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Happy TGI Friday peeps!
Following yesterday’s mistrial, leave your comments & general observations below on this never ending fiasco.
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A status conference set for June 20th. The penalty phase retrial set for July 18th.
Fuck the haters and the bad acting money-grubbing inbred meth-head loser family.
And just in case anyone needed reminding…
We are here for the long haul.
We are proud to stand behind and support Jodi Arias.
Always have done.
Always will do.
Nothing will ever change that.
WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS in our quest for JUSTICE FOR JODI.
NEVER DOUBT IT FOR ONE SECOND…
SJ
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Yay. I am happy. Finally some justice. MISTRIAL all the way. She has never had a fair trial from the start. People need to do interviews nationally with Gus Searcy. He is Jodi’s best defense.
OH HOLY NIGHT THE STARS ARE BRIGHTLY SHIIII….NING THIS IS A NIGHT OF OUR DEAR SAVIORS WORTH, LONG LIVE JO DI WHOSE GRACE IS EVER SHIINING….THE JURY HEARD AND THE LORD KNEW HER WORTH….THE THRILL OF HOPE A CLEAR AND GLORIOUS VERDICT… AND YONDER WAYS TO HLN TAKE THAT…..
DOWN ON YOUR KNEES OH NANCY JANE AND LADY WITH BAD HAIR…..
OH NIGHT IGHT DIVINE OOHHH NIGHT OH NIGHT DIVINE….OH NIGHT DIVINEEEEE OHOHOHHO NIGHT OH NIGHT DIVINE…. GOODNITE Y’ALL
awesomeness.
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Tanisha’s criminal history…
Felony burglary
Grand theft
Possession of controlled substances
False impersonation
Shoplifting
Giving false ID to police
WOW!! I didn’t know all that?!?!?! Good Morman huh?? SICK
I cant believe all those charges, why didn’t they come out earlier? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Funny how that has not made the news,
what does her criminal past have anything to do with this case? I don’t think any of their records have anything to do with this case, If Travis had a criminal record, I would be very interested to know that. BUt his siblings why does that matter?
Paul, feel free to in hide your name for all of us to see…please! Include an address?
**un hide…
There are probably a few thousand “Paul’s” in Santa Rose, CA….
Just sayin…
The only reason Judge Pickles got choked up was because things did not go the way she wanted for Juan Martinez. She was a real piece of work!!!!!
The judge always tells the ones in the gallery to show no emotion. If they felt they would to leave.
DO you know her family probably was told that OR wasn’t even aware it was a verdict.
Someone screwed her family over. Everyday her Mom was there and Jodi was looking for her. They always wait for the families to get there, I don’t care how long it takes and her family wasnt even concidered.
This the end of this circus saga.
Are they actually saying July 18th for the next?
Same judge, same detective, same prosecuter, ONLY different jury.
BUT, they have to believe everything about the premeditation??
Lyla I agree, I wrote to Gus right after he tried to testify and I thought he stood up to the hln haters to the that he could! He had the courtesy to write back and thank me. All he ever tried to do was to help Jodi by trying to tell the f’n truth but of course the rat face wanted nothing to do with the truth.
Stood up to the haters the best he could ( its getting late, i must have drifted off mid-sentence)
Dearest Jodi..
I feel for you. For some reason that is known only to me, I understand you. I wish this would have never happened because of your beauty, your talents, your enthusiasm, your intelligence, and most of all, the potential that you have to share and give to others.
No, I don’t know you…but there is something about you that I can empathize with.
Protect yourself where you are and wherever you go.
I understand that you are not an evil person nor are you violent….I get that….I get that there was something…just something that made all of this happen and when you are in the middle of it most times its terrorizing to go back but you have to keep moving forward….(sigh)
ok….enough of that…..I just want to say that I am sending you positive energy and white light and I support you. You are cared for.
take care girl!!
I agree, HLN and Juan really threw him under the bus. I hope some of these competitors on T.V. realize that people want to hear the other side of the story. I thought Gus was very upfront and honest. it was terrible what they did to him. People want the truth.
Do they want the truth? Not from what I saw at the courhouse yesterday. WE want the truth. They are villagers with pitchforks.
With apologies to Klaus Nomi:
“They can’t kill her! They WON’T kill her!”
Jennifer and Nurmi, you helped save a life! 🙂
HLN need to “Get over themselves” they are acting like a bunch of disappointed vultures who didn’t get blood! I was originally on the Prosecution side (lack of knowledge) but Jodi has conducted herself with the most composure and class than anyone in the court room!
Unfortunately, it’s only a mistrial in the penalty phase. That means they will select a new jury to decide on her fate. If they can’t decide then the judge will.
This does not mean there will be a new train to decide if she was guilty or not.
David, are you sure that the Judge can decide her fate? If so why didn’t she do it on this mistrial? I am not being snotty, I am just asking a question, I don’t know the law very well and that does not seem fair, are you sure that’s what happens?? Thanks for the new lesson learn something new everyday. I am hoping that you are wrong, cause I do believe the judge is bias.
I agree Lyla Rose. Pretty name!
We love you Jodi. We are looking for people who support Jodi Arias to join our group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/jodiannariaspositivesupport/?bookmark_t=group or email me @rgftown1@yahoo.com to add you.
Second!!
me third…
Just watched the video again and I can not stop crying! It’s a long road. Stay strong Jodi!
not this time, fuckers! I am not going to talk to myself on that other thread! lol
Sil ((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))
VICTORY today for JODI….. I am so pissed that her family wasn’t there….. What a crock of SHIT…
(((((FUJuan))))
This weekend we need to get together to work on the letters, k? If you have time that is…. =)
And yeah, that was fucked up. They could have waited for them to get there. I’m not certain, but someone posted that they had told them that jurors had submitted another question and not that they had reached a verdict. :/
That’s what I heard too……..
I can help with the letters, tomorrow or on Wednesday…. I am going to the beach with my daughter for a 4 day girls getaway….
Okay. Tomorrow evening. I’ll send you an email. Yay!
Thanks Sil………….. Just include directions with the emails so I know what to do with the letters………
Letters? Ok maybe I missed something. What do you need me to do. I support Jodi
Yes, No way…
We’re trying to put together a massive letter writing campaign to send to anyone with ears who can help us stop this travesty. We also have one of our friends chris writing to influential people on behalf of Jodi. Also, other posters have come up with excellent suggestions. So there are many things being done and we want everyone who wants to participate to be able to do so.
Ok Count me in.
Sil,
Yes, count me in, too. I will seeing this through until there is JUCTICE FOR JODI.
Count me in too.
Sil – please let me know what I can do.
Include me……. I’m will to help Jodi if my opinion count for something…………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
me too please. Jodi is being used as revenge for Casey Anthony verdictn. last night on after dark a stupid bitch said she cant wait….next jury will be one of “us” and will have seen this monster on tv. Will give her what she deserves.
wtf is wrong with people???
ive never seen anything like this.
I saw that last night it was dispicable. Everyone on that After Dark faux jury should sit there w/pitchforks instead of those stupid yes/no signs. they are all so heartbroken that four brave jurors decided to hold their ground.
Another thing I love is how it was FOUR people and not just one lone holdout. That was of course the speculation on the HateLN and Vinnie P looked ready to choke when he had to swallow that fact that it wasn’t just one person who thought Jodi deserved to live.
btw there is one clip from yesterday I can’t get enough of and could watch on a loop its little Kermie sitting there after the non verdict with his little frown and his hands folded in front of him.
To those 4 Jurors, a HUGE THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. You had courage and stood by what your heart wanted you to do.
omg I saw that too. He probably went home and kicked something. Why would anyone want to have his autograph or take a picture with him? Weasel-rat
I agree and am sure they would be the first in line at a public hanging for goodness sakes! They are venomous monsters.
Please count me in!
I would love to help. I have plenty of time so anything you need, I will help.
Please post the info so we know what to do. Count me in!
Sil, I want in. if he had killed her the prosecutor would be using all the evidence Jodi used against him. The HLN ass wipes are saying she won I want to ask what did she win? If it were a true victory she would be home on time served for manslaughter crime of passion.
PLEASE COUNT ME IN TOO ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP. TEAM JODI ALL THE WAY.
Me too. I want to do whatever I can to help Jodi.
Please post who and where! I will send one to everyone! This trial should be the example for the future of what NOT to do and make it illegal!.
count me in also, I want to help
Count me in I will dedicate my spare time to help Jodi,Anything it takes.
I’m in, whatever to help JODI…let me know when & where…hopefully the next jury will be more openminded & see what this trial was really about…if you’re going to bring EVERYONE’s past up then do it with all parties…it’s like hearing about a Catholic priest molesting a child, don’t want to believe it but it happens!!(Regarding to TA & his “issues”)….at least the Jury was FINALLY correct with a hung jury! Jodi, I’m sure you didn’t want to let all “that” out but you can only be responsible for so much..just saying. Hopeful & Happy for you that you finally caught a break in this thing they call the justice system…stay strong and sane woman=-)
Sil,
Please get my email from the moderators. I want to be a part of the letters and anything else.
Thank you
Marianne, are you the same as the 3n’d Mariannne? Just wondering, since I’m seeing both in the same thread for yesterday.
Sil,
Right, they thought it was another question.
I’m more than pissed at AZ now.
Her Mom and family would have wanted to be there.
Something is very strange in AZ.
LMAO…no talking to yourself—we are here!!! I have four words for all of this:
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!!!!
I would not be surprised in the least if this whole thing gets thrown out down the road no matter how this next phase ends up. How the hell is she going to get a fair and impartial set of new jurors? There aren’t any in Arizona or anywhere else right now.
Did you hear what the Judge from New York was saying? He said it would be unconstitutional if that were to happen. He said they should make a deal and forget about DP.
I agree Sil, they should of taken the deal a long time ago… but the Alexander’s are a pathetic bunch that wanted to watch Jodi get the ” needle” ( quoted from Tanisha)….
Then you have JUAN who’s on ego trip… trying to climb the ladder…… FK U JUAN!!!!!
It is not good for Jodi to take any plea because she will lose the right to appeal the entire case!
Justice was served now its time for HLN news to accept the jury made there minds up not to come to a conclusion.I am so happy for Jodi and that face on Martinez was freaking priceless.STAY STRONG JODI you have all our support.
I love that Seidlin — he was the only one that HLN allowed to tell the truth now and then!!! Take your marbles and go home! LOL
I loved when he said that! 🙂
Screw a DEAL. I want to see her walk.
He is saying that because of the financial end. Although he is a bit more understanding judge.
But the truth is she never had a fair trial. Jodi needs manslaughter and needs to walk for time served.
Thank you for posting this ……….I accidentally turned my wi-fi when they were getting ready to ready the verdict and missed it………… Then had to leave for a meeting.
Okay, so Jane Velez Mitchell called us a bunch of conspiracy theorists a couple months back, when we demanded to see proof that Travis’ criminal record was bogus.
But now she is saying that the hung jury is a result of…
Wait for it…
#StephenAlexandersDramaticPause…
Subliminal messages from Jodi Arias.
That’s right.
Instead of accepting that there were members of the jury equipped with a CONSCIENCE that do not kill because the media says they should; JVM chooses to believe that Jodi used hoodoo or some kind of magical brainwave telepathy to stay the juror’s hand at the death penalty.
For fuck sakes, Jane, GMAFB. I have read a lot of weird stuff, but that is the STUPIDEST conspiracy theory I have ever heard. It plays right into that backwards, fundamentalist mentality that women have magical powers to snare a man. Oh bullshit!
With women like you, who needs chauvinist pigs?
I think the ALCOHOL has really affected her brain……….. and her fake FK teeth….. !!! How anyone could wish death upon someone should rot in hell themselves.
Seriously JVM you need therapy, maybe you should make appointment with Dr. Drew…! 🙂 ( who by the way is not licensed to practice psychology). Hasn’t HLN killed enough people…. Dr. Drew and Nancy Grace……… pity on your fk -ed souls.
In order to see both sides JVM and the rest of the HLN crew you need to interview both sides…. this isn’t a one way street…. !!!!
I thought JVM was going to explode yesterday, she was wound up scary tight.
And omg, chasing down that juror, that takes special sociopathic skills to hound someone like that.
She is a vegetarian, too, like several of the HLN peeps are, yet they are championing for the DP.
She is a vagaterian too! lol
And I agree about her brain being pickled! I have witnessed the severe personality changes in loved ones.
Even if they are now sober their brains stay damaged and can be proven with brain scans. Scary stuff.
I cringe whenever I see her fake compassion come across her face or hear it faked in her voice.
She and the others are enjoying being cruel, i sure wouldn’t want them chasing me down the street! Yet they are against animal cruelty???
JVM is shameful – to basically say that this outcome was because of Jodi’s looks and the unconscious at work??? Excellent point about alcohol damaging her brain. I’m sorry, but I know many noble men who do NOT think with their dicks…
I would have told Jane, “Look, Jane, not all of us are dildos with heartbeats.” That probably would have shut her ass up. 😉
LOL Have any of you watched Helter Skelter about the Manson Family and the killings they did. Well while in the court room at trail the prosecutor looked up and saw that Charles Manson was staring at him and then he looked down and his watched stopped. The media back then claimed that too was subliminal messages. LOL
You have got to be kidding me?? They are scrambling over there like crazy!! Just did not go their way so they have to create new material!
No worries they have the trial in Florida and they can get a spin on O.J. ………… Guess they are out to dinner with the HUGHES trying to come up with another plot on how to get to the next jurors……. If the court is smart they will not allow cameras………… unti lt’s over… Guess time will tell
I can just see the little minions running around scrambling to schedule their next blood sucking sessions now that “the end” did not come the way they planned!!!
OMG..NO WAY.she said that.?? #1. She would have used her “powers ” long before this. LOL Like in not getting Pre-med.
These people really need to go home now and rake in the $$$$ that HLN has been begging for for them.
Jane Velez Mitchell is a troubled and damaged woman
who is a Nancy Grace wanna-be.
There is a special place in hell for both of those bitches.
Amen.
Agreed
Hell hounds!!…
Fuck no,the devil wont want those fucked up bitches down there,they are more evil than he.
At this point, I don’t put anything past JVM [FUCK YOU HATERS!] I saw her chasing that juror all the way to the bus stop, panting like a [FUCK YOU HATERS] a fish out of water! [FUCK YOU HATERS] She looked so pathetic. 🙄
MB, I hope my subliminal messages get through somehow. =)
LOL@ SIL I SSSOOOOOOO LOVE YOU!!
I was watching CNN as Anderson Cooper was interviewing Jose Baez and Mark Geragos about the hung jury. He interrupted them for breaking news footage of JVM running after the juror. His comment was” well that wasn’t worth it and she was harassing the juror” with much disgust in his voice. When he said it, I was shock that he had been so candid. Wow, he certainly told it like it is. Also, Mark Geragos said “this prosecutor is out of control and someone with a cooler head needs to take a look this case”. Jose said there is much evidence for appeal due to social medial and how Jodi could not put on any mitigator’s due to outside pressure from social media. He stated he has the same problem with CA but not to this degree. Good interview.
I hope more attorneys and legal minds weigh in on this case nationally.
Yea but why didn’t the two of them defend the case all along. Everyone was riding the coat tails of someone else on HLN. People want to hear both sides, not the trickster JM. CNN has always carried more class than HLN. They are more balanced at CNN.
When I say dependent the case all along… I mean on the talk shows.
HLN is affiliated with CNN…. Disappointing….
Jose Baez would be a great member of Jodi’s team going forward.
I would rather have Joan Baez than Jose Baez.
LMAO
Good to hear. People with common sense.
Speaking of witch, JVM is the one that looks like a witch and a vampire. With the ugly face and bad hair do. Maybe she doesn’t make enough money to go to a decent hair dresser. I’m a hairdresser, but not even for a million dollar will touch that witch’s hair. Even when she speaks, she sounds like if she’s possessed by a demon or something. I’m so glad that she didn’t get the satisfaction of drinking poor Jodi’s blood. Well, not only her, everyone that was thirsty for her blood.
I have noticed recently that JVM, Beth K, Jean C, and Nasty Disgrace, and I’ll lump Vinnie P. with these biatches too…they don’t look like they used to when the trial began.. They look so horrible…lol!
Vinnie looks like a fucking ghost…Jean Casarez looks like she aged about 10 years. Beth looks like the guilt is eating at her soul. Nasty Disgrace looks plump…I guess she does thrive in the misery of others.
oh and Dr. Drew’s little whore, I think her name is Katie something…she’s gained a few pounds it seems. I guess since she hangs out with the Alexanders, she gets to eat really well on the dime of the 50K psychos who keep sending them money. 🙄
Back in the old Court TV days (90’s) Beth Karas was a fine correspondent. Probably the most fair one they had. Nancy Grace and her prosecutorial bent was even a breath of fresh air and balance in those days of CTV’s defense lawyer talking heads.
Today, things have now gotten out of hand, obviously. I think Beth K. actually has a conscience and I know she a fine knowledge of the law. It’s the money. NG is incorrigible. If I heard correctly during the trial, this may be Beth K’s last case. Anyone know?
Beth should write a book.
If Beth still has some semblance of ethics and self respect she needs to GTFO of there and try to find employment somewhere else where she can learn to respect herself again. I really used to like her a lot. I used to like Jean too, but not anymore. She’s a pushover.
They are sooooooooooo DRAMATIC!
They make Ru Paul’s Drag Race look like The Waltons.
As this trial progressed, it became apparent to me that all these pundits,
I won t even call them correspondents were following a company line.
They very rarely mentioned Jodie s family who will never stop suffering as a
result of this incident. Constantly pandered to the Alexander Family and what
they were doing and “how badly they felt”. Promoted Travis to sainthood, even
though he certainly was no choir boy. He treated Jodie terribly. If she were my
daughter and I knew what was happening, I would try to keep her as far away as
possible from him.
I believe that if a station is commenting on a trial 24 hrs. a day, they should be
fair and balanced
Agree. HLN is very bias and still is. Why can the not find on person who can relate to what has happened to Jodi and what could cause her to do this (murder is wrong but she is clearly no a person who would kill for no reason ) I keep watching HLN but it drives me crazy. Vinnie just said she deserves to die. How can any good person say that?!
Sorry for the typos!!
LOL!
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes, I thought NG was once more fair and balanced back in the CTV days. I actually once admired her. Everyone around me knew I liked her. Now, my friends look badly that I liked NG. I keep screaming I can’t stand her now and this is not who she started out as.
I had begun to doubt my own judgement….could she have been like this all along and I didn’t see it? THANK YOU for saying it. She DID start out half decent…but she has gone to hell….and I’m now embarrassed that anyone knew I liked her once upon a time. . She sickens me.
I just hate it when they find a missing child and she yells “There is a God”….does that mean when a missing child is found dead…there’s not a God? She pushed that one mother…… who’s child went missing and she accused the mother and badgered her on her show… to commit suicide. Yes, Nancy, there IS a God…..and one day you will meet that God. I don’t think God will be too pleased with your behavior.
Her and JVM….they SCREAM the news one sided…..THEIR side. Who needs screamed at. Just reminds me of control freaks who think the one who is the loudest is the one who is right.
I regretfully say I TOO used to be a fan…. my husband ALWAYS hated that I liked her,…. he ‘s sooooo happy now that I saw? the light?…. That’s what I call her now…. WITCH! HLN doesn’t care if they are hated…. as long as we tune in to HLN…. We need to BOYCOTT HLN>
Boycott the sponsors……no one knows if you are watching her or not. unless you have been called by a pollster. contact the sponsors…..that would have the most impact.
I am making a list of HLN sponsors. I am boycotting them and writing to their sponsors.
yes what she did to Melinda Duckett was so horrible…she pushed her to commit suicide…I quit watching her after that show…it was like she smiled and kinda laughed and went on with the show after they announced that she had committed suicide…and NG didn’t think she said or did anything wrong…she is so evil and wicked…
I think this was the case where the family sued NG and HLN but they settled it our of court. There were two lawsuits I think.
I hate when Nancy Grace screeches, then does that
dramatic pause…..then talks in that sinister fake
hushed undertones that say “I have sympathy”
It’s pretty unnerving and hilariously campy all
at once. Someone really needs
to kick this woman-beast hybrid off the air.
She is the worst, why anyone would want
to be a guest on her show is beyond me.
I fucking can’t stand her!
You once thought well of Nancy Grace because she came onto the national scene during the O.J.Simpson trial and you PROBABLY thought he was guilty. So you agreed with her then…..that’s why you liked her. But she was never any different then…..her head just grew and grew because she got more famous on Court Tv with Johnny Cochran. There are an awful lot of haters out there who obviously can’t think for themselves and they have made her into their savior. I have however, heard more people here in Atlanta say they hate her and can’t stand watching her than the opposite.
I think Jean and Beth have a little guilt thing going on. Too bad they are connected to HLN. There also were a couple Judges throughout the case that have been on HLN and state the truth about the relationship between T.A. and Jodi as abusive and toxic. Not everyone is a sell out but we know GLORIA is a big sell out like the rest or HLN. Mark, the defense attorney, what a dick. The human lie detector, Genine, what a load or shit.
It really would have been cool if HLN had a defense attorney on, a real one, not like Mark, who could have been on the show defending the defendant the entire time. What a crock.
Also want to say, I would not accept a plea for life with no parole and no appeals. People need to know the truth. Finally, can anyone explain to me why Jodi has to be in 23 hour lock down because she is in the penalty phase? Even if she gets life, why the 23 hour lock down? Is that temporary?
The 23 hour lock down is what she would get if the sentence were life. She goes to max security and for at least 3 years that would be her security level. Murder 1 is high security until they prove themselves able to step down. It would be her security level for life if death were the sentence. No matter what the sentence, for at least for 3 years that is her life now. She is awaiting sentence but was convicted, so no longer considered innocent. So she went to max security until transfer to max security in prison.
For every bad or negative thing that they say about Jodi…the evilness of their words is coming right back and eating them alive on the inside…it will eventually consume them and they will all die…hmmm…
The Human Lie Detector on HLN said that Jodi was lying about TA after the issue of “young girls” came up on the stand. HLD was very certain about Jodi “lying”.
Soon enough, the “phone sex” recording was presented as evidence. Human Lie Detector got it wrong.
I had watched Jodi very carefully on the stand and didn’t know what the HLD was talking about as to Jodi’s supposedly lying “body language”. Nothing really changed in Jodi’s demeanor when she spoke about that, EXCEPT that it was clear to me she felt uncomfortable answering that question about TA.
When I saw her discomfort, I believed her position in wanting to plead to M2 in order to avoid such testimony.
There was so much that the HLN troop got wrong night after night but they plowed ahead as if their lives depended upon it. Sick and horrid. It was Jodi’s life that was and is at stake, not their new car or condo at the shore.
Beth is just as bad as the rest of them on HLN. If you look at the Occupy HLN Facebook page, you will see her posing for pictures at the dinner she shared with the likes of the Hughes and Travis’ old girlfriend. She is in bed with all of them and they are now all good friends.
She shared dinner with those???
Ugh, she’s on my list of dislikes.
I know one day she was really feeling so sorry for the ex girlfriend, talking about such a nice girl having to answer those horrible questions.
Jodi, A VERY nice girl had to answer worse ones and Travis wasn’t a virgin like he LIED about.
Talk about dirt bag.
In fact I can’t stand anyone on In Session, except, the ONLY real defense attorney and he speaks on HLN too Dwane Cates and Jane Paule
The rest sold their souls.
How can all of the defense attorneys take the proscution side?
What happened?
I wouldn’t want ANYONE of them to be my defense lawyer.
Nancy Grace used to be very good as an analyst, but now she puts the “anal” in analyst. Nancy Grace is about as genuine as the breasts of a “Baywatch” actress. If she had been around at the time of Christ’s crucifixion, she probably would have been a huge fan of Pontius Pilate.
That little bitch Katie Wick can’t friggin stand her and when did she suddenly become a resident member of the Alexander family? I guess her saying she was “impartial” for all those days on Dr. Drew were utter bullshit (no surpise there) because now she has gone from the defendant’s side of the courtroom to having a seat right there with the family and the media sluts row of Hughes. Speaking of the Hughes I thought Skye’s face was going to melt off when the non-verdict was read.
Did you notice how much weight that Katie Wick put on over the last 3 months? Boy, she must have really been chowing down on HLN’s dime to have packed on that much in just 3 months.
She definitely has packed on the lbs. I read a post in this thread that referenced her and some other court vultures took the Sisters Grimm out for a day of pampering manis pedi and dinner yet she daily appeared on Dr. Drew with this falsehood that she was impartial. GMAFB.
and look how HUGE that Deanna is…she looks like an elephant when she sits near the other women….
Lol! Sky’s face did look like it was melting, She actually looked like she was melting. SOOO Funny!!!!! I thought the same thing.
I gave Beth and Jean too much credit. All on HLN are merciless. …. and ugly. Katie Wick was never unbiased like Dr.Drew made everyone believe about HIS jurors. We never got any unbiased content from her. Katie said she was going to lunch with the Alexander family in one of the shows, the whole thing was a lie. One big witch hunt that honors men that treat woman like whores, uses the Mormon faith to pick up vulnerable women, lies to everybody he is around, likes to make woman fight over him, and uses his job as a motivational speaker as a way to manipulate vulnerable woman into the bedroom, and clearly prefers anal sex because of deep seeded pedophilic issues that he had within him. This explains why the could not commit to I one woman and lied to everyone, It explaines the fantasy of a 12 year old. There is no way to say this but to say it…. I believe when men have the fantasy of having sex with a school girl, it is more like a 16 year old, who is “naughty” , yet “young and innocent”,….. . Yes, it is still too young but the fantasy eludes that she is naughty and wants it, therefore it’s ok. When you start to bring ages 12 or younger into the bedroom, you can really kill the orgasmnof your partner. Now you fantasy is sick and preverted. I believe Jodi caught on a little to late that she was not T. A.’s sexy lover, but in fact an object for his sickness. There was something wired wrong with T.A.
I do not condone the terrible manner in which T.A. died but I do understand how it could happen and why it happened. I believe Jodi had to defend herself on the day he died, and I believe she had to defend herself from the cult of weirdos that praised T.A. and fell for all his lies, directly after the incident.
How can anyone praise a guy that mistreated a young woman so terribly? It is one thing to voice positive qualities within a human being that has passed on, but to ignore that his actions were less than perfect, is just very disturbing. I do not beleive a man of good character would mistreat a woman like he did. He was not all together and Jodi needed help. It is very disturbing to see and hear Dr. Drew condone such crewd behavior from a man. What on earth are they at HLN teaching our young people. ?
now Sky really looks old and ugly in the face…
just thinking how the evilness in them is manifesting itself in their looks and they areall looking more like the wicked witches of the West…
Sil, I noticed that too last night! Honest to God, at first I thought that I was seeing things! JVM especially, but the one guy (Galanos?) did you notice his bottom teeth looked like a shark’s: like three rows deep. Each and everyone of the HLN tribe looked so creepy last night. I truly believe a miracle took place on tv last night, as if God, by this jury “non-verdict” and the chaos it would temporarily generate, lifted the veil of “legitimacy” off of those evil, hateful, wrathful HLN people and their sick, awful minions. They were revealed for a few minutes for the demons they really are inside. I live next to a church, and on Memorial Day weekend the church carillon plays patriots chimes. I was thinking of the hateful wrath the HLN demons have set upon the earth, and the carillon started “The Battle Hymn of The Republic”; “Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of The Lord. He is trampling down the vineyards where the grapes of wrath are stored”. Our Merciful God will not be mocked. HLN is going to reap what it has sowed.
I also noticed the weight gain on Katie and the teeth thing. So true, they were exposed a moment. I noticed it.
The devil wanted to be seen in those evil people
The devil was seen!
Good fucking grief! If Jodi has that successful use of magical powers I wish she’d put a hex on all those morons and make them all disappear! 🙂
LOL @ MB = “With women like you, who needs chauvinist pigs?”
Isn’t that the truth???
And transport herself to Greece to live happily ever after. lol
NNNOOOOOO! Don’t send her to Maria! Send her to Thailand to the red light district to be pimped out!! That’s all that Whore is good for!!!!
She did, they have all grown colder and uglier than ever!!!
in a few more months….they’ll all look like a bunch of hags…with their sleeveless dresses on and their sagging arm skin showing…ugh….
😀
Hate and jealousy make you ugly on the inside and OUT!
I swore I saw horns on NG.
LOL. All she needs is the pitchfork. 😉
Wow. Jodi must be a very powerful being if she was able to do all these things they accuse her of (which included):
1) Predicting the future – she new when she was a child she would meet Travis, that is why her journals never showed any history of anger or violence – she knew she’d need to show that she was a sweet little wallflower one day.
2) Subliminal messaging – well gosh folks, I wonder why she did not use the powers to get the verdict she wanted from day 1.
No it was the French woman friend of Travis with her low cut bosses and breasts exposed that was predicting everything. LOL!!!! HLN is so two faced. Dr. Drew kept bringing her on and she kept telling her predictions…. Lol… Everyone is looking for fame. Abe, all the time on Dr.Drew, why? What on earth did he know? Just an asshole.
I hope they all go off the air for their slanderous, riot seeking, constitutional abuse of the right to free speech, and their extremely, obviously, direct interaction with Juan M . Throughout the course of the trial, Juan was advised on many, many, many things and he brings them into court as his own, but go back and watch the tapes of the shows, particularly Nancy G. and Dr.Drew, as well as the trial. The whole case, right from the start, was unfair and Jodi should get a whole knew trial.
Low cut blouses!!!! I hate typing on an iPad!!!
You all are hilarious!!!!
I love you guys 🙂
And I Love the hell outta you TOO!!
She just taking her marching orders from Nasty Dis-Grace. Dis-Grace is the big cheese on HLN, because of the ratings she acquires by making a living off other peoples misery. Jean C., Vinnie P. & even Beth K.are all afraid they’ll lose their jobs, if they disagree with the Blond Witch.Since In Session is slowly going BYE BYE, whatever Grace dictates Goes…OR ELSE! Now that Judge Seidlin wrote the article on the HLN web-site criticizing Jude Pickles incompetence, you’ll probably never see him on that network again.
I’m referring mainly to JVM
juggler…
enjoy this music video…the mouse and cheese…hilarious…LOL…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz3EiYOejPk
even a big cheese gets squashed…LOL….
LOL!!!!!
JVM is from Puerto Rico… she knows about Voodoo if nobody else does… not to say all Puerto Ricans worship Voodoo…. but that’s why she is so ready to say such SICK stuff!!
The impression I got from JVM was that she was implying the men on the jury were thinking with their other head.
Yes, our Jodi is incredible powerful. I know what they say on hln is ridiculous but I am taking some enjoyment in the power they are accrediting to Jodi.
I cannot say I full heartedly do not support the idea of the DP in certain circumstances. Serial killers, spree killers, child killers, serial rapists, sadistic masogynistic murderers…those are a few examples of those I would have very little reservation at the notion. We all know this trial should have been about, we all know what the outcome should have been. I hope all those out for vengeance learned or will learn a valuable lesson at some point from the dark murderous thoughts they have… They are the only ones guilty of premeditating a murder…or at the bare minimum conspiracy to commit a murder.
Yup.
Good job jodi keep up the good work, fuck all this bullshit trial…… It’s been a mistrial from the beginning
I’m on the east coast and have followed Jodi. I’ve prayed for her. I was excited until
I saw Jodi’s face. I dont know her but she was either crying or had been it broke my heart
Please tell her people do care about her. Travis’s family and the crying & sad faces when
they see a camera on them makes me want to puke. HLN makes me sick as well. I am so
happy Jodi wouldnt talk to them.
Love & Prayers
Tami
Really, Really messed up, the court purposely did not notify the Arias family, SO SAD!!!! then NG cops an attitude to Jodi’s twitter friend. JM will never get a DEATH VERDICT!!! !God oversaw the verdict.
I was wondering why the family didn’t show…
how disgusting of the state of AZ to do that. >:(
I don’t know who is to call who when the family is to return back to court for the proceeding but it was stated that someone told them it was just a ” juror ” question… Then BIG MOUTH CASH said on his twitter page that the Arias were on vaction at the GC. Give me a fk break you sick fk pig CASH…. Money grubbing mother fk-er who tweeted for more money before he even got out of the courtroom…. He would sell his soul to the devil if he could make millions………… and Beth C. shame on you for having dinner with this fk-ed up cult………Judge Sherry, you are a disgrace to the judical system letting your emotions show today….. get a back bone …
That show of emotion for WHATEVER THE REASON OR CAUSE was UNACCEPTABLE!!! That alone should get her sanctioned. And the poor Arias family not being told to return to court is EXACTLY THE EXAMPLE to show the bias, kangaroo court for what it is! That judge should be begging that family for forgiveness for her cold calculating heart!! I am ashamed!
The emotion shown by the judge!
Yeah can you imagine if Belvin Perry did that in the CA case? Really unprofessional along with many of her other questionable rulings this whole case—biased much? Even JM sat there like an expressionless toad as he should.
HAHAHAH expressionless LOAD
I’m glad you mentioned Judge Perry he was in total shock at the verdict yet he didn’t let it show he was a professional. Judge Stephens showed her bias again who gets so emotional like that what’s next she goes over and hugs the Alexander family. What gets me is the woman clearly has a bias and yet she is still going get to preside over the next round of the penalty phase.
Judge ‘Pickles’ Stephens is a rank amateur
& is quite frankly, an embarrassment to our
system of justice.
I noticed that too. The judge is reading, then pauses and I was thinking to myself is she crying???? What a bitch! Way to go Arizona! The whole system there is corrupt. Thank God for the 4 holdouts. They would not budge! Hallelujah. We Love you Jodi!
I couldn’t believe how the court reported “stumbled” on the words she was reading because she was SO ready to say DEATH…. and not what was actually on paper…. that was so obvious! anyone notice that???
I barely caught what the verdict was as the court reporter made a mess of the reading! I think others looked a little confused also as to what she actually said. Sad.
Judge Sherry was a huge factor in Jodi not having a fair trial! Very sad!
FUJuan-
Hughes doesn’t have to sell his soul to the devil, it already belongs fully to Satan
That judge’s tears spoke volumes. Those tears alone should be a legitimate basis of appeal. Obviously tears do not lie. She was biased from the get-go. Only a total moron would not sequester the jury in this case. She committed reversible error even before a single person took the stand. What an idiot. Where the hell did she go to Law School? The Van Nuys School of Law and Air Conditioning Repair?
Could there be anything that the defense could do ,as far as an appeal goes, based on the judge’s obvious bias? I never saw her face on camera, but I sure heard the emotion in her voice. Very unprofessional.
That was really disgusting, JM having revenge?
Welcome back SJ or at least for this post. I’m mentally exhausted though today was a victory for real justice. Not vampire revenge.
“Fuck the haters and the bad acting money-grubbing inbred meth-head loser family.”
I hear that SJ!!!!
Yeah they’ve been begging for donations non stop since the non verdict!!!! Boo hoo gravy train might end!!!
It should end. There is no reason why they can not go back to there lives and there jobs.
They can now go back to their lives of petty crimes…
Even dumb Disgrace told them to go home, hahaha! Go home? What? No more early morning beauty parlor visits? They won’t know what to do with themselves! But there’ll be that empty chair, ya know!!
They are greedy hell hounds ….satan’s minions, don’t be fooled by the grieving family and friends, they are in it to the last penny……like to slap that stupid right off their faces!
Can we just give a shout out to the Mitagator lady… I think that she has done an incredible job. She may have helped Jodi during her allocation and I feel that she strongly believes in Jodis Innocence. She wore a Crucifix necklace representing Jodis sacrifice and she is Brown and Lord knows Im down with brown. LOL. I am a cute latina lady myself and I strongly believe that Jodi has been railroaded and harrased one because of her beauty and two possibly because she was a minority women with beauty and intelligence up against a Mormon Man…God forbid she should be right… For those of you that are not aware of Mormon beliefs cultural ways…. Women are 2nd class citizens oh by the way Im a catholic living in Utah….. Men are Patriarchs and hold all power… three…. to be dark in the book of Mormon is to be evil…. They only started letting black people in the church until recently….Just think Warren Jeffs yah the FDLS well that faith stems from Mormonism……she was on the wrong turf here…. I just wish America AZ could see that religion has played such an integral part of this and that this all be reversed in appeals…. It would make the rest of us in similiar situations here in Utah feel heard and also….. my brother before I moved here warned me that Mormonism is the anti christ…so I personally know tons of great mormons but the bad ones who use religion to manipulate and take advantage are the worst of the worst…wow this is just so twisted and Im sorry. But today is a great day… We prayed we were heard… we will continue to hope…FAITH LOVE HOPE we need all three… AMEN
You hit it on the head with that 800-ton elephant in the room, Mormonism.
It had everything to do with this overcharged fiasco and the death threats against witnesses.
Mitigate lady rocks!! 🙂
If what you say about Mormonism is true that we all ought to be wary senate majority leader Harry Reid. He’s a Mormon in case you did not know.
Of course I know he is Mormon, and so is the other senator from Nevada, Dean Heller. I used to live in Nevada for 26 years and am well aware of the large Mormon population there.
The anti-woman beliefs of the church are true; the Mormon church was instrumental in defeating the Equal Rights Amendment in the early 1980s because proponents couldn’t get enough states to ratify. The main holdouts were some of the deep South states and the Mormon-dominated states like Utah, Idaho, Nevada, and I believe Arizona.
Not all Mormons are black-and-white thinkers, but far too many of them are.
I’ve met Reid, and he is a good man despite his personal religious beliefs.
I seriously doubt he’d approve of this witch hunt in Phoenix.
Well at least there aren’t any Mormon suicide bombers.lol
LOL Tony, don’t give them any ideas………..
I doubt they would go that route. Sex with 72 virgins in heaven would be sin to them.lol
Tony,
Jennifer is looking for you…………..:)
I don’t know if I should be happy or scared.lol
You knkow someone said that it would not surprise them if one of them set all this up b/c of politics… and re election…. ??… at the time I didn’t know they are mormon… I also find the fact that the blood atonement for sex sins is a knife in the heart and slashint throat. That is standing out to me for some reason along with several other things. how did she move his heavy weight by hersellf? and a few others but it is late and I don’t remember them all right now. …. Thank God for the outcome today. I hope everyone has a nice weekend.
That’s it for now… Amy
I have been wondering about that through the whole trial. I was hoping that SOMEONE might bring that up. I really wonder if when Jodi started telling about the two intruders that that was her way of trying to say that members of the church came in and killed him to save him from his sins by the doctrine of blood atonement. If it is true, it will eventually come out. The truth always does eventually.
Go Sara!!!!! There are many different ideals or religions that stem from the FDLS….who we all know Warren Jeffs did molest children…both boys and girls. Mormons…and Polygamy..etc. I have read up on Prepaid Legal…and it’s a scam. Google “Prepaid Legal is a scam” and read some of the stories. To succeed in that just shows me Travis was a good manipulator.
Not putting all mormons down.. every religion has it’s bad seeds… but it surprises me how some of these Mormon based look for a way to scam to make a living and try to call it legit. Look at the Sister Wives…selling green health juice and ugly overpriced jewelry online while we all know they are getting tons from the welfare system. I ran across a sister wives site recently and it’s all about putting Jodi down.
Oh Sara, as a brown girl myself, thank you for saying what I’ve wanted to say for awhile. Even if someone didn’t know Jodi’s racial makeup, it’s very easy to see she’s “ethnic.” I think this pushed some over the edge (how dare this not-purely-white woman do this to Travis?!!). They call her trash but I think they wish they could throw a racial slur out there. And someone had the nerve to say if Jodi was a minority she wouldn’t have gotten away with it.
Gotten away with what?! She was given a first degree murder conviction and railroaded by an out of date and out of touch Maricopa county. She had trumped up charges and a noose was waiting in the wings, courtesy of HLN, CASH and the Alexander family.
As much as I hate to use the “race card”…. I believe all this hatred and unfairness is due to Jodi being half Mexican…. Wake up Martinez… you’re next under the BUS, you actually think the public will love you for ever? Did anyone notice the DEEP RED his face turned when the “NO verdict” was read?
I am white, and I COMPLETELY agree that a lot of the hate stems from Jodi being minority. The Mormon cult is racist as hell!! It IS true that they did NOT allow blacks to hold any position in the church until the 90’s!!! THEN you got the MOTHERFUCKIN state of ARIZONA who are PROUD racist’s against Latinos!! Those fuckers can pull you over and ask you for your PAPERS if you look Latino!! I am surprised this hasn’t been discussed more.
I am married to a black man and I am very hesitant to pull the race card, because even though we know racism still exists, I don’t want my kids to expect the worst out of people. But in this case IM PULLIN IT, and I won’t apologize!!
+Kmiller: haha! I agree 100%. I HATE pulling that damn card out but sometimes it has to be slapped on the table. I’m in an interracial relationship so I understand completely.
Oh Juan’s turn is coming up very shortly. The problem with passionate (CRAZY!) people is anyone can receive their wrath. They’re already saying he wasn’t “driving it home” enough. If he offers Jodi a deal (which she will reject of course), they’re going to crucify him. I know race is still a very touchy subject but I believe if Juan was sitting at the other table the TA supporters wouldn’t be so loving. In fact they would probably be nastier than usual. Jennifer Wilmott is cute as a button to me and they call her all sorts of names and Nurmi is a sloppy, fatass in their eyes.
YES!!! I think she has a lot of dignity , just as OUR GIRL does….. no eye rolling, head shaking, or fake emotions like the WICKED SISTERS! MY best to her for taking care of OUR GIRL in whatever way she was allowed to do so. THANK YOU!!!
gotta esp. give kudos to jennifer wilmot!! 🙂
think SHE was the difference. she stepped it up and seemed to really care about jodi.
no offense to kurt n., but… jen rocked! and was more consistently “on”.
I agree about Jennifer but Nurmi did step it up at the end like he was suppose to.
Yes frank, I think that question that Jennifer said to them stayed in their mind the whole time: “Would you Kill her”? Great Job!!
(((((((((((((defense team)))))))))))))))))
They went above and beyond the call of duty.
Like Jodi, I am grateful for them.
Dido
Yeah, I really think Jennifer should have done the closing or at least both of them take turns, I love Nurmi but I just didnt feel it was powerful enough and there were so many missed things that could have been said like we discussed last night.
I have to disagree. I think Nurmi did every bit as well on this case as Jennifer. We have no idea the time and effort he put forth on her behalf. and he deserves the credit. I thought he was great.
They are already suggesting the jurors didn’t do their jobs, calling them idiots, etc. Umm, so I guess if they are idiots, then they can’t be trusted on their guilty verdict and the whole damn thing should be thrown out!
yep!
and hln aren’t sure who to blame right now. god forbid they find themselves to blame in this.
lil juan will want to spend more million$ of taxpayer’s $$.
give it up juan a b…
some ppl think jodi is smug? nah… lil juan? HE is smug to me…
It was nice to see his ass put in it’s place today. Hopefully it deflated his ego a little.
He really looked like the little runt that he is!
😀 Yes he did. I can’t say I’ve hated anyone but I hate him, he’s pure evil.
Hey Heather1! How’s my Brit with true grit?:-)lol
LOL yeah very good point
I agree. Let’s toss the conviction and set Jodi free, if they think the jurors are idiots.
I wholeheartedly AGREE MB.
Disgrace last night said that all jurors should be left alone by the public , they were doing their duty…. then she added something about, of course we can’t help that some were not equipped to come to a reasonable conclusion. Don’t recall how exactly she put it , but she was instigating a “witch hunt ” for the jurors that didn’t want DEATH> And this women is given air time to start a RIOT…. that’s so wrong!
I agree Mary,
I agree with the one that said boycott.
Start with NG.All of her sponsors.
She is a threat and danger to society.
So now, a whole new trial in July? Or a new jury just for the sentencing phase??? I’m sorry, I am kind of naive about this stuff.
Just the sentencing phase.
Which, in my eyes doesn’t fare well for Jodi. The new jury won’t get to hear the mitigating circumstances brought out in trial that Travis was a complete ass – unless she is called to testify,but even then they won’t be exposed to some of the circumstances that may have lead 4 jurors to say life.
How the hell they think they will find a fair jury at this point though is beyond me.
Let it continue and go on! That is what appeals are for.
Not only that, they want to make sure the new jury will not oppose to DP due to religious believes or anything else. They want to make sure they believe in DP. I don’t think is fair.
Not only do they want the jury to not oppose the DP.
The ones that voted for life didn’t believe it was worth the DP, so why didn’t the 8
compromise for life.
They want a jury that they KNOW all will have the DP verdict.
This is nuts.
No, they will get to hear all of it. That is the thing with the new jury, they will have to hear all the facts of the case, and it is going to take a while to bring them up to speed – that is what I understood.
Judge Sherry needs to get off of this case. I have said it before and will say it again, she needs to go!!!! A judge is NOT suppose to be pro prosecution and a judge is not suppose to let there emotions show in the courtroom neither. She is the one that did not let certain things into evidence and she is the one that denied an immediate stay when it should of been granted. I do not know why the D.A. and judge are so surprised.
I agree, let her warm a bench somewhere else. This is life and death. We need a judge that takes her job seriously, not winging it and not giving a shit about defendants. Oh I’m sorry… defenDANTS.
I love it when you defeDANT! Where are they going to find a jury that can be trusted? If Pickles doesn’t sequester this next jury panel then she needs insanity testing.
Well how do we get rid of her? Is it possible for her to recuse herself? JVM actually opened her mouth to say Stephens was fair and impartial. Her Botox injections must be 25% whiskey.
A petition? She has got to GO.
Afternoon all 🙂
Afternoon Heather! Has anyone started one? If not I’ll definitely do it. I’m not sure of it will make a difference, but it’s better than nothing.
Afternoon Jennifer! Its actually now nearly midnight.. AGAIN, damnit! 🙂
50%. She’s a screaming nut.
Poison?
Then no more defend-i-ant 😀
I cried when I heard the news! 🙂 At least some of those jurors had some sense. JUSTICE FOR JODI!!
up late again 12:25 in texas let us not forget this verdict came at the help of the prayers we said yesterday my Hail Mary and saying the Rosary and reading a lot of prayers that were posted we now need to thank them for the miracle they have given us for if it were not our prayers being heard then it would have gone the other route with the mormons praying kill her
Amen!
Yes, Thank you Heavenly Father!!!
This is one sick pup ” CASH” …………. how can you in your right mind keep asking people for money…..THE TRIAL IS OVER ” CASH” UNTIL JUNE and that is just a hearing at 8:30 am…. next phase in JULY 18…………..
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Chris Hughes@cshughes18s
@junipherbreezy @lezliestires @mallorybrasher8 State vs Jodi arias page on Facebook or http://TravisAlexanderFund.com Thank you!
Chris Hughes@cshughes13m
@lezliestires @mallorybrasher8 Coming soon. We want to raise more $ for the Alexander family. Thank you!
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They probably do not even see any of that money neither. He probably puts most of it in his pocket. That is why he kept changing the domains to try and make the trail harder to get back to him.
Exactly….. The address in AZ is linked to UPS store…. The paypal account is linked to CASH HUGHES as a merchant account which is directly sent to his bank account……….!! FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD
I agree! I would not be surprised if one of them was behind that fake ass Kavonna page that was asking for donations and saying it was going to Jodi to try and get some of us to donate.
This link connects all the key players in the TA family and Hughes SCAM.
http://www.occupyhln.org/jodi-arias/state-vs-jodi-ann-arias-con-artists-exposed/
Please repost so others won’t fall for this SCAM. Thanks.
Thats not right! Yohoo IRS!
That fund is run by Chris Hughes. Tanisha is also taking cards with checks or PP on that facebook page. Its all about money and thats all they care about!!!!
Oh forgot about the checks and cards and cash being sent to Tanisha in CA, they also have money being sent to COLORADO… it’s just a matter of time before they get busted by the IRS and the FEDS…..
Yes, they do. They have more than one also. They have any address and then a PP account. Hughes has an address and a PP account. Why do they have to have all of them that is all for the same cause. I will tell you why, so they do not have to claim all of it and pay taxes on it.
I wish the best possible outcome for Jodi.
@ Sara, love your little song!!
All the haters are having their little tizzy fits on HLN. Love it!
Kind of enjoying it…….their hissy fits!!
GAG, OMG, He makes me want to vomit………….
Chris Hughes@cshughes4m
I so love & appreciate that the judge had 2 pause, 2 prevent herself from crying, when releasing the #JodiArias jury. #SheGetsIt
Doesn’t he “get it” that that is NOT supposed to happen? And is he so sure it’s because she felt “bad for them?” Talk about self centered! Maybe she was emotional for the jurors time spent!! Either way IT WAS UNPROFESSIONABLE!
barf!!!!!!
Is this a hint at the $$$$ paid the judge off
@JoeyJacksonEsq @sabot269: Excuse my language but Jodi Arias is nothing but a Fame Whore!!!!!
This S.O.B is on the mormom cult too…….. and unprofessional.
Oh? And what the hell are you exactly, Joey? Asshole.
He is nothing but a big mouth with no brains. He should be ashamed of himself for talking about anyone like that. He is a classless, shallow, ugly moron.
He was even asking people to send them donations on HLN when he had Hughes on the show. He is just like the liars.
Out of all the men that spew their venom on HLN…He truly disgusts me. That freaking toothy grin looks oh so unholy… *shudders*
I don’t know if this is coincidence or not but since some have been complaining about all of the accounts that they have and the fact that he was promoting donations to be sent to Hughes’s link he has not been the main anchor on a HLN show. I know, I do not have live stream so I have to watch my trials on HLN.
he very well might be. The other day I was just listening without looking at the tv and his commentary went beyond hln host . . he was fired up and vile . . scary and enraged. I thought there’s something wrong with this person, he needs to be removed or cut to commercial. ng and jvm are bad but it was what jj was saying . . the words were demonic.
seriously, that Joey Jackson is a real piece of work…scary scary scary…He’s reminding me of CASH more and more every day.
JJ creeps me out with his slicked hair and too-many-damn-teeth grin. And he is ALWAYS flirting, ring on his finger and everything. He really hates Jodi, always has. How a defense attorney can be so one-sided is beyond me.
This is a mormon trial. UGH and no one takes any notice at all in the court, its shoved under the judge.
Joey Jackson
called her a famed whore??
Not surprised, how dare him.
I hope he is fired over it, ANOTHER defense attorney? DAMN!
I say in his case it takes one to know one.
He’s all over HLN like a groupie at a rock concert. It’d be funny if it weren’t so pitiful.
Joey Jackson needs to shut his annoying piehole and go back to doing commercials for AFLAC. Oh wait, I’m sorry, that’s Gilbert Gottfried! Well, I still think Joey Jackson needs to shut his annoying piehole! 🙂
Fuck you Samantha Alexander. Such a faker.
Forgive my ignorance, but is the judge crying for the jury NOT giving her the DP?
Who really knows.
that is what it seemed like to me.
She has been so partial to the prosecution.
Yes. She’s been biased from the beginning. Apparently all the judges in AZ are pro prosecutor
Sickening.
Right, mommabear. Who really knows.
I AM SO HAPPY WITH WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY!!!
THAT HAS GOT TO RIP THE GUTS OUT OF MARTINEZ,
NANCY FUCKFACE, ALL THOSE HLN ASSWIPES, THE HATERS,
AND ALL THE VINDICTIVE ALEXANDERS & KLINGON FRIENDS…
PUT THAT SHIT IN YOUR PREPAID PIPE AND SMOKE IT…
HAHAHAHA FUCKING HAHAHAHA… I CAN’T STOP LAUGHING!!!
JODI WINS!!! HEHEHEHE… AND SO DO WE… FUCK THEM!!
IT’S A BEAUTIFUL DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD…
DON’T STOP BELIEVING 🙂
lmbo, that was the first time I have seen him sit there and look like he did not want to get up and had nothing to say.
I wish someone would make a gif of Juan’s reaction and put it on tumblr. I would love to re-blog it. Absolutely priceless!
He should be brought in front of the bar for what he did to people that wanted to speak on Jodi’s behalf and for how he acted in the courtroom but that is just my opinion.
That’s exactly my opinion too, Tina.
I posted one yesterday. Do a search of my user name. I don’t want to keep posting the link.
Me too, wish some one would post his raving RED face ….all that’s needed are the HORNS!
You said it, Mary!!!
I hope Jodi will one day be allowed to receive letters. I have so many things I want to tell her. She has opened my eyes to different things. I took what she said about making sure you document what is happening to heart. I’ve begun writing in my journal so much more. I’m not in a relationship right now, but my ex was emotionally abusive (as I’ve mentioned before), but I didn’t write about it in my journal much. Mostly because I was in denial at how I was being treated, but also because it was not something I really cared to remember or re-live by writing it down. The memories will always be there though, so why not? I did write a lot of what he did to me down after we broke up, but now I make sure to write as things are happening. You never know if it might come in handy. I’ve also always been interested in art. I really suck at it, but I do like to draw sometimes. I have a drawing book and oil pastels that I think I might get back out soon. It’s been a long time since I drew something. This was my last oil pastel drawing. It’s nothing special at all because I’m no artist like Jodi. It’s supposed to be a sunset over water. lol http://i.imgur.com/akeSvak.jpg
I like it Britney!!
I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure she can receive correspondence. What I really want is for her to be free some day. Tomorrow would be nice. =)
Jodi can still receive post cards. I use to document to years ago when I was going through that but thankfully I was left alone and got with my husband who is my heart.
I was emotionally abused too. I am now 42 and it has taken me all these years to finally believe the bad relationship wasnt all my fault. My ex was a sales man too, I tell ya they all alike (well except Gus and others I am sure) but we came from an abusive background and I think when you are brought up with a father that undermines your mother and abuses her, it is harder for us women to recognize abusive treatment. All my sisters married into abusive relationships, (one of them to another sales man) and my mom use to like my ex over me, to this day she doesn’t understand what abuse is, neither do my sisters really, they have treated me abusively. It is sad, we are conditioned by this treatment and sometimes we can be both victims and abusers because of it, or one or the other, but it affects us regardless and it only changes when we are willing to take real hard honest look at it, but society is still in so much denial. Best of luck to you Britney!
So do I !!
Britney, your art is wonderful and your posts are always great to read! 🙂
“The panel then filed out of the courtroom after 13 hours of deliberation that spanned three days, with one female juror turning to the victim’s family and mouthing, “Sorry.” She and two other women on the jury were crying.”
Just read this on a news site. Should the jurors be communicating with the Alexander family?!!!!!!
They can talk to whoever they want once they judge excused them.
But surely this is evidence that they were swayed by the emotions of the family?!!
Karin Padron How many funds are there? I see “memorial” “legacy” and countless more. I don’t want to donate unless I know for certain where the donations are going and to who. Thanks
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Lol’s, even there supporters are starting to question it!
People aren’t as stupid as CASH would hope. It’s hard out here and people aren’t giving a dime unless they know where said dime is going. It’s only a matter of time before the lid is blown off of their scam.
HAVE YOU HEARD THAT SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO IS NOW PUTTING JODI IN
HER OWN CELL ISOLATED 23 HOURS A DAY, JUST LIKE SHE WOULD BE
IF SHE HAD BEEN SENT TO PERRYVILLE TODAY?
THERE’S ANOTHER MEAN OLD MOTHERFUCKER MAKING UP HIS OWN
RULES AS HE GOES ALONG, JUST BECAUSE HE CAN… BASTARD!!
Dear Barbara…I have been drinking…Please stop shouting at us! lol
Barbara,
That just didn’t happen today, that happend after the verdict of M1…. and she has two guards outside her door…. And Yes, Joe Arpario is a mother fucker………
Hi Barbara,
CAN YOU PLEASE NOT TYPE IN ALL CAPS.
Thanks hon 🙂
I saw that about the Sheriff too. The media said they put a BAN on media interviews too. They don’t want potential jurors to be influenced. This should also apply to the Alexander family, Hughes, and rest of that scamming bunch. ( not to mention HLN)
I thought that was for people on death row! The 23 hrs. of isolation, I mean. Anyone know about this for sure?
That’s disgusting, I’d stick him in a solitary cell for life, feed him bread and water once a day. Then I’d take him into a padded cell and let the prisoners on him.
Please to the 50K Travisites…donate donate donate…or the poor Alexanders are gonna have to cut down to just 2 mexican maids…Oh the horror!
First of all, not all the sibilings need to be in court everyday……….. they should be home taking care of there children….. and motherly duties.
it’s all about money…. they are getting a free ride from the state………. free condo, free food, fk greedy pricks……… guess they will have their criminal fines paid off in no time…
Either that or save all of that money from donations for a lawyer the next time one of them gets in trouble.
They are not as innocent as they wanted the jurors to believe. They are far from it.
In the words of Flava Flave,”YEAAAAA BOOOOOYYYYYY!!!!”
BASS! How low can you go?
LOL.
Omg, I used to JAM to that song! Lol! 😉
My mom is so cool, she asked me about the trial (since she has not been following it) and I started to explain the jist of it to her and before I even could finish she said,” OH HE HAD IT COMMING HONEY!” and she is in her 60’s! I thought that pretty much summed things up! BIG GROUP HUG TO YOU ALL! Love ya! Jessie
Ohhh, I love your Mom!!!!
I told her, and mommy says,”I love you too Penny!” Smooches to you, Jessie
Awww, thanks Jessie!! xoxo
It has been a long wonderful day today good new for Jodi but I can see why she as not smiling she has to do it all over again I just hope they can bring in new evidence that will shed new light on the charge of M1 well its time for bed I my get a good nites sleep this time with out nightmares to all my family and friend here lots of love and sleep good to-nite Jodi you have a room of your own and maybe it will not be so loud tonight
Are my two favorite men EVER still on here?
Jennifer,
(((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))) please read the vent page on what I have written tonight… plz
FU JUAN both you and Sil knew who I was talking about. LOL
I noticed that Juan was doing no autographs today,laugh my fucking ass off.Today justice WAS served.
Nice to see all this support for Jodi.I honestly think Juan has a personal hate on for Jodi and would inject her himself if he could,thats what made the verdict today even more gratifying.
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HA! That’s some funny shit right there!
If the case goes to appeals, I might have to make a career out of it. Thanks, Jeff!
SarahP- I remember you from before. TROLLL!!!
You don’t read very many of my comments, do you. Stop calling people who are different from you “trolls.”
saraH P How do you know what Audrey does or doesn’t read? And your comments are reflective of a troll.
Audrey I too think that SaraH P ( THERE saraH P I remembered the H) is a troll. It shows in those hateful parodies that she does.
Really Jeff you thought THAT was Funny to MOCK Jodi’s pain? I love you honey but damn that “parody” was distasteful as hell. Jodi is probably still crying her eyes out and here on a page to SUPPORT HER someone mocks what she is going through.
Sorry, Jennifer. My bad! I was kinda putting it to the tune of TNT by AC/DC. That’s what made me laugh. My apologies. No disrespect intended.
That’s alright Jeff I knew you didn’t lose your sense for long. I still love you. I just have been learning so MUCH that has not come out that I feel like a stick of TNT ready to BLOW!!
😐
SarahP…I don’t meant to be bitchy, but I don’t like to make light of the traumatizing experience that Jodi went through on that day with Travis.
That’s just me, though.
Shit SIL there we go again I was writing a book and just at the same time you posted same thing short and SWEET!! That is why you are one of my FAVORITE MEN!!
ahahahahahah!!! Just spit beer all over my keyboard!! lolololol!
LOL I want a BEER I have never been that mean to anyone on the public forum. I usually save that for late night “private” talks LOL
Well you’re you Sil and SarahP is SarahP I guess.lol One song that comes to my mind when I think of Jodi killing Travis is The End by the Doors. The part near the end where Jim Morrison is saying, “Kill, Kill, Kill………” I always think of Jodi stabbing Travis when I listen to it now. BTW, I’m a HUGE fan of The Doors and Jim Morrison.
She did not kill travis
Sara P I am sorry but I think that was very distasteful. It is as if you are mocking the fact that Jodi is where she is and what she had to do. If you KNEW Jodi you would know that she would also say that was distasteful. She didn’t kill TA because she WANTED TO, she didn’t kill TA because they had just had sex, or because he slept with other women, or even that he had an inkling for little boys, not because he was taking another woman on a trip,(a trip she didn’t even WANT to go on), or that he had verbal degraded her, Jodi killed TA that day because she HAD to. For the first time in their relationship she fought back. She didn’t intend for it to end the way it did. She just wanted him to stop HITTING her. She didn’t wake up that day thinking OH TRAVIS IS ALMOST DEAD I’ll let him shoot one last load, that is a very nasty thing to say. I KNOW you all will be shouting that I am NOW A TROLL> But no I am NOT A TROLL never have been and never will be. I am the same compassionate person today as I was the day I started posting on this site. A man is day and a woman I can about and I know many others on here do to is FIGHTING for her life. Tonight is a sad night for Jodi and you are making light of it all with a PARADY This is not a skit from Saturday Night Live. This is Jodi’s reality, her future, and you are mocking something that was a very traumatic experience for her. SHE LOVED this man. I know many times I have said comments about TA but nothing distasteful like that. Everyone SAYS they are here for Jodi but laughing at that is NOT being her for Jodi. Mocking her life is far from BEING HERE FOR JODI. I am sorry if this comment offended you or anyone else NO REALLY I AM NOT SORRY that I said it or felt it just sorry that you felt the need to mock or laugh at something that has caused so VERY MUCH PAIN for TWO FAMILIES!
Exactly! Jodi had to do it. Her very liberty was at stake and Jodi had to take extreme action. I’m sure some of you have heard the saying: “Extremism is the defense of liberty is no vice!”:-)
I will never ever forget the words she said while pleading to the jury to spare her life. It tore my heart out. Imagine if that was your baby up there and how hard it was for her mother to sit there and look at the 122 people that may be her daughters “MURDERERS”. When Jodi talked about never being a Mommy and not getting to touch her nieces and nephews I thought of my own nieces and nephews and how much I love holding them and then I thought where would I be without my kids. They taught me what true love REALLY is and Jodi may never experience that. Those words she said just further lit my FIRE. I will fight for her till the day she is home with her family and is able to make her dreams come true.
((((Jennifer)))) Loved every word.
Thanks sweets (((((((((my little sillie)))))))))))) LOL LOL LOL
Jennifer,
First, I respect your reply here and I certainly meant you no harm. I like reading what you write here.
1. I’m not mocking anybody – I’m dealing with the same stressful issues you are.
2. I never implied in that song that Jodi wanted to kill Travis.
3. You said: “She didn’t wake up that day thinking OH TRAVIS IS ALMOST DEAD I’ll let him shoot one last load, that is a very nasty thing to say.” That is completely out of context with what I wrote.
4. I am NOT making light of this “sad night” for Jodi. I believe you are overly sensitive and missing the entire point of this.
5. I am slinging a little shit at Travis the way MANY OTHER PEOPLE HERE HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO, I’m just doing it in my own way.
I am not good at dealing with intense emotions, and for me, creating some laughter out of a situation is the way I can do it. Again, I intended no offense to you or anybody. I’m behind Jodi the same way you are, promise.
Sarah!
I just took it as mocking. I just watched Jodi cry and I kept rerunning her words as she pled for her life over and over in my head. I love Jodi like she was my sister.
No I am not overly sensitive. I am just thinking and looking at it from Jodi’s point of view. She still loves that man regardless of what he did to her or what she had to do. He I believe was her first real love and as she has said She NEVER wanted to Air his dirty laundry. You are taking something she HAD to say in trial and making light of them.
I know others have said hateful things about TA also and IF I read something and it hit me like this did I would call them out to. IF you were dealing with the same stressful situations I am then you wouldn’t be “Writing LITTLE songs” as a woman is FIGHTING for her life. I would use my time to HELP JODI, not making up a little ditty.
Jennifer: Thank you for this nice reply. My humor is far removed from the “real-life” circumstances. Try to see it for what it is and don’t see it for what it isn’t. The “Almost Dead” song was a song about a woman-abuser. Period. And I know Travis for what he was. It had nothing to do with Jodi’s pain or her angst or her current situation.
Sarah!
And Sara I truly did not mean it in a hurtful way towards you. I just know that no matter what you always have a place in your heart for ur first love and when Jodi talks of TA she lights up. I have heard two different interviews with two different friends of TA and they both say, “Jodi was anyone that TA wanted her to be.” I took that as back up as the abuse. She loved him so much she altered the person she truly was to please him.
Well, either way, you got my song deleted, so I guess we’re back to square. I might do my next one about Juanito, and we’ll see how far that gets me.
Sarah!
(with an “h”)
I DID NOT get your song deleted!!! More people were offended then just me by that song. Contrary to your beliefs I do NOT tell admins what HAS to be taken off. They have a brain of their own and felt the song was rude. Just because people didn’t say it to YOU others have been offended by the tasteless parody’s you do.
In fact you got your song removed by being HATEFUL towards Jodi and mocking the events that led up to her FIGHTING for her life. It is comments like your parody that feeds into the haters bull.
I am sorry but it is very OFFENSIVE to ASSUME that the admins removed that BECAUSE I TOLD them to. In fact I did not say a word to any admin. I said my thoughts and feelings to you and left it at that!
OOHH sorry SARAH!!!! And spare us DONT write or “DUB” another song about what Jodi is going through.
Sarah, Jennifer did not get your song deleted. No one person got your song deleted. I got messages from several people, so please don’t blame any one person or assume that it was removed out of malice. I’m sorry if that hurt your feelings, that’s not my intention. Thanks for understanding!
She was crying probable because her family was not in court
Many thanks to the four jurors who had the decency to stand up against the blood thirsty, and biased jurors who shamelessly apologized to the Alexanders.
Yes at least 4 people have a concience
Wow…Samantha’s face when the verdict was read….WOW it’s almost comical when she does that, it looks so FAKE. Just like TA she is playing g a role and trying to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes & sadly more people fall for it than don’t.
What in the world was up with the Judge having to choke back a sob because the jury didn’t come back with DP???? That is insane & makes me wonder if there is more to the story other than an extremely biased judge (the sorriest exscuse for a judge I’ve ever seen by the way)
Maybe the judge was threatened by the Mormons who told her if Jodi doens’t get a DP sentence she’s gonna be next …hahah kidding ..kinda.,,but that was really weird & hopefully it will serve as further proof of the Judges bias in this case…
Judge Pickles running this trial was the equivalent of me running General Motors. Within four days I’d have the process so fucked up, no normal person could recognize it as an auto maker. People would be looking at it and saying, “What the fuck???”
One more reason for mistrial on appeal.
The thing that really gets me is how much HLN and Nancy Grace always praise the justice system and say how great it is.Then when it doesnt have the outcome they want,the system is broken.Now to me thats fuckin nuts, just like the HLN gang.
Round one to team Arias.
She was staring directly at the camera when she did that too. And I love how JW looked at the Judge when she paused.
okay…Must get some rest. I’ll be seeing y’all tomorrow!
(TEAM JODI FOREVER!!)
I truly believe that while the defense works on the “new penalty phase” there should also be a team of attnys hired to work on the misconduct and appellate issues and get it started before a new jury is even chosen in other words “shut this circus down before it starts again” work on freeing Jodi ASAP. I am willing to help pay for another team of attnys to get the appellate process going but only the best appeals attnys will do. MB….can you pass this onto SJ and Jodi’s family etc and contact me to get this going??
Sure no problem! 🙂
I have talked to SJ as have a few others and he is aware that we want to set up a fund for her appeals. Not sure where he is in the process but I know it has been mentioned to him several times. As you all know I have cancer and I have changed my will. I had a policy that went to my Goddaughter however she is no longer with us she committed suicide at 15 and I have talked to her Mom and the policy will go to Jodis appeals if I pass while she is still fighting. I also have many years paid into it and I am going to take that out as soon as the fund is set up to enable us ONLY the BEST!! I have talked to a couple and got some numbers…It will be quite expensive if we cannot find one to donate their time. Most do some volunteer hours each year it just depends on what else they have going on. And Jodis appeals are going to take up a lot of the attorneys time.
Oh my gosh I’m so sorry to hear about that Jennifer 🙁
I’m so sorry for your loss and your current illness.
I will keep you in my thoughts and heart! <3
Thank you MB. My Goddaughter was a wonderful little girl who was so fun to be aroundand so happy. But we lived in a small town growing up and her mom ( who was my best friend) still lived there with my Goddaughter her new husband and their daughter. Few people knew that my Goddaughter was conceived during a rape. Somehow a very hateful little girl who was jealous of my sweet girl because she was friends with everyone and they all loved her. So one day that evil child told my Goddaughter what happened and how she was conceived. This bright young woman who would of been an amazingwoman today began to hateherself and blamed herself for her Mom not being able to follow her dreams. So on Feb. 1at my sweet little Mel went to her room took a handful of pills and swolled them down with some alcohol and laid down in the same little bed that I use to tell her bedtime stories and sleep next to her when she was scared for the last time and fell asleep. There is NOT a DAY that goes by that I don’t think of her and how in the darkest Moment of her life she didn’t come to me to make her safe from the storm.
I’m so very sorry to hear that about your Goddaughter. That’s awful. You’re always in my prayers and I hope that someday you are rid of that terrible illness. Also, that’s an incredibly unselfish thing that you’re doing for Jodi. You’re a truly amazing person! <3
Thanks Jeff. I try to do unto others. There have been many times in my life when I didn’t do the right
and I regret them. I hope soon this nasty disease is gone. It drags me down and I hate to be down.
There is a poem and I don’t remember all of it but I think of it when I think of how Jodi sees the world. “Two women looked out from behind prison bars one saw mud the other saw stars”
I don’t want Jodi to ever ever see just mud all the time when she looks out. She deserves to see the beauty that is out in the world.
Jen..what a wonderful thing you are doing but my dear you are not going any place anytime soon. I feel your pai n as my beloved nephewtook his life 3 years ago.
Thanks Cindy!! I want to know that when I am gone someone is being helped and it will show my children that even in death I wanted to help people. I am so sorry to hear about you nephew. It is so hard to lose young people. I beat myself up still because I wasn’t there for her when she needed someone, then her mom my best friend since we were 12 told me, Jen she didn’t even go to her BFF. And then I got it but I still blame myself a lot.
Jennifer I am sorry that is awful…… I have a 5 year old little girl who is terminally ill and it’s difficult but the best way to get thru it is to pour the blessings we have received onto others who need them! Jodi needs us and I will be praying for you as well every day! Stay strong Hun!!
That’s terrible Kara 🙁
(((((((((hugs))))))))))) To you too <3
Kara I am so sorry. My little sister had a baby born with Trisomy 18 and he passed 49 hours after he was born she was 19 when she had him. The sister that I knew for 19 years disappeared the day he passed. She has never been the same again. She has never laughed like she use to, she is depressed a lot, the day my sister lost a son I lost a nephew and a sister. I see how she hurts to her soul and morns his death everyday still 12 years later. My best friend still morns my Goddaughter and drinks heavily to cover the pain. I turned to things to hide my pain after they both died.
I pray that you have support for you emotionally because having a sick baby is the worst pain aside from losing a child that a parent can go through.
I will keep you both in my prayers.
Thank you Jennifer, here is the thing……Shortly after finding out all of what my daughters syndrome consisted of and the life span that accompanied it I was very angry and would cry and think why me ?? What did I do to deserve this? I would lay in bed with her for days and not answer my phone or leave my house. It wasn’t until December 2012 that I had what I consider to be almost a divine intervention. My daughter had to have major surgery and it required us to be in the hospital for a week post opp. While we were there a little boy from Barcelona Spain was in the room next to ours and he had a very rare form of cancer and was taking part in clinical study of a possible treatment. We were at Devos Children’s hospital in Grand Rapids, MI. I got to know the family very well and we often spent time praying etc, that little boy passed away a couple days before we left and it was horrible but I learned a huge lesson that day and I haven’t been the same since. It completely made me change the way I felt, I realized that I need to be thankful for what I have and the time I do have with my precious little girl because it could be worst. That little boy was the same age as my little girl and that family doesn’t have any more time with their son. I realized there are people in worst situations and I need to be nothing less than grateful and I have not been angry (about that) since. Now I want to do everything I can to help others that are deserving to be happy and take away their anger and Jodi and her family deserve to be happy! Waiting on someone to contact me………..any news MB or SJ???? Hope sharing my story helps!!!
Oh that is sad. Losing a child has to be the worst pain. I volunteered with a woman who had lost her daughter who was a senior in high school. Her Mom went in one morning to wake her up and the girl had passed in her sleep. She had a problem with her heart that had when undiagnosed. The mother was telling me the pain she had from losing her daughter and asked the same questions you asked. Why me? Why her? Then one day while talking with their minister she got that augh ha moment. The minister asked if you could go back and change things knowing that you would lose her at 17 would you choose to have her? The woman said she thought and thought and then it hit her. She would rather have her daughter for those short 17 years and love her then never to have known her at all, I think that it is great what you want to do for others. I will pray for you and your baby everyday. There are so many advances in medication everyday, she probably happy life.will live a long
Jen as soon as I get my PC back I will respond to you on this.
I am glad that you are finally able to get that fixed I know you hate that phone. LOL
Jennifer,
This explains a lot. I guess it’s a lesson of not evaluating the “way” a person is until you know what they’re going through. I don’t pray, but I do believe in sending positive energy, and I will do that for you.
Sarah!
Thank you!! I am thinking we need to get this going ASAP! She should not have to suffer like this anymore, if I need to fly out to AZ (I live in MI) I will, but I don’t care about how expensive it is and we don’t want a half ass pro bono attny if they are not going to get the Proper job DONE…. ONLY SOLUTION ACCEPTABLE IS FREEING JODI. She was wrongly convicted and it is time we stand united and let Pedo hugging assholes know this is not okay. Jodi is the REAL victim here and with all the misconduct and issues surrounding this case we will not be bullied we will do what is right!! I’m ready, I have been blessed financially and this is my calling to help someone who needs it….and Jodi most certainly does!
Bless you kind heart Kara……………. It’s people like you that make a differene, and we are the VOICE for JODI.
She needs the BEST appeals attorney……… and not 10-20-30 years from now…. !!! You have a group of us that are ready for the next mission/ phase…. ( her appeal)… Please let us know what you need….!!
I have come to the conclusion that the Alexander family are exhibitionist masochists. They take pleasure from suffering in public which is why they choose to continue to do so. What happened to forgiving as best you can as a so-called religious person and letting go? There would be no story there for them to seek pity and wring melodrama from. They got a new drug and this time it ain’t meth.
Boy ain’t that the truth. Wow! I never thought of it that way. In the beginning I thought they were just a grieving family; I could deal with that, I could understand that. Then as it went along I came to realize that they aren’t grieving, they want revenge. They stopped grieving LONG AGO. Now they want blood, they want sympathy, they want attention, and, most importantly, they want dollars. Lots of dollars! And you know what? they’re getting all of that, except revenge. That is something they will never get. Ain’t gonna happen. So their story needs to end here, right now, today. I’m sure it won’t end just yet, but I do hope that they will soon fade away.
Gwen,
Yes, I think at least some of it is attention, but I really think their main goal in this is $$$$$. From what I’ve read, they’ve been100% financially supported throughout this trial, and basically waited on hand & foot-literally. (Towards the end of Jodi’s testimony, I remember that Katie-bitch saying that their “group” took the twisted sisters out for manis, pedis, shopping & dinner-you know, because they were so upset about the testimony). Put that together with their background…. Recipe for major “fraud” disguised as “Helping these poor tortured souls who’s lives are destroyed by the evil Jodi”.
They’re eating it up,..every penny, I’m sure.
Pardon me, I need to vent. Reading the comments after the hung jury in the penalty phase has me very worried.
Why are we here? Why are we on the ‘jodi arias is innocent’ page? Other than the trolls, I think we are here, because we believe Jodi is a victim of domestic violence and was fighting to save her life on that fateful day. We started with “how dare JM charge her with pre meditation”. Well, he dared and the jury bought it, that too unanimously!
When all this started, what did we think was a just verdict? What did we think was a just punishment? If I remember correctly, other than one or two who said manslaughter, we were all for self defense and time served. When the jury bought JM’s bs, and came up with M1 most of us were saying “it should have been manslaughter”. Now, today, before the verdict, we were praying that the jury not give her death. Why should we beg and pray for a survivor to live? That should be a given. This is USA, not a war torn African nation where justice is whatever a warlord decides it is. What has changed for us, from the beginning of the trial to now? Has the evidence changed? Have the facts about this case changed? Has our opinion about Jodi’s guilt changed? Then why are we begging the jury not to kill her and why are we thanking the jury for not killing her?
Today’s hung jury verdict was a victory for people who oppose DP and those people alone. Today’s verdict had nothing to do with Jodi, because a woman who tried to protect her life should never face DP or life in prison without parole. Don’t you see, Juan’s over charging is working? People who said- ‘time served’ is now begging for ‘life in prison’! If we loose focus, he will get away with it. Put a victim of dv behind bars for the rest of her life.
Now, we are hoping to get this verdict overturned on appeal. That will be a victory. But how long will that take? About 25 years? I would consider that life in prison! (legal eagles, if there is any case out there, where the verdict has been overturned quickly, please let me know). How is that justice? Jodi would have served about 30 years, for defending herself. If that is the case, then I will not consider that as a victory for Jodi, or that justice has been served.
For the very few posters out there, who watched today’s verdict unaffected, thank you for not forgetting why we are here and thanks for not being sidetracked by Juan’s smoke and mirrors. Everyone else, please let us not loose focus. Our goal should be to make sure everyone knows this was not a fair trial, so the verdict should be overturned. I would like to see Jodi walk out of prison when she is still in her 30s.
/end rant. I apologize if I offended anyone.
I do find your post offensive. You’re acting like we’re just going to quit fighting for Jodi’s release, and that was not the intent of my post, or anyone else’s posts that found relief in Jodi NOT getting the death penalty today.
That’s not “losing focus.” I’m tired of that phrase being bandied about by people who disagree with other posters. It doesn’t help or support Jodi to go off on other posters and accuse them of falling off the bandwagon when nobody actually has. Nobody is sidetracked, and nobody’s minds have changed about Jodi’s innocence. Just because the site posters aren’t organized *right this second* or fast enough for your taste does not mean that we aren’t brainstorming ideas about how to get Jodi’s conviction appealed.
Today, there were members of the jury that could have caved, could have given the bloodthirsty mob what they wanted. They could have given the monstrosities and vampires something to gleefully rub their hands together and salivate over. But they didn’t. Yes, I am grateful to them for that, even if they came back with a M1 conviction because I believe that’s a bogus verdict and probably the result of bullying.
So excuse me for not hating the jury enough, or keeping an open mind that they might have had second thoughts, or had their arms twisted in the jury room. But I find your insinuations offensive that just because we aren’t giving this turn of events the cold shoulder, that suddenly we’ve forgotten our purpose. It’s very condescending.
God bless you MB!
MB, you rock! 🙂
Thanks all.
I just want to add, that I don’t want to be hard on anyone. I’d rather be cuddly than having to sound off. But I’m tired of hearing “oh you’re losing focus” or “you’ve lost the point of the mission.”
Fucking please. You don’t know everything I’ve contributed, and you aren’t privy to my emails offsite with anyone or the research I do. You don’t know the countless hours I’ve spent working on this case, that’s not counting my posting here. I choose not to post about it here, because I don’t want to make anyone else feel like they aren’t doing enough.
The most important thing people can do is post here in support of Jodi, and I don’t want to take away from that in any way.
But I refuse to be told that I’m losing sight of what’s important. That’s bullshit. I’ve been here since January, and people should know by now where I stand and where I direct my energies to. It’s insulting to be told I’ve changed my mind when I haven’t, or that I’m not doing enough despite what I’ve done.
Could you give us a couple weeks to organize? This isn’t just up to me, this is a community effort. THANK YOU.
MB, I can’t speak for everyone here but myself. However, I love everything that you do, have done and will continue to do and I’d like to believe that this sentiment is shared with everybody here who supports Jodi. Your hard work and dedication has not gone unnoticed, believe me. I consider you to be an angel of mercy and a wonderful human being for what you do. God bless you and your family.
Thanks Frank! <3
I don't feel like I deserve those compliments because I am just trying to do what's right.
And I don't want others to feel left out or like they aren't doing enough.
I love everyone here, and I am grateful for our little community. <3
MB who is that person? Honestly I haven’t. ever seen that name before. You said that with such class. Thank you for all you do
I too was offended. We may support Jodi in different ways (some are very involved legally, some donate, others send her cards, and some may vent here), but it’s still support. In the end we want as many victories as we can get. Small victories may one day equal one big win.
MB,
Thank you for EVERYTHING!
As apparently the resident black sheep here, I also want to say what a great job you are doing. This site is critical in so many ways – not the least of which the unknown number of Jodi-haters who have come here and learned the truth and threw their support to her. There’s no better place for a person to come and learn SO MUCH about the entire case as well as hear theories and opinions from people who clearly have given plenty of thought to it.
Thank you, MB!
MB I often wonder where you get your energy to be here all the time and do everything that you are doing! You are wonderful person! Thankyou so much for this site and all of your efforts.
MB, I apologize if my post offended you. I didn’t mean to. But, you are the admin here, and now I feel offended and not welcome on this page. I will continue to support Jodi, just not on this page. My contribution wasn’t significant anyway.
I have to thank you MB, because this was the kick in the pants I needed to get back to my life. My family tried but did not succeed. I was spending a lot of time on the site, reading all the posts from about a week into the trial.
I will miss your courage and humor SJ and sirlips I will miss your wit and wisdom. jade, (I hope I got the name right & I haven’t seen your posts in a while) I learned a lot from your interpretation of the crime scene photos. geebee your site is awesome. Jodi is lucky to have you guys on her side.
Stay strong Team Jodi and may you be victorious.
Take a look at a case from *** when a man was found guilty of killing his wife within 6 months JURY misconduct was found based on an appeal and he got a new trial and was free while awaiting it. So things do happen quickly and some do not. We see it better that today was not a day the Jodi was placed in a cell to face her DEATH!! And rely only on appeals. If she gets life she will be able to interact with other prisoners while awaiting the appeal and with the DP she would NOT be able to. We are happy that today Jodi was NOT told you will face DEATH for protecting yourself. We know that another jury can make their choice but we are one step closer to getting appeals. If I were Jodi I would rather spend time with other people and help them the best way I can then sit in a DP cell all alone with no one to talk to while awaiting those appeals.
but this is Just one Blonds opinion
Exactly she should not take any deals that try to strip her of her constitutional rights to appeals. This thing will be get thrown out one way or the other and she will get a new trial.
I dont think anyone here is losing focus because they are happy about the verdict. On the contrary everyone here is really focused on doing everything they can to help Jodi.It’s just so nice to see the relief on Jodis face, to see the the assholes on hln squirm and especially the fake Alexanders. We all had relief and joy today- it felt great. It has been such an emotional roller coaster lately. We are all too familiar with Kermits bullshit tactics and are very aware of the insane injustice that is going on. But just because we are happy at having a little relief today at finding out that there were some real humans on the jury doesnt mean we are losing focus.
This group feels like the “300” against the persian army, or the army of Juan. But, I believe we will have a happy ending 🙂
I agree.
Off topic but last night I watched A Time To Kill. Is that where your screen name is from? 🙂
LOL! No, just my initials
Dear Jodi & TEAM Jodi:
Good morning! How are you? Some of you may be wondering how I became a supporter of Jodi Arias. I must confess that I did not watch this trial from the get-go. Some of my friends and my Mom did, but I did not. Initially, I didn’t pay that much attention to it as I considered it be like a case that would probably wind up on that “Snapped” TV show someday. But then in early March I finally asked my Mom what this case was all about and she told me. Then I started doing research on the Internet because I want to hear from all sides as much as possible. I visited Jodi’s MySpace page, Travis’s MySpace page, various websites, etc. I must confess that I did not post here at that time because I was neutral and wanted to be fair and impartial as I did not have all of the facts then to have a point-of-view.
The first thing that stood out for me on Travis’s MySpace page was how he listed “money, women and power” as his main interests. Now, some people might say that he was obviously joking, but I think that this comment speaks volumes. I read exchanges between Jodi and Travis on there that led me to believe that if this woman was such a monster, then why was he talking so apparently lovingly of her? And why in the world would he let her into his place in the middle of the night if she was this demonic person that some people have tried to make her out to be? The way that Team Travis has tried to make Jodi out, you would think that she’s Alex, Glenn Close’s character, from “Fatal Attraction”. For awhile there, I wanted to write a book about this trial and call it “The Law Of Fatal Attraction”. All kidding aside, it just raised red flags for me. I just couldn’t imagine Jodi saying to Travis a la Close in the movie, “I won’t be ignorrrred, Travis!” LOL
I also kept hearing over the next several weeks from Travis’s family about how pristine this guy was and now we know that this is bullshit. The way they were making out Travis to be it was like that bearded guy in the “Most Interesting Man In The World” TV commercials for Dos Equis. “He doesn’t just walk on water…water walks on HIM!”…”He once was elected Student President…and he didn’t even run!”…”He not only never does the same thing twice, he never does the same thing once!” I mean, it was beyond pathetic to see how they have propped Travis Alexander to be this martyr. Not just the pro-Travis people outside of the courtroom who tend to be mostly a bunch of white, middle-aged, bored housewives and teeny-bopper girls who have developed crushes over a dead guy. I heard someone on HLN yesterday say that she missed her prom to go to this trial. Are you freaking kidding me? I had a friend of mine once who missed her high school prom, but she went to a Pink Floyd concert. She had a good reason. The fact is that 90% of these people who show up to display their love and devotion to Travis Alexander could give a shit about Travis and his family. They are there because they want to be on TV and obviously got no lives or anything else better to do. Most of us at Team Jodi would love to have that kind of time on our hands, but we are working for a living and many of us are trying to support a family. What has kept me going in some tough times is to imagine the Styx song “Too Much Time On My Hands” playing in the background whenever I see one of these people from “Team Travis” interviewed on TV.
I watched interviews with Jodi and observed her body language in court and I came to the conclusion in the past month that she is innocent. Initially, I was on Travis’s side, but I always kept an open mind and anyone that knows me will tell you that I question a lot of things. It’s not that I want to be a pain in the ass, but rather that I don’t just accept things at face value. I think that it is important to question things that we don’t understand and try to find answers. And, my own personal intuition kept telling me that Travis Alexander was not unlike a lot of men that I have seen around women in my lifetime. They come across as sweet, funny, likable guys that wine and dine women and impress them with their knowledge of various things, their money and their body. But, once you get to know them you find out that most of this is a façade for someone who can be and many times is more terrifying once you strip away the façade. They’re not going to come out and show themselves for the douche bags that they really are. That is why they hide behind a façade or a mask and usually say and do everything they can to get a woman into bed. And then, once they’ve had enough, they discard them like they were a piece of trash. I’ve seen this happen with some of my friends. What’s really frustrating for me is that a few of these women I liked and wanted to go out with, but they turned me down for one of these guys. I’m not saying that I’m perfect, far from it. But aside from my name on this website, which I choose not to reveal now for security reasons, everything that I have revealed to you all and said comes from my heart and is the truth. And I can only hope that my sincerity comes across because I truly have nothing to hide. I’m not a fan of fake people or bullshitters. This is one of many reasons why I can’t stand the pedo-huggers or HLN.
I am not a psychic, but I have been very intuitive for most of my life and especially in the last couple of years. I also feel a kindred spirit in Jodi because we share a lot of the same interests and I was pleasantly surprised to see that she is a fan of Napoleon Hill. She also quoted John Lennon on her page and I am a huge fan of his and the music of The Beatles. I look forward to corresponding with Jodi and I hope to hear back from her because I truly believe that she is a wonderful person and someone that I would be honored to have as a friend. This is why I choose to support Jodi Arias and one of many reasons why I am here and on the FB page. I also do not like the way that Jodi is being treated in the media, especially by HLN, because it feels like they are ganging up on here and throwing stones at her on a daily basis. And although I was raised Catholic I consider myself to be more spiritual than religious, but I believe that we are following in the footsteps of Christ much more than the Travis Town pedo-huggers.
Last but not least, I know that for some of you that today’s verdict was not one that you’re thrilled about. I understand. But, personally, I would much rather have a new judge and jury with a better defense than what Jodi had to deal with for the past 4 1/2 months. And, I personally would hate to think of Jodi being carted off to death row where she is isolated from everyone. That is unacceptable to me. I will fight it and fight for Jodi until the day that I die. And, folks, I’m 40 and I plan on living another 60 years so those on the other side better get used to it because I ain’t going anywhere anytime soon. 🙂 I’m sorry that I arrived late to this, but I’m here now and will be forever. And, you all just got yourselves a new foot soldier who is on-call 24/7, 365 days a year and will not crumble under the attacks led by our opponents. I haven’t even met Jodi Arias yet, but I truly believe that she is a wonderful person and I know that she did not pre-meditate this killing of Travis Alexander. That is why I am here and I will never stop fighting for Jodi’s freedom until she is finally free.
Frank I want to start by saying thank you. You came to this page and did what you thought was right you read what we had to say and then you did the same with the TA site. You used you GOD given BRAIN to make YOUR OWN choice and NOT the one the Media or the Haters or EVEN that WE told you to have. You chose to believe Jodi based o your own life experiences and common sense. I wish that MORE newbies to the page did what you just did. You were honest and TOLD us yes I use to see the case a different way. I want to commend you for doing that. I think if more of the NEWBIES did this we the supporters who have been here forever may be less questionable. WE WANT people to come here and support Jodi. And if people don’t then t hat is their right and their are pages for them to go to. They just need not post here because we could careless what they had to say and as it says above the comment section at the bottom of the page..”do not waste your invaluable time” WE Coupld give a shit less what your opinions of Jodi are. WE love her and that is all that counts. Frank I want to say welcome to JAII. Look forward to getting to know you.
Thank you, Jennifer. 🙂 And, likewise, I look forward to getting to know you and everyone else here.
Another thing that really gravitated me towards Team Jodi is the behavior being demonstrated by Team Travis. I keep seeing friends of Travis’s showing up on TV and they’re pretty much parroting the same lines over and over again about how perfect he was. I think that we all know better. Just seeing the way that so many of them have taken it upon themselves to align themselves with the media, it’s apparent to me who the real sluts and whores are.
I also have been disgusted with the way that so many of these so-called “Christians” or “Mormons” have been behaving on the Internet and outside of the courtroom. They’re a bunch of hypocrites and liars and if people want to see who the real sinners are in this trial, look no further than to Team Travis.
Thank you. I posted earlier on Yahoo that the Alexanders claim to be religious and real religious people do not BEG 12 people to kill another. They let GO AND LET GOD. Knowing that what we do to someone here on Earth to punish them for their crimes is nothing compared to what HE will do to them for all eternity. But religious people also don’t use drug, steal, hate, lie, or blame others. This family IS NOT religious. They are a cult.
The Arias family has been very classy in all this. No interviews no screaming at the public. Nothing just support for Jodi.
Jennifer, I’d like to think that God is taking notes. 🙂
I pray that he is. I know that family is hurting and angry that he is gone but they are not living in reality and refuse to see the truth of who Travis was. They do not want to admit to the world and probably their selves that they didn’t know the “REAL” Travis and they cannot go back and change the fact their relationship was what it was.
Jennifer, you couldn’t have stated that any more clearer. I hope the rest of the world sees this cult for what it is.
Thank you. I don’t think that the majority is going to change their minds any time soon. They are so brain washed.
i think many here agree with you Frank…
i do not think “supporters” here came in here with blind allegiance to jodi. i kno i didn’t.
i think we tended to notice exactly what you noticed.
not many people here gave jodi a fist bump for contributing to the demise of another person. many only saw reasons on how /why it occurred.
no matter what the outcomes have been up to this point, people here should feel good about themselves. how they offer a fair look at things, most from experiences.
people here seem to look for the GOOD, not the evil. that will tend to bring the good to the forefront of their lives.
Some other ideas on how to show our support for Jodi Arias:
1) Everyone order a “Survivor” t-shirt and take a picture or have someone else take a picture of us with it on and post as our profile pic on Facebook, Twitter, etc.
2) In addition to the current donations, start up a “Jodi Arias Defense Fund” and raise money through this website.
3) Create a YouTube channel for Team Arias although comments would have to be monitored. This could be a tough one because you just know that the haters will flock there like flies to shitpaper. LOL Still, you could always have it set where you had to approve comments before posting or just disable comments altogether. I like the idea of a YouTube channel because if your videos get lots of views you can qualify to start earning money from them. You know that the videos on this channel would be seen by lots of people and the more money that could be earned to help Jodi, the better.
4) Jodi’s birthday is coming up on July 9th. How about we all send birthday cards to her or maybe Team Jodi could get us to “sign” a birthday card with all of our names that Jodi’s family or friends could personally deliver to her at the jail? I really think that this would lift her spirits and anything that can be done to bring a smile to that lovely face I’m in for. 🙂 What do you say?
Frank,
Jodi is only allowed to receive postcards that are metered.. So the birthday cards will not work in this case….. I am not sure how often her family is going to visit with such a gap in this next phase ( June 20th and July 18th)
I like the YouTube suggestion, what are you going to put on this video? and who’s going to monitor it?
Defense fund is already being considered and how we can do it…. ethically
Survivor T-shirts are perfect and many are ordering them.
Please be careful what you mention about supporting Jodi and raising money as the ” haters” are always lurking on this site and for ways to make more money for them gold diggers………
Point taken. 🙂 Thanks, FUJuan!
Damn it FU JUAN I again was typing my book. See the bottom and you do it fast and simple …..EEEWWWWW LOL
See, now THIS is the kind of stuff I’m looking for!
I need to know what other people can bring to the table, what they can offer to support Jodi.
It’s so important that we take some stock into all of our talents so we can figure how to organize and work together.
I love your youtube idea Frank, but in the past there’s been issues with haters getting videos pulled off the web. Sad and disgusting, but true, that’s what the haters do because they have no life and no purpose other than being jerks.
Perhaps we can have a channel hosted at the private server, that would be great!
I like your idea about the channel, MB!
I also had another idea for some of us out there that are musicians or singers. Maybe we could pool our collective talents together and create an album of songs or music which could be called “Songs For Jodi” or something like that. Then, maybe we could all pitch in and get Jodi an iPod if she doesn’t have one already that she could listen to in jail. Forgive me for being naïve, but are people in jail allowed to listen to an iPod?
Another idea I had would be to collect a scrapbook for Jodi and it could be filled with poetry, letters, thoughts, pictures, etc. This is something that someone in her family or friends could give to her in prison. What I love about this is that it doesn’t cost much and it comes from the heart. I think that these make the best gifts, gifts from the heart. And, I know with all of my heart that Jodi would love it. I don’t even know her and yet I feel like I know her, does that make sense?
well it would be awesome to find a celeb to come out for her maybe a woman, like Dillion did for the Hurricane and Depp for the Memphis three.
the youtube would have to have comments disabled cause I know I fight with the travis supporters all the time LOL and we dont want them doing it to us. So maybe another hosting site.
I am studying CJ so anyway I can help I will be glad to chip in.
An Ipod is a great idea! I don’t know if they can have ipods in jail, but yes one of our goals should be giving Jodi as much comfort as possible behind bars.
I know even if people send her gifts she doesn’t need, she can still use them the barter with other inmates. It will help her establish a place in the culture there.
I’d like to get an ipad with all the music she likes on it. That way she can always have something to listen to tunes with.
But like I said, I’m not sure yet what she’ll be allowed, or what kind of items can be sent in the mail at all. I think there are some things that have to be hand delivered to the prison, but I don’t remember where I heard that from so I’ll have to google it to be sure. Sherriff Joe is extremely strict and it’s been a task for many just to figure out how to send a simple post card. I hope there’s not as much regulation as with care packages, but I’m probably wrong. lol
Postcards only… no gifts of any sort…. I think abc15 did article on this or azcentral. I looked it up through the jail website… JOE IS A DICK… even at the prision she is only allowed to have two books, paper, a few other things… I posted it last night………… metered mail, no stamps… no food, no make up, CDs but they have to be approved. She’s allowed a tv with cable but has to buy it through the prision for 300 bucks.
Yikes. I bet it’s a shitty tv too huh. Like they sell bottles of generic shampoo for five bucks.
Such a racket!!!
It’s a ghetto five inch tv… something like that… it showed a photo fo the tv… damn you need good eyes for that t.v.
OMG WTF
(insert other three letter acronym here)
For fuck sakes. Five inches??? I was hoping for at least 13 for that kind of money.
That’s highway robbery!!!!!!
MB
Death Row inmates may place two ten minute telephone calls per week. Personal property is limited to hygiene items, two appliances, two books and writing materials, which can be purchased from the inmate commissary. Health care is provided at the Health Unit; medication is passed out at the cell front. Clergy contacts are provided at the cell.
They can only have a TV in Prison, not in County jail. They can have 2 books, writing materials and toiletries. Also, 2 appliances. like a hot plate and coffee maker, or microwave. That is IT. But seriously. The food is better in AZ prison and not Joe A’s jail. he gives them only 2 meals a day. It is crap. prison is different, pretty standard across America. She will be in General population, hopefully one day but for the first 2-5 years, she may be in Solitary confinement., Also, she may be put in a secure/solitary facility for her own safety. where they house High Profile females. She could be seriously hurt in there. If she gets the DP, then she will be alone for the rest of her life and still get the above items I mentioned. Sad, so sad. The foreman believed she was verbally and emotionally abused. They all did. Yet gave her M1?? WTF. so Alyce was right, (I had no doubt) the jury agreed. I hope the Jury knows we support their decision to not give Jodi the DP and that was good that 4 of them agreed. The haters make me sick. Slobbering for another death, salivating like rabid dogs. Gross. Prayers for forgiveness and Jodi.
Patty
Dear Team Admin — is it possible now for the people here on Jodi’s site to get funds donated into Jodi’s commisary account?
There were rumors going back weeks talking about how TA’s Dry Cry Clan would attempt to take any proceeds from the sale of Jodi’s art on ebay if she got convicted
Is it possibly to fund her account now and they would be safe?
I can not imagine the toll this 5 month trial has taken on her physically and mentally.
Even though Jodi has no idea who most of us are, I want to do what I can even from Florida so that she can get the things she needs, personal items, snacks, postage, while she waits for the next phase.
Thank you admin.
They cant take previously earned money. Only future earned and donations do not qualify.
Hi Matt,
I’m not sure what’s going on with that yet. I know we are looking into alternate ways to support Jodi’s family and set up a legal fund.
No worries we will find a way to keep financially supporting the Arias family during this time.
Thanks for your contributions 🙂
I love the scapebook idea, and poems…. Those are things we could give to her mom… we have to remember the family too… especially her mom and aunt, and sister.. I know the dad is not in good health.
no ipods, on a CD player which they have to buy through the comminsary
It would be good to have a short you tube documentary about domestic violance, particularly emotional abuse, and explain how it affects your self esteem, portray it as it really is, bullying, Advise young people to get help, then explain what Jodi advises about documenting abuse, go into the case and the fight of her life, and where she is now. show the haters, the church, the work environment, show the televised abuse to people who defended a vulnerable woman, the media, show Nurmi asking for sequestering of jury, asking for mistrial, show the prosecutor abuse….there are many to choose from, the crying judge, and especially play Nancy G. and Dr.Drew, as they advise Juan on what they would say. Make sure to play Juan in court repeating their advice, sometimes verbatum, and show the constitution, exemplify the right to a fair trial. Must put to some music and lawyer needs to advise. Can ask for donations for appeals as well as survivor shirts for victims of abuse. I may know the perfect person to advise on how to do all this.
In case anyone missed this from the other page, and I saw a few requests.
here is an animated gif of the Loser Kermit.
http://imgur.com/jE2TPls
UKJodiFan,
I was just going to ask you to post that over here. Thanks! That’s just beautiful. He looks like a kid who’s mother told him he couldn’t have a cookie before dinner. Pout away, Juan.
And when you think that he sulking because he didn’t get to take Jodi’s life.
He is the real monster.
I know that Sj is working on the defense fund angle though I don’t know where he is in that process. Not sure that cards can go to the jail I think just those postcards can. But maybe one or two or more I guess of us could go get a few and sign from and list all the names of her supporters on here. I am not familiar with setting up a you tube channel so I cant answer that. Also we could get her magazine subscriptions for her bday because I know she can get those. We can get her the ones based on her interests of even puzzle books to help her pass the time.
Jennifer
(((((((((hugs))))))))))))))) I am just to quick with the keyboard….!!! Plus great minds think alike at this early morning hour.
There are a lot of things we can do to help with funds, but I will not share them on this main page…( wink).
It truly sucks that she is not allowed to receive packages……….I would send her the biggest fk basket filled with all kinds of art supplies for her birthday…. FU SHERIFF JOE………!!!
I know that a lot of us aren’t big fans of Sheriff Joe, but compared to HLN and Team Travis I think that he has been very decent by comparison. I’m still not a fan of his, but I think this just goes to show you how extreme the zealots are along with their minions at HLN.
Frank are you FK serious about Sheriff JOE???? Honey, where have you been? getting her up at 3 am in the morning, feeding breakfast at 5 or 6 am and no lunch, and dinner at 5-6 pm…. serving rotten spoiled food………… FK THIS DICK… I will take HLN hateful words all day along…….
FUJuan: I know that Sheriff Joe is a dick. I was just making the comparison to how bad he is compared to Travis’s family and supporters who are so bad that they make him look decent. Does that make sense?
Gotcha Frank……….. makes sense….. 🙂
i agree Frank Q. ! sheriff was professional re: jodi. i was very surprised. bet hln hated broadcasting his interview.
I agree great minds do think alike….it seems to be we spend lots of nights together. I hate how Jodi didn’t get lunch. Do they feed the inmates lunch when they aren’t in court?
Oh that first line sounded LOL
No they do not get LUNCH in AZ……….when she was in court she would split her breakfast in half…. not sure how you split an apple and 2oz of peanut butter and a piece of bread…..
Yes I might be able to swing going to AZ with you ….. there is a super nice hotel down the street from the court house… Crown Plaza…
I still think that Sheriff Joe is lying about feeding the inmates 2600 calories a day. I doubt they’re getting half of that.
another thing he does is if an inmate is “difficult” they just get bread and water. There are other organizations looking into that already.
I thought WTF! when I saw the loaf of bread and him saying that! I didn’t know they still allowed this to go on…years ago, they did throw them in a hole and give them bread and water. Can they still do this?
I would love to get Jodi a magazine subscription if someone can find out a list of which ones she would want. Also, couldn’t birthday cards be sent to her mom and maybe when she goes to visit her she could at least show them to her.
Ok here are just a few things bugging me
Why can’t Jodi do interviews? Someone needs to talk for her, there is a mob speaking out for TA. How dare that reporter ask that.
Why cant people see Jodi as their daughter? If they can see Travis as everyone’s son, really we are all one big family, and there is a 50/50 chance a family member could be the murderer or the dead one. So how come people cannot look at this for what it is a totally travisty that happens a lot between in domestic relationships. It doesn’t make her evil, it makes society sick and we need to fix something that is very wrong with how we treat one another.
And these jurors need to be placed behind some kind of box where no one can see them and they cannot see the families actions day in and day out. We have a big problem these days we better fix it fast : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG6VLFHcxYM
And a higher court needs to come in and remove this Judge this is just disgusting.
Believe me, had I known Jodi before this trial, I would have jumped at the chance to testify on her behalf as a character witness.
you and me both. Frank…. To bad DV survivors couldnt testify……….. she would have a huge line…. and I am not afraid of JUAN….
BIG BAD WOLF Sheriff JOE said NO more interviews….. and personally right now I don’t think she should be doing any interviews…. she still has the sentencing phase in two months, and appeals… don’t dig a ditch if you don’t need too… ( get my dirft) … Sometimes actions speak louder than words, and in this case we need ACTION..
I totally agree about the JUDGE…….seriously give her a tissue…. and call her therapist.
As Jodi stated in one of her interviews, she has support from around the world….. We are only looking at HLN and a few hater sites…. We really don’t know what support she has ….. or where it’s coming from.
Personally I think in DP cases professional jurors should be hired……….. then we wouldn’t have these issues. Just wait until tomorrow of this weekend when they start talking. Then its going to get interesting.
I agree, I think all capital cases too should have a professional panel.
FU Juan please read the vent page
Done, and replied back………… (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))
Thanks!! I am going to post something I need your help with on there in a minute.
HEy my Juan der ful favorite man,
Do you know how this next phase will go?
I know a new jury is seated but what do they use to base their opinion on. They didn’t hear 4 months worth of testimony. I heard they will have a smaller condensed trial. But what evidence will go in and what will not because remember this jury is not suppose to know about the case. I think a condensed trial might be alright for the average 2 to 7 day trial but NOT a 4 plus month trial. I think this whole next phase is nuts. She should have a total NEW trial.
Hey Jennifer,
Not sure what’s going to happen in this next phase on July 18th… I think we will know more on June 20th. It’s going to be a cliffnote type for the jurors….. personally I don’t believe in this part, and don’t know how in the fk you can ask 12 jurors that didn’t sit through the trial to determine if she should get life or death…
I read last night this could take months… but it’s AZ so who the fk knows. I also thought i read that if it’s moved to another location she would get a different judge…. but not certain on that part.
this case should be thrown out…. CORRUPT …. and a whimpie judge who almost lost it on the stand today. For petes sakes……… how the fk did she become a judge?
I think so too. I don’t know how they got a jury in that area who NEVER heard of Jodi. I don’t live in AZ but I see that it is all over there. The papers, the news channels, late night tv, all over. How can a person live there and NOT know something about it. I still think that Jeff should just go to the call for duty and say Jodi WHOOO.
LOL don’t think Jeff will be on this juror…. I believe it’s for another trial.. Seems to be a lot of crime in Phoenix…. It’s ashame, bc Scottdales use to be one of my fav places to visit …. love the weather in AZ… but after this fk-ed trial I will never visit that state again… Hell No………
LOL. I have never been to hot for my blood. I like the cool weather and hate the summers here also too hot. But since I am not working right now I was thinking about going out for the next phase. I don’t have a lot of money right now so I thought maybe several of us could meet up there and maybe rent a couple bedroom suite and all bunk in the same suite. Like a big sleep over. LOL Imagine all the “missions” that could be completed with all of us together. LOL
That’s cool….. What state are you in?
I cant tell..LOL No I am in Iowa, and no not the place where they grow potatoes that is Idaho (lol yes I just said I da hoe) lol That is a joke that people say when they ask where I am from.
Cool……….. your like 8 hours north of me…….. Been to Iowa once for a confernce and said I would never return………farm land, and nothing around us…. !!
Yep we got a lot of farm fields here. Would you be able to take a few days and go
Iowa is where they grow the corn!:)
The jury pools are large so the odds that I would even be selected for the Arias trial are slim. Timing is also an issue. I am called on July 1, but am going to extend for 60 or 90 days. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jodi’s retrial (if there is one) to be delayed too.
I’ll say that if by some strange thing I am called when they select Jodi’s new jury would be an act of God and I’ll have to pay attention to that.
YEA! He did a total 180. The other day he said he had an open door policy and any convict in the jail could give an interview at any time. he said he had nothing to hide. now he has suddenly said no more interviews. That is so confusing to me. mabey ,just mabey he is thinking of her as far as future trials go, and he doesn’t want her to say anything that could be held against her? Or mabey he is just a jerk IDK!
I think there is some suggestion that Joe Arpaio may have been a somewhat unlikely ally of Jodi’s.
Don’t quote me on this, but there are some puzzling data points!
sheriff joe did not say one bad word about jodi. pretty much the opposite.
i didn’t really expect that. he was very respectful re: jodi.
i gained some new respect for him.
I think Arpaio was ordered not to allow Jodi anymore interviews if you as me.
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No plea deal for Jodi please. There is no way she should lose her right to appeal. The bogus M1 verdict will be thrown out on appeal. Please Jodi do not accept a plea deal.
Strongly Agree Mary! That’s what I’ve thought all along. Personally, ‘I see her crime and think she has done her time’.
Jodi never had an impartial jury. According to the studies on “death penalty jurors”:
“capital juries are unrepresentative of the community at large, predisposed to support the prosecution, and predisposed to convict persons brought before the court. The process of death qualification creates a second source of bias: Prolonged exposure to discussion of the penalty at the outset of jury qualification suggests that the defendant’s guilt is presumed by the attorneys and judge, increases the acceptability of pro-death penalty attitudes, and has been shown to in crease both the likelihood that jurors will convict and their willingness to vote for the death penalty”
http://cad.sagepub.com/content/26/4/512.abstract
Maybe this could help Jodi in appeal. If they had not been “death Penalty” jurors, they would most likely have gone with a lessor charge.
They tend to be Haters to begin with – like Nancy G. – she obviously never got over her hate & vengeance. She also isn’t wearing a wedding ring – surprise? Heard she got pregnant to get her man. If you read her Wiki page – she was thrown out of court twice by judges for her mouth – no wonder she’s not a prosecutor anymore. Also has had a few lawsuits against her.
Jan,
I also noticed that she hasn’t been wearing her wedding ring… Noticed that when she was at the children’s musuem in AZ, can’t blame the husband…. she is forever bringing up the murder of her ex fiance/ bf that was 20-30 years ago.
Isnt funny how close together names and what they are are?
Like Mormons are MORONS
And the Prosecutor in this case is a PROSTITUTE.
LOL Jennifer…………
I’ve often wondered what kind of a weirdo her husband must be that he was capable of “falling in love” with this psychopath. Can you imagine trying to have a civilized discussion with this soulless creature from hell?
regarding NG’s husband, see the wikipedia bio. She announced on her tv show she was pregnant and even gave her due date. She gave birth fully 2 months before the alleged “due date”. She got married only after she was pregnant. And all of that crap about her killed fiance is debunked in the wikipedia bio also. She has also been formally sanctioned more than once. Also, Law and Order had a regular character: a crazy demented tv attorney, and they were clearly mocking her all along.
ppl like Disgrace think u sit on a dp jury, that if m1 u give the dp.
she’s an IDIOT. that is NOT how the works.
she loved the jury, but now… can’t have it both ways ms. Disgrace!
Hi all those bloodthirsty rabid dogs at hln need to take a pill
Or deepbreathing or a timeout. If not they should be charged
With inciting hatred their actions would be illegal if used against
A group.of. People. Anyways hln is.not about justice they’re about
The money and ratings . Also I think a boycott of Arizona. As a tourist
Destination wouldn’t be out of line.
Thanks mb. Team Jodi and all keep on.keeping on!!!
Jvm NG VP are smelly peice of shiite
Good Morning Everyone
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Brown Eyed Women
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It Must Have Been the Roses
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“The death penalty fails to deter crime.”
http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=82
I am trying to find the study that shows since the 1800s – the countries with DP are much more violent.
and some convicted are proven innocent years later…
“On March 27, Amnesty International released its annual survey on the use of capital punishment worldwide, titled Death Sentences and Executions 2011. The report illustrated that the use of the death penalty has continued to decline around the world. At the end of 2011, there were 140 countries considered abolitionist in law or practice, while only 20 countries were known to have put prisoners to death in 2011. The United States was the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE or among the G8 nations to carry out executions, and was the fifth country in terms of known executions carried out in the world, behind China, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq.”
Death Sentences and Executions in 2011, Amnesty International, March 2012
OK, I just found something stunning to me – this might be worthy of a separate article post by the moderator:
Between 2004 and 2009, here are the counties with the most death sentences imposed:
1. Maricopa, Arizona 38
2. Los Angeles, California 33
3. Harris, Texas 21
4. Oklahoma, Oklahoma 18
5. Jefferson, Alabama 16
6. Riverside, California 15
7. Orange, California 14
8. Duval, Florida 13
Source – see page 281: http://www.bu.edu/law/central/jd/organizations/journals/bulr/documents/SMITH_001.pdf
Wow. What’s going on there in Maricopa county?
Two things: Arpaio and Martinez.
Two sociopaths who belong in prison themselves.
I thought CA. was opposed to the DP.
“Less than 1% of all homicides result in a death sentence and execution, which means that only a tiny section of families of murder victims receive whatever benefit is associated with executing the perpetrator. Additionally, which defendants are sentenced to death and which receive life without parole is often a result of a combination of luck, geography, racial elements, and the resources available to the defendant. What’s more, a prosecutor advocating for the death penalty is not necessarily doing so according to the victim’s family’s wishes, or even their consent.
There is no consensus that executing the perpetrator brings closure to the victim’s family. In fact, death penalty cases generally result in numerous, prolonged appeals, causing the victim’s family to relive the event over and over before a final judgment is reached……”
“Many countries are able to preserve social order and maintain public confidence without using the death penalty, such as Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Poland, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, and the United Kingdom. Also, these countries generally have lower murder rates than does the United States.
In fact, the U.S. is in some very disreputable company with regard to retention of the death penalty. Other countries that still use capital punishment include Afghanistan, Burundi, China, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, and Uganda. (Amnesty International, “Abolitionists & Retentionist Countries.”) Many of these countries are far from models for social order, and some are known for committing human rights abuses against their citizens and neighboring countries.
Some may say that countries without the death penalty are fundamentally different from the United States in terms of values and crime rates. However, many American states do not have the death penalty, including Alaska, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. In fact, these states generally have lower murder rates than do states with the death penalty. (The Death Penalty Information Center, “Understanding Capital Punishment: A Guide Through the Death Penalty Debate.”) ”
http://www.ncadp.org/index.cfm?content=45
Willie,
Add Connecticut, Maryland, Illinois, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York and DC to the list.
Ok all. I must get some rest. A few hours sleep anyways. I leave you with this great quote by Napoleon Hill.
“Victory is always possible for the person who refuses to stop fighting.”
Keep up the good fight and I’ll see you all soon.
AA and any other legal buffs here.
I did find a case in Maricopa county where the jury hung on the penalty phase and a retrial was conducted. It is the case of Stephen Davis Reeves. Initial hung jury was in Jan 2010, final judgement after penalty phase retrial was in May 2011. The record is rather long and I’m weeding through it to try figure out what they did in the retrial. The direct appeal is currently active and I haven’t been able to find the briefs yet, but will keep digging.
So this won’t be a first. (BTW the law for this was written as a result of Ring v. Arizona in 2002).
Al,
In Maricopa County, AZ where the jury hung on the penalty phase and a retrial was conducted. Three out of the last five have been sentenced to the DP@ retrial. (seen on TV yesterday).
But remember 85% of Maricopa County, AZ DP cases are overturned on appeal – something is rotten in Maricopa County, AZ.
just look at how the judge and lil juan conducted themselves. seems that’s typical of this area.
Have there been 5 or more hung juries on the penalty phase in Maricopa county? Wow.
Thanks Al, for all your digging and posting to keep us informed.
Thanks Willie, I too saw that reported on TV.
AMEN. I see there was at least 1 smart, honest, compassionate Juror. Can someone explain to me in detail what happens now? How do they find 12 new people? Where? After that, These people have to know the details about the trial etc. Right?
One Last thing;
Dear Sweet Literal Jodi,
No more interviews, unless you are crying and grateful. I don’t know honey, just know there was at least one brave person on your Jury that did not believe you deserved the DP. This leads me to believe that at least 1 juror probably wanted to find you Not guilty, perhaps they were afraid or bullied. Oj, lets pray they come forward.
Hang in there, Team Jodi.
Patty
Dear SJ,
Yay (y) yay yay yay. hugs to all
Patty
I’m praying for a juror to come out and just tell the truth: this jury was tainted and biased. Any allegations of bullying would also be nice. The alternate juror who left that note on Travis’ FB page…the page she’d never seen before…the page a “friend” told her about…lady please! They must think we’re all riding on the same short bus.
HLN knew they were watching their channel, that’s why they pumped their coverage up. I don’t remember this much coverage during Casey’s trial. I definitely don’t remember any of that HLN after dark or Dr. Drew jurors crap.
It should be mandatory for a jury to be sequestered in a DP case. I believe that is the only reason CA is free today.
u r SOooo RIGHT. for ANY chance of a fair trial for serious criminal charges, a citizen of the USA should have jury sequestered. we here KNOW that. esp. now as digital media continues to bloom.
we’ve witnessed how a state, prosecution, justice system, et.al., stack the deck against the accused. often for their own career gain, paid for by others (taxpayers). god forbid they saved that $ and used if for jobless or the poor. no, they flush it down the toilet.
this being jodi 1st offense, her proven abuse (proven to me anyway, JUST hearing the phone call!), her age at time of incident… at very least DA should have gone with a plea deal of 20/25 to life minus time served. seems jodi has been a good inmate. she does her time, grows further while in prison, released in her 50’s.
she is NOT a multiple killer, etc. she obviously can contribute to society.
people who act holier than thou should learn the word COMPASSION.
Hi Frank. I’m not sure if you watch HLN, but Jose Baez was on last night and he said the exact same thing. Defendants have the right to a sequestered jury especially in a DP case. He also mentioned the social media age. People can literally drive others to suicide by the bullying that occurs online. People feel they can say whatever they want, gang up on you, stalk you, call your boss and call your neighbors because your information is on the Internet. There is no reason a juror should feel threatened or have to move because of their opinion.
Vinnie Politan tried to act as though he was shocked Jose would say that and went on a spit-filled tangent. Jose just doesn’t want jurors to feel pressured to make a decision based on HLN or crazy cat ladies with poster board signs and no lives of their own.
Jury foreman spoke to GMA. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jodi-arias-jury-foreman-tells-gma-how-they-reached-verdict-and-then-didnt/
I haven’t watched it yet but supposedly they believed Travis mentally and verbally abused her. Soooo, why the first degree conviction?!
And the excuses for Travis’ filthy mouth and black heart: “Well who hasn’t said nasty things?” These are the same morons who probably allow their children to behave like little terrorists in school or participate in workplace bullying.
I especially love the women who openly admit their husbands speak to them in a similar fashion.
i ain’t a saint by any means, but i never thought about a 12 yr. girl having her 1st orgasm.
i never raped anyone nor joked about it.
i never pretended to tow any religious line then do the opposite behind doors.
if TA treated jodi with just a little respect, bet he’d be alive today. haters are wrong to blame jodi for HIS transgressions. they r wrong to sat JODI manipulated TA.
the opposite was true. a “motivational speaker” is pretty much a salesman. that’s ok, just don’t be a hypocrite. try ur best to treat a lover, spouse with some respect. the world will b just a lil bit better.
Well said Frank, well said.
Good morning everyone. OK I see Al is awake now. I heard last night that it wasn’t up to JM rather they do another trial or not (not the whole trial just this part) There was a great debate over rather they should just give her life or spend more $$$ on it. The defence will file a motion to have a change of venue and they will win it.
So since JM will still handle it will JW and KN still be her lawyers or can they now be let go?
So lets say the state decides to just go with life that would not hurt Jodi’s chances for appeals would it?
Oh did anyone hear that Donavin called into NG last night and the bitch cute her off when she was saying that JA family wasn’t called.
Dr. D even told the family to go home and let things cool off. Don’t get me wrong I do not like the man one bit and was having way to much fun watching all of them last night. But he did say that they would not find peace withthe DP.
So it was in away a small victory for the defense and Jodi. Got to love the small smile on Jen’s faces. Only wish I could have seen KN’s. The best of all was JM’s..OMG way too funny
So we shell see what the state of AZ decides to do. I’m not sure what was up with the Judge does anyone know how this will effect her? I hope the jury does not speak until after this is over with. Hopefully they will get some rest and then start reading what they missed the last five months..(wink wink)
Can’t wait to hear how CH hughes spins this. I’d. be very careful if I were him..inquiry mines want to know….
Hey Big Sister.
In answer to your JW/KN staying question.
“Defense attorney Willmott told The Arizona Republic that despite rumors, she and Nurmi intend to stay on the case if the penalty stage is retried.”
Thanks.brother..When are the little blessings coming home.
This afternoon.
I miss the little rugrats. My wife caught me watching home videos last night and told me I was a big softie.
I know this isn’t the victory we originally wanted but it’s a victory nonetheless. A lesser verdict would have been better but we will take what we can get. I know very little about the intricacies of the legal system except for what I see on Law and Order CI but to me the fact that this jury could not agree on death gives me hope that at least 4 of them didn’t really buy the M1 verdict. That they were coerced by the other rabid members as well as the circus-like atmosphere surrounding the whole trial so they went ‘with the flow’ but finally balked, thankfully!! When you have an overtly bias judge blatantly kissing prosecution ass and being overcome with emotion when reading a non-death sentence then something’s fishy in Denmark. So I hope the stories start pouring out and a mistrial is declared. Also may the prosecutor JM retreat into the desert with his family of iguanas, may judge Pickles check herself into Drew’s rehab, may NG be kept heavily medicated for the rest if her life to protect the public, may a restraining order against JVM be issued to everyone in the US, and may the family of TA win the lottery so they can move on with their pathetic hate-filled lives. And may Jodi be set free at some point in the not too distant future!!
🙂
The TA family has already won the lottery. They are not holding their second winning ticket as they have renewed their request for more donations. Just how many millions from the ignorant masses do they need?
Just saw the jury foreman on GMA… They said there were several jurors holding out not just in the penalty phase. She -definitely- shouldn’t have been convicted on Murder 1 if that’s the case!!!
They had no business reaching an M1 verdict if that was the case.
It was fear of death threats. It’s that simple.
I agree, tonysam.
Strongly agree tonysam. No way Jodi Arias is guilty of M1 or M2.
OMG. I just watched the interview she did the other day with the guy from ABC (Ryan something?), what a dick. He can go fuck himself now.
i like when jodi said, ” well, why do YOU want to talk to ME”?
HA!
And “I didn’t know you were a hater when you came to interview me.”
yes! that was sorta funny. glad she called him on it too.
the haters can’t believe when she has a quick quip. that’s when they say there something wrong with her. p
i like when she turns the tables on them. she’s trying to control the little she can and is defending herself (again!).
He is such a f’in ASSHOLE asking Jodi
“Would you kill you?”
I just added him to my list of
“There’s a special place in hell…..”
Seriously talk about beyond SMUG &
unprofesssional!
The talking haters pity TA sibs… did u see how they stared down the jury?!
geez, show a LITTLE class. they r so upset cos they didn’t agree with killing a person. they need to check their morals.
i heard a friend of TA even bringing god into it!?
oh, what? he feels that god would want to kill jodi? really?
warped, very warped…
Sherriff Joe may be doing her a favor regarding the no interviews. also, at least she wont be housed OUTSIDE as most convicted women are. Look he is a jerk, bowing to pressure. He is an elected official. However, right now, IMO Jodi needs to be protected from any crazy coming into that jail. It is not prison y’all. I am concerned that some crazy will come in and kill or maim her for fame. Bless you JA. Peace all. A victory. Hung jury, Hang on Jodi!
The Alexander family’s first Facebook posts were requesting MONEY. HELLO Jury, do you see them making a buck off his death. They fake cried, they didn’t even like him. This is what the JURY will see all you haters. The greed of the Alexander family and Chris and Sky Hughes. GREED. They don’t give a crap about him. They wanted her dead so they can milk this for all it is worth $$$$$ Ha Ha Juan, you lost!
I saw the juror foreman on GMA. He believed Travis DID verbally and emotionally abuse jodi. He said he had a strong belief he abused her, but her 18 days on the stand hurt her. He also said there were a few jurors holding out not just one or two. He said her stories were contradictory on the stand and didnt help. He also says Juan Martinez style is very aggressive and he wouldn’t have wanted to be up there answering his questions. He said Travis abuse didnt justify the murder but he didn’t discuss how they came to 1st degree guilt verdict.
Juan kept her up there so long because he was getting his rocks off talking about sex!! I thought Jodi did a stellar job on the stand despite Juan’s nasty nature. I want to know how they came to M1 too when it was so obviously not. Maybe TA’s abuse didn’t but his attack on her that day did!!
Yes and some of it was how Juan worded questions. He played alot of dirty games. He would ask it with precise words to make her look like a liar and I guess it worked.
That juror didn’t watch the same trial I did. Jodi didn’t “contradict” herself. The juror is lying because his mind was made up from the get-go.
You don’t as a juror reach a verdict this serious because of non-existent “contradictory” statements. There was NO proof of premed.
By the way, the issue isn’t whether Travis deserved what he got–it was a life or death struggle in that house, and Travis ended up dead.
It could have just as easily been Jodi, and we would still be treated to more of the Alexander’s antics.
Only difference is the media wouldn’t have cared because a MAN would be on trial for murder, not a woman.
The asshole juror was talking the police interview, because she didn’t contradict herself on the stand.
He’s a moron, just like the rest of that jury.
I hold them all in contempt for having rendering a stupid guilty verdict in the first place.
I think we should try not to put down the jury and be better than the haters, just saying 🙂
I agree. I am impressed they held on to NO Death, No more. I am sad however, if they believed he abused her in ANY capacity, why nor Manslaughter? But I don’t want us bashing the Jury, The TA supporters are doing that. We are better than them!
Agreed. Guilty verdict was stupid!
I think the foreman was one of the holdouts for LWOP. Just a feeling.
I agree… he said it just did not add up…looking at Jodi and the crime just did not ” wash”. His was a hold out and being the foreman brought 3 others with him or helped them not give into the other eight. I am glad he was the foreperson and not one of the woman who most likely wanted the DP.
The good thing is that they didn’t believe her story – but the evidence shows everything she said was true.
I was worried they believed everything she said, but concluded it was somehow murder anyway.
I just hope some of the jurors read my site in the aftermath, and come to change their minds… that would be really great.
I don’t blame them too much – the Walmart testimony would be very hard for them to figure out for example. Practically impossible, we have google, research tools.
Still, Nurmi made a powerful closing argument,. But they didn’t buy it.
Nothing about the gunshot testimony in there.
Well, it’s complicated!
Of course they didn’t believe her story because they were watching the media accounts.
They rendered a chickenshit Murder One verdict on the basis of NO evidence but as a result of fear of death threats. But when it came to handing down a sentence, they chickenshitted again to wash themselves out of the mess they rendered.
How more clear can it get?
“wash their hands of the mess they rendered”
I would want to ask him WHAT contradictions, because really there weren’t any.
But I can understand how they THOUGHT there were.
There weren’t any, only the police tape, and the only reason for that is because they watched the media accounts beforehand.
My one regret – if I could have figured out Walmart before Amanda Webb testified, and got that to the defense team…. could that have made the difference?? Well, just possibly. Who knows.
I think it’s the way Juan Martinez worded things and jodi was really nervous so she would answer questions and add details. When she would add details Juan Martinez would literally POUNCE on the opportunity. It was horrible to see him ask questions and if you’re not a critical thinker and analyzer I can see how his “presentation” may have made her look like a liar. Plus he manipulated so much information like the Walmart receipts and her bank statement info/rental car charge. Unless you know and have used those sights and understand that Walmart isn’t always 100% accurate about their books you would fall for it.
Just the fact that the Walmart “expert” did a manual search of returns – what? And anyone who has returned something to Walmart has seen the pile of stuff in total disarray at the customer service desk. Additionally JM continuing to call the Kerosene can a gas can shows he was not telling the truth and didn’t care about the truth – he only cared that the truth could be and was suppressed and that his lies swayed the jury.
If I’m not mistaken aren’t petrol and kerosene cans differently coloured from each other so that they can be easier to distinguish which is which. Could someone please help me with this—-since it would stand to reason why JODI would have return it and it showed it being a kerosene can—-since she wouldn’t have been able to transport petrol in it.
I believe Kerosene cans are blue and gasoline cans are red so that a person would not mistakenly use the wrong fuel in an engine. If Jodi did have a blue kerosene can and was filling it at a gas station (along with her red gas cans) one would think that someone at a nearby pump would notice (someone with three fuel cans – and Jodi being a very attractive young woman she would be noticed) and would have said something to her.
Open note to Dr. Drew:
Hey doc thought you wanted to interview some of Jodi’s many supporters. Well here we are but I didn’t see a segment on your show – why? And I am sure you and all of your “behavior bureau” watched Jodi’s interviews and heard that she receives so much mail from supporters from around the world that the pile of mail was actually considered a fire hazard … hmmm. And it has been posted here that sometimes she has so much mail that some mail is “returned to sender” because she is over the jail’s limit on mail …hmmmm.
Well I guess we will see if you follow through but I doubt anyone with integrity would agree to be on your farcical show. You really should (actually all HLN shows should) have one of those messages on screen about how the show is fiction and not based on any real events and any similarities in names is coincidental.
I saw heard doc say that too. My thoughts throughout this entire trial were that HLN NEVER questioned or interviewed one JODI SUPPORTER. If you recall during the CA trial they had people outside the court pretty well divided into the haters and supporters.
He won’t the little pinhead.
Someone may actually tell the truth an d put an end to his prurient bucket of salacious nonsense.
I posted this on my website. I generally maintain more division in my writing (personal vs. business), but I entered this as a comment (by me) in our charity section.
NJS Says:
Three Cheers for the Nurmi/Wilmott & Arias Team.
And to Alyce LaViolette.
Mr. Martinez seemed to turn his cross examination of this witness into a platform for personal persecution.
As an American, I’m relieved that JA’s jury was Hung-(-despite all the media hype and Alexander family handwringing). Under the sixth amendment, we are entitled to certain rights—and, Wow, this was an expensive “little” fiasco. Thanks, Arizona.
Kudos to the four individuals on that jury who had the integrity to ’stand their ground’ during the deliberation process.
If I want to witness EXCESSIVE melodrama I’ll tune into a Latin soap opera (the acting is better).
Mr. Martinez…..perhaps if this ‘Prosecutor’ role doesn’t work out for you (especially after the State does a fiscal assessment of your performance vs. cost)— I believe that I see a future for you on Univision……(and just think of the autographs you’ll be asked to sign….)
In the meantime–I’ll let you know when MY ‘Survivor’ tee shirt arrives. I ordered white in a Medium.
A cause to crusade against Domestic Violence is well merited Regardless of what the reader chooses to believe about Arizona v. Arias.
Perhaps the Alexander family should buy a Dozen ($15 a pop, no shipping) with some of THEIR accumulated ‘Travis Alexander’ donation funds. I presume that a trustee is accounting for those charitable contributions received to date?
Namaste
NJS, Please don’t give that shit-bag Martinez any ideas about being on anything other than Sheriff Joe’s chain-gang himself—-and with a partner named BIG BUBBA—for certain assets he has! 🙂
Duke–I do hear you.
Frankly, Juan isn’t about to get anywhere with me or through me.
He’d also NEVER seriously go on Univision as an actor—it was actually an insult to what he perceives to be his professional style and legal mind.
Independently, I volunteer for a cause called Runway for Japan–models and designers (also in L.A. and New York City) to promote charity. At this point we have focused on the Tohoku earthquake of March 11 (two years ago)—–In this case, that point is irrelevant, however, I have purchased a ‘Survivors’ tee shirt and anticipate buying several more for friends in Tokyo. My primary work is as a stylist for television and movies.
I also sell high line designer goods (Hermes, Chanel, Vuitton, etc)—so—as we collectively did with ‘Runway For Japan,’ I would love to increase awareness to both Jodi’s case and the Cause that she is affliated with…..Frankly, there is a high instance of domestic abuse worldwide.
It couldn’t hurt to illustrate a POSITIVE international backdrop of interest in Jodi’s cause from the ‘right’ people. (it is a bit like product placement)
I am not a rogue vigilante, Duke (I promise). I don’t work alone— and my commitment to Jodi, The Arias family (as well as all that they have suffered at the hands of ‘THE PROSECUTOR,’) and the dedicated individuals (including you) that I’ve met on THIS support site who have upheld Jodi’s innocence will/do take precedence to anything I would do privately. That is Not my purpose. If I can be of help, I will wait to be asked.
That said, I would like to see more positive ‘press’ (from multiple sources) about the GOOD ideas/contributions that Jodi has presented (and continues to do) as the State of Arizona contemplates their next move in the Penalty phase.
(^0^) Jodi–my thoughts and prayers are with you.
Norma I didn’t seriously think nor feel that you were suggesting in any way whatsoever that JM had talent—only that JM doesn’t go on Univision and stink it up like he does when he enters a room and opens his mouth!!!!!! 🙂 Please forgive me if I offended you.
Hey Duke–No Offense taken. (truly, and thank you)
We are on the same Team HERE.
I think we are all relieved (somewhat) by yesterday’s verdict (or lack of one).
It must be Absolute Hell for Jodi to have faced this ALONE in the courtroom without her friend Donovan, without her mother, family…..WITH ALL the Alexanders and their supporters that they could possibly scrape up in that gallery. Seriously?
….I feel a need to DO more. That said….I’ll order MORE tee shirts. sigh.
Kudos to Nurmi and Willmott! What a strategic WIN for Jodi (–and Jennifer’s end game smile was genuine and warm)—that green/gray Look on JM’s face was Priceless. Hey Juan, you Lost your verdict—and a whole wad of cash for your County/State (…..and I’m sure that he’s aware that it didn’t help his swaggering reputation either).
Hang in there Jodi! (^0^)
Hey Norma I do think Kermit could find a job as a balloon -blower when places run out of helium!! Will you inflate? YES or NO!!!!! Judge mommy make the balloons inflate for me!!!!! 🙂
Has anyone heard way JA family was not there?
I have read that they believed it was just another juror question.
Yes, they believed it was “just another question”. Sandy is very upset they were not there for Jodi and “would never abandon her daughter at a time like this”. This is according to an interview I saw of Donavan last night. I did see footage of Sandy getting out of a car and just hope she was going to visit Jodi. But I have no confirmation of visit. Isn’t this just classic for this kangaroo kourt that Judge could not wait for Jodi’s family. I know I can hear all the kangaroo’s out there complaining but no disrespect intended.
What I have pieced together from previous poster: They were told not to come to the courtroom, that it was a jury question…not a verdict. Very disturbing to me why they were not informed correctly or why they didn’t wait on them…time will tell and more information will come out
I really hope Jodi will fight on with her head held high. She is innocent, and the truth matters. She should insist on the truth. It would be a tragedy is she settled for life in prison.
Besides her personal accomplishments, if she can be acquitted of all charges, it would shine a light on so many things that are wrong – the Maricopa County Attorney’s office, the lies, HLN, the DP, prison conditions, DV, everything. I hope she fully realises what an inspiring leadership figure she can be, and how much she can accomplish.
Amen to that, brother.
I was on Twitter and AZ central video taped the jurors getting on the bus. I thought the court sealed their names. Is this illegal? And BTW way to go Maricopa County protecting jurors identities.
Hypothetically speaking lets say the would’ve come back with a 2nd degree or manslaughter verdict do you think the crazy pitchfork holders wouldn’t harrass these people?
Is it just me or isn’t this a violation of people’s rights: jurors and jodi arias??? I’m yelling someone hear me!!!!!
Here’s the link
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2405490606001
Reported that jury foreman DID believe Jodi was abused mentally and verbally by TA. At least abuse was not discounted but felt for the TA family hence many of them could not reach a decision. He did not say how he voted.
JM not considering a plea out of respect for TA family. I am aghast that this family can drive this to the extent they have, using the state of AZ to seek their revenge.
These people are fucked in the head.
You don’t render a first-degree murder verdict because you feel sorry for the family, who was never close to Travis to begin with.
Another reason that family shouldn’t even have been allowed in the courtroom because of their antics.
He didnt talk about the guilt verdict. The juror foreman only talked about the penalty verdict. He didnt discuss what led them to 1st degree murder. We have to wait to see if he or other jurors discuss the guilt verdict later.
You don’t reach a decision on the basis of the family’s feelings, especially a family that never even knew Jodi Arias and wasn’t close to their brother.
He said it was very hard for them to reach a decision after listening to the victim impact statements. I think it became more real for him that they suffered a loss. He was referring to the penalty phase and if they should discount it then why allow the family to make victim impact statements?
Yes! The defense must get into that line of questioning if Jodi gets back on the stand. Ask questions about TA’s relationship with them, explain certain references in her journal that she wrote about how she wished family was more important to TA, how often (never!) they visited him or he visited them. And the defense team can show that out of the 80,000 thousand emails there were ____ from/to family.
I read somewhere that the TA family was NEVER close, and that in fact they were sick of him always asking them for money. How ironic that they are soaking the gullible public for every cent they can get. TA was always asking his girlfriends for loans/money also. Including Jodi. He was a real con artist. “Motivational speaker” my arse. Flim-Flam more like it.
Yes, thanks for clarifying that. I want to hear how the jurors came up with guilt of pre-med M1 and extreme cruelty. How on earth, if they felt there was abuse, they could come up with guilty on either of them. This verdict will be overturned on appeal.
Looks like there was a compromise among jurors in the guilty phase.
The pitch fork carrying jurors (racist) said they wouldn’t vote for DP if you will convict on M-1 & aggravating factor’s.
Then held out for DP … knowing the next jury could pick their pitch fork’s up & put Jodi to death.
I think the fence sitter’s on M-1 got hoodwinked by the pitch fork carrying juror’s.
Just my theory.
If abuse was not discounted, then why did they come back with an MI verdict? Couldn’t anyone in that room see through all the smoke and mirrors that the shit-wad and his pack of liars put before them and realize that the state was lying to them and that JODI was telling the truth? ]Why not speak up then? Why not say, Look the little shit-bag is trying this young lady for pre-meditated murder and demanding that we kill her to make his record look good —–when this is clearly a case of self-defense on JODI’s part…. let’s do THE RIGHT THING AND FIND HER NOT GUILTY OF ANY CRIME DUE TO SELF-DEFENSE !!! THAT’S WHAT HE FOREMAN SHOULD OF FOUGHT FOR IF< IN FACT< HE FELT THAT JODI HAD BEEN ABUSED<etc.,! Not be a lemming andfollow the rest of the lemmings off the cliff!
the foreman said the 18 days of Jodi on the Stent was not helping her and it was to inconsistencies in her story
beside the 3rd gas can i didn’t see any inconsistencies
I don’t even know if the 3rd gas can issue was truly an inconsistency, or just not handled well by the defense. Someone just may not have cleaned up the mess there.
See all of geebee2’s post with respect to that issue.
Who kept her on the stand for 18 days? The fucking shit-sag Martinez that’s who!!! He’s the one who lied ad twisted JODI’s words not her!!! How can those fuck-head jurors blame JODI—-when the entire prosecutorial goon-squad lied, hid evidence, attacked and threatened witnesses, etc., and they,…the jury, sat there that entire time and watched—yet evidently did not care—as the drone allowed this to take place every day—-and then say that JODI’s at fault for what their decision was!!!!!!!!!! Give me a fucking break!!!!! Their decision was based via their continuous watching of HLN, FB, twittering, etc. , and I wouldn’t put it past Guano trying to bribe them!!!
And there were still people who wanted to kill her?
WTF
Where is the humanity in this place?
So a guy abuses you – the jury believes that.
She contradicts herself on the stand – How – but OK, and they understand that that could happen to a person under the rabid attack of that chihuahua – so far so good.
Then they find her guilty of M1 and some want to kill her.
Seems to me the aggravation was on the part of TA and JM, or am I just nuts?
What a bunch of sick, perverted, mental dwarves. They ought to take JM and go hang out with Snow White in her little shack.
It was the goriness of the crime that the media and Juan Martinez kept playing up. My coworker parroted the “27 stab wound gunshot to the head” yesterday. He doesn’t understand why she did that but my point is playing it over and over is shocking for people. The defense needed other experts with medical examiners and discussed the wounds from a defensive perspective and they didn’t.
So true!! Me and my daughter have tried searching for some type of scholarly report on patterns of crime. I havent been successful, although every case that I have come across where there is an overkill has been in DV cases. Premeditation cases like Diane Downs and Susan Smith, although drowing your children while alive is heinous of course, it isn’t an overkill like the women who stabbed her husband 200 times. And in each of those two cases there was motive and a personal gain. I do not see any gain for Jodi. And lastly I might add, if, let us just say Jodi does have borderline personality it is said by experts that these people are not violent to others, its misconception they are cutters, they are suicidal, they difficult and needy, but not violent to others.
Boy these jurors are going to feel the hung out to dry by NG and JVM. They better watch their backs. What is so screwed up here is how and the hell did they come back with the M1. Unbelievable!
Woke up this morning a few degrees happier because of yesterdays events. However I must say to the jurors who held out against the death penalty—where the fuck were your damned brains at during the rest of the goddamned trial you morons! Why did you not see through all of the bullshit that the shit-spewing dirt-bag Martinez was screeching and yelling into your feeble minds before you came back with that totally asinine verdict of M!? Thank you for hanging the jury but no thanks for convicting a totally innocent person! Oh, BTW, JM got DPeed —and I don’t mean Death Penalty!!!!!!!
The main thing in the DP re-trial is NO CAMERAS!
They should take that to the highest court they can find if necessary, and I think they will win.
I also think a lot of the gas can nonsense can be put fully to bed, because not much made it through to closing arguments. Is that right? Well, we will see.
Good Morning Everyone
The Morning music post is still awaiting moderation (posted two links)
So here’s one.
Morning Music today was a two-fer
Brown Eyed Women
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvHEg7-4uqA
Lovely choice, Al. A favorite for sure.
One of my favorites for sure, along with about 400 other songs.
My son and I once tried to make a list of our favorite GD tunes. We finally decided it was any tune that had:
Jerry
Bobby
Phil
Pig
Billy
Mickey
Brent
Keith
Does anyone have a link to the jury foreman’s interview?
Dido,
I can’t find it.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19248546&ref=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FKJHsPypfj2
It is on NOW, here in Seattle.
Thanks, FLANG.
Thanks
Here is the interview of the jury foreman on Good Morning Americal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN4hN_vowwI
See post above at 5:18 am from “Jennifer From FL” – she has a link
I shouldn’t be amazed but I’m amazed that the Alexanders GLARED hatefully at the jury like, “how dare you???”
What in Gods name will the DP do? Saint Travis is dead he won’t come back. It’s too late.
The TA family most certainly glared at the jury and everyone. SA looked evil. JM looked so angry. The fact that the family and JM have constantly stated over and over that they want DP is a total disgrace to our judicial system. What goes around comes around.
So on some further research I found that at least in the one trial, whose records I could find (State v. Reeves), where the jury hung on the sentencing the re-trial consisted of both the aggravation and penalty phases. The reason behind this is a sort of legalistic parsing of the Ring v. Arizona decision by the SCOTUS.
The jury is the trier of fact. The DP is mandated on the balancing of Aggravation vs mitigation. But aggravation must be proved prior to even considering DP. The aggravation is a test of fact. Hence the jury must find aggravation. Because AZ separates guilt and aggravation, after the hung jury on the DP they actually repeated the aggravation part as well.
Also in Reeves, the defense put in new evidence including psych reviews. (As an interesting aside the defense psych expert in that phase was Dr Bayless, DeMarte’s ex-boss).
In the Reeves case the retrial for the aggravation and penalty phase lasted over 20 court days! And that case was a seeming slam dunk (of course the second jury did return the DP). This guy dragged a young woman out of her office, beat her head in with a brick, cut her throat, and the whole thing was on video tape from a high quality surveillance camera. He was later arrested driving her car, that he stole from the parking lot, again on video tape.
So it looks like even a death qualified jury sometimes balks at the actual death sentence, even in cases that seem more black and white than Jodi’s where they were basically trying for the DP on a person who is innocent of the charges for which she was, if I may say so, falsely tried and convicted.
So, me thinks this may be a good thing.
Me thinks you are right, too. Thanks for shedding legal light on this.
Al, I do have a question: Must the sentencing phase be complete before an appeal can be filed for the guilt and aggravation verdicts. It seems since they are separate that an appeal could be filed before sentencing but I do not know. Thanks for enlightening me.
PK
Don’t know the answer to that, but since a automatic direct appeal is only for DP sentences, that part at least can’t be done.
So can she appeal the guilt phase verdict? I guess she could always petition the court, but I would suspect (though I am no lawyer) that the appeals court would make her wait till the whole mess is done. Remember, just because she petitions, doesn’t mean they have to hear it.
Thanks, Al. I am sure all will be clear in time.
I hope you are right Al that the omens are good.
But what I cannot understand is how selecting another jury just to decide for or against giving the death penalty, can ever be thought of as just? The original jury were told not to talk about the case to anyone or read about it – I don’t believe for one minute they didn’t – but how can the same apply to12 new jurors? And what about the potential for influence of any comments from the media and more specifically, those jurors who wanted to give the DP? Of course it can work both ways, but the new group will also be death penalty enthusiasts and where will they be selected from?
Not only is this system crooked and flawed, the determination by the prosecution to continue to try and get the DP is frightening.
Zervakos (Jury Foreman) said he believed Alexander mentally and verbally abused Arias.
Jurors declined to comment and left the courthouse. But on Friday jury foreman William Zervakos told ABC’s “Good Morning America” that Arias’ testimony didn’t do her any good.
“I think 18 days hurt her. I think she was not a good witness,” he said.
“We’re charged with going in and presuming innocence, right? But she was on the stand for so long, there were so many contradicting stories.”
Zervakos said with the prosecutor’s aggressive style, that length of time testifying “would be difficult for anybody. I don’t think I’d want to sit on the stand for 18 days.”
Zervakos said he believed Alexander mentally and verbally abused Arias.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/23/judge-declares-mistrial-in-penalty-phase-jodi-arias-trial/#ixzz2UDgEzlvF
So, just as Nurmi feared – they convicted her for lying.
Numbskulls!
Well there you go. Sirlips was hoping they would give any reason but that one.
The only ‘”contradicting stories” were when JM cross examined he just made things up that he SAID she said on direct getting the jurors all confused…..and it WORKED. . I think the jury just ignored defense re-cross. they believed she was “mentally and emotionally abused”, but obviously not physically abused because there was no “documentation”. They obviously completely discounted that she said he attacked her and she was defending herself. Of course the “abuse was no excuse”…..but the ATTACK ON HER WAS. They didn’t buy it. No “reasonable doubt” in that…..they just somehow needed a visual or a “record’ in her journals to believe it. It is sort of like in the Casey Anthony case that people needed evidence or an admission by GA that he abused her or they wouldn’t believe it. Who records or videotapes their own father abusing them? And they somehow expected GA to admit to this on the witness stand?
Good Morning everyone!
My thoughts are on Jodi this morning wondering how she’s handling the events of yesterday. I’m also thinking about the jurors and what might be going on in their heads now that they are officially done with the trial.
Was there any word on what the split was for Death or Life. Was it more than one juror holding out for Life?
8 agreeing 4 refusing
Jennifer
I’m just so sorry for all you’ve had and are going through.
Here’s a little love.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4279gr0nE7w
Hello fellow Jodi supporters… My name is Sara real name. I was just reading last nights posts this morning and trying to acquaint myself with this website, ways to help etc. I have made several posts in the past. Now that I am familiar with this site… I will be looking for other ways to contribute. I am going to get my t shirt and I would like to make a donation….was bummed that you dont take CC . I have yet to set up a pay pal acct. But no worries I take care of that soon… Just wanted to let you all know that Im not all talk no action…was just learning the ropes… Lets see other ways that I can help…. I am in Utah but I have a BS in Paralegal Studies have worked in Justice Courts and Criminal and Family Law offices. Currently I am not working my atty retired and I stay home and help with my grandson. I have time to write I can make small donations here and there. I love to write in fact. As far as sending Jodi things… They are not allowed care packages…. you must go to a website and buy all things allowed thru this website and they then will be sent to her. She is allowed only 1 care package per QTR. and that package cannot weigh more than a certain amount. There is alot of food items some hygiene items some clothing basics, and a couple of appliances. For now she is allowed post cards but now that her status has changed she should be allowed regular mail. The mail will be reviewed checked before it gets to her but you cannot send packages or books… those must be purchased through Barnes N Noble they must be accepted by the jail and she is only allowed 2. Each state has its own rules but I believe most states follow these same rules. I love the bartering thought….yes she can gain many advantages with food so make those care packages yummy. Also… relaying to I believe it was Frank thinking that we have lost focus…..I guess maybe because I was SO new to this I did not realize in my celebration and upbeat attitude that we are after so much more than a Un unanimous no verdict. I was living in the moment and was just happy not to hear DP. I believe it is just the beginning to things possibly looking up. I think that possibly Jury wise the M1 is as far as the punishment will go and I have very good legal instincts I am more often than not right on my verdict calls knock on wood. From here on out should just be focused on one no DP which I doubt will occur and then after that getting the trial reversed or heard on appeals. WEll I thought I should introduce myself so as not to stick out like an outsider with my corny jokes random posts. I take this all very seriously although I do try to keep it upbeat light and spiritual for Jodis sake. She has had enough negativity I would like to see her swaddled in the positive for a while. Thanks.
Sara, in my state, the difference between domestic violence and adult abuse are separate offenses, both punishable. Do you know how those are handled and would separating the abuses be instrumental in getting advocacy for Jodi. Advocates here testify. Without them, 90% of the victims are ignored.
Good Morning Sara. Jaz is also my real name or a version of it. Thank you for taking the time to acquaint yourself with our site here. I am happy that you are here and ready to help in any way you can. 🙂
Great post Sara. Thank you for bringing your experience, your ideas and your positive words. I too am fairly new compared to many others here, but am committed to the long haul. I don’t post a lot because I am usually many hours behind the interactions but I just wanted to say thanks.
http://www.occupyhln.org/jodi-arias/state-vs-jodi-ann-arias-con-artists-exposed/
Please read.
Thanks Rhonda for re-posting this. This needs to go viral, I mean a gazillion hits viral..!!!
Thanks, Rhonda. She’s an Aussie, no less. So is this household (for better or worse) which includes a journalist, and yes PK, we’ll help the details ‘go viral’.
Justice for Jodi!
So the contradiction I’ve found in this trial is how a 50 year old virgin, namely Juan, who is obsessed with sex and death, could convince 12 people, who believed that Jodi was abused, to convict with M1. Where’s the sense in that? As for the family being so broken up. It’s more at the thought of the loss of revenue. That one sis could try to start a career playing Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. And the other who is a cop…please take her gun ASAP! As for the brother…I have never seen such hatred for the world visibly displayed on anyone’s face. No wonder his marriage failed. The ex better consider herself damn lucky! What a ghoulish bunch.
The brother looks so hateful! His wife should be afraid!
Gwen,
Not to mention CASH….Chris and Sky Hughes!! Scary bunch.
Yes I must include the cash sucking leeches…may you disengage and drop off the flesh of humanity. I know you don’t want to in case any nickels might still fall your way but do it anyway. And to the media…may you all be injected with truth serum and handed a mic on live TV so you can confess to the world that you’re nothing but money hungry, lying scum ratings whores.
My greatest hope is ALL of the above mentioned will meet in a dark alley! Problem solved!
🙂
That friend’s friend made me sick. She pretended to cry. What the Fuck? She is not even the family member of TA. Plus, she is the bitch who broke up the relationship between TA and JA. Isn’t she the one told T that J is bad news etc? Maybe she was jealous that JA is prettier than her. Who knows? If not for her, the whole story might not happened.
When I saw that Look on the brother Steven’s face: the look he gave to the jury: THAT was the look Jodi saw on Travis’s face that so scared the hell out of her. That brother looked like he wanted to beat the crap out of anyboy who might be available. NOW, can anybody doubt Jodi was abused by Travis?
And Samatha–what a peformance!!! Did you notice how her eyes kept scanning the cameras to make sure she was being filmed? Laughable.
So if the Alexanders don’t want to suffer anymore with a trial then don’t come back til victim impact statements and end of the trial. Life is easy they are the ones making it complicated or take turns! There’s a bunch of them! Do they not have problem solving skills? Oh wait they are using this as part of their scam to collect “donations.”
That’s what Jodi’s family is doing you don’t see all at once in court only her mother as that’s her MOTHER she brought her into this world.
This whole thing is being used for scam purposes!
If they don’t want to suffer anymore they need to just tell Martinez to offer a plea that Jodi will take – one that does NOT strip her of her rights to appeal.
THEN that family needs to get into some counseling to help them resolve the issues that obviously far pre-date the death of their abusive, pedophile brother.
THERE IS NO VERDICT that will give them peace because peace is not what they want. They want to keep punishing the world for their tragic childhoods.
Journee
Very well said.
Unfortunately, they don’t want peace…..they want revenge!
I do agree about counseling because this is far beyond finding peace and moving on with ones life. I wish they could read and comprehend SirLips excellent post yesterday on forgiveness. Forgiveness will be the only path to peace for them.
Journey I agree with you on so many levels!
I completely agree, well put!
Got a run for now,so to everybody at TEAM JODI—–have a great weekend—–and “talk” to you soon! GO TEAM JODI!!!! (And to all the haters ……you know who you are——Jungle-rot Martinez, Turd Alliance, Hucksters Lunatic Network, N Gargoyle, Just Vomit Mitch-know-nothing, Dr. Phew Windbag, and totally Vile Person—– – NA -NA BOO- BOO you got fucked yesterday!!!)
Nurmi has appealed the “cruelty” verdict to the Arizona Supreme Court:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/free/20130523jodi-arias-hung-jury-mistrial.html
It’s a ways down in the article, but the story as a whole is interesting. Jodi’s former lawyer Victoria Washington comments as well.
Great find!
Kira
I read the link (twice) and found no reference to an appeal by Nurmi on cruelty…also there were no comments by Victoria. Enlighten me where this information is. Thanks
I see it right on the page that the link leads to? Did you scroll all the way down?
foreman is saying
“There were so many contradicting stories.”
what stories is he talking about i dont see any contradicting stories (beside the gas 3rd can)
Agreed. I wish he had stated some of the contradictions. Only one I can even come close to is the returning of the gas or kerosene can. Never clarified. Receipt said kero, search was done for gas. I would say enough for reasonable doubt/not proven.
Stay tuned….I am sure there will be more interviews.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4btFEbhlV4
foreman saying on JM
“he is known for an aggressive style”
how does he know how Jm is known if not listening to the opinions during the trial if he is to aggressive or not, and reporters saying its his style
Well, to be fair, it doesn’t take but a few minutes of watching JM cross examine a witness to know for yourself that JM has an aggressive style … and to know that anyone else watching would also see that.
Some cheer it, some find it offensive, but everyone agrees that JM is aggressive.
It’s one thing to say “he has an aggressive style” and something else to say “he’s known for his aggressive style”.
BINGO…you win the prize!
I caught that too…wondered the same
Detective Flores warned Jodi in the interrogation tapes that the DA in AZ JM was the most aggressive (?)
I didn’t see the trial until Jodi was on cross-exam with JM … so I am not sure if the jury seen the interrogation warning from Detective Flores.
Personally I thought JM was RUDE & condescending to everyone in the courtroom – thinks he is smarter then everyone else – was allowed to make up theories (lies) he never did prove.
As everyone keeps saying – Kangaroo Court – The hard working taxpayers of AZ need to vote everyone of those politicians out of office who wasted 2 million dollars of their money trying to put a woman to death.
Eli,
I agree with you.
“he’s known for his aggresive style” was repeated in that one over and over with the talking heads. He heard it from one of them.
There’s no doubt anyone having a TV, juror or not heard something on this case.
Hello old (& new) Friends,
If you disagree with me, that is OK, but be polite in your dissension. I believe in the spirit of this page as well as the humor. I am aware of the tenor of the threads (and the title of this page), my heart does not choose a side, my mind has no easy thought.
I cannot be gleeful over any of this, just as I cannot be vengeful. I believe the death penalty is wrong, taking one life as “payment” for another is the definition of ludicrous. I have hope for Jodi ; but I grieve for her also, it cannot be easy to fight for your life on a daily basis. I pray for a respite and a renewed sense of strength in her battle. I think that Travis’s family’s reaction was one of pain and sadness on the continued battle; I know they have spoken out against Jodi, but I firmly believe they just want it over, maybe this will help them see that their “revenge seeking” is not a trait that they will be able to live with should it happen. I believe they can be helped to see the wrongness in this attitude, it is a prayer I continue praying. For many, including me, I would like a resolution. It would have been preferable to have a verdict, a finalization of all the last months for us, and years for Jodi and the family. I believe a Heavenly Father has a bigger, divine purpose in teaching us, His children the lessons we need. Maybe the resolution will be that there is no truly right answer in this case, nothing can make it all better for those involved. I am conflicted in my feelings. I have sorrow for all who are invested in this event. My heart is with all who believe in the sanctity of life, in the worth of a human’s soul. As always I pray for justice and fairness, for all.
Don’t know if your the old Bella that acquainted Travis, but happy to read your post. Forgiveness, love and peace for everyone is truly important. I hope everyone does find it although I don’t agree with how the Alexanders are trying to seek it. If it is the old Bella hope to hear from you more.
Morning,
Its me. I lurk as always.
Glad you’re hear lurking. 🙂
Silly you’re not lurking when you are posting 🙂 Good Morning Bella.
Hello JC, Team Jodi Admin,
I have read(reread and sometimes laughed my butt off) all of your titles and posts, I want you to write my Eulogy! I love ya all!!!! You are articulate, funny, and delightfully irreverent. Some adjectives I have been called, on occasion. We think alike in many things, but I cant quite develop the bravado to voice the thoughts aloud! Happy Friday!
🙂
There you are…I knew you were here with us all along..
Not sire how happy it kid. Jodi is still in jail. Travis is still dead and there is still way to much hate..and it’s way to cold here in Mi..LOL. I have missed you.
Yep, Im here. I lurk more that post. But i read everything.
SSDD… and for those of you who don’t know that acronym… SAME STUFF Different DAY!
I am working off the premise that “something good will come”. I have faith, and when faith lacks, I have you all and we have laughter!
Hi Bella, long time don’t see. Hope everything is ok with you and your family.
It’s our bella. I think Samantha shows signs of clinical depression by the way she crys in court. This is taking a toll on her.
Bella,
Very thoughtful post. No, there are no winners in any of this only lesson to be learned i.e. forgiveness, compassion, understanding, etc. Thank you.
Hello Bella ~ I hope that Travis’ family can find forgiveness in their hearts because without that I don’t believe they will find peace and comfort. In this case I’m not sure there can be fairness for all…at least not in the state of Arizona.
It’s good to know you are still around. Because you were close to those involved it was nice to read your objectivity during the earlier stages of the trial. Please feel free to continue to join us here. ♥
Welcome back, Bella. I always appreciate your posts and your different point of view. You are very wise.
Bella… Thank you! So glad you shared your thoughts …Missed You
She’s back.
I was wondering where you snuck off to.
I’m tooooo big to sneak far Sam. But thanks!
Bella, good to see you honey! I have thought about you for several days now. I hope you are well, I understand what you said although my hope is a little different from yours. Very good to see you.
I admire many things about Jodi, and one of those is her strength. Who among us could go through all that she has been through and still hold it together…
John, I have had the same thought time and time again. She’s amazing.
Jodi
Prayers and ((((((Hugs)))))))) as this journey continues to your Justice and Freedom.
Juan Martinez needs to spend time helping the Alexanders to see that they need to leave this murder 1 verdict and move forward. The vengeance of seeking death will only continue to cause pain for them. He could have been much better at helping that family. Instead he served to inflame the situation at every turn. Don’t tell me he was thinking of their healing in closing arguments when he showedTravis’ throat slit. He is an egomaniac. It isn’t about justice for him. It is about winning. His boss needs to take control of this thing and decide that the state has already lost enough money going for the DP.
I don’t think it would be in Jodi’s best interest to take a plea at this point. There are just too many things that happened in this circus act that can be used for appeal.
If it goes forward, there needs to be a change of venue and a change of prosecutor. I think the lawyers would have to stay on as they don’t have much time. I don’t know if that would work with a change of venue though. My hope is that the head Attorney sees the light and stops this circus. In the meantime rest up Jodi and pray.
JM try and talk sense and compassion into someone – you have got to be kidding?
If he shows compassion doesn’t that mean he’s in love with someone – I think that’s what he accused Samuels of doing.
Juan Martinez is one sick puppy. All that little man rage…But, I digress. He will NEVER get a unanimous death sentence and he knows it now. If FOUR out of 12 jurors refused to give him the big enchilada, after the TOTAL FARCE of a “fair” trial, he will NEVER get it with a supposed new jury of 12 who will never get to see the case in chief (And all the cheap tricks Martinez pulled). All they will see is the very sick little man, hopping around like a tiny bantam rooster with its head cut off. He was so red faced enraged because he knew from the very beginning if he didn’t get the DP, there would be no going forward. Does anyone believe the Maricopa County powers that be are going to let him another 2 million dollars down that rabbit hole? It is over. Jodi needs a true power-player attorney to call his bluff and get a good deal for Jodi. And Fuck Samantha Alexander. I wonder if her commanding Officer knows she is perpetrating a fraud. Someone should suggest a RICO investigation into those Memorial” and “Legacy” web-sites.
Aren’t rico violations associated with mob money? I remember reading about old mafia being charged with rico violations.
Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. It encompasses a ton of crimes, including mail fraud. I surely hope the Alexanders and CASH are keeping real good records as to where that money goes, because otherwise they are looking right down the throat of a RICO prosecution. Maybe someone should write to the US Attorney for the district they live in.
I agree with everyone thing you said. Forgiveness is needed for a person to move forward.
Good Friday Morning!!!!!
Good Morning Moni,
(((((Moni)))))
Hey Ann!!
Morning Moni.
And how’s SoCal this fine day?
A little cold and overcast Al!!!!
We got that too. It was 90 the last 3 days and 57 and raining now.
Looks like there was a compromise among jurors in the guilty phase.
The pitch fork carrying jurors said they wouldn’t vote for DP if you will convict on M-1 & aggravating factor’s.
Then held out for DP … knowing the next jury could pick their pitch fork’s up & put Jodi to death.
I think the fence sitter’s on M-1 got hoodwinked by the pitch fork carrying juror’s.
Just my theory.
I’m not sure how I feel about yesterday’s “verdict.”
I cannot believe that the jury could not see that Jodi does NOT deserve the death penalty.
The “talking heads” wondered why Jodi was so upset yesterday? Well, I can only guess why. Her life is now on hold and she has to do this all over again! DUH!
Don’t hate me for saying this, but, I think JM needs to concede defeat for the DP and do the right thing by letting the judge sentence Jodi to Life.
I hear you Nicole. This things headed to the appeals court in any case, and the more I read of how AZ Appeals courts issue their decisions, the better I feel about this particular case and Jodi’s chances on appeal.
So I agree, give it up at this stage JM and just let it move through the appeals process. I don’t know how they’ll ever sustain another mini-trial at this stage with a fair jury – unless they move it to some part of AZ populated by 12 people living in cabins in the woods with no TV, newspaper or internet. Anything short of that and the appellate issues just keep piling up.
My dear baby brother..do you think there are people living in the backwoods of AZ that can read?
I heard that it will not be up to Jm but his boss and the pressure from the family.
I do not want to hear another word about how poor they are. I’m sorry for their lost a little. But they need to come to terms with the facts that he was not a saint. That is why he is dead and not by they hands of Jodi. But when you are full of hate you can’t see what you don’t want to.
You’re right about JM’s boss having to decide, but I saw somewhere he said he was going ahead. I think it was in the same TV broadcast with the jury foreman.
In as far as these folks in AZ being able to read – I don’t know? But they have a strange form of justice around there.
I once got a speeding ticket coming out of Yuma Proving Ground where we were doing some testing. I was doing 65 in a 55 zone. They wrote me a ticket that mandated that I appear in court. Now I live in MD and the court date was two months away. So I called the court to see if I could just pay a fine or something and get away with it. They told me I had to appear in court but could do it over the phone. When I called in at the appointed time, the case was called, the judge asked if I had something to say, I said not really. He said the fine will be $750 and $100 court costs for a total of $850. I said “What?”. He said – how about $425?. I said “Isn’t that steep?” He said, “Oh OK lets take it back to $850”. I said “whoa there your honor, guess I’ll take the $450”. He put me on hold. Then the clerk picks up and says “How will you be paying that – we take Amex, Visa, MasterCard and Discover, or you can mail in a certified check”.
Many months later I was talking to someone else about testing at Yuma Proving Ground, and the first thing he asked me was ” How many speeding tickets did you get? And did you settle for $425?”
They’ve got a racket going on there.
@Al
can you give details on what your positive thoughts in the appeals process is based on? i need a little hope
Eli,
I think they ( someone ) will investigate all of Maracope County.
There’s just too much to this case to NOT do it.
That’s my hope.
I don’t know about appeals.
I need to hear from the jurors own mouths what they heard or saw that was proof beyond a reasonable doubt that this was premeditated and or felony murder. All I heard from trial testimony was circumstantial evidence and speculation and lots of bullying and yelling from Juan Martinez.
That doesn’t cut it for ‘beyond a reasonable doubt.” Bullying and screaming and acting like an ass doesn’t provide proof. It provides intimidation.
There is simply no proof of M1 or M2 in this case,. Period. This trial had no business getting to a DP phase.
Sherry Shithead runs the worst courtroom I’ve ever seen. She allowed anything and everything from the Prosecutor and the gallery (Alexander Siblings) I have never ever seen things happen in a courtroom that happened in this courtroom. She had ZERO control.
What a complete and total cluster fuck this all was. The ONLY good thing is the HUNG jury for life or death and I can’t believe 8 people even w/o any real proof of M1 or M2 still wanted Jodi dead.
I’m frankly disgusted and pissed off but happy that Jodi didn’t get death.
If the Alexander siblings have any say in it I KNOW they want Martinez to go for Death still. Those people are messed up in the head. I would hope they have little to no say in continuing on for death. I have news for them. Even Jodi’s death wouldn’t make them happy. They WANT to be miserable and for people to feel sorry for them.
Okay. I’m done for now.
I hope everyone here is doing alright this morning. You guys all ROCK! I’m proud of all of you and I’m proud of JW, KN and Mitigation Specialist Maria DelaRosa and I’m especially proud of Jodi!
Joe,
When people harbor so much bitterness, nothing can make them happy.
But you are right – Jodi’s death will never make them happy – not if they are human. Cheering along a person’s death, no matter what the reason, has got to leave a dark hole in your soul. It has to.
al, it is what this country has come to. It is no different than when Osama bin Laden was killed and people gathering in front of Whitehouse cheering “USA, USA” as if it was a worldwide soccer game final score.
I know I said I was done but I lied.
The state would be foolish to spend more money and more time trying to kill Jodi . How much money does Arizona have? Changes are they lose again.
Take when they got (but are going to lose in the long run) and be done with it.
Hey Joe just a question. I am from Canada and I know if one of our provinces had such a trial and was even CONSIDERING doing a retrial that they couldn’t afford there would be a major public outcry if that province approached the federal government for funding for a retrial. Is Az self sufficient enough to afford the expense or do you think they might be looking for federal $$. Perhaps this is a stupid question as I don’t know how your government works compared to ours. It just seems that if everyone is bitching about the money, other states would have a right to complain if Az was looking for outside help to keep this rediculous witch hunt going.
Good MORNING!! I am happy for this small victory, but I will NOT be content until Jodi is FREE!!
I am anxiously awaiting an appeal and I will do everything in my power to help get just that. I know in my heart of hearts we can and WILL make this happen. In the meantime, I am committed to doing ANY and everything that I possibly can to make Jodi comfortable and show her she has UNWAIVERING support.
FUCK the haters! Only a DEMON would CRY because another person was not sentenced to DEATH!! I am not the most religious person, but even I know that PRAYING TO GOD FOR SOMEONE TO DIE IS BLASTPHEMY!! And anyone who believes in the Bible KNOWS that BLASTPHEMY is UNFORGIVABLE!!!
I am so grateful for all of you and the dedication to see this thru. SJ mentioned there will be a new site dedicated to Jodi’s freedom, and I can’t WAIT to get started!!
Morning Joe and Kmiller!!!!!:>)
I totally agree. The more I watch the trial, the more I dislike the Alexanders. Five years passed since TA was killed; and they didn’t see their brother very often when he was alive . I believe that normal people can’t cry all the time in such situations. Something is wrong here. They are either psychopaths that enjoy being hysterical , or these tears are just fake, and they are trying to manipulate the jury and other people!
I just watched the Donavan interview. What is up with Sherry Shithead?? She is the person responsible with making sure all party’s are notified to be in the courtroom. So Sandy knew nothing about the fact that the decision was in. That’s is just f’d up.Why isn’t this making headlines.
I HATE Sherry Shithead. Biased, cruel, evil, bitch.
No wonder Jodi looked upset. She figured her family abandoned her.
Jodi probably guessed correctly that the court was deliberately leaving her family out. When I think of what Jodi knows that we don’t know about Mea Culpa County and she’s still keeping it together….amazing!
Judge could give 2shits about her family… She wanted the DP for Jodi and got all choked up when she had to delcare a mistrial on the sentencing phase…. 4christ sakes…. she couldn’t find her fking kleenex… ” I will be back to personally thank each one of you” that is after she gets a tissue from her office…
That was a terrible interview with the jury foreman. Why wasn’t he asked any good questions? ABC = HLN shadow arm.
LEGAL QUESTION
Well, two, actually.
1) I know that, for the most part, the appellate process is about making sure the law was adhered to during the trial phase. But isn’t it true that appeals CAN be lodged on the grounds of ‘new evidence’?
2) If so, does the ‘new evidence’ have to support the defendant’s claims/plea in the trial phase? What if new evidence supports the defendant’s earlier statement to police?
Journee,
From what I gather, I had looked at this earlier, the new evidence can be anything that can lead to a different verdict. The new evidence based appeal actually seems to be tricky, just as all appeals are. So it seems that the grounds are:
1. The evidence must be new, and its discovery must have been at some stage where it could not have been previously entered into the trial.
2. The evidence must of substantial enough nature, that given a reasonable jury, and when taken into account with all the rest of the evidence presented at trial, there should be a reasonable chance that the outcome of the trial would have been different.
It seems like if the evidence existed prior to trial, and was available to the defense, and they chose not to put it on, then the appeal is made on an ineffective assistance of counsel bases. If the evidence was available but the trial judge didn’t let it in, then the appeal is based on judicial error. If the evidence was available to the prosecution, but they didn’t turn it over to the defense, then the appeal is based on prosecutorial misconduct (Brady violation).
If the appeals court feels that the evidence, even if new, is not sufficient to make a difference then they uphold the old verdict.
So that answers your first question. The next one is a little more tricky. So we have a situation where defense counsel presented a case based on a story that was “essentially” untrue. Why they did this is unknown, however, new evidence shows that the defendants original story was in fact true. Haven’t come across that one, but I’ll do some research and see what I can find.
AA?
“So we have a situation where defense counsel presented a case based on a story that was “essentially” untrue. Why they did this is unknown, however, new evidence shows that the defendants original story was in fact true.”
I’ll leave the ‘why’ of the defense counsel’s actions to AA – she’s been having a discussion on this very topic over at Strike Lawyer’s blog spot.
But I am thinking the psychiatric testimony, the blocked memory, the ‘fog’ if you will, might support any claims by Jodi of being pressed into a false confession for purposes of trial. If her own memories were so tenuous and fragile, she might have been ‘convinced’ that she was misremembering.
Journee
I was answering from a general point of view, not associated with this case, but some general hypothetical case.
The situation with this case is different, if we believe that the intruder story was in fact true and the self defense story was something suggested to her by someone – again I’ll leave the identity of that someone alone.
I think, leaving legalistics aside, this situation, if true becomes a huge issue for the defense, and probably not in a good way. I don’t think any good will ever come from Jodi changing her story yet again. That will just not fly, unless there is some concrete evidence showing the presence and involvement of some other parties in the killing. Even if that evidence does get discovered she will have to have a really good explanation for her self defense story and will in fact probably end up having to rovide some sort of explanation that will allow some future jury to believe why she told the other story. If it ever comes out that the story was suggested to her by one of her defense attorneys, and if she can prove it (which would of course require her to waive any attorney client privilege) then the attorney who suggested, and fostered it would end up in a heap of trouble, and when I say heap – a REAL BIG HEAP – because that is suborning perjury.
Now an argument could be made that she was in a mentally vulnerable state and even suggestions can have a sort of coercive effect (after all that’s what happens to people in some forced confession situations). But to make that fly you would need at least two things. Firstly you would have to have some very strong evidence of the other parties involved, and secondly you would need to be able to show the emotional and psychological state and also the way the suggestion was implanted. In the forced confession scenario its normally very straight forward, because it happens in a short period (24-48 hrs), with the defendant under great duress, with a record of the constantly evolving story and the words of both the defendant and the police on record. I don’t know what they have or would have in this case.
So even though, there is a possibility that something more than what meets the eye exists here, I don’t think they could ever take that tack. I think the defense has a much better chance of an appeal on the basis of various and sundry instances of judicial error, prosecutor misconduct, pretrial publicity, etc and then retrying this case with a clearer view towards how this prosecutor will turn his pigs-ear of a case into a silk purse.
Thank you so much, Al.
I just now managed to work my way upthread to find this again.
And you said what I was afraid you were going to say…. that it might make Nurmi look REALLY bad.
But DAMN, I am quite sure that if there WAS someone else involved in this, they were complicit (and probably even quite visible) in setting Jodi up. And I want THEM to pay!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=6GkGH4PV5_4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6GkGH4PV5_4
Another Jodi arias juror that was harassed by the media when he left court yesterday.
How did Jodi have a fair trial with this treatment towards jurors?
Good Morning Everyone,
I too believe that this was never a pre-meditated case that warranted the DP. Jodi got shafted and framed, in my humble opinion. Yesterday, was indeed a victory for the DT…and for Jodi…bless her. I’m hoping that in the next couple of months, someone (juror(s)) will come to the plate and come clean with whatever they saw or read while under the court’s admonition. I’m praying this whole dam thing gets overturned, and our sweet Jodi can walk free among us…I want this sooner than later. I live in Canada where we don’t have the DP, so it’s a little foreign to me, to see so many people wanting her dead..and actually crying, because she didn’t receive the DP yesterday. I, as many of you, have lost faith in mankind, and praying for some kind of divine intervention as this case moves forward. I don’t believe for one second, they’ll be able to find 12 people who have not heard of this case, and have not formed an opinion…unless of course, they’ve been living under a rock, in a swamp somewhere. JM should just give this up, and let the appellate process begin. If he doesn’t, I’m convinced he will lose the next round, and given his HUGE ego, I’m not certain that he’d want to risk that.
I’m so proud of JW and KN…now it’s time to bring out the big guns, and for people to show courage and bravery on behalf of Jodi, and show all the haters that goodness will prevail.
To the Admins….moving forward, if there’s anything I can do to contribute, research…anything, I’d be more than happy to ‘dig in’. I’m in the process, as we speak, of writing letters to some people (who are pro-jodi) who I think may be of great help in getting the word out, in a postitive, eloquent way. Not like the circus monkeys on HLN…God Bless our Jodi and DT…((((Jodi, JW and KN))))….and God Bless everyone on this site who have put in tireless hours up to this point in breaking down this trial so that people like myself, can get a better understanding of what is going on. For all of that I humbly thank you…
I’m happy that Jodi at least got a hung jury and a mistrial in this first go round but please don’t agree to any sentence that would disallow appeals. I admit that when I first became aware of this case it seemed pretty cut and dried to me. After all when you hear almost 30 stab wounds, a cut throat, and a gunshot wound to the head what else are you supposed to think? It was only after seeing some of the photos of these two people together and I saw the smugness and arrogance he displayed that I saw that there was much more to this than meets the eye. Then when I started watching the trial and heard his voice on the phone conversations and saw the text messages I realized what had actually happened. Travis was only in love with himself and he used and abused Jodi for his own sick purposes. He brought all of this on himself and his family should take their marbles and go home now just like Judge Seidlin said.
I think the words “stab wounds” were over-broadly used, deliberately. Judging from the experts’ testimonies, many were just cut marks. I think Jodi just lost it, went blank, and her instinct to live kicked in. I do not know if any of have ever had an “out-of-body” experience. They are real. My husband was severely injured in an accident which I witnessed. For a period of time immediately afterwards I was not “there”. I was somewhere just above my head watching the police try to interview me. My floating self kept screaming at my physical self to answer the Police officer, and I finally snapped back into my body. Trust me, shock can do strange things to a person. You get scared enough and your mind goes elsewhere so you do not die of fright.
Another segment from the foreman of the jury interview. He said “looking at this young woman and the brutality of the crime, just doesn’t add up”. You think?? Well, there is reasonable doubt. I am so upset and wished KN had used the chart of “reasonable doubt” that was used in the CA. That was a reminder and drove home the point of exactly what REASONABLE DOUBT is.
By the sound of it he is doing the usual thing, and asking the defendant to prove her innocence, when it is the prosecution’s job to prove guilt, and NOTHING in the prosecution case “adds up”.
Most people are like this, the idea of the “presumption of innocence” is really a myth, unfortunately.
But at the appellate stage, things work differently, I think ( well I certainly hope ).
Morning!
First off, I’ve been reading some prev comments on how Judge Pickles supposedly “reacted” when speaking to the jury…..alright, I will not let CASH tweet etc..that she was “crying” for them!!! Have they ever thought that not EVERYTHING revolves around them?
I can’t stand this Judge..she was bias towards the Pros from the start and should of had the jury sequestered..but, more than likely, she was UPSET that after all of these months, and the money that was spent on the trial, the sentencing verdict was hung!! No Judge would ever want an outcome like this in a trial! She wasn’t crying for the “family”!
So I will not hand that over the Hughes, Alexanders, HLNrs…no..she wasn’t crying for you!!
Also, I have a question…Doesn’t a new jury have to be voidured (sp) questioned just like the initial jury??? Such as have they been exposed to anything in the case??? They can’t just pick jurors and seat them can they w/o this questioning??? And if that is true, then there is no way in hell that Jodi could have a new jury seated that would not be totally biased! Can someone please let me know about that, as last night when we were talking about new jury I was feeling ill…How could just seating random jurors w/o questioning first be even randomly fair/constitutional ????
Thanks for info if anyone knows!
I guess everyone is on the vent page?? All I wanted was someone who has some legal knowledge to help me understand the question about the new jury being questioned before selection…
First the new jury pool will fill out a questionnaire on whether they could apply the states death penalty law. That weeds out (quite unfairly if you ask me) people that for either moral, religious or thoughtful (ie it does not deter murder) reasons. It automatically puts a bias to allow pitchfork carries in and pacifists out.
They they attorneys ask questions. Each side has the ability to automatically dismiss a certain number of jurors. Finally some can ask to be excused for hardships. Then they have a jury.
It is possible in this case to have people lie while they hide their justice for travis ribbons. Then there are some in the jury pool like me who are open minded and fair. 🙂
correction: That weeds out (quite unfairly if you ask me) people that for either moral, religious or thoughtful (ie it does not deter murder) reasons are opposed to it.
Jeff!! Thank you for answering my question!!! I was very concerned that there w/b no jury questioning b/4 selection! But I know what you are saying about poss tainted jurors getting in…hopefully they will be weeded out, or it will be shown that there are NO potential impartial jurors out there!
Thanks again!! That question has been bothering me since last nite! 😉
I agree that the judge wasn’t emotional about the family – that’s just Chris Hughes being stupid and arrogant as usual. She was emotional toward the jury and their months of service.
Mee too Kira!
lol, i’m tired..”me” too, not “meeeee” lol
I am not so willing to give that judge the benefit of the doubt. Do you remember when she allowed the jury question to be posed to Jodi on the stand: “How do you define skank?” There was NO relevant value to that question and it was extremely prejudicial to Jodi. A judge with more experience with a DP trial would have NEVER let that in. The tears were totally inappropriate. That show of emotion, for whatever reason, in and of itself may be grounds for appeal. If she can’t control her emotions she has no business being a judge.
Lynn,
You are right a new jury will undergo voire dire. As I had posted yesterday the process of selection will go something like this
1. They will ask if they’ve heard of the case and its issues. Those who say NO will be selected (of course I don’t know how they’ll serve on the jury with their pants on fire).
2. Now if they can’t get enough people, they’ll ask the remaining if they can still be impartial and act only on the evidence. Those that say yes will be selected complete with flaming pants.
3. If they still can’t find enough people the judge may grant a change of venue (if she hasn’t done that yet). They will then move to another county and ask those same questions again – hoping to find enough people out of touch with the world, or willing to lie their asses of.
4. If they still can’t find enough people to fill the panel – they could try in yet another county, or call up more folks and go through the same process again.
5. If they still can’t find enough folks, the judge can postpone the trial and take it up again when she thinks peoples’ memories have faded – yeah right!
6. If they still can’t find enough then she can keep trying or the County Attorney can give up, or she can rule that she can’t impanel a jury – in which case I don’t know what happens.
Thank you also Al for the info! I especially enjoyed this “Those that say yes will be selected complete with flaming pants”. Aint it the truth!!! Thanks again, I missed your post yesterday!
Here is the interview of the jury foreman on Good Morning Americal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN4hN_vowwI
Thanks PK for sharing that! Pretty even split w/ jury!! 😉 AND they believe TA at least verbally and emo abused Jodi!! Thanks again~
How they got to pre-med/M1 guilty verdict is beyond me. Travis is NOT the victim, Jodi is. This to me is such a distortion of the facts. How on earth they could find her guilty is beyond me.
I don’t understand that either PK….The jury had to have been watching media….
What days did Alyce testify? Today it is my mission to listen to all of her testimony and compile a of the excellent information she shared with us on DV.
*a list
Nevermind. Her testimony starts on day 36. 🙂
Oh great! HLN is doing a age progression of Jodi and how she will look in 20+yrs. Of course, STAY TUNED….they will milk this one out all day. They are so desperate for anything to air about Jodi. They now are projecting into the future. Well, try to keep this cash machine rolling in anyway possible. I wold say ads this to the appeal issues.
I saw that briefly too – so lame. They were going on about Jodi’s need for attention – hey, she didn’t ask you clowns to obsess about her for months! Vinnie looks like he needs a few pints of blood and JVM is hitting the bottle again.
I hope JVM is just doing her shtick because if her antics and hysteria is for real…she needs some serous professional counseling.
i think k & j need a lot of advice from a number of very experienced national criminal trial and appeal’s attorneys, the experience largely being gained in capital murder trials, on how to cut it up very roughly or brutally, in the courtroom, with the twin evils, the crazed and hysterical zealot jm and the equally partisan bigot udge stephens
Goodmorning!!!! One thing about what they’re saying about the jury: two or three where crying and one had said, “im sorry” to TA family. SO, THAT DOES show that some jurors DID in fact put feelings into the conviction. I KNOW it would be hard for anyone to put feeling aside BUT aren’t they suppose to look at the LAW and NOT feeling or how bad they felt for the family???? Im not a cold person and I wouldn’t expect any of the jurors to be but now I blv some jurors did take into account TA family. ALL that time they set there making faced, worked with at least that ONE juror. The one that apologized.
I am shocked over the apology.
Very good point LC! Oh, you are certain NOT a cold person! You’re Latina for God’s sake.:-)
Was that before or after the admonition was released? Probably would not matter anyway. Anything goes in that courtroom!
Happy Friday everyone.
It seems that the court/judge wanted to punish Jodi and her family by leaving them out of the courtroom yesterday..that goes to show the extreme bias of Pickles and her Courtroom!
Hung jury 8 to 4..I predicted this and believe the jury made deals with each other to reach M1 but not DP.
If the State decides to offer a deal on sentencing, Jodi should not take one with a provision for no appeals. I can’t believe that would even be lawful?? Life with parole only!
We go on from here, the fat lady hasn’t sung yet !!
Hoping you all have a great long weekend.
xoxoxo
I agree, Pat. She should consider any plea but NOT one that excludes appeals. Appeal is off limits regarding a plea deal.
Is that even possible to do? She has a constitutional right to appeal. Doesn’t seem right that she could be threatened with death to give up her rights. But I’ve learned that anything done by bat shit crazies in AZ is possible.
Morning Pat! I agree, plea w/o no appeal..and as Jeff has stated below, I didn’t think that was constitutional that Jodi would have to give up her right to an appeal…I would think that Kermie would just have to take death off table and settle for Life!
I hope they are able to continue this on time and that Arizona is boiling hot in July, AND that all those idiots with nothing better to do than hang around outside the courthouse, FRY in the hot, Arizona sun.
I’m with you, Bev. It can get as hot as 120 degrees here in July. I hope those pitchforkers feel the wrath of hell that they deserve.
It is AWFUL here in the summer, no one in their right mind would be outside anywhere here, even in the shade, so this will surely show you who is not in their right mind if you see them out their melting in the sun, I will LOVE to see the caked on makeup dripping off of JVM’s face as she tries to report from there, good frickin luck
there, out there
Can someone tell me, did Jodi give any kind of information about where she may have disposed of the gun and rope? Was it in some trash bins (that rings some kind of bell for me) or was it just out somewhere in the vast desert?
I believe she testified that the rope went into a trash bin somewhere and the gun went out into the desert.
Wouldn’t it be great if someone found the gun and it was proven not to be the grandfather’s? (Too bad the only landmarks in the desert are cacti.)
The lead juror believed that Jodi was abused. I’m glad at least one of them did, even though he still found her guilty of M1. How can you hear the vile things Travis was saying and NOT believe he was abusive?
That was good to hear since it means they didn’t completely buy the Saint Travis BS. But I’d like to know how they bought that premeditation trail. It was weak at best. Worst case they should have concluded murder 2.
They probably though her motive behind premeditation was the abuse. Had Martinez actually presented the case in that way, I would have been able to see why jurors settled on premed. (Even though I disagree).
However, Martinez did not do this. Instead, Martinez said the motive was Cancun….. guess the jurors wanted to find for premed, that is why they decided to find an alternate motive.
I agree, Nk. That’s probably what they (or at least this juror) did. However, it would not be a stretch to say (lol) that the abuse could have let her to snap (heat of passion), thus manslaughter. Like Jeff said, the premeditation concept was weak.
led her*** grrr I keep making typo’s today for some reason.
Agree Jeff..I’m wondering now why the witnesses that Darrel was talking about that would testify in behalf on Jodi’s character b/4 she got involved with TA that would reinforce that SOMETHING happened to Jodi w/TA and the Mormon Clan that was seriously wrong, and would of bolstered her self-defense claim…maybe that would of changed the outcome of the M1 verdict…
IMO, the 5 that voted premeditation only were paying particular attention to the jury instruction that premeditation can be formed in the instant before the act.
As several of us anticipated, they couldn’t get around the neck wound. They may have been willing to believe she was defending herself against an abuser, but that she had to have DECIDED to kill him when she cut his throat.
(I think the other 7, the ones that voted premed AND felony, had just bought into JM’s bullshit because no other explanation makes sense).
Good news. It has been reported KN has filed an appeal.
Was it an appeal on the aggravating factors?
Awesome. Hang in there KN and JW…you will have justice for Jodi:)
Kelly Collins
kn and jw must be getting worn down
who wants to be a criminal trial attorney ?
anyone ?
thought not lol
YES!!!!
Vinnie Pollupstain..U are a sik sonofabitch
Being a complete dickhead towards Jodis mom when they said she was not notified there was a verdict on hln just now
I wouldn’t put it past him NT..I think that all of this is going to come back and bite HLN in the ass!!
Yes Vinnie is a true low life. Did he not make it in the courtroom so he turned NG for drama lessons. They make me sick wearing their goofy ass TA buttons n ribbons.
If they believed he was abusive then it has to be reasonable doubt that, of the two of them, she was the one who initiated the violence. Helloooo!
kn and jw needs a LOT more money to hire additional very experienced criminal trial attorneys, investigators, support staff, office space etc for the vast amount of work still needed for the appeals etc
otherwise they’ll be at a unjust manpower and resources disadvantage to the county’s/state’s prosecution case, because the “state” have police, attorneys, experts, office space, support staff available or on call
Chris Hughes can keep on talking. Add to the appeal-able issues. Judge was sorry for the family..add to the appeal. Juror sorry for the family..add to the appeals.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/free/20130523jodi-arias-hung-jury-mistrial.html
Defense attorney Willmott told The Arizona Republic that despite rumors, she and Nurmi intend to stay on the case if the penalty stage is retried.
“I think resolving it without retrying it would be best for everyone involved,” she said.
I wonder if that means if a plea deal is offered on the condition she does not appeal that Willmott and Nurmi would advise her to take it :/
I think they have been too careful to preserve issues for appeals to advise her to give up her appellate rights.
JW is just trying to keep the CA’s office’s feet to the fire BEST FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED TO RESOLVE WITHOUT RETRYING – say it louder Jen!
I’m happy to hear they are both staying!!!!
Me too Moni! I was worried about them leaving..they know this case so well!!
PK is that an exact quote ?
they have a lot of leverage
more so if the county is paying the entire bill
hope the state is not picking up any of the tab
resolving it would involve taking account of appeals and post conviction review which almost certainly would be successful
which would mean an entirely new trial,
doubt if the county has the stomach for it any more
time served by jodi !
while jodi was illegally deniied bail from the partisan police judge stephens who demanded execessive bail ?
also, the nationally and internationally, video cast trial has exposed arizona as a state run by totally corrupt officials, corrupt police, corrupt prosecutors and a corrupt judiciary
ie crooks and thug
the mob, not the one of yesteryear, but a new one
the mormon mob
arizona will now be seen as part of the rapidly expanding fascist mormon theocracy in the mountain mid west
not a pretty picture for arizona for show the nation and the world
is arizona a state any sensible american and international tourist would want to visit ?
yep the defense has a lot of leverage
someone will speak with kermit and pickles
this hasn’t been a career enhancing time for both of them
except by the rabid crazies who don’t have any real power
just hot air
the jury foreman showed the significance of improper evidence being allowed before them ie the jury, by a partisan judge only too eager to allow any and all improper evidence in from the crazed vindictive unethical prosecutor
maybe move the penalty phrase away to a non mormon controlled state ?
california ?
I think Jodi looked adorable in her ponytail! No wonder so many are jealous of her.
An article in today’s AZ Republic noted that it was mostly women who were rabid death penalty vultures in the crowd. Men seemed more passive and more inclined to life. Now the haters would say its because we all have a hard on for Jodi. But I submit to you that it has more to do with women being jealous of Jodi’s beauty and intelligence, and some wierd lust for a dead Mormon guy that they think was some saint.
Perhaps they long to be tied to that tree while he rapes them up the ass?
wow..I was actually thinking that is was the women on the jury that had a hard time imposing death….leave it to the haters to twist things around…Jodi and her “magical powers”…whatever..
I believe you are absolutely right! Many men I know are saying Jodi is HOT! And the ladies are so damn jealous of her that they want her dead. Also like you said they probably would of enjoyed being raped in the ass.
I don’t think any woman enjoys rape. By definition. I have no explanation for anyone’s bloodthirst or judgmental nature, but that kind of language really bothers me, no matter who it is used against.
You’re right Jeff….sad and sick but never the less…right!!!!
I agree. The women haters are the real sickos out there. That includes NG, JVM, and their merry band of shrews. Jodi, who has what?…the equivalence of a high school education, is more articulate, thoughtful and poised than the Pros with all their advanced degrees. Imagine that the Low Information babes out there–all the ones rabid for the death penalty–none have Jodi’s intelligence, grace, courage or understanding. They do not realize that NONE of them can ever take her dignity away. Never. What a sad commentary on Christian values, at least among the HLN crowd,
I have been a trial lawyer for 45 years, now retired, and I saw much of the last 2/3 of the trial video. Expressions of support and prayers on this website may be fine, but they will not really help. This website could help Jodi a lot more if it acted as a resource of ideas for her attorneys to use on appeal — as many people observed the trial and some good ideas could come of it. Even if an appeal is lost, she could try again based on incompetence of counsel. I thought they did a pretty good job, but some omissions are incomprehensible to me. For example:
Jodi is 5’6’’ tall, and from some simple research it seems an average person can reach about 2 feet above their height, so she may be able to reach a gun on a 7 foot high shelf without even using a shelf [See: http://nirvanaboy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Free&action=print&thread=879%5D. If Jodi is 5’6”, reaching a gun on a 7’ shelf only requires reaching up 18 inches above her head even without jumping, standing on her toes (which can add 3 inches), or using a shelf as she testified she did. Further, I saw someone demonstrate how you could very briefly use the shelf to reach up and grab something, without ever actually resting your weight on it. And of course she would have used the shelf at the edge near the wall where the supports are, since she said the gun was in the corner near the wall – and in not the middle of the shelf where Martinez demonstrated the shelf would flex with sustained weight. Why wasn’t a demonstration done to show that or some measurements of Jodi’s reach introduced to dispel the idea she was lying about getting the gun from the shelf? That goes directly to the premeditation issue and the topic was raised by the prosecutor in closing but ignored by the Defense.
Why wasn’t the argument made that if she shot Travis lying on the ground, after he was “dead”, she could have aimed and shot him in the middle of the brain and not made a hurried glancing shot from up to down off to the side of his head and sinuses. The glancing shot seems to confirm Jodi’s testimony.
Why didn’t anyone introduce evidence on whether the fibers found on the stairs were from a rope (the Defense contention) or tassels from a pillow as the prosecutor contended in closing? Rope and pillow tassel fibers are not even similar. That could easily be proven by a simple chemical or microscopic analysis, and I doubt that the prosecutor would have failed to have that analysis done – which makes me believe it was done and he hid the results.
Why wasn’t a witness called from Priceline to verify that when you buy an airline ticket it is priced and paid in advance on a credit card, but for a rental car they only give you a reservation and you pay when you return the car because the total is not determinable in advance, with the car company paying Priceline for the referral. That has been my experience just as Jodi testified, it was argued about in closing but the defense could have proved that Jodi was telling the truth and that Martinez lied.
When the medical examiner testified that the shot would immediately incapacitate Travis, but said he was only basing that on autopsies he performed and no research, why was there no motion to strike as he only saw them after they were dead and anything else he knew was pure hearsay.
There are other observations I made that could be of value if anyone wants to pursue this idea of mustering ideas for appeal/retrial etc; but it will have to be separated from the routine posts for it to be searchable and of any value.
You make some great points. I have some ideas as well but they are packed and lost in pages of comments here.
Suggestion to SJ – add a page STRICTLY for ideas on faults, omissions and downright lies by the prosecution to help in appeals. Admins will have to purge any other posts to that page.
This suggestion was made yesterday and the admin said the idea would be brought to SJ’s attention. The suggestion was to have a page of ‘evidence’ that didn’t make it in as evidence as well as the discrepancies from the Flores Report to the burglary at Jodi’s grandparents house (omitted was the fact that many other items besides a gun were taken and there was a string of robberies in the area at the time).
As for the “why was there no motion to strike as he only saw them after they were dead and anything else he knew was pure hearsay,” I believe the DT made numerous attempts to disqualify the ME but were denied and overruled each time. William, as a retired attorney – did you see bias and unfairness in this case? In my eyes (no law classes or degrees) I saw too many hypotheticals from the prosecution being allowed in to totally confuse the jury. Case in point; the jury foreman stated that Jodi had too many inconsistencies while on the stand. A sharper person could see SHE had no inconsistencies – but there was a lot of confusion, twisting and nonsense spewed by the prosecutor to confuse the jury. IMO, this is why they believed Jodi had inconsistencies when in reality it was they (the jury) who were confused. I would love to hear your p.o.v.
I agree totally. The trial was conducted horribly, anyone watching it must fear for ever being accused of anything in that district. The badgering of witnesses by Martinez, and asking the same question over and over, would never have been permitted by any Judge I ever saw. But it is unfortunate that the appeals court will never see that, as they rule based only on a written transcript, with no idea of the tone of voice , demeanor etc. Actually, it is probably only the judges lawclerks that will ever read the transcript and give the judges their impressions, and with a trial this long even the clerks are unlikely to read all of it, based on their rationalization that they cannot spend all of their time on just one case.
Thanks for replying, William. It is disheartening to hear that the appeal judges will likely not read the transcripts – which would account for why so many appeals are denied. But, imo, anyone who reads it can just ‘hear’ the demeanor of the prosecutor’s voice when he asks questions like; What did you do with the gas can? Yes or No? (Not exact wording but there were many questions phrased like that with an objection of ‘the question is nonsensical’ or something to that nature.)
I, for one, do not want to see ANY judicial system allowing a prosecutor (or defense attorneys for that matter) to get away with such tricks. It should be about the facts, evidence and nothing else. ALL evidence should be allowed and ALL hypotheticals should be left out. It is one thing to have a theory, if evidence points another way. But to allow only one side to present a hypothetical while not allowing the other side to present their point of view is just wrong. This trial was not about justice but winning at all costs – and unfortunately it seems many more trial are the same.
Given the nature of this trial, and the fact that social media played an unprecented role in it, and the many issues on appeal that fact may allow for, I wouldn’t be surprised if on appeal appellate counsel makes a specific request that the appellate judge/r panel actually review a videotape of Martinez’s antics. That that judge permitted his ridiculous side show to go on was unconscionable. He would never have gotten away with that stuff in any other jurisdiction in America, I’d wager.
The use of hypotheticals should have been denied by the judge. Period. All Guano did was confuse the jurors as someone else has said. The ME’s report should be reviewed by another forensic pathologist as it is clear he lied and that the report says NOTHING about any visible injury to the brain. Typo, my butt. The entire paragraph would need to be a typo then. I am a physician so I know about this stuff. This report clearly stated “the dura mater AND falx cerebri were intact” and that the cerebral hemispheres were symmetrical with no apparent injury and only somewhat limited by decomp. Somewhat limited usually means “I have to through in there some limitation to cover my ass”. If he could not tell he would have said so or said “severely limited by decomp.” I believe Dr. Baden was interviewed on Fox and he said he was “concerned” about this contradiction between the report and the testimony. Yeah, no kidding. He should provide help but then his wife, Linda Kenny Baden, felt there was enought to convict on M1. How, I have no idea. So he may not be anxious to help.
I would email this directly to sj so it wont be lost and he can sort this all out but great points made here
I like the idea of a separate page or separate site to put those ideas together. I think this site is an incredible resource for information that the lawyers may not have thought of, and don’t have time to read through. Would these things help in the appeal, though? We have to limit ourselves to procedural error — not the poor job in investigation of the murder, right?
That would be amazing. I would be NO help at all. I know nothing about law. But it you guys who know about the law were nice enough to give your time and put your heads together to help Jodi that would be incredible.
Thank you!
Even without being a lawyer, things that seem inconsistent or inexplicable to you may just be the idea that helps. I was thinking what an incredible resource to have so many interested people observing the trial and that it should not go to waste. We have hired practice juries to listen to our case before trial to see what impressed them, and it was not always what we thought it would be. With so many people who thought this was a travesty, this could be what it takes to reverse the outcome.
Thank you Mr. Dunal for your insightful post!! You brought up many good points, and the separate page is a great idea!
Thank you so much again!
I agree, Lynn, and also want to thank William for his feedback. ‘Much appreciated!
Geebee2 also has the page showing the back wounds are not stab wounds but incised wounds due to depth and existence of tails, supporting notion that Jodi was facing him in a struggle, with her left arm wrapped around him. Angle of wounds agrees. He may have had her pinned to the ground, for example, while she chopped at him to get him off of her. At any rate, the wounds are not at all consistent with the story JM told. A forensic pathologist would have been able to bring this out.
I know this may sound wierd Mr Dunal but as far as the
Good day everyone thanks for the warm welcome… as far as the DV Elderly abuse questions go and their advocacy I would have to research that a bit I hate to just spit out an answer without any backup so I will look at that. I would like to reply as well on William Dunal ESQ Post regarding the final struggle that ended in TAS death. It is said that the act was extremely cruel she killed him 3 times…. I actually see that differently. I believe that after the initial injury to the chest which was mortal he just wouldn’t give up the fight and kept attacking her..which led to the neck wound but I actually believe she may have shot him to put him out of his misery… its so strange how they misconstrue that last shot to be out of vengeance when it seems so clear it was to end his pain as well as stop him in his tracks….
Hi William. I really enjoyed your post and I will send SJ an email re: the idea of having a separate page to collect ideas.
Hello everyone,Is there anyway to find about that footprint? Will some things continue to be sealed until after this phase? We just have to know,WHY, was it never brought up, even by defense?I am willing to help anyway I can. I think finding a media outlet to get the facts out is in order.Fight fire with fire.We need to cram their pea brains with FACTS.
Agree Michele! I didn’t know much about Jodi’s case and missed the first part of the trial…the reason why I came over here, is I started to see what HLN was doing and was appalled!!! I think there are some on here that know about the footprint…I’m not sure what that was all about, but I would think it would be important in appeal etc…(or-upcoming re-sentencing phase..which I hope will not come about!!)
Are you new here Lynn?How long have you been watching the trial/Whats your take on the footprint.What appalls you about HLN?Just wondering
Michele, just got back on after visit with stepson..no Michele, I think I’ve been on here for over 2 months now..I started watching the trial right around Gus S’s testimony and got caught up via this page and Youtube and HLN..the foot print I don’t know about..
What appalls me about HLN? I got wrapped up in the frenzy with the CA trial…I actually was on NG’s side..When this case came along, I started watching CTV and HLN and saw the obvious bias and hate coming out…much like the CA trial..I found this site, and realized how HLN was inflaming people and wondered most of the time if they were even watching the same trial as I was. I saw JVM and JJ, VP, and Ryan, and NG become more hateful and obviously VERY biased on their view of this case. I no longer consider them “credible” journalists…I see them as working people up into a frenzy, a hateful one at that, and twisting testimony to suit their viewership..
Wanted to share a banned comment. These jurors will be threatened for sure. So sad IMO and wrong no matter the verdict.
“GUILTY
LOOKINGFORTHEGUILTYJUROR
GUILTY@GUILTY.COM
Submitted on 2013/05/24 at 10:21 am
I am looking for the head juror address so I can have a man to man conversation with this incompetent sob. If you know his address post immediately. Let’s hope for DEATH!
Who are these people? The scary thing is they’re from everywhere just like we are.
Wow!! Alright, this info hopefully KN and JW have….this is jury intimidation!!!!!!!
Yes! I’m saving them for sure.
Thank you JC!
Yes and I hope it doesn’t intimidate the next jury. I hope the jury stays off social media right now. Such bullshit.
Thank you for the banned comment. I hope that you ban any comments that threaten the jurors or wish for bad things to happen to them — of whichever side. Or for that matter, Travis’ family. I think those are inappropriate comments to be posted. We have the truth on our side; we don’t have to resort to threats or mean-spiritedness of those who see things differently.
You have no idea how many comments come through that we ban. I keep record of those who illicit threats to anyone.
That’s really saying something bc the TA sites let everyone threaten everyone.
Thank you for proving that this site is different.
The people here are smart and use those things we have called hearts and brains.
That is scary, it is so scary how the Travis people act, I have had a few try to friend me and my twitter pw changed because I voice an opinion here or there and you feel so violated. I was happy to find my way here, THEY actually told me about you a couple of months ago, telling me I must have come from here and how crazy and stupid I am but I only see scary and crazy and mean over there!
That’s scary and stupid. That person needs a spanking and put into time out.
Here is the IP address of the threat:
68.100.225.4
It’s someone out of Fairfax VA using Cox Communications.
In my personal opinion, everyone should gang up on the stupid pieces of crap and say ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh so that’s what YOU think is IT? Let US show you what WE think about you. Now, you still wanna HOPE for death? I think fire should be fought with fire. These idiots have to realize that people will NOT be bullied by their stupid bullshit!
Hung jury? Unbelievable! It feels like they’re playing with Jodi’s life.
In regards to the Hughes and their funds, Jodi’s team will eventually investigate it down the line (just like Zenaida requesting it from Casey and the Anthony’s). This is definitely not over.
I would love to see all of this brought up again and smack them in the face! I hope you’re right!
Every death threat to the jury and the witnesses should be investigated seriously. It shouldn’t be like the judge acts like oh well I guess she’s not coming bc she got a death threat.
Please explain……Foreman said he believed she was abused – then why M1? You can believe she was abused – but when she tells you she acted in self defense you don’t believe that? Really? Why?
I wish I could explain. It makes no sense to me.
I think he thought she was abused BUT bought the bogus premeditation argument and the nonsense about the gas cans.
Yeah and JM’s theories were preposterous.
I wanna give credit to Jodi’s defense team. Normally, like most ppl here, I’m a KN hater. But the foreman said that the abuse allegations factored in yesterday’s win. So I’m gonna ease up on them for a while. He was prob 1 of the 4 who voted “No DP.” – So kudos to him. – At least he got something right.
KN Hater?
Let’s just put it this way… Kirk Numi does not represent the upper-echelon of defense lawyers.
Ummmm….dave……
Please answer the question in my post below…..
TROLL
I love Nurmi
Excuse me??!!! Where do you get the idea that most people here hate KN?
Ummmm dave….
I don’t think “most people here” hate Kirk Nurmi. In fact I believe quite the opposite. Most of us LOVE Kirk and Jenn.
Can you tell me why you hate him and have posted what you said?
Amen Janeen. I’m thankful that Jodi had the defense team she had.
^5 – I LOVE Kirk and I think Jenn is one of the best attorneys in the world.
I think they did the best they could with what they had…did they handle EVERYTHING perfectly? No. There are some things I wish they had done differently.
But as far as “having Jodi’s back” – I think they went above and beyond. They don’t have to prove anything to anyone.
People who sit criticizing their performance should UP SHUT or – stand up and TRY to do a better job themselves.
I agree Janeen!
They also did a great job of ensuring that Jodi’s appeal will be successful. God I pray she doesn’t waive her right to appeal.
I REALLY HOPE SO!!
Where did the a-hole go???? He has had enough time to answer as far as I’m concerned!!!!!
LOVE YOU MONI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^5!!!
Love you more Janeen oxoxoxoxoxo
They tried so hard to call things out for mistrials and misconduct and from what I learned they do that so that there are good reasons for appeal. They knew they what they were up against. I’m surprised they don’t have ulcers by keeping the anger that was on their faces inside. I think JW wants to meet JM in a dark alley someday. LOL
Mark Geragos, Jose Baez, the white-haired attorney who got Michael Jackson the pedophile off, Gerry Spence (never lost a case) are all better than Kirk Nurmi. – Jennifer Wilmot should’ve been the lead attorney throughout this whole mess.
THATS perfect!!
i kinda stopped rooting for kirk nurmi when he said the 9 out of 10 days speech
I don’t know I guess to me he was making a point and trying to use a little humor. You know….we don’t convict people because we don’t like them. I’m sure the truth is he likes Jodi very much – and whether he does or not – I only care about his ethics in representing her.
Yes….dave…..you are living proof that JUSTICE can be BOUGHT….
Those attorneys are BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.
Jodi is indigent. She has NOTHING. Kirk and Jenn are PUBLIC DEFENDERS. Yes, he opened his own practice but from the onset he was a PUBLIC DEFENDER.
It’s SHAMEFUL that you believe legal representation is only worth how many dollars and cents the attorney collects for their performance.
That’s my opinion and I won’t change it.
U didn’t know that justice can be bought? Did the OJ trial not teach u anything? Should I rehash it here for u? :o) For every case where “the little guy” emerges victorious there are thousands upon thousands of cases where “GOLIATH eats DAVID” for lunch. Ask any litigation lawyer out there, and they’ll tell u the same. ~ And I know that since this is your humble opinion u won’t change it. But its amazing how reality manages to crush our ideals, isn’t it?
I never said it can’t be bought…I said you were living proof that it can be bought.
Yes, the legal profession is all about the “win” column. For that, attorneys that sign up for that power trip should be ashamed of themselves and I know that is asking much too much.
On the occasion where an attorney actually puts the law and what is RIGHT before the dollar signs, yes, dave, I know how very rare this actually is, that attorney should be applauded instead of criticized for not being able to put on the kind of show other attorneys were expecting. When your hands are handcuffed by bias, when your client is indigent and cannot afford the BEST expert witnesses and can’t afford to hire a legal team, you do the best with what you have. Attorneys that sign up to be Public Defenders, for the most part, actually have their client’s best interest as their focus; not the bottom line and how many dollars line their Cadillacs.
You didn’t even know the prosecutor’s name – how much did you actually follow this case?
I hope for your sake a client never speaks about you the way you are speaking and judging Kirk, and you weren’t ever his client. You are just a know-it-all law student who is promising to do a better job than those on the job already. Kudos to you dave.
Good luck. Why don’t you set up your practice in SHITZONA??????
They were all paid lawyers… kn and jw were not.. José Baez charged $500,00 for defending Casey Anthony.
The defense team are working on behalf of the public defenders’ office. They were paid. And as I understand it, one of the reasons Nurmi first said he wanted out was that he wanted more money. And I do not blame him. But do not be naive. I believe they were paid $225.00/hr. That may have only been for trial time, and maybe a lesser rate for prep. But they both did alright money-wise. Correct me if I am wrong, please.
The prosecution never proved “1st Degree intent” here. We all agree, yes? Crime scene indicates a “crime of passion,” yes? – Ok then. – Despite the odds, the gr8 ones always pull out a win from the jaws of defeat. That didn’t happen here.
An elite d-lawyer would’ve taken advantage of this crack in Jose’s case and exploited it for all its worth. – And yes, I believe I could’ve done a better job and plan on doing so once I finish law school.
TROLL
Moni, who is the troll? I think I might of answered one up above? or is it the one I told to “f off” not too long ago??
He’s gone now but it was “dave”!!
Ummmmm dave….
“Jose” had NOTHING to do with Jodi’s case………(if you were referring to the PROSECUTOR his name is Juan)
Finishing law school and passing the bar are two very different things. I hope you get both accomplished.
God Bless.
One other thing…just for shits and giggles….
Do you support Jodi at all? What do you think should have happened?????
I think they did a good job but it should have been better. As pointed out by William J. Dunal there were things missed. I look forward to contributing to what could be better in a retrial, but of course first in appeals.
There is nothing more deluded than a law student. Trust me, pup, law school does not prepare you in any way for the real world practice of law. Grow up before you shoot your mouth off again about the defense team’s job. They did yeomans work.
Mark Geragos is an idiot. When was the last time he won a high profile case….plheeeze!!!!
I have hated Garagos ever since he defended Scott Peterson!:-(
Yep………just another talking head!!!!
TROLL
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DO NOT COME INTO OUR HOUSE AND CALL OUR TEAM NAMES.
SIT ON A CACTUS DAVE AND ROTATE.
I tried to be nice….I really, really did. You went too far.
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.
Exactly Janeen! Just seeing or hearing of Garagos makes me think of Scott Peterson and I hate that bastard with a purple passion!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re my kinda gal, Janeen! 😀
The operative words….dave……are:
“if you had a choice”….
Jodi DID NOT. She has NO MONEY. She had NO CHOICE on her representation.
Wilmot should’ve been lead attorney. That’s all I’m saying. ~ Jodi even said she didn’t agree with a lot of things Kirk did. So I’m not sure why u insist on defending him. Wilmot did a credible job up there.
See my post above….
Wilmot was brought on because of the death penalty OVERREACH of the County. Kirk is not death penalty qualified. The two of them combined, regardless of who was “lead” did an awesome job with what they were up against. Whether Jodi agreed 100% of the time with Kirk is irrelevant; attorneys do NOT have to like their clients, but they do have to uphold the law and give the best defense they can.
Against the outrageous bias and MULTIPLE appellate issues, Kirk did an impressive and noble job. I never said he was perfect and I’m sure there are attorneys that would have worked the case differently.
Should-a, would-a, could-a….irrelevant. Monday morning quarterbacks are NEVER helpful, dave.
Listen……don’t come over here and trying to start chyt with me ass wipe……don’t start none….won’t be none….clear!!!!
You can’t read my mind….. so you don’t know what I would do or say about anything……so don’t play that you do!!!!!
Dave you and Garagos can kiss my curvy golden brown ASS!!!
alright, nm Moni, I guess Dave is the troll! Sorry, just got back on so am not caught up on everything said yet!!
Mr. Nurmi and Ms. Wilmont each have their own style. I think both are excellent, and they served different functions on the case. I think they complimented one .another.
I think its because Nurmi defends sexual deviant defendants. I strongly disagree with Dave on that issue simply because EVERYONE is entitled to a defense. Someone needs to defend these people and please remember that just because someone is arrested or accused does NOT make them guilty until proven so in a court of law.
Agreed. Scott Peterson is an asshole but someone had to defend him and he was entitled to a fair trial. So I don’t hate Gregaros for that.
I think the defense was screwed from day one or from before day one. They got blocked at every turn. By the end JW looked like she wanted to hurt someone and KN called everyone out as nicely as he could. Between sub judge and JM being in bed together they had no room to move.
TROLL ALERT
DAVE IS THE TROLL
kick him out of this room permanently for his comments
dave says:
May 24, 2013 at 10:47 am
dave’s made similarly malicious comments before
“Normally, like most ppl here, I’m a KN hater.”
you’re the only KN HATER that i am aware of here
and again
“So I’m gonna ease up on them for a while.”
more of the same venom
and again
“So kudos to him. – At least he got something right.”
more of the same
DAVE IS A MALICIOUS HATER, UNDERMINING JODI’S LEGAL TEAM AND HENCE JODI
MY RECOMMENDATION, BOOT HIM PERMANENTLY
OR SUSPEND HIM FOR WHATEVER TIME YOU THINK APPRORIATE
dave exhibits raw stupid hate, scapegoating KN, and hence jodi and her legal team, for the evils of the system
I got this Wes!!!
Whew!!! Moni, disregard my prev questions regarding who the troll is, lol!! Wes said it all!!!
If you feel confident letting Kirk represent you in a life and death matter, u’re the biggest fool in this entire message board. Jodi deserved better. ~ I am scapegoating the d-team. It took u this long to figure that out?
TEAM JODI
TROLL ALERT
MORE OF THE SAME DISRUPTIVE VILE HE SHOWED ELSEWHERE ON THIS PAGE
dave says:
May 24, 2013 at 11:19 am
If you feel confident letting Kirk represent you in a life and death matter, u’re the biggest fool in this entire message board. Jodi deserved better. ~ I am scapegoating the d-team. It took u this long to figure that out?
I don’t know why we are bothering Wes…..
HE is NOT worth our time or effort..!!!
I wish we had an “ignore” button….
LOL LOL LOL
Janeen
the only explanation i have is that the problem is a temporary one, that SJ’s away
because otherewise it would clearly undermine the primary, not only, purpose of this moderated site
the other purposes are to care for and help each other
dave’s comments not remedied negate those purposes
his subsequent comment was simply more of the same
“dave says:
May 24, 2013 at 11:19 am
If you feel confident letting Kirk represent you in a life and death matter, u’re the biggest fool in this entire message board. Jodi deserved better. ~ I am scapegoating the d-team. It took u this long to figure that out?’
if such is not dealt correctly and promply it’ll quickly undermine the cohesiveness, quality and vaiue of this site in supporting our statement that JODI ARIAS IS INNOCENT
“Want to Comment?
Welcome to the #1 Jodi Arias Support site. All comments are moderated. If you are a knuckle-dragging hater – or a TravisTown pedo-hugger – then do not waste your invaluable time here. Your post will be deleted and you will be banned. You have been told. We are TEAM JODI… and WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS. Make no mistake. SJ / Team Jodi.”
NO this didnt happen because SJ is away. He was banned poster who used a proxy. It happens when SJ is here.
Wes, you are aware that there’s people out there teaching the trolls how to get around IP banning, aren’t you? Well if you aren’t, you are now.
Please don’t disrespect us. This didn’t happen because SJ is gone. This happened because some asshole decided to come in and comment in full knowledge he was not welcome.
I would be happy to have this defense team represent me. They are outstanding. No they are not rude bullies. They have an understanding of legal ethics.
TROLL
Most of us don’t hate Nurmi. Not sure where you got that idea.
hi everyone. has anyone heard weather Jodi’s mother has been able to see her since the verdict and miss-trial deceleration. The last i heard was that her mother was told that it was just another jury question so she was heading home. no wounder Jody was so emotional during that reading of the verdict god know what she thought
TGIF Team!!!!!!!!!
Greetings to everyone as well as our usual:
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((TEAM JODI HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) for every one of you AWESOME downright FANTASTIC people!!!!
🙂
~{ &hearts HUGS ♥ }~ Janeen!
Hello there buddy!!! I still am so spastic I cannot make those damn hearts!!!!
But you know I love you!!!!! LOL
From what it looks like sometimes I cant either. 🙂
Love you too!
Me too, Janeen, you’re not alone, I’m hopeless!!!! 😀
Janeen!!!!!! 😉
maybe the fbi can look into these death threats
they have plenty of time available
they don’t spend any time looking for criminals on wall street or the investment banks
I hope so! I’m so stuck on those death threats. I go on and on about how illegal that is. If everyone who got a death threat brought it to the police then maybe the FBI could start and inquiry into threats about this case. Listen to me like I know. I just know from watching the show stalked on the ID Channel. You can’t make death threats online.
Danielle the secret service and maybe the fbi get into action when anyone threatens the president
and this is also very important for two reason
firstly jodi and
secondly it undermines the integrity of the justice system
wes…I know some of them…and they are extremely busy right now…some are working on child abduction and murder cases…
Did anyone hear the foreman speak out?
Yes I did and what I don’t understand is why, when he felt Jodi had been abused, did he vote guilty on the death sentence? Knowing there would be a choice between life and death, why didn’t he make the first vote a hung jury? And what was that with the interviewer? Saying he felt she had murdered another man before? Ridiculous!
If you havent you can watch it here :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/arias-jury_n_3330897.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Clegacy%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D318161
I am thinkin DAVE IS A TROLL and …
Lynn? She has been posting here for a while. Why are you singling her out?
Michele – why would you say Lynn is a troll?
I COMPLETELY understand about the other idiot, but Lynn who? The Lynn I know is a constant supporter of Jodi’s and this site. She is NOWHERE near being a troll…..
Janeen, just asked her some questions because her responses were just very vague.Sorry just going by what I saw above.Sorry if I offended anyone.
No offense – I’m glad it’s been cleared up!!!! No worries —- but trust me – LYNN is AWESOME!!!!!
🙂
Administration..Please remove my comment about Lynn .My personal apologies to Lynn.Thanks Janeen
Michele
i’ve made the same mea culpa also
mea culpa = my fault ie my bad 🙂
when others have assisted me
but not so dave
his comments are beyond the pale
Wow Dave is a bitch. I should have known. I’ve known 2 Dave’s and they were both bitches. Sorry other Daves other there feel free to prove me wrong.
^5 Danielle!!!! LOL
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dave…..
You need to wash your mouth out with soap.
DO NOT COME HERE AND CALL ANY MEMBER OF OUR TEAM NAMES.
You need to go back to your hater site and brag about how you were able to get us all worked up and pissed off at your insults. We insist that you GET LOST.
Thanks Wes…So right about dave!
Michele, I responded before I read your apology, but I think you need to be more careful about accusing people of being trolls..please really read comments before you start accusing!!
Janeen, thank you..I am so upset right now at what I had read about me and just caught up with your supporting me along with Fresh Air Breather and Joe..I am almost in tears!! I think people should think really hard before they start accusing people of being trolls..I couldn’t respond to her right away because my Step-son and his little boy came over!!! I didn’t realize that not watching the trial from the very beginning qualified you as a troll!!
Thank you again Janeen
Lynn…
It was a misunderstanding….PLEASE do not be upset. You are AWESOME and we love you here!!!!
((((((((((((((((Lynn))))))))))))))))
I hope that helps! 😉
What vague responses are you referring to?? You mean the question that you asked while I was afk and couldn’t respond? The ones about how long I was watching the trial? Why I don’t like HLN and the like? I’d say that’s a non-troll qualifier..
Michele i echo your view of dave as a troll
see above
reposted it
Wes says:
May 24, 2013 at 11:15 am
TROLL ALERT
DAVE IS THE TROLL
kick him out of this room permanently for his comments
dave says:
May 24, 2013 at 10:47 am
dave’s made similarly malicious comments before
“Normally, like most ppl here, I’m a KN hater.”
you’re the only KN HATER that i am aware of here
and again
“So I’m gonna ease up on them for a while.”
more of the same venom
and again
“So kudos to him. – At least he got something right.”
more of the same
DAVE IS A MALICIOUS HATER, UNDERMINING JODI’S LEGAL TEAM AND HENCE JODI
MY RECOMMENDATION, BOOT HIM PERMANENTLY
OR SUSPEND HIM FOR WHATEVER TIME YOU THINK APPRORIATE
dave exhibits raw stupid hate, scapegoating KN, and hence jodi and her legal team, for the evils of the system
Michele,
Lynn is no troll. Not the Lynn I talk to here anyway. Where in the world did you come up with that nonsense?
Sorry ^ Please see above posts.
ok, Michele..lets go..bring it on…show me what you think you have!! I’m waiting!
Thank you Joe..I am shaking right now..I don’t know who this “Michele” is…I don’t know how long she has been around. I have no idea what she is talking about..I want her to bring it..is she trying to stir up stuff???
wtf???? Michele, I am thinking you are the troll..what are you trying to do????
I have read a lot of posts here that wish for some high powered appeals attorney in Arizona to help Jodi with filing appeals. I have read references to Ulisis Ferragut in Arizona and visited his website. He seems to be the perfect lawyer to represent Jodi on appeal.
Someone on this board posted an “alert” yesterday that Mr. Ferragut was “speaking on azfamily.com” but failed to show a link and I could not find anything on azfamily.com site to any comments he has made about this trial. However, he is obviously interested in the case because he was at the trial….sitting behind defense team…..a few days ago.
I just called his office in Arizona and asked whether Mr. Ferragut is interested in getting involved in this case. Of course his secretary could not reveal such info to me…..but did say others have called about it too…..and she said she would give him my message and phone number and MAYBE he would call me, but I doubt it, He can also be reached from his website http://ferragutlaw.com by using the form to fill out for inquiries that gets to him by email. I think we should all write emails to him to encourage him to get involved with this case.
Did anyone hear him speak on tv news in Az about this case?
Oh, to me that sounds like he is all over it!!
He was sitting right behind the defense team when Jodi allocuted. I kinda thought he was already *in*.
That may or may not e true. He could have just been there to evaluate what he could do for her or to evaluate IF he wants to take on the case. I think we should ALL write to him. SJ…..want to write something up and get anyone here to add their names and email addy’s to an email sent to him?
He sounds awesome! He makes me want to do a happy dance! I read that every Prosecutor hates him! That’s got to be good for TEAM JODI!
Do you have another email for him? I just wrote a whole letter with parts of Dunals ideas and I pressed submit and it said errror 403, not allowed or something like that? thx
If you go on his site there’s a place there to write and contact him directly on the site but I will look around it some more.
Oh there’s a phone number on the site you could call and ask for the email address.
His secretary told me she cannot give out his email addy but to just fill the form out on the site and it goes to him by email and he DOES read them.
I just wish I lived in Az right now so i could watch azfamily5 to see if he was interviewed. I just want to know if he is considering it and if he has expressed his view on the trial. Someone named “michele” posted here yesterday or day before that she heard him speak on “azfamily” (tv station, I guess) or azfamily.com
Do you mean the form on his website? his office does not give out his email addy. I suppose we could send a letter via snail mail…..if the form on the website does not work.
Ohh that is marvellous news!!!! Great you called his office!
hi every1!
im still very happy about yesterdays news!
but im still not okk with her being convicted on murder 1!
totally unfair!!
does any1 know if they are working on THAT appeal??
do we know if wilmont and nurmi still represent JODI??
if things continue in July as planned, I believe that J & K will still be her attorneys. I have a gut feeling that it will be continued way past July. JW in an article I read earlier seemed positive about staying the course. Those weren’t her exact words, but that’s what I drew from it.
If they aren’t her attorneys..a high profile attorney might pick it up..which would be a good thing too.
THANKS TIM..
it would be awesome to get them together with jose baez!
maybe they could pick his brain and get some ideas pointers ANYTHING
But.. will JM still be the prosecutor even after all his misconduct? I really hope not.
Just so the Haters know…Tanisha does in fact have a very shady past. She has been arrested many many times. I suggest these haters know their facts before speaking.
Oh yea they are so classy. NOT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQLxSNA28KY
Yes, I knew that before, I think, just a bit! 😉
I’m sure Tanisha will be very proud of the video!! 😀
Thanks for the link, Jeff!
I wish when Juan was chirping that Jodi was a liar so her lack of a criminal records meant nothing that the defense could have rolled out the long criminal record of the saintly Alexander family who now want to be murderers.
How about TA many incidents with the law.
That would have been First Class!
I am so glad the jury knew Jodi had in fact been abused by that loser. Now all of the “jodi wasn’t abused” camp can eat their words.
I agree 400% just figuring by the way the act tell just call him names, say he’s wrong and threaten him… the Travis Taliban remind me of a race horse that wear those blinders so they can only see straight with no peripheral vision!!
With the foreman speaking out and saying they believed she was abused, the most they should have given her was M2. They don’t make any sense..
seriously!! i dont get WHY MURDER 1
It sure doesn’t make any sense. I think they based their conviction on sympathy for that fake crying family. They wanted to give them something, so they gave them the murder one verdict. They weren’t suppose to let sympathy play a part in their decision, but they did. Jodi needs a complete new trial period with a new judge. This new judge needs to tell the family if they start rolling their eyes and fake cry, they are out. Most judges would have thrown their asses out day 1.
That was horrible that she allowed Alexander family to carry on like that for the jury. The Foreman said that he was influenced by the upset family sitting so close to them all that time. Can’t believe the loose laws in the AZ court system. Sickening that Pickles got away with letting that family act out in a court of law.
That’s what I think.. have the jury no common sense AT ALL?
Mr. T……(Tony)…………………
I have a brand new pair of boots that I have shined and ready to celebrate………………………..
I’m glad you’ve decided to show your face today! (LOL LOL LOL)
((((((((((((((((((((((love you))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Well I know if I don’t show my face around here you’ll round up the posse and come after me!!!lol
The thing that bothers me at this point is that the sheriff said Jodi was on lock down. My question is why should be on lock down and in cell 23 hrs. of the day. Ok, no more interviews, fine. But why would they torture her now, she was not given the DP.
Because unfortunately she is now a “CONVICTED FELON”…..
which should NOT be the case – but it is what it is FOR NOW…. 🙁
Janeen, she can’t be a convicted felon because she hasn’t been sentenced yet, surely?.
No. She is a convicted felon. She was as soon as they came back with M1. It is sick. In her post conviction interviews – the words “convicted murderess” were under her name.
That’s interesting isn’t it?
“Convicted murderess” as opposed to the gender neutral “convicted murderer.”
As if her being female somehow makes this case more atrocious. That’s the only reason I can think of that they would use that verbiage.
THis will be hard to read..but reality about Sheriff Joe.Warning…I cried all through it.
http://youcouldbewrong.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/sheriff-arpaio-helps-fuel-jodi-arias-media-circus/
He is disgusting. I don’t know what else to say.
I feel sick.
ARIZONA IS A CORRUPTED STATE
I’d stick him in a prison cell FOR LIFE. – without parole and feed him once a day on bread and water.
Why feed the fucker at all?
The juror said that Jodi being on the stand so long hurt her. It wasn’t her fault she was up there so long. If JM could have been a better prosecutor she wouldn’t have. Same with the experts. The judge played her roll in that.
You’re right Tim.
If Martinez wasn’t up there bullying Jodi and Sherry Shithead sustained some of KN and JW’s objections Jodi wouldn’t have been up there for nearly so long.
Martinez would take a topic that should last 5 minutes and turn it into 90 minutes trying to get the answer from Jodi that he wanted while Shithead allowed him to do it instead of saying to move on or sustain the asked and answered objections.
Sherry Shithead was just terrible. The only word she knows for the defense is Overruled.
thats true, i thought the same thing!!
it wassent her fault to on the stand that long!
i really think they ALL have to be feeling really shitty right now!
murder 1 REALLY????????
TO ADMIN:
please post this excellent article by vladimar gagic on your website so all can read.
http://www.azcriminallawsexcrimes.com/violent-crimes/jodi-arias-trial/should-jodi-arias-accept-a-life-sentence-no/
thank you.
susan
Question:
For the next jury selection, should the prosecutor and defense agree on which juror gets selected, or is it simply random? And how in God’s name are they going to find an impartial jury for such a high profile case!? There’s even a movie due to be released about JA!
By the way, did you notice that the Jury foreman sort of believed LV’s diagnosis to a certain extent
One more request for my fellow supporters; Please let us not gloat in such a small victory! It is not over yet
Yes, both sides will have to agree on this jury. It is going to be impossible to find a unbiased jury at this point, so I have no idea how this will play out. I only hope the jury pool isn’t full of haters who will lie and say they have never heard of Jodi just to get on the jury. I honestly think this could go bad really fast. Everyone will want on this jury, so they will lie to get on it.
I think this last jury lied to get on. They envisioned book deals so even if they “already knew” she was guilty, I’m sure they lied. Then, from then on, it was up to Jodi to prove her innocence.
If the foreman thought Travis’s own texts to Jodi constituted verbal abuse, what did he think of JM rereading Travis’s most abhorrent words to Jodi during closing arguments as the gospel truth about Jodi’s character?
The only reason Kirk and Jen asked be to released as Jodi’s attorneys was because Sherry Shithead had them handcuffed while trying to do their job. They couldn’t do what they know needed done becasue they knew it was going to be denied or overruled.
This was the most Prosecution biased Judge I have ever seen or read about.
well for all intensive purpose they asked for release on each count so they can use them in appeal. They knew she wasn’t letting them off so it worked in their favor to keep stacking infractions, getting denied them and release. It was a gamble but worked.
Another reason Jodi was on the stand so long was those stupid juror questions. They can blame themselves for that part. They asked 500 questions and 400+ of them were the same damn and dumb questions. I blame Sherry Shithead for that part too. Why ask redundant questions?
Jodi just needs a new trial period. This one was so unconstitutional. The media was judge jury and tried to be the executioner.
Lilly,
AMEN
Agreed and if any of those jurors lets it slip that someone in that room if not many was privy to media and family members telling them stuff( lets say someone slipped and said it in the heat of battle in the jury room) this thing will be toast and a complete mistrial would have to be declared.
Just wanted to say I’m w you guys!
Good point.
I’m shocked that this jury couldn’t see Juan was twisting the truth and creating a illusion for this jury. He would take something and twist it to make it appear that Jodi was lying when she was actually telling the truth.
That was my impression. As I stated above, when the juror foreman said Jodi had inconsistencies, I will point out that he was wrong. There were no inconsistencies on her part, only twisting of words along with lies and hypotheticals to confuse the jury. So in the end…. they blamed their confusions on Jodi.
That’s exactly what he did throughout the trial. The jury must not be the brightest bulbs not to be able to see that clearly. It was ongoing, chronic really, and to not see it and recognize it for what it was speaks volumes regarding their intelligence. So unfortunate. But this is what JM was counting on and he was right.
Looking for members to join our pro Jodi group.
Recruiting! Yay!
I am pro Jodi. I would like to join the group. It’s sad and wrong Jodi was overcharged and I pray that she’ll stay strong.
sign me up….I am in!!
Is there a way to receive the password for the Vent page? I asked for the pw in the past and sent an email to the gmail account listed here. Is there a certain person I’m supposed to email for the pw? Thanks.
With that said, I’m still angry about Jodi’s mother not being there. It angers me. It makes me want to cry. Travis’ boatload of siblings can get all of the fair warning in the world but Jodi’s own mother is lied to (and I don’t believe for a second that the siblings weren’t told there was a verdict)?! Disgusting.
And again, all I saw was anger from the Alexander family. I never see these tears HLN speaks of. I see contorted, red faces and tissues. Never tears. Not even during their statements. Angry, weird family.
i went out this morning and got my nails done, and i cant help but feel guilty that i am able to do things while jodi who did something wrong but was defending herself is in jail..makes me sad
Oh my gosh Glow, I didn’t want to admit that but I feel the same way. When I’m doing simple things like hanging out w my niece and nephew and taking tons of pics of them and playing w my cats and hanging w friends Jodi goes through my mind and it makes me sad she can’t be doing that.
My Mom has told me she loves me an incredible amount of times during this trial and I asked her is this bc of Jodi. She said yes and she can’t imagine a Mother not being able to hug her daughter and tell her she loves her when she wants to.
I wish my Mom could write to Jodi’s Mom. Is that possible?
it really stinks!
🙁 yea it has to be hard on jodi’s mom, and i know her dad seems tough but im sure hes upset too
Her dad looked so sad the last day he was in court. But he maintained his composure and looked so nice. I feel so badly for the parents and siblings.
Oralia Ortega @oraliaortega 46m
Talked to jury foreman in #JodiArias trial. He talked about how jurors felt about the outcome and much more. Tune in starting at 4 @12News
This was just posted on twitter
So it seems he is giving more interviews.
Good keep talking so you can let all of your failures slip out.
…and another just posted:
Andrew Hasbun @andrewfox10 1h
Just interviewed #arias jury foreman. Fascinating interview. More details to come…. #fox10
I’m loving that the fact that he’s saying there was more than one juror that didn’t want death, which totally blows HLN’s idiots idea that there was just ONE lone holdout…
LMAO!!!!
6 voted for death and 4 voted for life
Sorry R…but it was 8 for death….4 for life……
after hearing that jury foreman speak…it sounded to me like they didn’t really go for JM’s “style” (if you want to call it that – I can’t stand that man -sight or sound of him!) I knew he was going to lose some jurors with the way he was so disrespectful to people. Quite a while back I would post a comment about that on some youtube video’s of the trial and I actually was threatened over and over….so I stopped and then I found you guys here and it’s just been great to be with people that are looking at this whole thing in the right way.
All I thought about were these extreme haters and this lynch mop craziness. It’s really scarey.
Anyway thanks for being here ya’ll. 😀
Glad you found us! 🙂
Thanks I’ll do that. I am now subscribing to some of Jodie’s supporters there and unsubscribed from all the HLN perps. This website renews my belief in Human decency, when I read most of the supportive Jodie posts here. Thank You.
Watched the foreman’s interview. Thank you for admitting he had no doubt that TA verbally and emotionally abused her. What I can’t wrap my mind around is how they could all agree on the premed charge with the lies of Flores who impeached himself and Dr. Horn who impeached himself saying things in court that were not in his report and calling it a typo which is an utter lie and sick joke.
Alyce was not as good a witness as she could (she was shaken and afraid by the last day) have been thanks to the immediate onslaught of threats and harassment to her place of business, residence, peers, amazon you name it.
I hope Darryl Brewer’s interview is allowed in to if this thing does proceed in July which I doubt it will proceed that quickly. This thing has so many things that can turn it over including the prosecutor and judge’s behavior, Patty being threatened, judge’s shitty rulings and display of emotion—the list is endless. New judge new jurisdiction could take months to find “fair and impartial” jurors—its a nightmare for the prosecutor and he deserves it.
They agreed on a stupid decision like that because they were watching the media reports or propaganda and they were afraid of death threats.
It’s that obvious.
FOX NEWS Shep is dragging Jodi in the mud right now….and the two females are adding a lot of negative things too…
I won’t watch Fox anymore…
Jodi has been dragged in the mud on every news network. I won’t stop watching Fox News because they let Geraldo Rivera make his cases for sparing Jodi’s life!
Beth Karas just said that her friend in the Los Angeles DA’s office that decides on which cases would be death penalty/capital punishment cases stated that this case would not have been a death penalty case in California.
duh!
Or any other of the “united states” — only in SHITZONA……….
lmao!!!! Exactly what I was thinking earlier today {{{{Janeen}}}}
There is no way in hell this case would of been DP qualified in WA state either.
((((((((((((((((((((((MEL)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Welcome back my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed the hell out of you!!!!!!!! ^5
No way! Shoot even Gary Ridgeway was able to get life here in WA.
Probably it would in Utah.
No shit, Beth! This never should have been anywhere NEAR a DP case.
Beth K said she had talked with atty in LA and this would not have in no way been a DP case there. Quick they went to commercial.
Wow, this over reaching, zealot of a prosecutor who allowed to get away with this injustice. All he is interested in is putting people on death row and another notch in his kill belt.
Danielle are you here?????
I wanted to know if you would do me a favor and pull your trailer up in the spot next to mine so that we can have coffee???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
😉
LOL I’m here! I’m actually on hold w Maricopa County Sherrifs office bc I found a different page about inmate mail and I want to ask them about it. I’ve been on hold for almost an hour. LOL
Does anyone know about a project that Lifetime is preparing to air ostensibly for June about the Jodi Arias/Travis Alexander story?
Isn’t that somewhat prejudicial to her case?
I believe that Lifetime also filmed/broadcast a similar movie with Rob Lowe portraying Drew Peterson contemporaneous to his Murder Trial?
The movie is called “Dirty Little Secret” – they started it last year and waited for the jury verdict so they could air it….
IT WILL SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lifetime a/k/a HLN…..
just saying…….
LOL
Thanks Janeen!
and yeah, it will suck.
^5!!! LOL LOL
Just read this interesting post from the “lawyers on strike” website re. Jodi’s case:
http://strikelawyer.wordpress.com/2013/05/24/convicted/
Brilliant…..this is great! Thanks for the link.
Interesting article on Vlad’s fb page….sounds like it makes sense, but I’m not a lawyer….thoughts
http://www.azcriminallawsexcrimes.com/violent-crimes/jodi-arias-trial/should-jodi-arias-accept-a-life-sentence-no/
Melvis,
Just read it and I (from a layman’s point of view) agree entirely. Said so yesterday, within two minutes of the non-verdict.
Jodi – don’t take a deal. This can’t get any worse.
Well said. She’d be a fool to accept life and give up her rights to appeal this case.
There was nothing inconsistent about Jodi’s testimony. The only thing unstable was Juan’s sanity and anger management issues and his inability to vocalize anything that was comprehensible. Plus his utter and complete fascination with KY jelly and anal sex. Obsess much Juan? If he doesn’t let go of this DP vendetta of his, he should be disbarred, along his compadre, the zoned out Judge Pickles. These jurors need to keep flapping their gums so we can find out the real reason they went along with this charade.
((((((((((((((((Gwen))))))))))))))))))))))
Ditto! LOL
Right,
I say disbarr the SOB’s.
JM has serious intimacy problems, just have his handwriting analyzed without anyone knowing anything about him.
Have no idea what his personal life is like but its quite obvious he has narcistic tendendies and I also noticed he dyes his hair to cover the gray. Check out some of the tapes court sessions.
SJ TEAM JODI
TROLL ALERT > DAVE
i await your statement, on this page, about what, if any, corrective action you have taken on the widely supported “troll alert” against dave for his comments on this page
Wes
Wes….
I’m starting to get annoyed with you!! It was addressed and it’s been handled.
SJ being on vacation has NOTHING to do with anything. You need to let this go.
IT’S DONE. He’s GONE. Let’s move on.
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HA!!!!!! Get ’em girl!!!
Janeen, don’t get mad at me
i haven’t broken any site rules
i have no knowledge that the matter was attended to
some of you may have known that
not me
a “official”statement could’ve been posted here to that effect, but it was not
the legal precept:
justice must not only be done but be seen to be done
the end
we all have the same goal in mind
in my mind, jodi is innocent of all charges
self defense which was a live issue was not then disproved beyond a reasonable doubt
i believe that’s the correct statement of the law
“a “official”statement could’ve been posted here to that effect, but it was not”
Wes, this isn’t our blog. This is SJ’s blog. We can’t go around editing posts or creating them whenever we want without his permission. We’re here to keep out the trolls and keep the peace.
And when I say posts I mean new pages for people to comment on.
my gratitude to, and respect for, ALL at this site is unbounded
i don’t know if this site is a first of its kind ?
but if it is, it’s a formidible legal first, or precedent tor the supporters of a defendand, who wwa formerly totally at the mercy of a media epitomized in the person of nancy grace
a fabulous vehicle beyond the reach of the official institutions and the establishment media to fairly assess a broadcasted trial from the defendants point of view
we have nailed all the villains repeatedly
the site has pooled a vast range of sources together
the establishment i suspect is somewhat cautious about this site
mormonism has had light shone upon it
the site was highly rated by google’s search engine, tops ?, excepting those who payed for higher placement in the rankings lol
i suspect it somewhat scared or frightened the institutional or establishment villains
i’ll must stop here because there’s so much more positive to say about this site
regards to all
Wes
No worries Wes, it’s all water under the bridge. I’ve always liked you and your input. 🙂
I’ll copy and paste my reply above:
Wes, you are aware that there’s people out there teaching the trolls how to get around IP banning, aren’t you? Well if you aren’t, you are now.
Please don’t disrespect us. This didn’t happen because SJ is gone. This happened because some asshole decided to come in and comment in full knowledge he was not welcome.
MB – TEAM JODI ADMIN
greetings
some of my reply to Janeen immediately above is relevant
i was not aware of the technical difficulties and intracies of ip banning,
thanks
and i saw no ADMIN, or “official” statement dealing with dave
i saw comments by some to ignore him, and comments by others, similar to my own, as being outraged by dave’s comments
it appeared that if no action was taken, the matter would become disruptive
which i said and which i believe is fair comment
also, there’s no way my assessment can be viewed as disrespectful
nothing from the site ADMIN was said
and as i said to janeen “justice must not only be done but be “seen” to be done”
which is a suggestion i would make here
and maybe another channel outside this page to communicate ?
i know of no such other channel, which is why i posted here
also, from something said here many days ago i had the impression, probably incorrect, that only sj could ban
if he’s on vacation i hope he’s having a good time
here our goal is to support jodi, and i haven’t waivered in my assessment as to the grounds or its efficacy
not guilty all charges, self defense
but jodi can on advice of her counsel can agree to a soundly based lesser acceptable resolution
i set out what i considered the law and facts AS I KNOW THEM, which is VASTLY INFERIOR to that known to her and her legal defense team
dave’s comments highlight weaknesses in this site’s processes, which hitherto i was unaware of, and which we don’t want used against us
ip banning, and notice as to how others such as i should deal with the “daves”
finally, we are in full agreement that “dave”, or whoever he was. is an asshole
regards to all
Wes
Jodi will never get the death penalty now. YAY!!!
Juan & The Alexanders – LOSE!!! YAY!!!
The court was so mismanaged yesterday when the “non verdict” was going to be called. The Alexander and Arias families thought they were returning for a question. The Arias family was not notified that it was something more. The Alexanders waited for the question. They they were told there was a verdict and the Arias family was not told that. So the Alexanders were waiting for a verdict. Jodi was upset because she didn’t know what the verdict would be and her family wasn’t in the court room. Then the Judge reads the “non verdict” Can you imagine the emotions of all involved in the last 15 minutes of the day? I stand by my labelling the court as “The Kangaroo Court.” Shame on the Judge and those that were in charge of this.
While I highly respect your post Judy F….and I welcome your input…..
I do have to add that calling the BULLSHIT Saturday Night Live skit that we all witnessed day after day after day a “kangaroo court” is an INSULT to kangaroos!!!! I don’t believe even kangaroos are as dumb as Massengil!
😉 LOL
I am amazed how they could get extra security and additional tissue boxes scattered in the gallery but could not wait for the Arias family. This shows so much bias regarding this k-kourt. The court knew exactly what was going on.
Exactly PK,
These are nothing but rotten to the core biased assholes.
Why couldn’t they wait? What was their hurry?
The Arias are always under threat.
Did someone say the JUDGE nearly cried??
OH Please!
She needs to leave the bench.
The judge knew very well that the Arias family wasn’t there and that her mother has been there every single day throughout the trial. Shame on Stephens. Karma will get her I hope. That was cruel and disrespectful.
such evidence of judicial bias would count towards a successful appeal
another straw
((((((((((((Janeen)))))))))))) I think JW and Nurmi did a great job and everyone has a right to their own opinion but naysayers can blow me. Jodi is still a thorn in JM’s paw and will be until she is an old lady…and I thank her lawyers for that. My great hope is she will be set free while still a young woman! We are on the right side of this argument and it makes me proud!!
((((((((((((Gwen)))))))))))))))
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a PROUD supporter and I’ll have your back any day of week my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We ARE on the right side………!!!!!!! 🙂
I was told by sirlips that the Hughes’ think we are not real. That’s weird because I’ve been told by some people that I’m the most real person they have ever met. I could never cry on cue, and don’t understand how people can be so phony. I do sense that the TA family seems to cry every time the camera is on them. They start crying for no apparent reason. Totally reminds me of what I learned about the Salem witch trials when the girls started acting possessed by the alleged witches while in the court room when they wanted to make a scene of how tortured they were. Wonder if there is some indicator that they know when the cameras are on them. I hate to be like this and accuse someone that I don’t know who lost their brother in such a horrible way, but I’ve seen toddlers put on a more convincing show to get their way.
Well doesn’t that say a lot about how the Travis Taliban thinks?
If you don’t fall into lockstep with their agenda, you are suddenly a nonperson.
That’s what Travis said about a lot of people too.
Then they wonder why some of us think they are ALL psychopaths.
Only psychopaths have zero regard for someone else’s humanity, and are willing to selectively acknowledge it as if it weren’t self evident.
They figure they are stars so they are always on camera, so they just keep on crying. Its just part of the Dog and Pony show.
I am not real. I am a figment of my own imagination. But how can that be if I am not real? Can a non-entity have an imagination? And these are not my fingers typing, this is some magic stuff going on here.
I am definitely not real because I don’t see how you can make chicken salad out of chicken shit, or an M1 verdict out of the state’s case.
I am not real because I’ve never been arrested for a whole host of crap, or suckered people into a Ponzi scheme.
I am not real because I don’t believe in praying for someone’s death.
I am not real because I disagree with the perversion of justice this trial became.
I am not real because I don’t believe that a trial should be conducted under a pall of fear.
I am not real because I don’t believe that people should have the ability to testify in a US courtroom without fear of their lives and livelihood.
I am not real because I don’t believe that an attorney should be threatened with her life because she defends a person charged with a crime – a right given to her by our constitution.
I am not real because I don’t believe that a concerted effort to spread hate and vilify people has a place in public discourse.
So what the heck am I?
What is the Matrix? The answer is out there, Al, and it’s looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.
The Matrix is a system, Al. When you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
🙂
I knew it. I am the one.
Sirlips is Morpheus.
lol!!!!!
Marie
it would be fun to…
point a video camera with no batteries in it towards them
have someone alongside that camera ask the hughes some questions which one would expect their phony baloney tears to flow
have a second real video camera to the side recording the entire process
then put the hughes sham on youtube
t’s good that the PHEWs think we aren’t real—cause that way if I meet them and put my foot up their ass-pipes I can take a sound -byte from the Temptations ——and tell the cocksuckers that it was just their imagination running away with them …….all while they attempt to dislodge my 8-triple E’s from their assholes!!!!!!!!!!
What happened to Tonia from Texas? Miss her.
She has changed her name and is still an active poster.
Hi Judy!
She’s around. If you know her, you’ll recognize her.
What was with the Judge and her voice breaking up like that…. WTF?
Did she have a hormonal imbalance or was the verdict that disappointing?
Get your shit together Sherry, and be a Judge. Bitch Please…
Right before she had to read…….Massengil told her he didn’t want to play with her under the bench anymore because Massengil found out the hormones the benchwarmer was taking in preparation for the transgender surgery were causing a funny taste in his mouth…………
Rolling on the ground LMMFAO…
You’re right, lets respect kangaroos.
^5 LOL LOL LOL
many years ago i was briefly in alice spring and went to see some really cute little rock wallabies among the rocks above a pool at an oasis
no they’re not big rats
this give you an idea of what they look lihe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veu3VMHQdUs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock-wallaby
i suppose they’re small cousins of a big red
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_kangaroo
they stay out of the sun during the day
forget the term for that classification
So the other day on of my friends asked me how can I believe Jodi is innocent. I said it’s easy. How much do you weigh? My guy friend laughed and said, about 180. I asked him to lay on the floor and let me try to drag him down the hallway. Now, I’m 5’7 and I work out 4-5 a week and weigh 156. I struggled to pull him down the hall with very little success. After attempting to pull him down the hall, I said that’s how I can believe she’s innocent.
I’m here! I’m actually on hold w Maricopa County Sherrifs office bc I found a different page about inmate mail and I want to ask them about it. I’ve been on hold for almost an hour. LOL
http://www.mcso.org/Multimedia/PDF/Information_family.pdf
Page 4 – This document was updated in Jan 2013
Well I was wondering since you and I are “trailer park trash” according to the haters……..
If you would pull your trailer up next to mine so we can coffee clotch!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL
Yum coffee! I’m going to just have to be plain old Philly trash bc I can’t drive a trailer LOL.
Trailer park trash? They can hardly add 2 and 2 together. I enjoy reading your posts. I am amazed at some of the brilliant ideas team Jody comes up with. No dumb asses on this site. Team Jody is on a mission to save Jodi and its going to happen. We all have one goal and that is help Jodi. God bless her.
i live in a trailer also
that could be a great pseudonym, Trailer Park Trash, or Trailer P. Trash, or T. P. Trash.
bait their prejudices, and fears
New on this site and trying to figure out how this internet thread & blog system works so I am going to try to answer my own blog (hopefully). …First let me say that I am completely in support of the total innocence of Jodi Arias. …Congratulations to the entire defense team and congradulations to everyone on this website for the support of Jodi in her hung jury yesterday. …Let us all pray for the judge to recuse herself next month and for the prosecutor, Martinez, to be forced to retire completely & go back to Hell, & same for Flores also..
So predictably the haters have found a new target – the jury foreman. This man tries to explain what they did and how hard it was and he speaks out against the haters. So of course, now they hate him too.
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2407451853001
Yes. He was once a part of this “brilliant, ground-breaking” jury; now he’s a dirty old fool who had a hard-on for five months. TA supporters are just as fake and flaky as his siblings.
He seem like a reasonable man.
Oh yeah, they’re going off on the poor guy. But they love drunkard juror #8.
oh my gosh poor juror, now he knows all that we have been seeing, how crazy the Travis defenders are, I LOVE his comment “but why did she do it” Well, she was backed into a corner and feared for her life, she came out swinging with force because the person she was up against was twice as big and as strong, oh so sad that this all happened
the “hate the jury foreman” campaign would be from what i’ve seen just part of what is a high level or centrally orchestrated vilification campaign out of mormon headquarters, emanating from the chief looney president monson and assistant loonies, the quorum of the twelve apostles
their titles crack me up
Beth Karas says she’s in contact with the Alexanders (eye roll) and they texted her and said there will be no plea, they’re going forward with the new jury.
It’s actually up to the prosecutor’s office. I heard today that they take the family’s wishes into consideration, but they’re not the deciding factor. I’m sure that $$$$$ is the main issue; Arizona has already blown a ton of money on this trial.
And of course the Alexanders want to go forward – a plea would mean that they fade out of sight and the gravy train stops.
They’ll just go on with their stupid civil suit.
They should have NO say in this.
Yes, they listen to you, my friend recently had a case, with Jason Crowley, the asst DA in Maricopa and he asked for their statements and opinions, the person in question was running two meth labs in Sun Valley or Sun City, with her three children present and they wanted her to go away for a long long time but he only gave her three months in jail and probation for three years and they wanted her husband to get the 15 year max but he only gave him 5 years with no time off for good behavior then 2.5 with 85% off and they were upset but it saved time and money and anyhow, it is not solely up to the family on what goes on with this, so heres to hoping she gets a good deal!
my friends stepdaughters mother is who the case was against and her disgusting husband, is what I was trying to say, they gave victim impact statements wanting more time for these two imbeciles but Mr Crowley only gave them what I noted above and he did this because he said that this way, they could not go back and appeal and maybe get off, so I bet they will try that no appeal thing with Jodi?
Jennifer….they may have some input…..but bottom line it’s not the Adam’s family’s call to make. I say it will be a whole different story next month.
Well that might be what the criminal family wants to do, but it isn’t their money. The AZ Republic editorial said to show mercy on the county and make this go away now.
Victims or not, I don’t think convicted felons like Tanisha should get a say in how we prosecute people.
What was she convicted of? She appears cold blooded creepy, cannot find out anything on either her or hubby Harold.
Tanisha must already be back on the meth pipe … the victims family has NO say in a new trial.
The DA, Judge and Sheriff work for the taxpayer’s of Maricopa County. And they just wasted 2 million dollars. Jodi was willing to plead to M-1 five years ago to avoid putting her own family through an ugly trial.
The AZ Grand Jury recommended a M-1 indictment. The DA has overcharged and cost the Maricopa County taxpayer’s 2 million dollars.
Like all other crooked politician’s, they will retire before they are removed by the voters. And then go sit on the Corporate Boards of their big donors to continue their corruption.
Willie…………Jodi was willing to plead to M-2.
Moni,
I thought Jodi’s tweet said she was willing to plead to M-1?
Of course only Jodi or her attorney’s could actually tell us. I was referencing the tweet. Still, the DA should of charged as the seated Grand Jury indictment read. The DA tried his case in front of the Grand Jury and they came back with a M-1 indictment recommendation.
Adding the DP gives the DA a huge advantage, because a lot of jurors come in thinking the defendant is already guilty, we just have to decide on the DP. So the defendant is presumed guilty … lots of studies show this to be the reason so many innocents are convicted and put to death.
I am not sure I even live in America anymore 😕
Sorry Willie……I thought you were talking about the plea before this trial ever started.
I don’t see her pleaing to M1 without conditions. “They” don’t want her to appeal because “they” know she would probably win a new and fair trial.
Yea….that was one of the problems….the case was over charge because of the Adams family and Kermit!!!
a new trial needs to be moved to another state
she should get a fair trial in california ?
with maricopa county footing the bill ?
that would be nice lol
a trail de novo
trial de novo
not trail lol
Yea and thats why JM looked so upset, after all of this he just might be giving her a deal after all but maybe his HUGE little man ego may not allow for this but I think its his boss not him who ultimately makes the decision?
So the family are CHOOSING to continue with their blood lust for revenge, instead of getting on with their lives, and the tax payers and idiots who donate to them get to fund it. Hooray.
They have a status conference June 20th. I am hoping the family is there because I doubt very much they are going to want to be in court during the Arizona hot months lol. Yes it gets hot in California as well but Arizona is desert.
Their from the Riverside area…….it’s hot as hell out there in the summer. They know all about hot. That won’t stop those blood suckers!!!!
Will Jodi’s family be allowed to be at the status conference on June 20?…another network said last night that it would Travis’ family and the jurors…they will get to ask the jurors why they couldn’t give her the death penalty…then they will help decide with the state prosecutor if they want to get another jury for the second penalty phase…or they can ask for life…
Hi Jennifer, I’m from FL too…
Wow I figured the Alexanders would not want to go thru this again….geeeezzz well since Kirk and Jennifer are staying on they can do a double great job this next time. JM has such a huge ego (the only thing that is huge ha ha the little dick) he won’t know how to improve HA
Oh my God. I just thought of something terrible after reading that article about the “toughest sheriff in the U.S.” I really really hope that something doesn’t happen to Jodi in jail esp. since she apparently is going to be in solitary where no one will be in much contact with her, and they blame it on suicide or something. If they can get away with what they have this far, what else are they capable of????
Joe mostly just hates Mexicans. Jodi is only part Mexican, and doesn’t really look it. So she is likely ok.
On that note, I’m so tired of hearing haters say “Jodi got away with it because she’s a pretty white girl.” She’s half-Hispanic, idiots!
*Got away with not getting the DP
That’s funny that people think she is only white. I knew right away that she is latina. My half Mexican boyfriend even thought she was white. He is not interested in this trial at all, but he even said, “That girl did what??!! Noooo, impossible, she’s so petite.” I’ve heard people claim that she somehow has super human strength. Oookaay, I guess she also has mind powers too. I know she’s sort of tall, but she is very slender. I’ve wrestled with men before, and was very humbled and aware of the physical power men have….esp. 200lb. men who work out. Even if she caught him off guard, he could’ve hit her or body slammed her once really hard, and she’d be knocked out. I still think there is more to the intruder story, and don’t even think Jodi did it. Anyway, we’ll probably never know what really happened. I don’t know very much about jail, but I wonder what the male to female ratio for guards is. I hope she has some guards on her side who can protect her.
We could start sending the article to all of our local news stations.
Plus if something happens to her this trial is so big it will be a huge deal.
This is one place where her high profile really helps. I’m not saying I have no worries, jails and prisons are dangerous places, but Jodi is probably better off than most.
I think the high profile of this case may keep her safer, I am hoping, as far as that goes?
I wonder when juror #5 will come forward for an interview. She stated she would after the trial was over.
Patiently waiting……where are you #5…..would love to hear from you.
Nah, she can stay silent. She was major pro-pros, I think.
I hear you…..but she could possibly enlighten us. Always curious how things work behind the scene.
She is probably waiting for a $ offer.
New on this site, …ok, … I think I am figuring out how this thread & blog system works. Let me just say that I totally support the innocence of Jodi. ….And thank God for alcohol, because surely alcohol got that dismissed eight-ball sippi-cup juror removed in disgrace. Now he wants to kiss-up to the Dr D on hln. …I hope he visits JVM & brings his gallon of ripple, maybe she will fall off the wagon also, & go dumpster diving again.
If you have a moment please watch this clip of the jury foreman talking to local news in Arizona:
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2407451853001
He spoke with lots of wisdom. I disagree with their verdict, but I agree with his last statement in the video.
Watch it if you can.
I would love to see the unedited version….what was his next thought or conclusion….if he was as unsure as his last statement…….IT IS REASONABLE DOUBT !!!!!
He was very careful about what he said and he appeared to be a little emotional when he said that the jury was standing judgment on another human being.
Oh yeah I caught that last part! But yes they edited it 🙁
The foreman said “But why did she do it?” – JM didn’t prove motive to this jury … but proving motive isn’t required under the law.
I found the Jury Foreman’s comment to GMA more troubling – about the law requiring the jury to start with the presumption of innocence … then when they seen the defendant (Jodi) … they couldn’t believe such a small woman was capable of such horrific violence.
TA was a trained MMA fighter and Jodi won a knife fight with him ? WTF
Now that sounds like REASONABLE DOUBT to me.
he did speak with a lot of wisdom…
The link had 27 tweets when I just tweeted it. Thank you for that.
How long do I have to have my comments moderated?
I am happy that he spoke out against the hate.
Hang in there love. Things will work out.
Remember the entire world does not hate you. Forgive yourself and have some peace dear.
Where can I find the address to send Jodi a card? Thanks
I absolutely love seeing so much SUPPORT! I can’t wait to start sending post cards to her to show my un dying devotion and support for her justice. It warms my heart to see other people with my opinion and recognize the real truth behind this case. I wish there is somewere other than on TV other than HLN to watch the trial unfold come june/july. I can’t stand their reporters and bias towards the Alexander family. However I did enjoy they’re reactions when they came back with a mistrial. Now my question to you guys is if I send a post card, is there a way I’m able to help her out with $ so she can respond because ik its tuff to spend $ on post cards and time consuming so id like to help out.
yours truly,
Colt
Free JODI!
Alright…so I come back from a nice visit with my Step-son and his little boy, and then I am accused of being a troll…I read the apology but am still a bit in shock…I might not come across as the most eloquent poster on here, and I’m not as well versed in some of the details as many of you are, but I am 100% a Jodi supporter and will continue to do so, but would appreciate if the original comment from Michele regarding me being one would be removed if that is possible
Lynn…….don’t trip!!! We know who you are!! ((((((((((HUGS))))))))))
Thank you Moni, but I am now thinking that because she put that out there, that it’ll always be in the back of someones mind…I don’t appreciate it. I want to stay here to support Jodi, and I don’t care about being one of the “most popular” posters. I know everyones paranoid about trolls, but I have done nothing troll like, and I guess that just because I don’t know everything about the trial that in someones mind qualifies me as one???
Lynn. I know you are no troll and so do lots of others. 🙂
Things have been shifty around here lately but I feel like we will all settle back into a groove. I see a lot of people talk about not being a part of the “popular crowd”…….What does that even mean? I post to who ever and sometimes people respond and sometime people don’t. Just be you and don’t worry. 🙂
As ALV would say, I guess I need a “time out” because I’m so pissed!!!
I’m just offended is all…As far as the “popular crowd” comment, there are some posters on here who are just amazing and very funny, articulate and can put their thoughts down in this format so well..and then you have a poster like myself who sometimes can’t put thoughts down the way I’d like to, and even spell checker won’t help! And get accused of being a troll..It’s just that I put a lot of time and energy to this cause and love the people on here, and it’s a great place to help give Jodi support…So Jaz, I am taking a time out and let the groove get settled..Thanks Jaz
♥ 😉
I understand Lynn. To tell you the truth……who the hell is Michelle and how long has she been around…..just saying.
But gurl there are so many posts on this site….the one Michelle posted will soon be forgotten. Like Jaz and I said….we know who you are. And you see how quick folks jumped in Michelle chyt over that comment!!!!! She was the one who ended up looking like a fool.
Don’t let anyone else control your emotion. You’ve put enough thought into the issue already…..gurl let’s keep it moving! oxoxoxoxox
Love ya MONI! Alright, I’m gonna chill and keep coming back!!! And I wasn’t sure who that Michele was either!!! JUSTICE FOR JODI MOVIN FORWARD!!!!
XOXO
Guess what?? We can send Jodi books through Amazon.com just no hard covered. She can only have 3 at a time so if she has more than 3 she gets the choice to change one of her books and donate the other to the library or another inmate!
The postcards still have to be metered.
It said on the PDF from the sheriff’s dept. that postcards can be stamped, but the stamps are removed prior to the inmate receiving the postcard.
I know but the woman I talked to said they don’t like stamps bc some people soak them in drugs and the inmates suck on them. I was like okay too much info but okay LOL. She was actually really nice. I asked if we could send postcards since we can send pictures and she said no they have to get them from there and I asked if we can send pencils and pens and she said no they have to get them from there.
I was so excited when I saw stamps too! I was like goodbye post office! But, she said no, so hello post office.
Oh no hard cover books..I forget if I said that.
I saw that and would err on the side of metered to alleviate any issues and make sure Jodi get our cards. Thanks Danielle for taking the time to talk with them.
Yikes, It would not occur to me that stamps would be an issue like that.
I told my Uncle about the stamp thing and he said that bc people put drugs on them. I just stared at him. My Mommom was like and how do you know that. It was so funny. I’m really not that clever. But we did have a good laugh at my Uncle.
I was hoping we could send her colored pencils and stuff for her bday coming up. Since you can send pictures I was also really hoping we could send her cool postcards that she could write to people on so she wouldn’t have to buy that stuff from the jail.
“I told my Uncle about the stamp thing and he said that bc people put drugs on them.”
LSD
Awesome!!
Janeen is it just you and I who are trailer park trash? LOL. Whatever did we do to earn such a title.
Who is calling you ladies trash?!
Janeen just said haters. I was curious if it was just Janeen and I LOL. I don’t mind people can say a lot behind computers.
It reminds me of the Churchill quote someone put up yesterday! It went (I wrote it down, I know I’m a geek) “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.”
I’m kind of smiling about it.
And yes Danielle – he was referring to you and I……do not feel offended by that scumsucking troll…..
I couldn’t give half a shit what that troll called us. Coming from such a scum sucking leech who had to hide behind a proxy in order to have the BALLS to name call us……he’s lucky I didn’t bitch-slap his ass…….
I am kind of proud. I got called a name for sticking up for Jodi. 🙂 I’ve never been called anything really bad believe it or not. Well, I don’t usually post on blogs and I guess no one has had the balls to say it to my face. (I have a well known anger problem LOL) So this is my first on line name calling. I just knew it was the Dave. I have the worst luck with Dave’s!
the know-it-all law student….no worries Danielle he’s been taken care of by the FANTASTIC duo…..
Hey MB…JC….
Can I FONDLY refer to you as “Batman and Robin”????!??!?!?! (LOL LOL LOL LOL)
You know it’s from my heart!!!!
Sure of course hon 🙂 lol That’s cute!!!
Now…the question is….
will you recognize I’m talking to you when I refer to you as “Batman and Robin”??!?!?!?!?
I have a nickname for everyone!!! LOL LOL LOL
Perhaps we need a list of definitions…you know like: “Massengil = THE PROSECUTOR”….
“benchwarmer = THE TRANSGENDER THING ON THE BENCH”….”Massengil’s butt-buddy = Flowers”……………………..we all KNOW who the porn star and pimp are…….and of course the Munsters….methface….the faucet……
just saying……LOL LOL
lol!!! Well JC was here before me, so she would be batman and I’ll be robin 🙂
I will affectionately refer to SJ as “Alfred”……
LOL LOL LOL
LOL awesome!
I knew it had to be the Dave guy! I have the worst luck w Daves! LOL
Glad he is gone.
I told the asshole IF he graduates from law school AND passes the bar – he should set up his practice in SHITZONA (above post)….
He’ll fit right in……..
LOL
Most of my information came directly from watching the trial. Much of the prosecution testimony was rehearsed and the witnesses changed their stories after JM reminded them what they were supposed to remember, including the doctor that said TA was not shot first. He first said he thinks so, then he changed it to he was sure TA was not shot in the head first. That MD? also never acknowledged any degree of certainty.
On the Police closet shelf demo, any engineer or architect (myself) would know it was a faulty demo sure to tip over the shelf. First the shelf was empty, next a cantilever to hold can only be 1/3 of the distance extruding……….note the officer’s hand pushing down the edge of the shelf over half way with force.
so is there any footage that is not edited of the jury foreman?
I think this is an excellent observation of the jury foreman quote*The foreman told the show he had a difficult time believing Arias would be capable of slashing and stabbing Alexander about 30 times.
“When I walked into the courtroom for the first time and looked at who the defendant was, you know it’s hard to put that in perspective,” Zervakos said. “When you look at the young woman and think of the crime, and then you see the brutality of the crime, it just doesn’t wash – it’s very difficult to divest yourself from the personal, from the emotional part of it.”
He said he didn’t believe Arias’ story of self defense, but that he did believe Alexander “mentally and verbally” abused Arias.
“Is that an excuse? Of course not. Does it factor in the decision that we make? It has to,” he said.*end quote
What number was he, anyone know? Just curious.
I am not sure Kira but I do believe that they came back with the wrong verdict if he felt that way. There was reasonable doubt as far as I am concerned. I wish that we could some how invite him here to read all the evidence that we have gathered and perhaps put his mind at ease that he could not in good conscious sentence her to death. I believe that all those that could not sentence her to death had a nagging suspicion that something was just not right with this picture.
I have a list of jurors and their description. It is rather long and I am not sure I should take up space here. No, I don’t know I would only be guessing his #.
The juror is full of shit. Sorry.
Wow, check out this case from Maricopa County:
http://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/simpson-angela.htm
If this woman got natural life, then NO WAY IN HELL should Jodi get the DP!!!!!!
I just watched a video of that lady. Wow, she is someone I would never want to piss off.
I agree, if a woman who drives nails through some dude’s head can get life, then why should Jodi get the DP?
She also pulled his teeth out. Maybe she did not feel like cooking, or she could be Vegan.
I know! She was all “Yep, I killed the fucker, he deserved it, and I wish I had tortured him longer.” Damn!
I heard there is a woman on trial in AZ for running over her husband with her car. She was upset that he did not go out and vote on election day so she ran him over.lol
kira…
the simpson lady didn’t have a frog and pickle either…or she would have eaten them alive…
WTF? OK, something smells fishy in tuna town! How is THAT woman given life, yet Jodi Arias should get death? Really? Really. Really…..?
I have one question for HLeN, Haters, Lovers, MORMONS, Christians, heathens, agnostics, athiests, guys named fred and anyone else i may have missed….DO ANY OF YOU THINK OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY?
ANYONE?
ANYONE…
BUELLER?
BUELLER?
Sirlips, didn’t you hear? Jodi Arias had kinky sex and enjoyed it! That is the most horrible crime of all.
NoHHHHHH! she did? i cant believe me ears. Sa…sa….sex? kinky….sex? gulp. atleast she did….lie. that wood be willy bad.
Wow……just wow!!
Sorry I have been MIA lately. I have been trying to keep up as much as I can. I still get updates emailed to me.
I just now have some free time and was trying to check out the vent pages but it is password protected. Is there something I have to do to get the password?
Thank you all and I continue to have faith in Jodi and her freedom.
Alisha
Thank you admin. for removing my name associated in M’s post..now if I would only keep my mouth shut and I will as I keep bringing it up! Thank you very much!!
Lynn…..
WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!
Today is Friday….have a glass of brandy, put your feet up and VEG…
We’ll clink glasses!!!! 😉
(((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))) Janeen!!! You are the best, and brighten our days!!! Cheers!!
Have to take Mother-in-Law to Dr soon, so that’s how I’ll have to chill, but thank you again, and I’ll be back to catch up with this afternoon/eve comments!
xoxo!!
Be careful and hurry back!!!!
(((((((((((((((((((Lynn)))))))))))))))))))) right back at you!!!!!!
I am so ready for the weekend…
Now if i could just find a couple young nieve rich nurses to be the bread and id be the meat and cheese…it would all be good. Well, that and someone to stop my girlfriend from beating me and killing them…no wait…killing me and beating them…(oh, and they would have to be blind…obviously)
Had plans to take the kids camping and fishing…but now its rain all weekend and 55-65 degrees. Yuck.
blah…………. Maybe ill go over to the hater sites and plant seed for a while.
geesh, yah bring up one sex sandwich and every goes quiet. Was it something i said? lol.
Planting seeds among all that fertilizer should indeed guarantee a bumper crop….happy planting.
WIN 🙂
I like the way your mind thinks. Touche
sirlips…if we start seeing a bunch of scarecrows cropping up on avatars then we’ll know that your seeds matured…
I haven’t read this entire thread yet, so this has probably been discussed. I am thinking about that catch in the judge’s voice–I assume she was fighting back tears–when she was thanking the jury for their service.
What WAS that? Disappointment that there was no verdict? Or disappointment that they didn’t sentence her to death? Did it betray impartiality, or should we not read into it at all, except as just emotional stress at the end of a long trial?
I believe it was her attempt to talk faster than her brain allowed. Seriously, i think it was simply a brain fart, she was trying to be “IN THE MOMENT” and make some “ah” inspiring statement, but it was like a turd in her throat and came out like a shit.
“it was like a turd in her throat and came out like a shit”—- I have no clue what the fuck i just typed or what that even means. Oh, i wish i still drank, it would be a day to drink.
Sounds good to me!!!!!!
Could you repeat that, I didn’t caught it…..did you said turd in her throat……toad in her throat….or toad turd in ther throat?
I think she was upset bc she will have to do more work now. She had to hold back the tears.
Could be. Thanks.
Other than bobbing her head, following the puppet masters lead “side bar” and overruling the defense 98% of the time, I didn’t see much “work” from her……..oh, “I see no hands”, right, they were all too busy texting HLN to raise their hands.
I am sorry I think my sarcasm got the best of me today.
PK….I can’t find that link that you posted a few days ago about the money exposed schemes…please repost for me…thanks…
Truthseeker,
Thanks for asking. Sorry I didn’t see your reply until now.
http://www.occupyhln.org/jodi-arias/state-vs-jodi-ann-arias-con-artists-exposed/
Please repost…this needs as much exposure as possible. Just think of the number of people who have been duped by these scammers.
See my post above to Barbara’s remark about that stupid ass benchwarmer…..lol lol
I don’t think the State of Az will spend anymore money trying to kill Jodi. I think she will be able to get a deal life with parole.
Agreed, but then, think of how much money people like Donald trump and others (Turner) will pay to keep this circus going.
This is a drop in the bucket for the big money groups that hate her…. How about the mormons? they could shit out a few million to get the trial sent to the 2nd jury.
I wish Juan would do the right thing, but we all know he wont. Life w/parole is the obvious deal to make her, anything more WHY WOULD SHE TAKE IT?
Yet, he wont, because he want to ride the lightning. He wont stop as long as he has media pressure.
No, I don’t think so if Juan as anything to do with it.
The Alexanders would never go for it, and Jodi would probably have to give up her appeal rights. No. No. No.
I sure hope so, Carol. It’s MY tax money these blood thirsty bastards want to spend on their revenge.
This is going back a bit but do you guys remember when on HLN when they were digging up Travis girlfriends each day there was a new one and there was like 2 or 3 they dug up that he was “engaged” to and several that were his “true loves”… It just went to show what a cad he was and the last person I remember internationally know as a cad was Scott Peterson. Just thought that was funny. Such a loyal guy that guy TA yah right….. And supposedly a virgin…. oh geez
He was a piece of work!
Yea he was………………….
But apparently a *saintly* piece of work… 🙂
Sara…listen to gus searcy tell you the truth about Travis’ sexual taste for many mormon girls…and they had sex with him too…those mormon girls aren’t the “goody two shoes” they want us to believe they are…it is all about sex with that circle of friends…jealous girls and sex…
He talks about how a lot of the mormons are afraid of Chris Hughes…(is he part of the mormon mafia secret police?)…the more I hear about these folks…the more I fear for Jodi and her family…
There is a lot of information to be learned from this video…and he just gave this interview on 5-23-2013…
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/routingout/2013/05/23/gus-searcy-on-what-they-didnt-want-you-to-know
Can anybody tell me specifically how to address a postcard to Jodi? And something about no stamps (i.e., pre-stamped)? Anything else I need to know?
Can’t remember, there were size requirements for the postcard. Also, take it to the post office to send it, have them meter it. Blue or black ink only, no other colors.
But can the postcard have a colored picture on it? Or must it be especially dull?
I don’t think it matters, the color on the front.
Thanks, Nk.
No nudity or anything inappropriate is what I understand from ready the requirement for sending post cards.
the postcard should be 4×6 in size…..
Thanks, Janeen.
It can’t be stamped it has to be metered. The meter label is about 3 inches across where the stamp would be and 1 and a half inches down, so you have to make some room. Anything can be on the front. I have the rules I just can’t find them. I’ll have them in a minute.
Thanks to both of you. Just one more question:
Do I just address it:
Jodi Arias
Estrella Jail
2939 W Durango St.
Phoenix, AZ 85009
Or is there anything else I need to say, like, address her as “Jodi Arias, Inmate”?
Yes you need her number.
Guys can I give the number out in the open here?
If you can’t, Danielle, I do have pwd to protected sites.
Oh okay cool, I just asked down the bottom. Bc I don’t want a lurker to get it and go mail crazy w it.
Exactly. I mention below I think it’s best to be emailed. If an administrator’s around who can mail it, that’s fine. If not, I’m in no hurry and can request it from SJ when he returns.
http://www.mcso.org/About/FAQ/pdf/jail_mail_rules.pdf
Thanks, as usual, Danielle…
No problem. I’m nuts about postcards LOL
The simple FACT is anyone in the United States Of America can be charged with ANY crime and there is a chance they can BE FOUND guilty regardless of ANY other factors or circumstances in the case. That’s the real justice system. Your entire life and ‘LIVELY HOOD’, rests in the OPINIONS OF 12 PEOPLE, period. Pisses me off.
Jodi Arias has been RAILROADED from………………….before this trial started. ‘Justice’ my fucking ass.
It bothers me how the police took the word of the roommates and friends right away and did not look into that any further. Key evidence was downplayed and pseudo evidence was hammered over and over. The prosecutor knew his case was not as strong as he thought with the gunshot first so he devised a new theory that he then based his story on. It is too bad that the judge did not stop the M1 charge because it did not happen the way he said during the grand jury indictment.
Does anyone know exactly “who” informed Jodi’s mother and family that it was just another juror question?
According to an interview I saw of Donavan, she found out like we did, watching TV.
I wonder why Jodi’s mother and family just didn’t stay at the courthouse like very one else was doing? Didn’t they have a room set aside for her family to stay in at the courthouse?
As I understand it they were very close to the court house but were told it was question and NOT a verdict so they treated it like they had the other 3 questions. I am convinced that they were treating this very low key as they did want to alert the public throngs. They called in extra security and handed out extra boxes of tissues. Right??? they knew exactly what this was going to be. It just shows the complete lack of disrespect for Jodi and her family. But what is new!!
…didn’t want to alert the public
I HATE this dilemma. I have HLN on right now, as almost always. (ie-every waking minute—–retired and glue to the trial.) I hate the people on the network. They are bloodthirsty assholes. I email and comment on them everyday on the HLN site, but think I am wasting my time. I bet their ratings are thru the roof. I like the idea above about contacting the sponsors, but here I am watching it!!
Damned frustrating. They have a monopoly on this thing.
I am going to email ever sponsor I can. (too much time on my hands with my disability—-ie severe arthritis. not mental!!! so far!!)
I will find eg-the the company who is constantly on there with William Shatner (I think) and his blonde daughter (the ad about booking trips cheaply etc.) and bomb them with negative emails! I will tell them I will spend 8 hrs a day sending negative pub. about them and how lousy they are.
We all need to pick out a sponsor or two, and join in. (IMO) Let’s tell them they are paying tons of $ on a biased horrible show. I doubt it will help, because they can just look at the Neilson numbers. I am contributing to it right now and hate it!
Can I give Jodi’s inmate number for her address out in the open here or should we email it just in case someone’s lurking?
Yes, I think best to mail it. God knows what Jodi would start getting from those lunatics.
Does someone have the password to one of those pages to give it to you? I don’t have passwords.
Sorry I mentioned that, Danielle. I received that pwd a long time ago and I believe there was a freeze put on that. Sorry if I opened a can of worms. Maybe in time SJ will open it up again to those who have been steady contributors. I don’t know what the current policy is.
That’s okay! No worms! 🙂 I never asked for passwords. Maybe one of the administrators can give it to people who want it.
You’re a doll…and a very helpful doll at that!
a new password was made weeks back and only given to some. I don’t mind posting out here in the open.
danielle i would love to get her inmate #..
please 🙂
I think if someone has it and can give it on one of the password protected pages that would be better. I don’t have any passwords.
Since the passwords have changed I bet if you asked one of the administrators they would be happy to email it to you. 🙂
i just saw the interview the foreman on GMA and im soo confused
he saiys he believes TA mentally and verbally abused her!!
but he doesnt believe physical abuse??
they are like all in the same!!
just because TA didnt beat her everytime he saw jodi doesnt mean he didnt get physical
grrr!!
Her lawyers should have had her finger xrayed and the Dr. give testimony. That kind of injury could only have occurred from blunt trauma.
yes thats a good idea!
some1 should have done alot more !!!
like I dont get how he lived with so many people and was there for days and no 1 knew he was dead!!
i believe jodi when she said she shot him, but i have a hard time understanding she stabbed him,
its possible that some1 knew they fought she shot him and left,and maybe some1 else there living with him finished him of!
idk, too many loose ends and thats why i will never understand why murder 1 was heer conviction
glow…have you listened to this yet…it helps to understand the cover up…
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/routingout/2013/05/23/gus-searcy-on-what-they-didnt-want-you-to-know
glow…this is Darryl interview…there is so much that was hidden from the jury…
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/articles/20130520jodi-arias-darryl-brewer-interview.html
TRUTHSEEKER1111
THANK YOU SOO MUCH!!
WOW! I WISH THAT GUS WAS ABLE TO SPEAK THIS WAY ON THE STAND! INSTEAD HE GOTT BULLY!!
AND YEA I ALWAYS HEARD PEOPLE SAYING THAT SHE DRESSED PROVOCATIVELY, AND ALL PICS THAT ARE EVER SHOWN SHE IS COVERED UP AND BARELY SHOWING SKIN!
I SWEAR I TOLD MY MOTHER, IF IT WAS ME THEN THEY WOULD SAY I WALK OUT THE HOUSE NAKED!!
SUCH BS!!
please post these links for others to see…we all need to see what was hidden from us and the jury…I feel they can use both of these witnesses in the appeals…maybe before the next phase in July…
OMG!
FREAKING BULLYING FROM THE STATE!!
AND MORMONS!!
THIS REALLY UPSETS ME!
HOW IS IT THAT THE STATE IS SO CLOSED MINDED!!
one tentative princilple so far established by this case,and which is destined for the dustbin, is that woman are not allowed to kill men self defense in mormon states
especially not using a knife
even worse would be a mormon sister wife killing her “husband” or whatever grand title is given to these criminals using a kichen knife
forks and spoons may be in a different category, and may not provoke such fear from these imperious patriarchs
the potential outcome of this trial stuck fear into the hearts of the mormon male polygs in the region. of MORMONSTANIA
http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue2/2008/06/09/199186-arizona-law-remains-fuzzy-on-polygamy/
• Polygamy law in Arizona is fuzzy. Arizona’s Constitution bans polygamy but lists no punishment.
Arizona’s criminal code makes bigamy a crime, but unlike in Utah and Texas, it does not outlaw plural cohabitation.
Because polygamists here are wedded spiritually, rather than with marriage licenses, they are not technically breaking the law. “Arizona’s Constitution is very clear, but I can’t prosecute based on the Constitution,” Attorney General Terry Goddard says. “I can only prosecute based on the laws passed by the Legislature.”
i wonder if the thought crossedany synapses in his brain pan that beaters usually don’t beat their women in public
he’s older and could’ve used his experience of life to assess jodi’s credibility on this issue
or maybe even accepted what alyce laviolette said about such
ahh no, that’s going too far
believing a defense expert ?
naw !!!
that’s too much of a stretch !
HLN has made Millions off the coverage of this Trial – they should be paying the state of AZ for the cost of the Trial!!!! Where is Justice when you need it????
seriously!! what NEES TO HAPPEN IS THE ARIAS FAMILY NEED TO SUE HLN!!!
MAKE THEM PAY FOR EVERYTHING
SUE SUE SUE !!!!!!
For a woman who a stupid reporter call ” The Most hated woman in America”. I can’t help but notice that Jodi seems to have thousands of loyal supporters. I recommend ” NASTY DIS-GRACE as winning this honor ,Hands Down. Concerning the Judge crying as she was talking to the jury ,after the verdict was read…This definitely poisoned the whole jury pool in a re-trial of the sentencing phase. If she does not recuse herself, we have Even Another big issue in the Appellate court. I still strongly believe that this whole conviction will be overturned by a higher court though.
Am heading out of town for the weekend folks—-but will have all of you in my heart while I’m gone 🙂 And if any of you know how to contact JODI —please tell her to under no circumstances give up by accepting any type of deal—and that there are those —-including myself ——who stand with her in unity in this fight for her FREEDOM!!!! LOVE TO JODI and GO TEAM JODI WE SHALL BE VICTORIOUS!!!!!
Ps Am NOT heading to AZ!!!! 🙂
Ahhh, come on, we’re not all evil here (in spite of how it may appear.) Nice weather. And for those who like the four seasons, we do have four: one Spring, two Summers and Hell.
Detective Flores gaslighted Jodi throughout the interrogation.
I have seen episodes of Star Trek that were more realistic and believable than this trial and the State;s theory. To state that Jodi carried a gun but used a knife to smote the Mighty Travis in a hand to hand battle and that this was all PLANNED is science fiction. And the ever so thought out move to leave the camera in the washer just so the authorities wouldn’t have to look too hard for her. If you buy this as premeditation then cyclops roam the earth and centaurs come out at night and unicorns do exist!!!
Dear Jodi & TEAM Jodi:
Good evening! How are you this evening? Thank you all and especially MB for your insightful and thoughtful comments earlier today! Initially I was going to send Jodi a postcard this week, but once the verdict came up I decided to hold off. I was extremely confident that the jury wasn’t going to give her death, but you never know with juries anymore and I just didn’t want to send Jodi a postcard that would come back “return to sender”. Now that we know she’ll be at same jail for at least another couple of months, I plan on sending her multiple words of encouragement.
Believe it or not, I probably spent the least amount of time looking at HLN since the beginning of March. I’m glad that I avoided it, to be honest with you. Predictably, the HLN talking heads look and sound like somebody just gave them a shot of Novocain. If there was any doubt that they were “in the tank” for Travis Alexander, there is no doubt now. I understand that commentators have a right to their opinion and, since they’re not journalists, they’re allowed to express how they feel one way or the other. However, even if you were someone who believed Jodi Arias was guilty and were disappointed with yesterday’s verdict, I don’t think it’s asking too much to at least show some respect for the defense and those with whom you disagree. Everybody on HLN who supported Jodi Arias or thought the defense did a better job is shouted down and attacked for having their opinion. How is that fair?
Jodi Arias has been through enough in the last 5 years. Anything we can do to give her hope, a reason to live, smile and look forward to the future, is worth it. And, let me just say this, I not only like Jodi Arias 9 days out of 10, I like her 10 days out of 10. That’s what friends do. That’s what families do. They love you unconditionally. It doesn’t mean that they agree with everything you say and do or they condone every behavior that you exhibit. It simply means that they never stop loving you or caring about you because they do their best to see the good that is within you. And, if some people would get up off their ass and do their homework rather than let themselves be spoon-fed by haters, they would see that Jodi Arias is a much better person than she is made out to be by the HLN media and TravisTown people.
MB-I know that you want some fresh ideas for things we can do for Jodi and I really like the scrapbook idea. It wouldn’t cost much and it could be filled with pictures of people with Jodi, personal stories from other domestic abuse survivors whose lives have been touched by Jodi, postcards of encouragement, etc. I believe with all of my hear that if/when Jodi were to see that, she would be very touched by it and it would be the shot in the arm (no pun intended) that she absolutely could use right now. Please get back to me whenever you get a chance. Thank you!
I hope that you all have a funky Friday! God bless you and God bless your family.
BREAKING NEWS: 05/24/2013 6:52 pm EDT ~ Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio Racially Profiled Latinos, Federal Judge Rules
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/arpaio-racial-profiling_n_3333907.html
Willie,
Thanks for ending the day on a very good note. G’nite.
JUROR # 9 chased down and bombarded on the bus home
by the pack of wolves…
http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2013/05/24/2357181/
The shot of him sitting there on the bus not wanting to speak
surrounded by the media is pretty sad.
This was appalling. I couldn’t believe there were more camera operators in that train car than passengers.
In America we have freedom of the press.
How come we can’t have freedom FROM the press??
To SJ and MB / administrators of this site: I believe in the freedom and welfare of Jodi Arias. What can I / We do to officially further the cause of Jodi Arias. I believe that she was wrongly convicted and want to help make it right. I have ideas and want to be a part of seeing that justice is done in the case of Jodi Arias. You have my e-mail address. Please contact me. If there are ideas being floated in the ‘Vent Site’ I’d love to be a part. I feel as if it is my civic duty to see justice for her.
Thanks,
Sincerely, Edward
I’m sure when SJ returns he will know more about this. Please be patient 🙂 He will back in a few days.
🙁 POOR JODI this is what happens to good people!!
im gona be a bitch now!
This whole story is a classic tale of Good vs. Evil, at so many different levels.
RB…
Check vent.
🙂
Thanks much, Janeen. Got it… 🙂
I know this sounds ironic but the one that is good in all this is Jodi…despite the tragedy. And the evil falls to the rest of the pack of death hounds.
watching the video with gus and darryl, is so upsetting!
THE BRAINWASHING BEGAN WITH TRAVIS! HE BRAINWASHED JODI FROM DAY 1
glow…hopefully their testimonies will help with the appeals…
They keep saying that she turned from this blonde bombshell into a mousy brunette. It cracks me up. First of all she’s naturally really really pretty. I’m a natural brunette and I’m totally not as pretty as Jodi. But I started out w lighter highlights and then lighter and then about 2 years ago I said forget this make me blonde! Since I’m pale the blonde changes how my complexion looks and how colors look on me. So when I went back to brown for a couple of months I felt mousy again and I was like no way back to blonde! Plus there’s a difference w and wo bangs.
To hear grown men talk about her hair is a disaster. She’s a girl. Girls fix their hair. My Great Grandmom dying made sure her sister dyed her hair blonde while she was on her deathbed.
When I feel like everything sucks I try to fix my hair and paint my nails. Sounds superficial but it makes me feel a little better about myself. Like my life is falling apart but when someone looks a me I might look like I have something together.
Exactly. That interviewer from the morning TV show is an asshole. Bombshell??? Jodi was hardly acting, dressing and styling like she was a Marilyn Monroe LOL. She had lightened hair. I think that interviewer is obviously gay. He seems to have a distorted view of feminine styles. LOL
I was wondering what everybody thinks of George Zimmerman. I feel like he is innocent just like Jodi.
Innocent of what Caroline?
i feel as if he defended himself
Here’s my take on the Zimmerman thing. I don’t think he planned to kill anyone that day he woke up. Yes, I do believe he was over zealous and he should have stepped aside when the 911 operater told him too. This is truly a tragic case but I sure in hell don’t like people making up BS or trying to created racial tensions where none exist!
The main thing is we have to start out believing he’s innocent until the State of Florida proves otherwise. We’ve seen all too well what presumption of guilt does to our justice system.
I agree Tony, I do believe he should have not gone after Trayvon but I feel he was defending himself and HLN has started a witch trial based on race. I get so angry when they bring up the hoody.
Right Caroline! Now, here in Los Angeles we had the murder of Jamiel Shaw which by all means seemed racially motivated. The killing of that kid PISSED me off something fierce!!!:-(
Significant evidence will be brought up in trial showing he acted in self-defense, but until I see it all I am reserving judgment just like I did with this trial and CA. I can’t wait to see how HLN spins this one also. It will be nasty and Zimmerman will be found guilty on day one.
I am going to wait to make a decision on the Zimmerman case , but my first reaction was that he is guilty. I have a teenage son, and we are brown people First Nations in Canada. I just don’t see a kid walking in his Dad’s girlfriends neighbourhood as a threat. He had prior isuuesthat may have caused him some concern , but it is not right for him to be that hyper vigilant after the dispatch told him not to follow. He could have observed from his secured vehicle.
Tony what happened in the case?
He was convicted and sentenced to death. But the cases are no way similar… so I fail to understand tony’s comparison.
If this site “turns” into a Zimmerman site I plan to explain myself at the beginning regarding this case as a 58 and a half years old Black woman who has given birth to and raised two Black males in southern Orange County California. I know tony and I will battle on the issues. But I’m telling you right now tony…no matter how many times I call you an a-hole……please do not take it personal…….cool?????
The whole fallacy in the Zimmerman case is the law, “Stand your Ground”. As stated before Zimmerman continued to follow the boy and by doing so he became the aggressor. Therefore he forced the Martin boy to stand his ground, The Martin boy didn’t know who was following him and Zimmerman never identify himself. At that point common sense went out the window for both of them, each at that time were defending themselves. So I believe that Zimmerman is a least guilty of manslaughter. But lets wait and see what evidence is brought forward.
I agree, he had no reason to pursue it, at which point he put himself in jeopardy, he would not have otherwise had to act in self defense if he stayed in doors and let the police do their job. And if Trayvon didn’t have a gun but did began the brutal fight it seems like it would be because he was threatened and acting in self defense himself as anyone would that was approached. I do not know the whole story so I would like to hear both sides, I have a tendency to go back and forth as I hear cases and then make my judgement. But this one does bother me, because Zimmerman had no right to pursue him with a loaded gun imo, he stereotyped him from the hoodie and acted on his own authority taking matters into his own hands. If tryvon was breaking into his house then justified, hurting someone else then justified but I do not know that he was doing anything criminal to have warranted Zimmerman’s actions other than being in the wrong place, at the wrong time and dressed in a particular way that caught this crime watchers attention. I have crime watchers in my neighborhood and believe me they are biased, I finally stopped walking with them when this very sweet but very paranoid lady June kept telling me not to walk by myself that a van was gona come and take me away LOL. I know it can happen, but I wont live in fear LOL.
Just wanted to say have a Fun and Safe Memorial Day Weekend!! Be careful on the road!!!
I may “pass” though during the weekend!!!!
Have a great long weekend Moni !! Had ours last weekend…lol…stay safe !! Enjoy!! 🙂
If the venue for Jodi’s trial is moved does that mean Judge Pickles comes with them or does Jodi get a new judge. Please tell me she gets a new judge.
Unfortunately, the Judge goes. The case remains in Maricopa County, and assigned to her courtroom. She’d be like all the other people — lawers, witness, Jodi — she’d just travel with them. Unfortunately.
Doesn’t the judge have other cases to preside over.
All of her case are on schedule. Nothing will reassign a case from a judge unless they remove themselves or some misconduct legal issue. If they next part is in another location that’s that changes. It’s like it was in her courttoom in Mesa.
What will actually happen is that they will just go to some other city or town, try and find 18 more jurors, and then bring them to Mesa and put them up in hotels.
That’s whay ther prosecutor is so pissed off.
He knows all he;s going to do is run up the tax payer’s tab only to get his little ass kicked again.
Hotel rooms, meals, transportion for 18 people that could go on months.
No one wants that.
JM’s boss is not going to be happy trying to explain this fiasco during his next re-election.
I watched the interview with Darryl and while he seems like a real nice guy, I’m disappointed he didn’t stand up for Jodi more. When asked about how she’s changed from when he was with her, he says things like: “She wasn’t evil back then.” Damn it, she isn’t evil now and I hate that he implied that. And when asked about the killing why couldn’t he have just said he believed that Travis attacked her? I think i even heard him say she shouldn’t be returned to society. Maybe he watched the trial on HLN.
Yes, you did hear him say something about her being removed from society. But he was emphatic about Jodi changing after she became involved with PPL and Travis. Of course, DB spoke at length about how responsible, etc., she was before and how he trusted her with his son, but he likely doesn’t know how totally F’d up the “trial” was.
By the way, RB, there was some clarification about various psychological diagnoses on Thursday morning’s page (Thursday + 10 part Interview) near the top of that thread from various psych professionals (and AA) who regularly post here. DB might be a bit confused about the BPD/PTSD finding, since they were conflated in the most egregious manner by the psychologists that JM engaged.
Thanks for the additional info, Trial…
Yeah, Darryl was subtly implying that the PPL/Mormon cult is evil.
If he is called in the new sentencing trial, can JM bring that up, the negative things he said in his interview?
I am new to this site and I have to say that I am impressed!!! I am from Cali and I am glad to know that I am not the only one who believes there is something really shady going on with this trial. I have caught glimpses online and after hours and I just became suspicious over how many times it seemed as though the prosecution got away with so much bullying. The judge was completely biased the whole time; each objection from the defense was overruled time and again. Poor Jodi!!!! Also, I do not know if it has been talked about here, but I am an ex-Mormon (temple endowed) and I think there is something very similar to his death and an old temple ritual. I do not know if anyone checked into this correlation. regardless, go TEAM JODI!
Hi all,
Caroline, I hope new everything for Jodi. I don’t see how a new jury is even possible when Tom, Dick and Harry (everyone) have been glued to this trial like addicts. HLN has done such injustice to her.
yea hln did a horrible job, but lets hope all of their mistakes will help jodi with her appeals
The 4 ppl who voted LIFE, opened a new path for Jodi to explore. Someone posted Tanisha Alexander Sorenson with a criminal record, thank you. So, the Alexanders are not that upright after all!
She’s only one of a few Alexanders with criminal records.
Holy crap. Just watched another youtube video of this ex-mormon physician explaining how LDS is a cult. He described the BITE MODEL for mind control. If anyone has not done any research on this yet, they really need to. I can see so clearly now the purpose of the publicity of this trial. The LDS is running the show. It is so unbelievably obvious, and now my instincts are validated.
B: behavior control, I: information control, T: thought control, E: emotional control. Every single tactic has been implemented to control us (those of us who don’t think for ourselves, that is) during this trial. The LDS used this model on Travis, he used it on Jodi, and now the state of Arizona is using it on the American people and other audiences around the world. This is not just a circus, it is a MASS PROGRAMMING. I’ve been researching Mormonism while keeping an open mind, and my brain is on overload CONNECTING everything from this case and trial. I actually found some of their doctrines very interesting, and sort of similar to a few eastern theologies, but can see how they can twist ideas to serve themselves. And service to self and only self I think is where evil originates. The young man in the video said that the number 1 thing that Mormon’s are taught is that those that accuse the LDS of being a cult are conspiracy theorists. Those that speak out against another member or against the church itself are instantly labeled a liar. Hello??? That’s the whole basis of the prosecution’s argument that Jodi is the liar. I really do feel for not only Jodi, but for Travis as well. It’s the ORGANIZATION that killed him. Why did his grandma introduce him to this cult???
Marie . . that’s an eye opener isn’t it?
Yes, are we being prepped to be more welcoming of the mormon “religion”…………for say, another presidential candidate or something along those lines? It has been said that they are trying to become more ‘mainstream.’ Hmmm, I wonder.
Interesting read.
🙁
well i hope every1 has a nice holiday weekend 🙂
Marie, can you please post the link to that video? I’d like to watch it first thing tomorrow. Good night, everyone.
lene u must listen to the interview with gus!!
its amazing and if he was able to speak this way to the jury jodi would be free now..
lene this is another video that helps understand the cover-up…
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/routingout/2013/05/23/gus-searcy-on-what-they-didnt-want-you-to-know
It’s titled, ‘Josh breaks down mormonism-cult mind control/phobia indoctrination by Contend4theFaith1. There is another one that I found interesting titled, ‘mormonism explained-why they are not christians’ by youtubechurch. Also watch ‘The Godmakers 1 and 2’ if you have a chance. I’m sorry, I don’t know how to post links, can you believe that?
OMG they have Travis ex girl friend spewing shit on doctor spew.
Which one?
I think Jodi is still under the mind control of the Mormon religion. Once freed from it, I believe she will tell the truth. She didn’t kill TA.
seriously!!
I’m with you glow.
I don’t think she remembers enough to be able to prove it was the intruders. I think that is a problem. She knows she didn’t do it, but she can’t remember what happened.
She already said she didn’t do it for 2 years. People convinced her to change to self defense. It wasn’t about mind control at all, her not wanting to speak out. She probably can’t remember.
LOL, Nk, that is what mind control is all about.
No, I mean, she isn’t saying her story is false because of mind control, if anything, it could have something to do with Ashley’s “suicide”
She did not change her story due to the Mormon church telling her to or because of her Mormon faith.
I wonder if they can bring back the pixel forensic guy for the next stage since really the judge should have at least went to the lab to view the evidence first hand before ruling.
Oh yes, she is still being controlled……..by fear induced by them. I believe she has to protect her family though, and there are real consequences for speaking out as we can see with Ashley Reed. I was reading about black magic. OMG! She’s a witch!! No, I’m just trying to learn their secrets is all. There is supposedly a demon, I won’t mention the name because I guess that gives it power or something, but it wears an apron when it appears to it’s summoner. I wonder what they say the reason is for the apron uniform in the mormon church, but I’m sure no one there dares to question it. The obsession with immortality is because the “magician” sells their soul for the power the entity gives them, but they must prolong their life for as long as possible because what awaits them after their mortal body passes, is eternal servitude for that demon in the afterlife. The black magician does not want that so wishes to prolong their mortal life. If Jodi dabbled in a type of so called witchcraft, it would’ve been wicca. Wicca maintains a belief that what you do to someone will come back to you, but much worse. They work with and respect nature. It seems more like Native American beliefs with totems, lessons learned from animal life, respect for the earth, etc. Personally, my thoughts are that evil might exist, but I will not put my faith in it. If you believe in dark spells and rituals, maybe it is possible to attract a darker negative energy. Well, I choose to focus on a positive loving energy so that I attract that. Understanding the reasons people might perform dark practices gives it less mystique and therefore less power.
I am truly flabbergasted how HLN, especially Nancy Grace is trashing this jury. A couple if weeks ago they were fantastic. They stood up up for TA. They were his voice. It’s funny how easily their halos have been tainted because they didn’t give them what they wanted. I also love how the foreman said he believed Jodi was abused and they are saying it is a lie. This network is worse than Fox News and I never thought I would see that!
I really hope her attorneys point out the judge being so emotional when they didn’t have a verdict. She is clearly not biased at all. You can tell she hates Jodi and she wanted her to die. She should be dismissed from this case.
Yes Patti she should and the chemistry b/t her and jm was obvious that there’s more going on than court room business. Her tears were because her boyfriend lost, she’s way too emotional about him.
They’re probably screwing each other.
UGGHH MY EYES….lol
Really though, SS and JM got somethin going on there..if its not sex its money. and politics perhaps mormonism too.
lol yuk, they emulate mormon baptisms only in judge gown
One good thing about her is that all the huge mistakes she made will help in Jodi’s appeals. I agree about her relationship with JM. She hardly ever overruled his objections, she rarely found in favor of the defense.
I’ll 2nd thru 10th this `motion’.
Thank you Edward for putting that horrific image in my head. Lol. I guess that gives new meaning to the term bumping uglies.
MUST SEE! THIS IS A LINK SOME1 SEND ME EALIER TODAY
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/routingout/2013/05/23/gus-searcy-on-what-they-didnt-want-you-to-know
Can anyone tell me why juror 8 got dismissed?
was dismissed for being charged with drunk driving.
…and identifying himself as a juror on the Jodi Arias trial to the arresting officer did not help matters. Jurors are not allowed to announce what case they are sitting on. Oops…loose tongues, etc..,etc.
Thanks Rebecca.
ok my sons wants me to watch a movie with him..
poor kid, he says im in love with this trial!
its not that i just want wats right!
NOT MUDER 1!
OMG ITS ONLY SON* NOT SONS
MURDER**
Have fun 🙂
I finally lost it today and e mailed HLN about the ridiculous new thing that they refer to as “geriatric Jodi.”Showing pictures of what she may look like in 20 years. I told them they need to concentrate on what Miss Piggy Nancy Grace, looks like now as well as Bat Lady Vampire Jane looks like. Also suggested giving some thought to what Tanisha may look like in 20 years.
They enjoy finding things to pick on her about. They have to make her look as horrible as possible. They are not journalists. They are a bunch of magpies sitting on a wire squawking at each other. They only discuss things with those who have their same points of view. Anyone who disagrees with them is cut off or bullied until they come around.
Others may have posted this before, but it’s worth repeating.
http://youcouldbewrong.wordpress.com/fixing-the-system/study-finds-that-68-of-guilty-verdicts-in-capital-cases-have-mistakes/
This really excellent blog on justice is very critical of the legal mistakes in the Jodi Arias trial. It has a great article on appeals in capital cases, saying that 68% of guilty capital cases are reversed on appeal. 10% of those result in acquittal with a new trial.
I have to vent. I’m overwhelmed.
This is KILLING me. Where is the Alexander family’s MERCY? They are so enraged this is “not over?” Well, it IS over, and it can be over if you weren’t out for this woman’s blood. I understand their loss, but this is not justice. This is vengeance with a mighty hand, mass manipulation. They CAN end this and put their energy back to their lives and families, people who are still alive and need them. They DON’T need to put their lives on hold and do it all again. They don’t. THEY can stop this. Why isn’t a first degree premeditated murder conviction enough for them?! Why? They say Travis would want her dead. I don’t agree with that, IF in fact, he was the devout Mormon who wanted to be kinder and more caring and more gracious (according to his blog). He would tell is family to lean on each other and MOVE ON. She is in prison, for crying out loud. But THEY say NO DEAL.
I don’t think putting on a defense is “dragging him through the mud.” The prosecutor was so sexist to me. Ugh. I could go on. I’m not saying what happened was okay. Of course I’m not. It’s a tragedy all the way around. But Jodi had a fairly normal life with normal struggles and difficult relationships, some rewarding. HLN folks say that Jodi had no friends no one to say she was a good person. The hell she didn’t. Early on their own broadcast, they had several people on who said she was NOT the person being painted in the media. But he was “so compassionate.” He tried “so hard NOT to hurt her.” Travis “didn’t want to believe there was so much evil in someone. He wanted to help her.” Talk about projecting one’s feelings on to a dead man. So who was Travis? Compassionate and merciful? Or vengeance seeking? They can’t decide which, apparently. “He ignored bad things and focused on the good things, and she also gave him a lot of attention, which he enjoyed.” Okay, so he got off on the fact that such a beautiful, smart woman wanted him and maybe HE just wasn’t in HER league. How come he had so much trouble finding a marriage partner? All the “good women” in his life turned him down. By the way, Deanna Reid is supposed to be his “first love,” but what about the woman Travis bought the engagement ring for and kept it? The one Jodi supposedly stole? (NO PROOF OF THAT AT ALL. RUMOR) SHE was supposed to be the “first love.” How many f*ing first loves did this man have? Why is he begging for women during his “motivational speeches?”
I think society is blind to abuse. Sexist, misogynist bullshit. WOMEN are manipulators of men. WOMEN can’t let go. WOMEN are stalkers. Well, the stats say the reverse actually. They say Jodi WAS a criminal before because she “slashed tires and broke into email accounts.” Well how the fuck hard is it to understand that the reason those police reports don’t have “Jodi Arias” slashed my tires is because you can’t file a report and name someone when there is absolutely not one stitch of proof. There is zero connection to any of it. The horrific things he said to Jodi were dismissed by a licensed psychologist (*rolling eyes*) as “inappropriate communication” but Jodi’s behavior was immature and stalking behavior–evidence of Borderline. WHAT?! Also, let’s not forget that it’s not “one person destroyed so many lives.” A relationship takes TWO. I think Travis’s own actions, sadly, did his own fair share of destroying lives. That makes me an asshole who blames the victim, right? So be it. Jodi wasn’t operating in a freaking vacuum. She was involved in a very abusive relationship, was very vulnerable and suffered from low self-esteem. SHE was manipulated. She “used sex to manipulate Travis.” Really? So Travis is devoid of responsibility, and Jodi is the cunning evil seductress who tempted the innocent man. Jeez, do we live in the dark ages or what? This is the sexist ideology I’m talking about. It’s like shit woman hating theologians wrote about in the early days of the Church’s formation as a way to remind everyone that women are evil and men are just innocent victims of their wiles. Maybe if Travis hadn’t abused and repeatedly degraded and dehumanized her and if he was soooooo done with her or “afraid of her” (that’s actually funny) then why was he continually having long talks, showering her with compliments, and having sex with her right up till the very end?! Oh but we’re not supposed to talk about HIS part because he’s an innocent victim who suffered at her hands.
Jodi is also evidently and obviously mentally ill since childhood because she was a) a difficult teen; b) dropped out of school; c) fought with her parents and pushed them away; d) participated in growing pot with her friends. Well fuck, that about covers 85% of the adolescent population in the US since the beginning of time. I think most of us had tumultuous lives as teens, fought with our parents and wanted them to butt out of our lives and smoked and maybe even tried to grow some weed! A lot of kids who drop out of school are extremely intelligent, some even above average, and they are bored to hell with school. They go on to get their GED and become great successes. I mean, HLN would clearly love to pathologize EVERYONE for normal life shit. But Dr. Drew and Nancy Grace (just to name two) are friggin’ perfect and always make good choices and are smarter than everyone else. Pfffff. Jodi is smarter than both of them combined.
I don’t condone the act. None of us do. But Jodi did not get a fair trial. Hypocrites. Really. This is one example regarding how perfect the Alexander sibs are. Seems Tanisha was much more a troubled CRIMINAL: http://www.occupyhln.org/jodi-arias/travis-sister-trying-to-discredit-alyce-laviolette/
Nothing has enraged me more following trials than the public career lynching of Alyce LaViolette. I hope it passes because her book is a life-changer and is a very important educational tool. She is a wonderful woman and has done so much for victims of domestic violence. I studied and taught on similar subjects at the college level for over a decade and used her materials, and I admire her greatly.
Why is pointing out Travis’ lies and mistreatment of Jodi automatically “bashing the victim?” We cannot have grown-up discussions about abuse and try to understand how Jodi came to this? If we can’t, then we are a colossal failure as a nation. But it doesn’t surprise me.
My wish is that whatever the outcome of this insanity (I really wish someone would put their foot down and take death off the table so another jury trial can be avoided), I truly hope that an appeals court will see that this was not a fair trial. I’m sorry, but any trial where witnesses feel they can’t testify for fear of their lives cannot be considered legitimate. The fact that HLN “experts” freely admitted that jurors lie and are probably watching After Dark. I feel like I’ve warped in to an alternate universe where nothing makes sense. I hope HLN is taken to task for their role in creating this mess and f*ing with someone’s constitutional rights, interfered with due process, and openly tried to manipulate the proceedings with their programming, and tainted the jury pool. It should be thrown out. There is NO WAY they can get an impartial jury. I’m listening right now to one of the jurors who said that he “tried” to avoid people when they approached him about the trial, tried to change the channel and walk out of the room when it came on t.v. BUT…he said it was EVERYWHERE and it was very hard to avoid. So he sounds like he at least tried to make an effort, but I don’t believe that they all did. That ridiculous After Dark show should not be allowed unless they say at least fifteen times throughout the show that juries do not work like this, that even though we call them a jury, they don’t resemble one in the least, and that their mini-trial is not remotely like trial proceedings. There are plenty of stupid asses that believe what they are doing is how it actually is. Then their “jurors” come right out and said, I could NOT avoid looking online or at t.v. They said they couldn’t follow the admonishments! Almost all of them said so! I think that is extremely telling of how fucked up the jury system is and that people flat out LIE.
Sorry, but I just needed to vent. I’m finding out more and more bullshit, especially from this Occupy HLN site. Everyone should read this stuff and we should take action against them. We could stop watching and we should, but having been an activist for so long, I can tell you that isn’t effective. It doesn’t work just to “stop watching, stop reading.” In fact, we should be watching and reading and keeping ourselves abreast of what’s happening, what and how they are covering–everything. That’s the only way to defeat the enemy; you’ve got to know them inside and out. You can’t fight them if you don’t have the ammunition, and that means we have to watch and read and be informed. Then once we make progress we make the final move to cripple their efforts. We stop watching them. Regardless, these brainwashed assholes they’ve got en masse ARE going to keep watching, and they’ll do it with the next (Trayvon Martin) and the next and the next. I think the best people can do is compile all their offenses and petition, write the courts and legislatures. We need to with regards to Jodi’s case specifically, and then I think we should do it on a grander scale, which is going to involve forcing them to re-evaluate issues surrounding media/social media, hate and death mongering disguised as “free speech,” forcing media outlets to be responsible, and setting firm boundaries to protect rights and due process.
Okay, I’ll shut up now. Thanks for listening.
The Alexander family has been fueled to act out by HLN.
Its a perfect storm, Mormon conspiracy to atone Tdogg, Jodi convienient patsy, HLN to brainwash gullable sheep, prosecutor with Political motives and Judge ruling Kangaroo court!
never fear Jodi..we are here for you and you will have Justice!
ur right, esp. the “dark ages” comment. that is exactly what this trial became. i guess mankind has not evolved much since then… a big step back.
Speak!
Very well said, you speak for a lot of us 🙂 & totally understand the need to vent my poor daughter got an earful this morning LOL She made a good comment too after I made her watch that interview with Jodi, if Jodi is cool collected she is a cold if she is the least bit dramatic she is manipulative the poor girl just cant win. Sad sad pathetic world when the dead somehow automatically become saints and can do no wrong. *shakes head*
Eden,
This may help sort out all the inconsistency and confusion regarding the relationship between the TA family, Hughes, HLN and how they “feed” each other and their agenda’s. Please feel free to re-post….more people should understand what is driving this madness.
http://www.occupyhln.org/jodi-arias/state-vs-jodi-ann-arias-con-artists-exposed/
These horrible broadcasts that intentionally distort facts are being deliberately crafted for entertainment, but there is another sinister reason for their existence, and that is to break our hearts. I agree with you Eden, that we have to stay on top of this. It’s not good, not good at all for people to feel resigned and to feel that justice is completely out of their hands when they see a kangaroo court like this. But even worse is the fact that I’ve talked to a few people who have not followed this case in detail but just accept what is going on and assume it is a legitimate prosecution.
The Admins on this site are doing a great job and providing a much needed service. I thank them for their time and dedication.
I’m so incensed over the human bacteria that permeate this trial, the feelings are just as vehement as they were about this jury. And I’m not giving one iota of credit to this jury. If they hadn’t hung on premeditated death, that would have been an abhorrent sacrilege. But you same four should have had the stones to know this was not remotely deserving of a fucking murder 1 verdict either. Did you listen to Nurmi’s closing at ALL? How many times did he tell you enumerating point after point it didn’t make sense? Are you going to tell me the things HE said didn’t make sense to you? It makes me wonder if you know how to put your shoes on the right feet in the morning.
Do you think it’s normal for a person on a laser focused mission to kill somebody to go to a fucking karaoke bar on the way? A footprint in blood that doesn’t belong to the defendant is what, irrelevant to you? Did you just blow off the stipulation that Martinez was forced to accept that Jodi was not holding a gun or a knife in the eyball photo? Yet seconds later she stabs him? What did she do say “abracadabra” and it magically appeared or she twitched her nose and fucking divined it to appear in her hand? It doesn’t matter what you “think” may be an answer, if you don’t KNOW, then you error on the Goddamn side of the defendant.
Wait until you learn all the stuff (if you have the balls to read it) that shows what you were fed was a literal KGB railroad job that you didn’t have the guts to hold to account. Your lack of being able to put the pieces together was pathetic. Things just don’t add up to how you came to that decision of guilty on M1. It only took ONE of you to plant your feet and derail this blood hunt.
And there was at least one going into that room because you don’t ask the coroner a question after he has been caught doctoring his autopsy, “aren’t the gunshot wounds you’ve seen only when the people were already dead?” You were questioning his ability to know how a person would react when they were ALIVE, and shot. You were as much as saying he was a liar and you knew it. You were no prosecution leaning juror. What did you do, sell your soul and your integrity for a book deal? If you don’t break the bean jar and spill all the beans, it’s your last chance to clear you conscience.
I hope all of you are haunted by the memory that you aided and abetted a rotten mother fucking prosecutor who is corrupt to his core and wanted nothing more but another hide on his wall. And you were waving the hammer and sickle flag for him
I’m not against the death penalty. I would have popcorn and Heinekens at Simpson’s execution and I would prefer the electric chair. THIS was premeditated murder! Jodi Arias had felt Alexanders hands around her neck once and she wasn’t about to let him get on top of her so it could happen again. You didn’t find it strange that Martinez changed the order of wounds from gunshot being first to last? That didn’t cause a head slap to say ‘wait a minute,’ something’s weird here? Coroner is changing his medical report FIVE YEARS LATER? No, you disgust me.
Grace (ugh, what a fucking oxymoron name) Jodi’s like Charles Manson huh? You’re the most repugnant cunt since we evolved from walking on all fours. You’re one homely sapien. I haven’t watched thirty seconds of HLN because if I did, I would have to spray the back of my TV with Raid. You’re not even in my channel lineup. Even if I agreed with you, I wouldn’t watch. I’ve seen vomit, I don’t need to dwell on it to know what it looks like. You media lepers should have your license yanked. Politan, anybody that want your opinion should be de–hypnotized first.
Mitchell, you three named shrieking yak, you should be fitted for a muzzle.
Hughes (both of you) you’re a motley hybrid of Judas motherfuckers milking the last supper for all its worth.
All you Alexanders, what a counterfeit bunch of money grubbing opportunists you are. You cop bitch, you’re probably the one that gave Travis the gun. The only time I wanted to look at your faces was when the hung verdict was read. That was two million dollars worth of delight.
Every one of you, from you media sluts to you pretend aggrieved family members that have nothing but dollar signs written all over you, make my skin crawl.
Vincent is the most preeminent attorney in the United States today in my opinion. He’s the one who prosecuted Manson and I believe has lost only one trial in his life. Vincent, you’re a stalwart for justice. Please take a look at this case. In a matter of a few hours time with your skill, you will be able to see the blatant legal hijacking this evidence just reeks of—everything from the suppressing and manufacturing of evidence to a judge who did everything for the prosecutor but blow him.
It is a man like you that has to write an appellate brief that will make any court stand up and take notice. I plead with you that you review the travisty of twelve indolent malcontents who ignored the exculpatory mountain of evidence to reach a just verdict that was infinitely supported to be well below first degree. I’m sure there are no shortage of demands for your unprecedented talent but Arizona is a state that is deleriously obsessed with death and will suborn perjury and trump up evidence which has already been PROVEN in the same county of this shanghai with the same intent to murder. You have spoken up in equally egregious shameful verdicts rendered in other trials. Few have been more egregious than the verdict in this one. If a fee is dictated, there is no shortage of contributions that will flow from this site if you will consider becoming involved.
One of the things most important in any appeal is focusing on what will really rock the foundation of any railroad job and glaringly stand out with the appellate reviewers. Of course the appellate attorneys are paramount consideration.
But something occurs to me to be a laser right to the bullseye to overturn this verdict and have it remitted back for a new trial—that is new and materially UNDISPUTABLE evidence. The one thing that will be a rocket train to that new trial is if that Yreka gun can be found. If a benefactor can be found to offer a reward for the turning in of that gun with no questions asked, that gun will have the Maricopa County Attorneys Office quaking in their boots. They know the ballistics won’t match and they will have to allow private defense testing of that bullet. For a judge to deny that motion with the significance that gun represents would be as unlikely as one of those mormon bastards confessing to the murder.
And that gun is out there someplace–someone has it. It may be in a pawn shop, it may be that a gang member has it, or whoever stole it, still has it. Throwing money into the cause of finding that gun in my opinion will be the most, and by far the fastest, way to have an appellate panel demand this verdict be set aside and remanded for retrial. It will be like finding someone else’s DNA in other murder cases which exonerate the defendant.
If that gun is found, Martinez shits his BVD’s and Jodi will be gleefully sketching the prick who will have been shown to the international fucking world to be the fraud that he is.
Let’s make that happen !
Thank you, jade. And thanks for having these posts on the main threads because some of us can’t or can no longer access the Vent threads following the system crashes of two weeks ago.
Perfect Jade!
New evidence that will overturn the verdict is exactly what is needed. A good PI on the ground there would be great!
jade, u mention many GREAT points. a couple i forgot about! esp. the eye reflection photo!!
the way u explained it hits home… reading between the rants and profanity… 🙂
jade
great post
Hi all, anyone know the answer to this. I’m beginning to watch on youtube JA’s 1st interrogation w/ Flores (the one where she’s in street clothes in Yreka). The videos are from David Lohr’s channel. Does this first interrogation end with her alone and singing (part 5). I’ve watched parts 1 through 5, but can’t find a part 6. Part 5 consists of Jodi asking Flores what’s going to happen to her that day, asks to use the restroom, he leaves and she’s left alone in the interrogation room. Just want to know if I’ve watched the entire 1st interrogation. Thanks.
Let me clarify my question. When she’s in the orange jumpsuit, is that the second interrogation or same day, just changed into jail outfit?
The orange jumpsuit is the next day
Part 6 is there, but it took me a while to find it last night… it’s like it is hiding for some reason. But it is there, and it is a part of the first day.
Krikee, here is the link for part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2-4GjBt10
SZ and Journee thanks for the info. I just found on Websleuths a typed transcript of her interrogation that one of the members typed up. So I’m skimming through that as I’m listening to vids.
See my note below about Part 6 and the dragging photo.
Apologize if this is already posted, but another interview given by the foreman of the jury. Of note is his statement that he understands why Jodi would tell lies.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/jodi-arias-jury-foreman-interview-video/
“What she did was horrible, there’s no question about it, but this is a human being. Our jury’s prudence system is based on innocent until proven guilty. And this girl was crucified in the court of public opinion. We didn’t know that of course until after the fact.”
So much for the haters’ theory that the jurors would be just HORRIFIED at how EVIL Jodi is once they’re able to access the media. This guy gets it.
ATTN MODERATOR: WHY WAS MY LAST POST CENSORED?
My post was an anti-death penalty post concerning Karla Faye Tucker, executed in Texas. I oppose the DP, even though I handed down 3 of them in a trial back in 1981 that I have described on this forum in detail. WHY would you censor my post, ADMINS?
Did you post a link Ed? That maybe why..
if you included links, the links sometimes automatically get flagged for review. It would have nothing to do with you. 🙂
WTF???
Links? Yep. Here they are again:
* KARLA FAYE TUCKER
* HER CRIME:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7yNuSqTzxs
* AFTER HER EXECUTION:
Texas Death Penalty Guard (present in the death chamber for more than 120 executions)who quit his job after the execution of Karla Faye Tucker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QayqgV9XvM
* KARLA FAYE TUCKER SPEAKS PRIOR TO EXECUTION
part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff3m5ZRykyU
part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdVCl9vUwIo
part 3a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVU3g7VGme8
part 3b https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcbcTVZkwSU
part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g09mtptQT_8
Do any one see that crazy bitch on the JVM show saying that the 4 jurors that supported life were sexually fantasizing about Jodi. WTF
Tim,
They can’t get over the sex, can they?
Does this person think it was 4 males that wanted
to give her life?
They get crazier and crazier.
Jodi’s magic vagina just sucks in every man in its path….*rolls eyes*
You know, Magic Vagina would be a great name for an indie rock group. LOL 😉 J/K
I personally think that a lot of these HLN female anchors are jealous of Jodi. Seriously, Jane Velez-Mitchell and Nancy Grace are more green than Ed Begley, Jr. and Daryl Hannah driving cross-country in a Hybrid.
Jane Velez-Mitchell looks more like a Muppet than some of the actual Muppets. And Nancy Grace looks like the last time she had anything intelligent to say was the last time she used a treadmill.
I have another little tidbit that might be worth looking at for “new evidence”.
Or it might not.
I just above gave Krikee a link to part 6 of David Lohr’s of Jodi’s interrogation tapes. I went looking for it last night, trying to find the part where Flores first shows Jodi the pictures off of the camera. I’d had a niggle of a memory and wanted to go check it out.
Sure enough, it was there on clip 6, starting right around 10:15.
When Flores shows Jodi the so called “dragging” photo, he tells her that it is ‘just a small portion’ of that picture.
What reason would they have to crop that photo? What did they crop OUT of that photo?
WOW JOURNEE!! That could explain why the picture seems to be so low to the floor, and seems like such an impossible shot!! Add this to the list of things that need further investigation!!
I’m still stuck on the memory card issue with the camera. I truly think the pics, the camera, and the memory card are some how the key to crackin this bullshit case.
Ah, but does the whole photo actually still exist anywhere?
There’s a lady who has been posting over at HuffPo who says the photo originally shown in court had a bit more to it than the only one that can be found now. She says, and I even seem to remember, that on cross Jen was offering a somewhat different interpretation of the photo – that what has been called a pants leg might actually be shirt or top, that the shape has the suggestion of a torso, near the top a hint of curve that might be a woman’s breast. The lady at HP insists that Jodi’s legs are trapped under Travis. Now, I’ve looked and looked at that photo, and I can’t see the shape below the ‘pants’ as anything but a flexed foot – but a more complete picture might tell a different story.
Yes, I do believe the photos might have a completely different story to tell. Do you suppose the original data might still be on that card?
You know Journee and K,
That picture has always bothered me.
Journee you are right, they cut the person’s head off in the picture.
Also, IS that when Jodi wanted to see the picture.
I know I havn’t watched all of it, but I remember her wanting to see
picture. Could that be why?
And juan in his sick mind made it into something else??
She had sort of been pestering him to see the pictures – pestering might be a strong word. She was confused by some of the things he’d said about them – that her hair was in pigtails seemed to really surprise her. That they were obviously having sex in Travis’ bed – she insisted she hadn’t had sex with Travis since April.
And he’d told her that there were a couple of accidental pictures, taken while Travis was being killed.
So she was asking to see them and he finally relented. But then refused to show them to her again on the second day.
Aly, I don’t know where I saw it, someone on the internet believed the photo was oriented in the wrong direction, if you 180’d it you’d see a completely different picture, not a foot at all or pants. I can’t find it again. But, yes this photo is particularly bothersome.
Journee, Kmiller, there’s definitely something about the memory cards and even Jodi was trying to figure it out on the first day. She’s trying to figure out if somehow her memory card got into Travis’s camera. I’d like to discuss this further and hear more of what people think about it. But I know as the thread gets longer and another day arrives w/ new posts we may not revisit a past day. Can we continue on some of these questions, by reposting on new day not the complete post, but the germ of our theories, investigations?
a lil off ur topic but still re: the photos … the photos during that time would seem to point AWAY from preMed, imo.
the jury bought that jodi was documenting “her planned crime”? THEN, would not take the camera?
it is ONE of those doesn’t make sense moments. haters chalked this up to jodi being depraved.
hard for me to buy into depraved. seems to back jodi up that after their romp and slumber they were gonna take some photos of TA ‘muscles’, etc.
Per your request, Krikee, I’ve started a new discussion near the top of the Saturday thread.
🙂
yep. . I wonder what he meant by ‘this is just a small portion of it”. Jodi needs to be asked again about that picture.
ok
hln is so full of “CRAP” as jm said
Tim, I saw that too….
I’m confused. Can someone please answer my question. Isn’t there a way that her attorneys can file an appeal on the whole case whether she is sentenced to death or not? It is clear to me that the judge’s voice cracked after the jury gave their verdict yesterday. Was she actually upset because Jodi didn’t get the death penalty? From what I have observed so far, this judge has not been fair to Jodi. She let Juan Martinez do whatever he pleased in the courtroom and did not sequester the jury. Someone? anyone?
Christina,
I heard they were going to have the same judge and prosecuter
in the same courthouse and county.
Yes, the judge showed nothing but biased throught the whole trial.
Juan lookedall down in the dumps, they said he showed no emotion, He SHOWED
“sickness” like the Alexanders, but the Alexanders showed complete anger at the jury.
Sounds ALL messed up to me.
How was JM allowed to introduce evidence that was based on hearsay like the stalking? No police report at all about stalking, the ring? The tree? All hearsay no one testified to it , the witnesses were hostile to defence and lied by omission and the main players Horn and Flores lied more than once within the trial!
The prosecutor dropped the camera for shock value possibly damaging the evidence! He was so obscenely unprofessional, it was so disrespectful to the court and the defence and Jodi. He may not like them, but he has to behave like a civil person, he is supposed to be an officer of the court. The state of Arizona should be ashamed, Juan Martinez was the one who cost the taxpayers that much money, courts are about trying a case based on evidence, not wild eyed theories based on conjecture and speculation.
Jodi deserved a fair trial, it is her right. She has been let down by the system. I hope the defence gets their appeal and that this injustice can be remedied. The alexanders are out for revenge, not justice. If they were they would acknowledge Travis’ words in the emails , IM’s text and on the tape. He was the one who revealed who he really was!
agree.
and the tape really solidified my feelings re: TA. powerful when u hear it in his voice. he sure put himself up on a pedestal. i’m not sure how the jury heard those words and his arrogance, and didn’t think that was mitigating.
seems mitigation goes over many juries heads not just this one. makes me think they had preconceived notions. or heard media against jodi.
mitigation may have caught on with them by the penalty phase tho. at least a few of them.
Speaking of the TA family….yes, they want revenge but they are also counting on a very big bank account also. The link explains the SCAM and what is really driving them.
http://www.occupyhln.org/jodi-arias/state-vs-jodi-ann-arias-con-artists-exposed/
Please feel free to re-post, more people need to hear this. Thanks.
Thanks for posting the link again PK…I seemed to have lost the other copy of the link that I pasted to my email a few days ago…
I copied and pasted again…thanks…
Christina,
Jodi’s attorney’s have to wait until the sentencing phase is over before they can file any appeals. The appeals process is totally different and different attorneys who specialize in this area. If Jodi gets the DP in the sentencing phase the state pays for the appeal. If she gets life, she has to pay for the appeal process and attorneys.
I am not so sure this isn’t double jeopardy.
Jury deliberated and their”VERDICT” was
unanimous.!
Everything else sounds rediculous.
Keep on until we get what we want?????
hey ALY,
new to the site…what does this mean?
Your comment is awaiting moderation
Well, under the circumstances, I guess I’m not wanted on “Team Jodi”. My posts have been censored and I am a grown man (70yo) who, I hope, has contributed to the discussions here. It seems that now I am not trusted by the Admins.
So, goodbye everyone, I’m done with the ‘Team’.
Ed B
don’t go to time-out
If we were censoring your posts, you would see a “…”
When your post has two or more links, it’s held in pending.
Ask Wes for lessons of patience as many of his posts have been held. One time two of his posts were held in pending three days because they accidentally got put in the spam folder.
Shit happens sometimes. Please don’t take it personally!
Hey MB, am I cleared to post?
MB or CJ, I know SJ is on vaca, can you clear me for comments?
MB
I am cleared?
I think that his grandmother may have introduced him to the cult out of desperation The Mormons work in clans known as wards… So with all those children orphaned as TA siblings were Im sure she had not the energy or resources to care for all of them. By introducing them into the church it assures that those kids will be taken care of in lieu of theirs thoughts and souls. Mormons will take anyone so that they populate all the earth. Although many do so with kind hearts…. people like TA use it to take advantage of pure souls such as Jodi. I know i live here. If you look at the history.of which I know only a little…. this doctrine and its followers were a bunch or people chased out of and ostrasized for thier practices ie polygamy etc. They were literally chased out of town and fled via handcart in search of a place to settle and settled in the great Salt Lake Basin…led by Brigham Young. .
That makes sense about his grandma. I do think there are many kind mormon people. As with everything, there are those who will seek to take advantage of their power. I would have to say that many of the leaders are the ones more likely to perpetrate the immoral and unethical behavior that gives the good ones a bad rap. They falsely justify their actions with the LDS doctrines. Same with all cults.
“onetime” – we are not approving new posters until after there’s been a cooling off period so that the blog isn’t overrun by sneaky haters.
When I am given permission to release the new comments, I will restore and approve them.
Thanks for your patience.
I understand MB, thanks for posting a reply…
Hey MB, I am not a “sneaky hater”. I do respect the Admins of this website. I would no way impede Team Jodi…As a sysadmin I know you have my IP. I will check back later for the ok.
Hey MB, Can you send me an email when you have permission to add new bloggers..
Thank You
WOW!! There are THAT many “new” people who want to join the site??!! Although I’m sure that you guys get more than your fair share of both sneaky and not-so-sneaky haters trying to get in, it would be a good boost of confidence to know that at least some folks are seeing “the truth”!!
And I agree with all the posters from Thursday that posted that we need a page/site/video, short & sweet, outlining the discrepancies, evidence not presented/admitted, etc BEFORE this next phase, so that hopefully, people can tear themselves away from the HLN death cult, and actually hear and see some TRUTH, and UN-biased REALITY in this case!!
Hi Lainey, yes there’s a lot of people who want to comment! It is encouraging that people want to see the truth or DO see the truth. I agree with you, we need to make a movie or something to help people understand the lack of evidence and trial-by-media that has gone on.
MB, if you ever want me to reveal my real name to you, please send me an email at Gmail. =) I have been sincere and honest about everything that I’ve posted here except for my name. And the only reason why I haven’t posted it on here is because of security reasons.
The jury foreman (he was #18, by the way) has this to say about Kermit:
“He’s merciless,” Zervakos said of the lead prosceutor on he case. “I don’t like being talked to like I’m stupid and I feel like that happened a few times.”
Ugh, then why did you vote for his bullshit theory?
George Foreman would have made a better foreman for this jury.
I was satisfied for the most part with the jurors explanation. Just thankful that he realized that TA changed the trajectory of her life for the worst. I would also like to say that the jury pool is meant to represent the state of AZ. So statistically speaking about one third of the jury chooses life…which represents that one third of AZ feels the same way. So I feel pretty comfortably although trust me still very concerned. Statistically speaking because there was four in favor of life we can be pretty sure that there will hopefully always be at least one hold out. I hope so… feeling a little melancholy tonite…. Memorial Day here and all. missing Jodi a little seeing her in court. Knowing shes in lock up hurts. Although I do believe that even Joe may have a soft spot for Jodi. I hope so.
MB,
I will check in sometime this week end.
Thanks again
I hate that Holly Prude face on DR. DRew the one that wouldnt let her husband around Jodi. Her husband is the guy that took the video of TA talking about the near life gun held to his head with all his minions listening at his feet.. That girl Holly is such a ugly person inside and out… so judgmental. I think that part of Jodis rage may have arisen due to the fact that all his so called friends insisted that he not be with her. I think he really wanted to be with her but was not man enough to stick up for her to the end. In the end he let his friends decide and they may have helped in digging his grave. I think the reason Hollies husband was taking the video in the first place is so that he could have this pic of Jodi the gorgeous blond in TAS lap … lol….that is why Holly hated her… cuz Holly has a Pug face like Napolean.
lol careful Sara, cash will want to get a fund drive to fix pug face . . he’s attempting to collect funds for everything else like Tanisha wanting gas money for the 6 hr drive to Phoenix
Tanisha needs her face fixed to lol…like a little filler in those hollowed out cheeks…
Am I correct in my assumption that the only evidence that places Jodi at Travis’s on June 4, is the “bloody palm print” and the date/time stamped photos? Was there more evidence presented at trial?
Yes, Jodi’s hair with follicles attached (pulled out as opposed to falling out) found in the bathroom hall.
Jodi Legg, a DNA analyst with the Mesa Crime Lab, testified a latent palm print found on the wall of the hallway connecting the bathroom and bedroom, contained a mixture of DNA from Arias and Alexander There was a print on the wall (it was cut out for evidence) in bathroom hall. I understand this was the side of Jodi’s palm A photo of the hall shows the drywall cutout for evidence. Photo of her pant leg and sock submitted as evidence but in my opinion not definitive.
BEWARE: TA family and Hughes SCAMS continues.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=141356002721821&l=09d74a6d61
Testing to see if I can comment yet in here. New puter new email finally back online.
Welcome back to the land of the living!
guess this “dust up” sorta ruins lil juan’s holiday weekend…
Im usually not so hateful… but I just dont like the fact that they cant meet us halfway… They got the verdict TA wasnt perfect… No relationships are. Rather than admit this they would rather see someone die.
I cry everytime I read this : WTF, do they really think she’s going to try and get up and run out those courtroom doors………like a ” Mexican Chihuahua” chasing after a ” gopher” or a ” german sherpad” ?
Before she put on her demure blouses and black slacks, though, she would be fitted with an electric security shock belt around her waist. And on one of her legs, a brace would be placed that is designed to hinder her mobility. The uniformed guard who you may sometimes see on camera can activate the shock belt if Jodi becomes a threat inside the courtroom. If the shock belt failed, she couldn’t get very far very fast because of the brace buckling up on her leg.
I think we should mobilize to get Jodi a totally new trial. I have been reading about that horrible Arizona prison at Perryville, and I don’t want Jodi to spend one second there. It’s a horribly inhumane place where Marcia Powell was basically murdered by guards. If there is anything I can do, please email me. I want to help.
Suzanne,
We can’t get a ” new trial” until this sentencing phase is over…. I have also been reading about Perryville, what a horrid place…..
Good morning, Jodi and TEAM JODI! I’d like to begin this by wishing everyone a happy and safe Memorial Day weekend. I hope the weather is nice wherever you are and that everyone gets to spend some time with family and friends over the weekend, but please let’s not forget those brave men and women who died fighting for us as well.
I know that MB is looking for suggestions/ideas and I came up with one last night: a book. I think that if she hasn’t started already that Jodi Arias should write a book about her experiences prior to meeting Travis, her time with him, her time in jail and most of the proceeds of the book could go to domestic abuse survivors. I even thought of a title: “The Law Of Distraction”. I’m sure that Jodi could come up with a better title, but it’s 5am here on the East Coast and I’ve been battling insomnia so please forgive me. And, incidentally, just as they say that procrastination isn’t something worth putting off I say that insomnia is nothing worth losing sleep over. 😉
I was watching Jodi’s interviews again from the other night and, maybe it is just me, but I saw a much more confident and stronger Jodi than I saw the last time just a couple of weeks prior after the guilty verdict. Personally, I am very proud of Jodi for not taking any shit from the media. And, kudos to her for not doing an interview with HLN. I know that they say that there’s no such thing as bad press, but I have no use for any of those people at that network. I only caught a few minutes of HLN’s coverage yesterday and they really have become so much in the tank with Travis Alexander and his family it is nauseating. I understand that you want to be fair and give both sides a chance to express themselves, but the thing is they’re not being fair or giving both sides a chance. They’re giving Travis Alexander’s family all of the time in the world to air out their grievances as they sanctimoniously offer their condolences along with the sad, instrumental piano music on top of the photo montage of Travis as the prelude to yet another commercial for Christian Mingle or that annoying-as-hell Honey Nut Cheerios commercial.
I seriously get nauseous every time I see one of Travis’s friends show up on the tube. Because I personally don’t think they’re honestly that sincere about supporting Travis. I think these people are sharks and phonies that want to exploit Travis’s death to promote their own agenda and make some money.
In closing, I wanted to say one thing that I noticed last night on Facebook was a pro-Jodi page that chose to use an autopsy photo of Travis as their cover pic. Whatever we think of Travis or his supporters, I think that is wrong and I hope this page removes it ASAP. This is not the way to fight back against the haters and pedo-huggers. All it does is add fuel to the fire and makes people see us as cruel and insensitive people when we all know that is not the case. Thank you for listening.
Hello everyone!
Stopping by to say hello and wishing everyone a safe and enjoyable Memorial Day weekend!
I don’t have any new questions or comments to contribute today. Maybe this thought has already been discussed, but I saw some posts about double jeopardy up above:
It was my understanding that the sentencing phase was to determine the DP. If the jury could not unianimously decide for DP, then DP was off the table and the judge then sentenced Life, either with or without parole. Based on that, I don’t follow how they need to call in a new jury for sentencing.
But maybe no one else understands that either.
I will continue to stop by regularly and be brainstorming ideas that might be of help somehow.
SJ, I know you’re on vacay, but please add me to the email mailing list to be informed of anyway I can help – like letter writing or something that requires lots of people/manpower vs expertise.
Thanks!
Nancy Grace CNN crew have done their level best to prejudice any future jurors against #JodiArias. Whatever happened to reporting? #Mistrial
Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery is a gigantic asshole. Check this out.
http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2013/02/18/maricopa-county-attorney-bill-montgomery-im-not-targeting-immigrants/
Read the comments at the bottom as well; very interesting.
I’ve only just recently heard about the shoe print that was never analyzed, but it’s really bothering me. How can they be allowed to get away with that? This website brings up a few good points:
http://strikelawyer.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/jodi-arias-shoe-print-evidence/
I’m sure most of you have already seen that site, but it’s a good reminder.
Also, I read that Juan didn’t give the defense team all of his findings prior to trial. Isn’t that grounds for appeal? On a youtube video I watched they were saying that Nurmi and Willmott had to quickly scan through the magazines when Martinez wanted to submit them into evidence.