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“Justice for Travis” – here’s what it really means…

Here’s an interesting fact:

With one of my other support websites (for Casey Anthony), 90% of the hate & BS messages we received were from females… and we all know the real reason behind that. But with this site… in support of Jodi… the latest figures show 90% of hate messages are from guys.

A complete “hate-reversal of the sexes” you could call it.

So what does that tell us?

Well, I’m certainly no expert on psychology or human behavior… but to me it says this trial is not about “Jodi v Travis”… nor is it really about “one religion v the other”. Instead, it’s actually turning into a major Male v Female battle. The Male side sticking up for Travis because “well… he’s a guy and… err… he does guy stuff”, and the female side having had just about enough of guys beating up on girls all the time and getting away with it.

With all that in mind — the most humorous phrase I regularly hear is made up of just 3 words… but they actually mean nothing. That phrase is “Justice for Travis”. It’s a cliché. Nobody really knows what it means, but it gets thrown about a lot by clueless people that basically think verbal & physical abuse is somehow ok.

“Justice for Travis” – ? Don’t make me laugh.

I’ll finish off by telling you this, which a lot of people are thinking but nobody is openly saying:

THE WORLD IS A FAR BETTER PLACE WITHOUT TRAVIS ALEXANDER.

The same goes for any other self-righteous bastard that thinks they can verbally & physically abuse women and get away with it.

Because the fact is… in the cold light of day… most of the time you can get away with it… but sometimes… well… you just can’t.

We are Team Jodi, and we’re proud to stand behind and support Jodi Arias.

Always have done.

Always will do.

SJ
Team Jodi

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  1. Team Jodi!!!

    I said it once…and I will say it again… The whole world would be a better place if Kali came and removed all the people on the planet who are like Travis. There wouldn’t be many of us left, however.

    there.

    Team Jodi!!!

    • Too bad you are the loser and not smart enough to read our posts. If you had, you would see that some of us don’t believe her latest story either.

      you want to make it all about the horrific graphic end, but it is WAY more than that.

      I already have a bridge, thanks.

    • Paul,
      in case you haven’t noticed there are like a billion pro-pros sites and Facebook pages.Why not going there praise and chant hymns for Traviswhile spilling your hatred of Jodi and leave us,”suckers” alone??? To my knowledge members of this group have never tried to enter other sites harassing other ppl.WE are not bullies so bullying us is not gonna work.Thank you.

    • I always find it somewhat ironic when people come on here and start bullying us over our views on a self defense case.

      The apple doesnt fall far.
      Need I say more Paul?

    • Another humdruming dimwit that got bored on the ” Travisbullshit.com websites n is now coming to show us how ignorant these blind haters are!!! If u don’t like it, go suck a fart!!!!

      Team Jodi★

    • I have been watching the trial. I believe in Jodi, and the abuse that she experienced from Travis. I think that she was ostracized by Travis. Menatally abused yes I do believe. Physically abused yes I do believe. I was a victim of domestic violence, and counciled with victims of domestic vilence. I never reported it. I just left. I can imagine Jodi in her last days with Travis when the murder took place. I was there at that point. The only thing that stop me is I lost my house keys. I have a cousin that is serving the last of fifeteen years in prison related to domestic violence. I tell most women to report it so that you have documentation. Just because you did not report it, it does not mean it did not happen. I don’t think that it was premeditated. You have to put yourself there to understand. I did not like the behavior of the district attorney. I just want to say I understand. I will be praying for her.

      • Thank you Christine. I am a survivor of mental abuse. Although I did not experience the sexual and physical abuse that Jodi has I believe she was abused by Travis. I recognize those very same feelings and inability to free myself from the situation. I also believe some sort of verbal disagreement or physical confrontation took place and she snapped. And thus he is dead and now she is on trial for her life.

        It is so easy for the pundits to say she should have left. She should have done this and she should have done this. Easier said than done. As an abused woman I remember thinking that if I just did right what he said I did wrong I would not be in this siutaution. My abuser was not “text book” and it sounds like Travis was not either. We as a society need to step out of this belief that all abusers are “text book”. Yes they follow a lot of similarities but each situation is unique in of itself.

        I get so angry that the hosts of various programs slam her continually. All of them are supposed to be lawyers and experts. If they are lawyers they should know it is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by her peers. Although this woman did lie in several instances, abused women will tell you that they have lied just not to have to tell the truth about the hell that they experienced at the hands of their abuser. I pray that this woman gets acquitted. Although her life will still continue to be a living hell, she will be somewhat free.

        There is also a level of pity for the families of Travis and Jodi in the court room. For both families to hear what they are hearing has got to be hell. No one wants to hear their brother did the things that he did and her parents must be mortified to know what their daughter did.

        Once again please listen to what the facts are and bear in mind that no matter what we are not the jury. The jury is the ones who will make that decision. And most of all believe that we were not there. We do not know what happened there that caused her to snap. My abuser was well respected in the community just like Travis. When I bought charges against him they believed that I was the one who perpetrated this abuse. No woman in her right mind would perpetrate what we go through at at the hands of our abusers.

    • Poor Jodi….she is a very smart lady…the posts on this site..not so much. I have come around to see all sides of this ‘so tragic’ story for all sides involved. Team Jodi don;t turn into a knuckle-dragger hater. Give Jodi the site she can be PROUD of.PEACE and LOVE!

  2. Wow oh my god how cruel???? Someone is gone from this earth with not one person who ever had anything bad to say about him, no real evidence except jodi is saying so and we rejoice and say the world is a better place? Ok clearly I’m in the wrong forum…see ya’all

    • Oh. Would you feel better if I had said IF that’s how Travis was? Because really, only his god and Jodi’s god know the truth of what happened. That’s why I firmly believe it is NOT up to man/woman to pass judgement, but only whomever they pray to.

      IF that is how Travis was, then we are better off.

      I AM NOT saying I am happy anyone died.

      • Whatever BeeCee, dont apologize…. im with you all the way. I agree eith all of your post. WE are in the right place. This IS a support site for people that support Jodi, not people that question her!!!! Read it clear n loud,  jodiariasisinnocent.com!!!!!! People! !!! I dont know why some of us are having to explain that n keep apologizing lately?????? SJ started this site for the support of Jodi n from my understanding one of the reason for that is so that WE (the supporters) have a place to comment on what we feel, vent n discuss these issues freely, because OTHER SITES, dont let us do that. We are put down in many ways if n when we comment on the Travisbullshit.com sites. Why are we staring to feel like we have to hold back on some of our opinions against TA on THIS support Jodi site???? We might as well go somewhere else if this site is going to start getting infected by the blind!!!

        Sorry… guys, I just liked it so much better when we were all on the support JA page!

          • This case is very sad indeed.

            A family has lost their brother, and a mother may potentially bury their child in the ground. It is sad and tragic.

            We should not say awful things about any party involved in this terrible case. I feel for everyone involved.

        • Well, I just want to say, that I have been accused lately of making some feel as if they should not be allowed to give their opinion. I know some of you understand I am here for the right reasons and I appreciate that, but given some recent posts, I really feel others DO feel that I am on here for the wrong reasons. I have said it before and at the risk of boring some to tears I will say it again, I am in support of JODI Arias NOT being convicted of first degree murder. While I have NOT as of yet fully made my mind up as to whether I believe the claim as to Self Defense I can sincerely say that as of right now, my GUT is inclined to believe it was self defense. My questions are posted, NOT to make others feel they cannot express their opinions, but to ask clarification because I may not be thinking along the same lines for various reasons. I also, like I have stated, tend to look at things from the perspective of a pessimist or I play Devils advocate a LOT. I want to think like BOTH the defense and the prosecutor and how it is the JURY may be thinking/feeling, so I can be prepared as to what may occur. That is just my interest in following a case. Any trial no matter my gut feeling. So I want to say LOUD and CLEAR, if I question things, (& I have come to understand that with certain people it is just not acceptable for them), it does NOT, in any way, shape or form, IMPLY that I think you should not be inclined to your own opinion.

          • I think your posts are great.

            I’m not underestimating the prosecution in this case at all. His track record is good. I’m worried that bringing out the part about the pics of boys may make some of the jury angry.

            • It’s basically a legal term Kirk Nurmi uses, instead of telling Martinez to STFU with his invalid time wasting objections & BS.
              SJ

    • Oh Katia??? Travis was cruel too. PEOPLE ARE CRUEL. That is the way of life until god destroy all the cruel people.

    • Give me a break Katia. Why are you REALLY here??? This is a support site FOR JODI! There is a facebook page perfect for you. All of us took the time to explain WHAT we think. IMO, you are name dropping knowing SJ as a power play and it won’t work for long.

      Now you are here JUST to flame.

      • Yes its abvious this person is, along with two other people that have posted some comments, even stating that they wanted to hear anyones argument that stated different from what they thought was the “fact” LIKE REALLY??? I really hope SJ can see these people coming on this site to challenge our thoughts becsuse they’ve most likely got bored of agreeing with the Travis supporters n now want to come argue there points across on Jodis. C-On people.

        • Personally, i think those people are here under the RUSE of trying to see different points. I feel sorry for most of them because they haven’t taken the time to read and watch and actually THINK. I think they are really not Pro Jodi because they don’t have the capacity to understand from her viewpoint. They are only mining for information.

    • narcissists have extreme and illogical sensitivities, sometimes connecting the most minute observations with their intense fears of being seen as flawed. Narcissists will strain every muscle to meet their own “flawless” image, and demean or destroy anyone or anything who casts any doubt on this image. If you see this dynamic in your partner, family member, coworker, or friend, you are very probably dealing with a narcissist. Travis to a ‘T’

      • You said it, Heather. Just like Narcissus starting at his own reflection in the pool. When you’re near him, you have to tread lightly, do nothing to cause ripples in the water that might disturb his image. You have to practically hold your breath, else he might fly into a spectacular rage!

  3. Yes the world is a better place without Travis Alexander! This trial should teach guys it’s not ok to shit all over women just because they let you. Women are not objects for guys to use and abuse. What if Jodi were your daughter or sister? Is that ok then? If you use and abuse vulnerable women these are the consequences. You could end up dead. Mabye, she will get away with it or maybe not but you are still dead. You can only push someone so far. I will always support Jodi because it’s the right thing to do. Go Jodi! You get em Girl!

    • Thank you Jon, you’ve just made my day a little better!!!! Thank you n man that know this n treat us right will also get in return a very loving woman that will respect n appreciate that man! And of course there are still people out there that treat others like crap, not only TA… like you said, this should atleast open someones eyes n help them realize that how you treat people (no only woman) is one of the most important things in life. Oh n animals too, animals have a saying too!!! Lol

      • To LC.
        First let me say I am for Jodi, and pray for the best for her. I also agree as a man that most men are dogs, and often use and abuse women. But my question is to you specifically, and women in general, would you also support a man on trial, who had been used and abused by some woman, and in anger murdered that woman? Don’t laugh and say that such a statement is silly. Men are used quite often. Gold diggers have existed for years. Would you have the same sympathy for a man who has been used by such a woman, and in anger takes revenge and kills her? Or would all you women say if the man was dumb enough to fall for a gold digger he deserves to be taken? No one can understand what makes another person love someone, and what drives that person to accept the person they are in love with, excessive demands, and abuse. I wish to God that all his people on Earth were loving, caring and respecting to each other.

    • where’s the trail of pissed off, usees, and those who care about them, left in the wake of the kink Alexander, guru….??? …Edgrrr…

  4. The bottom line is that this is Jodi’s support site and with her. The 1st Amendment of our constitution gives us the right to express our views and beliefs and that includes the VAST majority of views and opinions expressed at this support site!

    We’re all looking forward to Jodi being found not guilty and if and when that happens you can bet your boots that we’re all going to go WILD WITH JOY!!!:-)

    That joy that we’ll be expressing will be a joy of a virdict we believe is just not joy over the fact that Travis is dead! I don’t think anyone here wants to go dance and pee on Travis’ grave(well, maybe a few people here.lol)or anything like that. Most of us here value decency, respect, compassion, and honor and we’ll continue to do so!

    • Amen to the constitution comment! And with that, I have to say that should the jury find her guilty of whatever they deem her guilty of – you won’t see me verbally bashing the jury like we saw in the Casey case! If the jury comes to a conclusion different than mine, I will respect their verdict without insult.

      • CJ, I am very big on constitutional rights! I will also respect whatever decision the jury makes as well.:-)

        • CJ & Tony, I will too, but im still making my “TEAM JODI” t-shirt, n nobody can stop me from wearing it!!! Lol ; ))

          • cool idea LC!!mind if I borrow it?lol!for the time being I’ve only got a photo of this site as screensaver on my computer!

          • Lol Maria….. cute!!! I wish I had the $ n addresses of the REAL Jodi supporters, I would definitely make those t-shits n send them.

        • To Tony
          I do not agree with your statement regarding the juries decision. How many innocent people were found guilty by their so called peers. I do not trust the police, lawyers, judges or the juries. As was stated earlier by another supporter, only God has the right to judge.
          I was involved in a trial, and believed that the jury would do the right thing and find me not guilty, but I was terribly mistaken. Despite witnesses being under oath, there is much lying, and these lies have a major influence on the jury, especially if it comes from people of authority.
          So if you are lucky in court, you may be found not guilty. The most important element in a trial is great attorneys, ask OJ Simpson. God Bless.

        • Juries are ringers of the lizards at law, pretrial tampering, and, do not, represent the right to be tried by a jury of ones,’ peers….. Stacked, all the way…. …Edgrrr…

    • You do know that there is no wway she will be found “not guilty” right? She alreay admitted she did it. This case and trial is about saving her life. Finding her justified in her actions. She won’t walk out of the court house a free woman, but she will, more than likely, be spared death. That’s the best she can hope for. I don’t want to burst anyone’s bubble but this case and Casey Anthony’s case are completely different. I am praying for everyone involved. We all should. This entire story is horrific. I feel sorry for what Jodi went through and I feel horrible that someone is dead. There are no winners here. None.

      • it hurts so much realising that but I guess u’ r right.I dont wanna see her behind bars for the rest of her life but I dread to even begin to imagine that the death penalty may be applied in Jodi’s case.I dunno how im gonna handle that.Yes,let’s hope and pray for our Jodi.

  5. Traivs was a horn dog who was looking for sexual loopholes to avoid violating his church’s beliefs. This was a farce as far as I can see because the Mormon expert they had on HLN basically said any of the activity Travis was engaging in goes against the beliefs of the Mormon Church. The defense asked 2 of his past girlfriends if he made any inappropriate advances towards them and they both stated no. Of course he didn’t. He met them in church. In his eyes, they were “good girls” and probably the type he would like to marry.

    In the meantime he found Jodi who fell for him and was willing to obey and do the things he wanted because she fell in love with him and wanted to be with him. He would never have married a girl like her but he definitely would use her until he found a girl good enough to marry. She was gullible and believed the crap he told her about oral and anal sex. I would love to have been a fly on the wall and heard some of his conversations with his male friends. There were likely things said that will never be shared at this trial but I can imagine he told them lots of dirty little details about his escapades with Jodi. He didn’t care about her, he didn’t respect her, and he had no intention of being with her long term. He was using her, plain and simple.

    The one thing he miscalculated was that maybe she was not mentally stable. She fell in love with him and basically became a stalker. He was big time sending her mixed messages. When he decided he wanted nothing more to do with her he should never have given in and had sex with her again. However, because he is such a horndog, he decided he could have his cake and eat it too. To quote an old saying, he played with the bull until he got the horn in the A$$. When she spent that last day together with him, obviously she went there prepared to do something, and when she found out he had the audacity to have sex with her all day and then inform her that he is leaving in 2 hours for a trip to the Carribean with another woman, she completely lost it!!! Perhaps thats why the overkill happened.

    Also keep in mind the defense has just begun. Maybe they have other girlfriends up their sleeve who will confirm some of what Jodi is saying. Don’t get me wrong, I definitely believe TA (or anyone else for that matter) did not deserve to die, and definitely not in such a horrible way, but we are all responsible for our own safety, and if we mess with the wrong people, especially those who are not mentally stable, bad things can happen. Thats what Alexander did, and that’s exactly why he is dead today. I don’t think Jodi has anything mentally wrong with her. I am a psych nurse so I am qualified to say so. However, I think she was pushed to the breaking point by TA.

    I apologize if I have gotten any of my facts wrong. I am trying to watch the trial in between work and personal committments. However, I find the reporting extremely one sided, especially HLN. Nancy Grace was making comments about Jodi’s demeanor. How is the poor girl supposed to act when she is being forced to discuss such sensitive and embarassing topics in front of her mother. This must be extremely painful for Jodi. Nancy also made comments about Jodi no longer being blonde. She’s a natural brunette, shes been in jail for the last 4 years!!! Last time I checked they didn’t have any beauty salons in prison. I just think they are being extremely petty where Jodi is concerned.

    Hang in there Jodi. Lots of us can see the truth. You will get through this and be able to carry on with your life. I wish you all the best hun.

    • Great post:-) I hope you’re right about the defense. The only thing I want to point out is that the only people to say Jodi was a stalker were the group of friends Travis kept Jodi from because he was dating women n that circle. The Freeman’s, a brother and sister who were initially friends with Travis, but were allowed to hang around Travis and Jodi testified that Travis hung on Jodi in public settings when the OTHER group wasn’t around. Yet when, he was around that group, either jodi wasn’t invited, or she was ignored.

      I think Jodi shows strength and bravery to get on the stand, testify and face cross examination. I like you, can’t imagine having to discuss such intimate details in front of my family and the whole world really!

      Travis, IMO, was hyper-sexual, not a horn dog or maybe being hyper-sexual is being a horn dog LOL! His appetite driven out of a need for control and dominance over women because of the abuse he endured at a young age by his mother. Have you read his Being Better Blog? I think you would find it interesting from a psychological perspective.

      ,”but we are all responsible for our own safety, and if we mess with the wrong people, especially those who are not mentally stable, bad things can happen. Thats what Alexander did, and that’s exactly why he is dead today.” Spot on! I don’t think anyone here thinks he deserved to die just that his behavior factored into his demise…

          • and that makes 10 of us!!! Lol I love the quote an old saying, “he played with the bull until he got the horn in the A$$” He sure did!!! I just wanted to comment about the defense asked 2 of his past girlfriends if he made any inappropriate advances towards them and they both stated no. But we cant forget what one of them wrote to TA. Lets NOT forget the email Lisa wrote to him n all the FACTS in the ltr. Him grabbing her ass, belittling her, making her feel responsible for HIS behavior, ect… She might’ve taken it back on stand, but she herself even admitted that she never told TA thst she took it all back. So its safe to say that she feels bad now for writing the email because he’s dead.

      • I agree. I hate to use the word stalker in this case because I really don’t believe she was, she just had trouble letting go. I also like your word, hyper sexual, better. Horndog is just a local word we use for a man who can’t get enough and will take it from anyone who will give it!

        I am going to check out Travis’ blog, No doubt I will have an opinion about that so watch out! Also, I was not aware about the proxy. Interesting that this seems to be very downplayed. I think the police often tend to be a little too fast and loose with evidence because they have made assumptions. No doubt he was up to no good online.

        What’s sad is there are sites where you can meet people with the same sexual interests, and have your needs met in a mutually consensual relationship. You don’t need to force yourself on someone or your kinky little desires. Theres probably someone out there who would have loved to meet Travis’ needs. It sounds to me like he had a lot of charisma, and I think he likely knocked Jodi off her feet and she fell for him hard. Then he started treating her like crap at times, and being really sweet at times.

    • Good news BevM : If you get a chance to sit and watch the trial for a while, all the trial videos are available here under the header that says trial video. I have a question for you if you don’t mind answering, being a psych nurse. Do you think that when she said “No jury will convict me because I am innocent” that she really was planning on committing suicide? Had she come to that place where she had a plan and no one was going to be privy to it because no one was going to be able to stop her?

      • Hi Debbie, I had a friend who committed suicide 2 summers ago. He asphyxiated himself in his half ton truck. He drove down a long side road and actually duct taped blankets over the headlights so no one would see the truck running. He had never mentioned suicide before nor attempted it in any way. Apparently he was heavily in debt and his marriage was failing. He wanted to end it and he wanted the first try to be successful. And it was.

        I have patients all the time who talk about suicide (suicidal ideation) or make half hearted attempts at it. They end up in the psych unit because obviously they want/need help but truely do not want to die. I think Jodi would be like my friend. She would do it once and she would do it right. I believe her when she said what she said about no jury ever convicting her because she didn’t intend to be here. I hope she is able to hang in and that on cross examination she doesn’t lose it and tell the prosecution off (like I probably would, lol).

        • Thank you for your response BevM. I feel the same way as I have been in that black hole. I said nothing to anyone about how I was really feeling. I had planned what I was going to do. No one knew anything. It really is a dark place that one cannot see their way out of.However something in me snapped because I started to think “what will this do to my kids?” That is the only thing that stopped me and the only reason I am still here. I think more of my kids than I do myself. I never spoke of suicide either as I had two friends that committed suicide some years apart and I was very angry with them. Getting in that hole made me understand how totally devastated they must have felt to go through with it. Again no one knew when they did it. I have said to people over and over again people that threaten suicide want help or attention, people who commit suicide do not want attention. They do not talk about it or threaten.

          • Agree Debbie- those who really want to die don’t want attention. You always hear their friends and family say they never saw it comming.

          • I agree with you guys.

            I’ve been there with the suicidal thoughts (and attempts when I was very young) & have had many friends & family die from suicide. The thing that always bothered me was when my therapists or doctors would ask “Do you have a plan?” “What would your plan be if you did have a plan?”

            ” Like I would tell YOU!!” “That’s for me to know, and you to find out…”

            I realize they need to ask these questions, but because I know that the times when I’ve thought about it I wasn’t wanting attention or for anyone to ruin any plan I had- I wasn’t gonna tell them!

            I believe Jodi.

        • hey BevM,thanx for your post.you’re o right,I’had never realised that indeed for ppl who talk about suicide or make attempts this is probably a means of reaching out for attention and help.Deep down I believe Jodi said that thing on TV because she was trying to maintain her”I had nothing to do with it” demeanor.Howerer,I honestly believe that she intended to kill herself at some point during those 4 long years in prison.She’s such an emotional,soft,kind and sensitive person that it would hardly be surprising if she has considered ending her life.My quiestion to you and to all of you is this: ever since she made that statement at court I’ve been dreading that if she gets life emprisonment she might reconsider commiting suicide.After all,it was her that said that she’d rather get the death penalty than spent the rest of her life behind bars.Does anybody else worry about that possibility??Or is it just me overeacting?

          • No, I’ve thought the very same thing. I was actually just thinking about the potential of her doing so before I read your post.

            She does seem like a sensitive person that has little to no self-worth (since TA). I hope she’ll that she does have so much worth, that people care about & support her, and that she still contributes in a beautiful way. Her art is amazing! She is so expressive and articulate in what she says and what she writes. She appears to be a kind, genuine person. She’s pretty and intelligent.

    • Excellent post! I also have come to very much the same conclusion, on my own. I think that the basic pattern of behavior, and even relationships, that can be seen, from the time she left home, until this incident, show that she actually has some deep insecurities – which is perfectly understandable. The “real Jodi” appears to be highly intelligent, and almost “nerdy”. Anyone who reads her blogs will immediately pick up on many qualities that are quite unlike her provocative “blonde” image. She is a reader, an intense thinker, and a dreamer. I would not be surprised if she is a little smarter than Travis, in terms of I.Q.

      Also, people may say that her behavior, immediately after the incident, seemed “cold-blooded”. But, look at her reaction when they showed Travis’ autopsy photos, in court, four years later. Emotionally, she flipped out. It might be possible to fake some emotions. But, I do not think it is possible to fake blushing, or turning red in the face. My thought is that, before the incident, Jodi was feeling worse, and worse, about the whole situation. Travis is publicly calling her a “stalker”, while being able to meet up with her, in secret, for sex. Publicly, he posts a blog titled, “Why I Want to Marry a Gold Digger”, and even jokes about how the person he is with, might secretly be an “axe murderer”. To everyone who knew both Travis, and Jodi, and read the post, it could have looked like another “hit” on Jodi – but, meanwhile, he was always game for more sex. (Actually, I do not see anything wrong, or bad, that Jodi did to Travis.) Jodi, on the other hand, was probably totally one hundred percent committed, in the beginning of the relationship – at least according to the accounts of those who knew her, closely. I think that mentally, and emotionally, she finally snapped. It is true that people, who you love, can hurt you far more than people who you hate.

      As a male, while reviewing Travis’s “track record”, I had the dawning realization of how much pain a man really could inflict upon a woman, when the woman loves the man, but the man only wants sex, and nothing more. I also have realized how badly the “hot chick” approach could backfire, if a woman is actually looking for love.

      Anyway, I think that Ms. Arias was probably going nuts, inside. Maybe, it was compartmentalized, at first. But, it must have come to a head, on her last trip, when the incident took place. Also, from watching the early interviews, it looks like Ms. Arias was shifting gears, emotionally, and mentally. But, whether she was in her right mind, is really hard to say. Maybe, Ms. Arias was not in her right mind again, for years, after the incident. For example, a car wreck can happen very fast, yet it seems like slow motion. Afterwards, a person simply tries to put all of the pieces together, as to what happened during a few fleeting seconds. For Jodi, the behavior after the incident was probably like the behavior of a person who was having trouble putting all of the pieces back together.

      To give an illustration, I once listened to a man tell about his son’s death. The man said that he felt fine, emotionally, everyday, for a week after the death. He went right through the funeral, business as usual. Then, at the end of one week, he woke up one day felt like he had been hit by a train, emotionally. Then, the grieving process began. By the same token, I do not think that Jodi’s matter of factness immediately after the incident, is necessarily a sign of “cold-bloodedness”. It could have been the result of not actually processing anything, at an emotional level, in such a short time, after the incident.

      Here are links to blogs written by both Jodi, and Travis. They are worth reading, and comparing. The goals appear to be the same, but, honestly, I think that Jodi does a little better job of inspiring people. Her thoughts seem more original, and sincere, without cliches and platitudes.

      http://jodiarias.blogspot.mx/
      http://travisalexander.blogspot.mx/

      • Very good post Ben. I agree with you. i thought the same things when I read Jodi’s blogs versus Travis’. It is amazing how the haters look at that and say she is copying him. She does seem WAY more intelligent than he was.

        I also truly don’t understand how they call her soulless and a psychopath, have they not seen the crinkle brow stupid face he does in most of his pictures???

        • Haha yep, yep! Or the fact that he rarely looks like he’s smiling (unless showing his douchey side/showing off)

        • He reminds me of my douchebag former neighbor in those photos, which is probably why I get the impression that I wouldn’t have liked him had we ever met. I’m not impressed by people who value money and power above everything else.

      • Ben-
        It’s so nice to hear a man’s perspective on things. Thanks for your post.

        I’ve thought the same thing about the ‘blushing’. It bothers me when HLN is willing to mention her blushing but they refuse to see that as a sign of true emotion. Instead, they say it’s only because her mom is in front of her listening to the details & seeing the pictures. They will not give her ANY credit for being human and showing any emotion.

        It’s easy for me to see when she is uncomfortable and even sad about something that she is about to describe. It’s the kind of emotion that one cannot hide. The sides of her mouth turn down ever so slightly and there is a tiny quiver. To me it looks like she is trying her hardest to put on a bold front & stay strong, but deep down her pain is obvious. It looks like she’s trying to hold back tears and force her words out.

        I even believe that in her interviews to the public where she says something to the effect of “I would never hurt Travis”- True! She probably never would. She cared about him deeply. I don’t think she would’ve premeditated his murder. Nothing about that scenario makes sense to me.

        When she said something to the effect of “I didn’t kill Travis.” “Travis knows it, and I know it..” – True (for the most part) She obviously killed him, but perhaps because it was self-defense or a crime of passion and NOT premeditation she wasn’t seeing it the same way as the detective or reporters. Travis would know what happened between them on that final day and he would also know that it could’ve either been self-defense or a crime of passion on her part. HE would know that this was the result of his actions.
        Sure, he may not have deserved to die. Who knows? We haven’t heard the entire testimony. The media wants to harp on and on about the lies she told but there is truth behind those lies if they pay attention.

        When you mentioned reviewing the blogs,etc and realized just how much pain a man could cause a woman- you are absolutely right. It can go both ways, of course. Women are definitely capable of hurting men just as bad. I don’t want to bash all men.
        I just wish men could realize that the majority (not all, but a lot) of women aren’t ‘capable’ of having casual sex- and by casual I mean sex/intimacy without having feelings behind it all. It usually always means something to the girl and because it means something to her/has feelings behind it, there is usually an expectation for the guy to care about her. The expectation is that they aren’t being used, they aren’t an object, the feelings between them both are pretty mutual, that the guy not only desires her- but he respects her and cares about her well-being.
        Being confused is one thing, but dragging the other person along in your confusion or using them is not acceptable.

        My thoughts anyway…

        • I’ve thought the same thing as you said, Ben, about her interviews/ only later putting the pieces together/ etc.. Sometimes it seems your mind, body, whatever is just in so much shock after an event that it is difficult to fathom it even happened. I bet it seemed surreal to her, like a dream. I bet she never even imagined HERSELF being capable of what she did.

          I also agree with what you said when comparing their blogs. It seems like Jodi’s has more depth and true thoughts and emotions behind them while Travis’s seem more like one of his prepared motivational speeches. It sounds like something he rehearsed. His writing sounds flat and unemotional to me. I understand guys aren’t always the greatest at expressing their emotions, however, his blogs make me believe he wrote them on a superficial level simply so he could present this facade to others. He has no depth. A fake person has no depth.

    • Yes, and maybe this was mentioned already- but didn’t he also cheat on (at least) one of those ‘good girls’? The type of girl that would’ve been ‘marriage-worthy’ in his eyes? If that IS the case, doesn’t it show that he had NO self-control when it came to sex, etc..? He couldn’t get it one place, so he hung on to that girl and used another girl for sex? (Jodi) Wanted to have his cake and eat it too? Had no respect for those women? (If he did he wouldn’t have treated them that way!)

      If I’m wrong, please let me know. I’m having a difficult time keeping track of all of Travis’s women and the timeline.

    • In Regards to Jodi Arias HAIR COLOR:

      ABE ABDELHADI appeared on Dr. Drew show on 1/16/2003 according to the TRANSCRIPT of the show this is what he said in regards to her hair color/and the prosecutor.

      Abe: The prosecutor informed me she “DYED her HAIR” in APRIL of that year. Thats when she dyed
      her hair.

      Check out the transcript of Dr. Drew show on 1/16/2003.

      • Correction: Date the prosecutor told ABE ADBELHADI that she died her hair was
        1/16/2013…..instead of 2003. Thanks

    • oh, and confirmed pedophiles deserve the death penalty also.

      OR to be locked up forever and forever and forever to keep other innocent people safe.

        • Oh yeah! serial rapists too.

          I think that is one reason I support jodi so much. She isn’t ANY of those things. She isn’t a serial killer, she isn’t a serial rapist, she isn’t a pedophile. (At least that we know of, no one ever really knows another person and what they are capable of.)

          • EXACTLY! !!! I blv pedophiles, even the thought of a child being used for sexual pleasure should be highly punishable and im not saying prison.

      • Small issue with generalizing all of these people who deserve the death penalty…I would bet there are many innocent men and women are sitting in jail forever, including supposed pedophiles, murders, rapists, etc.

        I’m not talking about my opinon of the death penalty here, I’m talking about my opinon of generalizing people.

        Each case is individual to me; folders with subfolders.
        I need lots of proof before I’m possibly senetencing death to an innocent human.

        • Yes I agree M. That’s why I only mention people like in the link. Or people like Jeffrey Dahmer, etc etc. PROVEN serial killers. There are likely innocent people in jail for single murders, single rapes, etc etc….but highly not likely the proven serial/multiple ones are innocent. Or people like the theater killer in Colorado. People SAW him do it. MANY people saw him do it. I would consider that a smoking gun case.

          • People would disagree with me I’m sure, but I don’t know that I even believe (yet) that James Holmes (Colorado movie shooter) deserves the death penalty. He definitely deserves to be sentenced in my opinion, but I think there’s things that need to be considered when it comes to possible mental illness.

            Mental illness can cause otherwise good people to do horrific acts. Yes, there needs to be accountability when committing a crime. I just think mental illness should be evaluated and factored in- if that is the case.

            I know just about everyone besides me wishes the guy death though.

          • No Jamie, I can see that too about mental illness. I am actually against the death penalty now due to this case. I know I was all gung ho up there, but really when it comes down to it I prefer really evil horrible people to be locked up as long as they live, so that perhaps at some point they will create a relationship with their own god/goddess and become healed.

            I believe in reincarnation and it would probably help their souls if they had a bit more time to learn.

    • I agree with each and every one of you.There are monsters out there responsible for multiple abominable crimes like Jeffrey Dahmer(whose 17 murders involved rape,dismemberment,necrophilia and cannibalism)who did NOT receive the death penalty.Jodi is NOT a monster,she definitely did not ”qualify” for that penalty.If the circumstances concerning this case were different this would not be a death penalty case.Period.

      • Dahmer was tried in a state that doesn’t have the death penalty. Otherwise he’d have surely gotten it. I agree with you that Jodi’s case does not warrant the death penalty. There’s circumstantial evidence at best to show premeditation, and it’s weak evidence IMO.

        • To go along with the premeditation thing- I have a question:

          So they’re concerned about her asking for/getting the gas cans in advance. Ok, I get it.
          I believe the concern is that it shows premeditation because she either (A) Wanted to burn the evidence/ house/ whatever or (B) She didn’t want to leave a paper trail of her stopping to get gas from the time she left Travis’s to either go to Utah and/or home.

          Do I understand that correctly or is there more to it? If that’s all they’re thinking, does anyone know if she could’ve driven from Travis’s to Utah on a full tank (i’m trying to give the prosecution some room here) without having to fill up?

          She obviously didn’t burn the evidence (that we’re aware of) nor did she burn the house down…
          I’m pretty sure they (HLN, which we all know ONLY speaks facts. Riiight.) said she stopped for gas at least 1x prior to returning the rental car. I’m not sure if she stopped to fill up anytime between Travis’s and the guy’s house she was going to see in West Jordan, UT though.

          So where’s the premeditation? Also, she could’ve just used cash in order to not leave a paper trail, right? I also think they said she stopped to deposit $ into 2 accounts on the way there- Don’t most people withdraw $ if they’re planning on doing something sketchy rather than deposit $?

          I apologize if I have any of the information wrong. Please correct me if I do

          • Jamie check out the “Truth About James Egan Holmes” facebook page. If youre interested go thru and find tbe james holmes open forum and the LONG list of discrepencies. That is another VERY interesting case.

          • Jamie, about the gas cans. I think, from having driven out in that area before, that having extra gas when you are driving a car with a small tank is actually very good planning. I was afraid once I was going to run out of gas out there….

            Also, Kmiller about holmes…i do know some people who believe he was subjected to experiments and/or medications caused it. The whole reptilian thing 😉

        • Either the cops suppressed evidence or something is up. I don’t buy there were NO pics in the home or hardrive unless evidence was suppressed. Still thinking beyond that.

          ( wondering if this will end up BACKFIRING on the defense big time.)

          • If it is not true it will backfire on the defense big time CJ you can bet on that one. However we do know that TA was using or going to use a proxy server so that he could surf the net anonomously.

          • I wouldn’t be surprised if they had suppressed evidence. They think they already think they are god and pick and choose what evidence to show the jury.

          • Scary to think they would supress evidence. What if Travis had molested someone’s kid and it was their father who came to the house to exact his revenge? Everything on his computer would have been extremely relevent. It wouldnt’ be the first time they drew a wrong conclusion and an innocent person got convicted. Now I realize that Jodi has admitted to killing Travis, but every bit of evidence that would be useful to her case should have been available to her defense team.

          • BeeCee, you said, you wouldn’t be surprised if they had suppressed evidence. It is a known facr that Martinez has done so in one of his prior cases, so yeah… It woulnt surprise me either. And the case was a death penalty too!! What I cant blv is that someone would suppressed evidence and risk someones life!!!!

    • It was posted on another thread Tonysam but that is fine too.. There are so many comments now that we miss things all over the place. I said it when I first saw it and I will say it again.. I feel so very badly for Travis’s family having this kind of stuff come out when they likely had no idea, although the prosecution probably warned them it might be coming. It is my fervent hope no child was harmed.

      • I thought maybe this was already posted, but it’s hard to wade through a bunch of posts, as those other threads are pretty long.

      • Debbie,

        I feel for the family too but I think they were well aware of this coming out. I say that because when Jodi offered the plea to second degree murder, the document stated that should this go to trial, all dirty secrets would be aired including marriages being ruined. Beth Harris reported this on insession. I know from watching a trial go down where a friend’s sister was murdered, that the family had say in accepting any plea deal and they were given information about the defendant….

        Do you think, because this was considered evidence the family didn’t know ( the alleged crime of viewing child porn)? It was my impression that most of this info was included in the plea deal but I could be wrong…

        I sure hope kids weren’t harmed either!

        • Debbie,

          But how can the defense show it is true unless the letters come in? I guess that’s why the have a sexual violence expert listed too ha? I said backfire because the jury may just decide the info is too inflammatory without proof, therefore she must be lying. ( I don’t think that.)

          The proxy server is a good point. I wonder if forensics can still mine data even if one was used? I also wonder whether the cops didn’t look for this evidence and simply turned the his possessions over to the family? Why would they search through his belongings when he was considered the victim? I know when I read the police report yesterday, his home was turned over to the family fairly quickly though.

          Do you think it’s possible that because his brother works for Mesa PD that it played a factor into how this investigation was done? I guess that’s a dumb question…

          • Let me go back and view that article one more time CJ. It seemed to me that those letters that were originally not allowed by a previous judge have now been unsealed and will be allowed at trial. I think that is what was said but will go read and listen again 🙂

          • I didn’t know his brother worked for Mesa PD. I knew his sister was a cop in California, but not about his brother. Interesting detail.

          • Okay this is what was stated *Arias produced letters she claimed were written by Alexander after she walked in on him while masturbating. Martinez denounced them as forgeries; a handwriting expert said they could have been written by Alexander, but they were not admitted into evidence because they were copies, not originals.

            But given the new development, they could come back into play if Martinez, a master strategist as a prosecutor, “opens the door,” as attorneys say.*

            During the evidentiary hearing, Chris Hughes had accused Mr Nurmi of being a liar because of those letters and stated they made no sense whatsoever. He said he had been informed that they were in fact forgeries and that is what he thought. Mr. Nurmi then asked him if he was aware that a handwriting expert determined them to be written by TA and CH said no he was not aware of that.
            So it seems that if Mr Martinez is not careful in his cross examination and brings up those letters at all, Mr. Nurmi will then be allowed to submit them into evidence.

          • Well CJ, in my mind the police were investigating a crime scene.It was a homicide investigation, so I doubt they would have been looking explicitly for pictures of young boys. The thing is, I don’t think it came out that it was child porn he was masturbating to, so he could have had lots of pictures of young boys in his home fully clothed and no one would have thought anything of it.

          • Just wanted to comment to CJ that Travis’ brother is not a policeman in Mesa, although his sister, Samantha Alexander is a police officer in Carlsbad, CA. Also God is spelled with a capital G. It is Beth Karas, not Beth Harris. I guess I proof read too many years. I am in awe reading here by the way. Thanks for your time.

          • Claudia-

            I’m in awe too! Actually, I’m more appalled by what you wrote.
            I can understand trying to fact-check, but why the need to correct grammatical/typing errors?!

            By the way- I don’t give a (lowercase ‘g’)od damn if you discover any errors in my writing. I’m human and CJ is human… Apparently YOU are ‘better than’ the rest of us.

  8. I’m perplexed. While it’s easy to see that Travis was using Jodi for sex, the letters he wrote to her imply trust and that he confided in her his private fantasies. (Fantasies if acted out, would be considered illegal.)

    He must have considered her more than just sex or am I over thinking this?

    So what was Jodi to Travis? Any ideas?

    • So this is what I think could have happened –

      Jodi catches him. The violence dynamic increases due to the secret and travis being scared she may talk. Subsequently, he writes her letters explaining himself.

      That’s the only way this makes sense.

      • That is very possible CJ. Also Travis had either texted or emailed her that she had no respect for privacy and not everyone was like her. I really hate to say this but he may have been right there. She has already testified that she inadvertently pressed the back button one too many times on an ex boyfriend and then read his emails and went and confronted the girl. She also went into TA’s emails and found some from a married woman. I really am not sure what to make of that. I have been married a very long time and do not have any trust issues with my husband. If he inadvertently left his email open I would not read it unless he had told me to. I would just close it into the taskbar and go on with what I am doing. My mother has two words for it “being nosy”.

        • About the snooping…I have no trust issues with my husband either so I don’t go through his emails/phone etc. I have read stories on other forums though where women and men who have been cheated on or have a reason to suspect that they are being cheated on go through the process of installing keyloggers, planting voice-activated recorders in cars, and intercepting phone bills before the spouse receives them. Jodi hitting the back button on a browser and going through emails says to me that she was burned in the past, had a reason to believe that Travis wasnt being honest, and went from there.

          • I agree. Unless you have a reason to mistrust someone you usually don’t have any desire to snoop around in their private stuff. However, once burnt, you tend to be a little more inquisitive.

        • Well, truthfully I’m not sure I believe her back button story unless he had his computer set up to remember passwords. Here is the deal. I was with someone once who was a sex addict and I didn’t know it until they asked me to check their email for something and were emphatic that I NOT look around because bla bla blah. I HAD NO IDEA, may of these addicts are master hiders.

          So of course I did look around, because they had been acting a tad strange, but not overly.

          I ended up using a spy program on the computer to get the WHOLE truth and it was quite eye opening the lengths that people will go to lie and cover up their problems.

          Now, I believe that those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing. And if I were ever with someone again, I would probably use the same tools, IF I suspected something..and it is just because I now understand human nature and have to look out for myself because no one else will.

          Anyone I am with has full access to my phone, email, bank account because I have nothing to hide, and if the other person can’t reciprocate, then they aren’t worth the time and must have some issues they want to hide.

          I would not be surprised if she used some kind of monitoring program after seeing him masturbate with photos…although i would have just dumped him at that point or turned him over to authorities.

          • I think Jodi was nosy because she had been cheated on and because Jodi had that gut feeling women get that he wasn’t faithful and she snooped like women do… Didn’t Travis have her passwords too? That led me to believe they were both jealous.

            I admit I’m nosy after a bad relationship but not to the point of snooping. I just ask questions sometimes. LOL

            I guess I never bought into the idea that she hacked his facebook etc after she moved back to Yreka. I think hacking is easier said that done.

          • BeeCee, again i agree with you!! Lol im agreeing with all your comments today!!! Lol I also blv in; those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing! This is why. Back when my husband and I were BF/GF he cheated (he was talking/texting with some chick) behind my back. I see that as cheating. I wasn’t snooping or anything like that, it was one of those things, a slap in the face kindda thing. Thats how i found out. At the time I didnt see anything wrong with both of us keeping our passwords private. After I found out I realized why his phone was so sacred to him. Lol.
            Anyway, To make a long, very long story short, we went throught the recuperation of the relationship n one of those things were phone/ email privacy. A few yrs ltr/ now we havent n we don’t hide ANYTHING from eachother, afterall if we’re confident n we know we’re not being sneaky about anything why would we have to hide or keep our passwords from eachother. We have no problem with having full access to phone, email, bank accounts or whatever it may be. Because like you, I have nothing to hide, and now if he can’t reciprocate, then he must have
            something/ issues that he is hidding, and they AREN’T WORTH MY TIME EITHER.

          • Oh yeah LC!! I know exactly what you are saying about the “sacred phone”, lololol. Did he have a short temper during that time too?

          • No he didnt short temper. I didnt see anything wrong with him being so attached to his phone, alot of people are like that with there phones, so I didnt. AFTER I found out, then that’s when I was like, duh!!!! Lol no wonder right? ! Now he can care less.

      • That’s what I thought too. If this is true, the letters would be his way of explaining himself.

      • Something just hit me CJ. It was stated that this masturbation incident happened about six months before she wound up killing him. Go back six months and we are in December 2007. It was December 2007 when he had his tires slashed twice and Lisa had hers slashed once and got that email about that insidious man. Is there a connection somehow? Did he want people to believe that she was a stalker because she had something on him?

        • good catch Debbie! Maybe he was going to murder her for knowing his secret and set it up that way.

        • You are good Debbie… So with this theory, he was never being stalked? I know that Lisa D. brought up a roommate that moved out because he didn’t see eye to with Travis. There is a lot we don’t know. And your right, the pics don’t mean they were child porn either.

        • Debbie,

          I just read over the investigative report again. John Hepworth, who lisa mentioned as someone who did not like Travis, moved out from his home one night without notice in DEC 2007.

          Interesting. A lot was going on during those months.

          • Dang it! They so need everyone here to do the detective work for them and/or AT LEAST take what is said into consideration.

            Wish the trial hadn’t already started…

    • i think he considered her lower than him…so he probably felt like he could confide in her since she had allowed him to treat her so badly thus far.

      Also, if she walked in on him masturbating to boy photos, then she already knew his dirt and maybe he was trying to do damage control on what she already knew.

    • I haven’t mzmolly. We were discussing the possibility of these inadmissible letters being introduced into evidence since the judge is going to allow Jodi to tell about walking in on Travis while he was masturbating with pictures of young boys all over his bed.

      • Debbie,

        If there ever were a time for the person who has the originals to come forward, now would be the time… That is a whole other side mystery. Who sent those letters the defense, why not give them originals etc.

        Unless someone from Travis’ side sent them and will not for anything be brought into this.

        Also, when I looked at Jodi’s myspace comments to Travis there was nothing stalkerish about them. I noticed that every comment was a picture! She truly talks and sees in pictures. ( and he had a ton of women leaving comments too.)

        • I really think that with Travis being a victim of a horrific murder, that there is no way they would have kept damning evidence such as child porn to be found. I think they would have allowed the family/Hughes? to dispose of it because he was a victim.

          Sex addicts usually have tons of porn on their computers and I certainly hope the defense expert would have been able to see if any had been deleted or destroyed.

          Yes CJ, Travis’ myspace is very telling. I said this once and I think it got lost, but it appears as if he liked finding women at conferences possibly for sex, and saved the women at church for marriage proposals,

          • Its so apparent the double life – I don’t see why people still can’t grasp that if he could keep one part of his life secret, it ruins his credibility in other areas too BeeCee.

            What do you know about sex addicts and their propensity toward violence? Are the two related? I ask because of the sexual violence expert on the list.

          • Well, I do know a bit about sex addiction through my experience. The one I knew was not violent, but that person was not into anything deviant. I would think that unless they have a personality disorder, then they usually are very ashamed of their actions and hide them as best they can.

            He was also cheating on me at the same time and I had no idea. During that time his behavior made me want to look at his email even though he said not to, his temper had gotten very short and he would get angry very easily about the littlest things and I could not figure out why. I even asked him flat out a few times if he was cheating on me and he denied it….oh so many lies at that time which I found out. I was never afraid of violence from him.

            i never did look at studies, but I would imagine that addicts who have a real deviant problem like child/child porn addiction or who are violent to begin with would probably very easily become violent at having their secret out.

            If someone were so concerned with what people thought of them (like Travis) and it could affect their very social status and standing (like Travis) I could see them getting violent.

          • *Not CHURCH conferences though!* We better make that clear. lol Those were the ‘good girls that were worthy of marriage’ after all.

        • CJ –
          Jodi’s myspace comments being mostly photos (or all photos?) makes me think he told her she couldn’t leave actual “comments”; would be hide a relationship with a stalker if she were leaving lovey comments.

          And it might make it harder to pick up other chicks.

          This crazy or making some sense?

        • Anyone aware if Travis was a victim of sexual abuse? Especially by a male?

          It may have already been said, but it could give some substance to further perpetration or at least tie in with the anal sex, underwear, photos of little boys/masturbating, etc…

          • Good question Jamie. I don’t know if that would be something anyone could find out now if they didn’t already know. It would explain a lot.

          • Perhaps he kept his supposed stalker as a social media friend because he was fearful of whatever information she had on him- didn’t wanna ‘rock the cradle’ or upset her.

          • Jamie,

            I thought that too about Travis. I do know that stats of men who are child molesters often have sex abuse in their background.

    • The copied letters were handed in by Jodi’s mother. No one has seen the originals. They are supposedly forged and not admissible because they are copies

      • No Susan, they are not proven forgeries. I think Nurmi had someone authenticate them as REAL, BUT because they were copies they were not allowed. Martinez and Chris Hughes LIED to the media and perpetuated the LIE that they are forgeries.

        Please look up the information on the documents of this website and you will see they misled people.

  10. Hello everybody!!! GREAT comments as always!!!!!! I´m anxiously waiting for Monday to come so that we can all see first hand what all this evidence is about.I do hope that whatever these letters are,no matter how ´´incriminating´´ towards TA´s character,they will help Jodi to prove her point.
    Debbie,what ´´hit´´you totally makes sense!!! I used to think that this slashed tires incident never actually occured,or that Jodi definitely didnt have anything to do with it!! What I thought was that Travis(usually trying to portray his ex girlfriends as crazy stalkers)either lied to his friends or overeacted to sth.Now that you mention yes,there could be a connection between Jodi caughting him ´´on act´´ and him trying to make HER look bad as a vindication or a means of protecting his good name,by making her look well basically that she was nuts!!
    By the way,have you guys seen this post,made by Chris Hughes on the State vs.JA Facebook page?Im posting it in case someone missed it,ok?

    ” Chris Hughesδημοσίευσε στοThe State vs Jodi Arias ~ Travis Alexander murder trial
    12 ώρες πριν
    OK, so I have been pretty quiet through this trial…so far. We have decided to not do any media until after the trial is over. We had no idea how hard that commitment would be to keep as we had underestimated the attack that would be made on Travis. But we made it, so we will keep it. That said, there are a few things I need to clear up that are floating around on the net…..

    IT (Jodi), being IT, came up with a whole new set of lies in 2010. Lies, I would imagine, she is going to try to work into this trial, as she fights for her life. I didn’t think she would attempt to do this as there is no evidence as to the validity of these claims. There are only letters conjured by IT that were thrown out of court and deemed “fraudulent.” I just figured she, and everyone on her team, had given up on these ridiculous claims until I read the posts below:

    “It also makes you wonder just how much Chris & Sky Hughes really knew about TA’s child addiction (and the physical/verbal abuse he inflicted upon Jodi in private). Remember Sky’s initial reaction to one of TA’s letters too, where she specifically referenced TA’s age of attraction?” and “(& subsequent cover-up of TA’s abuse & child porn-related issues) by Chris & Sky Hughes.”

    UNBELIEVABLE! Are people really this delusional? This info is from fake letters…too fake even for the National Enquirer to run with! That is saying something! Some of you heard me call Nurmi a liar. It was related to these claims. He had LIED to my wife. He emailed her a letter, telling her it was “100% verified to be Travis’ writing” and that there was “irrefutable evidence” backing up these claims. #1- It’s near impossible to verify something 100%. AND it is absolutely impossible to even come close if there is no original (which we later found there is not). #2- There is no, and never has been “irrefutable evidence” to back up these claims. He totally lied! Sky’s reaction to what Nurmi sent her had ZERO to do with Travis and his character, and EVERYTHING to do with Nurmi’s lies and manipulative tactics and her experiences working with sexually abused kids. The ONLY reason Sky even went there, as far as Travis was concerned, was because Nurmi told her there was “irrefutable evidence,” and to us, the only thing irrefutable would be video tapes. We had NO IDEA that it was legal for the defense attorney to lie about evidence to try to sway someone’s testimony (we had been subpoenaed to testify in a hearing the following week). Unbelievably unethical in my opinion.

    I just wanted everyone to be aware of this, because I’m guessing Jodi, being the shamelessly evil person she is, is going to make these asinine claims! Here is what we know about Jodi… and it is truly “irrefutable.” Jodi lies…and lies… and lies… it’s just what she does, and who she is. She has done it from the beginning, and we can expect more of it until this trial is over. To expect anything other than lies from Jodi would be naive at best. Travis is not, and never has been, a pedophile. And only the most despicable of human beings would accuse someone of being such, knowing they are not. There is nothing worse.”

    • HAHA He is delusional. “This info is from fake letters…too fake even for the National Enquirer to run with!” NOPE they are not fake…they are copies. And apparently they need originals…hopefully that will change. The prosecution LIED by saying they were forgeries.

        • Tony, i think the prosecution lied to the media and the public. I don’t think they have said anything to the jury about them.

          They were successful in having the letters not entered due to the fact they were copies.

      • yeah,he’s the delusional one!!! I also found it HILARIOUS that he starts his post by saying ”OK, so I have been pretty quiet through this trial…so far. ”

        • Hey All,

          Does anyone happen to know where you can find/read the transcript of the closed hearing testimony that just took place?

          • Yes I did, thanks CJ. I was just was hoping to read details. (The media condenses so much info into a 2 minute blurb) I watched a news guy talk about it on video and he had this document that looked to be almost 2 inches think. It would have been interesting to go through that.

          • Daniel, the closed hearing you referred to will be sealed until the trial is over and then will be made public .

        • Haha! Yeah, when has he been quiet? I bet he can’t wait to go on the media tour, not because of wanting to clear Travis’s name, but because he wants free publicity for that bullshit MLM scam of his.

    • Why is he even allowed to comment, tweet, write, talk about the case??!!! I really hope Nurmi brings this WITH proof the the judge!! This is rederidiculous that he keeps talking n doing whatever he wants to in this case.

      • That’s what i want to know LC. I thought he had a twitter account, which I can no longer find. But I know people on pro-pros sites have asked him that question directly. As a matter of fact I could have sworn someone asked him about ‘wasn’t he supposed to be staying away from the media’ ON his twitter account. He never responded to that person at the time.

        But obviously he doesn’t seem fazed about it since he posted this above commentary very recently. I think CJ you may have been right before that he is TRYING to make himself not a credible witness to be able to testify on behalf of defense by purposely ignoring media warnings from judge. I don’t know what the penalty is for ignoring a direct court order in AZ. And under these circumstances.

        • Oh… well that could make sense. Him doing it purposely, so he wouldn’t have to testify. BUT thst right there sais alot to me. What does he what to hide or what is he not wanting to answer? Becausehe knows lying Iis a sin!

        • Actually,

          I think Chris H, most recent outburst is so well timed, that it’s my opinion he got the okay to leak that info by Martinez or Flores. The timing of his rant along with the new media report about Travis coming out was too coincidental to not notice. Using this site as his reason was just a smoke screen. His intent was to counteract the idea that Travis may have been into kids…

          Now what the judge will have to say about him doing all this is another matter…

    • No suprise that he’s posting on a site full of “fry Jodi!” nutbars. The State vs. Jodi page is full of media lemmings who want to nominate Travis for sainthood without ever having known him. Creepy!

      And of course it’s all Nurmi’s fault…isn’t Chris the one who emailed Travis about how he was treating Jodi? Isn’t Chris the one who stuck his big pumpkin head into Gus Searcy’s business in order to gather info for the prosecution? Yeah…

      • isnt it ironic how Mr Hughes is projecting his personality on Gus Searcy ?Who is it that is all over twitter preaching? NOT GUS! Who has done interviews with all the big news outlets? NOT GUS!

    • -puke- Chris Hughes is a horrible human being. Wasn’t he Travis’ mentor? This dick of a man, Chris, seems to be so stupid that he just tried to belittle Jodi by referring to her as “IT”, but then 70% of the time calling her “HER”.

      Not to mention the whole explaination of how great he is for vowing to stay out of the media (until the trial over, how sweet) just before writing a post for the media.

      One man with soooo many character flaws.
      Its a sad waste of air.

      Dear Chris Hughes –
      I think you may have failure to thrive symdrome. Just give it up already and rot in hell.

      Sincerely,
      M.

    • Jodi being called “IT” just shows how these people think. All humanity stripped away, and even animals are thought to deserve being described with pronouns of she or he; but Jodi is not. Once again Jodi is merely an object, her life is viewed as meaningless as a toaster.

      Her humanity is not self evident, and can be denied at any moment and on their terms. This goes back to the t-shirts and underpants made saying “Travis Alexander’s.” Like Jodi was a possession of Travis – like a tv, a chair, a book would be. Something to be used and abused without accountability.

      Say you own a book, and one day you get so angry you rip the pages out. Nobody cares if you rip the pages out, because you own the book and it’s your right to do with the book as you please. The book is not seen to have value in and of itself. You can always buy more. The idea of a book having rights is humorous, because it’s sole purpose for existing is for your pleasure – and if there is no pleasure it is thrown away, destroyed, or given to someone else to see if they get pleasure from it.

      That is how Jodi was treated by Travis, and continues to be treated by the people who follow his example. What they aren’t bright enough to realize is that this proves her claims to self defense – Jodi’s life literally meant nothing to Travis. She had no reason to believe he would spare his hand even if the last blow meant certain death. Why would she? She was given no reason to.

      To think this is how so many women are treated every day, and that the media clowns have decided to tell the world it is perfectly “normal.” This should be an outrage, but unfortunately not enough people see it as important to get angry about.

      • “CTR” (Choose The Right) obviously means a lot to these people! “These people” being associates/supporters of TA’s behavior. He was probably even wearing a CTR ring when he wrote that.

    • Wow. He’s immature. Referring to Jodi as “IT”! Goes to show how TA and friends treat others.
      I don’t get it- so did his wife lie or what was he trying to say? I get that he’s blaming others…

      • We’ll see. Sky will be coming up soon. She tried to get out of appearing in court, but judge said she HAD to. So, im waiting for her two faced big mouth to be called up to the stand. She looks like one of those big gossip lovers!!! Maybe shell slip up a little.

        • He makes it sound like she said something that wasn’t true though, doesn’t it? And is the excuse that Nurmi ‘made’ her?

          • Is he the one that lives in Utah? I’m getting all these people mixed up. If so, I’m disgusted to share the same state with the guy. Gosh, I’d hate the think one of them lives near me

    • The statement made by CH (above):

      CH: “Travis is not, and never has been a pedophile”.

      How would HE possibly know …….. if he was …. .or if he wasn’t?????

  11. Katia, NO ONE here is cheering Travis’ death! We’re here to support Jodi plain and simple. The vast majority of people who post here are good and decent and want to see a just verdict in this case. You make it sound like we all want to dig up the body of Travis and defile it for God’s sake!:-(

  12. I’m curious about all of the beautiful, godly women that Travis seem surrounded by…..he “dated” so many but had no spark with any of them?

      • I don’t know. I’m just wondering about the parade of women that he was surrounded with..all that would fit the bill to be marry to and nothing came of any of them?

        • Especially when considered a ‘menace to society’ if not married by/before his age as far as the religious aspect goes.

          • He had all of the traits on the surface mormon girls look for, money, elder in the church. Im pretty sure they all figured out he was a creep once they got a.closer look.

    • Hi Freeda, 🙂 because they aren’t even beautiful or sexually appealing. I mean, did you see them? Jodi is far more beautiful than those women. He just wanted sex and used Jodi. He treated her like a possession of his but never intended to marry her. He wasn’t into getting married, he just wanted sex.

      • I think it’s interesting that people on the “travis was a god” pages rant about Jodi being a slut and a whore and sleeping with dozens of men, while Travis seems to have had multiple woman in the cue. How many did he date (eh hmm, DATE)? Also, all those girls that he didn’t stay with, or marry, isn’t it possible the relationships didn’t work out BECAUSE a.) he constantly tried to get them to give him a b.j. in a parking lot, or b.) He NEVER tried anything at all, and they figured out something was wrong with him?

  13. Hello all- I’m curious. How many here believe the self-defense claim as opposed to Jodi’s second story about the home invasion? I realize Travis was abusive, but everytime i sift thru the facts, there are a few tnings that just don’t fit. Also at the very beginning of the video when she tells this story to Flores, she says, ” Its just better people think I did it”. She also seems like she doesn,t really care if he believes her or not, and does not plan on using the information any further. I believe her, especially since I find this makes perfect sense if you believe there may be some truth to the blood attonement ritual theory.

    • kmiller,

      I missed that completely, with Jodi saying to Flores : ” Its just better people think I did it”. Whoa.

      Can you point out to me where in the video of interviews, specifically, she says that- so I can go watch it again? (That is if you remember. Not asking you to do any laborious research.)

      Thanks.

      • Oh. I missed that completely about her saying that…but that would go along with how I feel about this. Kmiller, if you have a link please share. I will look for it also.

        • I watched it on youtube. I assume its the same version. Maybe the one i saw shows more in thebeginning but it is the very beginning and the end of it is dumb dumb Flores telling her point blank I dont believe it, it makes no sense they would let you live and kill him. It does if the killer believes his murder is justified in Gods eye but jodis would not be. Again if youdont find I will post links later when Im on my PC this Tablet sucks:(

      • Daniel- yes it is in first few minutes of the video. I watched it last night for the first time with headphones to make out some of the things it is hard to hear. She is very nervous wiping her sweaty palms on her pants playing with her hands and hair, putting her hands on her face and over her mouth. Its easy to miss some of the things she says at almost a whisper, then she talks about how she fears for the safety of her family right after. The blood atonement ritual info can found with a simple google search. My appologies I am on a tablet and not sure how to post the link. The ritual its self includes a slicing of the throatfrom ear to ear (exact wording), letting the blood drain into the grave site (the shower drain) and washing of bloody garments. It was ( very short summary) done as a “loving gesture” from one morman to another so that they may be forgiven for sins that can only be forgiven by the mans own. The only way to be forgiven for a sin such as and especially ADULTERY. Didnt Jodi say she showed a friend (sky) proof of Travis committing adultry with a mormons wife?

          • This is all insane.
            I never knew she said that to Flores.

            I try really hard to just focus on the Jodi killing Travis because she admitted to it, I’m not saying my mind never wanders and that no else’s is allowed to, I just try to stay focused on the task at hand.

            Howevever – this is really making my mind wander again.

        • BeeCee,

          It says the video doesn’t exist. I’m trying to catch up. What did Jodi say or Flores in summary? I’m lost in this thread LOL.

    • Yes!!! I blv shes innocent because someone did it, she happened to be there n her life was threatened along with her family. She also said, if she was to be found guilty, shed rather take the DP then life in prison. “I” personally would too. Rather then to have my one of ny family members die like what they did to TA, I would’ve taken the fall for it too.

    • I thought of this in the middle of the night the other day…and just remembered it.

      Jodi’s grandparents’ house was tiny. Is it possible that the people Travis sent to talk to her about Mormonism could have seen the guns while they were there? It didn’t look like they were hidden or locked very well. Who else from that group visited her home?

      • BeeCee- The Mormons visited the house she and Darryl had together. Not the grandparents house. But, that’s a good point.

        • Sometimes the missionaries or ‘relief society’ members make multiple trips. It might be possible they visited her at G-Ma’s… I dunno.. Just throwin’ stuff out there.

          Unless the missionaries left her alone once she was baptized. I know the ones in UT refuse to leave me and my family alone. They sooo wanna convert us! lol

      • Wouldn’t the mormons sent to jodi (that we know about at this point) going to the house she shared w/ Darryl?

    • Kmiller,

      I can’t seem to find a youtube video that shows Jodi saying this. If you can find it and would post the link it would be much appreciated! Was this at the beginning of interview on the 2nd day of interviewing after the first night she spent in jail and just before she told the story of the home invasion? Or was it another time?

      Thanks

  14. If someone said that someone I loved was a pedophile I wouldnt be happy about it ,especially if that person had killed my loved one but the reality is this, Pedophiles do not run around with a stamp on their forehead. I have many friends that I am very close to but I have no idea what they are into sexually. In this case it would be even less appropriate for Travis to talk about anything sexual, let alone about kids. Being so certain and pushing so hard that he wasn’t seems to imply the opposite. Do we see his sisters running around saying hes not a pedophile? No we dont because they think its not true and that the truth will come out in court but Mr Hughes me thinks thou doth protest too much.

    • Yeah. Unless Mr. Hughes was with Travis 24/7 (and I mean 24/7!) he would have no idea what TA did or didn’t do.

  15. I just want to add that I know from knowing people in law enforcement that they abhor pedophiles…HOWEVER, they want to be the one to bring them to justice. The next on their list is anyone who murders. So, that is why I believe IF there had been any evidence like boy photos laying around, that the family/friends/hughes would/could have done something with them.

    Law enforcement would be after a pedophile, but if a pedophile were murdered, then they would be after the killer, regardless of whether or not the person was scum or not.

    • Here’s something about the photo’s that has been driving me cRaAAaazzZyyy! They keep saying there is no evidence of them! Well DUH! Nobody would leave any trace of that in their home. Jodi said they were actually photo’s and the prosecution (family, friends and supporters..and Nancy grace, and JVM) are all saying “but there is no evidence to support that claim”, that they went through his computer and found nothing. Well, isn’t it possible that he some how got his hands on the pictures some place besides his own computer and then OBVIOUSLY, after Jodi walked in on him, he destroyed them AND any other materials stashed in his room? Seriously, I can’t stand the way it’s like their is a blackout on common sense on those shows, it’s really incredible.

    • Oh yeah, this is the interrogation part that convinced me the second story was closer to the truth, I just didn’t remember that she said that. Flores was convinced she alone did it based on the lies that she was a stalker…he is stupid. REAL good detectives don’t hone in on one person RIGHT away, They collect evidence and go from there. He basically looked for evidence that she did it…without considering anyone else.

  17. She says its better everyone thinks it was her. Flores says, ” it’s not better”, Jodi say, ” it IS, it is, really, you have no idea”

  18. Oh- sorry Bee Cee I didnt realize you found it already:)

    I could’t help but think that Jodi was taking the wrap because she is more afraid of who ever did this than jail or DP so she may have weighed out her options/ chances and went with the choice she felt was best. Self defense. Maybe this way one day she will see day light again without being afraid for herself or her family. She did take a while to come to this point. so, last night when I saw this I was more convinced of this than ever.
    I didn’t follow this trial from the beginning. Once I realized the interesting twists to it, “the Mormon Factor”, I knew there was more here than your average story. I won’t appologize for calling Mormonism a cult or a Mafia gang disguised as a religion!

  19. MZMollyMack- this is a good link for a short understandable description of the blood atonement ritual. Note that it mentions adultery as one of the sins requiring this for forgiveness. i think since Jodi testified that she told Sky about an E-mail she saw of proof Travis engaged in an affair with a fellow mormon’s wife, maybe Sky will be questioned about this when she takes the stand.

    I followed the Casey Anthony case very closely also (a shout out to all my peeps from the JB site). when the defense argued Caylee drowned by accident, it was also implied thru-out the trial that George could just as easily been the “responsible”. It was revealed after the trial in Baez book that Casey thought he may have murdered her, or in some way more responsible.
    My hope here is that the defense here is self defense, but MAYBE they will (and I think the jury suspects it already with their questions about the room mates whereabouts) throw out many hints to cause reasonable doubt, that he could have been killed by someone else. Maybe Jodi will claim that she only remembers being knocked out and when she woke up he was dead.
    I know this all sounds a bit jumbled up, and is just merely a jumbled theory in my mind, but can anyone else see any of this?

    • Yes, Kmiller, it DOES to me. I think iv also agreed with you on this same possibility before, but not sure. I blv there was someone else in that room n jodi is so scared, shes takkng the fall. Even by the pictures, I can see someone else being there, the house being cleaned, n the camera being left behind with the memory stick (jodis a photographer) why would she lv the camera there?! And someone had mentioned that TA was on the kitchen counder, a ring that he’d never taken off. Now your going to tell me, the roommates didn’t find this??!!! Iv always felt that detective Flores didnt do his job!! Oh and lets not mention the weight n size, theres no way that a women jodis size is going to win a fight with a man as healthy as TA. No way….. I don’t care if he was naked or not. She was taking pictures of Travis and BOOM, that when these people came in….. if you go back to the column where the pictures are, youll find my comments on how I saw two picutes taken, that it looks like there could’ve been someone else there.

      But your not alone if your thinking that her 2nd story was what really happened.

      • The fact that TA’s ring that he always wore and his watch came right from the investigative report of Detective Flores LC.

        • See, I didnt even know from the actual report. Wow!! And he probably didnt even think that was off, that the roommates didn’t Q that! !!! Flores was either very lazy or he dudnt want to work!!

      • I really hope more is said about the e-mail Jodi saw about the adultery, hopefully when Sky is on the stand.
        I didn’t know about the ring and watch, good info.

          • No we don’t. i was thinking- if we knew who it was then we know who else might be responsible.

            If the invasion is the true story it could be a number of male/ female duos in this whirlwind. husband/ wives, brother/sisters, daddy/daughters, new/old boyfriend/girlfriends, roomates……

          • Molly,

            From the police report, it’s my impression that the woman who called in the tip on her own husband, while saying they were divorced, when they weren’t, is the woman he was probably messing around with…

          • Wow – Debbie thanks. I think its makes most sense that Ashley Thompson is likely the married person Travis was messing with.So, she calls the anonamous tip line and tells them they should take a look at her hubby. When she is questioned about it and she realizes its not anonamous after all, she says she no longer suspects him after thinking about it, and all is well…… is there an interview of her hubby floating around. There is mention there will be one at a later date, but perhaps once they got pics proving Jodi was there, forget EVERYTHING else!

          • I don’t know anything about that Kmiller. I found it strange that the one room mate Zach had been home between 3 and 4 in the afternoon the day that travis died but never saw Jodi’s car there nor heard anything that made him think anyone was home. He doesn’t mention seeing Jodi there or anything like that. Yet when Enrique came home, he noticed Travis ring and watch in the kitchen, the door locked, the dog fence up so the dog couldn’t get upstairs and Travis door and office door closed, but didn’t seem to think anything of these things.

          • Yes Debbie I agree about the roommates. The ring and watch in the kitchen, and also What about the cell phone? I need to comb back over the report, but wasnt that one of the first things Flores mentioned he spotted? Do you recall where it was sitting? Wouldnt it have rang at some point? Also Flores says the smell was apparent as soon as he entered the house. The roomate mentioned he noticed travis door was locked, can you imagine how pugnent the smell must have been upstairs? 5 adults had been in the house and not one thought anything? Plus the roomates and theirfriends stressed tthey never hung ou, tneir reason for not knowing his whereabouts, yet tney were in his bathroom to get medicine, travis bought his camera based onhis roomates opinion, they knew what his bedding looked like, knew about his trip to mexico, knew he liked mimi, and knew many details about jodi. Never talked, never hung out, never even had dinner together since they moved in………..

          • I was going over the reprt too. Kmiller, I blv yes, the cell phone along with the laptop in the office room. I also noticed on page 8 of 20 the interview with Zach he stated he noticed that it looked like someone was cleaning. He then notice some supplies where put away but thought that the other roommate, Enrique must’ve put them away (but the vacuum was still out in the middle of the floor). Then he states that at some point he went downstairs n it felt like the banister n thought it was a little slick as though it had been cleaned…… so, who cleaned it n why???? Well it wasnt Jodi cux by this time, sge had been gone already, right?! And this Enrique guy, he had only been there two weeks! What’s up with this guy? ??? Oh and isn’t it wierd that Zach was looking for some jumper cables, so he must’ve been walking all around the laundry room to get to the garage but didnt notice that the wasing machine had a blood stain?????

    • Very strange since The Jury in the very onset thought someone else was involved. Many of These Mormons Groups have a Lot of Money that type of killing reminds me Of Certain Masonic Groups.
      Perhaps this had more to do with what Travis and The Mormons. I have a hard time believing she did this. Who knows she could have taken this evidence and sent it to his friends. Perhaps that is why his friends are silent about Travis. It is certainly a lot more to this story the Whole Mormon Cultism.

  21. Ive been following this and the trial for awhile now. From what I would believe if I was a juror, that Jodi was mistreated sexually and emotionally by Travis. To me Travis hid behind the shield of the Mormon’s and used whatever power and excuses he could to seduce other women into having sexual relations with him. I do believe that Jodi defended herself but I don’t think she was alone. Knowing how elusive and secretive the Mormon churches are by outside memebers, it sounds like the mormon community took it upon themselves to try and silence her and travis. It fits, Travis gave the Mormom community a bad repuation to its values, and what better way to silence him and her.

  22. Hey Paul,

    I find it rather ironic that you would come here to insult our intelligence with your asinine post above and then misquote a renowned English idiom…

    Even my 5 year old knows that it’s “A LEOPARD does not change its spots” and not as you quoted, “the cougar did not change color.”

  23. I hope Martinez loses his cool during cross examination “An angry person is a weak person”. The Jury has established a connection with JA and that is always a positive sign. The more they hear her talk and listen to her life story the more connected they become. This connection is building up like steam in Martinez’s head which is about to explode (and I hope it does). The defense is playing it right. Besides, there is still no direct evidence for pre-meditation, zip, nada!!

    • Hi:-)

      A thought about Martinez:

      I think Martinez MAY keep his cool only because I think the anger may be an act. I read yesterday, that he has only lost one case. He won another self defense case where the woman was on the stand for three days. I bet he knows that if he yells at jodi, it could turn the jury off. He doesn’t seem angry when she’s testifying. He looks like he’s taking notes to impeach about every detail.

      He makes me nervous!

      • Makes me nervous too cj, I agree his anger is an act, he has alot of experience, I do see him blowing up though, but I think will try and shake the impression of Jodis calm demeanor by aggitating her.

  24. SJ – beautiful post! Absolutely outstanding.

    And I echo LC’s comment above that this is the ONE and ONLY site where Jodi supporters can congregate and express themselves without fear of being silenced, censored, banned, ridiculed, or attacked. There is no reason for anyone to feel that they cannot speak the truth about Travis without getting slammed and accused of shit they never said.

    I know I genuinely support Jodi because I feel a very visceral reaction to whenever she is mistreated – it’s like getting punched in the gut. I feel, and KNOW immediately the wrongness of the things she endured. I know there is no excusing, no scrubbing or pretending away the disgusting things Travis did to her and probably many other women.

    On the other hand, I can tell when someone supports Travis – their first instinct is to protect HIM, to compartmentalize and sanitize every ugly thing HE did to mean nothing, and cast doubt on Jodi and the defense at every possible moment.

    “THE WORLD IS A FAR BETTER PLACE WITHOUT TRAVIS ALEXANDER.”

    Yes! I admit that the thought has crossed my mind several times; and not only a better place, but a SAFER place because abusers like Travis do not stop when one woman decides to stop putting up with it. They move on to target other women who have the same insecurities and issues with self worth. Lisa read him the riot act via email and he moved on to Jodi, perfect example. It’s logical to deduce that if Jodi hadn’t have ended up killing Travis in self defense, someone else might have.

    This doesn’t mean I enjoy the fact that Travis died a violent death. But Jodi had to do what she had to do to survive, and I REFUSE to begrudge her that. I REFUSE to demand her be punished for the crime of simply continuing to exist. I REFUSE to entertain the idea that Travis’ life is worth so much fucking more than hers, that she should rot in prison for the rest of her life for defending herself.

    I am proud to support Jodi as well. She is a sensitive, graceful, and loving soul that has done nothing to deserve the vitriol of reckless hate constantly steamrolling in her direction. She deserves every ounce of support, every kind word, every defense she has – especially now in her time of trial.

    Team Jodi!

    • Well said MB! 🙂 love the part about “a better place, but a SAFER place because abusers like Travis do not stop when one woman decides to stop putting up with it. They move on to target other women who have the same insecurities and issues with self worth”. I couldn’t agree more with you! 🙂 *Team Jodi

  25. Im very afraid about the testimony what is expected tomorrow because it seems to be a story of fiction… for the jury to believe that her words is not enough at all the defense must have something to support it

    • I agee Eli, iv been thinking that same thing. Why would the risk it if they DIDNT havr SOMETHING?! I really hope they do!!

    • Eli I was thinking about the huge leap the defense is making by bringing this testimony but I also think they must have something to corroborate her story. Maybe it’s the letters or the phone recording that’s been mentioned so much…. But something besides her testimony. It would help her in this case.

    • Yeah Eli. I’m concerned also. So many people think she is a constant evil liar, I’m not sure how the jury will take it without something concrete.

      Her life is on the line. If it were me I would still try even if I didn’t have anything to back it up.

      well, I would have never killed anyone, but if I were wrongly accused I would lawyer up and NEVER say I was guilty if I weren’t. UNLESS I were protecting my family….ugh…so complicated and so many people can’t see it.

  26. I notice alot of female haters of Jodi especially on HLN.. these women should just admit they hate on any woman who is attractive. I am a woman and I know how hateful and mean females are towards a beautiful female. Lol.. Anyways, I think Travis Alexander was a fake! In my opinion, I believe he was good at talking (remember he was a “motivational speaker”), and making females believe he was a good person but when it came to being sexually attracted to Jodi, he used her and made fun of her and trash talked her to his friends. Those other women who were his ex’s say he wasn’t sexual with them.. Well of course, they weren’t sexually appealing as Jodi is! Lol.. I don’t believe that he deserved to die the way he did but if anyone was careless and treated another person with disrespect and used them, then you never know when they will snap and what their hurt will make them do to you! Travis invited that into his life when he used Jodi for sex and continued to see other women! The world would definitely be a better place without men like Travis! Womanizer!! It isn’t our place to decide who dies but if you act carelessly with another persons feelings, then get ready for what may come if that person snaps!

    • Shay, you are so right…. as immature as it sounds, its the truth. Woman bully other woman that are prettier! They get a kick out of it n it makes them feel better about themselves. Thats why there are so many woman against Jodi, just for that simple fact!!!

    • Hello Shay,

      That is how I see it. Also, I don’t buy the story that Travis was a 30-year old virgin. For one thing, if a man holds out until the age of thirty, I seriously doubt that he would be asking for anal sex, as it appears he spoke about in a phone recording. I don’t buy it. I held out almost that long, until marriage. And, I had “one goal” in mind, physically speaking. And, it wasn’t anal sex. It was NORMAL SEX! Also, unless the woman says “no” it does look like the man is pretty much in charge, in those situations. So, if Travis voluntarily initiated anal sex, of his own volition, then I think that shows what kind of man he is – definitely an abusive man, and not a “newbie” to sex.

      Travis’ track record does not look anything like thta of a man who steadfastly held out for sex, until the age of thirty. Likewise, his abusive treatment of women does not look like the behavior of an innocent, inexperienced boy. From the evidence that is on the table, it is obvious that he was a master of maintaining a double standard, and living a double life. Maybe the real reason that he was not married at thirty was because he was having too much “fun”. Also, when people say that no women ever came forward, that does not say much. He could have hired hotel prostitutes, for all we know, while he traveled around the country giving seminars. Today, what is a prostitute going to do? Come forward and say, “Yeah, this guy paid me for sex”? That would be confessing to a crime. Given that Travis was publicly a “good Mormon”, it stands to reason that his experiences were not with other Mormon women. Most likely, they would have been women outside of the church. In Jodi’s case, after they hooked up, she wanted to become a Mormon, too. Maybe this threw a big wrench in Travis’ mode of operation.

  27. Oh and I wanted to thank SJ for creating this site. I was searching for people who agreed with me that Travis was a scumbag and those who were for TEAM JODI 🙂

  28. Does anyone know? When jodi tells where she discarded weapons at, can prosecutor use that evidence in his rebuttal if they are found?

    • Missy, good question, but I’m going to be honest. Even though she is now saying she did it…what? two years after being locked up, if you watch the interrogation, I really think the intruder story was closer to the truth…

      So, what I mean is, she may not be able to direct them to the weapons if she wasn’t the one who cleaned up after the fact. I’m not sure how well she is going to come across to the jury if she is actually faking a story of her killing him in self defense and not the intruders…

      I believe her sharing the abuse is real, I’m not sure how it’s gonna play when she gets to that fateful day though. Jodi haters are going to say she is lying either way, so she can’t win. Even that idiot detective Flores didn’t listen to her. He didn’t pay attention to the evidence, instead he looked for evidence that it was her.

      Have you watched the interrogation?

      • Yes i seen the interview. But she is under oath to tell the truth,are you saying she lied to the jury?
        The only reason i asked is because she can remember alot of details.You can discard a gun and knife but to destroy them.

    • Oh yeah! Thanks Jamie…I was trying to avoid that troll..I was hoping it would just be deleted, but I guess that would be cruel..

      .i ain’t been doing so good lately.

      good gods and goddesses what am I to do 🙂

  30. I’ve followed this story for years and never posted until now. I don’t doubt Jodi may be exagerrating some things, may not be completely forthcoming about others, but I am disgusted by seeing Travis Alexander’s friends, family and mormons keep pretending he was something he wasn’t.

    Jodi may not even fully realize how insecure she was- she probably felt loved by any attention from him and instead of being a friend and letting her move on – he was the weak one who kept using her for sex and keeping it hushed up. He knew she was insecure and could be easily influenced- that’s why he kept going back to her. Jodi was never the one in control. Spare me the Travis was a holy mormon bull. The mormons should be distancing themselves as far as possible.

    He was messing with the wrong girl, and she snapped. Whether it happened like she said or not- who knows.

    I hope she walks- and I hope the world loses this idea that Travis Alexander was such a wonderful person. He may have had a lot of good qualities but the hypocricy of his actions overshadow them.

  31. I Really do not want them to kill this woman,she seems honest to me while on the stand,and people ask why stay with the douche bag , people dont get it,there are still women everywhere who put up with alot of abuse.Yeah I believe her.

  32. Jamie, I am not better than you or anyone else here. I am not Mormon, but by the Grace of God I was forgiven of my sins. I do no like God’s name taken in vain since he died for the sins of Me and you. I meant no harm in what I said. Please forgive me if you took it personally.

  33. I do not condone the killing, but I am in an abusive relationship myself and you cannot just “get outL that easy. These abusive men should learn how to respect women. Jodi must have just snapped.

  34. First and foremost, I would like to say, I am a woman. Next, my sincerest sympathies to Travis’ family for their loss and the pain they are going thru due to his death. Now if I may, I would like to share my mixed feelings on the trial, Travis’ death, Jodi’s trial, and everything that led up to this. I am also someone who has experienced a great deal of hurt and pain, due to domestic violence, abuse (verbal, mental anguish, physical, and deviant control). I do not condone Jodi killing Travis, assuming we are all aware by this time that she is the one who did it. And although I am sad for his family and for the loss of a young life, I can see how this can happen. There are so many pro-Travis websites out there, as well as media reps and public outcry to fry Jodi. My personal opinion is strong on this and I can’t seem to shake myself away from the feeling that she was in a position of fear and she reacted during a split second when she could not break free from the survival mode she was in due to her fear and the impending abuse that was to come should she not react NOW!

    I believe every last word of what she has testified to on the stand. I don’t see her lying at all now because I myself have gone thru much of this and the fear is so overwhelming at times, and the degradation is nothing less than complete loss of esteem and hopelessness. Obviously we don’t all react in the way she did, and that does not make what she did “right”. But how can the court and jury not look at the things that lead up to Travis death in a more objective light, considering she was abused severely in every sense of the word. I really feel for her and the loss of esteem that grew over time while she was being abused. She loved him obviously. Whether he was ever capable of loving or not, he at least went far beyond the norm to make her believe they had something…when in reality he used her as long as possible for his own sick pleasure and then when he no longer needed her to fulfill his fantasies, he threw her and her feelings aside and opted for a “good girl”. That’s not to say Jodi wasn’t good, mind you, but in his eyes she did not fit the bill of what his religious peers and his and others beliefs expected. Travis fought with himself over his religious convictions and the Mormon expectations and his personal fight inside his head to fulfill his deviant sexual fantasies. In Jody, he found himself a woman who was quiet, somewhat weak, “wanting for love” and quite vulnerable to Travis’ advances (after all HE approached her from the start).

    She welcomed the attention because she wanted to be cared for and wooed. She wanted to travel and given pretty things. She wanted to feel “special”. But not long after the relationship began, Jodi learned Travis was not the man she thought she was and he began taking advantage of her sexually, AND SPIRITUALLY…as displayed by his mentoring and his teaching of what is considered right and wrong in the Mormon faith. She slowly learned Travis was leading her astray and breaking all the rules which she attempted to learn about and follow. It’s like the cubscout leader who is placed in apposition of trust to lead the young boys into adulthood. Or the Sunday School teacher placed in apposition of authority over young children. I also compare it to the Day Care issue we read about in the news. Regardless of the age of the abused, the comparison is definitely there. Someone who allowed themselves to trust another human being out of the strong need for acceptance and security. This time it was Jody who had these needs. She trusted Travis. She expected his word to be the absolute word. She placed him so high on a pedestal and fell in so deep for him that she was trapped in his web of deception long before the abuse began. I want to reiterate, I am really upset at the end result being Travis’ death. I can somehow feel for both people, yet at the same time, I understand how this could happen TO JODI. Jodi displays the demeanor of not the confident psychopath as much of the media portrays her, but the broken person she has become due to the abuse she has endured. I remember when my abuser followed thru with his final threat on me. In a split second I had a choice to make and believe me that’s all the time I had to react.

    Someway and somehow, I was able to resist the fear inside me and tell myself to just stand there and not fight back. I too could have struck back, and at times I felt strongly about how I would react if he physically attacked me again. I wrestled with myself over all of it between the long periods when I just knew he truly loved me and I let my guard down long enough to allow myself to trust him yet again. When the time came, and the last dramatic event which altered my life was staring me in the face, I froze. I could not fight back. His anger put me into such a state of shock that I was not myself, but I found the strength to hold back, which ended in my being hurt. Severely. I would love to be an advocate for domestic violence survivors. I wish somehow the general public could understand the fear we face in these situations. It is just far to difficult to portray our fear and WHY WE KEPT GOING BACK.

    Most professionals say it is co-dependence, and people we do not know say we are just plain stupid. Most of us who have faced this situation have NOT made our friends and family aware of what is going on. WHY? You ask? That’s a hard one. Is it because we want them to accept our abuser and see them as the hard-working individual they are? Maybe it has something to do with humiliation or shame in allowing ourselves to fall so hard for a person like this. Travis seems on the outside to be a “normal” man. But he was not. He was an abuser and there is no other way to look at it. He didn’t deserve to die, but he reached out low to a vulnerable woman who worshipped his word and the ground he walked on. He knew she was easily persuaded and even more easily trusting. This is why I say Jodi was weak. She “wanted to be loved by Travis”. That is the reason she could see nothing he did as wrong, and ignore many of his deviances and accept him as the attractive, funny, and hard-working man he was, hoping she could help him overcome his sick closet-fantasies, all the while allowing herself to be abused along the way. Gawd, I know this all sounds crazy, but I said in the beginning that it is so hard to explain to anyone who hasn’t been there. NO ONE can understand any of this unless you yourself have faced it.

    Back to what I was talking about earlier, I was in a similar situation, and yes there was a block of knives right beside me on the kitchen counter when everything began. I felt so much fear at the moment that I could easily have let myself reach out and grab one. I don’t know why I didn’t honestly. I am not an abusive person, nor am I spiteful, hateful, vengeful or physical. I guess I was one of the lucky ones to be just a slight bit stringer than Jodi. I don’t want to see her be executed for this act of murder. She doesn’t deserve it. Apparently her psyche had met it’s limit and mingled with the extreme fear she was faced with, she likely snapped and unconsciously reacted out of self-defense. Maybe she should undergo lengthy counseling and even probation and a short sentence such as 5 years for this crime of murder, but to execute this girl who has spent years punishing herself inside for Travis death, would be wrong. It won’t quit here. She pays for what happened every day in a very excruciating way, as in quilt. Guilt of ending anothers life, not guilt in intentionally killing another human being. This has got to be the most awful thing anyone can imagine. In punishing her with even a life sentence, she would pay further than the crime of murder in self defense mandates. Jodi is very weak and very impressionable and she would require some serious professional help to get beyond the events that must replay themselves in her mind daily.

    She will always carry with her the events that lead up to that final day. She is being punished. It should never have come to this, although I will reiterate she wasn’t strong enough to resist Travis and his behavior became acceptable inside her mind, as she hoped to change his sick ways and center him entirely on her and the love she had for him. Yes. I will say it over and over. This IS NOT love, but she just didn’t see it that way. Many of us have “seen” love when it wasn’t there, and only because we wanted it and we allowed ourselves to trust and believe because of our need to truly have just that. I could write a couple more paragraphs easily, but rather than doing that, I want to close by saying again, I am so sorry for Travis’ family’s loss and their pain. But most of all, I am sorrier for the pain and abuse Jodi went thru and for her not having the strength to seek help and escape Travis’ evil (Yes! I said EVIL) abusive clutches. If there is anyone who can understand the point I have tried to make here, then you understand how difficult it is to put into words the psychological reasoning behind this crime. Jodi is not “guilty” of anything other than being a needy, impressionable, trusting, vulnerable, and gullible woman who committed what the law defines as “murder in self-defense”. Please everyone who reads this pray for her. She has a long painful road ahead and I know that our Higher Power is fully aware of “the truth”. Let’s give Jodi our support and pray He brings true justice for Jodi. Thanks for listening.

  35. I can almost guarantee that Jodi is going to have a hard time testifying what Travis did to her that day or any day. You can tell she still loves him and she still defends his bad behavior even when it belittles herself. It is sad the control an abuser has over his victim even after they are dead.

  36. Can someone please explain this to me? JA was taking photographs of TA in the shower. We know that. Was the attack carried out entirely in the shower? If so, why is there so much blood elsewhere? JA is a slightly-built woman who doesnt weigh very much. How was she able to overpower TA, a hefty and rather large male, and if he was killed elsewhere, other than in the shower, how was she physically able to drag his body back to the shower cubicle? I understand that adrenaline can give a person added strength, but I can’t imagine it was enough for Jodi to have carried this out single-handedly.

    Another thing that puzzles me is that witnesses state that as soon as they entered the house they noticed a strong, foul odour. How come TA’s housemates who were in the house didn’t notice it? They also didn’t notice he hadn’t been seen for a few days? Something very odd about that.

    • Jenni, according to the timeline, and as shown in the time-stamp on the photographs, Travis’ death occurred simultaneously and immediately following Jodi taking photos of him showering. The shower photos were apparently taken first and the others (apparently accidentally taken during the traumatic event) were supposedly taken directly following within a minute (or something like that) of the last “Travis showering” photograph being taken…according to them, she must have shot him in the shower (considering they all seem to believe he was shot first and then stabbed). The times stamped on each of the photographs shows the order in which the photographs were taken.

      If they are accurate in their thinking, I too still wonder how she could have dragged Travis so far (being “dead” weight)??

      Now to answer your question…following along the lines of their photo time-stamp belief I just shared, they also claim he somehow made it from the bathroom down a hallway and back again? (I think this is what I recall seeing on a video post); they believe his throat injury occurred in this hallway where they showed a huge puddle of blood. They apparently also believe she dragged him back into the bathroom from that location, where she stuffed him into the shower.

      I agree it must have been very difficult for someone of her stature to drag someone of his size the length of the hallway and into the bathroom. Let alone her having to get his body up over the edge of the lip of the shower floor. I noticed that in the photographs that were shown, and it seems like she would have to at least do some lifting in order to get him up over the shower entry ledge…it’s not flush with the floor. If not, I can’t see her having the ability to do that. That remains a mystery I guess until the day Jodi gives the court a full explanation of what happened during Travis’ last moments.

      I read someplace that Travis’ friends believed he was gone to Cancun already. According to testimony, he was heading to Cancun with the “new girl”. As for their being in the house and not smelling the odor of decomposition, I can’t figure it out either, unless they weren’t home for a few days and had just arrived themselves. Apparently a friend of Travis’ who was to have joined Travis and his girl in Cancun, called a roommate of Travis to inquire where Travis was as he had not arrived. Apparently that triggered a series of calls to Travis’ cell phone and home phone from what I read, so maybe that explains the roommates not smelling the odor. (They may not have been home for a few days, I don’t recall reading anything else that could explain it).

      I myself have wondered about the husband of the girl Travis was having an affair with. I recall Jodi claiming he was having an affair with a married (I believe she stated Mormon..) woman. I haven’t read much on that, but if I am mistaken I stand corrected. Was this the same girl who was to accompany him to Cancun? If so, what I wonder about is why she wasn’t contacting Travis’ roommates or their traveling companions to notify someone Travis never showed up to pick her up…or meet up at the airport or whatever their plans were. You would think if she was going with Travis and he didn’t show, anyone in that position would try to find out why?? This is something I have not yet seen addressed either. Again, I may have just missed it, I can’t sit in front of the television night and day keeping up with all the details…

      Now what I am about to say did not come from me. I’m repeating what I read somewhere else online because I find it curious (as much as I hate when people do that). And I am not bringing it up because I am gossiping or dumb enough to believe it and It is not to state I am attempting to start a conspiracy theory of any kind, I just wonder how much truth there could be to it and whether the possibility has been explored. In the face-only photograph of Travis in the shower, the one where his face is dripping wet, the up-close picture…apparently it is believed this was taken just prior to his being shot (by the time stamp). I read that another poster enlarged that photo and two persons could clearly be seen in the reflection of Travis’ eyes. I know that sounds crazy and know nothing about photography. Therefore, I cannot either confirm or deny whether it would be possible or not to see something like persons in the reflection of an eye on a photo. Like I said, I find this curious. Does anyone have any photography experience who can either confirm or deny this is possible? I would think if it was possible, the possibility of someone having done this exists. It sure would be something, if this was a possibility. I suppose the experts have already examined that possibility though. Just curious. I can see where this would change the whole path of the trial should this actually be true.

      Your comment regarding how Jodi could have done this single-handedly has crossed my mind from time to time as well. My previous post explains how I believe a person who was abused could be in this position. It still stands that I believe every word she has said in her testimony. I support her fully. I don’t think she should receive death as a punishment. The whole death penalty topic makes me cringe, because there have historically been mistakes made in the verdicts. But, what I never said was I am not sure if I am 100% entirely convinced she did this alone, or??? Call me ignorant or whatever, I don’t care, but I always reserve my judgment upon knowing all the facts, and I too have questions in my mind how she could have done this alone.

      I welcome any information that would help understand these questions which still remain in my mind. This is a complex trial that leaves so many unknowns. I look forward to the remainder of the trial so I as well as everyone else out there can figure out for themselves how this could have happened.

      I still believe she is innocent due to my beliefs and first hand knowledge of domestic and abuse issues.

      • Mixedfeelings, I think I saw the photo somewhere you are talking about. I will have to look, but if I remember right I wasn’t too impressed, but maybe that is something that should be investigated further.

        I believe the prosecution has probably withheld some tiny piece of information regarding the crime scene. IF jodi wasn’t the one who actually did the killing it might be hard for her testimony to match the crime scene.

        I’m still leaning toward extreme mormons (sorry pyromie, my apologies to you, not everyone of a any religions are extremists). There are some interesting links regarding mormon hitmen and such.

        • Thanks BeeCee, you might be right about the prosecution. I was just reading other posts on this website and realized the reason I first came here..

          I feel so compelled towards this case. It stinks of abuse and that is something I am so passionate about. I originally came here to read everyone else’s opinions because my feelings are so strong about Jodi’s innocence. I guess I was just looking for some confirmation that I wasn’t totally out there in my thoughts.

          I have told a few people how I felt about this trial and about my support of Jodi. Everyone I have said this to says I am crazy to even think that way. I cannot discuss it with anyone aside from strangers on a website like this who share my beliefs. Like I have said over and over, I feel very strong about this and feel better about voicing it.

          The reason I came on here was so I could say what I needed to and give Jodi the support she deserves. Throughout the trial, I have had some pretty dreadful dreams after seeing some of the photographs and listening to some of the witnesses. Even after all that, I didn’t want to miss one day of the trial. It somehow helps to confirm my thinking on all this. Her story is more believable as we all get to know her thru her testimony.

          When I broke free of my abuser it was not by choice, rather by my injuries. At that point, he could no longer cover up for his behavior. Obviously he did it, right? For the record…obvious to me, but apparently not the court. There were a lot of people who didn’t believe what I said. I’m sure if I had died that day someone would have listened to his explanation with a bit more curiosity, yet with not even an explanation of what happened to me or how I could have gotten hurt so bad, he just banked on the disbelief of others that he would ever do anything to hurt me like that. Thank G** I wasn’t killed, but I wasn’t believed either. He was put on trial for what he did to me and he made a very convincing statement. That evil man who hurt me walked free after being judged not guilty. He was one person in reality, and another on the outside surface. That is just what I think of Travis.

          Travis obviously put on a good face in public, as proved by his insistence that no one knew about he and Jodi’s relationship. So secretive and manipulative in order to make himself look good without sparing the feelings of Jodi.. A large part of my insistence that Jodi is being truthful in claiming abuse comes from my knowing all about it and what the public can do to you after listening to the dozens of people who tell “their truth” as they saw it. It is not always right, and most times it is not. It is just how THEY saw it…true or not.

          Travis friends’, his family, the Mormon community, and now the public have all been manipulated by Travis into believing exactly what he wanted them to believe. The fact is, Jodi was probably the only person who truly knew the real Travis Alexander. Everyone else was his puppet. He manipulated everyone into believing he was the person who he wanted them to see. She got too close, discovered too much about him, and apparently something happened that day which reflected on HIS FEAR that he would be discovered and which likely started the entire chain of events.

          We all know Travis was a motivational speaker, a mentor to Mormons, he loved publicly stating his “virginity” (which incidentally, I do NOT believe for one second), he wrote of a better life, saving lots of money, becoming stronger, smarter, better, richer (or however he said it on his MySpace post for the New Year), and he was nothing but a huge lie. Travis Alexander was all about face and what others thought of him. He used lies and manipulation as his road to success and it worked for him for quite a while. I honestly believe had he not died that day, he would have continued his life of lies and eventually his new girl would have become his next “victim”.

          • yeah, NOT A VIRGIN, AND having an affair with married mormon, plus all the other TA “secrets”. he thought a lot of himself OR he was covering low esteem by those actions. not too many people live that way. worked for a while. sooner or later was gonna catch up with him.

    • I’ve noticed a lot of misconception in various article comments about the attack taking place entirely in the shower. People are saying “How could it be self-defense if Travis was innocently showering?” I blame the tabloid news media (HLN) for spreading misinformation.

  37. Thank you for your input, mixedfeelings. I’m not from the USA and where I live, there is not a large Mormon following at all. Those here are generally very low key, and have no influence in business at all. Having read all that I have on the power the Mormon church wields in the USA, particularly in certain states, and the type of “business” Travis was in (and to me it sounds more and more like a scam pyramid scheme dominated by Mormons), I wonder if TA’s murder was not committed by Jodi, but by another as payback for (possible) business skullduggery and/or his womanising.

    He definitely put on a show and fooled everyone into believing he was everything fine and noble that he was NOT. I do believe Jodi about TA’s inclination for sex with underage youngsters, male and female, and his apparent fixation with anal sex. I’m no prude, but he was one kinky speciman.

    • seemed he sorta used to getting his way for the most part or thinking how to get his way… hence, the ‘motivational speaker’. he saw he had the gift of BS. he had different personas for diff. people. he was the truest with jodi. imo.

  38. a couple things re posts above… i saw tv interview from a dr. who said TA was stab in heart FIRST, shot in head LAST. the shot to head did not bleed, thus it was after heart stopped. he also stated that the 1st stab would have killed him cos hit a major artery he would bleed out quickly. the rest was rage overkill, not needed for him to die. the throat slit was in between…
    gonna b tough for jodi explaining her ‘road trip actions’ and that timeline. best answer to me is “i was in a daze, a haze, etc.”
    2nd degree a victory imo. the judge and sentencing hearing may b tough but hopefully constrained to the 2nd degree which i her is 22yrs, -timeserved? = 17 more?

    • If the shot to the head was after that throat slit, that could be why it did not bleed like one would expect. He was put in the shower after he died so who is to say how much blood was where since he was rinsed off. They found a cup in the shower which was most likely used to rinse off certain areas. I think he might have been shot first and that did not do the job, he came after her and that is when the knife came into play. He has a piece of duct tape on his arm in the pic on the bed and the piece of duct tape was found. He used rope to tie Jodi up and most likely the knife was already there for that purpose of maybe it was there because he was doing his “ranger” fantasy. Crime of passion such as this in Arizona is manslaughter and with a weapon and first offense the guidelines are 7/10/21 years.

  39. Just as a matter of interest, here is what TA lists on his MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander):

    Interests:

    General

    Money Women and Power

    Heroes

    Gordon Hinckley, Harland Stonecipher, Killer Kane, Jeff Olsen, Travis Alexander, Darnell Self, and Adam (for getting this party started)

    ————————–
    I have a lot of years behind me, but I still don’t know a single person who lists THEMSELF as their own hero.

    Interesting too that “Killer Kane is a fictional character in the 1939 Buck Rogers serial film produced by Universal Studios. Kane is a gangster (or “super-racketeer”) who became the supreme dictator of Earth with the help of his criminal army.”

  40. Sorry if these extracts from TA’s MySpace page have been posted before, but I think they’re pretty interesting. I hadn’t yet noticed the next two items the last time I posted:

    Who I’d like to meet:
    HMMM well Jesus for starters. People who like to give high 5’s incessantly. I’d also like to meet Osama Bin Laden in all out no holds barr, winner take all cage fight. Christopher Walken would be fun to eat Lunch with. Really most people, well except for whores. They are a dime a dozen these days especially on myspace. So if your employment involves a webcam, I don’t see it going anywhere. Outside of that I’m good to go.

    About me:
    I’m a simple man really. Smart, successful smashing good looks, a real suiter. I love nature, helping the homeless, and cooking with my grandmother just to create memories. Do I work out you ask? Well I’d like to be modest, but can you say Tri-athelete, and if you can’t say that well simply say 16 1/2 inch biceps. If I look familiar you are probably an avid reader of GQ or Mens Health. Any way I enjoy going to Church, teaching Foreign Children English, and gourmet cooking. You might say to yourself yes but what are Travis’ Talents. Well if I must answer, Poetry, playing the Spanish Guitar (or what I like to call the strings of Love) and understanding more than just peoples voices, but understanding peoples hearts. Atleast thats what Maya Angelou said at the awards ceremony when I was nominated for my first Nobel Peace prize. If you’d like to know more. Don’t be shy, go ahead and drop Travis a line. Unless of course a common phrase you use is “Thanks for the add” in that case, you are wasting your life on my space, you should probably go do something more productive like read a book or build an ant farm. Ciao

    • What a Douche’! Did he really think people would think he was in GQ? Tri Athlete? biceps? this wasn’t really on his myspace was it?

    • I have a friend who is Mormon. I get the distinct impression that all men are gods in her mind; her sons, her husband, the elders, even men outside the church, even Mormon men who don’t follow the rules. And she says she is in the “inner circle”. You know, only some people get to attend church in the higher circle. I forget what they call it. I sense she would do anything for these men. The men are never wrong. She is obedient. If she plays by the rules, she gets rewarded is my impression. Obedience and loyalty to the “male” is survival. I wonder if T.A. was a member of the highest level of the church? If he was, then it’s likely his whole family is.

    • Haha, this is actually hilarious. I found this post linked in a web search and read a bit through the comments, then found this here. WOW!
      You could actually have respect for this douchebag and his humor when he was 100 % sarcastic about himself but I suspect he was actually serious most of the time or in worst case even all of the time. I’m going to have the quick fun to translate this Myspace bs that totally escapes reality INTO said reality:

      I’m a very simple-minded man really. With an IQ barely above 100 or even below, looking like a trash bag on a 100 % fat diet (but I don’t drink alcohol, coffee and tea and don’t smoke in a senseless effort and attempt to make up for that – and because I’m a follower of a cult that collects only the most extreme mor(m)ons and gullible/superstitious/hypocritical/dumb bigots out there to form their team to, well, how should I put it, to bring like-“minded” *cough* people together.
      We are so like minded we are all like zero minded – that forms a sense of unity and family, it’s lovely really. Physical mirrors and psychological/inner self-reflection are forbidden too in that cult, you will realize that about me in no time. And anyway, if they were not forbidden we would have to drink, but see above, alcohol is a no no. We are so fucked, like really.
      Furthermore I’m faking success, face-wise looking so absolutely average, some very mean people who don’t see my true inner grandeur and beauty that shines through the outside even say below average, starting to get bald, my skin also never sees the sun and therefore I’m literally looking like white trash, mind-/attitude-wise I am anyway to make that very clear, with a face expression on every pic you can find as if a chromosome was missing. It’s not! – it’s just looks like there is so you know!
      I’m Alexander the Great, Gaius Iulius Caesar, Aristoteles, Homer, Platon, Sokrates, Konfuzius, Leonardo da Vinci, Albert Einstein, Immanuel Kant, Martin Luther, Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla, Thomas Edison, Johann Sebastian Bach, Werner Heisenberg, Thomas de Aquin, René Descartes, Vincent van Gogh, Albrecht Dürer, Charles Darwin, Marie Curie, Friedrich the Great, Dschingis Khan, Thomas Edison, Max Planck, Johann Gutenberg, William Shakespeare, James Watt, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, Voltaire, Michelangelo, Napoleon Bonaparte, Mahatma Gandhi and Buddha, Mohammed and Jeeezus and all these creeps too! And Dagobert Duck! But I’m the real prophet among them losers.
      All in one fucking person, can you believe that? Dumb people can’t see it but I know I am! In fact I’m so great I have not enough space on this fucking Myspace to put it all here. You would freak out to see what-and who else I am too! I get the impression this Myspace bs is only for minor people with not such an outstanding grandeur like I have, for instance for people like that slut from California who actually thinks she can have such a great guy like me. I’m not made for that, I don’t do it below a 12 year old boy, well actually only below 12!

      I am also extremely uneducated, only read trash and esoteric bs books, never visited any meaningful school and don’t really know what literature actually means, but I guess people are talking about these books with speech bubbles – tried them, but seriously found them way too sophisticated for me. I stay with esoteric bs and and totally man made-up religious fraud books from the mor(m)ons.
      And I’m ignorant too but that is directly linked to my lack of any education, so I’m somewhat excused I guess, and I don’t care about nature at all because I have the stupid and ignorant idea that visiting 1000 places worldwide is a smart thing to do for everyone on this planet, all this while claiming to care for nature at the same time. You think you can already see how dumb, uneducated and ignorant I am by now, don’t you?
      Oh you really have no idea what an outstanding uneducated, ignorant and self-righteous dumbass I really am – yet, you will find out in no time though! Message me to discover that in a nutshell, or just send me a pussy pic if you are not any older than 12! Or even better a penis pic of your little brother. It’s so hot!
      I’m also interested in audio files containing 12 years and below aged girls having their first orgasm, boys probably even better!
      Enough of that, you might start to think I’m a sick fuck but I’m really not, actually I’m the nicest person on the planet, not to speak about the most important one, err, sorry, only important one. My dumb friends know because I told them and they are so submissive pitiful losers. I lie to all of them but they are just too stupid to realize it, and/or acknowledge it. I’m really cool, beautiful and handsome, very intelligent and all that stuff you know, you just can’t see it from the outside.
      I also work in an outstanding primitive worthless to society scam job/pyramid scheme business (I needed to because I refused to learn something meaningful, or let’s just face it, I’m just too stupid for college). BTW, I have a “career” opportunity for you right there! Call me, or send me these pics and audio files already mentioned above.
      Why I don’t work out, make significant amounts of sport and/or have no clue how to do that at all do you ask? Well, I like to be full of shit and even more of myself, which of course is basically the same as you might have guessed by now, not at all disturbed by reality, but can you say overweight/obese dwarf of white ugly chunky flesh, with fat and flabby arms with some tiny biceps below the flabby outer tissue? If I look familiar you are probably an avid follower of TV shows like “The Biggest Loser” and, you guessed it of course, I am the “prior pic”….and blah blah.

      I could go on and on but no time anymore but that was a fun thing to do lol. I guess the dumbass doesn’t even know 10 % of those people mentioned above.
      Have a nice day all.

      (remark of the author: 5’9” and 200-240 pounds, 240 in summer of 2007 according to Jodi in her testimony (I’m pretty sure about it) which is really very obese, 200 in June of 2008 after months of “trying” which is still pretty overweight and he still looks really flabby in the so-called Calvin Klein pics which I thought from the beginning even before I knew his body data rather come across like Weight Watchers’ ad pics – before using their service that is lol). I have no idea how Jodi EVER could get herself to fuck THAT, seriously. She played optical-wise like 3-4 leagues above him, and of course also character-wise which is of course even more important. She was really blindfolded – not only in her mind.

      (I didn’t have time to proofread so excuse me if I messed up somewhere).

  42. If you want to help Jodi then please pray for her! She murdered a person in the most horrific way and there is absolutely no excuse for that. But God is merciful and forgiving. He doesn’t count our sins against us. The only condition is that we repent of our sins. Those are the sins that are covered on the cross by the blood of Jesus Christ. Unrepentant sins are not covered. If Jodi repents, God will mend her broken heart with His love. Please don’t make excuses for what she did. Pray that she makes things right and asks the Lord to forgive her. Then she will have everlasting life in the glory of God.

  43. I was also in an abusive relationship and hopefully they have had or will have (have not watched the whole trial) to explain the mentality of a person in this situation. In the end of my relationship, my life was also threatened and I got to the point where I think I was psychotic. I woke up in the middle of the night thrashing and fighting him off – and he was not there. To this day, I don’t know what was real – maybe he was there. I am also like Jodi, always wanted to please and was “nice”. You cannot explain that psychosis to anyone who has not experienced it. That day that I was threatened, I went to work with bruises and my denial was so deep, I didn’t think anyone would see the bruises. Fortunately, they did and they made sure that I was able to get out of the situation and now 20+ years later, I am safe. (and yes, it is possible she didn’t have bruises. they are also very good at doing things so noone will see the bruises). I was a shell of a person and I don’t know what could have happened if someone didn’t get me out of that situation. I stuck around because I didn’t see a way out. I felt that no matter what I did, he could reach out and get me. There are times I still feel that way. I moved away and that is the only way I could have stayed safe from him. People are saying she gives abused women a bad name. Just because she didn’t live with him doesn’t mean she wasn’t under his control – I didn’t live with mine either, but he had total control over me and also dated other women at the same time. Same thing, the weird sex, goes along with it. In this trial, the mentality of an abused woman needs to be understood. I hope they can accomplish that. These men are really, really good at showing their wonderful side. It really is hard to believe they could be anything other than that, but they are. They are evil and I believe, JA did all the things she said he did and I can understand completely her mindset because I have been there. Sorry JA died, but he was so arrogant to think he could do anything to this young lady to ruin her, degrade her and suck the life right out of her. Didn’t he think that maybe one day should just might defend herself?

    • Innocent until proven guilty. What a sad people the “talking head’s are and will always be, have they no soul?”

      Jodi endured heinous crimes of the heart, mind, and soul … beyond heinous. And the media is doing the same to her.

      I breakdown and cry knowing Jodi still loves and protects Travis all the time.

      Please Jodi don’t betray yourself for Travis! Travis was and always will be an abuser, pedophile, and a Judas who I am sure the devil is pleased with.

      Hold your head high sweetie, remember the truth about yourself no matter how beautiful it is and your soul truly is beautiful. You are the salt of the earth … let no one take that away.

      Travis and his family are so clearly soulless, pitiful, with the wickedness of pure evil.

    • That was very interesting to read but I honestly can’t even remotely imagine this state of mind even if I try really hard. However, I’m glad you made it out of this situation.
      That the pedo bear was evil and a disgusting to the core human being is a no brainer for me, and pretty obvious, and I really hope the mor(m)ons also have a super VIP hell/”planet” and not just a super VIP heaven. 🙂

  45. Thank you Tony. One more thing …

    * The dark, smug, cocky, crude souls … DNA related to Travis call themselves “Christians”?

    The obese narrow faced pudgy thing that sits there smirking, rolling her eye’s, is sincerely one of the crudest. As her soul gets crustier by the day … why the crusty haired judge allows this in a court of law is in fact breaking it … straight up on national television. Give the frumpy fat one a security guard and take her to her trough.

    For the creepy guy that sits in the middle snicker mouthed … come out of the closet. His nature is so close to Travis … it seeps out of him as a misty evil creature and no doubt he is a creep.

    For the anorexia display’s pure jealousy of the beauty she will never be … evil is eating her from the inside out. No doubt she has had murder on her mind for Jodi from the very start. Feeding of the innocence of Jodi and her poor facial development only gets cruder with her facial antics.

    To the “judge” you are a disgrace to allow such in your courtroom … however you fit right in with the three. Are you related? Clearly you have the evil within to allow them to sit there and abuse Jodi and your hair is straw as if you’re a dead corpse, everything about this so called judge is dead … until her beloved Juan chit chats with her and she starts with her charming gazes at him.

    Ugh!

    “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ” ~ Gandhi

  46. …or as I have put it on YT, FB and other social media “He’s no loss for mankind”….and I somewhat also mentioned that in my letters to Jodi between the lines, not only because of the abuse stuff btw.
    I have no idea how she thinks about it since she spoke still so overthrilled (and in my eyes ignorant) about him in interviews and sometimes on the stand but I’m never shy with my opinion, especially not with people I like. 🙂

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