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Surrebuttal Witness Update

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According to the latest updates on the Maricopa County website, the defense have filed a motion for the addition of brain injury & incapacitation testimony from surrebuttal witness Dr. Robert Geffner… basically to highlight all the BS & glaring errors from the testimony of  Dr “Doolittle” Horn, the ME.

I was gonna say Dr. Robert Geffner would finally sink the prosecutions’ ship – but then I remembered that  their ship sank without a trace many months back. Apparently, it was overloaded with way too much BS when it set sail, and it just couldn’t stay the course.

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          • I would like to know when this judge will make TA sister STOP with the eye rolling! I am so sick of seeing it in the courthouse where she KNOWS the jury is watching her! She’s a “cop” right? She KNOWS better! Do it OUTSIDE AWAY from the jury! She sure wasn’t rolling her eyes when TA was TRASH talking now was she!!!! AAaaaaagh! You CAN’T unring a flippin bell, and she is doing EVERYTHING with the “tears”, and drama to make sure the jury see’s her!

          • If there was ever a time to have “super powers” from a movie, that dinner would be it.

            What powers? oh, i’ll tell yah….

            I would wish for the “talking powers” of Hannibal Lecter from Silence of the lambs. I know most wouldnt think this could come in handy, but i can think of nothing more fitting than to talk to Martinez in the same manor as Dr. Lector did to his cell neighbor, in the movie. (if you have not seen the movie or remember the scene…Lector “suggests” that his neighbor eat his own tounge and die, after her jerked off to clarise (sp?), which of course the neighbor does)

      • hiya joujoubaby! i`m just getting caught up on yesterday and i just saw that you aren`t jewish. i totally thought you were. that would be the cutest name for a hot jewish woman! maybe you could convert. just to match the name. i think i would but i tend to make commitments for all the wrong reasons.

        • I’ve been mistaken for being Jewish a lot. Until it’s time to eat. Then my goy starts showing.

    • Where is geevees? This site is too hard for me to navigate 🙂
      I asked her some questions on her photobucket 🙂

    • All eyes this week. Jodi girl needs strength and courage. Focus on channeling good energies to her and the jury. Jennifer is a super star female atty. What a journey to be a part of. Jodi be strong! I see a good outcome.

    • I just posted some interesting info re Randolph Beasley on yesterday’s page (next to last post) He is one of the forensic experts that was on Dr Dred last night. Please read the post re his connection to PPL (Legal Shield).

  4. so we have two potential surrebuttal witnesses now. i`m more confident than ever that this will turn out well for jodi. we have to make sure we take care of her when she is released. where i live there are a lot of eagles. with everyone i see i tell them to fly for jodis freedom. she will be free! she has to be.

    • I am wondering if Dr. Geffner is being asked to speak to the bullet wound as well as rebut Dr. DeMented’s testimony. His cv says he is neuropsychologist.

      I recall that Dr DeMented sorta made a big deal about being “a member of THE largest Psychological Assoc.”

      I had to smile when I read that Dr. Geffner is the most recent past president OF THAT Psychological Assoc. 🙂

      • Not true. Dr. Geffner is not a past president of the American Psychological Association. Dr. Geffner is a Past President of the Trauma Psychology Division of the American Psychological Association (APA). At last count there were 54 divisions of the APA.

      • You know what the best part about Dr. Geffner having been the last President of the fancy schmancy Psychological Association that Dr. DeMarte currently is a member of? Well, there’s a couple of them….

        1. Dr. DeMarte was obviously quite proud of her membership with that group. This means, she would hold the superior members, such as a President for example, in the highest regard. Which, means, it would be unlikely that she would have the audacity to dispute any of his findings. It’s just too damn bad he’s only testifying to the functionality after a head shot. If he would be able to testify to Jodi’s mental state she would have this in the bag.

        2. This is an extension of sorts to the part about him testifying about Jodi’s state of mind, but, no matter what he does testify to, I don’t think the haters will be nearly as successful in discrediting him as they were with Samuels and LaViolette. If, for no other reason, but there can’t be 3 farking expert witnesses who are all quacks despite the half of a century’s worth of experience between them all.

        I wish I had a wizard’s wand.
        I’d wave it all over, from sea to sea.
        In a voice that was sing song,
        I’d get rid of ignorance and hypocrisy.

        • “I wish I had a wizard’s wand.
          I’d wave it all over, from sea to sea.
          In a voice that was sing song,
          I’d get rid of ignorance and hypocrisy.”

          I wish the same Krystal.

    • Yes, I think I am smelling a little gun powder all ready! Undoubtedly, Kermit will try to intimidate and undermine
      the up coming testimony but there is not much he can say re Dr. Geffner’s credentials.

      Can’t wait until tomorrow.

      • I suspect that he will attack his credibility by referring to old court cases that have been brought up in so-called “reviews” of his books on Amazon.com. These did not appear until he was suggested as a surrebuttal witness.

  6. Good morning lovely people! I haven’t been able to catch up on all the posts since yesterday, but I’m working on it. Stupid work gets in the way. 🙁

    Anyhow, I’ve been praying and thinking about Jodi and I also have been praying for us and SJ, MB, JC and the whole Team Jodi. I know some of you are not religious, but so what. I’m sending you positive vibes so just click “accept” darn it! lol

    I know some of us are a little stressed right now, but I have a feeling that everything is going to be alright.

    Oh, and congrats joujoubaby! <3

  7. This is the best news that we’ve heard yet !! Yes, bring on both these surrebuttal witnesses for Jodie. Tomorrow isn’t soon enough !!

  8. Hi all. New poster here, waving a white flag! I’m a “friendly”, I promise! I’ve been reading your comments here for several weeks, but every time I’ve thought to ask a question or make a comment, I read a bit further and someone’s already made my comment or answered my question!

    I can’t find an answer to the question I’ve been investigating the last few days, and I am hoping someone here knows the answer. Does anyone know if, when, or by whom there was actual WITNESS testimony about the burglary at Jodi’s grand-parents’? I’ve looked all through the archived videos of the State’s Case in Chief, and I can’t seem to find where there was a WITNESS who testified to it. All I can find are the video clips from Jodi’s interrogations, where Flores confronts her about the gun stolen from her grandparents.

    If there was no actual witness testimony, can the defense team petition the judge to instruct the jury to ignore all references to any ‘stolen gun’, since the state never produced evidence of it? Same for the ‘stalking’ references that JM managed to sneak in.

    I remember Belvin Perry telling the jury to disregard Baez’ assertion that Casey was molested by her father, because Baez had not produced evidence to support that claim. Same principle should apply here, right? (unless y’all know who testified to the stolen gun)

    • There was a Yreka police officer who testified to the burglary. The video for that testimony is nowhere to be found. I’ve often wondered if it was one of the times the video feed got lost.

      But it was testified to and his incident report is in the record.

      • Thanks, Al, for your prompt reply. I can’t imagine what video gap that fell into. I did see testimony of the detective from Siskiyou CSO, but he only testified about the search warrant on July 15 and making a line-up card to show the rental car guy.

        I was slogging though all of Flores’ testimony, thinking it might have come in that way (side note, it’s really amazing how often that detective says “I don’t know” and “I don’t remember”). There was once when Nurmi had him on cross, and referred back to “a conversation we had the other day”, and the video of THAT conversation is also nowhere to be found.

        Oh well. Thought I was onto something!

      • If the officers’ report is in evidence, would that mean that the jury will see that Jodi had brown hair?
        I thought he wrote it down about her hair colour.

    • Day 5 of the trial has the officer from siskiyou county and he is the one that investigated the robbery from the grandparents house

      • Thanks, Debbie, but Nathan Mendez didn’t testify about the burglary. He mostly testified about the items recovered in the search warrant the day Jodi was arrested. Nothing about the stolen gun.

        • You are right so very sorry I watched it again. I know that the testimony of the grandparents gun was in the first few days of trial. Martinez even questioned the pictures they had .

          • I wonder why the DT doesnt point that out in the report about her hair color just to squash JM.

  9. A little off topic – but, if anyone has time this morning, turn on the Florida VS Zimmerman hearings that are on live right now. WOW, this Judge and the Courtoom gallery is a stark contrast to the ass circus in Arizona. The Judge has total control and the gallery is very well behaved and respectful. Exact opposite of what we’ve been watching the last few months. Just wanted to point that out.

      • Bystander I am watching the hearing for Zimmerman. It seems that the state not giving evidence to the defense runs rampant. They too are complaining about not receiving evidence, much the same as JA case and CA case.

    • ass circus. lol

      Thanks Bystander. I agree with Tony too, different trial same BS.

      On another note, I wonder if Judge Stephens decided to wrap this one up at the behest of HLN who wants to slot the Zimmerman trial in right afterward in their programming schedule.

      Like I said, HLN shouldn’t be complaining about the bill AZ has racked up – they should be helping to pay it. God knows they’ve made plenty of money off of it to do so.

  10. I’m not so sure there is a second surrebuttal witness. I read it as additional testimony from the same witness. I could be wrong.

    “NOTE: NOTICE OF ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY RE: SURREBUTTAL WITNESS”

      • Yes, you may be right! No doubt we’ll find out soon enough. So long as Dr Doolittle’s BS gets hung out to dry, one way or the other, that’s the main thing.

        SJ
        Team Jodi

  11. Good morning everyone. I’ll be popping in throughout the day, but I’m trying to get a TON of work done on top of having a sinus infection! 🙁
    I hope everyone has a wonderful day!

  12. Kitty, I have the same question that you do — I’m thinking there are not two witnesses, but one — Dr. Geffner. Since he is a neuropsychologist, I’m guessing he is the witness for both.

    Does anyone know the answer to this: Can a surrebutal witness ONLY address the specific points they are called to rebut? Geffner is an expert in the effects of domestic violence. Can he address those issues, or only the Borderline Personality Disorder? or, if approved, issues on the bullet?

    • Elaine,

      A surrebuttal witness can only reply to new evidence introduced during rebuttal. So, at least in my opinion, in theory there is no ground for Geffner or anyone to be able to testify to the ME’s bullet argument. That same issue arose during the state’s case in chief.

      However, should the judge, through an abundance of caution in a DP case, allow the testimony in then there are two ways the defense can get this in through Geffner. The first is based on the definition of neuropsychology as per the American Board of Practicing Psychologists

      “Clinical Neuropsychologists have specialized knowledge and training in the applied science of brain-behavior relationships. Clinical Neuropsychologists use this knowledge in the assessment, diagnosis, treatment, and rehabilitation of patients across the lifespan who have neurological, medical, developmental, or psychiatric conditions.

      The Clinical Neuropsychologist employs psychological, neurological, or physiological methods to evaluate patients’ cognitive and emotional strengths and weaknesses and relates these findings to normal and abnormal central nervous system functioning. ”

      or

      “Neuropsychology studies the structure and function of the brain as they relate to specific psychological processes and behaviors.”

      The other way is through AZ Rules 701 or 702, where the definition of opinion testimony is given.

      • Didn’t Willmott catch the ME out a few times, contradicting or hedging his earlier testimony? Could that, conceivably, be considered “new” testimony?

          • It seems to me that there were enough changes in MEs testimony to warrant some kind of rebuttal, and I believe Dr. G. will cover both.

            • When the ME was back on the stand last week, that was cause the Prosecutor called him back. That was rebuttal testimony, right? I think it was in response to Jodi’s testimony that the gunshot came first. So I thought sur-rebuttal was an option to his recent testimony ?

      • thank you for reading the tea leaves for us that don’t understand the legal system like you do. What a gift you have and it is really appreciated.

        • Absolutely!A lot of us rely on Al’s insight very often to make sense of the american legal system.

    • Actually, on second thought, there is one way. The judge can under certain circumstances allow either side to re-open their case in chief. This is normally reserved for newly discovered evidence, but is supposed to be very rare.

      • And after she already set the jury up with a “schedule” i would think it would be even harder for her to allow anything else that could alter her timeline.

        • What if the jurors have 100 questions?
          She can’t say, well I’ll only allow you 2, since she’s
          let them ask a ton of questions to other witnesses?
          Plus MY time is running out.

  14. Boy this whole bullet wound to the head thing seems to come around every few days and throw a real monkey wrench into my whole karmic well being.

    With all due respect to the defense team they really screwed the pooch on this one. Five days before the trial the state notified them that they were going to elicit testimony that the gunshot came last. I believe that, even though this has the impact of weakening JM’s premeditation argument somewhat he is going to use this juicy whopper as an aggravating factor for the DP. The weakening of course comes from the question that if she had planned this, and had a gun, why would she use a knife first?

    The chances of the defense getting this in on surrebuttal are slim, unless the judge is ready to grant the defense some extra leeway. This is not new evidence. The defense was notified of the state’s stance on this issue prior to trial and the ME testified to this in their case in chief. Furthermore the defense cross-examined him and Flores on this issue in the state’s case in chief. The defense has had ample opportunity to address this and should have.

    The real importance here is not so much in the sequence of the shot per se, but the fact that the defense had a golden opportunity to prove that this ME was full of it and lying. Now to a certain extent the change in Flores’ story already does that, but the impact of hitting the state with a sledge hammer would have been marvelous, and should have been taken.

    Anyway, I’m letting my pique on this issue get the better of me again, and there’s nothing new to say. But I hope they get the chance to let Geffner, or someone else testify to this.

    I really think what ended up happening here was that the defense set off to essentially save Jodi’s life. The self defense claim was essentially put up as a counter scenario, with the defense having very little confidence in its success. I think it was only as the trial unfolded that the defense realized that not only could they win on DP, but also on the whole thing with a likely verdict far below M1 with a possible chance (though slim) of an acquittal. This, I believe, caught them off guard. Why it should have escapes me, since they had all the evidence available to them for years.

    • I think that, as usual, your analysis is spot on. But the variable that I don’t think that the defense counted on was just how inept the prosecution would be. Part of the reason that we see the evidence as it is, is that JM has so effectively undermined his own case. I think that a trial is a lot like making a movie. You can have the script, and the casting done, and the producers and director hired, but you really never know whether it will gel or not until the editing is done…or even sometimes until it hits the theater. I think that you are right on the money that they underestimated the likelihood of their own success, but mainly because they did not predict that JM would keep fumbling the ball. Recall some of the strikes against them: Jodi blabbbed. A LOT. And offensively. Tauntingly even. They did not know that they would be able to put Jodi on the stand and thereby get a lot of the emails and such in through their experts. They could not have predicted how well Jodi would hold up on the stand. They would NEVER have guess that JM would make such an ass of himself while Jodi was on the stand. Their main expert got cancer in the middle of preparing for the case. Those are the variables that have “broken” in their favor. They still have the crime scene photos, the flaky stuff that Jodi did and continues to do.
      This case was overcharged. On that there is no debate. But overcharged cases get prosecuted and won every day in this country. Building a case isn’t like producing a work of art, or building a building where the make has a great deal of control over the materials and the pacing. They had to work with what they got, and I think that they have done a more than stellar job. Add to that, that they do something that many if not most skilled trial lawyers fail to do, and that is build a record for appeal. They’ve got enough record to make EMI jealous. To me, Willmott and Nurmi are the best money spent on this whole waste of a case.

      • I agree. But by the time the state was done they knew at least some of this. And they had 10 days to put stuff together before they started and all those days while their case was on.

        These guys are just competent enough attorneys. I don’t think either Jennifer or Nurmi would ever be classified as top notch. There is no Gerry Spence, F Lee Bailey, Roy Black, Barry Scheck, Mike Geragos, etc on this team.

        Those guys would have had this prosecution on the ropes just in the state’s case in chief.

    • Al, honestly i think the defense made a mistake too…but what was that mistake? I think they OVER estimated Juan.

      Really, not being sheeky here. I think they expected the state to make a much better case, and when they were not able to, i think THAT threw them off and thought “shit, we could hit a double, triple and POSSIBLY a home run”, when they started out wanting a “walk” and wishing for a base hit. They thought the pitcher was a major league starter but the pitcher turned out to be bush league bench player with alot of hype and no arm.

  15. Al, If they are able to get in surrebutal testimony on the bullet, would that give them the edge they should have taken all along, or is it too late for that?

    • They should have put this to rest a long time ago. The edge it would have given is cast a real shadow of over the credibility of the state’s case. I was begging and pleading for this as soon as the ME was done. I was even suggesting that the defense should have called the ME to the stand in their case and torn him a new one. I could not believe it when JM called him as a rebuttal witness, because I was sure the defense would have handed him his lunch then.

      But it’s never too late to take a witness down, and if they can now, it still has meaning. The problem is, even if allowed they are going to bring this in through a person who is not a medical doctor, a pathologist or an expert on gun shot injuries, and that will let JM argue that its not quite as damning. But, its a case of better late than never.

      Also depends on how they present it. I can still think of ways to do it and have it be very powerful.

      • Al-
        I am with you 100% on this issue. The sequence of the gun shot also goes to Jodi’s credibility, which by some of the juror’s questions continues to be an issue. I am hoping they can make the distinction that she lied only after the self defense killling, due to overwhelming fear, and that she isn’t a “liar” in general. I also would have loved to see the defense give the info about the gun shot to the jury on a silver platter and not ask them to rely on their own common sense that the ME is full of it, and lied on the stand. If I were a juror, I would want actual evidence presented to argue my case for not guilty by reason of self defense and to verify that Jodi’s account of saving her own life has plenty of direct evidence to support it.

        Any idea if we will know today if there is another expert to testify to this or if the Neuropshy Dr. will cover the info?

      • Al, I found the juror question to the ME which asked him what he thought the scenario could have been to allow Travis the mobility for the time of the attack, and his answer if the bullet had not passed through the brain makes me think at least one juror is doubting JMs theory of stab wound to the heart first, while he was sitting in the shower, even though the wound shows the infliction of it to be upward. Autopsy report reads there was no evidence of hemorrhage in the brain, qualified only by limited degree of decomposition.

  16. Good morning, folks!

    I have a ton of work to do, really want to clear my work load for the next couple days.

    I will be lurking.

    Just want to say that emotions are going to run wild for us all, and trolls shall come and try to stir up shit. We gotta stay tight as a until and not let any of this detract from what we are doing.

    Peace~ 😎

    • Morning hero…

      Thick as thieves…one day at a time my friend…sending my rope… 🙂

    • Hiya Renee! I’m here lurking too,job’s keeping me away,well till tomorrow!!
      Unfortunately you’re right on the haters,they’re gonna keep coming and bullying us even more the next weeks!

    • I can’t help but believe that several jurors are in doubt.
      I have a lot of questions.
      There’s no one that can make me think different.
      I’ve gone over the camera a mystery, the blood a mystery especially since there was a lot of it.
      I can’t believe that Zach and his girl friend didn’t smell anything awful.
      AND the other roommate.

      This was AZ in june. You have to run the AC pretty much to keep cool and the smell would be worse.

      For the ones that have ruled everyone out but Jodi, they made a BIG mistake.
      So I have faith that the jurors use common sense.
      I think most of the time they think it through, and in this case there is just too much doubt.

  17. Hey all….

    SJ, AL, Cindy J., joujou, Sil, Rachel, kitty, lara, Bystander, Debbie, Amy, Elaine, rb, Journee (WELCOME!) Toni/W, and of course ANYONE that has popped in after this is posted… 🙂

  19. Great Morning Everyone- I have been MIA for a few days taking advantage of the break from trial and pulling my life together:) I reluctantly tucked the laptop away, because I (like many) have put WAY too much on the back burner, but the last few days have REALLY put me back on track, and tomorrow, I’m ready to RUMBLE!!!!
    I’m so excited for the new witness and new testimony. Every time I think about it my stomach flip-flops!!

    I am so confident that Jodi will be free soon, and I am SO excited for her!!

    Thank GAWD I’m SO glad to be caught up so now I can catch up with you all, I miss this site so much when I am away!

    • I missed you Kmiller! And it sucks, because I have to go away today to take care of life. Ugh. Damn life.

      If any of you notice me posting too much today, please, bitchslap some sense into me so I dont fail college. thanks 🙄

      • And when family members want you to talk to them, when you are trying to catch up on the trial? I feel really guilty about that somedays…

  20. Just to follow up on the discussion about the gunshot wound … even if it’s too late for the defense to bring in another witness such as a medical examiner, I wonder if they can still make their point by talking about the inconsistencies in Flores and Horn’s testimony during closing arguments? Whether or not TA was was still able to move around and fight and get defensive wounds after the shot is SO crucial to the self-defense argument, and possibly the difference between M1, M2 or manslaughter. I have to agree with @Al and others who have said the same that the defense didn’t take advantage of the opportunity to present better testimony to show gunshot came first. Ugh! This bothers me!!

    • They should use the ME’s words against him. – TA couldn’t have held his head up in order to have been shot if it came last. They also need to point out the crime scene is consistent with gunshot near closet.

      • YEP!And they should definitely try to raise some reasonable doubt when it comes to the supposingly ‘dragging photo’.Martinez’ claim was unfounded,TA ‘s neck cannot have been slit at that point!

    • I don’t know this, but it may be that the neuropsychologist could have more info than an MD on this. He may know more about what the brain is capable of/what kind of activity is possible after this head injury.

  21. I don’t understand what the value is of rebutting testimony on Borderline Personality Disorder. I’m a social worker and psychotherapist. Jodi probably could meet diagnostic criteria for BPD, but it means nothing. She STILL has PTSD and amnesia. She still is innocent of pre-meditation. So if Geffner says she doesn’t have BPD, what will that do for the defense’s case??

    • Elaine,

      Since Dr. Geffner has expertise in domestic violence and trauma, he can probably reinforce the previous diagnosis of PTSD and BWS, as well as debunking the BPD diagnosis. I have read recently that some trauma experts see BWS and PTSD as overlapping or replacing BPD, so maybe Dr. Geffner will speak to that.

    • Elaine the rebuttal witness for the state, Dr Demarte, stated that Jodi did not have ptsd what she did have was bpd. The defence needs to rebut that theory.

      • Her own test, however, showed Jodi had an elevated PTSD score, which was even higher than Dr. Samuels’. The score was 77, which was above the so-called cutoff score.

        • I bet her score is even higher now after 4 and a half months of this case–the court is giving her legal abuse.

          • Dr. D, was stressing manipulation and anger as two of the signs of BPD which she diagnosed Jodi as having, which received very low score with the other psychologists’ testing. They need to rebut her attitude about the real experts, Dr. S. and ALV.

    • i`m guessing it could remove some of the stigma attached to bpd and speculation about jodis personality and possible actions. i don`t see the big deal with bpd. i love borderlines. no doubt some of my best friends are bpd. i was given the diagnosis myself. i think it`s bs and a diagnosis given to women who wont always take shit. all you need is to feel 6 out of the 9 points on one single day of your life really. if that day is the day you take the test well than…you have bpd. so stupid. it`s a tool used by assholes against women. period.

      • I agree 100% and to prove it I had the hubby dig out his DSM and answer a few Qs… sure enough, he had it too!

        It is a BULLSHIT Dx, IMHO

      • I agree lara, As I posted earlier, I have read some articles which state that many experts in trauma feel BPD should be eliminated in favor of a BWS and PTSD diagnosis.

      • Shared opinion here, Lara.
        It seems that many more women are diagnosed with these labels when they are suffering from stress or abuse, so that they get to blame it again on themselves, on their own personality, their own genes, where the only remedy would be drugs.

        • Already menopause has been labeled as some sort of disease that must be treated, and many women take drugs for normal monthly menses too. Unneeded hysterectomies and mastectomies. So now this. grrrrr

      • It would be good to remove some of the BPD stigma. But, I see it as usually indicative of abuse in childhood and often includes PTSD. It is NOT something that makes a person more violent. More likely, they are more suicidal — not homicidal. So I think the witness could clarify a lot of that — if Jodi DOES have BPD, it doesn’t matter one iota in terms of the murder charges.

      • Oh I totally agree lara. BPD is a real issue, but is used specifically against women who do not conform to what society expects them to do.

        I found this article enlightening:

        http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/stop-walking-eggshells/201104/borderline-personality-disorder-in-men-overlooked-misdiagnosed

        In a nutshell, it talks about how BPD is overdiagnosed in women, and ASPD is overdiagnosed in men, when both should be about 50/50. It talks about gender bias, but like you said it is “used as a tool by assholes against women.” Gosh ain’t that the truth!!

        • wow, i guess i had my own gender bias about bpd. i never thought about what it would be like for a man with that diagnosis. i never really thought of men getting the diagnosis at all because i have only heard of women with bpd. really enlightening article. thanks mb!

          • Your welcome, anytime! I don’t think you have gender bias at all. IMO the whole topic of BPD is usually slanted against women but the article has a lot of really good points.

      • Lara, BPD’s are always very cool people; exciting, impulsive & fun. Yes, they can drop off into the deep-end also. I have know guys with this diagnosis, not just women.

        I know I post late, so you may not see this, but I wanted to tell you that if a therapist diagnosed you with BPD, and you don’t feel it fits you or is helpful in better understanding yourself, than your best bet is to take the MMPI. The test is way less biased than an individual psychologist. It can give people insight into themselves. It can be a powerful tool for the individual when used with good intent by the tester. Insist on a copy of the report. It’s expensive tho if you don’t have insurance.

        • thanks s2u! i got the diagnosis from an asshat quack that didnt like me, about 12 years ago. i started seeing a good shrink after that and she rediagnosed me with ptsd. but that was 4 years later and i had the bpd used against me in a custody battle. i lost custody for 2 years until i could undo the damage of that asshat custody shrink. i now have full custody and am a single mom of 4 girls. the bpd thing is no longer a part of my daily battle but it still gets right under my skin. didnt you just KNOW they were going to find some way to through bpd at jodi. you could see it coming a mile away.

    • The problem with that quack diagnosing her as BPD is that Jodi had no history at all of any kind of mental disorder prior to her killing Travis.

      There is simply no evidence of any kind of mental illness on Jodi’s part. It was highly unethical for DeMarte to give her a diagnosis of BPD since there is no way whatsoever to show she had anything several years’ prior.

      The ONLY problems she developed were AFTER Travis’s killing and were as a result of trauma from having killed Travis. That is what Dr. Samuels focused on, and the only thing he COULD ethically focus on.

      All DeMarte’s unethical diagnosis did was fit it into the debunked “crazy stalker” narrative by JM.

    • My guess is he will focus on the fact that Jodi does have PTSD in his testimony. Samuels also diagnosed Jodi with the general NOS PD, so it shouldn’t be much of an issue, IMO. I hope they don’t spend too much time on the PD stuff, it’s not here nor there – all he should say maybe is that the tests show that Jodi is clearly not suffering from ASPD. Nothing else matters in the PD/Axis 2; she is not a sociopath/psychopath like all the haters have claimed.

  22. Just looked at the Superior Court docket. The State has now filed a “seventeenth notice of supplemental witnesses”. It was filed yesterday, the 29th. Does that mean that Kermit is asking to call more witnesses? It is on the docket for today.

  23. The ME should have never said gun shot came last. This will be the prosecutions downfall, Especially since he confirmed TA couldn’t have held his head up in order to have been shot. Although they can’t determine the exact path of the bullet ( which is why he also shouldn’t have stated TA couldn’t have functioned after this) the were able to determine it entered through the front of his head. The cause of death was also not the gun shot per autopsy. The prosecution has managed to botch the only real evidence the had because they were determined to prove murder 1. They should have never put that charge out there in my opinion. The evidence just does not support it and they are hoping that the jurors will dislike her enough to convict her on such flimsy evidence. JM should be kicking himself for his lack of self control when it came to the charges. The also should have never ended with the ME. Now it is fresh in the jurors mind that this doesn’t fit together nor tell a story of how the man died.

    If I was a juror I’m going murder 2. This is what the evidence shows me especially because the defense never called an expert to explain frame of mind regarding the overkill. The gas cans and hair color I can look past. Yes I think she lied about certain aspects regarding them but only because she and her team new JM was hanging his hat on those for pre-med. I think she felt she couldn’t give him that. I came to this site it because I thought she was totally innocent. I do feel her rights to a fair trial have been stomped on so many times it isn’t funny. I went into this wanting to make a decision based on what evidence and testimony was provided in court and nothing else. Just as the jury will be asked to do. There is no way I could even discuss M1 or consider it in deliberations. If there were jurors dead set on this I would probably be the reason for a hung jury.

    The defense should have also addressed how common that caliber gun may or may not be. When the MEmentioned he had dealt with 100’s of cases with the same caliber it got me thinking. The fact she was never investigating for the theft of the gun also stays with me. Nothing in this case is consistent or adds up.

    • She didn’t lie about her hair color. Her hair was brown months before her trip to AZ.

      I think your M2 call is going to be what the jury goes with. It’s just a feeling I have. Evidence of premeditation is just not there, but the jury won’t feel good about acquitting Jodi either.

      • Brenda, Kira

        I think the M2, though possible, is a little on the heavy side here. M2 as defined by AZ (and applicable to this case, so I’ve removed all the unborn child stuff out) says

        A person commits second degree murder if without premeditation:
        1. The person intentionally causes the death of another person; or
        2. Knowing that the person’s conduct will cause death or serious physical injury, the person causes the death of another person; or
        3. Under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life, the person recklessly engages in conduct that creates a grave risk of death and thereby causes the death of another person.

        That means you have to have intentionally done stuff that kills. A classic example of M2 is a drive by shooting with no particular target. Guy just opens up on a street and people die. Now as opposed to that you have the manslaughter charge

        A person commits manslaughter by:
        1. Recklessly causing the death of another person; or
        2. Committing second degree murder as defined in section 13-1104, subsection A upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion resulting from adequate provocation by the victim.

        The difference here is that in M2 the intent was to kill. In manslaughter the intent was not to kill, or if it was to kill, it was due to provocation by the victim. This is why I believe the manslaughter verdict, especially if the defense can get in the heat of passion sudden quarrel instruction is the more likely.

        The problem here is that if you buy M2, in this case, then you probably should buy M1. Whether its the gun or the knife that came first, if it was done with an intent to kill, and since there was one and only one target, and the target was known, you cannot buy M2 and not premeditation. Remember premeditation does not have to be some long thought out process. So if M2 is a valid verdict then the thought process has to be as follows, ” I am going to shoot/stab this person to kill him”. That has to be because M2 requires intent or “extreme indifference to human life, the person recklessly engages in conduct.” That second criteria applies to the drive by shooting situation. That forming of intent for M2 when there is only one person is the M1 criteria.

        This is probably also why JM is arguing against the shot coming first, since there could be some tangential argument that says she didn’t shoot him to kill, but to wound, and she missed. But that knife to the chest can only have one intention.

        Unless of course the M2 is just a lame ass compromise.

        • I agree with Al on this one. I think Manslaughter is the right verdict here. However, something tells me the Jury will be divided on the verdict. Not sure how they will compromise, if any.

        • Not to quibble, Al, but the case that the gunshot would have been fatal unto itself is unproved. But otherwise, I think that you are right. My prediction is that if they get the Manslaughter instruction in, that is how the jury will go. Otherwise I think that it is too close to call, and that anybody who thinks that he can predict what a specific jury will do belongs on Dr. Drew reading tea leaves and divining the will of spirits. The deal is, that if the verdict is for anything more severe than M2, the state is going to have one whale of an appeal on its hands.

          • And not for nothing but I also think that she has a good First Amendment claim that her art should be salable after a verdict because her career as an artist predated her notoriety as a defendant, the subject of her art is not related to the crime, and some other arguments that I have that are too boring to go into here now, but you get the idea.

          • Right, but a person wielding the gun could have believed their shot would be fatal, or in the alternative, the mere act of shooting someone can be considered a reckless disregard for human life.

        • Hi Al,

          That’s what I think, that M2 will be the lame-ass compromise. I agree that manslaughter is more fitting if the jury throws out self-defense altogether. It’s that damn throat slash that makes me think they’ll go as tough as possible without convicting on M1. Martinez’s whole case hinges on Jodi driving to AZ with intent to kill. I think the jury will view that as M1 but won’t be able to agree that JM made his case.

      • I so hope you’re wrong, Kira. I won’t be happy with anything more than heat of passion. I want Jodi aquitted. I wish I was on the jury..

        • I hope I’m wrong too!

          The hater sites are all predicting a quick M1 conviction. They’re overconfident just as they were with Casey.

        • Hi Al,

          That’s what I think, that M2 will be the lame-ass compromise. I agree that manslaughter is more fitting if the jury throws out self-defense altogether. It’s that damn throat slash that makes me think they’ll go as tough as possible without convicting on M1. Martinez’s whole case hinges on Jodi driving to AZ with intent to kill. I think the jury will view that as M1 but won’t be able to agree that JM made his case.

          • That throat wound has been the thorn in the defenses side since the very beginning. If it weren’t for that, this would be a very different case. Even if that wound was inflicted in self defense it gives the perception of going beyond the limit.

            However, as one very perceptive juror asked ALV, when you are in that fight mode, can you in fact stop shy. So someone on that jury is questioning even that issue and that is a good thing.

    • Remember until we see the defence closing argument, we are very much in the dark.

      I think they have a very strong argument on the crime scene.

      But who knows?

      • I think thy do also I just don’t know how much weight goes into closing arguments. They need to be very obvious and spell it out. Explain what reasonable doubt means and harp on those doubts. JM ‘s techniques are obnoxious on cross but might be very persuasive during closing arguments.

        • Closing arguments aren’t considered evidence. They aren’t supposed to be considered in the deliberations.

          All the closing arguments do is summarize each case for the jurors.

          • Exactly.

            Just like the opening statements. They do however set the mood for the jury as they start deliberating and tell them what to look for.

            Of course what almost all lawyers do is testify, and the other side objects, and the judge sustains (unless it is JM and this judge), but the cat is out of the bag.

          • It’s not for new evidence, but for summarizing/categorizing/refining existing evidence. I don’t think that they need new evidence to prove that it didn’t play out the way the prosecution claims. They just need to lay out how the existing evidence doesn’t jive w the prosecution’s claims. If they can show how it corroborates Jodi’s version of things, all the better for them. My prediction is that closing will be just like the rest of the trial. Defense will be clear, methodical, and maybe a little plodding. And the pros will be an epic FLAIL.

        • Brenda, most any lawyer will tell you that closing arguments are the most important part in any trial. That is why we all need to be looking forward to them. Since Wilmont did opening, Nurmi may do closing, but IMO Wilmont would be much more effective.

      • Also, they have to be sure beyond reasonable doubt that it wasn’t self-defence, and with the prosecution arguing such total bullshit, why should they settle for M2?

        I truly believe there was no overkill, I don’t know yet precisely what happened, but Jodi was in a state of total amnesia, defending herslef against repeated attacks from Travis.

        I think he attacked her maybe four times : once when he chased her after she dropped the camera, again after she shot him accidentally, then maybe he lunged at her after she ran through the closet a second time (that’s what we see in the 62 second photo), after he doubled back along the hallway, then who knows what happened after that. I think she probably tried to help him again, and then the final knife fight occurred.

        • The key thing to understand here is that in a state of amnesia, you very quickly forget what has just happened. Jodi would have forgotten what happened before at every stage after he says “FKYB”.

                • Of course : see my about page.

                  http://jodi-arias.wikispaces.com/About

                  That’s why I tackled the Daily Mail,

                  “Your complaint will now be passed to the Commission with a view to it making a ruling under the Code. We aim to be in touch with you with a decision within the next 50 days (35 working days).”

                  That was on 19th April.

              • Yes geebee2, what are your thoughts about how TA got into the shower? I’m stuck on that.

                • Well, she just dragged him in somehow. She was very strong, and when you are in “flight or fight” amazing feats of strength are not unusual.

                  I mean it’s not that impossible, is it?

                • Jodi was very angry at that point and time too. She must of had great strength in her for that slashing of the throat. She must have been filled with burning hate and rage.

                • Hi geebee2, I’m not convinced she would be strong enough to have dragged him into the shower, I’m thinking of the state she would have been in when reality hit. I still think someone else did it and the throat slashing, 5 days went by and others were in that house.
                  Had a look at your wiki page, geebee2, its very good.
                  I’m in North London 🙂

            • hi geebee…I love your posts…thanks for taking your time to post such informative information…thanks…

              Off topic: today I had a new client…we got to talking and he was telling me that 10 years ago he got mugged and robbed as he was opening his house door and the mugger hit him in the forehead with the butt of a 357 magnum gun and blood was squirting everywhere…He had so much loss of blood from the forehead injury…his forehead skin was literally hanging down he said…blood was everywhere…

              And some point of the scuffle the mugger apparently had shot him in the back of his head…he found out later at the hospital that a bullet went in one side and came out the other side…he said he had not realized that…

              I asked him if he was able to walk after the mugging…and he said yes…he said that he walked toward the street as the ambulance was arriving…

              He walked to the ambulance by himself…and when he got nearer to the ambulance the paramedics rushed over and assisted him onto the stretcher…at first…neither he nor the paramedics knew that he had actually been shot through the back of the head…

              He is ok today…other than the scars…no lasting side effects he said….

    • Just to take what you say about Travis not being able to hold his head up for a last gunshot wound one step further. If you look at the photo of Travis on the floor with Jodi’s leg next to him, his head is up. He could not be laying in that position with his throat cut from ear to ear all the way back to his spine. There is an immense amount of blood coming from the gunshot wound to his right temple that is covering his right shoulder and neck area. I believe this is after he charged Jodi and the gun went off. She has managed to get up but Travis is still down but is not dead or completely incapacitated in that photo. He manages to get up and go to the sink and spits up blood. By then Jodi has the knife and finishes him off after his next wave of attack.

      • Well that’s an interesting alternative…. I probably didn’t consider.

        I have the 62 second photo somewhere in the middle of events, which seems about right on timing.

        Also, it gives longer for the considerable amount of blood seen in the 62 second photo to form….

        What I do know is that Martinez account of the crime scene is total bullshit.

        Total nonsense in every way imaginable, forcing the evidence to fit his ridiculous theory.

    • I think someone here mentioned that someone could get a .25 on the street for about fifty bucks. That’s how common they are.

      It makes no sense for Jodi to steal her grandfather’s gun, an incident that can be associated with her after the fact, if she could get an unregistered gun so easily and for so little money.

      There’s also the issue about whether or not the bullet was a hollow point, ect.

      Now, just from my perspective, JM’s theory about the gunshot never held water with me. Simply because I’ve read one too many news stories about people surviving gunshot wounds to the head. The most extreme being a woman who emptied five bullets of a higher caliber gun into the face of an intruder, and he was able to get in his car and drive himself to the emergency room. JM would have me believing that a bullet entering the above the eyebrow and lodging in the cheek would be incapacitating, which is ridiculous. The path of the bullet would probably go through the sinus cavity, any damage to the brain would be negligent.

      • I agree MB,
        It doesn’t make any sense to me whatsover he would be stabbed
        and then shot.
        That’s crazy thinking.

        In fact the prosecuter had to have Flores back to change his story.
        IMO, perjury!

        And WHY would Jodi even think about trying to put him in the shower. She would have had to pull him in, WHICH, IMO she couldn’t and again why would she?
        Over a ledge? Just makes no sense.

  24. Looking at this I see

    Disposition Information
    Party Name ARSCode Description Crime Date Disposition Code Disposition Date
    Jodi Ann Arias 13-1105 (F1) MURDER 1ST DEGREE 6/4/2008
    Case Documents
    Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
    4/29/2013 LOW – List Of Witnesses/Exhibit/Evidence – Party (001) 4/30/2013
    NOTE: STATE’S SEVENTEENTH SUPPLEMENTAL LIST OF WITNESSES
    4/27/2013 NOT – Notice – Party (001) 4/29/2013
    NOTE: NOTICE OF ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY RE: SURREBUTTAL WITNESS

    which seems to imply extra testimony from an existing surrebuttal witness rather than a new surrebuttal witness.

  25. Im both excited that ,even with this new filing, we are reaching the end and worried because this case went in so many directions I know some more vitals are out there.

  26. Goodmorning everyone! I haven been posting much lately, I have family in town and cant be rude on my tablet all day, I just wanted to stop by and say HELLO to everyone. I WONT miss a day of the trial though.

    Can someone tell me if they’ll have the live feed for the hearing today? And when is the trial continuing?

    Thanks guys and have a GREAT rest of the day!!!

  27. Good Morning Everyone…..one day left to wait. I am on pins and needles. Hope everyone is doing well.

  28. I’m starting a new job tomorrow so there’s no way I will be able to listen to the feed like I could with my old job. Booooooo!

    How long do you think deliberations will take? I feel like it could go either way.

    • I think deliberations on this case could be very long. It seems, from the jury questions, that you have folks tending towards both sides of this case, some buying the state’s story and others the defense’s. That normally calls for a lot of wrangling in the jury room.

  29. Help!! Due to the fact that now I’m down two computers Can anybody tell me if there’s a link That I can use for my android phone to watch the trial on. I can’t use the link on this page thanks in advance
    .

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          • your welcome…

            I have friends who use android phones and they say this links works for them…when you click on the link it will have the rainbow colored tiles on the picture until closer to the time of trial…and then you can click on the android link right above the picture…

            They’ll put Jodi’s picture come up on the screen right before the trial starts…then they will change it to the state seal of Arizona…

            You can read wildaboutrial notes on the right side of the screen and he’ll let you know what they are doing in the courtroom until they actually air it for it to be viewed…

            When the trial starts….the state seal leaves and it starts immediately…sometimes if it freezes…just redo clicking on the link again…

      • Morning Tonya. Yup My laptop want two weeks ago. The air is it can’t find my hard drive. So I put my desk top up and it was working fine I decided to turn it off instead of in the sleep mode the next day I got nothing. My desktop Had so much security on at Nothing to get through I had to do a
        lot of updates due to the fact that I haven’t used it in a year. just tellin yah something weird is going on.

        • My computer has been acting up too. Which sucks, its a 3000 dollar machine I am leasing from college for 450 bucks a semester.

          I have had my FB shut down, my email is being flooded with spam, my other FB has been hacked to hell and back.

          I run malware bytes multiple times a day now, and open almost NOTHING sent to me. There are even links on here I wont click on unless it is a recognized, trusted poster.

          If I dont recognize a poster, I let someone else here click on it 😆

          its just going to get worse… the closer we get to freedom for JODI, the more the shit-bags are going to try and cause harm.

  30. good day to all and hello to the newcomers i can not believe no one mentioned chris hughes here today he was on dr drew last nite and will again tonight. I thought he go a pink slip from the defence he told the judge he was going to. what happen to that. now the frog is telling the world that jodi was so scary he was afraid she was going to hurt his kids and add oh help travis family they need money and the site address and also to give to a fund raising some travis and kids ????? he wanted to do ???? nasty nancy had jodi family plastered all over the world with their interview with flores and a lot of interesting things were said there its recorded so will spend time to write down what stood out in that but again where do they get this guess flores or JM had to give it HLN why does the defence not give the public info to help jodi like the original flores report the detailed breakdown of the roommates and ashley that died her husband dustin the hughes HLN comes here and uses out statement but will not discuss the real issue everyone wants to know why did she do it. ????????? she did not kill travis she never had the gun or the knife there is no picture she had them no DNA she had them no witness that saw her someone with a child found out travis molested him and just chris hughes that is your child I was molested at 6 by a family member and at 12 by a neighbor and I went thru life with anger towards my mother and father but my mom the most when I told her about it she took me to a doctor she told the nuns were told I was made to knee on rice and separated from other children yes I was mad and your son will eventually act out too chris and sky hughes your days are numbered you can hide you head in the sand now but eventually you will get bit.

      • geebee just read the hughes site you did you forgot the end when nurmi wanted to give the hughes the pink slip a supenna opps spelling what happened to that ….???? 🙄 there cell phones were taken did anything come of that. and now chris is on dr drew spuwing kkk shit about how jodi will hurt his kids come on get real travis is the pedifile here not her and she would not hurt a fly but on the other had mr hughes you would enjoy your money now because someday someone will find out about your involvement jodi dad was asked about the PPL in helping jodi in her defence and to my knowledge the first team did a lously job and the second one is trying to pick up the peaces I left jodi a message about all the stuff I thought happened and asked her to give me a sign that I was right and she gave me the sign that I was right and nasty nancy saw that and used it she put it up every nite when she is on tv. well I hope that if things do not go right for jodi she will get a good sherlock holmes and a great defence team to get the real truth out about what happened

      • you do such a wonderful job, i can not say that enough!! I wanted to put you on Dr. Drew last nite with all of your blood splatter evidence and blow all of his dumbass experts out of the water. It was my secret dream, i confess.

  31. A little off topic
    I think Dina light on the stand. she said she broke up with Travis cuz she wanted to get married and he did not well how many years later and she still not married and kept in close contact with Travis.

  34. cindy….she wasn’t a virgin…..so she couldn’t find anyone to marry her!! If that were me…I would have been a witness for the DT….just sayin’!!!!!!

    • And apparently, when Travis told Deanna that he used her up and now she was to old to ever be married to anyone, Deanna believed him.

    • deanna had more motive for offing travis than jodi….

      jodi was trying to break free, deanna never did until travis’ death.

      • BeeCee…I feel that is true somewhat…

        After watching Deanna on the witness stand…I get this feeling that she still loves Travis and by having Travis’ dog, Napoleon, I sense that she still feels a connection to Travis…

        I feel that she’ll never really get over Travis until…one day…after Napoleon dies…

      • not so because she got up on tv and said what she said she still loves travis she has his dog and that reminds her of him every day she lied on the stand he treated her the same way he treated jodi and he probably did something to mimi to make her say what she said that she only wanted to be friends or did she lie about that too or did someone tell these lady to say what they said along with all the kkk clan too

      • Good point BeeCee.

        Yes, truthseeker is right because I remember her saying “I have the dog” on the stand like she was proud she won a race or something.

        I feel bad for her because Travis took all her good years and she has nothing to show for it but memories and dog, but I do have misgivings. That email, for instance, said “you’re wasting your time” in a very bitter way, from someone who was strung along and didn’t find out until way after the fact. Deanna is the only one who fits this description; as Jodi KNEW she was wasting her time carrying on with a man she ended a relationship with.

        • I think Deanna still has a chance to get married if she wants to. She seems like she has given up which is very sad.

  35. If I say, red, white and blue. Does you brain automatically leap to the American flag or some form of patriotism?
    When I hear a BPD diagnosis my brain leap to the profile of a sociopath. JM wanted the jurors to make that leap in their brain and Dr.D did that for him. Her testimony was zeroing in on sociopath behavior:
    Glibness/superficial charm
    Manipulative and cunning
    Grandiose sense of self
    Pathological lying
    Shallow emotions
    I feel, the defense has to auto correct the jurors brain with Dr. Geffner testimony.

    • When you say Red White and Blue I think of the beer we drank in grad school. RWB was definitely a cut above PBR or Nati Bo and only $3.50 a 12-pack.

      • Ours was Colt 45.
        I have no idea What it cost any more. course that was back in the days what a pack of cigarettes cost 45 cents in a gallon of gas wasn’t much more than that. I also walked 15 miles just school with paper bags on my feet…. oh wait that’s my dad story.

        • You got more bang for your buck with the malt liquor. We were going more for the vintage than the kick.

          • lol.. a bottle of apple jack and a pack of smokes for a buck..then we walked 15 miles to school in the snow with no shoes… : )

            • going uphill both ways, dodging bears and wolves.

              Oh no I got that mixed up, that was DeMarte sweating heavily to better slip out of the tigers grasp.

              Still can’t believe she said that.

    • JM also wants the jury to see a “BPD Jodi” as a worthless life. Not a person of value, easier to discard than someone who could contribute good in life. It’s really F’ed up, and so is JM.
      Not that this is at all true or that I believe it, but that is his goal.

      • Oh, I totally think it his goal. I agree with Al, in the first round in his closing is going to stay broad and give a distance overall of his case of PM1. Once the defense makes their closing and he has his finally say..he’s going in for kill.

      • back in the day we had the Union Jack but now have the red maple leaf..

        but yes.. I think of the red, white a blue as the good old USA..

        Dr. Geffner better clear all of this up!

    • BPD doesn’t make me think sociopath. BPD makes me think of someone who has extreme emotional fluctuations, which sociopaths typically do not. Antisocial personality disorder makes me think “sociopath.”

        • Jolie was the sociopath. Ryder was totally mellow and cool and BPD, a little suicidal, but not out to hurt anyone.

  36. Hello everyone. Just popping in to see what’s going on. Didn’t get a chance yesterday. Hope you all have a great day!

    • Now that is not a fair statement…..he had all the media reports to base his assessment on. Just ask Nasty Grace, she will tell you this guy is brilliant. Heck he will probably be on her show this week.

  43. Good question, Journee,

    I’ve also been curious about this whole gun deal. Some place I read that Jodi’s grandfather admitted he didn’t I know a lot about guns or maybe didn’t know a lot about the gun that was stolen. In fact, he didn’t even know the “brand” of the stolen gun. I assume brand refers to the manufacturer (Winchester, Remington, etc.). It makes me wonder if he even was sure about caliber of the gun (a .25 caliber?) or the bullets. On the other hand, it was determined (??) the gun was fully loaded with “jacketed hollow-point bullets.” Is that how the grandfather described them? Doesn’t sound like someone who doesn’t know about guns. Or, did he describe the bullets and the police came to the conclusion they were jacketed hollow-points.

    In addition, Jodi’s FATHER claimed the gun was a .22 caliber gun. In the photos of the grandfather’s make-shift “gun cabinet, (see below) there are 2 boxes of what appear to be .22 caliber bullets. Apparently, only one gun was taken and 3 guns were left behind. What I would really like to know: IS ONE OF THE 3 GUNS LEFT BEHIND A .22? If not, what happened to the .22. It’s possibly, of course, that there is a .22 still in the gun cabinet, but I’ve never heard any description of the 3 guns remaining in the grandfather’s house.

    On a conspiracy theory level, it makes me wonder if Martinez just doesn’t want to talk about the “stolen gun” because some of these issues would be raised plus the fact that there were burglaries in that area around the same time where other guns were stolen. I think he would just like stay away from the gun issue. I would love to hear exactly what Officer Kevin Friedman (who investigated the break-in at the grandparent’s house)said on the witness stand or see a transcript of his testimony. Did he say something that Martinez doesn’t want repeated?

    Gun cabinet in grandparent’s house:

    http://postimg.org/image/onrp17abx/

    • bingo you hit it the gun the dad said it was a 22 so how do they go from a 22 to a 25 I cought that too

    • Actually there are two different types of .22 caliber ammo in the picture. Some of it is 22 WMR and the other is 22 LR. The 22 WMR is the 22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire and the 22 LR is the 22 Long Rifle. While 22 LR pistols are fairly common, the 22 WMR is typically a rifle cartridge (there are a few handuns chambered for 22 WMR, but rare). Typically one shouldn’t shoot 22 LR out of a 22 WMR chambered gun. I used to own a Ruger revolver that had a separate 22 WMR cylinder but again, I don’t know about what grandpa had.

      The big issue, I have never seen brought up here is what those guns actually were. Most petty thieves will snap up handguns in a heartbeat but steer clear of rifles. I know at least one of the weapons the old man had was a high power rifle (you can see the rounds on the left of the picture). In all likelihood so was the weapon chambered for the 22 WMR. So it is quite possible that the 25 was the only thing a thief would take.

      • Thanks, Tonya & Al,

        Thanks for identifying the ammunition boxes, Al. I initially thought the lower box might be .20 gauge shotgun shells but the box is pretty small.

        I agree about only taking the handgun since it would be so much easier to conceal.

        I’ll have to check the video where the father claims the gun was a .22 and see if he gives any reason for thinking it was a .22.

        • coldcase53 🙄

          you can see it on Nancy Nasty Bitch tonight she is the one with the video of the mom and the dad have it recorded or you could check U tube could be there JM and FLORES only give evidence to HLN then watch CHRIS HUGHES TONITE ON DR DREW the one after dark last nite had a hung jury one voted she did not premeditate it ….. she said she thought it was an act of passion or something like that will have to watch it again and write it down what was said

  44. geebee just read the hughes site you did you forgot the end when nurmi wanted to give the hughes the pink slip a supenna opps spelling what happened to that ….???? there cell phones were taken did anything come of that. and now chris is on dr drew spuwing kkk shit about how jodi will hurt his kids come on get real travis is the pedifile here not her and she would not hurt a fly but on the other had mr hughes you would enjoy your money now because someday someone will find out about your involvement jodi dad was asked about the PPL in helping jodi in her defence and to my knowledge the first team did a lously job and the second one is trying to pick up the peaces I left jodi a message about all the stuff I thought happened and asked her to give me a sign that I was right and she gave me the sign that I was right and nasty nancy saw that and used it she put it up every nite when she is on tv. well I hope that if things do not go right for jodi she will get a good sherlock holmes and a great defence team to get the real truth out about what happened I hope that the defense finds out who gave nasty nancy grace the videos of jodis mom and dad out how do they get this stuff

    • tonya, i did not understand that either, how can they put that out there when they were being interviewed, not interrogated?? No court papers anywhere??

      • I dont know this is all kkk shit to me and the PPL shit and the moron shit and no I spelt that moron morman shit it is just shit cant help but step in all the shit

          • I forgot to say that I learned a new spelling of the ole time famous shit word a while ago…chyt…it’s too cool…and funny too…

            • I hate the fact that jodi had to change her story about the man and the woman being there the evidence supports that too except the intruders had more time to get rid of there involvement there along with the roommates help and all the kkk clan too

        • LMAOOOO Tonya….the whole thing has just been a big dump of shit……LOL LOL

          • the defence team tried to get the facts out of chris hughes and sky but JM kept them from that and the judge help the little fart. JM knows the truth but I bet he has a nice deposit in his bank account to do what he is doing to keep the truth from come out and one day shit will hit the fan and he will not be able to back peddle to keep from getting hit with shit

      • I don’t understgand who in the hell HLN can abuse Jodis Mom and Dads right to privacy by airing these “interviews” done by the cops in CA the day Jodi was arrested!

        Beyond the pale for me..

  45. The Judge who is handling the George Zimmerman trial, Debra Nelson, better get a handle on her courtroom before she gets compared to Sherry Stephens or Lance Ito. The lawyers in that one are already playing dirty and getting nasty. Another Juan Martinez type prosecutor.

  46. HLN has wasted the past 1/2 hour trying to get callers to call in and vote on their “Most Memorable Judge”

    1. Judge Lance Ito
    2. Judge Belvin Perry
    3. Judge Sherry Stephens

    They must getting desperate with no more Big Breaking News…so now they are digging around in the bottom of the bucket for that last bit of nothing…

    • Good evening,
      1. Judge Ito – acquittal
      2. Judge Perry- acquittal

      They say it happens in threes…lol. Judge Stephens – acquittal

  47. My rant of the day: Tired of people calling Jodi a monster. In my opinion Scott Peterson was a monster.

      • Although I agree with you Tony that S.Peterson is a bastard…I don’t believe state sanctioned murder is what society should be about…(sorry…) But I do believe there is a special place in HELL for this bastard – he will have to answer for what he’s done….

        • I respect your view on the DP Janeen. Petersen just isn’t fit to breath air as far as I’m concerned.

    • Hey careful! Scott is one of my next cases…

      I don’t know for sure whether he was innocent or guilty.

      But I’m going to find out,.

    • he has been paid off too and guess you has all the money and who is on tv last nite asking for more money HUGHES HUGHES HUGHES HUGHES HUGHES HUGHES HUGHES 🙄 🙄

      • In just the last few days, Tonya (and in part because I read your post the other night suggesting that Chris and Sky could have been the masked intruders – that really resonated with me, BTW), I have come to wonder whether the lying cops, the lying ME, the biased judge, and the prosecutor so zealously prosecuting such a weak case – I am wondering if they are not motivated so much by money as fear. Maybe they’re not being bribed. Maybe they’re being threatened.

        The more I read about these people (not just the Hughes, but the whole community) the more inclined I am to think they’re capable of anything.

        • Journee 🙄

          glad that others are seeing what I see and the hughes have seen it to and they are now on dr drew spuewing shit and if I get a sherlock holmes on the case and a defence team that had ball to stand up to the crap that JM and Flores and the judge jodi would be free and would have to move to another country to be safe from them but she would be free.

          • I’ve watched hours of Flores testimony in the last few days (looking for info about that gun burglary), and when you watch all of that testimony lined up like that, it becomes clear how very ODD his behavior on the stand has been. His affect is very flat, his behavior very passive. His first response to nearly every question seems to be “I don’t know” or “I’m not sure” or “I don’t remember.” Particularly when he’s on direct with JM, it’s like he’s waiting for JM to take his hand and lead him through what he is supposed to say. And when Nurmi confronts him about the discrepancy between his testimony and Horn’s, he’s not defensive, he’s not combative, he’s not apologetic, he’s just… FLAT. LIke all he wants to do is say what he’s supposed to say and get out of there.

            It looked like fear to me.

  49. Greetings
    found this on twitter:

    BREAKING: State asks for another witness in #jodiarias Jill Hayes, Ph.D, from, New Orleans, Louisiana

    • yes that is my home town and a coon ass will wopp wopp go New Orleans kick some as Jill Hayes Ph.D 🙂 🙄

        • She is very attractive! She also seems to have more experience that Dr. DeMarte did. I wonder how this will play to the jury! :/ sigh…

          It doesn’t matter too much if all she is doing is insisting what she thinks happened at the crime scene vs. what the defense expert thinks happened.

          If Dr. G effectively proves PTSD, and if both the defense’s version of the forensics vs. the prosecution’s version of forensics negate one another, then the jury pretty much just has to go on other testimony – abuse and PTSD

  50. The judge granted the new whitness because prosecution brought in new evidence by going into the BPD. I can’t see why they should now be able to bring in another rebuttal whitness?

    • the judge has been paid to help the little shit of a man JM he gets what he wants when he wants and she must give good blow jobs

        • Objection! Calls for speculation! We do not even know if JM has a penis to fellate!

              • Mornin’ all, goodnight some!
                Well JM is a bit of a wanker, as rest of them are, at least when they are not engaged in some secretive up sexual ‘misdeeds’, which is their right of course because we all know what happens when normal sexuality is repressed.
                It has to go somewhere.
                Along with the lying deceitful narcissistic Mr H and his saintly wife, unhealthy narcissism is the flavour of the month/year/eternity amongst this crowd. They think they are soooo special. I find it all quite disturbing that their activities.are so secretive.
                We also know that narcissistic wounding is early childhood damage, so what has happened to all those little Mormon children to make them this way? We all know about Warren Jeffs (?) and his insane and revolting lifestyle. Same church, same attitudes/values. Can we make inferences?
                This seriously dubious ‘faith’ is no better than many other cults and their narcissistic leaders.
                It’s pure poison for women and children.

          • Omg Renee
            Just visualizing JM penis
            Is downright traumatizing!

            I am picturing a tiny peter pepper
            left out in the sun to dry and shrivel.

            Halp!

          • Over ruled. Your instructed to remember previous posting (testimony) that JM has his penis up his ass.

            • Objection! I believe the previous testimony was not related to whose penis was in whose ass. I believe previous testimony states that Travis Alexander had his penis in any and all available asses.

              I further believe that the Persecutor is angry that the Defendant took away his future plans for TA to “toss his salad”

              • Counsel approach….we’re in recess for only 5 minutes…you are all instructed to wait in the jury room – and REMEMBER THE AMMUNITION….

                • J, that kitty in your pic looks EXACTLY like my guy Buster. (we call him Butter, because of his fat cheeks) and the funniest part is, I have that pic on my computer, and have for months. I made this PP presentation called “The Many Lives of Buster” because I noticed alllll over the interwebs I see pics that look exactly like him!!

                • good one love you all keep it up after the break oh wait the judge says go home come back in 5 days so you can watch HLN

                • according to HLN….he must be a crazed psychopath – next he’ll fluff out his whiskers and make eyes at the Persian down the hall….

      • Don’t hold back Tonya…tell us how you really feel!!!! LMAOOOOO

        You rock!!!!! You NEVER cease to crack me up! Thank you for you being you!!!! 🙂

        • Tonya along with so many other of you ladies is something else! The women who post at this webpage are not to be MESSED with!!!!!!

          • Got that right Tony!!!! We’ve all learned from being “messed” with – that it WON’T HAPPEN AGAIN……LOL

            • second that we will not be messed with just dont open shit because if you do shit happens

                • ok tony you know your place it is here and not on the kkk site so turn your fan on high for the shit is going to fly today and the kkk is going to get hit what can they do we have learned not to open shit just delete it and Im loving sometimes and a hell raiser other times and when it comes to the kkk i want to sling some shit. im tired of seeing jodi get railroaded in this trial and HLN doing it too so its time to stop being nice anymore if JM is going to play dirty so can we.

              • I think if the defence team talks to the New Orleans lady and tells her what is going on I think being kagin she will she turn on JM shits and that will be a trial to remember

    • I don’t see why it should be allowed if Dr. G has not testified yet! There is currently nothing to surrebut!

      • great point. Wondering how many surrebuttals both sides get. Can the defense then get another withness to rebut the State’s new doc, and so on and so on, until we are all dead from old age? I think JM should be finished. He got his two docs, they sucked too bad for him.

        • My fucking health can’t take this much longer………

          jeez………………….

          fucking circus.

      • Actually, the defense has to disclose all expert witness testimony to the state, and the state gets to interview/depose all expert witnesses. This then allows the state to know what the expert is going to testify to and prepare any cross and or rebuttal. So in fact, given that Geffner is going to testify tomorrow the state knows exactly what he will say, and so has ample proffer for a super-surrebuttal.

        • I read that JM is bringing in “The beauty and The brains” with his next female witness…is he using his”Tit for Tat” strategy to try and influence the male jurors with the beauty or overall for the brains…LOL…

        • Al-
          what confuses me is why does the defense get to put on another Psychologist? The Neuropsych is being put on to rebut “new” evidence from Demarte’ s testimony, and then to rebut the ME’s lying testimony. As the tax payers are footing the bill, shouldn’t the defense have to put their previous witnesses back on the stand if there is anything new brought in. Pros has already covered all of the information (psychological and ME) that the new defense witness will be there for. Doesn’t make sense that JM just gets a second chance with a Phd. Psychologist because he knows his first choice screwed up in a big way. Hope I make sense….

  51. jm is a desperate sad man, grasping
    for straws!!
    i can’t wait for the F-works tomorrow!

    I am sure the defense is ready to
    fire on all cylinders. It’s going to
    be a positive week for Jodi
    i can feel it.

  52. This is always the issue with these expert witnesses. Any one can find an expert willing to disagree with the other side’s expert, and that’s what these guys do for a living. And at the end of the day the jury ends up throwing all their opinions out.

    Unless the judge limits this it can go on ad nauseum.

    • I agree 100% Al. I think this jury is going to be sick of conflicting testimony from psychologists & therapists that they will disregard it all. I do wish the defense had brought in an ME of their own though even if it would have been another hired gun saying what they were paid to say. I just would like for another medical doctor to refute the state’s ME.

  53. Pretty annoyed that Zimmerman jurors are going to be sequestered! I feel that this was a true detrement to Jodi’s case that her jury didn’t get sequestered. However, having heard enough of the jurors questions..I am inferring that they realize there is enough evidence that Jodi was abused and that given the situation she was in that day, understanding an unhealthy relationship and everything that led up to that point that Jodi had endured, Im convinced she will be set free.

    • isn’t it amazing that the Zimmerman Judge can responsible decisions and sequester the jury in just a couple of hours. Judge pickles just keep digging holes, opens more doors for JM.

  54. I can’t understand this whole rebuttal sub rebuttal sub sub rebuttal deal,
    It seems like the state is feeling as though their case is not as good as they thought and JM is like a kid saying
    ” oh, yeah. Well if they say this I have someone who says this! ” it is like he is a one upper.
    It is silly that at this point if the states case has not met its burden, it probably will never meet it.

    If JM Reopens his case in chief, does that mean the defence can too?
    I just don’t get it, the jury is probably getting mad too. Now it really feels like the state is overreaching.

    • Yeah, I thought the state had rested and had no more witnesses. They will probably end up pushing the schedule back now. I am doubtful they will be finished with the witnesses by the end of tomorrow

    • It wouldn’t surprise me to hear that HLN and their cohorts help JM with this case…someone’s been burning up the airways to help get the paperwork in place to beat the weekend deadline…

  55. every scary Al but you are right and we thought the judge said closing on thursday not 🙄

  56. I am so pissed………….

    I should NEVER peek into the evil minds that make up the 40,000 sheepel. They are already posting Dr. G’s amazon book, and the reviews have begun.

    Further, they are running around with a petition to close this site. LOL LOL LOL LOL good luck on that one.

    Humanity is shot. SHOT

    • Aren’t they bored with the repetitive behaviors?? Can’t they think of anything NEW????? Give me a fucking break….

      post your fucked up reviews….circulate your fucked up petition to the masses….get your fucked up followers to sign it but make sure they all sign “Asshole #1″…”Asshole #2″….”Asshole #3″…..

      • I know it………… sometimes, when I am feeling frustrated and passive aggressive, I just sit and report, report, report, report. Screen shot, report.

        Lather, rinse, report.

        • Renee…try…sitting under the hairdryer, coffee, and a good book…LOL…

    • They cannot close this site! The 1st Amendment is on our side and we got people in DC such as Rand Paul who will back us to the hilt!!!!

    • Sheepel is RIGHT!!! They cant even think logically or further than what NG says. Can NOT believe that so many people take HLN for fact!

      • It was funny today Dr. Drew was on Howard Stern’s radio show. Howard said watch Dr. Drew on Headline News and Dr. Drew had to correct him – no its called HLN. LOL they probably can’t say NEWS anymore because it really isn’t! He said he show was kind of Nancy Grace-ish style and he’s been focused on Jodi Arias since the world is obsessed with her, but he isn’t. I just thought it was funny. He spoke about trial briefly and was more “normal” about it although he sensationalized it a bit to make it appealing- oh its all about sex tapes!

        • With all the bullchyt they spew on their show…Dr.Drew probably forgot what HLN stood for…yikes…he really is dumber than a 5th grader….

          • they did this to make sure that every one watch the dr drew because he is having chris hughes back on tonight. and I want to know what happened to the pink slip that nurmi was going to file with the judge to put there asses on the stand in front of the jury what up with that

        • My sense is that Dr Drew is deep down ashamed of what he’s doing but tows the line for his bosses at HLN. What a sell out! Anything for money. Shame! I refuse to watch that channel anymore!

          • All these supposed attorneys and physicians that they have on HLN, seem to really enjoy spewing these lies and half-truths, all in their collective effort to bring Jodi to death. I have lost all respect for them all.

            • if it were not for HLN we would not know things they seem to get evidence that the defense team says JM and flores is letting out to them so why wont they let out stuff too like nurmi said shall we just let HLN try this trail and do away with the court room all together

    • I have no clue where I found this picture!! LOL I just loved the fact that he’s upside down…I’ll be honored to keep him in honor of Buster!!! 🙂

    • OMFG renee are you serious??

      HLN should be held accountable for their part in all this. They stir up public outrage then sit back and don’t lift a finger while the lives of commendable citizens are shit all over by the stupid sheeple.

      So sick of this >:(

  57. Argh!! I’m ready to close on my house and for this trial to be OVER!! I am so distracted by both that I am only doing enough work to squeak by right now! LOL

    I’m really hoping for a time served verdict and her to walk out….

    It’s like JM is playing a game. Wish he would just give up already!

  58. I though the judge wanted it wrapped up on Wed. I hope the little man makes the jurors mad at him for wasting so much of their time on his stupidity.

    • I think it will wrap up on Wed. I think the scope of questioning will be very limited. It should go pretty fast, as long as the lawyers don’t spend hours on “qualifing them as expert”.

    • I’m with you Maria…..yesterday and today are just dragging on!!! It’s only 1:00pm here. I have four more hours to work.!!!!

      • it’s almost midnight here.I’ve worked overtime yesterday,today and will be working overtime tomorrow,trying to catch up, ,finishing just in time for the trial.I’ve read through everybody’s posts (each and every one invaluable)and am about to go to bed,exhausted.See you ll tomorrow* Godspeed team Jodi***

  60. Janeen 🙄

    is your kitty pulling a jodi stunt standing on the head stand stunt love the cat photo

    • according to HLN he is bat-shit crazy….and next he’ll throw his head back and fluff his whiskers…and then jump in the garbage can and shred the SHIT out of all the papers….LOL

        • Oh Tonya he isn’t one of mine…I found the picture somewhere on the web and loved it! I wish at least ONE of my 9 would do something that comical….LOL LOL

          • Janeen,
            Love you kitty gravatar. Your (and others) post here are being used as examples by this blogger; justdatruth2012.blogspot.com. Be careful, your comments and upsidedown kitty picture may end up on HLN. 🙂

    • My understanding is court starts at 9:30 AZ time, and will go until finished, even if it is well after 5.

      I don’t know what time that is with you, I have only recently figured out my own time zone deal LOL

      So, for me, in the central time zone I am expecting court to start at 11:30 (that is about 2:30 judge pickles time) and will go until 7ish?

      • LOL! I’m Central time to (TX)… It has been so frustrating because it will usually start around 1145 my our time and then it’s time for lunch, I come back from lunch and they’re breaking for lunch. By the time they come back, it’s only about half an hour before I get off work! I usually spent the next morning (before trial started again, to watch what I missed.
        Judge Joke is more like it!!

        • I do the exact same thing! I always feel like I am a day behind. Probably because I am!

  65. This is for Gulliver:
    I (78%)
    N (62%)
    T(25%)
    P (33%)
    Hope it’s not to late to include in your study, i am way behind on posts, still catching up on posts back from april 28th…. wanted to take test before reading ahead and maybe biasing self with more info you may provide later about your theory…

    • my daughter and i had a lot of fun with this test, she is graduating with a masters psychology in a week. Whoohoo! She said remember it is a guideline to know who you are. I had to laugh, we tested almost the same. Guess somebody does not fall to far from the tree, which is not a bad deal.lol We did it for chyts and giggles, she had already had the test in Grad school. She said, remember it is a camera picture in time, how you are feeling, emotions, etc. But we sure had fun with it.

  66. No matter what Jm and Florez do, they will go down in the history books, flameing in infame. No respect, lying, cheating, withholding evidence, prejudicial testimony. All of their careers are going to be lost, because of their over egregious charges and manipulation of this court. It will be taught in Universities all over, this is what you do not do: lack of respect of the court, court cases and judicial practices. Juan Martinez and det Florez, NOW are you really proud of yourselves? Take Apario, sp with you. I hope you all know what is waiting for you and its not good. Just my opinion.

      • ty, this whole da*m thing is makeing me so nervous also, i have planted tomatoes, onions, hybiscis, other flowers, laundry, pulled weeds just trying to keep busy. If i end up on top of the house my children will know, ” mom just flew over the coo coo nest” lol Praying for Jodi and all of her family, We are here. Respect to all of them.

  67. chris hughes said sky had a premimition about jodi being so bad that they worried for their children

    • Isn’t it true… that Chris Hughes never got too close to TA, because the smell of Sky’s ass on TA’s breath always irked him somewhat? Yes or no?

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      • Haha!

        Those two idiots will say anything to stay in the news. I bet Sky’s “premonition” had more to do with the fact that Travis was spending less time earning $$$$$$ for PPL while he was traveling with Jodi.

        • I think her “premonition” was how her piece of feces shitface husband was going to find out about her porn movie “Dildo with a Heartbeat”…just sayin….

          coincidentally written by TA aka The Messiah of the Mormon Faith….

        • Yes Kira..with Big T working less because he was doing the dirty with Jodi means another reason for his àtonemnet`…..

      • Maybe chris killed travis because that kid was his not Chris’ . I’m just saying. And what about this new shit they wrote those warning emails to PROTECT TRAVIS not jodi. It was to scare her away from him so SHE would leave HIM alone?!?!? WTF that’s not what you emails say you f*ing DOLT!! GOD THESE PEOPLE! Your thoughts

  68. HLN = Hardcore Lying Nincompoops! They would advocate putting Dora the Explorer to death if it helped their ratings! They would mis-characterize her as a pathological liar and a nomadic ho pillaging her way from one village to the next. I know Juan, Nancy, JVM, Vince and Drew would all love to jump up and down shrieking giddily ‘We did it!!’ But if they let JM follow this surrebuttal with anyone, I think I shall scream. ‘My turn, my turn!!!’ Give it up f#ckface, you had your chance and you blew it with your complete lack of evidence, your ever-morphing experts, your inability to ask a question in a coherent manner and your general un-likability as a human being.

  69. Hi everyone I haven’t post in a while. I went to Texas to take care of my aunt who’s very sick. this town in Texas is in the middle of nowhere, so I didn’t see to much of the trial. Luckily, not to many people knows about Jodi Arias. I ask a bunch of people and none of them knew anything about it. Is nice to see alot new people on this site in support of Jodi. I’m still on her side and I hope that soon she’ll be free.

    Xoxo,

      • Aww, thank you guys. Hugs for everyone and remember soon we are going to be celebrarting Jodi’s freedom. My prayers go out to you Jodi. May the Lord be with you in these difficult times.

  70. I just heard Dr. Drew tell VP that “Travis was sucked into Jodi’s sexual vortex, which he was uncomfortable with”, and more and more BS from the hughes. Without this site and you al, I would have broken my TV by now.

    • “sucked into Jodi’s sexual vortex…” ?????????????? What an asshole….

      Of course he was uncomfortable – she isn’t 12……. what assholes all of them TA Shitsky and stupid VP…..

      • Of course, you’re right. She was too old for him and had to dress up like a little school girl. How could anyone after hearing that tape say something so absurd. What bothers me is there are so many stupid people that believe it just because it is on TV.

    • Sexual VORTEX?

      Give me a fucking break. Travis was no virgin, and Jodi had only had a handful of partners. They make it sound like she banged everything that moved and poor wittle Travis just couldn’t resist.

      • Even if she had 50 partners….WHO THE FUCK ARE THEY TO JUDGE HER?????????

        (not yelling at you Kira..)

        Sending ((((((((Kira)))))))))) hugs LOL LOL

        • makes me sick….

          on top of their death squad cheerleading.

          Now these so called men are reinforcing the maddonna..whore complex and the old double standard!

          I swear, as a society we are going backwards!

        • Right because it appears that Travis probably had about fifty, and nobody is blinking an eye at that, even though they claimed he was a viiiirgiiiin. They say it’s “his right” to use women as he sees fit.

    • I don’t like Dr. Drew evil that’s why i don’t watch his show. Any way, I block HLN from my Tv. That guy is nothing but fake.

    • Oh fucking please! They treat Travis like he was a little kid that couldn’t help himself. That so not true. He was a thirty year old grown man who knew exactly what he was doing. He was vilifying Jodi behind her back so he could control her life and keep her in his without being held accountable for it by his “friends” who apparently never really knew him.

      Drew makes me sick, he really does. VP makes me sick too, they both enjoy spinning anything into some misogynistic message for the woman hating masses.

  72. There is something very devious going on here and it has to be confronted head on. What happened in that bedroom in 2008 wasn’t just a killing, it was pure carnage. The extent of the carnage should be the very reason that validates the only logical conclusion is that this was not done by a person who had a rational thinking brain.

    Jodi Arias had no criminal history or even a pattern of violence that was proffered by anybody. The only things remotely being able to be called violent were in her very young and formative years as a child. Often in these cases, only responding to violence that she was being subjected to by her parents and reacting. Nothing in her adult life shows these tendencies. In fact the people who knew her best and were intimately associated with her the longest were her two boyfriends, one of four years and the other two years, and they have both said she was very withdrawn and passive.

    Are we to conclude Jodi was a deranged female Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer–all who mutilated and tortured their victims? Or even an Eileen Warnuous. To think that would be absurd.

    Martinez knows that it’s a hail Mary pass of Twilight Zone proportions to assume that he has proven a premeditation case with Jodi gathering gas cans, re-doing her hair, purposely flipping her license plate upside down on a rental car, supposedly stealing a gun from the home she’s living in, all with the intentional and pre-planned mission of sneaking into Mesa to commit her first murder. Anyone with neurons firing in their brain knows that for every one of these seemingly bizarre actions, there are ten alternate explanations that could explain why it was done for other reasons. So, proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard of premeditation of any kind or preconceived planning that she came to Arizona to kill Travis is not even in the realm of intelligent discussion. He knows it and I believe the jury will reject it on its face.

    The felony murder charge with burglary predicate is equally total hallucination. It shows the prosecution is not even confident in their own case. They want to morph murder 2 into murder 1 by saying, that if she didn’t intend to kill him, she intended to “wound” him. But the death resulted while committing the act of burglary. And it’s hard to say this without laughing–supposedly the burglary “became” a burglary because after Travis was stabbed the first time, he would naturally withdraw Jodi’s permission for her to be there, thereby she is now in his house illegally and the felony killing resulted. I believe this will absolutely incense the jury and insult them when they realize what monumental taffy-pulling of feeble facts this really shows.

    But this is not what Martinez is banking on. He is a sinister bastard and you can almost hear the theme from Jaws playing in the background.

    He relentlessly battered Dr. Samuels and Alyce, trying to insult them, demean them and exhaust every effort to make their testimony pure buffoonery and irrelevant to the jury. He did this because this is the torpedo that sinks his whole case. Without the PTSD, he has a hole in his case big enough to drop Arpaio through.

    This is why it is IMPERATIVE and I emphasize that word again, imperative, that Dr. Geffner be squeaky clean in his curriculum vitae and be able to mesmerize the jury with dazzling information about the brain in trauma overload situations. It has to leave the jury reeling with confidence that Jodi was not in control of her thought processes after the shot was fired and that in fact her actions were not only supported by our understanding of the brain, but in fact it has more than a preponderance of basis in fact with Jodi’s previous history.

    This is the Arizona definition statute language of premeditation:

    “Premeditation” means that the defendant acts with either the intention or the knowledge that he will kill another human being, when such intention or knowledge precedes the killing by any length of time to permit reflection.”

    Note “any” length of time. And “reflection.” This means ANY time whatsoever that the brain transmits a conscious option to continue or discontinue your action. This is the elephant in the room.

    Sanchez knows that he doesn’t have a prayer showing this prior to her coming to Arizona. There was no lying-in-wait. She was invited in and even had the equivalent of a sexual daliance marathon with him to such an extent that he told his roommate he only got about 45 minutes sleep that night. But this is misdirection. Much as a magician does. He wants you to look at his left hand while the right hand has already performed the illusion.

    In his final closing argument, and more likely after the defense has given theirs when there is no longer any chance to refute it, he will inform the jury of this language. Telling them that if they choose to disregard any premeditation or intent with all the circumstantial evidence actions prior to June 4th, they do not NEED to rely on that for premeditation. If they even believe that he was shot first and that’s what happened, the amount of overkill was so severe that any logical person should conclude it was not necessary for this amount of mutilation. It CERTAINLY was not necessary that she have to cut his throat. So there HAD to be a point where she knew the threat to her of severe personal injury or death was diminished and at that moment in any scenario she had the legal obligation to STOP.

    He will say that it is a leap of logic to assume that at some point she didn’t know she didn’t have to continue stabbing him or slit his throat. And no matter how SHORT that moment of reflection was, it was conscious thought–even it was for only a few seconds. It has then met the definition of premeditation. He will ask them to bifurcate the premeditation into two different periods it could have occurred–before June 4th and the afternoon in that bathroom. He will contend that he has shown it to the extent necessary that her actions in the days leading up to June 4 show a plan with intent. But if they “don’t” find that this is proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the photo evidence of the body condition shows it. And THIS is the real premeditation he will try to sell the jury on. He will display the photographs graphically and probably do demonstrations of what it would look like and the efforts it would take to stab 29 times. He will then tie in the helter skelter cleanup efforts to back it and the attempt to void the camera evidence.

    Everyone here is focusing on premeditation which isn’t proven by all the nonsense actions that Jodi took prior to and during her trip. That isn’t the danger.

    I have a transcript of the testimony the day Martinez was cross examining Jodi on the details of the murder–all three parts of it. I’m trying to find a place I can host it so I can put a link here for it. When you see it in printed form, it is IMMEDIATELY obvious how Martinez is desperately trying already to nail her into admitting she had cognizant thought about getting the gun, whether she could have ran instead or exercised other options. Even prior to the shooting, he’s trying to establish what I’ve described. It’s fascinating to read it and how she refused to fall into his trap time and time again. But this is the premeditation he has his sights totally transfixed on.

    What Dr. Geffner has to do—and indemnifying implicitly what Dr. Samuels and Alyce have said–is show that at NO time after the shot did Jodi have cogent reasoning. Her brain was on auto pilot and it was as if she was having an out-of-body experience. The mainspring on her brain came totally loose and it was autonomous involuntary action taking over caused by the perceived fear that she had already had a battery committed on her and the next was about to be death.

    Without him convincing at least one juror that this was without question the likelihood and supported by this scene resembling a St. Valentine’s Day massacre, the few seconds premeditation required by Arizona law will have been established. The gas cans and Yreka gun will only have been the prestidigitation that concealed the prosecutions real and hopeful target all along, causing the defense to concentrate on the false flag.

    I want to see Martinez go biserk when the verdict comes back murder two or less. Make him an international laughing stock hated by the people of Arizona who threw 3 millions dollars down the fucking toilet.

    Come on Dr. Geffner !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • i am with you, what a excellent post! You said what needs to be said. KUDO’S TO YOU, OVER AND OVER AGAIN………………..STANDING OVATION!!!

      • I second that STANDING OVATION! I am in awe. I believe that the defense is aware of the “false flag”. I am sitting in great anticipation of tomorrow’s witness.

    • hello jade good post you did and lets not forget this all started with FLORES how can he sit day after day and keep JM on a pedestal.

      • wonderful post jade..you have laid it all out..

        Dr. Geffner has to make the jury understand that when one is about to be killed that their brain goes to survival mode, rational, logical thinking is bypassed..the extreme fear, adrenaline rush and yes out of body experience that the victim of violence experiences.

        • You don’t even need an expert to state the obvious, that there is no EVIDENCE for premeditation.

          It matters not whether it was one week, one month, or one second. Without EVIDENCE, there is nothing.

          Can’t convict on premeditated murder. The fact the crime scene is gory has little to do with it.

          Lots and lots of murder scenes are nasty and gory, and lots and lots of defendants have gotten less than the DP for it.

    • The problem is Jodi can’t remember one thing about the killing. Not one thing. There is nothing to prove premeditation even there because there is NOBODY BUT JODI who can say what happened.

      And she can’t remember it.

      Once again reasonable doubt.

      No evidence for premeditation.

      • You don’t need Geffner to explain this even though he will.

        That’s what you are missing in your analysis.

        You have only one living witness to the killing, Jodi, who cannot remember what happened after she shot Travis.

        Without other eyewitnesses or forensic evidence to prove premeditation, you can’t prove there was even a spur of the moment decision of premeditation.

        Epic fail.

    • “Without him convincing at least one juror that this was without question the likelihood and supported by this scene resembling a St. Valentine’s Day massacre, the few seconds premeditation required by Arizona law will have been established.”–With all due respect, this is utter nonsense. There has been no proof of any “few seconds premeditation” by JM. It’s all speculation.

      You seem not to understand American criminal law, which says one is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    • BTW, people here have talked about the spur-of-the-moment bullshit Arizona law since the beginning of this site.

      I will say it again: if premeditation can’t be proven no matter how long or short the period before the killing, you can’t convict.

    • The out-of-body experience state of mind could also explain the intruder story – it may have actually been what Jodi thought really happened for some period of time after june 4,08.

  73. Jodi, was sucked into Travis Alexanders sexual vortes, his lies, he is a embarrassment to all religions. He was a professional manipulator, a narcissistic, and sociopathic behaviors. Jodi was innocent and fell for his lying manipulating behaviors. She made a mistake.

    • She should have thrown that stupid ppl dvd in the garbage. Not only did he use her huge love for him to segregate her and use her for his sexual demands, but he also had her bound spiritually with that Mormon church, and financially with PPL, where only the fat cats at the top like ch and travis make their money off other people and their work.

      • ok so she got gas cans she rented a car she changed her hair she had ryan burns but she did not kill him for 13 hrs she love him for 13 hrs so where is the premeditation

        • Tonya, it’s that “ANY length of time” clause that is deceiving. This could be only seconds prior to committing the crime. If Jodi had said she reached for the gun in order to KILL him after he began chasing her, that would have been classified as premeditation according to the law. She, however DID NOT state this , she stated that she grabbed the gun and pointed it at him in hopes that just POINTING a gun in his face would STOP him. Therefore, KILLING him was not forethought, it was self defense because he DID NOT stop in his tracks but kept charging at her. Pulling the trigger was instantaneous, not premeditated.

    • eb, you confused me with the “Jared”…lol because your reply isn’t attached to Jade’s post, I looked for jared on this thread and lol couldn’t figure out to which commenter you were referring…thank you for clearing it up…

  77. jodi did not kill him at 4pm when she got there she did not kill him when he fell asleep she did not kill him when they woke up and had sex she did not kill him in the shower she did not have defence at her side when FLORES got ahold of her yet she paid money to PPL to protect her where the hell were they then she had to tell the jury she accidentally killed him because she was fighting a loosing battle with the PPL the Mormans and the kkk clan out to get her and her family I would have said that to anybody would if it came to me or my family I would take the fall be convicted even face the DP so do you see how she feels now anyway the judge, JM and flores needs some travis treatment when this is over he liked it in the ass and I hope they get it in the ass

    • Let him tell his kids what a lousy investigation he did in a death penalty case. His history has been written, and he didn’t even investigate the roommates, he became complacent. That is why people get removed from their jobs, they do just enough to get by. I would fire his ASS in about 2 seconds, he damn sure would not get a 8 second ride. Your FIRED mr. Flores.

    • Tonya! Loved your last sentence…”…I hope they get it in the ass” . Ya know, that expression says it ALL! Getting it in the ass is NOT a pleasurable experience for the receiver. As a matter of fact, it implies …pain. Why were these woman so agreeable to it? It mustn’t have been sexually gratifying for these women! I guess if you like anal sex…join the LDS/Mormons! YIKES!

  79. Very astute, Jade. You just made me realize that Juan knows he doesn’t have a leg to stand on for lengthy premeditation so he needs some sort of evidence that she had another choice but in a split second decided to kill him. I hope Geffner pulls that rug right out from under him and that JM disappears in a whirling vortex right up Dr. Drew’s’ ass. Or Nance’s.

  80. Im catholic and I sure did not follow the rules and im sure that mimi and deanna and all the others did not follow the rules either if you have harmons and I know they did they were subject to a ass fuck*** from travis and they can lie lie lie but it will not do any good

    • Of all these ex-girlfriends, I think Mimi Hall is the one that didn’t go for TA’s bullshit. You could just tell that she wasn’t into him at all. Now, I do think that Deanna and Lisa were definitely knocking the boots with TA. Probably all the “others” may have been as well – or at least he tried too. I can guarantee you that he had developed a really shady reputation among the Mormon community – not marraige material, but a womanizer.

      • your wrong about mimi she got the ass treatment too that is why she told flores she did not know anything about jodi then took the stand and lied her ass of she got a good doggi from travis the t dog

        • She was just keeping the rumor going that TA had told her about Jodie and the doggie door. She feel right into believing TA’s bullshit stories about his ex’s being stalkers. Just like he told Jodie that Deanna was crazy. Hard to believe this guy actually operated like this on a daily basis.

  82. if she premeditated it why the hell did she not use the gas to burn the house down if she was so inraged over the fact that he would not take her to cancun why did she not get him up after they slept and take him to the woods and tie his ass to a tree and burn him why did she not do a lot of things because she did not kill him chris and sky hughes had him killed because he molested there oldes son and now he is on dr drew telling everyone that jodis going to hurt there kids daaaaaaaaaa 🙄

    • Cases involving both gas and guns are most always a public defender’s worst nightmare.

    • Well right. And if she wanted to destroy evidence via burning, then there’s plenty of other more portable fuels she could have used. Propane comes in smaller bottles and is easier to tote around. Why lug around five gallon gas cans?

  83. fixin spaghetti tonite it was fast and good to eat and will make my absents for the site quicker to get back here and comment

    • tonya…

      I had left-over spaghetti from Milano’s tonight…yummy…at least we’re getting our carbs and protein…need all that mental energy watching the trial tomorrow…LOL…

        • tony…we love chicken too…

          The innocence of youth…my youngest son ate so much chicken when he was younger… that one day I jokingly told him that he was going to turn into a chicken…

          And not too long after that…he came running through the house flapping his arms as little tiny bits of paper tapped all over his head, shirt, arms, jeans, and shoes was fluttering about…and he was giving it a go at the clucking sound too…he was just about this good…

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ_Mt7Zm5hM

          It was hilarious…too bad I didn’t have my video out at the time…I believe we could have made some money for that performance…LOL…

    • HLN is the biggest blunder in this case. Their behavior is deplorable.and contemptible.

        • Well, Tony, I don’t watch HLN. What I do see is what anyone here has said about them or any links I was unfortunate to have clicked … I have learned, through my mistakes, to look for the “hln” in the links prior to clicking on them. I do not want to up their ratings. 😉

    • The biggest blunder was allowing HLN to interfere and stir public outrage about a situation they knew nothing about.

      I wonder how STUPID they feel now, knowing that they took the Alexander family and friends for their word, knowing that they were LIED to; and that it all came out that nothing Travis presented himself to be was real. Talk about a thousand eggs on their faces!

      The worst part is not only do they persist on defending Travis’ image which is fraudulent, they defend him despite that he was an abuser, a racist, a homophobe, a con artist, a religious fraud, a womanizer, and a liar. That’s just a small handful of qualities on his laundry list of character flaws.

      HLN bungled this case, so so badly. They bungled the Casey Anthony case, but the shit they have pulled with this one by far exceeds their worst day on that one. I wonder how they feel, knowing that the only kind of audience they will ever attract are people who are impossibly dense. Or maybe they like that, so they feel a sense of control over them.

      I am not going over there to post this comment. Why would I, knowing they come over here anyway being so obsessed with what we think? Not that I haven’t smiled at the thought of doing a little shit stirring for as many times as they have harassed us here – but I refuse to stoop to their level, which is somewhere between layers of primordial ooze and the Pleistocene.

    • Biggest blunder on that page is Miz Mavis Trahan. She stated: “he (CH) said he was very happy that a “blunder” question by the defense allowed him to get before the jury that the reason he didn’t like Jodi was because she murdered his best friend in cold blood! Now THAT was a blunder by the defense!”

      CH did NOT testify in front of the jury. This dingbat thinks the jury heard CH say JA murdered his friend in cold blood. They did not.

  86. At the end of the day, the thing that pisses me off more than anything else is that a young lady may lose her life to people manipulating and lying and causing judicial fuckery in a kangaroo court. Here is my favorite example:

    Nurmi: You were asked if it was Dr Horn’s opinion that this rendered the victim unconscious or did he still remain concious. Pretty specific question, right?
    Flores: Yes
    Nurmi: And you answered “He said it would possibly have rendered the victim unconscious but definitely could have been concious”, correct?
    Flores: Yes
    Nurmi: You were also asked, but in the circumstances, based on all the other injuries, it was his opinion that it did not render him unconscious, correct?
    Flores: Yes
    Nurmi: And you say that you “misunderstood” Dr Horn? That is your testimony here today?
    Flores is ruled non-responsive by the judge (403).
    Nurmi repeats the question.
    Flores: Yes.
    Nurmi: You put this “misunderstanding” first in your police report, right?
    Flores: Yes.
    Nurmi: And second time, under oath, and giving sworn testimony, you perpetrated the same “misunderstanding”, correct?
    Flores: Yes.
    Nurmi: And then again you did it while being interviewed on national television, is that correct?
    Flores: Yes, that is what I believed.

  87. For some reason, this site is not allowing me to copy and paste the URL link to the article I wrote for SJ way back in January. The URL is simply a link to the article dated on January 19, 2013 straight from this website. In that article, I articulated the critical significance of the sequence of weapon use. I knew back then that this was going to be a very hot topic for the duration of the trial after Dr. Horn’s ‘expert’ testimony.

    Search for my name in the Search bar near the top Eric Falk or just visit the link to the article posted on January 19, 2013.

    LINK ADDED: https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/juan-martinez-blows-it-testimony-in-the-jodi-arias-trial-disproves-premeditation-jodi-arias-innocent

    • David…you can probably copy and paste certain paragraphs that pertain to sequence of the weapon use…and once you paste it here then put it in [quote]…or you can take out any excess words and shorten it down to get it right to the point to leave it on this page for the ones who cannot find it over there…

  88. Here’s how sad it is. All of the Alexander’s family, the hughes clan, and the pack, know for sure that things that have been revealed has been embarrassing, granted, maybe they didn’t know or maybe they did. Nobody knows for sure. But all of the clan is willing to allow a woman to be put to death. Anyone of the sorry bitches and bastards could have come forward and said i made a mistake instead of villifying everybody. His family COULD have came forward, WE WANT THE DEATH PENALTY! Their brother was fked up Travis Alexanders family should have considered all the evidence. God forgives everybody. They have the opportunity to say, maybe i did not know my brother, maybe we made a mistake, why??? because they were not there.. Travis alexanders family was not there, they were VACANT, VACANT, VACANT. Obivously none of their sorry ass’s have been called to the stand. Why, because they don’t know, they were vacant in their own shelfish desires. They are despicable!

    • well said eb 🙄

      then to top that off they went for the $$$$$$$$ and got the kkk clan to get $$$$$$$ and chris hughes is on tonight the dr droppy drawers drew to get $$$$$$ and to make sure that the world and the jury hears him say jodis bad so bad she need to be put to death before she kills my kids. They dont want people to know that travis molested there son.

    • I hear you eb, I’ve wondered the same thing.

      Why LIE then try to perpetuate that LIE even though it’s been proven wrong? What is the point in that? They look foolish. They look just like HLN that keeps arguing points that have been proven false.

  89. Here take a breath of this. Jaun Martines, florez, the so called travis alexander family, ?? ha, you will all go down in infame as hateful losers. All of your religions should be ashamed of you. Including mine, i do have one. JOKERS

  90. The travicites have had several days to infiltrate their hatred upon society. It is my sincere hope and faith in the jurors who must, not only, “remember the admonition”, but abide by it, that they have been true and honest. With that being said, I look forward to tomorrow!
    Does trial start at 9am tomorrow…I think I recall the Judge mentioning 9am, but I am not certain to which day she was referring?
    Anyone know what time it is scheduled to start?

        • i try to keep this site going, the family is under so much diress at this time, they probly can’t even think, just assuming, but we said we would have there back. If it was my child i would be in melt down. But we need to R-A-L-L-Y and really support Jodi and her family, right now. Come on!!!!! LET’s go team jodi, team jodi!!!!!!!! Someone has to help Jodi and her family, Lets go team Jodi> God loves you and so do i. GO, GO, GO, TEAM JODI. WE ARE NOT GIVING UP!

  91. Hello, fellow Jodi supporters. The strangest thing happened to me today after work. I popped into Walmart to pick up a few things, and while I was getting ready to enter the store, I was approached by one of our local Bailiffs. He asked me for my name and address and told me I had to be in court tomorrow morning to report for jury duty. I was stunned and thought surely he must be kidding. I have only been called once in my life for jury duty, but I was notified by mail in advance of the time I had to be in court. So bizarre!

    This totally bums me out because I was really looking forward to being able to catch at least bits and pieces of the trial tomorrow. I’ll be coming here after court tomorrow to catch up on what happened. I hope and pray tomorrow is a great day for Jodi’s defense!

    • That not only sounds strange…but fishy…bailiffs do not approach people at Walmart stores…and they do not approach people the day before a trial begins…you have ample notice time in order to clear it with your work place and make sure that your health permits you to sit in a court of law for hours at a time…

      You need to be careful the rest of the night and tomorrow…that person may be stalking you…now that he has your name and address…you need to go immediately to the police department…

      Report this to your local police…

      And if all of this is normal…then you must live in a small town where everyone knows everyone…LOL…

      • I would be very worried except for the fact that I work for a law firm and make almost daily trips to the courthouse, so I know all of the bailiffs by face, if not by name. I recognized the bailiff that approached me. I talked to my boss about it and she didn’t seem too shocked. She said they had quite a few trials scheduled in Superior Court this week. Yes, I live in a very small town–only in Podunk, USA would this sort of thing happen!!! 🙂 Sheesh!

        • SD…this if your first story that you posted…and you got sympathizers from many of us….

          your first post…[quote]Hello, fellow Jodi supporters. The strangest thing happened to me today after work. I popped into Walmart to pick up a few things, and while I was getting ready to enter the store, I was approached by one of our local Bailiffs. He asked me for my name and address and told me I had to be in court tomorrow morning to report for jury duty. I was stunned and thought surely he must be kidding. I have only been called once in my life for jury duty, but I was notified by mail in advance of the time I had to be in court. So bizarre![quote]

          SD…then you responded back to us with your second story…

          your second post…[quote]I would be very worried except for the fact that I work for a law firm and make almost daily trips to the courthouse, so I know all of the bailiffs by face, if not by name. I recognized the bailiff that approached me. I talked to my boss about it and she didn’t seem too shocked. She said they had quite a few trials scheduled in Superior Court this week. Yes, I live in a very small town–only in Podunk, USA would this sort of thing happen!!! Sheesh![quote]

          SD…I definitely would not have been concerned for your health and safety had you added that additional information that you included in your second post in with your first post…your first post is misleading and lacked the vagueness of meaning and understanding compared to your second post…

          Before you give me another scare for your health and safety…please put all the “itty bitty” details into your future post …you know we are crime solvers here…(smile)…

    • I am confident that this either is a scam or you are being set up for another purpose. It may even involve identity theft. I suggest that you never give a stranger your personal information, especially in a place like Walmart. I would have told the person where to go and it would not have been to pass Go, but to proceed directly to jail.

      • Call the police immediately. You would be notified by mail. Never, ever, ever would a bailiff approach you at Wal Mart.

        • WTF? Approached at Walmart? And asked your name and address?? Whoaaaa….that does NOT sound right at all! I have never ever heard of a bailiff coming up to you in a store with jury info. I have been on a jury and I was notified by mail, had to call in with my “secret number”, and got the info about 4-6 weeks before trial was ever set to begin. If someone came up to me in a store, I would call the cops. Sounds really weird IMHO. How did the bailiff even know you were there? Or who you were? Strange.

        • SD-
          Well, let us know tomorrow what happen. I Hope everything goes well. Take care though.

        • Maybe it is a random thing if they need more jurors? Like go to Walmart, ask every 10th person that walks thru the door. Very unique! I definitely want to hear what happens.

    • SD do you live in Washington for Oregon? Some similar things going on there and not going into it all but cya and report how your were approached to authorities. If you gave the people your information and extended to your email address . . change your password immediately.

      • No, cb. Like I said, if I hadn’t recognized the bailiff and the other bailiffs that were standing in front of Walmart, I would have NEVER given him any personal information, uniform or not. It’s almost comical to think about it now, the way they were all out there just approaching folks that walked up there. At first, I thought he was going to tell me not to enter Walmart because some criminal activity was going on in there or something that might endanger me. Still so weird. I asked him why they didn’t have a jury pool and he didn’t know why or wouldn’t tell me why.

        • That is still weird. I would say that he legally can’t hold you to it…there’s no written summons for jury duty.

          • Nope, he sure didn’t. It will be interesting tomorrow to find out what happened to the jury pool so as to prompt a Superior Court Judge to send bailiffs out to Walmart to gather potential jurors. I have been told by my boss and others that this particular Judge is a bit eccentric.

            • How did the bailiffs know whom to approach? Everyone isn’t eligible to be on a jury. You have to be a registered voter to be in the jury pool, I am actually worried about this. It just seems so bizarre, like a scam of some sort. Especially asking for your home address….I would freak out.

    • Unless he handed you something in writing, from the court, don’t go.

      If in doubt, call the court tomorrow.

  92. i WILL NOT LIE DOWN, HAS TO BE A COPY TUNE, WILL EXPLAIN MUCH MORE LATER. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT-4Frf4avg Hell, i will do it now, bought tickets to lv, spent 1600 for tickets to don henley,he whined that he would never appear in lv again. 8 of us stood up and told him to just shut the fuck up and sing. what a asshole, thats why the eagles couldn’t make it. he is a jerk, will not pay for a ticket again, thats my review. that was off topic, the point i was trying to make was, our family anthem is “i will not go quietly” beautiful song, sorry performer.

  93. I know that some of you may be tired of seeing the repetition of my original post, but to put it in the esteemed words of Dr. Janeen Demarte, and in deference to her superb clinical and scientific skills that predated her licensure, I need “more data points.” I thought it would be pertinent to “highlight” my scientifically based desire for a few more of them thar “data points.” So, begging your pardon, I’ll copy my post from yesterday. I have a sample of 30 respondents and would really like to have 40-50, if some of you previously lurking folks would consent to participate.

    **In the comments section on the preceding page for April 28, I posted the following request. It was either very late or very early for most people. Nonetheless nearly 30 people responded and you can read their inputs near the bottom of the comments section. If you have not yet participated, I would really welcome and appreciate your taking part in an effort to evaluate what might be called “group consciousness.” Post your comments here if you prefer.

    ***I am a licensed psychologist with more than 21 years of experience (since licensure) in dealing with individuals suffering from severe and persistent mental disorders. Prior to that time, I spent about 10 years in academia as a professor and another 6 years as a hypnotherapist. I have been thinking a lot about why so many people around the country either believe that Jodi must be guilty of premeditated murder or are convinced that the prosecution has proven premeditation beyond reasonable doubt.

    Nearly 75% of the American population falls in one very broad psychological category. Thus a little over 25% of Americans fall into the opposing category. I believe that the majority of the people on this site will fall in the latter category while the majority of the people on the opposing sites advocating justice for TA will fall in the major category. Thus, I would like to check this out with your help. It will take about 10 minutes of your time and requires only anonymously completing a questionnaire online. I would appreciate if you would post your results here. They will be in the form of 4 letters. You will have a percentage associated with each letter. Please report all of the percentages not just the four letters describing your results. For example, here are my results:

    I (44%), N (100%) F (88%) P (67)%

    Thanks a lot. I will report the general results here. If you would like interpretation of your personal results, I will be happy to provide a brief interpretation and directions to more information via email. You can, of course, get my email from SJ.

    Here is the link to the questionnaire. I have used this in other research related to political orientation, as well. When you finish the questionnaire, the system will score it for you and your results will be immediately available.

    http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp

      • eb: Glad you didn’t read my post on a bad day 😉

        I have been commenting here for quite some time. Not a newcomer.

      • WOW! What the hell was that Eb? All he did was post a personality test, the same one he posted yesterday. Why in the world are you being like that to him?

        • Eb is just in a bad mood I guess Anna. I do hope you’re well and fine this evening Ms Ryan.:-)

    • way over my head im just a high school graduate and barely got that with d’s just passing so to your questionaire you will have to find someone else to help and i have had one computer killed by the kkk so can not and will not open your http web site

      • Hey, Tonya. Since you are wary of clicking on links, I cut and pasted this little blurb from wikipedia for you about the INFP personality type:

        I – Introversion preferred to extraversion: INFPs tend to be quiet and reserved. They generally prefer interacting with a few close friends rather than a wide circle of acquaintances, and they expend energy in social situations (whereas extraverts gain energy).[6]
        N – Intuition preferred to sensing: INFPs tend to be more abstract than concrete. They focus their attention on the big picture rather than the details, and on future possibilities rather than immediate realities.[7]
        F – Feeling preferred to thinking: INFPs tend to value personal considerations above objective criteria. When making decisions, they often give more weight to social implications than to logic.[8]
        P – Perception preferred to judgment: INFPs tend to withhold judgment and delay important decisions, preferring to “keep their options open” should circumstances change.[9]

    • gulliver 🙄

      OK this is what I think happened someone gave the hughes proof that travis molested there oldes son and they asked there son was this true and he said yes this would have been in may now they are mad and plan the revenge on travis they probable knew about the gun being stolen from the grandparents house because of the statements by dan hall and others that called jodi the hughes brother introduses jodi to ryan and they envite her to be at his house on the 4th but jodi went to travis house instead and all hell broke loose the intruders had hoods on they were suprised that jodi was there they knew she was to be with ryan if chris and sky were the ones in the house or they had someone else do it. they shot travis and knock her out when she comes too she is confronted by them have to go back to her story of the intruders now they let her go she goes to ryans and he and dan hall meet her at a restraunt or meeting but before she is ready to leave she is asked to go 4 wheeling this is the chance to kill her but she say I have to work and does not then they fix her lic plate and the cop stops her rayan is in back of her when this happen then she gets home and mom says people are calling saying she is crazy and needs treatment. she is envited to go camping get a 9mm gun but does not go another attemp to kill her now the 911 call travis is found 5 days later why house is open door policy and the cover up is on the way for 5 days a mentions of computer broken someone shows up at the house with a lab top to point jodi out with a photo Dustin also arives also Dan hall was called by the hughes to ask about travis and more and more and flores is told jodi did it why to cover up the real killers the hughes are on the cancun trip so they only have to talk on the phone while everyone goes into the jodi did it then flores gets the ashley reed saying her husband knew or may have done it then changed her mind then the flores report and all the stuff we know now with the breakdown that something was a foot sherlock homes was not in charge I can go on and on but this is what happens next she tells matt what happened to her at travis house and he was with her for 2 yrs till ashley’s death and 4 months latter her story changed because someone must have threaten matt or his family would be hurt jodi’s family was getting threats too her sister said someone said some really bad things to her daughter or that is what I read and to the self defence it was not from travis but from chris and sky hughes remember she told the jury that she said her sister was stupid because she was on drugs and in an abusive relationship and jodi was in the same with travis but he was killed for touching someones kid sexually and that is what killed him that is why she told the story of travis masterbating to little boy picture if he did not get it from the computer he got it from chris and sky hughes house he was always spending the nite with them and if he snuck in to see jodi and have sex with her he could have done the same to the hughes kid well that is what I think and the cards said and god showed me on easter sunday and I will hope that god will help her find a way to prove my theory on this someone will talk or something will point in that direction the trial has done everything to keep the hughes out of this and she is being railroaded to the DP has to happen to keep her from talking just hope no one kills her before that happens if you think im an on to something lets talk about it because the way this trail is now there is no way she can get a fair trial and ryan burns invited jodi to his house when she went to the restraunt dan hall was there and he has made statements about her they knew things before flores did ryan says this in the flores report page 20 ???

        • i know we have to stick with what we’ve got now but she never had a chance she paid money for PPL to protect her and she did not get her moneys worth did she so anyone out there thinking of joing PPL better think twice and remember how it helped jodi

          • That’s what I think Tonya!
            Seriously!
            That’s the only thing that makes sense.
            There isn’t ONE person that talks kind of Jodi and
            none of them really know her.

            They sure were different when trying to get her to be Mormon and then also PPL.
            Then all of a sudden they talk about her behind her back like she was this evil person.
            If my boy friend was in another room talking to the hughes about me for 3 hours, I would have been pissed.
            These people are all lying, two faced, hypocrite bastards.

    • Gulliver, last time I took M-B test myself I was an ENTP. I am also certified in administering the MBTI, and have spent a lot of time with it over the years. If you want results only thru your test I can try to take it tomorrow – just remind me.

      • Yes, Seek, I would appreciate if you would give this form of the test a try.

      • Thanks, Rainy, out of the 36 people who reported their results thus far, 11 are INFJ’s like you. This is 30.5% whereas the percentage of INFJ’s in the general population is estimated to be only 1.5% on the original MBTI. Of course, the tests are different, but they appear to be moderately correlated.

    • My score is:

      Introvert(78%) iNtuitive(25%) Feeling(12%) Judging(44%)
      You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (78%)
      You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (25%)
      You have slight preference of Feeling over Thinking (12%)
      You have moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (44%)

  94. I am still stuck on this hair color thing for Jodi. Aren’t there an awful lot of people who could testify that Jodi’s hair was brown before June 3rd? Also the salon where she got her nails done could say she didn’t get her hair colored. Why a mystery about something easy to set straight?

      • i dye my hair all the damn time, its $5.00 at the $$$$the dollar store, I never know what color any of my 3 daughters, or my 7 teenager and unmarried is going to show up with, its always a surprise. NO HARM and NO FOUL> Guarding, the goal post, jodi, some body help me.

        • all the time, and i have to be practice client.i just give up. some days it even shocks me, but i play, they have to practice somewhere, i do tell them, ok that was fun, but you have to change it. guiani pig, don’t u know, lol

    • it does not matter when where how she has the right to color her hair if she wants to and she did maybe she did it so it would excite travis into thinking that she was little red riding hood with brown hair or she did it because she got tired of the ruts maybe someone said to her go back to your natural color it has nothing to do with premeditating the murder because she died her hair

      • Yes, but why is there any question about it? She said she dyed it earlier so wouldn’t that be easy to clarify with various people? And then the prosecutor wouldn’t be able to keep bringing it up as an issue. Even if she got rid of the highlites closer to June 4th, it should be easy to prove Jodi didn’t have that real blond look that was in her driver license photo.

        • There were pictures taken of her during that time, including one with her family’s dog. Her hair was noticeably darker than previously.

        • seeks2, as recent as earlier today Al linked the grandfather’s May ’08 police break-in report. Jodi’s dark hair color was commented in that also.

          It’s a distraction from JM to send ’em hunting for FLY shit to pick out of the pepper b/c he’s got little else in his bag o’ tricks. (Thanks for the laugh eb)

      • who gives a crap, she could do anything she wanted to. People need to stop picking the FLY shit out of the pepper!

    • She started dying her hair brown in March of 2008. I am guessing she may have dyed it more than once to get it a darker brown or she dyed it to a caramel brown and in the 5 past years, it just got a whole lot darker (back to her actual hair color) because she has been in jail! 🙂

      But I guess it’s just an irrelevant issue. The haters keep harping on it because they have nothing else to harp on. But her hair still had some blonde highlights, I guess that is why you keep hearing, I think she was blonde, I think she was a brunette…. blah blah blah from witnesses.

      I didn’t get to watch every single minute of the trial, but I have’t really heard JM harp on the issue. I’ve just heard HLN and the masses harp on it. I guess Nurmi and Willmott did not find it necessary to bring in a witness just to refute that point because it’s just no relevant 🙂

        • haha, no that is okay seek2understand! I totally get it! 😀

          Okay, so the reason why JM harped on it is because he seriously has no premeditation case. (This is my best guess).

          I am guessing he has to find any reason to indicate that she premeditated this murder so he is grasping at straws! 😀

          The defense just decided to ignore it because they didn’t want to give in to JM’s grasping at straws tactic 😀

          • It sounds like something so easy to set straight & take off the table. Jodi said she dyed it earlier, so if they showed that is true, one more part of her testimony where JM was wrong that she lied. I also think they could do more on the gas cans, and they have chosen not to. I think these items are important in verifying Jodi’s credibility & proving she told the truth under oath – chipping away at JM saying she is a liar. I guess DT doesn’t have the resources.

            • She borrowed the gas cans from a friend and returned a kerosene can. Nothing there.

        • jm brought up alot of other lies, if you had been paying attention to the trial, you would have known it was a LIE. anything else?

        • Seek,
          Why dont you check out the link Al posted on the previous post.
          Its the Police Report from Yreka CA when her grandparents house was broken into.
          It states her hair was BROWN.
          No if an’s or but’s about it.
          Question answered.

    • It’s all smoke and mirrors by Guano because he has no case for premeditation.

      That’s what happens when you are taken in by a con, and then you are forced to have your officials commit perjury under oath once you got yourself in it too deep.

      • I hope so. We don’t know much about the jurors, though. This trial is being held in a very conservative area. I totally agree with you that it looks like an easy win for the DT, but we don’t know. I think to play it safe, the DT should have hit every item that came up about pre-meditation & shot it down. They have chosen the abuse angle, which I thought was great, but I hope it is enough when the jurors review those autopsy photos.

        • I don’t trust those jurors as far as I can throw them, especially when they didn’t screen them out for Mormon beliefs, but even if the worst happens, the case will be thrown out on appeal.

    • First…I would like to say that I know that Jodi has told some lies and she eventually admitted to telling those lies…and then Jodi told the truth and she has been consistently been consistent with telling the truth during this trial…

      And when Jodi testified to her hair being blonde previously then she dyed it brown before she ever went to Travis’ house…then I would believe Jodi without any doubt…

      I believe that the reason that JM has not capitulated on this is for the very reasons below…it wasn’t possible for her to get a hair service at a nail salon…and he knows it….and that is the very reason that day in trial that he showed those pictures for the jury to see…the pictures didn’t make any sense to us because we already knew the time frame when the pictures were made….but for the jury…they wouldn’t know…and unless any of the jury members are experts at hair and nail shops and licensing for either or both…then they will only believe or not believe the evidence that JM showed them…and JM was very misleading….

      And a logical answer to one of your thoughts…Maybe the salon where Jodi had her nails done was only a nail salon and not a hair salon…

      In our part of the US…we see only oriental Asian women that manage the nail shops and they really do an awesome job with both the manicures and pedicures…they have Nail Technology license…

      And there are just a limited few hair salons that offer a limited nail service in their hair salons…and mostly they only do manicures…not pedicures…and they would have to have licensing for both Cosmetology and Hair Technology to offer both services…

      Nail Technology license would be required for the women who are operating their nail salons…and additional licensing if they offer more services…in our parts you just don’t see nothing more than the Nail Technology license…

      My analogy of a hair salon and a nail salon…it’s like owning a Ford car and a Kia car…both cars park comfortably into the same garage at the house…but both cars come from two different automobile dealers…

        • Now don’t worry anymore what that azzhole is doing in trial…he is grappling at straws when it comes to hair color and nail salons…

          I have much expertise in this field and I can clarify most anything…

  95. hay guess what I use to die my hair all the time and now I dont even brush it anymore does that make me a cold blooded killer

  96. I repeat this is a death penalty case, don’t care about anybodys opinion about hair color. Can you just focus for one M_I_N_U_T_E. Its about premeditaion sp (pissed lol). Jodi did not do anything until she was attacked. fuck the sex, fuck the car, Jodi was attacked, why can’t you get it. why is the hair color important. IN MY OPINION, ITS IRRELEVENT, i am really trying to be nice. ( not so much) i just want you to get the point.

    • back off i do get the point and i have the right to say what ever the hell i what to say about hair

      • no offence was ever meant to you, i have always respected your opinion and your analysis. when things are posted it comes out in a different place and it is misinterperted. have always been on jodis side

      • team jodi
        re
        eb says:
        April 30, 2013 at 8:29 pm

        team jodi my recommendation is that as eb is too arrogant, intolerant and bullying to remain here

        he be either banned permanently, or for whatever period you decide, to give him time to reflect on his obnoxious abuse that he just displayed here
        my preference given his post is that he be banned permanently

        his post speaks for itself

        i have copied and pasted the offending material

        don’t care about anybodys opinion about hair color.[ intolerant of others right to speak, …]
        Can you just focus for one M_I_N_U_T_E. [ belittling, bullying, condescension]
        Jodi did not do anything until she was attacked. [that’s unknown to anyone here]
        fuck the sex, fuck the car [ threatening swearing, bullying]
        why can’t you get it. [belittling. ]
        i am really trying to be nice. ( not so much) [ the mixed message alyce laviolette talked about]
        i just want you to get the point.[ more bullying, condescension. intolerance ]

        • He is just telling the truth. So much talk about everything . She didn’t kill TA until her life was in danger. Pray the jury sees it clearly .

    • eb,

      truthseeker asked a question, people respond. Truthseeker did not say that they didn’t think Jodi dyed her hair brown, they were just wondering why a witness was not called to testify that her hair was in fact already brown before June 3rd since JM implied that Jodi dyed her hair to disguise herself.

      Truthseeker has been around from the start. Relax! People are just discussing things. That is what this website if forum.

      Turthseeker has always been an adamant supporter of Jodi.

      • Sorry, just read a post by truthseeker! That is why he/she was on my mind.

        I meant, seek2understand. They have been around always and always supported Jodi. I apologize for mentioning the wrong name

        • thanks for that correction NK…you know I support Jodi 100% and plus….

          I posted just a minute ago a comment to seek2understand….

          • haha, wait… I totally know you support Jodi 100% and plus, and you have also been here from day 1. I just referred to the wrong person, and I was clarifying for eb that seek2understand has been here from day one.

            I apologize! bleh. I have a final tomorrow so my mind is elsewhere

      • SJ – feel free to remove this, if you think it is un-savory for the site. -s2u

    • eb – why don’t you take a chill pill ?? You are being a bit rude in your posts tonight. We are all Pro-Jodie on here, so I really don’t understand your need to be screaming at everyone. We can all speak freely and have individual opinions. SJ allows each of us that luxury. Really don’t get the attitude.

      • that was rude, trying to keep thread running for jodi, that is all, sorry it offended you it was not my intent to anybody, the point is young people dye their hair. thats it. it is not murder.

  97. Folks are getting heated here and I don’t want us to crumble.

    Its just going to get worse.

    Lets keep calm and carry on.

    we must.

    • *hugs* Renee.

      Your name popped up on facebook the other day! I think it is because I was friends with Jodi. (before she deactivated her account)

    • I see that Renee! geeez…..I came on just a few minutes ago, trying to unwind and relax after a shitty day. I am now more revved up and anxious than I was before I got here. Sigh. Maybe some of us are a little on edge, a bit snippy due to the fact that it’s “crunch time” and people are nervous. I don’t know, but it seems like we should be MORE supportive of each other now, not nit-picking and attacking. People here bring up different parts of the trial that they are thinking of, positive and negative. Its natural at this point, after all, we have watched the whole thing, had almost a full week with no court, and the verdict is days away. We should ALL be able to discuss our hopes, worries, fears, ideas, comments with the comfort of knowing we are all in the same boat. This is certainly not the time to attack one another. I am already thinking ahead to when we have a verdict…and whatever it may be….I fear we will be bombarded with haters on this site. I expect it. For now, we have each other.

      • I totally agree Anna! We have to remember not to let our emotions rule our minds. We’ve all been pretty much living this trial for sure. There are some very kind and awesome people here I want to remain friends with no matter what happens.:-)

  98. NO ONE CONSIDERED PMS when mine came I wanted to kill and the doc gave me pill for it

    • Thx, I read through this. At least they checked for fingerprints – when my neighbor’s house was burglarized, she asked & the police said no. I wonder about the footprint. I didn’t see if they determined the shoesize on that.

      • Oh, yes, & Jodi’s hair listed as brown. Can’t beat it, right in a police report! Thx!!

  102. look did not get to have that sig my brother is calling for his room and wants me to get off his computer so my last words to you all be nice to the ones that come here a lot and try not to step on anyones toes we all have a right to say what is on our mine if it gets to heated change the subject talk about the camera or the gun or the judge or JM or the kkk im going to watch chris hughes on dr drew and see what shit he is spewing tonite and the nasty nancy with the mom and dad videos or whatever she has cooked up for the masses love you all lots of hugs :heart:

      • eb…

        I posted again for you and others to read…and the reason is that a lot of people including us know that JM lied in court about Jodi’s hair color…but a lot of people do not know the truth behind JM lies…and below is some truth that I hope many people will understand…and if a jury member is reading this…then I hope they will at least glean some truth out of it…

        First…I would like to say that I know that Jodi has told some lies and she eventually admitted to telling those lies…and then Jodi told the truth and she has been consistently been consistent with telling the truth during this trial…

        And when Jodi testified to her hair being blonde previously then she dyed it brown before she ever went to Travis’ house…then I would believe Jodi without any doubt…

        I believe that the reason that JM has not capitulated on this is for the very reasons below…it wasn’t possible for her to get a hair service at a nail salon…and he knows it….and that is the very reason that day in trial that he showed those pictures for the jury to see…the pictures didn’t make any sense to us because we already knew the time frame when the pictures were made….but for the jury…they wouldn’t know…and unless any of the jury members are experts at hair and nail shops and licensing for either or both…then they will only believe or not believe the evidence that JM showed them…and JM was very misleading….

        And a logical answer to one of your thoughts…Maybe the salon where Jodi had her nails done was only a nail salon and not a hair salon…

        In our part of the US…we see only oriental Asian women that manage the nail shops and they really do an awesome job with both the manicures and pedicures…they have Nail Technology license…

        And there are just a limited few hair salons that offer a limited nail service in their hair salons…and mostly they only do manicures…not pedicures…and they would have to have licensing for both Cosmetology and Hair Technology to offer both services…

        Nail Technology license would be required for the women who are operating their nail salons…and additional licensing if they offer more services…in our parts you just don’t see nothing more than the Nail Technology license…

        My analogy of a hair salon and a nail salon…it’s like owning a Ford car and a Kia car…both cars park comfortably into the same garage at the house…but both cars come from two different automobile dealers…

        • love you, heres the problem with it, if you look in the video’s, not 48 hours, the other one where she is putting on her makeup. carefully ,you will see when jodi is talking, her hair was not professionally done. it was poorly done. She was talking to the camera people and when she bent over the lower hair was still blonde. She did not get her hair done that day, maybe a mini and a pedi, wax, but not the hair, she was in financial trouble. I also saw it in the florez interrogation. that’s why jodi smiled, she never had her hair done that day. She was going to let them hang theirselves, JM and she succeeded. I would not be surprised if the only thing she had done was a wax. She could have done the finger nails and toe nails her self. jmo

          • I don’t care if she changed her hair in rainbow colors, you would have still
            known it was Jodi.

  104. Good evening I’ve been reading some of the evidence on this case-again. I know many of you have posted that you think Travis slit his tires and Lisa’s tires. I agree with y’all. I believe he did it, and he sent Lisa the threatening email. If you read the email it sounds VERY similar to his texts and IMs to Jodi. He liked to use the word “whore” a lot and its in that email a lot. It’s in his voice if you understand me. I believe he sent her that email to scare Lisa and further victimize himself in her eyes. He had his tires slit two nights in a row, and he wasn’t afraid or wondering who did it? He did it. I think Travis was falling apart towards the end of his life. His female companions wouldn’t stick around. He would give different versions of how Jodi “stalked” him. It’s in Flores’ report. This is not my opinion. It’s in black and white. He told Mimi Jodi would break in the doggie door, but would tell his roommate she’d come in through the front unlocked door. He isolated Jodi from everyone because she knew too much about him. All his past companions broke up with him. He also told Jodi he wanted to marry Mimi even after Mimi told him she wasn’t interested. I think he manipulated women to a corner. He did it to Lisa and Jodi. I don’t know about Deanna or his other girlfriends, but he had the knack to “corner” them. He tried different things with Lisa, but she didn’t react quite like he wanted her to react-running to his arms and bonding more. The more you read everything in totality the clearer the picture becomes. I have no doubt Travis manipulated Jodi. He had been successful with her and he knew what buttons to push with her.

    • no doubt that Travis was a “Master at Manipulation” for both women and his friends including the mormon church…

      • Yes… He wanted Mimi to go to Cancun with him under the impression of friendship. But he told Jodi he wanted to marry her even after she wasn’t interested in him that way. Now, I found this to be very interesting. He wanted to “charm” her. He used Jodi’s name to gain sympathy from her. Mimi didn’t see him as a love interest though. He went beyond persistence in my opinion. He was very demanding and he used the “virginal Mormon” guise to gain trust from women. He was good. Mimi was going to go to Cancun with him! Think about that… And Mimi’s not enamored, BPD Jodi Arias.

        • yes…and two weeks before the trip Mimi told Travis that [quote] she didn’t want to be anything more than just friends and would understand if he wanted to take someone else with him to Mexico. It was too late to change plans, and they agreed to go as friends[quote] Flores page 5

          • I think Travis used that trip to lure and latch on to Mimi. The “friiend” narrative came from Mimi. He wanted to seduce her and lure her into the same web he used with Jodi. And if you notice his relationships all had the same push pull thing going on. Mimi wasn’t playing that game.

      • Truthseeker, reposting so you catch this! 😀

        haha, wait… I totally know you support Jodi 100% and plus, and you have also been here from day 1. I just referred to the wrong person, and I was clarifying for eb that seek2understand has been here from day one.

        I apologize! bleh. I have a final tomorrow so my mind is elsewhere

        • thanks NK…I saw it…my mind is in overdrive too…LOL…

          I am so happy that tomorrow is my day off…I will have both my desk computer and the laptop ready and waiting for the trial to begin…

    • And add on all his financial troubles, it’s really easy to understand how his temper and anger could have been really heightened around the time of the killing. Even Lisa mentioned his financial problems had caused trouble between them. I have no trouble envisioning this guy falling apart – his life really was heading in a downward spiral, IMO. And Jodie was his whipping post.

    • I could only find a few links with a picture of Travis Alexander’s dog, Napoleon…it doesn’t say what breed it is…the dog is small…and I am about the same height and size as Jodi and I can tell you right now that there would be no way in hell that I could wiggle into a small doggie door…we had a medium doggie door on our building out back for our miniature dog and it would not have been possible to wiggle through either…unless I was a small 3 or 4 year old…

      That is another of Travis’ famous lies…oh yes…I did say lies…he is a “Master at Lying” too…

      This is a picture of Napoleon…one of just a few links that show his picture…
      .
      http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/04/24/what-happened-travis-alexanders-dog

      • Yes! I knew he was a little dog and I always found that particular story odd. But he told it to Lisa. It defeats common sense. He lied a lot.

      • With the doors never being locked it is nonsense about Jodi crawling thru the doggy door.

        With the dog in the house the dog would surely know someone was crawling thru it and would have come running to check.

        Speaking about his dog, I have to feel that poor dog had to be going nuts during the time the brilliant roommates and their girlfriends were in and out of that house. Didn’t they take notice of any behavior changes and give a wonder? Even if they kept him behind the gate I’d have to think he’d be jumping at the gate and acting desperate to get up those stairs to find his master. Yet again, one more thing that makes no sense.

    • I got the feeling also that TA was really having a breakdown at that time & was desperate for attention, maybe even suicidal with a feeling of nothing to lose anymore.

      That email had a really crazy, obsessive religious bend. I definitely felt it did not sound like Jodi’s writing. It is possible it was TA’s.

  106. If anybody would like to read the transcript of the bellicose bastard grilling Jodi at the moment of crucial events on that day, here is the full written transcript. It is fascinating to read.

    You will see how disgusting and obvious it is that he is desperately trying to put his words into her mouth and trick her into agreeing to them. But she foils him at every single attempt. And you will see the desperation of repetitive questions trying to trap her into saying she had time to reflect on what she was doing which he must have for premeditation.

    Enjoy ………….. http://www.mediafire.com/view/?t87ddyn22kaylh1

    • Thanks Jade, It was SO much easier to read it than LISTEN to his annoying voice. Jodi was consistent in her testimony, even though JM tried his damnedest to trip her up. He threw in “the finger incident” as included with his June 4th questions…which made HIM sound like an idiot. And that lengthy questioning about the distance TA was away from JA when the gun was fired. “3 feet and 36 inches is 9 feet, right?” WTF was THAT all about? He was trying to confuse the jury. Back and forth, skipping here to there…then back to here again. If the jury is required to “recall the testimony” I hope they took some damned good notes… In such a lengthy trial, it is my opinion that the jury should be allowed to tee the transcripts of the trial. I expect there to be different recollections of all the testimony. I wonder if the court will make allowances…I hope they do, but doubt they will. Have there been many DP trials as lengthy as this?

      • I agree. The way she perfected every answer and held to the letter on her Direct testimony and wouldn’t let him trip her up was amazing. You can’t get that watching the video.

        When you take away all the theatrics and yelling and just see it in black and white, it shows she owned him. It had to be the most maddening witness he ever questioned in his life.

  107. Interesting.. From Nancy Grace January 22 2013

    GRACE: Well, I`m very concerned, Sandy in Idaho. I`m very concerned. I don`t know if you heard the questions from the jury last week.

    Out to you, Bonnie Druker. The questions from the jury very disturbing. In that jurisdiction, the jury is allowed to ask questions, as when I practiced law, they could ask questions. And the questions they were asking seemed to suggest that they believe his roommates could have been part of the murder, not Jodi Arias — asking about their alibis, were they questioned? A lot of questions about the roommates.

    Rita Cosby, is this going to play out just like tot mom and O.J. Simpson?

    RITA COSBY, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: You know what? Sadly, it could. And as you point out, the questions from the jury are, Where were the roommates? Didn`t they hear anything? Didn`t they see anything?

    And what`s so bizarre, Nancy, in this case, as we know, she had said from the opening statements from her defense — and we`re going to hear a lot more in a week — her defense attorney said she did it, but it was self- defense. But for some reason, the jury is having a hard time believing this small woman, this pretty woman, could have done this horrendous crime. It`s shocking, Nancy!

  108. Gulliver, my results with the percentages are:

    Introvert(44%) Sensing(1%) Feeling(38%) Judging(56%)

  109. What is wrong with this Hughes family?
    They are in another room telling Travis how dangerous Jodi is.
    Whispering about Jodi.
    This lasted about 3 hours?

    What was Jodi supposed to think? Then the asshole says he and his wife
    were worried about their children being around Jodi?
    WHAT?
    Say’s his wife has a sixth sense, BS, she has NO sense. None of those people do.
    Talking about Jodi like she was this terrible person.
    Actually, out of the whole city Jodi had to be the best.

    I’m tired of all the friends saying they tried to warn Trvis.
    That’s just total bullshit and I don’t believe any of them and the prosecutors trying to pull a fast one,
    He KNOWS she didn’t do it.

    The roommates in the house for 5 days and did their wash and the didn’t see the camera or blood.

    I think that they all should have been subpenoed.
    Especially ALL that went to Cancun and the roommates.
    They had 5 days before telling the detectives or calling 911 that before they
    left, they had a text saying Travis was dead.

    This looks like a big set up to me.
    I don’t trust the prosecter, judge or detectives in this case.
    They are the liars

      • In all seriousness SC…the decomp would have smelled greater than a house full of bullchyt…the experts said during another trial that decomp smell is something that you’ll never forget…and you just can’t get rid of the smell…

        • The pictures of tas body is in pretty good shape for being dead 5 days. I don’t comment alot in forums because if read and repeated to the wrong side, I don’t want to help them and some things have been approached but not hit on. This trial to me is off in an absolutely wrong direction in order to keep on track. Jodi needs all the help she can get. JMs disgusting manipulation of the law and his theatrics to get a conviction .he knows damn well isn’t right . . nothing short of an epiphany will make him human.

          • Possibly he want to follow in the footsteps ofJeff Ashton…Ashton has been said to be worth in the millions after prosecuting the Casey Anthony case…and Jeff Ashton was the one who got sympathy from his followers (the haters)…that Casey, George, and Cindy was making money off Caylees deaths…

            The day after the verdict was read…he announced that he resigned…and a few months later he released his book about the trial…then shortly after Lifetime Movie Network offered him a movie deal…and today said to be worth in the millions…and who made the money off Caylee’s death…none other than Jeff Ashton…it appears that he was the one who was in his counting house counting out his money…

            So JM can do the same…follow the yellow brick road…regardless if he wins or not…he stands a great chance in making millions off this case just like the other did…and already it’s said that LMN is waiting for the trial to be over to make this movie?…and I can just imagine that JM has a book already in the making too…

            In the link below Jeff Ashton made two interviews over the weekend of January 7, 2013…he said that he is ready to move beyond the Anthony case…now Ashton is a state attorney…

            They asked where Casey Anthony was at….and Ashton said…that he has a standard response… “I don’t know and I don’t care.”

            Ashton said the jury’s verdict “it is what it is.”

            http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-01-07/entertainment/os-casey-anthony-jeff-ashton-ready-to-move-on-20130107_1_imperfect-justice-jeff-ashton-casey-anthony-case

            The prosecutors really don’t care about the life of an innocent person…it’s like a false sense of basking in glory to edify their self worth to their flock of followers…

        • Mimi even stated on the witness stand that as soon as she entered the house on the night of the 9th she noticed a foul smell and thought the dog had had an accident. As she moved further into the house she comments again she noticed a bad smell. No way could those roommates and girlfriends not notice it.

          And the poor poor dog to have gone unnoticed. I have to believe his behavior was different as he could surely smell it and would have been desperate to get up those stairs.

      • I went out of town for 4 days. I got home last night and when I opened my front door I was hit with a smell that would curl up and burn off your nose hairs. (Mind you I live in a 1500k sq ft apartment, not quite the size of Travis’ underwater house) I had left some chicken in the fridge and it went bad. My entire apt stunk and it took hours to get the funky smell out. I was gagging. The chicken was in the fridge and still went bad and smelled foul. Travis’ body was in a bathroom on the other side of a wall shared with the loft. We have already been over the fact that they had to pass his room to get to their bedrooms. The house was air conditioned but the body was still rotting. The central air flowed throughout the house. These roommates kill me. How they can justify living with a body for days and not noticing a thing, and their girlfriends were there too!

      • And tons of blood right near the bedroom door. Not like someone took pills & was buried under the covers in bed.

    • And Aly don’t forget that Zach…one of the roommates…he told Flores that it was his day off work on Wednesday, June 4, 2008… and he was in and out of Travis’ house that day…

      And Jodi was upstairs in Travis’ bedroom…see nothing about the roommates makes any sense…

      And how does any of that figure into juando’s equation…he just skirted around it…

    • The Hugheses are liars. They were the people who warned Jodi about Travis, not the other way around.

      It has been proven by the emails they sent to Jodi and Travis and were mentioned in court thought not read verbatim.

    • Aly,

      I use my intuition all the time, and from day ONE I have never felt anything strange from Jodi. Ever.

      Strange from the Hughes and family and friends who bullied her, yes. I can sense domineering bullshit from a mile away.

      And Travis? If I were in the same vicinity as he was, I’d get as far away from him as possible. Even pictures of him as a little kid creep me out.

      I find it humorous that these people keep talking about energy, vibes, or feelings they get, when it’s clear that they don’t have that ability at all.

      IMO intuition is situationally honed – kind of like nurses who work in the profession so long they just “know” when a patient is getting ready to pass on? Kind of like that.

      The Travis Taliban live incredibly sheltered, self centered lives with no point of reference to measure, read, or know anything about the “energies” around them.

  110. I heard sky hughes talking on dd and she said that they had all of Travis emails and IM`s to read..

    how the hell did they get them..did they have Travises computer (question mark doesn` t work)

    • Pat…my guess would be someone connected with HLN gave Chris and Sky Hughes the emails and IM’s to read…

      How do you think they keep coming up with ideas of their “Big Breaking News” to keep the American television audience tuned into their network…for them it’s only about the ratings…cause in this time and age ratings brings in big dollars…and some people will stoop to their lowest to get their “15” minutes of fame on national television…and sell their soul to the devil…

      • HLN has a pipeline right into the or right up the persecutor…

        I KNOW how the media manipulates public opinion,,and even public consciouness to some degree..

        but these guys are something else! evil bastards selling their souls indeed!

        • It’s like both of them are passing information back and forth…from the state to HLN…and from HLN to the state…

          And HLN is definitely helping the state keep building their case…it is so biased…and disgusting how they are acting…

      • It seems like too many things have been leaked to the press during this whole trial…possibly by the state…and in a roundabout way….it usually a mole that is sneaking information from one source to feed to another source…it would be nice to know who their mole is…

        • Lets not forget the day the nude photos were blasted all over the live feed for everyone to see. How did THAT happen? I have never watched a trial where every photo was available for the public to view. I wont lie and say it hasn’t been interesting to have that info but it seems that everything has been leaked.

          • I’ve wondered the same thing. One day I was watching a live feed and a photo popped up in the middle of a recess. Just for a few seconds then the seal went back up.

            • I saw it too…it was the photo of the shelf in Travis’ empty closet with someone’s hand on the shelf tilting the shelf to show that it wouldn’t even hold the weight of his hand…

              Someone said this photo was not shown to the jury…

              Yet someone took down the state seal of Arizona to show this picture for all of the television viewing audience to see for several minutes while the judge and attorney’s were in the judges chambers…then they put the state seal of Arizona back up…and waited until they all came back into the courtroom…

              Aren’t they cameras in the courtroom…then someone can easily find out who the culprit was that did the photo tampering…

  111. Recent posts from the roommate Enrique on hlntv.com:

    “He was only alone during the day when the roommates were at work, unaware of what had happened inside this large house. He was still fed and given treats.”

    “When I got home that day, Napoleon was downstairs. The material used as a barrier to keep him out of the formal living room/dining area was blocking him from going up the stairs. Napoleon only barked when someone unfamiliar came inside the house. He was a loving little dog”

    “Napoleon was only alone when me and the other roommate were at our jobs. We were unaware of what happened since the most obvious evidence was inside the master suite and the smell didn’t finally become noticeable until that Monday night. Napoleon still ate. He still got treats. He still got petted and love.”

    “I suspect she blocked him from going upstairs. There is this snap together pet fence Travis used to keep Napoleon out of the formal living room/dining area. That fence was also on the stairs, keeping Napoleon from going upstairs. At least, that’s how I found things when I got home that day.”

    http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/04/24/what-happened-travis-alexanders-dog

    • and thats gotta be a crock of dog poo too.. the roomies must have gone upsairs to bed at some time..Napoleon would have been up those staris and sniffing at Travises bedroom door..prolly barking too..

      • Imagine 2 one hundred pound dogs dead upstairs for 5 days, flies by the thousands …. those are some lying roommates and some gullible cops. I’m sure them idiots in Mesa didn’t determine a time of death.

    • [quote]Napoleon still ate. He still got treats[quote]

      And they all used the kitchen…and just where was the dog food stored?…his water bowl and food?…by the picture it looks as though he was familiar with the kitchen…

      My point…

      On Thursday, June 5, 2008…Enrique tell Flores that Travis CTR and watch was sitting on the kitchen counter…Enrique said this was unusual because Travis normally doesn’t go anywhere without them…Flores page 16

      Sounds like Enrique is quickly back-peddling his own version of the story…

      Enrique needs to go back and read Flores report to refresh his memory of what he said to Flores that happened in those few days…

      • I forgot to add that if Enrique fed Napoleon as he says they did…then where was Travis CTR ring and watch…hmmm…

        Enrique arrived at Travis’ house right after 6 pm on Wednesday, June 4, 2008

        Enrique’s girlfriend, Kim, discovered Travis CTR ring and watch on Thursday, June 5, 2008 evening…

        Now for the biggie…the CTR ring and watch was not on the kitchen counter on Wednesday evening or Wednesday night or Thursday morning…Because if it was…then the roommates would have found it on Wednesday evening…Wednesday night, Thursday morning and etc…

        Oh by the way…they told Flores that they cleaned up after themselves in the kitchen…(you know they had to drink water, canned drink, juice, food or something…the had to go to kitchen)

        So which one of the liars put Travis’ CTR ring and watch on the kitchen counter so it would be found Thursday evening, June 5, 2008?

        • Yet another glaring glaring piece of evidence that was overlooked and I use that word very loosely

        • Either they are making stuff up, or they were on a really lot of drugs.

        • I don’t think there is anything major here personally.

          The CTR ring could have been there but no-one noticed it, or they forgot they saw it, or any or dozens of other innocent explanations.

          I think the roomates are a big red herring… they haven’t featured in the trial at all.

          Sorry !

          • Big Mistake,
            They should have been called.
            they were living in the house ( crime scene ) for 5 days.
            Something is really fishy here.
            His watch, ring and cell phone.
            If you have a cell phone, you don’t leave without it.

    • It’s interesting that he said, “Napoleon only barked when someone unfamiliar came inside the house. He was a loving little dog.”

      Nancy Grace jumped on Jodi saying that when she got there at 4 A.M. she went in the house and watched Travis watching videos on YouTube for a few minutes. Nancy said why didn’t the dog bark or run to the door when she got there? A juror asked if Napoleon barked, etc. when people came to the door, and Jodi said, yes, he got very animated. It’s too bad Jodi didn’t say Napoleon got very animated when someone UNFAMILIAR came to the door.

  112. Jumper cables on Sat per Enrique … Jumper cables on Sun just before church per Zachary Billings …..huge difference, significant day that Sabbath from all other 6 days.

    • You caught on Phillip to their lying shenanigans…

      Jumper cables were used on Saturday, June 7, 2008 per Enrique or on Sunday, June 8, 2008 per Zach…just one day or two days before Travis’ body was found on Monday, June 9, 2008…

      The roommates memory should have been very accurate in details…

      It’s not like it was weeks or a month before…when memory of details would have been more vague…

        • Hi, I’m awake…not that late here. My eyes are very tired from reading the day’s posts, tho.

          • Tomorrow is my middle of the week day off…yeah…

            me gets to stay up late…no mommy to tell me to go to bed…cause I am the mommy…LOL…

  115. Well, maybe when I get back from going to tt someone will be around. If not then I guess I’ll have to go count sheep, lol

  116. What I want to know is how JM was allowed and or thought it a good idea to call back to of his own two witnesses the Robe Lowe wannabe ME and the “Misrunderstanding” Flores in essence to rebutt their own testimony?? Made them both look like unreliable lying tools and I sure hope the jury sees it that way as well. Can’t wait til tomorrow.

    • I truly wish that someone could put the pieces together for me cause I can’t.. All the probs with the roommates, nobody lives in a house with a decomposing body for five days and thinks it’s nothing, especially when they went in and out and had girlfriends in and out. We are talking Arizona in June. Then there is the woman who killed herself after telling police to look at her husband. Why hasn’t the molestation of the child come out, hell everything else has. I am also wondering that since Jodi has no memory, if she did anything other than use the gun and someone else used the knife. This is so completelyyyyyyyyyyyy messed up!

      • CJ, it’s called being framed. I don’t believe she shot him either. I think the story about the ninjas is close to the truth. The fact that she told her father not to ask questions for his own safety, speaks volumes.

        • Sure does mariana,
          IMO, she is being framed and is very afraid for her family and friend.
          Tje first story made a hell of a lot more sense than this.

    • yup,, lying tools..the lot of them!

      night all.. see you tommorow..it will be a good day for Jodi!

  118. I wish I knew the results of the meeting in court today! The anticipation is driving me crazy. I want to know if the Manslaughter charge was allowed by the judge, and I want to know if the Judge is allowing the States witness Dr Jill Hayes to rebutt Dr Geffner. I know we will all find out soon enough, I just hate the not knowing. Patience has never been one of best qualities. I do think tomorrow will be a very long day. I’m ready though.

  119. The thing that most concerns me is that this jury was not sequestered. Juror #8 was dismissed because of a DUI. Chances are he didn’t get that inebriated driving home from the liquor store. Odds are he was socializing with others somewhere outside of his own home. God only knows how impartial this jury is now.

  120. Saw Chris Huges on DR Drew . He seemed very impressed with himself and smiled a lot for someone thats having a conversation about his murdered friend? WTH?

    I still get a kick as to why anyone on HLN would bother to interview TA ‘s friends. The guy kept so many things from them … They new only what he wanted them to see. I also found it interesting that the Cancun crew had left without him.

    HLN was the cause of the Casey Anthony outrage because they insisted she would get DP and the same outrage will come when Jodi gets manslaughter

    • I really want to know all the answers to those questions I posted. What if Jodi not remembering is because sheeeeeeeeeeee wasnt’ the one who did it. How does she know that she did? Blood on her hands that she washed off? That means nothing. I am just mad

      • The crime scene does actually demonstrate how Jodi did it, and pretty much exactly what happened.

        Those photos taken during the fight do tell a story.

        Read http://jodi-arias.wikispaces.com/Defence+narrative#the-killing

        spend some time on thinking about all that is there, and you can see that there is really no doubt as to what happened, how and why she killed Travis.

        You do need to understand how amnesia works though, and view everything in that context.
        Each time Travis attacks (after Jodi cannot remember anything) Jodi would have been unable to remember anything that happened that day.

    • I can’t ‘stand to listen to those whateverssssssss any more. They are completely biased and I thought it was innocent until proven guilty!

      • cj,
        Everyone of them are.
        You can see it in their eyes.
        They really don’t care about the truth, they just
        want to hear Jodi get’s the DP.
        they are ALL sickos!

  121. With this trial going on this long, I’m not surprised a juror was drunk! I’m not making fun of DUI, its very serious, but had he not told the officer he was on the trial, he likely would have been allowed to stay, even with a DUI charge. Jurors are allowed to go out and socialize, drink, everything we all are able, other than to watch media and discuss the trial. I think, on the whole, that jurors take their civic duty very seriously, and thats all we have, is their word that they have. I can’t imagine a jury being sequestered for this long, they would be going crazy. The last thing you want is a jury that is in a big hurry to wrap it up and get home, you want them to take their time and really think about everything they have been told/shown. Can you imagine being away from your family for 5 months?

    • No, I can’t imagine that at all. I’d lose it. I have to say though, with someone’s life on the line and all the hooplaa surrounding this case, at some point they should have been sequestered.

  122. I was confused reading all these posts about Napoleon in Travis’ house. I thought that you guys were talking about Martinez.

    • Ed –
      I swear, I’m not laughing at you – I am laughing with you.
      Regardless, this made me laugh.

  123. Well, guess I’ll go count sheep. maybe that will help me. I need to get sleep cause I want to see all of trial. Goodnight all!

  124. Goodnight cj…I need to get to bed too, I want to be awake and alert for tomorrow!

  125. Something about Sky, Chris, and Travis’ relationship gives me the heebeejeebees (sp?).
    Just saying…

    • Just the fact that Travis felt comfortable enough to ask Sky for 4k tells me there was more between them than what meets the eye.

      I remember that Travis had called Abe an “old fat jew” or something. Could you imagine what he said about Chris Hughes behind his back?

      • Seems that bunch are into name calling. That’s good tho .. while they’ve been calling names, tagging, the lies which are proven lies, make it up as they go along, improvise the rest in cover up, they haven’t taken the time to pin point out something actual and provable against Jodi.

        I had to deal with attorneys like the prosecution. Nothing like this but they acted just as cut throat asking if water was seen flooding the area and were pictures taken to prove it. I said evidence was lost in flooding and humidity, that if my stating it happened isn’t proof enough I can prove without having the evidence that had been destroyed. He guffawed and said how can I prove it. I said lets go to the restroom, I shove his fkn head in the toilet and flush, where the water gonna go,once it reaches peek level and the flow jammed, that he can manipulate the law, sway the jury, but the law of water will always seek it’s lowest point just like his line of questioning. .

  126. PHOENIX — Jodi Arias isn’t a movie star, but she’s getting fan mail at the Maricopa County Estrella Jail for women as if she were a leading lady in a star-studded film.

    “She does get probably more letters than anyone else does. She gets hate mail, love mail, you name it, she gets it,” said Sgt. Brandon Jones with the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.

    Inmates can only accept postcards. All other mail, except for legal documents, are returned to sender.

    Jones said at one point Arias’ cell was so packed with mail that jailers asked her to get rid of some of it because it was becoming a hazard.

    Shortly after the request Jones said Arias released 250 pieces of mail.

    The accused boyfriend killer is popular and many say for all the wrong reasons, but that isn’t stopping people from wanting to get close to the maximum-security inmate.

    Arias gets three 30-minute visits with family, friends or the public each week. Visitors are welcome most days except Friday, which is for legal visits only.

    No felons are allowed and visitors must dress conservatively. That means, in part, no cleavage and dress shoes.

    But these guests can only talk to Arias if she wants to talk to them.

    Jailers will notify her of the request and give her the name of the individual; at that point Arias can accept or deny the request.

    The inmate can also accept the request and once she sees who the person is she can deny the meeting at that time, too.

    According to Jones, Arias uses all of her weekly visits, which don’t include visits with her attorneys.

    Inmates can visit with legal counsel anytime of the day face to face.

    Public visitations are done through a glass wall using a telephone.

    3TV tried accessing Arias’ visitor log, but Jones said the courts recently sealed it.

    We do know Arias doesn’t have access to the Internet in jail even though it’s been rumored she tweets from behind bars, using a third party, something that Sheriff Joe Arpaio is looking into.

    “He’s taking a look at what can we do to prohibit things like that, what can we do to control more of what’s going out,” said Jones said.

    The accused murderer can talk on the phone using a prepaid card and the jail’s community phone from 6:30 a.m. to 10 p.m.

    During that window Arias can also watch TV, but Arpaio has limited the channels to C-SPAN, The Food Network, and the Weather Channel. The on-duty deputy decides what channel the pod of inmates can watch.

    3TV has also learned Arias housed in a pod with 32 other inmates and shares a cell with one inmate.

    As for food, inmates get 2,900 calories a day.

    In Arias’ case she gets breakfast, a snack during court and dinner.

    Attorneys aren’t allowed to feed their inmates during court.

    For those who want to send Arias a gift they’re out of luck, but the jail will accept money into her inmate account. She can buy goods from the jail’s canteen.

    • I have a really hard time believing that Jodi’s getting 2,900 calories a day. First of all, that’s high for an average woman, and second of all, Jodi has lost a considerable amount of weight. I think Sheriff Joe is fudging the numbers.

  127. HLN is sinking to new lows– Vinnie’s bold accusation—Jodi loves being on trial. I am quite sure she does not love it you gutter rat.

    • Kalista,
      They are nuts, plain and simple.
      WHO likes being on trial.
      They’re all a bunch of has been dumbasses.

    • I hate that man!!! He is so cynical! I think that a petition needs to be started to get rid of HLN!! I agree with the whole free speech thing…but when you are reporting lies and slandering people then I feel something needs to be done!

    • geebee2

      Transcript of Martinez’s opening argument:

      When there is finally, there is a third set of photographs and these are accidental photographs. These are inadvertent photographs. These are photographs that killer did not want taken. In the first one of those taken forty four seconds, forty four seconds after the photograph of Mr. Alexander’s posterior in the shot and that is taken at 5:31:14. Yes, that is taken at 5:31:14. So it is forty one seconds after the last photograph in the shower, and this is if you will, a photograph of movement and the reason I say that it is a photograph of movement is because it is taken, or it is consistent with being taken from the waist, it is straight up. It is not up or down or to the side. The picture is of the lights above the shower and it is nothing more than movement. But that is when the attack is happening, and that’s when Mr. Alexander is being attacked by this individual.
      The next inadvertent photograph is at 5:32:16, one minute and two seconds later, and that photograph is right taken here in __ 25. It is another inadvertent photograph and is consistent with the camera being taken off from the shoulder (JM indicates a strap) that is around it and falling. But the camera is actually on the ground now and upside down, so this photograph is upside down. All the other photographs are right side up, which is consistent with the camera falling here, striking the click, huh, or striking the shift, huh, the button and taking a photograph and you do see the camera in this one. You see this individual here (pointing towards JA), you see her foot, not only do you see her foot you see Mr. Alexander’s head, you see his arm, you see him bleeding profusely. You see the area down here? You know what else you see? You see her manipulating him trying to drag him or move him. We know she moved him because he ends up in the shower. So we do know that for sure. Well, she begins to tug, pull him into the shower.
      And there is another photograph that is taken a minute and 16 seconds later at 5:33:32, and this photograph again is upside down. So the camera had not been moved from the previous photograph. And this is consistent with somebody stepping on the camera and there being a photograph taken. And in this one what you do see is the shoulder of Mr. Alexander, you see the trim, it’s a little bit further down this hallway. And this person, that sits right here today, drags him down in this direction.
      So the police now know what happened. They know on June 4, 2008, starting around, in the afternoon, somewhere around one o’clock, the defendant is there with Mr. Alexander. Even though they have broken up and even thought she is in Yreka, somehow she is in his house in Mesa, AZ. They know they engage in what is clearly normal for our species and that is sexual intercourse, they enjoyed themselves. Yes, from a religious perspective both of them are sinning. But she is there from Yreka, she took a thousand miles to get to that sin.
      Then we know that at 5:30ish, later on, he is in the shower, whatever is going on, his defenses are down, he is very comfortable. We also know then that as he sat there and she took the knife and she began to stab him when he was in that defenseless, sitting position. She began and stuck the knife in his chest and he grabbed the knife and when he grabbed the knife, of course, that resulted in more blood. But since he is not going to die immediately, he is going to die from a loss of blood and he hasn’t lost consciousness he begins to go around the bathroom and ends up at the sink, hunched over. We know that he received a lot of stab wounds to the back and to his head. We know he was stationary at that point, when he gets to that sink. So we don’t know exactly where but it could be consistent with him then being stabbed at that point as he continues to bleed out. And this bleeding out process is not immediate, he can still speak, he can talk even with blood coming out his mouth, he can still make noises, he can still move until he starts to loose strength.

  131. Good Morning Everyone!!!
    I have a question about TAs roommates. From what I remember he had a few. Now for the “plan” JM wants the jury to believe Jodi came up with wouldn’t she need to be sure the roommates weren’t going to be there at all during her visit. And wouldn’t that be impossible for her to know? I mean they had keys and could of come home at any minute. But she stayed there over night not knowing whether the roommates would be home or not. IT just doesn’t add up and I PRAY that the jury sees this too.

  132. Hi everyone! I am sorry but I haven’t had the chance to read the above comments. But I was very happy to see # 1 Jodi Arias Support Site address this Chris, you know was no good, Hughs. If memory serves me right, he is the one with the wife that was picking up all the bad vibes from Jodi. Where Chris and his wife felt they had to take Travis and tell Travis about Jodi. I have had a bad vibe from Chris the minute he opened his mouth. Chris and his wife don’t think they are in the wrong taking Travis and gossiping about Jodi. The whole thing sounded more weird on Chris and his wife’s side then on Jodi’s side.

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