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Jodi Arias Trial – Day 42

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There’s not much more that can be said regarding the Snow White related circus from last Thursday… or the respective ages and/or living conditions of the 7 dwarfs… but you can always click here if you want to watch the highlights again.

Consensus of opinion regarding Martinez — in addition to him being a dickhead, and having lost the plot, lost the jury, and lost the trial a long time ago — is that he’ll not be continuing with his cartoon themed antics today. I wouldn’t be so sure though, because it’s never easy to forecast the activities of a total lunatic. No doubt we’ll find out soon enough.

Having said all that, there’s no getting around the fact that Alyce LaViolette is more than holding her own right now against the little guy, and that’s certain to continue throughout the remainder of her cross. She’s basically playing him like a fiddle… just like Jodi did a few weeks back.
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Leave your comments below on trial day 42… as Jodi takes one step closer to victory.

SJ
Team Jodi

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  3. This trial has been going on since Jan 2. I think it is getting pretty close to being the longest trial in U.S history.
    Anyone know how many more people are left to testify?

    • I think there are 10 people left to testify… Snow White… the 7 dwarfs… a woman that lost her laptop… and someone from the Disney DVD department at Walmart.

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      • OK so now it looks like we all have our game faces on for today 🙂 So SJ what story line do you think we will hear today?

        I do have a question blush, blush…..is it normal for a young man to want to have that much anal sex?

        I have two grown sons and we have always had a very open relationship talking about sex…perhaps tooooo open at times..(covered my ears at times) they never talked about it.

        • I don’t think it’s normal. I think it’s normal to experiment or play around trying it with a partner. I have no expertise in sexual behavior this just my opinion.

            • My Mom lived in Mesa for awhile so I ask her if she was following trial. She said she couldn’t watch it because of all the sexual content.

                • Cindy Jewell, the question in which you ask is more typical than you might think. I know lots of men / guys that talk about such as something of a challenge. Once you do it, it almost feels like a power move over someone because of the pain in which it occurs, and shows that you have a lot of power over someone if you can perform that act.

                • I saw on Dr. Drew a 17 year old girl who is present at the trial and is doing a paper on it…can you believe a parent allowing a 17 year old girl to hear about such graphic sex and see such awful photos that have been shown in the trial?

                • “Once you do it, it almost feels like a power move over someone because of the pain in which it occurs, and shows that you have a lot of power over someone if you can perform that act.”

                  I have heard that there is also a “naughty” factor for some people who like that.

        • I don’t know what is “normal”…but it is pretty common.

          ” according to the Centers for Disease Control’s National Survey of Family Growth, it’s rapidly becoming a regular feature of hetero couples’ horizontal activities. The survey, released last year, showed that 38.2 percent of men between 20 and 39 and 32.6 percent of women ages 18 to 44 engage in heterosexual anal sex”
          http://nymag.com/nightlife/mating/25988/

          I served on a high school sexuality board 8 years ago and many teen couples were engaging in anal sex rather than vaginal sex to “preserve” the girl’s virginity. Virginity pledgers seem to be use that logic…

          “Although teenagers who take “virginity pledges” begin engaging in vaginal intercourse later than teens who have not committed to remain abstinent until marriage, they also are more likely to engage in oral or anal sex than nonpledging virgin teens”
          “Among virgins, boys who had pledged abstinence were four times as likely to have engaged in anal sex as those who did not pledge”
          http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/21606.php

          So fake virgin Travis probably fit right in this mind thought….

          This article in Stlate “Why do women who have anal sex get more orgasms” has some interesting stats.
          http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2010/10/the_riddle_of_the_sphincter.html

        • Personally, I think it’s difficult to say what is “normal” when you talk about sex. I have a female friend who is 91. One day I mentioned oral sex. She was a bit shocked that anyone would do that and claimed she had never performed oral sex and never had it done to her. She had been in the military during WW2. Later, she married and had 2 kids. I don’t think she had many lovers in her life. So, then, I was the one that was shocked because I think oral sex is something that most people (maybe all) do. Of course, we’re from different generations but I always thought oral sex has been around forever.

          As for anal sex, the highest paid porn actresses are the ones that are willing to do anal sex so there is obviously a demand for it. At least on film.

          And, to quote an old line from Woody Allen when he was asked if he thought sex was dirty. His answer: “Only if it’s done right.”

          • Thanks everyone….I don’t live in a box btw. perhaps I’m just thinking of the pain factor…and without KY…I would have killed him myself… I never thought about the “power”.

            • I agree about this thought of how it would hurt and not be enjoyable at all.

              My anus was created to be an exit only 😉

          • My favorite Woody Allen line about sex is when he describes masturbation as “sex with my favorite person in the world.” LOL.

          • There is a tremendous burn-out rate for porn actresses because what is being asked of them is truly beyond the pale.

            There is very little money to be made at it. These poor women get used up very quickly.

            • Yes Tony. Thank you for stating the truth about that issue. I could add more but am too tired.

          • At the minimum, I think anal sex is something that should be discussed btw the two people beforehand. TA didn’t even ask. That 1st time after Jodi’s baptism was daterape, no other way to look at it.

        • My ex liked anal more when he was an abuser/addict. During therapy he told me that it was about power over somebody. He had issues with his mother and other family members that he would never, ever talk about. It eventually came out that he had a lot of anger towards his mother and things she had done.

          Before him, I had never had a relationship where it was even asked for or talked about – so when it came up with my ex my first thought was that he was secretly homosexual. But looking back I do believe it was an anger/power issue.

      • some of the lawyers today are admitting… he is losing that jury… he is wasting time on stupid questions …move on JM…

    • The Michael Peterson trial was 5 months long.. OJ Simpson was over 8 months… Scott Peterson was 9 months…..I really hope Jodi’s trial doesn’t go that long… It’s bad enough that its taken 4+ years to even get to trial.

      • Gotta wonder about all these Petersen guys who have been wife killers. Were any of them related – Scott, Drew, Michael?

  4. Ok I just saw on the news a brief interview with Juror #5 as she was leaving courthouse in which she said that what happened was over a ‘joke’ and she would talk to the media at some point but she needed to get home and consult her lawyer? Since when do jurors need lawyers unless it’s in the back of their mind to milk a case for money? Jodi’s life is on the line and the jury shouldn’t joke about any of it!! Spectators, on the other hand, can, because JM is making a mockery of this case. Snow White…obsess much Juan? Also I posted this yesterday but didn’t see it later so I thought it was worth saying again. It would be brilliant if JM just fessed up and announced ‘Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury. I have a little d#ck. This is what makes me bitter and, therefore, unbearable.’ lol

    • Juror #5 is a dunderhead who needs to be quiet already. But you know that she’ll be going for the media interviews, book deal, etc. She’s caught the famewhore bug.

      • I think # 5 came to trial to get the media’s attention. It looks like a plan of hey everyone I’m over here catch me if you can, and you can catch me at the right price … imo.

        • Yup!!! Looks like she did it to be seen! “Famewhore bug” like Kira said (thats a goid one) lol

      • ‘a dunderhead’ … oh, that’s what you call that hairdo / color job thingy she has going on

    • Maybe she has a sense of humor…I have one and many people DO NOT! Certainly the jury should refrain from joking, as this IS a death penalty case and hardly a laughing matter. But, perhaps it was Juror # 5’s way of relieving some stress that she was feeling. No one knows what the “joke” was about. It may have been irrelevant. I see derogatory comments about her hair, her appearance, etc. She may be a very nice woman but in a judgmental, conservative environment, she may have been on the other’s black list right off the bat. Retaining a lawyer for advice is sensible IMO. I am a bit curious, but IMO waiting for the truth is a good idea.

      • Dorothy, I’ve seen reference to her joke as being something about how much Samuels was paid and she commented they should have invested some money into comfortable chairs for the jury.

        Again, I’ve only seen this as what she MAY have joked about.

        • Well, that “joke” would not have offended me except it may be misconstrued by others as a dig at Dr. Samuels. I probably would have just taken it as “These seats are horribly uncomfortable”. Had they spoken about any other witnesses’ pay rates up to that point in the trial? Perhaps this is why she was in tears, she may have felt it was a harmless statement and the other jurors were blowing it out of proportion. This jury has been there for a long time…I bet they would be uncomfortable even if they had recliners with cup holders…but whatever.

    • LOLOL!!! You meant to say he would yell:

      ‘Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury. THE PROSECUTOR has a little d#ck. DOESN’T HE???????

    • Well… no Juror #5 today…. and the last question the judge asked the jury was if anyone had any contact with or by Juror #5… mmmmm I am thinkin shes gone for good.

  5. One thing to understand about Martinez is that he’s not fundamentally a lunatic, but he is suffering from severe cognitive dissonance right now, which accounts for his irrational behaviour.

    It’s probably not fair to judge him solely on this case. I mean he’s not the brightest crayon in the box, but in most cases I guess he would do a reasonable job.

    The problem for him here is that Jodi is innocent, so nothing works.

    But he doesn’t get it ( at least I THINK he doesn’t – it’s impossible to distinguish ).

    • GB..LOL ” brightest crayon in the box” I love it and will steal it from you…I do agree with you. He is dumb if he was he wouldn’t be in this trial.

    • Yes, I agree JM is the one in this trial most clearly suffering from cognitive dissonance. It’s either him or Jodi at this point. He knows that there is no evidence for pre-med murder, and probably feels pretty crappy to keep pushing this in a DP case. However, if he were to fess up to this and back down, he will look bad & his career will be stalled at least. He exhibits the behavior of someone suffering from a severe internal challenge between his belief system and what he wants to do for his own benefit – he is extremely angry all the time in court, frustrated & anxious.

      • I hear a lot of comments about AL being a man hater. But considering Juan”s track record and how he is verbally bullying the women he crosses, I think it’s possible he may be a WOMAN hater. Why isn’t anyone exploring THAT?

    • ”The problem for him here is that Jodi is innocent, so nothing works.”

      In a nutshell!

      Could go some way to explain him abusing witnesses for the defence! lol

  6. Good morning all!! Martinez acting the way he has just shows one thing. That Jodi, while testifying on the stand, when everyone thought she should stick to just yes and no questions and that she was a little snarky with Martinez, was far from true. She was VERY VERY respectful and took the abuse from Martinez very well! She showed the jury that SHE has it in her to treat others right and with the upmost respect even if they didnt deserve it. So, Jodi, good for you girl, the only person looking like they need help is the prosecution on the case!!!!

    Team Jodi★

    • Yeah, it’s ironic isn’t it how AL’s testimony about abuse victim’s behaviors match perfectly with how Jodi handled the pros treatment of her. Jodi took a lot of crap from Travis too. I could not have done so well if I was in her shoes, no way!

    • Agree LC!! It makes a good contradiction between Jodi who totally took Martinez´s crap,just like she did with Travis and ALV who is a balanced,powerful,emancipated woman who stands her ground and doesnt take shit from noone when feeling threatened or that she´s been treated with disrespect.Hope the jury sees it!

    • Now.. isn’t that true. Jodi was marvellous, how she coped I just don’t know.

  7. I guess it is hard to keep talking gibberish when the ship is sinking, you’re supposedly the caption and the passengers are cheering you on. Nothing he says makes sense! I almost pity him but hope he sinks faster than the Titanic! It seems to be even HLN is having a hard time doling out the compliments. They probly hafta pop a valium before they go on air now. If the ultra-conservative Fox News is like ‘WTF?’ it ain’t looking good for the State!!

    • I don’t see this as a left/right issue. It’s more of a muckraking/ethical journalism, fair trial/Lynch mob, chaos/rule of law, lowest common denominator/common decency issue.

  9. It is simply mind blowing how how bad Judge Sherry Stephens is. How can she possibly overrule JW’s objections? This is the most ridiculous trial I’ve ever seen. It’s as if Juan Martinez is the abuser and Sherry Stephens is the enabler who is afraid to do anything about it.

    • I choose to think that she was as dumbfounded as the rest of us and just had to see where JM was going. Kind of like a trainwreck that you don’t want to stare at, but you just can’t help it.

      • I’m totally dumbfounded as to how the judge wouldn’t realize before this trial started how much media attention it would get. It was already getting national attention before trial. Unless she lives in a bubble I don’t see an excuse for not sequestering. Yes, I know AZ doesn’t sequester. So what! It’s her courtroom and she could have done that. She’s just weak. Unless she is friends with JM (which still is no excuse in my opinion) she has let him behave like a big spoiled brat. There’s a reason they are called judges. Maybe I’m missing something.

        • All her objections and over rules are demented, wacky and impossible to understand 😛

      • I believe she was curious.Or dumbfounded as you say.Still,she’s the Judge there,isnt she?She’s not supposed to play the curious kitty ,simply to play by the book!!

    • Joe, exactly what iv been saying since the beginning of this trial. Its like shes intimidated by him, it makes me so mad! !!!

      She NEEDS to put a stop to this, he’s making HER look bad too!

      • And she allows all that gum chewing, eyerolling, sneering, giggling from the spectators. Most judges would clear the room of spectators for that behavior, family or not. In the northeast, none of that would be tolerated in a courtroom. Unless things have changed here too. If so, I’m disgusted.

  10. AA, Joujoubaby and any other legal eagles we may have here, I have a couple of questions from a lay person’s point of view:

    Hypothetically speaking, in any trial, how far does one have to go in negating the prosecutions case through presenting counter evidence, and how much of it can be done by arguing that the evidence is faulty, without presenting any counter evidence? I know this probably changes from case to case – but is there some way to gauge. Let me tell you why I am asking.

    As I look at JM’s case I find a number of loop holes, that you could drive a Mack Truck through. However, so far the defense hasn’t done anything proactive to counter this stuff. Now I understand that they have made a claim of self defense and that is what they will present and let the DA disprove it. But the prosecution has presented a totally different theory and the defense has a lot of stuff they can present that would cast doubt on the credibility of the DA’s case. But so far I haven’t seen the defense actively attack this stuff. For instance:

    1. The whole gun shot sequence thing. This is just so easy to debunk – one ballistics expert, one ME with hard case data, and Kevin Horn’s argument is done. All we’ve heard to date is JW’s statement “Well we’ve heard of people coming to the emergency room with an arrow in their head”. I think debunking this casts a real pall on the credibility of JM, the ME and EF and essentially the whole prosecution in that one could argue they are twisting facts.

    2. The gas cans. Just put someone from AAA or something on the stand about whether or not this is common practice.

    3. The car rental in Redding versus Yreka. Just call someone independent to show that Redding is an obvious place to rent a car, since Yreka doesn’t have but one car rental place.

    4. The recovered bullet vs the hollow points ( just have this closed out) and also a listing of other ammo found at GPa’s.

    Three of these witnesses could answers the defenses questions and be done in about 2 minutes. But it would proactively knock three legs out of the premeditation table JM’s trying to construct.

    The witness(es) challenging the ME’s testimony would, in my opinion, cast a serious pall over the entire credibility of the prosecution. It actually puts into focus the fact that they twisted their story around, with a set of untrue hypotheses, in order to argue DP. Not only does this get the jury, but it may end up having legal ramifications for JM, EF and Kevin Horn.

    Even if the defense were to get a surrebuttal, although I just can’t see this judge allowing that, this evidence would not be proper for surrebuttal.

    So why isn’t the defense attacking this now?

    • Al, your post is right on as usual!

      I also don’t understand why any of that has not been addressed.

      • Best to keep powder dry, let the prosecution paddle up the creek.
        And only then take away the paddle and put a hole in the canoe.
        Err. sorry, probably not the best analogy, hope you get the point.

        • geebee2

          I’d be very interested to know what you mean by put a hole in the canoe? What could that consist of?

          • His quick temper, his anger, showing he’s aggressive, showing he’s mean and a bully. To be those are holes in the canoe. Showing he didn’t think twice about knocking the shit out of Jodi.

              • The haters are saying none of that should be believed because it all comes from Jodi. Hopefully the jurors are actually listening. It comes from Sky and Chris, old girlfriends, Travis’s journals, his writings, etc.

                It’s like they’re in denial. Travis was not a saint! In fact, he could be a pretty nasty guy. The prosecution shouldn’t have made him out to be an angel, because not only does the truth about him support Jodi’s self defense claim, it also damages the credibility of the prosecution. Why are they making Travis out to be something he wasn’t?

    • Great questions Al. I am hopeful that after the Dwarves testify, the defense will put their own ME on to dispute the current and very new “theory” of the pros.

    • I’m not a lawyer but I think their focus has been to present Jodi’s DV abuse and that she defended herself. They haven’t tried to discredit JM theory because they’re telling Jodi’s side of the story. I also think JM wants the jury to believe the gunshot came last, but I think it’s his belief or his contention it doesn’t matter if it came last because she premeditated the murder. I don’t know how well versed the jury is with the Internet and car rentals but maybe the defense is relying on the jury’s personal experience.its the prosecutions burden to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. Right now the trip, the gas cans, the gun and the murder all have reasonable doubt. Even putting it together the odds of someone renting a car in a different city/town to save money? Highly probable. Bringing gas cans on a trip through the desert that are borrowed (just to remind you someone would know she borrowed them)? Moderately probable. A single male (who happens to be a Republican not that I like to make stereo types but come on…) owning an unregistered 25 caliber gun in the state of AZ which has laxed gun laws? Highly probable. Now the murder itself… With her history where she hasn’t been violent and she kills a person out of the blue? Low probability of this being a planned event. Plus the crime scene IMHO demonstrates she shot him first he spits blood up at the sink and from there the rest of the scene occurs down the hall. JM wants the jury to believe a gory tale of horror. Ironically, he’s compared Jodi to Snow White a cartoon. Don’t think these two perspectives mesh up well in the jury’s mind. But i don’t know because they may be thinking something else..

    • I have wondered these same things. I also wonder if they could find a record of a return at Walmart for the gas can. It seems like there are so many things they could prove. Maybe it’s still yet to come.

    • They don’t have to is the short answer.

      If you really think the gas cans, rental car, and the obvious twisting of the order of the wounds is proof of premeditation, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

      It costs money to have those witnesses. Jodi is indigent.

      • But if you are being charged with Premeditated Murder I would think you would do everything possible to prove that you DIDN’T premeditate it!

      • I’m not saying it shows premeditation. I’m just saying its so bogus on the face of it, why not just show it as being bogus and let JM rot.

        Doesn’t the state pick up the costs of witnesses etc? I guess they probably have a budget limit, but that shouldn’t stop her from being able to present a valid defense. But what do I know, how the state budgets this stuff.

        • The thing is the defense’s job is to create reasonable doubt with the jury.

          There is reasonable doubt EVERYWHERE in this case, actually enough to acquit Jodi Arias outright.

          However, given all of the media publicity and lack of sequestration, the chances of Jodi being acquitted are next to zero, tragically.

    • AL, As a lay person, I think is comes down to ones live experiences are regarding what they believe to be important factors. I get it, I too want see more of debunking testimony.

      re #1. When I was 10, my father was shot twice and walked above 1/4 mile. I don’t know the calliber of the gun or any details of the wounds. Then you here about people walking in the ER with a bullet in their head..for me as a lay person, I can see this happening.
      re#2. My husband and I ride long distances on a motorcycle. We have to make several stops to gas up. We see tons of people filling up gas and putting them in the back of their pickup or cars. I think we have 5 gas cans in our garage now and use them all depending…where we are going.
      re#3. I have friend and family that will drive a distance to save a buck on a rental car and air ticket. I think the name of the company BUDGET tell why Jodi used them instead of the local Enterprise or Hertz. While we are here at the Budget rent a car place…I work in p/c insurance for 14 yrs. It is a fact red car do get stopped more than any other color of vehicle.
      re#4. I don’t what to say about that one.
      This much I do know..I think it natural for people to want to know MOTIVE and wonder what in the hell went down that day. I think the defense is did a good job in debunking the jealous motive.
      My daughter had a friend murder their senior year of HS. The only thing I wanted to know is WHY? A motive as never established in her case.
      I don’t know if this helps good luck figuring this out.

    • Without getting too technical, it is all a judgment call on the part of the defense. It’s largely a game of resource allocation. And then over here, you’ve got favoritism. (Sorry, horrible Coen Bros. reference, but I digress). But really, I can’t peek into their war room, but I’d guess that they plan to deal with most of that in closing, pound on the burden of proof, etc., and that they put their $$, time and energy into these experts. I think it was the right call, which is having the probably unforeseen but no less dramatic effect of causing an utter mental meltdown in the prosecution, and highlighted by a passion play with each of these experts which casts Jodi as a victim, and Travis cum Martinez as the abuser. (Apologies for poor syntax)

      • But aside from my experience of having to allocate scarce resources in trial prep, without knowing exactly how a trial will play out, other people’s lay opinions on this would be as valuable as mine.

    • AL,

      I totally agree that it would only take a few more witnesses to debunk JUAN. Maybe you should email the defense office or call them.

  11. I ho,I ho it’s off to court I go’I ho ,I ho is what I’ll say to judge pickles,I ho I ho I ho I ho. This is what our Crumpy little proseucutor is saying right about now as he is wagging his little dick with the tweesers.after taking a wee.GOOD MORNING EVERYONE, AND HOW WAS YOUR WEEKEND.

    • Good morning Glen!!!Patiently waiting for another great day for the Defense!

  12. I’m always interested in people’s family histories. Their stories are all very compelling in their own way. And you can often understand people a little better if you know something of the people who were most influential in their life and the family dynamics. With that I decided to do a quick look at Travis’ immediate family and I find interesting clues about how and where he learned his views of the world (and even perhaps of women and relationships).

    The one thing that jumps out at me about Travis’ immediate family is that his father, Gary, was married three times, producing six children, two in the first and then four in the third although it appears he was not around to participate in any of their upbringing on a daily basis. (Gary’s mom, Norma Jean, must have been real proud of his Mormon family values.) Here’s the facts as shown in public records:

    Travis’ father: Gary David Alexander b. 1948 d. 1997 (on Travis’ 20th birthday)

    Married: (1) 1967 – 1973 Carol Elder
    Children:
    Gary David 1969
    Dennis Gregory 1971 (this is the Dennis with the Riverside police record.)

    Married (2) 1974 – 1975 Patti Ann White
    No children

    Married (3) 1977 – 1984 Pamela Elizabeth Morgan b. 1953 d. 2005
    Children:
    Travis Victor 1977 (born 3 months after his parents married)
    Tanisha Joy 1979
    Samantha Ann 1981
    Hillary Jean 1982

    So Travis’ parents divorced when he was 7 years old, most likely leaving his mother with four children aged 7, 5, 3 and 2. I wonder what kind of financial and/or emotional support she was getting from Gary. And (speculating only) could there have been a bit of infidelity on Gary’s part during these marriages? He married his second wife within a year of his divorce from his first wife, and that marriage only lasted 14 months.

    I’ve been unable to learn when Travis (and his three younger sisters) went to live with his paternal grandmother. But here’s what we know of her: Norma Jean Preston was born 1932 in Oklahoma but by age 8 is living in Corona, Riverside County, California with her parents, Ollie and Vida Preston (as well as with her 18-year-old brother Dennis and his 16-year-old wife, Mildred.) In 1947, at age 14, Norma married John David Alexander and they continued living in the Riverside area. Besides Gary, Norma and John also had another son, Michael (who is apparently still alive, according to Norma’s Dec 2012 obituary.) It appears that Norma and John may have divorced at some point in the ’50s (and then perhaps even remarried in 1960 but then divorced again shortly thereafter) because in 1963 Norma married James Ner Sarvey (1938-2002) who was apparently around when Travis was living with Norma.

    Of Travis’ grandfather, John David Alexander, we know that he was born and raised in New Mexico in a family of at least 10 children, a farmer’s son. He appears to have been married twice, having married a Carolyn J Hottle in Riverside in 1964. It is believed that he may still be alive.

    • Oh crap Ms. B, since you spelled out the genealogy there in Oklahoma I need to see if I am related to them…there is a slight family resemblence with the women.

      fudge.

          • No I am not. But family on both sides are…quite a convoluted family history I have.

            • BeeCee, maybe we are related too. I am a 5th gen Oklahoman on both sides- but I see no family resemblance, fortunately with any Preston nor Alexander….and I have no Okie relations either. My forbearers all stayed and toughed out the Depression (some people call us stubborn, we call it tenacity)

              • We have the dark hair petite going on in our family. I do have a sibling who must have inherited the same eye-rolling that Samantha has!!! (NOT saying we are related…just saying it is funny)

                LOLOLOL

                If you think about it a lot of us are probably related in some way or another….

                • six degree, six degrees…My daughter has the eye-rolling thing thing DOWN…but I’m chalking that up to her being 13. I just hope they don’t get stuck that way!

      • LOL.

        pretty common then, doesn’t make it right.

        I jokingly call my grandfather on one side a pedophile because he was in his 50’s when he married my grandma who was 16. (I never knew him, he died the year I was born)

        • My dad married my mother when she was 14 years old. He didn’t know how old she was.

          She lied on the marriage certificate she was 18.

          This was back in 1931. Her mother was horrified they got married, but she like my dad, who was 23 at the time.

          FTR, I am almost the youngest in the family. I was born many years later.

          • My great-grandmother was 14 when she married my great-grandfather. He was 21, I think. The sad thing is that they had three kids and then divorced…she left with one son and left my grandmother and other great-uncle with their father. He remarried and my grandmother didn’t stay in contact with her bio mother. So growing up, the woman I knew as my great-grandmother was actually my step great-grandmother.

    • That is interesting…so who is Steven’s father? And Travis has a sister named Allie too, right?

        • You’re right, Kira…there is a Steven James Alexander born 7 May 1986 whose mother’s maiden name is Morgan. I missed him in my research since he was born in San Bernardino rather than Riverside. I would need to know more about Allie to find her. I will post a correction below.

          • Ms B
            Allie’s name is Allie Tilghman
            She is married and her name is now Allie Iglesias.

      • Eight kids total sounds about right. I think Steven has been at the trial. He was also on “48 Hours.”

    • I believe you left out another brother. There were at least seven children altogether.

    • Correction to Alexander Genealogy (see addition of Steven James below):

      Travis’ father: Gary David Alexander b. 1948 d. 1997 (on Travis’ 20th birthday)

      Married: (1) 1967 – 1973 Carol Elder
      Children:
      Gary David 1969
      Dennis Gregory 1971 (this is the Dennis with the Riverside police record.)

      Married (2) 1974 – 1975 Patti Ann White
      No children

      Married (3) 1977 – 1984 Pamela Elizabeth Morgan b. 1953 d. 2005
      Children:
      Travis Victor 1977 (born 3 months after his parents married)
      Tanisha Joy 1979
      Samantha Ann 1981
      Hillary Jean 1982
      Steven James 1986 (this one is confusing, and maybe one of the reasons I missed him on the first go-round, since Travis’ parents divorced, according to California divorce records, on 2 Aug 1984.)

      I also now understand there is a sister Allie as well but I have no information on her. Anybody know anything?

      • Maybe Travis’ parents reconciled but didn’t remarry, and had Steven then. I think Allie has a different last name, so she may be the mother’s child from a later relationship? I don’t know if Travis’ parents were still together when his father died.

  13. OK, I finally found the support site for TA on FB. I guess I really didn’t look too hard in the past, bcuz I found it rather easily. I think if TA could see the stuff that was posted on there, he would be rolling in his grave, and rolling towards the closest youngest human in the graveyard at that. I don’t mean that, but maybe I do in a sense. This guy lied to women, abused them, manipulated them, and finally went too far and paid the price. You can clearly see from the IM’s, Text messages etc… that he was getting madder and madder, and saying things that were more intense, so her story of him getting more abusive, physically, makes total sense from the evidence that was presented, not just from the stories or interviews that the experts had with JA.
    I hope that JM is found guilty of little dick syndrome. There is enough evidence to show that he has little man / dick syndrome, and judge pickles should go ahead and use her gavel and say “JM, you are guilty of having a little one”! HAHA
    Who compares Snow White to JA, and compares prince charming to TA? WTF!!!

    JA, Not Guilty, and I hope she gets off on self defense and was justified. If I was on that jury, you couldn’t convince me that it wasn’t self defense.

    • For real.

      Who the fuck would find Snow White guilty and put her to death.

      I am looking forward to more today….. this little guy is throwing this case.

    • I know he didn’t get that he’s doing that because he wants to misconstrue Alice’s testimony. She’s not allowing him to do that and she’s doing a very good job at it. I heard the CE on HLN radio because I’m driving can’t watch it while driving then I watched it instead and it gave me a very different perspective. JM gets very testy and annoyed. He’s even flustered because Alice was cool while answering and she tells him I’m sorry but I don’t understand your question whenever he would mischaracterize her work and testimony. He even puts his hands in his pockets to control himself. I sensed a lot of insecurity from him. He also lost his line of questioning because he asked her about whether Jodi wrote anything negative about Travis and then jumps to whether she wrote anything negative about herself…. At the end it’s attain wreck and he’s not focusing on facts. He’s focused on confusing the witness and making her appear as if she doesn’t know what she’s talking about. He gets personal rather than focus on the case.

      • You are right on the button! He isn’t seeking the truth and facts. He launches into a character assassination. And the only reason he does that is because he has no valid argument for the witness’ testimony.

    • He knew he was a deeply flawed individual, yet he couldn’t bring himself to get the counseling and psychiatric help he needed to deal with his issues.

      Why is this so hard for people to understand?

    • Good morning, Janeen!
      New kitty, I see! So pretty!
      (Reminds me of a departed one I used to know and love, sniff.)
      Wonder what we will see today as trial progresses.

        • No way! No need to change it, I LOVE reminders of my Emily (aka Emmers 🙂 ) – she had a good life and none of us is immortal. Very kind and thoughtful of you to offer, but seeing your Taz brings me comfort rather than pain and all is well, Janeen.

  16. Food for thought, from 1869:

    ” There is never any want of women who complain of ill-usage by their husbands. There would be infinitely more, if complaint were not the greatest of all provocatives to a repetition and increase of the ill-usage. It is this which frustrates all attempts to maintain the power but protect the woman against its abuses. In no other case (except that of a child) is the person who has been proved judicially to have suffered an injury, replaced under the physical power of the culprit who inflicted it. Accordingly wives, even in the most extreme and protracted cases of bodily ill-usage, hardly ever dare avail themselves of the laws made for their protection: and if, in a moment of irrepressible indignation, or by the interference of neighbours, they are induced to do so, their whole effort afterwards is to disclose as little as they can, and to beg off their tyrant from his merited chastisement.”

    John Stuart Mill , The Subjection of Women, 1869

    • Wow. 1869. And still, so little has changed….
      And all the dullest knives in the drawer, drabbest crayons in the box, and dimmest stars in the sky just keep right on trying to NOT rock the boat, and be obedient little sheeples, put the blame on Jodi and keep kissing the asses of belligerant power brokers instead of standing up and THINKING for themselves.

  17. Travis Alexander Fund Raiser – necklace???? WTH??? Okay this is starting to stink of a scam by some of the minions, FB site asking 33,000.00 ‘likes’ to each send in 20.00?? 66,000.00 if they all send in. That’s MORE than I make in a year????

    Need more coffee…it’s going to be one of those days!!

  18. Gail…the vultures are circling…nothing like someone else’s pain, suffering, hardship, victim status, etc. to bring out the best of humanity huh? It’s so pathetic and disheartening.

  19. SJ – How does Jodi get the messages left for her here? Does she know how many supporters she has?

  20. I saw an exchange between Beth Karras and one of the men on the afternoon segments and she said that she had been given the Travis emails (yes, the ranting ones) over a year ago…yet you noticed no one at HLN ever aired those.

    I have no idea why I’m upset about that – I saw what these same talking heads did during the OJ trial.

    • Yes. And then they were shocked by the verdict. Casey Anthony case too. There was simply no evidence in the Casey Anthony case, yet they chose to blame the jury.

  21. Travis wanted a (pure) wife, according to a poster over somewhere in another universe. What is a pure wife mean? Virginal, barefoot and pregnant, has no input except to ask “What would you like for dinner?” Shuts up and doesn’t talk back? Is there any woman that is like that anymore? Do Mormon men expect that type of behavior?

    • Those “pure” women didn’t want anything to do with him. Word gets around in that tight circle.

    • Pure wife should also blame herself at all times when things are not smooth, write in a journal what she should do to ameliorate herself, and should know by the Law of Attraction that she is guilty of not being positive enough to attract such misery upon herself.
      There never were any such wives except for shriveled stunted souls living in hidden 24/7 self-flagellating obsequious slavery and thanking the lord to have such a ‘good’ master who forgave them their faults.

  22. I wish the public would remember that AVL IS ALSO an expert in trating perpetrators of domestic violence and TA has to be on trial as well. She helps men she does not hate them!!

  24. I bet JM’s wife has his balls in her pocket at home. That’s why he darts around all crazy. I’m sorry if I seem like a hater but his behavior is so unprofessional!!

    • If there is a woman who could stand to be around him, SHE’s the one with the balls – that’s why he’s so angry…he has none….

    • LOL I wondered that, I don’t know if he is married, doesn’t mean anything, but he doesn’t wear a wedding ring. I’m betting he thought about his theatrics on Thur, and will tone it down some, but then again he is playing to the camera.

      • Some people around here were saying he was gay. I don’t know what guy would see anything in him.

        • I’ve read that he’s gay, and I’ve also read that he’s not married but has a long-term girlfriend. Either way, I don’t know how any partner could stand to be around him for long.

          Imagine Kermit in the bedroom:

          “What’s my name? You know my name, RIGHT?”

          “The Prosecutor! You’re the Prosecutor!”

          “You like getting it from The Prosecutor, DON’T YOU?”

          I just made myself ill.

    • Can you imagine what their fights sounds like? “The HUSBAND is angry!!”, “The WIFE should not talk back to HUSBAND that way!!”, and on and on and on… 🙂

  25. Quoted from yesterdays link, JM boss’s interview -“I’m starting to become very concerned that the media circus here is going to create an appellate issue, where they can say at some point because the jury isn’t sequestered,” he said. “That there’s no way that they could have been affected at some point. And that’s a big concern that I have. I think if the court had any sense that we would be where we are now, that [sequestration] would have been seriously considered.”

    Arizona hasn’t a sequestered jury in a very long time.

    Montgomery believes one of the reasons for that is because it’s very hard on the jury members, and it would be difficult for them to concentrate on the trial when you pull them from their everyday lives.”

    Something VERY bad jumps out at me here. let me re-quote part of this…
    “it’s very hard on the jury members, and it would be difficult for them to concentrate on the trial when you pull them from their everyday lives”.

    So, is the CA really stating, on the record, that anyone that is pulled away from their “everyday lives” may not be able to concentrate on a trial? I believe that this would go far ALL people involved then, wouldnt it?

    I’m pretty sure the law states that a defendant has the right to full participation in their trial and that the state needs to allow them the ability to do so! How can this man say the reason that a jury shouldn’t be “pulled away from their everyday lives” is because they may not be able to concentrate on a trial, yet they will put a defendant on trial in custody with CONVICTED people, wake them up at 4 AM, feed them twice a day, unless they want to split one of the meals in half and save it for later, not be given the basic “stress releases” that a person not in custody would have at their disposal, etc….?

    If a juror can’t be expected to “concentrate” on a trial while staying in a nice hotel, then how in the fuck do they expect a defendant to “concentrate” on a trial when they are being treated like an animal in a cage?

    I would guess that the CA would say something along the lines of “a person gives up the right to these freedoms” when they are charged with a crime, however i do not see this as a valid argument, as this constitutional right is only for people that are charged with a crime, so that wouldnt make any sense.

    If the defendant is expected to be “with it” at trial and be able to fight for his/her freedom, even when in an environment filled with stress and penalty, then the jury should be expected to be able to handle it also. If not, then maybe they need to look for better jurors.

    THe CA’s own words should/could/will be used as an argument in appeal. An appeal can now be made that Jodi was not given the needs to fully defend herself. If the courts try to say this isnt so, then the CA himself should be called to testify on the statement he made above. If the CA agrees that the defendant can infact “concentrate” while in jail, fed 2 times a day, etc… then he needs to answer the question “why wasn’t the jury sequestered?” again. Mr. CA, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

    • I saw that too, Sirlips. Just his statement alone could be used in the appeal process. His ADMITTING he is concerned that they are not sequestered is HUGE.

      • I almost think the D.A. is TRYING to get a mistrial, or, failing that, getting any conviction overturned on appeal.

        They got in over their heads with this case.

        • I think Juan-abee is also purposely throwing this case. I don’t know why, but I have to believe that SOMEONE has told him he has gone over the edge into lunacy.

          • I was thinking that myself awhile back, but I think JM thinks too highly of himself to do that. This guy really believes that Jodi premeditated this murder, which shows his lack of competence. Anyone who thinks that because she had gas cans with her to drive across the dessert at night is tantamount to premeditated murder are complete imbeciles. I lived in the dessert, you never leave home without at least 5 gallons at all times.
            But one thing that truly concerns me is what someone had said awhile back, concerning this jury and not being sequestered. I’m really worried that they will give her a guilty plea for fear of the lynch mob afterwards. HLN is completely to blame for this, and we would all be doing a civic duty to complain as much as we can to whoever will listen to make sure this never happens to another defendant. If they want to allow media into the courtrooms, make it ONLY CSPAN. They just show live coverage and that’s it.

      • I remember in CA trial potential jurors being asked extensively about their ability to be away from family and jobs. If it wasn’t too much of a hardship combined with court’s going out of it’s way to make sure the jurors were comfortable, then I don’t see how it would be hard to concentrate on the trial. The judge for Casey was great about making sure the jurors were fed good and comfortable. He set a very good example.

    • I agree Sirlips…and I would add that those draconian rules they have in their prison system in Arizona should NOT be able to be imposed on a “defendant” EVER – ESPECIALLY a “defendant” who is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty…

      There is NO WAY JA would ever get a fair trial in Arizona even if they were sequestered. Between JM, scumbag Flores, samantha stephens, – how could she?? And now we add the CA who’s flapping his mouth to the same medium being blamed for reporting on the trial…

      It’s an insance display of “How NOT to try a case” and it should be taught in law schools around the world. IMO (LOL LOL)

    • “it’s very hard on the jury members, and it would be difficult for them to concentrate on the trial when you pull them from their everyday lives”.

      And in 2013 part of all our everyday lives is some sort of connection to social media.

      So one could go martinez and twist those words to interpret he meant: ‘it would be very hard on the jurors and difficult for them to concentrate on the trial when you pull them from the everyday aspect of social media.’

      Nurmi was 200% correct in his motion its a fairy tale belief the jurors are 100% pulled from some sort of connection.

  26. We need to remember, pro JM followers think he is superior and credit him for thinking “out of the box” and he like to trump with his Ace during the last hand. So we will see..does he have a wabbit up his sleeve?

    • It’s incredible to me that some are able to see it that way, but I know you are right,because every time I go to WS to take a peek and see if they have finally changed their tune after more time and information have been gone through, i have been consistently disappointed. I have come to the conclusion that their decision-making is based on faith rather than logic, and that they place more credence in their own subjective beliefs and emotions than they do in objective facts and evidence. It is like trying to reason with members of a cult from medieval times. Their false god is Juan Martinez and their false messiah is Saint Travis.

      • Scary thing is that some people in the audience really BELIEVE it when the magician uses sleight of hand to pull rabbit out of hat…

  27. Can anyone expand on this? … I was listening to a online radio show that Katie Cool Lady speaks on (KCL is watching the trial and has befriended TAs family). Katie was saying that on Thursday at the 3:00 break, AL got off the stand and walked over to TAs sister, Sam, and spoke to her. Katie does not know what AL said to Sam but Katies concern is that is violates the Victims Bill of Rights. Anyone know more?
    Also, other guests on the show – – and I was wondering if they are watching the same trial! Anywho, basically they said Samuels and AL careers are RUINED.

    • Sounds like typical Websleuths BS. They all like to think that they’re super-special courtroom spies but most of what they spew is pure fantasy and conjecture.

  28. This whole thing troubles me – and at so many different levels. Not only do I fear for Jodi (and do so hope the jury is hearing her underlying story – devoid of any input from what I call the “HLN Hate Parade”), but it also frightens me to see the incredible amount of hatred spewing from what seems to be about 90% of those following the trial. (It’s like they’re watching a different trial than I am!) Where in the world is all that profound anger coming from? I know if you were to ask any of them, they would say that their righteous angry is because of how Travis was killed. But no, there is definitely something else going on here, at a much deeper level, like an unfulfilled need to just find somewhere to vent one’s unresolved anger – and Jodi has turned out to be the most perfect target. And it is this blatant display of misogyny that further unnerves me. Even though I have always known that it has forever dwelled within our social sub-structure (and definitely within many others), this trial is showing just how deep it actual runs. (I even get a feeling that women are spewing out even more hatred at Jodi than men are.)

    But maybe it is a good thing to have misogyny raising its ugly head, possibly providing a momentary opportunity to lop off at least a small piece of that head. However, that alone could be a monumental job. After all, we’d be trying to use logic against unexamined emotions, a very tough sell. For instance, look at the fact that 90% of the viewing population would rather believe that a young woman (of above average intelligence, with nothing to gain except some very major heartache – to say the very least) would, without any physical provocation, slaughter the man she loved, simply because he wasn’t taking her to Cancun (with a popular attitude that this is, of course, how we “scorned women” typically behave). These folks would rather believe that bizarre story than believe a man who has displayed a great deal of disrespect for women (not just Jodi) could possibly have also been abusive. And even if they do acknowledge Travis’ misogynistic tendencies they would simply follow up by saying “but that doesn’t prove abuse.” What they are not understanding (because their hatred is getting in the way) is that it doesn’t need to prove anything, it simply needs to diminish the probability (to a point called “reasonable doubt”) that Jodi was the initiator of the violence.

    But it seems that “reasonable doubt” does not play much of a role in the justice system of the Court of Public Opinion. They are all self-proclaimed judges, jury and wannabe executioners who seem to have absolutely no doubt that they already know the truth (even before hearing the facts). They even want Jodi to defend herself but to be sure not to say anything negative about Travis because that is “character assassination of the victim.” (She’s damned if she does – and so forth.) I really don’t get it – and yet I do. Scary – but, at the same time, enlightening.

    • Excellent post. There is so much misinformation circulating. I was listening to a radio show where some one who was “in the court room” said that Ms. LaViolette said that Travis was the most abusive person she had ever seen… and then said ALV told JM on the stand that he was acting like an abuser. WTF trial is she watching??

      I see on the TA site some dude who says he is in the courtroom every day. Yet his posts state he is in GA… his answer? “I just need to update my phone” Uh, no. You are not there.

      This trial will be used by law schools forever, as an example of how NOT to try a case.

      • Yeah, and that is ridiculous. ALV said nothing of the sort about Travis or Kermit. These people love to make things sound worse than they are.

    • Ms. B!
      What an awesome post!!!

      The more I read here, the more I love this site!
      The way that people here think, the way that they share their experiences and opinions, it is such a wonderful collection of good and decent and reasonable and intelligent minds, from diverse backgrounds and opinions…. it feels like home to come here. I dont want to sound maudlin, but geez, I just find myself loving all of you! Even though we are in the minority, at least WE EXIST, and that gives me so much HOPE for the future of humanity. Hope that was very SCARCE to be found for me, before I found this site and discovered all of you. People who make sense. People who THINK! People who are NOT RULED by hatred and perceived righteous vengeance. Thank you ALL!

      Okay, that is my rant for today….

      • I agree with you 100% Sable. I feel we are lucky to have found this site and every time I hear/see the haters in action I can’t help but think; the meek shall inherit the earth – and I think I now know what it means. 😉

  29. I was wondering how do you get a photo by that little G symbol? I am ready to come out. lol Point well taken in the ‘no balls’ comment. I bet he finds a way to work in Rapunzel today since it’s the latest Disney fad. No way will he attempt Beauty and the Beast!

  30. I really really hope at this point there is no mistrial. I think the defense has won this case 100%.

    However, I do think the jury should have been sequestered from the beginning and they should be in court 6 days a week for 8 hours a day with a 45 minute lunch. Not to sound harsh but if I was a juror, especially if I was sequestered.. I would want to be in court 10 hours a day 7 days a week just to get done quicker. They are prolonging the amount of time these people are away from their jobs and everyday lives. I’m sure they were asked in the beginning if they were willing to participate for an extended period of time but still. They are not using these peoples time efficiently as they could be.

  31. How do you guys get the little pictures up there? You know with the dogs and cats and stuff.

    I’m really tech savvy in some respects and totally lost in others.

      • I guess (by the time I got here) you already went to gravatar..
        Is this a Lab pup? Your family’s? Adorable!!!!!
        Your family life sounds so charming. If I was an orphan, I would beg to be adopted into your family. Then I would ask you to take us on family vacations to Janeen’s and Maria’s to meet all their cats! And then, maybe to Cindy’s to raid her refrigerator. And THEN, maybe ALL of us, AND ALL of our cats and dogs, could take a trip to Canada to see Gail and that cute Husky pup, cuz I think I saw her post that she would serve CAKE to anyone brave enough to go that far north?

        JK, folks, i am just being extra crazy today, i guess.

    • AL ask one of your little bundles…..and see the look in their eyes…..lol My son told me I had not right to have a cmputer…I told him I was useing one long before he was in this world….hummm but he was right..lol

  32. Man, those folks are insane… look at this post from the TA site:

    I had the WORST insomnia last night!! I laid in bed wondering if Juan Martinez was sleeping, what was he thinking…oh man, he is one incredible man!! Love him…

    WTH? They have gone off the rails…

  33. As I was cleaning out my closet yesterday I found myself thinking about Jodi. Contained In a box of books that I was sorting , there was a book about the law of attraction, a book about Wicca , a book about Hinduism and a bible. Not to mention books by Wayne Dyer and other positive thinkers. Most of those books were purchased within a couple year period somewhere between ages 26 -28 years old. I’m about the same age as Jodi. The media has taken all that and spun her into some Wicca practicing psycho…all I see because I know is someone in a transitory place in their life looking for something greater than themself to guide them. Unfortunately for her, she found guidance in someone else…who helped down a terrible path.

  34. I’m back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG, sounds like I missed a really great week of testimony and crazy antics! I have a lot of you tubing to do. I just got back from a cruise, so I didn’t have internet for a whole week, and I’m trying to get caught up.

  36. Jeeze… my IQ is dropping listening to a radio show where some dumb chick who is writing a book…she says, “When I was a prosecutor, I wanted to slap the other sides witnesses, but because you cant, you have to verbally punch them to show the jury you are on their side.”

    she also claims the mostly male jury would never sentence a woman to death who is willing to perform porn star sex acts…

    America has gone to the shitter.

  38. Hi everyone,Here is part of a response I received from Change.org.I did this but not sure if it will work so if all respond it might help Thanks!..Also there are two petitions going around.Its gonna be a good day.I have to keep the faith in our”justice” system.
    If you spot content on our site that is in violation of our Community Guidelines, notify our moderators by clicking the “X” on the top right of the content if it is a comment, or clicking “Flag as Inappropriate” at the bottom of the petition if you would like to flag the entire petition. Our moderation team will review and take action as needed.

  39. I can’t believe that Amazon has allowed all these haters to attack LaViolettes Book and Reputation.
    I sent a complaint now they are attacking anyone who is not against Ms.Laviolette

    • Its amazing that the people would attack her reputation and don’t even know a dang thing about her

      • Annie,

        I totally agree. But considering the othersides IQ and mentality it doesn’t suprise me. It’s almost as if America gets off on watching someone get the DP whether they are innocent or not. It’s a sick world we live in today.

        As for Amazon and calling them, rememeber folks you are talking to NON-Americas, there calls are overseas in India. I only know this because my daughter recently order something and put the wrong address in for shipping and had to call them. She asked where the calls are being handled and he responed ” in India”.

        You have a right to ask to be transfered back to the U.S. or to talk to someone in the higher -ups. I do this all the time if I have a complaint.

        Hope this helps.

  40. There are three key words to keep in mind here. Reasonable, doubt, and overkill. Reasonable and doubt go together of course and J.W. and Nurmi have raised plenty of that in my opinion. Overkill is the use of excessive force or action that goes further than necessary to achieve it’s goal. It implies that, while the goal was accomplished, there was collateral damage as a result. It may be a literal term referring to physical damage, though it is also used in colloquial conversation as a metaphor. ( From Wikipedia ) Overkill is the hardest hurdle for most people to get beyond in this case IMHO. Travis is dead and Jodi is alive and Travis died a horrible death. Self defense during a life or death struggle causes overkill but it’s going to be the reasonable doubt that will ultimately decide this case. They can prove that JA was there when the crime occurred but there is reasonable doubt that the death was a murder. That’s all the defense has to show.

  41. Can someone help me to get my picture to show. I have created the account and added this site to the links tab but still will not work. Only I could have a problem with something so easy.

  42. Possible Reason for Number of Stab Wounds

    From “Terminal Ballistics”

    “The mental state of the target definitely has an effect on the reaction of a bullet hit. The same strike may make some people give up WHILE MAKE OTHERS BERSERK. This is a factor in incapacitation, but one nearly impossible to predict and unrelated to bullet characteristics.”

    Maybe, Travis went berserk when he was shot and therefore, it took a lot to subdue him. One point about how Travis died. The wounds may look horrific but he did not die a slow agonizing death. It was over very quick.

  44. This trial is 3 months long now mainly because they take so many days off and the days they are in court are so short. No Fridays. They took 2 weeks off early in this trial. People have been ill including the Judge for a few days. The sidebars are ridiculously frequent and lengthy. They are only in court from 9:30 until 4:30 on a good day and that includes 90 minute lunches and breaks. There has been surprisingly little testimony if you really think about it. There have been sideshows to deal with that have slowed the proceedings down.
    They need to sequester the jury, (that isn’t happening I know) they need to hold court on Friday and on Saturday for a half day. They need to to go more hours during the day.This trial could be over much quicker with a competent Judge. She can push the lawyers to move on (I’m talking about you Martinez) instead of wasting so much time on mundane nonsense.
    She has been the Ring Master of a Circus. This trial is embarrassing and it’s producing fame whores over justice.
    There are so many appeal possibilities for Jodi and the defense that this trial will end up being a huge waste of time and money…..unless Jodi walks which I want to see happen but don’t believe it will.

  45. Hey everybody – looking forward to another day of LaViolette.

    Anyone wanna guess if we’ll actually start on time today?

  46. Okay, wanted a new avatar pic, picked Jennifer with a dumbfounded look on her face, and added a caption at the bottom “Juan, dude, WTF?!?”. Can’t really see it very well… Blah, I suck at photo editing, LOL!

  49. Anybody, what time is “Story TIme” starting today?? I hope its “Sleeping Beauty” today!!! Yah! 🙂

      • Cindy, I had not ever heard that term “fur children,” before!
        How cute! Lol.
        I actually DID have a mother’s ring made some years ago, with five cats’ engraved names and their birthstones. Lol.
        Never had the guts to tackle the job of being a human parent, myself. I think parenting has got to be the most important career any one of us can ever rise to the occasion of aspiring to.

      • I used a wonky pic of my fur child…. She looks sooo weirdo I laugh everytime I see it

  51. Good Morning PEEPS!! Gosh! My heart is racing and palms sweating with nervousness for AL. I know she will do fine, she has already shown she is CLEARLY up for the challenge, but I don’t know HOW the hell I would make it through without snapping, myself.

    I’m excited for Juan to get his ass handed to him again today 🙂

  52. I’m betting JM caught hell over the weekend for his nonsense from Thursday and will have a totally different approach today. I’m sure he watched himself and was thoroughly embarrassed!

    • LOL scrappy…that’s assuming napoleon has the ability to feel embarrassment…

    • You know Scrappy, you WOULD think that, but It is apparent JM has NO shame. I think he is the type who will do what he wants to do no matter what. He is probably itching to go at the Disney BS again, just to try and prove his (very dull) point. You know, I’m glad all his idiot “fans” sang high praises this weekend over his “amazing, genius” performance on Thursday, maybe he’s dumb enough to listen and will continue to make a fool out of himself.
      Seriously, I could feel my face FLUSH red embarrassed for him as AL calmly explained OVER and OVER again, ” I have no Idea what Snow Whites relationship was with the Prince”. LOL!!

  53. Please be seated supporters, the trial is about to begin…I hope. Let all pop up for the jury when they come in.

  54. I’m excited for today too Kmiller! Not only will we see AL handle Mtz, but we’ll see therapy in action live on tv hahaha (kill two birds with one stone) I’m so glad I’m able to live these moments 🙂

  55. Why does anyone give a crap about Juror 5? Why give her publicity that she doesn’t deserve? If I’m excused from a trial as a juror you wouldn’t ever hear of me or see me again. The woman craves attention and the media is obliging her along with the public.

      • She’s from Serbia. Her family immigrated here during the Serbian War when she was a teenager, I think is what she said. She’s a Naturalized Citizen.

        • If she was born in Serbia and became a US citizen, she is NOT a naturalized citizen 🙂

          • She said she was a Naturalized Citizen. I don’t know anything personally about what kind of citizen she is or how she got that way, LOL!

            • Immigration is my expertise 🙂
              Naturalized citizen means naturally born in the US.
              This trial needs to be on time….my break time is just about over.

              • This trial is NEVER on time, Suze! 🙂

                Well, I guess Juror #5 doesn’t know what kind of citizen she is ’cause I’m quoting her. LOL! I was born and raised here, and all I know is that I’m a PROUD U.S. Citizen!

                • Me too Ashley! 🙂

                  Juror #5 is taking this to a different level. Obviously she agreed to bare arms on behalf of the US and that’s great, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a juror attending the same trial after being dismissed? What is that?

                • If I were her, I’d be embarrassed to show my face in a courtroom from which I’d been ejected as a juror. She has no shame, evidently. Plus, the media could finally show her face on TV… I don’t care what anybody says; $$$ has to fit in somewhere with her. She’s unemployed and her husband (a truck driver) is in the midst of filing a worker’s comp claim (in other words, also NOT working right now).

                • Me three ………… In her country they still believe in the DP. She wanted Jodi to seek the DP …. She doesn’t know ” dick squat” about the American judicial system. She was radomly selected by the Department of Motor Vehicle Registration is how they select jury members. At least that is what I read on AZ.

                  Wanna Be famous in 15 minutes.

                  Also believe her husband who is a truck driver was in an accident and is suing. Very interesting,…

    • I agree Joe…someone should let the Osbournes know their mutant is running amok in Arizona

  57. So, it’s after Noon here on the East coast… I say we play a little drinking game to help get through JM’s ridiculous cross. Rules… GO!

    • Note: I’ll take my drinks after I get home from picking up the Rugrat from school… 😉

      1 drink every time JM says “Snow White”

      • I will do a shot of whiskey every time JM says “isnt it true”

        wait, maybe not. I would be trashed in an hour….

        • I would drink after, “right”, but I gotta wait until its not a school night, since I will SURELY be SLOSHED!!

          • Jesus… Maybe not shots – SIPS! We’ll all be dead from alcohol poisoning in an hour, Bahaha!!

          • i played a gaime where you had to take a drink when it told you to the next day i got up and drank some water and boy was i sick call my dad and told him his advice to me
            ENJOY IT

      • Someone suggested taking a drink every time he says “right” or “well”. I convinced them they’d be dead from alcohol poisoning in about 30 minutes.

    • I’ll take a SIP of vodka every time JM says, “Yes or no?” and “Just answer the question, Ma’am!”

      Hell, who am I kidding… I’ll still be fucked up within the hour!

      • OMG Ashley, your on a roll today.

        Nothing but the truth the whole truth and nothing else……….. Yes or No?

  58. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Valerie comes in from jury area and says “we’re ready”. Nurmi heads back to chambers. Still waiting.

    WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Valerie is giving the morning instructions to the spectators. We are still waiting for the judge, #JodiArias and Alyce.

  59. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Valerie calls Juan and Flores back to chambers. Alyce is here in teal green with black. #JodiArias

  61. MANY get wound up on the number of stab wounds.
    IS there an official permissible number ?
    IS there a difference for the numbers permitted for men and women ?
    ARE you allowed more if you fear that you are going to be killed ?
    WHAT is the official number if your attacker is bigger, and stronger, than you and perhaps is a mixed martial art expert ?
    IF there is adrenalin pumping through your system and you are in the fight mode, do the official numbers change ?
    WHAT official weapons are allowed for women to defend themselves to fight for their lives ?

    • Oooh good points all around Wes. Yes, I’d like to see the manual of self defense to see what Jodi was allowed and was not allowed to do to continue existing; and what quota of abuse she had to put up with before understanding her life meant nothing to Travis Alexander; especially after he told her “I’ll kill you, bitch.”

  62. I would just die if Juan came in this morning with his salt and pepper hair back! That would totally mean he’s coming on here to see what we’ve been saying! I can totally see him at the hair dresser too…..”They hated it, change it back, man!” LOL!!

    • Lol you imagine if he asked the hair dresser to add a strip of blue, to fit his “rockstar” persona?! Lol

    • Is it even his real hair he dyed, or did he just wear a different hairpiece? Seriously, I wonder… =-/

  63. Who was the real Travis Alexander? That question keeps getting asked and answered by people who knew what Travis wanted them to see. Who is the real Travis Alexander, I think it’s been proven that Jodi Arias appears to be the best candidate to answer that question. Only problem is some people are calling that “demonizing him” Do they want the truth or not?

    • Christi Paul said this morning on HLN that it was the defenses last chance to “vilify” him today, so apparently not if they are watching that crap.

      I just have it on for white noise.

    • I think he had a thing for Jodi,she was able to unlock him.He couldnt understand nor explain why this happened with that girl,whom by the way didnt respect at all or found worthy of marrying.Yet,he couldnt break free from her,she could push his buttons in a good way and that’s why he felt cozy enough to share and disclose personal stories,aspects of personality/sex games preferences etc etc with her!She was kinda like ‘the special’ one.Too bad she wasnt special enough to him…

    • The REAL Travis Alexander is Eddie Snell. Honestly, I think that’s the closest ANYONE’S gonna ever get to seeing the “real” Travis.

    • Well that’s just it Kimberly, we’re dealing with a crowd that wants the truth only if it’s convenient, not if it requires them to re-examine their own reactions and emotional investment in this case.

  64. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    We are still waiting patiently as Martinez, Flores, Willmott and Nurmi are in chambers. #JodiArias

  65. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Martinez and Flores just came out of chambers. They head to the side room back where I sit. #JodiArias

  66. So how many of us think that during the weekend, Martinez realized how stupid he looked bring up the Snow White story and how irrelevant it was. The more he got into it, the more he tried to make sense out of it the more he got lost.

    Will he start by yelling again? (If court ever starts, what happened to 9:30)?

    Or Will he be a different Martinez? (Maybe someone advised him to take it down with ALV because he’s going to look stupid with her every time)!

    • Martinez?????Realizing how stupid he looks?????
      HAHAHAHA,bless your heart LC,you made me laugh.You’re giving him too much credit,no he didnt realize anything ,he will be the same maniac!!

    • His ego would never allow him to feel “stupid”. From all I’ve heard, this has always been JM’s MO in the courtroom.

      The line from Taxi Driver would fit well for a JM response to any critics, “Who, you talkin to me?”

    • The fucked up thing of it was, that he totally got the story wrong. Snow white did not “choose” to leave and her father never “sent her” away. Jesus people! Brush up on your fairy tale facts. Snow white was led to the forest by the now widowed Queen’s lackey whom as asked to kill her and bring back her heart. Sheesh!!

      I just wanted to make that clear since I’m the proud owner of the whole Walt Disney Library which I started collecting since I was about 8 years old (I’m not saying how long ago that was!) lol.

      And seriously, wtf!? Since he’s determined to prosecute Snow White, will he be bringing up charges against the big bad wolf? I mean, he stalk Little Red Riding Hood *AND* I believe he’s the same fucker who destroyed the three little pigs’ homesteads. I mean there’s no physical evidence of that, but he doesn’t care. He can huff and puff until everything fits his perception of the crime.

      btw, Do you guys believe that Humpty Dumpty fell off the wall? Or did some prick push him? I’ve always suspected foul play on that.

      /end rant

  67. the link above not working to get live coverage of the trial went to another site and we have a seal

    • my feed keeps going down.You have to refresh it today,i dont know why.The seal is still on….

  68. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Jodi was just brought in, she heads to chambers. She has white top and tan pants on. #JodiArias

  70. I don’t think my gravatar is working. lol Okay going to watch the trial now. Will figure this out later.

    • I think it IS working, Gwen! Cute little blue eyeball inside a cute little eyeglasses half-frame? You’re out! 🙂

    • I agree! All of this could have been avoided. Was it the D.A.’s who refused the plea bargain or did Martinez and the Alexander family have a say? Those folks really want Jodi dead. Has Jodi ever been in trouble with the law before this tragedy?

  72. I think Judge Pickles adds 1 minute on to the days actual start time, for each time Martinez makes a dick of himself the previous day. This explains why it’s started later & later each week :mrgreen:
    Yes or no? Right?

    SJ
    Team Jodi

      • She is the one who was talking to Juror #5 at the end of the day Thursday and she is a biaaaaaatch!

    • I ain’t afraid of the cold. cruel world outside
      No chicken little running from a falling sky
      The only thing trouble’s me is you. If you leave me what will I do?
      Valerie won’t you be good to me?

  75. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Juan and Flores came back into court. #JodiArias is back in chambers with Nurmi and Willmott. We still are waiting.

  76. Did anyone else watch Jodi testifying? Demonizing him? I missed that she seemed to be still trying to protect him and minimize alot of what he did.

    • No kidding!
      The haters twist reality to support what they have already decided, instead of looking at reality and usinglogic to arrive at a reasoned conclusion. Ass-backwards no-minds.

    • Yes, I pick up on that, she said it wasn’t all bad. At times I felt like N was trying having a hard time getting her to say anything negative about him. I felt like N was trying to get her to fight for herself a little bit.

    • Absolutely, she tried to protect him before the trial by making a plea deal, and she continued to try to soften the blow of his behavior on the stand. I can only imagine how extremely difficult it has been for her, to walk a fine line between defending her life and mitigating the harm to what is left of Travis’ reputation.

      The fact that the haters would prefer her just board the funeral pyre boat like a Viking slave girl says a lot about how “advanced” we are as a culture in terms of women’s rights.

      • It just goes to prove Jodi is a victim of domestic violence and a battered woman. Isn’t that behavior if protecting and minimizing a red flag? If she wasting this up, wouldn’t she had alot more to say? To me some of the sexual acts between Travis and Jodi really seemed to border in rape to me and she says in the stand it wasn’t rape, but she didnt want to do it. I don’t know what testimony of jodi these people are talking about she is slandering him. Must have missed it. Maybe I’m crazy???

        • No, you are not crazy at all! And yes, many of Travis’ acts could constitute rape. I believe Dr Samuels addressed this too, even though Juan tried to pretend that one needs a law degree to know what rape is. As if!

          Many victims of rape and childhood sexual abuse do not believe they are victimized if they didn’t fight or went along with the perpetrator’s wishes. There is a lot of internalizing and self blame, even Jodi said on the stand that she felt she precipitated the event by wearing the wrong nightclothes to bed. Travis never established consent, though.

          I totally agree, the minimizing and protecting proves that she is a battered woman, by placing the batterer’s well being above her own.

          No, she is not slandering him. The haters have a severe unwillingness to hold Travis accountable for his behavior, it doesn’t seem to matter that the phone sex tape, text messages, emails are all HIS WORDS and HIS WORDS ALONE; they still somehow believe Jodi is responsible. Like many victims, Jodi is being scapegoated to save the perpetrator.

  77. Cant listen to those ignoramuses anymore.They shock me…didnt think anything could.

  78. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    I am not sure what they are in chambers for, perhaps still sorting out that Juan autograph incident? #JodiArias

  79. Does anyone know about the supposed comment AL made to Sam (Travis’ sister)? Perhaps they are meeting about that??

      • If AL said anything, it was out of compassion. I can’t believe that she really said anything. I would think she would know better since she has testified many times before.

      • Agree,supposed comment.She’s such a considerate person I believe IF she said sth it must have been sth to the effect of ”Im so sorry for your loss”,just giving her condolences.But of course the haters twisted it…

  82. Martinez is an idiot. Has he never heard the phrase, “You get more flies with honey than with vinegar”?

    Also, SO tired of court starting late. Trust me, if I was a juror on this case, I would be pissed!

    It’s like someone telling you to pick them up at a certain time, you get there, and they’re not ready. So irritating!!

  84. Okay I use 2 emails here so I think I have it linked right to get the gravatar. I see the trial is slow to start leaving the talking heads to make sense of JM’s motives with his Snow White nonsense. They are trying hard and talking like troopers but having a hard time. If I could throw tomato’s at them I would.

  85. Good Afternoon everyone! I wonder why TA family didnt go into chambers again? Must not be over anything earth shattering. Maybe new whitenesses are being added to the list or something? I hope so. Like many of you mentioned earlier I’ve been wondering why the defense hasn’t called on their own foresnic experts to de- bunk the sequence of events etc

    • Or past girlfriends.

      The defense did have the motion for TA’s arrest records that the State had not turned over. I don’t know if that will come into play.

      • Oh I hope so! But I thk if it was for TA arrest records, the family would defenatly be in there.

      • I think once the arresting police department confirmed it was actually Tavis’s brother they arrested it became a non issue

    • I also still get confused as to why Flores is acting almost as 2nd chair to JM! I’ve never seen such a thing! Especially since he was a witness himself!

  86. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    10:15 and we are still waiting. The sound of heavy pounding on the keyboard can be heard as @bskoloff creates magic. #JodiArias

  89. I have to go to the ladies room…but I just know something good is gonna happen while I’m gone!! I know…I know TMI!!!!!

  91. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Martinez and Flores sit patiently at their desk. It is extremely quiet in here. A “siri” ding ding is heard from an iPhone. #JodiArias

      • I wonder if it is about the witness tampering and intimidation that is occurring EVERYWHERE

      • Plus,can you see the oxymoron in this sentence’Martinez and Flores sit patiently at their desk. ‘??C’mon a quiz to kill time!

    • keep’em coming, Renee. Biting my lips here, touching wood, doing headstands and checking the garbage can.

  92. I wonder if Nurmi and JW are in the judge’s chambers talking about ALV having to cancel her speaking engagement on the weekend because of the threats she was getting.

    • I believe that was a false claim. I read somewhere that Alyce cancelled because she did not want to do the rigorous travel schedule right now, during the trial. The person who posted it said they called and listed the name and info of the coordinator they spoke with, so it looked legit.
      PLUS it was a speaking engagement coordinated be the organization that ALYCE founded, lol!
      She wouldn’t cancel herself, now would she? lol!

      • Rick emailed me this:

        The reason IS NOT backlash. She just needs some time off, period. We have a very competent person who
        is taking her place to teach the class, Saturday.

        Rick Kenworthy, PsyD ABD
        ABIP Communications Director
        PHONE: (626) 316-4100
        FAX: (626) 968-4565
        http://www.abips.com

    • Tis could very well be! Maybe they are working out protection for her coming and going from the court house

    • Maybe it’s about requesting that the Judge admonish JM for the way he is abusing AL on the stand. It could explain speaking with the judge alone with AL and not JM.

  96. follow @michaelbkiefer on twitter, he says “the defense is apparently having an ex-parte metting with Judge Sherry Stephens.”

    I don’t know what that is.

    • Ex parte /ˌɛks ˈpɑrtiː/ is a Latin legal term meaning “from (by or for) one party”. An ex parte decision is one decided by a judge without requiring all of the parties to the controversy to be present. In Australian, Canadian, U.K., South African, Indian and U.S. legal doctrines, ex parte means a legal proceeding brought by one person in the absence of and without representation or notification of other parties. It is also used more loosely to refer to improper unilateral contacts with a court, arbitrator or represented party without notice to the other party or counsel for that party.

      • So… anyone know how that could pertain to this case? What it could be about?

    • For our Legal Eagles

      Isn’t an ex-parte meeting sort of out of the normal. Won’t there have to be a really good reason for an ex-parte meeting with the Judge?

      • Another Def.

        Exparte means is a communication of some sort, verbal, written etc that takes part without all parties being present. In the legal context it is usually a communication between the judge and one side with the other side being absent. It is rare and is usually avoided. There are times however where it is necessary and one side may make it known they are seeking an exparte meeting and the judge will determine if it is 1. necessary and 2. legal

  97. Martinez and Flores…a new wine that causes lapses in memory, stuttering, flailing arms, arrogant behavior, delusions of grandeur, catatonic states and an overwhelming desire to discuss fairytales at the drop of a hat…..

  98. Have you all seen the hater’s site that states that AL’s event was cancelled by the organization that was hosting her?

    Of course, they had NO proof of that.

    BTW, do we have proof that AL cancelled her speaking at the event?

    • I believe that was a false claim. I read somewhere that Alyce cancelled because she did not want to do the rigorous travel schedule right now, during the trial. The person who posted it said they called and listed the name and info of the coordinator they spoke with, so it looked legit.
      PLUS it was a speaking engagement coordinated be the organization that ALYCE founded, lol!
      She wouldn’t cancel herself, now would she? lol

  99. I don’t have a problem with starting late if they have to deal with legal issues in the Judges chambers. But I’d sure like to be a fly on the wall in there.

    • Just read Nurmi JA and AL left Chambers now Flores and JM went BACK in!!!!

      Why is Flores allowed in? Did he get a law degree at some point ??? WTH!!!

  100. Yikes I read on Twitter at AL is in chambers with them!!! They better not throw her entire testimony out!!! Can the defense request a mistrial if so?

    • Oh nooooo, why? What would be the reason for that? ??? Maybe they’re going over something and deciding of they should or shouldn’t bring something up.

      Like the pedophile thing????

  101. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Even the trusty state seal looks bored somehow. We are still waiting for Nurmi, Willmott and #JodiArias to come back.

  103. With all the craziness going on around Alyce, would the judge consider cutting off all online/TV coverage? I hope not.

  104. Has anyone gone to watch Evil Dead remake? Yay or Nay? Any recomendations? LOL

    • Judge Suzy, you caught my attention!

      I’ve heard if you like Evil Dead 2 you will like the Evil Dead remake.
      I’ve heard its good overall.

      I want to see it soon.

    • I actually saw it pre-screening…like back in March. It rocked!!! But I will warn you, its pretty graphic, I mean like what I would call “horror porn”…..I loved it, but its not for the weak of stomach.
      The plot line is genius, the character development could of been better, but I connected well with them. Go see it!! But be prepared….lol

  105. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Alyce and the DP mitigation specialist just came out of chambers. Juan and Flores went back into chambers. #JodiArias

  106. Judge Suzy…both my kids saw it and LOVED it…they said it was FANTASTIC….

    • When I was little I saw the original Evil Dead and back then I thought it was the scariest thing ever alongside exorcist lol. During high school a bunch of friends and I rented it VHS and thought it was the funniest cheesiest movie! Bruce Campbell rocks!

  107. My first time watching live. The comment section the first one is: “Here’s what happened. Jodi went there to kill Travis because she knew he would not have her for anything other than sex. Travis was in the shower and Jodi was probably trying to wrangle an invite to Cancun, when he told her no, Jodi flipped out and stabbed Travis three times as he was in the shower. Travis got out of the shower and went to the mirror to assess the damage and try to stop the bleeding (thus the blood on the counter and sink). As Travis was bent over the sink in pain, Jodi began stabbing him in the back multiple times.”

    What???? So did she go there to get a ticket to Cancun, or to kill Travis? I don’t think she would have been able to do both. I can smell the stupid..

    • And since TA kept his ongoing relationship with JA a secret from those nasty PPL folks going, why would she want to be on that trip anyways???

    • haha they watch way to much HLN garbage you can tell when they mimic them word for word it drives me insane. They will not go an investigate on their own but take that Entertainment News channel seriously it is JUNK NEWS for the brainless as the co hosts are there for ratings only not for the truth on anything makes me sick. I wish we could have a regular Court Tv without commentators at all. That would be fair but this crap making up stories that does not even fit the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE is bull crap an a Travesty of Justice in my opinion.

      • Nice ! I. Sure they thought ” that’s what Travis would want” ….. Did the Hughes?

        • Yep the Hughes’ went on their trip as scheduled. I think the day after they found out he had died.

          Anybody else?

      • I haven’t heard anyone bring us the fact that pre paid legal is a pyramid scheme and Travis likely had shistered a lot of people and would have plenty of enemies. I got into one of those get rich quick MLM (fancy talk for Pyramid) home based businesses and lost about 10 grand on it. I was pretty angry with the lady who told me it would “make all my dreams come true.” But no one has even brought that up that I’ve seen. I find that odd.

  109. I will bet this has something to do with the harassment that AL is getting from the public.

    Perhaps the jury sequestering has been brought back up??

    • Geez, I wonder what the heck is going on.

      Can someone checks the latest filings and see if there is anything?

  110. Seriously comparing that Brodrick case to Jodi’s case is ridiculous that woman went to her ex’s house an shot the ex husband an his new wife while they were sleeping. . I just happened to see someone discussing that on FB people are freaking nuts.

  111. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Flores just came out of chambers, grabbed a few papers and went back in. #JodiArias

  112. WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 4m
    Alyce and the DP mitigation specialist just came out of chambers. Juan and Flores went back into chambers. #JodiArias
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    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 42s
    Flores just came out of chambers, grabbed a few papers and went back in. #JodiArias

    • So bizarre! What info could Flores and AL have in common? Why would they include this expert in a chambers closed door meeting? Unless Samantha had given a statement to Flores after AL said something to her.

      I hope she told Samantha to stop rolling her eyes at her lol

    • LOL

      No, they realized what a bang up job he did on this one, so they said they don’t need him (HAHA just kidding)

    • god i hope not that flores would be covering up and making a mess out of someone else life

  114. I watched HLN daily until I discovered all the facts surrounding this case.
    I have ony watched it twice in the last two weeks because I can not stand to listen to them try and cover up Travis’ disgusting behavior.
    I respected Nancy Grace and thought she was a decient person until now.
    To hear her say that ALV is only going off of JA’s word to come to this conclusion that Travis was an abuser totally infurriates me.
    Goodbye HLN.

  115. When they return to the courtroom the Judge will say, “Approach” then ” We will now be taking the noon recess”

  116. is everyone watching the comments on wildabout said flores came out of chamber and got some paperwork and went back in

  118. Seriously, WTF?!? Watch, they’ll start court like 2 minutes before it’s time for me to leave to go to the school!

  120. Latest tweet – “Alyce LaViolette and Jodi’s mitigation expert are back in the courtroom. Travis’ siblings have been called out by the bailiff.”

    SJ
    Team Jodi

    • Are they really gonna make a mountain out of a molehill IF Alyce really did express her condolences or whatever to the family???

      • If the rest of the family is like their deceased brother, then I would say yes.

        Vindictive, vengeful, psychotic assholes.

        They need counseling.

        • That is exactly what I said the other day Bee Cee seriously do you think with all the eye rolling an head shaking an pure drama effects they do that they all are just perfect little angels? I would not put anything past anyone of them to try an get something done if it would hurt Jodi since they all have made it known they want DEATH FOR JODI an nothing less.

          I understand they all hurt but this was not just cold blooded murder like they an PPL an the Mormon friends want every one to believe. It was self defense that is getting turned around how would they feel if it were Travis sitting up there instead ? I guess he would get off though since he spread all those vicious rumors an the friends an co workers believed that crap.

  121. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    I saw Samantha go out the door where the jury comes in. Not the same door that the attorneys went out. #JodiArias

        • If it has to do with the factthat Alyce spoke to Samantha then yeah,it’s ok for her to be there but I cannot imagine Alyce being a pain in the butt,I imagine she only paid her condolences.Why all the fuss??maybe sth we’re unaware of?

    • I wouldn’t be suprised if JM is making a big deal about LV saying something to the sister. I’m sure he would love to do ANYTHING to get her testimony booted.

  122. I just saw a petition on change.org to have organizations remove Alyce LaViolette from being a speaker at their events. It has 3140 signatures. That’s f’d up. How lame and gutless can you be to cancel her presentation?

  126. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Flores, Travis’ brother, Samantha, Mike B. #JodiArias all come out of chambers.

  128. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    #JodiArias smiles at her family and is taken out of the courtroom.

    • I dont know what to make of it…if it did happen. I am certain she was not trying to be malicious in any way.

  130. ildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Juan, Willmott and Nurmi just came out of chambers. Nurmi’s tie makes me a bit sick to my stomach. The big screen lowers. #JodiArias

  132. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Just as I say that, Nurmi, Willmott, Alyce all exit the courtroom out the front door. Stay tuned. Juan is still here with Flores. #JodiArias

  135. I thinking trial canceled for the day and either a del will be made or a mistrial announced tomorrow

  137. i hope this is about the comment i made the day we had 1380 post had to do with flores

  138. HLN thinks everyone is still in courtroom lol… Soon they’ll say breaking news, jodi has left the courtroom

  140. Latest tweet – “Lawyers and family members are going in and out of doors as in a Marx Brothers movie here in the Arias courtroom.”

    SJ
    Team Jodi

  141. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    The only excitement here this morning is hearing doors open. #JodiArias was just brought back in and is seated at her desk.

  142. WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 25s
    The only excitement here this morning is hearing doors open. #JodiArias was just brought back in and is seated at her desk.

  143. after i posted that i went to goole and search for a lawyer and told them what i saw in the jodi trial and they told me they were watching it too it wanted money so i back out

  145. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Nurmi is seated.. not reclined for a change. We wait on Alyce and Willmott now. #JodiArias

  147. Great! All this stress made me crack open my last box of Girl Scout cookies….
    🙁

    • She so pretty. Idk why they talk shit about, oh now shes ugly because shes not blond snd has no make up.She still pretty she has that natural beauty and not everyone has that.

  152. Oh STARTED!!!! They were probably going over that they’ll bring up the pedophile stuff!!!

  154. I just think any talks about sequestering the jury at this point would be useless. “IF the jury has seen any kind of media or talked or heard anything, damage would be done by now. Just doesn’t make sense to me. Ok here we go! Oops not yet…..,…..

      • They are! They’re like french tips but instead of white the tip is RED!! Wow,how original,I had them done like that once but none of my friends liked them 🙁 Now,Im gonna do them again and say ”Hey,IF Jenny Wilmott likes so should you” LOL

    • viri, LOVE the pic of your adorable pup!!! I hope JA sees this <3

      I should be a postage stamp

      • Thanks, Rainy. Yes, My sweet ex-abused girl would give sweet Jodi a little shy wag I’m sure. She recognizes right away who is a gentle trustworthy human now, and is starting to walk with head and tail up without crouching all the time.

  158. WTH is this shit? I swear!

    IF Alyce DID say something to one of the sisters, it wasn’t anything malicious! But they’ll probably make a mountain out of a molehill. And that’s IF she did!

  164. Everytime Ive seen the beginning of the trial when the jury comes in and the camera focuses on Jodi you can see her hold her breath. She is nervous.

  165. Wow, JM is being a little less hostile. But, he is going over the same questions that he did on Thursday?

  167. Is Juan on tranquilizers today? He seems so calm today. Wonder what happened over the weekend.

    • I was just going to point that out. Like..come on… you are a professional. Get to the moral of the story already.

  169. Oh……JM” brought it down”!!! Somebody must have said something to him. But trust…it won’t last long!!!

  170. Kermit seems calm so far.

    The judge looks pissed about something. I bet Juror #5’s media whoring is bugging her.

  171. So, Juan decided to use the let’s talk to her like she is stupid approach today!!! Good grief!

  175. I KNEW IT… I said they’d start 2 minutes before I had to leave! FFUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  177. Omg Martinez dont be a DICK, its going to backfire and WE’RE ALL going to laugh at you, then your going to go home crying or to the bathroom to cry, then Flores is going to have to hold you tight!!!

    • I think he took a benzo before this! They are short lived, he will appear. He looks like he’s swallowing really hard. He’s saying to himself, “be a good boy, be a good boy!” “I think I can I think I can!” Lol

  184. Firecracker my ass. he’s like a deranged mexican jumping bean 🙂

    I find his arm flailing and stalking back and forth very off putting.

  187. Kermit:” Are you done?”
    Oh,f U Martinez!!! Sarcasm?Really?It’s getting old!

  194. Every time AL smiles at JM I think she’s laughing to herself how easy it is to get under his skin

    • And the Dwarfs sing, “We dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, we dig the whole day through. We dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, that’s what we like to do”…..JM is digging!

  202. “If you’re trying to trick me with the year….” Man, Alyce does not take shit!

    Kermit should just call Snow White to the stand.

  203. Eeewwww you saw his face, Martinez? ?? He just made this ugly face, like a scary , mean, evil face!!!!

  204. Who gives a chyt if she was keynote or not. WTH does that have to do with Murder#1…..jackass!!!!

    • I agree he just wants to make her look bad in front of the Jury. They say he did that to Dr. Samuels but I never felt Dr. Samuels looked bad I felt JM was being argumentative an disrespectful on purpose. But the Travis Supporters all thought JM looked wonderful an strong. I can only PRAY some jurors see what I see an hear. Out of all those Jurors they all can’t be like the Travis Supporters which is one sided an will not listen or even look beyond what HLN tells them in this case which is frustrating to me.

  207. OMG I don’t know whether to laugh, cry or what??? He controlled himself for a minute and then he went again… But Alice is good… She’s still not allowing him to mischaracterize her testimony or diagnosis. If he’s smart he won’t stay up their cross examining her too long. She’s running circles around him and he doesn’t even know it. He needs to finish quickly for his own sake and dignity.

  208. I don’t know about the rest of you, but to ME, Kermit is coming off as a dim bulb again. She used it as a catchy title, she used it as a catchy title, she used it as a catchy title. What doesn’t he understand?

  211. OMG, he is such a pompous ASS! I loathe him with EVERY fiber of my being! Even my 15 year old daughter came into the room when I was watching one day and says….”Mama, he looks like a toad!” Lmao!!

  213. All I can say is that if I were on the jury I would see right through his pathetic attempt to discredit her.

  214. Do you think JM tries to get witnesses to become rude so jury will turn on them?

    I can’t wait to hear the juror questions! I hope we get there

  215. Yep, let’s do a sllloooowwwww pan over the whole rolling-eyes-curled-lip Alexander siblings…

  216. I started doing shots for “right”, “Isn’t that the truth” and sidebars. I must to to bed now.

    Just kidding.

  219. Martinez would make Mother Theresa look like she did something bad. Dude has issues.

  223. No matter how bad Martinez wants the answers to be yes or no, life simply doesn’t work that way.

    • exactly. He wants yes or no to force things a certain way. That made sense to do to Jodi because he has to assume she will lie to him but with an expert it is their job to talk.

    • I’ve noticed that a lot about her lately. I get the impression she is drugged; prozac, anti-depressants or something for anxiety, perhaps. (I would have to be in order to listen to JM every freakin’ day.)

      • Good grief! Maybe thats why she’s so tuned out! Would’t that be the cherry on the sundae if this judge is overseeing this trial under the influence of valium or some such drug.

        We need Kalinda to do some back round digging!

  225. I honestly can’t understand why people like this clown. He could do so much better if he wasn’t in douche mode at all times.

  226. He brought ONE page of her CV. If this isn’t a signal of his crooked deceitful behavior for the jury to see I don’t know what is…. It’s so freaking obvious he’s making every effort to mischaracterize her testimony and experience. He’s a freaking idiot.

  227. I think Martinez has spent so much time with Jodi that he, too, has grown very fond of her. That’s why he’s screwing up this case so badly It’s intentional. Love always finds a way.

  228. Here we go again! ALV being disrespected by the little man again…I think she is great and will be strong again during this cross today. This Woman has class!! JM is a fool!!

  229. Good late morning All,

    Just wanted to say hi and hope for a great week. I do have a question for any attorney-types or those knowledgeable in law. If the prosecution decides to, can they stop the trial and make a plea deal in the middle of it all to (like if they see they are losing)? Just curious. It seems this is such a lost cause for the pro at this point… (imho, anyway).

  231. You know,now that I think about it yeah let the jury see Jodi as SnowWhite.Especially today in her cute white t-shirt.Look how sweet,cutie cute and innocent she looks! Up yours,Martinez,Jodi was once as innocent,naive and loving as SnowWhite when along came Travis the evil witch!

  232. ALV is the most calm person I have ever seen! I needs a drink, a pill and a pack of cigarettes! I just want to throw big red juicy apples at him and tell him Fuck it Lets spar!

  235. If I were a juror, I would be wondering why this douche was arguing about something totally irrelevant to the case.

  237. What does this have to do with the State’s charges of 1st degree premeditated murder…..not a damn thing.

    • I think he is trying to excuse his Fairy Tail cross on Friday. He is losing this case.

  238. I can’t wait until Kirk or Jennifer get their turn with Martinez’ expert, who’s been a doctor for 20 minutes.

  239. I think Juan needs to get back to the main points in case. Why is he dwelling on unimportant information

  240. why do they let all if his shit in and the judge will not let the defence evidence in?

    • Good question. Irrelevant attack on expert witness chart and past presentations ‘evidence’?
      What about the contents of her testimony based on the real evidence in this case!

  242. So you can have 5000 things are your cv and Martinez spends his weekend looking for one single thing that he can use to discredit you. Is it really worth it? No.

  247. Calling AA. PLEASE send your research to Nurmi and Wilmott. They need those details so they can go all martinez on the baby psych. If its not been sent I will forward it to them just in case the’ve not had the time to find what you found.

  248. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 55s

    Kirk Nurmi filed another motion for mistrial based on prosecutorial misconduct this morning. I assume that was the in-chambers topic.

    • Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 43s

      In his motion, Nurmi references Martinez’ attacking witnesses, signing autographs; compares the trial to a circus and the Salem Witch Trials

      • Amen! Go Nurmi! This guy keeps filing motions,I dont understand why on earth they are not being taken into consideration.

      • Good for him and I hope someone else in the AZ so-called judicial system has some sense to see what is happening here. And I hope they get in something about witness intimidation. The media needs to be held accountable instead of getting everyone fired up and filled with hate then claiming they are not responsible.

        • Wow! Good for Nurmi! cindyp, I think there should be something done about witness intimidation too!!

      • Wow. It IS like the Salem Witch trials, isn’t it? And you know, it seems to me the judge should be ALL OVER Martinez for attacking the witnesses LONG BEFORE Nurmi has to bring it up. Or the chief prosecutor should be all over Martinez.

  249. Ms. B, renee, Sable, Janeen,…

    We keep asking the same questions…”how can the pro’s think “such and such” when it is obvious that they are wrong”, etc… What are these people thinking?

    Well, I’m getting older, I have had many experiences, i am getting to a point in my life where reflection is a coveted experience rather than a chore. With that said, i am starting to realize, unfortunately, that we live with a lot of stupid people.

    If i tried to say that in my youth, i would have felt arrogant to think this way. However i now have the confidence to say it and the pride not to care what people think if they don’t like it. We live with ALOT of very stupid fucking people.

    I used to think that the world was ran by some “elite”, “very smart”, “very noble intentioned” people. That we were always protected by someone, somewhere, that wouldn’t let the dumb people take over the castle. Sure, I knew that there were good people and bad people and that some of the leaders were bad…but in the end, the good people would never allow the bad people to do anything too bad, and if it got to that point all of the regular, common sense people would stop them.

    As i have gotten older (not that I’m very old, but pushing 40) I have come to the realization that we don’t really have these “magical” people working out all of the world’s problems. I also now see that we didn’t lose these people, we never had them in the first place! There is no “common sense” for most people. There is “common belief”. And when the belief is not in line with rational thinking, we end up with no common sense. These “common beliefs” are taught to us all over the place, from our parents, or schools, our TV and radio… We are bombarded by “beliefs” and there is nothing “common sense” about most of them.

    Case/s in point:
    God? in 2011 the US census said that 76% of all Americans believe with no doubt that there is a god. of those, 80% believe god had a son and did magic tricks, like walking on water and turning water into wine. Only 20% of those polled thought that the KJ Bible was just an analogy, but believed in “God” as a true “thing”. It is one thing to have hope, but to truly believe in the idea of “the great flood”, “the burning bush”, “the rule of thumb” (that’s the rule that a man can beat his wife, as long as the stick he uses is no wider than the man’s thumb), 7 day creationism..etc..is..well…. not the kind of “common sense” we need in this world, IMO.

    46% of our fellow Americans believe our president is a Muslim.

    28% believe Obama was born outside of the US

    46% of Americans do not believe in evolution, but that the world was created in 7 days via a “God”. (not sure how that works, since 51% claim to believe in the Holy Catholic Bible, which teaches creationism…but hey, I didn’t do the poll. I guess these are the “pick and choose” Catholics)

    29% of men believe a man is smarter than a woman.

    32% of women believe a woman is smarter than a man.

    62% believe a serial child molester should be put to death, while 52% believe a serial killer should be put to death. (Even if those killed were children)

    37% believe global warming is a Hoax (as opposed to the 97% of published scientists that say global warming is not only true, but that humans are the largest contributor to global warming)

    89% of people that claim to be religious believe that it is “rude” if someone questions their “faith”.
    68% of people that claim to be religous believe that it is there duty to question/teach someone that “doesnt believe”. (Again, this is strange, since the KJ bible clearly says that it is demanded by god to teach the word to all non believers… i guess 32% just dont like what their god tells them)

    Now, we can have debates around the kitchen table about many of the above things, especially the religious crap, but let’s look at some of the other things our “co-inhabitants” in our society believe… Not just “think could maybe be true”, but actually BELIEVE to be 100% true…

    26% say that they would support segregation of whites from all other races.

    13% believe Obama is the Antichrist (I’m sure this has nothing to do with him being black)

    14% Believe in Bigfoot

    7% believe we faked the Moon Landing

    I know, with all these statistics, I’m bound to piss in someone’s Wheaties, as most of you will fall into at least 1 or 2 of these categories…But my point is, there are ALOT of people that believe in ALOT of stupid shit. I don’t know if god is real or not, or if Obama is really controlled by the lizard men from mars, but i don’t BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART its true or not. I simply don’t “know” as a rational thinker. I can hope…but to say i believe, without proof either way…that’s silly. IM 100% OK, with just using common sense, rather than being fed others beliefs and taking them as my own.

    The reason i bring this all up; it is no surprise at all that HLN and other entertainment networks can get the masses to believe the crap they peddle. There is no conclusion to the original question posed other than, we live with a ton of dumb ass people.

    I don’t know what Jodi’s intentions were. Neither do any of you, but I do know what the law is, and I know that she is NOT guilty of the crime that they have charged her with, NOT because she did or did not do it, but because the state has not proven it beyond a reasonable doubt.

    It turns out “common sense” is anything but “common”.

  251. JM, when Is the date of your last sexual experience? I think it’s been too long! Get him some KY

    • Yes, too bad TA isn’t here to bend JM over his desk. EF could join them for TA’s fantasy desire of a 3 some

  252. I think JM is very calm today! From what I know, FOX news is popular in AZ, I would bet that JM saw that tidbit from Happening Now and realized he made a bigger ass of himself than he normally does.

      • OMG: the Kermit Scale of Screeching!!!! lol.
        You got me rolling on the floor with THAT one!

      • It’s the FOX news link that was posted (I think SJ posted it yesterday or day before). If you have not seen it – it is an excellent ‘review’ by two attorneys on JM’s antics and how a lot of this is actually helping the defense.

  253. He keeps saying the same thing over and over and over trying to discredit her as unqualified to determine Jodi Arias is a domestic abuse victim.

    • Exactly but Alyce is very on to his tricks. I do not think it will work on Alyce though yaaaaaaaaa 😉 I love Alyce calm cool an collect. Burns JM up !

  255. Ah, JM’s temper is coming back.

    Remember, a “leopard does not change his spots”!

  258. @michaelbkiefer

    “Kirk Nurmi filed another motion for mistrial based on prosecutorial misconduct this morning. I assume that was the in-chambers topic.”

    “In his motion, Nurmi references Martinez’ attacking witnesses, signing autographs; compares the trial to a circus and the Salem Witch Trials.”

    Salem Witch trials!!! Just what we said here!!!

  259. What does this questioning have to do with anything? The woman has obviously been pretty damn successful doing what she does with the way she does it. I’m tuned out with this line of questioning. He needs his ass kicked.

    • He asked her why she didnt interview that Shatanya Ley girl OR Travis Alexander!! WTF!!!! What was she supposed to do?Call him of the dead??

  260. BTW, the feed may go in and out today.

    We are having a HUGE wind storm here in AZ.

  262. ALV is so good. She is not taking JM’s crap and she is not rattled by his abusive style.

  263. I hope JM looks as petty to the jury as he does to me. His time would be better spent trying to discredit her on a report having to do with this case not her schedule and how she writes her frick’n resume

    • Yes PLEASE PLEASE JURORS see what we see here. All he does is try to discredit experts in their fields. It has nothing to do with the CASE ! only to try an make them think oh this is a paid witness instead of a actual Person that knows what the hell they are talking about they do it for a living for crying out loud.

      We could do this with JM himself. He is a clown an very disrespectful. A showboat Lawyer is what I think an this is why the Travis Supporters are in love with his style.

  269. Who cares Juan!!! She has been a keynote speaker and a regular speaker on the same topic!!!! Move on!!!!

  270. In some ways I wish JMs minions were right, as if his nonsensical jibberish was going to lead somewhere.. BUT IT NEVER FU*KING DOES!!!

  271. OMG, now JM is asking how many pages she looked at? Give me a fucking break!

    And this line of questioning about communication is getting ridiculous!

    • Yes! And if I were on the jury, I’d be thinking is THIS all he’s got? She’s handling it very well I think, but she’ll probably have a headache by the end of the day. We’ll all have headaches. LOL

  272. Martinez to Alyce: “You didn’t talk to Travis Alexander, did you?” Huh?

    His only intention today is to destroy Alyce’s credibility.

    • That is what bothers me most. No he is DEAD. But he left his writings an feelings out there everywhere. I did not talk to him or know him personally but I found out a lot about what type of MAN he was by going to his MY SPACE an reading for myself. Then she had all those texts an emails so I would say yes you get a very good idea of a person by what they say in phone calls recorded emails an texts. So yes you can be dead an still out there just like his videos of his Eddy Snell character which shows even more into his mind set an ego.

      • Yes, and that chauvinistic comment on his MySpace about the “little filly” south of the border. Arrogant, egotistical, self-important stallion-wannabe…augh.

  275. I am amazed by the level of disrespect and arrogance Martinez has for everybody. How can anyone like this idiot?

    • Joe, I just don’t GET it, either!
      That female fan-club he has who are all oohing and aahing about what a stud they think he is, are such a conundrum to me. All I can figure is that these are woman who are somehow ATTRACTED to playing the role of being disrespected, debased, and ill-used.

  276. He is such a dick! I wonder if the Alexander family isn’t rolling their eyes at him half the time…

    • Of course, but always referring to himself in the 3rd person..”Husband is very angry now…!!” :D)

  279. I feel like JM reaches a new low every day with this trial. He has made a total fool of himself and diminished any prior credibility he had within the county. What a tool.

  280. Alyce in Juanderland

    I had to shut the thing off. Juan Martinez is a one-trick pony.

    • I like all the silly uses for Juan’s name, one that I’ve seen used today on Ustream that is gag reflex initiating is “good morning everyjuan”… People are idiots

  282. No matter what you say or do or how you try to cooperate with Martinez you are going to be wrong. How do you work with someone like him who is going to berate you no matter what?

  283. Hey haters! With all the concern about the cost of this trial and how much Alyce gets paid, Is the prosecution throwing money in the garbage with this line if questioning? I wonder how much this last 40 minutes has cost! Things that make you go Hmmm

    • Let’s say everyone makes 250$ an hour. Six people (Judge, Martinez, Nurmi, Willmott, Flores, LaViolette) times 250 is 1500$ per hour he is wasting with his ridiculous lines of questioning.

      I think Alyce said she makes 350$ an hour but I don’t remember for sure. Add even more if the mediator sitting behind the defense makes 250$ an hour too.

      He just keeps racking up the damn bill doesn’t he?

      • I’m ready to send “Mr. Martinez a bill for making me waste my time and brain cells on this insidious line of questioning. The jury is thinking tuna or bologna for lunch. Nurmi is going to fall asleep and go into a coma. Can’t the judge tell him to move on? Come on this is ludicrous!

    • In the Casey Anthony trial. The court reporter typed what was being said at the sidebars so Casey could read what was being said on the monitor at her table. I would think it’s that way in Arizona but nothing about this trial is the way it should be.

    • I wish we all could. Nothing transparent about this case except for JM’s abuse.

  285. if that judge says the evidence can come in and he will take the other part out i will know that something is very wrong with the judge she as one sided thinking and it is in favor of the proc dumn ass JM

  286. You guys are so much smarter than I on the legal stuff…where is going with this non verbal communication stuff?

    • I dont even think this is ‘legal stuff”
      He’s desperately just trying to prove she makes mistakes and that she lies!!

      • That is exactly right. When you’ve got nothing else you try to discredit an expert witness. The good thing about Alyce is she is taking it in stride and calling Martinez out on occasion.

      • No it isn’t, its a load of nonsense.. asking her to know the date when he won’t give her the document, all blasted semantics and bullying because he really has nothing he can ask her.

  287. I have never ever hated a prosecutor the way I hate Martinez. I normally lean toward the prosecutor’s case. I want this guy to fall on his face and die.

  288. Dis you say the sky is BLUE, ma’am, yes or no? I’m not ASKING you on what DAY or TIME you said it, ma’am, am I asking you that, ma’am, yes or no?

    • -The sky is normally blue Mr Martinez but not today.Today it’s cloudy,so I’d say it’s kinda grey or black.
      -So what you are saying is that the sky is NOT blue,don’t you?You’re saying the sky is grey and black RIGHT?

      • “What I’m saying, Mr Martinez, is that the sky is always blue, but when the clouds are in the way the sky may appear grey or black, SO people who have NEVER seen a blue sky may believe that it is actually grey or black. AND if someone TELLS someone else the sky is grey or black, they may believe that person, even if the one telling them that is really lying.”

  289. All he needed to establish is she doesn’t have the ability to interview Travis and the women involved that were named. There is no need for the aggressiveness. She is giving her expert opinion that’s it. No need for all the circus.

  290. LOL OMG that would mean you were 90% wrong. LOL He’s so illogical and stupid!!!

    • Yeah, I LOVED AL’s remark: “That is quite an extrapolation, Mr. Martinez…”
      Indeed, it certainly WAS. The dipshit. Just hope none of the jurors are as delusionally entranced with this bozo as some of Mtz fan club. These supporters of his will be spouting off his 90% assessment that he pulled out of his ass as IF it is some actual mathematical fact, the same way they mis-report all kinds of other bs they hear and them bastardize and pass off as fact…

  291. So I’ve decided that from now on any ‘discussions’ I have with a hater I will drive in one point that the hater-type may understand. JODI HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND HERSELF – wtf do you think gun lobbyists are so intent on keeping guns legal and available for everyone! We all have a RIGHT to defend ourselves and if you are going to promote that right then you better f#&king well stand up for the right to allow a person to explain why they had to defend themselves as well.

    • Yes that is what I state also. Everyone in the USA has the right to protect themselves in what manner I am not too say. No one knows how they will react to a life an death situation until they are in it. No 2 people would react the exact same way. But the Travis Supporters want to remain in this FOG that Jodi went there to commit cold blooded murder because she could not go to Cancun on that business trip with Travis. Which is all BULL CRAP to me. The phone recording says in there she an he both make statements about that. She understands he is with Mimi etc.

      Also I truly believe that Travis was feeling very rejected by the ‘Virgins” for some reason he had been turned down yet again by Mimi. Seriously do you think a man so sexual wanted to go to Cancun with a woman as ‘just friends” or would he want a woman that he could use every night instead? So this sexcapade visit from Jodi I almost bet was her last one also she wanted to move on with Ryan. He had a lot of reasons to actually GO OFF that day the dropping of the camera was just the last trigger to his explosive rage an he lost.

      • Yes, I was thinking along this line too – he was angry about Mimi & took it out on Jodi.

      • I agree. His life was falling apart. Severe money problems and work problems. Approaching 31 and nobody wanted to marry him. Now Jodi tells him she’s going to date another man so it’s OVER because she’s monogamous.

      • rhonda he could not take jodi because he was going to go with chris and sky hughes and they told him not to see her anymore. jodi knew this and again i do not believe she did this killing it was someone with a motive and the money an the hate and the ashole with the guns who know who else is involved if you come out like ashley thompson read did look at were she is now. yea yea jodi said I did it she said that 4 months after ashley’s death and matt macartney changed his mind to come forward to protect her she is safe in jail for now till some one trys to kill her in there dont you see everyone wants her dead

        • TONYA F, That make a lot of sense! I didn’t know Jodi’s “confession” came AFTER Ashley’s death! and Matt McCartney changing his mind…Sounds like they are being threatened. This trial is rearing a lot of ugly heads….It’s frightening

  292. “That’s quite an extrapolation.”

    Most of the best lines of the trial are going to Alyce!

  294. Honestly, I can’t watch any more of JM on cross. His constant mischaracterization of what witnesses say is ridiculous!

    AL is doing a great job in dealing with this asshole.

    If I were her, I would want to jump across the witness stand and throttle him.

    She is a better woman than I am! 🙂

  295. He may be calmer but he still comes across as a smarmy charlatan and a number #1 a$shole. Has he never heard of being respectful even if you don’t agree with the answers because you are losing a case? Guess not.

  296. I would totally say, well….NO, if it were a joke, I’m pretty sure she would’ve ended the sentence with LOL!!! Ha!

  297. While at times it can be difficult to interpret ones infection in written text… I’m pretty sure it is quite cut and dry with Travis bullshit. If he keeps talking about these emails he better bust me out.

  298. I wish he didn’t force her to be snarky back to him. I hope she can stay calm. And just repeat her points as to what she read, conducted her research etc. one liners isn’t going to help her. Let him look like a dick.

    • I think she is answering correctly. For example, “yes I chose not to believe him (TA) with a qualifier.”

      LV came to her opinions based on repeated and consistent behaviors by TA. There were other girlfriends that JA referred to as stalkers too. It was his MO so that he could carry on with more than one woman.

  299. OK, stupid question here.

    WHY didn’t the defense have these other women testify about the conversations / texts / IMs they had with Travis??

    • Tracking these women down may have been very difficult. Additionally, maybe they didn’t want to testify, sensitive nature of everything that was going on, and if they are at certain places in their lives, maybe they didn’t want to disrupt it.

      • Well, they have the names of these women from the texts. So, they couldn’t have been that hard to track down.

        Also, they could call them and treat them as hostile witnesses.

        • Honestly, the fact that the prosecution did not call them says just as much.

          The defense was probably trying to respect these women’s privacy. They have been through enough. And look how Alyce and Dr. Samuels are being treated.

      • Not to mention they would not be very reliable witnesses.

        Same with the roommates.

    • More so – it seems that since JM is bringing up details of what each person ‘said’ in their email/text – then the email/ text should be admitted in its entirety. Right? Right? Am I right??? ( lol )

        • Oh – I thought they were not due to having to have one of the people who wrote the text must be present if presented as evidence. So does the jury get to read all the emails to get their own true perspective?

        • They aren’t allowing LV or JM to go into the written word of the emails based on a previous order. From what I can gather.

          Anybody else?

  302. I think with her body language she’s constantly telling him, “you’re fighting with yourself, dude.” She has a right to her opinion. She’s an expert in DV and he’s not “indicating” her opinion could be wrong. He’s trying to twist her words and perspective as to change her mind. Ridiculous!

    • I’m home ill today…my brain was already woozy..now it’s down right moosh… I wrote infection instead of inflection…I would do terribly on the stand with this asshole

    • She does that a lot.It’s like a desperate look of ”oh my god ,you warned me of his stupid antics but I guess seeing is believing”

    • I get the impression she was waiting to see if there would be an objection by defense.

  306. I have a doctors appointment here in 45 min. I hope my BP isn’t up and have to explain I was watching Martinez.

    • ha ha Annie. Hope your appointment goes well. Wish I could help you get your gravatar pic up, but i am no techie expert, either. Was just lucky and so relieved when it worked for me. Maybe try a different browser than whatever you are using, is all that I can think of. I use Google Chrome for browser and created a new gmail address specifically for use with gravatar and this site and it worked for me first time. Keep trying, good luck, see you later.

      • I use Google Chrome. I don’t know what I am doing wrong and I am usually pretty good at figuring out this kind of thing

    • Yeah, he was sure afraid, so afraid he kept emailing and texting her and having phone sex with her.

      • He was so terrified with her he asked her to visit him in Mesa, so terrified he had sex with her twice, one of those times bordering on rape.

        Yeah, she was sure terrifying.

    • Poor Travis, Asking protection from an anorexic woman against this monstrous Snow White! (along with naked pics.)

  313. Yeah, Travis was SO fearful of Jodi that he had kinky sex with her on June 4th. And why is Kermit tying this to Regan’s anorexia? He is just awful.

      • LV talking about that was one of the things that made her vulnerable to TA’s consistent MO of the women he went after. A recovering anorexic.

    • And he seemed sooooo scared of JA that he spent 6 hours sending the 16 page IM insults to her.

      He was sooooo scared he sneaked her into his house in the middle of the night on 6/4/08- and according to the Fl*res report he never told the roommates in the morning when they claimed they *spoke* w him, he was sooooo scared of the stalker he was hiding up in his bedroom.

      GMAFB!

  315. The jury does the same thing Martinez. They choose what to believe and what not to believe.

  316. JM is a self made ignoramus, who in cross examination clearly has but one thought rattling round his brain pan:
    HOW to force the mountain of diverse facts presented by the defense, which has obviously overwhelmed him, onto the rigid narrow legal structure of the charges … truth, or adherence to facts, be damned

    TO that end during his cross examination of jodi, richard samuels, and alyce laviolette he doggedly pursued his crusade of injustice to contort, and twist, every part of their testimony which didn’t conform with his legal framework, and rigid mindset.

    BUT when the testimony of the defense witnesses didn’t in fact conform to such, he flew into extreme rages, yelled at them, badgered them, mocked them, cut off their answers, mischaracterized their answers, bullied them, flailed his arms about, and on and on, all with the frenzied histrionic energy of a self righteous zealot. Such extremes of courtroom misbehavior judge stephens allowed

    JM outside his narrow legal field, has the intellectual blinders of an ignorant self-righteous zealot

    THE defense testimony from the experts was, and is, clearly well beyond his mental grasp.
    THEIR testimony finds no resonnance, or associations in the corridors of his mind.

    HIS attempted twisting, and distortions of their scientific testimony to fit that onto the formal charges reminded me of the classical greek procrustes, and the procrustean bed

    http://www.mythweb.com/encyc/entries/procrustes.html

    Procrustes (proh-KRUS-teez)
    A host who adjusted his guests to their bed. Procrustes, whose name means “he who stretches”, was arguably the most interesting of Theseus’s challenges on the way to becoming a hero. He kept a house by the side of the road where he offered hospitality to passing strangers, who were invited in for a pleasant meal and a night’s rest in his very special bed. Procrustes described it as having the unique property that its length exactly matched whomsoever lay down upon it. What Procrustes didn’t volunteer was the method by which this “one-size-fits-all” was achieved, namely as soon as the guest
    lay down Procrustes went to work upon him, stretching him on the rack if he was too short for the bed and chopping off his legs if he was too long. Theseus turned the tables on Procrustes, fatally adjusting him to fit his own bed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procrustes

    A Procrustean solution is the undesirable practice of tailoring data to fit its container or some other preconceived structure.

  317. JM is such an ass! He is really getting to me today.

    Please pray that the jury is NOT stupid enough to believe that Jodi stalked Travis. It’s VERY obvious that she wasn’t.

    AND, why would Reagan ADMIT she was anorexic? People don’t share that kind of stuff and lie about it.

  318. this recross is so pathetic….my god so scary this man is a hired prosecutor for the state. Is it any wonder now that someone in the public is lashing out. Now I’m not saying that the recent murders of prosecutors is justified, I’m just saying that with this trial as an example, is it any wonder that these people are being targeted, if they at all practiced law like JM. So scary that our justice system has stooped to this level of theatrics and outright incompetence.

  321. AL should say, “If you want to QUESTION me WITHOUT notes, then I will ANSWER you WITHOUT notes!”

  323. It’s like Vladimir Gagic said: “Throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what will stick.”

  325. JM is still, almost continously, improperly interrupting AL’s answers

    http://www.karenkoehlerblog.com/2011/01/tips-for-attorneys-quick-list-of-objections/

    Here is a quick reference list of objections for your trial notebook.

    Counsel conduct

    Coaching the witness – State ex rel. Means v. King, 205 W.Va. 708, 520 S.E.2d 875 (1999).

    Cutting off witness answers – State v. Fukusaku, 85 Hawai’i 462, 946 P.2d 32 (1997).

    Gestures or signals to witness or jury – Greenberg v. United States, 280 F.2d 472 (1st Cir. 1960).

    Harassing the witness – Alford v. United States, 282 U.S. 687, 51 S.Ct. 218, (1931).

  326. What does any of this crap have to do with whether Jodi premeditated a murder???

    • It doesn’t. It’s a smokescreen by trying to discredit a witness as being a quack.

  327. and now he says she’s not answering his questions, in the middle of her answer. Isn’t there any way the defense can object to him doing this, and if so, why aren’t they

  328. My, my! While ALV is reading what HE has handed her to “refresh her recollection” JM’s impatience is apparent…tapping his toot, rolling his eyes, …RUDE and INAPPROPRIATE!!!

      • ewww, Dorothy, annoying enough to have to watch him tapping his foot; it would be absolutely disgusting to have to watch him tapping his TOOT!!! lol. That kind of depravity is for his fan club on the haters sites! lol.

        • i vote this post the best laugh of the day – sooooo funny and sooooo true!!!

          *ewww, Dorothy, annoying enough to have to watch him tapping his foot; it would be absolutely disgusting to have to watch him tapping his TOOT!!! lol. That kind of depravity is for his fan club on the haters sites! lol.*

  331. Why do they need over an hour for lunch is the question of the day? What’s wrong with the standard hour???

  333. during one of the side bars i head bitch i dont know who said it but i did here it could have been JM

    • I would think it had to have been, you have louder sound than I do. I get better sound on youtube the next day so I will check it out tomorrow.

  335. Mr. Martinez, there is plenty of evidence from Mr. Alexander words and actions elsewhere to be convinced that he was not stalked by Jodi.

  336. OK, please PRAY that the jury can see through JM’s nonsense! He is such a freaking idiot!!

  337. I told my husband that this was not thr first asshole she has come across in her career and I’m sure she can handle him. She comes across as someone trying to reason with a certifiably insane individual. I also told my husband that if the jury convicts Jodi Arias, it will be in SPITE of Juan Martinez, not BECAUSE of him.

    • If they actually convict her of murder one, it will be because they have been watching the media.

      This is one of the weakest capital murder cases I have come across.

    • But in the event that she is convicted (which I doubt) JM’s fans have probably already built a platform (don’t know the name) to carry him around so they all can bow down and worship him. CRIKEY!

      • eww creepy ! that made me think of their Mobile Temples if they do not have one built they have one that is moved around an it did look like one of those things from Ancient times that you carry the King on.

      • No… when WE win, we’ll build a special contraption to carry him around in, made completely of bullshit.

        SJ
        Team Jodi

  338. AL should say no, she didn’t choose to believe that Travis was afraid that Jodi was stalking him. She chose not to believe that because after reviewing all his e-mails, texts, journals, and writings of friends, she found that this was just one of many lies that Travis told to cover his dual life.

    • She should say, “I didn’t choose to believe it. It was the only LOGICAL CONCLUSION!!!!”

      • Oh snap – good one, Kmiller! That WOULD be a good answer! (And JM’s reply – Did I ASK you for your conclusion???!) lol

      • Exactly!
        She’s doing a pretty good job handling him, considering.
        I don’t think I would be able to contain myself being questioned by that little turd.
        I am afraid my hatred would be as palpable as Chris Hughes seemed toward Nurmi when he was being questioned and sitting up there glaring and sweating bullets.

    • My hope is the defense will bring this up in redirect…. JM is asking ALV yes or no questions. The defense will give her an opportunity to clarify this “out of context” questioning.

    • She did. LV said it was based on the 1000s of documents and the consistent way TA worked women.

  339. I know it’s manic Monday, but I’m overwhelmed with today so far. Anyone feel the same? Anyone anyone?

  340. http://www.paynemitchell.com/objectfiles/PMLG.Web.Data.Publication/6/Cross%20Examination.pdf

    at page 9

    Techniques That Don’t Work

    “Just Answer Yes or No”

    Television, movies, and, unfortunately, some trial skill programs in law school have encouraged trial lawyers to fall back on the command “just answer my question yes or no” as a method of controlling the runaway witness. This is not avalid controlling technique. First, most judges will not permit the lawyer to do that. Most judges will inform the witness that they may explain their answer, at length if necessary.

    Second, and more importantly, this signals the jury that the cross-examiner is not playing fair. The lack of choice given the witness suggests to the jury that the lawyer is trying to “trick” the witness. Non-lawyers resent this heavy-handed attempt to strait jacket the witness. To them it appears that the lawyer is attempting to “put word s in the witness’s mouth.” A lawyer resorting to this method lowers both credibility and control.

    Credibility is the paramount feature of the successful trial lawyer. When the trial lawyer loses his or her credibility, the case is lost. Credibility is severely damaged when you utter the words “just answer my question yes or no.” There are no two schools of thought on this issue:
    Don’t do it.

    • Yes Wes, and Alyce is not a runaway witness anyway.

      And through this whole trial, haters have questioned everyone’s credibility except Martinez’s.

      This kind of behavior lends him none, yet they still believe this is normal prosecutorial conduct. No!

      • yes/no questions would be stomped on immediately by a competent judge

        instead judge stephens practice is to ignore this flawed question, and force a yes/no choice of answer on the witness

        the unethical prosecutor JM is thereby continuously allowed by judge stephens to produce misleading and highly prejudicial testimony, against/prejudicial to jodi

        judge stephens is conducting an unfair trial against jodi

        presumably, first capital case judge stephens, proceeds on the flawed assumption that no damage is done, since the defense team can return later to correct such misleading anwers/testimony

        no so !!!
        the bell has rung
        false/flawed/misleading testimony has been allowed in

      • Excellent point!
        WHY is that?
        Is it just because they regard him as an authority figure because he is “the prosecutor,” and they simply “trust” him to be honest? Strange and scary times we live in with sheeple believing this guy is a legitimate shepherd. Can’t they SEE that if any of them had to act in self-defense, that they themselves would be at the mercy of this same dishonest prosecutor? Duh.
        I want the guy to be disbarred. There is a need for prosecutors, but NOT for dishonest, bullying prosecutors. We the people demand justice, NOT miscarriage of justice!

  341. JM: “Isn’t it true, Maam, that the prosecutor is a dick?”

    ALV: “yes, it is true”

    JM: “Did I ASK you if it’s true????”

    I swear, I am watching some kind of freak show.

  342. Have I missed something? Where is this “biggie” that Kermit was supposed to have ALV today. So far it’s like he’s throwing rocks at a tank. No damage being done. But all seriousness aside, there’s really nothing “big” about Juan, is there?

  344. OMG FINALLY ! people that are truly STALKED do NOT stay in constant touch with a STALKER haha take that you non believers. That is what I hear the most but she STALKED him bla bla bla…….BULL CRAP hearsay lies spread by the Saint to make them believe he did not LIKE Jodi anymore. His dirty little secret. How can I even like him ? dead or not I do not like people like that period !

  345. Stalking Travis? OMG he lied about everything in his life. Unfortunately, Travis was a con artist! That’s been proven as fact. I don’t know how people think its okay for him to lie to women. He lied to women and he wasn’t a virginal Mormon man. He lied telling women he was seeing that he was a virgin, he didn’t cheat on them, and he didn’t have al the money he pretended. He was a farce.

    • All that crap, plus Jodi being this “evil stalker,” got spewed for public consumption via “48 Hours,” and it just wasn’t believable.

      You had his family members like Samantha get on there and say that she just “knew” Jodi was responsible for Travis’s death even though she had never met Jodi. You had people like Taylor Searle get up there and just know “instantly” for the police to check on Jodi because, after all, she was a “stalker,” though that was Travis’s bullshit doing the talking, not fact.

      Maureen Maher and her producers were very, very lazy reporting this case and even irresponsible. They did a lot of damage because it affected public opinion.

      • Yes and he said those things to people because people didn’t like Jodi. He also wanted to give the appearance of a ladies man.

        • Exactly Flnjang! I think Jodi said Travis referred to another woman as “crazy” and or stalker! Claiming to have a “stalker” was a big ego boosts to him! If you have read his “bio” on his myspace page that says it all! I read it to my husband and he was disgusted!

          • It was also an explanation if people saw Jodi and other women coming and going to his house at night. What a creep he was!

        • Yes indeed. I think that’s who ‘ladies men’ are too.
          It’s amazing how similar Casanova was (from his written memoirs.) He was more intelligent and literate than Travis, but in reading Casanova’s memoirs from his point of view it is obvious that he was a serial abuser and rapist. He kept one of his teen victims as a servant after he seduced her into letting him into her bedroom, raped her then proceeded to destroy her. According to him, she ‘adored him,’ would do any sexual service for him, was a ‘whore’ while he was working on other conquests, but was a pain in the butt sometimes even though he was ‘nice’ to her, kept her from the gutter and felt sorry for her, etc.
          Nice guy. Admired for centuries for his prowess with the ladies.

      • Yeah, his siblings were all estranged from Travis, but instantly “knew” Jodi was the one responsible for everything.

  346. I love the way Martinez is demonstrating for us (and the jury) exactly how an abusive man behaves.

  347. YES! Alyce, I don’t believe jodi stalked him. I have posted that before. Travis was NOT stalked he made it up to make himself look a certain way. I was stalked for a couple years. When someone is stalking you, you are scared to death, you don’t have sex phone calls, you don’t text, you don’t talk and you certainly don’t open the door and let them in!

  348. 4/7/2013

    MOT – Motion – Party (001)

    4/8/2013

    NOTE: MOTION TO PRECLUDE; ANY AND ALL EVIDENCE RELATED ANY WEIGHT ASSESSMENTS OR TESTING ON SHELVING AT PLACE OF DEATH

  349. What would be great is for Alyce to say. No Mr. Martinez I did not actually speak to Travis have you? all Mr. Martinez has is hearsay from Travis’s friends an PPL/LEGAL SHIELD co workers an family that had not really stayed in touch or even met Jodi. Give me a break. An ex ‘Virgins” that are not going to say too much to stain their white gowns in front of the Temple.

  350. Don Juan is suck a PRICK!! He stands there with HIS notes and wants to try and discredit AL for not being able to remember exact dates out of THOUSANDS of conversations. I’m glad she called him out, ” you have it, you have that information, and if you would just give it to me……” Then Obviously after a side bar, JM was forced to give her some reference. He knows his ONLY hope is to play dirty. The jury will see this.

  351. And, just so we are all clear..stalking is not the same as abuse.

    I can see how the haters are confused though since they clearly have reading skills but lack in the comprehension department.

    A person gerenally avoids a true stalker, a person being abused cannot/does not necessarily avoid the abuser. Two different things her.

    “stalker” does not equal “abuser”

    • And it seems that TA called his ex-girlfriends “stalkers” so if a new girlfriend saw him with oneof these other women, he would have an excuse ready to go.

        • Its a great way to ensure the 2 women never speak or compare notes.

          If he’s telling new girl the old girl is a nutter, stay away from her cuz she might harm you, new girl is flattered he cares about her safety and steers clear from old girl.

          Even if new girl confronts the old girlfriend or old girl tries to warn new girl about what a creep the guy is, the new girlfriend will usually believe the guy.

          Plus abusers commonly tell the new girl “old girl is a LIAR, so don’t believe anything you hear that she says about me. It will be all lies cuz she’s psycho and lied to me all the time.”

    • Yes I agree that is just one part they have to get it out of the way though as all believing that stalking story is out there an they continue on with it when expressing why they feel Jodi is so guilty of cold blooded murder not self defense.

      Then the abuse should come out why she believes it how she believes it. That it is not all out of Jodi’s mouth but from Travis words he left behind is evidence she read.

  352. Attention to ALL people who wanna bitch, whine, moan, groan, and complain about this trial: Blame it on this ridiculous fucking judge! Where else do they start at 9:30am (Yeah, like they ever start ON TIME), take a morning recess, get 1.5-hr lunch break, take an afternoon break, and finish by 4:30pm?!? OH, and only “work” 4 days a week? No damn wonder it’s taken 3 months! At this rate, maybe we’ll finish by Christmas… But I wouldn’t bet on it!

    Only I would get pissed the fuck off because I was gone for almost 2 hours, didn’t hardly miss a damn thing, and NOW they’re at lunch for another freakin’ hour-and-a-half! My head’s gonna explode!

  353. Beth K on HLN just said JM “discredited” ALV…..are we watching the same trial here? Can’t stand watching HLN..hope trial will start soon so I can watch live stream..

    • It’s a shame that Beth K. has fallen to these lows. She was the only one I had hope for. I thought SHE would want to protect her reputation….Oh well….the love of money.

      • I quit liking her at the beginning of this trial when she kept agreeing with NG…

      • ME too I liked her an that Jane C when I watched a long time ago but I guess they have to go with the majority they sure do not seem like the same people I did watch at one time it is very strange.

  357. How likely is it do you think that once this trial is over with the emails, Text messages IM ‘s and diary’s will become available in their entirety? I’d like to read them..all of them.

    It is almost as if Juan is Minot even speaking a human language to me… I cannot follow him for shit.

  359. If SHE, SHE??? doesn’t understand that’s the problem??

    No, YOU are the problem you effing asshole! You’re ABUSIVE.

  360. ALV said, “This, from me, is the TRUTH of it”.
    JM is trying SO hard to debase her experience, her education, her professional title. SHAME on him!

  362. THIS JUDGE SAILS WITH THE WIND! ”Sustained”. then he asks the same question and what does she do? She overrules!

    Biased effing Judge!

  363. Martinez has truly surpassed himself this time. I’m exhausted listening to his round in circles bullshit.

  364. ????????
    when there is in an objection and the attorney’s are speaking with the Judge during a sidebar is the court reporter typing what they are saying????

      • thats what I thought but ive notcied everytime he is still typing.
        wish we knew what was being said.

        • Reporting of Trial Proceedings
          With the exception of testimony presented by audio or video recording
          unless you are told otherwise you must report everything that
          happens from the beginning of the trial
          until the end. Look to the judge for
          guidance; only the judge can tell you whether to go off the record.

          If you are unsure, ask. It is better to report
          something that does not need to be
          reported than to fail to report
          something that is necessary.

  365. So I’m sitting here wondering why Alyce’s lecture on Snow White matters so much. I mean, who cares who is key note and who is not, none of her testimony involved that anyway.

        • But she didn’t make a mistake. She was part of the keynote breakout and those should be listed under “keynote addresses” on a CV. No mistake. Just Martinez trying to twist things to make her look bad. I love it that she said you’re implying that I misrepresent my work, and I don’t.

  368. He confuses her, tires her out and then twists things trying to make her look stupid. What he is doing is a Form of TORTURE.

  370. That’s right, Alyce, it’s not about compartmentalizing and sanitizing every incident as if they are completely isolated. It is about patterns and context.

  371. On at least one occasion I have had a random stranger (to me) come up and confirm my identity.. To later find out that this information was used to relay to someone else whom I was, because they were apparently dating my boyfriend at the same time… I was also quite young.. Stupid immature girls do that type of thing. So IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME.. If that happens to Jodi , just like she turned around and went to confront Bianca . Especially if you have a gaggle of young girls ( what was Lisa, 19?) who are likely more immature that maybe a more streetwise bunch.

  372. I think that if Snow White was allowed to testify, Martinez will bully her. He will ask her: “Mam I’m not asking you if you ate the apple, did I?

  375. RELIEF!!!

    ITS FINISHED.. WTF! Well I hope he’s competely fuddled the jurors heads because he’s certainly done mine in.

  376. Like tonysam said, Travis was so “fearful” of Jodi that he kept calling, texting, having sex, and making plans with her.

    There is zero evidence to suggest stalking at all. The fact that Travis rages against Jodi via text shows he is emboldened enough to express his abusive shit.

    • Well he is flirting with someone else. Is it odd for someone to cut down their prior GF?: I think not. Then his actions speak louder than his words (lies).

    • And the thing is that what Martinez is trying to imply is that ALV reached a conclusion based solely on Jodi’s word when what he does is the exact same thing:he takes TA’s words (and mind you,these are text messages to NOTHER girl,of course he would talk her down)to assume Jodi was a stalker.Can’t the Prosecutor(sarcasm)see the contradiction here???

      • YES!

        Why is it NO ONE (well, beside us) sees the words were written by TA himself??? He was the author of those words. No one forced him to write them. It didn’t seem he was writing fiction to her, for her to edit or correct for grammar.

        If there were pages and pages and pages of TA expressing KINDNESS or FEAR of JA I suspect ALV would have come away with a different perspective of his written word.

        It’s not that difficult to comprende!!

    • So this text message or IM conversation happened on or about May 17, 2008 when TA says he is sooooo afraid of Jodi’s stalking, yet he had explicit phone sex with Jodi only 7 days prior on May 10, 2008 and made plans to see her after Cancun. Right, that’s what normal people do with a “stalker” they are extremely fearful of.

      • Puh-leez!!!
        He should be embarrassed to even mentioning that,it’s common sense yet he seems desperate enough to grasp at straws!

      • Yeah, and remember how mumbly and garbled his voice sounded?
        He was NOT frightened! He was so AT EASE and comfortable he wasn’t even self-conscious enough to CARE how blatheringly dopey he sounded to her. He felt SAFE. A frightened person would sound alert and/or agitated, not half-asleep.

        • I have a hard time visualizing ANY MALE being frightened by a 110 lb woman one the phone!

          If he was not in to her anymore I could see him taking advantage of some free phone sex, getting off, then getting off the phone asap. Most young guys would not spend hours on a call with a chick they’re done with.

          They have more important things to do … like eating pizza…

          • That’s kinda backwards isn’t it? The stalker moving 1,000 miles away from the person they are stalking?

  379. So I am new to the site (for comment purposes), but I have been reading others’ comments and catching up on the trial. Great site – BTW! I am actually pre-law and had toyed with the idea of pursuing being a prosecutor after law school. That being said, JM’s behavior makes me embarrassed for the profession as a whole. When I first started watching the trial, I was turned off by his rudeness – even with his OWN witnesses. Now that we have spiraled into this ludicrous Snow White crap, I find it appalling that the judge is letting this showboating drag on. I can only imagine that at least one of the jurors is being completely turned off to JM’s demeanor and nitpicking of the minutia. If the damn case is so strong against Jodi, then why in God’s creation is he asking these stupid, stupid questions?? If one has any intellect at all, then it is clear that he is trying to obfuscate the actual facts of the case in an effort to confuse everyone (witnesses, the jury, hell – the judge) using very circular reasoning. I have not watched today’s footage yet, but Alyce Laviolette was awesome on the part of cross that I saw last week. I almost think that JM identifies with TA’s abusive behavior, because even from a layperson’s perspective, JM exhibits many abusive tendencies – in a public setting – in a public trial. Can you imagine his behavior in private?? I also see narcissistic tendencies in referring to himself as “the prosecutor” all the time… WTH. Even if Jodi was guilty of 1st degree murder (which I do NOT believe) JM would lose this case with his demeanor. I am just waiting for AL to come back and say to him, “You do realize you’re a pathetic douchebag with small man syndrome, RIGHT??” … Grrrr

    • I agree with you completely! I was going to say the same thing but you put it so well, you took the words right out of my mouth! WELL SAID! WELL DONE!

    • Welcome an great post. I so agree with you on all of it. I have not seen that A HA ! moment they think is coming I think it would have already been dropped by now. I pray the Jury see’s through the showboat routine also.

    • Not to mention all the most notable brilliant minds that have suffered from mental illness/ depression/low self esteem.

  381. I literally can not even listen to one more word that comes out of JM mouth!!!!I can not even imagine how the jury is just sitting there while he goes on and on and on and on and ………and on and on and on…….about NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!! Oh My God Help Us All Through this!!!!!!!

  382. It was Kathy Monkman from Dr.Drew that witnessed it. She said Alyce the day when juror# 5 was in court. That Alyce had asked for a break, that Alyce walked right up to Samantha and said something and Samantha told Juan and that Juan was going to work on it.

    • What is the media doing getting so involved directly as well as indirectly in this trial! They have people at the courthouse taking pictures, mingling with the family and church community members inside and outside the building, etc. acknowledging their rock star-JM, and literally watching the defense in the courtroom to find anything they can that is negative, even creating rumors, for entertainment purposes and to boost their ratings. Risks of aggressive members of the media snapping an “accidental” picture of jury members, or JM and others playing to the camera and fans are only increased when the media’s goals are to entertain-rather than really inform-in order not to provide a needed public service, but instead, for entertainment purposes and sensationalism to boost ratings and profits.

      The media is only complicating matters when it has already concluded that an accused person is guilty and premeditation was involved-from the very start of the trial. Everything that has been done since is manipulated to fit that conclusion.

      If the role of the media is entertainment and profit, rather than to inform objectively relative to the public’s right to know, then the exploitation of the accused as well as private citizens taking the stand during nationally televised trials should be stopped. The media is largely responsible for the tremendous negative build-up of hatred and revenge we are seeing everywhere.

  383. I love that Laviolette stuck to her guns, kept her cool and made Bully Martinez look like the miserable troll that he is. The irony is so obvious. She represents abused women and here is martinez bullying the abuse expert! He has fallen right into her trap. The calmer she stays and the more wound up and furious he gets the better for Jodi. It puts it in the minds of the Jurors, Here is a perfect example of what Jodi must have gone thru with travis. TEAM JODI ALL THE WAY!

  384. Is there a sight we can start to support Laviolette for all the good work she is doing for Jodi ? If there isn’t one already, we need to find a way to let her know that she stands not only for Jodi, but for all of us! mabey this sight could have a section for us to leave a message for Laviolette.

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