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Jodi Arias Trial – Day 43

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– covering the latest Motion for Mistrial.

Leave your comments below on trial day 43… as Alyce LaViolette continues her cross, and Jodi takes one step closer to victory.

SJ
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    • What are the rules establishing how long counsel can cross examine?

      Is it related to the length of the original testimony?

      • Normally cross is restricted to topics covered on direct, but I learned from Vladimir Gagic that AZ allows any “relevant” question, just like on direct.
        How is Snow White relevant, you might ask?
        And I wonder, “Who am I, the Oracle at Delphi?” and you might reply,
        “We all know Sherry Stephens sure isn’t.”
        And I say, “You said it, I didn’t.”

        • jjb

          I think AZ is like Texas. It’s pretty much a free for all on cross. Ask what you want.

          • Yep exactly, and as such, there is no time limit either. In most cases, a judge would tell an attorney to wrap up a line of questioning that was waaaay out there. But Judge Sherry? Apparently not. Think about Snow White!

      • In criminal trials judges have the power to set time limits for both sides.

        For example in the Roger Clemens trial midway through the judge imposed a 90 minute time limit for each side per witness and 2 hours each for closing arguments.

        However given this is a capital murder trial (rather than perjury / obstruction justice) there’s no chance the judge will impose any time limits.

    • Hahaha Jaz, now that’s funny. The little control freak has many more aces up his sleeve.

  3. In honor of Jodi, I indulged in a “Pop Rocks Martini” last night at dinner. Surprisingly enough, it was a special on the drink menu and couldnt resist when noticing it. After having watched JM and the ridiculous circus-like events of a so called cross-exam; its safe to say that everyone, including myself, could benefit from a drink….or 5 😉

    • The Easter Bunny opted out of pop rocks in the baskets at my house this year because of the connotations. Maybe the gin would take the edge off. Do you think he would mind if that’s what mama served for supper tonight?

  4. Are we placing any bets to see if Juan can keep his shiz together and not yell or throw anything for 2 days in a row?

  5. Who else thinks that JM’s just pissed because if Jodi is Snow White, that almost certainly makes him Rumplestiltskin?

    • He will always be Rumplestiltskin to me. Constantly trying to weave that golden AHA moment from nothing more than straw.

  6. People are truly insane, and I am going to buy a place in the woods and become a hermit! This was posted somewhere…unbelievable!!

    ALYCE’S PUNISHMENT… So it was confirmed last night that Alyce Loviolette DID in fact approach one of this sister’s of the victim Travis Alexander in court on Thursday. VICTIMS FAMILIES HAVE RIGHTS….and I would just say that move by Ms Lioviolette is one of the lowest things I’ve ever seen by an “expert” witness. YOU NEVER APPROACH THE VICTIM’S FAMILY if you are on the DEFENSE trying to get the murderer off!! I do not know how much more of this trial I can take!! Yes I do believe and I said yesterday that Alyce was admonished by the Judge and perhaps the mitigating attorney was questioned in chambers as well. BUT A MESSAGE TO JUDGE STEPHENS….I WILL ACCEPT NO MORE THAN AN OPEN COURT PUBLIC ADMONISHMENT FOR THIS WITNESS…maybe not in front of the jury but certainly to the public gallery so they can see what kind of woman she really is! To those who have worried about Alyce’s career being affected by people outraged by her lies on the stand, I will say to you SHE HAS IT COMING!! If she’s as experienced as she claims, she should certainly KNOW BETTER….and that she has her own CHEERING SECTION brought to this court to coach her on and nod and laugh and smile….makes me ill! I’ve NEVER seen an expert witness bring a cheering section!!! Judge Stephens we have LAWS in this country, laws to protect victim’s family and a slap on the wrist in this case is NOT ENOUGH…I believe a monetary sanction is appropriate here. Maybe a forced donation to the Victim’s Rights Organization is in order!!! DO THE RIGHT THING JUDGE STEPHENS!!

    • I think she meant well, but yeah, she should have known better then to approach his family members.

      That said, who cares what YOU will accept. Seriously, what kind of power do you have that anything is going to happen if you don’t get your way? Geez, people talk and act big like they are SOOOOOO important. Her “cheering” section, as you called it, was simply the regular audience at the trial laughing at one of her snarky comebacks at Juan, who by the way, was being a bit belligerent. It may be his tactic to ruffle people on the stand so they can’t keep a thought straight, but it is annoying, and some sort of retaliation is inevitable.

      • If that trash isn’t gracious enough to accept whatever kind words I’m sure Ms.LaViolette was offering, they don’t deserve my sympathy. And it will no longer be wasted.

        • Yup, same here JJ. Mrs LaViolette is (and is has even been said on HLN and media) that she is one of the best witnesses a defense or prosecutor can have on there case because she will NOT take sides, she WILL tell the truth and tell it how it is. And to me, that’s the kind of witnesses I want to see on the stand. As far as her approaching TA family, “oh plz” get over it, its not like she went up to them to talk shit or hurt them in any way. If anything, it was very respectful of her, she didn’t HAVE to do it and she did out of respect and if they cant appreciate even that, then I dont know what else to say about them. They’re all good though when it comes to donations but they cant appreciate condolence from an expert?

        • And that one sister Tarnisha…..when she has that oh so ugly look on her face….she looks like Cruella de Vil ….just saying!!!

          • Moni-thank you, that was the “other” character I was thinking of-Cruella or Morticia-and she’s constantly either grinding her teeth-or doing something,…as Rhonda said in a previous post: and I wonder-if she’s either a current or former speed freak.
            She reminds me also of a former “frequent flier” patient we had who was in the ER almost every week from heart palpitations, (aka Atrial Fib brought on by Crack & Meth). My youngest daughter now works in the same ER I worked in for over 10years and said the patient became a “legend” after she overdosed after using various forms of amphetamines for 20yrs. She was one tough cookie. My daughter says they keep pictures of her from over the years to show to newly addicted kids that come in. I imagine it *might* work on some…hopefully.

        • Personally,if a individual,ANY INDIVIDUAL came to expresst their condolences,be it on the defense´s side be it a stranger,I wouldn´t be so heartless as to TELL ON THEM and cause such a fuss.I know it must be hard for them,but no way am I willing to believe that ALV was nothing short of tender.kind,sympatheitic and maube even apologetic.Bottom line????She obvioulsy didnt see it coming because she didnt know that some people just AIN’T WORTH IT!!

      • This is all too suspicious for me. The gang spends DAYS ripping up this woman’s book on EVERY website that lists it. They call or write to every organization she’s speaking for, including her own. And now, she allegedly approached one of the Alexanders so all their hatred is rationalized? You know, I just don’t believe that happened (her contacting one of the sisters). Until I see it with my own eyes, I will never believe it.

      • I can’t read that crap anymore. What they’re doing to Alyce makes me SICK!!
        Alyce’s reputation in the DV community is one of HIGHEST Respect, empathy, compassion, integrity and intelligence-and that’s what I’ve seen in this trial-despite the rat-face midget, (no offense to any other midgets).
        I’m just glad that Alyce has the people on this site & I hope we can find other ways to thank her after this…I know my former DV counselor, now attorney, and friend, (we’ve known each other since ’87, the first time my ex put me in the hospital when I was pregnant with our daughter. She was my rock while the kids were in Saudi-no extradition in family law case, unless of course, if it’s a WOMAN who’s there with her kids!). I’ll call “C” this week sometime & see if she can get us an email-or at LEAST pass along our love & appreciation

      • My understanding is that she told Samantha Alexander that she, Alyce, was “Just doing my job”. I don’t think she should have done it . . . her job is to help the person who killed their brother get off the hook, so it isn’t supportive of the family and shouldn’t have been said.

    • Gail Conlon….OMG I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps we could live next door to one another..

      I do have a question for anyone who knows: Did ALYCE really talk to one of TA’S sisters?

      • Yes ,she did. It was seen by Katie Cool Lady who is a blogger that sits behind TAs family and has befriended them. She has blogged on it and reported on it on an online radio show. KCL stated she could not hear what was said but that AL did approach Sam and speak with her.

        • I still don’t believe it. But perhaps she said “Hey could you please get your gang to stop trashing me everywhere?”

        • Frannie, do you happen to know who the author is, of the post that was cited above by Gail?
          The dramatic tone and writing style reminded me very much of KCL’s style. ????

          • Sable it is some woman and she posted it to the martinez support page on facebook I think.

            • Thanks, Gail!!!
              KCL is a BIG fan of JM. The style of writing sure reminds me of KCL’s.
              On another topic, I adore your gravatar image!
              At first I thought it was a polar bear, but then thought must be your family Husky or Akita?

          • IIRC, KCL was already posting her opinions about ALV on WS long, long ago, before the prosecution had even finished its chief. She had researched ALV online and was already plsnting seeds of discontent and accusing the expert of lying and of being a traitor to so-called “real” DV victims based on notjing more than finding ALVs name on the defense witness list.
            Imo, KCL has natural flair fir storytelling and is very charismatic. I fell for her style, at first, hook, line, and sinker and was hanging on every word over there at websleuths when i was a newbie, but then i noticed how she tried to discredit another poster there who she chose to be offended by, when the poster never intended to be offensive, and in fact was only making a logical point. What scared me about her was the way she set about rallying the troops, so to speak, by making nuanced insinuations about the poster being a troll, and it was creepy to witness how manipulative she could be at getting other posters to try to gang up on the innocent poster who i do not believe was a troll at all, and the next minute she could be so utterly charming sharing details about her brave life, caring for her elderly father, succoring her brother in his ordeal of battling schizophrenia, and their family dealing with the repercussions stemming from the murder and dismemberment of KCLs sister by psychpath brothers now on death row.
            I have not ever followed her blog (didnt realize she had one- i was under impression she was in some profession where she had clients???), but I have seen enough of her posts to gather she is a drama queen AND a big QUEEN BEE over at WS.
            I believe she BELIEVES she saw ALV approach Sam Alexander, but I am much LESS sure that what she thinks she saw is actually what happened. Very curious to learn more.

            • She’s the typical Queen Bee/Mean Girl type. Wants to be head of the pack at Websleuths and woe to ANYONE who dares get in her way.

            • And she probably lies/exaggerates about events in her life too. Those types always do….make the story more and more grandiose to see what they can get away with.

      • I live on an organic farm in the Poconos-on top of a “hill”, (although its a “mountain” to this FloriDUH girl!)-come on up!! 😉

    • When the poster says that she’s never seen an expert do this or that, it begs the question, how many social science experts has she ever seen testify in the first place? Newsflash lady: The rights the laws in the country are established to protect are Jodi’s. Not yours, or Juror 5, or tacky tatooed recovery drug addict family members of monstrous “victims”, or Nancy Grace, or Jean Casarez. I know that there is some stupid Victim Bill of Rights crap in Arizona that sounds like nothing but a bunch of tripe eroding the Constitutional rights of the people of Arizona. But if there is any justice at all in the world, or if any good can come of this mess, maybe it will be that people who deserve to wear black robes, who deliberate in quiet chambers behind courtrooms where people act like educated citizens instead of zobified mutants, will declare that the utter disregard for the rule of law that resulted in this freak show won’t ever happen again.

    • If this person will “ACCEPT *NO MORE* THAN AN OPEN COURT PUBLIC ADMONISHMENT” of ALV, then why the hell did he/she blather on about what else ALV should be forced to do? Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs…

      • And “CHEERING SECTION”? I haven’t seen a cheering section for ALV… Hmmm, did I missing something?

        • I think she means Mrs Arias, her sister, their friends, and the regular spectators who happen into the courtroom, not related to the HLN mob.

      • I love the part where she says for those concerned about ALV’s career being ruined, she had it coming?

        For testifying in a trial she should have her life destroyed?? What the heck kind of thinking is that??? I am apalled

        • She should have her life destroyed? ??? Omg, see…. this is the kind of people that shouldn’t be walking our streets! Really, was it that serious to HER, that she felt like someone’s life should be DESTROYED? !!! WOW, she’s the one that needs help!

          • Exactly what I think,..and THIS is just one reason that the things going on in this trial are depressing me that our society, and so-called” justice” system, has REALLY gone downhill.
            I understand that part of this is because it’s in Arizona-but the rabid anti-Jodi viewers are international.
            And, after watching poor Casey get railroaded last year; now THIS? We need to seriously reconsider putting these trials on TV. Yes, WE wouldn’t get to watch it & be supportive of the defense-BUT, I would rather NOT watch it than watch what this is doing to Jodi, defense witnesses and attorneys.
            And the so-called “lawyers” on HLN should be disbarred!! They seem to have confused this trial for the Salem Witch Trials…

        • Me too! It’s one thing to disagree with someone’s professional opinion and be vocal about it, but I can’t grasp why some are taking it so damn personally. And the idea of “real” victims being upset just baffles me as well…I’m a “real” victim and I don’t think that means I now need to have the same opinion and thoughts as every other victim of DV.

          These people are sick.

    • What this says to me is that the prosecution is unsure of the state’s case. Many years ago, I went to watch a civil court case where my father’s client was suing a local city government / police department. During a lunch break, I asked a man what time it was. We went back into the courtroom – and the next thing I knew, there was a sidebar, followed by my father’s asking me what I had said to the man in the hall. It took a few minutes for me to realize what man he meant…and I told him I had asked the man what time it was. My father then told me the man was an alternate juror and the defense was trying to say that I was trying to influence him. So I took away two lessons: 1) Never talk to strangers in a courtroom; and 2) An attorney unsure of his case will represent the most innocent of actions as something sinister. Based on the compassion and fairness Alyce LaViolette has shown during her testimony, I believe that she probably saw pain in the faces of the Alexander family and she tried to ease that pain. Although she did nothing wrong – the family is not the trier of fact, after all – she has probably learned that you can’t help everyone.

    • “I WILL ACCEPT NO MORE THAN AN OPEN COURT PUBLIC ADMONISHMENT FOR THIS WITNESS”

      (David Spade’s SNL character voice):

      And you are?

  7. I don’t know if I can take the little man today!!!! I’ll see how long I can last…he’s such a source of irritation for me!!!!!!

  9. I refuse to watch him….I rather not give him any of my energy or power…..he’s got a lot of Bad energy to him!!

    • Are you in OK too? There are a bunch of us it seems. Maybe we can start a baseball team.

  14. For the viewing pleasure of those who may have missed it at 8 am EST… 😀

    The perfect video and song mashup for this media mess (and JM’s behavior!):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzcuwq2OpM4

    “Circus” & “Womanizer” live. Seriously, the atmosphere created here is EXACTLY how I feel watching JM’s effed-up fairy tale ‘Alyce in Juanderland’… And the lyrics, how fantastically apropos!

    JM (coincidently TA as well, hmmm…) :
    “I feel the adrenaline moving through my veins,
    Spotlight’s on me and I’m ready to break!
    I’m like a performer, the dancefloor is my stage,
    Better be ready, hope that you feel the same!

    All eyes on me in the center of the ring just like a circus!
    When I crack that whip, everybody gon’ trip just like a circus!
    Don’t stand there watching me, follow me, show me what you can do!
    Everybody let go, we can make a dancefloor just like a circus…

    There’s only two types of guys out there:
    Ones that can hang with me and ones that are scared!
    So baby, I hope that you came prepared…
    I run a tight ship so beware!

    I’m a like the ringleader, I call the shots.
    (Call the shots!)
    I’m like a firecracker, I make it hot
    When I put on a show!”

    And

    JM (again, TA, too…) :
    “Boy, don’t try to front; I know just what you are!
    Boy, don’t try to front; I know just what you are!
    You say I’m crazy?!? I’ve GOT your crazy!
    You’re nothin’ but a Womanizer!

    Daddy-O, you got the swagger of champion…
    Too bad for you that you just cant find the right companion.
    I guess when you have one too many, it makes it hard…
    It could be easy, ’cause who you are, that’s just who you are, baby!

    Lollipop, you must mistake me, you’re a sucker
    To think that I would be a victim – not another!
    Say it, play it how you wanna, but no way I’m ever gonna fall for you…
    Never you, baby!

    Womanizer, Woman, Womanizer
    You’re a Womanizer!
    Oh, Womanizer, oh,
    You’re a Womanizer, baby!
    You you you are! You you you are a
    Womanizer, Womanizer, Womanizer!
    (Womanizer!)

    Boy, don’t try to front; I know just what you are!
    Boy, don’t try to front; I know just what you are!
    You say I’m crazy?!? I’ll SHOW you crazy!
    You’re nothin’ but a Womanizer!”

    You say I’m crazy? I’ve GOT your crazy, I’ve GOT your crazy… I’LL SHOW YOU CRAZY!

        • Ashley do you think these women are going to admit having an affair in a public trial??? With the threat of the Mormon mafia?? How could ALV interview them and have that be objective!!????

          • Oh, hell no. These women have probably been trained from birth to keep their mouths shut. It’s sad!

            • Yes, I do believe that. They have so much more to lose by talking than to just keep their mouths shut. 🙁

      • Nancy Beth One of TA text female buddies. mentioned. I remember there was a married LDS female friend of TA that was interviewed going through a seperation that was interviewed on HLN show but I can not remember her name.

    • Im 63 and into the 50’s music but I did watch Britney and that was very good great way to start the morning 🙂

      • I know, isn’t it awesome! LOL! (It’s not my usual type of music, either, BTW)

        Like she says, “I’m Britney, BITCH!”

      • I also love, Tonya, that the precious kitty in your picture looks like it’s praying… For Jodi? 😉

        • Or maybe it’s praying, “Please, Lord, make this ignorant assh*le Martinez shut his big mouth!” LOL!

          Lord, I apologize for that… And please be with the pygmies down in New Guinea…

  16. Good morning everyone.

    This trial, the traviban, COMMON SENSE, and the public STUPIDITY have all RE-CONFIRMED my desire to reside with all the cats I can handle (9 at present LOL) and have my “next door neighbor” live 100 miles away…

    I am amazed at the gross misconduct of the so-called “professionals” related to this fiasco – from samantha stephens right down to the biased media. The hatred, threats, terrorist tactics, shameful behavior of many of the public against innocents, against family members, against strangers is mind-boggling.

    If aliens were to land on earth at this point in time looking for examples of “life forms” on this planet, they would be sorely disappointed. The only things humans do and do very well is inflict hurt and pain on each other and when that doesn’t work with words, we use our hands and if that isn’t enough we choose guns, bombs, and war. It’s disgusting. It pains me to no end that I am responsible for putting 2 people on this earth that will have to grow up in this society. We teach them to be caring, compassionate, empathetic, loyal, trustworthy and respectful hoping they can protect themselves from what’s “out there”.

    I’m sorry I’m on a soapbox this morning…I’m shutting up now.

    I think I may need to add a little something to my diet coke cans…LOL LOL LOL

    Thank GOD for this site (SJ, MB and JC – in particular). I don’t care if you live on Mars, have a camp in Afghanistan, have a compound in Utah, head a militia, are related to Osama, have the secret to curing cancer and won’t share it, are making $50,000 a day from the traffic at this site… don’t care – YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME and I THANK GOD EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR YOU AND EVERYONE WHO SHARES AND POSTS HERE. It’s seems simple, but it’s honest. Thank you.

  17. Posted this on the old page, seems I’m always behind the curve of switching pages.

    I was just looking at Michael Keifer’s twitter site.

    Here’s what I found. I don’t know how many of these folks are on this site, but it looks like the tide may be turning. This is not what the tweets looked like a few weeks ago.

    Lara Martinez ‏@liebenlaramutti 15h
    @michaelbkiefer Maybe you should take some time off so you don’t come off so snarky and pro-defense in a case where there is NO DEFENSE.
    Retweeted by Michael Kiefer
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    RETWEETS
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    FAVORITES
    5:16 PM – 8 Apr 13 · Details
    Lise Lasalle ‏@LiseLasalle 14h
    @liebenlaramutti @michaelbkiefer Snarky? You must mistake Michael for Juan Martinez. if there is NO DEFENSE, there is NO PROSECUTION.
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    CitKane ‏@4citkane 14h
    @liebenlaramutti @michaelbkiefer Unfair! Michael has done an unbiased job. U should follow Nancy Grace if you want the fairy tail version.
    Expand
    bragbag ‏@JackalEntertain 14h
    @liebenlaramutti @michaelbkiefer you don’t even need a defense. Juan hasn’t proved anything that we didn’t already know. He’s a loser
    Expand
    cindy ‏@cashleys13 14h
    @liebenlaramutti @michaelbkiefer The only way to be is pro defense in this trial. Martinez in it for his own fame, not for the truth
    Expand
    Don Cook ‏@doncoo3521 13h
    @liebenlaramutti No Lara its called SELF DEFENSE. Juan old school and effective but he’s losing the jury. HLN loves him.
    Expand

    • Oh, Al, thanks so much for posting this! ((HUGS)) There is some sanity left in the world… There IS hope for humanity!

    • Oh…. THAT is so nice to see that. I think ALV has done a lot for the defense in this case.

  18. I have finally become convinced that 90% of the population is living in some alternate universe then we are. I know we have jokingly asked ourselves whether they are actually watching the same trial but now the only logical answer I can come up with is, no, they must be watching it in some parallel universe where Jodi is actually guilty. It’s the only answer that makes any sense.

    • It’s called mass delusion, they are all delusional. I picture them like thousands of cochroaches, they hear something that is pro Jodi and they scurry at break neck speed around the internet posting their hate comments and threats.

      It really is quite disturbing.

  19. Ok, I dragged my lazy ass outta bed for the dreadful daily waiting game. Roll call please!

    Here!

  21. Okay, I’m as prepared as I’ll ever be for JM’s continuation of the most hair-pullingly tedious/borderline torturous Cross in the history of the world. I took my Klonopin (an anti-anxiety medicine – benzodiazepine) AND my Inderal (a low dose beta-blocker that both helps control acute anxiety and lower BP). I have an extra of each within reach in case of emergency! 😀

    I’m gonna try to quell the urge to get plastered while JM is rude, belligerent, whining to Judge Dredd, and/or raising his voice. I will remember to take deep breaths.

    If I start shouting obscenities or writing in all caps, please be patient with me. Okay, who’s ready for this?

    • Little Caesar makes my self-control go right out the window just like all that Lamaze shit did when I gave birth – both times!! LOL LOL

    • its to bad I would have taken a rope the one that jodi threw away and hang myself if we have another day ot JM wanta be popular and paid off to do what he is doing

      • love all your kittie’s arnt they just the best companions to have no more travis for meeeeeeeee

    • Oh now I’m jealous, all I have is BC powder. Thanks to that that little shit, I ran out of my lorazepam yesterday : ((.

      • You’re welcome to come on over, LC… Open invitation! I’ll share my pills and booze. I’m a nice person.

  22. Hello All Good morning!

    *ADMIN- Will you please send Ashley an Email with my email address.
    Sorry Ashley, I didn’t get that to you. I saw it this morning on the other post that I didn’t realize was up.

    • Or Admin, send me an email with Ashley’s email, either way is fine with me. Thanks a lot 🙂

          • Sure. *ADMIN – Please send AA my email… or send me an email with AA’s email address. Thank you!!! 🙂

            (I feel like we’re passing notes in class and we’re trying not to get busted, LOL!)

  24. Ok, guys iv already taken my BC Powder before Fartinez gets to my head.

    Praying ALV and the defense has an even better day today.

    Team Jodi★

      • Yea, thats the ONLY thing that takes away the pain quick, IN 2MIN, before Martinez gets started. Lol

        • Goody’s Cool Orange Powders. They.Will.Change.Your.LIFE.! And they’re YUMMY, like an orange pixie stick. No shit. O.O

  25. I hope ALV writes a book about domestic violence hidden under the guise of cults such as in this case.

  26. Ditat Deus stare time again.

    At least one thing about Judge Stephen’s court – consistency with late starts.

    • Can you believe how disrepectful this is to the jury? I mean, being late a few times is understandable, but EVERY day is over the top. Someone in authority over this AZ legal system needs to take control of these proceedings. I’m astonished that this actually goes on. Maybe I’m just not in the know on how the court system in our country works?

    • It’s pretty sad that I plan my entire day around this and race back home from errands to be back before 12:30 ET.

  27. I can’t watch anymore. It bothers me to see him battering and abusing ALV. Just thinking that she is looking at another day of abuse is causing me to have knots in my stomach and I have that icky feeling like I used to get as a child and was being abused. 🙁

    • I agree. She had a little less pep in her step yesterday compared to Thursday. You would think LV was on trial. I feel horribly about the way she is being treated. However, I just keep saying over and over to myself.. $250.00 an hour, $250.00 an hour, $250.00 an hour.

      • It could be 1000.00 an hour and it still wouldn’t be worth being treated like that. It’s frightening that in this day and age, a professional can treat someone like that and it’s okay?

        It’s not okay by me! 🙁

        • True!!! I really wish she would say more things like “I am a professional expert in my field” when JM tries to cut her down and question her decisions, experience and credentials.

          • most of the blame i assign to that incompetent, arrogance and stupid judge stephens, who flowing from her monumental hubris and unbounded conceit to take this case has revealed her as totally out of her depth
            which taken on its own, in traffic court would be comic …
            BUT IT IS A CAPITAL CASE

            her rulings on objections to jm’s continuous msbehavior , which is well documented here, are atrocious, and have denied jodi a fair trial and all the other protections available in the constitution, and elsewhere

  28. Good Afternoon everybody!! :D)

    Here is something from WAT – will make you smile! LOL

    WildAboutTrial‏@WildAboutTrial5m
    Juan continues to prepare his notes, Det. Flores helps. Nurmi just smiled, whispered and patted Flores on the back. #JodiArias

    9:29 AM – 9 Apr 13 · Details
    Brenda Lindes‏@adnerb_sednil5m
    @WildAboutTrial u kidding??

    9:29 AM – 9 Apr 13from Fernandina Beach, FL · Details
    Me‏@PopStarMaker4m
    @WildAboutTrial Det Flores??

    9:30 AM – 9 Apr 13 · Details
    DawnMichael‏@DawnMichael4m
    @WildAboutTrial back SIDE? lol

  29. TA needs to be exposed for what he was – a con-artist to the core, a charlatan & hustler that manipulated women to get whatever sick pleasure he was seeking at the time. LDS, PrePaid Legal, “Motivational Speaker” where most of the crap he spewed was made-up nonsense that played to the same types of low-intelligence scum that he himself was a proud member.

    I’m really just disgusted by this entire farce of a trial. Our justice system is tearing apart at the seams due to the injection of money, fame, and power into it – and for the cold, hard evidence that this is so one need look no further than this trial.

    • I agree 100% – defense needs to just come out blazing and get ALL that sh#t out there so there are no questions about his character left to defend. Sorry to the family – but i don’t believe they are sincere and look what they are ALL doing to an person who is supposed to be innocent until PROVEN guilty. And she’s a victim of abuse on top of it all! She should not be abused again.

  32. I already know I’m only going to be able to take a few minutes of rude and evil Juan Martinez and his puppet judge before I need to get away from them.

  34. Late start as usual, I assume? I’m at work today so sneaking peaks at the HLN blog and here when I can. Keep me posted folks!

      • Ex parte is a Latin term for “one side only.” In other words, in this case, one side (prosecution or defense) is communicating or meeting with the judge about a motion they’ve filed. This often happens with Motions to Compel, etc.– something that is required by the rules that the other party hasn’t done, or something the judge has already ruled on that the other side is doing.

        Any communication with the judge is considered ex parte if the other side is not involved. And that’s generally not allowed. So, if there’s an ex parte meeting occurring, there’s some special circumstance involved that requires it.

  36. I have to leave in 15 minutes for a long meeting in any case. So you guys hold down the fort.

    • I’m sure the LDS/Pre-Paid Legal is bank-rolling most of them to be there. They are true “job creators” lol

    • Seriously! WHO just waits in line at the courtroom every single morning hoping to get a seat? Do they literally have no lives?

  41. “Every girl’s crazy ’bout a sharp dressed man” Any way THIS girl is! Nurmi is lookin’ FINE today! HE HAS OUT DONE HIMSELF! Grrr 😉

            • 🙂 I didn’t see you as “condemning” me…actually, I welcome a reply from you 😉 I hope everyone realizes that I enjoy the beauty in life. There is beauty everywhere and when I notice it I express myself. Please forgive me if I appear as a manizing kind of woman. This is not my intention. I certainly DO appreciate when a man is fashion forward and is not afraid to break out of the “conservative” box, so to speak. 🙂

    • It’s one where the judge meets with only one side. Under normal circumstances this is the rarest of rares, or so I hear, because it is assumed that this gives the side meeting with the judge a chance to sway the judge or provide the judge with info not available to the other side.

      This judge does it as a regular sort of thing. It may be different in a DP case though. Any comments from our sharp-eyed Legal Eagles?

  47. judge just said we will have a meating in my room goo to wildabout to get there updates

  49. Ok, whats up with the ex parte meeting now? Any ideas? Have to do with the mistrial motion?

  50. “The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine…”

    Well, we know the first part is true. That’s for sure

  51. ex parte is one sided only court hearing to request something. Judge will either grant, deny or think about it and rule later.

  53. Since we have not heard a motion on the mistrial filed Sunday, I’m going to guess that it will be turned down, as it makes no sense to wait2-3-4 days if the judge intends to through this trial out now.

    I don’t believe that the defense actually wants the mistrial, why would they? They have made a strong enough case that the pros can not disprove it, which is the standard. People need to remember that the prosecution needs to prove it was not self defense, the defense doesnt have to prove it was.

    Many people have asked what will happen in the next trial if this one is mistrialed… To be honest, i dont think there will be another trial, i do not think that any judge can argue that the defendant could get a fair trial after this one. For one thing, the prosectution has had a chance to bias the witnesses now. For example, yesterday ALV was told about things that were talked about IN TRIAL by other witnesses, which she can not be asked to “forget” for a future trial. She can not have knowledge of this information before she testifies, which is why any possible witnesses are not allowed in the courtroom before they testify.

    Infact, i thought that was a HUGE mistake by Juan yesterday. He stuck a knife in his own back when he told ALV what was testified to. He started off by saying “would you be surprised to know that that came up in testimony”..but AVLV was smart and answered “i do know that anyone did infact testify to that”, and so she wouldnt answer…Then juan fucked the poodle by saying “well Mrs.Arias Did in fact testify to that very thing”…Of course he miss characterized jodis testimony, but now he has prejadiced this witness. He can continue to question her now, but i do not see how she can be brought forward to testify in a future trial.

    Also, this judge can not tell witnesses to NOT watch the trial on TV/WEB etc, AFTER this trial is over. So now all of those witnesses can go and watch the trial, before the next trial? No WAY! They will have to charge her with new charges and hope that the defense takes a plea. At which point anything more than manslaughter will be BULL SHIT. IMO

  54. The only thing I am curious about…. the judge handed both sides two pieces of paper to read!! I wonder what was on them. No reaction from Martinez, JW smiled but she always smiles.

  56. I think this chamber meeting may have to do with ALV talking to TA’s fly member, since ALV is also in the mtg with them. Also, since it was broadcasted yesterday on Dr. Flu’s show by Ms. Candlewick and another juror watcher, I think JM must be making a big deal about it. Just speculating here.

    • Per WAT tweets, TA’s sis – Samantha was taken in too and has since returned to her seat, so has JM.

      • This page is all messed up! I was giving some at the bottom, and it appeared no one was posting– until I saw all these new posts up towards the top!

  60. Good Morning All,

    While we’re on ‘break’ once again I just wanted to say (again and again) I appreciate everyone here, your input, your comments. The other day I was feeling sad for our world b/c of this case and the replies really blew me away. I am always reminded there IS good in this world. As a great wizard once said; “Go back to the shadow!” and I believe once this trial is over and exposed for the fiasco it is, they will go back to the shadows.

    • Hi CindyP, please don’t feel sad. This is life and it is what it is at the present moment. Gratefulness makes us happy and I see that in your message. That’s a great start. I hope you havea nice day 🙂

      • Thx, JSuzy… 🙂 I’ll just admit right now that I do go ‘in and out’ to watch this as all the hatred thrown towards Jodi reminds me of the vile comments said to me when abuse came out. Although I was the victim, I was the accused (I didn’t kill anyone). It was my fault for being abused. Now I’m seeing this in so many victims and it seems nothing is changed.

        At the same time, as difficult as it is – I think it may be possible that abusive behavior towards a victim of abuse may come to light for all to see. At least that is my hope.

  62. Looks like JM is back into “Arrogant Asshole” mode already.

    SJ
    Team Jodi

  63. Okay – thought I was brave but don’t know if I can watch. I see a “kinder, gentler” JM and judge but it is too late. The damage is done and all is biased. ALV and JW both look exhausted to me. Oh snap – and there he goes.

  64. I’m assuming there’s bombshell today which is why Mtz is acting like a dipshit swaying the jury.

    • OMG – me too! I actually get ‘anxiety attacks’ which I had under control (until recently)! IDK how ALV and the attorneys do it every day. If I were a juror, I would have been arrested for contempt already.

      • Talk to your doctor about Inderal 10-20mg po prn anxiety. I take it as needed along with my Klonopin (clonazepam), and it’s been nothing short of a miracle for me!

  68. What an FING snotrag…..he is such a scumbag…I am very sorry for cursing…

  71. ”Mommy,she’s not being responsive!Scold her!Bad,bad girl!”
    Sheesh….

  73. Do we have any body language experts here? I hope Nurmi is not ready to quit. His hand over his nose tells me he’s had it with this guy.

  79. Alyse stay with us….it’s not about you ok. Don’t take Mtz’s bullshit personal.

  80. Mommy said “Move on, JM”!! Chronic complainer, that JM and thin-skinned to boot.

  82. ALV is just trying to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Isn’t that what this little piss ant wants?!! Obviously not…he is performing a disservice to the people of Arizona!

    • It’s pretty much exaggerating symptoms for personal gain. In this case, it would be to avoid prison. (Not sure how accurate that is, it is my understanding of secondary gain.)

    • Secondary gain is a term that I use being an RN. At its very basic, when a patient is being assessed for a complaint ie… An injury to the leg is the patient trying to make the injury worse because they are drug seeking, are they trying to make it look worse because they are involved in a law suit where they will receive money for the injury is the patient saying these things to get sympathy from people. Basically, is the patient using the injury or lack of an injury to be able to try to manipulate in some way. I think JM is saying Jodi is saying she was abused in order to answer why she killed him. So secondary gain would be if she gets the “diagnosis” of battered woman she will GAIN “getting off in self defense” . Basically JM is saying Jodi made it up

  85. Could you imagine going home in the evening after dealing with Martinez all day knowing that you have to do it again for the next several days? That’s part of his strategy. Wear you down and make you ill by being a prick at all times.

    • Now imagine THAT when Jodi had to do it,when she had no home to go back to but a jail cell,undernourished and already in a precarious situation.

  86. shitface has to be an only child – he doesn’t know how to play in the sandbox….OMG OMG –

    holy shit this is AMAZING…

  87. Alyce looks sad, tired…wonder if she went to bed with a headache last night, like I did.

    • Even though it’s to JM’s whining, “Judge, she’s not answering the question!”

    • She has to, to keep Juan butt out of the fire so he doesn’t start being argumenative with AL. He is walking a fine line with the mistrial motions.

  93. Wow, all he can come back with is “unresponsive” when AL is giving an anwer.

  94. He has Stephens wrapped around his little finger. I’ve never seen anything like it.

  95. I keep rolling my eyes at this idiot. I hope my mom wasn’t correct and they are going to get stuck like that.

  96. He (JM) puts me into orbit! So annoying! AL is so chill and just will not fall prey to any of his poop. It is amusing to watch her get under his skin. 🙂

  99. How could she POSSIBLY speak to TA???
    Is he serious or what??????????????

  100. Holy SHIT…

    He is a DISGRACE….

    No counselor, there are 3 sides – hers, his and the truth…..

  102. What is this jerk trying to imply? That if she believes Jodi she must, by definition, be biased??

    • Maybe JM got a spanking from his boss and the judge for being such a pig and disgrace to the justice system?

  105. I’m almost glad I have to leave soon for a few hours. This is painful to watch. Juan is such a jerk. I hope no one he cares for is ever a victim of DV.

  106. “90% of all communication is non verbal, right?!” LOOOOOOONG PAUSE, Alyce smiling at JM like, “You’re right, it is… And this non-verbal communication means you’re a dumbfuck!”

    ZING!!!

  107. Everyone can see that 90% of what is really going on between their conversation shows that mtz is a LOSER

    • And there must have been a good reason she had to do that-happy children with loving parents dont just abandon their homes…No,I wouldnt think Bill Arias is a credible source,not in its entirety at least.

  110. The whole “yes or no” response is just his new method to twist what she has said.

  111. ALV now has ‘live” material for her next keynote speech. How an abuser can play mind games, use control, twist words, believe and accept only what he wants to, shift the blame, how prickly they are, how impatient and insulting their words can be, keen on humiliation for the other party, how the abused can be worn down, not be able to think straight, doubt themselves, give up, etc etc. Such a typical scene for those of us who have been there. Daily occurence, non-stop, relentless…

  112. OMFG! What parent hasn’t been lied to by their kids? seriously? it’s part of growing up. Jodi i find you guilty of having once been a normal child.

  113. No matter how JM slices and dices this, the jury has heard Travis speak and he clearly showed his abusivness, and deceit.

  114. He’s bringing up the video interrogation given to HLN!!! He can’t do that!!!

  115. Am I the only one who’s looking forward to hearing the Jurors’ questions? LOL!

  116. So we have, thats why the Proecuter released the vidoe tape of the parents interview! What a scumbag!

    • Is he allowed to do that??????
      How convenient,especially if he can’t be held responsible for that video being out in the media.

  117. Now hes bringing up inadmissable evidence. AV should not have used that as evidence. She was right not too. And to interview the family? He misleading everyone into thinking she should things she wouldn’t ordinarily do.

  120. Alyce wasn’t talking to Jodi to see if she was a liar. She was talking to see if she had been in a domestic violence relationship. How the hell is he allowed to take it this far?

    • Martinez point is that if she’s a liar and always have been one,then she must have lied about DV as well.
      CHEAP SHOT!!

  122. Her parents turned her over to the cops at age 14!!!! Would anyone trust them after that??? She probably was forced into the job of live in babysitter for her sibs as well!!!

  123. MISTRIAL!! Asshole is now bringing up Daddy’s interview w/police!!! What a scumbag!! How can he bring this up???? And “thanks daddy for all your frickin support!”

    • This is something that really upsets me. A lack of acceptance and support from her own family! Knowing that they were accusing her of a murder, you would think one would first talk to their child before they too joined forces with the other side to throw stones at their own child! I would like to say, “Who would do such a thing to their child?”, but I won’t since I can personally vouch for blood relatives that would rather believe someone else, than one who grew up amongst themselves. They would just so easily not only throw stones at you, but even spit on you!. So, its a lesson for all parents – unconditional love, validation, stand by your child no matter what. Otherwise the child will go to extremes to find that which you could not give! I am just so upset and riled up now..

      • I wonder how they are feeling right now,knowing that it’s their words that are used by the Prosecutor to crucify their daughter.Hello?Common sense people!When your daughter is being held for murder,you dont go about trashing her for the white lies or misbehaviour during her teenage years!!Soooo wrong!!You must know it’s gonna come and bite you in the ass.The sad thing being that in this case it’s gonna bite Jodi ass….

        • I wonder if they even knew why they were being interviewed. They may have lied to them and said they were just accusing her of stealing the gun or something like that.

          • Doubtful.However,I wouldnt know that,in my country when you’re being asked to go to the police station and testify ,you are entitled to know what you’re being questioned for.

  124. This is more evidence to me Martinez is deliberately throwing this trial. How could ANY attorney refer to evidence not admitted into trial?

    • I remember reading a post here the other day ,saying that he’s deliberately throwing the case because the Mormoms already have a plan to kill her if she’s aquitted.Dreading to even think this might be true.

      • That was my husband’s take! He went from believing Jodi was guilty, to believing this theory after watching him do the Snow White deal.

        • so good to know,I thought it was sth widely speculated by many people.Tell your husband he gave me nightmares with that take of his,LOL!

  125. JM is performing for all his peeps out there in the wild-blue-yonder. If there is anyone who has seen his past ‘performances’ in other trials, was he as much of a jerk then too? Just curious. The HLN factor is such a shot-in-the-arm for him. They created a monster here.

  126. He makes such an issue about how she interpreted text messages and emails etc. But when it comes to his case it’s all ok to interpret them how he sees fit. Can’t have it both ways little man. (the word “man” is used loosely)

  129. Arrgggh I can’t watch today!!

    Is the lil man throwing the case on purpose???

    How can he mention something that important not in evidence?

    Oh, he saying the jury already knows about it because of him??

    JACKASS!!

  130. I’m not sure I can take much more. I’m at the end of my rope. Sad, sad, sad. Makes me want to cry.

    • The responsible motorcycle riding dad with unregistered guns that hits his kids??? He is a great parent that can judge honesty???

    • That’s fine, it is describing jodi’s behaviour as being abused. The haters think it somehow proves she is “crazy”, but it doesn’t.

      Defense will just have to turn it around.

  135. JM is intolerable, but ALV is MORE THAN holding her own against him! He’s coming off as a complete douchenozzle, and Alyce is laughing at him on the inside. The jury can see this, mark my words!

  136. How could they allow that in with Jodi’s mother there at trial the whole time?

    Potential witnesses cannot be present in the courtroom.

  137. Can Jodi’s attorneys go to a higher court and get this thing stopped? This is outrageous.

  138. Here we go….HOLY BATSHIT this is a FIASCO. Underhanded, UNETHICAL – holy living shit….

  141. this is crap…now he is admitting to with holding evidence uh…why didn’t the defense witness have access to this interview….another argument for misconduct by the state

    • agreed, and if I lived in Arizona, I would file a complaint against him as well. Only people that live in Arizona can do it.

  144. Of course the tape doesn’t impeach Jodi at all and doesn’t impeach ALV because she is talking about domestic violence between Travis and Jodi.

    This is just bullshit grandstanding.

    But this is a clear case of misconduct by Juan Martinez. He should lose his law license having allowed a document dump on the media prior to today.

  146. Why have they sent the jury out? Its nonsense, they should be allowed to hear Alyce testify.

    Its a foregone conclusion that Jennifer can’t get any objection sustained.. what a goddamn farce this trial is.

  147. And Dad is so believable ….. based on what? A coerced interview with a detective with a clear motive to trick the parents into anything incriminating?????

  148. I’m now standing firmly with Renee… This fucker is OBVIOUSLY trying to throw this trial because he knows he doesn’t have a damn case!

      • Martinez is living, walking, breathing proof that YES, someone is that stupid, LOL! They should experiment on him like a lab rab.

  149. If the jury is who decides, what is the purpose of bringing this tape in and asking LV questions with the jury NOT THERE?

    • Because it’s not in Evidence and JM wants to bring it in. It’s too prejudicial.

  150. As usual, I’m confused….how does the tape of Jodi’s abusive father make it into evidence, but not the emails, letters etc. that clearly show TA to be abusive and his “friends” to be liars??

  151. I feel sorry for Nurmi and JW because they have to listen to JM during sidebars. They are frustrating but at least they shut his voice off for a minute or 10.

  153. If the jury is allowed to see this they are not going to like this, using her own father against her.

    • This is a cheap shot, but I am not surprised. He is a dirty rat that. However, her father saying she is a liar is not any big revelation. All kids lie to their parents at one time or another. Its maddening that he doing this, but its all JM has at this point.

      • Its an extremely cheap shot, Flores interviews the parents and reels them in when they’re vulnerable.. this is one huge sick game. Her father was an abuser, so anything he says can be disregarded, its all a heap of shit. Flores has lied twice!

  157. Go Alice Go!! How many teenagers have prob w/parents!!! Duh Juan, like that’s unusual?? What planet are u from??

  159. Take that you little shit…….GO ALYCE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  160. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is the oath you take before you take the stand. With Martinez it’s only the truth he wants to hear not the whole truth.

  161. Show the whole tape… You can’t take one sound bite out of context like that and it be reliable worth a shit.

    • WTF or rather WHOTF does rat-face think he is?? They can just bring that tape in, show 1 sentence, and ask Alyce if THAT “changes her mind”?? My god this guy is an arrogant little prick!!

      Sorry-I didn’t think they could just spring “new evidence” on the defense & witness?? I mean, obviously the defense knew about it-but it was never entered into evidence before, right? And this is the DEFENSES witness and rat-face brings it in in cross?? Am I missing something??!!

      I’m sitting here, just got out of quick shower, sat down holding my socks,..and daydreaming about cramming them into that weasel’s rat-faced mouth…

  163. What just happened? I stepped away for a minute and when I came back ALV was walking away. Is she done?

  164. I am not watching this, but is this an evidentiary hearing then, and not the trial?

  165. she want alv to see the entire interview we have not seen the entire interview either

  166. This has to be killing her parents – to see their own words twisted in this way. Regardless of whether they sucked as parents they are still her parents!

    • I’m sorry. When a parent is called in to the police station re. their child, why should their first instinct be to throw that child under a bus? They should’ve first asked what she was being accused of, and then decided, irrespective of what their personal view of their child was, to go into protective mode and just not say anything that would implicate her further. First of all, they didn’t bother to hear her side of it – and then they’d rather believe a stranger, a detective who obviously does not have her best interests at heart. Their immediate reaction from what I observed was to protect their own reputation as parents, as being good, and their child being the one that was bad and wrong. As a parent, I just don’t get it. They are both grown adults, with a child being accused of murdering someone !! I think it must have killed her more!!!! Now they can watch from the sidelines and see their child being humiliated and ripped apart. I hope it stings abit for them. Please forgive my rant, nothing bothers me more than when one’s own flesh and blood just throws you to the wolves. They could’ve made the decision to stand by her – THEN – BEFORE! Standing by her now, well, good for them and a small consolation for her.

      • Intro, I get what you mean. I just don’t see her parents as being very sophisticated and knowledgable of how they should have managed this event. I have to believe it blindsided them and they were in shock as they tried to wrap their heads around it.

        Maybe I cannot relate to the idea a parent would be initially more concerned with themselves in a moment like this – regardless of how sucky they were as parents.

        Although my parents never were abusive I could see my elderly dad thinking he was doing the right thing – being honest with law enforcement – and the thought that he was tossing me under the bus would not occur to him.

        • I’m sorry Rainy. I didn’t get mad at you or anything. I was just feeling upset about the issue of family that don’t instinctively want to protect their own. Their antennas should have gone up immediately when they were called in to the police stn re. JA. They could have listened and been noncommital with their response. But, I can see your point too. Its true that sometimes when one is unaware of the intricacies of law enforcement and wanting to be helpful etc that this situation could happen. Its all good, Rainy. I wasn’t going off on you. 🙂

      • Introspective,
        You are dead on RIGHT!! Disgusting parents, the first thing they thought about was themselves protecting their image, which is proof that they were child abusers because that is exactly how a parent who is an abuser would behave. Their lack of interest in their daughter physically and emotionally abusing her and neglecting her is transparent.

  167. we just have more and more cover up cover up cover the truth again and again 🙂

  168. Jodi’s parents are scum too. If you learn anything from this trial people it’s keep your mouth shut. You have the right to remain silent. Exercise that right. Jodi wouldn’t be in this mess if she had kept quiet. Her parents sure haven’t helped her either.

    • You know, I freakin’ love watching Law and Order, but always wondered why people were so mean to the police and detectives just when they came to question them. I would think – nobody would act like that cuz you want to get to the truth. Now i know the truth – if cops come question you , they are not there to find the truth. They are there for a convenient and easy suspect/conviction. Do what Joe Y said; Exercise that right to remain silent. It seems to be a necessity!

      • That is why Jodi is in the mess she is in. She didn’t really know her rights at all to have an attorney, or rather, didn’t understand what it meant.

        I doubt this case would have ever been the circus it turned out to being if she had had a lawyer from the get-go.

        Same for the parents.

        They just didn’t understand the police are not there to help you but to find a suspect and close the investigation.

      • Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You’re seeing it happen right before your eyes and ears people.
        Even if you have nothing to hide, say NOTHING.

        • Joe, This has been a huge take away for me! I know her parents were not great parents but I want to believe they had no idea how what they were saying would come back to haunt them like this.

      • cindy!!! I’ve said this same thing to my husband! He hates law enforcement. I’ve always been on their side but after watching this and seeing how the interrogations done without an attorney present have been distorted I will be way more cautious if I ever get into anything involving law enforcement!

        It really paints the picture of how your words CAN AND WILL be used against you.

        I’ve heard the miranda words many times but always felt they protected one who is innocent. Boy was I wrong. Law enforcement could give a rip about guilt or innocence – only blaming whoever they target.

        Scary lessons learned from this. And its a very sad commentary of the society we live in today

      • If the cops come question you, remember one thing…They are NOT your friend!! You don’t legally have to talk to the police.

        Sad thing is, people are intimidated by the police and they start talking and don’t know when to shut up.

  169. He’s still committed misconduct because he leaked those tapes publicly to prejudice the jury, if they watched television.

    • I’ve thought that also. It’s probably the only way she can manage to get thru this nightmare.

      She seems, at times, completely detached from all of it

        • My first impression of the judge was what is her physical problem? Watch her very closely and it appears she has a slight palsy–if so she may be on meds for that.

  175. ”Mr Martinez are you ready/
    OH YES,I am!!”
    Slow down,stud!! We know your blood-thirsty instinct!!

  176. How is it FAIR or LEGAL for asshole to leak the video to HLN, then bring it into court and try to catch the witness off guard to where the judge has to send the freaking jury out of the room!!????

    If I was on the jury I’d be fuming at the shenanigans of this grandstanding prosecutor piece of dung

    • I’m trying to figure out for the life of me why there are ‘rules’ that prosecutors and courts are supposed to abide by to allow for a fair trial. But – they seem to never be followed. Any legal experts out there – can you answer why this is so? Why are there laws for the courts but they do not have to ‘really’ follow them? Because if that were the case, then this should have been called a mistrial a long time ago. AND it should never have been a DP case in the first place.

      • Apparently in AZ, they’re merely a suggestion because nobody seems to be holding anyone accountable in all of this!

  177. I just LOVE (insert sarcasm) how Juan questions Alyce!
    “So you are saying it was NECESSARY to apologize to the defendant when you first met her?”
    Alyce “Yes, apparently I did feel that way bcuz I said it.”
    JM ” I know you say it was necessary but you were COMPELLED to apologize to the defendant?”

    My God, dude!!! STFU and sit your scrawny ass down! He is so utterly childlike in his questioning when he doesn’t get her to say what he wants! He is such a joke!!!
    He doesn’t get it bcuz it involves decency and respect of which he has none!!!

    (I know that’s from yesterday’s testimony but I keep reliving it in my head!)

  178. Martinez must not have children. I thought all children told parents what they want to hear and then do whatever they want. Otherwise, a kid would never get of of the house if the parents really knew what they were up to. Cynical? Maybe.

    • You know you do need to have sex to have children.I cant imagine there’s a woman out there who could put up with this guy!

  180. So anything that Jodi may have lied about in her teens or throughout her life is going to be attributed to Ms LV’s assessment?

    • Well if LYING in ones teens laid foundation for lying as an adult, therefore elevating our crime’s to the DP, we’d have no one left on earth

    • Did I hear JM call “ESTEBAN” Steve earlier? LOL that made me laugh because Flores makes it a point to call himself ESTEBAN when hes on the stand. I guess it makes him feel more important than just “Steve”. What a couple of clowns. I love how JM gestures to Flores and he hops out of his chair for him.

  181. I heard a while back, that the defense had a horrible time trying to get the state to give them evidence pertaining to this case. I would think that, along with all this other circus side show bs, would be enough for any judge to rule misconduct. This is complete garbage! I tried to be patient with this judge, but enough is enough, she needs to be removed from this case, and if it takes a mistrial, then so be it.
    We will all just have to pitch in for bail to make sure Jodi doesn’t have to sit in there one more day while the buffoons prepare for another trial. And it needs to be in another jurisdiction for sure. Does anyone here know if its declared mistrial is it more often than not moved to another jurisdiction.

    • Would sending complaints about this judge matter to anyone important down there in the sunshine state?

      • I know that people that live in Arizona can file complaints to the bar against lawyers, not sure about Judges, but I assume she is also an attorney.

  183. With HLN she wouldn’t get a fair trial anywhere…what jury pool hasn’t been ‘tarnished”?

    • THAT will be a major problem in a mistrial, it would be impossible to find 12-18 people who haven’t heard anything about this trial-Thanks to HLN.
      What about on appeal, do ya’ll think even in an appeal, that Judges may be compromised? (Actually, more & more talking heads sound like THEY are getting tired of both rat-face AND the judge who lost control of this courtroom awhile ago!)

  184. At times I have to stop myself and not throw my headphones across the floor listening to this *%$#

  185. Did they change the discovery rules in AZ and now The Prosecutor just needs to turn evidence over to the media now and not the defense?

      • Yeah, that was pretty friggin’ classic. I notice now the judge won’t even rule overruled or sustain – she’s just saying ask another question. I think she’d doing that b/c she wants to sustain but too afraid to for some reason.

  187. If I lived in that area I’d get a venders cart over to the courthouse and sell pain/headache relief meds. I’d be rich 😉

  188. Come on, who here didnt lie to their parents? Jodi was 14 years old! My parents found cigarettes in my purse and they weren’t mine. Lol.

    • I put the car in neutral and let it roll down the hill before I started it to sneak out. lol

      • You too??!!! My 12yo cousin was behind taking my mothers, lol, 1964 Dynamic 88 Oldsmobile with a 454engine, (at the time, because of my genetic disorder, at 14, I was the size of a 9-10yo, used phone books & could barely sit on them on the edge of the seat..). No one told me that “power breaks” from a ’64 car didn’t have backup-we never even saw the Ford Pinto-until the owner dragged us out to show us-it was kinda between a cement light pole & my trunk-which didnt have a dent, lol!!

        Noooo, tween’s & teens NEVER TELL lies!!!

    • exactly right…same when my mom found my boyfriends pot in my car….I guess god help us if we ever get accused of doing something uh Kimberly

      • Exactly, according to what I told my mother I was still a virgin while I still lived at home! I guess I’m a liar who can never be believed. Stupid. Let me also say this, as much as I try to be as forth right as I can if I was in Jodi’s position, I would have probably lied to the police originally too. Does anyone know statics about changing stories with these kind of things? Also, I am so over hearing the cost if the trial if I’m ever accused of stealing a pack of gum, I don’t care how much it costs. They could hire psychics at 1,000 dollars an hour to defend your life for all I care’ Ok maybe not! But you get my point. Shut the hell up. Move forward.

    • I think its total BS since the Father was an abuser( in my opinion of course) he is going to call his daughter a Liar. Very few Parents I ever heard of would speak to a detective about their daughter in such a derogatory way, especially the circumstances involving her arrest, and what is at stake. When a parent acts as he did, it is glaringly obvious what type of Parent he was, He thinks of himself first Don’t Blame M Me! I think he stinks and this will not be allowed highly prejudicial

      • Oli,

        I haven’t seen all the tapes but my take on how the parents acted was the dad felt he was talking to just another guy – trying to make sense of what happened. To me he didn’t come across as deliberately trying to hurt Jodi.

        Her mom seemed overwhelmed and just yammered and cried and yammered, speaking words as they crossed her mind.

        I could see my dad thinking he was helping and being honest to law enforcement – and not having the intent of passing blame from himself.

        but my parents were amazing and never abusive. They were hard working honest folks who would have the mindset of working with law enforcement. I know asking for an attorney would never enter my parents mind. To do so, I think, would in their minds, send a message of dishonesty.

        • Rainy:
          They are aware of what she was arrested for These are adults she was arrested for Murder,
          I saw the tapes her Father in my opinion and many others showed a lack of concern for his daughter belittled her, it was very astonishing to most people, don’t forget her siblings also had problems etc. Laviolette even stated the INAPPROPRIATE remarks made by her Father. I think he was disgusting and most people who viewed the interviews thought both her Parents were just dreadful but, especially the Father. When a girl drops out of high school leaves home is involved with abusive men etc. One of these are considered a red flag but all three.I have to be honest many were shocked and disgusted by her Father.

          • Yes I know most were shocked by her father. I get they were all assholes and I know the dad was terrible and did say inappropriate remarks to JA.

            I only compared him to how I would *speculate* how my mom and dad might act under similar conditions, But my dad was a GREAT dad! and I can only imagine growing up under a different roof.

            It only adds to the far reaching sadness of this entire saga…

    • just when we thought we would never have to hear the word ‘gas cans’ again…

  192. What the hell do the gas cans have to do with domestic violence?

    He’s sure grasping at straws.

  193. Martinez is Adolph Hitler is disguise, minus the goofy mustache.Same height. Same ego. Same evilness. He wants to kill and destroy everyone.

  195. I have been following this trial since day one. I will admit to being a convert to your website as well as your beliefs about this case and Jodi Arias. Another thing this website and trial has done for me is to see the way media outlets( HLN ) and the hosts of various ‘shows’ are reporting this whole case one sided. I have lost any respect I had for them. And today I have reached a point where I can no longer watch that little man do his cross examine of a professional who is not only providing a great testimony but also educating so many of us. So, sorry, this old lady is dropping out of the viewing of the trial for a while. I will be counting on all of you to keep the truth out here for us to read. Praying for Jodi.

  198. OK, Please do not be mad at me for saying what I am going to say. As you all know, I have been on this site since almost Day 1, so PLEASE do not label me as a “hater.”

    For the first time, I am doubting my faith in Jodi and I’m afraid the jury might feel this way also.

    1. I am disappointed that Jodi wanted her “manifesto” signed in case she became famous. Was this a game to her or was she not “well enough” to take things seriously?
    2. It seems there are several stories about how her fingers were cut on the day of the murder. What is the real story?
    3. If in fact her IQ is high, she might be smart enough to make up stories and keep them straight.
    4. It seems that LV did not review a lot of information related to Jodi. Was it because the info was not given to her?
    5. Also, I feel that JW and KN are getting nervous. Am I just imagining this? Do they want to “bail” on Jodi by going after a mistrial about not being able to give her a proper defense?

    Maybe I am just getting confused by JM.

    Help me out fellow supporters…Thanks!

    • 1. we haven’t heard the entire story on the “manifesto” yet

      2. She made up two stories about the murder, to lie about the cuts would go right in with the other stories. It was all before she decided to tell the truth.

      3. She didn’t keep her stories straight when she was lying. So having a high IQ didn’t even help her lie like a pro.

      4. It could not have been given to her

      5. It is common for defense to ask for a mistrial.

      • 1. spaghetti will stick if you throw it hard enough

        2. It doesn’t matter who made it, just who throws it harder

        3. Some spaghetti will not stick even if you shoot it with a sling-shot

        4. Kermi likes speghetti

        5. But he is throwing at the ceiling, instead of the wall.

    • I’ll give you my take, Nicole – keep in mind its just my two cents and I’m no expert.
      1. I thought the manifesto was kind of dumb but we all do dumb things. I think she was still in denial at this point. Its not a matter of taking it seriously – it is more ‘coping mechanisms.”
      2. Doesn’t matter what the ‘real’ story is about her finger. I’ve been through therapy enough to know that in order to understand the lies one must know the actual story behind it. She may very well have been covering a situation about reality and just twisted the story to make it believable to whom she is talking to. If she damaged her fingers during this incident with TA, she didn’t want to tell the truth; she wasn’t ready.
      3. Her IQ is completely irrelevant to this case. If it is high so what; if it is low so what.
      4. LV reviewed information that was necessary to determine DV or not. Things that JM are bringing up are so irrelevant. There are too many texts and emails between other people besides Jodi that show the whole truth/whole picture. JM is bringing in this bullshit on purpose in order to confuse the jury.
      5. I don’t feel JW and KN are getting nervous. I see that they are frustrated – and more so than the rest of us. This trial is a sham, prosecution is getting away with a LOT of dishonest tactics and they know it. But they can do nothing about it, even though the law should be on their side. It must be frustrating to do your job correctly but the one who is lying, tricking, manipulating facts and hiding evidence is not getting called on it and it is blatantly allowed. They cannot give a proper defense because JM has put too much out in the public and now the public is intimidating witnesses. Who knows what else is going on that we don’t see besides the death threats, character assassination and public humiliation all for doing your job!

      And lastly, I do believe JM is confusing you. And that worries me b/c I think he could confuse the jury too, but praying for truth, nonetheless.

    • You’re getting confused, Nicole.
      #1. Irrelevant. People do weird thing (I’m sure you did some time) when in jail under stress or under drugs.
      #2. Probably happened during the knife fight which she does not remember, hence her mind must have made up some story to explain it. If she were consciously lying she would have been consistent explaining it (being SO smart.)
      #3. Yes,she is smart, she would have kept consistent stories and would have not left clues all over the house. It shows she was in an irrational state, such as acute stress, then PTS, could not make sense of what happened and that the stories were not consciously planned.
      #4. LV reviewed necessary evidence for her evaluation of domestic violence from Travis. Gas cans and hand wounds have nothing to do with it.
      #5. You’re imagining it. The defendant rights are being violated every day in the media circus, the prosecutor and court misbehaviors, the release of materials and unlawful actions from the police, and the harassment of witnesses.
      Any one of these can cause a mistrial in any other state.

    • Oh, for Pete’s sake, get a clue, please. The defense didn’t have to put on anything. JM is throwing all kinds of shit at Jodi, hoping something sticks.

      Tell me how this relates to first-degree, premeditated murder.

    • She was a shitty liar, unlike Travis, who apparently is still conning people today.

    • The lies and disassociation were explained by Dr. Samuels as a part of the PTSD. Also, Jodi didn’t exercise her right to an attorney in those interrogations.

    • In my opinion, I think that it shows you are a reasonable person that wants to weigh all the evidence. Nothing wrong there. More people in this case should do that instead of jumping on the hate bandwagon. The cuts on her hands for me anyway, don’t really factor to me. She told stories about her cuts to go along with the story she was telling at the time. Yes, she lied. I get that. I might too, if I was in that position.The cuts to me probably came from the killing, my opinion, here’s the thing she admitted to it. The manifesto thing, my view, it was a really dumb ass thing to do. But, she writes. She has been sitting in jail for how many years. She made silly comments, she has the IQ of Einstein. Yea ok???? Don’t know the context, maybe it was a joke, maybe she was taking a test and she snickered and said that backhanded comment. I don’t care if she announced it! The evidence in this case does not prove pre meditation to me, that’s my assessment. Some of this stuff is chatter, it doesn’t prove anything to me

    • AV is accurate in not wanting to evaluate jodi based on her father’s statements. She knows what she is doing. Her father abused her. He would have “loaded” feelings about her. I don’t have enough info about this supposed manifesto to know. I don’t think her thinking she is smart shows she had self esteem. But keep in mind, she did say that years after travis so she may have felt better about herself.

      • JC – TEAM JODI ADMIN
        I completely agree about the Father he was thinking of himself not her, he was well aware of what she was arrested for. No Parent would throw their daughter under the Bus as he did.

    • I would not make too much of that it is apparent that Jodi had very low self esteem from dropping out of highschool etc Bad relationships with Men, of course people like that tend to exaggerate or embellish their intellectual abilities due to feeling inferior. The prosecution is just looking to paint a picture of a intelligent manipulative killer. But In my opinion, a lot of the stuff she did was very very stupid, so it does not show a very shrewd or intelligent person, Using large words and over intellectualizing is usually a sign of low self esteem which many people have. Staying with Travis was not smart, doing interviews on 48 hours not smart, and all these silly teenage beliefs such as the secret etc. are immature. In every way she showed a lack of a certain intelligence with regard to this tragic event. I would say she was extremely emotionally immature.

    • I listen to Jodi & her story and I get the impression that she was/possibly is, very naive, trusting and a bit immature when it came to men. I see parts of myself in this. I’m also seriously wondering if she may be bi-polar or ADD(NOT necessarily H)
      But also consider, from what I’ve read & heard from family, ex’s and friends-her behavior changed drastically at the same time she began seeing TA.
      If you’re a survivor-or know one-this is classic of Domestic Violence. And yes, lying, sometimes for no other reason except to either cover, or make light of what’s going on-or even to protect the abuser.
      I didn’t want my mother to know about the abuse because I knew she would turn it against me and my kids. I told a LOT of “white lies” during that time, and a few “whoppers”, (1 was I denied ANYTHING was going on, that my ex didn’t drink, (he was an alcoholic & addict), when I was in the hospital with cuts to my face & a concussion. I even claimed *I* was “drinking” one day when my cousin came by & saw the fridge full of beer & wine. At first, she believed me and even decided to do an “intervention”-until my sister-in-law told her I had chronic ulcers and only one kidney-drinking could kill me & everyone knew I would never do ANYTHING to jeopardize my children.
      I finally had enough with lying to everyone when he, my ex, pissed off about the divorce-and the fact I had just started med school, he called the dean, claimed I was a “secret drunk & addict”, and I had to go through random testing & suffered EXTREME embarrassment with my co-workers and classmates.
      I finally had to leave town because he was damned & determined to get me kicked out of school, he was driving my professors crazy, plus, disconnecting my power, gas and phone…I tried to transfer to another med school in another state-but he didnt stop even then. And when I complained to the judge? “We’ll, “K” has told us that YOU are harassing HIM and continually ‘pressing his buttons”. Yes, seriously.
      You would be shocked at some of our stories. NOTHING surprises me anymore when it comes to DV, and those of us that we’re brought up in a violent or/and chaotic household? 100 times worse.
      I don’t think I actually “grew up” and felt secure by myself until it had been 14+ yrs since divorce AND my ex died at 54 from a massive coronary after partaking of his usual late-night after-party, cocaine binge…
      Hate to say this but..nevermind, NO I DON’T “hate” to say this: KARMA IS A BITCH!!

  199. again with the gas cans?
    jodi would have to go 166.52 kms between gas stations between coachella ca and ehrenberg az and another 230.70 kms between ehrenberg and phonix az. extra gas makes sense for a woman alone in the dessert. borrowing gas cans from a friend that can latter testify against you does not make sense if you are premeditating a murder. 230.70 kms in between gas stations, rental car, woman alone in the dessert, common sense.

  200. When Martinez farts everybody thinks he’s whistling. To much anal after hours!! TAKE THAT YOU LITTLE KERMIT FROG,ASS LICKING,TURD

  201. so I guess he’s trying to get ALV to give her opinion now on whether Jodi premeditated this, which is totally irrelevant. She’s testifying as to whether Jodi was abused or not, not if the state has charged her properly. Give me a break! He will stoop to anything to prove he justly charged her. What a scumbag!

    • Melvis, the notes are not JA’s words. They are notes made by LV as she read reports on items to ask questions about. This is why JW is so pissed. The judge overruled her when JW tried to make the point that the State is presenting this as if they are JA’s words.

      • Yeah, I got that, I was trying to be sarcastic. My thought is that he’s trying to get ALV to approve his charging her with premeditation by grilling her about whether the gas cans presented a problem to her in her assessment of Jodi.
        I agree that the Judge is allowing this prosecutor to present circumstantial evidence, which is totally inappropriate but unfortunately, happens too often. People get convicted on circumstantial evidence all the time.
        The bottom line is JM knows he overcharged her so he’s grasping for ALV to trip up and say she felt that the gas cans prove she’s a liar, she premeditated the killing, and he is RIGHT.

  202. the 15 minutes of fame whore’s (pretend juror Wick) face and conduct in this courtroom is DISGUSTING

  206. It just ticks me off that JM is taking LV’s notes as if these were statements from JA which they were not. As LV stated, she had read in a police report something about erratic behavior. JW just tried to make the point that these were not JA’s words and the defense was overruled.

    It is just sickening.

    • Just remember. This verdict will be appealed if she is found guilty and this judge will be put on the firing line. And she has ineffective counsel by allowing him to ask all these leading questions, putting things into evidence that aren’t even true, putting things into the jurors heads that have not been allowed into evidence. and not objecting vehemently enough. The case is fucked for the prosecution now and the defense as well as Jodi will have to go through a lot of crap to fix this if she is found guilty.

  207. This case is totally ripe with appealable issues now! Martinez is asking one leading question after another, defense is being ineffective, judge doesn’t know how to rule correctly. It is a shambles.

    • How is the defense being ineffective? I see them objecting. Should they be doing more than that too?

      • They are not objecting enough in my opinion. He doesn’t ask direct questions. He asks leading questions! And I would object every single time not that it would do any damn good with this stupid judge.

        • Every time JM says isn’t it true it is a leading question. I now join others in thinking the judge is not competent in this case.

        • They were objecting a lot to leading the witness/testifying for the witness/argumentative earlier in the trial. I think maybe they figured they had enough on the record so stopped, knowing it would get OR anyway…

      • The defense is being “ineffective” only that their objections are being overruled constantly.

  210. Mr. Massengil is so condescending to ALV…and women in general – it hurts to watch…

    • No they are not. They are not objecting about this entire line of questioning hard enough. But this judge won’t help them in any way whatsoever regardless.

    • As much as JM has made this a circus atmosphere, JW does have a lot of rehabilitating to do. This is due to JM’s not wanting the truth in.

  213. I doubt, after this fiasco, that ALV will EVER want to be bothered to testify in a trial again. She should be paid $5,000.00 for pain and suffering for each hour she has to be questioned by JM .

  214. So in Juan’s own words she told Brewer she wanted the gas cans to go to Mesa. Perhaps one of the Taliban can tell me how that is keeping going to AZ a secret. He just shot down his own premeditation.

    • right on Jeff…exactly what I’m thinking. The defense can really use this to their advantage

      • Whether she told anyone she was going or not is really not the issue….the issue is whether or not she PLANNED the trip to Mesa well in advance or if it was spur of the moment. Although that in itself does not mean anything IMO either. He still has to show she intended to do harm to TA.

  215. Nice!! ALV and JM just admitted Mesa was a LAST MINUTE decision! This can be very good for Jodi! Now the defense needs to get up there and show Travis’s texts coaxing Jodi to come there, after she had already left Yreka

  217. he used the words restricked she did not get all the email etc and other facts in this case because they were restricted spelling

    • I could be wrong, but I have a feeling Kermit was the reason she didn’t get all the info and was “restricted”

  218. good grief, there is someone sleeping in the spectators section behind the Arias family. Make them go home and sleep for fricks sake

  219. Who gives a f*ck if she talked to Brewer over the gas cans. Totally irrevealnt to the issue of DV.

    • Why the f**k does JM keep referring to “her investigation” it was an evaluation for DV.

    • As somebody else noted, that shoots down premeditation because Jodi asked somebody if she could borrow them.

      If you wanted to premeditate a murder, you wouldn’t go around and ask friends for gas cans.

      Mesa was a last-minute decision because Travis invited her.

  222. I have seen alot of things saying he is a great prosecutor.. but that sure don’t make it true.

  223. he stopped her fast when talking about the other stuff but it is on record now they are holding information back from the jury

  224. I stepped away for 15 minutes and JM is still on the same damn subject. *sigh*

    I’ve gotta go pick up the Munchkin… I’ll prob be back in time for them to take their hour-and-a-half lunch. I also probably won’t miss a damn thing.

    Martinez is FAR overreaching, and in the process his propensity of being an asshole is becoming more and more apparent.

    Have faith in Jennifer or redirect, guys, PLEASE!

    • Yeah Ashley I have to remember that too when I can’t watch! It’s the same sideshow just a different day …and we can catch up later!

      redirect!

  225. If he is a good prosecutor it is only because he wins his case with stupid judges presiding who give him leeway all over the place. I would love to see some stats on him.

  226. this is not fair he is picking out stuff of her notes what about the way we picked at the flores report

  227. aww…look at Jodi shaking her head..as if saying’no,no not true’ 🙁

  228. Now were talking about her behavior in high school based on what a friend of JA’s said.

    • Exactly what Mrs. Alyce continues to try and point out.
      “I am trying to figure out if you want the truth or just an answer”.
      She said something to that effect, which pretty much sums Martinez up for me.

  230. I like how this idiot know what other people notes mean? I Know I will not keep notes or a journal.

  231. Why even object? The Puppet Judge is taking JM’s side regardless of the law.

    • Even on something as simple as a compound question. Which it was. LV had to answer in two parts. WTF

  235. Did anyone else notice that, since the Judge FINALLY sustained an Objection of Mrs. Wilmotts, Martinez was caught off guard and almost asked the same exact question before he realized it was Overruled, but rather Sustained.

    Hmmm.

  238. I have resorted to chocolate. Considering it’s only 1:30 here I can’t get anything stronger!

    • judge totally sucks as much as little juan. Asked and answered about 200 objections to and she overrules them all. What up with that? Is she even paying attention?

  244. I have learned one thing during this trial… JM is the only one that doesn’t have any issues with memory lol

  248. This is all just chatter, smoke and mirrors. Alyce is there to talk about DV her expertise. She’s not an expert on gas cans and all this dumb shit.

    • This is by far the worst judge I have ever seen. Any lawyers here who would like to comment on these shenanigans?

    • Barry Goldwater is spinning in his grave, and if he were alive he’d be PUKING out his guts!!

  253. I think Juan will use this for his audition with Disney to be the next angry or grumpy dwarf!

  254. I think the only qualification to become a judge in Arizona is being able to perform oral sex on prosecutors….

  255. Being manipulative, Mr Martinez, can be illustrated by your behavior with me on the stand.
    Flirting is not being manipulative.
    Are you flirting with me, Mr Martinez?

  256. What does any of this have to do with the charges of 1st degree premeditated murder. This is being put before the jury to inflame them only. No facts to back the State’s charges.

    I’m sure JW will rehabilitate her on re-direct.

    By the way, does anybody know of any 20+ age pretty girls that are not somewhat manipulative with male customers when working for tips.

  257. I can’t wait till JW gets a chance with ALV again and sets straight all the bullshit that Martinez has been spewing.

    I read yesterday someone in the courtroom tweeted how the jurors all looked bored. To me, that says that JM is not being effective.

  258. now he is useing he note to discredite her what about the notes of flores if he had of done his job poor ashley thompson reed would be alive now 🙁

  260. And we’re supposed to believe that NONE of these people had an ulterior motive to throw Jodi under the bus after learning what had happened? Just like all the others that have come out the wood work to be on television today! Yea right!!

    • Puh-leez! Considering how beautiful and intelligent Jodi was(and still is)

  263. He’s now trying to trick her into saying Jodi was a manipulator of men..

    What is JM doing .. trying to manipulate.

  264. ”manipulative with men”
    ”she was only nice to good-looking men”
    Oh,good…I was wondering when the slut card would resurface!It’s been a while since Martinez last implied that!

  267. good looking to whom???? these pieces of shit who are ready and willing to throw Jodi to the wolves???

  268. Flores works hard for the money. So hard for it, honey.
    He works hard for the money. So you better treat him right.

    • With the defense. Even when the defense objected to a compound question that LV had to answer in two parts, the judge overruled.

      The only reason for the defense to object now is to preserve the record, because nothing will be sustained.

  271. he is trying to malpulate the jury to believe his side of the story and the truth 🙁

    • I know how much this hurts you, Tonya ((hugs))

      Jennifer will clear this up–she is taking copious notes…

  272. So what he is trying to say if 20 tell you it’s blue and 1 tells you its green that you have to believe that it’s green!!

  273. I would like to get a bill passed – let’s call it Jodi’s Law – that NO one can be interrogated by law enforcement without having an attorney present. NO ONE!

    If they are, the interrogation be considered invalid.

    There is too much corruption nowadays and just being told your Miranda rights is outdated.

    • Gee, Rainy. These cute little kitten are multiplying, or am I seeing triple already?

    • I agree. As someone who is a huge fan of true crime and having a husband who is involved in issues such as this I know I would never talk to a cop without an attorney and I don’t care how guilty that makes me look. If I am innocent I should prevail. Well, unless I am in Maricopa county.

    • You know what Rainy? I totally agree with you and I can’t believe I have come around to this direction. The cops I know are not corrupt, so I was naive until this trial. (At least they aren’t that I know of…now that I see things differently, how would I REALLY KNOW. LOLOLOL)

      I like that law.

    • Rainy
      Most citizens are aware of that when you are arrested they read you your rights it was her in my opinion stupidity to speak to the Detective you do not have to. Anyone arrested should always have an attorney present that is their right usually Parents would get her an attorney etc. OR one would be provided that is the Law. You have a right to remain silent, If you are taken into police custody, you have the right to: be informed of the charges against you and the allowable penalties; obtain a lawyer, including the right to have one appointed if you cannot afford one.

      The police may ask your name, address, and other routine processing questions. Before questioning you about anything else, the police must tell you that you have a right to remain silent; that any statement you make may be used as evidence against you; and that you have a right to speak with a lawyer and, if you wish, to have a lawyer present when you are being questioned. The police must also tell you that a lawyer will be assigned to your case without cost if you cannot afford a lawyer but want to speak to one before questioned. The questioning must stop if you state that you wish to remain silent or request a lawyer.You silence cannot be used against you. However, what you say, as well as what you write or sign, can be used against you. Unless you actually requested a lawyer, the police may later ask you to speak with them. If you have requested a lawyer instead of merely refusing to answer questions, the police cannot question you further unless you later decide to talk without the benefit of legal counsel.

  276. What is the difference whether one says murder or killing? I must be missing something, don’t understand…

    • I think there was some sort of order early on. If you notice, even JM doesn’t say murdered.

    • Murder is actually a legal term that indicates intent. Killing in self defense is not murder.

    • Jodi’s case is that she killed Travis in self-defense, not that she deliberately murdered him.

    • I think theres an issue that she’s not been found guilty of M so it’s not correct to use that word.

      Until the verdict ,she’s only guilty of killing.

      It seems like a semantics thingy – but court seems to be rife with hanging onto a specific word used….

    • innocent before being proven guilty

      Amendment V (1791)

      No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise
      infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand
      jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces,
      or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war
      or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the
      same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb;
      nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness
      against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property,
      without due process of law; nor shall private property be
      taken for public use, without just compensation.

      Amendment VI (1791)

      In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right
      to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state
      and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which
      district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and
      to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation;
      to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have
      compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor,
      and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

  278. Okay, every waitress I have ever had has manipulated me for the best tip.

    Big fucking deal.

    • Yep, in my younger days, I worked for tips. I would flirt, smile, etc., and work it for those tips.

      God forbid I’m ever in trouble and they go back to when I was 18 and worked two different jobs for tips.

    • Every waitress???!!!

      How about every HUMAN has manipulated and do so every day!!!

      Shit, my cats manipulate me ALL THE TIME!!! They look cute just to get a treat!

      • Two thumbs up as my Sita wont “allow” me to sit here anymore-Grocery delivery this AM, (they don’t let blind old ladies drive up here like in floriDUH..), she’s wanting her new cookies…
        Manipulating little…
        Oh baby, she’s all cuddled, purring, “smiling”-going to get her cookies-and ANYTHING else she wants!!

  279. I can’t blv the level of disrespect from the prosecutor! !! He keeps getting worse!

    • And the Puppet Judge just lets him go while she get moist looking at him. Disgusting. How did this woman get to be a Judge?

        • I’m telling you. She’s banging little Hitler and she’s pissed at the defense. She is atrocious.

          • i want to know who she blew to get her robe? I’m sorry Admin, but this has gone way past ridiculous.

    • That’s how I’m taking it and that TA was angry based on an untrue manipulating comment to TA that was the catalyst to his rant. Who knows, I don’t think anyone, including the jury, can keep up with the little bastard.

    • And TA was the one who was manipulative. It’s right there in the record.

      JM can spin it all he wants, but facts are facts.

    • I’m so freakin’ lost in his ranting I have no idea what asshole is trying to make.

      If I was on the jury I would be so tuned out…and sick of his voice, his pacing back and forth, his arms flailing, his accent on the words he spews, the venom, antagonism and contempt he has for this witness, his arrogance, his abuse of justice, his anger, his whiney judge requests, for starters.

      Then I’d start mentally criticizing his teeth, his hair, his suits, what his nails like, his shoes, color of his socks. How tired I’d be looking at his back, the lint on his suits, the bald spot I’d be forced to look at daily.

      I’d be so tuned out to his words and style of questioning. I’d be planning to vote not guilty just to get even with this uncivilized maniac who’s tortured me all these months.

    • So basically what JM says is that TA’s ranting and calling her names in this 16 pages msg was justified because she pushed his buttons,manipulating him,making him feel angry so as for him to pay attention to her.How sick!

  281. Yes you dumbass JM, we would ALL act exactly the same if we had to kill someone in self-defense. We would all do what you would do. I hope you write a freakin’ book advising us all how we should act in case we make a mistake in our lives. ((sarcasm))

  282. Now ALV is old-fashioned? WTH!!! OMG, he is actually going to try to put into people’s heads that abuse, rape, pedophilia is the new normal!

    • Yes, going to try and say she is so old-fashioned that she couldn’t ask the tough sex questions. Really?

      Some of the jurors are a little older…correct? This could also backfire on JM.

    • Yes old fashioned – GBAFB

      He’s setting up to bring in his hip, new age, young, fresh, sentient psychologist who, I’m sure, is way smarter than Einstein.

      gag me…

  283. He just said that her standard doesn’t matter, then why the hell does he keep asking her about her own personal standards?!?!?!?!?!

    Now he just called her old…………..

    • They’re some older jurors too….I don’t think this will sit well with them. Your thoughts?

      • Oh, no way. Personally, I’m so offended by JM and his BS that I would vote NG just despite him. The older jury memebers will probably be GREATLY offended, IMO.

  285. He just doesn’t stop until he gets her to just give in enough and say something that resembles what he wants. I worry he is breaking her down by trying to exhaust her. He seems to go that route with his cross exams

    A smart prosecutor gets stuff out of people without obviously attempting to twist words. Since there is nothing to ” uncover” he just attempts to beat her up!

    • Yea wasn’t it Al or someone else, a few days ago, posted about lawyers and the yes and no questions?! Thats all he’s been demanding all day, YES or NO.

    • the purpose of the introductory phrase “isn’t it true”, is to confine the witness narrowly to a yes/no type esponse

      which this incompetent, ignorant and stupid judge believes cannot be elaborated on by the witness

    • The way I see it is that he usually starts with ”isnt it true” when he knows that what he’s about to say is an incorrect statement in the hopes of tripping the witness.He did that a lot with Jodi as well.

  288. Martinez just DOESN’T blv jodi and he thinks that her whole life has been a big fat lie and he wants EVERYONE to blv it too. Jodi has NEVER EVER told a truth in her life, that’s what Martinez thinks and wants everyone to blv.

    • She’s never been in trouble either until TA was going after her.

      Have we all forgotten that I don’t think TA ever told the truth either.

      • Jodie
        You are right she has no history of violence or being a Liar as Travis does, So of course the Father ‘s comments would be highly prejudicial.

        • You are both wrong…just spit on it! That astro glide and KY shit is for evel do’ers and the devil worshipers.

          • OMG, you didn’t just say that… LMFAO!

            Renee, Astroglide for everyday use and Platinum Wet (silicone based) for water-friendly activities. 😉

            THAT’S where its at!

  295. New Announcement: EVERY WAITRESS AT HOOTERS WILL NOW BE ARRESTED FOR BEING MANIPULATIVE TO MEN

  297. the monumental hubris of judge stephens to believe she was prepared or capable of conducting this trial

  298. OMG so LV talked about being old-fashioned as it relates to having anal sex. So here the little frog goes again about the anal sex.

    What’s the age of the jurors? I’m sure there are some that feel they are old-fashioned too.

    Any thoughts?

    • I do not think I would tread in those waters eather. I’m not old fashion in my thinking…but come on who is going to sit there and say: you liked it up your butt didn’t you?. I have a broom handle for you JM….

    • What is old fashioned about sex mean? I mean what does that in compass? And for the record I manipulate my husband all the time lol. And I’m sure he does with me! I know how to get him to happy happy and he knows what works for me…, shoes anyone?

        • Oh man, I would be on death row…. not because I deserve it, but because I manipulate the hubby and I like sex…

          note to self: behave, woman!

          • OH SHIT! I know its “the womans” birthday today, but she is in deep shit now! All of these years, turns out she has been manipulating me into..gulp…sex! I knew it! I really hate it when she makes me go down town..and then when she does…YIKES! Thats the WORST! Sometimes, get this, she wants to….um….be on TOP! I know, Right? That bitch, now she will get what is coming to her.

            This guy is a fucking moron. Old fashioned sex? What does that mean? 50 years ago they fucked like they do today, although they may have not talked about it on the web. 100 Years ago, they fucked like they do today, although they may not have had it televised. 500 years ago, they fucked like they do today, all be it, with a tad less respect for woman as they do today. Even though the pope may say we are all going to hell for jerking off or for woman flicking the bean, im pretty sure if the pops god didnt want me to touch it, he woulndt have made my arms so long.

            As long as people have been around we have been fucking, licking, sucking, ass pumping and everything in between (punn intended).

            Just because this little prick couldnt get his dick wet in a whore house doesnt mean that everyone else is having deviant sex.

            Now, if you start talking about using your god to steal some ass? Jerking off to kids picks?etc…then i think there is an issue.

    • My abuser spent years convincing me that sexual aberrations were “normal.” That’s what they do to manipulate their victim. I actually believed for a long time there was something wrong with me. It was only through therapy that I realized I was okay – but now damaged.

      When I see how this trial is playing out – its disgusts me because there was nothing normal about TA. When you put together all the actions from what kind of sex, how it was handled (while she slept!), his comments, his abusive texts, emails from others calling him out, TA sending ‘minions’ to brainwash her into becoming a mormon – when all that is put together there is nothing normal about this. And I feel like the whole gaslighting (abuse is normal, you are not/old fashioned/a prude, etc) is being pulled on the public and many stupid people are falling for it.

      This is not normal and Jodi had every right to defend herself.

  299. JM; “ISN’T IT TRUE MAAM, THAT I JUST THREW SPAGHETTI AT THE CEILING, YES OR NO!”

    ALV: “WELL, YOU THROUGH SOMETHING, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT, NOT SPEGHETTI”

    JM: “I’M NOT ASKING YOU WHAT I THREW, I AM ASKING IF IT STUCK, MAAM, DO YOU HAVE FEELINGS FOR THE DEFENDANT???”

    JW: OBJECTION, IRRELEVANT

    JUDGE TINKLES: “OVERRULED, TELL THE PROSECUTOR WHAT HE WANTS TO HEAR”

    • That about sums up JMs entire case….i think i saw a post earlier from someone that BunnyTurd (he is so small and a POS) has won something like 300 cases??? It just makes me SICK to wonder how many of them may have been innocent defendents that were railroaded by this irrational little tyrant?!???

  302. Poor Jodi, she’s so thin, her arms..

    I’d like to lock JM up for putting her through this heap of shit of a trial, he’s evil.

  304. JM is trying desperately to trash ALV but I believe ANYone with even one ounce of rationale will see what he is up to.

    • I don’t think JM is capable of having a discussion about the weather and it being civil

    • I can’t imagine having any conversation with Hitler. I want to hit him in his jaw. I despise the man. I find the defendant Not guilty because the prosecutor is a douche bag, arrogant, disrespectful, evil, Nazi with a corrupt puppet of a Judge he has wrapped around his penis.

  307. The Puppet Judge is going to go have anal sex with little Hitler during lunch.

  309. I’d make the bastard live on bread and water twice a day for the next 30 years.

  310. OOh JM is INTO ANAL sex!!!! He just LOVES this subject. He’s off to masturbate in the men’s room…got him all excited HE JUST HAD TO PLAY THAT RECORDING LOL

    • Dorothy, that’s becoz his mama won’t allow any of ‘that’ nonsense in her home. She is ‘old-fashioned’!! 🙂

      • Intropestive, JM seems like the kind of guy who still lives with his mommy…never left. So, I guess he needed his dose of porn talk before the end of the day….coincidentally just before lunch break.

  311. the purpose of the introductory phrase “isn’t it true”, is to confine the witness narrowly to a yes/no type response

    which this incompetent, ignorant, and stupid judge believes cannot be elaborated on by the witness AL

        • I thought the shock belt was around her thigh??

          dear Ashley, they do that in lieu of handcuffs/shackles, which is prejudicial

          damnit…. trying to take a psych exam and monitor the trial at the same time….difficult…

        • Yep. Yesterday on the WAT tweets they were discussing it and some of them ‘wished’ that they had access to the switch that would trigger a shock, so that they could keep her jumping or something to that effect. I found it distasteful.

  313. I am so thankful for this break! I really am tired of hearing his voice. I made a mistake of reading comments on BK facebook post, How can there be 2 completely different opinions about the same words?? They actually think he is making her look bad. I am hoping this jury can see how he is completely taking thing out of context and twist every word that is being said.

    • That would be a hell of a confrontation. “What is your major malfunction numbnuts. Didn’t your mommy hug you enough when you were growing up?”

  316. Mtz needs to find another job. He’s not cut out for this. His bulliness probably worked alooooooonnnng time ago, but not anymore.

  317. While we have a break from the action, I thought I’d throw this in:

    I see where Jane Valez-Mitchell is already (unconsciously) doing a CYA (for herself, HLN and the rest of the bozos out there) regarding the actual verdict. She said we can only tell if Martinez’s approach is a good one once the verdict is in. If she is convicted it was a good approach but if it she gets off it was not. In other words, if Jodi is found not guilt, it won’t be because she is actually innocent, it will be because the prosecution did a poor job.

    • Well, if it is a not guilty verdict, it’s because the prosecution failed to prove its case.

      Which means it did a lousy job.

      Even if there’s a guilty verdict, it STILL means the prosecution has done a lousy job and that the jury has been watching media “reports” of the trial.

    • The daughter of a dancer, overcame addiction… You would think she of all people would know, shit happens! It doesn’t make you a psycho. A persons judgement may not always be great! Mistakes don’t make the person and they shouldn’t be judged on those mistakes. She is a hypocrite.

  318. I just got back, put my earbuds in, heard JM say something about KY and now they’re at lunch AND there’s almost 100 new comments here since I left… What the hell did I miss?!?

    • Ahsley,

      You’re lucky – you only missed JM – he grabbed the judge from over the top of her desk, dragged her across the floor to his desk, spun her around hard, bendt the judge over as he pulled up her black robe. EF handed JM some ky and mean little hilter displayed to the jury the correct technique of anal. Meanwhile, EF was busy clicking away taking pictures…
      😉

  319. I’d put him in solitary confinement, then he could yell, rant and rage at the walls as much as he liked.

    Oh and I’d make damn sure it was a soundproofed cell.

  320. Hello all! Long time lurker. First time poster. I have been following this trial since the beginning and have finally decided to weigh in and show my support.

    • thanks AJ 🙂 I just hope I have something intelligent to add to the conversation.

  322. I wish she sold just say ” this has nothing to do with domestic violence and that was what I was tasked to find out”

  323. Wow I have the worst headache after him yell all morning. I do not know how the jury can sit through his abusive manner.

    • I think he actually took it a step back and he is not so confrontational as before, And my guess is that its due to the motion for mistrial filed by the defense on Sunday

      But to be truthful he was more effective today than the last few weeks AND I DON’T LIKE IT!

  324. by the way I am here in Moscow, Russia so please don’t blast me if I fall behind a bit and ask stupid questions 🙂

    • LOL,Rob they won’t.I myself live in Greece and they’ve been nothing but sweet,patient and helpful with me.

      • that is one of the reasons I decided to join. This group seems to be more intelligent and respectful.

    • There are no stupid questions Rob, just a stupid prosecutor who berates and shouts at everyone!

  325. Forget the courtroom! Is the g*****n judge on the same F*****G continent where the trial is taking place? OVERRULED! Is she not hearing that despicable flea’s questions? Both the judge and the imp from hell should be barred from ever practicing law of any kind ever again!

  326. Mr.Martinez do you understand the definition of insanity is continuing the same behavior OVER and OVER and expecting different results?

  327. I wonder how many of his DP convictions have been overturned?
    This guy ‘manipulates’ witnesses and mindf*ks jurors no end (except ALV, she is holding on very well.) He would be very good at obtaining false confessions from innocent people.

  328. I know i posted this back a month or so ago, but after today’s topics in trial i think it is a good time to bring it up again….

    There are only 2 rules to remember when you are asked to talk to a cop…

    #1 NEVER talk to the police.

    #2 If you have to talk to the police, refer back to rule #1

    I’m not talking about when you get pulled over, or when you get booked, or if you are getting interrogated, or if they are not asking about something YOU did…NEVER, EVER, EVER talk to cops. PERIOD.

    If you have an emergency, call 911 and talk to a dispatcher. At which point you should ask them to send an ambulance or a fire truck. If you need to talk to a detective, because you are reporting a crime, then have legal counsel with you. ALWAYS.

    If you did a crime…don’t talk to cops.
    if you are accused of a crime…don’t talk to cops.
    If you didn’t do a crime…don’t talk to cops.

    There is a great YouTube video by an ex-detective and a law professor that is called “never talk to cops”. Every person in the US should watch it.

    Here is a great example: I am a personal banker. Several months ago we had a customer come in and cause a scene. The bank called the police. After the scene was calmed down, the cop tried to question me about what the customer did. I told him I was not willing to talk to him about the incident without contacting our legal dept. and having counsel present. He then said that he didn’t understand why I wouldn’t assist them as they were there to “help” the bank, not investigate me. I repeated my statement and then asked everyone in the bank to follow suit. 2 months later, after not having spoken to the police, I was called to testify in court, as it turns out the customer was actually trying to use the bank as a tool to clean drug money. The legal action actually included a possible charge for my bank, if he was indicted, as we would have been the tool he used. I later found out from our attorneys that if we had shown in any way that we had tried to help this customer, we would have been implicated in the offense. If I had made a simple statement to the cops like “I don’t know what that guys issue was, I was trying to help him, and he just started to get very upset, so we called you to help” and they could say the banker admitting to trying “to help him”.

    Example: cop-“We are looking for John Doe, have you seen him?” you- “no, I hate that prick, he stole money from me, I don’t ever talk to him now”. BOOM… Turns out John Doe is dead, and you just gave the cops motive and admitted that you had ill will towards him. All from what you thought was an innocent statement.

    You never know what the result of your statements will end up being used for. They could mischaracterize your words or simply make up their own version of what you say…but if YOU DON’T TALK TO COPS…that can never happen.

    Remember, it is illegal to lie to cops. It is 100% legal for cops to lie to you. You can have anything you say to cops used against you in a court of law. The cops cannot be held responsible for anything they say to you.

    • Good advice. Not to mention that cops write things down in their reports incorrectly that can later totally bite you in the ass. Always get a copy of a police report and always check it for accuracy. Make them correct it, if need be, even if it’s as a supplemental report.

      • yup cops do make mistaks….lol My son got stopped for a ticket. He handed the cop all the paperwork. The titals in his dads name….so the cop issued the ticket to his dad not him…..the driver

        So needless to say daddy was at work at the time and could prove it….the charges was dropped.. lol

      • And assume that if you are ever in a room that you are being recorded. If they tell you to sit in a certain seat, that will tell you where the camera is. And if they tell you your parents/friends/anyone ratted you out don’t believe it.

        • yow! Apparently it is legal for our police to legally practice psychological torture in this country.
          Scary. I’m getting too old to adapt to the craziness in this world I am afraid…. 🙁
          Who is there a person can TRUST in this world, anymore?

    • Great post and great advice that everyone should follow when being questioned by the police.

    • That is the one lesson that should be learned out of this fiasco. I wish Jodi had exercised her rights or had known what they meant.

      There probably never would have been much in the way of media attention, and it would have been done and over with.

    • They can legally lie to you in interrogations; it is done all the time. However, you cannot lie to the police without sanctions.

      Those Miranda rights are there for a reason. You must exercise them.

    • Thank you sirlips!!!

      That is great advice and I appreciate the example you gave us.

      I will zip my lips.

      I hate it that they are allowed to lie.

    • Very good advice, Sirlips. And should be kept in mind by everyone instead of biting into the bait of buying PPL vaporsurance.

    • I love this post – thanks, again Sirlips. And although excellent, I really hope that none of us will ever have to use this advice!

      • Would the same advice apply to Jodi’s parents? Should they have refused to talk to LE without a lawyer?

    • Hehee, I was gonna go get that,..did you get it from NORML? They also have a video, on YouTube I think, not just for pot, for ANY stop by police!!

  330. I would like to hear this when we get back

    JM: Isn’t is true that I am a Rockstar and can act anyway because I own this courtroom Yes or No

    ALV: Sir you can’t handle the truth

  332. Note to JM sex is good, sex is fun. When you dont have to deal with a deviant! Old fashioned or not! Asshole! He’s just mad cause he’s not getting any.

    • I don’t think he knows, and for that matter many of his supporters know, what good fun sex is shared equally by both partners.

      • Hmmmm… I truly think you might be onto something there. To all of them, sexual activity might be more about demonstrating power and establishing status or dominance, or swapping one sort of commodity for another, as opposed to being about bonding, intimate fun and/or a communion of bodies/minds/spirits…

        • I guess this might be part of why it just grosses me out when I hear snippets of Martinez “fans” raving about him… there is NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING about that man that is a turn-on for me. I think I would be far more sexually attracted to a pair-bonding Neanderthal man than I ever could toward this slimy little weasel from our own century… gag!
          HE is ALL about status and dominance and has NO CLUE about CONTEXT of ANY sort. ugh.

  333. Aside from Jodi’s defense why do you think ALV took this case and deems it important?

    • She strikes me as the type to deem any case that she chooses to pursue as important.

      I believe she looks enough to see if her expertise is warranted and then goes from there.

      • Yes Bee Cee but why this case?? I think she is choosy about her cases and she is an educator. What made her choose this case as she does not need the aggravation that I am sure she was aware it would cause? I know money was NOT the reason.

        • Alyce is the consummate professional DV expert. She’s smart, compassionate, WAS VERY highly respected, (and still is in my mind), and has experience on “both sides”, (evaluating both a users and victims).
          I wish I would have known about her in the mid-90’s. But even being a survivor and a former DV counselor myself-Alyce has taught ME things during this trial.
          I don’t know how she’s doing it-rat-face would have me broken down. Add being one tough cookie to her attributes. 🙂

  336. I am really impressed with how well AL is able to stand up to JM. This morning has been exhausting but she is not letting him get by with his little tricks. I really don’t see how he has made any head way at all…..I can’t imagine that the jury is not seeing how he is trying to manipulate (there’s that M word again) AL’s answers.

    Wouldn’t be fun if JM had to wear a stun belt and we could all zap him every time he says “yes or no” or “anal sex” or…..

    • AL could have turned JM’s words against him and suggested manipulation of her words is what he has been demonstrating. He gives me reason to be pro defense.

    • wen he talks about anal sex do you think he is saying he is an ass

  337. I hate the tactic JM is using only letting in to seconds of the dads words

  338. wish I could wiggle my nose and turn him into a ?????use your emagination

    • Prosecutor who apologizes to ALL (defendant, witnesses, defense, judge, victim’s family, supporters, AG, county, state, nation and world) for his misconducts, drops the silly charges against Jodi and re-investigates all DP cases he ever prosecuted, including this one.

  339. A STUN BELT IS EFFECTIVELY PROHIBITED IN THIS CASE IN MY OPINION FROM READING THIS MOTION

    http://www.opd.ohio.gov/RC_DP…/10NoRestraintsCivilianclothes.doc

    i don’t know the outcome of this motion

    i’d suggest read it

    ignore the citation script

    eg Skipper v. South Carolina, 476 U.S. 1, 4-5 (1986).

    just read the summary of the rule of law

    below i’ve pasted several extracts
    all excellent, and straightforward reading
    10 minutes reading at most
    read it slowly, read it carefully

    MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT
    The presumption of innocence is a basic component of the fundamental right to a fair trial.
    “[E]very defendant is entitled to be brought before the court with the appearance, dignity, and self-respect of a free and innocent man [or woman].”
    1. Appearing in Civilian Clothing
    Finally, “compelling the accused to stand trial in prison garb operates usually against those who cannot post bail before trial.”
    2. Appearance Without Restraints

    Defendant contends that there are no facts specific to this case that would justify restraint in any manner during pretrial or trial proceedings – including by means of a stun belt, hand restraints, leg restraints, or other similar tools of confinement. “The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments [of the United States Constitution] prohibit the use of physical restraints visible to the jury absent a trial court determination, in the exercise of its discretion that they are justified by a State interest specific to a particular trial.”
    “[G]iven their prejudicial effect, due process does not permit the use of visible restraints if the trial court has not taken account of the circumstances of the particular case.”
    Defendant specifically asserts that there is no justification for restraining him by use of a stun belt. Defendant anticipates that the State may contend that, unlike old-fashioned shackles, a stun belt does not run afoul of the edicts against restraining trial defendants without just cause. The Ohio Supreme Court has reversed cases where a stun belt has not been amply justified on the record.

    • JODI WEARING A STUN BELT

      THAT TOTALLY MALICIOUS, AND VINDICTIVE BY THE STATE OF ARIZONA

      make a google search of …
      law jury trial capital supreme court defendant visible stun belt

      maybe someone finds some good material to post

      • That’s the LOWEST OF THE LOWS!
        By God, this should go to the US Supreme Court if necessary.

        Amendment VIII

        Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines
        imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

  340. Well it’s after 4pm here in Michigan so I can now justify having a drink so I can get through JM berating ALV.

  341. I know myself well enough to know if it were me up there I would say : listan you little f…… I don’t take this crap from nobody anymore….so shut the f up!!!!! Off to jail I’d go……

  342. I have been reading tweets of the trial on @michaelbkiefer twitter account. Reading his take and yours (he tries to be unbiased) I think Martinez is grasping and Laviolette is a tough cookie. He wants Jodi to be unlikeable, and he’s using straw man argument: all liars are murderers, all waitresses who flirt with men are manipulative, Jodi Arias is at fault for everyone’s suffering including global warming, she invented anal sex and Snow White and the seven dwarves are sitting in the courtroom. He is stupid, and Alice is running around circles around him. So because Jodi wrote a manifesto she has high-self esteem? Where is that written and did he present the whole context as Alice has stated over and over again. Sometimes I think the defense doesn’t object because if he brings in evidence the hope they can bring in the context of the evidence. IE the dildo with a heartbeat text that JM tried to make Jodi appear like she used Travis although he wrote six hours (mind you) of hateful, aggressive and demeaning text messages to Jodi! He brought that in to evidence when he questioned her but he failed to elaborate how Saint Travis continued to demean her via text message. He isn’t passionate about his case he’s afraid he’s going to lose and he continues to sound “angry” because deep inside he fears the loss. He smells it close to him. I know Jodi isn’t a saint. She killed a person but look at everything this person did to her. He called her a stalker to his friends and them would invite her over to sleep with him, make herself comfortable in his home, and ask to borrow money from her. He’d talk to her about his love life and about sex. He would do that alot. He probably made fun of her because that’s what I think he implied on his IMs to one of the girls he was interested in. He used her and wanted to manipulate her til he got bored or tired or moved on like he did with Deanna. He used to tell jodi she was a stalker too. Who is the biggest liar? A person in denial because of a traumatic event or a man who wanted to bed, deceive and manipulate all women within 3 feet of him? And sorry to say it but no one even missed him because it took five days for someone to look for him when he was dead in his own home with room mates. Doesn’t imply to me he was the nicest guy ever. Where were his sisters and brothers that now appear on TV? Or his so called friends?

    • Awesome post FLNANG!
      It’s so good to read your words, it actually feels to me as if I have been able to vent off some of my own frustration, because you happen to be posting how I think, too.

  345. well goodnight all from here and I will check in tomorrow :). Enjoy the rest of your day or evening and remember to take regular JM breaks to maintain sanity. Like I said, I do read all the posts and I am starting to worry about some of you :)..just kidding!!

  346. Just to let you know they have started a second page afternoon see to the right above the calandert

  348. I am a newbie and have been reluctant in posting my opinion on the trial because you just cant argue with some people and i learned that very quickly in CA’s case. I have been reading here as much as I can but is impossible to read all at this late date. I cannot hold back any longer but at least I can express mo here without the hate, stalking and hacking. I am appalled at what I am seeing and hearing in this courtroom. I cannot believe the judge is allowing the badgering of the witnesses by the prosecution. It is apparent he has some issues and that is putting it mildly. Maybe he and the laughing guy could have lunch some day I am sure they would have much in common. Now does it appear just to me that JuanTong Martinez is trying to accuse AL of doing exactly what he is doing, taking bits of info and making it what he wants it to be and not what is the truth? And what is with the “do you understand” as if he is talking to a child not an expert witness. Question is does HE even understand what he is saying!!! I am like WTF DID HE JUST SAY? IS THERE A QUESTION? and let’s not forget “did I just ask you that?” yes or no it’s a yes or no which is it? Sorry for the rant but I have listened to this trial from day 1 with no one to vent my frustrations to. Another problem I have is Why is the last 2 pics which are suppose to show JA killing and dragging TA appear so different? Flores said in her interview they used a chemical to enhance because they were dark and blurry. I think they need to put more chemicals because I still can’t make out what the heck they are suppose to be. Maybe they are hiding TA’s porn in these so called pics. Wouldn’t hurt to take a CLOSER look and do some enhancing yourself surprising what one may find. The detective on day 6 at 1:10:58 looked a little uncomfortable when defense questioned him about the computer. Take a look. My guess is there is something not quite right. I want even get into Flores’ police report. Thanks for letting me rant I have much more to say but will stop for now..

  350. Oh this little rat-face is pissing me off,..holy crap!! The JUDGE IS BATSH!T CRAZY to let this in!!!
    APPEAL!!
    (Yes, those are my 3 incredible children who I love more than myself-even when the feelings aren’t returned. 🙁 this was my younger daughter’s wedding last year,..which I wasn’t “allowed” to go to. My mother was going and we thought between her and her father’s family, (who STILL hate me with a passion bc I dared report their brother for DV and Sexual abuse of a minor-then I “had the nerve” to divorce him..horrors!! 😉 )

  351. al, i “could” be wrong
    could = a possibility
    ie one in ten, or one in a million ie a hypothetical possibility
    compared to probability which provide the likelihood of something happening

    eg

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dont-try-harder-try-different/201107/possibility-versus-probability

    Possibility Versus Probability

    Just because something is possible, does not mean that it is highly probable. Often, possibility and probability are confused with each other. Many times people see that the mere chance of something happening must mean that it absolutely will happen. This is, of course, not true at all.

    It is possible that you will win the lottery today. The probability is very low, and zero if you do not play the lottery, but it is possible. Even though the probability is small, millions of people still play the lottery because sometimes someone wins, and it might just be them.

  356. that crooked judge is allowing jm to cut off al’s answer
    looks like crooked

    judge “you may answer yes or no”
    judge you’re partisan, and incompetent
    al is not limited to a yes no answer
    judge stephens statement as part of a pattern is so bizarre as not to be explicable as incompetence

  357. I’m just waiting now for him to insinuate that she’s biased because she’s a man-hater.

    • He kind of did when he pointed out that Travis was a man . . . or at least that is how I took it.

  358. I know people are going to get mad at me, but I am disappointed with Alyce’s testimony . . . as much as I like her, I think she has started fighting back too much. She came across as snarky when she suggested JM should have a timeout — even if it was true, it kind of put her on the same level as JM. I wish she had stayed above that so the jury would clearly see her as better than him.

  360. My comments & concerns re Alyce LaViolette

    • Alyce is an accomplished, educated woman whose list of achievements speaks for itself

    • An excellent choice for the defense

    • Alyce, like any witness, expert or not should be treated with respect (by both the defense & the prosecution)

    • In order to give a well-informed accurate assessment she spent 40+ hours speaking to Jodi, listened to a recorded phone conversation, & was given access to hundreds of pages of text messages & journal entries.

    • Many of the questions being asked by the prosecutor are based on previous testimony that she has not been privy to therefore the words “assume”, “hypothetical”, “theoretical”, & “supposed” are often used.

    • Since Alyce is here to give her professional opinion based on what she’s reviewed, not only is it difficult to answer these question it is difficult to know why they are being asked. It is confusing.

    • The more the prosecutor poses the questions this way, the more frustrated she becomes & I can’t blame her.

    • Why hasn’t the defense team helped her out & informed her that when a question is posed using one of these qualifiers it is either due to previous testimony (that she was not privy to) or from written records that she was not given access to.

    • It’s really upsetting to see her get so frazzled and confused as to why questions are being asked this way. A woman with her experience & expertise should not be made to look or feel this way.

    Besides being upset with the tone of the prosecutor, I’m also upset that Jenny & Kirk have not sat with her & explained this. Alyce deserves better than this. Does anyone else feel this way?

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