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Like I said in my earlier post today… if I’d bought a ticket for yesterday’s State circus performance, I’d be asking for a refund. To describe it as shambolic would be an understatement. I mean come on… there’s absolutely no way the jury are gonna convict Alyce LaViolette of M1, is there?
I had heard that the Taliban pedo-huggers were planning on planting a tree to celebrate the end of the trial – and to raise some more “funds” – but their plans came to an abrupt halt when they couldn’t find a 12 year old girl to tie to it… despite the best efforts of Chris Hughes.
Hopefully they’ll check back here on Sunday (even though they’ll not be able to post) when I re-post a picture especially for them. That’ll be to coincide with their fake praying stunt, duly orchestrated by Sourpuss, their shovel-wielding meth-head leader. The real irony of it is, had TA been black, they’d all be supporting Jodi. Yes or no?
So peeps… after 4 months & 56 action-packed trial days… 350 uploaded videos and over 100,000 posted comments, it’s finally come down to the last day of the trial and the defense closing arguments.
I’m sure it’s gonna be spectacular too. Jennifer Willmott & Kirk Nurmi (aka “The Nurminator”) have done a truly outstanding job for Team Jodi since day 1 of the trial. For that we are grateful. No doubt that’ll continue today as they obliterate all of the State’s hypothetical BS, hearsay, speculation, lies, deceit & wishful thinking once again – and dish out yet another overly-generous helping of rectal rippage on Kermit’s over-charged fairy-tale fiasco.
Ain’t that the truth.
Here’s the bottom line:
It doesn’t matter what anyone “knows” or what they “think” they know. It only matters what the State has proven beyond AND to the exclusion of all reasonable doubt. And so far, it has proven nothing.
Rest assured this website will remain here indefinitely. It’s not just here for the trial as some people thought. Far from it. This site is gonna be here for years to come.
By the way… as you may have noticed, my opinion on the outcome of this trial has never changed. Click here to read one of my first posts from last December and you’ll see exactly what I mean.
And let me tell you this right now — To everyone that has contributed & posted here… your dedication & support over the past 4+ months has been truly amazing. Without you, the site wouldn’t have been anywhere near as successful as it is right now… and long may that continue. That also goes for the admins & techs that work behind the scenes too. Collectively and individually – and without a shadow of a doubt – we are all TEAM JODI and we are all very fucking awesome.
Remember…
WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND JUST A FEW DAYS FROM NOW – WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS.
Never question it.
Never doubt it.
SJ
Team Jodi
PS. Don’t forget to check out the 7 new Jodi drawings I just added to the site.
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a comment 😉
I cannot wait for the defense’s closing.
And yay! Renee :D)
Your fast!
Congrats Renee!
congrats Renee
you deserve some delicate swiss chocolate hugs
hello to you all have a wonderful day in trial
lots of hugs
Yay Renee!!
I don’t want the prize tho *shudder
🙄
Front row seat to the Muppet show or a gopher.
Congrats regardless Renee’!
that was cheap shot, pushing me off the keyboard just so you can get first place lol
almost first
Am I third??????
Never mind….more like sixth:>)))))))
Congrats Renee
Nicole asked a question about tithe on the money the family is getting for fun stuff here are my thoughts.
No Skeletor (Tanisha) and her minions can’t pay tithe from that money it all goes to fighting He-Man and She-Ra (JW and KN) . I mean think about it where do you think all the pay off money is coming from. Because if anyone thinks there hasn’t been any money changing hands (weather its during or after the trial) They are crazy!! Hell who knows they might be saving it all to be on the first episode of Jaun’s new show on HLN, which will air immediately following the trail. Its called ” I shit on you head, say thanks for the hat” hosted by JM check your local listings!! Your thoughts
Krista, I am not sure I understand your post.
The money that is being collected for the family is NOT going to fighting the defense – the State of AZ’s taxpayers are footing that bill.
I went to Tanisha’s FB page about a week ago and found pictures of her family doing all kinds of fun stuff, like going to professional sporting events, racing mini cars, going bowling, etc. Now, all the pics and posts are hidden. Gee, I wonder why??
Now, I ask all of you – if you are having a problem paying your REGULAR BILLS, where does the money come from to go and do expensive, fun things?
From the backs of hardworking people who donated under the auspices of helping them with regular bills. Which, BTW, is being taken care of by the Mormon church.
This whole thing is a farce on the part of the family. AND, whether all of the family is Mormon or not, the church will still help them.
How do I know this? Good friend is Mormon and I live in Mormon country here in AZ. 🙂
Thank you Nicole 🙂
I was being a smart ass as in it could be going anywhere hence the He’man reference( besides the fact she really does look like skeletor.LOL). . I really think it goes to the hair and make up people HLN put them in contact with. Their hair and makeup have improved since KN mentioned HLN in the mistrial hearing so maybe HLN decided to glam up the key players they support, for a price of course. Maybe first interviews after the trial. Either way the TA family and HLN are working together look how many hits there facebook pages have had because of hln. look at all the the haters hln has created. I just wonder how much comes from private donors and how much comes from HNL and The Flores’ family. I’m just sayin.
Sorry, I misunderstood your post! 🙂
I want to know how much all the “friends” are getting paid to appear on HLN programs.
Also, it would be nice to see an “accounting” of the money that was donated. I don’t think that would be an unreasonable request from people who donated.
But, of course, anyone asking that question would be attacked! lol
I hear that LOL : )
curious about the tax implications and how the IRS would view the income received by the Alexanders
Someone said a while ago her skeleton face is from a past addiction to meth amphetamine.
Is the “Alyce LaViolette” reference a typo?
No… it was my attempt at sarcasm
SJ
Team Jodi
Kevin Horn, is that you?
No, Dr Horn is lining up to do an autopsy on Gloria Esteban, before rigamortis sets in Yes or no?
SJ
Team Jodi
LOLOLOL
Yes!!!!!
SJ will JM get another go today if KN takes the whole day?
I’m pretty sure today is the last day, literally. So it’ll be the defense, then Kermit’s summary, then Pickles with a summary of the jury instructions again.
SJ
Team Jodi
Okay. I’m ready to roll.
Good Morning Everyone! Hopefully switching computers will allow me to post. With all the site traffic this morning there must be tons of lurkers out there. To them I say hello to the the supporters and F*ck off to the haters. 🙂
Yeah, what Jaz said! 🙂
yeah!
What Jaz said!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF0Qve2sH3I
Just to get us pumped up
Thanks, Al
😎
Thanks Al good taste btw
JM yelled that the defendant lied. He said “she lied to your faces! She manipulated you..” He lied to them too. Should they completely disregard his case because he lied and manipulated the truth? He’s so stupid. He blatantly lied about testimony and evidence. Even his opening statement had lies. Do you remember in opening he claimed Jodi had the camera with a strap around her neck and meanwhile the camera strap wasn’t touched and was new? These are the little things. Imagine all the big lies!
I still can’t get over Dr. Horn’s “typographical error” lie, and all the lies about whether the gunshot or the stab came first, and the lies about whether or not TA would be incapacitated after a .25 caliber gunshot wound to the face or brain. I just can’t get over it.
Exactly! Just unbelievable.
As I said, the jury should completely and totally throw the prosecution’s case out on that basis alone.
Horn’s perjury was that bad–mistrial caliber, in fact.
Gee SJ, that kinda sounded like a goodbye 🙁 I am having a hard enough time coping with losing my daily interaction without you sounding like its already over……… Don’t leave me yet!
Yes, after today it will be goodbye… until tomorrow No worries.
We are here for the long haul.
TEAM JODI FOREVER!
SJ
Team Jodi
Good Morning all, I am looking forward to the defense closing. Nurmi will do an awesome job I’m certain.
Not annoying, nor with the weird whispering from Kermit, nor with with the dull repetitive stream of bullshit.
🙂
” nor with with the dull repetitive stream of bullshit.”
“Juanarrhea” I think is what someone’s daughter called it (was that your daughter Jennifer?)
Juanarrhea of the mouth.
SOMEONE give him and IMMODIUM now!
So, Juror # 8 is in the courtroom today.
Remind me Renee which one is #8?
Wild calls him the note-taker. I think he was the one released for health reasons?
Wonder why today and not yesterday? Pro-Jodi?
It wasnt health reasons, he was arrested for a DUI and would have been tried by the same department. he was pro Pros they say
So he is here today and not yesterday? Hmmm, Maybe he did believe Jodi
He was the one released most recently for the extreme DUI arrest (speculated).
have you seen Ms Willmot she just looks great wow
Crazy!!!! Why? OMG!!! Can those jurors just watch from home?
I wish they could be ordered to do that.
Prayers to Jodi and her family and JW & KN. You’re right SJ the Defense Team has done an outstanding job and I thank God they were there for Jodi. Let’s rock today!!!!!!!!!!
Wow SJ! Perfect words for this most epic day!
I’m so excited to see the “anal rippage” I can barely contain myself!!
And I think it quite fitting to get this party started with a big FUCK YOU to the haters!
GO TEAM JODI!!!!
I am in!
HATERS: I KNOW YOU ARE LURKING! SO FUCK YOU!!! ❗
Well said Kmiller!!!
Well said Kmiller!
Bring on the rippage!!!
>>> GO TEAM JODI!!!!
SJ
Team Jodi
I swear to God, when SJ responds to one of my posts it takes me back to 6th grade when I got fan mail response from NKOTB!!! (New Kids On the Block).
LOL!! My Hero!!
I know exactly what you mean!
LOL
So, how long do you all think juror deliberations will take?
Depends on how much HLN bullshit they “did not” watch
i think long deliberations will be good for Jodi
me too.
Yes, if they come back with a quick verdict that’s probably not a good sign.
unless they all agree kermit had juanarrhea of the mouth and had no case…
that’s possible , remember C.A. but there is a lot more to talk about in this case
Hopefully they see past all that nonsense, I fear though that too many had outside influence.
You never know…Casey’s jury was back in 10 hours with a not guilty verdict. I want to say that OJ’s jury deliberated for an even shorter time than that. Scott Petersen’s was out for quite a while and they came back with a guilty.
My guess- and it’s just a guess, and anyone hater or not who says he can predict with accuracy is deluding himself- is that it will be at least 5 full days. The Travestites are expecting a verdict on Monday. I hope they will be holding their breath!
I will be on pins and needles the whole time.
Come what may, I’m geared up for Cinco De Mayo this weekend!!!
I’ve always wondered what the media reaction would have been if Jodi wore a big bonnet and long dress.
I agree, the reaction has been indicative of the Salem witch trials
I’m having trouble posting..even on the new page.
Me too. It works about every 2nd time.
Seriously, reboot.
I was locked out for an hour yesterday. Yes, I hyperventilated when all I was left with was haters sites.
Rebooted and all was well.
I did re-boot. I think it’s just busy. Gotta be patient and keep them short, just in case.
“I hyperventilated ”
yeah, I get that!
One day I was getting a white screen…and I thought…Oh No!!! What did I do? Did I get banned or something??? Not that I have every done anything worthy of banning…but hey! and I somewhat freaked out just a little.
Renee (HRS),
The other day I was locked out…or the page wouldn’t even appear, just a blank white page and I was beside myself…I hadn’t realized how much I need you all. I felt lost! It was over an hour before the page responded. It was horrible.
I know….. it makes a person so lost and scared to not be able to converse with real human beings with critical thinking skills…
Dang I wrote an excellent post, said I timed out. Well JM you timed out too. Go Team Jodi
if you hit retry it actually usually works…
I had that happen a couple of times this morning. Just hit the Browsers back button your post should still be there and try again or to be sure you don’t lose your post, copy it so you can paste it if need be. 🙂
Go to where you wrote your reply and it will still be there for you to try it again.
Quoted from above, SJ says, “We are all TEAM JODI and we are all fucking awesome”
Now THIS is the way to start the day! 🙂
*\ 😆 /* Lets get ready to ROCK THIS JOINT!!!!
Hello friends!
I agree! 🙂
♦ ♦ ♦ YES!!!! ♦ ♦ ♦
I hope Nurmi rocks it today in his coolest pair of socks yet !!
Bystander… I have NO doubt that Mr. Nurmi has on POWER socks…to go with a POWER tie and a POWER shirt! He is the MAN 🙂
I love watching him, that dude is soooo chill! Not a fucking rambling asshole like his colleague
Canada Jodie, I won’t have to turn my headphones off…until JM gets back up. I am psyched for today!
I hear ya lov!! 🙂
Willmott just passed me in the hall in an amazing salmon outfit! Nurmi was in gray and lavender/salmon suit.
^^^ from Wild
I can’t wait to lay eyes on Jennifer. I’m totally smitten with that woman!
Me too 😉
Gray and lavender. Very nice!! 🙂
Me three! I have a total girl crush on her! lol!!
OMG – they are saying that DUI juror is in the courtroom today !!
Sitting behind the Aria family, I think is what they said.
I heard he is pro prosecution. He was the extreme DUI offender. If he is pro prosecution, I hope he reeks of alcohol and has to be thrown out of the courtroom. Or that he falls over in his chair or something. LOL
Yea, they’re showing him live now in the courtroom.
I saw him. His face is all red.
Oh!! He just took a drink out of a bottle!!! LOL
I notice that the sarcastic jury comments diminished once jurors 5 and 8 left. I don’t think 11 was very invested either way.
Hello fellow “fucking awesome” family members…..
Let’s blow the roof off this joint!!!!!!
HELLO JANEEN! YES! Let’s DO IT!
LETS!!!!
😀
Yes, I really want to see you ladies turn into CAVEWOMEN!!!!lol
Woo HOO!!
Potty break- Check
Cigarette- Check
Triple chocolate brownies (THC free BOOOO)- Check
Lets get ready to RUMBLE!!!
come on over, and I will make you some brownies worth eating 😉
I’m HERE!!!! We are going to DO IT!!!!
It’s crazy how many people are posting today. I wonder how many people visit this site… Messages will probably slow down when defense does the closing. This is crazy!
We’re on
we are live !!
Here we go!!!!!
Where’s Jodi’s mom????
SJ,
WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!
Hello ”fucking awesome” fellow supporters!!
Angel Jodi looks beautiful in her black outfit!
Hello friend…………………
I think Jodi’s sister is here today.
Jodi looks GREAT today!
She looks beautiful 🙂
YES!!!!! Get ready everyone, it’s about to get EPIC!!!!
Its about to get REAL in this BITCH!!!
Lol! My Gangster side is in full throttle! Where you at LC!!!???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BxOhTUvb7c
Wilmont, Nurmi – I have faith in you !
have you seen Ms Willmot she just looks great wow
Jodi looks amazing
Is juror#8 the one in the blue shirt?
yes
I believe so…
I think so, the one with his head shaved…
They say he’s pro pros. I saw him taking a drink out of a bottle!! I hope he falls off his chair drunk and has to be taken out of the courtroom!! LOL
#8 was the sick one, this one had the DUI
Does JVM have enough makeup on….geeeeesh!!!!
lol
Interesting that Juror 8 is in the courtroom for the DEFENSE closing arguments.
I wonder why that is…
Heard he got a dwi before he got let go
Hope he wasnt pro-defense and we lost him
Which one is he?????
i wonder if he was pro-defense. If so it wouldn’t surprise me if JM had something to do with his removal.
(((((((((maria)))))))))))
(((((((((((((((((hugging you Janeen))))))))))))))))))))))
Jodi looks amazing
I guess the split screen is showing Jodi on the left looking hot and Juror 8 on the right. Yes? No?
Go Nurmi!!!
Oh, wow………great opening
Jennifer is looking so fine! MMMMMmmmmmmmmm
Now to the situation at hand.
😉
Hi friends! !! Nurmi LOOKS gooooooood! GO NURMI! GO TEAM JODI★
go nurmi go!!!
Jodi looks very pretty.
HAA HAA HAA! HLN is saying that alnight last night on their facebook page evryone wassaying how bad jaun did. he was to sarcastic and hard to follow and then the hosts all agreed. after THE HOURS of them saying how ” wonderful” JM did. I just thought you all should know! I thought it was great that even HLN facebook haters even saw he SUCKED!! maybe they are coming here and getting educated?
Thanks Krista. I have wondered, and I can’t bear to see for myself. Plus the mesh sling ads gross me out.
JUST A TECHNICAL HINT FOR ALL OF YOU.
If you have both Firefox (mozilla) and IE browsers, AND you have Windows 7, you can open up the live trial in one browser, and then hold the Windows button down at the same time as the left arrow key. Then, pull up this site in a different browser, and hold the Windows button down at the same time as the right arrow.
Viola! You have both sites up side by side! 🙂
I don’t think she was dragging him in that photo.
Me either.
Me either, and they say she has jeans and shoes yet they say it’s only a min or two…. so what did she get dressed, is that what they claim. None of their stories make sense
Those sisters look so stupid!!!
don’t ya like how TAs sisters bow their head as if on cue, not to” look” at the pictures Nurmi is putting up but still look-up with their eyes.
yea and onions in their bras again
And the objections start!! Anyone have an duct tape? Tape that little weasels mouth shut!
Right Frannie!!!
lol yea I was just thinking that
OMG……shut the hell up Juan!!!!!
Someone put a muzzle on the toad frog, PLEASE !
Are you FUCKING kidding me????? APROACH!!!!!??????????????
This cunt BITCH!!
I so fucking love you!!
LOLOLOLOL!!
You always say what’s in my mind!
You have f’n GOT to be kidding me.
I can’t believe that nut is objecting already. I’ll bet he makes objections through the whole thing. What a jerk.
Yup!
shut that man up he had his show
jm of course
A salad bar already? I think KN has an EXCELLENT point about how their verdict could be seen.
Yep. Remember how Casey’s jury was treated after the trial! I would be scared too!
Yes, this is a good point to start with!
that little rat bastard better not keep interupting with objections!
i knew it kermit will not let defense to continue without objecting
OMG Nurmi has me in tears already……
Me too!
me too…. 🙁
I thought it was just me. He is doing so well.
me too he is so brilliant I am speechless
praying he keeps it up until the end
KN stuff is wonderful!!!!!! So easy to put the pieces together!!!!!
shut kermit up!!!!
KN is trying for a hung jury….really smart
Go NURMI…….
Ha!! Snow white!!! LOL!!!
I feel like I’m in Church…
Why the HELL did he say he didn’t like Jodi???
Yeah. Why?
Just saying that you don’t have to “like” someone to be objective in rendering a verdict.
To show that if they don’t like her, that’s it okay, there are days when he doesn’t like her either….he’s telling the it’s normal to maybe some days not like her.
It also stops Kermit from trying any “Jodi snowed her lawyers!” bullshit.
That sounds reasonable.
he was just explaining how no one ever really likes anyone 100% of the time. that it should not be based on likability.
he didn’t say he NEVER liked her BTW.
🙂
And Jodi laughed, so we know he was being facetious. =)
Yes, the laugh tells me that she knew it was coming too.
Lmfao that was funny 9 out of 10 days
“9 days out of 10, I don’t even like Jodi Arais”?
Was this smart? Help me understand?
I am confused too! I would have NEVER said something like that.
Just a touch of humour..It’s not the end of the world.I think it was witty.It made Jodi smile 🙂
It was a joke to lighten the mood
Like he’s trying to sympathize with the jurors feelings of dislike, but warning them against prejudice. I don’t know, though …
I think he was just breaking the ice…..okay here we go!!
What???? He said that? I missed kt! Is this why martinez objected?
He is trying to tell the jury he is just like them. They may not like her but the facts are the facts.
KN doesnt like her but he will defend her because the facts are on her side.
Interesting that Jodi laughed at that remark…sounds like some inside joke that I hope Nurmi clarifies at some point.
Yeah thats what I thought . shouldn’t he be saying I don’t hate jodi arias . How can you hate someone for wanting to live? how can you hate some one for having to depefend themselves? What the shit nurms?
what the hell? maybe he is trying to give her a reason for appeal. ridiculous!
I think it was a joke. I imagine that laywers and clients argue a lot. Jose mentioned that he and Casey butted heads a few times.
Anyway, the judge said to disregard it so the jury can’t reflect on it either way.
I love that KN looks at TA family too when he talks as if he wants to drag them it to this and make them see the truth. Jaun NEVER looked at the family and Defiantly do not see him do at at the very beginning.
No felony…you go Nurmi!
I think Nurmi is bonding to jury…..
Wow! He even brought up sexual orientation of witnesses! They know the jury has watched or read about the trial! How else would they know AL is gay?! Then Martinez objects to Nurmi saying “9 out of 10 days I don’t lile jodi”.
*I* thought that was hilarious. I don’t think he meant it as anything more than tongue in cheek. 🙂
It WAS hilarious! He was making the point that you don’t have to like her, you can dislike her and find her not guilty! It was GENIUS, IMO!!!
Jodi loved it too. Such a cute smile, glad to see her do that for once!
GO NURMI!!!!!!!!!!
He wants the jurors that don’t like her to do the right thing anyway
Agreed. Because there WILL be some.
KN must’ve read my post here this morning about the gun and burglary theory by JM . My man! 🙂
…
no he isn’t.
I am offended at your needle comment.
Shit,Im having trouble accessing the site already!
Haters are you out there? Go fuck yourselves if you are!!
Hi maria <3
I had trouble yesterday too. I think it's a traffic issue but I don't know for sure.
Thanks MB… And <3 right back atcha !
I think him telling them the trial is not about FEAR is very good. They shouldn’t be afraid to stick to their convictions, despite how much Nancy Grace and the mob scream.
It’s NOT good that he said he didn’t like Jodi. There has been speculation from the haters that he did not like her.
This is not a joke – this is her life that is on the line!
I am glad he did. He was speaking to the ones who dont like her.
Plus, he doesnt like her, but this trial is not about likeability.
I think you got the point Renee
Of course he likes her! That’s why Jodi laughed! He was simply trying to reach out to any juror that may dislike Jodi or is influenced by the lynch mentality.He tried to make clear that feelings dont have anything to do with evidence and facts!
That’s what I got out of this too.
I totally agree with him. Liking someone isn’t the issue, the facts are.
They’re not friends. She’s his client. I think he was joking though; Jodi smiled.
It’ll be OK……He knows they’re some Mormons on the jury and he wants them to feel morally responsable to do the right thing,not make a choice just because they don’t like her..
We know there are Mormons on the jury?
I think it was too risky to say that. That Jodi laughed at the joke may reduce the harm–I hope.
Yes. I think Jodi laughing was great. It showed he didn’t really mean it.
Jose Baez said the same thing about Casey Anthony in his closing arguments. He said it over and over. You may not LIKE her, but that doesn’t mean she’s guilty.
Great start Nurmi! Go TEAM JODI!
Who are all the people in the front row blocking Jodi’s family from seeing? Ugh!
Jennifer Wilmott looks very nice today too. They all do.
The Purple suit looks great!! Nice choice of color.
good point on the .25 she coulda just grab it the day she left town
Yup, VERY TRUE!!! Iv always thought that. why the hell would she use a gun that the police KNEW has a police report! !!! DUHHHH
I hope he points out how common .25s are. That there are twice as many .25s in the U.S. than motorcycles. Thank you, Al.
That’s right Nurmi…..covert op..is .NONSENSE
Is everyone else’s feed having delays?
Mine is working fine…..AZCentral
Thanks!
Who’s gun did she use? Making the jury think already. Go Nurmi!!!
I am waiting for…..Ladies and Gentleman, I present the blue kerosene can……..
Oh, that would be awesome.
that would be great!
He is doing well! I like how he is pointing out that everything the state says is stupid.
I hope he brings up the fact that Priceline does not directly charge your credit card!!
I always look stuff up on price line then go straight to the site of whatsoever cheapest
I agree. Nurmi is kicking butt today. Love it! Go Team Jodi!
Jenny looks so tired.
Yes,poor Jennifer looks exhausted.
OMG! Nurmi is KILLING IT!!!
LOVE how he keeps calling it a “covert mission”. Shows the level of ridiculousness!!
I agree!
Loving him!!!!!
I am overwhelmed by his brilliance
And shows how Juan was the liar. Very sad prosecutor we have.
Well, here we are. This day has been long coming. Nurmi, you need to hit this out of the park today. No tricks. No stunners. No great debate. Just keep it simple and straight forward… “Where is the proof?”.
What I think they need to bring out today:
1) I think the defense needs to be 100% clear on what the law of “reasonable doubt is”. Not what Jm tried to say it is.
2) They need to draw a line between “possible” and “probable”, then put 2 sticks of dynamite on that line and blow a grand canyon sized hole between these two ideas. Possible= Reasonable doubt.
3) They need to let the jury know that Jm is manipulating the facts, the witnesses and the jury. They should ask the jury to use their own eyes and ears. Is JM “incapable” of talking like a human, or is he manipulating the trial? Well, they need to only look at his close yesterday afternoon to compare it to the demeanor of the trial JM had. He didn’t yell at the jurors, he kept calm, he was polite to them….Yet he was a total ass to witnesses. this shows his trickery. He is capable of talking, he chose to yell. He is capable of making a clear thought, yet he chose to talk in circles with the witnesses. He then tried to use the tricked up testimony as “what the witness SAID” rather than what the witness truly thought. THIS IS HUGE for the jury to consider, if they are pro pros at this time. it allows them a justification to change their mind. (people need justification, an “out”) Give them this “out”.
4) I would love to see the defense say something along the lines of:
“throw out everything you have heard, that COULD be a lie. Throw out ALL of Jodi’s testimony, throw out all of Dr. S’s testimony, ALV’s, DR. D..all of it. According to the PROSECUTOR they could have all been lying. So, throw it out. Throw out Flores testimony, as HE told you he lied. (but didn’t mean to…) Fine. Now, what are we left with? That’s the proof. Jury, I ask you….what ARE we left with? Nothing. There is NO PROOF. We are left with nothing. We have a body and pictures, that show someone died, but no one has given a story that has been proven. The state hasn’t proven their story. THEY say we have not proven our story…so there is no story to believe. We can’t tell by the pictures what really happened, we can guess. We can’t tell by the “liars” testimony, but we can guess. We can’t tell by the emails, we can guess. We can’t tell by the texts, we can guess. We can’t tell by the phone recordings, we can guess. The prosecutor is even ASKING YOU TO GUESS. His words for this are “no big stretch of the imagination”. He wants you to use your imagination…to guess. Even an educated guess is a guess. We don’t convict on guesses. That’s really what the law says, regardless of what the prosecutor told you yesterday. He can manipulate you into thinking his law is your law, but we don’t allow that in this court room. You will not hear the judge say that I am wrong, when I wrap up, because this IS the law. No guessing. No informed guessing. No educated guessing. No “imagination” even if it includes lions, tigers, gophers, reflections of dogs, snow white and the seven dwarfs, bloody rainbows or even herds of wildebeasts.
5) Wrap up… “ We are not asking you to find Jodi innocent. Jodi is not asking you to find her innocent. The law is telling you that unless you have proof you must find her not guilty. This is the law, and we have no proof, just 4 months of guesses. “
Oh,Sirlips 5) gave me the chills.
AMAZING!!!
Objection! Your Honor Kermit is annoying the fuck out of me and trying to hack Nurmi’s closing,
can we put a muzzle on the chihuahua?
Dirty Sanchez, “Objection, he’s making me look the Knob slob I am”!!
I hope nobody minds if I post this once more. I just want to see just how many points Nurmi hits on. (Plus I expect he has a few more.)
While the State is trying to convince the jury that Jodi’s story doesn’t make sense, in reality, her story makes much more sense than the State’s. Here’s what the prosecution would have us believe:
That a woman of above average intelligence decided to drive 1000 miles to kill her lover and that the premeditated plan she came up with is as follows:
1. Steal the murder weapon from grandparents’ house – just one week before the killing. (Surely no one will ever be able to make the connection.)
2. Rent a car 90 miles away from home to avoid detection (but don’t forget to attract attention by quibbling over the color.)
3. Drive down to Darryl’s house near Monterey and borrow gas cans so as to disguise travel route (rather than just buying cans along the way with cash because of course we can totally trust that Darryl will never mention the gas cans when the police inevitably come knocking on his door since the police will obviously be investigating all of Travis’ friends, including – and perhaps especially – me.)
4. Drive over to Mesa and arrive at Travis’ around 4:00 am. (Note to self: Must find out when roommates might be home or could possibly come home.)
5. Don’t shoot him immediately and quickly beat it out of town so as to avoid being seen or arriving suspiciously late at Ryan’s in Utah, who will, by then, be expecting me in approximately five hours. (Instead sleep the night with Travis and have sex with him so that my presence will be thoroughly imprinted all over the scene.)
6. And be sure not to shoot him in the middle of the night while he’s sleeping. Instead wait until he’s fully awake and conscious (so that, in the name of all fairness, he can have an equal chance of killing me instead.)
7. Before killing him, have him take photos of me – with time stamps. (Just need to be sure to throw the camera in the washing machine before I leave – rather than disposing of it along the way with the gun.)
8. Do not drive directly to Utah up Highway 17 (even though already running quite late at this point) but rather make a detour over to Hoover Dam (maybe to take in the sights).
9. And somewhere between Kingman, Arizona and Hoover Dam be sure to call several people on cell phone (so that there’s a clear record of my travels north out of Arizona – in spite of the reason for getting the gas cans.)
He’s working on it………..!!
I still love this post!!
Mr. Columbo! LOL
Oh. I thought he was referring to Detective Flores.
me too lol I was surprised the dwarf had not objected
Columbo LOLO
When you get a hotel on priceline, you pay for the hotel when you check in and on the receipt it shows the name of hotel not priceline
When ever he say Columbo I think of that show from the 90’S!! Anyone else. at first i thought he was being asmart ass then i was like oh yeah the car guy. lol
I remember and yes it’s funny as hell because it’s a dig at shithead lol
Columbo was a detective series
HE JUST HAS TO OPEN HIS MOUTH….what a fool Kermit is!!!!
covert hahaha this is great!!
I noticed that Nurmi called the grandfather’s gun a 22.
Samantha needs to get the fuck out of that court room NOW 🙄
She is despicable
She is so immature
He is ROCKING this!!
YES HE IS!!!!!!!!!!
What is it with Hillary’s weird eyes going from left to right and back??
Gas Cans…here we go
Yawning siblings, sorry you’re bored while justice is being served.
leave the damn court room
Yeah that’s fine . We yawn everytime we see them cry. Hell we yawn everytime we see them. But will they be yawning when we get not guilty ( meaning anything other then M1)!! Let see if those nasty bitches are yawning then? because we’ll have jodi and they’ll have Jaun.
Knurmi is grand slam today. So far it makes Kermits case look like the fairy tale it is!!!
Exactly. That’s because Nurmi uses facts and Martinez uses stories. lol
Actually Martinez uses Fairytales lol!!
The Nurminator Rules!
Go Nurmi. Why deposit money if your going to murder someone
exactly!!!!and why ‘add” witnesses on your way to premed murder??
Yippee! I can post! Thanks, SJ!!!
yay!
I wondered where you were!!!
Yeah, that was sucky. But, yay, indeed!
Welcome back Basse!!
I was wondering where you were at!!!
Thanks! It was brutal; I read all your posts on here yesterday, but could not comment! Frustrating!
welcome back (((((((( hugs)))))))))
btw how did you come up with the name Basse Krokke?
I can’t believe myself… I just stuck my finger up at the screen when the camera focused in on samantha (while she rolled her eyes and yawned) …like she could SEE me! I mean it was a passionate, meaningful, motion I made…OMG, …well I hope she FELT it! There WAS a LOT of ENERGY behind it 😆
I wish they’d put a damn bag over frickin head !
haha, I do that to Nancy Grace ALL the time, I try every once in awhile to listen but usually end of givin her the bird instead haha
I saw it 🙂 an eerie fly flew right into the mouth
😉 viri….. hopefully the fly will lay eggs behind here eyeballs and the maggots will perform their eerie magic! …no more eye rolling 🙄 for YOU samantha!
*her eyeballs…not “here” eyeballs… oops
I am SO impressed with KN right now! He is making the state’s case look stupid because he is saying what we have been all along.
WHY would Jodi leave a credit card trail if she was on this “covert” mission?
Who is the mouth breather sitting with the TA Family.
He was there yesterday too.
Yay!!! He said we’ll talk about shining the light of truth on some of the people involved in this trial later!!!! And he sounded REALLY mad!!! Yay!!! I love Nurmi!!!!
“It doesn’t make any sense”
Preach it, Nurmi!
WooHoo!! Light of truth on other people on trial!!
I can’t wait………
Just listening to that comment made me blissful! GO Nurmi!
Oh man, this is going get REAL good!
Oh WOW,he’s brilliant!!
Taking down the State’s BS one at a time!!
🙂 🙂
Oh Shit! Jodi DID say in her testimony that she returned the gas can to the same Walmart.
Said Starbucks was in the same parking lot and that she returned it – unless I missed something else.
I thought she did, too…..I’m hoping he reread the court transcripts and that I’m wrong
Jodi is grilling Kermit hard
Nurmi is about to shine the light of truth on JM’s Bullshit!! Cover your eyes! 😯
Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial 10s
“Set up the house of cards and knock it down and call her a liar” are the words Nurmi uses to describe the states tactics. #JodiArias
WHY is FLORES taking notes?
Jm gets to talk after kn
This is probably what he’s writing:
“oh shit! oh shit! Here comes the light of truth!”
Making himself useful for his buddy like the good bitch he is.
He’s playing tic tac toe with himself, because he can’t feel kermits penis right now!! Ha Ha
Probably some verses for his nasty daughter to sing about the disgusting TA!
LOL!!!!
He’s writing his resignation 😉
Nurmi is showing you what methodical is Kermit
Re Martinez and Flores and their united front in court:
“These guys are not doing much to promote tourism in Arizona… LOL” — Arbey Bill Conlon
LOL That would be my hubby! 🙂
Yep.
they most certainly are not!
In fact, I wanted to move there once…NOT ANYMORE!
I will NEVER go in that state.
LMAO!!!
“Not a lick of evidence on how much gas the ford focus holds”…. love it
🙂
Love that he mentioned how she made 3 purchases of gas. One tank, 2 gas cans!
bingo
ok, I am so happy with JW and KN!!!!
super! super! super!
Shit I thought Kermit had fallen asleep, then his frog head poped up.
Lol Glen. I was thinking the same thing.
LOLOL
No he’s still drunk from last night. And can ya blame him? I would have to get drunk to if my career was over in the morning. I’m just sayin!
Awe, I missed that!
He stresses on PROBABLY about the phone. Nurmi is great !!!!
KN is really going to town! He was much “slower” with Jodi. But, he is really clipping right along. Very methodical – unlike JM who was all over the place!
I know he was prancing around and waving his arms so much I thought he’d start doing the chicken dance.
He relied on a bunch of sexist, dehumanizing stuff too, just top off his general lack of coherence.
Then he started talking like he was telling a scary story at a campfire. Yeah, I guess his fallacious version of events is suitable for that – but certainly not in a court of law.
Hi MB!
Guess that’s why maybe Wild Abt Trial they keep referencing “chicken wings”??
Hi Introspective 🙂 LMAO chicken wings… I bet under those slacks he’s got chicken legs too.
And that’s about all I want to think about when discussing Martinez without pants. Everything else would be sad commentary. lol
Crap, now how am I supposed to eat my lunch??? 🙂
MB LOL 😆 THE CHICKEN DANCE! That is EXACTLY what I see…only to a really FAST beat…wish I was savvy with video editing, I would create a video… as soon as Mr. Nurmi finishes…
hahaha he so scared of her he’s taking naked pictures in bed!!!
“that is a new level of being scared”. hehehe
LOL So scared of her he’s taking naked pictures of her in his bed!! I love it!!
The haters say she was holding the gun on him making him take the pictures. Really. Can’t make this stuff up.
Never mind that photo with Travis sitting in the shower proved she wasn’t holding the gun or the knife while taking pictures.
OMG.
How stupid are they?
On one hand they’re saying how he’s a red blooded all American man and couldn’t help himself.
On the other, they’re pretending Jodi forced him to take pictures of her vagina.
Such bullshit. Even they can’t keep their own damn theories straight.
yeah, I have seen that…they are incredibly stupid.
At thie point in time I dont know if I have to feel amused or disgusted by their blindness and stupidity!
LOL!!!! A NEW level of being SCARED!!
ROFL! That is a new level of being scared!
If Nurmi isn’t showing the jury TONS of reasonable doubt already, they are just blind.
Common Sense. Life experience. That’s all you need to use.
do you think jenny gave jodi some make up or is jodi just that naturally beautiful? she looks gorgeous today!
Agree GORGEOUS!!
It doesn’t look to me like she is wearing makeup. I really like her hair like that and the shirt she is wearing too.
She is naturally stunning. Beautiful profile.
GO NURMI GO! He is blowing holes in Juan’s story all over the place!
nurmi is ramping up
New level of being scared! Love it!
this is so logical
I turned off JM yesterday after about 30 minutes.
I am absolutely RIVETED to KN right now! 🙂
Nicole..same here!
Nurmi is stellar!
All you have to do is look at JM’s deflated face
poor thing
KN is really playing to the “common sense” theory. I will be really surprised if the jury doesn’t acquit her.
Loving Nurmi………..
Jenny does NOT look well
🙁
Probably up all night writing the closing
No breakfast?
{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Jenny }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} is beautiful. Tired, yes.
GO Nurmi!!!!
Nurmi keeps saying, THAT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE. Im watching it with my 13 year old niece and she stated laughing and said, CUZ IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE! !!!! (she hasnt seen a day if the trial and listening to what Nurmi is saying and im filling her in a little) and SHE said, OH SHES GOING TO WALK!
Give her a HUMONGOUS ((((((((((((((((((((TEAM JODI))))))))))))))))))))))) from all of us!!!
Poor Jodi,how humiliating it must be for her to have the nude photos displayed for the world to see… 🙁
Sad face 🙁
I was just thinking that.
It’s abhorrent the haters have abuse that evidence for their own rapist fantasies. They are so sick.
Nurmi is methodically destroying every point the prostitute made! One by one he’s blowing them out of the water!
*prosecutor* Once again, I’m seeing no difference…they both screw people for money! ;P
He’s awesome
Jennifer doesn’t look well at all, she probably was up all night.
I wonder if there have been anymore threats against her life? That has to be taking it’s toll on her for sure.
LOL let’s back up that ford focus again
LOl! lets back up that Ford Focus!
Let’s focus on the Focus.
I agree JW looks EXHAUSTED – but she is STILL much more attractive and classy than any of the MUNSTERS COULD POSSIBLY HOPE TO BE….!
Oh yeah, 100%, she’s still my girl crush, no matter how much sleep she’s gotten 🙂
Jenny is my hero, along with KN, ALV, Drs G & S. She’s beautiful.
I am surprised JW, Jodi and Nurmi are not fainting
from exhaustion from JM’s Mr Toad’s Wild Ride on Crack
closing argument yesterday
god knows I caught 10 mins of it and felt Vertigo and Dizziness
kicking in…
Thank god for NURMI today!!!!!!!
Hi, all!
HEY-O
Hi back atchya!! Well come to the party . Sorry its BYOB though!! Or vodka whhich ever you choose to celebrate with!! This is great!!
welcome i mean!! HAA HAA HAA. maybe its to early for vodka!! LOL
I love you Nurmi!!
hitting it out of the park!!
SJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ….
Put up the fucking gates so the terrorists stay the fuck out of here!!!!
No worries. 99.5% of the haters are blocked. The rest can see the site but cannot comment.
Jeez… it must be sooooooo frustrating for those poor motherfuckers
SJ
Team Jodi
LOL!! @SJ!!
HA!!!!!!
Must be. haha!!!
Janeen, whose being a troll??
Nobody in particular TODAY….I’m just having MAJOR computer problems today – and am constantly being bounced out…..never happened before….I have a brand new computer right out of the box….
I had enough of the trolls yesterday with their threats….
Thank you for asking!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL
Oooh ok!! LOL
Thanks for letting me know 🙂
This shit is MASTERFUL.
I forgot to ask “PLEASE”……… LOL LOL
If there was a moment in time, this would be it! KN
EXACTLY!!
Who is that edgy looking young man sitting behind the sisters? Anyone know?
nurmikins is doing goooood today! he reminds me of johnnie cochran.
Nurmi is saying what all of us have been thinking for months. Nice job Nurmi.
Nurmi is tearing the Prosecutions theory to pieces and EVERYONE knows it.
Note to silver haired old fox falling asleep in background behind
Jennifer:
Wake the fuck up mister 🙂
kthx
LMAOOOOO ^5 JOSH!!!!!! LOL LOL
Hi
Sorry that I’m in the middle of a comment, but I couldn’t post for a while. It was so scary 🙁
Some haters and some encouragers too for Nurmi, today on WAT…
Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial 3m
“He is so scared of her he is taking naked pictures of her in his bed, that’s a new level of scared” Nurmi explains. #JodiArias
10:08 AM – 3 May 13 · Details
Sandy Thomas Sandy Thomas @sandrareat 2m
@WildAboutTrial OMG! He is craaaaazy!
Robert Phillips Robert Phillips @rewp56 2m
@WildAboutTrial he wants pics of her deadly weapon. #wildabouttrial #JodiArias
dixiegirl1022 dixiegirl1022 @dixiegirl1022 2m
@WildAboutTrial what’s that saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer #JodiaArias
godblessusa godblessusa @tallicherie 2m
@WildAboutTrial go nurmi#Nurmi #jodiairis
10:09 AM – 3 May 13 · Details
Sarah Gray Sarah Gray @keegerava 1m
@WildAboutTrial he looks like a fat talking grape, ugh, can’t watch this troll much longer…#wildabouttrial
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JODI!
DO YOU SMELL THAT???
IT IS THE SWEET SMELL OF FREEDOM!!! 😀
FRRRREEEEEEEEEE as a bird! She’ll be able to go WILD about painting, writing and everything else.
YESSSS!!!!!
I think KN will go down as having one of the BEST closings EVER!!
Sweet Baby Jesus!! Nurmi is KICKING ASS!!
This is NO CONTEST!!
You got that right!!!
BREAK!!!!!!! GO KN!!!!
They are breaking already??? Didn’t Juan go longer before a fucking break??
I’m kind of glad they are at recess because I have to drive to work now. Hopefully I won’t miss much.
I will be able to tune back in once I get to work. I’m loving Nurmi’s speech so far!
15 Minute recess! Can go pee!
why does the Judge look so pissed?
She looks pissed because her “prince charming” (OMG did I said that???) is loosing big time. I almost feel sorry for him 🙂
Judge looks pissed because her and JM’s secret
covert mission looks like it’s being derailed by
Nurmi’s freaking awesome closing testimony
Because all of her manipulation during this trail is not going to stop Jodi from walking away from there. Her and Jaun were a tight team but truth justice and liberty are tighter.
KN deserves applauded . Kirk and Jen are an amazing team.
Dumb question – why does counsel always have to approach after she says there is a break?
Nurmi.is.awesome.
Funny how HLN isn’t so bubbly today. NO flashes to the street . No JVM acting like an attention whore. Nothing. its like they are like oh shit we THOUGHT we were right. This might not have gone down like we thought. I love it! I also saw this reaction after the first day of Dr. S and ALV testimony!! AHHHHHHH I love you KN!!
Oh they are still saying all kinds of stuff and they have an excuse for everything, ironic that Travis’s dog name is Napolean like Juan. I am watching the closing arguments on HLN so I can use my computer and it is same old crap that they always say. Trying to get out information for the jury to hear this week end. I think it is horrible that hln exists. Should be considered unconstitutional to have shows like them on tv. any trial they cover prevents from people getting a fair trial. Despise Nancy, JVM, Vinnie, Beth,and Dr. Drew with a passion.
Have had a hard time getting on this site, but watching KN on HLN~He’s on fire!!! the only thing I didn’t like tho was when he said he didn’t like Jodi…don’t know why he had to say that! But over all, great job and can’t wait until he gets into ME”s false testimony etc! GO TEAM JODI!! 😉
I’ll bet he said that to address many of the hater comments about how he always sits with his back to them and looks as if he is ‘somewhere else.’ In addition, it addresses all the talking heads who claim Jodi can hypnotize men from afar – such a seductress! (You know they’re jealous. lol) I would guess what Nurmi said is not really true, but who knows.
Thanks Cp..it just bothered me, but I guess he had to say it.. I loved it tho when he told the jurors not to be “afraid” and not to look at someones sexual preference!!!! He knows they have been listening and or watching to the media!!!
It even made Jodi smile.
Hello, Hello Beautiful People!
I have so much work to do that I JUST now came in (and have to leave in a couple minutes) and I was just in time for recess. 🙁 But from what I’m reading, Nurmi is on fire today and I’m happy to hear that. I can’t wait to catch up. Thanks for commenting, everyone, so at least i can get a sense of what is happening.
WOW WOW WOW!!! Any doubt I had is gone! She should walk….self defense!
Methodical, logical, step by step: not flinging shit everywhere to see what sticks. A gentleman.
Yes 🙂
OMG He is saying what all of us have said for 4 months. I love this boy ….
Too bad we have to put up with Kermit after this awesome defense 🙁
After Nurmi and JM’s initial closing, I think Kermie will fall flat!! all smoke and mirrors, conjecture, NO PREMED PROVEN!!!!!!
Mariana, I probably won’t bother to listen to JM…to me he’s a waste of time.
OH! and by the way, what does your gravatar say? I tried to read it but could only make out a few words.
I am so damn happy!!!
Go Nurmi!!!!!
Me too – He rocks!!!!!!!
“His back was turned to her, wouldn’t that be the time she would carry out the killing since she had planned it for so long”
Ex-Fucking-actly!!! That right there should get this whole damn delusional theory that she planned it thrown out!
Best point he made so far – and he’s made many excellent points.
LOL!! Exactly, I’m so impressed I thought WE had dissected this case to the fullest extent, hard to find something WE missed!
He is amazing! I am so very impressed!
Yesterday JM was confusing him self by being all over the place. Normi doing great job!!
Typo.. opps. see how quick I found that.. Guess I am smarter that the good dr. LOL
BBBWWWAAAHHHHHahhahaha! @ Crystal
A typo he missed just so happened to be the MOST CRUCIAL part of the report! Rat Bastard!
Doesn’t Travis’ brother (not the sneer-dude), look like Aldo Raine?
I always thought of Elvis.
HEY! Don’t insult the King! 😉
I know. Poor Elvis!!!
Thank God for Nurmi, yesterday really sucked, no matter how much we know it’s bullshit, it still sucked
How long of a recess?
15 minutes.
Ok time to chill the Champagne for the celebratory toast to Jodi and her Team! Nurmi is fantastic!!! Nobody in thier right mind will ever by the State’s story and he isn’t even half way through his closing!!
He’s doing a great job! Nurmi has that laconic demeanor that I believe is much more persuasive and likable compared to Martinez. Much respect and gratitude to Nurmi, Jennifer and their entire team for the tremendous effort they’ve put forth on behalf of Jodi.
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 1m
Prosecutor and Alexander’s sisters going back into chambers.
Öffnen
wth for???
Let’s hope they are asked to leave for their abhorrent behavior.
Maybe they are finally being told to quit with the theatrics.
Jaz…would figure…too little, too late…
He’s saying ‘oops shoulda had a v8’….
Maybe Jaun wants to consider a deal now? I mean when your losing your losing. lol
Yea, what for ??
Probably to cry that their case is being torn to pieces.
Passing out onions…
Nurmi is doing great. He’s going through the events chronologically and is nailing every inconsistency about the State’s case. AND he’s doing it in a respectful manner instead of shrieking and yelling.
Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial 1m
Valerie just called the defense team and #JodiArias back to chambers.
I always wonder when the state will wake up and decide to take a plea.
Can they even take one now? I don’t know about these things, but if they were to take one, the taxpayers should raise the roof on the money spent on this trial, when JM could have taken the plea way back when and saved everyone.
It will really damage C.A. Bill Montgomery’s political career.
It’s ultimately on him rather than JM.
They can take a plea anytime. If they think they will not get murder 1 they would cave for a lessor charge.
I would NOT take a plea at this point.
Good afternoon everyone! Nurmi is doing a wonderful job, but then again, I never doubted he would! I can’t believe the trial is almost over. I’ll miss you guys 🙁
Rachel, this site is not going anywhere 🙂 so no one has to miss anyone!
That’s true. Casey’s site is still up & going strong, and the verdict was 2 years ago.
SJ
Team Jodi
That’s reassuring! 🙂 Thank you, SJ, for this site and thank you to Renee and everyone else who makes the environment here so welcoming. I’m glad we could all come together to support Jodi 🙂
How come everyone is now agreeing with me!
I have always said she WILL be acquitted. No 2nd degree, nothing.
And the best is still to come.
So far we have been demolishing the non-existent prosecution case.
I’m interested as to how much detail KN will go into on the crime scene.
It should be an outright acquittal, especially after the blatant by ME Kevin Horn.
The prosecution has absolutely insulted the jury’s intelligence by trying to pull a fast one.
I wouldn’t care about photos, gas cans, or anything else if I were on that jury.
The ME’s findings are absolutely central to the case, and the perjury blew that totally apart.
“blatant perjury”
I’m starting to think HLN is pro-prosecution.
They have never hidden that Basse K.
Startiing??? Please tell me you’re just being sarcastic. lol
JK. I hate these bias a-holes.
me too!!!
When is the HLN Hezbollah NOT pro prosecution???
Is JW going to do any of the close or will it all be KN?
What the hell is with the family, JA, and the lawyers going back into chambers?
WHAT NOW???
Is Juan offering a plea?
Just looked up the possible bouquets we could send virtually or reality-ly to Jodi when she goes free…
wiki says: “The language of flowers, sometimes called floriography, was a Victorian-era means of communication in which various flowers and floral arrangements were used to send coded messages”
FREEDOM: Bird of Paradise, Water willow, Pansy
Interesting. Maybe someone could make a photo collage of those flowers?
Why is the family EVER allowed into chambers. It’s The State vs Jodi Alexander. They should have no say whatsoever.
AGREE.
Me too. I’ve had enough of the Alexander clan.
Sorry …Jodi Arias!!
Hullo all,
So they’re back from lunch but in chambers right now?
Greetings Vebe from Switzerland, I’m watching from Germany 🙂
Hullo Jester…………. have not gone to lunch. It is 10:50 there…just a morning 15 minute break.
Oh thanks Renee! Simple math is tough today… it’s been a long week?
It was a 15 minute break. They are now in chambers. Lunch won’t be for awhile.
Hope you and the rest of the Volk are well today in the Deutschland Jester!
lol, we’re freezing our butts off and need dry socks today!! :-p
Sounds nice to me.lol BTW, I’m a Germanophile!:-)
((((((((((((((((((((((greetings and hugs))))))))) to my almost neighbor
It is AMUSING to go to the hater FB page.
Let’s see…
1. They are convinced that Travis didn’t know Jodi was taking his picture. She took it through the shower door.
2. She didn’t shoot him when his back was turned because she wanted him to “know” what she was going to do to him.
3. Nothing that KN is saying makes “any sense” to them. REALLY???
4. She left during the 5 minute interval between pictures to go get the gun and knife, and then kill him.
I’m so glad I get to have comic relief this morning. Where do these people come from?
OR, as my dad would say, “Common sense isn’t very common.” 🙂
The thing to remember is that everthing on HLN is so nonsensical, it’s pretty unlikely any juror would be much affected by it.
That is what is known as “whistling past the grave yard”
They are stupid. The few times they weaseled their way through into the comments, I felt my IQ dropping. True story.
Me too. Seriously, I have not seen a stupider bunch of people–and I have seen all kinds of stupid in my day. 😆
And scarier still is that they roam free among us! 😯
I hope they’re not contagious.
ROFL you two!!!!! 😀
I know right. Doesn’t it bum ya out WE are the minority. : (
Wow. This site is a bitch to get anything done on now. The servers are overloaded.
The Alexander family needs to knock off the histrionics. It’s getting old and it’s distracting.
People can Hate Jodi and the Defense team all they want but they know in their heart and in their head that Nurmi is making all kinds of great points and it’s all based on common sense and the evidence and Nurmi’s honesty.
Martinez’s House of Cards is falling piece by piece.
I can’t wait until KN hands the JM his ass on a platter when he talks about WHO REALLY LIED in this trial! LOL
Yeah, he said he was going to get back to THAT!
Nurmi is doing a fantastic job! Bravo!!!!!
Is it too early for a celebratory beer? I could probably chug 2 during recess. 😯
Go for it Sil! I may join you
Woot! *burp* *hic* 😳
lol
As long as its Newcastle I’ll join in too.lol
I already started with the vodka earlier. Opps…….. sorry was i supposed to wait? LOL
Just kidding! it’s only 12 where i am! LOL
Even the Judge looks happy, in party mood!
If there is a time to cry for real, since grieving has seriously been over for years, nows the time tas family and friends need an emotional, rational human soul check. Kirk wasn’t being mean when he said he didn’t like Jodi 9 our of 10 days .. the most beautiful light smile came over Jodis face, it was awesome . . she got it. The jury has new life to consider, not meaning Jodis life . . that what KN is saying could be any of our lives from a humane point of view.
Here we go!
Back in session.
I am so riveted, nervous, excited, all at once..
lots of emotions today
It was nice to see Jodi smile
Of all the days today is the day I cant access the site ??? When all I feel is BLISS! Thank you Nurmi for all that you’ve cleared up so far!! And for destroying the pros’s ridiculous theory!!!
Jodi looks stunning today.
Argh! I can’t get any live feeds to work and will have to watch on HLN, which quickly infuriates me. I wanted today to be a victory lap. Are they all overloaded or is it on my end only?
Ms. Willmott’s eyes are puffy, I wonder if she was crying last night…just saying that because my eyes are puffy in the AM if I have cried the evening before. Either that or she didn’t sleep at all…
I have missed everything so far this morning but sounds like Nurmi is doing his usual outstanding job! Are we on break?
They just got back from a 15 min. break 🙂
Loved that SMIRK NURM! gotta love YOU!
Yes he’s so cute when he smirks!! 🙂
Dr. Horn = Lies….”We’ll get back to that”
brilliant.
♥ it!
Wow Nurmi looks sharp today!!!
Nurmi has the right tone – doing great. JM seems to be slumped in his seat, pouting.
The lady in the olive jacket is sitting next to Jodi today. In the chairs behind them, where olive jacket usually sits, do we know who all those people are?
I might be incorrect but the older man in the middle I have seen commenting. I think he works for the Arizona Republic.
I believe that is the mitigation specialist, whose expertise will be used if by some chance Jodi is convicted of murder 1.
i dont know but id like to bitch slap him if he doesnt wake the f up.
I’m sorry if this has already been asked.. when does the jury get to start deliberations? Do they have to wait until Monday?
I think Monday,yes.
That means you won’t have to worry about missing the verdict on the 4th and 5th!!!
That is correct,MB!Thank you for remembering it! You’re such a sweetheart.
Yes, they don’t delebrate on the weekeneds in AZ or sequester the jurors . They will come back on Monday. I have looked this up on nurmerous sites to make sure this was correct.
I hope they have a nice Cinco De Mayo, I know I sure will!!!lol
Is silver haired fox behind Jodi grandpa??
I LOVE Nurmi for clarifying the sexual assault! Thank You!!
Yes thank you thank you
I was trying to post the same message and “timed out”… I totally agree! So great!
Nurmi is destroying Kermet’s ‘strawman arguments’.
((((((((((((((((((((((((((Jodi)))))))))))))))))))))))))
OMG Nurmi has me crying…okay I am seriously in tears
re: sexual assualt, abuse..
Me too.
Me three.
me too…
me five…
Nurmi is doing an awesome job
Jodi getting emotional 🙁
Come on everyone lets give Jodi a big group hug 1,2,3 GO!!!
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Bam Crash! Did he slam his hands, or did someone fart a glass ampule?
Oh, Don’t cry, Jodi. This will all be over soon. I just want to give her a big hug and let her know we are ALL HERE in her corner.
Group hugs for Jodi!!
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((GROUP HUGS FOR JODI)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
((((((((((((((((GROUP HUGS FOR ANGEL JODI)))))))))))))))))))
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Jodi }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} think free free free, do not cry
((((HUG))))
(((((((((((((((((((((GROUP HUG FOR JODI)))))))))))))))))))))))))
Back again. People keep thinking work is more important than this.
How’s Nurmi doing.
He’s kicking A$$!!
AMAZING.
This closing argument will heal Jodi more than anything else.
♥ Thank you, Kirk.
so true, Renee.
Love Nurmi visuals, this will drive it home for the jury. They will have these images when they leave for the weekend going over everything in their minds.
I hope the dick head who accused Jodi of “fake crying” yesterday saw those tears…CLEARLY rolling down her cheek! I am crying with you, for you Jodi ((((hug)))
Well also her nose and eyes get visibly red.
No way does she fake cry.
Its okay for Jodi to cry. Tears are for the soul what soap and water are for the body!
So true Tony! Well said, as I weep with her
I’m sorry if this has already been asked but when does the jury get to start deliberating? Do they have to wait until Monday?
Monday, so they have a chance to check HLN
I wish there was a LIKE button.
I laughed at that. sadly I think you’re right.
Yes, they start on Monday.
Crap… my post posted twice.. someone answered above
I don’t know which Alexander is which, but the one with dark hair (not the really skinny one) looks drunk! And I loath how you can tell most people on their side are not even listening (including the reporters!) and then they’ll turn around and say how N was lying.
Are you talking about Samantha….the skinny one is Tanisha…
Oh, yeah, it’s not Tanisha so the other dark-haired one. Perhaps is Samantha. But when I have seen her today (and in the past), she has the same look that people who were drunk get (I used to be a bar tender through college). Even the eye-rolls, the weird mouth smirk, those look like someone who is drunk – not just sarcasm (imo).
yes!!TA had ‘tricked’ virginal mormon Deanna into sex,yes he KNEW how to do it and talk his way out of it being a sin!!
I just know when that Not Guilty verdict comes out all of you women here will shout out to the world, “I’M JODI ARIAS!!!!!!!”
That gave me chills because it could have been me. I might get a shirt like that made.
What in hell did I start here.lol
I shout it with whatever verdict.
It looks now like it is ‘ I AM JODI ARIAS, I AM INNOCENT AND I WON ! Down with Persecution !’
Good slogan 🙂
Kind of reminds of the movie Malcolm X!lol
requests are not going through
Has he mentioned anything about TA having SEX with his so-called stalker?
HE DID! He did a great comment ”that’s a new level of scared”
Or sth to that effect
*He MADE*
O…M….G…. Now I love him even more! 😀 Thanks, Maria! (Give Greece a mental hug for me lol)
(((((((((((((I am)))))))))))
Is that Travis’s penis I spy on the defense desk?
“She might have been right the first day when she said she wasn’t an expert”… love it
I think they should start deliberating today after closing arguments and keep going all weekend. I’m sorry but if I were a juror I would be so tempted to search the internet to see who’s version is true. I’m sure none of them will do that though!
I think the defense should speak again after Martinez.
Those HLN folks said during the last break that JM will come back after Nurmi finishes for the defense
Yep. Becasue the burdon of proof is on the prosecution to prove their case.
Martinez is not proving. He is lying.
Good analogy Kirk!!!!!
This is getting me pissed now. That bastard sure mistreated this young lady. No one, should be able to do that to another human being.
I don’t think any of us have any idea the extent of abuse he subjected her to. My heart is breaking for her, she suffered like most of us have…in Silence!
yes… silence
I agree…
Yes I so agree. <3
Is Martinez bored or defeated? Slumped to the side, head on hand.
he is resting for his finale
I have chills.
I see freedom for Jodi.
I’m way behind for some reason. Looks like my stream is running on a 15-20 minute delay. Anyone else seeing that?
HLN is broadcasting today with no commercials, and no pauses….they only stop when the seal is up or recess..
try clicking the “live” “button”
I can’t watch right now because my tablet is dead and with the site now requiring cookies or some crap I can’t change while I am on break at work.
sick and wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS YOU NURMI!!!
YES!!!! IT I S SICK!!!
BRILLIANT Nurmi………… drive it home……
I just got home so I have only seen about the last 15 minutes and I am super impressed with KN!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Kirk!!!!!!!!!
”That is sick and that is wrong…” hells yeah. I promote Nurmi to Pickles’ job.
HLN had a facebook sayin KN story is smoking mirrors. LOL WHAT YOU DUMB MOTHER F%^&$%#! its smoke and mirrors. GOD it your going to try to and be a smart ass get your facts straight.
They are so bias. All he is doing is tearing down the States theory brick by brick….
It’s okay, Krista, I know (from therapy) that liars often blame others for exactly what they are guilty of. It is an attempt to convince stupid people who already are swayed into their b.s.
Doesn’t HLN realize that they are siding with rapists and pedophiles?
IMO they have no business covering those stories since they are.
NURMI defines = IMPACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am impacted
I hope the jurors are impacted
this is powerful stuff!
Shut the HELL UP Juan!!!!!!
Nurmi is doing GREAT, I think!
HOLY SHIT!!
“Who says that!?” “That is sick”
love you Nurmi!
I have a granddaughter who is going to be 12, I don’t even want to think what I would do if anyone even thought of doing anything to her. Never mind her father, my son.
That’s just freaking SICK!!
So true!
And the haters at HLN keep trying to sweep this under the rug.
Let me just say I have an 11 year old soon to be 12 and what jodi did would look minor to what i would do if someone said that about her. And I tell you what It wouldn’t have been in the bathroom . I would do it in court if i had to. All Parents must be crazy if you talk to JM about this because i don’t know one parent who feels differently then me. And i talk about this with a bunch of people.
I hope JM is wearing Depends cos he must be crapping his pants!
Mr. Nurmi is WONDERFUL. He is on point today.
“Repulsive” That’s the word I’ve been looking for about denying abuse
Anyone notice that the camera hasn’t focused on the TA family since before break? Hmmmm (unless I missed it)
I saw it once. But there was no eye rolling just a weird smirk on Samantha’s face.
I think she’s drunk.
I prefer the camera focused on Jodi.
Today is the day HER story gets to be heard!!!! Today the TRUTH being heard!!
Yes Maria, I’m glad they are not focusing on the TA clan… I have to block my screen when they do it. They nauseate me.
God I hope the jury is feeling what I am.
The haters STILL stuck in, If TA was abusive, then why dud she keep going back! If they haven’t gotten it by this point, they’ll never get it!
They will never ADMIT it…
A hater told me once that ‘she loved his rough behavior so much she kept coming back because she could never find that good of sex anywhere else.’ How sick these people are!
I WANT TO KICK JM in the freakin nuts!! I makes me sick Judge dumb bitch has already sustained 3 objections FOR NOTHING! and KN didn’t get any . How many times do you think the judge and JM have F%^&$%? because they sure are up each others ass no pun intended well……… yeah maybe a little pun (wink) we are talking about JM
6 objections by jm .. 5 over ruled .. 1 sustained . . iow the judge isn’t fair
OMG Krista,
you’re exhibiting symptoms of unhealthy communication patterns!!
lol
lol ‘like’ 😀
LOL Honey if stating the obvious is wrong i don’t want to be right!!! I mean if you think about ALL of us have symptoms !! HOLY SHIT !! ITS AN EPIDEMIC!! LMFAO
I’ve always contended that we can account for JM’s behavior because in all probability there is a paddle in her office with his name on it, and under that robe she has a leather outfit like cat woman.
It’s too bad they can’t keep that shit out judicial proceedings. If Juan wants to be a bad boy he can do it on his own time.
lol. . ohhh sherry hurt me so bad . . who’s your daddy . . punish me for being such a bad boy . Now I get it as to why they’re so mean . . lil S&M thingy
Haaahaaaaa you see Nurmis face when talking about Dumbarte!! Lol
I love how Nurmi is mapping out Travis’ other aggressive traits.
The Nurminator is on it!!!!!!
Lol! Nostrils scripted testimony! Lol REALLY? Inappropriate communication pattern!!
Through it all she remains poised, gentle, fragile. She is a remarkable girl. Hang on Jodi..you’re doing great. It will be over soon.
that’s so disrespectful, sleeping in the fucking courtroom..UGH!
Who’s sleeping???????????
that old man behind jodi..id like to drop kick him..who the hell is that?
Oh geez, JM is taking notes. I hope we don’t have to listen to him for very long.
he started taking notes when Nurmi showed the picture of Travis’ penis picture that he sent to Jodi…
Go Nurmi!
why did silver hair fox come to court if he’s going to fall asleep
he’s so distracting
yo fellow, motel 6 is right down the street
kthx
maybe he has a medical condition…
no doubt!! hes pissing me off
Nurmi makes so much sense.
WHAT is Kermit whispering in Fauna’s ear and smirking about????
gotta go.. Fri is pick up grandkids from school day.. c u all later ~~~~
keep the faith
nurmi is fantastic!
Travis was a worse kind of liar. Jodi owns her lies. Travis lied to all of the people he knew. Pretended to be a nice guy. Acting like he was a Godly man. Baptizing her and then rushing home to fornicate with her.
Yes! Him calling her a stalker was to cover his big fat lying ass. It makes me so mad that so many believe him.
Yeah and when jodi was trying to leave him and he started to worry she would expose him because he treated her so shity he tried to kill her. he just under estimated Jodi . She might have loved him more then what she thought of herself (because he beat her down emotionally) but she didn’t love him more then LIFE. And I think he was so egotistical he actually thought she did. You know I wonder how different this case would look if these were the closing arguments for State vs. Alexander. I wonder if any of the haters would have stood up for Jodi as well.
Let me just say I have an 11 year old soon to be 12 and what jodi did would look minor to what i would do if someone said that about her. And I tell you what It wouldn’t have been in the bathroom . I would do it in court if i had to. All Parents must be crazy if you talk to JM about this because i don’t know one parent who feels differently then me. And i talk about this with a bunch of people.
sorry double post
HLN and the Travestites believe it is perfectly okay and normal for a 30-year old man, to talk about a 12-year old in such manner. And it’s perfectly okay to call your girlfriend such vile names as 3-hole-wonders, etc.
It is perfectly okay that TA lied about being a virgin to his mormon friends. All that shit is okay. No big deal, really. 🙄
It’s fucking sickening.
Ok well then I hope they feel the same when parents every where start gutting people for this kind of talk. Because if it was so COOL then why didn’t his friends know about it . If you remember EVERYONE including JM looked like they were going to THROW UP! and that was AFTER they heard it before the court did. So how F*ed is that?
My gawd Nurmi. You the man! I checked in late but hes like butter baby cuz he’s on a roll!
When Nurmi was talking about the sex tape I wish he had mentioned the ”you were miserable and I still raped you” comment.Would be soooo powerful and would substantiate proof of sexual abuse even more to the jury’s minds.
Is juror #8 wearing the blue striped shirt??????
No the solid lighter blue. Older guy
I knew Nurmi was going mop the floor with JM’s face today
but I had no idea
he
was
going
to
be
this
INTENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone else agree?
I kinda need a xanax
agreed!
Up till yesterday I thought Jennifer would be better but man…I was wrong! HE IS amazing!!!!!!!!!!
I can’t look away!
This is spot on Nurmi and yes folks wouldn’t you take vaginal and anal pics of your supposed repeated stalker? Wouldn’t you send a pic of your penis to someone who you was stalking you? Gimme a break. Makes no sense is right. Putting all the pieces together—-thank you Mr. Nurmi.
That guy with the whit hair behind Nurmi just fell asleep…! WTF? If you’re going to fall asleep why wouldn’t you just watch it at home.
Can’t believe the judge isn’t saying anything-
judge in CA case would have thrown him out
and the rest of the trash
Jodi looks so beautiful today. Despite her tears and sorrow, she is simply gorgeous.
She’s radiant!! (((((((Jodi)))))
Indeed, Trixels.
Juan is whispering to Flores as Nurmi is talking about that Flores didn’t measure the height of the other shelves…whisper…whisper…whisper….Flores took some notes as Juan is whispering to him….
Telling him “you DS! Why didn’t you measure that!?!”
lmao!!
if you aren’t watching hln .. DON’T .. they’re shredding everything down to remind Jodi to look at Jen and why not to wear orange . . what I have to say about what needs to be done to them would incriminate me so leave it to your imiagination . . shhhhh!!! lol
KICK THAT PERSON OUT.
UFB! Phone ringing!
Judge Miss Pickle Puss is such a joke!
They did it….HLN took a commercial break during Nurmi’s closing!! What happened to unbiased journalism. No break yesterday during mr shrimpy’s closing
EXACTLY….THEY DISCRIMINATE….
Ooooopsie cell phone ring
and judge pickles
does not say a thing
fucking bitch
Yeah! and the guy who was just asleep started LAUGHING! DISRESPECTFUL!
WTF???Phone ringing and stupid Judge says NOTHING!
Just what I was thinking.
OMG and the judge doesn’t dismiss that person with the phone one from the court room . .I’ve had to leave because of a chronic cough
Belvin Perry would have stopped everything and made a specticle of that person!
It was terrible timing and I hear it the ringtone came from the Alexander Clan area.
But lets not forget poor Alyce had a moment like this.
It just wasn’t during such an intense moment.
Mistakes happen.
I’m glad Alyce didn’t get punished, considering she was on the stand when it happened.
someone cell phone just went off to playing a tune…everyone paused…judge looks mad…
DAMN
At our courthouse, there are medal detectors and phones are NOT ALLOWED.
Nice ringtone.
How embarrassing…
STUPID JUDGE!!!!! I can’t believe she said nothing.
Un f-ing believable…and the judge says nothing!!!!!!!!!Even the camera man was waiting for her to say something to the dolt with the cell phone. NO CONTROL OF THE COURTROOM!!!! SHAME!
Chris Williams @chriswnews 1m
Someone w/#TravisAlexander family section just has song ring-toned phone go off for a
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KIrk!!!!!!!
Way to go!!POINT,POINT POINT that finger to Florez Nurmi!!!
Makehim feel ashamed IF he’s capable of that emotion!!!
I loved it when he did that, did you see Flores suddenly be alert? Serve him right! But he’s not the type to have emotion, one look tells me all. I’m very good at telling what people are like by the look of them, and he has shit running through his veins.
Nurmi is doing a fantastic job! Jodi does look so pretty today, I love her hair pulled off of her face. She looked so cute when she laughed when Nurmi made a joke about her. Big hugs and kisses to you all! All my prayers are with all of you guys and Jodi, Much love, Jessie meow
“somebody’s lying here….and in this case, it ain’t Jodi Arias”
BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s Dr Horn and Inspector Flores. For damn sure.
I wish he would’ve talked a little more about that.
HAAHAAHAA! HLN facebook statement “KN is out of his League! You got that right honey . He’s WWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAYYYYYYY past grade school. See you guys they are starting to get it over there!!! LOL
HAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAH
mysterious gopher
Fuck yes, take that mr martinez
The MYSTERIOUS GOPHER!!! LOL
Did you guys notice that Jodi’s family has on purple ribbons today? Remember yesterday the TA Taliban had their blue ribbons on. Love ya, meow!
Nice, yes!
They’ve been having them on for a long time.
I’m sitting here with chronic toothache, determined not to miss a thing 🙁
Haaahaaaaa the mysterious Gopher!!!
I know! I loved the comment about the tigers and bears and now the mysterious gopher.
As well as, ‘you don’t send pictures of your penis to your stalker.’
Nurmi is doing a good job of pointing out the ridiculous.
someone here have any privvy to inside the court room? . . would love to see the jurors facials . . even if on the “dark side” . . KNs material hits the spot if you have a funny bone.
The guy with the white hair is SLEEPING again! Kick his ASS out of the courtroom !
Oh Dorothy, I didn’t see that, wow, sleeping? Thank goodness he wasn’t on the jury.
at least he’s not S N O R I N G….lol
truthseeker111, ..his mouth actually opened…AND his head was back…I think he was on the verge of snoring if he wasn’t already.
I am very impressed with our Nurmi.
He’s good, he’s a lovely guy, I knew that when I first saw him, people are what they look 🙂
Yes..KN is absolutely impressive, huggable, comfortable . . believable. He’s not coming off pretentious. I would like to hear that all along Jodi has the shot, stabbed and throat slice tagged to her attack when it’s not been proven she had a knife or that she remembers having one to do the stabbing and slicing. She shot ta in fear of her life, did not actually mean to because anyone that’s used a pistol knows it’s possible to pull the trigger at an untimely moment .. but Jodi said she had the pistol and it was pointed at ta . . therefore the accident happened resulting in ta being injured.. after that . . I have to go with what “is” by her own words and nothing else about that instance. . . So get rid of and fix the stabbing/slice stigma part altogether.
had to return my use computer my brother bought me did not work properly and had to watch HLN yesterday mini me JM went all day with out a comercial but the defence there are so im here to watch live fee on my brothers computer
Hey Tonya! Did you read the cards for today/ You were on the ball the other day!
I hope KN ends it like Matthew McConaughey did in a time to kill… “NOW IMAGINE IT WAS YOUR DAUGHTER THIS HAPPENED TO” Boy what an impact!!
I think that is one of the things they are not allowed to say, and why Grumpy Old Troll objected earlier.
I hope he doesnt,because then you know we’re bound to hear Martinez closing his damn arguments showing an autopsy photo and saying ”Imagine if this was your son”
Yeah I didn’t think of that !! Your right Maria.
Kirk is spreading doubt allllll over up in there! Like butter!
AND SMOOOOTH like butter 😉
YES…smoooth….like a smoooooth operator. I think I now have a crush on Kirk.
Butter good analogy and compare to hyper activity of yesterday! What direct oppposites in stature and mannerisms!
Should have been 1 hour all along!!!!!
Hi there Moni 🙂
Hey Dorothy!!!!!!!!
Do you think Nurmi is done or will he continue after lunch?
Nurmi is not finished…he has more too say after lunch
🙂
Nurmi is doing an excellent job in closing arguments. What he is saying is entirely believable and in stark contrast to what Martinez tried to pull. It is my hope the jury is paying attention to everything he is saying because sure as shit Martinez is going to get back up and try calling him a liar.
I have seen a post on FB that the jury is sitting up and paying close attention. SO hopefully they are getting it.
I thought the way he worded the 12 year old girl part was very effective—who says that ?
Yup, Nurmi hit the ball OUT OF THE PARK on that one!
I agree. He was so strong when he said how disgusting it was. There is no way around that sick comment TA made.
I have a question…will the jury be required to stay (sequestered?) during deliberation, or will they be going home at night?
No
They go home
HLN is sooooo stupid. Now because Nurmi says he doesn’t like her and she smiles that’s why Travis treated her that way because she apparently likes drama?? Why can’t it just be a damned joke!!
Stop giving them ratings and watch live feed instead…just a suggestion.
I’m a trainer….I’m at the gym right now and unfortunately this is my only way to see it right now:(
OOPS Sorry 😳
If they are not a nielson family then they are not giving them ratings but if you dont want to feel sick, I would stop watching them:0
Yes, they’re saying it indicates she likes that kind of abuse (like what Travis dished out) and was an aha moment for the jurors. Right. Now we’re all on notice: Women who are abused actually like it. And to term his comment abusive is intentionally blurring a very clear line.
The phone thing, and falling asleep…WTF Casey Anthony Judge Strickland, threw folks out for these stupid f-ups.
Unbelievable! Now HLN is claiming, because Jodi smiled when Kurt said “Nine days out of ten I don’t like Jodi” it indicates that she likes being abused. As I said, un-fucking-believable!
sick
Ohbyea I just comment on that! They’re so stupid! Really, oh they can tell that she likes it just because she laughed about that comment from Nurmi. Wow!
At least he doesn’t have ‘feelings’ for her lol.
I have high hopes that Kurt will clear up that remark before the end of his closing. The haters are jumping on that with both feet and I’d like to see their feet knocked out from underneath their ignorant and hateful asses.
It was a joke.
The comment was stricken from the record on request of JM.
It shows there is a bond between them.
haven’t we all had something or someone in our lives that were a pita but we adored them anyway . . Jodi got it and like a child . . she knows Kirk . . not that this is a good time but he’s like her guardian angel . . they’ve been thru alot for a long period of time . . he might not approve of some of her ways and she might be a pain in his butt for 9 days but they put that aside on the 10th, she’s still likable. Also this pretty much puts jm in his place for a nasty remark of kirk being smitten and twisted/manipulated/seduced by his client.
So…now they’re admitting TA abused JA!
got my tablet barely charged enough to see KN talking about stories
did he kind of alude to the intruders being a possibility (or not able to disprove) or am I imagining things since I missed most of it???????
No he said the ninjas were a ridiculous story.
I thought he did kind of allude to it when he first starting talking. He said the jury has to figure out whether she killed him in self defense they way the defense claims, that what the prosecution said happened, or ‘something else’ entirely.
That’s what I thought Sam!
I will have to rewatch that later.
Omg from HLN: it shows tthat Jodi like being treated thecway TA treated her, because she laughed at what Nurmi said earlier abiut nit liking her 9times out of 10.
Oh that is just sick.
Fuck them. I hope they spontaneously combust on TV.
Sorry if this has been answered – but did Jodi ever say which Walmart she returned the gas can to?
Nurmi was so direct in his statement to the jury that it must be what he says.
She said the “same” store. The thing that still bugs me is that Nurmi didn’t make it a point to bring up that it wasn’t a gas can, it was a Kerosene can. WHY WHY WHY wouldn’t he point that out? It would’ve put more doubt in the jurors mind.
See my updates at http://jodi-arias.wikispaces.com/WalmartReturn
But I would wait until Nurmi’s awesome closing is over.
Thanks for info. Maybe somebody told she had the wrong can when she went to fill it. Something I would do.
I just read where one of the haters wrote ” Thank goodness we’ve got an hour break. Mr. Martinez was careful not to be too nasty about experts. Not Mr. Nurmi I think there’s going to be come back from Mr. Martinez about this.”
I still wonder what trial they were watching yesterday??? Juan has been rude to every witness for the defense and was rude yesterday about them especially Alyce. Heck he was even rude to some of his own witnesses.
Makes me want to scream!!! I didn’t comment on it because I knew it wouldn’t do any good.
Crystal, the best thing is to ignore HLN and pretend it doesn’t exist. I stopped watching it 2 weeks ago and my blood pressure is back to normal 🙂
I haven’t watched HLN since the trail stopped being on TRUTV. I was beginning to see that I didn’t believe what they were saying. What I was hearing and what they were saying wasn’t the same thing. But I do have Beth Karas updates so I can know what is going on in courtroom. This was wrote under her post.
NG looked really old in the face last night …so I guess the stress is aging her…LOL…
actually Beth looks old in the face right now too on HLN…maybe the stress of wanting to win is aging her too….I noticed last night that Jean C. looks older too in the face…more wrinkles and dark under their eyes….
Maybe with losing their jobs has caused them stress. and possible cost them a makeup artist LOL
did you notice how anorexic they all look…size 0
and they need to get rid of those sleeveless dresses….not everyone has pretty arms that are wrinkle and blemish free…they need to wear sleeves on their arms…their sleeveless dresses bring more attention to how old they are…
they’ all have botox injection appointments coming up .. only thing that moves on their faces are their mouths
I have issued warnings to them, their jjobs ARE at stake.
The way to tackle it is through reputational risk via Time Warner shareholders (the parent company) and using the News of the World as an example.
That said, if you look closely at what they are doing, it’s unlikely to affect jurors.
If you google “Jodi Arias” now, all the HLN links have disappeared, it’s broadly neutral coverage, with some not-so-subtle hints that the prosecution case is bullshit.
OMG Martinez SHIT all over ALV yesterday. He was not careful, he was rude and downright obscene with his sexist garbage.
WTF are these people on???
they must be sharing stuff with skeletor…
Just as I anticipated….Nurmi is knocking this out of the park! Even HLN knows it, they are doing their best to downplay it, but this case is already over. The defense has not only poked holes in the states case, but literally proven the charges have NO MERIT whatsoever.
The DA should be ashamed of himself, his case, and all the supporters need to go directly to their priest or whoever they repent to and beg for forgiveness. How on earth could any human being knowingly accuse an abused woman of premeditated murder, even if she wanted to kill her abuser, after they know he raped her, assaulted her, verbally abused her again and again, and ADMITTED TO IT!! With that, he admitted he was sexually attracted to children, are you fucking kidding me! These crackpots have the audacity to say ANYTHING about her guilt, and support a rapist pedophile, why…..because he was a MORMON! plain and simple. If he was some joe schmoe off the street, they would be applauding her, calling her a hero, which to me she is, and celebrating her release when it happens. HYPOCRIT pieces of shit! You can all go to HELL and rot!! Your not worthy to even have her name come from your lips!!!
Now, I feel so much better!! NOW LETS START THE PARTY!!!! woo hooo!
Yup Melvis iv noticed that HLN have been admitting the defense vis doing great. I wonder if they’re doing that just in case the jury find her not guilty, they wont feel like such idiots.
.I hope Nurmi brings up the Hughes ltrs showing THEY said TA was being abusive.
i know uh…btw did you read the post I put up yesterday…their email….calling him abusive flat out.
Juan and Flores sure were taking lots of notes…and whispering a few times…getting ready for their bullchyt finale…..
Really?? You have to act in thoughts of pedophilia to be one??? You just can’t think or verbalized those thoughts and be wrong? These people are crazy? Would the leave their children with someone who only has “thoughts of pedophilia”??? HLN is NUTS!! You’d think they had a relationship with Travis!
Sorry for the typos…that just really angered me. BTW that’s what typos look like. Not completely different phrases…
lol . . exactly
I wonder if NG would be comfortable leaving her twins with a person who just *thinks* about molesting children…I mean he/she has not acted on it. 🙄
I had a brief (albeit insane) conversation over on the HLN hate site (under a pseudonym, of course) and I learned that many of those idiots over there still think that we over here believe that Jodi didn’t kill Travis. Intentional ignorance is what I call it.
It’s just one more indication of how these people leap straight to conclusions, to their version of the truth, and never let go. They read the name of the website and decide, beyond a reasonable doubt and without any investigation, what we are thinking. Just like they believe that just because Jodi lied she must be guilty, no trial needed.
most of them have 5th grade IQ’s…lol…
Yea and because Jodi kept going back, TA really didnt abuse her. “Unhealthy communication pattern”
They’re all delusional!
that is true….
and I can remember going back again and againto be with my abusive ex…at the time I thought that the sex was “out of this world” …it was like an addiction…I was under his spell….then one day my father stepped in and literally saved me from anymore physical contact with him…eventually my mind cleared and I am onto a better future without him…
They’re afraid . . ones that “feel” different and some that know things closer to the truth cannot be caught expressing “the feel different” . . it’s fear. Look what the haters have done out in open, what do you think would happen to someone in their group that had independent thinking different than the ones that are running the show.
Has any of the commentators on the TV made a remark about how wonderful the judge is in keeping her courtroom in order? A RINGING CELL PHONE????
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http://youtu.be/Ly9NyHC1yV8
Yup Melvis iv noticed that HLN have been admitting the defense vis doing great. I wonder if they’re doing that just in case the jury find her not guilty, they wont feel like such idiots.
I hope Nurmi brings up the Hughes ltrs showing THEY said TA was being abusive.
Ooopps, that was for one of Melvins comments. Sorry! Lol
JVM is such a fool.
Go NURMI – called out Martinez on his prejudiced bullshit!!!
<3
HLN is really hoping the jurors are watching. Beth Karas just said that Jody forged letters from jail detailing Travis’ interest in little boys. She said the defence wanted to use them but the judge denied it, then the prosecution wanted to use them to show the lengths Jodi would go to. I have never heard anything about this until today. How would one forge anything from jail? They want to get out every bit of dirt they can weather it’s fact or fiction, as long as it goes against the defence. Pricks…..
I was thinking the exact same thing!! They’ve been doing this all along, though.
just more lies on the part of HLN.
I’m sure the prosecution would have brought them if they were proven fogeries, BUT THEY WEREN’T. They were deemed likely travis writing, but they could not swear to it I guess because they were copies and not the originals.
Beth said that the state proved that Jodi forged them from jail…and she said that is the reason that the judge wouldn’t allow them into court..
BETH…if you are reading this….THE STATE LIES ABOUT LOTS OF THINGS…
How did the state PROVE they were written from jail? Does any one know if this is true? I just read they were copies and therefore unreliable.
The same way they “prove” the killing, the premeditation…give me a break !!!!
I am happy BK will no longer be covering trials. I have always thought she was biased to prosecution…as is NG and most others. JC doesn’t seem to me to be “as biased” since she was on the stand in this trial. I really am not concerned if jurors do catch HLN, for those who have heard the details realize HLN is biased and pro-proseuction. And don’t you know that if there were indeed “forged” letters written in jail that this judge would have allowed JM to use same? I read they were copies and therefore not reliable, although likely TA writing. At any rate, justice finds it’s way and in my own humble opinion, I believe juries get it right MOST of the time. These pundits can’t know what the jury is thinking…and frankly, most on jury don’t think like pundits it seems! I saw tweets wherein one pundit said jury was losing interest and then next tweet from another pundit said jury was very alert! Go figure. I did note further tweets from the one who thought jury disinterested were mostly negative to defense. Seemed to me to be wishful thinking!
“Incomprehensible” is just about right!!! LMAO
I actually laughed out loud for real and had to close my office door!
Did anyone ever see the letters that the defense planned to submit into
Evidence that were from Travis to jodi admitting to be a pediophile ? Apparently they weren’t
Allowed to use them because they were firged( supposedly there is proof jodi wrote them while incarcerated). I would live to see them
Were is there proof that she wrote them? I think thats all BS coming from people that dont know.
they weren’t forged. there is no proof they were forged, Kermit actually lied about that and so did Chris Hughes.
They were actually deemed likely Travis’ writing.
please don’t bring any more crap over from HLN.
I agree. HLN can say that they are forged, but then HLN has said a bunch of other shit that wasn’t true either.
A writing expert deemed it was highly likely it was TA. They weren’t admitted because they were photocopies. HLN lives in make believe land with the DA..
someone needs to tweet this to Beth…LOL..
BETH…if you are reading this….THE STATE LIES ABOUT LOTS OF THINGS…
i called her on it on facebook. I also pointed out that it wasn’t Jodi’s voice saying how she liked 12 yr old girls orgasms….that was a big hit!!
lol truth hurts
Yeah . . when the binder written msgs were found early in this trial, you can bet everything Jodi did was strictly observed and thing is . . the jury has already seen that in evidence . . has hln forgotten . . I’m sure the jury hasn’t. oops . .
omg…hornets nest hot today on HLN…they don’t like their “saint” being exposed….lmao!!!
I think this is worse than CA trial, and that was bad,all thanks to the idiots working for HLN.
you are right Mariana
I have a postcard ready to send to Jodi but I have this feeling I need to wait for the verdict. I want to make sure she sees it.
Since I cant send her a postcard I sent her a ”letter” .There’s a FB group ( Supporters ofJodi Arias) and the administrator said we could e-mail our letters to him/her and he/she would print them out and give them to the family to hand them to Jodi.I never got a reply or confirmation back after sending the e-mail with my short letter and I’m worried 🙁 I so want Jodi to read it and know I love and support her.
wonder if a blanket letter could be made that we all sign and delivered by one entity. It could be an easy way to get a msg thru that there are alot of people who have Jodi in our thoughts and prayers
Is the defense finished
No annie…just lunch break.
I will be nervous wreck in the next few days or a week until the verdict is reached.
Shanna Hogan @shannahogan
Courtroom so packed today only one person from the public was drawn through a lottery for a coveted seat at the #jodiarias trial.
WOW!!!!!
It is sad that they are making a spectacle of this. Are they all waiting for Perry Mason moment yet?
will that person get to have dinner with juan after court today…I hear they are serving good ole southern fried frog legs at the local restaurants….
So, if the court room doesn’t have the general public in it, who are all the people sitting in there?? I wonder.
SJ-
It took me a while to read your post, as I was too busy watching Nurmi kick some serious ass. I just read it and wanted to tell you that you are too f ‘n funny, and that I have appreciated your humor, insight and unwavering support of Jodi and therefore support of all women who have been victims of DV!!
Victory is near…how will you be celebrating?
I will be takingTWO shots of Grey Goose, one for me and one for Jodi!
Wildly Thanks for your kind comments TR!
SJ
Team Jodi
Beth Karas @BethKaras
Jurors appear attentive and focused, just as they did yesterday when Martinez addressed them. #jodiarias10:16 AM – 3 May 2013
The jury should be sequestered immediately after closing arguments until they come to a verdict. (They should have been sequestered all along actually). But really, sending them home for the weekend before even starting deliberations?! So wrong.
I’m with you CL!! I’ve thought the same thing all along, and I do think that they should go straight into deliberations when the closing arguments are finished!! Leaves too much time for jurors to be curious as to what’s out there in the reporting of the trial. It’s very wrong!
I also agree with both of you.
I don’t think it’s a problem. The jury are clearly serious and attentive.
They are not going to be swayed by some kmow-nothing.
I think Nurmi is deliberately appealing to the personality type that might be a risk to Jodi, he is being quite “macho” if you like. JUst my impression.
The jury have seen the entire trial, and have asked some pretty smart questions.
I presume they will have excellent access to the evidence when they start their deliberations Monday.
It’s probably better they have a rest and start with fresh minds, after the marathon on Wednesday.
I agree totally…with all of the media presence it should have been a no brainer!!
Was the Casey Anthony jury sequestered? I can’t remember….
One of the haters said: “Jodi is watching KN today much more than she watched JM yesterday. Dual personality!” Good God. We must all have dual personalities!
Ya cause I’m was spewing shit!!!
Oops jm was spewing shit lol
Those idiots will spew anything just to get attention. Most of them that flap their jaws haven’t even watched the trial from the start….. It’s a shame that our country GLEAMS over violence, bullying, hatred etc…… and they call themselves Christians, and American…
On another note, has anyone heard from AA she’s been MIA the past two days…. Lilttle worried about her.
Second note, PPL stop watching HLN today……….. We all know they are for the pro pro JUAN fan club… We need postive energy on this site for JODI..
Agreed !!! I keep sending Jodi and ‘the TEAM’ a white light of love and protection….
I’ve been praying to the Archangels and the Universe since early this morning.I also did a card reading.FU is right.Stop getting exposed to negative energy people,turn off the TV and watch the live feed.We DO need all the positive energy we can send out to Jodi!!!
Agreed…stay off HLN. Think of your blood pressure!
120/80 normal…
mine 90/60
I stay off HLN…for most of the times…LOL…
I’m worried about her too.
I hope there’s some folks here who are in touch with her and know she is ok. <3
Why would Jodi watch JM shit on her?
It’s like they WANT her to sit there and be insulted.
Only abusers think this way.
Hell, I can’t stand looking at that ugly little troll. Poor Jodi can smell him!
Neither can I. lol
WTF does the judge give them an hour lunch break, but they take a fk-en 1 1/2 like she didn’t want today….. she has no control and she’s the most bias judge I have ever watched in a trial,.
Yes, I agree. And I really gave her the benefit of the doubt.
This “anything goes” attitude is so destructive to everything we know as American citizens.
The judge, along with kermit and his sidekick droopy dog, and HLN are undermining the Constitution at every turn. I loathe them all.
Guess JUAN has to be digging up some shit with FLORES for his next round is the reason for the delay.
If the alexander clan doesn’t want to hear what Nurmi says. Fine.
So leave court for that day, rather than sitting around acting like jerks.
exactly
They don’t like hearing the truth.
of course not that would be the end of their victim role here in this trial
BECAUSE THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🙂
HLN wants to say that a dropped camera was not enough provocation for Travis to want to attack (but apparently not being able to go to Cancun was enough for Jodi to want to kill.) They say that there is no proof of violence in Travis’ past to indicate he would want to kill someone (but the fact that there is no such proof in Jodi’s past either doesn’t seem to be mentioned.) I’ve said it before: Misogyny with a capital M!
True! This trial is absolutely filthy with misogyny.
So impressed with Mr. Nurmi, he’s doing a great job.
SO TRUE!!!!
LATEST BOMBSHELL TODAY May 3rd 2013
I came across a blog very late last night from a courtroom reporter who was answering questions from ppl on her blog about the trial. Someone asked for JUAN is married, she stated ” he’s not married but very involved with a gorgeous lady that is very intellgent and known at the courthouse” hmmmmmm
long blonde hair?…LOL…
Renee are you out there today?
Yes………………..was just taking my psych final 🙂
Do you have AA personal email? IF so, could you shoot her email to see if she’s ok… she’s been MIA for a couple days, and I am worried about her. She’s always been very engaged in our conversations about this trial.
GOOD luck on your psych final.
thanks, I aced it!
I dont have her email…………
also, New page this afternoon!
Just read something about nurmi filling a bunch of motions to leave as Jodi lawyer.. anyone know why he wanted to leave her?
I find that very hard to believe.
This is old NEWS, he wanted off the case because he was starting his own private practice.
“Calculations based on nothing.” Ain’t that the truth!!!!
Glad he said that out loud !
We are back on!
This could be a hard session for Jodi, but it’s the very last time.
Hi everyone, Let me say first: I’m not a jodi hater, this is my first post and I’m watching a recorded right now (trying to catch up) anyway my reason for posting is there are a couple of things that are driving me NUTS
1st… Walmart doesn’t refund without receipt, bullshit, I worked for them about 15 years, as a manager in a couple different depts. Walmart DOES refund with or without receipts, especially in 2008. Walmart DOES use dummy UPC’s or SKU’s, we did it all the time if we didn’t have a UPC.
2nd…. Gunshot DID incapacitate TA, again I say Bullshit, I have a sad story… my stepmom was in an abusive relationship and the day the divorce was final he showed up and shot and killed her mom and dad that were sitting at the table, then went after her. Now he fired a few shots but one of those went into her head. she lost her eye and there are still bullet fragments in her brain, but after this shot that should have dropped her, she managed to shoot back, kill him, then make her way to the cars and attempt to start it. She was unable to, then made her way back into the house and laid down on the couch. Well that is how they found her and thank God she is still alive and walking and talking and driving and laughing… so DO NOT try to tell me that shot would have dropped him. I do wish the defense had brought a rehab employee or rehab dr or even a brain shot patient to dispute the prosecution.
Hang in there Jodi, be strong, have faith
FUJuan .. I kept the links you put out about the Mesa ME but didn’t get to see them yet. Thx . . did you post them again today for those that missed it about Horn?
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/20120816maricopa-county-seeks-medical-examiners.html#comments
http://path.upmc.edu/people/residents/horn/horn-cv.html
New page!!
Was the Casey Anthony jury sequestered?
Yes!
yes
Go NURMI!!!!!!
That’s right, why TAKE PICTURES and put yourself at the scene and document dying your hair if you are trying to look different.
DUUUUH kermit
Nurmi is doing well. He’s patient and going through every stick of bullshit Martinez threw at the jury.
Oh and since I was late today:
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((((Hugs!!!))))
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Yes – shallow wounds to the back…..!
Oooh good effect there Nurmi!!!
I think a bunch of us flinched at that.
I did!!!!!
I did.
Oh Jodi 🙁 *hugs*
Hell yeah! That was awesome. The left hand comment was brilliant. No one knows what happened in there that day. But she is not a cold blooded killer! She was attacked. No doubt.
It is repulsive Nurmi. I totally agree.
<3s to you.
The abuse, mistreatment, and disrespect of women has to END!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes. I think Nurmi really understands this, too! What a decent man.
I think I’m going to throw up now.
Me too, was hard to not gag! 🙁
“At least the times it was consensual” Love how he pointed that out!!!
“inappropriate communication pattern.”
That’s right Nurmi just call it what it is – ABUSE.
No need for five dollar words.
omg the fricken gas cans
“Someone’s not telling the truth there, right?”
RIGHT.
LOL can I get an Amen.
http://izismile.com/2012/12/03/funny_picdump_24_pics-13.html
Funny pic of the day!!!!
Eeeeewwww that is disgusting! YUK
haha reminds me of:
http://www.lolbrary.com/post/14674/they-said-i-could-become-anything-so-i-became-a-cloud/
ROFLCOPTER XD
gross…lol…
at first I thought it was Pamela Anderson and her big ball- balloons boobs
love the cactus tff someone posted this last night on a fb page somewhere.. pretty funny about tot doc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6eqDnU5sP8
oh now that is hilarious!!!
I am not watching HLN, but just from reading some of the posts here I am not ashamed to admit that I blew a gasket at one of my blogs.
I didn’t publish it. It actually started as a comment here, then I thought no, I’ll just put it on my blog and post a link. Then I thought, no, I should probably not feed the trolls that lurk here anyway.
Holy shit they are starting on time!!!!
I think I’m in shock!!!
THIS IS A FIRST!! LOL My computer about scared me because I figured I had a few mins and had volume way up LOL
LMFAO If u hold your mouse over the photo above it says Juan Martinez- a 4 ft pile of shit in shoes.
That is fackin funny as hell. IM DYINGGGGGG LAUGHING ! aye dios mio
Nurmi was everything I thought he could be. I loved the comment after the 12 year old girl thing “WHO SAYS THAT?!” – JM gave me a migraine with his shit talking.