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Jodi has asked me to post details of the new “Survivor” t-shirts pictured below.

100% of the net profits generated from the sales will support other survivors of domestic violence, and go to Non-profit Domestic Violence organizations selected by Jodi.

The t-shirts will look similar to the following examples:

The Survivor T-shirt - Jodi Arias is Innocent - com

CLICK HERE FOR FURTHER INFORMATION & ORDERING DETAILS

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It's NOT OK!

We thought we’d also post this video & lyrics for y’all…

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“Thought I couldn’t breathe without you, (I’m inhalin’),
You thought I couldn’t see without you, (Perfect vision),
You thought I couldn’t last without ya, (But I’m lastin’),
You thought that I would die without ya, (But I’m livin’),
Thought that I would fail without ya, (But I’m on top),
Thought it would be over by now, (But it won’t stop),
Thought that I would self-destruct, (But I’m still here),
Even in my years to come, (I’m still gon’ be here.)…

I’m a survivor…….”

“Jodi you are my new HERO! I just finished watching the end of the prosecutions ridiculous attempt at a cross and you stayed calm, cool and collected. I am in your corner. You stand for every girl who has ever been used and abused by some creep I can tell you are a very intelligent and sweet person. You cannot measure a person’s worth by their worst act. Yes I know what you did was wrong, but I know it was done for a very good reason. I wish you all the best of luck and know we are all beside you!” – Jesse

Remember peeps…

WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS.

Never question it.

Never doubt it.

Have an awesome Sunday!

SJ
Team Jodi

If you would like to help Jodi directly by way of a financial donation via check or PayPal, click here (or click the Team Jodi link below) for further details.

We Are Team Jodi ---- And We Will Be Victorious!

 

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      • Good evening Jeff…congrats on being 2nd…looks like you missed it by 3 minutes…LOL…

        I’m not sure what SJ is giving out these days for 2nd place but it will be something good…LOL…

        SJ….thanks for the beautiful song and video of Survivor by Destiny’s Child…

        You are so wonderful SJ for keeping us informed each and every day…thanks a million…

    • This makes my second time being 1st 63 and before I was never 1st at anything and now here on this site to support Jodi I’m proud to be 1st and have been here for Jodi for a long time and the people here are so kind and wonderful thanks

        • THANK YOU BeeCee stayed up all day and all nite and kept the comments alive for Jodi commented on her and this site when you read it does not say that but it is referring to it using the 3 of cups below

      • I thought you were a lot younger, Tonya. You have a youthfulness in your thinking.

    • Jodi we love YOU and you have shown you are strong and who stood for yourself and a women with substance.
      We are sure you will win this rap of jealous, biased and crazy prosecutor who has no sense of responsibility.

      We will celebrate your WIN!

      love

      Steven

  2. Congrats Tonya for being # 1 and Jeff for being 2

    Just saw Intolerable Cruelty again
    Such a funny movie

    Best part was courtroom scene

    Made me think of baby doc & JW

    Freddy Bender: Objection, Your Honor: strangling the witness.
    Judge Marva Munson: I’m going to allow it.

    Happy Sunday everyone
    Light and Love to all of you
    🙂

  3. Is it possible to get those Survivor T shirts done in long sleeve and/or 3/4 sleeve. I would love both colors but have had lymph node removal in arms due to cancer. Due to swelling, I can’t wear such a short sleeve. Feel free to email me about this. Thank you.

      • Hi Jennifer and everyone else on Jodi Arias is Innocent. I am so proud to be here.
        I was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer on the left side in my early thirties. I actually found it on a self breast exam. I had been a registered nurse for 10 years a knew exactly what I was feeling. At that time, there wasn’t as much recognition for women under 40 getting the diagnosis. I sat in doctors offices, internests to breast surgeons to oncologists who were all sure it was my head that was sick. They could not even feel the malignancy. I had an Aunt on my dad’s side that had similar symptoms to me, it was never detected and she died within 9 months. So, I stared those doctor’s down. Now looking back, it seems like I was up against a bunch of Juan Martinez’s. I told them, they are being held responsible for my life. So, next step, since the idiots could not feel the malignancies, they had me point them out. The internist drew the picture, the breast surgeon biopsied from what the internist drew, I was sent for a mammogram which I was told to wait for results they were sure were going to be negative. And I had to get blood work for the Oncologist to look at. Every single doctor that was doing this made it clear they were doing it because they thought I was crazy and they just wanted to shut me up. No one said, you graduated from the top nursing school in the country with honors. You work with the most difficult patient populations. You clearly would be questioning this if it needed questioning.
        The first step was the biopsies. I got blood work. The next day I went back for the mammogram. I waited after an hour for someone to come in about that mammogram. Finally the technician handed me results which on the outside said metastatic breast cancer. My stomach dropped. I would have rather have them think I was crazy. I could hardly drive home. I got home and the surgeon called me telling me how serious it is. I needed my breast removed, I needed lymph nodes removed, on and on. Then the oncologist calls starting to talk about chemo. I said hold on I need more opinions. All of you thought I was crazy. I can’t take your word. I need two more opinions from the top doctors in each of your fields. And so it went from there. Just one second occurrence in 2011 but nothing had spread as far in the other breast and that was removed. So all of that is the reason for the need for the longer tee shirt sleeves.

        • I think that in the medical world we have to be our own best advocates. We know our bodies better then anyone. My mom had a heart attack for the first time in her early thirties. She was having symptoms for awhile and was told it was heart burn. She was too young to have a heart attack. Sadley my Mommy died in 2007 at the age of 48 from cancer.
          I am so glad that you made those doctor listen and now you are able to tell other women to fight when they know something is wrong.

          • Jennifer,

            You are so correct. We have to fight for our health. It is both woman and men. I think sometime doctors think a woman is just a hypochondriac. But I am sure it happens to men also. I am so sorry about your mom. She lived many years with serious health issues. It must have been very difficult.
            When I was putting all that down on my computer, responding to you, every doctor I talked about looked like Juan Martinez in my mind. I can’t imagine what Jodi is going through. At least I had evidence to prove I was correct. But Jodi has Juan Martinez making up a fantasy story.

  4. Survivor shirts = awesome!!!

    What comes around goes around
    Good Karma for Jodi and
    all the women who Survived!

  5. love to see the t- shirt in XXL size when you are old and decrepit your body sags and you put on weight Jodi I love the t -shirt survivor thanks SJ for posting that if it gets off the ground would love to see it long make a nice night gown too.

    • I want a xxl size also and more of a sleeve than the short cap sleeve. I don’t expose that extra flesh on my upper arms that can swing or flap with arm movement. Nobody needs or wants to see that.

      • I too must regretfully say that I need a xxl. I feel I earned this weight I brought 6 beautiful children into the world. I need longer sleeves also because when I wave my upper arms become fans. Just flappen along…LOL.

    • Thanks so much Al, I just saw it. You are such a brilliant man!!!!

      My fiance is going to take me to the ER later on today. I talked him out of taking me last night on the condition that I agreed to go today. I think we’ll go back to the one I went to the other night because if I should have to be admitted, I would want to be somewhere he could easily visit, rather than somewhere that would be inconvenient.

      I looked at the FB page you linked and saw a list of symptoms for HE. I don’t have any of those symptoms other than sleep disturbance — which could be related to so many other things. I looked further and don’t have any cognitive impairment which seems to be the No. 1 symptom. Nonetheless, I think my antibodies levels should be checked as they haven’t been checked in a couple of years and if they are ridiculously elevated, that might lead to further evaluation just in case of HE. I just don’t know if an ER will check my antibodies or simply discharge me and recommend follow up with an endocrinologist. Perhaps though, if I get a reasonable doctor there (and both times I’ve been at that ER, the doctors have been very reasonable), I can get them to write a note to my job that I must be given time off to follow up. I asked the doctor that on Friday, and he refused. Jerk!

      Thanks again, Al. You rock!

      • AA,

        Get those antibody levels checked. The thing that facebook page doesn’t talk about is the early onset stages. Things get very whacked out there and you show a lot of weird and peculiar symptoms. The symptoms typically described on these sites have to do with a full blown case of HE. Early symptoms include occasional bouts of aphasia and ataxia, confusion, mild tremors in the hands and legs, small myoclonic episode (such as stumbling, tripping, etc), memory problems and shallow psychiatric symptomology. There is a very good online support group

        http://lists.topica.com/lists/HELPS/

        Just go over there and ask around.

        We lived through this hell for a almost a year, and when we found it the control was miraculous.

        But do go to the ER for the other stuff. It’s really important. Also since you have a very caring fiance, please show him these posts.

        • Thanks Al. I can’t seem to access that group. Do I have to pay to sign up?

          I don’t have any of those symptoms. My only symptoms are tachycardia and, when my heart is racing, feeling lightheaded and dizzy upon exertion. I don’t have any other “weird” or “peculiar” symptoms at all — other than being upset about what happened at work and how I was treated at the doctor’s office, which I think is reasonable. I don’t trust the EKG at the doctor’s office because it wasn’t administered by a trained medical professional and I pointed out to her several times that the leads were not attached.

          I’m so sorry you had to go through such a nightmare. Healthcare really sucks.

          • AA-
            Just now catching up on posts, and am so sorry to hear you aren’t feeling well. Was concerned when I didn’t see you posting. You are correct that health care sucks these days. I have been to hell and back over the past year since I sustained injuries in an auto accident. I have been given about 30 different diagnosis, one surgery and referrals all over the place, just to be no better than I was 12 months ago. Unfortunately, I am not close to any major Medical Centers to see real experts, but I hope that since you are, you will be able to find a good doctor who will really investigate your symptoms. Be well and get lots of rest!!

          • It’s a freebie, though you do have to register, and then it’s all through emails.

            • Thanks so much TR, you are soooo kind. Typing on my iPad in the Er so I’m sorry for typos.

              Al, it wouldn’t let me register without paying.

      • AA

        You mentioned that the doctor had you drink OJ before the blood tests. Tests for thyroid (and many other conditions) are fasting blood tests. The OJ may have altered results. You also mentioned some abnormal BUN results – did they also do a urinalysis? I have kidney disease (FSGS and NS). Kidney problems can affect all other organs and if your thyroid is indeed out of whack you may need to also look at auto immune conditions. This is what I have and the body is actually attacking itself by misreading what the immune system should really attack. I have to take immunosuppressants that are given to transplant patients to keep their bodies from attacking the transplanted organ.

        I have also experienced bullying in the workplace and can only imagine the mental and physical toll that is taking on you. I am praying for you to find answers, health and peace, Please take care and stay strong.

        • Hi sz, yes, I have always been asked to report for testing fasting before, so I really thought the oj was a poor poor idea. They were concerned that I hadn’t eaten, but as I said, they were young girls with no actual medical training. My BUN was slightly low, my creatinine was perfect though, and I have no known kidney disease. They did an eGFR which was perfect as well. There were no abnormalities in calcium or hematocrit levels either. While I know human medicine looks for other signs, as an educated vet tech (educated, but not someone who worked as a vet tech) having had a kitty with kidney disease for 6 years, those are the things I look at. They did not do a urinalysis at the doctor’s office, but one was done at the hospital last Tuesday night/Wednesday morning and showed nothing irregular. I have a copy of those results. I do have autoimmune thyroid disease: Hashimoto’s, so your points about that are interesting indeed and correlate with some of what Al said.

          Thanks so much for being so understanding and kind.

          • Also Abused

            I’m going to say a Hail Mary for you now get yourself to the ER my brother was there yesterday do like I did or get someone to go with you make them find out what is wrong if its the money or the lack they can not turn you down Greg my brother has not money no job and he owes them tons of money I told him I have SS use it give them each a dollar and say that all i can borrow.

            • Thanks tonya, I have insurance. I’m at the er now, all plugged in and stuff. I so appreciate your prayers.

        • I have family over for Cinco de Mayo, so I’ll be checking in sporadically.

          I love love love everyone here!! Muah!

          And I love love love our Jodi!!

          • Ditto here Sil! I so love both Cinco de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day too. Hispanics will be a majority here in California in a few short years so these two days will become equal to the 4th of July!!!:-)lol

  9. it is so weird i was going to go to sleep and then checked my Facebook and emails then returned home here its destiny that I got first place again. Hope that my intuition is going to be good because I predict that Jodi will not get 1st degree murder and to all the hate sites this is for you 🙄 🙄 will be doing that when the verdict come in to you

    • I pray she can walk out a free woman. Maybe I am thinking too positive. But I don’t think JM proved anything. He lied and projected his lying on her. His witnesses were honestly aweful. The Jury question that asks the ME about the bullet he said didn’t make it to the brain before. Then the ME got up and lied about something he forgot he said. True life is the velocity in all intensive purposes didn’t make it to the brain. So YES Travis very likely was lunging at Jodi threatening her life. JM puts on Psychology supposed Experts that don’t know the difference between PTSD and Borderline Personality Disorder? The defense has on 3 strong psychologists with years and years of experience.
      If Jody doesn’t get at least manslaughter, but I think Freedom, this needs big time Appeal!

  10. I posted this on the last page and thought I’d repost it. Al and others may have some thoughts:

    While googling something last week, I came across a Legal Question & Answer thread on one of the hater sites. There are lawyers on there who answer questions. It’s been a really tough read as the lawyers are all so incredibly biased and the people asking questions are haters to the nth degree. However, there is some interesting stuff that I didn’t know about pertinent to AZ law interwoven among the hatred as there is a lawyer in Maricopa County who posts on there.

    One thing that interested me was that this lawyer said if the jurors ask for testimony to be read back to them from the trial, the judge will more than likely refuse and will instruct them to rely on their own recollection (as she did during the trial). In fact, this lawyer said he/she has never heard of a Maricopa County judge allowing testimony to be read back. Wow! In IL (back when I was involved in trials anyway), it was not uncommon at all for jurors to ask for testimony to be read back to them. Sometimes, they asked for transcripts, and generally, that was denied after the attorneys argued about it. Usually, that was because they were asking for transcripts of one side’s witness and the other side would vehemently object because they worried it didn’t favour their case. However, read backs of small portions of testimony were very common.

    I googled this a bit further and apparently, in FL, appellate courts have found it to be an abuse of the trial court’s discretion NOT to read back testimony. From what I found, it’s also very common in CA, NY and NJ for jurors to ask for testimony read backs and it’s typically granted. Apparently, in TX though, it’s common for a judge to refuse such a request. Also, in multiple federal cases, there are appellate opinions that testimony SHOULD be read back to jurors — of course, as long as counsel is apprised of the request and involved in the decision.

    In AZ, it seems the Supreme Court considers that read backs *should* be granted by the judge, especially in lengthy trials: http://www.supreme.state.az.us/jury/jury/jury1l.htm

    “Requests for particular exhibits or partial read backs of transcripts generally ought to be met. Since the jurors are the decision-makers, they ought to have the right to decide what evidence they need to rehear, and that decision ought to be respected. However, the judge should inform the jurors that the meeting of their request does not mean the judge feels one way or the other about the exhibit or particular testimony, and that they should consider all of the evidence in the case in making their decision.”

    So that begs the question — assuming this attorney who answered on that forum is indeed correct — why is this request commonly refused in Maricopa County?

    • Never assume a lawyer answering a question is right.

      The Arizona Supreme court and the 9th district, both of whom have jurisdiction over Maricopa County Superior court have precedent that not reading back the transcripts is reversibile error.

      However, there is a long standing precedent for the testimony being read back in court as opposed to handing the jury a transcript. Also a supplemental instruction is typically issued prior to and after the read back reminding the jury that they need to consider the evidence in its entirety.

      • “Never assume a lawyer answering a question is right.”

        Truest words spoken — especially on a hater site with such biased attorneys.

        Based on your answer then, I’m assuming you believe that if such a request came from the jury, the judge *would* allow a read back?

        With this being such a lengthy trial, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if jurors made such a request. I have forgotten half of the testimony already!

      • Interesting posts by Also Abused and Al about readbacks. The jury procedures manual for the 9th Circuit is a good read, but probably requires legal training to interpret?
        The manual says the court has broad discretion on readbacks, it should balance the jurors’ need to review the evidence before reaching their verdict against the difficulty involved in locating the testimony to be read back, the possibility of undue emphasis on a particular portion of testimony read out of context, and the possibility of undue delay in the trial.
        Furnishing prior testimony may place undue emphasis on that testimony. This is particularly true when the testimony repeated to the jury directly contradicts the defendant’s testimony or that of other defense witnesses. Jurors should be told to give full consideration to the entirety of the testimony when a specific witness’s testimony is read back in part or in full. A cautionary instruction can mitigate the danger of undue emphasis. The judge has to consult with counsel before denying readback request, it is an error to deny readback without proper consultation with counsel. However, absent a showing of prejudice, the error is harmless. On the other hand the manual says the judge should probably never send a transcript of testimony into the jury room.

        • “it is an error to deny readback without proper consultation with counsel. However, absent a showing of prejudice, the error is harmless.”

          Interesting, Dell. Thanks for summarizing that.

        • Dell,

          Of course just like anything else the read back is at the judge’s discretion

          Rule 22.3 says
          “After the jurors have retired to consider their verdict, if they desire to have any testimony repeated, or if they or any party request additional instructions, the court may recall them to the courtroom and order the testimony read or give appropriate additional instructions. The court may also order other testimony read or give other instructions, so as not to give undue prominence to the particular testimony or instructions requested. Such testimony may be read or instructions given only after notice to the parties.”

          AA,

          The harmless error was when the judge provides the read back without consultation with counsel.

          So like so many things in law, it comes down to the circumstances.

          • Yep, and I think with the “circumstances” of JM being one of the counsel, Judge Stephens would not DARE make that error, harmless or not!

        • court should have the internet and each juror should have a monitor that way they could look stuff up buy using find it or to view photo the way the system is now the will get frustrated and give up if they had not already made up their minds already.

  11. Also Abused

    read and nasty if they do not get to have something read to them more shit they have to step in

  12. What a wonderful thing Jodi is doing in regards to these t-shirts. Bless her heart. This will make the haters lose their ever loving minds. Yes, she is using her “publicity” to do something good for other people who have been abused. Since the haters are sooooo angry about her domestic violence defense, perhaps they could do the same — instead of collecting thousands of dollars for the Alexander family. Imagine if a shelter got a donation of $3,500 (or whatever the huge amount was given to the Alexander family). Imagine how many victims might be able to finally leave their abusers because of that kind of help!

  13. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this judge disallowed the defense questioning to be read back but allowed Juan’s nonsensical riddles to be since his convoluted bs didn’t make sense the first time. How can the jury be expected to remember every detail since it’s been going on for so long? If they do I hope they notice that JM would spend inordinate amounts of time trying to twist the words of the witness and in the end usually only got one verb or consonant to change. He’s such a useless prick.

    • out of all i have seen and heard of the trial the one that stood out to me the most was the closing by Nurmi he was short and to the point pointed out the fact about the people will hate you if you don’t give the right verdict and to use there common sense and look at the evidence he was not jumping all over the court room ranting and raven about lies lies lies what does lies have to do with the evidence

    • Yeah, I didn’t know about this – I had always just assumed anything the jury asked for about the trial during their deliberations, if it was available, they would automatically get it.

  14. Those pedo huggers are so freaken funny!! After my post where I was very kind, they were very nasty. They blocked me from the site and continue to respond to the post. I cant defend myself because they blocked me from doing so. LOL they are freaken Idiots!! One of them that responded had a picture of Michael Jackson…She is a serious PEDO HUGGER!!!

    • Assholes. Here’s a quote suited for them.

      “Those who enjoy their own emotionally bad health and who habitually fill their own minds with the rank poisons of suspicion, jealousy and hatred, as a rule take umbrage at those who refuse to do likewise, and they find a perverted relief in trying to denigrate them.”
      Johannes Brahms

    • Jennifer, they are indeed insane. But I feel I must set you straight on Michael Jackson. His story was nothing other than another media fanfare orchestrated in part, by none other than Nasty DisGrace alone with her cohort, Diane Diamond(less) — much as you’re seeing here. Before you do ANYTHING else, please listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5M4wkIf78o That is a recording of Jordie Chandler’s father, Evan Chandler, discussing how he will frame Michael if he does not pay him the money he wants to produce his films. Jordie Chandler is the boy Michael Jackson was accused of molesting in 1993.

      • Also, Jennifer, please read this: http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html It is a GQ article about how Michael Jackson was framed by the father of the child he allegedly abused in 1993.

        Let me just excerpt this paragraph because it really tells it all:

        “And what became of the massive investigation of Jackson? After millions of dollars were spent by prosecutors and police departments in two jurisdictions, and after two grand juries questioned close to 200 witnesses, including 30 children who knew Jackson, not a single corroborating witness could be found. (In June 1994, still determined to find even one corroborating witness, three prosecutors and two police detectives flew to Australia to again question Wade Robson, the boy who had acknowledged that he’d slept in the same bed with Jackson. Once again, the boy said that nothing bad had happened.)”

        As for Michael’s 2005 trial, I highly recommend that you read Aphrodite Jones’ book, the “Michael Jackson Conspiracy” if you want to learn more about how those nasty scam artists set him up.

        I was NEVER a huge MJ fan (although I grew up with the guy), but during that trial, something struck me as wrong with Diane Diamond and Nancy Grace’s “reporting” during that trial in 2005, especially since I was abused as a child. I began reading the nightly trial transcripts (as the case was not televised) which someone kindly posted online. I was amazed that what was being “reported” was NOT what was being given as testimony. Seeing what was done to that man prompted me to go out and buy ALL of his albums. That man later died from the travesty of what was done to him and it’s a tragedy, just as Jodi’s case is.

        Learning the truth about Michael, I found myself unable to EVER trust the media again. Was it wrong that Michael had kids sleep in his bed? For one, he rarely did that. And if it was wrong, then I guess it was wrong of me to have my friend’s sons sleep with me when they stayed over at my house. I guess I’m as big a pervert as Michael, but I’m just not famous.

        • AA,
          I thought the trials were twisted but if you watch an interview before the accusation was made of Michael and the boy something wasn’t right in the way they touched each other. That boy from Home Alone gave an interview that Michael tried to touch him once and wanted to shower with him.
          The media is so twisted I agree. I never listened to MJs music.
          My point that I was trying to make with the photo is that he is an accused pedo and that TA is one so I found it amusing that she had his photo on her page.
          Sorry I didn’t mean to offend anyone on here with that comment. SORRY 🙁

          • No worries, Jennifer. I just always feel it’s my “duty” to point out the truth about MJ. And I will continue to do so. Perhaps after watching this trial, you’ll see that there just may be another side.

            Okay, so you’re talking about the video with the 2005 boy, Gavin Arvizo, right? And the video made by Martin Bashir? Did you ever see the entire video uncut — the one presented by Maury Povich? You see, Martin Bashir twisted that all up. That boy, Gavin Arvizo, had cancer, and his mother went out of her way to approach MJ to get him to take an interest. I mean, seriously out of her way. She tried Jay Leno as well, but he didn’t bite. Here’s another video of them hanging at Neverland: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBH6ap7GS30 It might just give you a different perspective.

            Macaulay Culkin, the Home Alone star, actually testified in the 2005 trial and he said Michael NEVER touched him. He NEVER gave an interview that Michael did anything to him. That’s what you’re remembering from the very strange media coverage. Here’s some of Macaulay’s actual testimony:

            “Q. How long has he been a friend of yours?
            A. I first met him when I was 9 or 10 years old.
            Q. And how did you meet him?
            A. He kind of called me out of the blue one time, just said, “Hey,” you know, “This is Michael Jackson.” And this is after the “Home Alone” movie had come out. So it’s kind of like — it was like, ”I think I understand kind of what’s happening, and I’d like to get together and talk.”
            Q. And he’s still your friend?
            A. Yes, he is.
            …
            Q. You heard about some of the allegations about whether or not Mr. Jackson improperly ever touched you, right?
            A. Yes.
            Q. Did Mr. Jackson ever molest you?
            A. Never.
            Q. Did Mr. Jackson ever improperly touch you?
            A. Absolutely not.
            Q. Has Mr. Jackson ever touched you in any sexual type of way?
            A. No.
            Q. Has he ever touched you in any offensive way?
            A. No.
            Q. What do you think of these allegations?
            A. I think they’re absolutely ridiculous.
            Q. When did you first learn that these prosecutors were claiming that you were improperly touched?
            A. When did I first learn that?
            Q. Yes.
            A. I — somebody called me up and said, “You should probably check out CNN, because they’re saying something about you”.
            Q. And did you check it out?
            A. Yes, I did.
            Q. And what did you learn?
            A. I learned that it was a former cook had done something to me, and there was something about a maid or something like that. It was just one of those things where I just couldn’t believe it. I couldn’t believe that, first of all, these people were saying these things or — let alone that it was out there and people were thinking that kind of thing about me. And at the same time it was amazing to me that they — that nobody approached me and even asked me whether or not the allegations were true. They kind of just were — threw it out there just like — they didn’t even — they didn’t even double-check it basically. I mean, even if they assumed that they knew the answer, what got me was that they didn’t even ask.
            Q. Now, are you saying these prosecutors never tried to reach you to ask you your position on this?
            A. No, they didn’t.
            Q. Do you know if any police officer from Santa Barbara has ever tried to call you to see what the truth is?
            A. No.”

            From his cross-examination:

            “Q. And did Mr. Jackson ever do anything improper to you on any of these trips?
            A. No.
            Q. Ever see him do anything that you found disturbing on any of these trips?
            A. Absolutely not.
            Q. Has Mr. Jackson ever hugged you?
            A. Sure.
            Q. Have you ever hugged him?
            A. Absolutely.
            Q. Were you ever suspicious of any of these hugs as being something sexual in nature?
            A. No, it was always very casual. It was just the way I hug any of my friends.
            Q. Did you ever see Mr. Jackson hug your sister?
            A. Sure.
            Q. Were you ever suspicious of his hugging your sister?
            A. No.
            Q. Ever see Mr. Jackson hug your brothers?
            A. Yeah.
            Q. Ever see them hug him?
            A. Yes.
            Q. Did you ever think anything suspicious was going on when your brothers hugged Mr. Jackson?
            A. No, it was always just how you kind of greeted him, greeted almost anyone basically that you were close with.
            …
            Q. Mr. Culkin, as a nine-year-old child, what did you wear to bed?
            A. I wore my clothes.
            Q. You would just wear whatever you were wearing during the day?
            A. Yeah.
            Q. Every single night?
            A. Up until I was about 17 years old. That’s when I kind of discovered what pajamas were.
            Q. And you did that at home as well?
            A. Yeah.
            Q. Whatever you were wearing?
            A. I always fell asleep in jeans and socks and a T-shirt.
            Q. All right. So whenever you were at Neverland, you would crawl into bed in jeans and socks and a T-shirt?
            A. Yeah.
            Q. How old were you when you stopped sleeping in bed with Michael Jackson?
            A. Well, like I said, I stopped going there just because I had really — I had never really found myself going to Los Angeles or anything like that. So I didn’t really come back again until I was about 17.
            Q. The question was, when did you stop sleeping –
            A. I know. I’m getting there. And so when I got — when I started coming back again, I found myself just not sleeping in bed. And I’ve always kind of fell asleep in the guest units ever since then.
            Q. Why didn’t you stay with Mr. Jackson in his room?
            A. Because I enjoyed my privacy a little bit more.
            Q. All right. So is it safe to say that up until and through your 13th year, you stayed with Mr. Jackson in his room?
            A. On occasion — On occasion I’d fall asleep there or wherever. It wasn’t really like a thing to, like, ”Let’s go to sleep in a particular place.” On occasion I’d end up falling asleep there. I’d fall asleep anywhere.
            Q. Did he tell you how close he felt to you?
            A. Yeah, and I’m trying to explain –
            THE COURT: You don’t need to explain.
            A. Okay. I understand. Yeah, we were close.

            Redirect:
            Q. Did you ever consider making false allegations against Mr. Jackson so you could get money?
            A. Absolutely not.
            Q. Did you ever even imagine doing such a thing?
            A. No.”

            That was the Home Alone star’s ACTUAL testimony on the stand. Hardly the “interview” you heard of, right? See how this gets sooooo twisted? The interview Macaulay gave was with Larry King wherein he DENIED any molestation.

            It was actually a former major d’homo of Neverland (Phillipe LeMarqu) who testified for the prosecution that he saw MJ with Macaulay on his lap and MJ’s hands down his pants. A former maid testified that she saw MJ and Macaulay in the shower. Obviously, their testimony was BLOWN apart when Macaulay himself took the stand.

            Interestingly enough, LeMarque (along with his wife who was a Neverland chef), was fired after 10 months in Neverland employ for theft. They then opened a restaurant, but it didn’t go well and they got into a million dollars of debt. It was then that he decided to peddle his story to tabloids that he saw Macaulay Culkin being “molested” by Michael Jackson. Initially, his story was that Michael “caressed” Macaulay, and he was asking $100,000 to tell that story. But a while later, he was offered $500,000 if he would “add” to the story and say he saw MJ’s hands in Macaulay’s pants. He enlisted the help of Paul Baresi, a former porn star who had frequented his restaurant, to help him peddle the story. Baresi actually tricked LeMarque and recorded his “story” and sold it to The Globe, pulling a runaround on LeMarque and collecting the cash for himself. LeMarque then went on to launch an internet porn site of “teens”, Virtual Sin, and another site Galaxy 101, educating others on how to launch internet porn sites and how featuring “teens” was the biggest moneymaker!

            The former maid, Adrian McManus, was also fired from Neverland when she was caught having sex with two male security guards while “on the clock”. The security guards were also fired and sold their stories to the tabloids. McManus, inspired by the money they made, went on to make a living by giving interviews regarding the “fake noses” that MJ had in his closet. Strangely enough, his autopsy report debunked ALL of that. Before she did that, she sued MJ along with the other employees who had been fired with her, stating that she would go public with all her “dirty little gossip” unless he paid her $5 million In fact, as brought out in the 2005 trial, she wrote him a letter saying she didn’t want to sue him, she just wanted some money and if he paid her $5 million, she wouldn’t sue him. On the stand, Tom Mesereaus, MJ’s attorney, also pointed out all the people she had previously told that the 1993 charges against MJ were bullshit and he NEVER did anything improper with kids. Amazing how someone’s story changes for a few million bucks, huh? After MJ’s death, McManus also claimed MJ was very very ill during her time in Neverland, had heart disease, and that he died twice of overdoses while she worked there. Hmmm, again, his autopsy showed his heart as very healthy.

            The sad thing about MJ is that people were able to make a fortune selling stories about him, and they did. Again, now that you’ve seen how the media twists things in Jodi’s trial, perhaps you’ll think a bit more about whether or not MJ was a pedophile or not.

              • WOOO ……I didn’t mean to offend you all…….Sorry!!!
                I was just trying to point out that he was accused of it and TA is one and she had his photo next to hers on her webpage.
                I never said he was guilty or was found guilty. He lived a little different then most men do. I don’t know why he lived like he did or why he did the strange things he did. He was a talented man that is WHAT I DO KNOW!!! He is gone and I do not like to speak ill of people unless I have solid PROOF of something. That is why I defend Jodi the way I do. Her testimony gave me SOLID proof that she was abused by TA.
                Didn’t Diane Diamond lose her show because of her false reporting?
                I must also say that I feel OJ was not guilty also!!

        • Michael Jackson was never guilty of anything.

          There is a special place in hell for Diane Dimond. She is even more despicable that Nancy Grace.

            • I thought it was disgusting how Nancy Grace and all of the others raked MJ over the coals when he was the defendant in a trial, but then acted like they always loved him when Conrad Murray was the defendant. Such hypocrisy!

                • I too was disgusted how the talking heads were so sure Michael was such a bad person, laughing at him, mocking him, then when he died thy were dripping with hypocricy of the worst kind.
                  They, themselves bullied Michael.
                  I never believed a word they said, still don’t. I’m so sick of hateful people trying to run a wonderful sweet and kind person down.

                  The boy that was burned so bad by his Dad, had many surgery’s. The dad was going to kill himself too, but jumped out of the bed.
                  Michael Jackson showed him so much love and Michael to this child was considered more like his father.

                  Michael was evrything good and as usual the media tried to distroy him, BUT his fans knew the real Michael Jackson. Too bad the media didn’t.
                  I’m so sick of the media and their hate. Ireally don’t pay any attention to them.
                  I know MOST of the time they are lying.
                  How they sleep at night, I will never know.

              • I was devastated when MJ died. I went up to The Apollo on 125th street in Harlem and celebrated Michael’s life. I could some how understand that a human being could only handle so much in one life. Even though I know his concert would have been the best ever and he meant to make it the best ever..
                But Nancy Disgrace and whoever works with her need people to do the same thing back to them.
                The first time MJ had to go to court I said he wasn’t guilty. Everyone called me naïve. I am not naïve, I just looked at MJ’s life and recognized what he was trying to recapture. I till today miss him so much.

      • I agree AA. I never doubted MJ’s innocence. I know we did not get unbiased or complete reports of what went on at that trial. I feel that these false accusations were the beginning of the end for Michael. I am almost the same age as MJ, by a few months and have loved him since the beginning of his career. I think there should be a special place in hell for the people who falsely accused him and all the others who falsely reported about him. I have set many people straight about the reality of the situation.

        I have known of people who were accused of child abuse and when asked, would I ever let my child go anywhere with them, I would always concede that no, I would not, just in case. However in Michael’s case, I could honestly say without hesitation that yes, I would trust him 100% with my children. His only crime ever was his complete trust and innocence. He trusted the wrong people and paid dearly for it. I can’t even bear to think of the music the world has been robbed of because he was taken from us all too soon. I hope Conrad Murray rots in prison. He left us with this one last beautiful song.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU

    • Hi Jennifer-
      Just catching up on posts and saw that you were felling better yesterday. So happy for you. Prayer works.

      • Thanks TR. I have felt better more each day. So I know that all of my friends on here who pray for me are great souls because GOD hears their words.

    • Hi Jennifer and all, want to have a laugh, we all need one. From the other side!! LOL

      ”I thought that was a weird comment for an attorney to make about his “battered, PTSD, fog afflicted, had to fight for her life client. Isn’t the defenses argument that she is the “victim” – why would he not like her? Oh yeah, because like the prosecution Nurmi believes she is an evil, dangerous murderer.”

      How dim can one get? 🙂

      • WOW that is one dim witted individual!!! Are they that stupid that they did not get what Nurmi was trying to say with that…It is not about us liking the person we have to listen to the facts presented not THE person on trial!!
        I love my fiancé a lot but I must say that yes 9 out of 10 days he drives me CRAZY and I want to hit him with a car. BUT I STILL LOVE HIM!!!

  15. Finally got to the page after being away most of yesterday. I saw a bunch of posts saying Nurmi should have pointed this or that out, and wondering why he didn’t.

    Here’s my two pennies’ worth.

    We has over 4 months of testimony. There were a ton of points that would favor one side or the other, a million little contradictions and mini themes all through those 56 days of trial. There is no way under the sun that either attorney could have covered all of that in a limited closing. Also, Nurmi stood a huge risk of losing the jury in the minutiae if he went into the little nit picky details that stick out to all the folks that followed the trial. Instead what he had to do was lay out, in broad terms, the path he wants the jury to go down, and he needs to do this in a manner that the salient milestones/landmarks of that path stick out. Then he needs to rely on a conscientious jury doing its job and deliberating to the fullest.

    And I think he achieved this purpose very well.

    The main themes of the defense’s case are very simple:

    1. Jodi did not set out to kill TA and her actions are inconsistent with someone doing that.
    2. Something happened that led to the situation that day. Jodi claims TA was abusive and she feared for her life, and there is evidence to prove his abusiveness.
    3. Her behavior after the killing is consistent with a traumatic event.

    Given the amount of time he had available, he needed to drive these three points home. If he can get the jury to start deliberating down those lines, they can go back and revisit the evidence, the testimony and have all the discussions they need. However he needs to have them starting down this path. So instead of picking apart the State’s case with a fine toothed comb he opted for a broad approach that sets the theme.

    So he spent a lot of time pointing out why this was not premeditated. That is a must. He has to get them to first agree that this was not premeditated. If he can’t do that the rest is moot. So he spent over an hour doing that. ( I have a feeling that the judge limited these folks to 3 and a half hours each because thats what they both took). Sprinkled throughout his arguments were nullifications of the state’s case due to the lying of Horn and Flores and the inexperience of others.

    Now if it was not premeditated what was it. This is the abuse column of his argument and he spent almost an hour discussing TAs treatment of Jodi, played the tape, showed some texts, etc. He started and ended this part asking for consideration of the self defense claim.

    Lastly he needed to address the scene and physical evidence, and that is what he did in the third part of his closing, again blasting the state’s case. This is where the biggest issue lies with respect to the self defense case, in terms of a possibility that some in the jury may think she went too far. He had to address that issue and that’s where the manslaughter charge comes in. But for that charge to be valid, the incident must have started due to some reason not related to a calculation on Jodi’s part. That is why he must first remove the premeditation leg, the create the abuse leg and now show that something started the incident and it is quite likely that it was due to provocation on TA’s part. That is why that argument has to come last.

    So all in all, I think he did just fine. The defense now has to rely on the jury following the path they have laid out for him. As this trial went along, the jurors had to have formed certain impressions. That’s just how the human brain works. It takes in info and keeps forming opinions, that they keep molding as more information comes in. Once all is said and done they can, and often do, go back and rethink the issues and reformulate their conclusions, but those conclusions start forming early on. You could see that just out of the jury questions. Some of the questions were actually based on the testimony of prior witnesses, that were rolled into a question asked of a current witness. And you could see from those questions that at least one juror, if not more, were buying the path laid out by the defense. And I think Nurmi did a wise thing by bringing up some of those jury questions. When he did that he was talking directly to the person who asked those questions. He was telling them they were right and asking them to ponder harder and longer and bring those issues up again during deliberation.

    So in all I think Nurmi did a reasonably good job getting this jury started down the path he needs them to follow. Of course we would all have a different way of handling this, but he’s the guy up there.

    Now, we must hope that the jury will deliberate this case with all due rigor. And I believe they will. It is normal for a jury to take a quick straw poll as soon as deliberations start, and they then set their schedule based on a feeling of where they are headed. After having been at this for over 4 months, I’m sure if they felt they could get this dealt in a day they would have either opted to stay late or come in over the weekend. The fact that they set a schedule starting Monday leads me to believe that they feel they have some work ahead of them. That means at least some are on Jodi’s side. Short of an immediate, and outright acquittal, that is actually a good thing for the defense.

    • If the jury comes back early on Monday with a verdict, it will be devastating, I believe. I don’t think they deliberated at all — not even taking a quick poll — on Friday. I think they had some long days, a great deal of information to process from those days, and they simply discussed their schedule and probably elected a foreperson.

      My hope is that Nurmi appealed enough to their common sense, along with their sense of decency, that they will begin to deliberate in earnest on Monday and consider all the evidence they have heard.

      Could you, if you have time, point out which juror questions Nurmi addressed specifically? I didn’t pick up on that, and don’t want to re-listen yet.

      • They shouldn’t deliberate at all if it is an acquittal. The prosecution’s case was completely discredited by Horn’s bullshit.

        If the key witness for the prosecution can’t be believed, then none of the case has validity.

        • Actually, tonysam, while I do understand your ardor in this respect I must beg to differ, and so does the law.

          Here is the issue; A person is dead as a result of homicide (remember any killing of a human is homicide, and not all homicide is a crime) and another person has acknowledged committing that homicide. Now what the jury needs to decide is whether that homicide was justifiable or not. And if it was not justifiable, then the jury must decide on the degree of culpability. In this case the “Not Guilty” verdict only comes if the homicide was justifiable under the law.

          Now the law says that the jury may, based on its assessment of a witness’s credibility accept or reject all or part of that witness’s evidence. Let us assume that the jury rejects all of Horn and Flores’ testimony based on their lies. That still leaves you with the incontestable fact that a homicide occurred and, by her own testimony, Jodi committed it. So they must still decide whether or not it was justifiable. In order for them to determine that Jodi was not the person committing said homicide, they would have to reject her testimony about being involved. That would then require them to reject all sorts of testimony given by Jodi about what happened that day, and would now have to deal with the yet un-refuted fact that a homicide occurred, and the other evidence that shows her presence at the scene.

          So, much as we might want it to be, this is not quite as simple as you might think.

      • AA,

        Two instances that come to mind immediately were the Tiger/bear question and a question that was asked of ALV about the ability to stop once hse started. There was one more, where I remember Nurmi saying that the same question was asked of both Jodi and ALV with slightly different language, but I can’t, for the life of me, remember the question.

        Having one of those “duh” moments.

    • Al,

      A most excellent summation! Just what I needed to read after a 13 hour, transatlantic flight!! (Hate those flights, I really do).

      On the bright side, Jodi now has support in another country abroad (at least as long as I am here :D)

    • Thanks Al, good summary.
      Yes, they will deliberate carefully, there seemed to be a few very inquisitive and thinking people on the jury from the questions that were asked.

    • Al- I agree. I thought Nurmi did a stellar job. When he was finished, I felt like all the pieces were put together and I had a full understanding of what happened, including during the killing in self defense, itself. I am very hopeful that this jury will take it’s dury very seriously and will see that the entire
      State’s case is based on lies from the ME to the Detective. JM harped on “not believing a liar” so the jury will probably take that to mean not to believe the State’s witnesses!!

    • Thanks for your post. I really don’t think they did anything on Friday except pick a foreman.

    • Good morning and great post—totally agree with you and hoping the ones that made it to the jury are pretty pro Jodi. There are some there for sure based on some of the questions.

  16. I would love to have one of these shirts. So many of us never told about what these abusers were doing to us. Who would have believed us?

  17. The last couple of days I tried to subtly pick a fight with insults at HLN’s fb page but these idiots didn’t bite. Evidently they don’t understand subtle. I just feel like telling someone off but I shall refrain from going all psycho and ghetto on they asses since they have that attitude sewed up. Morons.

    • Really? They actually hunt me down and attack me on Jodi support pages. Come on over; these shitbags are rearing to fight.

      • lol…I know what you mean Basse. I’ve tried to be nice, and engage them in a conversation about what is abuse and what isn’t, discuss the evidence, and show them another side, but they don’t want that. They purposely avoid anything that doesn’t fit their agenda. So I normally just go over there to “poke the hornets nest” and stir them up a bit. I have seen several people who are now speaking up more in support of Jodi over there, but mostly they remain silent.
        Sometimes they just need a reality check! LOL

        • Our conversations (if you can call them that), always go something like this:

          xxx

          The end.

          • I agree with that!! I went on the site to tell them that I am not an IDIOT neither are the rest of the people on this site and the admin responded that they were not referring to intelligence they were reffering to us having no common sence. To which I replied that I thought it was childish the way they degrade us for having a different opinion. That this is a sad case and two families are suffering and a person is dead and that page is concentrating on what we say on this site. WHen we ALL need to concentrate right now on supporting the family of our choice.And not on what the other side is saying. And for all that I got booted my comment was taken off after several people responded what an idiot I was and I got what they said because how face book notifies you when a comment gets commented oon and I could not even go defend myself because they had me barred from the site.

            • They are incredibly infantile. The same has happened to me. Posts that are using critical thinking and reasoning and present a different opinion have been removed, without coming anywhere near violating any terms of service or anything like that.

              I just want to say, that my mother became a Jehovah’s Witness when I was about 13, and so I grew up surrounded by them, and they are very, very much like Mormons. The mind set and attitudes that I see on all of the hate sites sound like the same mindset and same attitudes. Having been immersed in the religion (but never baptized), it doesn’t surprise me. Everything is very black and white, women are to keep to their place as secondary to men and obedient, and everyone who doesn’t do their definition of “God’s will” deserves to die in Armageddon, which is always just around the corner, or “any minute”.

              A lot of this, to me, is hatred because Jodi is “uppity”, if you know what I mean. How dare she defend herself. How dare she, anything.

              I was severely abused by the first person I “dated”, a person who ended up stalking me and still does. I never told ANYONE about that abuse, because I would have been blamed by my family for the abuse. They blamed me for being stalked, as well. My brother, who is the main religious person, has been the ringleader for blaming me for not following the religion as they deemed I should. Anyone who leaves the religion is dead to them, not just gone from the religion, but, dead to them and deserving of anything bad that happens to them.

              In addition, I have always been very careful of what I write down as regards journaling, because I have been taught, and experience has taught me, that almost everything you write down will be read somehow, by someone that you don’t want to read it.

              • I wanted to add, that at one point during the abuse by the creep who still stalks me, when I realized that I really, truly couldn’t get rid of him and neither was he ever going to be anything remotely like a friend….Wait, I’ll back track a little, I was in denial for a long time about the danger I was in. A lot of that is because I never told anyone what was going on so I never got any feedback from anyone with my best interests at heart.

                The other reason is that I was so incredibly naive that I thought I could tell him I didn’t want to be “with” him, but we could still be friends. Another reason is that my religious older brother and his wife blamed me for his behavior by telling me that I “led him on”, of course that was something the abuser said to me as well.

                Anyway, he had come over to my home unexpectedly yet again, and a fight ensued because I was angry about it. I told him that I wanted him to stop calling, stop showing up, just stop. I had stupidly allowed him into my apartment to “reason” with him. I was so frustrated that I told him to leave, at which point he grabbed me and started pulling my shirt off as I wrestled with him to get away from me. He got my shirt off and I let him have it in my effort to get away from him. He then pulled a gun on me and held that gun to my temple. He told me that I was not allowed to tell him to leave me alone and that he would kill me before he would “let” me go out with someone else. My response was “go ahead and pull the trigger, my life is worth nothing because I can’t get rid of you”. At that point, a neighbor slid a window open, letting us know that someone was listening close by. That is the only reason that I think he didn’t pull the trigger. He then fled my apartment.

                I never told anyone about it until much, much later. My family were already fond of bullying me themselves, and blaming me for everything that happened to me.

                Telling anyone would just have brought more abuse upon myself, and I certainly didn’t trust the police. I had a very good reason for not trusting them as well, which is another story.

                I know that there is a stereotype for abused women, and that also is a reason to not tell. No one wants to be put into that stereotype. At the same time, if you met me, you would never in a million years think any of this had happened to me.

                I’m from an upper middle class family, I’m very cheerful and kind. I have never used drugs of any kind. I have been very sheltered all of my life, and was prior to my mom’s involvement, then my brother’s involvement, with Jehovah’s Witnesses.

                In addition, I did not have many friends, and not by choice. When my family became involved with JW’s, I was not to associate with “worldly” kids, and was supposed to drop my “worldly” friends. I did that under pressure, but then found I had nothing in common wit h jw kids, and that I didn’t agree with the way they treated people and thought about people. So I was isolated by the religion to begin with, and then of course the abusive creep did as much as he could to isolate me further by smearing my reputation as much as possible. In fact, I don’t think there is anyone that he knew of that I was even acquainted with that he didn’t get to and gossip about me to. He is a very inappropriate person who has no inhibitions or boundaries and would say anything to anyone.

                These are reasons why I am so horrified about this whole trial. No one knows what goes on in people’s families, and then they judge them without really knowing anything about what abuse is like, what is involved. There is SO much more to it, and people like things to be short and sweet and wrapped up all tidy and neat and easy to understand. It’s easier to blame someone than understand them.

                Sorry that’s so long!

                • Darn it, I don’t know how to edit. Just wanted to add, that my background certainly has nothing to do with being abused, and anyone from any background can experience abuse. There are stereotypes, but they are false. Anyone can be a target of abuse. Didn’t mean to offend anyone with that comment, was just trying to say that I’m probably not the first person who would come to mind when most people think of someone who has been or is being abused.

            • It happened to me too, Jennifer. These aren’t people with sense, they’re just Things..

      • They are raring to go! Oh just so everyone knows, I am Alyce LaViolettes gay lesbian lover! Or so I have been told by one group of travisites! Oh, and I’m a stalker just like Jodi!!

        I am moving up in the world!! LOL

        • Gail wow I never knew that. Please tell your LOVER she is a great woman and should be proud of the work she has DONE. Please tell her that the next time you two are cuddling up! LOL

        • LMAO oh you gals are brave I would not even waste my fingers typing to them or reading their hateful words. Its just not worth it the calories I’d burn getting mad…lol

          I notice HLN seems to be dialing it back in case they lose I am sure. Don’t fake being a professional outet or unbiased now.

          And Miss Nasty I wish they’d keep her in the jail but thats cruel and unusual punishment to the inmates!

  18. AL YOU Are a true prince among men. Thank you for the song!!! GD music is like a drug soooo sooo addictive. I heard tit for the first time at a very young age my Mom told me I would cry when they turned it off. LOL Thank you for the continued well wishes!!!

  19. I really had a well needed day to decompress–love that Survivor song and the shirts. I find myself more peaceful and yet still overwrought– its not the knowing the result that is hard to process right now. I am just glad that I found this site where i could read learn and discuss all the real truths about TA.
    I cannot believe that the jurors will completely overlook Travis’s own words in sex tape and in the various texts.That is the only voice we have left of TA. They have to see that he was a deviant, narcissistic and Jodi was his sex doll to be used and abused. He failed for whatever reasons to find or get a good Mormom girl to marry him by age 30 and if he did he for sure would have continued freaky stuff on the side.

    They have to see that he derided and used verbally abusive wording in his texts Those are from Travis’s own hands.. I sense they will take Alyce into consideration who to me was bullied mercilessly but held her own and in plain words believes what she was privy to that suggesed abuse and TA being the dominant controlling type in the relationship. Would she put herself up for public ridicule for any other reason? I do not think so.

    I wish more had come in about any and all suggestions about perdophilia but i think those that know more were afraid to speak out for retaliations.

    If they do not discount that the fact that the ME was called to the stand and changed his words a littlle each time with a final smoking gun of what he referred to as a a typographical error with the gist being that he lied on the stand 3 times and his report is inaccurate. He must not be considered as having performed a reliable autopsy is my bottom line.

    Flores should have never gotten this case. The fact that he is a Mormon himself makes me trust him even less and he lied and called it a “misunderstanding”. What else might he have altered in his report—we do not know.

    The roomates and girlfriends had axcess to the crime scene and the house for 5 days why did nobody stress this? Even though she ultimately admitted to the killing a compromised crime scene and /or the potential that they removed any incriminating computer etc and evidence that Travis had that is derogatory and would help Jodi is a real possibility. They smelled him without a doubt by day two at the latest. That computer they examined was his business computer and was registered in Deanna’s name. I believe he had another computer for his porn and sicko sex stuff. There is no way that a man who knew about cream pies etc did not watch porn.

    The letter and emails exchanged between Sky Hughes and Travis are very telling. She was as sweetly as a friend can do tell him he was a player and toyed with women and that it wasn’t right.

    I know these thing have been discussed alot here it just bothers me that so few except The Freeman’s and a forced to Lisa suggested negative traits Travis displayed to them. Everyone else was silenced and did not want to say what they may have known.

    I know its out of anybody’s hands but the jury now and we can only hope for a just verdict. We are on the side of truth. I pray that the truth will prevail as best as it is possible.

    • And Daniel Freeman has since changed his tune slightly. That bothers me a great deal, actually. But he’s Mormon and in PPL so I suspect someone forced him to speak out differently.

    • Anything short of an outright acquittal is the wrong verdict.

      This is a case of something close to jury nullification.

      There is nothing to deliberate about. The prosecution is tainted and corrupt to the core.

      • I don’t know. Jury nullification is when the proof exists that the defendant is culpable, but for reasons that have nothing to do with the existing law, or the defendant’s culpability, the jury returns a not guilty verdict.

    • Kalista,
      And the picture that they show, they say that Jodi is dragging him?
      I can’t figure out how that was taken at all.
      In fact, I’ve never been able to make out that picture at all.

      I know what you mean about finding this sight. Its helped me more than
      anything. Thanks for all who made it.

      About the roommates being there for 5 days??
      That tells me something “WRONG” here.

      There’s so much wrong here, I don’t see how the verdict could be anything but
      an acquittal.

      • I thought I was losing it because I could never make out the picture and see what they “claim” is in it.
        I also do not get how Jodi did it alone. TA was a BIG boy and he wasn’t going to just stand there and let Jodi attack him. I think there was someone else there that day, I have tried to drag my fiancé who is about TAs size and I am bigger then Jodi and I couldn’t do it. Let alone lift him over the rim of the shower because there were no marks indicating that he was drug over the metal piece on the rim. The shower was running that is why the water was all over the floor. TA ran out of the shower after Jodi. I am pretty sure he didn’t take the time to turn it off before he ran after her. That is one thing that right away would make me say self defense if I was a juror.

        • Really Jennifer?
          Because every time I look at that picture, I can not figure it out either.
          I thought I was losing it too. lol
          What are they supposed to be saying ,that Jodi was dragging Trabis and in the meantime,
          just accidently the camera took that picture.
          No way!!
          That is total bullshit and I agree he must haveleft the water running.

          So juan says she sloushes back through the water, making it even harder for her to drag
          him PLUS pull him over the ledge .
          No way possible.
          The shower was 3 X 3? AND she supposedly pulled him back in?
          How and WHY would she do that anyway?
          None of this whole thing makes a bit of sense to me.

          And the knife marks are around his shoulders, NOT his back!
          That also says self defense.
          But if we have to make sense out of this, I can’t!

          • I just had to laugh when JM said he was shot last, I mean, did he actually expect to convince the jurors that he just stood there in the shower and let her stab him?

            I’d have handed my verdict in pronto after that!! 😀

            And yet the masses will hang on to every word of that. Unreal!

  20. I actually remember JVM and one of her talking heads, early on, saying this relationship was ‘no different than your average relationships nowadays’ and that TA was just an ‘average guy’. HELLO…really? Maybe that’s why you prefer women JVM and why the talking head that agreed with you is a spinster. Nothing against gays bc I am one but if this is how you think it goes in this day and age, you 3 holed wonders, then you need to bend over and take it in stride. That goes for Nasty Disgrace too. I imagine if she even suspects her hubby of having a freakish perverted thought she bitch slaps him. lol

    • Oh sure, he was just an average guy alright. Do “average guys” say things like ” I’m going to tie you to a tree and put it in your ass” or “You sound like a 12 year old girl having her first orgasm” or “There have been times when you’ve been miserable and I’ve liked raped you?” That’s just a few of his classics. If she thinks that’s normal I sure as hell don’t know how she would define abnormal.

      • I was talking with a friend last night. She’s also an abuse victim. She married him while in her 40s. Prior to that, she’d been married twice and she’d dated a fair amount of guys. I also had a fair amount of boyfriends before marrying my ex-husband. And both of us had female friends who were open and honest about their relationships. We were talking about the things Travis said to Jodi. No guy ever said those kinds of things to us — until we met our abusers. We never heard any of our female friends talk about guys saying those kinds of things either. Normal? I think not. “Unhealthy communication pattern”? Yeah, and then some.

        It’s really sickening to think that the world is being told those kinds of things are “normal” or “healthy”. I saw haters say “Travis was very respectful to women but Jodi was a temptress whore.” Respectful to women? Here’s what I know of the guy — even without knowing about what he did to Jodi. He convinced Deanna to break her vows to the law of chastity, while pretending to want to marry her. But he didn’t marry her. Then, he called her a stalker. He grabbed Lisa’s butt when she didn’t want him to and didn’t stop when she asked, and talked about sex with her frequently, even though it made her uncomfortable. While dating her, he had sex with Jodi behind her back. He pursued Mimi even when she told him she was only interested in friendship with him. While dating her, he had sex with Jodi behind her back. He tried to convince a poor girl who suffered from anorexia that if she didn’t come over, he’d kill himself. He talked to a married woman about sex. He strung along multiple girls at the same time — how many did we count? 10, 15? I lost track.

        Really respectful guy, huh? And that doesn’t even count what he wrote and said to Jodi — a woman he also described as “the easiest person to be nice to.” Uh-huh!

        • I was watching a girl talking about abusive relation ships
          and number ONE is charm.

          I know some are that way and are always that way, but when charm turns to abusive, most women are confused and think it’s only a one time thing OR but for the most part they think they are sweet, then abusive again.

          Talk about living a roller coaster romance.
          It would do their head.
          That’s why the ones that think they would never have stayed in a relationship stay.
          They love them and believe one day that they will change, but sadly it never does.

      • Jeff-
        How more transparent could TA have been. Anyone supporting so called Justice for Travis, should be fully embarassed. No body in thier right mind would support this type of vile and digusting person. That’s why I don’t bother to engage any of them, including HLN, in any on line posts. Not worth the time to try and reason with unreasonable and clearly demented people.

      • Normal for her – probably everything short of coprophilia. Movie 43 has a hilarious, totally off color bit with Anna Faris.

    • Good post – what world are people living in to think that TA’s behavior was normal. NOT!! At least not in my world, and I imagine most folks. The guy was a creep and abusive manipulator. How JVM or anyone else can condone this behavior is beyond me.

    • So there is something wrong with never being married or that never being married is akin to being gay?

      Oh, brother.

      • No Tonysam, nothing wrong with being either single and gay, which I am, but it is wrong to make light of abuse just to force feed your twisted views to others.

    • I don’t know about Nancy Grace slapping her husband for perverted thoughts, the woman wears handcuffs around her neck and black pleather. I suspect she might be a Dom, or just read too much Fifty Shades of Gray… 😉

    • I’ve wondered the same thing Gwen. I love your posts, by the way. I can’t stand how JVM or any of the pedo-hugging abuser-apologists try to pretend that Travis’ or Martinez’s behavior was somehow normal. It’s hypocritical that they accuse Jodi of “pathologizing” heterosexual relationships; but then, isn’t that exactly what they’re doing by pretending that abusive relationships are normal and healthy?

      I guess they haven’t thought of the social ramifications of allowing women to be abused and used as a human toilet by their boyfriends or husbands. People want women to make all these good decisions for themselves and their kids, but how can they when in a climate of intimidation, fear, and feeling worthless? Women are people not robots. Women are just as much a product of their upbringing and circumstances as anyone else. We cannot say abusers are just victims of their upbringing if we aren’t allowing the same compassion for victims of abuse.

      It’s STUPID to assume that women are somehow robots, programmed to act and behave a certain way despite the affects of negative human interaction – i.e. rape, abuse, bullying, terrorism, ect. And that, if a woman doesn’t have the behavioral output we expect, that she is somehow faulty. Or like a broken blender is disposable and should be replaced. But that’s how women are treated.

      I am disgusted with HLN’s programming. There are kids growing up watching this shit and taking home the message that the only way to be a “real man” is to be the biggest, most aggressive and destructive asshole as they can be; and that part of being a man is having the capacity and privilege to destroy women physically, emotionally, and psychologically. And that identity is the only thing that separates them from whom they view as inferior – women, children, the elderly, the infirm, and conquered peoples.

      No, I don’t believe men are like this. I believe ANYONE can form their own identity outside of this limited, stunted, destructive psychological framework.

  21. Jodi, I will buy the t-shirt and wear it for ever until it turns to shreds then cut it up to stuff a comfortable doggy bed. {{{{{{{{ hugs }}}}}}}}

  22. I admit I mometarily saw that preview of Grace in jail—anything for ratings over there.

    • I fear for the inmates. She’s going to lord it over them and verbally abuse them. Easy victims who cannot walk away, physically trapped.

  23. Has the judge said how long each day the jury will go? Will they start earlier than court did?

  24. SJ – you are awesome! I’m so glad there are people like you (who have the means and resources) willing to help Jodi out like this!

  25. ARIZONA COURTHOUSE BLUES
    A Short Play
    By CanadaLinda

    CHARACTERS
    Heinously Lewd Nimrod (We’ll shorten that to HLN): Visualize Tasmanian Devil. Big evil grin, sharp teeth, and drool – lots and lots of drool.
    (Dictionary definition of heinous: hateful; odious; abominable; totally reprehensible)
    Note to Prop Dept.: Have blond wig and handcuff necklace on stand-by.

    Justice For Jodi aka Voice of Reason ( We’ll shorten that to JJ) – A roving reporter. Visualize you, me or anyone contributing to this site!

    SETTING: Outside courthouse in Arizona. Large crowd gathered– amongst them are jugglers, sword swallowers, acrobats. Smell in the air of popcorn and cotton candy. Calliope music in background.

    JJ approaches HLN

    JJ: Excuse me. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?
    HLN: Whatever
    JJ: Any comments on the Jodi Arias trial?
    HLN: Ya..only one. Guilty!!!!!
    JJ: You seem to be very invested in this. I take it you’ve been watching the trial and listening carefully to the testimony?
    HLN: Don’t need to. She did it. She killed him! The bitch deserves to die!
    JJ: That her actions resulted in the death of Travis Alexander is not in dispute.
    HLN: Huh? So what the hell is the trial for? Just fry her skanky ass.
    JJ: Do you know anything about the case?
    HLN: Enough to know she’s guilty as hell. Tons of blood man…in the bathroom, the hallway, the bedroom. That must have been some fight! And then she killed him!
    JJ: What you’ve just described is what the defense is claiming…a struggle and ultimately self defense.
    HLN: Say what?!

    Voice in the crowd!: Verdict’s in! NOT GUILTY!

    Camera cuts back to HLN character. Manic spinning has stopped. Eyes are bulging. Devil creature is melting into stinky, brown slime. Note to camera man: Close in on the shit flies gathering over goo.
    Calliope music stops. Jugglers leave. Crowd is dispersing. Final shot on sign at base of courthouse steps:
    CIRCUS IS NOW CLOSED. NEXT STOP: FLORIDA!

    • THat is some FUNNY SHIT THERE!!! Hollywood should be calling you. I was amazed that Lifetime is the one making the movie not HLN. They will miss lead everyone in that movie just like they did in the Drew Peterson movie. It was so so far off ever the family of his third wife said so.
      GREAT POST THOUGH!!!

    • 🙂 Love it, CanadaLinda ! closeup zoom on the brown slime with gathering buzzing flies. LOL !

      and while the credits scroll up:
      Trumpets, Jodi walks out eyes blinking in the sunny springtime, friendly dragon swoops her out and drops her dressed as Snow White in the forest surrounded with little birds singing ‘FREE FREE FREE’

  26. Would anyone be willing to do something for me…..I live in Iowa and due to an incident with a cup, Nancy DisGrace, and a TV getting broken I am banned, by my fiancé, from all news channels except local news. And with this illness I fall asleep a lot during the day. If I was to have SJ email someone my phone number would you text me when the verdict comes back so I can get to a computer. I can’t figure out twitter and have just a regular cell phone. If you would be willing to do that let me know and I will have SJ email it to you.

    • I would totally do that, but I am overseas right now. I get back on the 14th. If I get back before a verdict is rendered, I will do it. Otherwise, I won’t be able to!!

    • Absolutely. I’d be more than happy to do that for you. Feel free to get my email address from SJ.

      • Thanks sweety! I will have Sj send it to you. I will email it to her now. Thank you

      • AA, if a verdict comes back before the 14th of May, would you be able to shoot me an email alerting me of the verdict once it comes in?

        10 hour time difference between me and AZ now 🙁 It’s driving me crazy!! I am hoping I’ll be back before the verdict is in!

  27. HLN is run by a bunch of ass clowns. ASS CLOWNS, I tell ya! I hope they lose the key when Nance gets locked up in ‘play’ jail and that JVM ends up going through garbage FO REEZY when this trial is over. And may karma be a super bitch to all those who have participated in ignoring the evidence for ratings sake.

    • Sometimes for laughs I play back the day Cassie Anthonys verdict was read and the reaction of the HLN talking asses! They all ate so much CROW that day!!

      • Question: What do you get when you have the crew over at HLN up to their necks in shit?
        Answer: More shit.

        • LOL Juan better be careful spewing all his shit, he’s so short he might drown in it.LOL

      • I do too, Jennifer! Their reactions were priceless. Also, for fun, I often play back Geraldo handing the Baez-haters their asses when Casey’s verdict came in.

        • Even though I don’t always agree with him, I like Geraldo regardless. Hannity said it best to Baez when he told him “you stopped the prosecution on the goal line.”

  28. Question:

    So while the jury is deliberating, does Jodi wait in the courthouse each day? Or do they just bring her from the jail to the courthouse once the jury renders the verdict?

    • Good question. I don’t honestly know how they do that in Maricopa County. With Sheriff Joe’s weird rules, who knows? Hopefully, someone will be able to answer.

      • I think she’ll be brought in everyday & wait in a holding cell until a verdict is reached or 4:30, whichever comes first.

        • Are you serious? What it it takes a month or more? So she will be fed as she was during trial? That’s awful.

  29. Looks like hln is trying to do some damage control with ng. trying to make her look compassionate with inmates. maybe hln is feeling the heat more than we think.

    • This may be terrible of me to say but I hope a riot breaks out while she’s in there and that barrette gets slung to high heaven. lol After all, they want a young woman who was abused, mistreated and attacked to be put to death for protecting herself.

      • Gwen,
        Can you believe that Graceless actually said that she was in court and Jodi didn’t even look at her????
        Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
        That’s why she got a seat, she thought Jodi would look at her???
        Really!!!!!
        Damn fools

        • That just proves how classy Jodi is. While in comparison, Nance is as graceless as they come!

        • And if Jodi had looked at her, even a glance, she would have had something to say about that. Like Jodi was staring her down or something. She is beyond ridiculous.

    • Perhaps she is going to the jail just to find out what she can….. about Jodi….what other reason could she possibly be going there f…….of course by turning on her phoney nice little voice that she uses, the hugs she gives to the inmates to make them think “Look I Care” just to get them to open up.

      She knows exactly what she is doing…….. and why she is going there. She will have her camera crew
      with her and she will definately exploit those inmates on her show …..
      She has already been there once……..so what is the purpose for her to go back? To suck people in to watch her show….or to flip Jodi the bird….on camera . Spiteful…you bet.

      • NG even lies during her ad about her show! Stating that what she wants is the truth! Yeah, Right!!! Well NG, JM, EF, WH, JDM, JVM, VP, HLN, and the rest of the Turd Alliance—–Hears the truth!!!!!! You’re ALL a bunch of fucking lowlife, slimy, garbage-spewing, shit-bags whose collective IQ is less than that of a snail’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, here’s more of the truth, you sick motherfuckers should all crawl back into the primordial ooze that spawned all of you and cease to exist!!!!!!! Thereby making this world a far better place to live in!!!!!!!!!!! (Sorry for my rant Will)

  31. Morning everyone! And good to see you AA! 😉

    Thought I’d share an article about Drew..maybe many of you have read it, but it lists a few of the celebrities that have died on his friggin show, including Mike Starr from Alice N Chains,who thankfully I got to see twice before that fraud of an MD got his hands on him!!! What a joke..the first paragraph says it all..quitting the show because too many patients have died on it!!! WAY TO GO HLN!! That just about sums up the type of “experts” you have on your show!!

    http://tv.yahoo.com/news/dr-drew-pulls-plug-celeb-rehab-calls-criticism-185301053.html

      • seriously Tony, what kind of crap is that!!!! How can they get away with passing those frauds off as professionals?????? I am pissed!!

          • There is that petition on the net, but I’m afraid to put my personal info down on it yet…I wasn’t sure who all can view that..I was thinking after trial I might go ahead and sign it!

            • I somehow doubt that will do any good. HLN is going to be going strong this summer with the Zimmerman trial.

              • true, but if enough of us at least sent a signal???? IDK, I’m just sick of what all has been going on..this trial has really shown that they are nothing but a “tabloid trash” network!!! At least a lot of us have cut them off, and I hope that counts for something!!

              • Lol they are already advertising for it! So, they will have about a month more on Jodi then Zimmerman.

            • Hey Lynn, Don’t be afraid, I signed it. Be proud to show them that you aren’t afraid of their sick and twisted minds!

    • Morning Lynn! Hahahaha soooo funny. Poor Dr. Drew. It was just too much for him. Awwwww

      • AA, he makes me sick!!!!! He friggin KILLS people!!! Reality TV BS! Good, I’m glad his ass will no longer be “helping” people in recovery..joke…And again good to see you AA!

        • I just want to defend Dr. D a tiny bit. I don’t agree with televising anyone that is in treatment but I’m sure his patients sign off on that so who am I to argue. All I really know about him is that he treated Mindy McCready and she lived in & took her life in my community. This is a very small community without media hiding behind every tree. We have one small weekly newspaper but they respected her privacy for the most part. Mindy had problems that required more than outpatient treatment. People in the community knew it, her landlord knew it, her friends knew it, her family knew it, her attorneys knew it and her doctors knew it. The problem was that no one could keep her in treatment without her consent and they tried many times to get her to enter treatment and she just refused. Many of us that met her shopping or at the courthouse and those that had become true friends with her here were devastated when she took her own life. She had become a part of this small community & we pride ourselves on reaching out but the person you’re reaching out to has to let you take their hand. Mindy said that Dr. D had recommended several continuing treatment options for her when she left his care. She, as an adult, chose not to pursue those. I don’t know the circumstances of anyone else that has been treated by Dr. D and whether they walked out the doors like Mindy did or whether they followed the treatment advise but I do know that know one was going to save Mindy because she didn’t want to be saved and didn’t want to stay in treatment long enough to get to the point of wanting to be saved. I think this speaks more to our mental health system rather than Dr. D in particular.

        • I always had a problem with celebrity rehab because in my opinion it exploits people’s suffering and Drew is an opportunistic money grabbing jerk for being a part of it. It’s hard enough to overcome an addiction without the whole world watching. What planet is he on to think that a show like this was a good idea? It was all about the money thats why! I have no respect for this quack, whatsoever!

  32. You have a great day Tony and everyone..I have a stomach ache now..I had no idea what happened to Mike until I read that article..so it’s a beautiful sunny day here in the Pacific NW, I’m going to sit out of the patio, have a chai latte’ and chill!
    Peace to all~

  33. Wonderful post today. Prayers and hugs to Jodi and her family. I thought of of something last nite. Was going over testimonies on youtube yesterday and a thought came to me. So need help and opinions.
    I would think that any exhibits entered in to the court, the jury would have access to. If so, here’s things i would like the jury to look at:
    1.Exhibit 4 & 5 are travis alexander/chughes/skyhughes letters. Written 1-21-2007 expert concluded highly probable travis wrote the letter. Look at you tube chughes testimony 14:40.
    2.Flores police report, roommates inconsistences, ashley reid thompson call to police to check out her ex dustin thompson. Ashley reid thompson supposed suicuide??????, gun shot to head. 2010
    Florez purjurying hisself on sequence of events and contaminated crime scene.
    3.Kevin horns autopsy report: “the dura mater and falx cerebri are intact”. Then claimed a typo. Lied.
    4. Remember Nurmi told jury to look at injury to chest. DOWN TO UP, DOWN TO UP. Frontal attack.
    What do you think?

    • Exhibits marked in court are not accessible to the jury unless the judge admitted them into evidence. Neither the Hughes emails to Travis, nor the letters Nurmi discussed with Chris on the stand were admitted into evidence. The hearing where Chris was on the stand was outside of the jury. None of the above exhibits will be available in the jury room.

      I would assume the police report was admitted into evidence but I would have to recheck that part of testimony to be sure. Ashleys suicide was never brought up during the trial, so that would not be evidence. I’m not sure whether the supplemental reports from the police report were in evidence or not. I recall the jurors asking about the roommates. Perhaps they are then?

      The autopsy report was admitted into evidence.

  34. Now Kirk Nurmi’s closing argument has sunk in, I think it will have impressed the jury greatly.

    He has not insulted them with a parade of lying witnesses, a confused, muddled, changing and illogical theory of the the crime that makes no sense. And finally, he pays them the compliment by saying that THEY are the fact finders, he does not even ask for the verdict he must in his heart desire.

    The jury will surely dismiss the most serious charges on the grounds of complete illogicality, and will finally be faced with the manslaughter charge. By this stage, they will know that Jodi has simply told the truth that she knows. That her story of appalling abuse by Travis Alexander is the truth. They will then have to determine if there is proof beyond all reasonable doubt that Jodi did not simply defend herself against repeated attacks from Travis Alexander. There is no such proof, and I hope that they will therefore take responsibility and find her not guilty.

  35. Happy Cinqo de Mayo family!!!!

    Good morning: AL, SJ, Tony, Gwen, Bystander, viri, Tonya, Jeff, BeeCee, Josh, Nk, sz, dell, Kalista, tonysam, marianne, Jennifer, zoe, richard, Joanna, Lynn, AA, spring, will, silent, CanadaLinda, and

    ANYONE else who posted after I posted this one!!!

    I adore all of you (((((((((((((((TEAM JODI FAMILY HUGS))))))))))))

    • Hello Janeen!!! Glad to see you too. I imagine you got your jackboots on and you’re ready for battle!!!!

      • Sure do my friend!!!!!!! I am humbled and quite honored that you included in me in your annointing LC, Maria, Renee and I the “Fearsome Foursome”….LMAOOOOOOOO

        I am absolutely humbled to have been included in such company. Thank you my friend!!!! 🙂

        • I do fear the four of you as well. I know damn well if I ever try to leave this webpage again the four of you would probably hunt me down, take me up to some remote place in the mountains and give me a sample of your own “enhanced interigation”!lol

            • Glad to see that no good bastard Dick Jefferson has not showed up here too! Oh I have thought of such a nice punishment for that lowlife too.:-)

            • Oh I know you’re very harmless. I just don’t want to piss you off. I think I said once on this site that you’re the WMD around here!LOL

          • Haaahaaaaa morning Janeen and Tony, you guys are so funny!!!! I love yall, I don’t know what ill do when this is all over! Im sure going to miss you! Im going to miss everyone! !! ♥

  36. Happy Sunday, everyone!

    Did anyone else notice that the courtroom was PACKED when KN gave his closing. Yet, when JM stepped back up, no one was in there?

    I think that is VERY telling.

    Also, HLN made it seem like there were “thousands” of people at the courthouse the other day. In reality, there were about 60 people that I could see.

    One more thing:

    When I was watching Nancy Grace babble on Friday, she was in her “studio” outside the courthouse.

    I kept seeing traffic coming around the corner (it’s a one-way street in front of the courthouse), and all I could think was….

    PLEASE, SOMEONE LOSE CONTROL OF THEIR CAR AND HIT NG! ROFLMAO!!

  37. Good morning everybody.

    I have a question. Does anybody know if Jodi is found guilty of M2 or manslaughter, who will decide how many years behind bars she gets…the jury or the judge?
    If it’s the judge ,we know she will probably get the maximum 🙁

  38. Hey finally someone on the NY Times mentioning Jodi today :
    ‘Sexism and the Single Murderess’, Frank Bruni, 5/5/13 Sunday Review, NY Times.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/opinion/sunday/bruni-sexismand-the-single-murderess.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

    “Knox and Arias aren’t just women accused of murder. They’re minxes accused of murder, sitting in their courtroom seats with scarlet letters emblazoned on their chests, no jury needed to pronounce them guilty of wantonness at the very least. For men, lust is a tripwire. For women, it’s a noose.”
    “a world in which there’s a cornucopia of synonyms for whore and slut and no comparably pejorative vocabulary for promiscuous or sexually rapacious men.”
    “Had a Southern governor named Marcia Sanford been entangled with a Latin lover when reputedly hiking the Appalachian Trail, would she today be her party’s nominee for an open Congressional seat?”
    “The Arias case hasn’t made quite the leap from the tabloids into the mainstream that Knox’s did. But HLN, the cable network on which Nancy Grace fulminates, has enjoyed a ratings bonanza with its saturation coverage of the courtroom proceedings.”

    • This is an op ed, not reporting, viewing it as a part of sexism, not mentioning domestic abuse at all.
      They had journalist coverage on the Steubenville case, (way early in the Sports section among all places,) on A Knox, C Anthony, bullying-suicides, woman eating fantasies of the stalking cop, but none assigned yet to cover Jodi Arias.
      They must think of it as a ‘tabloid’ case. Sad.

      • with the greatest respect to all here, especially to viri and JC – TEAM JODI ADMIN, and their comments above, i have a different take on, or general attitude to, the nyt, and the entire official media

        i almost never read anything from the mainstream media. i long ago decided that. i shouldn’t say never read; i’ll read the first sentence of an article, and decide on the basis of that. that’s my criteria, and if i exclude an article, i almost always exclude that entire media source from that first sentence assessment almost 100 % is rejected
        there’s a lot of crap out there
        especially mainstream, or establishment, crap, or their echo chambers, the official cool-aid is pervasive

        initially to find this reliable site i googled >>> jodi arias
        and whittled down 56 million results to just two using an exclusionary search method in google
        i excluded, lies, deceit, malice, sensationalism, etc

        as for the nyt, i haven’t looked at anything there for ten years at least, despite them buying placement
        in google news and other internet media sources
        the nyt is a far right wing propaganda outlet, or speaking tube, for the ruling class oligarchs; it’s establishment crap
        government propaganda outlets such as the nyt, i simply ignore

        i suppose as you’ve noted here they create some peripheral salacious material to lure people in

        whether, or not, the nyt considers jodi’s case “tabloid” is entirely irrelevant to me
        i don’t care a rats a$$ what some rag, such as the nyt, or any of their scribblers, thinks of this case

        their opinions are irrelevant for me; i’m totally uninterested in anything they have to say in their scribblings
        i form my own opinions, and locate reliable facts, from trustworthy sources, and the “media” including the nyt, is not in that league

        the spurious “prestige” attributed to the media, mostly self-referential narcissistic adulation, accelerating, with the advent of the internet, with increasing fervour from years ago, doesn’t count
        despite their pathetic praise of themselves, i remain completely unimpressed
        before the internet, these corporate outlets had captive audiences, as did all local media outlets in the us
        but that’s long gone
        the canard of the media as the bastion of freedom is a myth, a delusion long gone, if it ever existed
        the media is the bastion of the ruling class, of the elites, of privilege

        not so the internet
        that’s where the bastion of freedom resides

        JODI
        i get all i need to know from this site about jodi’s trial

        PS.1
        in the morning, instead of a blaring alarm to get me out of bed, i turn on the radio to one of the local stations
        as soon as i hear the first lie or deception, i hit the off switch on the radio, and get out of bed
        that little ritual pushes the start button on my brain
        generally, i’m up in less than two or three seconds, five at the most, as the bs runs so fast and continuously from their orifices

        PS.2
        TWO QUOTES ON COURAGE

        I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.
        Elie Wiesel

        “Wisdom, compassion, and courage are the three universally recognized moral qualities of men.” –
        Confucius

        • “the canard of the media as the bastion of freedom is a myth, a delusion long gone, if it ever existed”
          I agree, Wes. I don’t believe anything printed, posted or mouthed anywhere unless it can be checked or someone with integrity has checked it. There are still a few journalists in print though — less and less as TV, soundbites and internet rumors take over — who try to report the facts, interview people, check their sources, and try to do their job in a legible manner. But I take everything I read including the NY Times with initial skepticism. They are the ones who kept publishing on the front page all the ‘leaks’ about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq hence Iraq had to be invaded asap, while in page 15+ another journalist would debunk it all but would be ignored by most readers. I found this site by googling too to find out more information on the case, having been appalled by HLN and other posting sites.

          This was an opinion piece, not a reporting article; I like the points he made.

          • viri, so the straight scoop is on page “15” lol

            i was thinking i’m a cynic, then i researched it some more and realized i’m not a cynic but a skeptic

            http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/skepticism

            “Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth.”
            ― Albert Einstein

            “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”
            ― Carl Sagan

            “One good schoolmaster is of more use than a hundred priests.”
            ― Thomas Paine, The Age Of Reason

            “Most institutions demand unqualified faith; but the institution of science makes skepticism a virtue.”
            ― Robert K. Merton, Social Theory and Social Structure

            • lol, yes, page 15+, but only a few times, and may have lost his job by now. The other so-called ‘journalist’ with scoops from Dr. Strangelove’s office on weapons of mass destruction was on front page almost every day, along with pictures of aluminum rods…

              I managed to put on a comment about Jodi’s case on the Frank Bruni’s article today. Most comments were in agreement with his opinion, but readers know nothing at all about this case and think of it as a case where the woman is blamed for her open sexual behavior. Geez.

        • I don’t want to be or appear arrogant, and pour cold water on others internet material.
          Nowdays, the material available on the internet is so vast, it’s forced me to figure out a criteria to reject almost all of it

        • amendments

          i thought about some of my comments later, and realized what i said about my internet search methods are much more flexible than i described
          however, the gist of my approach to searching , as i’m sure it is with most other people, remains the same, to quickly find relevant material

          for example, on a new topic, i use tentative search words in the search engine, and progressively refine them as i look over the results

          i exclude articles simply by the extravagant or sensationalist headlines created by the headline writers to attract viewers
          on familiar topics, i’ve developed a history of reliable sources, which i’ve book marked
          firefox i’ve found very well designed and flexible with bookmarks
          others like chrome; i haven’t looked at it yet

          on my getting out of bed technique, by using the local radio stations as the initiator i’d add, it applies to talk radio, and everyone knows it’s mostly ego driven crap by the “host”
          so to use that as a spur to get out of bed, is somewhat of a rigged game because their rubbish is so predictable

          i suppose i should switch to music stations

          tha above comments are made while we wait for the jury’s return

          kirk and jennifer conducted a marvellous defense for jodi

          jm revealed himself as a dishonest and vindictive zealot; totally untrustworthy
          sensible people would see him for the scoundrel he was

          as for the judge
          we all know the problems

  40. does anyone have text alert I can sign up for for the verdict? I saw one on ABC I think it was but I think that might be for all ABC breaking news. I just want the text alert on the verdict.

  41. The messiness of the crime scene tells the real story. It is not the scene of a premeditated, heartless, and coldblooded massacre like the prosecutor wants everyone to believe. There was an intense struggle that occurred there. The scenario fits Jodi’s testimony much better than the inept interpretation by Martinez. I believe the photo of TA on the floor with Jodi’s leg near him is after he has been shot in the right temple and they have fallen to the floor. After this he makes his way to the sink and spits and coughs up blood all over the sink and onto the mirror. The bullet has penetrated his nasal cavity and filled his mouth with blood. Most of the blood from the entrance wound can be seen in this photo spilling down the right side of his neck and shoulder.

  42. I have a question regarding the stipulation photo, the one we refer to as the no gun, no knife, eyeball photo. Once it had been stipulated is it hands off what can be said about the photo? Just curious if Nurmi could have said something like at this time and point..no knife, no gun?

    • Goodmorning everyone! ! Yea I had thought about that too, Ann. It WOULD’VE been a good point to remind the jury, huh? Oh well, its over now, he still did a wonderful job!

    • Yes, because I think JM totally ignored that stipulation and gave the impression she had the gun and knife at that time.

  43. Good Morning! Thank God for this website. Sanity despite powerful media. I’ve only posted a couple of times, but have followed you brilliant people all the way.

    Al, your description today of Nurmi’s closing was so lucid. Nurmi made two crucial points in his closing that I hope the jury caught. 1. He said (paraphrase) ‘There is no testimony about the size of the gas tank’. Awhile back I sent JW this:

    ” http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110601151034AA6Vbom
    I have looked also at used Ford Focus websites showing 2007 gas tanks as 14 gallons, and 2008 as 13.5 gallons. Jodi Arias doesn’t need a third gas can to fit the gasoline she brought. The 2013 is now down to 12.4 gallon gas tank.”

    When JM hammered at the gas cans early on, it was to show that all the gas purchased couldn’t have fit in 1 gas tank and 2 gas cans. That’s when he made the famous statement, “Would it surprise you to know that the Ford Focus gas tank only holds 12.4 gallons?” That’s not testimony, but it’s the only size the jury had to hang onto.

    In closing JM changed his tune from ‘Doesn’t fit’ to “…so she could get an extra 450 miles”. Even when he was questioning Muscle Lady at the end, he didn’t bring her “3 gas purchases” to ‘It doesn’t fit so you must acquit!’

    2. Nurmi put up that OOPS evidence photo of Jodi’s sock and told them the evidence # (which I can’t remember- 169ish?), and that they would be able to have that to look at carefully because it isn’t what JM said it was. In the actual photo you can see that it is Travis’ shoulders and head off the floor and his right arm raised. It cannot be after the throat was slit!

    Those two things alone, if they follow Nurmi’s instructions, completely wipe out what JM spent so much time on to prove premeditation and what actually happened during the struggle. By the way, that evidence photo seems to show the missing hall rug at the bottom. The outline of the rug in blood is in one of the crime scene photos of the end of the hall next to the bedroom. That would mean Travis’ feet were toward the shower/bathroom, and he was in the process of getting up. The end of the hall stuff hadn’t happened yet.

    I have such faith that this jury will do a careful job, and if they do they will see what we all see. She had no choice. The guy was fury and she was fear, and he kept on fighting to the bitter end, so she had to, too. The good thing about any verdict is that JM, Horn, and DeMarte’s missing raw data that ended up in the prosecution’s hands have given ample room for appeal.

    Thank you, every one of you!

    • That’s excellent stuff, Nym! I was very confused about what JM was trying to say about the gas cans all along. Was he trying to say Jodi bought a knife? Was he trying to say she bought KY Jelly? I still am unclear.

      You just disproved whatever he was trying to say very easily.

      As for the photo which show’s Travis’s head off the floor (and that he couldn’t have had his throat slit at that point) I thought Wilmott handled it beautifully when she made Horne state it on the stand. Horne has been a great witness for the defense.

      • Truth be known, Jodi was trying to help Travis get up.

        The killing took a whole lot longer than 62 seconds.

  44. As a digression, I keep seeing mention of the Zimmerman case coming up. Leaving aside any and all social implications, that case raises a rather interesting legal dilemma created by the stand your ground law.

    Just so that we can get past all the racial overtones, etc, consider the following hypothetical, in which both parties are law abiding stalwart citizens of unimpeachable character and of the same race.

    One person is walking down a deserted street acting completely lawfully. The second person is driving down the same street looking for an address, but is lost, so he is driving really slowly. He sees the first person, stops his car and gets out. The first person has been watching this car nosing along the street and is getting worried. When the car stops and a guy gets out and approaches the first person, that person gets afraid and reacts in a “stand your ground” manner. Now the second person, who intended no harm, sees the first person’s actions and based on the “stand your ground” philosophy, and fearing for his well being, takes pre-emptive action. And now you have a tragedy.

    That is the dilemma the Zimmerman case brings to the forefront for me. I think, with little variations, that is what happened.

    It’s going to be interesting to see how this sorts itself out and what ramifications, if any, it has on the stand your ground philosophy.

    • If they both ‘stood their ground’ without moving and spoke politely to each other instead of flying off at each other throat there would be no tragedy.

      • go to gravatar.com – click on “add an image” and choose from your hard drive the photo you want…. 🙂

      • viri posted this a while back and I saved it. I just haven’t had the time to do mine.

        “To make a gravatar picture, go to gravatar.com – sign up as a new userid/password. It will ask you for an email address to assign a picture to. Use the email that you enter here when you post on this site. Gravatar.com will email you an authorization request. You will have to go to your email to authorize gravatar.com to associate your email address with your new gravatar userid. (Just open the one email from the gravatar site and click on the specified link to authorize.)
        Gravatar site will then ask you to specify which picture to upload to associate as a gravatar picture with your email address. Voila. Logout from gravatar.com. You’re done.”

        • Thanks. I think I did it. Not sure. It says it takes 5 to 10 minutes to activate.

  47. I can’t wait til this case is over. FB changes had changed the messages settings some time ago and now i have to block each person that messages me and calls me names all because I support Jodi. Its is sick how people do that. It used to be you could set it to friends only and now FB got rid of that and anyone can message but only friends go into inbox, even with “strict filtering”. I get sick reading the hateful messages in my “other box”

  48. I will certainly buy some T-shirts. I am, after all, a survivor of HLN, NG, Stephens and JM’s abuse.

  49. One thing to remember is that jurors love to play detective. Once they agree how absolutely ridiculous the State’s theory of premeditation is, they will want to solve the mystery of what really happened in that bathroom. They will carefully go through the crime scene photos (with magnifying glasses if they had them) and try to come up with their own theory or theories. And I expect one will be something like this: After getting shot and spitting blood into the sink while looking at the damage, he’s now really pissed so he chases after her, knocking her down (even though she’s found the knife to protect herself by then), getting on top of her and she goes berserk, slashing away to save her life. And I think the neck wound may have even come during that violent struggle, with Travis possibly running his own neck across the blade.

    • A unknown variable in the event is adrenaline. The body can and does do strange things when adrenaline is moving through it. Run faster, jump higher, etc. And since his body was in decomp, traces if left, was easy to miss. One shouldn’t assume it wasn’t there.

      • I believe it was adrenaline that gave her the strength to drag his body to the shower. I think she was actually trying to help him, perhaps thinking she could wash his wounds and apply first aid.

      • And JM’s argument that the shallow knife wounds to Travis were because Jodi’s cuts on her hand made it too painful to exert much force is a bunch of bullshit. When you got a lot of adrenaline pumping and in the heat of the moment you wouldn’t even have felt a thing! JM insults the jury’s intelligence on a lot of things.

    • It’s always been my belief that the blood on the carpet came from the chest wound, which happened when Travis lunged at Jodi, who was holding the knife up like a sword – that it was his weight, not her effort, that caused that first fatal wound. And then, yes, he’s on top of her and she goes berserk and their struggle moves back towards the bathroom.

    • Yes, you’re right. There are probably a few addicts to the ID channel, the CSI, 48-hours, FBI-labs, you-name-it, who will want to figure it out. They might even have heard of the Mormon blood atonement ritual. Or that he fell on it, like you say, or that she just wacked the knife toward his throat while he was still moving his arms to grab her.

    • Excellent RB! That all makes the most sense – except that if the knife was on the bathroom sink still, after cutting the rope, Travis may have grabbed it and run after Jodi initially. After that picture of him on his back getting up, she’s further up the hall toward the bedroom. If he tackled her at the end of the hall with her on her back and him lying on top of her, and she somehow had the knife in her left -more dominant hand- the back stab wounds would have made perfect sense to be desperate and shallow and coming from the right of his back, as several have already theorized here. All Jodi would need is one opportunity to get the knife between her and Travis and slit his throat just the way it’s been described -deeper on T’s left side and shallower on his right side. I’m an ‘ambidexter’, too. The hand you write most with is the hand you use for other tasks, with the exception of artwork possibly. Jodi definitely writes most with her left hand as she said.
      He had to have been shot first or he would have easily overwhelmed her little body. This is one big body-building guy!!!

      • Actually, Nym, I don’t think we don’t know where the knife was. Jodi couldn’t remember where it was left after the rope cutting. She believed it could have either been in the bathroom or on the nightstand in the bedroom. (Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.)

        • Hi RB! All we know is from Jodi’s testimony that she was holding one end of the rope near the bed and he was cutting it in the bathroom ‘to make sure it was just the right length’. Then she doesn’t remember if he put it on the nightstand or left it in the bathroom.

          BUT!
          Here’s something that’s has really puzzled me from the start: There’s a washing machine crime scene photo showing the left side of the washing machine contents. The middle spindle covers most of the right side of the picture. The left side of the shot looks like a pair of black pants with writing on them-really neatly lying in there. On the right side of the pants is a very clear red instrument that looks just like a Swiss Army Knife to me!

          Some of you who are more astute about both computers and Army knives could tell better. I haven’t had any luck even though I saved it and augmented it.

    • They shouldn’t do that. They have really nothing to go on.

      What they should do first thing tomorrow is meet in the deliberation room, take a vote, if there are any people who think Jodi Arias should be convicted of anything, those who think she should be acquitted need only show that the key prosecution witnesses committed perjury under the direction of prosecutor Juan Martinez, and then render a “not guilty” verdict.

      This wouldn’t actually be jury nullification like it was with O.J. Simpson (where there was an overwhelming amount of evidence of his guilt), though HLN and its ilk would call it that.

      After a not guilty verdict, the jury should give a press conference lambasting the prosecutor and the Maricopa Count officials for abusing the legal system in order to railroad a woman to death row in order to impress some kind of lynch mob. They should call for the firing and prosecution of Martinez, Horn, and Flores.

      I am not kidding. Why convict somebody wrongfully and let the appellate court do the same thing when you have the power to send a message to the media and to corrupt county officials that abuse of the legal system is not acceptable?

      • tonysam 🙄

        The haters will be turning green if that happens you said it all and that is what should be done they should do it just to find out the rest of the evidence that they left out and would not let them see that must of been evidence when their question were wrote done and then not used

        • This is what the jury SHOULD do, but who knows given the makeup.

          The case for an outright acquittal is so obvious that any conviction is questionable on its face, especially given all of the witness tampering on the prosecution side.

          • I agree. I think anything short of acquittal is highly suspect and ripe for appeal.

            • Although…I think if she gets manslaughter, she may just want to let the whole thing rest, do her time and be done with it.

      • Tonysam, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with them coming up with their own theory, based on the crime scene evidence. They don’t have to just go with the theory of either the prosecutor or the defense. They can use their common sense to come up with their own theory.

      • Very well said. That is exactly what I would do! When the Prosecution lies, all they say is out! Period.

      • Tonysam, I am thinking the same way. As a juror, with the weekend under my belt and the words of Nurmi ringing in my ear that either the ME or Flores has perjured himself, I cannot bear the weight of those instructions to any other conclusion. It is as though the four months have been trashed. In a huge sense it is also very sad, even coming from my standpoint as a Nonjuror. It seems as though there would be some validation in self defense though not guilty due to you self destructed because you bullied your witnesses into perjuring themselves has some merit too and of course she would be free; of course I get that! I hate typing on iPad. It makes me sound illiterate.

  50. from RealMormonTruth website :

    Truth is interesting in Mormonhood. When I was a child Mormon, we were taught how to lie about Mormons. Church officials would tell us people would ask us many questions, and our job was not to tell the truth, but we were given a line to tell people. I have forgotten about those days when we were brainwashed as children on how to talk about Mormons when people asked certain questions. I always said it feels like a lie, but I was told it was not a lie, that it was a way to protect me and my family. Oh yeah brainwashing trick number 142, the threat of you being held responsible not to spill the beans because your family would be at risk.

      • I wonder if Jodi is hiding the truth of what really happened. I just don’t believe she did all this, even in self defense. There is lot more to it, but i guess we will never know.

            • I also agree with you.
              Something just doesn’t sit right &
              I have always felt there’s more to
              the events that occured June 4th
              then we can ever imagine…..

        • Mariana, for a crime scene that was so gruesome and bloody, yet JA came out almost unscathed – yes, it makes one ponder – did she ‘really’ have any part in killing him.

          Remember that the car rental guy alluded to the presence of a guy being there with her. Perhaps, yes she decided to take JA up on his invitation and go visit him – but, not alone! When they get to the house, the guy waits downstairs, while JA goes upstairs to be with TA. Something goes wrong, TA begins to physically assault JA. TA is perhaps even unaware of the guys presence or is peeved that she even brought him along to his place. The other guy must have beenA’s ‘insurance’ against any sexual advances from TA. This was to have been a short visit. So, on hearing JA’s screams the other guy could’ve gone into the room – seen the knife on the night stand, grabbed it and did what he felt he had to do to save JA. This would address the odd bootprint in the blood at the pool of blood near the hallway. Whoever the other person was, was someone worth protecting for JA!

          • Hey Introspective…I thought this too. I mentioned it to JC a while back. I was thinking it was Jodi’s ex bf from back in the day.

    • yes and the Catholics would tell us your going to go to hell where the devil will get you but my religion never supported to killing they had had enough when they crucified Christ. Thou shall not kill and if more countries or country use this rule more than any other maybe we would be better people all over the world ….

        • Yes Tony…….I know the catholic were crazed at one time and we have our pedophile priest the church has shit to deal with in the past just was making a point on the one commandment that GOD gave us I’ve been excommunicated from the church but I still love GOD and the teaching of Christ and all I learned from my grandmother who was very religious.

  51. THIS IS FOR ALL OF YOU HERE AND MOSTLY FOR JODI

    Upright Three of Cups Tarot Card Meanings

    The Three of Cups is representative of friendships and collegiate, harmonious relationships. It is a time when you are open to helping others, which in turn means that others are open to helping you. It is about spending quality time with your loved ones and your friends.

    This card reminds me of the wonderful connection and friendship that exists between the four female characters in “Sex and the City” – Carrie, Charlotte, Samantha and Miranda. They stand by each other, through thick and thin, and they are always there for one another as they make their way through various relationships, careers and other life journeys. Nearly every episode, they can be found enjoying each other’s company, often over a Cosmopolitan or another fancy New York cocktail. You get the feeling that these girls will be friends forever and will know that they can always count on each other for support and compassion.

    You may find that by turning to your female friends, you receive the love, support and compassion you need right now. Your close circle of friends may be a mothers’ group, old school friends, a women’s networking group or a collection of friendships that you have built up over the years. There is a oneness shared between your close friends and you, and there is a general feeling of sensitivity and sympathy with one another.

    The Three of Cups heralds a very sociable period. You will find a harmonious balance between meeting your commitments and spending quality time with friends and family. This is a great time to let your hair down and indulge yourself a little! You may be particularly drawn to the bar or restaurant scene, indulging in great food, wine and cocktails! You may also be celebrating something special, such as a birth, engagement, wedding, re-union, or birthday.

    For the moment, even though life’s problems go on, you can take time out to forget about the hassles of the everyday world and enjoy the company of your friends and loved ones. Such respites are often needed before and after periods of high stress, to stop you from getting burned out emotionally or physically. When this card appears and you are experiencing a high level of stress, take some time off to recuperate, and gain the support of friends before returning to ‘reality’.

    More broadly, the Three of Cups indicates the end or conclusion of any problems you have been experiencing, particularly those that relate to your interactions with others. A compromise will be found which will serve all the interests of those involved and will allow for a more harmonious environment. You can facilitate this process by bringing about positive change within yourself and changing your attitude and the way you react or deal with what is happening. Treat the situation with compassion and give the benefit of the doubt where possible.

    The Three of Cups represents community and groups of people coming together to focus on a common goal for the greater good of others. You may find that by reaching out to others and banding together, you can achieve a huge amount in terms of sharing your positive energy and passion with others, benefiting the wider community. It is a sign that you should seek out other people to celebrate your successes along with you.

    The Three of Cups is also a very creative card, suggesting that you may pursue a creative outlet within a group environment, such as an art class or a dance class. This is a great way to connect with others and to access your creative abilities.

    • Thanks, Tonya. A very good card.
      I’ll go hug my loved ones and take them for a walk in the sunshine.

      • viri….. It’s a good day it is Sunday its nice out here and hopefully where you are HUGS to all and a walk in the sunshine music is need Al

    • The meaning of this card

      The Three of Cups is a card of celebration and accomplishment. Three young maidens dance in a circle with their golden goblets upraised in a toast of joy. Their arms reach out to each other and they connect through their emotions and their friendship with one another. The ground is covered with fruit and there is a general sense of abundance and happiness. Each woman in the Three of Cups has a wreath of laurel on her head. Wreaths of this type have long been a symbol of victory and success. A sweet smelling laurel wreath is also a symbol of protection, peace and purification and is a message that the favour of the Universe is upon us, and that we shall be the victor in this stage of our lives. At the women’s feet lie various flowers, symbolising joy, beauty, compassion and growth. The flowers remind us of the good times in life, the sweet smell of success, and the beauty that surrounds us if only we open up to its presence. to me this is about this site all of us here and Jodi’s innocents

    • I love Sex and the City and have been watching old episodes recently :). I like your observation about the women’s friendships.

  52. I’ve only posted a few times but I’ve been reading daily and I cannot tell you how very grateful I am that this website is here. It blows my mind how many haters Jodi has and I feel like I’m in the twilight zone when I see how almost everyone (other than the like minded people on this site) seems so convinced that Jodi is this evil scheming person when I see Jodi as someone who has been mistreated by Travis (an obviously dishonest slimy LIAR) and if she is guilty of anything it is of being too nice of a person.

    Thank God for this site, if it wasn’t for you all I would probably be wondering if there is something wrong with the way I see things.

    Im so nervous for the verdict, with almost everyone thinking the way they do about Jodi I just hope that the jury isn’t like the majority out there…

    I wish I had sent Jodi a postcard while I was sure she would get it in time to let her know she has people out here who are on her side and who care about her and want to see her walk out of there and begin living her life again…I don’t have much but I would let her know she never has to feel like she has nowhere to go because she is welcome to come stay with me if she needs somewhere where she will be left alone and she can regroup and decide where she wants to go from there

    I live in Washington state near Seattle and most people around here have no idea who she is (I find out because whenever anyone has come over lately and asks what Ive been up to, watching the trial and reading on this website is what Ive mainly been up to and come to find out nobody else I know has any idea this trial is even going on)

    I hope that Jodi has others out there like me who would open their home to her if she is acquitted and needs somewhere to go where she will be safe and can begin to put her life back together? That would be wonderful if she had her choice of many many different states and countries where she has people who care about her and want to help her that she could go if she chooses to?

    • CM 🙂

      I to found this site after the attacks on me for commenting that the commandment Thou shall Not KILL and found this site and have nerve returned to the other site we have lots of stuff here use the links above and on the side and the calendar and most of all the coming together here to support Jodi welcome CM stay we open our hearts to you for your kind words

    • She could come to me in London with pleasure, it would be an honour to have her stay with me and I would spoil her rotten!

      No one has heard of her here, it would be a very safe place for her. 🙂

    • I am very nervous too, CM, and most likely every one on this site as well.
      She could come to the hicks in New-York here too. Safe.

  53. What an inspiratonal and uplifting card Tonya!!!!!

    WOW!!!!

    Thank you to SJ and all the behind the scenes angels who keep this site active for our family here. Apparently, even the cards feel we CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

    We have been brought together, yes by a horrific tragedy, but the love, friendship, honesty, compassion and yes COMMON SENSE that we all possess and KNOW HOW TO USE, have banded us together as a family.

    I for one am touched beyond my ability to express by the friends I have made here. I will hold each and every one of you in my heart and I promise each of you if you ever need anything that I can help with even if it is just a (((((((((HUG)))))))))) – I’m there.

    We can and will make a diference for Jodi and for all survivors of heinous abuse and maltreatment.

    All my love to you all. 🙂

    • The deeper issue I have with this theory is why the prosecutor is allowed to do it?  He isn’t charging her with this crime, she has never been convicted of this crime, and there was no evidence presented supporting her guilt.  How is it that a prosecutor is allowed to claim an unproven, uncharged crime is proof of another alleged, charged crime?

      This is what got me too! How the HELL does he get away with it!

  55. I hope the jury gets it right, but there are some things that bother me and might throw the jury. the 3 different stories, I guess right after it happened, 911 should have been called. she might have been more credible with that and may have also been able to show her own wounds. recording the phone calls, that is a tough call. I know that I would not want to be recorded without my knowledge. they may see this as she could have messed with the recordings or something. I do not get this one for either side, if you are scared of someone, why go to their home , especially so far away / or let someone into your home when they arrive. they both could of and should have said “no”. I hope these don’t throw the jury.

    • Nobody ever knows what a jury is going to do. We’ll just have to wait and see. If we get a verdict on Monday it will either be not guilty or 1st murder.

      • Actually, I was thinking just the opposite. IF, and that’s a big if, the jury comes back with a verdict fairly quickly on Monday, I just can’t see it being M1 or acquittal. Based on the juror’s questions, there is at least one person it seems that is sympathetic to the defense. And that person isn’t going to switch to M1 that quickly. And I’m sure that anyone that has a pro pros bent isn’t going to concede too quickly to an acquittal either. It seems to me if there is a quick verdict on Monday it would be most likely manslaughter. That would make the most sense. Nurmi has given everyone a peg to hang their hat on. Anyone holding out for an acquittal knows that the defense would be OK with manslaughter. And anyone leaning for something more may feel that manslaughter may be justice enough. And if there is a quick verdict I would think that that signifies that the jury is ready to go home. Could be M2, too, I guess. But anyone that feels even a little bit sympathetic to the defense’s case isn’t going to want to rush to quickly to an M2 verdict either. Anyway, it’s just all speculation. I’m hoping for acquittal!

        • Jodi didn’t mess with the recordings. Like someone said in a prior post, unless she’s a very talented ventriloquist, she didn’t get Travis to talk about 12 year olds having an orgasm. That was all him.

    • Because she wasn’t scared of him all the time, just when he lost his temper. He’d always apologize and be sweet afterward.

      The better questions is (for Travis’s “friends,” and I use that term loosely considering they took 5 days to figure out he was dead and apparently some of them stayed to finish their Cancun trip even after they heard the news) …. Why are they shouting about Jodi being a stalker and Travis being afraid of her if Travis continued to sleep with her? You don’t sleep with people you fear

      • Tell it Nk my ex was nice and then slap hit punch then nice slap hit punch if a voice in my had had not told me to drop the knife I would be were she is now jail to many question to many secrets lies I have lots of questions what really happened and have figured out some of them . questions Ashley Thompson reed Dustin her husband Chris and sky Hughes PPL Mormons ???? ❓

    • Sam Walker it is not up to you to guess what happened or why she did or why she did not its up to the jury now and this site is for Jodi to get a fair trial

      • yeah, I know and I hope for that too. you need to chill out. I am just saying if these items stick out to someone for Jodi, how do you think they look to other people? it is just an observation.

        • Sam,

          Thank GOD Jodi did record that conversation – it is the MOST compelling PROOF she has that he was a twisted individual!

          The fact that she went there – she DID NOT GO THERE TO HURT HIM – She went there BECAUSE SHE LOVED HIM. He opened his door to her because he was a bastard who wouldn’t pass up being able to “cork” her. (I’m sorry for that reference my friends…)

          She went there with the intention of spending time with the man she loved (unfortunately the heart wants what it wants – our brains do not always have the upper hand).

          As far as calling 911….she doesn’t remember anything up to being in the desert. How would you suggest she have called 911 in a “flight or fight” adrenaline laced RUN FOR HER LIFE????

          These are just my observations.

            • I agree. Even though it was self defense, taking the life of another human being is not something anyone will just come to terms with. It’s life changing. Esp. since Travis was someone she knew and loved, still loves.

              Now this trial. Everything being played back over and over. The entire world knowing all about it. :/ 🙁

              It would def. change her. A part of her probably did die with Travis.

          • lets not forget he wanted to pork her the moment she showed up but she said no im so tired Ive have been on the road I’m tired

        • Sam was not meant as a slap or to hurt you sorry I stepped on you forgive me just defending Jodi

          • There was nothing wrong with what you said, Tonya. I wouldn’t apologize. I smell a rat in sam.

                • Happy Sunday to you all. I am sick of fence-sitters and shit-stirrers. I am suspicious of most people these days leading up to Jodi’s acquittal.

                  Man, Tony, you have me made out to be some kind of scary psycho. I am not a drill instructor, nor am I a WMD. I am a woman sick and fucking tired of bull shit.

                  So I say it how I see it.

                  I am a very small girl, and I am not a loud and violent person. I do, however, believe that going round and round with bull shit leaves you with more bullshit.

                  And I am too fucking old to beat around the bush.

                  Off to grill with the hubby– Have a wonderful Sunday, friends.

                  😎

                • Renee’, I think you know that I don’t mean any of that maliciously dear lady!:-)

                • Renee I hear you. My patience for bullshit has been getting thinner and thinner to the point it’s translucent. Especially with moles on the blog outright telling people that there’s going to be mass-harassment come verdict day by haters.

                  IMO if they ever gave a shit about this blog, they need to say something to SJ or JC NOW so they can weed out the harassers before they have a chance to do any damage. If they ever gave a shit about freedom of speech, freedom of thought, the right to self expression, THEY WOULD STAND UP AND SAY SOMETHING WHILE THEY HAVE THE CHANCE.

                  Because if they say something after the fact, and didn’t lift a finger to help, IMO they should be banned. Like SJ said, we have no time for fence sitters or fair weather fucks.

                  ((((((((((Renee))))))))))))

              • Thank you, MB. You always seem to “get me” exactly. I too, am exhausted beyond belief. I have no more patience, tolerance, or niceness left in me.

                I am spent.

                You nailed it on the head; fair weather fucks I just don’t have time for. No more arguing to them. If they don’t like me, or don’t like what I say–then, just move the fuck on to the next post.

                Later, all. 😎

                • Renee, Hope you had a great afternoon and got some rest.

                  I love your kick ass sassy style. You have a great eye for the BS’er’s. Keep it up!

                  (((((R)))))

            • I am for Jodi, but you guys turn on your own supporters for even asking questions. That does not make any sense. What do you smell like Renee? Are we not allowed to speak up or speak out?

              • Sam,

                No one “turned on” you. YOU interpreted tonya’s response to your post in a negative way. If you have read tonya’s postings, you would understand she does not attack other supporters on this site.

                YOU need to not be overly sensitive if you post something that we are going to comment on.

                And…Renee is a friend of mine – please do not attack her.

                • Sam, the women here at this site are VERY supportive of Jodi. Many of these ladies have been in abusive relationships too. Let me say that women pretty much rule this webpage so weigh your words carefully. Renee’ is a friend of mine too!

                • I am not attacking her or anyone, just trying to be impartial to other posts/ people. As far as being overly sensitive, well, she did call me a rat . I do not call people names, if you read my postings.

                • uh oh…did I miss something here? I know Sam’s cool and so is Renee along with all of us girls on this site 🙂

        • Of course, the questions will/may come up with other people. We were just providing you with some possible answers to your observations. Tonya is very passionate about this case. We all are. It’s been a harrowing couple of months, and now deliberations.

          Personally, to me, the question should be, if Jodi was really stalking Travis like his friends are claiming, then why did he continue to sleep with her? You just don’t do that. There is no “men will be men” excuse here! If you are afraid of someone, you don’t sleep with them. You lock your doors. You file a restraining order. You don’t shower them with compliments. You don’t risk aggravating them with awful comments (ex. whore, three whole wonder). You simply stop contacting them.

          Jodi explained why she was not in constant fear of Travis. She loved him. She wanted to see the best in him. He was not always abusive. Whenever he was abusive, he apologized and was sweet, then would compliment her. This was evident, not just by her words, but in emails and texts that Willmott and ALV went over extensively!

        • it goes back to the same old question, “why abuse victims do not leave” which has been answered many times over and over again. I suggest you watch Alyce LaViolette’s testimony, she explains it very well.
          Not calling 911 is not that much of a stretch to figure out why she didn’t, she just killed someone, whether or not its justified, she was in a state of shock, fear, and running on fight or flight. And now you see how the police treat her, do you blame her…Det. Flores, who was the lead detective is sitting day in and day out at the prosecutions table. That’s certainly shows a conflict of interest on his and the departments part. Its not their job to convict someone, but it is their job to find out the facts and testify to such, which he didn’t do either. {caught lying on the stand about the ME report} Daily you see him whispering in JM’s ear, like he’s an assistant DA or something. Again, not his job. Ignoring evidence, like the rope on the steps, that’s damaging evidence to the state, so they ignore it. Again, are they seeking justice or just seeking to convict someone to further their careers.
          And lastly, recording their sex talk is no different than taking sexual pictures, which they did on many occasions, under direction of Mr. TA himself. Its highly unlikely he didn’t know he was participating in a recorded sex tape. highly unlikely…and thank god she did it otherwise we would never have known how sick this man really was would we…

          • Exactly! Had it not been for that recording, no one would have believed that coming from Jodi about the “amazing” St. Travis. And now they try to chalk it up as to being “normal” fantasy. Nothing normal about it! Sick. Very, very sick.

    • In a perfect world, that is what the brain would think but it doesn’t happen that way. I know people who have hit deer and freak out so bad they kept driving till reality hit and they are miles away. In moments is shock, logic can go away…

    • I kept going back to my abuser, I was only scared of him when he was being mean, I know its hard to understand when you have not been through this. When he was not mad he was amazing and loving and kind and outgoing and charming and the best lover so I would always go back because all of this outweighed the bad and leading up to the bad he had made me believe I was not worthy of being with anyone else anyhow so I would crave the good attention and conviently forget the bad, I thought he would eventually change and not ever be mean, so I went through all of this for eleven years. He even moved all the way to Hawaii! I could have been far far away from him but where did I move? Hawaii, I got away from him again while there, after I had my child, I moved to my friends in Long Beach, I got away again but then he moved to my parents house in St George, my freakin parents house, the dam charmer charmed the pants off of my family and they said, oh he is such a nice guy, do the right thing and come here with your child and we will all help you out, they of course, did not know the abuse, you dont tell anyone this, you just dont, just like Jodi, you think you can make them better or if you do every sex thing they want, please them in every way, they will eventually change and always be that nice guy, so again I went back to him, it just got worse so I tried to get away again and anyhow, enough of me, I eventually did, I just wish Jodi had before all of this

      • kmea,

        You just described an abuser to the T.
        They say FIRST is charm, just like your husband and then he charms everyone else,
        like Travis did and has and in death sill is.
        He’s the charmed one!

        Jodi the abused loved him and thought she could help him.
        She ended up having to fight for her life.

        She never said she was frightened of Travis.
        Travis is the one that told all of his friends he was frightened of Jodi,
        another part of abuse.
        And NOW Jodi is STILL having to fight for her life.
        People like Travis make me sick!

        NOT FAIR!

  56. OMG, it’d be so awesome if someone stomped the shit out of NG in jail!!

    .
    Sorry, disregard all of the above. It was a typo. =)

    • Actually I won’t disregard that!!!! LMAOOOOOOO

      SHE NEEDS A BEATING IN THE WORSE WAY SIL……!!!!!!!!!!

      LOL LOL

      I’m with you!!!

        • Either sex Tony….

          The people she has slandered, defamed and disparaged publicly should all be allowed 10 minutes with her in a private room.

          • Janeen, that’s where I would have to respectfully part ways with you. I NEVER would want to see a woman beaten by a man! Sorry my lady, but its just the way I am.

            • Respectfully parted my friend…(although nasty face is no “lady”. She is so hate filled and so sharp tongued that sometimes you do forget her gender and just want to go ballistic….)

                • PLEASE stop saying you’re sorry…….we wouldn’t like you any other way….! 🙂

                • As the lyrics to the song Let Me Be by The Turtles goes, “I am what I am and that’s all I ever can be…..”lol

        • I just hope Nasty Nancy Grace Shit head full of vomit for words is not there to stir up shit and get them to hate Jodi I fear for her if the bitch does go to the jail watch you back Jodi if you have to say in your room be careful

          • That’s what came to my mind, Tonya. She thinks Jodi will be in jail and might have plans to go persecute her there.
            Dreadful thought.

      • lol! You guys are too funny.

        This woman has ruined so many people, I can’t even believe why she still has a show. Same goes for Dr. Drew. Whatever the hell happened to him? He’s just as catty as the women who hate Jodi.

        • Sil, not only that she has a show, but now she has another one called “Nancy Grace mysteries”. Now she wants to be a detective. And it’s all about Jodi. Gosh…I hate that bitch !!!!

          • Mariana, I saw that too!

            She’s a fucking hack! I love watching shows like “Unsolved Mysteries”, “Cold Case Files”, “FBI Files”, etc. and when I saw the promo for he show, I was curious so I watched one of them…OMG, what she has done is she has taken all the cases that have been covered by all these shows and pretends she investigated them herself…LOL!! she just pretty much puts herself in the spot light and talks about these cases as if she has firsthand knowledge about what happened.

            OMFG! It’d ridiculous!! And then…she has the other HLN talking heads as guests and pretty much they all just go around talking on and on and on about whatever case as if they were witnesses to what happened.

            It’s so pathetic. And then she has the gall to say in her promo…”I – want – to – inves-ti-gate – the case” “I – want – to – get – the truth” “If there is one thing I love about what I do, is that *I* get to make a difference”.

            OMG, kill me now!!

            • Gag me, I hate the commercial. She plays it with her voice like she’s about to cry. Makes me wanna cry just listening to that witch!

              • And the way she keeps milking that fiance story is getting so very old.

                I suggest she find a new line of work and get out of sticking her nose into homicide stories. Put that piece of her history where it belongs – far back into her past and move on. Doesn’t mean she has to forget. Just quit exploiting it all these years later.

                • Yes, Bev, it’s sickening.

                  And yes, Rainy, she’s the master of manipulation. She’ll use everyone and everything possible to boost her ego.

                  YUCK!

  57. Question: ?????
    I posted this in an answer to RB in AZ earlier today, but thought I would throw it out to the whole group because you guys are so smart.

    Here’s something that’s has really puzzled me from the start: There’s a washing machine crime scene photo showing the left side of the washing machine contents. The middle spindle covers most of the right side of the picture. The left side of the shot looks like a pair of black pants with writing on them-really neatly lying in there. On the right side of the pants is a very clear red instrument that looks just like a Swiss Army Knife to me!

    Some of you who are more astute about both computers and Army knives could tell better. I haven’t had any luck even though I saved it and augmented it.

  58. Did anyone else notice that KN greeted the jury when he gave his closing arguments and the little turd-factory that can’t—i.e. JM—got up and started his rant without so much as a hi or hello? I think this, too, may also make the jury be more for the defense—especially now—since N made them feel important (which they are) and Tiny Tim made them, IMO, feel as if they are just no-brained drones who must follow his lead!

  59. Hello Fellow Supporters!

    I just wanted get clarification about something. I know the responding officer from the burglary at Jodi’s grandparents, but was the police report entered into evidence?
    I think (as well as many here have discussed) that the stolen gun in that burglary will play a big part in the jury’s decision. The police report (if in evidence) I believe states that the grandfather said the gun was loaded with hollow point bullets. Even Lying Horne had to agree there were no fragments which is inarguable evidence that TA was not shot with a hollow point.
    If the jury is even coherent they will find Jodi NOT GUILTY.
    I think manslaughter is most plausible, but I do not believe an acquittal is impossible.
    I can hardly stand this wait. I just keep imagining Jodi in her cell, and how much this wait must be SO hard for her. I hate to complain about how hard it is for me, but I just can’t stand this WAIT!!

    • ((((((((((((Kmiller))))))))))))) We’re all the in the same boat…..waiting is hard…..

      You are NOT ALONE FRIEND!!!!!!! We are here with you!!!!!! 🙂

      • Casey Anthony she killed 1st deg murder and was charged with lying HOPE the same here for JODI she is charged with Stealing the Gun

      • AWWWW (((((((((HUGS))))))))))) to you too Janeen and Tonya!

        Tonya, your card did bring a smile 🙂

        I hope Nasty Disgrace gets all her fuckin fronts busted out by a prisoner, that’s the only way I will watch any of her bullshit shows. She’s only doing it to make it seem as though she is capable of compassion. Give me a fkn break!
        She is probably there to try and get one of the poor unsuspecting inmates to incriminate themselves in a moment of weakness, then she will be in the studio calling for their DEATH!

    • +Kmiller,
      Hmm, I don’t know if that report (re:grandfather’s gun theft police report) was entered into evidence…I would like to know that myself…
      Anyone know if it WAS?

        • Meowington, So you don’t think it was admitted? … I do not recall it being admitted either, and I do not recall ballistics testifying to the type of bullet that was recovered either… I keep wondering if I missed something.

          • Hi Dorothy….I always feel like I’m missing something too, but I don’t think that was entered into evidence unless I’m wrong…someone please correct me.

  60. I wonder if we can all appreciate how much Dr. Geffner did for annihilating the prosecution’s case and setting Jodi on a very potential path for early freedom.

    He single handedly cremated the one–year–experience amateur witness Martinez tried to pawn off as a psychology expert and held her tests up to ridicule for the jury. This is a guy who trains judges in understanding of psychiatry and psychology so they have the ability to be knowledgeable in their court cases so to put their credentials side by side is like putting a Bentley next to a Yugo. And Nurmi weaved that Demarte demolition they witnessed as jurors into his closing argument subtly and cleverly reminding them how pathetic and bought-and-paid for Demarte was.

    Then by Dr. Geffner’s equally prolific knowledge of the brain pointing out to Jennifer that the frontal lobe could not have been penetrated without the bullet passing through the dura mater was CATACLYSMIC. This ME cretin was smug and thought he’d covered enough of his bases to have followed Martinez instructions to Armour-all his report to hold up under Public Defender level attorney’s scrutiny and never be found out that it had been fixed and totally manipulated to fit the theory they had to claim–that the shot wasn’t first. But along comes the career ruining slip–up.

    Jennifer didn’t decimate the ME with that devastating fact on her first cross examination so I believe it had to be Dr. Geffner that pointed it out to her. What a bombshell that was! And how ironic, it was the self absorbed, erudite, water–drinking evidence pimp for Martinez that opened the door for Dr. Geffner to be called. Talk about your karma of what goes around, comes around.

    Can you imagine if she could have had a defense team of oh say, Vincent Bugliosi as lead attorney and forensic experts like Dr. Henry Lee to and Barry Scheck to obliterate Horn toad and Fluoride? It would have been like what Custer saw at Little Bighorn. It cannot be underestimated how much knowledge Jennifer had to have to put forth the questions to Alyce LaViolette and Dr. Geffner so they could inform the jury about all the intrinsics of those reports and their respective brain banks of knowledge. She had to know almost as much as they knew in many respects to lead them through the questioning. And Nurmi’s summation in closing was masterful breaking down each point of pre–planning to absudity and not opening any door to let Martinez talk about what he was salivating to use in his wrap–up.

    All in all, I think the fact that Matt McCartney turned out to be a big bluff by Martinez is going to huge in that deliberation room. This is the one man who could have testified that Jodi’s claim of being choked unconscious was made up because he was the one who she said saw the choke marks on her neck. The fact that he wasn’t called speaks volumes. That lays the predicate to her in fact BEING choked and underlies the fear she would have experienced that day after being thrown to the tile in his rage.

    There is no doubt in my mind, Martinez never expected this kind of battering from this defense team.

    KUDOS TO THEM !!

    • JM rarely mades sense in his ramblings. I think he uses the yelling and pacing antics to throw attention away from what he is actually screaming since most of it makes no sense. Even he did not know what he said most of the time.

      • LOL… that is the most convincing part of jms rant . . he got lost in his own hype. Most bullys are like that: bolter, intimidate and inflict fear. Wise people can crush and the battering gains concept, but the defense team didn’t crush . . they stayed focused and re developed concept. Sticking to the truth or as close to it without fabrication will win over bs any day. when being judged. I’ve had people say they did not really like me but could count on the fact what I said was reliable, honest, had integrity and trustworthy if needed but to not approach me asking for me to twist a situation in their favor. Being a Teamster Steward was a good teaching platform and I’ve even told the BA either stick to the contract (which had convenient holes) or shut up during litigation, I’ll handle it.. Either way my case wins because i will prove someone is in violation, so unless the ba wants the union proven in violation of the contract, best to defend my lead which will be truth. Some situtions I would turn over to another steward because i could not help the member honestly and that was difficult because I might like the person, friends . . but they goofed. LOL I did tell them what NOT to say the same as on the message board here, leaving Jodi a message she’s done enough, maybe too much, stop volunteering information not asked for. And as we all can see, because the people on this site have made astounding revelations and superb investigation, some questions were not asked. It would be an experienced guess, this jury has people who have dealt with things in life, they will learn from each other in deliberation, the hard headed ones are just pffft hardheaded, .. Jodis going to walk . . we just don’t know when.

    • Jade I agree with you completely. I said this as soon as his testimony was done. Geffner was absolutely the best, and most important witness in this case. Other than the points you made above there was one other thing that happened during Geffner’s testimony.

      JM has a nasty habit of disarming adverse testimony by either cutting the witness off or presenting selected evidence, that is put out of context or is otherwise misleading and forcing an answer. Unfortunately, the defense team was rather amiss in not being able to always repair that damage. What Geffner did was actually expound on the defense questions during the redirect and actually point this out in a number of cases. That then led to further probing and laid this out clearly in front of the jury.

      Of course JM’s selection of Janneen DeMarte should also make the jury ask why? Why is it that in a metropolitan area of over 4 million people, and in a capital case to boot, the state had to rely on a rank novice for their case? Was it because no experienced psychologist or psychiatrist was willing to counter the testimony of either Samuels or ALV, or the diagnosis was made by Dr Karp?

      Court watchers and lawyers will tell you that sometimes what is and isn’t delivered has a great impact on the veracity of a lawyer and his case. As you rightly point Martinez’s question about Matt McCartney falls into that category, just as does his use of DeMarte.

      Hopefully some of this stuff gets through to the jury.

      One other thing that struck me, both during the presentation of the evidence as well as the closing was JM’s reliance on possibilities, without proof. He often relies on putting up some point and asking the jury whether or not this was possible. He actually went as far as to say that he couldn’t tell what happened in the bathroom, but it was possible…….. Now this is an OK argument for the defense, because a viable possibility for their argument, shows reasonable doubt for the prosecutions case. But for the state to do that automatically raises reasonable doubt. A crowning point of this came every time JM had to argue that “it would not be a stretch”, because then he is asking the jury to make a speculative leap from point A to point B. By its very definition, speculation means that there is a possibility that the exact opposite is what happened. And when you have that you have reasonable doubt.

      • True my friend. And Dr. Geffner didn’t mince words either when he ripped Demarte–saying literally she didn’t understand what she was doing and that there were no excuses for things she didn’t do such as get the latest tests.

        Another thing that had to infuriate Martinez was how polite he was when he was being crossed, even when he was confronted about the judges throwing out his testimony. Martinez wanted him to be angry so it would fit right into his rabid foaming-at-the-mouth monkey pacing demeanor he had used with all the other witnesses. But Dr. Geffner was cool. He knew Jennifer would let him show how moronic Martinez was to suggest he was a discredited witness or that he was in fact, not only relied on in some 300 cases, but was the pinnacle of of the elite in his profession. And testifying without pay by the hour like Demarte milked the state of Arizona for. He is one sharp cookie.

        Plus that mind numbing catch that he saw in the medical report they would have literally gotten away with had he not been brought into the case. That was the underpinning those prosecution death merchants were banking entirely for the shot. Without the frontal lobe crapola, it’s bye-bye to any hope they had that the jury would buy incapacitation after the shot.

        And it came right at the end where it HAS to have had TITANIC impact to that jury.

        The highest possible accolades to that man and his sole interest in unselfishly only wanting to see that justice is not another casualty for Jodi like the set-up Milke’s was.

        I’ll betcha Geffner is one name Horn and Martinez will never forget. I hope it ends both their careers.

        • Great posts as ALWAYS, Jade! Love how Doc. G exposed Nostrils for the incompetent snot nosed bitch she is! Then JM had the verve to bring in Southern non-responsive speech delay heffer. Her excuse for Nostril’s giving an outdated test was the $200 expense! Other than that I can’t recall much of what she said, I can only remember wanting to shake the shit outta her while yelling, “OMG!! SPIT IT OUT!!!”

    • Jade,
      KUDOS TO THEM ALL! Indeed *\ 😆 /* They should be applauded. They had MANY hurdles to jump and not once did they fall. I am impressed with EVERYONE.

      • Martinez is a great example of the saying “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”

      • I think that might have been overlooked by a lot of people. I marveled at how much Jennifer had to know.

        She had to know all the technicalities, the names and terms of the different tests, the intricate studies and knowledge of subject matter in the backgrounds of ALV, Samuels and Dr. Geffner. Without her asking them the question, they couldn’t have told the jury all the things that she led them through like a General Patton. And the questions couldn’t be leading, in addition to what was already amazing understanding of what each one knew. Martinez was just waiting to object.

        Plus another thing that I don’t think can be understated is how incredibly well they preserved a record for appeal IF it comes to that. Those objections and motions all went into the record. One can only imagine what they made record of in the in camera sessions or sidebars.

        This judge is so up to her neck in reversible error, that the best thing she could hope for is a verdict that won’t be appealed. Some in isolation, were mind boggling rulings. Taking them all into account in cumulative bungles, it is probably only going to be most difficult to pick out which ones were the most egregious to file the petitions.

        Fortunately for her, I believe her ass will be spared the embarrassment when the verdict is read and Martinez becomes a laughing stock to the world.

    • The National Judicial College is located in Reno, which is where I lived for many years. It’s located on the University of Nevada, Reno, campus. Geffner taught classes there.

      Some truly major figures in the area of law have attended classes there, but the college keeps that under wraps.

    • The ME’s final lie was the coup de grace of this case. My jaw just dropped to the floor when I heard him pull that shit.

      You can view that lowlight on this site on Day 54, Part 6, 22:12 into it. It is just unbelievable in its audacity.

      He and Martinez thought the jury was stupid and they wouldn’t notice.

      For cryin’ out loud, that autopsy report is almost five YEARS old. If there had been errors, it would have been corrected a long, long time ago. Horn had lots and lots of chances to correct it, but Martinez told him right before he was to get up there to lie about the brain injury, if necessary. He probably called him as soon as he knew Geffner would be on the stand and talk about the brain.

      If the jury comes up with anything other than acquittal, they are not doing their job and have been watching HLN.

      When the central witness for the prosecution can’t be trusted, you HAVE to throw the prosecution’s entire case out. You can’t look at the autopsy pictures and think, oh that throat is so bad, we must convict Jodi. Those pictures mean nothing without the autopsy report to help interpret them. And the author of that report is corrupt and discredited.

      • Of course I mean the brain injury according to the prosecution’s theory, not to whether it was ever injured at all.

        • I cannot believe it. This idiot will NEVER live this lie down for the rest of his life. Millions of people around the world SAW that crap.

          • I think that might depend on the verdict… just not sure how.

            But it wouldn’t surprise me if everyone just looks the other way.

            Just like they basically looked the other way when Tanisha committed the felony of witness tampering.

      • The worst thing about the lie was it was a response to a JUROR question.

        Horn thought the jurors were idiots and he could pull that shit on them.

        • Lol! TonySam! Then my FAVORITE part of the entire trial occurred as Jen Stomped furiously toward him, ” Are you AWARE of the SERIOUSNESS of this CASE??”
          Dirty Sanchez objected a couple of times, but that only meant she got to say it 3 times 3 different ways! What a KNOB SLOB, that Horne!
          You are so right, Why in the HELL are Horne and Flores not in JAIL???

        • Then gave them that sheepish grin when he said he’d never examined a living person who’d been shot in the head.

      • I don’t believe that was a typo. The autopsy was correct all along, it’s just bullshittery on the part of the prosecution to cover up the truth.

  61. Although I agree with my fellow family members and their impressive and remarkable intelligence and insight, I am a bit scared after having had a precedent setting case here in New York with the “cannibal cop” having been convicted of CONSPIRACY TO KIDNAP – when the man NEVER touched anyone. He was convicted because he WANTED to do what he wanted to do…and of course because of his using the police software to “find out information” about the women he “thought about”.

    As Tony said….no one can predict what any jury will process and ultimately decide. Whatever will be, will be unfortunately. If the family here had our way – Jodi would NOT have EVER spent ONE MINUTE behind bars…let alone 5.5 years thus far.

    • Wow . . having law enforcement background what I see here is another thing . . spin on we have to do something with him . . he broke into and used police department communications software .. showing they aren’t secured . . so we’ll tag him with some kind of charge. The attorney might have been like jm influencing the jury with a hannibal theory which creates fear and that’s pretty shivering thought. Hmmm cannot believe the cop didn’t use a bogus dsn when obtaining information. As far as Jodis family . . I have no comment, but as you say “our way” .. that has heart felt support

    • I hope and pray that the jury was just as flabbergasted as we were with JM’s closing.

      I mean, this bullshit about ..”it could have been this…or it could have been that” “she could have brought the knife, or she could have been a fairy…” “She could have traveled in time or she could have been lying in wait inside the dishwasher”…Wtf kind of argument is that? It would not be stretch to say…This man completely lost his sanity.

      lol

      • Agreed Sil!!!

        TOOOOOO BAD the jury doesn’t know that that BLITHERING ASSHOLE said it looked like a “dog” to him in Travis’ eye taking a picture!!!!!!!

        That just about solidified his loss on reality….in my opinion……. LOL LOL LOL

      • And his next case is about a cop killing a person and their dog .. jm will twist that into the dog possibly being another person or a kid or a bunny/wildabeast/goper . . trying to find a soft spot in the jury whereas he has none at all . he’s just weird lol

      • Janeen, …I know! Right? His “closing arguments were SO …OUT THERE in nowhere land. He was NOT focused, he was NOT logical…I zoned out after I realized he was all over the place, like a poorly written novel.

      • I know Sil, it was just brilliant, I laughed and laughed, he didn’t have a clue whether he was coming or going! Oh and when he accused Jodi of loving the limelight, well, I laughed so long and hard, I’m still laughing. Of course JM hated the limelight, signing autographs.. BS Plain BS!!

        I just hope the jury managed to get that! 😀

        And THEN he accused her of.. lying on OATH?? ‘Scuse ME?

        Ahem.. JM..!!

      • JM’s closing reminded me of Ashton’s in the CA case. i.e., If you don’t like any of the scenarios I gave you, then just make up your own. Just as long as yours means guilty.

    • I think the conspiracy to kidnap charge was justified in that case. The cop was a sick fuck and all of his plans were documented.

  62. So I’m watching day 55 closing arguments…why are Travis people wearing blue ribbons. What does that mean?

  63. OMG I could eat guacamole for breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks in between!!!!!!!

    Hmmmm, hmmmmmmm good!!!!

    • Mexican food rules the country and Mexicans will again rule the southwest!:-)lol

      • Mid west Mex is pretty darn good .. actually better than TexMex . . had the pleasure of West-Mex and well we’ll pass on East-Mex . . have some friends that are authentic and I did kinda have to pass on bouncing the beef tongue til tender enough to peel so put it out of my mind .. it was delicious lol

      • It sure does. Live in Calif. and eat Mex food at least twice a week, if not more. I’m Asian Am, my husband is Ital Am. We’re lucky cause there’s a chain market called Vallarta which has a deli for us non-cooks or kitchen challenged folk.

      • Had the best sopapillas at a little diner in Winslow AZ last summer. Talk about orgasm . . .

    • love guacamole but without the onion in it love avocados with lemon and salt when I lived in Hawaii had a neighbor that had avocado trees in there back yard and would eat and eat. and guavas another Mexican delight miss Hawaii loved it there but my dad was in the marines and the moved us all the time cried when i had to leave

      look no miss spelt words leaned to use my spell check

  64. I’d like to know who’s mexican or latino in this site if that’s ok with you….say I! lol

      • GREAT!!! Then I shall expect you to walk through my door any second with … damn, what’s the name of the Mexican drink with Tequilla that I adore.. duh, I’ve had a blonde moment!!!

        • Marguertita????? (Frozen strawberry margueritas could sustain me in an IV for the duration….) LMAOOOO

          • best place for drinks is new Orleans they have theirs in washing machines lined up with any flavor you want best of all you can have samples or purchase drinks in 1 gallon milk containers

            • I’ve had one too many Tony! I really need to get some rest or I’m going to suffer the consequences in the morning. hehee!

              • Sounds like you had a good Cinco de Mayo Sil! We Mexicans know how to party!!!!lol

              • Bring on the margaritas Sil! I should head to bed too or else en la mañana no me voy a querer levantar!!! Buenas noches Sil and Tony 🙂

                • Buenas Noches mi amiga! Got to learn Spanish fast. Its going to be the 1st language of California sooner than I think!lol

          • We have just one Mexican restaurant locally and I adore their Margarita’s… yay I knew someone would tell me the name!!!

            This trial has made me forget my own name! LOL

            When Jodi gets aquitted I shal go there and celebrate with a few Margaritas!!! 😀

    • with a name like “janeen russo” —— do I need to answer????? LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

      I do listen to Julio Iglesias and mexican is my second favorite food though!!!!!! LOL LOL

    • Yes Meow, im a proud Rican, from Puert Rico. I thk we have little bit of everything here! Lol

    • Great thing about Mexifornia is that you can get the real Coke made in Mexico that has sugar in it instead of American Coke that has high fructose corn syrup.

        • Holy shit!! 😯

          LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

          I fucking love you tonya!! ahahahahah!

          I was not expecting that from you. *wipes tears*

          • its true coke had cocaine in it and yes holy shit I’m crazy person me at 63 but remember drinking it with that in it till they took it out

            • Certified ! had cocaine in it, that how it got its name. They probably got the idea from Sherlock Holmes.

      • I only drink Coke from Mexico! My tacos are going to taste good. I’m also have some beans too. Corona and Modelo beer for me. The music is all Mexican/Chicano. Santana, War, El Chicano, Selena, Selena Gomez, Los Tigres Del Norte, and a whole bunch of other stuff!

        I LOVE BEING MEXICAN!!!!!!!

          • I also LOVE the fact that Latinos will be the majority here in Cali in a year or two!:-)

            • I am as full as a tick! Good Mexicano comida as usual.:-) I’m already looking forward to September 16th! A webfriend in Portland told me that they actually had a Cinco de Mayo fireworks show there! I cannot believe that.lol It really makes my heart sing with joy though.:-)

  66. You guys talking about Mexican food are seriously making me hungry! I’ve been so hungry for it today (and I don’t celebrate cinco de mayo or anything, but I’ve just been craving it today). We don’t have any good Mexican places here where I live. All we have is Taco Bell. 🙁

    • That’s too bad Britney you’re missing out. I’m sure you can make some…it’s simple to cook mexican food. Google some recipes 🙂

    • Oh no, sweetheart, we must do something about that, pronto! I have sent food to a friend before in a special container via UPS…so I wouldn’t mind sending you some if you ever want some. I would probably send you something not too spicy that wouldn’t upset your stomach. Actually though, if you can handle Taco Bell, I’m pretty sure you can handle something that’s actually authentic and healthy. =)

        • Cool. I’m going to make you something fresh sometime this week and I’ll get your email address from SJ and we can plan the perfect delivery date.

          If you love jalapenos, I have the perfect perfect dish!

    • Awww, sorry Brit . . the only thing Mexican about Taco Bell is . . uhmm .. the name Taco. It’s not bad for something different than burgers but it’s not satisfying. Wow girl, you’re getting offers for palatial delights, that’s beautiful.

        • Oh yes, we DO, especially ME!! I had some pretty good Taco’s when I was in the US.. not from Taco Bell though!

          I love jalapeno’s too!

          • GREAT Heather1! Glad to see Mexican food becoming globally popular.:-) Because we have so many people of Mexican descent or birth in the US now, Cinco de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day(which falls on September 16)are both celebrated in much of the US now!:-)

  67. The challenge for jurors to avoid “The JodiArias Trial” is nearly impossible. It occurred to me as I washed my hands in the restroom of a restaurant with a mirror TV. On the way home stopping to fill the car, the gas pumps also have a TV. Waiting rooms , airports etc….the News is all over.

    • Maybe we can hope people are just disgusted with it all Phillip. Bin Laden didn’t get this much coverage.

    • Phillip, Hopefully the jurors are being true to their word. I like to believe in honesty when it comes to jurors. It is a very important duty and one that should be taken VERY seriously.

    • I thought the only network that’s paying any attention to the Arias trial is hLN…Aren’t most public tvs tuned to CNN or Fox News??

  68. I’ll probably be remanded to the ignore list, but these ideas won’t go away.
    When JA was on the stand and Nurmi asked, “Did you kill ta” and she too calmly said “yes”. quick glance to the jury then down.
    My unanswered questions are many; of which wasn’t addressed by any of the witnesses or jury or forensics or interrogation clips that the masses were graced with.
    Most comments addressed a lot of them

    • question, Jodi has admitted to killing TA. Her quiet answer and abashed way of handling the question shows that it is probably difficult for her to say it aloud and that it wasn’t her choice to do it, that she feels shame. She probably loved him then and probably still does.

  69. Those hln murder mystery stories always have part of the interrogation on them. one of them they accused the deckhand of stabbing his boss and throwing him overboard during a storm.
    His story was rhat captain’s foot got caught in the net and he drowned. Likely story. Well he was convicted of m1 and did some time. After a conciantious det dug around, they found that the captain caught his foot in the net and went overboard. False confession. the “stab wounds” were propeller injuries.

  70. I’m posting this in pieces because I agree with the observations of other posters thoughtful anyalses. The difference in mine is that I believe the man was alive when ja got outta there.

    I can see in a coupla-3 years, we’ll hear ” Breaking news” The killers had an awakening and came forward. Jodi had to live in order to take the rap.

    I so enjoy reading all of your comments. All of you are kind, thoughtful people.
    They’re so many hiccups in this whole deal. Was TA about to blab about something in the business deals, did he have to be silenced or something?
    It seems all so framey to me.
    Oh well, I just had to unburden myself. Now i’ll fade back and red the stuff i missed. blessing to all of ya.

    • Yup, question, I am hoping that the REAL truth is revealed…I ALSO think TA was alive when Jodi left that day… Maybe she was just being the sacrificial lamb on the stand the day she said she killed TA, maybe her quiet voice was because she was lying about that…but…who knows? I do think there is SO much fishiness in this case I wonder how the jury will make heads or tails of it…
      We await in anticipation…

    • you are right on he was alive that is why she was so upset about his death

    • You’re not alone to wonder. With all the conflicting statements, the absurdity in the crime scene, all the evidence hidden from the jury, all these suspicious characters dead set to lie about Jodi on the stand and on TV, the mysterious phone calls, conference calls, washing machine, floor cleaner, stinking reek, attic, dog gate and Cancun, there is a lot more to this than was shown.

      • I think so too, viri and everyone, too much happened in those 5 days. I hope the truth is revealed afterwards, because sure as hell we’re not going to get it now.

    • Oh, Renee…sometimes I feel emotional too. But I find that a little of humor is sometimes necessary to relieve the soul. Just to break the tension that I know we are all feeling.

      Please don’t stop posting. And please know that you are very loved and appreciated by me. You are absolutely one of my favorite people here.

      ((((Renee))))

      • Ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto…………………………

        • A thousand dittos Renee’! I respect everyone here but you do know that you’re on the top of my list.:-)

    • I’m emotional over this case as well and I didn’t even know anyone involved. I started crying when the case was handed over to the jury.

  72. I cook for my wife and kids on Sundays, i made pork cutlets and fresh mushroom gravy and real mashed taters. Peas and pearl onions, homemade buttermilk biscuts, some fresh, homemade pasta noodles with a light butter cream sauce and some good ole ice cream. I grew up with 5 sisters and 6 aunts and 2 hardnosed grandmas from the midwest. It was either learn to cook or sew.

    • sam…some women LOVE men who cook for them!!! You are a prince!!!! ^5!!!

    • That sounds so good! For some reason, it reminds me of my great grandmother. She died in ’96, but she used to cook for the family. She would cook from scratch, something a lot of people don’t do these days. I sure do miss her cooking.

    • a man that cooks and cares and is loving to SAM your wonderful glad that there are sill good one left in this world

  73. The unknown is the hard parts of this. If a juror should happen to see some things they might as well just knuckle down to the tv and go for it. The media has made this trial nuclear . . alot of what the media is saying could also be part of a jurors decision knowing what all they heard while inside the jurors box, seeing the bizaar behaviors and feel for Jodi that she won’t even have any quality of life if she does walk Since the taliban have been supported by donations, we should take some for Jodi for a ticket off this planet. And that came from some people visiting me that know nothing much about this trial. One thing for sure . . judge asks if anyone has been exposed to media information and they say no .. that’s a bold face lie. . . or maybe they’re one of jm gophers, I dunno anymore. Another thing . . you can bet hln, cnn and other journalist/reports know exactly who and where the jurors live, they’re “stalking” lurking in the bushes ready to pounce as soon as they can.

  74. Jade, great post. Dr. Geffner did testify that the duro mater (sp) was not penitrated by the bullet so he obviously was the first to present that to the court. The smart jury member then questioned the M.E.’s testimony with the question about the duro mater. I think Dr. G. did a lot for the defence and he was unflappable to Mr. Martinez’s questioning. I also think Alyce L. got under the skin of this prosecutor and it showed. I have thought a lot about Matt McCartney and his friendship with Jodi and the fact that he wasn’t called to testify by either side. One thing for sure he didn’t betray his friendship with her. When I look at the witnesses for the defence and those for the prosecution, there is no comparison. Dr. S., Alyce L. and Dr. G were so knowledgeable compared to Dr. D’M and the others. The medical examiner was a disgrace and I think he did tell Det. Flores that the gun shot came first. He has told a number of versions of things so why wouldn’t that be a plausible idea. Det. Flores was the fall guy for the medical examiner’s incompetence.

  75. Hmm Hayley hasn’t been here today, hope she’s ok.. her post worried me yesterday.

    • You only have to look back at the recent overturn of the death penalty conviction of Debra Milke. This was the same cretins, in the same state, in the same county that suborned the perjury of a known lying detective attempting to send her to her death. This took 22 years to find these creeps fabricated the case.

      Armando Saldate was a detective that had testified in some 100 cases!!

      Now the volcanic lies PROVEN in this case by another detective and the coroner. And just imagine things we know that the jury doesn’t know.

      This is a county prosecution office that needs to have a full scale federal investigation the likes of which has never been seen. They are murderers.

  76. This reminds of the bad relationship Jodi had with Travis even though they were not married.

    [Chorus:]
    Our luck is running out of time
    You’re not in love with me anymore
    I wish that it would change, but it won’t, if you don’t
    Our luck is running out of time
    You’re not in love with me anymore
    I wish that it would change, but it won’t
    ‘Cause you don’t love me no more

    You need so much but not from me
    Turn your back in my hour of need
    Something’s wrong but you pretend you don’t see
    I think I interrupt your life
    When you laugh it cuts me just like a knife
    I’m not your friend, I’m just your little wife

    [Chorus:]

    They never laugh, not like before
    She takes the keys, he breaks the door
    She cannot stay here anymore
    He’s not in love with her anymore

    The bruises they will fade away
    You hit so hard with the things you say
    I will not stay to watch your hate as it grows
    You’re not in love with someone else
    You don’t even love yourself
    Still I wish you’d ask me not to go

    [Chorus:]

    He takes a drink, she goes inside
    He starts to scream, the vases fly
    He wishes that she wouldn’t cry
    He’s not in love with her anymore

    He makes demands, she draws the line
    He starts the fight, she starts the lie
    But what is true when something dies
    He’s not in love with her anymore

    You’re not in love with someone else
    You don’t even love yourself
    Still I wish you’d ask me not to go

    [Chorus:]

    They never laugh, not like before
    She takes the keys, he breaks the door
    She cannot stay here anymore
    He’s not in love with her anymore

    He takes a drink, she goes inside
    He starts to scream, the vases fly
    He wishes that she wouldn’t cry
    He’s not in love with her anymore

    He makes demands, she draws the line
    He starts the fight, she starts the lie
    But what is true when something dies
    He’s not in love with her anymore

    She’s had enough, she says the end
    But she’ll come back, she knows it then
    A chance to start it all again
    Till death do us part

    • That song was written by Madonna about when Sean would beat the shit out of her….

      I HATE him for that…!!!!!

        • I also hate him. He went from abusing Madonna to abusing Robin Wright for years. Prick.

          • I also hated his hypocracy too. He’s suppose to be a gay rights supporter but yet was a big supporter of Hugo Chavez who persecuted gays in Venezuala!:-(

      • I fell madly in lust with Sean because of the movie At Close Range.
        He was so handsome in that film and loving to Mary Stuart Masterson.
        Yah I was just a movie but I was young. 🙂
        Then I found out about the real Sean, and I don’t like him anymore.
        Besides, he did not age well.

        • PS I absolutely love the song “Live To Tell” from that film. It’s such a beautiful song.

  77. From the dark side:

    ”Not sure if that has been said on this thread but that statement tells you that Nurmi does NOT believe Arias story of self defense. If he really believed this woman had been abused and then killed to save her life and then sat in jail for 5 years waiting to see if she would get the DP, he would be fighting for her like a lion. He doesn’t like her. Cause he knows she is a cold blooded killer.”

    😀 O M F G !!!

    • UCKFAY…OUYAY to that dark side devil!!!!!! OMFG is RIGHT Heather!!!!!!

    • LOL .. geeze . . I’ve been waiting on a property damage case just as long. Every time the opponent brings up something in depositions that’s stupid, we get facts. It takes time to do things right. What an idiot . . “wheels of justice turn slow” isn’t a made up coin phrase. Someone smack that person n give’em a reason to be stupid plz.

  78. It helps me to remember that the State MUST PROVE that it was NOT self-defense. It is NOT the job of the defense to prove that it WAS (which is apparently what the haters think is the way things should be done.) And I think when the jury looks at it that way (and I’m sure someone in there will state it as a reminder), I don’t think there is any way in the world they can say that they are certain BEYOND AND TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL REASONABLE DOUBT that he did not attack her.

    • BEYOND AND TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL REASONABLE DOUBT that he did not attack her. or that she did it all remember JM said she lied so she told the jury she killed him and that is a lie she did not kill him poor jury they have there hands full of question now.

      • Hold on guys I know the UFO community will try to mind with them and get them to show up for this Travis vigils and take the attention off of them. They showed up one time in Phoenix and can do it again

  79. Phoenix area news stations and papers are announcing public prayer vigils for TA tonight.
    I guess the jury was instructed to stay indoors all weekend so they don’t accidentally bump into a vigil?

    Total bullshit and I am angry.

    • Ditto . . this is waaaaaay outta hand .. actually I’d welcome westboro to come sabbotage their vigils this time lol

    • Hey there Trixels….

      Methface’s bullshit prayer request is alive and well in Phoenix I see…..

      LOL LOL about the jury bumping in a ‘vigil’…..

      TOTALBULLSHIT is right!!!!!

    • Me too, Trixels…this has turned into a 21st Century witch hunt. I suspect all those people out there tonight with their candles would much rather be standing in the light of Jodi burning at the stake.

        • What’s your thoughts, cb? Are you thinking they are trying to get to the jury?

          • Reeks of some political point dressed in sheeps clothing to me. This isn’t a vigil .. it’s Salem repeating history for one thing and this country is looking for a reason to enforce martial laws. Hope I’m wrong and don’t want my comment to be considered “seed”, but nothing good ever came from clandestine formations.

            • so if a crowd formed to give all the banksters the death penalty for ripping trillions of dollars off..would the cops come with mace, batons, dogs and tasers?

              witch trials indeed!

              Jury is tainted beyond belief because Kangaroo Court Judge doesn’t care..

            • It does sound like the Travis kkk is out to burn candles and prepare the noose for Jodi, her DT and the jurors.

              • Seriously, this is the most ridiculous shit. People get killed every day, many of them better people than Travis was. What is all the hero worship about?

    • Sounds like they ARE trying to get to the jury! It makes me so mad that the judge didn’t sequestered the jury! This is ALL her fault!

  81. Our chapter of Patriot Guard tries to stay soley supportive of westboro/military matters by controlling and patrolling. Since westboro has been pushed back, there’s not much reason to show up. I would love to send about 60 bikers to one of the vigils

  82. Hi Everyone,

    Just popped in to say Hi and love the shirts – I pre-ordered mine today. This is a GREAT way for Jodi to put some positive energy out there. Hopefully, people will learn a little more about abuse after this and perhaps have more insight as to why kids bully.

    I hope everyone here buys their shirt whether you are a survivor of abuse, an accident or an illness. I pray for everyone on this site for your health and well-being and I also thank God/Universe for this site. And now, back to work. 😀

  83. What exactly are they praying for? or against? the dp? or something more general?

  85. Does anyone know what Christ said about revenge ? I don’t understand, why is the Mormon church allowing such a show of hate and revenge? Can’t they forbid this outrage ?

    • I have asked the haters on occasion, assuming that many of them consider themselves to be good Christians, if they thought Jesus would behave this way or would approve of all these hateful words, attitudes and behaviors. Of course, I never get a response. I’m sure they just blow it all off, go off to church (or some religious vigil) and then go home to spew more anger and hatred toward Jodi.

    • Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. Romans 12:19

  86. I have always been a fan of ID Channel and murder mysteries but now when I watch I am thinking, you didn’t really prove to me that person was guilty. I was like that before about some cases but now I am hyper-vigilant after watching JM’s repulsive tactics of shoving lies down a jury’s throat. I am borderline obsessed with this case but can’t let myself totally go because I will feel crushed if they come back with anything more than manslaughter. It’s far from funny but lol @ Trixels vigil comment. Lord help us if they stumble over a candle. I always attend vigils for individuals who treat women like used toilet paper.

    • I agree Gwen!!!

      I too watch ID all the time and I question so much more now than I have ever done.

      Methface’s prayer request and fast has definitely assembled the masses. Their mentality is starting to remind me of Jim Jones…

    • “Lord help us if they stumble over a candle. I always attend vigils for individuals who treat women like used toilet paper.”

      lol Gwen!

    • Same here. This case has opened my eyes more to all of the superficial coverage that these shows have.

    • wait are you guys laughing at me or with me LOL
      im so confused my brain is fried today with personal shit and jodi too.
      i just glanced at the state of travisite page and there a pics of family and friends at the memorial, I guess it was in CA. where TA is buried.
      Dave Hall has packed on quite a few pounds since his smiling pics from Cancun 2008.

      • I’m actually surprised that quite a lot of TA’s friends got really heavy in the last few years. Must be that Mormon jello.

  87. Hey all, I haven’t checked in this weekend till now. I saw on the Jodi Arias Friends & Family FB group that there will be prayer for Jodi at 6 PM / 9 PM eastern tonight. I’m definitely going to take part, just letting you guys know that don’t already.

  88. What chapped my ass was the Travis side all wearing the blue ribbins to send the jury see us here dont forget us we want her dead and that the judge allowed it INJUSTICE the judge should of made them take them off before the closing arguments started

    • They not only should have been ordered to remove them, they should have been ordered to remove THEMSELVES from the closing arguments. Their eye rolling, smirks, dagger stares at Jodi, fake tears, and other theatrics were all allowed and that is UNFORGIVABLE. Just for that Samantha Stephens should be sent back to traffic court.

      It is an OUTRAGE. And to top it all off, even after Tanisha was ORDERED ON THE RECORD to not participate in any further discussions in chambers – her continued theatrics INSIDE the courtroom were still allowed to continue! Even after that stupid fucking judge knew this witch had committed witness tampering!

      It is beyond my comprehension how any attorney watching this trial can sit with a straight face and say “conviction”. As far as I’m concerned, Jodi should NOT be convicted of anything.

      And just for the record…if this Massengil persecutor even tries to charge Jodi with any type of “lying” offense, that bastard had better get his balls handed to him if he DOES NOT GO AFTER TANISHA FOR WITNESS TAMPERING!!!!!

  89. All the food talk as made me hungry and will go find something to eat really don’t want taco bell have steak in refrigerator and cook a vegetable with it but ill be back

  90. A post I just made on IA , in response to a question.

    Martinez’ total incompetence has made the task of the defence easier in some respects, it’s true. But as many people have commented, the only issue before the court should have been a charge of manslaughter.

    The whole of Maricopa’s law enforcement team have been shown to be disastrous and incompetent.

    Flores: not the worst, his original investigation was almost competent, but he didn’t seem to even consider DV as the explanation.
    Subsequently he has lied on the stand about his supposed “misunderstanding” of Horn. He is unable to interpret a crime scene ( or perhaps never even looked at it ).

    Horn: an appallingly incompetent medical examiner, who testified on things beyond his expertise, who will agree with anything he is asked, and who made several mistakes in his autopsy.

    Martinez: a deranged prosecutor, attempting to prove his nonn-existent senseless case by trickery and preventing the truth coming out.

    Then the other completely dopey and incompetent state witnesses : I suppose no-one with any credibility would agree to be involved.

    This case surely has to be a milestone for the myriad problems of the US justice system, and similar idiocies we see repeated over and over in the cases featured in IA. And played out on cable television, with an ignorant horde of airheads following the case on HLN, and an even more bizarre collection of presenters. Entertainment for the masses, some new kind of substitute for religion.

    But in the end, I have a kind of sneaking admiration for the way that, despite all this, the system has somehow just about held together.
    But there are so many lessons to be learned here.

  91. I know this is far-fetched but wouldn’t it be funny if the jurors all showed up in these Survivor shirts Monday as a preview of their nullification kind of like in the OJ case? I can dream, can’t I? Talk about the good Mormons and the HLN fools going batshit! . I don’t pray a lot but I will pray for Jodi!!!

    • That would be awesome . . but they live there .. life will be hard enough and most likely the ones that don’t flow their way is getting run out of town afterward anyway.

  92. A little inspiration for Jodi and for all of us today 🙂

    When you’re down to nothing, God is up to something. The faithful see the invisible, believe the incredible and then receive the impossible.- Rumi

  93. Giant melon head Chris Hughes posted on his twitter (4/20/13) that Dan Freeman’s brother killed himself the day Jodi was arrested? Reason being because he was attracted to little boys and didn’t want to act out? WHAT THE?

    This from a photo on FB Inconvenient Truth:
    Dan’s brother, Joshua, shot himself and died a week later. His attempt or death, I am not certain, came the day Jodi was arrested. He had also been sexually molested as a child. More odd coincidences.

    • This is the strangest group of people/friends that could have ever come together. I feel terrible that Jodi got sucked into being w them!

      • yes another sword on the coffin along with Travis perhaps he was killed but Chris and sky Hughes and the ones that wonted to say something were killed we are dealing with KKK clan here and anything or anybody that gets in the way ins up dead need i say more they will do anything to keep the PPL alive and making money

      • I clicked on the link.. it said it wasn’t available.

        Some very disturbing stuff going on.

    • Yes, Trixels, Dan Freeman has journal entries on caring bridge and you can read his brother’s sucide note, among other entries from the family. It is very sad.
      Look up Soldier Hollow School which Chris Hughes is on the board on. There is also a post by SJ on this site’s home page. I’ve never heard of so many pedophiles around one person like CH. Also for anyone who is interested CH is going to be on Websleuth’s podcast at 8pm eastern time. Supposedly he is going to reveal something. But I don’t really believe much of what he says, cause he also said if the full content of that email was known it would blow the defense out of the water, then he only releases small bits and pieces of it. And if it was so damaging to the defense JM would have been all over it. Why didn’t JM call CH? I think it would have been to damaging to the prosecution, not to the defense.

    • The attempt was made the day Jodi was arrested. It took him several days to die of the gunshot wound to the head because, get this, he used an unspecified “very small caliber gun”.

      • Sounds like the same kind of caliber weapon used on TA where the bullet DID NOT perforate the dura mater.

      • Hi Journee…this is an interesting read of unregulated gun sales on the internet…and make sure you read the comments at the bottom of the link…

        [quote]The Mormon Church owns one of the most active and unregulated gun sale portals on the web, according to a national investigation released by the New York City Mayor’s office[quote]

        http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2843121/posts

    • Yeah, his sister thinks the medication he was on had something to do with the suicide. I agree with her. She also said his suicide was really for noble reasons and I agree with that too. I truly like and respect the Freeman family. I’m so sorry for their loss.

      • Yes, both Daniel and Desiree appeared to be very honest, upstanding, kind people. So sad for their family. I’m glad they had their brother for the few days he hung on so that they were able to say goodbye. It’s heartbreaking that he felt he had no other alternative. Wonder if he was on some kind of SSRI. SSRI’s can cause suicidal or homicidal behavior in some individuals taking them.

        • Yes, well he was still so young krikee. They say SSRIs are more risky for young people. Oh, it’s just so sad. I agree that Daniel and Desiree are honest, upstanding, and truly kind. Daniel Freeman was on Nancy Grace (blech!) the other night, and he said well he hadn’t heard all about the case from the news. He doesn’t own a TV. He won’t have one. I know a very religious guy who won’t have a TV either. He does so many good, wonderful things. He’s very active. Oh well, I just wanted to say I like their family too, and I’m so sorry about their brother.

    • Oh WOW, yet another freaky bizarre coincidence.

      I liked the Freemans on the stand, they both seemed genuinely interested in telling the truth. Such a sad thing for the family.

      • Hi MB! I’m back for a few minutes…

        1. How long after his bro die did D. Freeman, ‘change’ his mind re. JA’s innocence?
        2. The gun used by his bro – was it the same caliber as the one used on Ashley Reed’s ‘suicide’?
        **** (Is this the ‘smoking gun’???)

        3. Also do you know when CH/SH left for Cancun i.e. how long BEFORE TA’s body was discovered? Seems like ‘strangely/coincidently/conveniently’ they just ‘happened’ to be at SUCH a FAR REMOVED distance, and ‘unfortunately’ OTHERS had to be the ones to make the gruesome discovery and sadly ‘take the trouble’ to ‘seek’ the out, and ‘break’ the new to them!!! It just seems odd to me. Don’t you think when TA did not take care of business on that ‘scheduled’ business call on the 4th of June, that CH would have been livid and make sure he got answers from TA for slacking off??? Yeah, right!

  94. I really wish the jury was allowed to know Jodi was doing this since domestic abuse is such a big issue in this case. Who else would be waiting for the jury to come back with a verdict on her life and take the time to create Survivor tees to benefit womens shelters????

    • I don’t think this is relevant….It has nothing to do with the crime she’s charged with.

  95. Methinks Doc Doogie did a p00-poo on his little friend’s “case”!!!!!!!:) Happy Cinco De Mayo everybody!!!!!

  96. “DR” Demarte….

    Let’s see ummmmm

    $300 + $300 + $300 + $300 +$300 …….oh yeah, Jodi can read.

    Bet you won’t ever forget the name Geffner either, you borderline Sasquatch.

  97. Silly me…I used to think the prosecution had to more or less stick to the truth, not play fast and loose with it. This has been an eye opener. If you even get accused and charged in AZ, your best bet is probably to cop a plea even if you’re completely innocent before the State starts sewing their fabricated evidence together like a quilt!!

    • I hope the good residents of Arizona have been paying very close attention…..

      Every single last one of them should be extremely frightened for themselves, their friends, their kids, their relatives and all of them shoud be saying when looking at this fucked up mockery of a “courtroom” spectacle….

      THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO I.

      If I were a resident of Arizona: FOR SALE would be on my front lawn.

      • Hasn’t the State of AZ already spent close to 2 million between pros. and def. on this case? And now Chez Arapaio is squeezing a dollar a day out of every inmate so they can pay for their own meals of “slop” soy stew and govt. peanut butter. I used to think AZ was a cool State, but it’s evident that the inmates are running the asylum now.

      • Oh that has been my sentiment ever since this trial began, I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve told the haters that, this could happen to any one of them, aaargh they make me so mad..

        I wouldn’t ever set foot in AZ, this trial will remain with me forever.

  98. the morm are going to run arizona just like they do utah .. this is a mormon run trial

  99. es or jury or forensics or interrogation clips that the masses were graced with. Who knows how many hours are on the cutting room floor.

    I can relate to the coverup stuff and how squirmy you feel when questioned.
    Police interviewers like to say go ahead and sign and you’ll get a break.

    I’m with one of yesterdays posters that said Yeah; 110 lbs dragging a 200lb muscley
    wrestler w/ one hand, camera in the other. Don’t make sense. (I couldn’t even lift my poor old grandpa that fell out of bed..had to have help) and I was strong and very physically fit).
    yesterdays poster mentioned footprints hasty, cleanup and camera in the washer.
    I tried to put my thinking with that of intruders and ww they do.

    This part of my post didn’t show earlier, but it’s kind of key because I’m thinking when you’re making up covering stories, it’s hard to keep them straight…you know..guns, gas, location of stuff ect etc..

    • I think the judge reads them to the jury in the last video on Friday…

  101. Trixels…suicide is so sad…and yet the mormon church and suicide seem to go “hand in hand” with one another….

    Travis Alexander and the story below have a lot in common…

    This story is about Kip Eliason…how he struggled to overcome masturbation starting at age 11 when his grandmother persuaded him to join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS)…Kip was an intelligent and sensitive young man, perhaps too sensitive….Kip’s mother died when he was six ears old and it had a profound affect on him. At times Kip was quiet and reflective, spending hours alone in his room, and yet he was outgoing by nature. Kip was a born leader. His classmates and teachers admired him for his friendly way and all-American good looks. Kip was truthful and possessed a farm-community naiveté.

    [quote]Today Kip’s story is one told more and more often in Mormon wardhouses. Behind the scenes the church and community mental-health agencies in Utah are quietly fighting a sex-related mental-health epidemic among Mormon men and women. Mental-health fallout in Utah communities has been substantial and pervasive. Utah has the highest birthrate and the largest families in America. More than 50% of all births are by teenage mothers, with seven of ten out of wedlock, and it has one of the highest divorce rates in the nation.[quote]

    Read more of the full story here at this link below…

    http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/sin_and_death_in_mormon_country.shtml

    • That is one messed up doctrine. Keep a calendar with the days you masturbated painted in black, leave the bathroom door ajar and don’t spend any more than 5 minutes in it, tie your hand to the bedpost. What lunacy! Are they from another planet? Wait, maybe they’re compatriots of Zenu, Lord of everyone’s favorite quasi-religion.

      • krikee…you are right…and I see that you posted that one sentence that captured my attention too about “tie your hands to the bedframe”….

        [quote]instruction they receive comes from either The Bishop’s General Handbook or the litany of pamphlets and instructional manuals pumped out by the LDS publishing arm… literally this is what the mormon church teaches them…

        geesh…isn’t this what Travis and Jodi did with the rope that Wednesday, June 4th…no wonder they had ideas of tying hands to the the bedframe…it was testified earlier on in court that Travis was being groomed to be a Bishop in the mormon church…

        • It is the Bishop’s General Handbook or the manuals they publish that teaches…about tying your hands to the bedframe….

          And Travis was being groomed to be a Bishop in their church…it was testified earlier in court…

          Yes…he would have the rope and the knife or scissors already in his room…because he was probably following that advice for himself all the other days that Jodi wasn’t around….

  102. I don’t know about you guys
    but I am probably going to take a break from involving myself
    day in and day out in another murder trial for a long time.

    This trial has really stressed me out to the max, Thanks JM and his screeching
    voice and antics, I felt abused on most days. It was always refreshing when JW or KN
    would get up and also when we got to hear testimony from Dr. Samuels, Alyce & Dr Geffner.

    I will admit, the past several nights since the trial went into deliberations
    I have had the worst nightmares.

    My health has definately not been up to par so to speak these past few months.

    But again I have said it before I have learned so much about the mental psyche
    the human condition regarding love, betrayal, and the inner workings of
    that part of psychology. Especially with Dr. Samuels & Alyce.

    I have also learned again that people are so malicious and evil,
    and I think that is what has triggered my health to go into anxiety stress mode
    ( I suggest everyone take Magnesium Calcium vitamins plus B-12 & Super B Complex =
    those vitamins help stress and replaces your vitamins that have been depleted
    during times of stress ) I love Natural Calm The Anti-Stress drink google it
    it’s amazing )
    The part where people have been so malicious and evil, well I was a victim of a trauma
    a home invasion 5 years ago that I still have PTSD from.
    I never went to counselling, I just moved forth in my life on a journey
    that incident happened in 2008 the same year Jodi and Travis’s life changed forever.

    I don’t know why I was so drawn to this trail, I watched the OJ trail on and off
    and I did not watch the Casey Anthony trail but read about it here and there but never
    formulated such vile hatred like the ones that have been formed since CA and
    now towards Jodi Arias.

    I feel that there’s some shady courtroom “mafia” F-d-up-shit that has gone down
    in the Maricopa County Courthouse with JM, Judge Stephens, Flores, Dr Horn & Dr Demented,
    IT IS SUCH that NEGATIVE ENERGY I feel coming from these individuals that has caused
    me to feel such a dark cloud of stress enter my life.

    I am so fucking glad the circus is over.

    Again I can tell no matter how much we pray and tell ourselves
    there will be a positive outcome we just won’t know until that second
    the verdict is read, so how I am dealing with it is just taking really good
    care of myself this weekend and I advise and hope the same for
    all of you wonderful strangers here in this Safe Haven of ours…..

    Now that I got that off my chest, I am going to watch Girl, Interrupted and Prozac Nation
    and make myself a stiff Margarita!

    Now if you guys felt stressed during this trial and it affected your health
    keep in mind HOW THE JURORS must have felt sitting there inches away
    from JM’s yelling and teacup spinning antics…crime scene photos and the
    emotional journey that we all took with Jodi Arias.

    I leave you with this article that sums it up the best regarding

    “Murder trial jurors can be overwhelmed, traumatized”

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/06/28/jury.stress.ptsd/index.html

    Again sending light and love to all of you
    and I enjoy reading every single one of your posts…
    thanks for the support everyone

    • Josh….

      We love your posts too!

      WTG on taking care of yourself!

      We will most certainly keep the faith going…. 🙂

    • Sweet Josh, thank you .. yes, preservation is key .. along with your vita cocktail . . look into Pycnogenol aka pine bark .. it’s a super antioxidant cell rejuvenation extract .. it’s what’s repaired my heart damage from stress since there is nothing else to fix like weight/hbp/diabetes and there are no side effects.. Relax and enjoy your drink and movies. 🙂

    • Josh…maybe we all need to get together and go on a cruise ship vacation…maybe not Carnival though…hmmm…LOL…

      • Fantastic idea .. and lol @ carnival . .wouldn’t that be fun. We can’t let out the location or cruise lines. . the taliban be getting out their battleships . . damn buzz killers lol

    • JoshDavis 🙄

      you have had a great awakening and will recover you need rest and we will all be together when the jury reads the verdict take care of yourself

      • Thanks guys! 🙂
        Right back at all of you and NO we will not be taking
        any Carnival Cruises anytime soon…
        maybe on the Titanic II that Australian billionaire Clive Palmer
        is building. We will bring Rose and Jack with us

    • Yes, this trial has been draining. Going up against the Momo machine always is.
      I went to battle to get my daughter’s cheer coach removed from the district, and the state.
      It turns out he was previously arrested for an incident with the jv basketball team and an incident involving a mop handle, i not get into details, you get the idea…

      The whole cheer team, parent and school board went against me, until I finally was able to retrieve records and convince the principle to put in hidden cameras, and conduct interviews. The principal said he always was suspicious, I put the pieces together for the the school board. That coach is back in UTAH now.

      But the bad taste in everyone’s mouth was still there…like it was my fault for ruining their perfect little cheer world by exposing a pedophile.!!!!’We moved out of state to a new school district. Somehow Momo’s protect their Dirty Little Secrets.

    • Josh, I’m having Natural Calm w/ tea right now as I type this. It really is a miracle drink. Take care, meditate or pray, be grateful, and remember to laugh.

      • Thanks Krikee, yes Natural Calm is amazing
        and so is cold pressed juicing which I am doing now from home
        “Organic Kale, Spinach, Celery, Parsley, Lime, Romaine, Ginger & Lemon”
        I decided to be healthy and not do margaritas today although
        that can change in just a matter of minutes 🙂

    • You sound like such a nice person! I hope you are feeling better soon and less stressed! Take good care and “detox”. Those are some good vitamins, I haven’t been as good at taking mine, I know bad patient! I should start right along with you! You give good ideas and good thoughts!

  103. Thank you guys for the awesome posts that have kept me up to date! I started a new position as an office manager 2 weeks ago and have been so busy! But I am here for you guys and I know it’s all good!

  104. I am having a very difficult time watching all that is being written in here. I was drawn to this room because at first I observed people of the same mind set as me. However I see that most of you are not as time moves on. There is not going to be an acquictal. Jodi admitted to doing the crime. Jodi went to trial to prove it was not premeditated. It was up to the state to prove that it was outright murder and convince the jurors. Now the case is in the hands of the jurors. Her own lawyer asked they consider manslaughter therefore Jodi is taking responsibility. I do not think anyone in the right mind would kill unless provoked or in self defense. Yes there are people that kill but that is not the norm of our society.
    That young lady has sat in a jail for 5 years, had the most intimate part of her life be exposed (let alone her body) and will be hated by many. TA is dead and does not have to endure what Jodi is going through. What did come out of this trial was TA was not a virgin and that is why the haters are causing such a ruckus. He fooled many of them. How do you think they feel?
    Along with all of this other people suffered as well. For being courageous we have Dr. Samuels and Alyce who told it as it was. What do you think is going through their minds? Instead of focusing on all these other characters like the Freeman’s and Hughes is a mute point in my opinion.
    Before I wrote the I said to myself, “What would Alyce do?” I got my answer.

    • PJ go back to the hate site they will love you there stay off this site it is for Jodi

      • PJ with all due respect I am having a very difficult time watching all that is being written in here.
        Then why read and why post? I think everyone on here has been civilized and when we get
        heated I think logically for us on this site, it is for a reason. Some of us here may be praying
        for an acquittal, some may be praying for anything less then Murder 1 & DP.
        But just in case you have been under a rock EVERYONE and I DO MEAN 90 percent
        of the people our there are downright PRAYING that JODI be SENT TO DEATH
        it’s like the dark ages!
        I agree the punishment should fit the crime But I really don’t think anyone
        has said anything on here that is more offensive then the stuff that is on twitter, facebook
        and HLN. Again I am not attacking you but I just need to voice my opinion
        just like you have voiced yours.

        I did take offense when you said “I am having a very difficult time watching
        all that is being written in here.”

        Seriously go read Nancy Grace’s tweets or something improper and
        carry on

      • You are so very wrong and should not take it personal. I am allowed to state and opinion. And I was never on the haters side.

        • Well PJ
          It’s hard not to take things personal when we come here
          & take time to post things from how we feel, to things that
          are going on in our personal lives like the post I just ]
          wrote about my home invasion which is very personal
          and you popping up and saying in your first sentence –

          “I am having a very difficult time watching all that is being written in here. I was drawn to this room because at first I observed people of the same mind set as me. However I see that most of you are not as time moves on. ”

          you should re-read what you wrote and then ask yourself
          maybe you should have written it differently? It sounds like you
          are formulating a personal attack against some of these posters

          Don’t worry I have my big boy pants on and I don’t take things personal.
          I just like I mentioned took offense to what you wrote

          Peace

        • I can tell you aren’t a hater PJ. I understand what you were saying in that I’m a supporter and I believe that Jodi will be convicted of something based on the jury not being sequestered and by the tone of some of their questions. I think what bothered people is that you kind of judged what they were talking about.

          • I agree, JC. I think PJ made a poor choice of words in those 1st few sentences. It wasn’t until I read further, that I realized the poster was pro-Jodi. What were you trying to say, PJ? Maybe if you apologize for offending anyone, and explain better what was bothering you, all will be cool.

        • i do not get the uproar over PJ’s post. think he’s on point re: an acquittal, since jodi admitted killing him. i also see the point that self defense doesn’t equal murder/crime.

          i think the hardest thing for the jury to get over is “the overkill”, All the wounds… AND the grandparents missing gun is troublesome or ironic.
          jodi will get something, but preMed, it’s NOT, imo. too many things don’t align with premed murder.

          TA’s own words should greatly help jodi IF the jury is truly objective. TA was a bullshitter. i bet some of his friends felt lied to, but in death people r often Sainted in memory.

          and i didn’t think jodi mouthed “bullshit” like ms. disgrace, dr. drew went on and on about. i don’t care IF jodi mouthed it, i just couldn’t agree that she said bullshit. could have been “not true”, imo.

          this trial has lowered hln, cnn to new LOW heights. what a bunch of pandering bull artists. the verbal assaults on Jodi is way over the line. it should not b allowed. should be more objective. it’s not that hard.

          the med. ex. was able to get thru med school but seems to b an idiot. guess that’s why they dont want him treating LIVING people.

          Martinez has to b one of the most egotistical, obnoxious DA’s ever. he’s a disgrace to the “justice system”.

          let’s hope jodi gets a fair judging from the jury. i can NOT see them all going for premed/dp.

          good luck to all, ESP. JODI. we may not know the whole truth, but this is far from a deth sentence.
          she can and will contribute to society after this.

    • PJ,

      Why do you feel the need to rain on our parade?????? We are OPTIMISTIC here. We have what is called “FAITH” here.

      If we want to say Jodi will be acquitted – why does that bother you???????

      The posters here have one goal in common – to be there for each other. What support does your post give ANYONE on this site?

      If you feel that strongly about our posting our wishes….feel free to blow over my posts and not comment on any of them. After all, even though I do NOT agree with you, I wouldn’t infringe on your first amendment rights; but I would prefer if you bring your pessimism to the haters site and leave us to our business here.

        • Anytime Tonya….((((((HUGS))))))))))

          (I posted a message to you below too….LOL LOL)

        • I get it. As much as I’d love to see Jodi get acquitted, I don’t have high hopes of it happening and will not be surprised at a manslaughter or M2 verdict.

          • manslaughter’s fair. it should not b M2, imo.
            among other things TA admitted to raping her, etc. WHO says those things? who brags or jokes about raping your girlfriend?
            isn’t THAT proof enuf of abuse?

      • Thanks from me, too, Janeen. We must ALL remember the Law of Attraction.

        THINK POSITIVE, especially NOW!

        We must NOT allow room for ANY negativity.

        FREEDOM FOR OUR JODI! 😀

    • I’m confused about your position. It sounds like you want a good outcome for Jodi but you don’t see her being acquitted. I’m also confused bc you say the haters were lied to by TA too. Do you mean this must be hurting them also? I admit no matter what side you’re on in this matter there is a lot of damage done. I also don’t understand what would Alyce do. Maybe I just don’t understand what you said clearly. Do you believe that she killed in self defense? Are you saying TA doesn’t have to endure the violation of having their private lives exposed as Jodi does bc he is no longer w us? I don’t know I’m kind of confused, not kind of, really confused :).
      Everyone here is really positive and people like to keep each other positive. Of course the best thing in my eyes (or ears) would be to hear self defense and let her right out of jail.

      Maybe I’ve misunderstood what you’ve said. If I have I’m sorry :).

      • Danielle, I am also confused by PJ’s comment. It seems to contradict itself.
        Glad I am not the only one who feels he/she is…a bit vague.

        • i think overall PJ is just saying an acquittal is not realistic. and ppl saying/hoping for one are not being realistic. don’t believe he was really downing anyone per se.

          ppl overreacted, imo.

          good vibes sent out to jodi and her family and supporters.

    • George Zimmerman admitted to doing it too—lots of people admit to the killing. The question before the jury is was it self defense where Jodi admits to feeling an immiment threat wiith kill you bitch followed by a black out in time until she heard the knife drop and she screamed OR one of at least 6 versions of Martinez’s story that makes her a premediatated murderer in his twisted mind—things that are extremely iffy and some unproven—hair color, gas cans and a burglary of a gun at the grandparents house. Let’s see Jodi was never charged with stealing a gun or doing the burgalary so that is moot and is lower than circumstantial in my opinion. Strange things happen all the time. Next the hair color is laughable—she changed her hair color to brown in stages as it did not take fully dark until the later colorings and by the way what exactly is changed hair color gonna do for you? women do it all the time.

      In his closing statement Juan even supposed a theory where she did steal as he put it a gun owned by Travis and he would consider that theft and home invasion. Why does the throw that out there? Because he knows the origins of the gun issue is very weak

      The state has the burden of the proof in this case to prove beyond reasonable doubt that she premeditated a murder and not that it happened in any number of different ways.Jodi has to prove NOTHING. What did he do in his closing? Suggest several alternate theories of sequence events since his own ME was proven to be a liar and his patsy Flores got caught lying and he knows damn well that is reasonable doubt written all over those two fiascos for imperative witnesses.

      The severity of the killing suggests two things if we cannot ascertain reliably how it started and at what point Travis stopped attacking back. One it suggests a hell of a fight in a very short duration of time. Two it suggests potentially what Nurmi stated a snapping or crime of passion.

      Jodi does not remember which makes this even harder to piece together properly. Juan’s case is flimsy and more about smoke and mirrors other than concrete proof. The only concrete proof they have is the palm print, confession and the death of Travis.

      People must look beyond the gruesome photos and still ask the same question did the state prove their case not did Jodi.

    • PJ posted this [quote]TA was not a virgin and that is why the haters are causing such a ruckus. He fooled many of them. How do you think they feel?[quote]

      Seriously PJ…I think they all feel S C R E W E D and when a person feels S C R E W E D they feel hatred and scorned and they’ll spew their vial hatred comments from their dragon mouths…

      And seriously…there are probably a handful of those women who wished he had screwed them…and they are pissed off at him for other obvious reasons and they’ll spew their hatred comments also…

      P.J…..I am curious…Are you a “mole” for reporting back to news reporters for HLN or Dr. Drew?…I know that they dig their lowest to find their next “Big Breaking News Report”….and seriously it has pretty much already been said and done….now we all are waiting for the verdict…

    • PJ,

      I’m not sure where you coming from with that observation. As far as you no longer being in the same mindset as we are that is.

      Everyone here is undeniable pro-Jodi. That has not changed.

      Not EVERYONE here thinks Jodi will be acquitted. Some here have a legal background and yes, they tend to lean more on a verdict of Manslaughter or even M2.

      There are a few of us who are praying and hoping that based on the fact that the prosecution witnesses flat out lied and attempted to hide/corrupt evidence, she will be acquitted. Maybe that’s not realistic, but hey…who can say it won’t happen?

      We all know Jodi lied. We all know she admitted to killing him and yes, she’s willing to take responsibility. No one is arguing that at all.

      Why are we not allowed to talk about the people who have been intrinsic in Jodi’s destruction? We are not planning to go out and attack any of them online or otherwise.

      Here in this small web space, we are free to ponder and discuss all aspects of the trial without being attacked by these hateful people. Again, I stress this to you and to everyone that’s possibly reading this right now. This is a Jodi support website. It is the prominent message as stated by SJ.

      I don’t think Alyce would be offended by anything we post. Yes, we curse and yes, we get upset and angry. and yes, we name call (But we’re hilarious, btw!) …And none of the shit we post…none of it ever compares to what these haters do. And We NEVER EVER set out to go ruin anyone’s careers and/or lives.

      • Well said Sil, You could not have stated your opinion any better
        and PJ I am sorry if I came across on defense mode
        but there was just something wrong about what you wrote, the way you
        stated things that rubbed me the wrong way. It’s okay for us to all have
        our opinions but like Sil said, I don’t see anyone being on the level
        of the haters out there in this forum. If I felt indifferent I would not come here
        anymore or post. It is easy as that.

        It’s all about good vibes brother

      • So let’s see…a couple of people say they have a “legal” background, but I don’t know of any lawyers who are actively posting here. Having a legal background isn’t the same thing. I don’t know of any thinking person who could possibly think she should get murder two or manslaughter after that fiasco on Wednesday.

        The jury is tainted if they come to ANY other conclusion other than acquittal. There is NO evidence of guilt here.

      • wow Sil…such passion…and I agree with everything that you said…

      • Thank you all. I don’t know if I overreacted, but I stand by EVERYTHING I said.

        Perhaps I’m just being too sensitive, but for some reason I can admit that right now I’m irrational when it comes to things said against Jodi or when I feel we’re being attacked in any kind of way. 😳

    • “Jodi admitted to doing the crime.”
      No. Jodi admitted to killing in self-defense, which is not a crime.

    • Hey PJ, what’s up? I agree with most of your post, except for this:

      “He fooled many of them. How do you think they feel?”

      Give me a good reason to care about how the haters feel. They have been destructive, abusive, threatening, harassing, intimidating, and emotional terrorists to Jodi, Jodi’s family and friends, and her supporters (us) for the past four months.

      I have had many revelations about myself and the people I know in my life. I am not obtuse, nor am I a stranger to finding out things that are alarming and make me question my own perspective. And I have NEVER acted the way they have acted, I have NEVER presumed it was okay to attack anyone else who made up their own mind if I chose to talk about it. I mean wow, the total lack of motivation to hold aggressors accountable for their actions boggles my mind.

      I don’t see what’s wrong with any of the posts here, except for the ones that want to incriminate Jodi in some way. What is it that you are upset about – people saying they want a full acquittal or the refusal to tolerate the psychological bullshit the haters have put us through? Because I don’t see anything wrong with either of those things. And SJ has posted since the beginning that there will be an acquittal, I guess I’m confused as to why you take issue with this *now* after being at the site for so long.

      I dunno, am I missing something here??

      • (((((((((MB)))))))) – You are the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER for this season!!!! Grand Slam once again!!!!!

        I “heart” you…(I don’t know how the hell to make the stupid little red shitting thing….) LOL LOL

        • Thanks sweetheart, I <3 you too 🙂

          I am not the only one – if it weren't for all you I'd be batty by now. I really would.

          (((((((((((group hug)))))))))))))))

      • This may sound crazy but do you think with in TAs friends/acquaintances there are a lot of TEAM JODI members that can’t admit they are bc of the mob mentality? I mean they may have loved him while alive but w all of this stuff about him and them finding out all of this stuff about him and all the lies he told them they may have to keep up appearances so they don’t get screamed at but they may have a lot of sympathy for Jodi in their hearts.

        • I think if anyone is secretly pro-Jodi, we probably haven’t heard of them. lol

          So many have gone on TV to say the ugliest things, I think it’s clear that they hate, fear, and dislike Jodi for irrational reasons. It *could be* that they are speaking because they are being intimidated, though. That is possible.

          • That’s a strange, twisted group of friends though. It’s funny that they thought Jodi was weird bc they are really strange people.

            • They *are* really weird people aren’t they????

              Now I have known strange people. Don’t get me wrong. lol But I guess you could say that they were strange in a good/intriguing way, but the Travis Taliban is strange in an unhealthy, deceptive way. Bizarre people with one too many bizarre coincidences. IMO

          • You know, MB, I could even tolerate unkind words about Jodi, if they were true, but what really pisses me the hell off with these haters is the complete and UTTER MADE UP LIES!! These people get on TV and tell completely fabricated stories about her, I have can not FATHOM what on earth would make them feel justified in that!
            I reserve the right to believe there is a HUGE cover up here, there is no other reasonable explanation for it.

            PJ, I never mind some one else stating their opinion, but when they do so, and then in the same sentence suggest that I don’t have that same right, or that MINE is incorrect or inferior, THAT is when I take offense. Yes there is plenty that we discuss here that some may find irrelevant, but just because it is irrelevant to YOU, doesn’t make it so. If you don’t like something read over it, or go to another site.

            I know this is online, but your post is equivalent to you walking up to a group of chatting people at a gathering you have attended and telling them their conversation sucks. It is just really odd that you seem to be oblivious to you instigative behavior.

            • Km….

              Your second to last sentence is beyond funny!!!!! LMAOOOOOOOOO

              Holy shit – Km…you never disappoint!!! (((((((((((KM)))))))))))) —– hugs to you my friend!!!!!! You are AWESOME!!!!

              I “heart” you!!!

            • Excellently put KM. I agree.

              There’s plenty of conversations that I just scroll through. Like the gas can conversations – no offense to anyone but after a while I just sort of tuned it out because I already formed my opinion that they were a nonissue. BUT I did not go and tell anyone that they couldn’t post about it.

              The few times I felt I needed to step in is when I see people insinuating that abusive behavior is okay, or when comments intentionally incriminate Jodi. Those are my two big concerns, as Jodi is a battered woman and there *are* in fact battered women who come here and don’t need to see that shit.

              • Yes, me too. Certain subjects like gas cans, hair dye, etc. I am burnt out on, but the one that I get irritated with is fence sitters asking us to “convince them” or “help them understand”. I have zero patience for those. BUT, I just scan over……. 🙂

          • I do wonder if Jeanne Cesarez is pro-Jodi, but afraid to speak up. Everytime she has said something mildly pro-D, she qualifies it with, ‘I know I’m going to get slammed on this, but…’

            • I’ve wondered this too. Sometimes it seems like she lets it slip that she has compassion for Jodi, but then goes right back on the attack a moment later.

              She confuses me and makes my head hurt!!! lol

          • They all need to go to group counseling with Alyce being the keynote speaker…might be they get some good out of it…otherwise they need to go one by one to her office for individual counseling…she might even have a nice soft couch for them to relax while they are in their session…

  105. Hey, Al & AA, I went to look up Sibley Hospital for Women that I had mentioned yesterday, and now all I can find is the huge Sibley Memorial Hospital in NW. I could swear I used to drive by it when I was in the area, and that was the name of it. I never went there myself. I will check with some others I know in the area also. I’m so confused!

  106. I have a question I f the jury chooses to discredit Jodi’s testimony for whatever reason did the prosecution still need to prove that it was not self defense beyond a reasonable doubt or its enough for the prosecution to discredit her testimony

    • IMO it’s the testimony of the Medical Examiner that needs to be thrown out. He lied and said that the bullet passed through the brain, when his own medical report reported the dura mater intact for FIVE YEARS. Then he says “well, just a typo.”

      Uh huh… Right.

      • MB did you read what PJ said I take offense to it and I don’t attack anyone but that made be see red

  107. HLN never got the verdict they wanted in the Casey Anthony trial, so now they’re using Jodi Arias as a scapegoat. They want a guilty verdict to replace the not guilty verdict that Casey got. From the beginning they never cared what the evidence or facts were. They should be ashamed. I don’t know how they live with themselves!

    • HLN to me represents the worst of what television and media has to offer
      It’s literally not something I would want to feed my brain with.
      Literally dumb downed for a dumb downed society
      it’s like the new Jerry Springer if you catch me

    • I feel that way too, they keep saying they don’t want this to end up like the Casey Anthony trial! That’s so wrong. Jodi shouldn’t have to pay for the Casey Anthony verdict and who did and didn’t like it. This is a completely different person.

    • Tonya….

      I agree with you. I posted to PJ too.

      Don’t go away upset. PLEASE remember from whence it comes…….

      WE LOVE YOU ((((((((((((((TONYA)))))))))))))))))))))))

      • OK but I need a break

        The Three of Cups represents community and groups of people coming together to focus on a common goal for the greater good of others. You may find that by reaching out to others and banding together, you can achieve a huge amount in terms of sharing your positive energy and passion with others, benefiting the wider community. It is a sign that you should seek out other people to celebrate your successes along with you.

        • PJ DID NOT want us to talk about Dan Freeman or the Hughes That statement sent me into nuts ville see red ready to hit something

          • Exactly . . like take them out of the equasion when they very well be who should be in jail . . caught that too

          • makes me made that they go on TV and fill in untruths about what happened if was started the day of the 911 call and it has continued and when I read what the Hughes did released some of the emails but not all of it what the hell are they hiding…

          • Freedom of speech, Tonya, we’ll say whatever we want about the Hughs and co.
            HUGHES blah blah blah HUGHES blah blah blah HUGHES blah blah HUGHES bleckh!

          • yes it is above in two parts it talks about us and about jodi if you have find it look for the 3 of cups

            • This is the night of her prayers service too!! Wow that’s so cool it talks about people coming together. She twittered about her prayer service and I think it’s on her facebook page.

  110. OK….

    For all those who can read this post….

    CONGRATULATIONS!!!! You have passed Duhmented’s reading test!!!!

    With everyone’s emotions at the volcano stage – with the verdict being deliberated….I think we all need to take a step back and REMEMBER why we are all here. We are here to SUPPORT each other – not nitpick every little word we each say or how we say it. We need to remember everyone is on high alert and emotions and people’s feelings are extremely sensitive right now.

    We need to refocus so that ONLY GOOD vibes can get through. There is truly ENOUGH hatred out there to circle the world – we are all so much better than that.

    I truly adore you all. If I have ever offended anyone with anything I may have posted, I am sorry. It was never my intention.

    • same for me Janeen…I have a tendency to love and care too much for people…and that is one of the reason that I don’t understand where all that hatred comes from out there from those hater sites…

      I can’t help but feel like it all this happened to one of the hater’s loved ones…..like their child, sister, brother, mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, aunt and uncle…their attitude would be entirely different…and hopefully they wouldn’t be showing so much hate toward their loved ones and family in a similar situation…

    • “I truly adore you all. If I have ever offended anyone with anything I may have posted, I am sorry. It was never my intention.”

      Never ever have you ever offended me! If anything, you’ve made me laugh ’til my sides hurt!

      Plus, when we name call…we are creative and Hi-la-rious!! lol

    • YES YES YES!!!!!

      W are here for JODI!

      Thoughts TRAVEL, this is why we

      ONLY NEED POSITIVE ONES! 🙂

  111. I think everyone is getting a little tense with anyone who sounds ‘iffy’ since it’s drawing to a close. I don’t want to be Pollyanna-ish about the outcome either because it will be like a gut punch if they come down with M1. I think the testimony and the text and audio evidence proves more than just that TA was not a virgin. He was an aggressive, manipulative, hypocrite. Still not saying he deserved to die for that but his perpetrating an all out attack on Jodi seems more likely knowing those things about his character. And Jodi deserved to defend herself by any means necessary. I know it seems like overkill but I believe she didn’t know when to stop or when the danger was over. If everyone else believes different that’s fine by me but this site is a safe haven for people who are on Jodi’s side. I don’t know who I would have talked to without it…maybe the walls. lol So thank you for that SJ, MB and everyone who is involved in keeping it running! And to all my like-minded commenting peeps! You know who you are.

    • (((((((((Gwen)))))))))) We got your back!!!! LOL LOL

      I often found myself talking to the walls….the doors…..the car…..the cats…….LOL LOL

      Sadly, I haven’t found one person in my “circle” of family and friends that agreed with my feelings about Jodi…both my kids though have done an about-face and come over to the “good” side and agree with me – finally…(after MUCH debate…)

      I can’t say enough how important this site and all of you are to me. 🙂

      • Janeen…some of my friends and I talk about the trial…and they feel that she is guilty…and when I keep asking them questions about why do they think that she is guilty…they finally admit that all they ever watch is HLN and Dr. Drew….and I told them that those are entertainment channels only and they spin and twist the truth so much that you really don’t get the truth of any topic they are discussing….

        Some of my friends agree with me and laugh because they like watching those two channels for the fun of the entertainment of it and they know that people get all bent out of shape as NG and her cohorts spew those exaggerated lies…but all in all they still watch HLN because they said that no one else is reporting the trial…

        Geesh…and that it the very reason that we are not close friends…LOL…

      • I’m sure some of my friends think I’m raving mad but I don’t care! The others all call and ask me how the trial is doing, they know it means so much to me.

    • Agreed you nailed it when you say
      GUT PUNCH!
      It will also be a GUT PUNCH on TA supporters side
      if the jurors comes back with M2, Manslaughter or Acquittal

      I like to look at both sides of the coin
      but in this case considering how “dirty” the other side of the coin
      has played..
      I would rather stay on this side.

    • SO funny to me. the song pick, the tweets, the commentary. LMAO.

      • just watched video and was pausing to read when it stopped on me very interesting read my post above too

  113. I went to the FB page entitled Jodie Arias Friends and Family.. its like I got sucker punched! I thought it was a Jodi supporter page!1 never never never in my 61 years have I seen people so full of hate for Jodi and her Family !! Don’t go there …

    I love the survivor tshirts! I have survived most things you can think of..even near death..and it was like a warm bright light beckoning me.. but I was pushed back because I was meant to live..and so is Jodi!

    at 6 I will be praying for Jodi and all abused and unfairly incarcerated..

    love

    • Pat, there are a lot of haters that got added to that page somehow. The admins are removing them. Normally it is a very nice page. 🙁

    • Ohh Pat, I did the same think, thought it was supporting Jodi.. till I was called a troll..

  114. Yes Janeen I’ve brought my girls around too. They may be faking but they know better than not to. lol Don’t have time at work to argue it as vehemently as I’d like but I do get in a few barbs whenever possible. It’s like my co-workers watch the HLN version and make up their minds according to Nance. Sad really. Bless their hearts! lol

    • I agree about the work thing….I can’t stand their obstinance about NOT wanting to even CONSIDER Jodi’s side….GRRRRRRR

      Even my partner who is in the military overseas – her and I just choose to “not speak about it”…..I am still holding out hope I can bring her around to our way of thinking when she comes home…LMAOOO

    • LOL Gwen . . are you from one of the Carolinas? If so I know “bless their hearts” . Friends here from South Carolina have tried to teach me rephrasing and the best I can do is “that’s nice”.

        • K ty . . well you’re southern . . no mistaking that via dialect . . love it

        • Ooooh your ACCENT!!! 😀

          When I stayed in Indiana, someone wanted to take me back to Tennessee with them–a guy who was playing pool with me! He was cute!

  115. Is it time for prayers for Jodi? Is it 6 in AZ now if it’s 9 in PA now? I know I’m a blonde (not natural but might as well be)

  117. “Fear, love, sex, lies and dirty little secrets” was a powerful opening – first word spoken Fear.
    “Build a house of cards, knock it down, and call Jodi a liar” – loved how it showed how much her testimony was proven by the evidence. Walking to the garbage can with the receipt in his hand showed just how easily so much of this so-called evidence wouldn’t exist if it was premeditated. The common sense approach to the crime and the scene was excellent and nothing was overdone. Men supposedly are the more logical thinkers so I hope this true as they are the majority. It makes me sleep better to read this page and see that all men do not think like VP and SJ.

    I don’t wear t-shirts, but I think it is a wonderful thing for Jodi to do, and I plan to send a donation to ALVs clinic with a thank you for her brave testimony in lieu of buying a shirt.

  118. I’m going to watch the song of Bernadette it makes me cry but I need a good cry right now and will pray for Jodi Hail Mary full of grace the lord is with you

      • Tonya, this quote is for you 🙂

        “Make the best use of what is in your power and take the rest as it happens.”

    • Hi Michelle, I tried to listen to Hughes interview, but I feel like it’s just going to be more of the same crap that’s been on HNL. Have you listened to it in its entirety? Anything new? About the only thing I want to hear out of the Hughes’ mouth is how they happened to gain possession of TA’s journals.

      • Its just very revealing about the emails.I never watch hln so I decided to hear him spew his B.S.This man is a really sick individual.

    • I listened to part of it, it is very long. My question is If Chris Hughes was in fear of his life just from a look on Jodi’s face that night she and TA were at his house. that they talked about bringing their children into the room with them, why can’t they imagine Jodi was in fear of her life on June 4?

      He brings up the question, Why weren’t they called to be witnesses? I thought the defense did want the hughes as witnesses the prosecutor fought to keep the emails out. He says if there was something in those emails that would have helped the defense they would have been called,

      So why did the state fight so hard to keep the emails out?

      • here we go again with the HUGHES blah blah blah blah blah blah this piece of shit of a man knew about Travis molesting kids you could see that in his reaction on the stand he was shaking sweating he knew he was going to get caught they asked shy about Travis spending the nite at there house I think Jodi recognized there voices the night Travis was attacked …. 🙄

      • Oh shar that’s exactly it.

        My betting is that the biased judge agreed that he couldn’t come back on the stand.

    • I tried listening to it, but ugh, and I wanted to but this woman, too? Sounded like more shit about to spew out of his mouth and I really couldn’t take any more from that scumbag, Hughes. He’s sick.

  121. Went over to the hater site to see what brainwashed shit was coming out of them, found this and LOVED IT!!! I
    Janet Wagner: There was no one to discredit Tra[sh]vis because he hid his dark side. …But it’s all in the light now playboy!… When he got to the point that his ‘hard’ life was losing importance to the real world, Little T no longer took all the blood from the head on his shoulders. So, his big head began to worry that the secrets about his little head would get out. No longer “obsessed” with sex alone, or maybe wanting to move on to those 12-year olds, he began trying to make Jodi out to be a stalker and such. All in a plan to discredit whatever she might reveal about his sick, perverted, deviant life. (Such as if he was found with a 12-year old [which I wonder if had already happened, given the fact he seemed to know the sound of “a 12-year old girl having her first orgasm”]). …The anxiety, built up from worry about being outed, must have been tremendous on the ‘choir’ boy. But, like most people living double lives, he was still on the fence. …Addictions come in many forms. …That tension, of still walking a wire, made him snap when Jodi dropped the camera. It isn’t the first time a man went into a rage over something so seemingly trivial. There is sometimes signs of a person going “postal”, but in the intimate framework of a relationship it is USUALLY only one person (the other half of that relationship) that is there when it happens. In this case, the straw that broke Travis’ back was the camera. And when he grabbed/slammed Jodi (despite the BS that the space was to small; wrestlers can attest to it being otherwise), she feared he was going to keep raging till he killed her (maybe he was doing steroids even)….This fear is developed over the time that a person is subjected to physical, mental, and verbal abuse. Such abuse causes a person to loose a sense of self. Lowers their sense of self worth even to the point of destroying it. Thus, when faced with danger, such as a full-on physical attack, the person BELIEVES that the attacker (abuser) views them just as they have been saying, as “worthless”. The abused person BELIEVES that the attacker will have no regret in killing them, because they are just an object to them anyway. …Also, those who say, “he didn’t have a double life, just a discreet sex life”, are infidels just like Travis. Travis portrayed himself to the Morman community as a devout member. Even if the only division lies between the church and normal everyday life, HE WAS LIVING AS IF IN TWO WORLDS, WITH TWO SEPARATE PERSONAS!! That IS a double life, for the idiots out there! He was an infidel, a heretic, and a deviant! And he was as much a lier a Jodi, if not more so! ….What amazes me is how so many “religious” and ‘non-religious’ people can be so BLIND! This guy, though portraying himself as such to the Mormans among him, was far from a Christian. He didn’t just have phone sex with Jodi, he abused and demeaned her. The kind of things he’d said to and about her are not NORMAL in phone sex or otherwise. He even sounded smug and pround when he said (something like), “You can seem down and I rape you and you seem to get better.” WTF?!! RAPE? Make her feel better?! SICK S.O.B.!!! And calling her, ANY WOMAN, “three-hole wonder” is something I have never heard a man call a woman! Especially a man professing faith in Christ!!! And a man who hides behind a church to make his peers and community think well of him, like a Borgia for lack of a better example (though perhaps a very good example!), is capable of more! A man who will be so devious and with such low standards as to treat another person like they are merely a sex-slave he bought in Bangkok, is NOT normal. Do you “condone or appreciate” sex trade on some level? You seem to think highly of a man that ‘enjoyed’ treating a woman in such a way! Shame on you! And shame on others like you! ….Whatever the 12 court-appointed-disciples of lord Alexander conclude, I find it a heresy that so many so-called Christians refuse to see him for the blasphemer that he was. Yes, blasphemer. Blasphemy is, for one thing, “the act of claiming the attributes of a deity although not actually possessing those attributes” (look it up). The day Travis went forward and ‘pretended’ he accepted Christ, he “claimed” Christianity. I guess he was mistaken, maybe just got his Bible and Playboy mixed up, when he thought Jesus had an avid and deviant sex life, or was ‘into’ treating a woman abusively in every way imaginable. Tra[sh]vis, quite apparently, had no qualm with taking communion (representing the body/blood of the deity he claimed) then going out to live like he was a citizen of Sodom. ….Well, Travis, your darkness is now in the light. Time to stand before THE judge.

    • Wow, no doubt that hater will not last long before being booted off the site.

    • Wow, just wow, it amazes me how others feel as I feel but are able to put it in words, much better than I. I post on here now and then but no one ever responds to me, I feel almost like I did in highschool, I was so shy no one paid me any attention, maybe thats why I gravitated to loud outgoing men? Maybe if I wrote as well as this person people would listen or respond but thank you for sharing this 🙂

      • I know exactly how you feel Kmea. I have ADD so I either ramble on, or I can’t find the words. I think we all contribute in our own ways. Just because we may not get a response doesn’t mean no one cares about our posts. I for one am familiar with you and your support, and I’m happy that you are here 🙂

      • kmea, you are absolutely part of this family!!

        Thank you for being here. =)

        ((((HUGS))))

  122. Yeah now that I have a migraine from the stress of not being able to log into the site….. What a horrible feelings, so I can only imagine what Jodi is feeling waiting for the verdict.

  123. ginger new there was a reason to watch the song of Bernette tonight and I’m going to go watch it again thank you for what you have said thank you for standing up for Jodi your kind words are felt

  124. My trip to the ER was a complete waste of more than 7 hours, as I expected. My heart rate was very elevated when I got there. They did an EKG and said everything was normal other than that. They gave me 2 bags of IV fluids, which brought down my heart rate a bit, for now. They ran their own labs but only did TSH and Total T4 and they came back exactly the same as the ones I got yesterday (run Friday) — low. They didn’t do T3. The doctor said she wouldn’t know what to do with that anyway. So then why was I sent to the ER in the first place because of a T3 over 800? The doctor gave me a note to stay off work until Wednesday and to follow up with my primary care (even though I don’t have one and am not going back to the jerk I saw on Friday). I’m $100 more in debt from going, have more bruises from blood draws and an IV, I’m hungry, tired and don’t have laundry done and it’s 11:40 p.m. on a Sunday night. So, that whole ER trip was a complete waste of time, just as I predicted it would be. And I’m no wiser on what to do. Ever feel like just giving up? That’s how I feel right now.

    • every one here lets pray that also abused will get better its possible that pray can help you when you are sick I pray a hail mary for you and an our father too hope that will work

        • your welcome going to go watch song of Bernadette again makes me cry but the story reminds me a lot of Jodi Jennifer Jones looks a little like her in the story she is told she is lying she has to endure being examined by the psychologist she is tormented by a nun no one believers her story now i know Jodi is not a saint like Bernadette but I want Bernadette to help Jodi out of this predicament and to get her to take to Mary the one she saw and for the her to talk to her son Jesus and for him to talk to God. I pray for a miracle to happen for Jodi I want to pray for all the sinners the hates that are out in numbers to nite wanting to put Jodi to death.

    • AA,

      Keep the faith. Have you ever gone to a cardiologist? Been diagnosed with anxiety?

      • I’ve never seen a cardiologist, no. I was diagnosed with chronic complex PTSD/anxiety a couple of years ago, yes.

    • AA, . see you’re having health problems and pray they get straightened out. For heart I take pine bark extract pellets and have no need for other medications now. Everyone I’ve introduced to it, their health has improved and they are off most the meds the doc put them on. Pycnogenol is the latin name .. look into it, they won’t hurt in any case.

      • CB you have a degree in holistic medicine? They are not regulated by the FDA and can be dangerous if you don’t know how to use them. I tried this with my heart disease.

        • No I’m a patient of a holistic doctor who quit being a pharmacist . FDA??? Not to sound flippant . . I don’t care about FDA, why should their approval be trusted?

      • Thanks cb, I would be glad to look into them. Can you get them at a health food store?

        • AA

          I believe you can get them at your health food market. I would also been looking into a cardiologist. When I had my massive heart attack three years ago it was missed in the ER, and then by three more doctors. It wasn’t until the four doctor on the second day who was a dear friend of mine that did angiogram and found out that my LAD was 90% blocked., two more weeks he said I would of been dead.

        • Read about and check testimonies just like anything else. I get them from Puritans Pride, their brand (pine bark) made in France . . 150 mg 1x a day. After reading, maybe your doctor would approve. i take no other meds and I feel great.

    • AWESOME….so true…and I just love what they put in the comments…

      [quote]any cyber bullies who post hate speech or other intimidation or threats will be included in detail to the cyber crimes division of Homeland Security and the Federal Bureau of Investigation…..Other than that, enjoy![quote]

    • Awesome video! I wish I knew how to make movies.

      It went a little fast for me. I never bothered to follow CH on twitter but it looks like a great summation of all the lies he told.

      • Me too. I have no idea how to do that and was thinking of learning.

      • I decided to watch it and then went back to read the tweets or what ever was written and it just stopped and thru me out and back to this site now that is what is called a coverup something stink in kkk land

  126. OH me too FUJuan! When I can’t log on I have an immediate panic attack! I was just waiting about an hour. Scary stuff 🙂

    • Panic attacks are the worse………. but thankfully we are back up and running. I know Jodi needs every prayer she can get tonight, and all day tomorrow.

      Pray the jury makes the right verdict tomorrow or Tuesday

  127. As promised, I gave my silent prayer for JODI at 6:00p.m.! And I also prayed that the jury would please use common sense and realize that ODI told the truth and that JM’s theories a nothing but fantastic lies to try and bolster his soon-to-be-over (we hope!) career. BIG HUGS TO JODI!!!!!! And a BIG group hug to Team JODI!!!!!:)

  128. Hi Everyone!! I’m feeling so upset 🙁 that I can’t be part of all that’s going on coz I’ve been so very busy, and my schedule just won’t let up. So anyway, I think what I’ll post may make some of you smile, I certainly did! This is from way back, and I thought it may do many of us good by reading all the panic and fear that erupted when the Jurors posed their questions to the Prosc team after they were done with their witnesses… It too long, so I’ve cut and pasted them in 9 parts (Admins if this is too long feel free to delete). I just took the pertinent parts from the transcript of one of NG’s shows. (Pay special attention to those parts that are in caps!).

    Part: – 1/9 –

    Reading through this transcript (that I’m going to cut and paste in parts coz its too long), seems to be appropriate for this stage of the trial that we are in – Jury Deliberations – The transcript is ironic and may end up going through a re-run in the next coming days (at least I hope so). I am hoping that the Jurors do not forget all the doubts they had about the Prosc, and give her an acquittal, despite KN suggesting at the end of his closing statement about manslaughter – esp. becoz of all the follies, lies, and manipulations from the other side. They want to send her to her death even if they have to commit perjury, manipulate evidence, and intimidate witnesses to do their bidding. Hope you enjoy it as I did!

    NANCY GRACE
    Aired January 17, 2013 – 20:00 ET
    Jodi Arias Prosecution Rests

    NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, Mesa, Arizona. They meet up on a work trip in Vegas and they fall hard. But when the flame burns out, they break up. She then moves 300 miles to try and get back together, to pursue him, even converting to Mormonism.

    But then 30-year-old Travis Alexander found slumped over dead in the shower of his five-bedroom home, shot, stabbed 29 times, violence so brutal, IT RESEMBLES A MOB HIT.

    And just hours after Arias stabs Travis to death there in the shower, she has sex contact with a brand-new boyfriend, literally, hopping on top of him while Travis`s body decomposing in a damp shower stall.

    Testimony reveals 27-year-old Arias has wild sex with Travis all day long, even photographing the sex, but then just minutes after the sex, slashes his throat ear to ear.

    Bombshell tonight: IS THE JURY SIDING WITH JODI ARIAS AS THE PROSECUTION RESTS ITS CASE?

    Straight to Beth Karas, legal correspondent, “In Session.” She`s been in the courtroom all day.

    Well, the state has rested its case. And you know, I don`t really take to it too kindly when defense attorneys talk on and on and on about overkill, overkill. Well, you cannot accuse the prosecution in this case of overkill.

    WHAT`S STUNNING ME RIGHT NOW, though, Beth Karas, not so much that the state has rested, but the QUESTIONS THAT THE JURY IS ASKING. Hit me.

    BETH KARAS, LEGAL CORRESPONDENT, “IN SESSION”: OK. First of all, Nancy, I entirely agree with you that Juan Martinez, the sole prosecutor in this case, did not overtry this case. Nobody can criticize him for that. He put on what he thinks he needed for premeditated murder, 20 witnesses, nine days.

    Now, the questions you`re talking about from the jury came to Detective Flores, the lead detective, yesterday, eight questions asking about whether they checked out the roommates, and did their alibis check out, did they find the gun and the knife, any knife sets in the house, did they have a knife missing, you know, seemed to be questioning the investigation. Why didn`t they do a comparison of fibers from these furry sandals that Travis Alexander had and tassels on the pillows? And some of these questions had already been answered in the evidence earlier in the case.

    GRACE: OK, really trying to get at those particular questions, Beth. THEY`RE VERY DISTURBING TO SEASONED TRIAL VETERANS LIKE MYSELF and all of the lawyers, including you, Beth, on the panel.

    Bonnie Druker, exactly what were the questions the jury asked, questions about the roommates, Travis Alexander`s roommates? Have you checked out their alibis? Were they investigated? Did you ever find the murder weapon? And the translation to that is, How do I know that it was Jodi Arias`s grandfather`s .25? Why couldn`t it belong to one of the roommates? A LOT OF VERY DISTURBING QUESTIONS.

    Hold on. THIS IS WHAT I DON`T WANT TO HAPPEN! Roll it, Drew.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: State of Florida versus Casey Marie Anthony. As to case number 2008, CF 15606-0, as to the charge of first degree murder, verdict as to count 1, WE THE JURY FIND THE DEFENDANT NOT GUILTY. So say we all. Dated at Orlando, Orange County, Florida, on this 5th day of July, 2011.

    GRACE: The tot mom jury renders a verdict of not guilty. The defense team promptly leaves the courthouse and goes to toast champagne in front of a window at a local bar. Let me just say the devil is dancing tonight!

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

  129. Part: – 2/9 –

    GRACE: Out to you, Matt Zarrell. I want to go with a fine-toothed comb, you and Bonnie — first with you, Matt — some of the questions that were asked by this jury.

    MATT ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: OK, Nancy. I`ll give you word for word because a lot of the focus is on the roommates. Here`s one question. “When you interviewed the roommates, was there any concern about Travis`s absence?” This was a question to Detective Flores, the lead detective. He said…

    GRACE: Wa-wait, wa-wait! (INAUDIBLE) there. When you interviewed the roommates, were they concerned about his absence? Is that correct?

    ZARRELL: Yes.

    GRACE: And what was the response?

    ZARRELL: He said, no, the roommates believed that Travis was in Mexico already. They didn`t know his schedule.

    GRACE: OK, continue.

    ZARRELL: The next question was, What about the alibi of the roommates? Detective Flores said one was working, the other was staying with his girlfriend at the girlfriend`s parents` home. They also asked, Was anyone else living in the house?

    GRACE: Wait! Wa-wait! Wa-wait! Wa-wait! Wa-wait! Alibi of the roommates — one working, the other was staying with his girlfriend at her parents` home.

    Bonnie Druker, did that cover all the roommates? Were there — was it just Travis and two other roommates?

    BONNIE DRUKER, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yes, that covered all the roommates, Nancy. Some other of the questions are, Any knives missing? There were no knives missing. Was a gun found? No gun found. They actually wanted to know if Travis Alexander`s old Beamer was checked, and that old Beamer was not checked, Nancy.

    GRACE: OK, let me go through those again. Were there any knives missing? Flores`s response was, No, there were no knives missing. I`m going to have to go to the lawyers to get an interpretation on that one.

    Was the gun used to kill Travis found in Arias`s possession? No. I know where this is going. What`s after that? Roll it, Drew. What was the next question? Why were the fibers found at the scene not sent out to compare them?

    OK, Beth, what are they talking about that? Why were the fibers found at the scene not sent out to compare them?

    KARAS: Well, it was particular fibers. The question had said specifically fibers on these little furry sandals, flip-flops which were in the middle of the master bedroom floor, and fibers from throw pillows, which they had little tassels on them. And there were some tassels loose, and it looked like some had blood on them. But the defense was trying to say that he was tying her up with rope, having sex with her earlier in the day. But these are little tiny pieces that are consistent with tassels. Anyway, the answer was, Not necessary.

    It sounds like some of these jurors are watching too much “csi” or someone has a law enforcement background or they`re not listening to the background because some of these questions had already been answered.

  130. I would love to get one of these shirts when they are done! Here is part of my story, a sort of ode to my current husband I wrote years ago after blogging on a site, very different than this, I do believe in the goodness I have found here all for a common goal, I just wish that Jodi had gotten away from her abuser before anything really bad happened the way that it did:

    I never believed that I deserved to be happy I think. I searched all of my life for my soulmate, soulmate – ha – people would say I found my soulmate and I would think, yeah right. You silly delusional person – there is no such thing. So, I went thru half of my life just settling, thinking well this is it. I have my beautiful smart children, what else do I need. I need to make them happy and give them whatever they want, if that means staying with a man that tried to kill my body and my soul, then so be it. It is what they wanted. So, for the first few years of my childrens life I stayed and stayed not realizing that by giving them the father they wanted I was taking away the mother that I could really be. Then I met Mark, an unlikely person, the wrong person in the most unlikely of places. But in Mark I found my soulmate, I knew from the very moment I looked into his eyes, I KNEW it. Isnt it crazy?? It is crazy – he couldnt be the one and this could NOT be the place or the time to find him. Turns out all you naysayers beware, there is such a thing as a soulmate and God will lead you to him or her in his own sweet time. I think he led me to mine just a little later than most because I was just NOT learning my lessons and sticking to them. I was NOT giving myself to him, no how no way but when I finally did, it finally happened. Mark helped to give my children their mother back to them and though life is certainly not perfect, it can still sometimes be scary – I now know who I am and I know that I am a good worthy loving person. Mark told me that God helped put two lost and lonely souls together at a time when we both needed it most.

    Mark is kind, sweet, sensitive and the funniest person I know. I still look at him sometimes and think, is he really MY husband. Oh there are some mean people who know nothing of him or of us that want to see us falter and fail. That is human nature I guess, it is more exciting to see someone fall than get up with a smile on their face. I am blabbing on and on – I can go on forever but I will add more later or not who knows why I added this now, oh, I know it is because this blog I write on and love, well some people on it are just so cynical or mean and they love to see people fail or get in trouble I think? It was bugging me so I just was thinking how lucky I am and how sad these people are that cant be happy for anyone and so must really be sad people, unhappy people that I shouldnt let bother me but that I should pray for them to find happiness and laughter too.

  131. Part: – 3/9 –
    GRACE: Out to Alexis Tereszcuk, senior reporter Radaronline.com, covering the case every single day. Alexis, I`m very, very concerned about the questions this jury is asking. It sounds as if they`re siding with arias.

    Didn`t they hear in opening statements by the defense that their defense is self-defense? That means that they admit — the defense admits Jodi Arias killed Travis Alexander. What am i missing?

    ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: You`re not missing anything, but it sounds like the jury might be missing something. The thing that they`re looking for is perhaps another suspect. Jodi has admitted — her defense has admitted she did it. So these questions are a little ridiculous.

    One thing that maybe it could possibly be is that there are only a few jurors that think this, so the rest of them got together and said, ok, you think that? Fine. We`re going to go back to this detective. We`re going to ask him. We`re going to have him prove again what he said, and that maybe the majority is doing this for just a couple of the minority jurors who were not listening to the evidence at all.

    GRACE: You know, I`m hoping that you are right. And that could very well be.

    Let me go back to you, Bonnie Druker. How are the questions asked? Now, when I was practicing law, the jury could ask questions. And I noticed that in some jurisdictions, the jurors will have to write it down, the foreperson, if they`ve even got one yet. But they will pass it to the bailiff. The bailiff will give it to the judge. The judge, if it`s not objectionable, like asking for hearsay or some other objection, will then ask the question.

    How are — explain to the viewers how this is working in the Arias trial.

    DRUKER: Yes, I mean, the jurors are writing it down, giving it to the bailiff. The bailiff is giving it to the judge, and the judge is bringing out the questions.

    What`s really interesting to note, nancy, is we`ve — you know, we`ve been here every single day. And usually, there`s maybe one question, two questions. But this was, like, eight or nine questions, which is pretty amazing if you think about it.

    GRACE: I mean, when you look at these questions — Did you check out the roommates` alibi — I GUESS FLORES NEARLY DID A BACKFLIP.

  132. Part: – 4/9 –
    We are taking your calls. Out to Sharon in North Carolina. Hi, Sharon. What`s your question?

    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Hi, Nancy. I have a question in that, especially if I was a juror, I would want to know, based on the fact of the friends that have come in of Travis`s that have said that he told them he was afraid of Jodi, that he was worried that something might happen to him, that she was stalking him — I would have concerns in the fact that he let her in his house. She was there for 15-some-odd hours. They slept. They had sex. They took pictures. Was he afraid of her?

    GRACE: You know, that`s an interesting question. Dr. Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst and author of “Deal Breakers,” you know, many a true word is spoken in jest. And you`ve got a lot now, I would say half a dozen of Travis`s friends, even father figures to him, stating that it was brought up more than once — maybe in a joking way, maybe in a serious way — that he was actually afraid of Jodi Arias, afraid to break up with Jodi Arias.

    BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST: Yes, Nancy, it`s true. But you and I know there are no perfect victims, right? THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT HE WAS AFRAID OF HER, BUT THEN HE SUSPENDED HIS JUDGMENT BECAUSE SHE SEDUCED HIM WITH SEX. You can have poor judgment and be the victim of homicide.

    AND THE FACT THAT THIS KEEPS BEING BROUGHT UP AGAIN AND AGAIN MEANS TO ME THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN`T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A VICTIM. WHEN YOU ARE A VICTIM, YOU LOSE YOUR ABILITY TO HAVE PERSPECTIVE, TO PROTECT YOURSELF, TO SEE HOW MALICIOUS ANOTHER PERSON CAN BE. VICTIMS OPEN THEIR DOORS TO PERPETRATORS. THAT`S WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A VICTIM!

    SO I THINK THAT THE PROSECUTION SHOULD HAVE PUT ON AN EXPERT WHO TALKS ABOUT BATTERED WIFE SYNDROME, BATTERED BOYFRIEND SYNDROME, STALKING VICTIMS, PEOPLE IN OUR SOCIETY WHO ARE VICTIMIZED AGAIN AND AGAIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE GROWN UP IN ENVIRONMENTS WHERE THEY DID NOT LEARN SELF- PROTECTION. AND WE KNOW THAT THAT WAS TRUE OF THE VICTIM IN THIS CASE. HE HAD AN IMPOVERISHED BACKGROUND.

    GRACE: Well, I`m just — Bethany, I`m just bowled over, dr. Bethany, that the jury is now asking, well, DID YOU CHECK OUT THE ALIBIS OF THE ROOMMATES? Hello? In the defense opening…

    MARSHALL: Nancy…

    GRACE: In the defense opening, Bethany, they tell the jury, we did it. We did it. But we did it in self-defense.

    MARSHALL: Nancy…

    GRACE: so why are they asking this?

    MARSHALL: THEY ARE NOT LISTENING! THEY HAVE A CERTAIN PARADIGM IN THEIR MIND, AND THE PARADIGM IS THAT A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS. IT MUST HAVE BEEN THE OTHER MALES IN THE HOUSEHOLD. AND THEY ARE STICKING TO THAT DOGMATIC BELIEF SYSTEM.

    GRACE: Well, let`s just see if they heard something different than we did. Take a listen to Jodi Arias herself.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: THERE`S NO WAY ANYONE ELSE COULD HAVE LEFT YOUR PALM PRINT IN BLOOD ON THAT WALL. NO WAY. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

    ARIAS: If I was going to ever try to kill somebody, I would use gloves. I have plenty of them.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody said you were — you know, you had planned this out perfectly. Maybe you were going there to just talk to him, have a good time with him. SOMETHING GOT OUT OF HAND.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    GRACE: Man, she`s convincing. She is convincing. And as I look at her crying and sobbing, I got to remind myself of Travis Alexander sliced from ear to ear.

  133. Part: – 5/9 –
    And tonight, WE GET AN INKLING THAT THE JURY IS SIDING WITH JODI ARIAS, THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING THAT HIS ROOMMATES KILLED HIM? They have been asking questions about, Do the roommates have alibis? Did you really check out the alibis? Did you find the weapon on her? In other words, HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WAS HER GRANDFATHER`S .25?

    GRACE: Unleash the lawyers, Kirby Clements, defense attorney, Atlanta, Mickey Sherman, defense attorney and author out of New York.

    Mickey Sherman, IT`S LIKE “ALICE IN WONDERLAND.” EVERYTHING`S UPSIDE- DOWN. THE JURY`S QUESTIONS, TO A FAULT, ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM, WERE DEFENSE-LEANING. THEY WERE ALL QUESTIONING THE DETECTIVE`S WORK, THE POLICE WORK.

    Did you find the weapon? Why didn`t you find the weapon? How do you know — suggesting how do you know it was the grandfather`s stolen weapon? Why didn`t you send off this fiber? Have you looked an the roommates` alibis?

    There`s more I haven`t gotten to yet, Mickey. THIS IS NOT GOING WELL, I`M TELLING YOU!

    MICKEY SHERMAN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: well, “well” is whatever the jury decides. But there`s two things going on here, Nancy, you got to understand. In the post-O.J. Simpson criminal justice world, there`s an inherent distrust by the jurors of many, many witnesses, whether they be law enforcement or not.

    And then you add to that what Beth Karas mentioned before, which is an enormous issue here, and that`s the “CSI” effect. The best shows, the most watched shows these days are “CSI-NCIS,” “Law & Order.” Everyone knows every episode.

    What the juries do often is forget about what the lawyers say, president, defense attorneys, and say, we`re going to crack this case because we know everything about ncis.

    GRACE: We`re going to crack this case. You know, Mickey?

    SHERMAN: It`s true.

    GRACE: I think you`re right. What about it, Kirby?

    KIRBY CLEMENTS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: i think he`s absolutely 100 percent right that jurors sometimes want to go off on their own investigation. THEY WANT TO SECOND GUESS THE POLICE.

    EVEN WHEN THE DEFENSE, AS IN THIS CASE, HAS ACTUALLY SAID, WE KILLED HIM, WHICH IS ASTONISHING TO ME — I MEAN, INDEPENDENT OF MY QUESTIONS OF THE DEFENSE. BUT WHEN THE DEFENDANT ADMITS TO KILLING THEM AND THE JURY STILL ASKS QUESTIONS LIKE THIS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PROSECUTION SHOULD BE ALARMED AND THE DEFENSE SHOULD BE — YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD FEEL PRETTY GOOD RIGHT NOW.

  134. Sorry that I messed up JODI’s name in my post. The damned keyboard to my computer is sticking and dropping letters for some reason?

  135. Part: – 6/9 –
    GRACE: Even in the wake of the defense attorney admitting up front in opening statements, somehow members of this jury seemingly are siding with Jodi Arias and CASTING DOUBT ON THE ROOMMATES of Travis Alexander.

    We are taking your calls. To Carole, Illinois. Hi, Carole. What`s your question?

    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, hi, Nancy. Thank you for taking my call. Since Jodi has clearly demonstrated what she`s capable of, why would anyone believe that she was afraid of Travis Alexander?

    And also, why would anyone believe those crocodile tears? She`s crying for herself because she knows the mess that she`s gotten herself into. She`s not crying from remorse, not from remorse. Do you think so? Thank you for taking my call.

    GRACE: Carole in Illinois — Carole in Illinois, thank you for calling. And I`m going to throw that question to someone that knows Jodi Arias better than all of us, Patrick Henry, former colleague of Jodi Arias, used to carpool with her, also knew Travis Alexander. Patrick, thank you for being with us.

    PATRICK HENRY, FORMER COLLEAGUE OF JODI ARIAS (via telephone): Hey, thanks very much, Nancy.

    GRACE: Patrick, what do you make of what`s happening in court today?

    HENRY: Oh, I don`t know if I can say it on air, but it`s a bunch of crock. I believe that she`s — she`s faking it all the way through. And she`s just trying to lean upon the sympathy of people that don`t think anymore.

    NANCY GRACE, HLN HOST: IN A STUNNING TURN OF EVENTS, SEEMINGLY, THE JURY IS SIDING WITH JODI ARIAS. QUESTIONING THE POLICE INVESTIGATION, QUESTIONING THE ALIBIS OF TRAVIS ALEXANDER`S ROOMMATES. QUESTIONING WHETHER THE GUN THAT KILLED TRAVIS ALEXANDER THAT SHOT HIM IN THE FACE WAS JODI`S GRANDPARENTS` WEAPON. WHERE DID THE KNIFE COME FROM? COULD IT HAVE BEEN SOMEBODY ELSE`S WEAPON?

    A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT HAS GOT TO HAVE STOPPED THE PROSECUTION IN ITS TRACKS.

    Back to you, Beth Karas, the stunning turn of events in court where the jury is questioning the roommates` alibis. Especially, aside from the roommates, the questions about the knife and the .25 caliber. What were their questions there? You know where that`s going, Beth.

    BETH KARAS, LEGAL CORRESPONDENT, IN SESSION: Right. You know, maybe they were wondering, hmm, could they — COULD ONE OF THE ROOMMATES HAVE HELPED HER? Maybe one of the roommates liked her and helped her. But really their alibis checked out. And the puzzle to a lot of us was, HOW DID THEY LIVE IN THAT HOUSE WITH A BODY DECOMPOSING because the friend said as soon as they walked in the front door downstairs, they could smell the decomposition.

    They didn`t know what it was. Well, you know, one of the roommates told me, this is Zack Billings, that he wasn`t even there until the day the body was found and he did notice it that day because he had been house sitting for his girlfriend now wife`s parents with her. The other roommate — I never talked to Enrique Cortez. He was at work the day of the killing, but, you know, they stayed in their rooms.

    Travis was in the back of the master bedroom, in the bathroom, with the door locked. So — BUT IT IS A LITTLE ODD THEY DIDN`T SMELL IT.

    • Zach Billings is lying again…he needs to refresh his memory of his own statement that he gave to Det. Flores on Monday, June 9, 2008…he needs to re-read his own statement in the Flores report and the Breakdown Detailed report which is a day by day account of what he and the other roommate plus their girlfriends were doing each day in Travis’ home…

      Zach returned to Travis’ house around 9 pm on Wednesday, June 4, 2008…he had just finished cleaning his girlfriend Mandy’s house that evening…and he has accountability of things that he did in Travis’ home on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday…read the report…

  136. Part: – 7/9 –

    I want to go out to Dr. Bill Manion, medical examiner joining me out of Philadelphia tonight.

    Dr. Manion, weigh in on what your theory is on the case.

    DR. BILL MANION, M.D., MEDICAL EXAMINER, BURLINGTON COUNTY, NJ: Well, I think the prosecution has done a good job. They haven`t overprosecuted unlike the Casey Anthony case which I think was overprosecuted.

    GRACE: Well, I don`t know be about that. Putting up a lot of witnesses that don`t hit the mark aren`t necessarily putting up too many witnesses. And I`ve never — you know, you got one swing at the ball, Dr. Manion. One.

    MANION: I understand.

    GRACE: IF THERE`S AN ACQUITTAL, YOU DON`T GET A DO-OVER. THIS IS — THIS IS IT. I always advocated as a prosecutor, you put everything in you can possibly put in. And then you don`t have any regrets.

    MANION: Well, I think the jury feels pressure, too, because it is a death penalty state and they want to make sure if they`re going to render a death penalty verdict that they explore every possible opportunity. And you`re right. “NCIS” has so many shows where you think one thing is going on and because of some type of fancy trace evidence or forensic evidence or some autopsy evidence —

    GRACE: OR KOOKY JUROR.

    (CROSSTALK)

    MANION: The whole case has turned around. So I guess that`s why they`re asking those questions. I agree with the earlier commentators.

    GRACE: Well, so what is your theory?

    MANION: But right now —

    GRACE: How do you think it went down, Doctor?

    MANION: I saw a photograph of him where he was described as being annoyed in the shower. And I think this was, you know, after they had many hours of sex and I think he may have said, you know, why don`t you leave? And he`s taking — she`s taking pictures of him and perhaps she — he didn`t like that and pushed her away or knocked the camera down and the next thing you know she exploded. So you know, hell hath no fury. So she —

    • Nancy Grace says: or Kooky Juror

      When Casey’s verdict was read…Nancy Grace shouted out into the airways that all of the jurors were uneducated…she bad mouthed them so bad….she got that hateful cyber bullying started with making fun of the jurors intelligence…I remember how awful and disgusting NG was that day…

  137. Part: – 8/9 –
    GRACE: Jodi Arias caught on tape and today a stunning turn of events as the jurors seemingly side with Arias` camp.

    Back out to you, Matt Zarrell. We also note that THEY QUESTIONED THE FINGERPRINT EXPERT. They asked, why was the towel not tested for bleach? Was there a wrist or neck strap on the camera in the washing machine? A lot of more questions to the fingerprint expert. Why?

    MATT ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE STAFFER, COVERING STORY: Well, Nancy, i don`t know where the jury is going with this because in addition to the fingerprint expert, THEY ALSO ASKED NUMEROUS QUESTIONS FOR RYAN BURNS INCLUDING TIME STAMPS ON HIS TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN HIM AND JODI ARIAS.

    GRACE: Let`s go back to the question that I was referring to, the question regarding the fingerprint expert.

    Out to you, Marc Harrold, former police officer, attorney and author of “Observations of White Noise.”

    Marc, they are questioning the techniques and what the fingerprint expert did. That`s not good.

    MARC HARROLD, FORMER OFFICER, ATLANTA PD, ATTORNEY, AUTHOR OF “OBSERVATIONS OF WHITE NOISE”: it`s not good at all. You know, the prosecution must just be baffled. This should be about her affirmative defense and they`ve got this big long break until January 29th to give whichever juror — a couple of jurors who were asking these questions to think about this.

    I think everybody is right. I think that they think they know something about these procedures. THEY THINK THEY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT FINGERPRINT, HOW TO COVER EVIDENCE. These questions baffled me. They came out of nowhere. And I’m really worried about that long break because — what`s the 29th that the trial resumes. That gives these jurors a lot of time to think about stuff and really come up with alternate theories that just aren`t relevant.

    Grace: unleash the lawyers, kirby clements, mickey sherman. Breaks in a trial only help the defense. They really do because now, by the time they come back, the state`s evidence is not going to be fresh in their minds, Mickey.

    MICKEY SHERMAN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, AUTHOR OF “HOW CAN YOU DEFEND THOSE PEOPLE?”: And they won`t be as shocked as they were from the photos and the videos. But you know what, if the worst thing you can say about these jurors is that they`re asking too many questions, that is not a bad thing in my book. I got to tell you. A WOMAN`S LIFE IS AT STAKE.

    GRACE: No, Mickey, I`m not concerned about asking a lot of questions. AND YES, A LIFE IS AT STAKE. IT`S TRAVIS ALEXANDER`S LIFE. ALL RIGHT?

    SHERMAN: HE`S NOT ON TRIAL. SHE IS.

    GRACE: yes, but this is about his life. And no, i don`t mind a lot of questions but when they are all suggesting that THE JURY IS NOT BUYING ANYTHING THAT THE STATE HAS TOLD THEM when right out front, the defense says, my client killed him.

    I mean, Kirby, they go on to say, was the knife used in this crime recovered at the scene? What surfaces did you print? Why didn`t you print — fingerprint all the surfaces? Very disturbing. THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE FINDING FAULT IN WHAT THE STATE DID.

    KIRBY CLEMENTS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, you know, Nancy, I — and not that I want to side with the state in this instance but I will have to say that those are disturbing questions, but you know what? At the end of the day, the defense is going to have to get over the hurdle of the fact that this man was shot and this man was stabbed AND THEY HAVE NOBODY ELSE THAT THEY`RE GOING TO BLAME FOR THIS.

    So at the end of the day, despite these questions that you have, I am loath to say as a defense attorney that I think the jury is pretty much going to end up saying all of these questions didn`t matter. They probably got —

    GRACE: I don`t see it with these questions. I mean, they`re asking, where was the knife? Where was the murder weapon? Why didn`t you recover the knife? This is not looking good. The jury seemingly siding with Jodi Arias.

  138. Part: – 9/9 –
    Out to the lines, Linda, Texas. Hi, Linda, what`s your question?

    LINDA, CALLER FROM TEXAS: Well, I`ll play the 13th juror. I`m thinking of her MySpace page, the candle, the witchcraft and a sacrifice, and THAT THERE IS ANOTHER PERSON IN THE INNER CIRCLE INVOLVED, and that`s going — that would be my reasonable doubt.

    GRACE: Wait, what`s your reasonable doubt?

    LINDA: Her practicing witchcraft with that candle and her MySpace, and her — even though she was lying during her interrogation, I THINK SOME OF IT MAY BE TRUE ABOUT ANOTHER PERSON BEING THERE WITH HER. And i think that it was a sacrifice.

    GRACE: You think that it was a —

    LINDA: a RITUAL SACRIFICE.

    GRACE: Wicca witch-type, like devil worship sacrifice?

    LINDA: Yes. Yes.

    GRACE: OK. Well, I can only say thank God in heaven that you`re not on the jury. OK. Thankfully this jury does not know about her witch MySpace posting.

    OK, I`m scared.

  139. For the ones who missed this little bit of discovery… “tie your hands to the bedframe”….

    When you click on the link below….go down to Mormon Sex Education…it is in the 14th paragraph about tie your hands to the bedframe…

    [quote]instruction they receive comes from either The Bishop’s General Handbook or the litany of pamphlets and instructional manuals pumped out by the LDS publishing arm… literally this is what the mormon church teaches them…

    This is what Travis and Jodi did with the rope that Wednesday, June 4th…no wonder Travis had ideas of tying hands to the bedframe…Travis would have known about rope typing being that he was being groomed to be a Bishop in the mormon church…the Bishop knows about this in order to give instructions to his church people who need to be disciplined in the sex department…

    After I read this article….I am more apt to believe now that Travis would have already had the rope and a knife or scissors already in his bedroom maybe taking the Bishop’s advice as stated in the instructional manual about tying the hands to the bedframe…

    Travis Alexander and Kip Eliason event of their lives sound similar…

    This story is about Kip Eliason…how he struggled to overcome masturbation starting at age 11 when his grandmother persuaded him to join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS)…Kip was an intelligent and sensitive young man, perhaps too sensitive….Kip’s mother died when he was six ears old and it had a profound affect on him. At times Kip was quiet and reflective, spending hours alone in his room, and yet he was outgoing by nature. Kip was a born leader. His classmates and teachers admired him for his friendly way and all-American good looks. Kip was truthful and possessed a farm-community naiveté.

    [quote]Today Kip’s story is one told more and more often in Mormon wardhouses. Behind the scenes the church and community mental-health agencies in Utah are quietly fighting a sex-related mental-health epidemic among Mormon men and women.[quote]

    Read more of the full story here at this link below…

    http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/sin_and_death_in_mormon_country.shtml

  140. Hope all those posts were not too much – just thought that maybe we can have some faith in those jurors to remember well, think through all that they saw and heard, and just do the right thing. Take care all you BRIGHT ones!! All your posts have kept me up reading instead of getting the sleep I desperately need. Like a good book, just can’t put my tablet down. Love it! So very proud of all of you. 🙂 Nite!

    • Just a tad to add to your post: AZCentral news still has their article where tas friends told ta about his abusiveness toward Jodi

  141. your welcome also abused going to go watch song of Bernadette again makes me cry but the story reminds me a lot of Jodi Jennifer Jones looks a little like her in the story she is told she is lying she has to endure being examined by the psychologist she is tormented by a nun no one believers her story now i know Jodi is not a saint like Bernadette but I want Bernadette to help Jodi out of this predicament and to get her to take to Mary the one she saw and for the her to talk to her son Jesus and for him to talk to God. I pray for a miracle to happen for Jodi I want to pray for all the sinners the hates that are out in numbers to nite wanting to put Jodi to death. sure need time from sitting to long worrying and this movie will make me sad but will uplift me if all goes well tomorrow …..

  142. Hope everyone is doing well tonight as we sit back tight with fingers crossed.

    May I suggest some of my favorite courtroom thrillers / dramas while we wait
    for the verdict?

    1. Witness For The Prosecution
    2. The Verdict
    3. 12 Angry Men
    4. The Accused
    5. A Cry In The Dark ( talk about scary witch hunt mob mentalities )
    6. Jagged Edge ( Glen Close as a defense attorney can we say YES? )
    7. Anatomy Of A Murder
    8. Peter Jackson produced West Of Memphis or the HBO Trilogy Paradise Lost
    9. Philadelphia
    10. Suspect

    Although Intolerable Cruelty isn’t a courtroom drama it has by far the funniest
    courtroom scene that I could honestly compare to the circus surreal fuckery
    that was inside the Maricopa County Courtroom headed by Judge Pickles
    if only this judge could have presided..

    Enjoy this clip everyone 🙂

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxQMT4R51Dk

    • Funny Josh . . I’m going to allow it, lol . . add To Kill a Mockingbird and A Time to Kill and A Few Good Men to your list . . good movies along with James Patterson (Alex Cross series), Patricia Cornwell and Sara Pretzky books to name just a few. Right now playing Angry Birds suffices for mindless entertainment.

      • Oh wow, yes! I’d add To Kill a Mockingbird to the list!! And for comedies, Legally Blond and My Cousin Vinny. Thanks for the list, JoshDavis. What a great idea! It could be days before we have the verdict!

        • Yess more good ones. there was another mocking Ito with Pauly Shore that reminded me there most likely will be a pickles one too. Let’s see, Cloris Leachman for her part? lol

          • Jury Duty! Pauly decided to go against the majority so that he could keep deliberations going and get the free jury perks…LOL.

    • thank you for the movie suggestions. I am going to watch Witness for the Prosecution as it’s the only one I could find on Netflix that I have not seen yet.

      I have the WM3 dvds because I followed that case very closely since day 1. I cried tears of joy when they were released.

      I’m watching Nurmi’s closing arguments. I missed the morning and part of the afternoon. Wow I love this guy more than ever!!

      • Yes Trixels.. WM3 was something else. They had the world behind them and that was awesome when they got released even if on the Alford plea. The court system them just would not admit they were wrong.

  143. Funny story ….

    Friday 911 received a call from a resident in an assisted living home close to where I live. When the police arrived the staff was shocked because no issues had been reported to any of the nurses etc. when the sherif went to the little old ladies room to address whatever this mystery emergency was she explained that she needed their option and thoughts on the Jodi Arias case and what they felt the outcome would ! Lol

    • Not sure. My family member works there and told my mom who called me b/c she knows I set on on a mission had hadn’t missed much of the trial. She though I’d get a kick out of it but she didn’t have ti e to get into much detail.

  144. Hello everybody…whos up? OMG what a looooong day it’s been. Now I gotta work tomorrow and miss more of this trial. I’ll be in training for 2 weeks! That means I’ll miss everythin LIVE!!! I’m not a happy meowy right now.

    • Hey there Tony! Not really…no celebration whatsoever. More like grocery shopping and hit the mall for a bit lol. How was yours? I’m still on Trial day 56 and it’s 10:19pm lol

      • Mine was good Meow! Had some good Mexicano comida mi amiga.:-) I hung a Mexican flag outside my home as well. I’m damn proud of my heritage and culture!

          • Thanks Aly! I’ll be have that Mexican flag out again on September 16th too and FUCK anyone who has a problem with it!!

  145. Greetings to Jody! I just ordered one of those cute shirts. Praying that the jurors make the right decision, and not the DP.

  146. Hi everyone,
    Just wanted to check in for a second. I’m really tired and have felt shitty for yet another day. Pain meds helped but made me groggy and blah. I took a nap and watched some movies, not much else. My mind is preoccupied. I read the posts here and just keep thinking tomorrow is Monday. Someone, I forget who, said that Friday they probably didn’t do much but elect the foreperson and set the schedule. I don’t know, but I can tell you that as a juror, the 1st thing we did after we picked our foreman, was take a quick vote. We were dying to talk about the case, at least to know a basic “where does everyone stand” type thing. Not to say it will stay that way, (ours did not)

    Anyway, I keep thinking we will know soon. Maybe its just ME, wanting it to be over, I don’t know. I think they will be fairly quick, it won’t be an all week thing. I want to say acquittal, but I would be a liar if I said I believed that. I am certain I will dream about this tonight, and will be on edge all day tomorrow, waiting to see if they return. Probably we all will be. I know this, I cannot get this involved again, I think Renee said something about not being able to post anymore, and I get it. I do. I started to post several times and I am overwhelmed. I think Gwen said something too, I can’t remember, about being Pollyannish and getting punched in the gut, and that hit home for me too.

    I’m going to take my sleeping pills, get to bed, and just wait like all of you. AA- please see a Dr that will do a full work-up. I think your job and the bull you are enduring is a big factor, but it sounds like other issues too. Maybe get a new primary care Dr and get a full blood work-up. If you have ativan..use it! It helps with stress, and at least stops the racing heart, I have xanax, same thing. Meanwhile, eat well, drink alot of water, and get rest…all obvious corny things to say, but seriously. I think this trial has gotten to some of us much more then we realize, at least it has for me, I shouldn’t speak for anyone else. I keep saying I don’t know what I will do if the verdict comes back as the pros wants, but in reality, it is a possibility, and we all know that. Anything is possible. I have gone on about this for a few days and finally my mom, the one who is always there when I’m a mess, reminded me, (again) that I can do nothing about it no matter what happens. True. I said before I thought I would freak out if it’s bad news, and I will, but then what? I have to survive, and so must we all. I am getting ready for the worst, and hoping and wishing for the best.

    Night all. xo

    • I have to agree with you Anna. Tuesday at the latest is when we’ll have a verdict.

      Do sleep well dear lady.:-)

    • Good night Anna….I think it’s better to expect the worse that way we can then say it’s better than I thought it would be. I really hope it’s a good turn out though. I feel so bad for Jodi during Nurmi’s closing arguments. She looks super stressed and sad.

    • Rest well Anna and everyone else…..keep only positive thoughts alive and well so that the energy generated by them may flow into the jury and help them to see the truth!:) JODI shall be free!!!!!!!!

  147. I’m really drunk!!…err…I mean tired. 😯

    So I’m off to bed! I don’t know if I’ll be around in the morning, but I will try to check in sometime to say hi.

    I’ll be praying for all of us and for dear Jodi.

    God Bless You All! …and I mean ALL OF YOU, you hear!? Even if you don’t believe…It won’t hurt. lol

  148. Hi Everyone
    And thanks for the good words.

    Intropective,
    Nancy can sure get her tail in a wringer when she thinks for one minute that someone will not
    get the death pentalty. How can someone wish death upon another when especially she likes to use the part of her boyfriends death.
    She doesn’t have a healthy mind.
    Something is desperately wrong with her and the talking heads that follow her are just as sick.

    Thanks for posting all of the transcripts.
    I hope that the jurors do remember about the roommates and also friends that went to Cancun, knowing that the had just heard about Travis before the left.

    The roommates, detective, prosecuter and friends are not to be trusted and like you I have so much doubt
    there’s no way that I could confict Jodi.
    I’ve gone over every charge and can’t help but believe Jodi was only defending herself.
    So many cases it’s the woman that dies.

    I can’t find myself finding her guilty of anything but trying to protect Travis,
    even after he’s dead.
    I have so many questions AND I can’t explain it except at times people will say that rhey’re guilty when they aren’t for MANY reasons.
    That’s why they have a trial, even if the person admits it.
    I hope Jodi get’s to go home soon.

    Good night everyone and pleasant and positive thoughts
    to Jodi!

  150. Morning ALL!!!
    Didn’t sleep well last night….worried for Jodi and her family.
    What time are they starting today?

    • Morning Jennifer! I’m just on my way to bed. Been a long night of drinking. Thinking too much about the jury. They should start at 9 but who knows, they are usually late.

  151. Just saw that Dior is meeting with lawyers and will b issuing Jodi a cease and desist notice regarding the drawing that looks like their art that she copyrighted , thoughts ?

      • Meh is right. It’s one freaking drawing; she’s not mass distributing it for profit. I would think that Dior has better things to do, like working on their next collections.

        • That is crazy. I do not know how many times during my school days that a teacher put up a work of art and told us to draw it. My gosh she did what many others do everyday!! I am so sick of the attacks on her…I am boycotting Dior products. What do you all think?? Think if we publically do that people will listen??

    • No thoughts at all. Not even worth discussing. We concentrate on the positives and leave the BS to everyone else.

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      • ditto mehs . did check their vigil thingy .. reporter says . . couple dozen people showed, one woman was disappointed about low turn out

        • well not to sound rude or callous
          but Travis wasn’t exactly a Saint..
          thats’ great they got together for a vigil
          but me feels it was a manipulated & desperate move
          hoping to catch the attention of the jurors

          Aren’t vigils usually held after a person dies or on the anniversary?

    • They probably wouldn’t have even known about it…had some television people called them…hmmm…they probably need the results for their next “Big Breaking News”…they dig in trash for their breaking stories….

  153. Good Morning everyone. Woke up with Jodi on the brain and started praying. Today is the day! We are team Jodi!!

    Now time to catch up with what’s been happening around here this weekend. 🙂

    • good morning Cindy hope you had a great weekend also!

      INSOMNIA was a BITCH last night!!!
      Too many thoughts running through my head
      a little bit of concern about Jodi but
      yeah it’s been a long week & okay weekend,

      looking forward
      to a great week ahead for me and all of us
      remember think positive 🙂

      • Insomnia must be wide spread…I did not sleep well at all. My daughter said she is NOT going to school today she wants to be here for the verdict…I told her when I get the news a verdict came in I will go get her at school. Oh by the way does anyone know where I can get a IPOD fixed. Yesterday my daughter had hers outside and it got thrown because some idiot posted the naked pictures of Jodi with her business showing and my daughter found it when looking for a picture of Jodi to use as the screen saver. The face plate is cracked but it still works so I just need to get that fixed.

  155. Folks,

    I had a sort of epiphanous thought that had been siting in the back of my mind for a few days, but finally surfaced.

    Is it possible this judge was actually pro-Jodi and her seeming pro-JM stance was a bit of over compensation. Here’s why I say this, and why the thoughts been brewing. It’s all in what happened in the last week of the trial.

    1. She allowed surrebuttal, but most importantly she allowed the testimony about the effect of a shot to the frontal lobe. That wasn’t new evidence, that had been around since Horn first testified.

    2. She allowed the manslaughter charge, but also issued the DV instruction.

    3. She issued the full DV instruction, which is normally only given in a DV case (that is where the defendant is being tried for DV). What this instruction does is define all the unlawful acts that can constitute DV. This is not required in a murder case, unless the defendant is charged with DV. This allowed Nurmi to clearly define what constituted DV on TA’s part.

    These three actions on her part totally changed the aspect of the trial in the last week.

    Just some food for thought.

    • yes food for thought indeed AL
      but I don’t know…her actions seem
      very biased towards pros
      & the fact that she did not take control of her
      kangaroo court makes me think otherwise..
      other then that you do have good valid points…
      it’s anyone’s guess at this point

    • Al I think she is thinking about appeals and trying her hardest to prevent that. So she is allowing in big areas that can be appealed however she missed a BIG one and that is the fact TAs family wore those ribbons everyday. I think juries need to be placed behind a wall so they can not see the spectators in the trial.

      • Jennifer…one of the courtroom insiders that was there almost every day posted on WB…she said that most of the courtroom was filled with TA supporters and they all got to wear those blue ribbons not just the family members…she said that TA sister gave them permission to wear them…and some even had to sit on the same side as JA family…so if I was a juror just glancing around the courtroom those little blue ribbons would just have about been everyone in the courtroom each and every day…

      • LOL I was like what the heck is Cindy talking about…What is she eating?? BLONDE moment!!! LOL

    • I tend to agree with your comments, AL. I thought the same thing – that was a victory for the Defense to get the Manslaughter and DV options in. I was really, really surprised at the DV one. I also agree about Dr Geffner’s head wound testimony coming in as well. All definitely good for the Defense.

      It’s hard to peg this Judge, but I have thought that she may be more for Jodie than we think. The real truth will be revealed when, and if, it comes to the sentencing phase. If the Judge gets to handle the sentencing (other than M1), it will be telling what term she will hand down (maximum or minimum). I had originally been of the belief that she would sentence to the max term, but it’s just too hard to assume at this point. Anythings possible.

    • Totally agree. I’ve seen no bias from her. She read the jury questions the same way for both sides, she’s allowed many ‘speaking objections’ from the defense, she’s allowed JW to interupt when she was considering a JM objection and ruled in her favour. As for JM’s antics…I’ve seen them a thousand times from defense attorneys in other trials. Its unusual from a prosecutor but he just made himself look bad. He kept twisting what defense witnesses were saying and misquoting them but only once did the defense ask for the court stenographer to repeat a previous answer.The motion for mistials were fairly dealt with, there was no proof any juror saw JM fraternizing with the haters. The intimidating of Doc samuels by JM in the pre trial. Well, on the tape he played there wasn’t a single objection from the defense during it. The pro-prosecution juror number 5 was gotten rid of by the judge. A jury has never been sequested in Arizona for 80 years, hardly biased not to do so this time.
      She also seemed extremely attentive during Nurmi’s brilliant summing up, the most alert I’ve ever seen. her. I bet she totally agreed with it.

  156. I wanted to take a few minutes to ask everyone to pray for Hayley from AUS. She told us all on here a couple days ago about the horror that she lives. I had SJ give her my email and I got one from her this am. I do not want to say what she confided in me in the email but I will say it is a lot worse then what she posted. PLEASE pray for her. Also if there is anyone on here who is from Aus. please let me know what kind of resources are available in Aus for victims of abuse. I have offered my home to her however I am in the states and am not rich by far so I need to get an open ended ticket for her to use when she is ready to leave. The email made me cry so very hard…no one should have to live the way she does.

    • I agree Jennifer. If we have anyone in Australia, let’s see what we can do to help Hayley. There’s always a way.

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      • SJ Thank you. I cried so hard while reading what she goes through. I really want to get her out of there. I think she needs to get as far away as possible. So please if anyone can help me to get the resources to get her out let me or SJ know. I am not rich but I will do whatever it takes to get her out of that house!!

  158. Does anyone know who the guy is sitting behind and between the sisters? I have been noticing him while I was catching up on what I had missed. He seems to like the camera and even did a slight pose for it at one time. Someone should have advised him to bring a snack so he didn’t have to eat his fingernails, yukk. Notice in this video at 2:45 what Nurmi is saying and then take note to his reaction. Now it may not have anything to do with what N is saying but just found it quite odd and somewhat eerie http://youtu.be/sj8mtJiSTHw

  159. Had trouble getting on the site again, but I finally made it! I have a good feeling that the jury will come back with a not guilty verdict sometime this week. (Also said and felt the same way about Casey Anthony—and we all know what happened there! 🙂 ) Loved the pics! LMAO!!!! BIG UPS TO TEAM JODI!!!! AND HUGE HUGS FOR JODI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

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