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Jodi Arias Trial – Day 54 (after trial comments)

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After Dr Robert Geffner has now successfully ripped DeMarte, Horn & Martinez a new one within the space of a few hours – and shown them up for the amateurs they really are – leave your after trial comments below on day 54.

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  13. How many questions changed between new and old TSI2…

    This question could go both wAys

  14. I hope they take this testimony seriously and not throw it all out because they don’t understand it and have different opinions. This guy is clearly far ahead of DeMarte and it should be noted.

    • Come on, they wouldn’t be asking all these questions if they had planned on throwing it all out.

    • Actually,

      God bless that juror for the question about the hemorrhaging!! Dr. G’s answer indicated one of two things

      1) Jodi shot him first
      2) Jodi did not do this at all, Travis was shot hours or a day or two after his death

  16. This (witness testimony) is gonna go past today. So much for the closing argument schedule…

  17. You are still going to see hemorrhage and damage whether it happened pre or post death. We are talking one minute here after all.

  18. We know the shot was pre death because of the hemorrhage in the face, sinuses, nose, etc.

    • The idea of Jodi attacking a large man with a knife at the get go was a real stretch in the first place. Only if she was looking to be killed. Clearly that is not what happened.

      • So true, there is no way she could come at him with a knife first and not be swatted to the ground, so crazy that anyone would even believe such a thing!

  20. “He spilled water twice and burped on the stand” – Oh Nancy if only we could all be as graceful as you.

    • What a bitch. She is a total fuckfaced asshole slut. I can’t stand her. She is a disgrace.

    • LOL exactly . . like her botox stoned face fail leaving a lasting affliction.

    • I think that made him seem like a real person not pretending to be perfect or better than others. He laughed at himself.

      • I agree. I would never laugh at a defense witness who did that and discredit him. What a bunch of creeps.

    • I really can’t stand Nancy Grace. 20 more minutes of her and then Dr. Drew and all of his random people he calls experts but he doesn’t make my blood pressure go up. I think I could be an expert on Dr. Drew. You just walk down the street in front of wherever HLN studios are and you knock on the door and say hey, I’m an expert and I like to yell over people who are talking. Then they’ll be like you like to interrupt people come on in!

    • Didn’t I tell you she’d bring that up? Did she start with “Jodi Arias laughs in open court?” She is so predictable!

  21. They keep wanting to prove Jodi manipulated the tests. I hate that. That is soooo hard to do.

    • If it’s that easy to manipulate the test results, we need to rethink the need for psychology as a science / treatment path. I understand the games that are played in a courtroom – my father was taking a deposition the day I was born – but to claim that 1) a defendant faked the test results that are not useful to you – yet 2) was somehow outsmarted by a test with results that might point to a diagnosis that would be useful to you – is (to me) such a transparent ploy that I wonder how Juan Martinez can look at himself in the bathroom mirror every morning.

  22. No way to fake the tests!!!! Oh,it feels sooooo good! The haters better NOT suggest Jodi surfed the Internet

  23. I will not miss hearing Judge Dread reading Juror questions
    She does it with such contempt and snide

    • She reads the questions like she’s reading to a ten yr old child. Oh, wait, maybe that’s her reading level.

  24. All HLN can stoop to are ad hominem attacks. What a waste of space they are and what a travesty as people watch this crap and believe it and agree with it. What kind of country is this? I know we have the first amendment rights, thank goodness, but this type of vilification is beyond what should be allowed. It leads to violence and threats.

    • That’s just it – there’s limits to ALL freedoms. I’m tired of bullies and abusers hiding behind freedom of speech as if it makes their behavior okay. It doesn’t. There’s a real lack of motivation for those people to take responsibility and self regulate their behavior outside of the law coming in to limit the damage they are doing.

  26. Ugg I’m stuck on HLN w Nancy Grace. She said that JM was running over the Doc w a minivan and was making fun of the Doc for spilling his water. She’s so mean. She’s acting like this Doc is horrible when he’s awesome. You could put the Pope on the stand and Nancy Grace would say how terrible he was and that he had a crush on Jodi. I wish Nancy Grace would become an astronaut and fly to Mars or something.

    • I was in class so stuck with DVRing HLN today. I am nearing the end of Vinny hah so behind. Is HLN going to continue coverage since it seems like today is running much later than usual? Thanks 🙂

      • I also hope NG isn’t talking over jury questions like she did last week ugh.

      • I think they are going to continue coverage. Isn’t it great when it’s DVRed?! You don’t have to listen to all of their chatter! I have to DVR tomorrow and Friday and I’m kind of happy about it!

        • Yes that is exactly what I am doing. Fast forwarding thru all the TRASH while making my study notes. Multitasking 🙂 I’m happy they are continuing their coverage. Thank you!

    • I was thinking what I would say to NG if I ever met her yesterday. LOL. I don’t know why, but I was thinking about it. But then I realized I couldn’t say anything because she’d have a smart ass come back to make and I would get so mad my head would explode LOL LOL.

      • It is SO obnoxious!! And we ARE missing a few seconds of trial lol HLN lies! I can’t wait to see what happens when Jodi gets off or charged with lesser degree. I wonder how long they will milk coverage of this trial after the fact. Ratings will go down. To bad, so sad.

        • I know! I tell the TV when they say we’re putting the pause button on you won’t miss a minute I’m like yes I will! I’m so used to what they say I talk back to them. I’m losing it LOL. My Mom watches the trial too so we’ll make fun of them and just say the weird things they say. When I’m stuck watching NG at night and she says goodnight friend I just have to say it – Nancy, I’m not your friend. I said it one night when she really made me mad. Now I say it every time I hear her say that because it makes me laugh.

          • That is really funny!! With the NG interruptions to the juror questions to Dr. DeMarte, I shhhhushed Nancy and for some reason it got my dog’s attention!

              • OMG if the bullet did not go thru the dura mater, it didn’t hit the brain!! This is so big. I keep thinking about the historical Phineas Gage case i learned in anatomy class when he had frontal lobe damage and lived but had personality issues. (still know I am so behind lol)

  27. Looking for bias. Of course. They can’t handle the facts can they? I am really worried about the jury pool in this area.

  28. “I understand its not a shortcut” but I’m gonna keep saying it anyway cuz I’m a total piece of shit. “You’ve got more experience than that RIGHT?!”

  29. A juror wants 100% certainty.That’s good,I hope he/she/ALL OF THEM remember that when weighing Martinez BS! Reasonable doubt ladies & gentlemen,plz remember that during deliberations!

  30. The jurors need to shut that shit network off. There is no way you can manipulate the tests unless you have the training to do it. As he mentioned, you have a lot of tests to arrive at an answer.
    ‘
    At least one of those jurors is a blithering idiot.

  31. There should have been a medical doctor like Dr. Spitz to throw all of Dr. Horn’s testimony in the trash, but this guy did do significant damage. I just don’t get this court and how these witnesses are voir dired. And not throwing out juror questions that are not supported by the evidence or asking them of people who are not trained in that area or have the pertinent information available.

  33. It would have been much better for Horn to have been impeached by a well known forensic pathologist. I imagine there were some financial issues with that but even a local path would have been good.

  34. The fact that the jurors submitted more questions
    is a good sign….it’s been a long day,
    if they had not submitted anymore questions
    I would be worried, like they would be wanting to rush out
    of that crazy courtroom.

    Keep Faith everyone

  35. Right?! Right?! Right?! – Juan’s favorite word. I dare anyone to count the times he’s said right in this trial. Listen up and hear him say ‘Right?!’ like 10 times a minute. Juan “Right?!” Martinez. A legend in his own mind. Right?!

  36. What did I miss??? Turned on HLN…..up popped Kermit……where’s my wine!!!!

  37. Dumb question about the elevated scores. Killing a person is the most traumatic thing a person can EVER go through.

    What an idiot juror.

  38. Missed all of today (damned work), so am playing catch up and watching from the start.
    Sounds like it was another wondeful day for Jodi.

    Wonder how long Dr. Geffner had to prepare?
    He sure has his shit together so far.
    Pretty amazing.

        • Well shit, I didnt realize trial was still going today.
          I just thought everyone was behind like me.

          Did everyone bring sleeping bags and snacks?

          Now all I can think is – poor Jodi, she’s not going to get to eat supper…

  39. Any news about what happened with the other witness JM was supposed to call? A female doctor from New Orleans I thought?

  46. Juan must have a hearing problem ….. Most people who talk so loud typically do.

    That dig on AVL was rude

  47. HOLY!! The Alyce LaViolette school?? WTH??? He’s frothing at the mouth now!

  49. You can tell by how he is acting that he knows the Dr. has killed 2 of his witnesses testimony.

  53. I am SO sick of JM.

    Please tell me JM did not go there with ALV and trying to butcher her!

    What an ASS!!!

    • Now I know how people end up killing. I am not violent person, but I would kill this fucker right now if he treats me like that. This judge is the worst for allowing this to happen in her court. What a joke !!!!

    • Totally. I’m almost embarrassed for him. Where is the straight jacket in this court.

  58. He is coming off very childish. Whatever point he was attempting to make wont even matter.

  59. I went to the the kitchen, I missed what Juan said about Alyce
    can you someone let me know what that little prick said?

    I guess we are back in the looney bin!

    • I have said the same thing throughout this trial. This man is going to drop dead from hypertension in the middle of a trial someday.

      • I was thinking stroke…he must be on meth or something…he is one crazy Crazy

  62. This is the man tax payers want representing the state ???? They need a refund. He is dirty, shady and rude.

  63. I am starting to worry for poor JM. He is just beside himself. Now he’s obviously pained about his height. I fear he will go home tonight and sob angrily into his pillow. It is 5’5″ for you, JM. And you need a pacifier to suck on.

    • Too short to ride the rides, too tall to go to Mars.
      🙂

      P.S. I know Martinez isnt too short to ride rides, but its all I could think of!

      • Well, if JM starts running from a few feet back, real fast, and LEAPS on to the ride, he may just make it. Hopefully, he will stay on those rides for the rest of his life – wheee! 🙂

  64. Exaggeration is not the same as lying. It depends on the extent and the motivation.

    • lying is the intention to deceive, exageration is embellishing, and we are all guilty of that. JM is such an idiot!

  65. judge please show minimal competence and stop allowing jm interrupting dr g’s answer
    he’s doing such continuously
    stephens resign !

  66. Last ditch effort of Mr. Martinez to attack and trick the witness….desperation has set in. I think the psychologist is well aware of this.

  69. ex·ag·ger·ate (g-zj-rt)
    v. ex·ag·ger·at·ed, ex·ag·ger·at·ing, ex·ag·ger·ates
    v.tr.
    1. To represent as greater than is actually the case; overstate: exaggerate the size of the enemy force; exaggerated his own role in the episode.
    2. To enlarge or increase to an abnormal degree: thick lenses that exaggerated the size of her eyes.
    v.intr.
    To make overstatements.

    • lol NH, We need to call the courthouse NOW and tell them to get that dictionary out! 😉

  70. This is familiar LOL right up there with Snow White and her & pals He is such a shithead!

    • He should be he is so unprofessional, and he behaves like he is related to TA or something. Talk about being personally involved. Such a joke.

    • yes his behavior is disturbing. He needs to be put in a straight jacket and taken for evaluation.

  76. JM is setting the stage by badgering Dr. Geffner and getting him flustered so he can use his testimony against him when he brings in his “beauty and brains” expert that is coming next….

  77. I am trying to make it thru to JW’s re-questioning of the Doc but I’ve ran into Nancy time and her big bobble head keeps popping into the courtroom as I try to fast forward past Kermi’s spastic pacing and stress-inducing antics. It’s more than I can bear. He’s such a drama queen. I’m surprised he didn’t hire prostitutes to sleep with all the defense witnesses so he could secretly film it to show the jurors. He appears to be that desperate and unethical. And though I hate to throw off on the family, every time I see that bunch The Addam’s Family theme goes through my head. Da doo da doond. My apologies.

  83. stephens it’s totally improper to force a yes or no answer
    stephens resign now
    you’re so far below the minimal level of competence of a trial judge as to necessitate you to resign immediately

    jw object to the yes no questions

    continuous cutting off dr g’s answer
    stephens resign !

  87. I’m worried for JM’s health… His voice keeps cracking…. He sounds like he is going to stroke out??? He needs to simmer down. He’s watched to many Columbo episodes

    • You’re worried?I’d be happy! No sympathy for Martinez,he’s subhuman, dirty scumbag,a disgrace to all Prosecutors out there!!

    • Thats who he looks like! an ugly tiny rumpled up columbo but not quite as smart

  88. It’s like JM is on a Pogo Stick! BOING, BOING, BOING,…………. EGAD!

  89. OH, pleases!! Trying to compare the DSM to a test that is going through continual refinement is just wrong.

  91. Well I think the jury will be pretty disgusted by Martinez’ blatant attempts to basically confuse the truth.

  92. I think JM needs to go to counseling for anger and bullying.

    He is SUCH a douchebag!!!

  93. i happen to believe Jodi about TA’s abuse….and i CAN NOT STAND THIS PROSECUTOR!!!!! HE IS THE MOST OFFENSIVE AND ABUSIVE MAN I HAVE EVER HAD THE MISFORTUNE TO HAVE TO LISTEN TO.
    TA knowingly took advantage of JA the entire time they were together because he KNEW EXACTLY HOW SHE FELT ABOUT HIM, and he used her for nothing but to sexually abuse her, and LIED TO EVERYONE ELSE AROUND HIM, INCLUDING HIS CHURCH AND FAMILY. all jodi ever wanted to do was to be with travis and hopefully, eventually get married to him….and he knew that….but he didn’t care….he NEVER intended to keep her long term, and only ever intended to have her for sex. he never respected her, and unfortunately, she could not see that. but he knew how she felt and used it against her to keep her at his beckon call for his own purposes. any one who could do that is diabolic and evil to the core. she would have done ANYTHING FOR HIM, AND DID!!!! and he never cared about her. it saddens me to see the world we live in, and unfortunately how the majority of people are so hateful and mean… and cruel. i hope this jury really pays attention to their civic duty and really give her a fair shot…we are rooting for JA in my house!!!! we can not stand the prosecutor JM, he is an obnoxious bully and needs to STFU…..along with Nancy Grace and the rest of HLN’s biased , so called “journalists”…..unfortunately its all about ratings….and haters make the ratings go up. we are living in a nation of haters and hypocrites using the typical double standard of “its ok for me, but not for you!!!”. it makes me hate the human race…. ugh!!! anyway!!!
    if the jury do their job, they should be able to see that she was justified for what happened….he was abusive, and probably deserved what happened to him….and if for whatever reasons, don’t find her to be justified, then at least there is the appeals process, which could last for years, and years…i want to commend jodi for being strong enough to stand up for herself and deal with all this bull-s&%*!!!! i know she’s a good person deep down inside, and am praying for her. i believe she did what she had to do…..(god, i can not STAND JUAN MARTINEZ!!!! )))))…..is there anyway , those people who feel the same way, can complain about this trial, his performance, his deliberate abuse????? its appalling and offensive!!! him and nancy grace must have gone to the same ‘SCHOOL FOR RUDE BEHAVIOR’!!! where they both graduated at the top of their class!!! smh!!!

  97. JM is trying to discredit Samuels because he used an older version of DSM to diagnose Jodie.

  98. The DSM changes are reflective of the tests that are continually refined. Which is what DeMarte chose to ignore.

  99. If I were a juror, I would think that JM was very worried about his case to be having such a kaniption fit!

  100. First of all, the DSM has to go through approval by several different groups of therapists. It is a painstaking and long ordeal. Then, they go through the “editing” process and come out with the TR edition. LOL. This is because they find out what really doesn’t work. Wait til the DSM V comes out. Oh my gosh, many therapists don’t even want to use it. BTW, you probably tell something about my background. LOL. Suffice it to say, it would a lot easier to introduce a new edition of test than a completely new DSM.

    • Exactly! JM doesn’t understand any of this. He is just confusing the jury and he should be reprimanded or she should be objecting.

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  104. I love it when Martinez gets corrected (Published no Sent Out), he sounds so defeated when he has to admit to his snake like tactics.

  105. Is this a joke?

    Seriously OMFG

    Approach again?

    My brain is scrambled thanks to
    this crazy circus show

  106. I hope to never see a trial like this again…no kidding. I will never watch another trial from Maricopa County.

      • Yeah, its so easy to misunderstand through text.
        I’ve said things and then reread my own comment and been like, “Oh shit, I better do some clarifying before people think a Travisite ate my brain!”

          • You’re welcome; thank you for giving me the opportunity. For the record, I would NEVER post ANYTHING that was not 100% in favor of Jodi. I could not feel more compassion for her if I wanted to.

            • I knew right away what you were doing Basse…I’m sorry there was confusion…

              Might want to add those are Kermit’s thoughts though…

              You have not triggered my mole/troll radar.

              I see you posting good stuff on IT/”Maggie”/Sandra’s page.

            • I know, I have a good feeling about you.

              I contacted JC to let her know what’s going on, and that you took the time to explain your comment. I appreciate it!

  108. Everytime they have a sidebar he calms down for a little bit.. wonder if that’s why the judge has them approach with every objection?? Surely she has to get tired of hearing him too.

  110. My point in my previous post was to say….a new DSM is a big deal. They aren’t published all that frequently. Tests are edited and done with more frequency. So, per usual, JM’s argument is NOT valid.

  112. I wish they would keep the camera on the lawyers and judge, not turn to Jodi. When they approach, that is.

    • Why?After all,we are not supposed to hear(or see,lip reading)what they’re talking about.

  113. I am ordering my wheelchair now and a lifetime supply of Geritol because I am going to be 90 before this questioning ends! LOL

  115. Good gosh! If I acted like JM someone would surely send in the men with white coats. He’s like Uber-manic! He needs a sedative! STAT

  118. If the trial had been this long every day we would have been long done with this bullshit.

  119. I think the judge has her “continual overrulled button” stuck in repeat mode. She is SO ineffective!!!

  120. this judge, juan martinez, and nancy grace must all have anal sex with each other every night after court. the appellate court should overturn this entire joke of a trial……i JA is found not gulty and walks!!!! or , at the very least, a hung jury……because i would love to see nancy grace’s head spin around like a top~~~~ hehehe. just sayin!!!
    GO JODI~~~

  122. Martinez is going to end up digging a hole to China defending his newbie DeMarte.
    At least it’ll be harder to hear him from clear over there…

  124. I am so tired of listening to JM berate, interrupt, and disrespect witnesses. I don’t know if I’m going to be able to listen to him rant, rave, and make things up to go with his theory for closing arguments tomorrow…I don’t know how Dr Geffner kept his cool today because he is so IRRITATING!!

    And I used to LOVE HLN but I feel their coverage of this trial has been totally prejudicial–which is really sad since they are attorneys!! I think they are TRYING to give the jury extra info because they are still seething about the Casey Anthony verdict. They can’t go one day without bringing up that trial in comparison to Jodi’s…..

    • I am confused as to whom the DA represents, the victims( the Alexander Family) or the people of
      Maricopa County. I don t understand why the family was allowed to participate in discussions in
      judge s chambers etc. It is the job of the district attorney to seek justice not to get a conviction at
      any cost.

      I am also very upset about the circus atmosphere that surrounded this trial.I think it has to taint any
      conviction. I hope there are appealable issues.

  125. This has to end in a mistrial one way or the other. This cannot be used to put a woman on death row, innocent or not!!!! This is totally wrong. I don’t care who is on trial and what they did. This type of kangaroo court is a disgrace to the justice system.

  126. What the hell jm defending jd for anyway . . this Doc not gonna back down or wear out so jm might as well just stfu

  127. So we get to watch trials live, and that is supposed to keep them accountable. The fucked up prosecutor and judge are completely out of line, inappropriate and there are OBVIOUS lies, dirty tactics and abuse by the pros. So… what good is watching a trial to ‘keep them accountable’ if we can’t do anything about it?

    • Good question!! We should all right to the state’s attorney general..not that it would matter.

  128. I’m waiting for the madman to start throwing things…like he did with the camera! Then he’ll be having a temper tantrum on the floor….ugh…I am stressed.

  129. Boy, if this ever has to go to an Appeals court, it will certainly be accepted for review. I cannot even believe how badly the prosecutor and judge are mishandling everything. I am absolutely incredulous.

  133. Uh Oh, look out he’s gonna blow lol it’s like a train wreck, you know you shouldnt look but you have to.

  134. I hope someone out there is keeping track of how many times the judge has overruled the defense objections vs. how many times she sustained JMs. It would be interesting to see.

  137. I am so mad at Comcast. I lost internet service for 6 1/2 hours. I missed everything today.

    • Trial is still on Annie.
      Plus you can watch all of today on YouTube if you cant wait for SJ’s posts.
      Its nice when watching on YouTube, you can skip all the damned sidebars.

  138. The judge remind me of a substitute teacher today. She’s just there to watch.

  139. You’re time is still going to billed??? Really Juany you petty little toad nobody cares about the bills or hourly wage!!! Smoke and mirrors!!

  140. I am waiting for JM to spit on the witness. He is so worked up, he might have a heart attack before this whole thing is over.

  141. Where they fk is he going with this pay….. especially on other cases. JUAN is a total Mother Fucker… excuse my french….. he’s got my entire house pissed off………!!!

  142. If you’re so concerned about how much is being paid for the witness, JM, why don’t you STOP RIGHT NOW !

  144. If I were on the jury, right about now I would getting very annoyed with his senseless rambling.

  146. OMG!!! This is getting STUPID!!!!

    Every time there is a fucking approach by this judge. She cannot rule her way out of a paper bag!!!!

  147. I wish someone would perform an autopsy on JM. Hit him upside the head and crack open his brain right there in the courtroom. Tapioca, anyone? He makes my so angry!!

  148. If I am a juror, I want my supper and Juan is annoying the fuck out of me.

  149. and it drags on and on and on….. but seriously if the judge says they stay till the bitter end, the attorneys are going to be exhausted and short on sleep tomorrow.

  150. I’d just like ONE witness to throw the exhibits…(or whatever they are called) back at JM after he throws them at the witness.

    • That has always bothered me too! Then he grabs them back like a nut. I’ve just wanted someone to yell ouch a paper cut!!

  154. no, I was not aware that a bullet could warp through and bounce off the parietal jelly and come back sliding down the nose into the cheek.

  155. if dr g is confused about jm’s ramblings
    and asks an ambiguous or vague question
    DON’T allow jm to change the original question and ask another question as though it were the same question
    jm is misquoting the original question
    object
    have the court reporter read back the original question asked

  157. Seriously, if she does keep them really late they will be having issues tomorrow with lack of sleep although Martinez probably takes all kinds of shit based on his behavior.

  158. This doctor thinks just like we do, JM is mentally ill or mean as hell. I have never seen the likes of this.

  159. I don’t imagine the jury is getting anything out of this interrogation by Le Furor. He keeps going over and over the same things. They have to sit there and listen to this.

    • Yes, Die Fuehrer, perfect name for JM, haha! I have not seen this used yet.

    • He DOES remind me of Hitler…someone should sneak in while he is asleep the night before his closing arguments and draw a little mustache on him with a Sharpie permanent marker.

      • Perfection!

        “NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN!, der Fuehrer! I. Do Not. Have. A. Memory. Problem!”

  160. Jodi is yawning…

    And I am yawning too…it is 9:30 pm here…

    My mama told me to go to bed…(how many keep hearing their mama’s voice telling them to go to bed even after we’ve all grown up…I would imagine a .whole bunch of us)

    Hey….I am now the mama…so I can stay up as long as I like…

  161. what just happened? Is fuckface gonna have the good Dr. G;s testimony thown out?

      • Because Dr. G said on the stgand that he first became aware of the Trial in Nov. BUT wasn’t asked to be a witness until last week. I guess that wouldn’t be grounds though…?

        • He began working on it in Nov. Didn’t know he would actually testify until the last couple of weeks.

  162. I think the jurors have probably tuned out as much as we have. This is just going on and on and getting nowhere.

    I think we should report JM to the State Bar of Arizona for boring the fuck out of us by asking irrelevant questions!! LOL

  168. JM is the biggest joke I have seen over all the years I have been watching televised trials. Other than tabloid tv’s opinion, he is a laughing stock. I am certain his out of control and bullying behavior will not be lost on the jury, especially since they are being educated on psychological issues. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have all gotten their own copy of the DSM to diagnose him.

    • I was telling my husband the same thing. This is by far the worse trail I have ever watched. JM is out of control, the judges doesn’t have control. I rest assure knowing that no matter what the jury says, this trial can be thrown out.

      • Crystal-
        I can’t imagine it will ever get to that. The jury will probably vote Not Guilty just because he has been such a nut case, no one will even be able to believe his theories. 🙂

    • LOL TR, I have mine sitting right here on my desk………… which disorder would you like for me to bill him for? ANGER, NARCISSIISTIC, HISTRIONIC, ADHD, SCHIZO, PSYCHOTIC, ETC…

      • FUJuan-
        LOL. How many can you fit in on the Axis’ because they all seen to fit. I really am curious what your best guess, without testing him, is.

  172. I don’t know guys..if this kind of kanagroo court isn’t challenged more of your liberties are gonna go..

    • pfft…what liberties? They are being taken away at a rapid pace..not many left

      • It’s people like Juan and the judge!! They’re throwing our liberties away with both hands! We need to do something about them. We could complain to the chief prosecutor.

  173. Jurors are not allowed to speak to one another, but are they allowed to eye roll?

  174. Is court in recess…or has it ended…the state seal is still up…

  175. I was just thinking JM is watching too much Law and Order. He’s acting like he wants to be an actor. Like he wants to say the sarcastic comment right before the commercial. Stick to your day job and dial it down JM.

    • At least on Law & Order he would have been admonished by the judge or got in trouble for contempt by now! lol

      • Yeah there would have been gavel banging and he could have been pulled out yelling. That would rock. 🙂 If only there was a Judge there….oh yeah….there is that lady there. Sorry she’s bugging me too. She’s like a lump on a log.

  176. I walked out for a few minutes and when I came back the seal was on. Has JM finished screaming at this good doctor?

  177. JM is the one with memory problems. He can’t even remember the question he asked.

  179. I’ve been watching this off and on all day, as much as I could take. Someone really needs file a complaint against Juan with the bar association. As a Attorney and a officer of the court he has a professional ethics code that he is suppose to abide by, and he has been anything but professional. His show boating is obvious.

  180. JM uses manipulative questioning and focuses on nitpick-y things that aren’t even relevant, and the sad part is, as we have seen with the large hater contingent and their worship of JM as The Second Coming, many people fall for it! I am afraid that some of jurors, like the thousands of haters, will fall for JM’s bullshit, which distracts them from both the truth and the issues that actually matter. This is what bothers me so much about the Judge allowing JM to continue with his bullshit questions.

  181. If he’d asked me the question about the prosecutor being 6′ 2″, was that a lie or an exaggeration…I would have said neither, it’s Magical Thinking on the prosecutors part! LOL

  182. 13 minutes ago…

    wildabouttrial says that the jury was dismissed for 10 minutes…

    • I only asked if they are allowed to eye roll to each other. No one saw any of it. If I were on the jury, I’m not sure if I could refrain from eye rolling, tis all.

  184. This is what happens when you have no control over your courtroom and turn a one month trial into a five month circus.

    9 hour days, hungry angry jurors, and psychotic prosecutors.

  185. I think every person ever convicted by Martinez should receive a re-examination of their case.

  186. now it has been 5 minutes ago…

    wildabouttrial says that counsel is at the bench, jurors not back yet. Media section has cleared out pretty much except the die hards…

  187. Hey just wondering does anyone know why the detective is in the courtroom every day? I have never seen that before and it seems odd to have him be paid to sit in a trial and him not doing his job at the police station!! 🙂

    • I read that was a pretty normal thing in AZ for the detective to be with the prosecutor… Remember JUAN is a one man team, and FLORES does his dirty work digging up shit on the defense witnesses.

    • Probability works the afternoon shift, sits in court and collects his overtime.

    • Yes he deff does his dirty work!! And I think Arizona likes to waist money too!!

  188. just now…
    wildabouttrial says that counsel is headed back into chambers. Dr. G has left the building.

    • Thanks. I’m hoping that he left the building because he’s done testifying and not because court is over.

      Leave it up the judge to pull another “let’s recess the never come back” stunt yet again.

  189. I think Dr G looks like my dad and thought is was funny when I was trying to watch on HLN (had to turn it) and my son came in and said, Hey he looks like Papaw.

  190. Speaking of Hitler, I might acquit him if JM were the prosecutor…and Jack the Ripper…and possibly even the devil himself. Much less a beautiful young woman who got abused and played and attacked by narcissistic womanizing hypocrite. As a prosecutor Kermi blows balls.

  191. Agreed Carrie— Flores is about as useful as a potted plant in that courtroom…lol

  192. it’s either approach for a salad bar or chambers…..what is she hiding???????

  193. wildabouttrial says he just saw Dr. Horn come in…He may be next on the stand…

  194. I blame everything on the judge. JM is being his despicable unethical self because from day 1, she has allowed it. The basis for a mistrial is squarely on her shoulders.

  201. Judge Dread had a snack during break.. had a drink of water..and smacked her lips at Jodi!!

    Jodi is hanging in there though!

  203. Looks like Martinez could not get a new witness, had to get Horn back instead

  206. Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd we are back
    to The NeverEnding Trail
    with DR HORN to boot
    okay not sure if I can handle this shit any longer
    I need my life back

  210. Well this should be interesting. He already looks tired and embarrassed ….

  211. He needs to fix his testimony….and he is not going to sound any better, I can tell you.

  212. I slept throughout the break. 5 o’clock in the motning here people,so I apologize in advance if what I’ll be writing wont make much sense 🙂 🙂

    Damn,I still have a crush on K Horn,he’s so cute but I LOATHE HIM at the same time!

    • (((((Maria))))))) I’m so sorry you have had to be up all night….It looks like we are all on that road…..

      Hugs my friend….

      • (((((((((((hugs Janeen))))))))))))
        Im exhausted and have to be at work in a few hours but Jodi is No 1 Priority right now.

    • Maria, on one of the websites, he is called ‘Rob Lowe Horne’! 🙂

  214. Still more to come hln producer saying JM is calling back Dr Horn and this Dr Hayes.

  215. How do you fix your report when you already said it didn’t break the dura mater?

    • You must have missed it NH.
      Dr. Horn has been given permission to change his report and testimony as many times as it takes to get it to Martinez’s liking.

  220. I am tired and I have had breaks from watching the trail. Can you imagine how the jury and everyone else is feeling having to sit there the whole time??

  222. How the fuck did he take slices of the brain if it was the consistency of tapioca pudding?

  224. Wow, those people can’t look. They are gruesome that is for sure, but he doesn’t need to keep showing these pictures.

  225. hey jm quit leading the witness

    defense will need their forensic medical expert

    • I said this long ago!! This is so crucial! This man is making shit up that contradicts his report.

  227. Two tweets one says Kevin Horn is back on the stand and the other says Unreleased email exchange revealed.

  229. He has absolutely no tact when it comes to how he phrases. Tapioca pudding, yep keep saying it and offending the fam and then the jury watches as they over react and the Judge does nothing.

  234. How could it have been last action?????? He couldn’t hold his head up!!!!! His throat ( according to their theory) was cut!!!

  235. Any pathologist should/would see what he is describing microscopically.

  239. Omg they forget to say that low caliber rica shay and its more likely that a high caliber goes straight through!! This is so frustrating!!

  240. Oh wow I’m on HLN and JM is asking redirecting the doctor. HLN is going to drag this out until the sun comes up.

    • No I mean JW is redirecting the doctor. I’m sorry! I’m soooo sorry JW!!!!

      • They pause every 5 minutes!! I can’t stomach watching HLN, my blood pressure goes sky high!! 🙂

      • They pause every 5 minutes!! I can’t stomach watching HLN, my blood pressure goes sky high!! 🙁

      • I know HLNs the worst. They are very proud of themselves too that they are staying up all night to watch this trial. When really they are way behind other people who are watching the trial in other ways!

        • Very true, and they lie lie lie!! I swear I yell at the TV when watching them!! If anyone saw or heard me outside they would deff think I had anger management issues!! Lmao!! 🙂

  241. Oh the drama of the family/faux friends. If someone had checked on him in five f’n days he may have been autopsied before his brain turned to tapioca!!! How fake can you be?

  242. This testimony from Horn is useless as he has already impeached himself. And he doesn’t really keep his words straight.

  244. First, sorry for the delay, but thanks for the kindness, prayers, and support I was given a couple of weeks ago when I told y’all of my loss. Many times when I’ve been taking care of “stuff” I would think of the importance of the kindness of strangers at this time for me. That was you all and made a great difference for me. I’m kinda reclusive so no support network.

    now this trial…
    I’ve had enough. This is my first day ever to be able to watch all day and it was fine until the cross ex. started. I watched a bit, then researched borderline disorder, all the time listening on the live feed but not watching. And then I started researching stuff that encourages me to spend money. I’ve been depressed enough the last few weeks but that jerk-wad is tipping me over. Spending money that I don’t need to is a sure sign….although I really might get the Samsung Galaxy 2 7 ” tablet for $179. I think that’s a good price and much easier to carry outside to watch/listen while I work in the yard.
    of course, now JW is up again and I won’t turn it off until the one whose name is expletives starts up again.
    Thanks,again.

  245. OMG. This doctor is really screwed. He is likely tired because he can’t sleep at night.

  248. Over on the afternoon page, where I think Stan has been left all alone even though I told him everyone was here, he said HLN is reporting that Horn AND Hayes are yet to go this evening. Are they giving the jurors a dinner break I wonder?

  250. I am making some pudding tonight and guess what? I will serve it in slices.

  253. Hey guys and gals,
    I need your help!! I just got put of class (6-10pm eastern time), I’m on my way home and just checked my phone using the ustream feed and apparently the trial is still going on. I had no choice but to dvr record hln till 11 when I left so I can watch the trial. I last saw the beginning of cross. Is there any other way to watch what I missed other then hln that I’m recording? I’ll end up probably breaking my tv if I have to watch hln with commercials every 2 minutes plus there stupid commentary and f$%#ing Nancy disgrace!!!!

    Please save me from watching hln!!!!!!

  254. Why doesn’t she ask him about his statements regarding the dura????? Or did I miss it?

    • I agree. He doesn’t see people in the ER that are not incapacitated by a gun shot to the head!

  259. I still don’t understand how they are trying to sell a gunshot entering through the front of his head after he was dead if his eff’g throat was cut and he couldn’t lift his head??? Sorry to harp but geez

  262. On HLN they just said something that is kind of interesting. They said that keeping everyone there all night until they are done with witnesses is very expensive and very rare. Considering this judge hasn’t been on top of her game do you think she’ll get in trouble for this? At first they were skipping Fridays and taking half days and now she’s keeping everyone until who knows when.

    • It is VERY rare. And will definitely be a source for appeal. I think this is ridiculous. The atty’s will be exhausted for their closings, and the jurors can’t pay attention for more than 8 hours.

  264. I imagine Jodi is tired, not only tired for today, but tired of this whole trial. I also imagine she has imagined different scenarios for her future. My wish for her is this: I hope you are acquitted and quickly swept away from AZ. I hope you are moved to a place where you will find unconditional love, where every single lovely thought you ever had is brought into realization.

  266. What is with Martinez’s witnesses not doing any research or keeping up with it!

  268. Did you see Horn look over and wink!! yah boy.. you did good.. we will give you a pat on the head

  269. I hope SJ sees that Arizona Republic piece that was linked upthread about those emails from the Hugheses.

    The emails are damning, but the Hugheses now are spinning like tops trying to say it was all Jodi’s fault and that she manipulated them.

    They are so full of shit they will lie publicly and say who do you believe, us or your lying eyes.

    http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130430jodi-arias-trial-unreleased-e-mail-exchange-revealed.html?nclick_check=1

  272. Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    A juror paying attention to the dura mater testimony!!

  275. I hope I never have to see Doogie Howser again….he’s a lying sack of shit….

  286. 100 % of people he sees are dead
    lol
    he generally doesn’t do autopsies on living people

    • What was that question all about? Seems to me it was something like “Are 100% of people you see with frontal lobe shootings dead?” What were they getting at? Can anyone help me out here?

  291. Dura mater was a typo!

    Get a fucking life. There would have to have been.

    What a dick.

    Holy shit did you just see dickweed’s face after that.

    • Did you see the look on Jodi’s face when Willmott sat back down and wrote her a note? Do you suppose there will be a motion filed re: the ME’s testimony?

  295. What a crock of shit this is. Dr Doogie Houser says its a typographical error now????

  296. wonder how many other criminal cases went down due to typos . . I’d be callin my lawyer

  298. What? I have to go back & watch this from start. So what is Horn saying is injury to the brain now?

    • He was porky pig…bd bd bd tha tha that waas a ttttypppogrrapphic c c cal eer rror

      • I noticed there was a mistake in one of the defense motions, too. The wrong statute was written in the motion. Not a huge deal, ’cause with so many documents it can happen.

        Motion For Mistrial: Juror Misconduct filed on 3/31/13.

        Specifically, on page 2 of the Motion, under the heading “Memorandum of Points and Authorities”, first paragraph, third sentence it reads: “The noticed aggravator was A.R.S. 13-703(F)(6): That Ms. Arias committed the offense in an especially heinous or depraved manner.”

        A.R.S. 13-703(F)) (there is no subpart 6) is about “Repetitive offenders; sentencing” http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/00703.htm

        He meant: A.R.S. 13-751(F)(6) which deals with “Sentence of death or life imprisonment; aggravating and mitigating circumstances; definition”

        Now, I point this out only as a test to see if the media is reading this forum…

        • I should say not a huge deal for the defense, but certainly, in the ME’s report, in a capital case, a typo is huge.

          • Whatever…chris11
            The dura marter was intact…reviewed this report several times over SEVERAL years! This is HARDLY a TYPO! Comparing this to a motion with a numbers reference “typo” *and if I recall the motion was denied due to this*…apples and oranges! Reading “The dura mater is intact” written by the ME and in plain ENGLISH! not a reference number…The ME just forgot to change this tidbit while he was altering the rest of his report… NOT a TYPO! He is a liar. (or an idiot). Flores’ story didn’t match the ME’s altered report either…they forgot to get their “story” in synch and got caught.

            • Whatever, Dorothy. I didn’t make either of the errors. So please don’t insult me with your apathy.

              • Furthermore, this is another reason the death penalty should be abolished. Both sides can make errors, some serious, some not so serious. But when a human life is at stake, when the ultimate punishment is possible, attorneys, judges, juries, etc. should be damn sure they are crossing their T’s and dotting their I’s.

  299. Holy fuck if that little shit was my son!!.. well he wouldn’t be my son !!

    thats how they do it in Mesa folks!

    • If Jodi ever gets convicted, this case will be overturned with so many typos…wtf?

      • I was talking about Hayes. The pic on her web site makes her look like a sorority president in Animal House or something. I’m not one to be overly concerned with looks, but then there’s truth in advertising!

  307. I just had to share this. I wasn’t quick enough to get by Dr Drew and inadvertently heard him say “This guy is driving me crazy! He’s talking about areas that he knows little or nothing about.” Huh? Did I mishear you, Doctor F#ckface talking about someone getting into areas that they have no business venturing into. Isn’t that what you do every night, you stupid Waldo-looking metrosexual , wimpass, celeb rehab sucking nutjob?

    • I heard that too and I was like gee isn’t that your entire job Dr. Drew?

    • Lmao he needs to go to the mirror and slap the first person he sees!! He’s ignorant!! Lol

    • Maybe if Dr. Drew stuck to the subjects that he knows about, he wouldn’t have five dead patients!

    • lmao!!!!!!

      So true right?? Drew is the LAST person who should be pointing the finger at anyone else for talking about stuff they don’t know.

  308. Dr. Horn said that he just found out now that his report had a typographical error and that he made a mistake and left out the report of the dura mater of the brain was injured…

    • This testimony of him admitting that he made a typo error is important…

    • And you can bet he was forewarned about the problem before yesterday’s testimony. he was quite testy waiting for that to come up. I also found the first juror question quite comical. 100% of the people he deals with are dead! Ha! So obviously he cannot attest to patients who live thru such head traumas.

  309. ”I’m a former Miss Universe.I want World Peace.And I wish I had a brain”

  311. She doesn’t look anything like the picture on her website.

    Seems like she’s put on a bunch of weight. Not being mean, just saying.

  315. I wonder if she’s a republican…Kill ‘um all & let God sort um out!

  316. This ladies constant smirks are bothering me.
    Maybe I’m being biased without trying to be.

    She’s just bugging me already…

  317. Well I am so glad I hung in with this trial all day…..the medical examiner is unbelievable literally! A typo re the duromatter in tact? I don’t think so. His report is now inaccurate thanks to a very astute jury question. They are a smart crew….that jury. This is a most embarrassing thing for the prosecution.

    • Yes…I was totally surprised to hear him say that…Dr. Horn said that he just found out now that his report had a typographical error and that he made a mistake and left out the report of the dura mater and that the brain was injured…and he would have been incapacitated immediately…

      And Jennifer was good at making him repeat it several times for the record…I hope this comes back and bites him in the butt…

      But on the other hand…it seems like a lot of the witnesses are “fudging” things a lot and “back-peddling” what they testified to earlier…

  318. Jesus Christ! We are now going to ANOTHER Witness??

    I cant watch this any more!

  319. What the hell is girlfriend wearing….lose the pearls!!!

    What’s with all of JM witnesses take a year off????

      • Pat…Armstrong is a linoleum flooring company…sorry… bad joke…I’m tired (she graduated from Armstrong State College) I expect rotten tomatoes….

  321. Sj or someone can u upload parts of the evening testimony starting at cross so I don’t have to watch the last 4 hours of hln and continue all night!!!

    • Say what we might about this broad, if I were JM, I would have called her in my case in chief if were were down to her and TotDoc.

  326. This is bullshit for the judge to do this. These people should not have to be here because the judge cant run her courtroom.

  327. Going to have to stop watching. Hoping I can catch up by reading here tomorrow. Good night all.

  330. why do they all say “probably AROUND …..” NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY”VE DONE????

    • It’s not her fault. She wasn’t even given the materials to review in advance. JM is so confident in tot doc that he actually thinks this babe is going to come in and endorse her flawed methodology.

      • Oh my god, I take that back. I always try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Shows what I know.

  332. What is with the MAD rush to cram this ALL in NOW? I mean the judge was ho hum with “who cares about the time” all trial long…this is ridiculous! Had they been this efficient with their time all along, the trial would have been over with LONG ago! LIKE WTF?

  334. Wow it’s 7:25 Pacific Time here in CA

    I cannot believe I have been watching this since it started.

    Okay who else has hung in here all day??

    PS look how softly spoken JM is talking to her.
    He makes me physically ill
    and btw this blonde chick looks like another famewhore
    ans seems biased
    just my intuition and honestly
    at this point….
    the Jurors may have checked out with more of this
    psychological test stuff…

  337. I have to retype this! I got screwed up and it got posted on the wrong page. The dear doctor lied his ass off. If it was a typo he would have described the injury to the dura mater and he did not! Why did it take a juror to ask this question.

    • “If it was a typo he would have described the injury to the dura mater and he did not!”

      Absolutely! That was no typo. His demeanor changed when asked that question. And then he acts like he’s got to go back to the report to see what it says. That’s bullshit. You know that that has been pointed out to him before! That may piss the jury off, being lied to.

    • So far, I sort of like her. She seems honest. Martinez seems to be trying hard to get her to say what he wants her to say

    • Who effing knows…right now I doubt ANYONE even cares…after the ME just made a fool of himself…the credibility of the prosecution’s case has been destroyed

  339. That 2nd jury question was very telling we have at least one in our camp and Dr Horne just impeached himself— the chance of NO beyond a reasonable doubt is over! The jury cannot possibly in good conscience not consider this heavily that the ME report is faulty in more ways than one.

    • Yeah, she doesn’t seem too bad so far. I do respect the fact that she does work with victims of Katrina.

  347. I’m just DVRing HLN for the rest of the night. Let’s see if I DVR 8 hours of HLN I can catch up in ….. 2? 🙂 Well, I know I can catch up really fast anyway since it’s so slow w the commercials!

    Great day for Jodi!!! 🙂 I just feel bad she has to be up early to listen to JM tomorrow! UGG!

    Great points and thoughts guys!!!

  348. He’s desperate and she can’t figure out what to answer to please him half the time 🙂

  349. Good Night everybody. Gotta take the kids to AP class at 7 AM.

    Hold the fort folks, and smack JM around.

    As a passing joke:

    Why does JM wear a tie?
    To keep the foreskin from covering his face.

  350. I like Dr Horn’s blue eyes. I wouldn’t mind objectifying him, along with that coffee & cream guy from the other day who testified about the computers [I think},

  351. So what are the haters going to be saying about this witness? She didn’t do any testing or talk to Jodi either but that bothered them with Dr G

  352. I WANT TO REITERATE BECAUSE IT IS SOOOOO IMPORTANT. HORNE LIED ON THE STAND TWICE NOW AND IT SHOULD LEAD BY ITSELF TO A MISTRIAL. IF THE DURA MATER HAD BEEN PENETRATED HE WOULD HAVE DESCRIBED THE I JURY, IE LENGTH, IDTH, EDGES ETC. HE DID NOT DO THAT! HE HAD TO HAVE WRITTEN….THE DURA MATER WAS INTACT. PERIOD. BECAUSE IT WAS. YOU CANNOT ALLOW THIS TESTIMONY TO STAND!

    • I think that it is very important, you are right. The judge of course would not dare grant a mistrial, especially at this point in the trial. But, definitely another thing to add to the long list of issues to support an appeal if things get to that point.

    • I feel the same. Some one needs to pour through interviews, depositions and testimony and find a way to impeach him!

    • The fact that he did not take it seriously is very disturbing.Oh well, just a typo!

    • I know, that is what I have been saying too! His report also states there was no damage to the faux cerebri

    • Nancy, I think that’s why JW kept asking him if he was aware of the importance of the case. Even if the objection was sustained.

    • Yes that is exactly what I was thinking, thank you for saying it.

      Dr. Horn reminds me of a character from Sesame Street, scientists, I believe, Mr. Beeker, possible.

  360. I’m sure everyone in that motherhumping courtroom is on the verge of a mental meltdown. After watching Kermi’s public disintegration into madness with the nodding judge’s blessing, I bet they’re all medicated up on Valium just to prevent themselves from going into some sort of homicidal spree. I’m sure the smiles will get practically maniacal before the night is over.

  364. This whitness seems confused by each question and then goes on to seem insecure with her answers.

    • when she does fulfill and answer . . it’s almost the same as what Doc G already said earlier anyway but she says she disagrees .. smh

  365. JM will most likely nurse this so that Jennifer is over-exhausted and won’t be able to properly prepare for her closing statements…

    • Doubtful, she had five days to prepare………… plus JUAN goes tomorrow. And I believe it’s Nurmi that is doing closing…. not JW

      • thats a mistake. or is it.. just to hear Nurmis voice instead if the droning fuckface little weasal should at least make a couple of them wake up,, and forget HLN..humm

  367. Yup, Horn has caused a big problem IMO for the prosecution. I can’t believe that such a thing would happen in a death penalty case. I kept hearing that forensics is the most important thing…..well he just threw the forensics out of the window. Unbelievable. Just think, a long time ago the prosecutor was offered a plea deal by the defence and he turned it down, only to be embarrassed on the last day of testimony, by his own medical examiner. The universe does have a way of working as it should.

    • He was the most important witness in the trial, except for Jodi Arias, and he completely and totally fucked up.

      Jodi Arias should be acquitted just on this. Horn was that bad.

      EVERYTHING is gone because Horn committed perjury in order to fit in with Martinez’s theory.

  368. If JM was so confident in that Demented chick, why is he using Hayes for this rebuttal?

    re-buttal, sur-rebuttal…there’s so much butt in this case is starting to smell like ass.

  370. Seriously her eyes are freaking me out…. Maybe it’s my feed? It looks like the light is hurting her eyes one min and then she is blinking something out of her eye.

    Her testimony sounds like JM called her and said listen, this is what I need to rebut, can u help me get there

  371. Exactly Sil— he knows Tot Doc was not convicing in the least and came across as haughty and biased

  372. Is smarmy Marty running out of steam?
    This lady is putting me to sleep. This is all pointless. End this shit now! Damn that idiot judge, she is senile!

    GO JODI GO! WE LOVE YOU!!

  373. Det Flores lied to Jodi about recording devices being on. He set the atmosphere. I’m curious as to what % of accused lie initially to detectives.

    • That’s right Phillip, Flores even told Jodi he was telling her lies. (recording devices and about what pictures they recovered) I’ve been in alot of interrogations and well yes, did bend the truth but never outright lied and surely never said we lied. That’s just wrong.

    • number one,, never talk to the cops..let them talk.. remember there are cameas all over the cop shop..
      be polite.. and hope they don;at beat the shit out of you..cameras or not

  376. Since the ME committed perjury on the stand and tried to cover his ass, Jodi Arias should be acquitted on that alone.

    The medical examiner was the most important witness for the prosecution, even more important than Flores, and he fucked up royally.

    He should just stick to emptying bedpans.

  377. remember at the pre-trial meeting between jm and samuels how jm harassed samuels to change his testimony for trial

    arizona law de facto ignores witness intimidation
    not so the federal law, where witness intimidation gets decades in the slammer

    looks like with that background in prosecutorial intimidation this obviously pre-screened compliant foresenic psychologist has no credibility

  379. What point is he trying to make if he throws out Dr. Samuels for relying on tests then he is also throwing out Janeen who only conducted tests?

  383. Hey JM, ask her is she read Journal entry after Journal entry if she would still give the test?

  384. So he is back to AL and Dr.Samuels diagnosis ,testimony…….Dr Demarte only spent 12 hrs with JA.

  387. Excuse my language but how the fuck do you get over 2 fucking hours behind something.. hate hln!!

    I must b honest though I understand what they r doing (I’m in the field) but trying to keep there ratings high like this will bite them bad.. all these commercials from paying advertisers will dry up after this case and everyone with half a brain will avoid hln cuz of this bullshit. And it will hurt them bad. All the money they r making now from the trial will dry up quick and they will be fucked.

    Its interesting that fox or nbc haven’t used one of there sub channels to do the same… oh that’s right.. they know it would fuck them in the long run! Cnn has always been in last place.. this is just another reason 😉

  388. You’ve got to be kidding me!!! Jodi was in 12 grade lever reading…this is insane !!!

  391. In Dr horn’s autopsy he
    must have “made an error ” on page 4 of his report as well as page seven.

    • She has journals texts and emails and a high IQ… This bimbo obviously doesn’t have a high IQ!!

      • I’m pretty sure I don’t have. An IQ of 112 or higher but I know I can read like a champ!! And Jodi loves to write journals so I don’t understand this argument and what it has to do with this trial!!

  394. i’m so tired BUT what the ever-ing love of hell with giving Jodi a reading test! I can’t take the ridiculous pro prosecution people. GO Jen 🙂 and hi everyone here! i love you all xoxo

  396. I think this is total waste of time. And does she have hearing problem, or not paying attention. She looks like she doesn’t want to be there either.

  397. Although not as mechanical as DuhMarte…she is getting SNOTTY with JW and she needs a bitchslap….

  398. I don’t care that much about this TSI1 or 2 issue. It does seem like there were a lot of changes in the updated one, but eh…doesn’t do much for me as a significant point.

    • I agree. The question I have though is why TotDoc didn’t just say that she used the older test b/c Dr. Karp (sp?) did so she could compare the results.

      • Because she is so much smarter because she is younger? and so up to date that she is a Stepford Wife for the lds,, ???

  399. She’s so full of SHIT…. that’s a pathetic EXCUSE…….. the test was updated…. not a new test, so the peer reviewed is already there.

  400. if you cannot afford to get the RIGHT equipment – HOW DARE YOU TESTIFY AS AN EXPERT???

    • Yes, for a death penalty case at that.

      Is human life so cheap, people aren’t willing to shell out 200$ to get the right test?

      They’re being paid 300$ an hour. It’s not like they can’t afford it.

  403. Lord help meeeeeeeee, is there somewhere else to watch this trial?????????????????????????

  405. Drink some water jackass to flush down your foot…..

    WILMOTT ROCKS!!!! LOL

  406. If you can’t afford 200 dollars for the test maybe you don’t have enough clients.

  407. OMG updated tests cost too much .. well what the hell kinda price put on Jodis life. $200 bux geeze, whatta chep ho she’s turned out to be

  408. I’m bummed JW spending time on this; there is actually a good reason to have given Jodi TSI1 – she was given it 1.5yr before, so better datawise to be able to compare the two tests.

  410. This blonde dumb bitch is seriously getting on my fucking
    last nerve!!!!!

    • HA HA HA HA HA….. snotty bitch………… she only knows this because JUAN prepped her……….. What a wait of time and money…. GIVE IT JENN, you had awesome witness earlier.

  412. You think she could afford better looking clothes!!!!!!! That suit is from Ross for Less!!!!!

    • Exactly and she worked for a huge psychological mental health company. Also, she was being paid 250/300 per hour to testify, so just charged to the state…………

      • Just the time she billed for giving Jodi the reading test would have covered the expense.

  415. Is it just me or does NG make anyone else wanna slap her in the face with AK-47 bullets at a high rate of speed repeatedly??!! Smh!!! Pfft

  416. This girl is right out of the JM school of trial prep.. just a crock of shit!

    Jenny.. please get her!

    • And while Jen is at it plz ask if all the gals in their field have that throaty growl and down volume on the last word of a sentence like a phoney aristocrat. If she was in a conversation with me my head would be tilted and jaw dropped in one of “those looks” back at her. like are you for real lol

  417. Frasier Crane can diagnose patients better than this wanna-be barbie doll……

  418. She is a Miss know it all and snotty and is probably Demartes BFF!!!

  423. WTF ever……… everyone lies during their life. Doesn’t matter whether it was a Polar Bear or a Brown Bear it was a FK BEAR attack….. it’s stilla FK trauma

    • Not everybody lies under oath. Too bad this witness has been coached to do so.

  429. LOL .. I don’t hear her anymore because of the “erhhhh” throaty thing is too distracting, so loving all your comments

  433. I know comcast is going to owe me a refund on my Internet bill. I just lost service again. It has been out for 7 years.

  434. Finally, I’m catching up.

    The jury is asking fabulous questions…the best I’ve heard so far. There might not be many questions, but the ones that are coming are on target and lending to the defense to get gain some good ground. As much of a good job Jen W is doing, the jury (whoever is asking the questions tonight) is right on top of their game too. WOW.

    The question of the L scale on the MMPI is what I’ve been waiting to see come out. Well, I know it wasn’t a direct question exactly asking about the L scale, but Dr. G sure did get it out there. As many have discussed here, the MMPI is a widely used, highly recognized, extremely reputable tool for measuring personality characteristics (and gives a good glimpse into other facets of the psyche). The question by the jury to have Dr G discuss it was GREAT. Dr G actually explaining the scales was very good for the defense, and he did it better so far than any of the experts. Totally blew Tot Doc away and made it very clear and concise enough for the layman to get. It shows that Jodi was in fact honest. It’s hard to believe that it took so long to get that out.

    It seems like a small deal to some, but I know that the jury will catch that one and ruminate on that for at least a good bit. I know if I were a juror, I would anyway. The honesty issue has been such a big deal…now it’s up to the juror to find Dr. G credible, which I think they will. He did a great job, despite Juanita Napoleon’s display of ignorance. Dr. G spilled his water, then made a great comeback. He wasn’t letting Juanita take him down. Woo hoo. I also loved how he kept pointing out what everyone, including God has to see….his two way trickery questions. I know the jury sees that trickery also. Things are looking up, folks. Not that things have been bad anyway, imo. Juanita looked like a bigger douchebag than usual tonight.

    Also, Dr. G did a great job discussing the frontal lobe and parietal lobes and how Travis was most likely not incapacitated by the gunshot.

    I know I am way behind…HLN is what I’m sadly watching…it’s driving me batty. I hope the aforementioned sticks and Juanita Napoleon doesn’t whip up another confusion twister (or at least try–since the jury is seemingly paying very close attention). I know I am rambling….just been waiting for that for days. I was actually getting greatly disappointed because I knew that would help. Whew…every little bit counts when an innocent woman’s life is on the line.

  438. Um….No Massengil – YOU THOUGHT THE FIGURE IN TA’S EYE WAS A GOPHER YOU ASSHOLE…

  442. So let me get this straight. In Arizona, the prosecutor is allowed to be an aggressive fact-twisting bully, ME’s can lie, experts don’t really have to be experts…they can just be inexperienced or broke ass snotty bitches, judge’s can occupy space on the bench showing obvious bias toward the prosecution and jurors can roam freely through a rabid public where the trial is televised nightly? I say let’s sever all ties with AZ now…kick em to the curb. They should no longer be a part of the US.

  443. Get the bitch off the stand…………….Sorry I am done LOL – bet the jury is done as well.

  446. I’m pretty sure both the prosecution’s and JA’s version of events that night would have been traumatic for Jodi, since in both scenarios Jodi killed TA, which would have no doubt been traumatic.

    • YEAH, we are at the end of the road……………….. Pray for Jodi’s FREEDOM. Now it gets nerve racking for all of us as we wait for closing statements.

      • The Defense worked very hard for Jodi. Martinez was full of BS. He just threw rocks.

    • seek! I feel REALLY positive! Couldn’t have ended any better that today! It was a glorious day for our JODI! Hip, Hip, Hooray!!!

    • yes she was,, a moot point in an overcharged trial that was used to inflame the public

      a trial that should never have gotten to this point with media manipulaton ..however this trial has proven that people would rather be entertained, indifferent because of the obvious ,,or looking for the truth..

      Jodi will not die!~ I promise..

  456. You ever notice when they say “Please stand for the jury” , the judge never stands. Seems a bit hypocritical.

    • They are not supposed to. A normal judge is the monarch of his courtroom and rises for no one. I don’t know what to say about Stephens. Maybe she won’t rise for the jury because she’d have to take a break from kissing JM’s ass?

      • Yes, you are correct and I do know they don’t stand. I was merely pointing it out as absurdity. The judge should actually give the jury a standing O for putting up with JM so long.

        • Judges are GODs, in their opinion, everyone has to stand for them. I am not a fan of judges and how the whole system works. They are attorneys who have mostly been elected and it is all a political thing and who trusts our politicians.

  457. I want jm to add ground hog to the mix and tear the lil bastard to shreds for lies about winter lol

  458. I am at a loss for what the hell the purpose of the wanna-be barbie doll was??!??!?

  460. No questions for her!

    I can’t believe I watched the whole thing.

    Goodnight everyone.

  461. I’m calling BS, I am a chronic back pain patient. I am NOT one you see all the time because I had acute lymphocytic leukemia stage four when it was found, that means it was all over me. Just because I have chronic back pain because I’ve been stuck in my spine over 17 times and had like 17 bone marrow aspirations at the same time, does NOT mean that I have BPD

    • I doubt that study said anything like a connection between chronic pain/illness & BPD. That was totally misinterpreted by this gal & JM. You got some serious stuff, sorry to hear it. How are you doing?

    • Thanks cj. I was going to post something similar to this as I am a chronic pain patient as well, and I know several other CPPs, none with a BPD diagnosis. Also, I’ve never heard of any connection between being a CPP and having BPD.

    • I have been diagnosed with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis( CFS) and Fibromyalgia. The pain has been chronic for 7 years, I was 32 when it started. The pain is very real, yet I look normal. This lady is a nut.

      • I also have osteoarthritis in hips and DDD in spine with a fused vertebral block from T10-12 ( congenital)

    • I have fibromyalgia, I’m diabetic and three years ago I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I live with pain on a daily basis and anyone who has the nerve to tell me I’m BPD, I will smack them so hard their extended family will feel it!

      I don’t for one minute believe that study says what that blonde bimbo is implying!

      • Hi fellow chronic pain sufferers.. realize one thing.. the pharmasutacle companys pays these dip shits to come up with some psychomatic illness to get us on more of their meds.. think about that!

    • Brenda, I was pondering on the same thing, JUAN for 6 hours screaming at the juror…. don’t know if I can take that tomorrow. Seems like they could break it into morning and afternoon….. no point in beating a dead horse…….. just get to the facts and evidence and call it a day.

    • I was thinking that too, especially a president (ex-president?) of a division of the APA in her general area!

  467. Okay…gonna go watch reruns of NCIS!!!!! Talk to y’all in the morning!! ((((((HUGS)))))

  468. I tell you what, If I got attacked by a bear, tiger or gopher. It is still going to hurt like Hell and the doctor is going to treat those wounds the same.

    • a mouse, spider or snake should enter under the stand at her feet, bet she scream like it’s a bear

    • Annie,

      You know what? Your still going to have tramua from those injuries. She was pathetic excuse for psychologist witness, and she’s been in the field 14 years. What a disgrace to the APA…..

        • Hell yeah, she back that bitch right up….. and as you see she’s always hired by the prosecutors not the defense which speaks volumes to me about a person.

    • Annie,

      I just asked my friend if you got attacked by a bear or a tiger would you have the same tramua, his response ” FK I would be dead, so no tramua.:) that’s a man for you..

    • Gophers can be mean little fuckers! Ok I’m not really sure about that, but raccoons can.

      • not gophers.. raccoons well one actually took a pbj sammi out of my baby sons hand once!.. They are smart but don’t attack… unlike weasles..

      • Anything for four legs and teeth coming at you can be ” mean little fk-ers….. don’t forget the german sherpard, Mexian ankle bitter.

  470. Good night fellow friends…..

    Everyone get some rest……..

    Sleep well.

  472. don’t know what her purpose was but she semi impeached Demarte and was not effective at anything he was trying to do with her.

  474. She implied that counting before licensure as years experience as a clinician etc is NOT something she would do. Essentially Baby Doc plumped up her CV making herself look more experienced to be an “expert” in this case.

    • I was wondering about that…it sounded like that was going to help the defense rather than the prosecution…

    • She surely did. I almost fell over laughing when she was talking about her poster board presentations. Good grief. Those have always reminded me of not much more than high school cut and paste science projects and she actually had that on her CV. Just for starters…

      • I was thinking maybe I would rewrite my resume and take out my published cases and put in my 6th grade science fair project.

    • Yep, and she wasn’t a licensed psychologist until 2010 making it three years to practice. The year she claimed to want more experience is because she needed clinicial hours before taking the board …… Called her out on that on day one……….. LIAR so what else did she LIE about?

    • everything in those emails was exactly what happened. Travis the user and abuser. I curse the Hughes for lying that this was all because of manipulations from Jodi. That is a fucking crock of shit and they know it. They called it then exactly how Jodi is now saying what happened to her.

  476. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I missed the very end! Pleaseeeeeeeeeee fill me IN

  477. Reading over the emails that DIDN’T make it into evidence, I find some things very interesting:

    http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130430jodi-arias-trial-unreleased-e-mail-exchange-revealed.html

    Travis: “I don’t know if it has ever been easier to be nice to someone as it is with Jodi.”

    Sounds like he actively had to remind himself to be nice to people because it wasn’t his default personality.

    Sky the Cow: “She was being treated horribly, you weren’t beating her physically, but you were emotionally,”

    Mmm hmm…deny it now, you bitch, but you said it!

    “Travis, with love, you are a heart predator. You take great joy in making women fall for the T-dogg. You laugh about what you can get away with. It would scare me to death if my little sister liked you, in fact I wouldn’t allow it.”

    Wow, he sounded charming. His asshole friends knew this about him, but they’re whitewashing it now.

    “I told her that she is filling the physical spot that Deanna doesn’t. But Deanna fulfills everything else for you. That is not to say you don’t enjoy talking to Jodi. But with Deanna fulfilling all but physical needs, and with Jodi fulfilling the physical, you feel fulfilled.”

    We now know that Deanna WAS fulfilling physical needs! More proof that Travis lied to everyone.

    From the article:

    In April 2007, Hughes and his wife had a falling out with Arias after they caught her twice eavesdropping on conversations they had with Alexander, he said.

    Maybe you shouldn’t discuss people behind their backs when they’re in your house, you prick!

    • I hope they put PDF copies of the emails so we can read them in their entirety.

    • “Travis, with love, you are a heart predator. You take great joy in making women fall for the T-dogg. You laugh about what you can get away with. It would scare me to death if my little sister liked you, in fact I wouldn’t allow it.”

      Yeah, this doesn’t sound like a statement she would make just because Jodi told her some lies about TA, like Sky is now claiming the reason she said these things. She refers to multiple ‘women’ in this statement and it sounds like she knows this is TA’s typical pattern. But now she is turning around and saying she wrote these things only based off lies that JA told her. Yeah, right.

  478. closing arguments start tomorrow ?
    no interveneing gap for both sides to prepare their closing arguments ?
    prosecution first i suppose
    if so, defense on friday, or next week, which would be better for the defense — more time, including the weekend to prepare

    • I’m sure they’ve been working on their closings for months now.

      It goes: Prosecution – Defense – Prosecution.

      • So Kira I can just not bother with the first half of the day? I can do without JM…

        • i suspect jm’s close will be loaded with moralistic statements, not religious

          jm doesn’t do well with psychology, so he’ll surely screw it up

          were there mormon’s on the jury ?

          • Mesa has a thrid of the pop Mormon..I believe.. now that prolly doesn’t count those beholden to the higharchy

      • thanks
        as far as jw working on the closing perhaps not much as the day to day demands on her during this last part of the trial have been immense, and final evidence that emerged was somewhat unpredictable

        it would have been difficult for jw to also participate much in preparing for the closing, and get some sleep

        kn’s probably been working on that and will do the closing

        the defense needed a lot more resources for such a long trial
        resources = money, millions, for a team of lawyers, investigators, office staff etc

        the prosecution surely had a backroom team, of lawyers etc watching tv and strategizing

        jm was clearly panicing from dr g’s testimony; his shreiking cross showed panic

  480. After the last testimony, Jodi looked very dejected and ready for the inevitable. The thing is, no one and I do mean no one, knows what the jurors are thinking or what they will find at this point. It is not over till it’s over.

    • Debbie, I feel quite confident that things will be okay. I just have this inner peace.

    • Debbie,

      You are so correct. That’s the scary part………….. I have a lot of faith they will make the right verdict in this case.

      especially since Dr. Horn fk-ed up big time.

      • I can’t believe he expects anyone to believe that was a typo. Don’t you figure how important this cause was every i and t was checked !

        • I am not buying that for a minute… and his expressions was like ” Oh well life goes on” attitude. He could care less, and how many times has he gone of his report? or JUAN…..

          Pathetic excuse for ME…………

          • Even if it was a typo.. not that I believe that.. would that not put his whole exam to question?? I mean if he messed up on that, he probably messed up on other things. I just can’t get over how much junk was allowed to go on in this courtroom.

            • You Betcha, and he doesn’t keep up with up to date research, find that a little odd coming from a doctor. But then again these folks in AZ think they are the shit in their fields.

              Makes you really question his ability as a ME, and he surely didn’t want to be there tonight…. his facial expressions proved that.

            • There is enough reasonable doubt there to drive a whole fleet of semis through.

              This was a monumental fuck-up for the prosecution. Horn committed perjury and was trying to cover his ass.

              As I mentioned before, Horn was the most important witness of the entire trial except for Jodi Arias. His fuck-up should result in an acquittal.

              • Tonya,

                I agree that he was / should of been a key witness for the prosecution, but he fk-ed it huge tonight………. AQUITTAL would FANTASTIC, but I don’t forsee that happening. Wish JW was doing closing arugements, and not KN.

                • I believe it “should” result in an acquittal, but that doesn’t mean it WILL.

      • I saw that FUJuan. I was sooooo impressed when he said it was a typo….. after stating five other times that the dura mater was in tact.. When he showed up on the stand it looked like he either had been crying or was ready to, his eyes were so red! Dr. G was right and he damn well knew it!

  481. C’mon guys…Who was listening to that last witness? ANYBODY?…I honestly didn’t listen to a word she said (confession time)

    • I don’t think the jury listened either, they couldn’t even be bothered to ask her any questions.

    • She basically just backed up DeMarte testimony. You didn’t miss anything…. she stumbled for words, didn’t hold a candle stick to the defenses psychologist today.

      • i forget what it was but jw caught blonde out in a big error

        it was something about a handscored test and how some derivative analysis was NOT possible

        dr g had earlier said it was

        i think she smiled,or maybe smirked, a bit, and put it aside for the closing

        • lol.. that was si blatanly rehearsed,,

          at this point the juriors are totally aslpeap.or sopissed off at die furheur and Judge Dread ..that she could confess to being part of the blood atonement..ha.. and HLN wiil say she is the second coming of Nancy DisGrace..

    • Dorothy, you got me. I didn’t pay attention at all. I thought she was testifying in morse code or something. Her blinking was annoying.

      • LOL Sil, I’d type out Morse code for “Lying and tigers and bears” but I’m too tired. 😯

        • the tiger, bear, gopher, example was a fizzle for the prosecution

          as was blondie and demented’s one lie and you’re out

          sounded like chrisian fundamentalism
          god knows if you lie
          and one lie is the same as a million lies
          paraphrasing mr god

  483. Ok.. I really need to stop reading the comments under Beth Karas updates!!! All it does is make me mad. Jodi has admitted to a killing that I really can’t understand how she even done it, she offered to plead guilty and keep from going through all this. But know JM wanted her life. While reading I see where someone put, beware of the trolls ( apparently that would be us, the ones that don’t believe she should die for this crime) they will be out and about now.

    • Ok.. tired and I made a few errors in this, but I think everyone can figure it out.

    • I sleep well knowing in my heart that I did not cast any stones to Jodi Arias, because I too have come up short of living a perfect life.

      • I meant physically able to do it. I just don’t see that she was able to physically pull all of it off

    • Yes Crystal, you should stop reading that feed and reading/watching anything else that makes you mad (comments on hater sites, watching HLN, etc). I stopped doing those things and now just read the posts and comments here and only watch the trial via the live feed posted here. You will find that your day flows a lot nicer without all the anger, at least I did. Now I only find myself getting mad on the occasion when trolls come here to post (which it isn’t very often a troll sneaks through, but it does happen) and when it’s JM’s turn to ask questions (and I turn off the live feed if he makes me too angry). I’m not familiar with Beth Karas and if you are reffering to twitter updates from her or what, but I suggest at the very least trying to find someone who does updates who has a more neutral point of view.

  484. I fucking hate you Martinez.

    Haven’t you done enough to LaViolette that you couldn’t resist one more dig at her?

    I hope your mouth fuses shut in your sleep, you sorry excuse piece of shit.

  485. Oh, and SCREW YOU Judge Stephens for allowing his abusive bullshit in YOUR courtroom.

    May you both rot in the outer planes of darkness for a thousand eternities.

    • She should never allow this type of behavior. Screw her good!! She is a total waste of space. She is unethical big time.

  487. Today, Dr. Geffner won the case for the defense. While it is not the job of the defense to prove anything, this very experienced doctor actually explained how the gunshot’s bullet trajectory through Travis’s head did not stop him in anyway from continuing his attack, thus forcing Jodi to defend herself further from this fiend. I hope everyone was listening in the jury box. The medical examiner’s report didn’t even detail crucial brain details which Ms. Willmott adequately caught on cross. Did he leave out crucial details on purpose? This was a banner day for the defense. Jodi might actually be found not guilty, or the jury might be hung.

    • He won’t show a picture of TA’s right foot nor his forearms. He us hiding so much.

      • Phillip,

        Dont you think they took photos of his entire body, every inch? Where are the other 90 photos that were on the camera? Maybe Juan is holding out until tomorrow to show all the photos of TA body. Nothing suprises me with this jerk off.

        • On the supposed dragging photo I don’t believe that TA’s right foot would have such a big gap between the big toe and the second toe. I feel like that photo is taken parallel to the tub with TAs head near the toilet entrance and he was shot midway thru the struggle. I think by wrestling knowledge he was potentially choking 2attackers, one with his left arm and another with both legs. The body had major damage and would send blood to coagulate to the bigger of the wounds and since the head shot wasn’t as vital as the superior venal cava, the head shot didn’t or wouldn’t hemorrhage. They are tunnel visioned on the shot being first or last, but what about midway, ballistics is not a definite science.

        • I think your right. I believe he us going to use the feet & legs photos in his closing, implying they are stomp bruises. He’ll want save something to shock & awe

          • Blood was not covering the entire leg just the tops…because he had someone in a leg to neck choke hold. Trust me once set properly a choke hold is certain death.

            • of course the weasle will use photes to shock and awe.. that is a given.. but have tghe photes been introduced into evidence> has a real me looked at them? No.. that trickster will have a shocking finial agrument.and whats worse he will have the last say

              I know that there are at least two juriors who will not cave to this injustice!

  488. I can’t tell you all how DISGUSTING this is.

    The State of AZ has ALLOWED their employees via the courts to badger, harass, abuse, and defame the most decent, wonderful people I have ever seen in my life (aside from the lovely personalities at this blog) and all on the taxpayer dime.

    How DARE THEY not lift one finger to ensure that the livelihoods of defense experts are not ruined because they testified in a court of law. That’s part of the CONSTITUTION you morons – remember that piece of paper you swore an oath to uphold as representatives of the State? Right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, presumption of innocence, a fair trial, ect ect and so forth?

    Or does that just exist THEORETICALLY in your puny, small minded little world?

  489. Oh and by the way I want to apologize to the outer planes of darkness for banishing the judge and her bootlicking sidekick there. Even the outer planes of darkness doesn’t deserve to be tortured with the presence of such hideously unscrupulous people.

  490. Jen hit a triple! Rebutted BPD, made Horn look really bad and gave credibility to AL evaluation! Slam bam!

  491. HLN just needs to go off the air. They are one silly, pathetic operation. Not a lot of good karma there after this trial. I think overall, most people are sick of them, too. They have become the laughing stock of the media. The stories in the National Enquirer have more credibility. They are a bunch of smarmy weirdos. Dr. Doo should have his license revoked.

  492. Best Day for The Defense!

    DR G rocked and was amazing! He showed some humanity
    in this circus of freaks.

    Loved Dr Horn’s OOOOOPS I effed up moment that will
    definitely come back to bite him on the ass.

    JM just acted like an incoherent Raggedy Andy on crack and
    and painted a portrait of a prosecutor becoming unhinged.

    JW kudos to her for a grueling long ass epic day & she
    did a stellar job as always. I will miss her.

    The Judge, she’s a robot and I cannot wait to never see her face again.

    Good Luck Jodi, we are all praying and sending you good vibes
    no matter what happens.

    I can only have faith the jurors come to the right & logical decision.

    Good Night everyone, you guys are awesome as always!

    • She ALWAYS pisses me off. I can not recall a day going by when she was EVER fair and unbiased. I don’t get it.

        • Not “whatever”, Dorothy stated her opinion which, in case you didn’t know, is allowed on here. The judge should be fair and let’s be honest here, that was not how she was behaving. Even some attorneys on HLN commented about her bias.

    • I try to give her the benefit of doubt but she drives me crazy when she let JM open doors & go off any direction he pleases.

    • No shit MB.
      He has no more straws to reach for, so he just keeps using the same tactics OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

      Enough already.

  495. Rose Madder by Stephen King…. (Not a quote but it remains the same)
    Some beasts have to be dealt with.

  498. can’t help but note that this site has devolved to nothing but foul language, name calling and assassinating the characther of the murder victim. just sad.

    • The only person who assassinated the character of the victim was the victim himself.

      You are on the wrong board.

    • This site Laura? Nothing but foul language? I have seen more than usual tonight, but I have seen a lot of positive statements and people using reason. one of the things I appreciate about this site is that when they choose to use colorful language they tend to code it, and since IDK the codes I can miss it. but I am hoping you were talking about another site. I have noticed on other sites the foul language is extreme.

    • Laura, have you seen youtube lately? The Jodi haters have flagged any comment that makes any sense, the language is horrible, and they are all regressing back to the days of a mob burning someone at the stake before their trial is even over. If they had their way they would have just found her guilty without hearing any evidence. Some say it is travis’s family doing most of it, if that is the case, shame on them all.

    • Oh, and your pro-pros boards are lily-white with no name calling, foul language, and insults directed toward the INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY defendant?

      Go away.

    • I don’t know what the fuck you’re fucking talking about!

      Ha!
      Don’t like it? You can leave then!

    • Clearly sth was wrong and that Dr is forced to spew lies!!! His demeanor is wayyyyy different today thatn the previous 2 times.He is humiliated!!!

    • And why are you here?

      Your hero ME totally screwed up, committed perjury.

      Dr. Geffner was and is qualified and more qualified than that perjuring quack Kevin Horn.

    • Great question. Hope someone here might be able to offer some theories. Maybe MEs are expensive and the defense didn’t have the funds?

      • No, Laura thinks we should discount Geffner’s testimony because he is not an ME or MD.

        This despite the fact Kevin Horn is a perjurer and fatally damaged the prosecution’s case, or should, unless the jury is full of dolts.

        • It should be obvious to everyone that Horn is a liar and a corrupt puppet for JM and the state. Geffner was believable in explaning the bullet trajectory even though this isn’t his area of expertise. I just wish the defense had delved more into comparing the forensic evidence with another opinion to so there would be less doubt that Jodi acted in self-defense. Another ME would have kept Horn in check.

        • Yes, this ME totally sunk the sinking ship tonight. Jaun did the rest of the damage when he closed his case without any evidence of premeditation. There was no evidence for premed, only Jauns assumptions.

          • yes the prosecutors ass um p tion is correct! and meets all the data points..

  501. i think as far as the judge is concerned is that juan doesn’t have shit other then she had gas cans, she turned her license plate upside down, and someone broke into jodi’s gramma’s house and stole a gun that’s the same as she supposedly “used”. NONE of these prove guilty without a shadow of doubt. Yes put those factors in and think nothing but that, but ultimately it all means the same. Its not enough. The only thing that circumstantial evidence proves is that Jodi’s defense “may” have discrepancies

    What drew me and im sure a thousand others is, why did someone that beautiful do something so fucked up. Its not logical. What no one points out is all the ugly women charged with the same shit walk away free. Women get pushed all the time. Sometimes they fight back. Jodi is innocent beyond a reasonable doubt forever and always in my eyes, because until you’ve been there you don’t know. It’s all fun and games when you are playing the “If that happened to me”. When you are in the situation, all rules are lost. It’s not flight or fight, It’s live or die. Shit went wrong, he got froggy he went into rage mode she went into better you then me mode.

    We all have animal instincts and they will take over. His did, then hers did.

    • I think you mean premeditation rather than guilt. Jodi admitted to killing Travis; the only things the jury will decide are the degree of guilt and the penalty, if any.

    • bless you honey,, that is exaclty what this is about..and those who have never experienced almost dieing by someone they love will never understand

  502. Her facial expressions are disconcerting BUT for now I am chalking them up to nervousness.

    She seems a lot more mature and pleasant than DeMarte. Still a little condescending though.

    But she’s peddling the prosecution bullshit that once a lie, always a liar.

    I’m sure she’s told lies in her life at sometime, so by that logic we shouldn’t believe her either.

    • JM started off asking one thing and when she didn’t answer the way he wanted he keeps asking questions that are more generalized until she answers how he wants. By that point though the question is so general it isn’t even relevant to the original point he was trying to make.

    • True MB.
      I probably spoke too soon, but her expressions definately got me at first.

    • The taxpayers are paying for the defense witnesses because this is a criminal case and she is indigent. Their resources are not unlimited. All defendants put in jeopardy of imprisonment are entitled to counsel. Do you think that she wouldn’t be represented by a state funded lawyer if this weren’t a capital case?

    • As well as the prosecutions stunod!! Including the lieing ME and there pried and joy Dr. Departs who can’t even understand test scores..

    • They have a budget they have to stay within. The burden of proof is on the prosecution side. I think the defense feels Horn’s testimony has waffled so many time and has major problems.

    • Laura, please don’t waste our time and yours. Go back, make your report to your fellow hater clan. Arrivederla. Don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out. pfft

    • and your taxpayers are paying for the four month obstruction of justice that the city of mesa. her prosecutor and the police department that has been bought body and soul by the lds pyramid!

    • Jodi tried to plead to Murder 2, and your dildo with a heart beat “Juan” said no, and wanted this to go to trial! DID YOU HEAR THAT?! It is JUAN’S FAULT that the taxpayers are paying for this! He wanted this dog and pony show, not Jodi! What do you say to THAT?!

  505. Are they really having the rest of the trial Thursday and Friday?
    I hope the judge is REALLY happy what she wanted.
    She will fall asleep tonight. lol

  506. the taxpayers are in arizona are paying for this media based case. If she was a mexican 50 yr old woman there would be no case.

  507. Well the screaming demon will be up first tomorrow in I am sure full melodramatic mode to make up for how bad today was for his case. I intend to listen to every word from this monster and then I want him to be forced to undergo anger management classes before he tries another important case and to never hear from him again.

    I have never seen anyone who’s temperament was this ill suited for his chosen field. He’s a vengence seeker not a truth and justice seeker.

    • I hope we all get a chance to speak when it’s time for the victim’s impact statements 😉 😉

      Most likely we’d all test out positive for PTSD from the trauma and non-stop emotional and verbal abuse inflicted upon us over these weeks by the tiny, shrieking, angry, women hating man.

      • little man martinez pokes fun at himself to an over qualfied expert in psy to win his case!

        huh

  508. btw laura if this site offends you get the fuck off it. no one wants to hear the negativity, this site was made to be away from negative nags

  509. I don’t dislike this witness. I don’t like her either. Why should I, knowing that she’s helping with the effort to put Jodi to death.

    I am not riveted either. I find myself tuning her out, and nodding my head saying “yadda yadda” in my mind because she’s parroting the pro pros propaganda. Nothing new there.

    Her facial expressions are still a nuisance. And her posture is defensive like “Yeah what of it”?

    At least she is not unbearable. She may put us all to sleep, but at least she’s not unbearable.

  510. This doc came off as very credible..not there to get rich..and knows his shiat. Martinez looked like a fool tonight. The medical examiner looks like a fool too. It was a great day for the defense.

  512. The blond lady comes off as a little repetitive, and only wants to please the prosecution.

    • Since DeMarte was and is basically a disability psychologist for Social Security claims, giving reading and I.Q. tests are appropriate in those cases, but they aren’t useful in Jodi’s case, as Dr. Geffner noted.

    • Oh, so now her true colors are showing. She’s there to defend Demented.

      JW should ask her how many time *she* has given that reading test to her patients.

    • How about the endless pages of journals and typed correspondence? Did DeMarte think that she could write but not read?

  514. You know what? NOW I am starting to dislike her.

    She has NO reason to believe anyone would crucify Tot Doc for not giving a reading test.

    Nobody here ever ONCE mentioned a reading test until Tot Doc did. And even then it was just to say “why? Clearly Jodi can write in her journals, therefore she can read.”

    It’s not that complicated, Dr Jill. You don’t have to be a shit about it.

  516. And here’s the thing folks – I really wanted to like her because she helped write a book for women with HIV.

    IMO that’s pretty brave territory. Most people in society ignore that kind of subject matter.

    And now she’s sitting there on the stand, making snippy assumptions she has no point of reference to make.

    What a jerk.

  517. I wish the judge could tell the jurors..Don’t believe anything HLN says, they want a guilty person b/c that is what sells. They treat this death penalty case like they are sports casters at a ballgame. They will say and do anything to get people to watch. These jurors are only human, and curious to see this on tv, so of course they are watching and online, probably posting too. I was shocked when the jury wasn’t sequestered. We can only hope a couple of jurors haven’t been tainted by the media.

    • commercial time is going to sell at a premium closing arguments and verdict day…….HLN treating this like a sports event….

  518. Back to the ME, please. If this has been asked addressed, I apologize, but wouldn’t there be a taped record of the ME describing each wound as he was actually doing the autopsy? I would think if there was and if he was recorded saying the dura mater was perforated that it would be on tape before being transferred to written report. Also, since the prosecutors did not offer that taped or digital recording, then I would have to believe he knows it is not on the recording.

    • I don’t know if they are requited to tape them or not, if so I’m sure that tape would be re-taped for the prosecution as the ME is totally pro-prosecution.

    • When I worked for pathologists in a hospital in Canada, the gross autopsy description was recorded in the morgue on microtapes. Once microscopic slides were prepared, they would tape that at the microscope at a later date. When the report was completed, reviewed for accuracy and signed, the tapes were eventally reused. Typo seems impossible.

  519. I gotta say… I agree with you all… she’s full of shit and just there to defend DeMarte.

    If DeMarte can’t stand on her own as a professional she should have never been called.

    • Yep, then Dr. DeMarte has no business diagnosiing clients if someone has to come behind her and back her up on her errors.

      • I agree, It’s similar to someone who isn’t licensed yet & requires a Dr to oversee them – no one would rely on their knowledge as much as someone who is already. Even if that person has a good foundation, they are not at that place yet. This feels like an overseeing type situation to me.

    • MB-
      I question why JM was even allowed this witness. How is she considered rebutting “NEW” information. There isn’t anything new that J. D. didn’t testify to. Seems she’s just there to boost Tot Docs testimony. Any idea as to the shit argument JM made to get this one?

  521. Oh come on!!! Really???

    Then get off the stand Jill. No doubt you’ve lied at least once in your life, that makes you from now on a sullied character that can never be believed.

    You should just turn to the judge right now and tell her you’re committing perjury.

    And if you say you’ve never lied, well that’s the biggest lie of all.

    • Exactly.
      The qustion/answer opened a-whole-nother door.
      Hope the Jury was paying attention to that.

      We’ve all lied…

  522. Oh, now Jodi needs claw marks to be believed.

    Really, you’re going to turn and tell battered women that they need incontrovertible proof that they are abused – KNOWING that they are going to get the HLN treatment by explaining fractures as swan neck deformities and bruises as falls.

    Wow, just wow. Way to go for throwing women under the bus.

    • the only thing I can think of really..is that these people think that its OK for a woman to be beaten.strangled.fucked in any and all available holes.then make it easy for this cult to make precedent in this court of law? I know that some courts in other places adhere to a religeous doctrine..humm

  523. Excuse me Jill, but it’s not your job to decide what the topic is. This is a court of law where Jennifer asks the questions, you answer. You are not the boss here.

  524. Then she puts her puny eyebrows up and blinks like she doesn’t give a fuck about the question.

    For heaven’s sakes, what is she doing there then??

    I had SO hoped for a prosecution witness that was at least pleasant. The crime scene investigator was very relatable, why can’t these PSYCHOLOGY DOCTORS be????

  525. No questions from the jury. :/

    We are finally done for the day.

    Wow that was excruciatingly annoying towards the end.

    So does this mean no more Martinez? That’s a plus anyway.

  526. I’ll tell you, I am SO disappointed.

    I was hoping for someone pleasant.

    We got another round of DeMarte, version 2.0

    Now we’ve seen a sneak peak at what she’ll probably be like in twenty years.

    What a treat.

    • I was hopeful even as she started testifying, but it quickly took 180 degree turn for the worst. I shouldn’t have expected so much from someone who would agree to testify on behalf of the State, which directly helps the case for Jodi to be executed. Honestly, if I were an expert witness I would want to know about the case and the facts of the case that I am testifying in so I would be sure I was in no way supporting a BULLSHIT case like JM’s case.

    • She didn’t sound as smart or knowledgeable as Dr. Geffner…

      At least she didn’t have that smart ass arrogant attitude that DeMarte had…

  527. Anyway, I am off for a while. I got responsibilities to attend to.

    Thanks everyone for staying up and keeping each other company. I know I appreciated it. 🙂

    See you all tomorrow. <3

  528. I would think if they have a tape they would have to disclose it. If the defense knew of a tape they could have judge to order the release like they did with the phone.

    • Well considering the prosecution did try to withhold discovery already, then…….

  529. I have a real problem with psychologists and doctors trying so hard to put a person to death. Actually, I have a problem when anyone tries to do that. But doctors and psychologists, well that is must beyond my comprehension..

    • D, yes it is very alarming to witness this.

      It’s alarming to see HLN, medical professionals and prosecution work so hard for this, rather than work for and search to find THE TRUTH.

      I find it a very sad and frightening commentary of our world today.

  531. Lions, tigers, bears, frogs, “Mexican” Chihuahuas, gophers, German Shepherds. Snow White, 7 Dwarfs, The Prince, The King, The Evil Queen, Jinkasaurus.

    • You would think all these characters wouldn’t be in the same trail with all this sexual content. Some of the language is a first for me. In the beginning i had to a little research to find out what these Mormon terms where

        • I have watched several trials. OJ’s was my first. In OJ’s the investigation of the crime really screwed thing up. I don’t think the jury had much trust in the evidence. DNA was in it’s infancy. The nice part about it, HLN didn’t exist so you could watch it without listening to a bunch of talking heads. This one will be the one I’ll most remember.

  532. God please make Juan Martinez pay for his crimes against humanity.. This man is a monster. Father you know the absolute truth here. You know the true charactera of everyone in this case. The hows and the whys. I pray that your will be done in this case and in the life of Jodi Ann Arias. Your Grace is suffieient for us all. Justice is not for the dead. Travis cannot get justice even if he was murdered like the state claims. Which I do not believe. Like I said I have to trust in you and that you have your hand in this and it is YOUR will That shall be done. I pray for us all to find your peace in this Amen. I find it disgusting that HalN applauded Juan Martinez. Disgusting!

    • Amen. I’m feeling much better after today. After last week I wasn’t feeling the jury was still opened minded. I’m feeling better today. I feel it going to be between M1 and MS heat of passion. I will jump for joy if they do come back with MS self defense but I think the odds are better with heat if passion.

  533. New to this site. After spending the last hour reading different theories of what happened, I wanted to ask people a question I wouldn’t get death threats for asking. So here I am!

    I have read that Travis knew Jodi was going on a road trip to Utah and he convinced her to visit him along the way. It has also been said he was very jealous and did not want her to date anyone else and I think Jodi said he found emails between her and Ryan burns.

    My question is has the theory ever came up by the defense that Travis convinced Jodi to come see him so he could kill her? He may have known she was going to see Ryan. His plan backfired when Jodi defended herself and ultimately won the fight. He could have waited all those hours to have sex with her multiple times and then do it.

    Idk if that’s a logical theory or not. I have believed Jodi is innocent since the day I learned of what happened. Best of luck to her on verdict day!!

    • hello!

      Yes, that is one theory we have talked about here…but I don’t think in much detail.

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