping an unbiased perspective to do your job right. Yet HLN and others have used emotion, including rage, sympathy to TA and family, hatred, fear, etc. etc. to lead people to believe that JA killed TA with intent and malice. The hypocrisy of this is so stunning. How can JM even talk about bias with a straight face? How can HLN. I would hate to see trials not covered live but I have to wonder if this is really doing our justice system serious harm?

    • Its shocking, simply shocking isn’t it, Nancy, I’d have had a job believing it if I hadn’t seen and heard it myself.

      I would seriously jail them ALL.

  187. Someone said Jodi locked the bedroom door before leaving????????????????
    Really??
    Who knew that except Zack?
    He said, ( before going to Travis’s bedroom just a minute, I’ll get the key.)
    Really?
    How did he know it was locked.
    He’s the only one that said that and he didn’t even testify!

  188. B.Karas wrote halg an hour ago ´”IF jurors take a lunch break at noon (3:00 pm ET), we should see them leave in about 15 minutes.” How come they arent having lunch today?Can they eat inside the deliberations room?

    • *half
      And kinda figured it out myself,maybe since they started late today,they will have a lunch break later…

  189. Oh man, I am on edge right now (as I am sure all of you are).

    I just got a new alert from 3TV and jumped out of my skin. It was only about a cement truck rolling over on the freeway.

    I didn’t realize how invested in this case I was. I am having anxiety attacks.

    Why won’t the jury just come back with their verdict?? I want them to take their time, but at the same time, the suspense is killing me!

    • Same here Nicole.I was here all day and decided to force myself to take a nap just to calm my nerves and be able to take my mind off this whole thing.

  190. Just read on twitter that jury came out for lunch and that did not look happy. Hmmmmmm. There are hold outs

  191. I turned on HLN for a moment and they showed Jennifer leaving the courthouse. I’m surprised JVM didn’t lead an angry mob to chase her down and crucify her.

    • And jump over the bushes to get to her…I was waiting for it and was secretly hoping that those were thorn bushes and she’d fall into them and well embarrass herself on national TV. Yesterday, I mentioned that she took off running after Cheney Mason and crew after the CA verdict and I’m hoping she does the very same thing this time, except she does a face plant into the road instead of the slight stumble against the curb like she did in FL. That lady gets on my nerves badly!

  192. The more I think about it the more I feel that there will be a hung jury or a Manslaughter conviction for Jodi.
    1st Degree and 2nd Degree murder should both be off the table. I also don’t see an acquittal happening although that would thrill me to death.
    Anyone that doesn’t see the incredible amount of reasonable doubt in this case should never be on a jury.

    • I’m worried about a hung jury too.

      If that should happen, will it take years for them to try Jodi again? I assume she would stay at Estrella in the meantime?

      • I think they get 2 years to regroup , maybe find new witnesses or go over the evidence and expose the perjury or what ever they need that time for. But I don’t think Jaun will retry. If he loses this case its a HUGE hit to his career because of how HE played this game. I think if its hung his career stays intact and can then consider a plea due to the out come of the first trial. I think the family will ask for a plea to so every one can forget travis listening to 12 year olds and raping women. IMO

    • Isn’t that the truth Joe?
      With this much doubt HOW can they convict her of 1st, 2nd or even manslaughter?
      The only thing that comes to mind is she was defending herself.

  193. So check this out lol…I’m having lunch with a group of women and I mentioned the Jodi case…omg I got horrible looks lol except one and it’s sad because the way they reacted was like they watch HLN. Thankfully I stood my ground and told them my point of view and what I believed in. Jodi is innocent.

  194. Yes, Nicole, we all are, and its horrible when things make you jump. I’ve been known to jump out of my skin when the postman breaks the silence and bangs mail through my door, so I can empathise, its very stressful.. all I can say is try to laugh, distract yourself, we’ll know soon enough.. see the ABC news page–plenty of dimwits there!!! 😀

  195. One of my cousins is so close-minded that he won’t even discuss the facts about JODI’s innocence. I have tried several times to explain the facts to him and he won’t even be reasonable enough to listen! In fact he went so far as to say that he didn’t want to hear anything from anybody that’s defending that bitch! Well I told him to kiss my ass and rot with the rest of the Turd Alliance! (PS He also thinks CA is guilty)BTW he’s tried to contact me several times with his narrow-minded views and I flat out told him to fuck-off!

    • Good for you Duke.
      I had to laugh .
      But at the same time “What a damn shame.”

      If they just are open to listen to you a minute, like my son-in-law, most of the things that I told him, he said OH I DIDN’T KNOW THAT!!
      So my guess is IF he had been on the jury OR even watched the trial he couldn’t convict her.
      Most don’t know a damn thing

      The idiots outside the court house are there for what reason??
      Assholes they want to hear DP.
      How can they be human?

  197. It seems that they’re taking so long because of gridlock I would guess….hung jury. probably around suppertime.
    Maybe in such a case they might round more evidence from different sources.

  200. Just heard on HLN Jodi has to sit in the holding cell with nothing…no notebook, no book, nothing

    How is this humane? She hasn’t been convicted!!

  203. I have been consistently reading your website here. Reasonable doubt is all over this case; 1) ME lied and perjured himself on the stand 2) Flores perjured himself 3) JM has lied over and over to this jury and tried to hide the truth from the jury. It happened just as Jodi said – Travis attacked her and she shot him first not intentionally but was hoping to stop him – it did NOT incapacitate him – ME stated the dura mater was intact – this is NOT a typo. He is a lying corrupt witness and the jury knows this. Travis then continued after Jodi in a rage and she went into life saving mode to save her life – it was going to be either his life or hers. Now about the so called premeditation “evidence” – hair color, gas cans, gun – the hair color is nothing – the jury won’t even consider this – Jodi clearly already had brown hair before June 3 as evidenced by several photos- the jury can not say beyond a reasonable doubt that Jodi stole her grandfather’s gun – do they know about the rash of burglaries in that neighborhood around that same time? and why would she purposely make a record of the theft – this makes no sense – the gas can – this one is very interesting – it was NOT a gas can it was a KEROSENE can – these are two different items at Walmart with two different SKU numbers. Now why would Kirk Nurmi not bring this to the jurors attention – I believe he let JM go off on a tangent about a GAS can and bring in the Walmart employee that had searched for a GAS can – this is why he asked no questions of this witness – KN is confident that this is an astute and intelligent jury and that they will see that is was not a gas can but a kerosene can and they will have doubt as to whether or not there was a proper search done for a record of a return of a kerosene can. Bottom line is you will not send someone to death row with all the reasonable doubt. Jodi will be acquitted as I believe that there are a least a couple of jurors that are steadfast in their belief that the state has not proven their case and have not disproved that it was not self defense. Jodi will be acquitted and walk out of jail after 5 years of imprisonment.

  204. I never watch HLN but I’m home and was watching about the 3 kidnapped girls.

    VP and BK were now talking about how the jurors questions did NOT seem pro-pros and started listing a few. Then they were talking about the make-up of the jury could very well not be good for the pros. Talked about the juror who asked the question of Dr. Horn if the patients he worked with were dead or alive and BK noting this DIDN”T bode well for pros.

    Well they never had a case….lol. I love seeing the talking heads squirm.

  205. HLN’s mock jury reached a verdict…..hung jury.

    7 1st degree 3 manslaughter

    Wonder if Kermit is watching the talking heads.

  206. i think the jury have not agreed on the same verdict , thats why they are taking time .

    i dont even want Jodi to get manslaughter, i want her aquitted completely , i really hope and pray this happens , i want her to go home , see her family, its been 5 years .

    Please please be a smart Jury , use your common sense , she is not guilty. it was not premedited.

    • cont’d
      i only found out about this case in Jan 2013 , i had no prior ideas or bias .
      based on everything from opening statements –> closing statements , the prosecution are just speculating.
      ive spoken to so many people who say ” hellooo shes guilty ! no doubt about it ”
      so ive been using this example , a hypothetical here,

      you are at a store and there is a small lipstick in your purse , you get arrested for shoplifting
      a-you could have put the lipstick there
      b-someone could have put it in your purse
      c-you could have bent down and it accidentally fell in
      d-its yours you bought a few days ago and havent opened it, just left it there

      what im trying to say , we cant assume everyone is guilty !
      why are people so close minded these days ?

  208. Hello Peeps!! I had to run errands and try and get my mind off this WAIT!!! I’m glad it is taking a while, because that could be good for Jodi, but you’re KILLIN me smalls!!

    I gotta jet to school soon, but I’ll be back tonight to talk some more smack, and I swear, If I get a text that the verdict is in in class, I’m grabbing my books and RUNNING to my car and STRAIGHT home to watch LIVE!!! LOVE you all SMOOCHES!!!

    God! You guys are the smartest bunch I have EVER had the pleasure of being part of!

  209. Good evening everyone,

    I am a former police officer and appalled at the HLN coverage of this case. After reviewing the evidence, in this case, I believe that a conviction of manslaughter would be appropriate. I suspect that the killing may have started as self defense that escalated to manslaughter. I base this opinion on the number of wounds, as well as the history of abusive behavior exhibited by TA towards Miss Arias. Both the chest wound and the throat wound were fatal wounds. The gunshot would not have incapacitated as the prosecutor alleges. In self defense, you must stop when the other party is no longer fighting. Additionally, that kind of throat wound is not defensive in nature. I believe a fight started and Jodi lost control. Premeditation makes no sense at all and is contrary to the evidence and common sense. Thank you for allowing me to share my opinion.

  210. ED I agree with what u have said, I cannot believe the viciousness of our civilized country, They might as well have burned her at the stake. There had to be a definite reason for her to do what ,maybe she had to do. I believe that no one should die in such a manner, but I feel like something is missing. I too hoped they would give her Manslaughter. I guess they had to appease the mob outside. Now she wants the death penalty. I don”t want this, I wish that if a person would get life in prison that there would be made a productive stay to help the prisoner and the community, so the tax dollars would be used in a good way .Thanks for the information and your response should be sent to the defense attorney.

    Sue M

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