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Jodi Arias Trial – Day 42 (afternoon session)

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Leave your comments below on the afternoon session of trial day 42, as Alyce LaViolette continues her cross with the amazingly inept Martinez and his accompanying 7 shades of BS…

SJ
Team Jodi

 

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  2. HA! I’m absolutely giddy!! I’ve been dreaming of this day for weeks now! 😀

    • You got that right……….where is this fool going! what does all this garbage have to do with PREMEDITATION, the guy is grasping!!!!

  5. Filing Date

    Description

    Docket Date

    Filing Party

    4/7/2013

    MOT – Motion – Party (001)

    4/8/2013

    NOTE: MOTION TO PRECLUDE; ANY AND ALL EVIDENCE RELATED ANY WEIGHT ASSESSMENTS OR TESTING ON SHELVING AT PLACE OF DEATH

      • I believe party (1) is Juan… Party (2) is the defendant and party (3) Mitigation Specialist

        • So it’s Juan that doesn’t want it. Given how expensive Travis’s tastes were, I suspect those shelves were plenty strong enough to support somebody as small as Jodi.

            • Normally, it says “Defense filed motion…” or “State files motion…”

              This one doesn’t say either way.

              • As far as I know, the motion was filed by the prosecution.

                They must have seen the HLN reconstruction & demonstration, lol.

                SJ
                Team Jodi

                • The demo I saw proved it was easy peasy for some* big man* to do the shelf step up, reach and grab technique.

                  It took maybe 3 seconds and the shelves were left completely undisturbed.

                • Yes, you are right SJ, I just saw that.

                  State Of Arizona – (1)
                  Plaintiff N/A Martinez, Juan
                  Jodi Ann Arias – (2)
                  Defendant F Nurmi, Kirk Stephens CR2008-031021-001
                  SUE STODOLA – (3)
                  Mitigation Specialist N/A To Be Determined

                • For the most part they all say party (001)

                  for example

                  3/8/2013 LOW – List Of Witnesses/Exhibit/Evidence – Party (001) 3/8/2013
                  NOTE: STATES FOURTEENTH SUPPLEMENTAL

                  Here Party(001) is the State

                  and here

                  3/31/2013 MOT – Motion – Party (001) 4/1/2013
                  NOTE: MOTION FOR MISTRIAL: JUROR MISCONDUCT

                  Party 001 is the defense

                  and here

                  3/4/2013 LET – Letter – Party (001) 3/7/2013
                  NOTE: RE:VOICEMAIL RECORDING ON JUDFE STEPHENS DIVISIONS PH

                  The party is the Judge

                  Go figure

          • They must have watched that episode on After Dark on HLN that huge guy stepped on a shelf an reached for a gun an nothing happened. They reconstructed the crime scene. Vinnie an Mike looked like a couple of dumb arses when the shelf did not fall haha. I did watch that night to see Jose Baez only !

            • The Judge should let it in. After all, it was DON JUAN who insisted that the shelves would not hold up if Jodi were to step-up on them. Call his bluff!!

            • Rhonda! Thats where I saw it. I watched it online only to see J Baez too.

              And yes those 2 yea hoos look like a couple of morons ALL THE TIME! Hoe do they stay employed????

            • I saw that one too Rhonda.
              Baez and the other guy were the only ones that didn’t look like fools.
              The rest looked like ass clowns that they are.

              Baez showed them how it could have been self defense, proven by that blood, I think in the closet.
              When the man said that those shelves were strong and could hold Jodi especially since shes so small very easily. The clowns probably wished that they would have not shown such a stupid demonstration. : )

  6. Correct me if I’m wrong but on Thursday wasn’t JM shoving the snow white speech down AL’s throat making her OWN it and today he is saying she wasn’t the keynote speaker at said speech?

    • That is the impression I got – I really have a difficult time following JM, though.

    • That’s what I remember! I think he may have even said,”keynote speaker.”

      • That was so funny. She should have told him, she doesn’t need to misrepresent what part she played at that event, after all she is the FOUNDER of the organization!!!

    • Yes, I don’t understand this. Why does the lecture bother him so much? Does he have such a weak sense of self that his emotional stability is threatened by any criticism of the status quo? Why the need to grill Alyce over something as small and simple as a possibly misworded typo? I noticed he didn’t ask her if she had a secretary and how well qualified that secretary is. Just saying!

  7. I think he was trying to get across that SHE “mis-characterized” her “importance” at the presentation…she said she was a “keynote speaker” (according to JM) and that’s NOT what is written by her name…and to JM I say “SO????” She WAS a speaker at the presentation – Little Caesar is so f***ing obsessed with titles!!

    It could have said ALV was Academy Award Winner Meryl Streep – would that make it so because it was written?????? GMAFB. Asshole is as asshole does….

    • Yes, and have you seen the huge long list on her CV? He doesn’t allow for mistakes or typos on what amounts to be a TWENTY PAGE resume of the most seasoned domestic violence expert in the nation.

      I mean, wow really?? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

      • JC,

        I hear ya….. He thinks he’s the shit because he’s won over 300 cases and only lost 2 or 3.

        Give me a break Juan……

        • That is so hard to believe unless many were plea deals which were counted as ‘wins’ ?

          • Plea bargains are counted as “wins” by prosecutors. Why else do you think they make so many of them?

          • It would actually still be counted in his win column for convictions, as a plea agreement is STILL a conviction. He could have put this case in that column a while ago, though. But no, he wants blood!

  9. You know come to think of it – JM indicated on his bar association form, his driver’s license, his Hair Club for Men membership – that he is male…yet there is NO PROOF whatsoever that would make that so….

  10. He must live one hell of a lonely life……….. trying to dig up shit that doesn’t even matter.

    Keynote speakr or speaker…. JUAN she was a speaker… MOVE ON idiot. It’s only Monday and he’s already got under my skin today.

    • Yes he had a long weekend to DIG UP THAT? wow means he can’t find much too discredit her with an try an stumble her up on. It is all for SHOW. Like he did with Dr. Samuels trying to make them look unorganized an not credit worthy in front of the Jurors. Makes me SICK ! that is all he has? Really?

      I don’t care what he brings up if you know a sneaky snake you really watch an look into what they
      are saying so hopefully we have some Jurors that know a SNEAKY SNAKE when they see one
      an when they hear the SSSssssssssss coming out of the forked tongue.

      • It’s like with Dr Samuels – he brings up a complete NONISSUE on technicality and pretends it’s a huge deal.

        So if he can’t win the case on his own merit, he’d rather try to win with manipulation.

        This makes me wonder if there’s any team of lawyers out there willing to crack open all his “wins” and give them another look.

      • Emely- No, I think that his wife don’t let him speak at home and that’s why he has to relief his frustrationin the court room.

  11. Stalking is a pattern of willful,malicious and repeated harassment that would cause a reasonable person fear. For someone to be stalked, there must be a repeated pattern of stalking behavior. Stalking is emotional terrorism. Most people that have been stalked need treatment for psychological abuse. Alot of those who are victims of stalking have close links to intimate abuse.physical,sexual and emotional abuse. Stalking and domestic violence are closely related. Stalking victims live in constant and consistent fear.

    • Yes, and remember in testimony when JA was taking some chicken to one of TA’s roommates, she walked in and TA was with Lisa, JA then ran out and got in her car. TA ran after her. If JA really was a stalker like he told Lisa, why would he run after her? Both JA and Lisa testified to this happening. If what TA said was true about JA, he wouldn’t have run after her.

          • And remember he was SO afraid of Jodi???
            SURE!!!
            That’s like if a pit bull was coming at me and then the pit bull decided to run the other way, I WOULD run after it???? What dumbasses!!

            If Travis was afraid of her, WHY did he even invite her back?
            I’m so damn tired of hearing Travis was afraid of Jodi.
            What total bs.

            • Travis was afraid… that is why he asked her to come over, he was so scared when she got there he went down on her, and took noodie pics, he was so scared of her, left his door unlocked all the time so she could walk in.

  13. you know this little bastard spent days upon days making accusations at Jodi because she didn’t write about any “abuse” by dickhead…and because of that the bastard says “it didn’t happen” – – then out of the other side of his mouth he says because dickhead “discussed” Jodi being a stalker with this chic in the writing ALV reviewed it is gospel according to TA – because Saint TA said Jodi was a stalker in a text message – it is so.

    OK so – the little bastard is trying to get across what was written in a text message/email by dickhead was gospel – BUT ONLY WHEN IT IS NEGATIVE ABOUT JODI NOT when dickhead goes apeshit at her, etc. but what Jodi wrote in her journals was bullshit? If he is going to argue “if it is written so let it be done” adage, he needs to REREAD the journals because Jodi doesn’t come right out and say what we all know to be the truth but she does hint at it. And to follow the logic he is attempting to get across about ALV – he contradicting his earlier cross with Jodi/ALV, etc. GMAFB…Ummmm….there seems to be a problem with your memory Mr. Prosecutor…

    • He wants people to believe what’s convenient to him. Alice’s testimony despite it being valuable importance has been for the defense to “sneak” in Travis texts, emails and journals. The jury cam listen to Travis’s abuse. I think that was their intent. Her opinion isn’t going to change. He’s an idiot.

    • Exactly how I hear/see it also. A snake with a fork tongue talks out both sides. Totally disgusts me. But naive people can’t hear a snake I am afraid an those that are so into the cold blooded murderer aspect can’t hear it either.

      Only open minded /think out of the box people can truly hear/see a fork tongued snake.

    • Right, exactly. I think maria said something similar – how can he say nobody should take Jodi’s word for being a victim, but can turn around and take Travis’ word for everything? It doesn’t seem to matter that the man was a disgusting liar and abuser, but somehow his word is always good as gold.

      • Yes,MB thank you,I did say that.I wish miss La Violette would say that well,you dont want me to take the defendant’s word on the basis of her having lied in the past,why should I take the victim’s word who was proved to be a liar also?

    • The prosecutor harped on and on about Travis being in fear because Jodi was stalking him, he went over it several times. My question is, if he had so much fear because Jodi was stalking him, then why in the hell was he continuing to have sex with her????

      If someone was stalking me, I sure as hell wouldn’t be inviting them over to have sex!! That isn’t even logical!

      • Gail, I quite agree.

        If the roles were reversed, and A WOMAN was claiming she had A MALE stalker, and that she was afraid, but she let him into her house and had intimate relations with him (willingly), then she ended up dead, she’d be criticized immensely, as “that idiot woman who caused her own death”

  14. Does anyone else feel the need to rinse out their brain with cool water? And get a milkshake?

  15. Random rocks are more interesting in Juan the bore. He wants a yes or no answer because that is all he can understand. Rocks are smarter too, and in most cases taller and better looking. He’s just angry at life because he got beat up during recess every single day, then before and after school in high school, and then as the mascot for his Sorority (didn’t make it in the frat house). He wasn’t an actual member of the sorority, he was the mascot. He dressed up as a weasel and they called him Little Juan (one). He served the sisters dinners, hand washed their panties and cleaned the bathrooms (in his weasel suit).

  16. Martinez went down another dead-end : it’s not disputed that Alexander told everyone Arias was a stalker, that’s absolutely part of the defence case.

    The question is what is the truth, and Alexander’s word for it means nothing ( nor does the word of anyone who might have believed him ).

    Not exactly an advanced argument for the defence to make in closing.

  17. Does anyone know if JM has a juvie record or anything – he seems to LOVE beating dead horses….

  19. I just went spying to see how “They” thought this morning went and I stumbled unto the Travis memorial site. Very nice site and all, I’ll give them that, but are they using some of JODI’s photos??? Cuz that ain’t right! If they hate her so much I don’t think they should use ANYTHING they she produced at all!! Just my opinion!

    • haha I agree with that I looked too an thought the same thing? how strange they would feel comfortable doing that. I guess her camera an their vacations on seeing the 1000 places together will never be forgotten. An I bet she took more photos of him because she was into photography so hers are more than his regular friends that take the random photo here an there.

      An has anyone ever noticed in the crime photos Travis kept a photo of himself on his stand beside
      his bed? who does that? I never have maybe it is normal for younger people now a days?

    • Yes, they use Jodi’s photos then turn around and say she was a stalker because she always took pics of him. That faux Time magazine cover “Alexander the Great” is using one of Jodi’s photos. It is absolutely ludicrous!

    • I remember thinking same sort of thing…. reading so many condescending posts making fun of Jodi’s photography interest and ability and then seeing some of these same peeps embellishing their avatars or posts with pictures of TA that likely would not even exist in the first place if not for Jodi having created such nice photos of him in the first place! Must only be a very LOW percentage of these peeps’ neurons that are actually capable of firing neurotransmitters at any given moment is all that I can figure out…lol
      It’s like they only see what they WANT to see and then draw unreasonable conclusions…

  20. It’s obvious Travis was not being honest when he says he was stalked. Being stalked is being terrified 24 hours a day of the person who is violating your life and any sense of privacy or safety, there is no safe place from the stalker. A person who is stalked constantly worries about the stalker and what they will attempt to do next. Travis was not stalked. The proof is in the photographs he was smiling and posing in from the bed and in the shower. Jodi being in the bathroom that day and the pictures on that camera PROVE he was not stalked. When you are terrorized by a stalker you do everything you can do to avoid them. It infuriates me that this is being thrown around so carelessly. My favorite flower was Ferber daisies my whole life, to this day I cannot look at the flower. I received those flowers over 84 times. In one week I got 19 bouquets. I got a video tape of my “supposed grave site” with those flowers everywhere. This pisses me off. They know she did not stalk him and it is sad it is being thrown around so easily. Stalking is a horrible crime that alters a persons life, their family’s life, their friends lives. Disgusted!

      • Thank you for the kind response. It just infuriates me that these professional people throw this word around. My stalker went to prison for 5 years he’s been out for a long time and I was terrified the first year he was out and I am still uneasy all these years later. Thank god he only tried once to contact me through my friend and he said it was to say he was sorry. Of course I didn’t even acknowledge the sicko. I wish these people would think, for a second before spouting this stuff on the television. Stalking may now be a recognized crime and supposed to be treated seriously it still has a stigma that somehow the victim must be perpetrating this behavior or its a lovers spat, he just wants to make it up to you. I can only hope that the word stalker is used when it criminally fits, not when you have someone in a relationship still has a little crush and just doesn’t want to break up. Sometimes a stalker=murderer.

  21. Travis like lots of folks throw the word stalker around get loosely often meaning someone they don,t really like is bothering them usually because they are sending mixed messages. Where is the restraining orde?

      • Exactly! Travis also didnt want men or women to know he was still seeing Jodi. Stalker was a word used to make these women think Travis was only interested in them just in case they would see him around Jodi. It was a reason he might have gave as an excuse in case he got busted with her.

        • You know as much disgusted as I am I admire these people’s intelligence and how successrful they are in manipulating everything and everyone around them.I know such person and I always say that if they wasted half of their energy in coming clean with their friends/relatives etc rather than on plotting they would be happier and would not get into trouble!

    • Dr Droopy’s co-host referred to Alyce as “Satan’s Sidekick”!! What the hell is wrong with people??

      And of course the minions will run with that! How do they sleep at night knowing they are feeding the minions who are in turn attacking this woman?

      I feel so bad for Alyce, no one deserves this! 🙁

  23. http://www.seak.com/expert-witnesses-should-not-let-their-answers-get-cut-off-at-deposition/

    Expert Witnesses Should Not Let Their Answers Get Cut Off at Deposition

    48 SECOND VIDEO CLIP

    You have a right to finish your answers of the questions you are asked. If you’re interrupted during your reply speak up and insist on finishing your answer. In a courtroom the judge would speak up for you. In a deposition there is no judge present, so either you or the attorney who retains you must insist on your right to finish your reply.

  24. JM represents the people of the State of Arizona. Is it not in the people’s best interest to learn the WHOLE TRUTH. It is an injustice for “The Prosecutor” to stifle a witness (especially an expert) when she is attempting to answer truthfully (the Whole Truth) as she has sworn to do. Yes or no doesn’t cut it, right? I am so enraged!

    • Me too and I live here so I pay this clown to suppress evidence. And now he wants to suppress evidence that his statement that Jodi would have broken the shelves? Shameful and despicable.

  25. So I had the trial on another page and the seal was there – then I got the beep of death (meaning every time I get that long beep it means trial has been canceled). Does anyone know what is happening?

  26. I watch HLN occasionally (just to check in on what the inmates who are running the asylum are currently talking about) and here’s the latest: Vinnie P., in discussing this morning’s testimony with Jean C., is ruminating that Ms. LaViolette is not giving Yes or No answers “the way she’s supposed to.” “Who does that remind you of?” Vinnie asks, and they both nod and smile in agreement that Jodi on the stand was likewise obstinate. WTF??

    • I have the trial on live feed today. It’s SO much better to hear it without the inane commentary on HLN.

      • I wonder what the founding fathers would think of a defendant being tried in the media such that even if a jury in a court of law finds them not guilt, their lives are totally destroyed. HLN should be ashamed, especially since these are legal people who have obviously studied law, justice and the Constitution. They don’t seem to mind stomping all over a defendant’s right to have their innocence believed, even if they might be innocent. HLN decided from the beginning that she’s guilty and then has consistently cherry-picked their so-called “news” to fit that verdict. They’ve turned this woman’s fight for her life into a biased TV reality show – all for the sake of ratings. The founding fathers surely must be turning over in their graves.

      • I thought it was hilarious that they didn’t even broadcast Juan’s cross from Thursday. I think they were speechless.

    • They were saying that on cross witness is supposed to do this unless judge allows explanations. Anyone know if this is true or not?

    • Yeah, it’s disgusting isn’t it? They know better, too, I believe Vinnie is supposed to be a former prosecutor and Jinkasaurus is a seasoned court reporter. So THEY KNOW that yes/no answers aren’t necessary, let alone what a witness is “supposed” to give.

      • maybe ‘former’ is the key word here?Hey,I dont pretend to know these people you’re talking about but if he was excelling in his profession then why dropping that to be on TV?Just saying…

  27. Let’s see if they start on time this afternoon!! I say 1:40pm at the earliest…

  28. I felt like JM lead me blindfolded in a dark empty room and told me to crawl around on my hand and knees and find a very important piece of information. It’s in there…I put you in the room it’s your responsibility to find. I’ve spent 30 minutes on pointing out what is and what isn’t a Keynote speaker..now you have the goods on her.. she lies on her resume. I know I’m bias..but gives a hairy rat’s .s.

    • I know. I always feel horrible when I’m eating anything and the camera pans over to her, looking so much thinner than a few months ago… Too thin. 🙁

    • OMG!!!You guys….I thought I was the only lunatic feeling like that and wouldnt dare to admit it.Thank God,Im not alone,love ya!!!

  30. Al and I were discussing surrebuttal in AZ over the weekend. I did a quick search on Google Scholar to see if I could find any case law defining when it’s permitted. I did find a case that defined it. Also of interest is that, in that case, the AZ Supreme Court also defined the duty and responsibilities of the prosecutor:

    “The duty to accomplish justice is particularly imposed on prosecutors. The comments to ER 3.8, Arizona Rules of Professional Conduct, dealing with the “Special Responsibilities of a Prosecutor,” state: “[a] prosecutor has the responsibility of a minister of justice and not simply that of an advocate. This responsibility carries with it specific obligations to see that the defendant is accorded procedural justice and that guilt is decided upon the basis of sufficient evidence.” Ariz. R. Sup.Ct. 42, ER 3.8, Rules of Professional Conduct.”
    State v. Talmadge, 999 P. 2d 192 – Ariz: Supreme Court 2000

    http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15339478391147477001&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr

    Is JM a “minister of justice”?

    • I would have to say NOT. He doesn’t conduct himself as “a minister of justice.”

      Also, JM has done everything to prevent “that guilt is decided upon the basis of sufficient evidence.”

      JM has done everything to keep the truth out.

    • Is it fact that JM will get to put on a Surrebuttal Case at the end that the Defense won’t get to challenge at all? Because leave it to Mini-Man to introduce some ridiculous “evidence” that neither JW nor KN would get to rebut… I know he’s not supposed to, but c’mon, does JM ever follow any rules?

      • JM will put on rebuttal witnesses, of that I have no doubt whatsoever. He would be a fool not to do so, as it allows him the final witnesses presented to the jury, and he has to try every which way he can to win his case. Also, he has his own DV expert that he’s really going to want the jury to hear to rebut everything Alyce and Dr. Samuels has said.

        That being said, the witnesses he puts on *will* be cross examined by the defense (assuming they wish to do so), and then redirected by the prosecution (assuming he wishes to do so), which again, gives JM the last word with those witnesses. (To complicate that a little bit further, under extremely rare circumstances, the defense might get to re-cross, but that seems to be allowed very very very very rarely in AZ.)

        Surrebuttal would be a phase of the trial that the defense would put on that would only occur in extremely rare circumstances also in AZ. It would be up to the judge’s discretion as to whether or not to allow it and the judge has a very high degree of discretion in regards to surrebuttal. It would have to be something very new that occurred during the rebuttal phase. The AZ Supreme Court was very clear in that opinion I quoted from above: “Surrebuttal testimony may be offered to introduce evidence in response to new rebuttal testimony or to impeach rebuttal testimony and must be more than cumulative.” and ” Only in rare cases will it be error for the trial court to refuse to admit the testimony.”

        So, to answer your question, Ashley, JM *will* put on a rebuttal phase, and the defense *will* get to cross examine the witnesses presented, so it won’t be a complete “free-for-all” for JM. However, JM *will* get the last word with those witnesses on redirect.

        One interesting thing I’ve learned about AZ is that cross examination is NOT limited to the scope of direct. It can be about ANYTHING relevant to the case. (This is not the scope of cross in other states, which is why I just learned about it.) However, redirect IS limited to the scope of the cross. Therefore, JM’s last word with those witnesses will be limited to anything which the defense crosses on ONLY.

        As for the defense being able to put on a surrebuttal phase, it’s truly unlikely to happen unless there’s a gigantic surprise in JM’s rebuttal and a witness that MUST be impeached or the defense has to given a chance to present other witnesses. A hypothetical example might be if JM brought in a witness who saw Jodi in the desert holding the knife and the gun in her hands and attempting to dispose of them. Of course, this is really silly, because if JM had that kind of smoking gun witness, he would have put them on the stand already during his case in chief. But I’m just trying to give an example of a wild situation when a surrebuttal might be allowed.

        So yes, I expect some surprises from JM in the rebuttal phase. But the defense will have a chance to cross examine them, and JM will have had to list those witnesses, so the defense should have an idea what’s coming before they testify. I hope that makes sense.

      • All I can picture is a ferret standing on its hind legs flexing skinny little arms,saying did I ask you that? Thanks for the laugh

        • omg…you’re making my stomach hurt from laughing too much….
          (even though I feel you are insulting ferrets with the comparison)

        • I know!
          I told my husband when juan was standing there with his arms folded, juan said are you through and Alyce said yes AND then the asshole said now answer my question that he reminded me of one of the dwarfs.
          My husband said yeah, Dopey.

          LOL and I always liked the 7 dwarfs.
          NOW even they are being bullied by jaun : )
          Who know how old thry know?
          And he asked Alyce did she talk to them??? What a f’n asshole.
          I don’t know that I’ve ever seen such a circus in a court room ever.

  31. Does any one know the make and model of TA sony camera? I can’t believe a camera that expensive doesn’t have one of those little trash buttons. No biggy, just curious.

    • I don’t know the made and model. I’m sure it did have a trash button, but just like with a computer, it did not delete all traces of the photo and was, therefore, forensically recoverable. In fact, if I’m not mistaken, I believe that is exactly what happened with Travis’s camera.

  32. I swear Kathy Bates would be perfect playing Alyce LaViolette in the movie version of this
    insane trial, the only thing would make it more epic if she went all “Misery” on
    JM ass!!! Sorry one can only daydream….

  33. I had this on the other thread before I realized that y’all were all over here on the afternoon thread. LOL!

    Attention to ALL people who wanna bitch, whine, moan, groan, and complain about this trial: Blame it on this ridiculous fucking judge! Where else do they start at 9:30am (Yeah, like they ever start ON TIME), take a morning recess, get 1.5-hr lunch break, take an afternoon break, and finish by 4:30pm?!? OH, and only “work” 4 days a week? No damn wonder it’s taken 3 months! At this rate, maybe we’ll finish by Christmas… But I wouldn’t bet on it!

    Only I would get pissed the fuck off because I was gone for almost 2 hours, didn’t hardly miss a damn thing, and NOW they’re at lunch for another freakin’ hour-and-a-half! My head’s gonna explode.

    • Just to be fair to the judge, this is NOT the only case on her docket. Judges generally have hundreds of cases at any given time. This one is at trial, but she cannot completely clear her docket and work on this case, and only this case. Her caseload does not disappear just because this case is on trial. There are plenty of other defendants that have constitutional rights to a speedy trial and the judge cannot deny them their rights. There HAS to be a time in her day, even while on trial, when she hears emergency motions, statuses, settlement conferences, sentencing hearings, etc. Most of these hearings are very brief, perhaps even limited to 5-10 minutes (I don’t know the rules in that jurisdiction specifically), but sometimes, the lawyers are late or a witness is late and they run a little bit longer than expected. She appears to be doing all of those in the morning before trial begins.

      In addition, as we saw this morning, there are times when various motions and hearings in this case come up and they have to be dealt with before the trial begins as they may be important to the continuation of this trial (such as the juror dismissed last week).

      Also, the judge is required by law to give the jurors adequate breaks. Employers are also required to do this and cannot prevent an employee from using the restroom, for example. I don’t know exactly why they give 1.5 hours for lunch, but perhaps there’s some reason, such as the location of the court and accessibility to food vendors in the locality.

      My understanding of why they are finishing at 4:30 p.m. is so that there is time for Jodi to change and be transported back to the prison in time for the 6 p.m. sharp dinner that is enforced in that county. If Jodi was out on bail at the moment, I suspect the trial would go a little longer, but on the days when it did go longer early on, Jodi missed dinner and her attorneys asked for that not to happen.

      The judge has a difficult balancing act here in many ways. She’s trying to accommodate other cases on her docket, ensure the jurors have sufficient breaks, and ensure Jodi can get back in time for dinner. I don’t like everything the judge does any more than most of us here, however, I am just trying to point out that it’s not always as easy as you think.

  36. It seems to me this judge is intimidated by JM. She needs to dig deep and find a bigger vagina. Sheesh!

  37. Juan looked ENRAGED going up to the sidebar. I swear I think it’s just his personality. I’ll bet he’s enraged eating his Cheerios in the morning.

  39. Hey y’all

    With regards to id# 001 – 001 is the defendant’s ID# and has nothing to do with who filed the motion. Jodi’s id is 001, so 001 is referenced on every motion in this case.

    Party-wise:
    party (1) – Juan
    party (2) – Jodi
    party (3) – DP mitigation specialist

    But none of the court documents say which party filed it.

  41. Regarding Thursday, did anyone have the thought of the Wicked? At first I thought that what he was going to do is rewrite Snow White

    • I am home sick today and I was watching on HLN earlier, while laying on the sofa. As a surprise, they actually had some decent attorneys on there today who weren’t completely biased. One of them speculated that from what he’s seeing, JM will try to keep ALV on the stand all of this week. Aaargh! Then, the defense will redirect for a day or so, I’d imagine.

  44. I wonder what the founding fathers would think of a defendant being tried in the media such that even if a jury in a court of law finds them not guilt, their lives are totally destroyed anyway. HLN should be ashamed, especially since these are legal people who have obviously studied law, justice and the Constitution. They don’t seem to mind stomping all over a defendant’s right to have their innocence believed, even if they might possibly be innocent. HLN decided from the beginning that she’s guilty and then has consistently cherry-picked their so-called “news” to fit that verdict. They’ve turned this woman’s fight for her life into a biased TV reality show – all for the sake of ratings. The founding fathers surely must be turning over in their graves.

    • Ms B, did you see when AJ Hammer did a segment on Showbiz Tonight that the Jodi Arias trial is the “ultimate reality tv show”?

      Neither Jodi nor her family signed any agreement or consented to be part of this so-called “show” yet that is how it is being presented to the public.

      I agree – HLN should be ashamed of themselves, especially since many of the anchors present themselves as progressive or as victim’s advocates. They are anything but.

  46. Dang, he’s looking at the names, she’s not, and she STILL had to correct JM on the name.

  60. We know what he’s trying to say. She disagrees. Why can’t he move on?

    • Exactly! We know where he’s getting at,why won’t he just SPIT IT OUT and freaking move on??Instead of wasting trial time over nothing?

  63. Man what does JM not get. SnowWhite was a tale written by someone.

    Whta she read were the communications of all these women with TA. So in fact she was listening in on conversations between TA and these women.

    How dumb can he be, and more importantly how dumb does he think the jury is?

    This is beyond ridiculous.

    JM needs a class in logic, or just a smack across the head with a 2X4, maybe that’ll jolt him into reality.

    Jeez, what a clown

  64. I got a new huge tv hanging on my wall in family room. It’s a pretty good tv, anyhow, on this tv it looks like Juan is wearing foundation. Smile, Juan lol

  65. Martinez looks like an a**. If he wanted to make any headway or try and make someone look bad, it’s him. Really, the taxpayors of Arizona are paying him to talk about Snow White???? He’s getting frustrated with her because she refuses to cave to the answers that he wants! There should have been about three questions from Martinez – and the other side sasy the defense is wasting time?????? How many times can he ask her that she made an assessment and never talked to them????? Boring – snoozw!

  66. Hi All-
    I missed the morning session, but it appears from what I am viewing now, I didn’t miss anything. Is this a correct assessment? You may answer with more than a yes or no if you would like.
    thanks

    • The trial started 1 hour late and hell yeah you didnt miss anything.Martinez tried to trip and discredit ALV through petty examples(no way would I use the word evidence).For example;were she or were she not the’keynote speaker’in that SnowWhite presentation etc…Nothing,really…Nothing.

      • Thanks MB. That is what I thought. Almost seemed like it was ground hog day all over again.

        • You missed a bunch of hoopla where JM was trying to discredit ALV based on the fact that her CV lists about 25 keynote speeches she has done. His point was that for one of them (and he showed the itinerary), she was not listed as the keynote speaker for the plenary portion of the conference. Instead, she was a speaker at a breakout session. But the conference itinerary did not list her as a “keynote speaker”. She offered up the distinction that she was a keynote breakout speaker but JM refused to listen and tried (in his usual aggressive manner) to make her look like a liar because the itinerary didn’t specifically call her that. I guess his point was that she should have separated her CV into two sections, one which specified where she was the keynote speaker for the plenary conference, and one which specified where she was the keynote speaker for a breakout session.

          Honestly, the whole thing was beyond ridiculous. A lawyer on HLN actually agreed with that and called it a tactical error on JM’s part. SHOCK SHOCK SHOCK! (His time on HLN will be short!) And Jean Casarez even sort of agreed, much to the chagrin of Vinnie Politan.

  69. Are there no lawyers in Arizona that will do an intervention on Martinez? He’s going to be really embarrassed when he returns to reality.

    • I think it is too late.

      I really wonder if there is something wrong with the man…

  70. What the heck is Juan doing? Last Thursday Snow White, this week CSI! He is not grounded in reality.

  74. Life lessons: there’s always a first time for everything and this trial is my first for sure!

  75. JM your brain is squirmin’ like a toad!! He is all over the place. And her approach is based on years and years of schooling and practice. Unlike you Mr. Wizard she doesn’t SPECULATE!

    How this guy got to be a DA is beyond me. You’ve got to be kidding me.

  77. I gotta think that someone spoke to Juan over the weekend and told him he needed to tone it down. Yelling at the female DV expert was not smart. Juan is really toned down today.

  80. Oh my goodness, he is so fixated on trying to make his point, that he has lost all reason! He and DF used their brain to come up with their theory of Jodi’s guilt rather than concrete evidence of murder .

  82. If the jury is stupid enough to believe this line of questioning then our judicial system is in worse shape than I thought.

      • JM spent the afternoon trying to get a “confession” out of Alyce. He wants her to say to him that she is “sorry” for starting her first interview with Jodie by saying to Jodi that she, Alyce, is sorry. Then he wants Alyce to go home and say 10 Hail Marys and scrub all the floors on her knees until they bleed.

        Honest to God, JM is trying to indict Alyce for the sin of not “choosing” to use an “alternative” method of breaking the ice when she introduced herself to Jodi. Alyce had no right to use her professional discretion. She was way out of line by “choosing” to apologize to Jodi _ surely an act of professional misconduct, if not treason!

        Then JM began insisting that Alyce continue to submit herself to his “examination” of competency by reciting for “the prosecutor” as many alternative client opening examples as she could in the next 30 seconds _ other than apologizing.

        An apology would be the mis-conduct, in that it expressed empathy for the prisoner; surely she had never showed such to anyone she had worked with prior to Jodi. It was only Jodi that she “chose” to express this to, RIGHT?

        Alyce said she had “chosen” this conciliatory act because she, Alyce, felt really bad that of necessity, she had been privy to all of those sacred thoughts that Jodi wrote, as well as intimate views of all those pictures of Jodi’s most sacred parts.

        We have spawned a culture of slime and ooze. I sure hope we can find our way back.

        This man is crazy, dangerous, and abusive beyond description. Groundhog Day, my foot. He drags us back to the bloody Inquisition.

    • Ashley-
      Can you imagine how lost the jury is? If I were on the jury I would feel like the pros was insulting my intelligence

  85. JM is not going to let up on Alyce until she says or answers exactly what he wants her to say and answer…

    He is such an azz…

  86. I cannot freakin’ believe that JM seems to be accusing ALV’s testimony to be not use-able in court! Really?

  89. I think we will hear more about what ALV’s presentation really was on the re-direct. He never quite understood, or chose not to, that Alyce did not even pretend assess Snow White.

    That will show the jury what a jackass kermit is.

  95. JM HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! THAT is why he is just waiting for ALV to say anything – anything that he can dispute and get the jury to focus on that shit than the truth of the fact that HE HAS NOTHING.

    Dear God – does anyone know what happens next with the motion for mistrial that was most recently filed by defense?

        • cindyp-
          sorry to ask again, but can’t get anything to come up re: the acutal filed Doc. Any other ideas on how I can find it?
          Thanks

          • Hi TR – sorry I couldn’t reply earlier; I got kicked off the site and could not get back on until now. Anyway, no – I do not. I got the link from this site. I believe it was posted a couple times; this morning and then again this afternoon. I’m waiting to see what happens with this. I’m sure nothing since EVERYTHING by defense gets denied/overruled/etc. so I’m sure Nurmi and Wilmott filed it for future appeals sake, if needed.

            I would be interested if anyone else has any other info about this. I’ll keep watching and reading while I’m watching/listening to the trial tomorrow (reading the comments helps take the edge off during JM’s rants. lol)

  96. Jesus Christ, I’m so bored and confused. I’m ready to read the Book of Mormon.

  97. I don’t need a computer to profile this turd pile of a prosecution either.

    It IS a scientific approach: collecting data from n cases of DV to classify, detect and predict abuse. Is nothing but scientific.

  98. Jesus Christ, I’m so bored and confused, I’m ready to read the Book of Mormon.

  99. Where are the Badgering Objections?!? Not like Judge Dredd here would Sustain it, but damn!

  106. I can’t even watch anymore. Had to take a break The other day the news was making a big deal of this youtube video of a guy firing a gun into his TV set at Juan and obliterating it. If you ask me the guy under-reacted. If I only had an Uzi. lol

  108. Holy man!! What a condescending little prick! (sorry admin!) I’d like to smack him upside the head!

  113. Alyce isn’t giving this fucker an inch…good for her. Can’t wait for Jennifer to go up again.

  114. How is ALV answering, “I don’t know the answer to your question.” a cause for him to whine to the judge, “Make her answer the question!”?

    • No, he doesn’t know what he sounds like. He thinks he sounds clever. I believe the way he is behaving with this witness is going to come back and bite him in the behind.

  117. OMG now he’s jumping to well then she has a bias!! He is so weak.

  120. Wow JM is so afraid that the jury now knows that TA was an abusive SOB and has no where to go but harass and nit pick. Sorry JM, but the horse is out of the barn….go home.

    • Yeah, I loved when Kermit replayed the names of the multiple woman whom TA was fooling around with.

    • Yes TR. This is only the second trial I’ve watched in my life, and I have to say I’m so disappointed. So much for truth and justice.

      • Trying.
        I’ve seen some before and THIS ONE really disappoints me.
        AND they BRAG that our Justice system is being seen ALL over the world????
        SHAME on judge and juan

  122. Why isn’t this judge stepping in and stopping this? How much long can this continue?

  124. I wish she would just say she came up with her answer because she is a TRAINED PROFESSIONAL EXPERT IN HER FIELD!

  125. Her objection is improper? Fuck you, Juan. Jennifer can’t ask for a date on a text message?

  128. People like JM eventually get badly burned – his day is coming. Mark my words. No one human can treat others in the manner he does and not get a visit from Karma.

  129. Is Juan hittin the bong! He sounds like a stoner contemplating the planets. Make it stop

  130. So when Dickbag’s expert gets up there, is he going to acknowledge that other professionals in her field may have opinions that differ from hers?

  132. Well Martinez is at least back to being vaguely rational.

    It’s pretty small beer though. He is pointing out the obvious – that there is some subjectivity involved in making an assessment.

    But the jury have heard plenty of the sort of abuse Alexander spouted,

    The defence is on very strong ground here I think.

    • By that token, he has to admit that his own expert’s opinion is her own biased opinion. He can’t cut it both ways.

      • exactly!If he’s so ready to discredit Alyce’s testimony based on its subjectivity then he should do it with his own ”baby” witness!And franky,it’s obvious even to a lay person that this WAS an abusive relationship,all one needs is to read and listen to TA’s words!!!

    • There’s subjectivity involved in every field. Medical doctors come to different conclusions, researchers come to different conclusions…and yes, Kermit, cops do too. He is SUCH an asshole.

    • geebee…

      I think I am confused at what you are saying…I have developed memory fog…

      Can you elaborate?… “‘The defence is on very strong ground here I think.’

  134. can any tell me if that was chris hughes i saw in the back of the travis family

  135. Since there are more men on the jury then women…..I wonder what they think of Kermit????? He is such an arrogant asshole!!!

    • He’s lucky that I’m not on the jury because I’d acquit Jodi JUST on the basis of Kermit being an arrogant prick.

  136. so wait………..Its ok to believe Jodi’s word from her diary/text/emails but not TA, or any of the other girls he was involved with.

  137. I like how JM just brought up that JA “has only had 4 significant relationship”.

    • Kira,
      he is so insulting and likes to put people down just like Travis.
      I’m with you fuck off already.
      I seriously after this don’t believe I can watch him anymore.
      I can’t stand to see anyone badgered.
      I’d like to bitch slap him from here to the middle no where.
      I’ll watch the rest of the trial, but not him.

  139. Nope, Martinez… Welcome to life in a small town, where everybody knows your business before you do!

    • And where everyone wants to be the one to tell you that your boyfriend is an asshole.

    • I have a teenager and I know all about the

      “did you hear Lindsey said Sofia said Megan likes Ryan but Ryan told Sofia that he like Chrisie and went to the movies with her, but didn’t tell Amy, and I swear if you tell Amy, I’ll kill you and never tell you anything else”

      except in real teenager speak there is a “like” after every two words. and Every sentence begins and ends with “OH My God, you’re neve going to believe it but like…….”

      • I meant a teenage girl.

        I have a teenage boy too and his conversations start with Dude and then the rest is full of so many Ums and Uhs that I loose interest real quick.

        • Dont forget the ” BRO” they use these days…. My kids sometimes reference me as Dude, and I quickly tell them ” I am your mother ” not your friend ” dude”.

          If this idiot had a strong case he would be going after Walmart, the gas station, the gun, etc…..

          He’s skating on thin ice…………….

          • Oh I have that conversation once too often.

            “I am your father. I am really glad that you consider me a friend. But once again DO NOT CALL ME DUDE!”

      • Girls have their own network when it come to finding out thing about their boyfriend. 🙂

  140. You know, I waitressed when I was in college, and I can’t tell you how many people would swing by the restaurant to see me who would never swing by my home to see me. It was very social. It is definitely not a red flag to me.

  142. jw good objection
    jm is constantly mischaracterizing evidence and even answers from just a second ago

    • Oh, i missed that!
      Would REALLY have LOVED to observe THAT!
      Damn, about TIME, TOO!

  144. I decided to spin this, we should send Juan thank you cards. He is showing his case is weak against Jodi and he’s showing it through this questioning. He’s hanging off a cliff and grasping at the gravel and patch of grass. Your slipping Juan!

  146. WTF does this have to do with anything?

    She has a history of lying after the killing……BAM

  147. When he whines to the judge she is being non responsive he really means “Judge she is making too much sense, please shut her up!”

    • “Judge, she’s not saying what I want her to say!” (Pouts and throws toys out of playpen.)

      • He calls all the women witnesses ma’am which I believe he says it to be condescending. I noticed he also called the judge ma’am, hhhmmm.

  148. Good for you Alyce! “She doesn’t have a history of lying prior to the killing.”

  149. I hate to say this, and I hate JM’s methods, and I know you’ll all hate me for this, but he is scoring some points here. He is doing what I worried about and pointing out that ALV relied on what Jodi said without independent corroboration.

      • What worries me is whether or not Dr. DeMarte interviewed some of the other girls.

        • She may have, but the defense probably had a chance to interview her so they should have it covered. More importantly since DeMartes had a chance to interview at least Samuels, the defense expert had some chance to interview DeMartes.

          But the most important thing is that any interview DeMartes conducted and the information she gained might be hearsay? (Legal Eagles step in here).

          • But don’t forget that an expert can rely on what would otherwise be considered hearsay evidence while forming their opinion.

            You lost me on this one Al: “More importantly since DeMartes had a chance to interview at least Samuels, the defense expert had some chance to interview DeMartes.”

            From what I could tell of ALV’s testimony, she referenced a few areas where she and Dr. D disagreed with one another. Therefore, I assume Dr. D wrote a report which ALV read. I might have missed the part where Dr. S said he had a sit down session with Dr. D though (and kind of find that difficult to understand as to why he would have). But I’m kinda lost in what you mean there as even if they did, psychologists are very good at “pokerface” if you catch my meaning there. They are trained not to react and not to give away much about their personal interpretations with their clients, and I’m sure they could do the same with other doctors. What am I missing?

            • I get the first part. That’s old Rule 703, how I could have forgotten escapes me.

              I just had an impression that there was more to DeMartes did than just looking at data. I thought these folks may have talked to each other. Of course I could have been mistaken.

              If that were true, then they would have had a chance to ask DeMartes whether she spoke to these other people or not.

              Even if she did, it’s now a case of their expert against the other side’s expert, which is always the case in these trials. I mean I doubt if JM would put DeMartes up if she agreed with the defense experts. So I’m sure the jury will just have to weigh the experience and general credibility of the two sets of experts and eventually believe the parts they want to.

              In fact this jury will have to do what JM is trying to blame ALV of doing.

              • Ah, okay Al, I get it now. And yes, unfortunately, expert witnesses in trials often counter each other out.

                I think what we have here is a situation where JM has cast some doubt on parts of Dr. S’s testimony. I don’t think the jury bought that Dr. S had feelings for Jodi at all. And I think that the whole “giving her the book” stuff was completely tossed aside when ALV testified that she does the exact same thing and there’s nothing unethical about it. Dr. S’s testimony was a bit of a stretch for the average person anyway. Essentially, I think they put him up there to excuse Jodi’s memory losses about the actual killing. They hoped to also establish that she suffered from PTSD prior to that date. I wish Dr. S had not used any testing at all and had just diagnosed her clinically. That hurt him and thereby, hurt the weight of his testimony. Nonetheless, I think the jury liked him, in general, and didn’t discard everything he said.

                I think the jury has truly enjoyed ALV. I believe they have related to her very well. At times, perhaps some of her testimony became a tad tedious. But, on the whole, I think they’ve been interested in hearing about how she formed her opinion, and she’s given them a great deal of perspective of who Travis Alexander was. Now, JM is trying his utmost to rip her a part during cross and it remains to be seen how successful he will actually be when all is said and done. I think she’s holding her own so far, but he’s very frustrating and that’s his MO.

                Whatever happens, I think his big problem is going to be that his witness has very little experience, and both of the defense experts have significant experience. Therefore, the only thing he has to attack with is their personal bias. Who will the jury believe in the end? I don’t know. I will judge Dr. D impartially to the best of my ability and see what I think then.

      • ALV,looks exhausted from being asked nonsensical questions.She doesnt look defeated.As to the ‘you only listened to one side of the story” I agree with Kira,so did his expert witness.Unless she claims she has rised TA from the dead!

        • And if she talked to Jodi. I would be very surprised if her attorneys allowed the defense expert to interview Jodi. If they did that would be incompetent counsel.

    • It looks like he is peeling her like a carrot..

      Hopefully they’ll be something left of the carrot when he’s through..

      Unless he eats what’s left…

    • Yes, but Alyce said she could see that Mr. Alexander had a history of lying, and Jodi does NOT. That Jodi only lied after the killing. And it’s the TRUTH.

      • Yes and no. She could have interviewed the women who sent the emails, texts and IMs. (I don’t know why the defense decided NOT to have her interview them — perhaps it was due to the expense of doing so?) But that’s the point JM is trying to make. She relied only on their written conversations and what she heard from Jodi — a known liar. And ALV herself said that 90% of communication is non-verbal, which was a strong point for JM. Now, ALV had great comebacks in distinguishing between face-to-face and written conversations (and saying Travis had the history of lying, not Jodi) and that her comment about non-verbal wasn’t in reference to written communication, but I think JM still scored a point or two in that round in that round on that portion. And I have a sneaking suspicion he’s gearing up towards his expert who WILL have interviewed those other women.

        One thing I did notice in there, and it apparently escaped ALV (but hopefully NOT the defense) is that JM was trying to state that ALV’s comment about non-verbal communication applies to the clinical world. That’s NOT what ALV testified to at all. She was saying that she wasn’t sure if that saying (90% of communication is non-verbal) is something often said outside of the clinical world — because she’s been in the clinical world since the freaking 70s. In other words, although she’s heard it tossed around in her circles, she wasn’t sure if it’s something said by lay people. (It is!) However, JM made it all about that saying being something important WITHIN the clinical world. In other words, he was taking her sentence extremely literally and attempting to say that without face-to-face observations, according to her own testimony, she really couldn’t evaluate and form an opinion of exactly what was occurring as she wasn’t there to see their facial and bodily expressions. He twisted that one up pretty well, I hate to say.

        I hope JW caught it and can clarify that on redirect because if I caught it, a juror might also have caught it. ALV tends to speak very colloquially, sometimes with run on sentences, which is good as the jury relates to that, but in this instance, it may hurt.

        • Does anybody think that any of the girls that are either Morman, work with PPL and/or both, would actually tell a psychologist anything negative about TA?

          If they did speak to the State’s rookie psych and she has only good things to say, their emails with TA’s rants, etc., will be brought up again….ugh

          • I doubt they’d say anything negative. If they were willing, I think the defense would have used them, just as they did the Freemans.

    • But how can it be without independent corroboration when Alyce already testified to reading Travis’ journal and emails from his sister? She said she did her best to get a well rounded perspective of the situation. She did not form her opinion in an echo chamber.

      Any points he scores via manipulation are unearned and illegitimate gains. IMO

    • Michele, I think that’s what the jury will want: the opportunity to look at each of these tests, IMs and emails themselves.

      I asked my co-worker who has been on 3 juries about that. He said something similar happened in one of those trials and certain information one of the witnesses discussed was not admitted into evidence and was, therefore, not in the jury room. The judge gave them an instruction about it, but my co-worker said there was still a great deal of dissatisfaction among the jurors during deliberation that they had not been given the actual piece of evidence to review. Several of them bandied around that the prosecution was trying to hide something from them. Some of them felt as if the judge instructing them not to concern themselves with why it wasn’t in evidence was condescending and even insulting to their intelligence.

      This was in DC though, not conservative AZ, so perhaps those jurors will be different. I don’t know.

  151. Alyce, just spit it out, girl… Mr. Martinez, I don’t have a clue what the hell you’re asking me!

  155. JM is the Biggest Ass on the face of the Earth, I’m so BORED with him I’ve gone to updating my Itunes.. thank God for Itunes (my music)

    Donna

  156. Has anyone seen the youtube video of the lizard on acid talking nonsensically? This is Juan! I am going to post the url on here for a good laugh. Well JM makes even less sense and he’s also a frog. I hope this works. JM thinks he’s the King of tying knots. lol http://youtu.be/tQ_fnYhI1HU

      • She is a very very powerful witness and knows just when to get these little zingers in.

        Interestingly enough, HLN had a female blonde lawyer on this morning who was saying she had worked with ALV in CA and that she’s not someone who easily believes in DV. She essentially said she’s a tough cookie and has a really strong BS detector.

        • That needs to be heard. Wish they could get someone to testify to that in court. I am surprised HLN let that air!

          • I’ve never watched HLN during the daytime before, but it seems they let a lot more stuff be said then than they do during their big evening shows.

    • That was powerful. We really needed that one. I’m sure that had some impact on the jury. Yes, Jodi lied about THE biggest thing in her entire life. But prior to that, she had a history of being honest. Travis, on the other hand, lied to every girl he fancied and/or dated, in an attempt to get what he wanted.

  159. There you go!!! The only one that has a history of lying is Mr. Alexander!!! Oh, I love her!!! It’s the truth!!!!

  161. Who the fuck let one of the Oompa Loompa’s escape from the Chocolate Factory?! Somebody better get a hold of Willy Wonka and let him know.

    • Unless he falls into that river of chocolate and his female fans eat him up…there’ll be no reason for Willy Wonka to waste his money on gasoline to drive there…

  162. I love how quickly JM pulled that exhibit, sly prick. Good girl, Alyce, asking him to put it back on the screen.

    • Yes Britney….Hypothetically I thought I was exhausted for it being Monday, but evidently it’s “the prosecutor’s fault” that’s significant to me LOL

  164. Even if we all agreed it was a fricking lie, IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY that long abusive and ranting text!! Cmon………….!!

  165. Oh, good God… I’m sorry, I have to step away for a few minutes. I’m liable to break something, I’m sorry.

    • I sincerely hope it’s Snow White with little birds and deers and butterflies to get her mind off this nightmare.

  167. Didn’t TA say JA only had a certain amount of time to give him the name of the girl?

    All that aside, it was true TA was cheating.

    • I think he was desperately afraid because he thought it could have been Mimi Hall.

  168. If TA didn’t believe it to be true, why did he go on and on demanding that Jodi tell him who told her?

  169. JM an Travis both lived by that saying Do as I say not as I Do bull crap. Twisting up sentences an then saying it is wrong really when he does the same thing for evidence of a DEAD PERSON. Emails Texts Journals TV Specials etc. He is so twisted I hope a few Jurors understand what the hell he is all about As Travis was too.

    I am so sick of people saying Trashing Travis the Victim. Really? so if he were a complete Angel/Saint an perfect example of the LDS CHURCH do they not think that would be shown also?

    We can’t see both sides without investigating the other side as too why this could happen in the first place.

    The other side would like everyone to believe Travis was a SAINT ……Jodi was a Evil Whore that came to his home uninvited an planned on what happened? that is INSANE ! as the texts an photos explain. FOLLOW THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE there is no premeditation in there. As Jodi stated THE SIMPLE Fact is He attacked me an I defended myself.

    • Yes Rhonda! We all know now, straight from the horses mouth (TA), that TA was an abusive man, and died because he attacked Jodi. Picked on someone he thought he could get away with, but didn’t get away with it that time!

      • Yes I heard it an we all heard it but that Travis Supporters still maintain another LIE that Jodi did all those texts herself? Do you think Mr. Martinez really believes that too? I know that the family an friends an co workers of Travis do? I think it is strange. But since they all are mainly MORMON’S I would have to think it is LYING FOR THE CHURCH too keep Travis on the Saintly Shelf.

    • Yep Rhonda that about sums up the trip down the rabbit hole of Juanderland that the pro-prossies want us to take.

      No thanks, I like reality just fine! lol

  170. He just keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper….He evidently didn’t read ALL the text messagesAND emails AND IMs, et al, like ALV did.

  171. use the objections bigtime
    object, object, object

    hey was jm allowed to cut al off with a bogus call to the judge to reprimand al

  172. This questioning is emotionally tiring and draining. I can’t imagine how Alyce must be feeling.

  174. Any one notice how often Martinez says “I understand that” when in reality he doesn’t understand any of it?

  175. “Yes with a qualifier” = “Mrs. Willcott, please allow me to elaborate on redirect.”

  179. I also love the way every time Martinez doesn’t like such-and-such that she just said, he then repeats it for the jury. “I understand that you such-and-such, …” I’m no lawyer but I would know enough not to do that.

    What an idiot!

  180. Is this line of questioning about the text message why he has that computer expert detective on his rebuttal list?

    • It has absolutely NOTHING to do with if Jodi lied in what text part 2! It’s about WHY she sent him anything purporting to be text part 2! She did that to placate Travis so he wouldn’t be pissed at her even more than he already was!

      • hell yeah!she has admitted to having sex with him even when she didnt want to(June 4th on the desk) just to placate him and make him shut up…let alone simply sending him a msg!

  182. “The way he (Alexander) handled his anger was what was important to me.” Yes, Alyce.

    • I don’t think that hurt her credibility. LV was looking at TA’s patterns of behavior. Not just how he spoke with JA but other girlfriends too. She was looking at the magnitude of his anger in his text rant.

      I’m sure the jury is as lost as most of us in trying to follow him through this fiasco of a XE.

  184. Does anyone know about what this means???
    Just saw it on Wild About Trial Tweet:
    Louise Watson‏@ryansmama19903m
    @WildAboutTrial have you heard anything about a problem that ALV is having with juror #1

    WOW!!

    • I would love to know what this means, how could that be? Is it the way Juror 1 is looking at her, or ALV looking at Juror 1?

  186. Is Judge Sherry on crack? Seriously, overruling all these no-brainer objections?!?

  189. Last question was:
    Isn’t true, ma’am, hypothetically, hu, wouldn’t it, so to speak, that, wouldn’t she , hu…., couldn’t she have, … hu
    He’s gonna collapse and fold.

  190. A few questions for anyone in the know…

    1. Any idea how I can find the most recently filed motion for mistrial? (the post from Ely didn’t work for me)

    2. Has there been any further information about the previous motion regarding the Photo Op with JM on the Court house steps? (it seems it was never followed up on, and I can’t find info anywhere)

    Thanks a bunch

    • Someone posted a link earlier. If you go to the Maricopa website and type in the case number
      CR2008-031021, it gives you the motions filed to date.

      I’ve not seen anything about the other pending motion.

    • There was a motion filed today:

      4/7/2013 MOT – Motion 4/8/2013
      NOTE: MOTION TO PRECLUDE; ANY AND ALL EVIDENCE RELATED ANY WEIGHT ASSESSMENTS OR TESTING ON SHELVING AT PLACE OF DEATH
      4/7/2013 MOT – Motion 4/8/2013
      NOTE: MOTION FOR MISTRIAL ; INABILITY TO PROVIDE EFFECTIVE ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL DUE TO PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT

  191. Mr. Martinez are you so biased that you forget that there are two victims here…Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander….

  193. Gesh I worked at Pizza Hut for years an friends always stopped by to visit me. Depends on what type of restaurant if it is something really fancy maybe not so much but a regular pub/restaurant like Ruby Tuesdays or Apple Bee’s they would stop by even more so as you can drink at the bar daaaaaaaaa

    • I dont think that’s his point,however.He wants to prove that she was obsessed enough to think her boyfriends cheated on her ,snooping on her own to find proof of their cheating and that in order not to lose face she had to ”accuse” others of finding out the info and passing it on to her.That’s what I made out of it,at least.Otherwise it’a a stupid point!

      • Even that I could understand almost all of them were cheaters so sad…………..but it has been shown she was not a outraged crazy nut of a gf that went all PHYSCO on them also. An even remained friends with ex boyfriends. Which says to me she gets over things an moves on. Travis it was taking longer due to she hoped to see a change she hoped he would get help it never happened so she moved on but he was still on her mind as she kept in touch as he did.

        That is the problem when you move on means no more contact period. But for some reason some people do this they remain friends with Ex’s even though they are not good people. Me on the other hand when I am done I am done no friend of mine would treat me with disrespect so why keep a cheater for a friend in life I don’t get that. But I do know people do it. I just can’t do it myself. I want good energy around me good people not ones that betray your trust.

    • Rhonda!!! Yes! I waitressed when I was in college and the restaurant was very social. I had friends, neighbors, relatives dropping in every day!! I probably wouldn’t have seen half those people nearly as often if I didn’t work there. They felt very comfortable stopping in. I saw people there more than anywhere else. Jodi having people stop by the restaurant to warn her about boyfriends TWICE isn’t a red flag to me at ALL. Waitressing really makes you more available to people I think. And between me and all the other waitresses, waiters, and bartenders, we had ALL sorts of romance drama EVERY single day!!!

      • Yes the restaurant drama is BIG !! lol especially if there is a bar there. I agree with you also you do see people more often as they go out more than stopping by your house for a visit because you work so much anyways an mostly weekends. All that makes sense to me too.

    • Yes! Juan, it’s not unusual at all. In fact, in small social circles, it’s highly likely, in fact. Also, those little girls Travis targeted probably just looooooved to be catty and start high-school BS drama!

  194. jmL
    hypothetically, if ja was lying, would that mean that ja was lying ?

    ie a tautology

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=tautology

    tautology (n.) Look up tautology at Dictionary.com
    1570s, from Late Latin tautologia “representation of the same thing” (c.350), from Greek tautologia, from tautologos “repeating what has been said,” from tauto “the same” + -logos “saying,” related to legein “to say” (see lecture (n.)).

  195. There are goblins in my iPad, or I’m officially certifiable after watching JM….I meant where is he going with this testimony..

    • I have no idea!!! He keeps mischaracterize everything she said and he wants the jury to think that her opinions or expertise of DV is bull, but if that so, then so is HIS domestic violence person (that only has 4years experience over ALV 35+ years).

      How can he sit there and say thay her expertise are NOT good enough because its not a DNA or a computerized test, when HE HIMSELF, is bringing in his OWN wannabe expert? !

      • His rookie expert is allowed to do testing is where I think he was heading. Who knows, he’s too hard to follow.

        • Ok, the one that the laptop got stolen. Isn’t that weird, that the laptop was the only thing stolen from this home? And has there been any updates on that?

  196. Favorate part of the day: Loved when ALV testified to, the ONLY LIAR here (that I found out to be) was TRAVIS ALEXANDER.

    • Me too ! gave me such a happy feeling to know we are not alone an seeing the Real Travis not the painted one by the Prosecutor.

    • HELL YEAH !

      ”
      2 Nephi 9:34
      34 Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell.
      ”
      (Book of Mormon, in txt and epub, courtesy of gutenberg.org)

      • Unless the neck is cut from ear to ear before hand then they will get to go to that celestial thing I think or a purgatory state before that thing they have a strange belief of what heaven is though in my eyes.

        This is why I believe whoever sliced his neck did it to get him to heaven for everyone that truly knew him knew he was not living according to the LDS rules to get to heaven. Spilled blood from atonement would get him there though.

  197. I swear that I saw judge Stevens say “you’re going to have to move on” to Juan after they went to break but film was still rolling

  198. If you go by what Martinez is insinuating with his line of questioning, than all this trial is one big lie and so it really doesnt matter what anyone says.I am crazy or…WTH

  199. Hahaha the moment when the prosecutor cuts ALV saying “Judge there’s no question” and ALV takes a drink saying “right”

  202. Fox News is making fun of JM. I was so brain dead from listening to Kermit, I can’t remember exactly what they said. I will try to catch it again and post it.

    • I don’t envy them one bit! This is all one big mindfuck. If you’ll pardon my French… 😉

      • It’s true though Ashley. That is EXACTLY what Martinez is doing. He’s not bringing anything useful forward, nor is he pointing out anything pertinent that proves his case. He’s just being an abusive asshole.

    • The reality for me is that regardless of how jodi really found out at this point,the piece of shit WAS dating more that she just her, and it appears he’d done so throughout their “relationship” so suck it Juan!

    • You know what I do an I rarely even get headaches so it has to be JM an this constant badgering the witness.

  205. People, apparently there is some issue that ALV is having a with Juror #1. There was a tweet on Wild about trial. I pasted the tweet above. Anyone, know anything about this????

    • How ???? How would that even be possible? ? They’re not support to have contact or talk???

      How?!

      • LC, I am not sure what that means. Someone at the court who is watiching sent that tweet out about 20 min ago. I had also seen JA nudge JW about something just before that tweet went out. They both looked towards their left (jury?).

    • Introspective says:
      April 8, 2013 at 6:00 pm
      Does anyone know about what this means???
      Just saw it on Wild About Trial Tweet:
      Louise Watson‏@ryansmama19903m
      @WildAboutTrial have you heard anything about a problem that ALV is having with juror #1

      WOW!!

      (Is this what you’r talking about?)

        • Also, few minutes ago, defense counsel along with ALV had been asked to go back to chambers. They have since returned to the court. ???

  206. The famous words of Mtz:

    -Do you have a problem with your memory?
    -Objection
    -The Prosecutor
    -The defendant
    -Hypothetically
    -Evidently,
    -Significant,
    -Considered
    -Right
    -Justified
    -Indicated
    -Implied
    -Insinuating
    -Understanding
    -Provided
    -Ma’am I’m not asking you…

    ANYONE GOT MORE? HAHA

  208. I have post tramatic stress from working for
    a hardcore bully celebrity who was abusive
    for 3 years.
    Watching the way JM attacks the witness
    & ALV is not only hard to watch
    but he triggers my PTSD to the point
    where i can feel shooting migranes.

    He is absolutely the most despicable
    human being I have ever had the displeasure
    of experiencing.

    It’s beyond torture.
    I can’t handle anymore for the day
    I choose good energy in my universe
    Watching JM treat people with such
    vile behavior makes me really depressed
    and I don’t think it’s healthy for me
    to watch him anymore.

    I will just rely on everyone’s comments
    this week to give me updates.

    • Josh,

      I am so sorry about your experience. This trial is beyond vile and unruely behavior from JUAN. This judge has no ” balls” to control her courtroom. Maybe that’s because they work for each other as team players. He seems to think he’s the King of Prussia….. you notice he doesn’t have a second hand man on his team…. ONE MAN TEAM, ‘ DON JUAN” ….

      It’s a disgrace to all those involved in this case…… FREE JODI!!!!!!!!!!

      • I’m sorry to hear that too Josh, no one should ever have power /bully over an individual and you’re right FUJuan, he is a one man team. Controlling issues all the way.

    • if it is affecting you this way, by all means….walk away.

      I must be a masochist, because he is inspiring the same reactions in me, I cannot turn away.

      Instead, I turn to drink.

      How many of us will need AA in the future… 😉

    • I Fully Understand Josh,
      I can ot take anymore of it myself.
      It seems just watching it and not being able to do anything but
      walk away is so damn disgusting.

      So uncalled for.
      I feel like I want to do something and can’t.
      I think this is harder for Jodi than when she was up there.

      She has such a heart, it probably hurts watching this badgering.
      This is teaching a lot of people that it’s ok to bully.
      He may want to call it something else, but it’s bullying!

  209. 4/7/2013

    MOT – Motion – Party (001)

    4/8/2013

    NOTE: MOTION TO PRECLUDE; ANY AND ALL EVIDENCE RELATED ANY WEIGHT ASSESSMENTS OR TESTING ON SHELVING AT PLACE OF DEATH

    4/7/2013

    MOT – Motion – Party (001)

    4/8/2013

    NOTE: MOTION FOR MISTRIAL ; INABILITY TO PROVIDE EFFECTIVE ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL DUE TO PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT

      • The judge has not made a ruling. ABC news is reporting that the defense filed this motion. In the motion the defense claims that on March 5 the prosecution did testing on the shelving unit

    • The inablility to provide effective counsel could lead to a new trial. Saw this in the Cynthia Summers case where her attorney filed an appeal for her after her conviction. He went into court and basically said he didn’t do a good job as her attorney and she ended up with her conviction overturned and a new trial. She ended up with the charges being dismissed when the new trial showed the evidence was highly contaminated.

  211. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Valerie pokes her head out and asks for the defense counsel to come back to chambers including #JodiArias and Alyce.

  212. I just read a tweet that Jodi, Nurmi, JW, Alyce, and the court reporter went back to judge’s chambers.

    • They were only in there for about 5 minutes. They’re back in the courtroom again.

    • I thought maybe my feed was broke! But, it’s just the usual I see…..Hmmmmmm, surprise surprise!

  214. Can you imagine the jurors when the judge instructed them that there will be no court on 4/22? I’m sure they are wondering if this trial is ever going to end.

  215. Changed myself to TB1 from TB when I noticed someone else is posting as TB and I don’t want to be confused with some one else

  216. WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

    Defense, #JodiArias and Alyce just came back out. So did Mike B, he is setting up his machine up front again.

  222. Frick he is an ass. He has no evidence so all he can do is try and make the jury think AL is biased.

  225. It’s taught by parents, Mr. Martinez, to apologize when appropriate. YOU were not taught this obviously.

  226. Oh Lordy – now here comes the book buying! He really doesn’t have anything.

  227. Not the f**king books again.

    It makes perfect sense to apologize in the way LV is laying it out.

  229. She didn’t apologize for what happened to her. She apologized for reading her journals and emails!!!!!!! What a bag of dicks!!!!!!!!!

  231. No dick face, she apologized to jodi for reading her private thoughts, she is human and understood how completely mortifying it would be to have that happen to anyone. If my private thoughts or things I did became public I probably wouldn’t have any friends left! Asshole. Jodi has absolutely no privacy anywhere, close up photographs of her genitals are on the web. I can’t stomach him.

  234. Jodi’s childhood friend is going to be on Dr Droopy tonight? So now her friends are on the media train? Good Grief!

      • That’s for sure! He just wants to go on and on and on hoping the witness will answer the way he wants….ugh!

  236. excellent response to his bs line of accusations!! Its her job to determine how she establishes rapport, you stupid little creep!

  237. It’s about RESPECT!Freaking respect of individuals,Martinez.And I loved it how she said”regardless of what they’re accused of”.There’s no point in trying to explain that however.

  240. wtf is this manic midget getting at?

    nothing?

    I have shook my head so often, I think I may have brain damage.

  242. Grrrrr!!!
    QUIT WASTING OUR TIME MARTINEZ with your irrelevant and manipulative questions!

  243. How does JM know that ALV apologized to Jodi about reading her journals?

  244. JW is going to rip this up on redirect…lmao!! I will make a big bowl of caramel corn for that one!!

  245. He is such an ass!! Why is the judge letting this kind of chyt continue!! Now he’s telling her how to counsel someone!!!!!

  248. Someone laughed out loud in the court room…I paused when I went to the little girls’ room. Must have been 3 min ago I think. Anyone hear that?

    • And on the other site they said court was slightly delayed today because they went over some things..that if anyone laughs out loud they have to leave the courtroom…something due to the laughter last Thursday….

  250. overruled overruled …………… will you stop that same question over over over over ! RULE, for god’s sake!!!!

    • I remember that word being repeated in one of the Exorcist’s scenes!

      • ALV apologized to Jodi for having read her most inner thoughts(diaries)when she met her.ALV argued that she did that in order to build rapport with the defendant.

  257. OMG is he going to accuse her of having feelings for Jodi now?? Is that where he’s going??

  258. Damn it, JM just said something kind of cute to ALV, along the lines of, ‘do you need to make a free flow of expression?’ IMO, part of ALV’s charm is how she offers so much expressive information in her speech, & he hit on that. Well, maybe it is that she is healing him up some!

  260. Omfg! What is his fucking point! I’m about ready to lose my damn mind! Enough already! This man totally has issues with empathetic people, eh?

  263. JW: Objection, your honor, the prosecutor is being a douche bag!

    Judge: Overruled, the prosecutor is a douche bag every day of the week. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

  264. Mr. Martinez, Let us please open up YOUR cranial vault and I am pretty sure we will find NOTHING of any substance whatsoever.

    • she actually said sth out loud(well,not that loud)and then turned to Jennifer.

  267. Anyone else notice that several of us have all used the “F” word several times today? LOL

  268. Isn’t it true that the prosecutor is dysfunctional? It indicates that most people that talk about how smart they are aren’t smart lol

    • Isn’t it true that the prosecutor never has to apology to anyone in life because he is Mr. Perfect o. NOT !

  274. I get my grammer corrected and at time correct. lol What does grammer have to do with self esteem?

  275. I am do glad I get to see my psych doc tomorrow I needs a nice sedative. The booze is fattening! I don’t know how Alyce and poor Jodi, I would be having panic attacks at that table. Does anyone know if she gets anything for anxiety, stress? It’s gotta be horrible.

  280. I think JM has an issue with smart women. He doesn’t want ALV or Jodi to be brighter than he is.

    • In AZ, he *can* go beyond the scope of the direct examination during cross and address anything he feels relevant. I recently learned that. Really strange.

  283. And now I totally understand why my domestic violence therapist said they didn’t actually keep notes of our sessions and only included THE most limited information possible that mainly related to established facts and their diagnostic impressions.

  284. A person with a High IQ, does not mean their self esteem is high. I know Mr Martinez self esteem is to high.

    • Lots of people with genius-level IQs are insecure and suffer from low self-esteem. Then you have JM, the converse, who is not that bright but thinks he hung the moon.

      • The joke of it all is that Einstein never took an IQ test. They didn’t exist back then. People are just assuming his IQ was similar to Bill Gates and Stephen Hawking, but we don’t actually know for sure.

        I have a very high IQ when tested, but I have such low self esteem that it took me 3 tries to find a way to write that which wouldn’t make me sound like a conceited bitch. Still, the only thing I came out of my marriage with that was relatively intact was the fact that I was always considered very intelligent, and the only reason I continue to believe that is because I was told that as a child and somehow, my ex wasn’t quite able to tear that belief apart entirely — although he tried.

    • I’d venture to say that Sylvia Plath had a high IQ. Edgar Allan Poe had a high IQ. I would think that Mozart, Beethoven, etc. did too. None of these were people who are known for having high self-esteem. With genius comes anxiety/depression a lot of the time. JM is a fucking idiot.

      • Kira
        You are right but I wouldn’t make much of that The American IQ test is quite different from the European Beethoven never took IQ test My Father was told he had a very high IQ but he had very low self esteem sometimes People will lie about their IQ due to being insecure it doesn’t mean anything the Prosecutor is trying to use that as an excuse to say Jodi didn’t have low self esteem and actually people who talk about their IQ or exaggerate usually have low self esteem. JM is a major Jerk.

        • I.Q. tests don’t mean much unless you work in special education or in psychology in order to make diagnoses of certain problems.

          • Right but they are not for measuring someones intelligence My Brother has Asperger syndrome, and everyone says he is so brilliant but has an inability to deal with average task.
            He is very emotionally immature.

    • You are right but personally I do not believe in IQ test I think your environment and other factors play a part in your intellectual growth. Intelligence is an ability to see the Truth what ever field that is to create your own. Psychiatrist have proven this. For instance some people are educated into stupidity like JM>

    • Yeah, let’s talk about him signing canes and shit. Does he think he’s going to be famous?

  287. cant wait till this is all over and Jodi is found not guilty. i will be so happy and i will celebrate.

    • Anything that an expert writes down becomes work product and can come in. For example, LV didn’t write a report, as this too would have come in. When I did work for attorneys as an expert, I didn’t take notes or issue a report until after I reviewed verbally with the attorney. This was in the State of Texas. If the information was crucial to their case, I then generated a report.

      Was always very careful.

      If any of you see a psychologist, etc., there notes, if any, are very short and generally wouldn’t make sense to somebody else.

      • Especially in DV therapy. Both therapists and the psychiatrist I saw have made that point as clear as possible to me. I raised concerns about telling them ANYTHING about where I live and work in case that ever became admissible/discoverable as part of the criminal case and divorce case (which would put my life at risk). One therapist showed me her notes to reassure me. She did keep personal notes which were not part of the file, however. Those could not be subpoenaed and were written without specifics as to which client she was discussing.

        I am a little pissed right now that it seems ALV wrote much more complex notes.

  290. OMG, this is becoming such a freaking circus! I am SO tired of listening to JM try to discredit AL.

    I wish someone would do the same thing to him!

  291. Jurors bored apparently… per tweets below.

    WildAboutTrial‏@WildAboutTrial11m
    I still see some notes being taken. Many jurors have their hands resting on their chin. #JodiArias
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    Ali’s Mom….‏@H8Yankees4m
    @WildAboutTrial Do you get the feeling that the jurors are bored?
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    WildAboutTrial‏@WildAboutTrial2m
    @H8Yankees Yes I do.

    • I’m praying JM FINISHES this crap today. He has nothing at all and it’s time to move the frick on.

  292. His point here is to make Jodi look like a weirdo to the jury. He HAS to do this because Travis’s character (which he wanted the jury to believe in) has been basically assassinated during direct . The jury has plenty of ammo to believe that Travis was a womanizer, angry and belittling towards women, and possibly, physically abusive. The doubt has been created. JM’s only hope is to make it seem like Jodi is not the shrinking violet presented in her responses when Travis became angry, and is instead, a conceited weirdo.

    Can any of our therapists tell us more about the MCMI (Is that the right name?) please?

    • MCMI is nice in particular for Axis II issues. I don’t use it often, but they also have some highly specific treatment recommendations that are generated based on the patient’s response patterns.

      I use the PAI most of the time though, as it is easy to administer, reading level is lower, and usually gives me all of the information I need. Cost is another factor at the place I work at.

      If there is the potential for legal issues, I tend to prefer the MMPI due to the strong research background. For general client use, I like the PAI (administration time, client acceptability, reading comprehension, item development, etc.). I am not a fan of the MCMI at all. The psychometric properties are poor (PPP, construct validity, temporal stability). It has shown significant gender bias and overdiagnosis. I like Millon’s conceptualization and description of personality disorders but not his assessment measures.

      • Can you describe a little bit about what the MCMI actually tests for, please?

    • So is this what the “Einstein manifesto” is supposed to be about, then? That she wrote something or other that seems to contradict the belief by the experts she lacks self-esteem?

      And how does this prove premeditation?

  294. is the judge an android for which flores ? has one remote button, which when he presses it, it plays one message
    “overruled !”

  296. In JM, self-esteem is based on how many witnesses and jurors you can confuse and trick in order to obtain a death penalty.

  297. Jennifer just looked at him like, “You arrogant little fucking Prick!” LOLOLOLOL!!!

  298. JM is trying to bring in JA’s manifesto, and defense is objecting (was not something he was allowed to bring in I suppose).

  299. How is it that trial observers can be talking in the courtroom (on both sides)?

    Seems that would be very disruptive to me.

  301. The whole gallery is yawning, and Katie Wick looks like she just licked a wet butthole.

  302. WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 4m
    Juan keeps saying MCI but it’s MCCI. This is not about a bankrupt phone company. #JodiArias

  303. How can the judge sustain and then overrule on the same question? I think she needs her Geritol! LOL

  305. Martinez is such POS that if Jack the Ripper were the defendant I’d hope he got off.

      • I know, right? Scary thought.

        Imagine if Kermit was Jeffrey Dahmer’s prosecutor….the jurors would have been like “Well, maybe if he promises not to kill an 18th person….”

        • Thats SO SAD, that a prosecutor can make a big difference on the outcome of such a serious case, with how he acts and treats people. That should open up questions for whomever is responsible for choosing AZ states prosecutors and Martinez should be disbarred. SERIOUSLY!

  306. How did he get the notes?
    From the sentient computer that crawled away from his expert’s office?

    • More importantly how does he know she apologized to Jodi?

      Were they taping those conversations.

      • AV told him (Juan) during an interview they had. That’s what I thought I heard.

        • He kept using the word “interview”. Why would he have an interview with ALV? Does he mean deposition and he’s just using that word for the sake of the jury who might not know what a depo is?

  307. I had to stop watching during the first recess today. Martinez and his puppet Judge were pissing me off too much.

  310. looks like if jm is overruled on a question, he simply repeats the question and the judge allows it

    • The judge is clearly biased. Any judge that would allow him to ask hypothetical questions and expect her to answer? I know NOTHING about the law but that just seems blatently wrong to me.

      • Me too Bev!!! Thats what im sitting here scratching my head, wondering why n who is getting away with letting it happen? ! What if ALV didn’t want to answer it, I would seriously refuse to answer a lot of Martinez questions.

  311. Fight Night

    Alyce has won all 10 rounds in this fight by having a stiff jab and by great footwork (like a young Ali). Martinez has been swinging widely but doing little damage. Throughout this fight, Martinez has resorted to all the dirty tricks in the fight game but to no avail. A frustrated Martinez has no answer against this crafty fighter who bobs and weaves and smiles as she dances out of danger. Time to hang em up, Juan. A unanimous and VERY entertaining decision – one which should benefit her close fans in attendance.

    • That is right ……….Ms. Alyce floats like a butterfly an Stings like bee !!!!!!!!

  312. JM just wants the Jury to believe that Alyce is only there to get paid an also that she based her whole testimony on only JODI’S story which JM says are LIES……. which is UNTRUE she based it also on Travis’s texts emails an journal so how can it be biased ? it is not she looked at both sides even if one is dead his thumbprint is everywhere on the internet.

    It would not matter if she did not talk to PPL/LEGAL MEMBERS or CHURCH MEMBERS other women as they all have been on tv stating the total opposite of what Travis really was.

    • The whole notion that the experts do it just to get paid is so annoying. It’s a JOB, people need them! Everyone involved in this case in a professional capacity is getting paid…including his expert , I’m sure.

  313. Einstein,manifestos,signing,believing she’ll be famous one day.
    WTF is all that?????
    And both Nurmi&Wilmott look distressed.
    Anyone?

      • I hear you!But Martinez can certainly twist that and make her look bad.

    • It was probably some cockamamie bull crap that TA was pushing her to do to make money (motivational speaker that he was lol) so he could borrow it from her because he was really NOT the well to do guy everyone thought he was. He had to keep up appearances now didn’t he?

  315. I hope this experience inspires Alyce to write a book demonizing Juan and this style of questioning in general.

  317. Here’s what some are thinking abt Ms. K. Candlewick…

    Michael DIFede‏@dirkdiggler12m
    @WildAboutTrial hey so how tall is that babe from dr drews jury?
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    WildAboutTrial‏@WildAboutTrial1m
    @dirkdiggler1 Shes pretty tall. I am 6’1 and shes close. Prob has tall heels on as well.

    BABE!

      • Also, we are not the only ones that noticed it…. ha ha

        WildAboutTrial‏@WildAboutTrial2m
        @BMcfadyen2 The bald patch in his head kind of looked a bit salmon like.

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        @WildAboutTrial @BMcfadyen2 Where’s Ron Popele and his spray for bald patches when we need him??!! #w

    • Some of my guy friends joke about their’s as being a “bird’s nest”…LOL…

    • I noticed his bald spot too, didn’t before the Dye job..wonder if the dye removal process made it more prominent…tomorrow we will have to take notice to see if it has gotten larger 😉

    • Lol!!!! Funny, but I wouldn’t even think about putting my drink/cup iN THAT cup holder!!!

  322. Verb Context Battle

    Overruled…ask those same damn questions again and make sure you keep twisting my verbs around in those sentences….

    We need for the tax payers to feel that they are getting their money’s worth today while you keep wasting time changing my verb context around trying to get me to answer what you want me to say…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2NOav4Xx1c

  323. And, somebody wants to know who ALV is leaving with after court. WHY???

    Cynthia Farrell‏@CindyCinnis4m
    @WildAboutTrial WAT, can you observe who ALV leaves the courthouse/courtroom with today? Where were they sitting in the audience?
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    @CindyCinnis I will keep my eyes open for that.

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  324. I object to the judge misstating the length of break times. I think she needs to be realistic in her estimation capabilities.

    You watch, court will be called for the day!

  325. Jodi’s thoughts just now:

    “I should have never joined this fucking cult.”

  326. Cannot handle this little guy (Juan). His nonsensical prattle is ridiculous and a mockery of what is supposed to be the justice system. He doesn’t make any sense and when witnesses do appropriately answer his crazy questions but he doesn’t like the answer he screams ‘THAT’S NOT WHAT I ASKED YOU MA’AM. IT IS?’ Well yes, it is what you asked. You just didn’t like the answer. This expert is solid like some of you have posted. She’s too much of a machine for this dweebie prosecutor. This guy has issues and is throwing Arizona/Maricopa county into the perpetual light that Arizona is nothing more than a land of dopes and yahoos. And what is wrong with this judge??? The courtroom demands decorum and the little guy has taken it to the mud. It’s unbelievable he’s allowed to conduct himself like such a creep. This judge has lost control of her courtroom as many of them do here in Phoenix.

  327. So if you look at texts on cross examination you will find that JM has broken every rule in the book.

    1. Asking yes or no questions.
    2. Letting the witness explain herself, by giving her room to do so.
    3. Asking the judge to step in for help, which then allows the judge to ask the witness if they can answer the question as asked and allowing the witness to respond no, and then the witness gets to answer the whole question in any case.
    4. Objecting to an answer as being non-responsive, which lets the jury know he didn’t want her to answer some parts of it.
    5. Continuously asking questions that allow the witness to respond in a manner that becomes clear that the prosecutor is trying to slide in bits and pieces out of context.

    The only thing he’s been able to manage so far is somewhat keep himself from yelling.

    • And he is whining so much about it…not his usual style…I think he wants it court recorded to come back later and use it against the DT…

      • STRESS===hair loss…

        BIOTIN===hair growth vitamin…(don’t tell him)

      • TeeHee i think it MUST be exhausting for him and I hope that dang spot expands until there is no hair left at allby the end of this trial! Would serve him right and partally fulfill karmic justice.

    • Al, he can ask for yes/no responses to his questions as long as the question is stated in such a way that it can be answered as yes/no (he doesn’t always do that though). He is supposed to let the witness answer, but he’s also supposed to stop her when she answers beyond the scope of his question. He’s supposed to seek “help” from the judge (by way of objection — non-responsive) if the witness *could* answer his question with a yes/no, and the judge is supposed to determine whether it could be answered as such or not. The best way to do that *is* to ask the witness. So, the judge is handling that correctly. But many of his questions are really not formed correctly, and that’s wherein the problem lies.

      He has a great deal of leeway in his cross in AZ (apparently) for leading questions and questions beyond the scope of direct examination, but I do agree that he’s “sliding in” information and asking out of context questions.

      In many ways though, if he wasn’t so aggressive, he’d be doing a good job, I hate to have to admit. I don’t understand him at all. Some of his questions are really brilliant. His aggression spoils it, along with his dancing all over the place. It’s hard to believe that he’s the greatest prosecutor in AZ and has won almost every case he’s taken to trial. There must be something I don’t know about people who live in that part of the country. Maybe that’s a part of the country with very aggressive people????

    • Al, sounds like the Judge has lost control of the courtroom..at times she looks spacy…I see a mistrial if there is a conviction due to her incompetence…don’t understand why she lets JM ask the same questions almost verbatim over and over and over..

  329. Oh god what is going on now? How come the little shit is introducing new evidence during a cross examination?

        • The defense does not object nearly enough. It is bad enough as it is how much this guy has to be objected against I can see how you would start wondering if you CAN object. I would be questioning myself but they really need to do it every time he opens his mouth. He asks for speculation and he is to introducè evidence that is often irrelevant.

          • Overruled Overruled Overruled is all I hear when JW does object though

          • Nancy, I the defense will counter attack on re-direct on some issues. I think they object to what they feel is improper but if they object to every single thing they don’t agree with, it may seem more important to the jury than it actually is. Let Juan paint himself in a corner and they will show it for what it is on re-direct. Half the time he is so confusing, they might not be quite sure what the hell to object too! 😉 I’m hoping the Jury is as sick and tired of him as we are and confused by him as well! I see NO premeditation in this case proven so far!!

    • He wiggled it in regarding her opinion of Jodi’s self esteem. JW tried to block it but it out there

  330. OMG – this is SO painful!

    This trial is going to go until May or June at this rate.

    And, for the people who bitch about what AL is being paid, they can blame the prosecutor for wasting time asking the same damn questions!

  331. For the love of god…… I wish every single piece of evidence was available for review.

  335. I just got home a short while ago and put on the trial to see what was happening today. It wasn’t long before I had to shut it off and do something relaxing. Then I got on the computer and this site. The unnecessarily aggressive behavior and accusatory tone of voice that JM uses serves the purpose of putting people on the defensive which is what is happening to AL. It is truly a shame that she is needing to defend herself for things she should not have to because of the tactics that this judge is allowing to be used against the defense.

    All I can say is that I would never want to be a witness for the defense in a case in which JM would be the prosecutor. I would either get all messed up and confused and break down crying on the stand or I would verbally attack him with the same kind of mind games he was playing with me and no doubt be held in content of the court. AL is a compassionate, down-to-earth professional who committed no crimes or wrongdoings and it appalls me to see her treated so shabbily in a US court of law.

    • I would have been held in contempt by now. It is appalling how stupid and biased this judge is. Is this the best Phoenix AZ has?

      • Nancy…..I was thinking the same thing about myself. They’d probably be taking me out in handcuffs!!!

        • I would have cussed at him, to be honest. I couldn’t handle this level of aggression for this long.

    • I 2nd that opinion Mattie. Martinez is dispicable. But, Alylce LaViolet is not letting him bully. I think she is a very credible expert.

    • I agree. Alyce doesn’t deserve to be treated like this. And even from a strategy point of view – couldn’t you ask all these same questions (as dumb as they are) with a friendly tone and still get the same affect without looking like a total POS?

        • Her counsel is saying they can’t be effective for her. If the judge doesn’t do anything wont that become an appellate issue?

          • Absolutely, Kimberley, and I can’t believe the AZ Supreme Court (assuming it will go that far) will consider JM’s conduct in the courtroom, posing for fans, and releasing information to the media acceptable.

      • Wow thanks for that info. Am I clear that he was sending emails to witness for Jodi

        • No, I believe it’s referring to the crap that has been done to ALV on Amazon, etc., and emails sent to Dr. S as the motion specifically refers to the “public response”.

          • “As the facts above indicate, counsel for Ms. Arias cannot meet the dictates of these
            guidelines when defense experts are being harassed inside the courtroom by the
            prosecutor and outside the courtroom by those who chose to mimic his behavior in other
            public forums.”

            I’m sooooo glad they brought this out into the light of day. There is absolutely NO reason these witnesses should be harassed, either inside or outside of the court.

      • “… to request that a mistrial be declared based on the prosecutorial misconduct that has infested these proceedings with a level of unfairness that cannot be cured by any other means. Ms. Arias bases this assertion on the fact that the circus like atmosphere inside the courtroom
        that to date has included counsel for the State yelling at witnesses, attacking witnesses on
        a personal level and throwing evidence. Not content with confining his misconduct to
        inside the courtroom counsel for the State, pursuant to his own admissions, chose to
        release evidence that was not coming into evidence at trial to the media and to pose for
        pictures with his so called fans on the courthouse steps has turned what is supposed to be
        a trial … into something that more closely resembles a modern day equivalent to the Salem Witch Trials which ended in 1693.”

        Fighting words!

        “… the State has thrown evidence and his pen, yelled at nearly every witness who took the stand
        in support of Ms. Arias and has hurled personal insults at defense counsel. …the State unapologetically admitted that it had released a plethora of damming evidence that would not otherwise come into trial to the media.

        Note should also be made of the fact that the conduct described above has
        ramifications that effect the ability of Ms. Arias to present her defense as the public
        response to this unprofessional conduct has involved berating witnesses via e-mail,
        telephone and in various internet forums. Said action has not only caused personal
        distress to these witnesses but has made it difficult for them to provide effective
        testimony for Ms. Arias.”

        They covered it all, everything that is being done to the experts. Good for them!

        I bet that’s why ALV was in chambers this morning.

        • Thanks AA for posting those. yes, they covered everything we’ve been complaining about all weekend. Even saying the haters are mimicking Juan Martinez in their berating of the witnesses. And I was sad to read that it’s caused the witnesses distress. I truly can’t believe this.

          • Good for Nurmi though!! Why does he always have to be the one to point out the obvious? The judge should have put a stop to all this a long time ago!!! And I swear, if I see that sister of Travis roll her eyes one more time… Someone should tell her that her face will freeze that way.

            • Exactly I can’t hold much empathy for the family due to the faces an the absolute drama they cause an make sure they make eye contact with jurors right after they do this. I have seen them do that look right over to the jurors after this dramatic look they do. Seriously makes me sick.

          • I would call it what it is, “Witness Intimidation” because that is exactly what these minions have done.

      • AA…although I do not know the law..but what I understood after reading this…..that judge better be doing something and fast…..what do you think???????????

        • Cindy, the motion stopped short of saying it (which is not unusual as a motion is usually a brief outline), but it’s making it very clear that the witnesses are willing to testify to what has been done to them on a personal and professional level outside of court, and also, how JM’s aggression is making them feel. Those are some very serious accusations and we know that the personal and professional harassment can easily be proven by simply taking one quick look at Amazon or BN’s websites.

          His conduct offends me personally, but trying to think of this in a legal mindset, I’m actually not sure the defense can prove how this has affected the witnesses’ ability to provide effective testimony and therefore, the only remedy is a mistrial. ALV has handled herself very well on the stand in spite of all of the above. I don’t think this is enough to warrant a mistrial. But I think, on appeal, it will be looked at negatively that the judge didn’t step in earlier when JM’s misconduct began and warn him. I could be wrong on this though.

          • Thank you AA for posting this. Although I didn’t start watching the trial until about the time that Jodi was testifying, this HAS been a circus!
            As a survivor and former counselor for DV and rape crisis; watching this prosecutor has actually given me nightmares! And his treatment of Alyce is unforgivable!! She IS and will ALWAYS BE a HERO to our movement-those brainwashed by the State and the unrelenting biased media, should be ASHAMED of themselves!!
            I’m not usually the type to get into trials or media circuses-but my health hasn’t been good, so I’ve spent time researching this case, reading comments here-and getting VERY ANGRY at this total mockery of our system of so-called “justice”!!
            UN-Freaking-Believable!!

              • While I do find her testimony and her work with victims incredible, I actually wish that she didn’t work with batterers. The percentage of them willing to change is incredibly low, and it seems she could help so many more victims with that time.

                Then again, I’m effing BIASED to the hilt against abusers and I readily admit it!

            • You said what has been brewing inside of me for a long time, Lainey. It is distressing to see such nonsense and I have always hoped/prayed that something good comes of this. Shining the light on these antics and having it affect the trial would be a start to shedding light on the ugly, un-justice system.

        • geeze…KN not KM..brain dead from the trial today…can’t wait for tomorrow, lol! O.o

    • I’m glad they use the phrase”circus-like atmosphere”
      It’s what we have been saying here,too!

    • If you watched the mock trial on HLN Vinnie Politan….one night they did a closet re-enactment with one them trying to reach for the gun at the top of the shelves…they elaborated on their negative comments while in the closet…

      This probably gave the state the idea to make a picture of the closet at this late date…the state is swayed by the media too????

      So the sneaky state went and made a picture of the shelves on March 5, 2013…they took measurements of the closet and took pictures of the shelves which includes an image of someone “placing weight on and/or lifting up one of the shelves that is now situated within the closet…

      • I think it was Mike Brooks of HLN who actually stood on the shelf (he’s a big guy too) and the shelves were stable with his weight and height..and the mock up is supposedly to “spec” of TA’s home…also it was interesting when the “verdict” came in Ryan was going to each “juror” (it was 10 against Jodi and 2 pro-Jodi) he went around and talked to all but the 2 pro-Jodi,until one of the commentators reminded Ryan to talk to them as well. That show is a joke and very biased…I havn’t watched “after dark” after that..very telling.

        • Thanks Lynn…you are right…it was Mike Brooks…

          I’ve developed a foggy feeling in my memory after today’s court from hearing the same question over and over and over again…LOL…

  339. i wounder what is going on now. before i noticed nermy looking at someone or something in the in the direction of the jury box and then wanted to approach. i wounder if the is another problem with a juror

  340. JM: And in terms of, Judge can we do that other thing that we talked about earlier?

    Judge Idiot: Yes, we will take the evening break.

    WTF was that? Why in thee hell did he even bother starting the next question?

    Those two are so in cahoots it’s not even funny anymore!

    I loathe the both of them entirely!

    • I know! It’s like there’s no cohesion nor coherence in his mind.

  341. This judge still has not ruled on JM and his prosecutorial misconduct from February (I think).

    She needs to get her act together.

  342. Did I hear JM say murder instead of killing? And he then apologized real quick. Is he allowed to use murder?

  344. Sorry re-post from other Day 42 page…..

    So I am new to the site (for comment purposes), but I have been reading others’ comments and catching up on the trial. Great site – BTW! I am actually pre-law and had toyed with the idea of pursuing being a prosecutor after law school. That being said, JM’s behavior makes me embarrassed for the profession as a whole. When I first started watching the trial, I was turned off by his rudeness – even with his OWN witnesses. Now that we have spiraled into this ludicrous Snow White crap, I find it appalling that the judge is letting this showboating drag on. I can only imagine that at least one of the jurors is being completely turned off to JM’s demeanor and nitpicking of the minutia. If the damn case is so strong against Jodi, then why in God’s creation is he asking these stupid, stupid questions?? If one has any intellect at all, then it is clear that he is trying to obfuscate the actual facts of the case in an effort to confuse everyone (witnesses, the jury, hell – the judge) using very circular reasoning. I have not watched today’s footage yet, but Alyce Laviolette was awesome on the part of cross that I saw last week. I almost think that JM identifies with TA’s abusive behavior, because even from a layperson’s perspective, JM exhibits many abusive tendencies – in a public setting – in a public trial. Can you imagine his behavior in private?? I also see narcissistic tendencies in referring to himself as “the prosecutor” all the time… WTH. Even if Jodi was guilty of 1st degree murder (which I do NOT believe) JM would lose this case with his demeanor. I am just waiting for AL to come back and say to him, “You do realize you’re a pathetic douchebag with small man syndrome, RIGHT??” … Grrrr

  346. I hate to see a mistrial, she will wait forever for a new trial. But, whatever’s best for her.

    • I hope it happens. I think it has gone way out of hand. Then perhaps there will be some kind of plea deal.

  347. A juror probably tried to commit suicide during Juan’s mind numbing cross. If I had to sit there, trapped, hour after hour listening to his drivel I’d be tempted so please leave no ropes or sharp objects within juror’s reach. I had to turn it off halfway when he was still trying to trip Ms AV up on some inane piece of bullshit paper having to do with her being a speaker. I shaved my legs for this?? He is probably the type of man that ejaculates before he unzips his pants then screams at his partner. My apologies but I CAN’T HELP but vent somewhere!! I don’t want a mistrial declared because I feel he is losing bigtime! Just have it on record that he has behaved inappropriately.

    • I dont want a mistrial either.Martinez didnt have a premeditated case right from the start!He blew it big time,trying to prove sth that cannot be proven.I will only settle for an aquittal and nothing short of that!!

      • Me too Acquittal !! mistrial an do over ! NO WAY not unless Jose Baez is there on a new trial.

        • I’d love to see an acquittal too. If they go the plea deal route, I’d like to see nothing more than manslaughter.

  348. Gee Martinez, and what does that make YOUR opinion? It couldn’t possibly be SUBJECTIVE would it, considering you have ZERO proof of premeditation.

  349. Sorry, I’m listening to HLN to see what they say regarding the manifesto. JVM said, signed her diary pages.

  351. If JM was a waiter, he’d be like…

    “Ma’am, how would you like your eggs? scrambled, over easy, or sunny side up, YES OR NO!!?

  352. judge go get learned up some more about objections
    nb what the prosecution wants is not the same as how you should rule

    those people on your left are meant to be included also

    ignore them and rule according to the law

    maybe another judge can help you, tonight

    looks like there’s a slew of them
    maybe even one good one, cause it’s arizona ?
    http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/JudicialBiographies/judicialList.asp?title=1

    here’s part of her bio
    http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/JudicialBiographies/Judges/judicialBio.asp?jdgID=105&jdgUSID=217

  355. Okay. I had shut off Martinez’s rants some time ago. What in the heck is the “Einstein manifesto”?

  356. So let me get this straight. Dr Samuels puts Jodi’s results into a computer, Juan objects that it cannot be a valid result. Ms Violette cannot put Jodi’s situation into a computer, therefore it is not valid.

    Which method is valid Martinez??

  357. Also Abused, thanks again for posting those. So that must be what this morning’s hour+ meeting was about. Poor Alyce Laviolette!!! If WE saw all that nasty stuff on Amazon and everywhere else, imagine what she heard on her voicemail and what faxes and stuff she got. I don’t know if they managed to get hold of her e-mail address.

    I wonder if Nurmi is aware that there were actual threats of violence.

    • Trying-
      I have been posting on as many on line book sales sites and making complaints about the book review sections being used as a smear campaign against Ms. L. The remarks made to my posts from the “Crazy Cult Members” are heinous and I’m not a witness. The vile remarks made about Ms. L. are…well there are no words to desribe just how vile they are.

      I’m glad I have been on this site for quite some time, and became educated about the Mormon cult by other posters (ie: Oliverio), because now I realize where these crazies come from and how deeply rooted their hatred and vileness is. It is clear the cult is alive and well and thier followers are out to do as much harm as possible to anyone who wishes to provide any truth and justice.

      As much as I would hate to see a mistrial, I am beginning to think that in order for Jodi to have any semblence of a fair trial, it would have to be moved out of Mormon territory and some serious sanctions would have to be handed down to HLN.

      I just don’t know what to make of all of this anymore….far too insane for words.

      • TR
        I agree they have descended on Amazon Book Review and a Friend of mine responded and received
        TONS of Hate mail from this cult so he complained to amazon. They are notorious for covering up and receive plenty of cover from media etc.

  358. I think Jodi making the Einstein comment and the signed manifesto is really dumb. BUT, that doesn’t mean she committed a pre meditated murder. I’ve said and done dumb shit too. Lets move on to what’s important.

    • Someone clarify this whole Einstein thing please. I was unable to watch the trail. Now I am confused What was said exactly?

        • Oh good grief. So she exaggerated. Who cares? She may have been joking and now it is being taken out of context.

          I have a good friend that jokes around all the time about how awesome they are. We all know it’s a joke, and we all love this friend very much!

          • Or that just because she felt confident about her intelligence level does not indicate to me that she didn’t have low self-esteem in other areas of her life. That phenomenon, I don’t think, is uncommon at all. There was a time in my life that the only things I felt confident about were my ability to do well in school and afterwards my value in my profession. For a time there, I thought I totally sucked in other areas of my life and had very poor self-esteem. Doesn’t seem strange to me at all.

              • I was very offended today when JM brought up low self-esteem and correcting grammar..I grew up with DV as a child and had self-esteem issues (and sometimes still do) BUT my Mother recovering from getting the sH## beat out of her and raising 3 girls after her divorce still managed to correct our grammar and taught us to speak well…that is something that rubbed off on myself as well, and I passed that on to my Son. and friends and still do that to this day! .I thought you dumb-ass, how dare you spew out things that are incorrect and make no sense….He has no frickin clue..

            • Ha ha – thanks for saying that. I know exactly how you feel! We have to pat ourselves on the back sometimes so we can try to maintain some amount of confidence to move forward in this world.

      • ALV made a note when interviewing Jodi that Jodi was excited to have an IQ test performed because she thought her level of intelligence was in line with Einstein’s, or words to that effect, and that the IQ test would support her notion. JM was trying to prove that because of that statement, Jodi does not suffer from low self-esteem. ALV pointed out that just because someone has confidence or feels good about theirself in one aspect of life does not mean that they don’t suffer from low self-esteem in other areas of their life. She also pointed out that Jodi made that statement after she had been in jail for awhile.

        • There are a lot of highly intelligent people who have a low self-esteem.

          Your alleged I.Q. has no bearing on your emotional state.

      • JM said something like this: Jodi thinks she is smarter than anybody, and thinks her IQ is as high or higher than Einstien. Evidentally, Jodi likes to know her IQ score when she takes so of these clinicial test. So much so that she asked her friend Amy to print out her manifesto so she could sign them, incase she would become famous something. JM point is, this shows high self esteem. This is what I gleaned from it..not much.

        One day she smarter than Rainman, the next day they present her stupid enough to steal her grandfather;s gun, on and on and screw up so many things in this premed. plan.

  360. If we can’t rely on the writings, then why did you use them during your cross examination, Martinez?

    And he has the gall to talk about bias. He’s about as biased as a broken teeter totter.

  361. Does Nancy Grace ever speak the truth? Now she’s saying that Alyce LaViolette admitted that Jodi Arias lied about everything she told her, making her evaluation “totally worthless!”

    • Nancy Grace is just a liar and crap stirrer. She’s just chasing the money and HLN is stupid enough to give it to her. HLN’s ratings will probably take a nosedive after this trial because they have turned a lot of the public opinion against them.

      • She actually has a blurb up saying, “Defense witness screams at prosecutor: I am not a liar!” And she says Martinez is “slicing her up.” My husband asked, “What is she watching?”

      • Of course not. Everything that is on HLN is the exact opposite of what is going on in the trial.

        Pravda couldn’t have done a better job with propaganda.

    • I absolutely REFUSE to watch that woman. The ONLY other case I followed at all, was Casey Anthony-another young lady who was-and still is- being railroaded by “trial in the media”.
      WTF is WRONG with this country that claims “truth and justice”, and then takes defendants, “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY”, CONVICTS THEM through media speculation and bias, whipping the steeple public into a frenzy bent on ruining everyone connected to the “INNOCENT” (UNTIL PROVEN guilty)??!!
      JUSTICE??!! I think NOT!!
      And that rat-faced MIDGET needs to go crawl into his old books on ETHICS and get the fuck OUT of the courtroom!!!
      AAAAGGGHHHH!!!

  362. Why is HLN the only channel on television that covers this trial? I would much rather listen to a screaming, in-heat cat at 3am, than watch any more of Ms. Piggy. She states that she loves to find out the truth, but if the truth happens to be against anything she believes actually happened, she doesn’t want anything to do with it. I am so tired of hearing these biast HLN people and all of the nonsense that spews from their mouths!!

    For the record, I wish that someone would question the relationship between Frog Man and this damn judge. All she ever says is “overruled”.

    Jodi is NOT getting a fair trial. This is crap.

  363. the odds are judge will not declare a mistrial but the defense is building an appeal case, which is a win win for jodi, if she is acquitted game over if not there are appeal-able issues. lets not forget as someone posted a couple days ago, something like 80% or murder one convictions in AZ. are over turned. and i can see why

  364. SJ- I sent you an email just a few minutes ago that may be important info. I wanted to post here that I emailed you in case there were any problems.

    • He won’t be around for a while so if you don’t here from him don’t worry.

      • Ok. Is there anyone else I can email? There is some information floating online that could be damaging to this website and admins…

        • From where? I don’t see anything out there of note doing a Google search. Are you referring to the FB sites?

          • It was on twitter, but not directly searchable because of a “twitlonger” link. I found it by browsing the #jodiarias hashtag, then seeing it on someone’s page.

            • I believe I found what you are hinting at.

              This is an outrageous violation of privacy.

                • If it is what Rachel is hinting at, it isn’t what they are saying, but the person was revealing what should be confidential information about donors to this site.

              • So…what’s the status on this? I’m concerned because this is the only website I feel safe in posting.

                • So far, nothing. The YouTube is giving out information about the proprietor on this site and of at least one donor.

                  It seems this batshit insanity knows no ends.

        • Rachel….

          Why not just post the links….there are lots of well educated professional people on this website who can post a comment pertaining to what you found…

        • That would tie somewhat into the Twitter info.

          This is just outrageous. I hope SJ gets both things taken down.

          • He needs to report the Twitter page and the YouTube page and have both taken down.

              • I hope SJ has access to a lawyer. He’s going to need it.

                It’s a hell of a note in this country that you are not allowed to have a different opinion about a murder trial without having your own livelihood and even life at risk.

                I directly blame the media for this, with 48 Hours having not done their journalistic job in reporting the case clear back in 2009. They took everything at face value and didn’t question the narrative. HLN has done a million times worse damage here to the Bill of Rights.

                I had trolls come on my blog with their b.s. talking points, but I moderate my site, so none of those comments ever see the light of day. They aren’t going to shut me up.

              • The person that owns that domain has got some nerve talking trash about someone cashing in when that site has Google adsense ads. Hmmmm?

        • I am speaking as his friend and not for him. I know my friend, care for him and this slander and libel saddens me. He has gone above and beyond being a good friend to me with no ulterior motives.

          Consider the motives of the sources, I always do. We have known for quite some time that he would be slandered if he refused to stop writing. We were made aware of this months ago.

          I know he wants us to ignore it. The site is for Jodi as is Casey’s site. He has never wanted the site to be about him as that would contradict what we do here. I would ask that you email him if you are the least bit concerned. I’m not.

          We have too many readers that will further exploit anything said. I’m removing the link as well. We all know here that this has been at ongoing attempt to silence us and make this site go away leaving us without a place to share.

          Thanks.

          • JC-
            I’m not sure exactly what site you are referring to, when you talk about the slander., as there are so many. I will say again, I would in fact donate money to keep this site going no matter what the freaks say to stop it! As a society, we cannot let lunatics stop the fight for truth and justice.

            Please keep up the good work SJ and Team Jodi.

            • The site will never go down! I was addressing slander posted about SJ. I didn’t do that great of job a communicating. They won’t stop us from supporting jodi, writing about this case, and speaking out for domestic violence 🙂 As long as it takes too. “We are titanium“.

              I’m bulletproof, nothing to lose
              fire away, fire away
              ricochet, you take your aim
              fire away, fire away
              you shoot me down, but I won’t fall
              I am titanium
              you shoot me down, but I won’t fall
              I am titanium

              That’s all of us.

              credit: DAVID GUETTA – TITANIUM LYRICS

              • JC-
                I think you communicated just fine, I thinks it’s my communication that is lacking….time for bed:) You are all “titanium” and I appreciate all that you do. I can only imagine it will get worse before it’s over. I’ve been called terrible things by complete strangers for simply giving a positive book review and pointing out that the negative reviews were slanderous and nothing more than a poorly orchestrated smear campaing.

                Glad you will all be here for a long time!

        • Truthseeker,

          I posted the response below. Thanks for the link. I need to remove it as it’s slander and libel and not what we want to focus on.

  365. Here’s the thing – Alyce did not draw this conclusion just out of nowhere. She is basing her opinion on what Travis left behind after he died.

    If we’re going to ignore what Travis did in this case, then we are going down a slippery slope of ignoring the behavior of other abusers in court, whose victims didn’t make it out alive as Jodi did.

    So this case is setting a very terrible precedent for victim’s rights.

    • You are so right MB. Martinez has already set us back with his mocking of domestic violence and battered woman syndrome not being in the DSM IV. So by his statement, it isn’t credible.

      That man hates women, he certainly doesn’t have any respect for them, that much is very evident.

    • I think he has been doing that, didnt he say something to Alyce about battered woman is not in the dsm? It came off like that is some throw away term that it didnt mean anything.

    • MB,
      Yes you are so right and all of the “so-called” women’s advocates.
      I don’t ever want to hear them again.
      They are such f’n hypocrites and a menace to society.

  366. chris hughes was in court today he and his wife don’t want you to know what really happened in travis house this was planed and if a mistrial happens then they can breath a little more till the evidence shows they had the motive remember the jack off travis with the pictures who do you think they were they have 3 sons

      • I agree all of those PPL an Church friends would lie just for image sake. Under oath that
        is no big deal to them. Someone said what about purgery ? how often do they even
        enforce that rule?

        • I don’t think they take the laws of the U.S. seriously anyway – Mormons always had the idea that there laws were more important.

    • What do you mean, Tonya? I’m not following you on why the Hugheses would want a mistrial.

  367. Vinnie Potty!!
    WTF.
    He’s so anal about Jodi and her glasses.
    Seriously, Look she has them on, now off,
    Someone said she drove for hours without them,
    So what’s with the glasses.
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME??
    What a FW!!
    NOW he say’s she has a stack of papers and say’s wonder what’s with that???

    DO WHAT???
    I’m happy that Jodi can keep this ass clown entertained. Geeeeeze

    • I can’t stand Vinnie P at all. I drove a long time before I finally had to renew my license
      an found out then I needed glasses for distance I knew it was kind of blurry but could
      squint an see ok far off. But just like Jodi said I too tried on a friends pair before an was
      like wow crap I need glasses but no money at the time to go do that right away.

      Those people all live in a freaking fairy tale land I guess. Some of us are not so privileged
      in life to run to the doctor or eye doctor or dentist every few months for a freaking check
      up. People like them probably go for a freaking sneeze.

      • Rhonda,
        It’s crazy,
        Everything that I do wih my glasses, Jodi and the rest of them in the court room do too.
        If he would look when she was arrested, she had them on then and that sure as hell wasn’t to
        make her anything that she was.
        There was no jury!

        Yep, VP makes me sick. Maybe he needs some excitement or something.
        Him and Ryan Smith and the rest of those puppets just get wide eyed thinking Jodi could get the DP.
        Something is very wrong with them.

        I know, I shouldn’t watch HLN. like Al said, but I can watch it with my husband then.
        But they’ve really pushed the envelope by running it into JVM, NG, DD,. That’s where my limits stop.
        I’m going to have to watch it on the internet or wait and wait it on You Tube.

        • Yes I too was watching HLN a lot an then stopped an I forgot why it was when they were all lying an cutting an editing the Zimmerman 911 call an they got caught too. So I stopped watching it for awhile. Then they did start back for a little while on the lost children or adults for a little while. So I watched again an then this trial started an I had to stop again because they make me so upset by the outright bashing an lying. I do flip through every once in awhile now if I can’t get the live stream to work now though but it truly gives me a headache.

          I am very thankful for this site an the people here so we can at least see an know we are not alone.

          There are people that can think out side the box an not listen at all to the HLN JUNK NEWS shows. Or we can listen but we know how they lie an twist it up just like JM does.

          • So very true. I watch HLN all the time for this case, just to be amazed at how horrible they are. Sure, they get my ratings, but I’m fairly sure they won’t be around that long. Announcers are pitiful at best

      • I have reading glasses that I use because in my young age I cant read the small print anymore. I just got them a week or so ago. I guess its called being far sighted because I could read a sign two blocks away with no problem. I have had my eyes checked and I have 20/20 vision but either they print smaller on bottles and things or I need another eye exam.
        My son saw me wearing them the other night and he laughed and said whats up with that? I said I can’t see fine print anymore!
        It really shows how far away from any serious facts or truths we have gotten because the focus is now on glasses, bangs, I even saw someone yelling she has a french manicure. I think it’s just her nails are growing and the tips tend to look white when your nails are longer. Its so silly but so sad because this is about Jodi’s life. Jodi told two lies after the death of Travis. She has admitted to those lies. Travis was a liar of epic proportions but all of that is being overlooked and I ask why? Because he is dead all of his sins lies and disgusting acts are now ever to be spoken of again?
        I’m rambling I need dinner so back in a bit.

      • Exactly my thoughts!! how does VP know if Jodi needs glasses??? Maybe she didn’t have insurance and couldn’t get them!!! They just need something to keep the hate going no matter how stupid or incorrect it is!!!

    • Seriously! Yes, TA is dead & that is sad, but it did happen 4 years ago. Meanwhile, a dad just cut his 3 kids throats with premeditation last week. All the murders that have occurred in this country in the last 4 years! But the death of TA is so much more important that details of Jodi’s basic behavior in the courtroom matters more to VP than any other current court cases or killings.

      • Yes that is so true according to those shows that is all that happened. When I used to go to the pages on FB I would see people begging them to look into this case or that case or a lost child or lost adult but they sure do not do it anymore it is really sad they are so one tracked when other people really need some help on things.

  368. Big deal on the Einstein thing. She is an intelligent woman but chose poorly in her love life. It happens. And if they gave Nancy Grace a test she’d have to cheat to qualify as the village idiot. I, personally, have negated anything she’s ever said. It’s in my ‘less than totally worthless’ pile.

    • Nancy Grace thinks Einstein is a German beer mug and that a law school degree is valid online.

  369. ARIZONA’S DEATH PENALTY
    PROBLEMS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
    As a society, we must do all we can to ensure a fair and accurate system for every person who faces the death penalty. When a life is at stake, there simply is no room for error or injustice. In 2006, the Arizona Death Penalty Assessment Team, working with the American Bar Association, found that Arizona’s death penalty is plagued with serious problems. The team recommended a number of reforms that would help to improve the fairness and accuracy of the system. Until these reforms are implemented, the ABA urges that Arizona impose a temporary moratorium on executions.
    1.
    ALL POOR DEFENDANTS RECEIVE COMPETENT LAWYERS AT EVERY STAGE OF THE CAPITAL PROCESS.
    In the United States, criminal defendants who are poor are entitled to attorneys. Arizona’s system does not ensure, however, that poor defendants on trial for their lives will receive a competent one. Arizona’s various indigent defense services combine to form a mixed and uneven system that lacks oversight and fails to provide uniform, quality representation to indigent defendants in all capital proceedings. The State’s failure to provide statewide oversight of its indigent defense system (with the exception of the newly formed state capital post-conviction public defender office) leads to a system in which fairness and accuracy breakdowns are not only possible, but likely. Even worse, Arizona has not even conducted the research necessary to identify the scope of the problem, no less identify solutions. As a first step, Arizona should conduct a study of Maricopa County’s four indigent defense offices to determine if the apparent discrepancies in average expenditures on capital cases are problematic and signal differences in the quality of representation.
    2. ARIZONA SHOULD PROTECT INNOCENT DEATH ROW INMATES BY PROVIDING ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR AND OVERSIGHT OF CRIME LABS AND FORENSIC INVESTIGATIONS.
    Crime labs and forensic investigations should be adequately funded so that biological evidence may be tested quickly and accurate determinations as to likely guilt or innocence may be made as early in the investigation process as possible. In addition, to further ensure the reliability and credibility of crime labs and to minimize the risk that wrongful convictions occur, Arizona should create an independent agency to oversee its crime laboratories.
    3. ARIZONA SHOULD PROTECT AGAINST ARBIRARINESS IN CAPITAL SENTENCING.
    Ensuring proportionality is the best way to protect against arbitrariness in capital sentencing. Currently, however, Arizona does not have adequate safeguards in place to ensure that the system is proportional. The Arizona Death Penalty Assessment Team believes that a capital case review committee housed in the Arizona Prosecuting Attorneys’ Advisory Council should exercise final discretion as to whether the death penalty should be sought. The County Attorney may choose not to seek death, but if s/he wants capital charges to be filed, a
    capital case review committee must make the final decision as to the appropriateness of capital charges.
    Alternatively, the Arizona Supreme Court should conduct a comparative proportionality review during the direct appeal stage of capital cases in which it compares the death sentence under review with sentences imposed on similarly situated defendants. This sort of review should compare the case under consideration to similar cases in which (1) death was imposed, (2) death was sought but not imposed, and (3) death could have been sought but was not.
    Furthermore, unless and until the Arizona Prosecuting Attorneys’ Advisory Council creates the capital case review committee recommended above, Arizona should require that all prosecuting agencies involved in capital case prosecutions have written policies for identifying cases in which to seek the death penalty. As recommended by the Arizona Capital Case Commission, these policies should require the solicitation or acceptance of defense input before deciding whether or not to seek the death penalty.
    4. ARIZONA SHOULD COLLECT AND ANALYZE THE DATA THAT IS NECESSARY TO DETERMINE WHETHER ITS DEATH PENALTY SYSTEM IS FAIR AND ACCURATE.
    Pursuant to the Arizona Capital Case Commission recommendation about the importance of continued data collection, the State of Arizona should establish and fund a clearinghouse to collect data on first-degree murder cases. At a minimum, this clearinghouse should collect data on each county’s provisions of defense services in these cases. Relevant information on all death-eligible cases should be made available to the Arizona Supreme Court for use in any proportionality review it may conduct.
    Additionally, Arizona should provide funding for the completion and public release of a study of the administration of its death penalty system to determine the existence or non-existence of unacceptable disparities, socio-economic, racial, geographic, or otherwise.
    5. ARIZONA SHOULD EFFECTIVELY LIMIT ITS “ESPECIALLY HEINOUS, ATROCIOUS, OR
    DEPRAVED” AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCE.
    An ambiguous, overly broad aggravating circumstance can lead to arbitrariness in capital sentencing. In 2002, the Arizona Capital Case Commission expressed concerns regarding the ambiguity of the (F)(6) statutory aggravating circumstance (a murder committed in an “especially cruel, heinous or depraved manner”), but no changes have been made yet. Given the inherent vagueness of this aggravating circumstance and the possibility of overuse, it is of utmost importance that Arizona adopts a uniform and specific definition of this aggravating circumstance when instructing jurors during the aggravation phase of a capital trial.
    For more information, contact: The American Bar Association Death Penalty Moratorium Implementation Project ·
    202/662-1030 · moratorium@abanet.org · http://www.abanet.org/moratorium

  370. Nancy Grace had the male therapist from LA shrinks, on the E! Or Bravo network, they were talking about someone in the courtroom was pointing and then pretending they were smoothing their hair, IDK who they were talking about. But, if you ever watched that show, I don’t know why he would be on there.

    • They were talking about Ms. Willmott (Jodi’s attorney). Some caller said she was sending signals to Ms. LaViolette. Nancy Grace “found the clip.”

  371. Just something I was thinking about today when Ms B posted the Alexander clan’s history.

    Travis’ father didn’t exactly give his kids a stable mother figure. He was married three times, and had six kids by two different women (at least). One relationship that we know of is due to a possible affair while being married to a previous spouse. Not exactly the most responsible role model for fatherhood, reproduction and relationships.

    I wonder if this has anything to do with Travis’ pathological womanizing.

    • could be MB…along with what someone posted a while back about his relationship with his drug addicted parents…it was said that he had problems especially with his mother as a child during his early years…I believe that information was originally on wikipedia too about Travis until they changed it up and deleted a lot of the original content.

      • His mother may have had issues. But in the end, it was his father who chose to bed down and make children with her, and who chose to marry those women who influenced his kids’ life. His father had equal responsibility and culpability for the physical and mental health of the children he brought into the world.

    • I believe that most of his problems have to do with his childhood traumas fueled by the narcissism he was born with.Lethal combination resulting in a dangerous person,TA.

    • Very true…. plus we don’t know how the drugs has affected each child.

      do they have issues with drugs themselves: hmmmm , we know that two of the children did
      do they exhibit violence …… we saw this in TA
      are they co-dependent…. I would assume YES to this
      do they suffer adbandoment issues ? I would guess YES
      do they have relationships issues? Yes….

      This list is endless.

    • Yes, MB. That could be. And his parents had very violent fights too. I believe that’s written on his blog. So it all makes me wonder. I’m not without real sympathy for him, but I wish the prosecution would just admit that Travis really was abusive.

  372. I know a girl right now that her husband has been choking her. Her son got taken away because of it. She has not told anyone. Matter of fact, she lifts him up on FB about how he is the greatest husband.

    • Unfortunately, that sounds all too familiar. It took me almost 6yrs, and yes, part of the time I was “propping him up”-in between being thrown down stairs, face bashed into Murrow, etc. and I’ve got the scars to prove it.
      But my DV counselor at the time, (who my ex had threatened to kill more than once), told me that once I followed through with the divorce paperwork-all HELL would break loose. Especially with his brother being the Sherriff, another brother an attorney with ties to family court, a sister in hospital admin, (my medical documentation was “unavailable” for court), and his Dad was a renowned instructor at FSU College of Law, (did “continuing education with the Judges), and he was also the co-founder of FDLE. (Florida dept of law enforcement-Florida’s version of FBI).
      She, my counselor, was right. I got screwed, he got everything, and kidnapped my kids. It was, and still is a nightmare.

      • I’m soooo sorry Lainey, and so sorry that you had to deal with the Floriduh family court madness too. It’s THE worst effing state in the country for DV victims.

        Did you ever manage to get your kids back? I do believe that when they reach a certain age, they will realize what happened.

        I’m so so so sorry.

        • AA, “when they reach a certain age…”-yea, that’s what my counselors told me & what I would tell my clients. But their father and his family so completely brainwashed my kids…and now? Their father passed away 2yrs ago-my daughter, (who he sexually touched-and admitted to it), has a picture of her & her dad on Facebook-one reason I’m not there anymore.
          It’s still a mess with my kids-and not made any easier that my parents, (where I apparently learned to live with abuse. My mother hasn’t spoken to me in years-she says I’m not human, wished I was born dead..just really “lovely” social-climbing bitch ashamed that I was born with a genetic disorder-or “grossly deformed” as she would tell my teachers & friends. (Only thing visibly different with me, and my son-we don’t have fingernails or kneecaps). Anyways-my kids get constant reinforcement from my parents that I’m a horrible, worthless person. I also live over a thousand miles away now-I HAD to get away-my mother tried to kill me.
          There’s not anything else I can do. My former DV counselor, now a well-known DV attorney-has tried to talk to my kids. But “he” and “his” family so completely brainwashed my kids over 6 years-AND, of course, the fact that their father wasn’t arrested, (he came back to the states once for his Dads funeral-believe me, NO ONE in LE was going to arrest him at his dads funeral-hell, most LE, judges, FDLE were THERE!!)

          • Oh sweetie, that made me cry to read. How absolutely and utterly dreadful for you. All our stories are just dreadful, unthinkable. The damage they do to lives! Good grief.

            I have an evil mother as well. I think she’s still alive but she lives another continent away, thankfully. I also moved over 1000 miles from Floriduh and never ever want to return to that state.

            I’m so sorry for all that you’ve been through.

            • It’s nice to be among others. Rat-face reminds me of my ex’s first attorney-with one major exception: during and after our session in chambers, she found out her “client” was a lieing creep who’s sister had been in a relationship with the parental evaluator, was engaged to him AND another man, and that the PE lied-that he’d never even come up to see the house we were living in, nor had he spoken to the kids schools, teachers or counselors-which is why she-the attorney-had been able to stop OUR witnesses from testifyingthat I had paid to get them to go down & testify. Anyways, shortly after the hearing-after the attorney’s had stayed in chambers for awhile-the PE came out with a beet red face, (big sister broke off engagement that night-shocker, huh?), and HIS nasty, bulldog attorney came out & threw the stacks of folders at my ex, told him he was “fired”, (and he said-exactly-” who cares you ugly dyke, I got what I wanted”), and in TEARS came to me and apologized. She said if she could undo it-she would, that she had “no choice”.
              The PE lost his job as evaluator & guardian. He HAD been one of the most respected men in town.
              Anyways-glad you got out of floriDUH too. Yea, the “good ole boys” have a hold down there-money & connections talk-and bullshit happens. And, I actually had connections with the PDept-problem was, none of my friends there had any say so in the courts-it was all the corrupt Sherrifs dept. (PD DID help with my parents though!)
              Another example of corruption? Just before all hell broke loose-about 3 years before above hearing, my ex’s brother had been “demoted” to school resource officer because he got “a little rough” with his girlfriend & PD officers that responded. My eldest went to that school & one Fri night Uncle M showed up at a party, drunk, with a 17yo, (he was about 28-30). He was put on desk duty until he was elected-because of his Dad, to Sherriff.
              Lovely family.
              I’m glad it sounds like you’re now in a good relationship-I wish you ALL the best!!
              I’m over 50 & after my childhood & two abusive marriages, I’ve decided that being single is the BEST thing I can continue to do for myself!! Besides, lol, with all my health problems, the LAST thing I need is a relationship!!
              Me and my Sita, (my feline mistress), are happy as we are!! Besides, I’ve got her so spoiled shed probably attack anyone I dared get lovey dovey with!!

          • Lainey
            So very sorry that you have had to go through that. Never give up on your children. I think you will be surprised one day, when they come back to you and say they know what their father and the family are really all about. Time does have a way of changing things that we never think possible.

            • I keep hoping. Despite everything, my son and I, I thought, always had a special bond. We’re the only 2 people in the world who have this mutation of the NPS Gene(nail-Patella Syndrome. It’s normally dominant genetically, but there’s no history on either side of my parents families going back like 16generations. Lol, I know bc my Dads youngest Sis converted to Mormonism & has been busy baptizing relatives!! 😉 )
              Anyways, my son isn’t doing too well. His dad was a drunk & loved cocaine, plus a major liar. Unfortunately, it appears my Son is heading that way. He’s been promising to come see me for 4-5 years-since his Dad & Step-mother left him, at 18, in Guam to fend for himself. They offered to take him with them-he said he just wanted to see me. Then he got into drugs, kept dropping classes, lied about a job-and is still doing all the above, staying with his step-mothers family in Colorado-where he can stay high all day if he wants-and he seems to. I txt him, but he hasn’t called.
              My daughter HAS walked in my steps as far as she’s a Paramedic, bridging to her RN & thinking of Med School. But she rarely calls & got angry with me the last time we spoke because she said she hasn’t had a period in a year, “so I’m not worried about getting pregnant-besides, I don’t want kids”. She’s married. All I did was-well first, told her not having a period does NOT mean you can’t get pregnant-I hadn’t had a period in two years & found out I was pregnant. And yes, I WAS shocked she didn’t want kids-she was the kind of girl who was always playing with the young kids, offering to babysit for everyone…and talking about having ten kids. She wouldn’t tell me why but her big sister said its because she doesn’t want to put any kids through what she went through.
              Anyways, I keep hoping & praying, but they know I’m in bad health. In the hospital sometimes twice a month. I haven’t talked to my son in about 3 months, my daughters 2 months. :(. I love them with all my heart, but I can’t force them to love me.

      • Sorry for what you have been through, that’s horrible. Keep yourself healthy and strong. Many blessings to you

    • I did the same thing about mine and had a folder full of pictures of him/us titled “My gorgeous husband.” That makes me so ill right now.

  374. Dr.drew is saying someone from his show saw ALV approach the Alexander family, and this witness from his show ran up to them and told them to tell the court and they have done so?? Hmmm wondering if it was Katie. Gonna watch and see if he says who it was.

    • I used to like and have respect for him. Now I can’t even refer to him as Dr. I agree with Lyndsay Lohan when she said, “”I thought REAL doctors talked to patients in offices behind closed doors.”

  375. Wow I just looked up what crime NG was a victim of since she brings it up again and again. I realize Wikipedia may not be completely accurate but it sure is not very flattering to NG. Mentions of prosecutorial misconduct and mishandled interviews are very disturbing. It’s only a matter of time until her big mouth gets her into trouble she will not easily get out of. I just wonder, in the death of her fiance, if incompetent investigations by the police pointed to her as a suspect, wouldn’t she have wanted a vigorous defence?

    • Yes Bev, and at least two of her guests committed suicide right after going on her show. The families sued Nancy Grace, and Nancy Grace just shrugged it off and said they must have been guilty if they committed suicide.

      She also brought her cameras into the room in AZ where prisoners on death row are put to death. I would bet anything she begged the state of Arizona to let her air an execution live. She’s a sick woman.

      I can’t believe she’s still on the air.

      • Yes she really is sick and has no conscience. I think the death penalty is barbaric and if used at all should only be used for the most dire of cases. I think it reduces us to the level of the murderer. NG is obviously delusional if she can read all the negative things that are written about her and still continue on the path she is on.

        I think the entire HLN staff are so blatently biased, they can’t even try to hide their excitement about a possible guilty verdict. They don’t even care how that verdict is achieved, even if it’s because jurors were swayed by something they might have seen on their network. It’s sickening.

  376. keep your chins up. It ain’t over till its over!Go Alyce, go, she is doing a wonderful job in standing up.

  377. SJ or any admins I have the motions awaiting moderation that were put to the court today and yesterday

  378. Am I missing something? I think Alice is very much holding her own and often making JM look like a proper idiot. Maybe I’m biased or something but I think shes very calm, cool and collected. I only WISH I had her guts!

    • I agree Alyce is doing just fine. JM is frustrated that is clear he does not do well with people that do not back down or let him put words in their mouths. Prosecutor Failed today. My opinion though.

      • I agree. I think Alyce is doing very well, not letting Juan M. put words in her mouth or imply anything that isn’t true. But it must be tough work. He’s such an asshole. I hope she’s able to relax tonight with a good meal and maybe a glass of wine or two. I actually thought Jodi did very well on the stand up against him too. He was trying so hard to twist her words or get her to admit she said something she didn’t say. And all the haters and all of HLN kept calling her a brat and obstinate and on and on… I love that Alyce said plainly, “do you want yes or no, or do you want the truth?”

        • I agree Jodi did an incredible job. I would have been a sobbing ball of jelly. I am not very assertive and I would not do well in that situation at all. (Guess I better obey the law) lol.

    • Alyce held her own today, but with all the hate that has been directed at her, it has rattled her. And rightly so. Who expects to have to face that because they testify in a trial? I don’t think she ever expected this, who would?

      Who expects to get threats of violence, have their book on amazon and b&n totally annihilated with hate, and anyone who dares to post something positive is attacked. They hit her from every direction, poor woman, I bet if she knew back when she agreed to give her expert opinion, what she knows now she would have declined. And that is what is going to happen, any high profile cases, experts seeing this will back away, and can we really blame them?

      And it has not let up at all, if anything it is escalating.

      • I’m sorry, but I think this Judge is either bought & owned by Arizona’s private prison system or she’s sleeping with the rat-faced midget….
        What has been happening to the defense witnesses in this case is an OUTRAGE!!
        And I swear, last week when rat-face was proving how much he knew about Dopey, getting his rocks off thinking about an “abused” Snow White; I wanted to jump through the TV and ask the Judge if she had ANY idea WTF she was doing with all the “over-ruled”s!!
        SHE is in charge of this courtroom and overall trial, and while I would NEVER normally say this: those attorney’s on GOPTV,..uhm, I mean fox, were RIGHT!! She has LOST CONTROL of her court & this trial!!
        (Sorry about the political reference-I don’t want to start any OT arguments-it’s my own personal opinion)

        • It’s insanity! As my husband said tonight, the judge has no control of her court and this trial is being run by the Jodi haters now.

          I thought witness intimidation was illegal, and something the courts took seriously…shows what I know.

      • I totally agree, Gail. I thought it was bad what they were doing to Dr. Samuels, but Alyce has it way worse, I think. 🙁

        • She does, and yes, it HAS to be “illegal” what these people are doing to Alyce! Isn’t there ANYTHING the defense, or even us, (and yes, THANK YOU folks for reporting the reviews!!), can do?? I mean, I understand its not the rat-faced midget doing it-as far as all the demeaning & hating outside the trial-he should be BARRED, or maybe DIS-barred, until he learns a few things about Ethics!! What about complaining to the Bar about rat-face? As far as Alyce, I really wish we COULD do something-she does NOT deserve this hate!!

    • Alyce is doing really well. JM is coming off like a dick who’s being rude for no reason. I really don’t think he likes women very much and he has no respect for psychology at all. He’s a very narrow-minded little man who isn’t half as smart as he thinks he is.

      I really hope he gets a losing verdict. I will relish the screenshot of his face.

  379. Hello everyone!
    I’m a new poster here, long time lurker! JM is a total lunatic! I know it’s been said, but I am so frustrated that I had to get it out! Many Casey Anthony Jurors thought Jeff Ashton was an asshole, this jury must think JM is the anti_christ! He is waisting everyone’s time and that cannot be lost on this jury! Dude, make your point and STFU!!!

    Ahhh… now I feel better! 😉

  380. http://www.recurrentdepression.com/site/more/210/

    I find it incompetent that Mr. Martinez would not check out his facts, before making broad statements, to discredit a witness on a point that is pointless…..

    Not to mention all the most notable brilliant minds that have suffered from mental illness/ depression/low self esteem.

  381. Juan Martinez is not doing a good job of cross. Here is a really good explanation from the Texas Trial Association that shows Martinez is violating practically EVERY tenet of proper cross-examination
    For instance:
    “Television, movies, and, unfortunately, some trial skill programs in law school have
    encouraged trial lawyers to fall back on the command “just answer my question yes or no” as a
    method of controlling the runaway witness. This is not a valid controlling technique. First, most
    judges will not permit the lawyer to do that. Most judges will inform the witness that they may
    explain their answer, at length if necessary.”

    Time for the judge to start DOING her JOB!
    http://tinyurl.com/cr9486l
    This will open to a .pdf

  382. After today it is sad to say,but the judge is sucking short jaun dongs tinny prick.It is evident that she is helping the prosucuter big time.When J.W. objected twice to judge pickles and first it’s sustained then after the same question it’s overruled,it’s either the judge is high or playing with J.M. after hours.Notice when they started today that the judge would ask the defence if there were any objections.She did this like two three times.Did she give hell to the defence in chambers?This is the most stupid trail I’ve seen in all my years .This has to stop,and the judge and the prosocuter have to go to jail.WHILE WERE ON THE SUBJECT OF FANTASY<SNOW WHITE,J.R.ON DALLAS WOULD PUT THEM ALL TO SHAME IF HE WERE ALIVE.OH MY GOD,AM I GOING TO MARTINEZ LAND?I'M TALKING FANTASCY.I CAN'T EVEN SPELL.,I NEED A DRINK .

  383. Damn.

    This trial.

    Taking over my life.

    This I know, because both laptops, my tablet, and both smartphones are being used round the clock researching this case, while “real life” keeps trying to interrupt.

    Damn you, real life.

    • Oh so true!!! I get about 5hrs of sleep each night bcuz I am catching up on the trial footage that I missed during the day! I’m either watching the trial or reading th site in my every free moment! I even read the site on my phone when I take a bath! Lol!

      • LOL I am obsessed with the trial as well. I listen to the live stream while I’m at work, and when I’m on my breaks and at home, I try to read the comments on here. It takes quite a while because there are so many. 😛 This has become my daily routine now, so I don’t know what I will do when the trial is over. Then again, I’m also ready for it to come to a close so we can get a verdict. Although, the verdict does scare me a little because you just never really know what the outcome is going to be.

  384. AA,

    Further to your info about the surrebuttal.

    If the judge were to actually allow in this stuff about the shelves wouldn’t it almost mandate a surrebuttal? If allowed in the judge must give the defense a chance to have their own experts test the shelves and then also put on that evidence. The only way they could do this would be to test the shelves themselves.That would involve getting in someone who could create a valid test (This putting weight on a shelf doesn’t make sens to me) and then conduct the test. This would then be the guy who would be able to testify in rebuttal of the State’s case. They might also need an expert to testify about the impact an extra 5 years has on wood, and the pegs etc.

    I wonder what Dr DeMartes will testify to. Since if she goes across a rebuttal line won’t that open up the surrebuttal again?

    • Why are they doing this with the shelves? I did watch-(a few weeks ago when I was trying to make sense of what was going on)-one of the HLN shows where a lady bigger than Jodi was able to lift herself up for a few seconds-plenty long enough to get the gun.
      Also, I have a bookcase with those pegs-plastic-I’ve used the second shelf to lift myself up to dust a bunch of times!! Although I’m only 5’3, 115lbs now-I wasn’t last year!! (Graves Disease is one of my latest diagnosis’) I was over 150 & did it all the time!!

    • Back to my own life experiences here. I’ve assembled and took apart shelving, some of the board fit tight and it would take a hammer to get them unlodged, others slip in and out easly. This a total waste of time!

    • Good points, Al. I think you might be right about the shelves, but that would be IF the defense wanted to call their own expert. I think this is kind of a moot point in the whole thing though. It really doesn’t further the state’s case of premeditation or Jodi’s self-defense. But it’s one of those things JM likes to do, isn’t it?

      Dr. D, I’m not so sure about. I think she’ll be pretty careful in her testimony to merely rebut the points made by Dr. S and ALV. I don’t think she’s going to say anything revolutionary like “I diagnose Jodi with psychopathy.” I don’t think JM would want the jury thinking Jodi has a valid mental disorder because jurors typically don’t like to put people to death then — although who knows about jurors in AZ?

  385. Hi all, I’m new, but I think my comments get lost in the THOUSANDS that have been posted. I think this is wonderful that we can come here and have sane conversations. I noticed there are other survivors here too. I’m sure they’re feeling the same as I am about this mockery of justice and that rat-faced midget, (no offense to non-JM midgets).
    I was in the ER this afternoon, (unfortunately, my second home these days), and missed the proceedings. I’m just not in the mood too turn on plastic NG or any of the other goons on HLN. Since I slept most of the day, (before & during ER lol, at least I can finally sleep in there-instead of wanting to jump in and know what’s going on with everyone else so I can help!). Along with being a former Counselor, I was an RN/Paramedic for 25years. Old habits die hard. 😉
    Anyways, anyone know when today’s session will be posted?

  386. And it just gets “curiouser and curiouser,” my friends. Now Dr. Drew’s group is saying Alyce LaViolette is becoming aggressive and condescending with Martinez AND that she spoke to Travis Alexander’s sisters…and has been reported to the judge.

    • Oh for gods sake…. It was probably that scary looking sister that approached ALYCE!!
      Drew needs to go back to “playing” doctor and quit helping to make a complete mockery of our justice system…

      • Everything that is down is up, and everything that is up is down.

        It’s totally at odds with reality.

    • Alyce is condescending? Because she stands up for herself against the tool prosecutor who is the epitome of condescending? Screw that! I admire her for not sitting there and being like “Thank you, sir, may I have another?” Respect begets respect and vice-versa. JM deserves no respect because he treats witnesses like trash.

  388. Well gee Martinez, there’s a lot of different ways you could argue this case, WITHOUT harming victims of rape and violence; but you haven’t have you?

  390. Nancy Grace:

    (holding ear)

    “this just in, I’m fat and what I’m saying is stupid”

    (looking at camera, confused)

    “What I just heard was that I’m fat and stupid, that obviously came straight from Jodi Arias. How she hacked into my fake earpiece, we all have no idea”

    (looking as dumb and confused as is typical, really pressing fingers to ear now)

    “She says my voice sounds like great danes farting with marbles in their asses”

    (Pointing to cameraman)

    “This is HLN, commercial you dickhead. The ratio is ten minutes of commercials to one minute of airtime.”

    • LMAO!!
      “But, but, IM A VICTIM!! Isn’t anyone hearing me?? I’m a victim!!! And I have THOUSANDS of years of experience under my belt, so don’t you question MY theories!!”-PlasticNG

    • OMG!!! Thank you Thank you. That gave me a huge belly laugh…. especially the marbles bit!

    • I dont even think its a big deal. I know he wants to make it a hig deal, so that people can hate her more and convict het. But really, Martinez, it DOESN’T prove premeditation, at all!!!!

      • Exactly. I think he just happenedto seize upon that word manifesto in the upper left hand corner of the so-called important page and TRY to twist that one word into making it LOOK to tbe jury as if Jodi is some terrorist nutjob like that mass shooter from Norway or the unibomber, etc….
        Not sure WHAT this is actually about, but have a feeling hes just grasping at straws and trying to mske sumptin outta nuttin, his typical MO, so far. Guy is about as useful as a gossip is all, tiny little stud-man rock star firecracker messiah-liar that he IS. Grrrr.

  394. I can’t ever watch HLN I am forced when my computer crashes during the day but I feel so much better.
    I sent tons of complaints to Amazon so I think it died down NOT Sure. This is awful I have never in my life seen such a concentrated effort by the media social media to corrupt a legal proceeding This must be worse then the Sam Sheppard Trial since they had no social media then, But I am surprised That the Judge is oblivious to the rights of the defendant or even protecting the witnesses such as Alyce LaViolette.

    • It makes you wonder if the judge bothers much with television or the internet at all.

      She may be too busy for both.

      It’s clearly an organized attempt to silence people or to create a lynch mob mentality, and it is horrible to see.

      A dictator could easily sway people like this who have no capability of analyzing this case or other matters and silence all opposition.

      What we have now is a propaganda network, HLN, which is trying to stir up a lynch mob purely for ratings.

      • Yep Entertainment Joke News Channel an you know exactly who watches it religiously as they will state word for word what the Propaganda pushers say an it makes me so disgusted that people actually believe that crap.

        Without going out here on the web an doing a little investigation of their own they could see for themselves just by looking at one page Travis Alexanders My Space page tells a story of a man that is nothing like what the PPL/ LEGAL SHEILD friends say or the LDS Church friends say. An Jodi is in his TOP NUMBER UNO SPOT.

        For those that do not know on My Space you put your TOP FRIENDS in what order you want them in. An if you forgot when they broke up an she moved they both changed the passwords because he was so insecure about that stuff they had to give each other the passwords. An I do believe that as my daughter has a boyfriend like that now an I told her that was NUTS if you do not trust each other over a social network you have big problems.

        An who is too say he does not have a secret account under a alias where you chit chat an carry on with other women under cover? common sense some have it some do not.

        Another thing one day they were saying you can not backspace that arrow an go to a email that is left open or FB or MY SPACE. I beg to differ I do it all the time on here. You have to LOG OFF to shut it down.

      • Has my heart rate up again, as I watch what I missed today!!
        Lol, I went to the ER today-well, my landlord/friend, bless her, called EMS on me again bc I was white as a sheet & refusing to get bloodwork done until *i* could get my HCT up. (Bleeding ulcers). I also have Graves Disease-I hate that word!-and my pulse stays way up, >100. I have medicine, but if I take it as prescribed, I sleep 20hrs/day!. Anyways, I knew I was anemic, but the Doc, a friend of mine, wanted to know WTF I was doing to get my pulse up to 140.
        I WAS going to tell her I was watching HLN this morning before they came to get me. But, well, lets just say there have been comments even here in a local rag when a local guy did a good editorial on this case.
        Something is SO wrong with our society with these people who seem thrilled with the DP, and go as far as the haters have in this case.
        Sad. 🙁

  396. nasty nancy has clancy talbort on her show talking bad about jodi and telling the world to give money to the alexander family and to top it off with a photo of travis with a woman and chris and sky hughes hummm

    • They’re not getting a penny from me. No one’s forcing ALL of them to sit there day after day instead of taking turns and earning an income.

  397. clancy talbort is on the flores report just above chris and sky hughes again lets tell the world she needs to die to shut her up poor jodi i feel so sorry you ever met these people. at least you had the forthought not to go 4 wheeling in utah and camping for if you did they would have killed you.

  399. patty go to the top return to the top of the page see below then go past the two photo and click on latest news that takes you to the comment in the morning

  400. I just wanted SJ and JC and whomever the other people are behind the site to know “I LOVE YOU!!!”

    (Ok, maybe “love” is a bit strong….lol)

  401. Does anyone remember what day the “penis sneak in” photo happened or even who was testifying that day? I know I watched that before but just don’t have recollection of when it was in the trial or even who was on the stand. Not that I want to see the penis again thank you very much. I’m just looking back at various times when the prosecution was hiding things.

    • do you mean “red pecker”, or something else?

      Oh wait, the computer expert accidental penis show?

    • Say WHAT??!! Boy I missed some things in my research!! And WHAT a thing to miss!!

      I’ve been celibate far too long…… 😉

    • Lonnie Dworkin was flashing the pic LOL I remember that I was DYIN!
      He had no idea he was flashing it for the world to see.

  403. My brain is so fried after today. This trial is making me ill. I just cannot believe the underhanded stuff that goes on. This kind of stuff is only supposed to happen in bad made for TV movies. JM is the most unlikable, abusive, unprofessional little person, I can’t even call him a man that I have seen. I liked how someone described him earlier as a ferret on steroids! I’ve had contact with the legal system being a witness for the prosecution when I was being stalked, and it is so horrifying to me the way he acts. It’s just sickening. The judge, I still just do not understand that lady. It is a free for all for the prosecution. She just doesn’t seem aware of what’s going on. She just doesn’t seem to have the backbone to go against JM. Maybe she’s afraid mighty ferret will attack her. He just bullies everyone in that courtroom, except of course ALV, I just wish she had a rubber ball to ping off his forehead. Is it bad that I secretly hope he will trip over his own feet and fall on his face? I don’t wish him any harm just something to at least give me a little satisfaction. Even he has diarrhea and has to run from the courtroom with his hand clutching his ass. I can only hope.

    • “Bad made for TV movies”
      Well we do not need Rob Lowe or any other second chance actors to play out of work JUan Martinez…. Because no one has figured out what the hell kind of movie it will be.
      Will it be a drama? Probably not too many actors could “overact the prosecutor”
      A comedy? No-the only thing funny about this has been Juan’s bad hair colour.
      A twist on a Disney classic? I think the Snow White thing is done now…unless JUan has a thing for ARiel.
      I have a feeling that some day this will become a classroom exhibit on how NOT to prosecute a murder case. They will show clips of him shooting spittle across the courtroom ,throwing evidence,badgering witness’ and of course the biggest example of a courtroom NONO….using fairy tales as examples,and loosing track of what it is one is really trying to say.
      May he find fame as the “do not” example for years to come in law classes across the land.

  404. Everyday i come to this site and read the comments left by all of you. The kind words of love and encouragement… People fighting for the freedom of a woman that they dont know. You all have wonderful hearts… If you follow the trial and read true information. Then you will get a pretty clear idea of who she is. She is a woman that wanted what all women want and too often we find women that has been treated like her. Such a shame…

  405. I just love coming here!! I just love how you ALL see why Jodi defended herself. I still am not convinced she did ALL of the killling. I am just glad there is somwhere to go where everyone is not anti-Jodi:)

    • I was going to post something similar, kind of like an online support group-in comments, for each other, Jodi, and the the whole defense team.
      When I first started looking into this case & watching the trial, I saw some of those “other” sites. I’ve never seen such vile hatred, such disrespect for our supposed “Justice” system. It was depressing & angering.
      This site is different, and special. I’m glad I quit just “lurking” and “came in to sit down for a bit”,..with my chai and sane conversation.
      After watching that rabid rat-face, we need this. Thanks all for welcoming me & everyone else!

    • she did not kill him she said she did she is protecting her family she changed after learing about ashley thompson reed death and something bad must have happend to matt macartney

  406. This is the part of the day I retire with a box of sour patch kids and an I Love Lucy episode! 🙂

  407. Didn’t get to see the trial today. But after reading the posts/comments, I must wonder what does Jodi having said she has a high I.Q. have to do with her being a victim of DV? DV does not recognize a person’s I.Q.. And apparently JM doesn’t recognize DV and the fact that he is like the very slime (i.e.,…TA) that he is trying to paint as a saint. BTW, my I.Q. was tested as being 209 and I was and still am somewhat shy and self-effacing.

    • IQ score of 209??? Wow. I am not saying I don’t believe you, I have just never met someone who tested at 209. Thats VERY high.

      The point JM was (trying) to make to ALV, was that Jodi was not suffering from low self esteem as she had testified prior.In ALV’s notes she had written that Jodi had no self esteem issues or something similar to that, and he also based that on her comment that she was excited to take the IQ test as she said she thought she would test as high as Einstein. He said that comment didn’t fit a person with low self esteem, as well as the autographing copies of her manifesto. (journal)

    • Martinez was trying to imply that if one has a high IQ, than clearly they shouldn’t have low self esteem. Apparently Jodi has a high IQ. I posted this earlier: http://www.recurrentdepression.com/site/more/210/

      I find it incompetent that Mr. Martinez would not check out his facts, before making broad statements, to discredit a witness on a point that is pointless…..

      Not to mention all the most notable brilliant minds that have suffered from mental illness/ depression/low self esteem

    • Agreed. Both my 2nd husband & I were in Mensa. Both of us had very low self-esteem, (which is why we married each other-he was my knight in shining armour after a very physically & emotionally DV situation-and I was his 4th wife-“a ride and sex”-before he went hunting for #’s 5 & 6. Lol!!).
      But no, IQ & self-esteem are completely unrelated-in fact if anything, I’ve never seen such a group of insecure-NICE, but insecure and uncomfortable sociably, as the folks I met at a Mensa meeting!!
      I felt like I was in a 12-step meeting, “Hi, I’m joe blow, and my IQ is high”
      “Welcome joe blow”
      “I have a confession to make group, I, I, I…I didn’t read the latest book on quantum mechanics, I lied!!”
      “Gasp” from crowd
      “But we agreed joe, it was the book of the week, why read & comprehended it in 2 days!! What is wrong with you?!”
      “I, I, I,…I got caught up in Our D & D game and writing code for a new level of Microsoft flight sim…”
      (Note: this was in about ’95. 99% of the people at these meetings, ate, slept, woke & drank computer code)
      “Self-esteem”?

  408. man drew had a woman on that knew jodi and again with her eyes she looked like she was reading a script. hate HLN

      • I am sorry, I have hard time believing anyone on HLN that trashes Jodi because I am beginning to get the idea that anyone who claims to have known Jodi can get on HLN, get 15 minutes of fame, simply by trashing her.

        • Yepp,
          people come out of the woodwork to talk about someone in a high profile case like this. Even of they only met once for 10 minutes, suddenly they are an expert on that persons life and personality. Its for the limelight and it’s nuts. Common, but nuts.

  409. drew also had the wantabe jurier the blonde talk about jodi looking at the travis family sure did not mention the chris hughes was siting between the sisters that jack ass is going to get his oneday then talked like well she never looks at her mom or aunt more bull shit hate them dont want to watch them but learn how is trying to keep the public from finding out the truth

  410. Admin, Found this: The manifesto attributed to Arias was not entered into evidence Monday. The contents of it remain unclear. The Huffington Post has filed an official request with the prosecutor’s office for a copy of the manifesto, but an official there said it could take some time for the request to be approved.
    “In light of the prosecutor’s ethical duties under ER 3.6, the State is seeking guidance from the Court on the nature and degree to which future public records requests could or should be fulfilled for the duration of the trial. Accordingly, the County Attorney’s Office will cease fulfilling public records requests for materials in this case until such determination is made. While County Attorney Bill Montgomery fully respects the fundamental rights of a free press in our community, he is equally compelled to ensure a fair trial for Ms. Arias and any other defendant in similar circumstances. We’ll follow up with you when we get a ruling and let you know what we’re able to release,” Maricopa County Attorney’s Office spokesman Jerry Cobb told HuffPost.

      • I don’t believe a mistrial will be granted. I totally understand why they filed for one, and believe it is mostly for appellate reasons. But IMHO, I think it will be denied. And I really hope it is.

      • Even if its not a mistrial, this case has SO many appellate issues its crazy!!
        But I agree with what one person said here-Arizona, especially that area, has a very high LDS population. I find it hard to believe that Jodi could EVER get a fair trial-even if the jury pool was as tainted as this one may be.
        QUESTION: does anyone know if, and how many, LDS/Mormon’s are on THIS jury?

        Good grief!! TA’s sister looks like a bad copy of Morticia from The Addams Family!! Creepy!!

          • She is pretty in a really different way. She doesn’t look like the rest of the siblings.

        • Seriously, IF the Mormon Church was supporting the Alexander family. They would NOT be needing to raise money!! No, TA is an abomination against all that the LDS community holds sacred. They probably feel sorry for HER and the men on the Jury, if they are Mormon, IMO are thinking of their daughters and sisters with that pig TA.

          • EXACTLY what I thought Rhonda-just didnt want to say it. Didnt I read somewhere that TS’s siblings had drug problems-used to at least?

        • I worried about that too the Mormon’s on the Jury there has to be a few. The detective is one Flores I thought someone said he was Catholic but Jodi said somewhere in notes or her journal I read it that he is LDS. I lived in Phoenix off of Indian School Road mostly with Mexican Catholics an never met a Mormon/LDS person so I am assuming most the LDS are in the suburbs.

        • I don’t think anyone knows how many jury members are Mormon. I think from the juror questions for Jodi ,my guess would be at least 1 or 2.

    • Too little, too late! They sure didn’t hesitate to release the video interrogations of Jodi’s parents last week and pictures. Tonight they had “NEW” never before crime scene photos on Nancy Grace. The testimony was still on and they cut the video and put a picture up of the shower while viewers could hear Alyce testifying.

      That is just so low of Nancy, but then why should I be surprised. Ugh!

      • I know it was so wrong of me to post that, I just really couldn’t resist. I keep reading people’s posts with the word “minions” and this song is all I can think about….

  412. Yay Alyce V. your books on Amazon are on back order with hard copies going for 100 bucks. Soft copies $90, These jerks slamming her are only creating a waiting list for her wonderful books and I couldn’t be happier. She will be around for a long long time. No career end-er here! She testifies mainly for the prosecution, so she must really believe Jodi and all the EVIDENCE that points to Jodi being abused, ALV will have a long and lustrous career. Thank you haters for making this wonderful woman wealthy. Also, you gay bas-hers, didn’t you hear she is a single mother. What difference does it make? Love is love but i just wanted to point that out. BTW, my mother always wore her hair is a short pixie. She was hot tamale. Juan is the woman bashing lady hater. Bite her ass JM, you low life scum sucking dredge. After this JM, you will be prosecuting DUI’s or worse, parking tickets. I heard McDonalds is hiring.

    • All the haters who tried to boycott her book, ended up making it more popular!? ahahaha! Gotta love the irony.

      I’m certainly going to buy one now. The hardcopy, of course. heheh.

    • I’m going to buy her book too. Bought Jose’s and it was an amazing read. I’ll do my part to combat the unnecessary hate.

  413. where do you see that she has gotten a fair trial first the crime took place in travis’s home and we have the word of zac the roommate that only 5 people were in the house for 5 days while travis was in the shower the smell in the home then before the police arive everyone is saying jodi did it. then you have poor ashley thompson reed dead ??? dustin thompson every one wants to kill her in the travis group of friends then they go on HLN you tell me there is not one jurior that has not watched tv and will say what year do they think they live in 1800 when all they had was a candles lets not forget how she wanted to protect her loved ones from harm of the 2 or others that threaten her. lets not forget the flores report and gee everyone in utah knew about everything before flores did. and for gods sake let not forget chris and sky hughes and the millions they have to hush up and put out untruths and dave hall.with his videos of the assult rifel and all the guns that is just part of it there is a hell of a lot more and be it will take the FBI to get to the bottom of it. well my last post before bed will she you in court tomorrow for the show of the century. Pray for Jodi to get thru this shit

    • Hi Tonya, a couple of questions: who was Ashlee? Dustin?
      And I agree, I just do NOT believe that the jurors haven’t seen “anything”.
      With the media circus this has become? NO WAY!!

      • Ashley and Dustin were husband and wife.

        Ashley was friends with Travis. Dustin was apparently abusive or something, and I think eventually became Ashley’s ex husband.

        I think there was speculation as to Dustin being angry and jealous that Travis and Ashley were close.

        Ashley committed suicide in 2010. (It was ruled suicide, she shot herself in the head. Speculation on this site – it was a murder, not suicide).

        • Sorry, I forgot to add the most critical detail

          When news of Travis’s death first broke, Ashley called Det. Flores (anonymously) and left a tip that she suspected Dustin Thompson was involved.

          Call was later traced to her, she took her statement back, and she admitted to calling, but she no longer thought Dustin was responsible.

          • Ahaa!! THANK YOU!! My what a tangled web we weave!! (Was going to say, what a tangled web Mormons weave-mainly because from what I hear from my cousin’s, LDS seems more UN Seemly than any perverted soap opera you could think of!!)
            Was any of this actually in the trial? Ie: the call to Flores?

            • No, because it has nothing to do with her self-defense case. They are not claiming anyone but Jodi killed Travis. The entire case rests of self-defense.

              The only thing this fact does is make Jodi’s supporters seriously consider more than self-defense was at play, and that perhaps someone else killed Travis. The intruder angle is a possibility due to this fact, and what is odd, Jodi changed her story in 2010, I believe after Ashley’s suicide from intruders to self-defense.

        • you can really see all the shit that is wrong in the flores report there is a link to it at the top of this page just look for FLORES REPORT DETAILED BREAKDOWN I noticed that there was something wrong and the team here did the detailed to help me see it clearer notice all the ???? the detailed verson is not complet you will still have to read the origional

          • Yea, I read some of it and was utterly confused at the discrepancies!!
            They REALLY had it in for Jodi to charge HER after all the nutty statements & calls!!
            Was Flores asked about the discrepancies when he took the stand? Was he asked WHY he didn’t check anyone else out?

            Well Ms Sita, my feline mistress, keeps tapping my arm, she wants cuddles. (She “holds” my hand at night 😉 )
            Night all!! Oh, what time tomorrow? (Today?) ;). I’ll check when I wake up in a few hours.

  415. I am really bothered by the way Mr. Martinez questions the witnesses………why is he allowed to speak to people this way? It is really making me look at our judicial system in a very different light and it frightens me.

  420. An interesting development here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/08/jodi-arias-manifesto-day-42_n_3041141.html

    The manifesto attributed to Arias was not entered into evidence Monday. The contents of it remain unclear. The Huffington Post has filed an official request with the prosecutor’s office for a copy of the manifesto, but an official there said it could take some time for the request to be approved.

    “In light of the prosecutor’s ethical duties under ER 3.6, the State is seeking guidance from the Court on the nature and degree to which future public records requests could or should be fulfilled for the duration of the trial. Accordingly, the County Attorney’s Office will cease fulfilling public records requests for materials in this case until such determination is made. While County Attorney Bill Montgomery fully respects the fundamental rights of a free press in our community, he is equally compelled to ensure a fair trial for Ms. Arias and any other defendant in similar circumstances. We’ll follow up with you when we get a ruling and let you know what we’re able to release,” Maricopa County Attorney’s Office spokesman Jerry Cobb told HuffPost.

  421. Let us have faith in the wisdom and vision of our Forefathers. Juan asked very few questions of substance , thus all the juror questions. He is a clown, just like the movie Liar Liar with Jim Carrey.

  422. I’m not here to trash Jodi, but I have a serious question. What makes you so sure she’s innocent? You don’t know it to be fact. Are you just taking her word for what really happened? If so, how do you explain all the lies she told before coming up with her latest story? Since none of you were there, what makes her story believable to you? No disrespect intended.

    • I guess no one can give a me reason for believing Jodi, huh? So, after shooting him and stabbing him 29 times, she still felt threatened by him and felt the need to slash his throat ear to ear? I’ve got a bridge I’ll sell all of you! Don’t bother banning me, as I’m banning myself from this ridiculous site.

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