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Jodi Arias Trial – Day 47

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Today’s events could be very interesting to say the least… and with everything that’s happened so far, we certainly can’t rule anything out.

The trial is scheduled to start @ 9:30 am without the jury being present – and as far as I know it’ll be covered on the live video feed.

Grace Wong (HLN) is down to testify @ 11 am. That’ll be a continuation of the evidentiary hearing related to prosecutorial misconduct (and possibly some other matters). The initial hearing featured Jinkasaurus from HLN back on March 28th.

After the noon recess – which is the only part of the trial that’s always on time – the jury are scheduled to return @ 1.30 pm.

Leave your comments below on trial day 47…

SJ
Team Jodi

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  4. That Erin Murray chick that started the whole thing against Alyce on change.org should be ashamed of herself!!! I think she should get a life! I am a wife and a stay at home mom and would like to tell her to STFU and go in the kitchen and make me a sandwich, beeotch!

    Ahh… that’s better!

    • How about Mallory Harvey? She snuck a pic of the defense in a restaurant, video taped it, and sent it to Nancy Grace who thanked her for it. I bashed the shit out of Mallory on Facebook. Her reply to me was i didn’t stalk AL and that she didn’t think sending that video out would cause a stir. What a liar.. I jumped on her on Facebook and she never came back to face me..

      I researched Mallory and found her on Twitter and Facebook and she thinks sending that video out was a big funny joke but yet she didn’t think it would cause a stir.. I bashed the hell out of her on Facebook.. She has that video on her Facebook page.. She should have been fined for that and her camera phone smashed right in front of her.. Fucking troll

      • Didn’t know about her, John. She sounds like a real gem too! Maybe they can hook up and be BFFs! It saddens me that there are such hateful women that take time out of their life to stalk or try to ruin Alyce bcuz they hate Jodi so much. It shows you how rational these people are! Did Dr. Henry Lee get all the hate for testifying for OJ? Nope, but according to Jose Baez’s book, he was given peer pressure from other professionals and law enforcement enough to drop out of Casey’s case! Why don’t people see that EVERYONE is entitled to a fair trial and defense? If these people are guilty, don’t these haters have faith that the evidence will prevail?

  5. Good morning Trinity, we are tied at 3rd, but who really cares right?
    It’s all about Wong today and the trial that makes you wanna reach
    out for your Xanax and scream “What kind of Fuckery Bermuda Triangle
    have we all been sucked into???!!!”

  6. Man, I should of waited to post on this page, but if you want a good laugh before the trail starts,go back and check out my post on the prvious page. We all have to laugh once in a while, Plus this suspense is driving me nuts.

    • I read it and replied… 😆 I generally the last to figure out that there is a new thread (?) 😯

      • This is the first case I follow on line, I just wish I could of followed the Casey Anthony case. My friend and some family told me I was wrong about her being found innocent before the trail was done. I wish I would of had a support site like this I could go to. I didn’t have internet service at the time. Thanks again to everybody that makes this site possible.

  7. Goodmoring friends, I took yesterday off, I needed to get away from this crazyness, but im ready for today. GOOOOO TEEEEEEEAAAAM JODIIIIIII ★

  9. Oh, I meant to ask, dies anyone know what they’ll be talking about from 9:30 -11 (before Mrs Wrong), is supposed to take the stand?????

    I REALLLLYYYY really hope, im WISHONG (I mean WISHING), that mrs Wong DOES testify that she DID SEE some of the jurors standing around. And if that’s the case, then THEY have indeed lied when the judge asked if they’ve seen what was going on…….

    • I would like to know what they are supposed to talk about from 9:30 to 11:00 also. On Friday I didn’t hear about anything happening until 11:00. I could be wrong though.

  10. Okay………….. are we ready for another day of unrelenting bullshit and judicial jokery?

    I am! I have my migraine and my upset stomach, and I am ready!!

    Justice for Jodi!!!

    • Maybe we aren’t going to see the morning part as the seal is still up… This joke mockery system never starts on time……….

      I also have a upset stomach, and had a mirgraine las night stressing over this trial.

      • Hopefully we will get updates from Wildabouttrial from Renee on weather it is open or closed.

  11. Anythings possible at this point…This trial is spiraling out of control.

    And Juan asking if Alyce interviewed Travis, I thought HNL was going to have their ‘psychic’ friend of Travis say she telepathically talked to him from beyond the grave,,,,

  12. Or maybe HNL is going to have a seance and rustle up Travis to ask him a few questions…..

  13. HI! I was gone all weekend and just got caught-up with the postings. I enjoyed the 12 News clip regarding the coverage of Juan. Can you say CYA? I wonder if the County Prosecutor’s office made a little phone call to 12 news…hmmmmm? The Prosecutor’s office probably doesn’t have much sway with HLN, but they could sure say something to their local news affiliate.
    As for AL being harrassed – – disgusting. What do you do? In this digital “Anonymous ” age people can post what they want with no consequences. Also, the free speech arguement, which we practice freely on this site! HOORAH! Although, the folks on Facebook posting, I think you can figure out who they are pretty easy and law enforcement could pay them a visit if they are making overtly dangerous threats. ‘
    Thats my thoughts for now! Thanks gang!

    • I was gone all weekend too.

      Hopefully there will be consequences for Juan, HLN, internet bullies, et al, because there’s sure as shit consequences for the rest of us in our ability to get a fair trial.

      I read somewhere that the internet has a lot less anonymity than people think, and that as technology develops it will be the least anonymous place to be. If that’s the case, electronic lynch mobs won’t be emboldened by being nameless, faceless bullies tainting our trials.

  15. I just amazes me to no end why an inexperienced judge on DP cases was given this case to oversee. You’d have thought given the publicity, a more experienced judge would have been given the case.

    It wouldn’t be the mess it is now.

    I say do a Kevorkian on the case and get it over with.

  16. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Beth Karas is here in a blue dress. She just asked Grace to step outside. Juan has a purple tie with green stripes fyi. #JodiArias

    3m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    All of the lights are dimmed by Valerie, it’s like a movie theater as she tests out the lighting. #JodiArias
    Expand

    4m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Spectators are not in here yet. Juan and Flores are at their desk. Nurmi is reclining. #JodiArias

    5m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Travis’ family is seated in the front row as usual. Not much going on in here at the moment. #JodiArias

    6m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    The screen is setup on an angle where only the judge can see it right now. Lonnie is still tinkering with his laptop. #JodiArias

    8m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Judge asks Nurmi how long this part of the hearing will take. He says half hour to an hour. #JodiArias

    9m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Lonnie is struggling to setup the pull down screen at the moment. Nurmi is lurching around. We are waiting patiently as usual. #JodiArias

    11m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Attorneys are out of sidebar. Grace is asked to bring her laptop outside the courtroom. #JodiArias

    11m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    When we begin you can watch live here: http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jodi-arias-live-stream.html … We have a link on there for mobile stream as well. #JodiArias

    13m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Live stream won’t start until the hearing begins. State seal still shows. #JodiArias

    13m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Judge Stephens motions with her hand for Juan to come up front and join the sidebar. The sizzle noise is playing. #JodiArias

    14m
    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Nurmi came in with a presentation screen. I think Lonnie Dworkin is here, looks like him at least. #JodiArias

  21. She should have said: “The jury is not present, and is probably watching these proceedings from home.”

  22. I want Nurmi to be aggressive! Not batshit crazy aggressive like JM but make his point loud and clear!

  26. Well, depending on Juan’s reaction to Nurmi’s questions to Ms. Wong, we will know if there is anything damaging or not!

    • Maybe he tampered w/photos when enhancing them???? Not a correct representation?? Unless this is a defense witness? Not sure who this guy is

  38. Give me a break…Sister crying (I wonder if she had a switch)…like she hasn’t seen that photo of TA a thousand times already…

  42. I am SICK TO DEATH of the ROYAL treatment those 3 get……ENOUGH already for Shit’s sake….

    • The haters are helping Jodi so much. Imagine if there WAS someone in his “eye”. Also by them admiring Martinez, photos, autographs, etc imagine if a mistrial WAS called because of that. They are so helpful those haters!!

  45. LOL at Flores standing there as if he is important. The man is a joke! A lap dog for Martinez.

  46. Auughhh! All these updates are killing me. I can’t watch for another 15 minutes. I am so nervous. When I heard about the picture – if the defense is bring it in, it has to be good for them right?

  50. So she can cry when its necessary. She wasn’t crying until she saw the camera was on her.

    • If there is any reflection that can be made out would be simply of Jodi taking the picture.

    • I thought that eye crap was just hoopla from the Taliban. What does it have to do with the prosecutor I wonder?

    • But Janeen, why would that make any difference to the defense? In some postings regarding the eye, some say they can see 2 people reflected in one of TA’s eyes…but obviously KN sees something with this pic regarding fair trial for Jodi

  54. Jodi needs to COVER THAT BOOK when showing it to JW….The 6 DEVIL EYES are behind her!!!!

    • And HLN was panning in on her earlier and I wouldn’t put it past good ole’ Nancy Graceless to have it enlarged and read what she’s writing…it’ll be her BOMBSHELL TONIGHT that she’s always harping about, which we all know is her gimmick because there’s never been no stupid bombshell.

  56. Is the sister crying because she’s right behind Jodi? Is she crying because this is going to kill their case? WHAT?! Did they just move Jodi because they couldn’t stand her next to them??

    • Not that I can tell.

      I mean, I do sort of understand where they are coming from. We all believe Jodi is innocent, we have no issues with her.

      Travis’s family thinks she is guilty and the reason why Travis is no longer around. Samantha may just be very sensitive because she was sort of close with Travis.

      I honestly wish it would come out that Jodi didn’t do this at all. I wonder how they’d feel then?

  60. I think this shows the reflection of 2 people in addition to jodi in his eye reflection

  62. This happened 5 years ago. They seen and heard everything a dozens of times. The sisters still cry like this all just happened. Were they even close with Travis?

    • No they were not close to Travis… in the report it states they were estrangled from their brother for several years. This is all an act on their part…. makes me cringe…………..

    • Exactly. They are playing the sympathy card. If they weren’t so vengeful and were actually close with Travis, I would feel sorry for them.

      • And in 5 years if they had chosen to work on forgiveness & acceptance, instead of focusing on their chance at vengeance as the only thing that would help them, then they would probably feel at peace by now.

  63. What the FK ever Samatha…… Give me a break……… you fk drama queen. YOu all partied it up for 5 years in Mexico, Hawaii, CA and now your shedding tears five years later when you didn’t even have contact with your brother……

  64. The one sister is SO dramatic. She could be a soap opera star!! I love how she looks out of the corner of her eye to see if the camera is on her.

      • oh yes, I can see it now, a few months after the trial is over, they will be all over the TV, magazines, anyone who will pay for an interview. I’m sure there will be books, etc, anyway to make some $$ off it. Disgusting to say the least….

  65. What’s the older sister’s name? She looks as though she is TRYING her damnedest to get the tears going…fail…

  67. the photo enlargement is RIVETING. It clearly shows 2 figures next to Jodi kneeling. Fits the Mormon Conspiracy Theory.

  68. That is the tech guy that testified earlier in the trial for Jodi, the “sound” guy that testified to the audio recording from the phone. I didnt recognize him at first.

  69. Now I’m reading this guy can see 3 people in TA’s eye reflection?? This is going to get interesting.

  71. AHHHHHHHHHHH THE THREATS HAVE STARTED AGAINST THIS GUY:

    Dawn Finnell

    Photography since I was 7 years old. I know all this – wonder why oh why this jackass would throw his lifetime away. watch idiot. public back-lash is tough. grin

    • interestingly enough Renee’ HLN did a story this am on “cyber bullying” w/regards to teens…hmmmm…guess they don’t want to talk about ALV and the hell that she’s been put through!! Shamefull!!!

      • I have to say Shameful is not the word that should be used; the BIASED is on the part of HLN. They are BIASED not a fair and equal part of the News community. I fully believe this is exactly why they are now separate from CNN as a news network. CNN/Turner Broadcasting made the right decision making them an “Entertainment” News because they make slanderous,and imaginary broadcasting.

        E

  72. If there’s others there with Jodi, wouldn’t that prove that she is lying about being there alone? I guess I don’t know if this will help her or hurt her.

      • Yeah if she hadn’t testified already I could see it helping but now this could just make them focus on yet another version of events.

        This is nuts!!

      • I think this is more about whether she had a gun or a knife at the time she took the picture, but who knows?

    • i don’t think it would hurt her because according to Jodi she has no recollection of anything that happened after the gun shot so technically she wouldn’t remember if someone else was there.

    • The photo has already been admitted into evidence…. this is new testimony that we don’t know where it’s headed right now.

      • I’m just curious if they always knew this about this photo or if this is something they just found.

  75. It may hold more credence to her “fog” – she doesn’t REMEMBER stabbing him – MAYBE SHE DIDN’T

  76. How long do you think Travis’ family practiced cryingin the mirror before court today? crying over seeing him look at the camera? Please I say 2 hours.

    • Omg they’re crocodile tears! !!! As if she COULDN’T reach for the tissue, she had that fat f*** police guy hand her the box of tissues!!! He’s NOT one of your Mexican maids, bitch. He’s there being a security for Jodi!!!

    • Why would there be two people when Travis is naked in the shower?

      It’s more likely something would show whether or not Jodi had a gun or a knife, i.e., premeditation or lack thereof.

      • that would be great TS, but what would that mean? A reduction of charges?? I don’t know that that would happen just because of the photo tho..

      • Hey you guys i don’t know if you know this but there is a video in youtube from an expert not associated with the case that DOES SHOW 2 PEOPLE IN HIS EYE> check it out i typed ” 2people in travis’ eye” and it came up.

        • It’s his RIGHT eye too correct Krista?? They only showed his LEFT eye in this hearing. WHY??? Each eye has different reflections. Why didn’t they compare the two??

          Why does this matter at all?????

    • Omg ME TOO!!! But if that was the case, jodi would’ve stuck with the intruder story, no?

      • Not if its like she said and they said they would kill her. I mean DAMN look what they did to travis. I mean they let her walk away the first time i doubt they would let her walk again if she ratted.

  89. I feel like this is going in SLOOOOOWWW motion. WOW. Hearts beating fast now – crap! I have to leave for several hours. Damn, Damn, Damn! 🙁

  91. Oh OMG hurry up to the point…. I am on the edge of my seat………… This is interesting

  93. Before I boycotted HLN Vinnie was talking about the prosecution having a Perry Mason moment.. I just sitting here thinking this might be the Defense having one.

  95. What is the point of this guy’s testimony? Does Anyone know how it is going to help Jodi?

  97. What’s with the strange camera angle! Geez! I thought I was in a different courtroom!

  102. Man this could possibly eclipse the OJ trial in being the
    most craziest roller coaster ride of a trial ever!
    WTF!!!!!

  103. He said that if he were to answer that question it would be purely speculation, and I said to myself, well, hell….that’s what we do here! Go ahead!!! Don’t let that stop you buddy!! 🙂

  104. Just got in. What’s going on? What happened with Grace Wong?

    Someone catch me up please.

    Did they really get a reflection in the eye?

    • So far, the reflection he is talking about it of a person (cannot tell who because not enough ppi) but a person taking a picture, holding the camera midchest high … so in support of Jodi’s story.

    • As for Ms. Wong, she testified to seeing Martinez signing autographs. She said she is familiar with the faces of the jurors, and she did not think any juror saw Martinez signing anything.

  108. I saw a video on youtube of this photo enhanced and showed the reflection of other people on the bathroom. I wonder if this is the issue

  110. Holy Guacamole – I came in late and I read above about them looking at what appears to be two figures in TA’s eye? Is this real?

    And Good Morning, Everyone! 😀

  117. That was the Scientific evidence behind Our Lady Of Guadalupe the Reflection in her eyes I saw it on Discovery History Channel. Very Interesting. I had written a long time ago about this to an Attorney, asking why the same test could be used in This Photo as was used in Our Lady Of Guadalupe’s.

  120. Oh, geeze…here we go with Juan being a jerk to a witness. I don’t know why? this guy works WITH the police! Juan may need his help in a different case in the future.

  121. I’m confused…What was the point of Nurmi doing this?

    And yes, JM is the biggest ass

    • Yeah, I’m not sure what Nurmi’s point is with this. Any why does Juan have to be a jerk. the guy didn’t say anything expect explained how he inhanced the photo. What gives?

    • Yeah that was a huge build up for very little.

      But why is JM so hostile to everyone??

  123. Here JM goes with snarkiness…The witness is an EXPERT with cameras and audio…WTF GIVE IT A REST!

  124. “one more time Juan.’ LOL… here he goes trying to pick this guy apart. man.

  129. I hate to be skeptical but this is a long shot, it’s going to be hard to sell it to this jury!

  130. WTH Juan./……… trying to knock off another witness because you don’t like his expertise ….. FK YOU JUAN…………..

    • And since this expert had testified for the prosecution in other cases, couldn’t disqualifying him allow for appeals on other cases?

  132. early on in the trial remeber someone on HLN saying something about reflection in T’s eye but I just thought oh geesh here we go again……but now im hoping and praying it will help Jodi out!!!!!!!!

  135. Yes I saw the same thing. There were two people in the reflection. Could it be the guy that his wife committed suicide? Jodi remembers nothing after the gun shot. Or it could be the Mormon cover up of the century.

  136. Hee, Hee – this dude works for the prosecution office a lot! Now Juan wants to pick him apart. And of course Judge Pickles is allowing this rediculous questions!

  138. “I understand, but that’s NOT what I’m asking” and can judge overrule any MORE? OMG!

  139. Does ass hole JM think he’s the only human on earth who is credible? He is beyond sickening

  140. Oh good grief, are we back on the subject of the definition of testifying with yet another witness?

    • I think JM has displayed the fact that his witness questioning tactics are limited….

  142. what is the point of Juan’s questions? Does he have nothing so he is making up stuff as he goes along?

    • I was asking myself the same question. Of course I am so lost right now on what I am looking at it’s not even funny. I am trying to figure out how someone could see well enough to draw the outline on exhibit 4. I don’t know how you could possibly put this in front of a jury and ask them to draw a relative conclusion of anything. I will freely admit this last half hour went WAY over my head.

    • He has nothing for premeditation, gas cans that were filled in California and apparently filled in Utah to get back to California and a gun that may or may not have been stolen from the grandparents or may or may not belong to TA.

    • It’s hard to follow, vebe. I think what is trying to be shown is that Jodi was not holding a knife when she took the pictures of Travis in the shower.

      I’m thinking the judge will rule against allowing this. I find this sketchy. You can’t create an image where none was to begin with.

  144. So this guy is good enough for Phoenix homicide and the army and numerous prosecution and defense lawyers but he’s not good enough for Juan Martinez.
    You gotta love this crap.

  147. …”you know what Mr. Massengil…I’m an expert in spotting assholes in audio, video and pictures. And in fact, I can spot an asshole from about 10 feet away……”

  149. Is it wrong that I wish for Juan to get run over by a bus? I’m sorry. I said it. That is mean. I don’t mean it. Really, I don’t.

  150. This is nuts! Now saying stuff about how well this guy sees? it’s not about his eyes, its about his equiptment! That Juan’s office uses to prosecute cases! WTF?

  151. This is so dumb. You know that if he found a reflection of Jodi with a knife raised the prosecution, HLN and the haters would be lapping it up.

  153. The hearing was only regarding his left eye. His RIGHT eye is the one other people have enlarged and stated they saw two images. There are obviously different reflections in each eye. Why didn’t they enlarge the RIGHT eye????

    What purpose does this serve??? Everyone is in agreement that Jodi took the pictures of Travis in the shower.

    • That is NOT what this hearing is about. There is NO evidence there were other people there. This is to show Jodi couldn’t have been holding a gun or a knife when she took the picture.

      It would be hard to keep the camera stable if she were taking the picture with one hand.

      • So tony, there will never be any talk of the other eye and what might be seen? To add to the case that her lack of memory may be due to other circumstances – to add to reasonable doubt she premeditated? Or is that not possible to bring this in at this point?

        Would be kind of fun to hear how many animal’s JM would see in that eye 🙂

  155. I’ve seen enough today. No way is this trial fair. I’m convinced the judge and the puny ‘rock star’ are in cahoots. Maybe the punk has something on her, wouldn’t doubt it. In any case, I’m not up to this pathetic show today.

  156. If this was an image of JA with her hand in the air holding a knife somehow I suspect asshole JM would have 20/20 vision and see that without outlines!

  158. No sir, don’t give me an accurate answer, just answer my question “yes or no”.

  161. FU*K!!!The Judge told that Wong lady to be there at 11 and and I thought it’d start at 11 and stayed overtime at work,WHY GOG WHY???
    I guess I missed some important stuff 🙁 🙁

  162. Next time Martinez runs into this expert at his office …..

    JM: “It was nothing personal”
    Expert: “I still don’t like you”

  163. In answer to JM’s last comment; Then can we say it would be up to the jury to decide what the true story is once we present the facts and NOT freakin’ hyptheticals?

  164. There must be something about his photo evidence that has Juan all shook-up. Don’t know what the phot can or can’t prove, but Juan really don’t want it entered!

  165. He’s such a mother fk-er……………….. he’s an expert………… and to explain to the jury about the phot. Gosh he pisses me off………

  166. simple fact is JM wants no part of the truth or any argument that HE could be wrong. All he wants is a “win” in this case and to hell with what really happened. He is disgusting. Everyone according to the delusional would he is in is that not one professional is qualified except for himself. UGH he annoys me beyond belief.

  168. bottom line is Juan does NOT want the jury to see this because it is more PROOF that Jodi’s story is TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!

  169. Obviously this expert is good otherwise he wouldn’t be hired by all AZ police departments and prosecutors offices

    • Right!! That’s why Juan’s questioning is so ridiculous. If he’s good enough for the prosecutor’s cases then he’s good enough for this one.

  171. judge stupid, incompetent and partisan allows almost any question jm asks no matter how improper, irrelevant, misleading, etc

    • i don’t think he even knows what the term “ethically” means. someone get him a dictionary

    • But he doesn’t believe in any tests that are in Jodi’s favor – psychological testing, etc…

  179. The dog is holding the camera… they have the whole case wrong.. the dog done it!! 🙂

    • His argument really is pathetic. A gopher or a dog couldn’t have taken the picture.

  180. When the pics frist came out someone on this site saw the reflections. I was able to see it blowing it up but someone with powerful equip such be able to do it and be clear

  181. If Juan saw a snout and a dog outline… he must have been seeing his own reflection when looking at the photograph.

  183. JM questioning the reliability when the witness just said that Maricopa County used the technology for two suspect vehicles in a double homicide. Does that then make the witness unreliable in a previous Maricopa County case?

    • No kidding – hope the defense lawyer in that case didn’t see this. Then they could say, “hey, even your prosecution office doesn’t think this type of testing is reliable!”.

  185. Martinez is an expert in every subject and topic. It doesn’t matter if a person has done the job of 50 years Juan knows best after 30 minutes. Right Judge?

  186. Just popping in for a sec. What pic are they looking at and what’s the issue with admitting it as evidence?

    • I just rewound back a bit… why is there a MS Paint outline of TA drawn on whatever that picture’s supposed to be?

    • I saw that too! That expression was priceless! He is probably thinking “you dumb boob! lets see how much help you get from me in the future with your cases!”

  190. Give me a break a DOG with a stick in it’s mouth!? WTF!??? Let’s use LOGIC, JM LOGIC!

  193. JM is arguing that this type of expertise should never be used in the future by his own office and could lead to all kinds of appeals in cases where this expertise has been used to convict

  194. Did anyone see Samantha smiling and smirking as they walked from the jury box back to their seats?

  195. Go Nurmi! Nice dig too on bringing up the text and emails Juan tried not to give you!

  197. It was not a dog! It was Cinderella’s mouse Gus Gus! Cinderella decided that she needs to support her friend Snow White (after all, Cinderella was abused by her step-family. Gotta stick together).

  199. Is jury hearing is???? I’m about to tune in. I mentioned weeks ago I could clearly see 2 people in the eye pic. One was a close up of a man’s face (profile). There is a black and white on the hate site ( well there was dont know ifmthey took it down when it was clear it could back fire) that makes it much much easier to see.

    More reasonable doubt. They don’t even have to prove this…. Just make it a possibility. Roommates could have come home and finished him off if they thought they needed to help her. Maybe they could tell she was out of her mind and a fight took place and they thought he was suffering. Tried to blame the whole thing on her especially if she didn’t remember anything.

    • No. Evidentiary hearing. No jury. Hearing just to determine whether photo should be admitted into evidence.

    • Yep. don’t know why Juan has a psychologist, since he doesn’t believe in that type of stuff.

  202. I don’t quite get what this witness brings for Nurmi. So it says she was holding a camera at chest height.

    What does that do? Jodi already says she took the pictures. I’m still trying to figure out how it matters.

    Does this have something to do with timelines?

    Did the prosecution make a claim that this picture was taken by accident when the camera was dropped?

    I’m at a loss here folks. Anyone got an idea?

    • Claiming she already had Travis at gun point or knife point when taking the picture. The eye enhancement disputes that. She only has a camera, she is kneeling like she said, taking pictures. Camera likely did drop.

    • My thoughts are it shows that Jodi was not holding a knife. I disagree with using this witness though. I know for certain you cannot create an image where there wasn’t one to begin with.

      I have to give Nurmi kudos for using this witness who normally testifies for Martinez though. I think that would sway the jury. If Martinez can use trickery, why not the defense?

  207. LOL “Mr. Martinez is afraid of the bite in this “dog” I Love you Mr. Nurmi!!! XXOO

  210. Martinez, “You’re only qualified as an expert witness in 2 areas, sound and audio, correct?” Dafuq did he just say? Sound AND audio… Aren’t those pretty much synonyms, JM, you dingbat?

    • It undercuts any notion she had a knife or a gun at the time the picture was taken. She held the camera like you would hold a heavy, expensive camera.

    • Water drop, likely distortion of the picture. Water deflects, reflects light differently.

  215. So if this *dog in his eye* pic is of the right eye might Nurmi be working to get the left eye image of two people into the trial

    • Wasn’t there a mirror behind Jodi where she was standing when she took the photo which would reflect her image? This would explain the “two people” reflected in TA’s eye…Just a thought…

  216. I just caught a bit of that live at lunch and OMG, I almost wished I hadn’t because I can’t get that asshole’s voice out of my head now. Why why why does he have to be a dick even at an evidentiary hearing? He’s soooo obviously playing to the camera. It’s really getting more and more ridiculous every day. This won’t hurt his case and it won’t help the defense much, if any. So why all the hullabaloo?

  231. http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_702

    federal rules of evidence

    rule 702

    Rule 702. Testimony by Expert Witnesses

    A witness who is qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education may testify in the form of an opinion or otherwise if:

    (a) the expert’s scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to understand the evidence or to determine a fact in issue;

    (b) the testimony is based on sufficient facts or data;

    (c) the testimony is the product of reliable principles and methods; and

    (d) the expert has reliably applied the principles and methods to the facts of the case.

    with

    Notes of Advisory Committee on Proposed Rules

    An intelligent evaluation of facts is often difficult or impossible without the application of some scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge. The most common source of this knowledge is the expert witness, although there are other techniques for supplying it.

    Most of the literature assumes that experts testify only in the form of opinions. The …

    • This can go either way based on the reliability issue. Depends on what the judge determines as reliable.

  233. Did you guys just get that, that JM has been intimidating witnesses in the chambers????

    • Can you imagine what he said behind doors. It has to be worse than what we witnessed.

  235. Go ahead Kermit,might as well make an A$# of yourself again today. I love it, just wish the jury could see this.

  240. Can anybody explain – when the misconduct trial mentions all the above (throwing evidence, intimidating witness, leaking info) why does JM get to say it is ONLY about the autograph?

    • Coz the Judge is biased,Martinez is her golden boy and she lets him get away with everything!

      • You got that right Maria. It really doesn’t matter what motion Nurmi brings against JM. It’s probably best to spend my time more productively than watching these kinds of motios because SS is going to come down on JM’s side. Also, it’s my believe that this judge has all along been bending to the public, the people that will retain her in approx three years. The same public that is the majority that believe Jodi premeditated a murder. The same public that watches HLN. The only hope I have left is a juror. I find the biggest fault for this circus with the judge.

    • I’d bet that is his goal which would explain the ‘get a conviction at all cost, damned the truth’ attitude.

    • It does not sound like they proved misconduct due to the pictures.

      They may prove it based on intimidation though

        • yeah, I should have clarified more 🙂 (esp. given we were shown pictures today!) haha

          by pictures, I meant by Martinez stopping to take pictures with fans, signing autographs 🙂

      • In any SANE world NK but not in this case and this court. Sadly. It must be exhausting to have to do all the work Nurmi and Wilmott do and KNOW before you do it that it is futile.

    • Here’s the thing she’s not getting – this isn’t an isolated incident. This is about Martinez’s pattern of behavior. If she had been paying attention to Alyce’s testimony, maybe she’d get it.

      But like a lot of people who side with abusers, they would rather compartmentalize and sanitize every incident to mean nothing.

      • Exactly! I loved it when Nurmi said ”continuum” in Martinez’ behaviour,that’s what the Judge avoids to admit.There’s a continuum of misconduct,not isolated incidents.

      • Right on, MB, “compartmentalize and sanitize” makes everything into nothing. This is how abusers get away with their own garbage.

        • Yes, exactly. They get away with it because they convince people that it’s just one thing they’ve done, rather than looking at the overall picture.

  252. Well who couldn’t see that one coming. Did you catch during the camera experts testimony that she started to say overruled and then changed to sustained at the last second. I don’t think she gives any consideration to the motions. She just talks.

  255. Trying to get through the first part of the day on DVR but from what I’m reading on here while doing so this case needs to be THROWN out! Whiteness intimidation !! Maybe that’s why AL needs to come back tomorrow to discuss this issue on record!!

  256. JK said on HLN the very first tme she spoke of the autographs that there was a juror pressent and that the juror saw JM speaking with press and such.
    I remember her saying that the juror was leaning agaist a cement wall.

    DID ANYONE ELSE HEAR THIS??????

    • I think she said she worried about what would happen if a juror saw this….. that is what she testified to. I am sure Nurmi would have played that clip if she actually said “I saw a juror” on air then recanted on the stand

  257. There were two separate mistrial motions. Martinez emphasize that.

    Mistrial due to jury seeing photographs – denied (lack of evidence jury saw it and that it would affect their decision).

    Mistrial due to witness intimidation (ongoing, being discussed right now).

      • No, this has nothing to do with the photographs. This has to do with Martinez signing the autographs and posing with his fans.

        She will make a ruling on the photos later.

        • By photos – I mean Martinez posing for photos, signing autographs. I keep remembering Nurmi showing that photo of Katie Wick and Martinez on the steps.

    • No, this has nothing to do with the photographs. This has to do with Martinez signing the autographs and posing with his fans.

      She will make a ruling on the photos later.

  259. I hope they play these tapes on appeal so the appellant court sees what a piss port job was done

  260. I knew that would be denied.

    I was kinda hoping she would give him a warning about yelling at witnesses and throwing things, but I guess she doesn’t see that as a problem.

    • Yes, the judge cannot even condescend to tell Martinez to STFU if he is just going to yell at witnesses and try to make their work look worthless.

      No, she just lets him carry on with his bullshit. What a joke of a judge!

  261. It’s crazy that after the witness tampering and intimidation and changing testimony. Aweful but think about how many Jodi Arias’s exist in the US and that’s the worse part. Many we don’t know about but this gives us a definite perspective.

    • I think the judge is going to review and then rule..I couldn’t stand JM so a break..but I think that is still pending

      • Nurmi actually asked that everyone go to the lab where the equipment is so they could see it properly, He said that when looking with the proper equipment that anyone could see it and it is less open to abstract interpretation. I believe that’s will be taken into consideration (I hope, at least).

      • I have to think KN is playing this simply to get it on the record. With what Pickles just said about a mistrial, this tape won’t cause that.

        • I agree, Kathi, this is exactly how JM has been acting to all the witnesses during the entire trial; arguing, badgering, intimidation and even testifying but, apparently, that is acceptable in AZ court rooms.

    • bystander, I really don’t think this judge will give anything to the defense…she is a horrible judge..and my lack of upper case “j” in her title is a lack of respect of her on my part..

      • I agree, sadly, Lynn.

        This judge is inept, biased, and over her damn bobbing head.

        • Way in over her head. This is a case ready for an appellate court overturning it if there is a conviction.

        • Renee’ if there is a conviction, I think that it’s obvious that a higher court will see all the misconduct that has taken place, and verdict will be overturned! I have watched many trials, and this is the most outrageous trial I have ever seen!!! Sequestration from the beginning..jury is tainted..if JA is convicted, it’ll be reversed!!!

          • I believe the judge and JM know there is grounds for mistrial and they know they have the power to do nothing about it – they just want the conviction (if they can manipulate it) to appease everyone and if and when it is overturned the public will have forgotten about it.

      • What’s interesting though is that the haters can’t stand the judge either and think she’s biased to the defense. But whenever lawyers talk about her, they think she’s great because she’s not a second prosecutor and is letting the lawyers run the show!

    • He tones it down quite a bit in chambers but he is still the same nasty frog we have come to know and love(not!)

      • Oh he has helpers they just do not sit in court with him. An on the Defense
        side they have to have at least 3 on a criminal case I read.

  266. Does anyone find it odd that JM is not yelling and being totally demeaning on the tape? I could take him if this was the worst he got. Why does he turn it up 1000% in court? I mean he is still a jerk but nothing like he is in court.

    • He’s very polite by his standards and listening to the witness. Is this tape designed to be a contrast to how he acts in court?

    • He is trying to be as civil as possible,this being a face-to-face meeting whereas he turns on his acting tricks/antics/skills(whatever you wanna call them)to impress the Jury.It’s a performance,that’s all!He thinks that the louder he yells the more convincing he is gonna sound!

    • He didn’t sound civil to me at all. Sounded like he was intimidating the witness and forcing him to say he could explain without exhibits through intimidation.

    • it’s hard for me to believe I can actually hate someone so much that I have never even met. But I do.

      • I’ve always considered Prosecutors to be the good guys and the Defense Atty’s to be the bad guys. This trial has changed that around 180 degree’s. Plus the defense has to deal with a Puppet Judge who has shown herself to be incompetent and a jury that’s lying through there teeth when they say they haven’t heard anything about this trial outside the courtroom.
        If this was a fair and impartial trial and the jury was sequestered and they came up with a gulity verdict I’d be ok with that even if I didn’t agree with it.
        This is so far from fair and impartial I can’t believe it.

        • Me also. My mother worked for the DA for years an years when I was growing up.
          I never got along with her an after watching JM I know why now. She was always
          right even when she was wrong. An she told me before all Defense attorneys were
          slime etc. Now I see that truly a prosecutor will prosecute even if the defendant
          may be innocent of the charges as in Death Penalty for Self Defense WTH?

    • Part of it is that the defense didn’t receive information for experts until right before the trial started.

  274. When JM asked this guy what would be his response if JM said he cannot see an image in the pic, he should have said, my response would be that you are CHOOSING not to see an image in the pic. THAT would shut his measly little mouth up for a second. Oh of course he would then go crying to the judge like he always does.

    • That is what I was thinking too BevM. JM is not going to see anything even
      if it was directly in his BLIND face maybe he needs new glasses !

    • Bet it’s the same issue as Samuels. She commented a couple of times that he was going to far for her

    • I don’t know Al, but I wonder what JM was discussing when he said that it is no wonder ALV was upset after what they discovered and talked about in chambers.

  280. *repost of mine from earlier

    He didn’t sound civil to me at all. Sounded like he was intimidating the witness and forcing him to say he could explain without exhibits through intimidation.

  281. I know it’s for the record, but I can’t help but feel Nurmi is wasting his breathe.

  283. Judge isn’t going to go for it…I can see it on her face. It’s SO obvious whose side she’s on.

    • I agree with that she is. The eye rolls when reading the Jury questions
      an then looking over to JM an Flores proved that to me. Oh an the pierced
      lips like she hates even having to read the questions.

  285. I think he also INTIMIDATED AND ABUSED Jodi!!!! Piece of dog shit that he is….I NEED to slap this munchkin….

  286. the audio of the interview of samuels by jm has jm constantly interrupting samuels in his search for the result or the outcome he wants

    jm has no interest in the truth
    jm is irredeemably biased against jodi
    jm has a totally closed mind
    listening to this audio even when not in court, he relentlessly reveals his proclivity to be dishonest and twist the evidence
    badgering samuels, and all the other prosecutorial abuses revealed in court
    tampering with this witness
    a serious crime by jm

    jm seeks to shortchange the jury on the truth as long as a twisted, distorted and incomplete will achieve the state’s end

    a very damaging audio to any fair minded person

    jodi haters excepted of course

    witness tampering

  287. Love the look on the AV experts face as he watches Juan talk. Kinda like ‘yeah, whatever you boob!”

  291. I am so tired of JM referring to himself in the 3rd person!!!!!! What does that title make him feel like a big man??

  292. I don’t understand why they can’t have FBI or CIA experts that do
    that kind of thing with the eye reflection verify it ? they keep saying
    there is no expertise in that field ?

      • Geez you would think one retired nice man or woman would see that
        an do it for free. I would what is wrong with people. I would be hunting
        a retiree in the field that had some compassion for helping out an
        did not hold any prejudice except to know that field.

  293. …but you know what? He is right (I have just thrown up) when he says it isn’t “prosecutorial MISCONDUCT” – it’s his CONDUCT ALL THE TIME- once an asshole always an asshole..

    OH BIG FUCKING DEAL!!!!!!!!

    She tweets through a 3rd party…!!!!! FU MASSENGIL

  294. OMG,Jodi’s tweeting!!!!
    I knew that would come and bite her in the a$$…

  295. its very apparent to me that this judge is more concerned about her reputation than she is about making sure Jodi gets a fair trial. Anyone who listens to Kermit, has seen his behavior, and has any ethical boundaries sees this is grounds for mistrial many weeks ago. Her only concern is that she is seen in the court of public opinion, as being the Judge who put Jodi away. Stupid bitch!!!
    She probably has a book deal too

        • Donavan said that they talk about things and they agree what to tweet.I personally am not convinced of that.Some of the tweets dont sound like Jodi to me at all.

          • It would still be the friends perception of what she talks to Jodi about and besides Jodi has no legal standards as a defendant as far as her trial and her conduct. He does

          • I agree JODI did not type it in there so therefore it was not JODI just
            her name on the account. I can make up a account with her name
            also an put things in there an say Oh Ya I am friends with her also?
            so dumb.
            WHERE is Byran Carr? remember that guy? all the time calling in
            to the JOKE NEWS saying he was relaying messages all the haters
            believed all that crap an JOKE NEWS too. Such CRAP !

        • Even if she wanted to do so,how could she have confirmed it?That’s why there’s a lot of speculation and the haters are having a party over this tweets-some sound offensive.

          • She can’t confirm it. But even if Donovan says Jodi is relaying the messages it’s all Heresay. Right?! 😉

  301. If it was a dog don’t you think Jodi would have been attacked by the dog if she was unjustly attacking Travis unprovoked. Yes she would be attacked at that moment because (if you have a dog you know this) he loved Travis and Travis was his master he would have protected him from jodi if he was in the room. He would never let Jodi go after him . JM is a F*ing nut job. Who thinks Jaun will get another case after this fiasco ? Show of hand s ….. none. My thoughts exactly.

    • It’s only fair to say that Napoleon was not there during the killing.Otherwise,you’re right-he would have attacked Jodi in a second,despite the fact that he knew her and loved her.TA was his master and he was more loyal to him than her.

      • The roommates testified that there was a dog gate at the bottom of the stairs which they thought was odd since the dog was normally allowed free reign. Oddly enough, they never took it down. Hmmm

    • He sees a Dog LOL! he is so pathetic can they use the fact that he dyed his hair shortly after his media mania Can they put him on the stand.

  303. This judge just isn’t going to call mistrial. She wouldn’t even sequester the jury.

  306. Pickles just rolled her eyes and then looked like she was going to fall asleep..discrespectfull!!! Excuse my spelling, I am pissed!

  307. Nurmi; “This isn’t second grade, this is a court of law.” But I think JM and judge beg to differ…

    As far as prosecutorial misconduct – I’m sorry but I think it is rampant. The prosecutor is not supposed to testify or put false arguments without evidence in front of the jury, as JM has done a number of times. It is blatant and it is on record.

  309. I wish KN would say that approaching the witness without permission was also intimidation!

  310. If you or a juror can see 10 different images then that is Reasonable doubt boom!!!!

  311. judge stephens if you rule against the defense motion remember the prosecutorial misconduct of nancy grace

    Prosecutorial misconduct

    The Supreme Court of Georgia has twice commented on Grace’s conduct as a prosecutor. First, in a 1994 heroin drug trafficking case, Bell v. State, the Court declared a mistrial, saying that Grace had “exceeded the wide latitude of closing argument” by drawing comparisons to unrelated murder and rape cases.[9] In 1997 the court was more severe, overturning the murder-arson conviction of businessman W. W. Carr in the death of his wife. While the court said its reversal was not due to these transgressions, since the case had turned primarily on circumstantial evidence, it nevertheless concluded “the conduct of the prosecuting attorney in this case demonstrated her disregard of the notions of due process and fairness, and was inexcusable”.[10][11] Carr was freed in 2004 when the Georgia Supreme Court ruled unanimously that Fulton County had waited too long to retry him, thereby unfairly prejudicing his right to a fair trial.[12]

    Despite upholding the conviction she sought, a panel of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in a 2005 opinion that Grace “played fast and loose” with her ethical duties and failed to “fulfill her responsibilities” as a prosecutor in the 1990 triple murder trial of Herbert Connell Stephens.[13] The court agreed that it was “difficult to conclude that Grace did not knowingly use … [apparently false] testimony” from a detective that there were no other suspects, despite the existence of outstanding arrest warrants for other men.[13]

    judge remember what was revealed about nancy grace in the supreme court of georgia

    and it’ll effect you

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Grace#Prosecutorial_misconduct

    Prosecutorial misconduct

    The Supreme Court of Georgia has twice commented on Grace’s conduct as a prosecutor. First, in a 1994 heroin drug trafficking case, Bell v. State, the Court declared a mistrial, saying that Grace had “exceeded the wide latitude of closing argument” by drawing comparisons to unrelated murder and rape cases.[9] In 1997 the court was more severe, overturning the murder-arson conviction of businessman W. W. Carr in the death of his wife. While the court said its reversal was not due to these transgressions, since the case had turned primarily on circumstantial evidence, it nevertheless concluded “the conduct of the prosecuting attorney in this case demonstrated her disregard of the notions of due process and fairness, and was inexcusable”.[10][11] Carr was freed in 2004 when the Georgia Supreme Court ruled unanimously that Fulton County had waited too long to retry him, thereby unfairly prejudicing his right to a fair trial.[12]

    Despite upholding the conviction she sought, a panel of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in a 2005 opinion that Grace “played fast and loose” with her ethical duties and failed to “fulfill her responsibilities” as a prosecutor in the 1990 triple murder trial of Herbert Connell Stephens.[13] The court agreed that it was “difficult to conclude that Grace did not knowingly use … [apparently false] testimony” from a detective that there were no other suspects, despite the existence of outstanding arrest warrants for other men.[13]

  320. Martinez complaining that Jodi is attacking him through Twitter by mocking his height. He’s just needs to grow up.

  321. What about all the info being released to the media by the state that is not in evidence, ie Flores interviews with Jodi’s parents? I wanted Nurmi to bring that up.

  322. I simply cannot even comment on how pissed I am or how ridiculous it is that the judge does not see misconduct from JM. This is a travesty.

  324. We knew what she was going to say. I think Nurmi is just doing his job and building a foundation for overturn conviction.

  328. The comment wasn’t about “how tall the prosecutor is”, the comment was “how tall the prosecutor is not”. Get it correct Juan.

    • WHAT IS WITH THIS JUDGE? seems she just can’t rule against her “dirty little secret”!

  331. Talk about blind Justice The Judge thinks her little golden boy can do no wrong. I guess I was mistaken but I thought the Judge was suppose to be neutral. So he can yell and scream and throw things as well.

  332. Questions for the Legal Eagles

    clearly this judge is never going to rule on prosecutorial misconduct against her friend Juan.

    Is this the end of the line for the assertion of prosec misconduct or does the defense have further remidies with another court?

    Thanks

    • I had a similar question… it seems there is so much misconduct here that they should be able to go over this judge’s head and get something done. Can they? Do they have ANY recourse other than wait until the end and then appeal?

      • I think from what i have been researching they can appeal to a higher court during the trail if they can prove that the court presiding over the case is not acting justly by not reprimanding the Prosecutor if misconduct can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. So to answer your Question I think yes they can. If this judge doesn’t handle this today then i think we will probably see it happen

    • Or find a mistrial in a trial SHE is presiding over. That would look like she couldn’t control what was happening in her court. That is why they should have to go to a higher court that the judge has nothing to do with and have it looked at. There is never an end of the line till the trial is over. It is the defense attorneys’ job to fight for the defendant. And if his/her training and education is telling them that that is what is happening they can do it till they are satisfied. Thats were Jaun has messed up. He has under estimated the defense teams knowledge and commitment to their client

    • They could filed an interlocutory appeal right now. They filed one before on the probable cause issue where Flores had misrepresented what the ME said.

      I didn’t watch that live. Was he really intimidating Dr. S and ALV in chambers?

      • Also-
        Was he really intimidating the witnesses? Good question. I had to serve as a witness for many years in my profession, but it was all in Family court. There were some real a**h****, that would badger you on the witness stand but the Judge usually put a stop to it.

        If it isn’t intimidation, then I am concerened how rouge Prosecutors are allowed to be.

  334. Of course this helps Jodi. it shows how she was standing, and how it is much MORE likely her story is true then Dumbies.

    • NO DON”T YOU”LL WANT TO DO MORE THEN PULL A JODI !!! LOL!! Trust me i was there and it took everything i had not to stay and SCREAM AND SCREAM.

    • No Moni,nooooo-dont look into the light(or should I say darkness?) Stay with us!!!!

  336. Is she watching the same trial I am because it appears she might be in another galaxy far far away.

  337. Well, FUCK this judge, and FUCK that smarmy POS Prosecutor.

    Note to self: Stay the fuck outta AZ for your lifetime.

    • But Sedona is so beautiful…. how is it that, that beautiful city is in the heart of evil? Is there something I don’d know about Sedona? hmmmmm

    • Unless you want to kidnap your baby from it’s father’s custody, smother it, dispose of it in a dumpster and just get your hand slapped…..that state and the judges are really disgusting!!!

    • i cancelled our trip to go to the nhra races down there….will NEVER step foot in that state again!!!!

        • I really did want to see the Grand Canyon one day. Oh well, I’m afraid of heights anyway.

        • Don’t blame the whole state! So many great things to see there – Grand Canyon is awesome, Flagstaff, Sedona, Saguaro cactus, Tucson, Senora Desert Museum, Four Corners, & the beautiful orange canyons/outcroppings in the north-west corner of the state…don’t miss these because of this crazy trial. Somehow Jodi will be ok.

  338. OK so there was a Chihuahua, a german shepherd and a gopher in that bathroom as well? Wonder if the gopher saw his shadow? And was the stick used? OMG this is getting way out of hand.

    • OMG I just saw what the expert was saying!! Clearly you can see the camera, the camera lens and someones hands holding the camera………

    • I thought that was stupid funny when JM said in argument that he sees a dog in the reflection of Travis’ pupil…

      And I thought something funny…then Jodi wasn’t there…the dog did it…LOL….

  339. did she say that Alice is going the be there this afternoon, thought that was to be tomorrow, and is that going to be on TV

  340. I think the Judge is intimidated by the “haters” and her ability to be re-elected.

    It is beyond me that the Court actually purports that the jurors are not being bombarded with the publicity of this case. One cannot turn on the TV, look at a paper, walk in a grocery store and look at magazine covers at the check-out, and not see something about this case. Unlike the CA jurors who were sequestered and, therefore, not aware of the mania of the haters, these jurors have a true understanding of the vileness of the haters and potential of the wrath of a not guilty or acquittal.

    • If all of us here, as well as those on hln AND other judges, attorneys, etc. know that jurors have been exposed to media (whether to their own accord or not), then this judge and jm know it, too. BUT, they also know that it cannot be ‘proven’ in the court unless one of the jurors decides to be honest and be a whistle blower. HOWEVER, if someone was in that position, I would imagine they also know how dangerous it would be to blow the whistle to force the mistrial, so they will not speak up.

    • I bet some of them are getting email, snailmail, etc about the case. And what about their family members watching, reading stuff, talking to co-workers, & saying they are afraid of what could happen if jury verdict is not guilty?

  341. Yes , continuing this trial is a mistake. Just wasting additional tax payer money because once this is all over turned they will not only have the cost of the appeals but the state of AZ will have to pay for a new trial at the end of all this. I have no doubt she will be re- tried

      • But then the court would surely need new witnesses and they have probably been watching the trial 🙁

  342. Even if Alyce did approach his sisters it doesn’t give JM the right to yell and scream at her and I’m sure that is what he did. How very shameful that the judge allowed that and worse that she sees NOTHING wrong with it!

    • Where is the film of that? still they have not shown it an you know
      it would have been on film somewhere. For some reason I can
      see Samantha egging that on with the eye rolls an ugly sour
      face they maintain so great daily. I won’t believe it till I see
      some proof of that Alyce approached her an said something.

    • I am disgusted that they have tried to twist this around against LaViolette. Anyone with half a brain can deduce for themselves she had no ill intentions.

  343. Just read some comments on a post of Beth Karis… they put on there that Nurmi is trying to bully Juan.. I would love to have some of what ever these people are smoking!

  344. Oh well.

    At this stage I guess the issue with ALV probably has to do with her talking to Samantha Alexander. Or at least some of it did, since JM talked about questioning her about something he deemed improper on her part.

    Wonder what this afternoon’s hearing is all about.

    So back to the trial, and all the other evidence type issues, which clearly are more important.

  345. I missed the testimony of the gentleman Mr Nuemiester or what ever his name was.Could someone catch me up please?

  346. OK…I’m rounding up my Brooklyn posse….we’re going to FREE JODI because she’s NEVER getting a fair trial in that Fucking WHOLE ASS state….

    Everyone on board?????? (LOL LOL)

  347. I’d like to hear another judge give his educated opinion on these MULTIPLE motions for Pros. misconduct and the Judge S’s denial of them ALL… Alone, the CAMERA (EVIDENCE) being thrown by JM in the courtroom, IN FRONT OF THE JURY was MORE that enough proof of his misconduct.

    • And every time the defense asks for a side bar during JM cross, JM responds by showing disdain and comes close to rolling his eyes. you can just see it on his attitude right in front of the jury. i’m sickened by the happenings of this trial. I can’t believe it goes on like this. How do people see the prosecutor as anything but a big bully?

    • I wonder why Nurmi didn’t add a video of jm throwing the camera AND the pen along with this audio. It seems to be the judge would have a difficult time denying that.

      • Why bother? It seems this judge completely condones JM’s behaviour. She has never once told him to tone it down that I know of.

      • I think she’d excuse him anything. She’s as biased as they come. Did you notice how sheepish she looked?

  348. I am proud to say that i have not ever speculated past the evidence that is presented and what would make common sense…With that said, here is my bat shit crazy theory…lol

    So, what happens is… DRUM ROLL PLEASE…..

    Jodi comes to Travis’s place, they knock boots, take some dirty pics and play naughty with each other. Jodi drops the camera, Travis gets mad, chases her, she grabs Travis’s gun, points it at him, its NOT loaded or she doesn’t fire it. He knocks into her and BOOM…she blacks out. ENTER… ‘ole boy, the one whose wife was leaving him, and she had talked about moving into TA’s home. HE shoots TA, stabs the shit outta him and slits his TA’s throat. JA wakes up…the murder is gone, Jodi freaks out, thinking she must have killed him.
    She said she doesn’t remember stabbing him or slitting his throat.
    She says she didn’t even know the gun went off. (So she doesn’t really remember shooting him)
    I got knocked out once, didn’t know how it happened until someone told me, everything that happened while I was knocked out was a “fog”. I was awake and walking around town. Talked to people.
    Funny how just a few short months later this guy’s wife kills herself with a .25 caliber gun!

    I know its BS….but, lets compare the gun from the suicide to the bullet from TA…just to be sure. After all, according to HLN there were only 3- .25 caliber guns ever made 😉

    Ok, I’m back to reality of facts and proof. Yawn. hi everyone. Snicker

    • Sirlips! I have to say THAT is, by far the MOST logical theory I have heard YET!!!! NO KIDDING.

      • Sirlips, good theory:

        No gun power associated with Jodi (per crime scene report). Confirmed she had not fired a gun.

    • Good theory. I’ve had many theories go through my head.. One thing I feel the strongest about is that Jodi didn’t do it alone and she didn’t slit his throat. I also don’t see how she drug him to the shower and positioned him in the shower the way he was found.

      Are you sure that the bullet Ashley Thompson was killed with was a .25 calibur? I thought I remember reading something different. I DO find it very coincidental about the timing of her “suicide” and Jodi changing her story as well!

    • Also… There has been a lot of speculation about people enlarging the photo of his right eye and seeing 2 people. I wonder if the Defense isn’t bringing that in because that is not their defense of what happened. Too many red flags in this whole thing.

      I know we are supposed to go by the evidence and information given in the trial but I do love to discuss different theories. I honestly just don’t believe what they are saying happened is the truth.

  349. Go Nurmi!!! It’s about time someone put JM in his place!!!! Finally! Aww, I’m so proud of Nurmi today, he ain’t takin no shit off nobody, most of all not from JM-Go Nurmi Go!!!! 🙂

  350. I really appreciate this site. but, having noticed in recent weeks the foul language, name calling and members stooping to the level of HLN and those being duly called the Abuse Supporters is lowering the level of class once enjoyed.

      • I’m with you Janeen Russo. We’re not jumping others with different opinions and the name calling I see here is mostly deserved.

    • Really ? you may need to go check again on those other sites. This
      site is nothing like the other side not even CLOSE?

    • Just look at it as an abused site,then.Pretty much the way we should look at all abused victims out there.There’s an amount of shit you can take and then,one fine day,out of the blue….you just SNAP!!!
      People who support Jodi have been abused,bullied,ridiculed,gagged to name but a few.This is the ONLY place to vent out and compare it to what’s going on out there doesnt do it justice.

    • epenrose,
      You are NOT being serious are you? WE don’t set up websites to BULLY witnesses, WE don’t band together to form mobs, we DO NOT make slanderous remarks. We (I) may personally feel frustrated and express that frustration with an angry opinion as others, but we are in no way remotely akin to the vile hatred tht is spewed from TA support sites…Where do you see a “lowering the level of class”?

      • Omg the such foul language n death threats here, wow really? ????????? Lol im with you all but mostly what Kira thinks… DOUBLE “F” THAT!!!

    • I have to agree with you. The foul language, etc. has escalated a lot since I found this site some weeks ago.

    • You have got to be kidding.

      Let’s do some comparisons:

      JA Site about prosecutor – JM’s bully, nicknames like Kermit, douche, misconduct, no case, case overcharged, masogonist, jokes about him being vertically challenged, Ass, win at all costs, ends justify the means ideal of justice, his voice grates to the point of nausea.

      TA Site – ALV should die, JW should die, going onto Amazon declaring war against experts and their books (messing with experts livelihood) with comments like man hater JA should die, Samuels should die, ALV should die…oh let’s not forget comments about their families and children and the wrath that is wished upon them.

      Then we can also compare the class of the defense team and lack of class with the prosecution.

      Nothing else to say on that subject.

  353. Please do not take that statement the wrong way. I simply think that this site holds true to Jodi and should not in any way shape or form contribute to the opposing sides views of her supporters

    • epenrose,

      I see why you might think that, but a lot of the cursing has to do with built-up frustration. The opposing side will always think negatively of her supporters, no matter what we do. We could talk about rainbows and butterflies, and we would still get insulted. (Case and point – Dr. Samuels and ALV have been nothing but respectful and reporting facts, and they have been harassed and called every name in the book).

      Nobody on this site is trying to be rude. People have even apologized for using foul language and even stated that they were just frustrated.

    • You see frustration from us with the AZ judicial process or lack thereof. I’ve not seen a vile nature of comments on this site. I’ve never read where a poster here has threatened prosecutors and for sure not their families, etc.

      P.S. JM language in court is much more vile than this site….over and over again. JM has thrived on vulgarities throughout this case. JW covers the same material without being disgusting.

      So an “F-bomb” here and there is nothing in comparison to what is being said in the Court, hater sites, or the likes of HLN.

  354. ADD PENNIES?? Is this allowed he is highly unethical and very very inappropriate!!!!!!!!!!

  355. JM wants Jodi put to death. Jodi tweets he’s short, and he is complaining about this??????

  356. WE do not advocate THREATS on other people….

    WE do not post incredibly destructive and disparaging remarks about “the other side” on THIRD PARTY SITES…..

    What we say – we say HERE – AMONGST FRIENDS….!!!!

    • No we don’t, BUT we do stand for standing up for ones self and each other . And if someone is commenting on a threat or disparaging remarks it might sound like they are speaking badly but they are just remarking on remarks made to us. Because I’ll tell ya it’s nice having so many people stand up and say F you to anyone who thinks the can threaten, brate or belittle. No one is threating anyone , and saying something neg. about someone when it is true is not disparaging like Jauns a pig. see that didn’t hurt at all. and this is for epenrose.

      • Krista, this has long been a double standard with the Travis Taliban. Someone will come here, pretending to support Jodi, then read us the riot act for what we say and how we say it.

        Then they take no responsibility for what they say, or how they mischaracterize our statements or pretend like anything here comes anywhere close to the repulsive actions of the other side.

        But then they turn around and claim freedom of speech. The irony is rich, isn’t it? Because here they are, trying to tell other people what to say and how to say it.

    • Janeen, there will always be self righteous ingrates who come here trying to pretend that they can tell us what to say and how to say it.

      To which I say – FUCK THAT. I’m a grown adult, and as long as SJ doesn’t have a problem with what I say, I can say what I want.

      If they are that offended, they can go somewhere else. I’m not here to pander to the delicate sensibilities of closet Travis Taliban pedo huggers.

  357. I just popped in for a second. Is this eye iris picture a “big” thing for the defense. Is it because Jodi is standing with a camera with both arm up?

    • Yes, that’s why and the defense says it corroborates Jodi’s testimony while on stand that she was standing with the camera taking pictures

      • Exactly! Jodi’s credibility has been dragged through the mud countless times.It’s only fair that the Defense gets to prove(yet again)that her theory stands and that she’s telling the truth!

        • Yes, but, I thought by way of the photo showing the lights and ceiling in the show it proved this, that she dropped it?

          • I’m with you Heather(as always <3) but if the defense feels they should have yet another proof corroborrating her story then it must mean that they need it or as a safety net.Plus,if I were in their shoes I'd sure want this admitted as evidence because remember the other day some of the jury's questions sounded er…how should I put it…not convinced yet?So…

  360. You watch, the haters are going to see this as a victory for JM, and they are going to go crazy with the hate attacks now! And the court is basically saying it’s okay for the prostitute, oops I mean prosecutor (I always mix those up, they both get paid to screw people!) to continue abusing witnesses and it’s okay for the minions to continue abusing Alyce and Dr. Samuels, and whatever other witness the defense brings up.

    I couldn’t believe him this morning, attacking that poor man on the stand! Unbelievable

    • Gail,

      I am totally on board with what your saying…. He can sign autographs, canes, take pictures, scream at witnesses as long as the jury doesn’t see it.

      Wow, and Flores being so friggin stupid about the twitter account. Seriously your a detective and know that she can’t tweet out to anyone from jail…. And if it is someone on the outside that is not a crime… FREEDOM OF SPEECH..

      I knew this crack whore ( pardon my language) won’t declare a mistrial….. SHe’s got no balls…. Interesting to see what happens this afternoon with Alyce… Looks like she’s going to be in court today instead of tomorrow.

  361. Rest assured if the shoe was on the other foot and it was Nurmi yelling at witnesses, throwing things around the courtroom, etc., etc., etc., he would have been fined, sanctioned, brought up for disbarment, and anything else they could have done. This is truly the most biased court proceeding I have ever seen in my life, and I’ve been watching these since the early days of CourtTV with my mom.

    • Mel, I have to agree completely with everything you said. It shouldn’t happen. And I don’t understand the people that don’t see it that way

    • Truly, that’s what I’m dreaming of. Honestly. That when their psychologist comes on to testify that Nurmi or Wilmott would treat her like he did ALV. That would be so, so, so glorious to watch!

      • Two wrong’s don’t make a right, Tanne. They are professional lawyers and that would be very distasteful to lower to JUAN level…..

      • I hope so too. But I have a feeling they won’t but they sure need too since the Judge
        allows JM to treat witnesses in that fashion then I would think the Defense should
        bull dog an berate the DA’S witnesses as well. An I bet the Judge won’t let them get
        away with it either which will show the prejudice of the Judge towards the Defense.

      • I really wish they would just to prove their point but they have much more respect for the proceedings to do that. Not to mention that comment that JM threw in the other day about he was talking about the defendant, not a person, and last I checked she’s a person who has a right to a fair trial and this is NOT what she’s getting at all in no shape, form, or fashion, and nobody’s to blame for that but the State and HLN, especially NG! Btw, I just checked Amazon again and there was about a 6 or 7 hour lull on the negative reviews because I’m guessing they were scared of the witness tampering and/or harrassing so they stopped, but since the judge pretty much just told them it’s fair game, they’ve started back up.

      • They will treat her with the respect that is due to her. I cannot see the defense team getting down in the mud and rolling with the pig! And good for them, shows how professionals treat other people!

        I wonder if JM going to yell at his own expert?

        • That is true I guess. An JM does treat some of his own witnesses
          rudely at times but nothing compared to how he treated the Defense
          witnesses.

          I hope the Jury can see the difference?

          But some people say that is just how a prosecutor acts ? But I have
          watched other prosecutors just as passionate about the case an not
          use the drama that JM uses to get someone to answer a question
          how he wants it answered even if it is wrong.

          Example: Gus Searcy did not fall into the trap an everyone called him
          a joke a limelight lover etc. He was only being honest. Dave Hall
          is the lime-lighter but yet calls Gus names about testifying.

          Dave Hall
          has a FB page full of his time in the limelight an is a huge HYPOCRITE as
          the HUGHES are in my opinion.

      • Yeah but they need one first. It s like Nurmie said they have not called and are not calling anyone to refute this. Thats why this is so F* ed up.

    • Good grief! The uproar that Alyce spoke 2 words to the family was blown into a huge deal.

      But death threats to her place of business? Now big deal. Thats just someone voicing a complaint.

      Gags me.

    • I’m a Britt, can you imagine? I’ve never seen anything like it before in my life. First US trial I have ever seen! Nothing like this would ever happen here. I’m permanently shocked!

      • I am also BLOWN AWAY!!! This is injustice in the worst form. This is such a mockery of our constitution that your country is probably glad we left after watching this Monstrosity. It’s disgusting how people in this country can hate and judge people without knowing what options these people had to chose from. In this country you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty . You’re not. I don’t think people ever were. Victims are being imprisoned, bullied and slandered with out any proof of the accusations by the media and the State. The Media crushes these defendants into the ground to the point they commit suicide. ( 2 Because of Nancey Grace alone that are documented and 1 family paid off out of court because of it. ) or their viewers take action. There is an ACTIVE case right now with what is happening with Alyce. She has been HOSPITALIZED because of the media and social media. This trial is part of the MOST DOCUMENTED CASE OF BULLYING EVER KNOWN. But never the less even though all of this is happening right now, people like us are watching and we are not going to take this lying down. We will stop it. It is wrong. It damages everything this country stands for. It’s so sad because anyone could be next.

  362. Off topic:

    Have you guys seen the two explosions that just happened after the Boston Marathon. Pretty gruesome looking for those that were at the finish line and in the hotel. Thankfully the race was finished so the injured are less than it would have been a few hours earlier.

  365. JM: Its not my fault, its everyone elses fault, the witnesses made me yell at them, its not my fault I can’t control my bullying and abusive behavior–its THEM!

    Judge: I don’t see your behaviour as misconduct, Mr Martinez..

    I came home late so I missed half the trial tonight, have to catch up in the morning ;).

    • Yep you nailed it…

      Juan: autographs and photo, but judge Jodi has a Twitter account… So they justifies your behavior as a professional procesutor?

      Judge: unless the juror sees it, it’s totally irrevalant……… to this case. FK YOU HJS.

  366. All of this witness intimidation and harassment reminds me of what happened a few years ago on the show Big Brother. Granted Jodi’s situation is much more serious, I see the same thing happening to Alyce happened to a lady on BB.
    A contestant on the show was playing a very devious game, playing both sides if you will, and using that to her advantage. Remind you this is a game show where people are trying to win a half million dollars.
    Viewers that did not like this particular contestant went on a rampage. They called her job wanting her to be fired, they made threats to her family, it got really ugly. It doesn’t take much to get the nutters going.

    I call BS on Martinez saying he never watches any TV related to this trial.
    Also, did he wash the hair dye out of his hair? It’s looking grey again.

    • No Trixels he didn’t wash out the hair dye. That’s happened when Jaun saw all the evidence Nurmie has. It was the shock of it all that turned it gray again. Didn’t you see it? It happened right before our eyes.

  367. OFF TOPIC! I just received a call from a relative in Boston that bombs exploded at the finish line of the Boston Marathon and “there is BLOOD everywhere”….OMG!

  368. The reason judge prune puss dismissed the requested mistrial is mainly because the jury hasn’t been tainted (enough) to change the outcome of a verdict.

    No, of course she wouldn’t see this because SHE’S to busy rolling HER damn eyeballs HERSELF! !!! What would she say if Nurmi brought in evidence showing Flores or Martinez rolling thier eyes and suckling teeth IN FRONT of the jury??? Would she then have enough proof, because if THAT is what she needs, then there is video showing HER INFLUENCING the jury by doing just that!!!

  369. The defense is brilliantly setting this up for the Supreme Court.

    Martinez shouldn’t be allowed to practice law. He’s making this case too personal. He’s ruining use of video/recording/photo experts for his own court in the future by discrediting the expert.

    This Judge is incompetent.

    This whole trial is just barbaric revenge. Funny how the abused woman now gets abused by our court system. At least we have lawyers like Nurmi and Wilmott.

    • Yes, I truly hope they do not stop her with this motion, it needs to be taken to the supreme court.

      • The defense wouldn’t keep pushing all this evidence for mistrial if it wasn’t warranted. I expect them to take this to the supreme court.

        I read articles over the weekend where former Supreme Court Judges are agreeing with the defense! Especially due to the social media, the ‘court of public opinion’.

        Arias is not getting a fair trial and when I real former Supreme Court Judges agreeing, I believe she has a huge chance.

        At most, this was secondary murder.

        Taking her life is not justice, it is barbaric but look who she’s dealing with.

        As I observe his surviving siblings, I notice there is something very ‘off’ about all of them.

        • That’s putting it mildly. Truth be known, Travis was probably the most normal, the most sane of all of the Alexander kids.

          No wonder he had nothing to do with them.

        • I agree with all you, and about the siblings, we’ve all noticed. At first some felt sympathy for them (to tell the truth, I never have), but with time a lot of people have come to reason that they’re SO fake!!! I blv they’ve been on this super sibling act all for the $, well maybe not all but a lot of the reasons and they have to ACT to make it believable. They’re pathetic, they were CRYING while they were sitting down, then when they got up to move to where they always sit, you can see one of the sister with a big smile, grinning at Mike.

        • I noticed that too. Like any other human being, I want to have sympathy for anyone who loses a loved one, but they make it damn near impossible for me to have any.

          As far as I can tell, Tashina is the only one who has made some real improvements in her behavior. The other two… ugh… just seems like they are hamming it up for the jury and the cameras.

  370. Martinez, “I had to intimidate Ms. LaViolette because his surviving family members want his image protected, not the truth.”

    • You forgot the ”Praise St Travis,Praise Him,Blessed are you St Travis,Holy is Your Name.AMEN!” recurrent theme, lol!

      • Oh no no, Maria.

        I came up with their “Mormon Messiah”.

        😉

  372. I’m still laughing with Jodi about JM being mad she mentioned his height! I think I will laugh about this for the remainder of the day 🙂

    Not sure of anyone posted Jodi was trying to keep from busting out laughing HAHAHAHA!!

    A silver lining if you will….

    • Goes to show you the state side is surfing the net for clues to their case…. HA. Ha. HA……. Maybe Flores has a crush on Jodi … reading the Twitter account… Tweet, Tweet…I am over here….

    • I laughed when he tried to act out the ”I have no idea,I dont follow the media,someone else told me,what’s her name Dona-something?” gig!!!
      Yeah,right Martinez!

  373. May I say, off topic, I love this site. You’re all such nice people and I’ve read most of your personal stories posted on here. My heart goes out to each and every single one of you.
    It’s nice to know decent people still exist in this hateful world.

    (((Hugs)))

  374. So does anyone want to speculate what was discovered in the close door hearing that has to do with ALV and you know JM thinks it’s a good thing?

  375. Looks like a DOG, NO, I mean German Sherpard, Oh, I mean gopher……….. WTF…. That’ s why your not an expert on video, cameras, audio but yet your office hires this man for your cases.

    Get a clue JUAN…. your the biggest disgrace to the American judical system…. along with your bias Judge Sherry…..

    • I almost fell over when he said gopher, and he also said a Mexican Chihuahua. What the hell is really going on here?

      • “Mexican Chihuahua” – from that, I got him inadvertently calling her a “Mexican bitch”. (female dog)

        HOW OFFENSIVE! Seriously, I cannot believe Judge Stupid-ens allowed him to say that!!!!

      • And they were holding the camera and taking pictures, no wonder why he felt he had to defend Snow White.

        • I never even thought of that. I have never heard someone say a Mexican Chihuahua
          before either. I have a chihuahua an when I wanted her I never said a Mexican one?
          WTH? it is a chihuahua. JM is very strange though how he words some things is it
          to put it in our heads or what?

    • Yes! And I hope now that Juan Mar-teeny-man discredited him, every criminal this expert could assist in a court case go free!
      He’s a mad little idiot!

      • It is funny you say that I have a friend that has a chihuahua named Marteenie! but
        that chihuahua is so cute unlike Martinez lol

  376. WHAT THE FRIGGIN HELL!!! What ? What ? What has to happen to get a mistrial here? Does jaun have to physically punch someone to get one. If that is the case we might get one. Does anyone else notice how Jaun is get all panty wad today with Nurmie and all of his PROOF, opps i mean evidence that these charges are true. Man if this doesn’t get a not guilty for jodi i don’t know what will. Even if we have to go to apeal to get it.

    • Apparently only if he punches someone in front of the Jury. So then prosecutorial misconduct is only misconduct if it is in front of the jury is the way I understood it according to this “judge”.

      • That is the same as I heard…it has to be going on in front of a jury…

        My question for Nurmi and JW…Why didn’t they get the video footage from previous days testimonies of Dr. Richard Samuels and Alyce LaViolette when JM misconduct took place in front of the jury?….

        Why did they just use the video footage of JM misconduct that took place in the judges chambers outside of the jury?

        • Because that what was probably the only tape they both agreed to let in to the hearing to be considered. Just like they have to both agree on evidence admittance and the jury questions that are asked. I think.

      • LOL! Your right it would Have to be in front of the jury. But like i said we just might get it . I THOUGHT we had it when Alyce told him he might need to take a time out!! I laughed my butt off. Lost 2 inches. Ahhh… But seriously i think he might hurt someone. And what is crazy is he has no one to blame but his self. He gave us ALL THIS EVIDENCE.

    • What is funny he is so squirmy you can tell he knows he has crossed the line he looks
      down a whole lot when professing innocence to the Judge if they would use that body
      language crap on him that they do on everyone else WOW what a little LIAR he is haha

  377. Hi Everyone’ I am Marny from Perth Western Australia … I have followed this trial via the web since it started and I can see Jodie is INNOCENT. BUT 1st and foremost please tell me why the Judge of such a high profile case is not impartial, she roles her eyes and sighs when the wonderful Nurmi trys to show her that this case has the wheels fallen off at each turn … But she is quick to look at the Jaun an only [one an only] lol sorry there had to make you all laugh just for a sec because believe me THERE wont be a Mistrial And our Jodie wont get retried.. Sad because to me TA Was A piece of sh#t that controlled and manipulated her for his own play toy at every angle. And in the courts watching TA Family and friends texting in the courts sniggering and not to mention playing it up for the cameras this Would not happen here NO PHONES AT ALL why is this ALLOWED AT ALL? And as for any of this what is the judge Doing SWEET F ALL Sorry for my Rant ….Glad I Have Followed TEAM JODI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK …… Marny From Australia XX

  378. I don’t understand the judge’s reasoning for not granting a mistrial but I’m glad she didn’t. If Jodi is convicted I just don’t see this case making it up through the appellate courts, unless this misogynistic 21st Century witch hunt goes all the way up our judicial system. In the first place it would be good to find out how far up it does go, and secondly, with a verdict, Jodi’s defense team would get a chance to see what kind of idiocy they’re up against. A mistrial just means start over.

    • My lawyer told me that the average education level of a jury, if you’re lucky, is 4th grade. This is a fact. Sad, but true.

      • I would think it would be hard to find a lot of people who haven’t gone past the 4th grade. Maybe your lawyer meant their intellectual level (and I’m not sure how anyone would know that.) I’ve been on several juries, including a murder case, and what I found in deliberations was that there were thinkers who helped explain it to the nitwits. Unless we end up with 12 nitwits, we still have a chance.

  379. Just a side note, I thought Jean was a lot more defensive and obfuscating than Ms Wong.

    Just an observation.

    I wonder how Ms Wong feels about this trial.

  382. HLN QUESTION “Who’s on trial here Jodi or the Prosecutor? ” Well I would have to say BOTH!! Jodi because she has to and Jaun because HE PUT HIMSELF THERE!! Your thoughts Everyone?

    • I agree with you Krista…they both are…Jodi is innocent…and JM is guilty as hell with his misconduct toward the witnesses…

      • That’s right! Jodi can’t help but be there! Jaun can help being an ass. And he can help getting information illegally , He can help acting like some kind of sick freak that gets off on the publicity of a woman who had been abused and attacked by a progressively escalating pediphile, manipulative sociopath . Man isn’t this the kind of thing serial killers like? Jaun might be on his way to this, he can’t seem to be able help himself. It’s like he is feeding off this . It’s sick !!

    • Joke News just trying to fuel the fire of the haters more. Before it was who is on Trial here Jodi or Travis?
      It will never end till it ends.

      I agree though as far as harassing witnesses he is so rude ! even in the interview interrupts etc. I guess with the interviews being so rude the witnesses had to know what they were up against a TYRANT!

      To bad Nurmi gave him a clue when he said I am glad this is being taped I noticed JM’S tone changed
      for about a minute haha then he just can’t help himself what a jerk he truly is -Juan Martinez.

      Funny he
      should bring up a Mexican Chihuahua I have one an they are like JM yip yip yip at the heels they go. But my chihuahua is so much sweeter than JM is. Everyone does know that a Chihuahua really does believe that it is a BIG DOG true. I have big dogs too an that chihuahua actually does believe she is just as big an bad as they are her voice is but the body does not match just as JM when it comes to real blows that Chihuahua knows when to run an I am guessing JM is the same way.

        • haha I agree with that too Kmiller. Middle finger to hln (no big letter to emphasize them either)

          • I know. I just thought it was funny, and I honestly wanted your opinion. I think its good to get this groups answers to the questions the haters want answers to. that way if they ever come here and try to see where we are coming from they will see that we talk about the same thing and give them another side to look at that’s all. I’m not offended. I asked .you answered. Thanks it means a lot.

    • I agree. If Juan doesn’t want to be put on trial or criticized, maybe he shouldn’t be such an asshole.

      He is a representative of the State. His standard of behavior *should be* above that of the average commentator.

  383. “NO CRIME OF PRE-MEDITATION” per Dr. Samuels…….

    There is one important fact that has “seen the light of day” with playing Dr. Samuels recording: In his opinion, this was “NOT A CRIME OF PRE-MEDITATION”. No, it is not on the “record” and he was not allowed to testify to it. We do know the jury IS “looking & listening” beyond the walls of the courtroom, perhaps it will have an impact. We can only hope social media picks this up and spreads the word.

    With regard to today’s hearing and ruling by Judge Stephens, there will NEVER be a mistrial in this case (IMO, of course)! The defense is brilliantly laying ground work for an appeal where unbiased and reasonable minds will consider the totality of evidence and overturn this case.

  384. As much as I support the motion for a mistrial I don’t see this judge granting one. The women has no back bone.

  385. I think this all boils down to what that closed door hearing is all about.

    If it has to do with ALV talking to the family, then it has no effect on the trial and we move on. If it has to do with intimidation, who knows, but after the judge’s demeanor today, I don’t believe the defense is going to get a mistrial unless something very obvious happens in front of the jury. I think that when the judge said “there is a fine line between advocacy and misconduct” she basically told Martinez that she will let him go to the very edge, and essentially carry on doing what he’s doing.

    I think a lot of this was purely for the record.

    Does anyone know if they have any testimony today, or is it just the hearing?

    • The only thing that I heard before the afternoon recess was there was going to be an interview in chambers…in reference to what…I don’t know…

    • Al…did the judge leave a door open about Jodi’s twittering when she told JM something about ” if it affects the trial”…

      • I think what she was saying was that if it affects the trial she can issue an order for it to stop. My problem with that argument is that the only way it can affect the trial is if the jury gets to view the tweets.

        But the jury doesn’t watch any of that stuff, right? Isn’t that what Martinez and the judge claim?

        So if she says that the Twitter account has to be closed because the jury can be affected, then they are claiming that the jury is following stuff on Twitter. In which case all the other stuff on the media would be there too.

        But I think that argument is probably too logical for this bunch.

  386. I sure hope that someone with the computer savy to do it, sent a copy of that blog radio program with that attorney from Mass. making threats to ALV to someone in authority. I suggested the attorney general, but I see via internet that the FBI investigate witness threats and intimidation.
    If it goes to Judge Pickles, she won’t do a damn thing….but I think someone from the FEDS would be very interested in hearing that, if they haven’t already.
    Does anyone know if its been done yet, or if anyone is going to do it….

    • Melvis…are you talking about Wendy Murphy?

      http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2013/04/08/tricias-true-crime-radio-sunday-night-8-pm-eastern

      (At 8:30 into the radio report you will hear Wendy Murphy’s own words as she say that Alyce LaViolette and Richard Samuels they will be destroyed….and then she says we who work in this business will destroy them)…

      I tried to write it almost word for word as she was talking….

      8:05…Wendy Murphy starts here talking about Alyce LaViolette she says that is not stupid……
      8:30…Wendy Murphy continues here saying everything that Alyce LaViolette said in this case will be used against her…that all the lawyers are already gathering up all the transcripts of what Alyce LaViolette has been saying as well as Richard Samuels…

      Wendy Murphy continues to say that the lawyers are getting prepared to use these transcripts against them in any of their future cases..Wendy Murphy says they WILL BE DESTROYED…She says this is just the “Nature of the Beast.”…

      Wendy Murphy says…We will..We who work in this business WILL DESTROY them as expert witnesses for the rest of their lives…Wendy Murphy then says…So…I hope it was worth it…she said that she sort of described it as the selling of the soul…

      • She also says on this tape that people can write to the licensing board and tell them to revoke ALV’s license for lying on the stand, which will incite people to write to that board.

          • omg…I didn’t hear that one….good god, please someone who has the ability to forward that tape to the authorities, do it….I know it can be intimidating dealing with the feds, but they need to be made aware that a practicing lawyer in the US is making these types of threats.

      • yes, thats the one….isn’t she still a practicing attorney…regardless, making threats of a career ending nature to a witness is ILLEGAL, and its a felony!!

      • HEY EVERYONE !!! DID YOU KNOW THAT WENDY MURPHY IS NANCEY GRACES sidekick. here is an excerpt for an article called Nasty Nancey Nation – Throughout 2006, Grace and her frequent sidekick, Wendy Murphy (who claims that there is no such thing as a “false rape accusation,” declaring on Grace’s show, “My own statistics speak to this fact”) backed up whatever prosecutor Mike Nifong said was true, even though Nifong’s stories continually shifted. No matter how many holes appeared in the case, Grace continued to ape the same narrative: the boys come from “privileged” families; a poor prostitute has accused them of rape; therefore, they are guilty of rape. Can you even believe this . Do you think Nancey Grace is behind all the bs Wendy is pulling . Your thoughts.

    • I’m just curious as to why you refer to the judge as Judge Pickles? I”m a newbie here so I’m sorry if I’m asking annoying questions.

  387. Watching the Boston Marathon bombing on News. This is why the treats agaist the witnesses need to be taken sooo seriously. There are a lot of crazy and evil people out there.

    • Yes, the jurors were told to be there at 1:30 arizona time, so I think there will be testimony today. Heard there is a closed door hearing at 1:15. So it might be awhile.

  392. So Martinez believes the reflection in Travis’s eye shows a dog taking the photo. The next questions should be:

    (1) Was the dog packing a gun or a knife?
    (2) Could it have been Travis’s dog, Napoleon?
    (3) Why would a dog want to kill Travis? (motive)
    (4) Was it one of those stray serial killer dogs that exist only in Arizona?
    (5) What percentage of dogs can take photos? (5%-10%?)

    Hey, Martinez started it.

        • Marteenies = Mexican Chihuahua=they can drink an hold camera’s at extremely
          high heights for a Marteenie=able to morph into a human being with a camera

    • I personally think Nurmi should have asked for a mistrial immediately after he said that citing the fact that the prosecutor said it was a dog in the picture. Clearly he just admitted Jodi did not kill Travis if you are using his underhanded word play games right? You did just admit that there was a dog holding a gun on Travis didn’t you Mr Prosecutor? Right? Do you have a problem with your memory? Yes or NO?

  394. “I’ve been retained by your office on another case.”

    So WTF is Juan bitching about? If he’s qualified to work on that case, he’s qualified to work on this one.

    What a dumbass!!!!

    • Yeah, lets piss him off Juan and see if his testimony for your next case is a great one…

    • He doesn’t have to take the BS. Law enforcement and the prosecutors office need him more than he needs them. I’m sure someone from those offices are watching and saying “No Juan! Don’t piss this guy off! We need him!!!”

  397. Typical Travis Taliban response – “WE are not responsible for our behavior, WE cannot be in any way criticized or held accountable for what we do no matter how atrociously we behave, but Team Jodi cannot say or do anything without being relentlessly criticized and held accountable with any and all overbearing of possibilities to the meaning of what they say or the work that they do in this case.”

    And now Judge is siding with Martinez. Surprise surprise (not).

    • Do a test to see who raised his/her voice more than the Prosecutor???WTF?He’s so stupid?Is this his best argument/excuse?

  402. Nurmi has a lot of endurance to keep bringing these motions even though he knows they will be denied. He’s doing his job giving her the best defense he can, and keeping motions for mistrial on record to overturn any conviction.

    Rock on Nurmi <3

  403. “Constant attack on the prosecutor”

    You flatter yourself Martinez. You pretend you are above any standards of behavior. You are a representative of the State and have behaved in an atrocious manner to which has been brought to the light of day considering the high profile nature of this case.

    It’s called criticizing your behavior, and those criticisms are not unfounded.

  407. The level of denial with this judge is fucking ridiculous.

    “Cannot find sufficient evidence to rule in favor of the extreme remedy of mistrial.” (paraphrased)

    Whatever. Keep telling yourself that. How do you sleep at night???

    • she even stated on the record that his questioning was not outside the bounds of normal. what a joke. but it’s not as someone’s life may depend on this.

    • Mistrial could be a problem for the defense, but how about at least a reprimand or warning for JM?

  408. Krista’s comment about the underestimation of the dedication of the defense team by the prosecution was profound. The little man thought it would be easy to obtain a death penalty conviction. Now, that is no longer possible and the pygmy is desperate. Unfortunately he has an ace up his sleeve…the incompetent judge.

  409. Can you smell that?? OH YEA.. Thats right yes indeed, VICTORY!!!! JM is the biggest hypocrite and if he thought he was gonna come in and smear my girl then try to take her out – he has another thing coming!! It was okay for you to sign autographs when social media was tipping in your favor and now that your reckoning has come you can’t take what you seem to loooove to dish out and suddenly your ears open up and you start sniveling about it like its affecting you?? You’re not so big and bad now JM are you.. KARMA baby

  410. Sorry if Im in the wrong place with this, but I have just gone to Ms. Laviolette’s book on amazon and written a review of her book praising her, her work, and her bravery. It felt so great, I recommend you all do the same!

    Also, does anyone know where we can send messages of support to Ms Laviolette? Any specific websites? Oh and btw the people who created this page, I would almost say have a Responsibility to create a page in support of Ms Laviolette as well, goodness knows that brave woman deserves all the positive support she can get!

  412. Is there ANY doubt DeMarte has been watching HLN and is basing her results on what’s she hears from Grace, psycho Valdez and Dr. Drew?
    Willmot almost caught her today on that, but she barely escaped saying she saw it in the police report!
    Willmot did an AWESOME job today and DeMarte certainly hurt her self being so defensive.
    One more time : what is a pattern? LOL And the best thing about Wimott, she’s letting the jury draw their own conclusions. Unlike JM who assumes the jury’s so dumb and has to state the obvious.

    I was VERY SURPRISED though, that Wilmott did NOT put out there more strongly that Demartes job is primarily to reject SSDI claims, which goes to prove just how bias DeMarte is, be wise she has to be
    Everyone and anyone who applies for SSDI is automatically rejected the 1st time around, and it’s pretty well known. Though I’m sure she doesn’t want to piss off the Feds.
    It’s clear though. DeMarte made a fool out of herself disagreeing that there was no trauma because there weren’t any ninjas, and the. Trying to “clarify” her definition of pattern..
    She couldn’t just admit she misspoke, like a seasoned veteran such as AL, and pretty much admitted today that she does not hold the knowledge of the hippocampus that Dr. Samuels does!
    HUGE day for the defense, though let’s not hold our breath waiting for any of the HLN
    crew to admit it. I used to find HLNs bias funny. Now though I’m just glad they are showing the coverage and just forward through the BS of the crew ( we already know what they’re gonna say)

    The judge though..can’t believe they haven’t got the mistrial based on JMs actions inside the courtroom, and didn’t even admonish him..but I’d think its a no-brainer whether an appeal could be granted because of his witness intimidation ..and now, wow, every objection Wilmott makes was getting overruled while JM gets sustained..makes you wonder if justice Stephens and JM got something going o something’s weird and seems rigged though, which I have no doubt the jury’s seeing.
    Lets leave it like this for today’s statement to the prosecution: LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS, OH MY!
    Even jury questions show that they realize how amateur DeMarte is.

  413. Plus, the camera…why oh why didn’t Wilmott mention that if she wanted to destroy the evidence, and was in the right frame of mind, she would’ve taken or destroyed the SD card.

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