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Jodi Arias Trial – Day 40

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CLICK HERE FOR DAY 40 VIDEO RECORDING

Ok then… so we kind of already knew what a player, expert manipulator, sexual deviant and a total bastard TA was. It basically states the same in the 2011 Plea Bargain document.

But it’s good that the specific details are now coming out through Alyce LaViolette’s testimony. No wonder the state went out of their way to try and hide the 8,000+ emails & texts. So much for Dave Hall’s recent TV comments, where he states that Jodi was only dating TA for his “cars” and his “money”. That’s the car he sold due to being broke, and all the money he begged & borrowed from Sky Hughes & others, right?

The cross with Alyce should be interesting to say the least. She is well accustomed to dealing with arrogant bad tempered little shits, but nevertheless it’ll be interesting to see how long it takes JM before he asks her if she has “memory problems”, and subsequently if Alyce can resist bouncing the water jug off JM’s new wig. We shall see.

Thanks to everyone for their ongoing support of Jodi, and in helping get this site into the top 19,000 most visited sites in the US right now. It’s also great to see that we can have ongoing meaningful (and sometimes highly humorous) discussion during the trial, without resorting to hateful comments and stupid-ass death threats. That’s say a lot…. and it’s testament to what I’ve mentioned many times before. The grass on this side of the fence is definitely greener… while you can hardly see the grass on the Taliban side of the fence for BS.

Leave your comments below on day 40, as Alyce LaViolette’s direct testimony continues, and Jodi takes one step closer to victory…

We are getting there.

Never question it.

Never doubt it.

SJ
Team Jodi

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    • I also noticed yesterday that mr. firecracker has new hair color … the pictures taken with his fans showed salt and pepper hair… Now with all the new celebritism.. he wants to look younger ..mmmm I am not one to comment on ones looks like so many anti jodi folks do, but I couldnt help but notice !!!!

    • saw Dr. Drew late night tv, his panel psychologist Dr Arutt, https://www.facebook.com/DrArutt?ref=tn_tnmn says she bumped into Dr. Samuals at a restaurent in Scottsdale, and
      she said “Jodi’s guilty as hell”,. and he said, “I know”. Is he still under oath, and any prohibitions from
      speaking to the media?

      • They could be lying since Dr.Drew is such a Trash show! I doubt Dr.Samuels would make such a statement being a professional Doctor unlike Drew who is an entertainment tonight Guru.
        I don’t believe it they say anything on those silly shows.

        • Wow!! I bet that is a lie. I saw a few mins at the end of Dr. Drew last night and he had on a Morman missionary that was one of Jodi’s teachers when Travis sent them to her house. He said that he was so surprised by this when he heard about it and that she was basically a nice, peaceful, intelligent person. Of course Dr. Drew cut him off fast and went to a useless segment like Dr. Drew’s jury (ehhhmm who cares)

          • Lindsay,

            The Elder you’re referring to is Elder Jensen and he gave an “exclusive” interview to The Cultural Hall Podcast about his experience with Jodi during their teaching her the Book of Mormon. You can find his interview here:

            http://www.theculturalhallpodcast.com/2013/03/special-episode-elder-jensenjodi-arias/

            It’s very telling of the Jodi who existed at the very start of her relationship with Travis.

            Did anyone else see the interrogation videos of Jodi’s mom, Sandy, and her dad, William? Sandy talked about Jodi having mental problems and how her friends sometimes called her telling her Jodi needed to get help, that she was freaking out, in the middle of the night.

            Her dad’s interview was more interesting than that, though, as he explains Jodi was odd in that one moment she would call acting sweet and then, five minutes later, she would call in a rage and scream at her mother. He says she’s been like that for about a year and a half. That was as of 2008 and Jodi began her tumultuous relationship with Travis in 2006. The timeline of her “odd” behavior is consistent with the timeline of about when Travis’ behavior was escalating. It’s definitely consistent with the time when she would have just discovered Travis was dunking his dipstick into other packets of flavored sugar.

          • I also noticed how Dr. Drew cut him off! Anything positive that’s said about Jodi is immediately swept under the rug. It is so frustrating!

        • He should not be called doctor anymore. If he has
          a license as one, he should lose it.

        • You’re so right Oliviero…

          When Dr. Samuel’s was on the witness stand….they made fun of him…one of the guys on HLN said they should have gotten someone who looked better…someone who looked fresh out of Wall Street…and wore a nicer suit like the Wall Street look…and the other guy said and what’s up with that hair flipping up in the back…they just couldn’t resist making fun of Dr. Samuel’s physical appearance…

          All of them are a disgusting group of unprofessionals…

          • Truthseeker1111
            I liked Dr.Samuels It the Media is so out of control. Its ridiculous.

      • Bullshit. He could be called back as a rebuttal witness, so I do NOT believe that.

        • Also-

          Does the State only get to do rebuttal? That’s my understanding, but maybe after the State’s rebuttal the defense gets another shot.
          Thanks

          • That’s called sur rebuttal and is allowed in arizona (to the best of my knowledge) in limited circumstances (something new comes up during rebuttal).

      • I don’t believe it. As his comment says, “the truth will prevail”. As Raising Pitchforks says, HLN = Head Labotomy Needed.

      • The thing is.. Dr. Samuels probably does believe she is guilty, she did kill Travis, but does he believe she did it with premeditation, and deserves the death penalty? … Thats a whole different story… and I dont think he thinks she did.. It was a crime of passion.. I feel for the guy too… he was made a laughing stock. Sad.

  2. The grass is SO much greener on this side. Thank you to everyone who contributes and Thanks to SJ for providing this wonderful enviroment.

    • Hi cindy/Jaz!

      Thanks for your kind comments and your continued support.

      Onwards!
      SJ
      Team Jodi

        • This site is GREAT, thank you, thank you, SJ!

          This site has kept me sane… I think lol!! 😀

          We WILL be VICTORIOUS, I never doubt it for one moment, can you HEAR the APPLAUSE? Its DEAFENING!!!! 😀

          • I hear it loud & clear! How are you planning to celebrate on verdict day?

            SJ
            Team Jodi

            • I will definitely wear my “Team Jodi” t-shirt!!! And maybe have a nice cold mai-tai!! ; ))

                • Well, we don’t know she will even be convicted of anything–the most likely outcome is a hung jury.

                  However, she SHOULD be acquitted. There isn’t proof of any kind of intentional action against TA, so it isn’t even manslaughter.

                • The only way she is going to get life is if she gets murder one, and that is absolutely impossible and any such dumb verdict would be overturned on appeal.

                  I think you are on the wrong board. There is NO “obvious” about anything here.

            • Once again thank you SJ!! For having created all this or us! The day I see Martinez losing this case will certainly be one of the happiest days of my life!
              Stay strong Jodi dearest!!
              GO TEAM JODI!!

      • SJ, you have my email address right? If something happens to the site could you email me please. I don’t know what happened to the site today but, it would not even go to the page at all.

    • My best guesses:

      1. It was hard for them being in chambers with Jodi, closer confines than the court.

      2. They had some inkling of what ALV was going to testify about yesterday and it upset them to know even more was going to come out about their brother.

      • That’s what I was thinking, But thought I might have missed something. My heart does go out to them. What’s the old saying about “I can say what I want about my family but no one else better.”

        • My heart goes out to them too, but they choose to be in that hearing. It wasn’t mandatory.

          • My heart goes out to anyone that loses someone they love but they did have choice to keep this information secret. They could have made a plea bargain and the world would not know about all his dirty secrets he tried so hard to hide.

              • so true AJ…and the “talking heads” have been blaming Jodi Arias for the wasting of so many people’s tax dollars on this case…and all along the state could have made that plea deal a long time ago and saved lots of $$$$….

                And then poor ole NG can retract her statement when she said it was her tax dollars paying for this trial…

                HLN needs to get their facts straight on issues…but then if they did…their ratings would go down and that would not be good business for their network…

                Twisted truths make their breaking news which motivates more people to tune into their network…which generates higher ratings…those ratings=$$$$…

        • Good Morning, Everyone! 🙂

          I agree that it must be difficult for the family. I think, somewhere in their minds, they must have some amount of guilt, too. If an estranged family member of mine were murdered – my first thoughts would not be to “kill” another but to find out the truth why. It would be horrible to know that a brother was in trouble and needed help and I wasn’t there. But then when I hear how blood thirsty they are – my sympathy flees. I’m sorry, but it just strikes me as evil when someone wants to murder another so much without truly understanding what has happened.

      • Sometimes, over the last week or 10 days, I’ve had the feeling that there’s something going on that’s more than meets the eye.

        There have been a number of rather long, closed door meetings with the judge, with sealed transcripts, etc, including the long meeting with the judge where ALV was present and then they cancelled court for the day. Then comes the meeting yesterday with TS’s family leaving in tears.

        I doubt if removal of a juror would have driven them to tears. I think something bigger is afoot and we’ll probably see it in court today.

        Also I’m a little baffled by JM’s behavior. The testimony being elicited from ALV, including the email contents is now a forgone conclusion. The hearsay objections are rather inane, because JW just rephrases the question and gets ALV to answer it in a manner that gets beyond that issue. JM doesn’t need to preserve a record for appeal, the state cannot appeal an acquittal (after all we don’t live in Italy). He has to know that if anything these objections can only lead to the assumption that the state is trying to keep evidence out. That can only reflect badly on the state’s case. So why is he doing this?

        Something’s up.

        • Al…while watching the trial last night as it continued during the NG hour…I noticed NG seemed to be sensing a change of some sort while she was commenting while watching the trial…

          Around 8:48 pm…Nancy Grace said this witness (Alyce LaViolette)…she’s able to turn this juror to favor an acquittal…

          Favor an acquittal…so maybe that is what this is about???

          • I certainly hope so. If I were a juror I would be in favor of time served, no chance of future recourse on either parties behalf and the records sealed, as to give Jodi a chance once she is free. Also she should be offered new identity and counsuling in another state.

            • Edward…

              It’s a shame that our American government has allowed shows like HLN, Dr. Drew, JVM, and others to enrage so many Americans with twisted truths about people like Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias…to the point that those Americans have become vile haters today…such evil are these people…

              I wouldn’t be a bit surprised one day to see the symbol 666 appear on her forehead…

            • If Jodi is acquitted she would most likely have to leave the country she has been demonized by the media and her face is well known. Alot of people are consumed with hatred towards her and its not fair . This trial has the audience emotionally invested even more so than the Casey Anthony trial. I fear for her safety and I think she will be in more danger behind bars.

              • Aww these small country towns that do not have Temples an such Jodi would fit right in most people don’t even pay attention to the HLN around here. Not many even have heard her name or can remember the name if asked I have found. Small town USA.

        • Astute as always, Al. There’s no way the sibs were called in to chambers over juror dismissal. Unless – and this is a huge guess – the juror indicated that the eye-rolling and other behavior had been an influence. But, again, that’s a huge guess. We may never know what it was. Or at least not until the parties present write their inevitable books.

        • I have been thinking the same thing. I did find it very odd that TA’s siblings came out crying. How much more would truely upset them that hasn’t already been said.

          I’m sure it was difficult to be in the same room with Jodi but to have them be that upset????

          • Like mentioned before, maybe they were told they have to stop so many facial expressions, rolling eyes.. etc… ???

            • I don’t think they were told that because they continued to roll their eyes yesterday.

          • I have never had to deal with a family member being killed (thank God), but I feel like after 4 years I would have reached some closure and acceptance of it ? This siblings seem to cry an awful lot over their estranged brother. Is that expected at a trial or do they all need to get some therapy to find some peace and the ability to move on?

            • Even though they were estranged, they loved their brother, and they have been in limbo, unable to move on because this trial was coming. So they haven’t been able to go through all the stages of grief. I suspect they are still in the anger stage, and they would undoubtedly benefit from some counseling.

            • I cannot truly speak on behalf of what those three siblings, who sit vigilantly every day without fail at their brother’s killer’s trial, are motivated by. I have some of my own ideas as to why they sit there and subject themselves to what can only be tortuous as they see pictures and hear things about the brother they lost touch with. I also have some of my own ideas in regards to what they are thinking.

              Of course, everything I have concluded is based on speculation and hearsay and most of it lacks any solid foundation. Oh…my….God…..JM is in my damn head! As I was typing the sentences dealing with my own ideas, I objected myself 3 times!!! I am going to seriously need a lobotomy by the time this trial closes. Anywho, grab a cup of whatever happens to be your poison and a smoke (if you do) cause this one is going to be lengthy. As per usual.

              Given the history of the Alexander children, or more appropriately, Travis and his 3 sisters for sure, it would be nonsensical to think for a second that Travis would be the only one of the four to have suffered any side effects from the abuse they all suffered. Although, the effect on Travis would be much more devastating.

              Reason being, during the first 8-10 years of a boy’s life, their relationship with their mother is absolutely vital to their healthy sexual, emotional, and social development. A boy learns to respect women, how to treat them, and mom is the one who nurtures his ability to be in touch with his emotions. This is the same in the case for dad’s and little girls. I’ve said this before but it may have been missed, let’s look at Travis’ mom vs. his mummum (grandma) for a minute:

              >>>>>>>>TANGENT ALERT<<<<<<<<<
              Mom- Drug addict who let the kids go filthy, starving, and untended to for days at a time while catching up on sleep after going on Meth binges that kept her up for days at a time. During, which, she sometimes fed them, allowed them to bathe, beat them for no reason, verbally abused them, and exposed them to sexual behavior with random men who probably left as quick as they came (that's a loaded pun you are free to give intention to). Such exposure probably included the children accidentally seeing her with these men (who probably beat her and called her a whore or skank) or hearing sexually explicit noises.

              Whatever the exposure, it left Travis with a deep disgust towards women who acknowledge their sexuality in such a wanton manner, so much so, that the line between disgust and his own curiosity blurred until he was looking for women to do the things he believed his mom did with her men.

              If you look closely at his treatment of Jodi, it seems like it would get worse each time she catered to a new fantasy of his. The "impression" I get is that Travis is curious about the sexual side of life, wondering why his mother would let so many men treat her in such a manner, what was so good about it, and he satiates his curiosity by doing sexual things with Jodi. But, because he is disgusted by his mother's actions and Jodi just behaved for him like his mom did for her men, he associates the two as if they are one and the same. Meaning, he is disgusted by Jodi and treats her the same way his mom was treated by the men parading through her vagina. Sorry, life….I meant to type life not vagina…..stupid autocorrect.

              Then you have Travis' beloved Mummum. His grandmother who saved him from his nightmare by taking him and his sisters in and raising them as her own. Aside from his mom, Mummum is the other most important woman in Travis' life. Mummum and Mom's influence, in regards to the level of impact it had on Travis' development mentally, socially, sexually, and emotionally was equal.

              Which, is why he was so fucked up. And I say that in the most empathetic way. Seriously. Mummum fed them every day, made sure they were clean every day, she kept the roaches away, taught him to use a can opener so he'd never be teased by canned food he could not open to eat again, she made sure his clothes were clean, she was married to one man who did not beat her or degrade her, she was a modest woman, she did not use drugs, she did not beat them, and most of all, she loved them and she hugged them. She, without a doubt, is the only reason why Travis was not a serial killer. Funny enough, Mummum was a devout Mormon and she introduced Travis and his sisters to the faith. Travis, more than anyone, dove in balls deep.

              I'm pretty sure, this being a group brimming with intelligent individuals, it is obvious where I'm going with this. However, sometimes when I write out my thoughts like I am right now, I tend to have my epiphanies and this causes me to board the tangent train. If you've read my posts before, you know this is going to be a jumpy ride that often ends so far away from the original topic that I rarely remember what it was to begin with. A ride that doesn't even provide you with refreshments or a soft pillow to rest your head upon. It does, however, provide you with a book that if nothing else is somewhat entertaining. But, I digress……damn it.

              Anyway, notice how Travis treats Jodi like a skank and holds the Mormon girls he knows in the highest and purest regard? Jodi represents his mother and the Mormon girls represent his Mummum. Jodi is not marriage material but the Mormon girls are. Do ya see it? Look at their relationship from this new perspective and it will become glaringly obvious. As if that saint vs slut battle wouldn't be enough to drive anyone out of their damn minds, Travis would be dealt an unexpected hand where Jodi was concerned because he actually fell, in as deep of a love as one who mostly only loves himself possibly can love, with her. Which, further explains his hot and cold behavior that was only rivaled by Jodi's when she was dealing with PMS or, to put it like I did earlier, it explains why he was so fucked up.

              Jodi, all the while, is completely unsuspecting of what her role in his life is doing to him or what she represents to him when she, only trying to make him happy by any means necessary and sacrificing her own happiness by comprising her self for him, caters to this side of him. She senses something is just not right with him, writes just that in her journal, but there are times when his Mummum's influence on him bitch slaps is Mom's influence into a quiet stupor and, it's during these times, when Travis allows himself to feel the love he has for Jodi and when he shows her the love as well.

              Those are the times when Travis treats her in such a way that it reaches down to the depths of who she is and ignites a sense of self worth in her she has never felt before. For just one of those moments when she feels this way, she will endure just about anything…..and so she did. But, a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do to survive in the end……and so she did. Which, brings us to the here and now.

              Where was I going with this? Um….ah shit. I did it again. OH, okay. So, all that was said to validate or explain my claim that Travis would be more negatively impacted by his mother's treatment of him than his sisters would be. Hey, don't give me shit, I warned you ahead of time it would be lengthy. Go ahead and take a potty break. I'll wait here.
              ……

              Now, Travis' sisters also suffered greatly from their mother's abuse. Girls learn from their mothers how to be mothers themselves. They also learn how to be wives in terms of what to tolerate and what constitutes the boot being injected so far into their spouses asshole that, when the dick sneezes, shoelaces dangle from his nostrils. They base their morals and beliefs from the foundation of the example mommy led by and, from there, they build upon that foundation throughout their life, making adjustments influenced by what they experience along the way.

              Mommy teaches the girls to set boundaries, coping skills, self empowerment, and conviction. Unless, of course Mommy is the Alexander mom. In that case, Mommy teaches the girls how to load a pipe, how to use one's body to get what one wants or needs, and that a man can do what ever he damn well pleases and say what ever he wants to you and you will get mad and fight back, to no avail, so just go beat up your kids (especially the one with a penis since he represents the lot of his kind) instead.

              When one considers all of this as though it's 100% fact…..and it could be so just shush cause we'll never know either way so there…..(sticking tongue out)….when one considers this even being just a 50/50 (leaving room to back peddle in case it ever comes out that I was WAY the fuck off in my conclusions) chance at what happened for the Alexander offspring, can you come to any other conclusion than these children were each destroyed to some degree and this destruction was carried on to their adult lives, even today? Then, once all is considered, is it any wonder why they would shed tears during the testimony of a woman who is describing their brother in a way they recognize all too well? A way that they, too, have either experienced from him with them being in Jodi's position or they can identify parts of themselves and the way they were affected in his behavior.

              Either way, what ALV is saying in her testimony is resonating somewhere deep within their souls where they've kept their past locked away by denial and it is forcing them to acknowledge the logic behind what she's saying because she is explaining behaviors they likely exhibit themselves. Perhaps, ALV is explaining to the girls why it feels like there were times in their life when they followed in the footsteps of their mom. Maybe, they have been or are currently involved in abusive relationships and they've been denying it but now, after hearing ALV describe Jodi as she has been and giving examples of Travis' treatment of Jodi, maybe they can no longer deny it because they relate to dealing with the abuse the way Jodi did or their spouse treats them in the way that ALV details Travis treating Jodi. Or, it's also possible that ALV's testimony is giving them a better understanding of their mother and why she made the decisions she did that ultimately scarred them for life.

              The bottom line is, whatever it is they are taking or learning from ALV's testimony is having quite an impact on them both personally. If I am right, even in the slightest bit, about any of the things they could be learning, then it's a safe assumption to make that they are struggling to process one heavy load of hot mess fuctardery that is going to be near impossible to fully digest. I mean, if they relate to any of the things ALV has described about Jodi and how, as a victim of DV, she reacted or coped with her abuse and they, themselves are DV victims then they will be faced with a dilemma.

              Because, as we all know, with an understanding of one's actions comes a humanization effect that, in some cases, can borderline on being empathy if it doesn't develop into empathy in time. It is this reason alone that causes the masses to so loudly and passionately protest the killer's right to due process. This is why people shut down and discredit or disregard anything said in favor of the murderer. It's why nobody wants to hear about Jodi's background or details of her relationship.

              Knowing these things helps explain the act and the person who committed it. The explanation offers an understanding to some degree of what caused such behavior. The understanding of such allows for one to relate to it. Once a relation is made or someone identifies with something about the murderer, they become humanized. With humanization comes compassion and empathy. Finally, once compassion and empathy set in, our thirst for blood of the killer to atone for the crime against the victim all but burns out. For, how could we possibly demand the death of someone we very well could have ended up being?

              Right now, the Alexander's HAVE to hate Jodi. It is the only thing saving them from what would be a vicious onslaught by the reality of all of it; Travis' death, his tortured existence, their childhood, their own mistakes, and now the fact that another person might die all because of their parents failing on such an epic scale that a domino effect was created and too many people were taken down with them. That is a cross so heavy to bear it is rivaled only by the cross Jesus would bear.

              While they will never forgive Jodi for taking their brother's life, and nobody would fault them for that either (at least I wouldn't) hopefully they will be able to, at some point, find some kind of an absolution from their hatred of her. Because the feeling of having such an injustice carried out against you or someone you love carries with it a toxicity that is injected into the core of who you are and it beats within your heart, pumped rhythmically through your veins, until your entire body is flowing with this venom that will inevitably be your undoing. Trust me on this one, I know first hand.

              In conclusion, we see tears from them but I think these are just as much healing tears as they are tears of sorrow and pain. While they are enduring something, which, we all hope to never be able to imagine let alone know first hand, they are also learning a wealth of information about themselves. Remember, with learning comes explaining comes understanding comes relating comes humanizing comes compassion and don't think for a second that does not apply to oneself.

              These girls are likely on a path to self discovery and awareness. A nasty and ugly path that is first unforgiving with it's brutal honesty that is never served with a spoonful of sugar but, if one makes it through this, awareness is rewarding in that you, at last, know who you are and who you are is no longer defined by what you've had done to you or what you've done to others.

              The shackles of guilt that once bound you inside the prison of your shame have been obliterated by your acknowledgement and acceptance of them. You learn every lesson you possibly can from them and make adjustments accordingly so as not to make the same mistakes that caused them in the first place and then you can finally forgive yourself for them, letting them go and, in turn, releasing yourself from their control.

              It's a long road, though, and they've only just started the walk. If I had one wish for them it would be that ALV or someone of her caliber offer their services to each of the siblings and that the siblings do not hesitate to accept.

              And, with that, I'm gonna throw myself from the tangent train before I completely forget my way back. I'd apologize for the length of this post but, damn it, you should all be expecting this from me by now. Besides, you know if nothing else, I gave you something to do while taking your morning shadoob and how many others have done such a kind thing for you today? Hmmm? I didn't think so! LOL

        • It’s a cheap trick (ineffective) lawyers use to throw the opponent’s game off, akin to calling time outs when the other team is on a run in basketball. Personally, I think it’s low, stupid, and generally ineffective.

          • Agree. The objections are to throw the witness and the defense’s train of thought off.

          • If that is indeed what he’s doing, it’s a hell of a gamble. If it were anyone else, I would say that he must be aware that it certainly has the appearance that he’s trying to suppress the truth. But, given his distasteful approach to most of the witnesses, maybe he really is that clueless. Or he is is just worried enough about this evidence (as he should be) that he’s willing to take that Ruskin order to keep it out of the trial.

            Either way, it’s a win for the defense. Unless – god forbid – this jury is as stupid as he is.

          • I agree. Cheap tricks. And if the prosecution’s case is such a slam dunk, why resort to cheap tricks?

            • Exactly, he has nothing. Premeditation? No proof whatsoever. That is why he has to resort to dirty tricks because he is just out to win. Finding the truth is not in his game. I didn’t realize until yesterday that they tried to withhold all that email evidence. Isn’t that prosecutorial misconduct?

              • JM is an abuser. He tried to use just certain recordings to try and hide the truth.

        • I noticed that, too. JM seems very flustered by ALV. His ongoing objections over ALV’s little nothings are sending a signal that he’s very worried about what she’s there to say.

          Oops! Did I say “say?! That’s the dirtiest word in the world, according to JM’s constant interruptions of ALV O_o

          • Well that depends on how you define the word say. Good thing JM has a dictionary to look up crucial words in testimony:

            “say”
            “is”

        • I think they may have been in tears because that closed door meeting was the “most real” possibility of a mis-trial to date, and one that everybody took very seriously. I’m almost certain that the defense could have pushed further for a mis-trial and succeeded “if” they really wanted to. By the sounds of it, Juror #5 made statements in front of other jurors that indicated her determination of Jodi’s guilt or innocence (some form of early deliberation on her part). I’m also guessing that the defense feels confident enough in their case, that they decided to move forward with just the removal of this juror. If they felt that they were losing this case, I think they would have fought tooth and nail for a mis-trial. Juror #5’s diarrhea mouth did in fact have an effect on the other jurors that heard her comments and I think a mis-trial could have been granted over this. Probably scared the living shit out of TA’s family. I’m just “speculating” here (don’t hurt me, helmet head Martinez), but that’s my take on things.
          How is Mr. Helmet Head going to deal with this witness on cross exam? Will he verbally “abuse” her? Should be interesting to say the least.
          Love that the defense found a way to get these emails in through this witness! I wasn’t sure if Miss Wilmont said she was done with the witness at the end of yesterday, or was just done with her for the day. If she’s not done, is it possible she might be able to bring in other materials through this witness that were previously not allowed….like the letters that the Hughes’ said were all faked? I hope the defense calls those lying a-holes back to the stand and exposes them for the dirty people they are!

          • I think that this is why the defense went this route instead of hiring forensics experts. They put all of their eggs in the psych expert’s basket.

            • I agree Joujou-
              I also think it is a way to keep the lying Hughes out of it. I’m hoping that JM can’t call those liars who are making it clear they want to sabotage the case by lying, for rebuttal.

        • Al, he is preserving the record for appeal because he would not want his conviction overturned on appeal if he does one. Also, in case the judge decides to acquit prior to the end of the trial (a very very rare circumstance) on some technicality or grants some other motion of the defense (such as, dropping the DP).

          I also think JM believes that by objecting so frequently, the jury will begin to suspect that the defense is doing something improper. And, of course, he’s disrupting the flow, which he probably believes lessens the impact and throws off JW’s rhythm. I think he’s merely coming across as ostreperous, and JW seems to be perfectly well able to jump right back into her rhythm.

          • Oh and, the most important reason of all, … he’s on camera and he thinks he’ll have a movie star career after this. I actually believe that, especially with the hair dye. I mean, he’s objecting like a guy on TV would.

        • It was suggested yesterday by someone here, that he was doing it for TA’s family, so he could be heard to be trying..

          Well he IS trying, VERY TRYING!

        • lets not forget the letter travis wrote that did not make it in because they were copys did jodi copy them send the letter to someone who now has the origional copy. that has not come forward was up all nite was going to bed and change my mind and went back to testomany of chris and sky

          • and why did matt jodi longest friend change his mind what happened remember ashley thompson reed jodi change story 4 month after this why ???

        • Al, I agree “something” is going to be revealed. Perhaps, JM is objecting to break the deap thoughts of the jury. As a listener, I gets wrapped up in connecting the dots when AL gives her conclusions. As many others posted, I don’t know “what else” could be said to hurt TA family that hasn’t already been covered….UNLESS…its has to do with the age of attraction thing?

    • Not too sure right now… but no doubt they’ll be even more upset in a few weeks time when they don’t get the M1/DP verdict they’re longing for.

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      • SJ

        Yes they will be more upset in a few weeks.

        I’m wondering if it has something to do with the Defense’s latest complaint of Pros misconduct in relation to the picture op outside of the Court house. Seems to be some silence on this, since the Juror misconduct took center stage. Any idea what’s up with this?

        Thanks
        TR

      • Yessssssssssssssss!

        SJ, can the jury vote for an aquittal? What are the options or is it just Not guilty or guilty? How does it work in AZ?

        • Not guilty means she is acquitted. But she has to be found not guilty on all accounts she is being charged with.

          The jury can also come back with a lesser charge like M2 or manslaughter, instead of saying guilty to murder 1 or felony murder, which is basically saying, innocent of those charges, but still not completely innocent.

          • Nk,
            From what I understand, the charges are Murder 1, or felony Murder. (or of course not guilty) The jury can only come back with a different verdict such as M2 if the judge during instructions, gives them the options of lesser included charges. it will be interesting to see if she does offer that. Sometimes it is actually a good thing if the judge doesn’t, for example, say the jury does find her guilty, but not of M1, or Felony Murder. Say they feel it was manslaughter but the judge didn’t include that charge. They would have to acquit. I believe that is what happened in the Casey Anthony trial, IMO, the State overcharged her and the jury had no lesser charges to consider, therefore they acquitted her.

          • Thanks! Well, she’s only a few weeks to go before getting her life back and I shall be sooo HAPPY!!!

  5. I think self preservation should be a plea option. This man had finally found someone vulnerable enough and who cared enough for him that she would keep his secrets, and do anything sexually he asked of her. He wasn’t about to let her go no matter how far away she was from him. I wish Jodi could have had enough support around her to get away from this horrific relationship but as Ms AV said she was confined with only TA as her co-conspirator. That’s the way he wanted it. I think his family is upset over the juror and the fact that the truth is coming out. Not that they didn’t love their brother but if they had it to do over I think they would have accepted a plea deal.

    • Just to clarify: The decision to accept a plea bargain is NOT up to the family, nor even ultimately JM (although he would have had more influence than anyone). It’s the State v. Jodi Arias, not the Alexanders v. Jodi Arias. The decision was the State of AZ’s to make. Even if the family (who are not witnesses) wanted JM to accept a plea bargain, the State was the one who made the decision. A family would only be important in the decision making process if they were star witnesses and decided not to testify. In this case, the star witnesses were the police, the ME and forensics team. The ultimate decision maker as to how this was charged and whether a plea bargain offer was extended or accepted was Bill Montgomery, JM’s boss, the Maricopa County Attorney, with a lot of input from JM, who is known to rarely accept pleas.

      • The family did want the plea bargain? Interesting, I thought they did not want it even though they do not have the last say so because I know the State makes that decision. I have seen families in other cases that have a great influence on deciding that in other trials. I just know the one sister says she wants to watch her die.

        • AJ- I think you misread, Also Abused said, ” Even IF the family wanted to accept the plea bargain”.
          You are right TA’s sister has said she wishes to watch Jodi die. sad…..

          • I know that the family does not make that decision and I also know the State makes that call. I had just never heard anywhere that they wanted a plea deal. My apologies to Also and to you if it seemed I was not making my post clear.

            • NO, you are right, the family did not want the plea deal. Maybe It was me who was not clear- no worries 🙂

            • I was just saying that I had never heard they wanted a plea bargain that is all. Like I said my apologies to you both if my post did not make sense and it seemed like I was not agreeing with Also. As I said earlier I am an Accountant so I am much better with numbers than words. LOL

              • I can’t help but wonder if at least one if his siblings would have preferred a plea bargain and for all of this information about his past not to be revealed. It has to be devastating for them after they’ve revered his memory as a virtual saint.

                I asked our own lovely Bella a while back if the death penalty was something typical within the Mormon faith. She did say that scripturally it would be. However, she also said there are many Mormons who feel differently about it. I wonder though if perhaps the family belongs to a very scripturally-literal sect of Mormons — if there even is such a thing.

      • Prosecutors in capital case always consult with the family of the victim in plea deals. Although the family does not have the final say so, their opinion counts a great deal. The assistant DAs recommendations are almost 100 % accepted by the DA. JM is definitely the driving force behind this death penalty case and refusal to accept a plea. He “is” the state!

  6. Did you all see the clips from the Dr. Drew show that are of Jodi’s parents’ interviews? I don’t watch Dr. Drew…can’t stand him! But I was reading about the clips so I looked them up on his site. Notice that Dr. Drew, in his true form, spins the clip, especially the one of Jodi’s Dad. Of course, just as in the CA case, these clips are being leaked by LE and the State, no doubt.

    • My heart goes out to J’s parents. And I wish the judge would kick cop sis out of the courtroom for all that eye rolling. I think the sibs were crying because of the juror being dismissed. Who know….maybe the judge even came close to calling a mistrial. Which, IMO, should have been called a long time ago based on the prosecutor’s behavior alone!

    • I heard they were showing those last night and that truly makes me sick. I feel for all the Arias family and that is just another shameful antic for hln to pull out on a day that should have shown yesterday’s testimony instead. To me showing Jodi’s mom sinks to a whole new low.

      • I didn’t watch those tapes. They aren’t proof of anything, and if the state really thought they were, they’d have been introduced as evidence and the parents questioned as witnesses.

        BFD, I say.

        • Agreed.

          And once again, JM should be doing something to corral these tapes being released by the Mesa PD. The Rules of Conduct for prosecutors is very clear about that. There is no purpose to realeasing these other than to incite/inflame the public.

            • If anything, there should be amendments attached to the FOIA to prohibit this.

              There is NO “right to know” here with an ongoing trial.

          • The tapes were sought out by HLN, they got them thru the Freedom of Information Act. Actually, anyone can do the same if they know the proper channels to go through. I think a few other channels have done the same, ABC and maybe CBS if I heard correctly. I’m betting HLN has alot more, but are releasing them little by little to get people to continue watching.

        • Yep, I didn’t watch them either, nor did I watch Jodi’s interrogation videos. I want to view the evidence of this case just as the jury is, without Dr. Drew’s/HLN’s bullshit thrown in.

          • Yes that is what I cannot stand is they show all these tapes that were not entered into evidence on this channel and viewers may think that the Jury has seen it. I have to keep my own mom straight when they show these tapes. She does not use a computer and she does not have a DVR so she has no choice but to watch hln. I keep telling her to mute those talking heads.

          • The tapes of Jodi being interrogated are useful in understanding the case.

            They show her with cognitive dissonance, it’s a pretty strong indication she is innocent.

            I think Flores had no idea how to interpret the bizarre behaviour, but he could have brought in someone who could make sense of it (a psychologist), and a lot of trouble would have been avoided.

            I think that’s one of the main lessons arising from the case.

      • It’s sad to see the parents being put in that position. In seeing the video we learned that Jodi’s mom and some friends wanted to get her some help.

    • I used to like Dr. Drew…watched all of his celebrity rehabs… now I cant stand him.. I turn him off, as soon as he comes on the screen..

        • He and Nancy Grace are neck in neck in my view (no pun intended). Hard to pick the winning loser. He is a phony, presenting the illusion of being psychiatrically trained.

        • Dr Drew is a surgeon he has no psychology doctorate whatsoever and never has had. He really has no right to comment on anything as a Dr.

      • Same here. I actually can tolerate NG more than him now – at least I know who she is & what she stands for – she is into the ‘bulldog’ prosecution approach, sensationalism & the DP for anyone she thinks committed a murder. But Dr Drew…he is supposed to stand for understanding the defendant, the victim, he’s supposed to be a dr who looks at what is going on at a deeper level, unbiased & interested in really pursuing the study of human science as it applies to a given case.

      • Dr Drew flinging his hands around, talking with his hands, is nothing but a know-it-all who thinks he knows more than anyone else….always rude and interupting his guests. Take a look at his cold, dark eyes. What’s with him having his “own jury”, a “behavior bureau”, and above all ” a human-lie-detector person”. The people giving out grade-school grades from A to F. All nonsense and they do not have all the facts to begin with…….all speculation.

    • Yes, these ongoing interrogation video leaks are highly suspect. It’s as if the State *wants* the jury to stumble upon information the judge has ruled inadmissible.

      First the headstand video, now the videos with each of Jodi’s parents. This just seems like an attempted setup of some sort – a sneaky, back-door way to sway the jury.

      • I watched the videos of Jodi’s parents. In the video of her father, he stated that a .22 had been stolen from his inlaws’ house. Could it be possible that he was right on that fact? Flores corrected him and told him no it was a .25 and the gun that Travis was killed with was a .25 and that it was too much to be a coincidence. What if Jodi’s grandfather was wrong about the caliber of the gun? He had stated he had never used it and that it was given to him by someone in the family.

  7. I realize it isn’t the family’s decision but I feel they were influential and probably were fed a lot of BS by the State and Mr JM such as ‘stalked, planned and executed’. I could be wrong but surely they all now know the DP is unattainable no matter how much JM will strut and challenge and misstate every syllable AV tries to utter.. It just seems a shame that someone as arrogant and ineffective as he is would have the ability to impact such a decision.

    • ” I feel they were influential ”

      Of course they were. People don’t seem to understand this. Martinez does not only notify them of things, he does take what they want into consideration. If they had felt passionate about Jodi NOT getting the death penalty, that would have been a driving force for the state to accept the plea.

      The family can also do this with sentencing, but in a more formal manner with impact statements I believe.

      • That is true BeeCee. I have seen a few cases where the family did not believe in the DP so the state do respect that and leave that off the table or make a plea deal.

    • I honestly think Travis’s friends had a lot to do with feeding JM and the police a load of crap that Jodi was a jealous stalker simply because Travis told them a line of b.s.

      I think you have it backwards.

      The way Travis’s siblings talked about Jodi on 48 Hours, you’d have thought they had actually known Jodi, but the fact is they didn’t know her at all.

      • They hadn’t even seen Travis in what, four years? Flores’ report said they were estranged. I guess Mormons don’t celebrate Christmas? They don’t get together even once a year? They had no idea what was going on in Travis’ life. Even Travis’ closest friends didn’t know. Travis kept secrets. Who knows how many people he was playing and sleeping with and borrowing money from. Only he knew.

        • Yep. The reality of Travis was far different from what his family and friends were portraying.

          In fact, he was the exact opposite of what they were saying.

  8. I haven’t watched the (H)ellish (L)iar (N)incompoop’s after Dr. Clueless gave credence to a Miss Cleo protege, What are the the charlatans and prevaricators there saying about the emails that leave no doubt as to Alexander’s questionable character?

    • llanger, they aren’t saying one word. They’re pretending they didn’t hear it. Covering their ears. It’s so weird.

    • Thanks, SJ! What will you think of next?!!!! 🙂

      Thank you for all you do in providing and maintaining this site! Thank you for sharing your thoughts, telling it like it is, and being a constant inspiration to those of us who know truth and justice are worth standing up for.

      Now, I have to ask, because my curiosity and being from Wisconsin just won’t let me delay asking any longer, did you use a green and gold color scheme in the design for this site because you happen to be a Green Bay Packer fan? Or, were these colors selected by Jodi? Just curious.

      Hope we have another great day with ALV on the stand! Gotta love your apt description, SJ, of the “arrogant, bad-tempered little shit”! Thanks again, for all you do, SJ.

      • Hi Sable!

        Thanks for your kind comments. I actually go with the bold green, yellow & white scheme due to being color blind. It makes it a lot easier :mrgreen: It’s the same reason Casey’s site has the same color scheme too.

        Onwards!
        SJ
        Team Jodi

        • Yes thank you for creating this website and for adding all the clips and police reports. It’s the only place I have found that I can speak freely without getting death threats. I have never seen such hate and it is good to come here and find some peace.

    • The American author, Lynne Grabhorn, has written many books about the Law of Attraction. Well worth a read and she has done taped recordings too. She talks about putting yourself in the ”feeling place” of having what you want.

  10. I was attracted to The Secret years ago because the author’s name is Rhonda and her daughter,s name is Hailey I believe, but once I started reading it I was like ‘Hey this is just repacked ideas , I have heard this before “

    • Hi Rhonda,

      We’ll, it’s certainly no “instant fix” in that sense, but action combined with positive thinking can be very powerful.

      SJ
      Team Jodi

      • I agree, it can help keeping one’s head up, being a good Samaritan by example, and keeping pessimism at bay.

        But like in Jodi’s case, if it is adhered literally to the extreme, it can have negative impacts:
        1) blaming herself for not being good at applying the ‘law of attraction’ when it did not cure problems,
        2) ignoring and denying that there are problems, refusing to face reality, bad or good, and to consider all options,
        and 3) being convinced that if the bad things are swept under the rug they will all disappear.

    • But some have never heard of the law of attraction so it can leave a big impression on people the first time they learn of it,gives them a lot of hope.

      • I agree… and if only a handful of people from this site watch the movie and derive benefit from it, then that’d be great. Thanks for sharing.

        SJ
        Team Jodi

        • You know I never heard of it before this trial…but I decided that this year I was just going to be more positive and it does work…..I really like myself now….

          • It mostly positive thinking amped up. I’m sure you have read ton of books regarding taking a negatives problem and turning it into a positive situation. Motivational Speaker talk about this all the time. I sure this was one of TA motivational talking points.

      • This is the first time I heard of the law of attraction, well through the case, when jodi started talking about it. Should be interesting…

        • There’s an American author called Lynne Grabhorn, LC, she has written many books about the Law of Attraction, well worth a read.

  12. Hello everyone! Good morning. I have been thinking a lot about the idea of reasonable doubt. I don’t see how anyone with a brain couldn’t see there is a LOT of “reasonable doubt” in this case. Personally, I believe Jodi should be acquitted, but I think even people who think it was heinous or whatever could see that it doesn’t all add up. I really hope the jurors keep that in mind. I hope that made sense lol

    • Rachel,

      I think you’re sort of correct. The real issue with jury decisions actually comes down to three things:

      1. The actual charges that are included at the end of the trial. The fact that the state has currently charged Jodi with M1 and Felony murder actually has very little to do with what lesser included charges the judge allows at the end of the trial.

      2. The jury instructions the judge issues at the end of the trial. The technical legal description of a charge can vary fairly substantially from what we may think of them as common lay people.

      3. The final closing arguments, which are not evidence, but that is where the lawyers tell you how all the evidence that has been presented to date matches up to the points mentioned in 1 and 2 above.

      So, in theory, the judge could in fact include a variety of charges, including M2, manslaughter and who knows what else. The lawyers can argue about conviction or acquittal on a variety of those charges.

      This is why they always tell the jury not to make up their minds till all is said and done.

      And once all this is in, the jury has to look for reasonable doubt for each of those charges. Sometimes, they can get into a situation where, either through the facts of the case or due to lack of foresight on the defense, there is a charge that is left, where a reasonable doubt does not exist.

      So in this case, I don’t think JM has closed the loop on M1. Hasn’t even come close. Also he has to disprove self defense, and I don’t think he’s done that either, and he has to do that beyond a reasonable doubt.

      The real problem I see from the defenses side is the manslaughter charge, if the Judge allows one to be included. AZ’s manslaughter charge has an included clauses that actually allows a self defense situation that went too far to become manslaughter. That is the part that worries me. If JM doesn’t manage to overcome the self defense claim, then M1 is automatically out. But under these circumstances, and from how I interpret the AZ jury instruction I do believe that a reasonable jury can bring a manslaughter verdict, and I don’t think the defense has , so far, done anything to dispel that.

      Of course we still have the remainder of the trial to go, so let’s see what happens.

      • Arizona manslaughter is still no walk in the park. I’m hoping for downright aquittal.

        Manslaughter is any one of the following:
        ◦Recklessly causing the death of another person
        ◦Committing second degree murder upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion resulting from adequate provocation by the victim

        Manslaughter is punishable as a Class 2 Felony

        Minimum is 7 years
        Presumptive is 10.5 years
        Maximum is 21 years

        http://www.russlawaz.com/arizona-manslaughter.htm

        • Linda,

          The part that worries me is

          “Committing second degree murder upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion resulting from adequate provocation by the victim”

          This is often called the imperfect self-defense situation because the self defense charge has an objective limit to how much force can be applied and when you must stop. If you go beyond that, then what started as self defense morphs into something else, i.e. manslaughter and hence the “imperfect self defense” terminology.

          Plus, occasionally juries have been known to use that most flawed of logics – “A guy is dead, so someone must pay something” and so even though M1 has not been proven let’s find something less to hang our hat onto. This is just bogus, but it does happen.

          • Al, it seems to me at the beginning of this trial someone mentioned that Arizona has special laws pertaining to self defense when it involved someone who had been a victim of domestic violence. Is there anything to this?

            • Not that I’ve ever seen that affects this case. The AZ domestic violence law actually carves out self-defense claim in domestic violence cases, the same as it does in murder.

              This is just a legal spelling out. It just says self defense can be claimed if you are charged with domestic violence. That’s just the writers of the law trying to be complete. So self defense can be claimed if you are charged with homicide, assault, domestic violence, but for instance not for spitting on the sidewalk.

              • I was thinking more along the lines of the frame of mind of the person who had been subject to domestic violence and to the degree with which they reacted to a perceived threat of their life.

      • However, anything short of Murder One would be a huge victory for the defense.

        That is the bottom line here.

        • Agreed.

          Even if Jodi has to spend 21 years in prison (and she would get credit for time served), it’s better to be released in her late 40s/early 50s than to be there forever or be put to death somewhere down the line.

          • If she did get the full maximum and kept her nose clean she would be eligible for release in 14 years. which given time served would make her eligible for release in about 9 years.

  13. Today’s testimony:

    JW: Good morning, Ms…

    JM: Objection! Irrelevant….

    Judge: Overruled

    JW: Now, when we left off….

    JM: Objection, out of scope.

    Judge: Overruled

    JW: Now, when we left off….

    JM: Objection, speculation

    Judge: Overruled

    JW: Sigh, OK, when we left off…

    JM: Objection, lack of foundation

    Judge: Overruled

    JW: *smiles, Ok, Ms. La…

    JM: Objection, mis-characterization

    Judge: Overruled

    JW: Ms. La…

    JM: *stands up OBJECTION! THE PROSECUTOR IS THE ROCK-STAR HERE, NOT THIS MAN-HATING LESBIAN!

    Judge: Overruled, sit down Mr. Kermit

  15. So, this is my first time commenting on any pro or anti Jodi site. I will say I’ve “stalked” them all throughout the majority of the trial:) I’ve read absurd comments on all of the sites, much less here, but hey perfection doesn’t exist. I think both sides have blinders on in some areas of this case. Anyway, I’m honestly still torn about this trial. I started out thinking she was without a doubt guilty and wanted her in prison for life, because I don’t believe in the DP(different topic another day). Although, as I’ve learned more I’m torn and undecided. Yes, Travis was an asshole to his girlfriends, but that doesn’t constitute murder. Almost everything else is based on Jodi’s word, which has no credibility with me. So, it really comes down to what happened in that house that day. I don’t think JM has made the case for murder 1. I’m also embarrassed by the actions and ethics, or lack of, of the prosecutor and the defense in this circus of a murder trial.
    It comes down to two people that BOTH had issues and when they got together the end result was the death of one of them. So should the other one die as well for punishment? This is a tragedy and regardless of how you feel about either one BOTH of their families are victims in this. Negative comments about their families repulse me. This is more or less just a rant with probably numerous contradictions, but just putting it out there.

  16. I wonder if Martinez peed his pants when he realized there was a lot of dirt on Travis and that there could be other people who wanted travis dead?

    I also wonder if Flores pooped HIS pants when he finally got around to reading the text messages and then reading the emails….

    HAHAHAHAHAHA…I hope they did.

    • I think there was a lot of pooping going on, especially in the Hughes household. I wrote this once and I’ll write it again, I think Juan told them not to worry about the emails cuz they would never see the light of day in court. Now, Juan looks stupid and that his word can’t be trusted.

      • I think you are right Frannie about JM probably telling them the emails wouldn’t make it in.

        The hater sites have it all wrong, they seem to have missed the fact that these are also emails between travis and other people, not Jodi.

      • You’re probably right or very close to right. I’ve heard he’s crooked anyway. If you watch him you’ll notice he objects a lot of the time just so the jury won’t hear the testimony…to break the flow of the testomony >>> without any foundation whatsoever. What a scumbag. I’m surprised he hasn’t been thrown out of a lot of times. Martinez is a #1 A-hole. You have to wonder if other lawyers in that area are ashamed of him.

    • Oh wow beecee, os it this true???

      I wonder if Martinez peed his pants when he realized there was a lot of dirt on Travis and that there could be other people who wanted travis dead?

      There were people that WANTED TA dead???? I missed yesrted afternoon and I haven’t had time to go backn watch Iit. But was this in those emails? ??????

      • Oh SORRY LC! I was speculating! It wasn’t anything from trial.

        I meant once Kermit realized from the evidence that other people would have it in for TA…I mean, he must realize by now that Travis more than likely pissed a bunch of people off…if he doesn’t, then they really are stupid.

        • Makes me wonder how many people he owed money to and how much also because money makes people do strange things

  17. Hi everyone! I missed yesterday’s trial, but tried to catch up online. I am really curious about the letters from the Hughes. Why can’t the emails be shown to the jury? Are the emails public record- can I find them? I saw something about Travis saying he was a bit of a sociopath on this blog. Anything to back that up? Why is that not evidence?! Thank you 🙂

  18. Now this Doctor gave Jodi what 3 books ? I don’t think JM will ask “YOU sent them because you like her don”t you? Then she says “I like a lot of people,like I have said already” no I don’t think he will do that,I think he will talk fast and short,as if her testimony was completely unreliable and beneath him,I just cant see him being a pit bull with her alas I could be very wrong.

    • I’m thinking JM will attack just as he always has. It’s his MO. He was taking lots of notes yesterday and at one point had a little exchange with Flores over one of AL’s answers. I think the only way he knows to discredit a witness is by bullying and confusing the witness. JM has no interest in getting truthful answers. His only focus is to win and to him the big prize is the DP.

      Although it seems like not going on the attack with AL might be a more prudent approach, JM seems to lack
      the good judgment to take that approach. Signing autographs, posing for pictures, dying his hair…..he is so full of himself that his judgment is clouded.

      Also, as someone else posted on this site a while back, he is like a pitcher whose only good pitch is a fastball. The opposing team can eventually get a bead on that one pitch and start hitting homers, then it’s all over. (Yes, I was a pitcher’s Mom) I think KN and JW are wise to his limited talent.

    • The whole “like” thing, which he pulled on Samuels. Is Juan low enough to say that AL (who is said to be a lesbian) “liked” Jodi because she was attracted to her too? Wouldn’t that be somthin’!

  19. This is why HLN was praying (preying it seems like) for there not to be a mistrial yesterday.

    The cable channel’s coverage of the Arias murder trial — she is accused of killing her ex-boyfriend in 2008 at his Arizona home — gave its first quarter numbers a nice boost, according to Nielsen. In March alone, HLN saw its total day ratings increase by 53% and prime time was up almost 50%. For the first three months, HLN is up 17% in total day and 12% in prime.
    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-arias-trial-lifts-hln-ratings-20130402,0,7659076.story

      • unfortunately, many of the explanations are quite vague, and poorly written, in my opinion

        i noted one clear error>

        BEYOND THE SCOPE
        Objection, Your Honor, this is beyond the scope of the direct
        Permissible questions during cross, redirect, and recross must be related to information gathered during direct examination. Questions during redirect cannot go beyond the scope of cross, and questions during recross cannot go beyond the scope of redirect; and so on.

        the correct position is as set out here>
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-examination

        In the United States federal courts, a cross-examining attorney is typically not permitted to ask questions that do not pertain to the testimony offered during direct examination, but most state courts do permit a lawyer to cross-examine a witness on matters not raised during direct examination. Similarly, courts in England, Australia, and Canada allow a cross-examiner to exceed the scope of direct examination.

        cross examinations in jodi’s case, arizona, are NOT limited to testimony raised on direct

        therefore, if you’re interested read another source

        try this …
        from the ones i read they are well written, and with precision

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_objections_(law)

        maybe someone else has another good source for Objections ?

  22. It is my first time posting on this page, however a daily reader. I am grateful for this site. There is one thing that has bothered me a great deal that I can’t seem to shake. During Jodi’s direct and cross examination, she testifies to all the things she does on her road trip prior to arriving in Mesa. Starbucks, gas, Walmart etc. Who the hell gets their nails done “IF” their intentions are to go kill someone?????? I don’t believe for one second Jodi premeditated anything. Would getting your nails done be on your list of things to do before you whack someone?

    • I agree a lot of her actions before she left for her trip to not shout Premeditation. Plus she used her credit card instead of cash along the way. This all happened in a blink of an eye. She was there for a good part of the day taking pictures too that just does not make sense. Of course so much does not add up or make sense, .

    • Welcome, Diana!

      Yes, that is a good point! Why make all of those side stops in general if you’re so fueled with hatred that you’re on your way to kill someone?

      • Exactly! Thank you for the welcomes. It’s been my experience that people that are orchestrating a serious crime don’t typically primp themselves first.

    • Diana,

      sarcasm full on:

      Of course one would stop to get their nails done especially if one is scheming to shoot and knife your lover to death … all psychopaths would insist their nails look beautiful as they flail about between strikes!!! 😉

      • Next question…Do “psychopaths” usually cleanly shave (everything) just before they butcher a loved one? Or put their hair in braids? The braids are “hot” ya know? The only thing Jodi premeditated was a roll in the hay.

  23. I am gonna miss this site when this is over. It’s the only place I can go to avoid the Nancy/HLN zombies who aren’t really paying attention to the trial but to the sensationalism of The Talking Head! Hopefully, it will continue to be a safe haven for rational human beings to keep up with the progress of an acquitted Jodi’s new life in which she reaches her original goals and dreams.

      • Thanks again, SJ.. I just went and looked at your sister page about Casey Anthony. I wish I had known about it back then. I was a heavy poster on the Sunny Hostin page, and I received numerous death threats for stating my opinion.

        I am so glad you exist, and that you have given people who think for themselves rather than the sheeple a place to go that is safe, intelligent, and enlightening. 😀

        • What happened to Sunny? Did they eject her from their club? Excommunicate her b/c she refused to bear the spawn of Satan for them? What?

        • Refresh my memory on Sunny Hostin? The Casey-haters didn’t like her, if I recall correctly.

          • She was one of the unbiased commentators during the trial. She refused to drink HLN’s koolaid.

      • I wish I would have known about the Casey site as well. I just finished reading Jose Baez’s book. It was very good.

        I am very curious SJ – Team Jodi if you ever had a chance to talk with Casey after the trial? I can’t help but be curious if she has been interested in Jodi’s trial. There are so many similarities (PTSD etc.).

        • I also wonder if Casey is watching this trial. I bet she has a great deal of empathy for Jodi, having been in the same position.

      • I’m glad you say this site will be here cuz this has replaced my morning news. It is good to have intelligent conversation before the day starts!

  24. It’s kind of funny how the Travis Taliban is getting all bent out of shape now that their boy isn’t looking so pristine.

  25. By the way SJ I like how you coined the phrase “The Travis Taliban”. So perfect.

    • Hi Joe! Unfortunately I can’t take credit for that one. It was posted a few times in the site by someone who’s name I can never remember, but it’s an apt description from a group of no-good bums that want to kill everyone. Yay!

      SJ
      Team Jodi

  26. Has anyone found the comment from Chris Hughes’s brother about how Sky will shred defense if she is called to the stand? I can’t find it but would love to read it ! I thinks she is purposely watching the trial so the prosecution can object to her being called as a defense whitness. Sneaky

  27. Hi All-
    forgive me for asking again, but I haven’t had any replies….

    Does anyone know what happend with the Defense claim of Pros Misconduct from JM’s photo op last week? Mr. Nurmi was supposed to supply more evidence to the Court and this appears to have disappeared once the Juror #5 debacle took center stage.

    Any info is apreciated.
    Thanks

    • I have heard nothing. I imagine Judge Boney Head-bobber ruled in the favor of Kermi.

      • thanks Renee-
        I fear she ruled in favor of JM again, but I was hoping for more info to come forward and for it to be televised as it was with Jean(HLN) last week.

  28. I was hoppeing that JW could keep AL on the stand till the end of tomorrow. Let the jury digest what she said over the weekend…besides I dn’t know if I can take a day of JM…..

  29. Sherry Stephens’s Diary

    Trial Day 39

    128 lbs. (v. bloody g. but what is point? forced to wear bloody ugly robe), alcohol units 2 (excellent), sidebars 87, objections ruled incorrectly 3100 (poor) games of solitaire 19.

    1 p.m. Oh God, why am I so unauthoritative? Cannot believe I convinced myself I was keeping the entire trial on track when in fact I was on permanent assist-your-getting-a-book-deal standby. Hideous, wasted 39 days glaring psychopathically at the computer screen, and pretending to listen to things. Why hasn’t HarperCollins rung? Why? What’s wrong with me? Why ask for my phone number if they weren’t going to ring, and if they were going to ring surely they would do it over the weekend? Must center myself more. Will ask Dick about appropriate self-help book, possible Law-of-Attraction-based.

    3 p.m. Phone call alert, which turned out to be just Hubs, asking if there was any telephonic progress. Hubs, who has taken, unflatteringly, to calling himself a rag-fag, has been sweetly supportive about the HarperCollins crisis. He indulged me while I obsessed to him about my unauthoritativeness crisis–precipitated, as I told him, first by bloody Juan Martinez (more later on his unfortunate Easter Egg dying accident involving his (eek!) hair!) then by bloody HarperCollins at which point he said, I must say not particularly helpfully, “Juan Martinez? But isn’t he that famous lawyer–the rock star/victims’ rights guy?”

    Hmmm. Well, anyway. What about my victim’s right not to have to wander round with fearsome unauthoritativeness hangup?

  30. who ever put this site together is very good with computer knowledge HLN have been taking ther jury and poll about jodi I’d like to see one he on this site 19,000 that a vote did jodi stabe travis shot him in the head stabe him 29 time and slit his throat. for me my answer is no no no no no no no no no no no no no jody loved travis….

  31. Good morning everyone!

    Although not much can be added to Kira’s transcription of today’s events, I thought this would add a chuckle for everyone…

    JW: Alright Ms. LaViolette, I am handing you a stack of emails. I’ll let you have a moment to review them.

    AL: Ok. I’ve read them.

    JW: Can you tell us what is written on the “to line?

    AL: They indicate they went to “TA”

    JW: Can you tell us what is written on the “from” line?

    AL: wearelyingbastards@hughesville.com.

    JM: OBJECTION.

    Samantha Stephens: On what grounds?

    JM: On the grounds that it torpedoes my case!

    Thank you for running this site SJ and others. I don’t want to spew hate like the vultures do, however, I hope this site is around with its many members for some time to come, even if only to be a thorn in the side of the Traliban.

    What a breath of fresh air you all are! Thank you seems so inadequate but it is sincere. 🙂

    • It’s nice to see a lot of new poster names here…well new to me anyway. WELCOME EVERYONE :
      *\ 🙂 /*

  33. I hate to be a pain, but it’s 10:21 here in the Rockies on MT. We are not the same as PT time as is shown above on the live feed listing! It’s only AZ that won’t conform to the daylite savings rules! Ok, my pet peeve…’nuf said.

  34. Travis’ biggest abuse of Jodi was the push pull treatment which I believe he did not realize how damaging this could be on Jodi/s psyche especially because he was a religious mentor. I am sure he was ambivelent about women due to his family of orgin issues with his mother.Too bad AL was not there to help them both when Travis was alive!!

    • Did u ever read ‘Firestarter’ by Stephen King? This concept is really well described in it, the main characters have super powers to convince others to follow their will, but when they ‘push’ they never know how the person they are working on will react & some get pushed over the edge.

      • No Seektounderstand I have not. I watched the Hemy Neuman trial and learned about the powerful affect of that push pull manipulation that resulted in his crazy attachment to Andrea Sneiderman that resulted in another killing. It is a very powerful unhealthy attachment that can drive people to do crazy things if they are vulnerable!!

  35. well ev1 I think the tide is definately turning. I watched HLN after dark last night, for those that dont watch, its a silly show with a mock jury. they ask a question, defense and prosecution present their case, then they give a verdict.
    every night, the verdicts have been very lopsided towards prosecution, of course. Well low and behold, last night they asked “did jodi use men” (stupidi know, but bear with me) and viola! for the first time, jury was split 6 guilty, 5 not guilty.
    why doI think this is significant? well to me, I think this is directly reflecting the “turning of the tide” indirect relation to ALVs testimony. The truth is coming out, and several people even went so far as to say “the men used Jodi”
    YAHOO!!!! now lets hope getting #5 off the jury will assure Jodi a fair a just verdict….NOT GUILTY!!!

  37. JM is going to have a run for his money. Yester AL kept saying the word “say” and then she said I probably need a Thesaurus. I took that as a dig to JM. I would love her to say, “I am sorry but I cannot answer that question until you ask It in a more respectful manner, Mr. Martinez.”

    • Oh yes, she is more than ready for that little guy with the funny black wig who refers to himself in the third person…

  39. Anybody see this? Honestly it was probably a hater…we know how GREAT they are at interpreting things. I bet the juror was shaking her head because she didn’t believe Jodi. I think they got rid of a pro-prosecution juror. Aren’t the haters funny??

    http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/jodi-arias-trial-update-was-excused-juror-already-in-hot-water

    HERE is a SNIP:

    According to the transcript, the caller claims there are reports that the juror needs to be watched.

    “The one with multi-colored hair is attempting to coach Arias from the jury box. She shakes her head no, no, no to tell Jodi not to answer a question,” the caller alleged in the message on Stephens’ voicemail.

    • BeeCee,

      My guess is that this person heard that this juror was in favor of Jodi, and so made that call. Which it does not seem like this juror was (according to that description I read from the person in the courtroom).

      According to HLN, all of the jurors nod, shake their heads, or make some movements. This is complete nonsense. All that hype about the possibility of someone being in favor of Jodi, this person clearly wanted to make sure Jodi had no allies. I doubt it is true at all.

      Again, if it came out during the 1 on 1 with the jurors that juror #5 was pro-Jodi, Martinez would have filed the motion, not Nurmi. Of this, I am fairly sure.

    • I saw that too BeeCee. I agree, the juror was probably a pro-prossie. If I were in that jury box, I wouldn’t be doing anything to distract Jodi from testifying. Also, HLN would be all over this if the juror were really pro-defense. They’d be blabbing about how “oh it doesn’t look good for Jodi” ect with the smug satisfaction they usually have.

  40. I’d love to see Dr. Drew invite the fathers of all the girls Travis played onto his show.

    • I would like to see Mr Drew invite the families of the 18% percent of his patient’s families that have committed suicide. I won’t call him a doctor, that’s a high rate of suicides for your care

  45. HE sneaked into HER house after Jodi’s roommates went to sleep? Well, well…

  46. SJ or anybody else,
    I’m desperate,I sooo want to write to Jodi but this kind of metered,no-stamp on postcards do not exist in Greece.
    Sorry to bother you with my questions but I went to the post office today and they only have postcards with a pre-paid stuck on stamp.I guess they won’t do,right?Since the stamp is on. 🙁

    • My metered stamp was stuck on, but it was placed there by the post-office, and was marked as such. Not sure if Jodi ever got it.

    • Thank you both.I know the jail rule is ‘no stamps on’ so I wouldnt like risking sending her cards upon cards and her never receiving them,it seems futile.Yeah…I’ll try and contact the jail,perhaps…

    • Maria, I read somewhere that they can take the stamps off, but I don’t know if that’s outdated information or not.

      It might not be a bad idea to call the jail and see what they say about it.

  48. Juan doesn’t have the slam dunk he thought he had! Really, if his case is so open and shut why all the objections? It wouldnt’ matter what was in the emails or journals. His case is weak!

    • That is what I think. If he was so confident he would let these emails in to show there is knowing to them. I hope someone on the Jury picks up on him trying his best to keep the info out.

  49. Where is Maggie’s youtube video with the gun pointing at kermit when I need it?????

    Cause I really need it now against that lugie of a man.

    (disclaimer, I do not advocate shooting prosecutors, I am simply expressing my displeasure over his slimy behaviour)

  51. Kermit……Kermit……Kermit……Kermit……can you sit down and shut up for even 10 minute straight????

  52. Need a favor. Am at the hospital. Child having surgery. Since I can’t watch, can someone give a blow by blow write up on what’s happening? Thanks much, in advance.

  53. I like Jodi much better as a brunette. She has sensational hair! What is with her having blond hair so much of the time? Was that her preference or Travis’s or someone else’s?

    • I remember her saying she was a blonde for 5 years prior to dying it back to brown in 2008.

      • Thanks. She’s very pretty as a brunette. I’ve always been partial to brunette’s anyway.

    • She does have beautiful hair. I noticed yesterday how full and pretty it looked. And that’s using jail shampoo!

  54. HLN’s thought provoking question on FB today is: Will blaming the victim work for Arias??

  55. If Travis’s house was sliding into foreclosure, why did he buy a $1500 camera to shoot porn with Jodi, instead of paying his mortgage?

  57. I looked up Dr.Drew on Wikipedia, I think this statement there pretty much describes his problem, and he is now failing at this:
    “As The New York Times described it in February 2008, Pinsky’s dual career in medicine and the mass media has required him to “navigat[e] a precarious balance of professionalism and salaciousness.”[11]”

    I do agree with others here that some on HLN are coming around a little, but not Pinsky, because this case is hitting his own issues. I don’t usually believe in adultery, but I think if he needs anal sex so desperately, and his wife isn’t into it, then he should go to a prostitute (male or female) already.

  58. Is the Troll objecting just because he can? It’s pretty silly to keep objecting when it’s going to be overruled.
    It will be a very interesting cross.

  59. They’re talking about Christmas, do any of you think they’ll mention the msg TA rcvd about the little boy and probation? ???

  61. Hi Jodi supporters good to be here this morning. So last night I briefly told my mom this trial and after she saw TA’s autopsy pics, she doesn’t think Jodi did this on her own. She thinks more people were involved. I think it’s common sense.

  62. JA crying when LV brought up similarity to incest victims. Interesting. I don’t think we will ever know what all has happened in Jodi’s lifetime.

  65. work is makng me miss soo much……anyone can cliff notes whats going on today

    any bombshells

    • Eb,
      Evidently C and S Hughes did not know TA like thy THOUGHT they knew him…TA had everyone fooled into thinking he was a “saint”. Little did they know about his private life and what he was like under that facade. I hope they watched day 41 of the trial…that 16 page IM was hardly saintlike nor was the audio sex tape, nor was his stringing along several women at the same time. The site you link is anti-Jodi through and through…just saying. Were you trying to make some kind of point?

  71. How sad…of all people the person that knew TA the most was Jodi and till this day she protects him, yet he betrayed her with everyone. She deserved better!!!

    • I know Suzy and its so obvious! She must still hurt. Everything shes been through and what she HAD to do.

  73. Hhhmmm, from reading all the comments sounds like jm is busy with his ‘jections’ again. But, we must be grateful for small mercies – atleast he is not busy with his er*ctions! Lol (sorry, I went there) At the hospital and going nuts waiting for the feed back from surgeon.

    • Thank you AJ, Dorothy, Maria! I do call my 3 boys ‘Angels’ actually 🙂 He had an emergency appendectomy and is doing well now, altho taking a lot of pain meds. I’ll try to get caught up on the wknd.

  74. I pray to God that (apart from a positive outcome )Jodi at least finds some peace of mind.I pray that these testimonies are a liberating experience for her,we all agree that she still has feelings for TA,but I want to see her FRO ONCE to focus on herself,start building her self esteem,realize how much she was harmed and hurt and start working on her healing process.
    Watching her crying is just so heart breaking.

  75. It’s strange. There is something about Jodi that makes me like her where with Casey Anthony there was something that made me not like her.
    Although I believe that the jury got it right in the Casey Anthony trial. I hope that Jodi’s jury gets it right too.

    • I like Casey :). She went through hell at the hands of her father, and she truly loved Caylee. You can see it in the pictures of them.

  76. Jodi looks so sad. She is reliving everything through this witness, and realizing what was happening to her with Travis. The slow boiling that AL spoke of really made it crystal clear what he was doing to her. It must be extremely painful knowing that if she took a different path her life would not be in ruins now. I despise what TA did to her.

    • I agree, shes sitting there hearing all of it from an expert. Imagine, when you hear it from someone else, it hurts even more.

    • Yes, she was very sad, also about what happened to the cat that ALV spoke of in her analogy. I feel very sorry for her, it did bring it all back, but I’m sure she also felt a sense of relief too.

      Ooops its back on.

  77. Hmmm interesting.. I posted on azcentral yesterday and my photo showed, I go to post something else today to answer someone.. and it won’t let me post, not only that, but when I clicked to comment there was no photo of me at all, just a ‘ghost’.. also, something I posted before has been removed! All I said was ”in a novel”…

    Sounds like I know whose side they’re on.. whatever happened to Free Speech?

    Blimey! Frog has objected and Alyce hasn’t even said anything!

    • Sounds like they ARE one sided…Thanks for giving us the heads up not to bother…this is evidence that they do NOT abide by free speech…sad and appalling! Evidently what you wrote was enough to strike a nerve of reality and they don’t want to accept reality.

    • I guess we’ll never know.It’s likely however,he had such a troubled childhood.

    • I think there are many of TA’s behaviors as an adult, if you take that into consideration of the lack of adult supervision as a child, there is a high probability that he was….IMO

      • * sorry for the wording in my post….trying to hide at work that I’m posting about the trial.

    • Yes I think so and maybe he thought he was gay :-/ Sorry no offense to gay people.

      • Yes, I think so too. I bkv he told jodi and he was taking all that anger out on her.

      • Suzy I have thought the same thing. Of course you meant no offense, but we understand it is a touchy subject.

        • Yup he took all his anger on Jodi and blamed her for his issues. She was his punching bag never taking responsibility for his issues. If he was looking at child porn I’m sure other people in the church did too and for all we know he could’ve taken a picture of that child. Who knows, but if maybe TA was abused it’s likely his siblings did too. Just a thought.

      • I don’t think that should be offensive. A relative of mine committed suicide because he didn’t want the public to know he was gay. Even today, some people go to extremes to hide their true selves because of the communities they live in, work in and their religious settings.

        • So sad. I can’t imagine how hard that would be in a Mormon community.

      • Most abusers will screw anything. You’d be surprised at the high percentage of them who engaged in sex with men and/or watched gay porn — as mine did. They have extremely high testosterone levels, generally. At 55, mine had the testosterone level of a 28-30 year old, his doctor said. That’s extremely unusual.

      • I share that opinion, as I posted yesterday:

        Some of the men who hate women are also homophobic and have repressed gay tendencies at the same time. My suspicions are that with the body building, watching UFC and wrestling, mixed with seducing and controlling women and boasting about it to his male friends, he wanted to convince himself and others that he was not gay. And yet he loved pretending and acted like a gay caricature as a clown, preferred anal sex, and sometimes posed with the gentle expression of a young girl on his photographs.

          • I have seen body builders experience “roid rage” (nickname by bodybuilders for steroid/hormone rage) in a gym I used to go to. It happens when their emotions malfunction due to the overload of testosterone. It is a very scary thing to witness. Certain things about TA that Jodi described (he looked like a wild animal, banging his head on the wall) sounds like “roid rage” to me. I wish the ME would have tested for it.

            • Sure. And going into a rage over a dropped camera. And Desiree Freeman testified to his anger flaring up just over the top on one of their trips.

        • oh,viri you’re so right! wrestling,screwing anally,giving boys’ underwear for Valentine’s day and dressing up in a girl’s wig really dont go together if you come to think about how macho of a guy he wanted to pass himself off as…

      • Lisa said once on her myspace page that Travis loved faux painting and show tunes.

        • My abuser was bi sexual, I didn’t even know it until the crime bureau came to interview me after he committed murder. This was 1991, and I thank God every day that I didn’t end up infected with AIDS.

          • Me too my ex-husband/abuser was also bi-sexual and I am thankfully too that he never gave me AIDS I never knew he was cheating on me with men and women until the divorce.

      • Soooooooooooo have I. I have thought this all along so when Jodi said he preferred anal sex then I really thought it more.

  79. I really adore JW! I LOVE how she gets so exasperated with kermy….!!! She is so professional and classy! I love how she rephrases the SAME question and gets it in!!!! WOOHOOO JW/JODI!!!!

    I can’t watch Jodi cry…I’m a mother and my mommy heart kicks in…

      • I agree she has classy lawyers on her side. Things don’t happen by coincidence:)

    • I love JW, too. She is smart and classy which makes her very beautiful.

      It is hard to watch Jodi cry – I had to stop watching and only listen. Funny (and sad) how certain things can trigger memories years later.

  80. Ooohhhh … THIS is what the haters were talking about that Martinez was going to chew her head of, that he caught her in an error lying! !!! Im glad Wilmot cleared it up now but Martinez will try to make it a bigger deal.

    My Question is, HOW DID THEY KNOW???!!!!! Is Martinez talking to someone in the media???? Hhhmmm I think he is, he’s been doing shady shit, talking to people about this trail to someone.

    • I think you’re right, LC. I have thought that state colluded with media all along. I think they do this to create hatred towards the defendant so as to always put blame on others for their spending. (Like now they blame Jodi for this cost, even though she is entitled to a defense, instead of the blaming the state for not accepting a reasonable deal in the first place.)

  81. As I watch I can’t help but think how difficult the cross will be for JM, I mean, how will he constantly object and keep track of his out-of-sequence questioning at the same time? …. quite the dilemma…

    • He will attempt to trip her up but I see LV as having an excellent memory. Notice that she does not have any notes and is testifying to names, dates, etc using her memory.

      • I noticed that, too. She’s very impressive! I think JM will trip himself up easier than he will ALV.

      • Her memory is amazing!!! Even when she has to revise an e-mail she only has to glance at it or just skim through it to refresh her recollection.Guess Martinez cant play the ‘Do you have problems with your memory ma’am?” card! If he does,it’ll be out of desperation!

  82. Alyce is giving me quite an education and a fascinating education it is. She is amazing,

    • I started watching and got so disgusted at it I had to turn it off. From what I did see, I think that was TA’s true self.

      • They should have AL explain why he develped that character, Plus alot of comedians come from backrounds of pain. I am sure AL knew about that character that he played

  84. While ALV was reviewing something, JW did a quick look over at Jodi to see if she was okay. 🙂

  85. I can’t wait for JM to ask her “Do you hate men?” and she responds “No Mr. Martinez I do not hate men but I do dislike abusers like you”

    • I just can’t see this woman getting flustered. She is going to play mind games with the Troll by simply being honest.

      • Remember, LV said that she does mock trials to teach prosecutors how to XE in DV areas. JM will not fluster LV nor will he look good to the jury if he goes into his typical attack mode (which I think he will).

    • She will probably reiterate what she stated on the stand that she, “likes people, I haven’t met many people I don’t like. People fascinate me”. She deals with abusive men and she seems to imply that she has empathy for them. She certainly UNDERSTANDS them very well. JM is probably a bit uncomfortable about cross with ALV… She probably already has more of a clue about how to handle his aggressive approach than HE has on how to deal with her calm reaction…(I have no doubt she will remain calm under his most desperate attempts to unhinge her). Maybe he will ask her for her card when the trial is through 😉

    • “So the hate they are spewing is being sucked up in record numbers by the ignorant and the mindless.” It is disgusting. It reminds me of a movie called “Idiocrasy.”

    • Yeah, and George Zimmerman’s trial starts soon after Jodi’s ends. HLN will get their summer ratings too! Barf.

      • Yep, and gasbag Al NoneTooSharpton will be doing his show from the trial every night!:-(((

          • Tawana Brawley!!!!:-( Not to mention he’s buddies with that sick fuck Farahkahn.

            • Wow! Hmmm…..let’s keep it friendly shall we? Calling people names like that is a bit much isn’t it? Let’s keep this about Jodi and the trial. My opinion, and my hope.

    • Is it possible we could send a team into HLN and rescue Robin Meade from her early morning show? She’s the only decent person on HLN and I’m sure she’s being held there against her will.

  87. Put J.M. in a pot of boiling water,oh I forgot he’s already in one. Heres something I came up with last night ,don’t know if everybody saw it. FROM THE MUPET MOVIE. Why are there so many gray hair on my little frog head? Why do the people love me so much? Gray hairs are visions that I’m losing this case and gray hairs I have to hide. So we’ve been told to go out the back door and not sign any canes in sight.I know Kermi and Jennifer are wrong.I think judge pickles sees my side. But someday will find it that gray hair connection, for now I’ll be THE ROCK STAR.

  89. I love how calm ALV is while testifying.Even when Jennifer asks her a question that she knows is important to Jodi’s defense,she calmly answers with a great air of assertiveness,of course due to her expertise!!Especially when she says”No,it doesnt sound strange to me” oh you gotta love that! There you go haters,Jodi is not the alien you presented her to be ,making unfounded claims,ABUSE is real!!

  90. Hello all! Long time reader, first time poster. To be perfectly honest, I don’t know what I truly believe regarding Jodi’s innocence or guilt. I am very open minded and watch the trial daily. The only thing I know for sure is that both JA and TA had issues, and I believe he treated her like a piece of shit for most of their relationship. That being said, there’s so much I am on the fence about.
    My question is, what do you guys think of her parent’s interviews with the police? They seem damning to me, but I sincerely want to know what some of y’all think.
    I can’t help but feel deeply for both of these families, JA’s mom’s tears broke my heart! And I have tremendous sympathy for TA’s siblings as well.

    • I wanted to add that I appreciate this site because I hear enough of the haters point of view on HLN so it’s nice to see where people that believe in her innocence are coming from.

      P.S. I do not believe she is guilty of murder in the first degree. What I am on the fence about is 2nd degree, manslaughter or self defense.

  91. oh wow unconditional love. She was happy for him with Mimi. So there…. she was not jeolous of him moving on and you can hear that in her phone call as well.

    • How could she?She’s a deeply kind-hearted person,in every sense of the word.

    • Yeah! And the statement that she never saw any jealousy by Jodi in any of the emails/texts! So if JM comes up with an email or text now he would have to explain how it didn’t get turned over in Discovery – and answer what else is out there that wasn’t turned over.

  92. I am so sick of gallery distractions any time they say something not liked by LOUD coughing!!

    • In some countries,for example in Bulgaria when you go to the theather and the audience is not satisfied by the performance of the actors they have the right to protest by coughing!

      • I remember Kieth Jarret asked everyone in one of his concerts to cough and get it out so he could continue. Notice in this trial how very few cough dring prosecution case. The judge should do something about it.

      • This is a message to the jury. It is like screaming out I do not like this!! Do you think lawyers have brought it up? I remember JW looking back at gallery once during loud coughing jag some time ago.

  93. The TT are so hateful. They refuse to LOOK at evidence that TA was a douche, and abusive. They read the texts, see his blog, hear of emails, and ignore them all!

    Can you imagine being one of those folks’ daughters?

    Daughter: “Mom, my boyfriend kicked me and called me a three hole wonder.”

    Hater: “Well, you are a skank and a whore and you deserve it.”

    • Yikes – i was just posting along the same lines while you were! I guess we see all this evidence and it is hard to believe they are in such denial.

      • Do these people have children?Sisters?Cousins?Female friends?
        Would they want their beloved ones to be treated like that?Would they still call it a normal relationship??

        • I think they are so blinded they can’t stop to think about the women in their lives. All they see is red and hatred for Jodi.. And when “experts” say this is just a normal relationship it just gives abusers more leverage and for women not to stand up to this abuse because they are being told it is normal. How disgusting just to sell ratings.

        • Ya that is what I say too! really after hearing all this I would really be WEARY if my SISTER called me up an said she just met a nice MORMON MAN ! I WOULD FREAK OUT ! she is in Phoenix AZ too. My daughter don’t have to worry about her she likes really bad boys that have been in prison so we are not talking anyways. It would do her good to find a Mormon though at least then I would know why we aren’t speaking haha

    • Renee, Truer words have never been typed. 🙂
      This morning I was on Twitter at #JodiArias where the Haters congregate and after being ganged up on for being a Jodi supporter I said “If you folks actually listened to the testimony instead of taking what the #TravisTaliban tells you as gospel you might learn something”
      They don’t want to learn anything. They want Jodi dead and nothing short of her death will make them happy no matter what the evidence and testimony says.

  94. Haters will continue to be stupid… just this morning I got a message from a hater (again) stating that there is no evidence that TA was into 12 year old girls or that he enjoyed rape. ????? Denial much?

    • TA: I’m going to tie you to a tree and fuck you up the ass.
      TA: You sound like a 12 year old girl having an orgasm – hot.
      TA: Those pigtails are hot.
      Picture: pigtails

      I don’t know how they ignore these facts.

      • And their answer to that is he’s reading a script…. seriously delusional. I finally posted to the haters that THEY were the reason abuse (especially sexual) continues – the denial they are in allows it to go on.

        • Was it in the “script” for Jodi to ask Travis what a cream pie was? She had no idea and he was the expert.

      • TA: When I am done with you, you feel like you were raped, and you will love it.

        • And these endearing texts he sent to her:

          ‘You are the ultimate slut in bed,’

          ‘You will feel like you are being raped and enjoy every minute of it.

          ‘You’ll rejoice in being a whore, have animalistic sex with me and pleasing me in any way I desire.’

  96. does anyone else feel a little justified now………..

    I want to scream I TOLD U SO

  97. I have a feeling that ALV needs to use the ladies room..I think I saw her trying to get someone’s attention during that last side bar. She seems to be a bit fidgety. They should have a certain signal or button someone could press in the event they need to “go”.

  99. Mr Nurmi is not showing his socks 🙁 but I’m liking his tie :)…Just needed to divert my attention for the serious and intense testimony. Sorry to anyone who finds this offensive. This a personal defense mechanism I think.

    • It’s okay with me – I think a defense mechanism is good. Personally, this is very difficult to watch. And I go to the hater sites to respond because I get filled with anger (what they say is what was also said about me by my own family after the abuse came out). My ex spent years grooming them so when the truth came out, he looked like an angel while I looked like the culprit, so it is very personal to me. Listening to ALV is opening some wounds that I guess have not been healed even though it has been years. I think I need to find a better diversion (like you have) instead of going to the hater sites.

  101. I have HLN on & they are playing tapes of Jodi’s parents being interviewed by the police. Her parents are just as gullible & trusting of authority figures as Jodi is.

    • Her Parents are Horrid especially the Father & now the Media Dr.Drew is running saying even her parents. I don’t think they are trusting their obvious child abusers who are running for cover the mother says she made up stories about us. Please one look at these Pathetic Parents, who would not believe she was abused.

      • The tapes have no business being played on national television. I don’t even take those tapes seriously at all since they were made years ago.

        • The Tapes do confirm what horrible Parents they are, Jodi’s description was of child abusers her Sister had problems and also her Brother, In my opinion her Father is a creep! No wonder she went out with Travis speaks volumes!

          • But then again, there is no reason at all those tapes should be out there.

            Since her family has been in court with her every day of this trial, I think any conflict she had with her parents has long since been buried.

            • Her Father is not in court only her Mother and Aunt The Tapes shouldn’t be there but even her haters some have shown a little empathy from having Parents like that. Its pretty transparent.

  102. Any idea why the other defense lawyer is taking notes? I had not observed her doing this before. She is the one that is not sitting at the table with KN and Jodi.

  103. Seems to me that Travis’ violent reactions following Jodi being aware of the attraction to little boys is an extension of his fear that she will expose him. In is his desperation to try to stifle her sharing this, he is relying on regaining control of Jodi in other ways.

    • Yes, control at all costs through cajoling, threatening, condescending and debasing. Plus, he was addicted to her being his always available sex toy and punching bag. Whenever she rebelled, he seduced her back into the mold.

    • Yeah, I’d been thinking about the pedophilia discussions btw JA & TA – someone with an anger problem could really go into a rage over this type of accusation. Even if it weren’t true. I do think someone like TA could get into a murderous rage to try to keep it under wraps if it were true.

  106. The only thing I have seen so far that JM can beat to death is ALV said that Travis slapped her across the face in the car. Jodi made a big deal about how it wasn’t her face, it was more the side of her face/neck.

    • Sounds like he was aiming for her face and she turned her head. And the side of your face is STILL your face.

      • Try telling JM that! LOL. He will make a huge deal about it since the two stories aren’t exactly the same. He will twist and turn it every which way to prove one or both of them are lying about the whole incident.

      • Maybe during their little recess the judge will have the cougher removed from the courtroom. I hope so.

      • I’m a people reader…noticed her distress and there was far too much time between her signals and the break…I hope no embarrassing situation occurred…THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE SIGNAL BUTTONS LOCATED IN THE WITNESS AND JURY BOXES in the event that someone needs to use the facilities! It’s a wonder no one has designed such a thing. A witness/ juror shouldn’t have to announce to the world that they have to “go”. !!

  109. It doesn’t surprise me that Jodi had problems with her mom. Look how easy her mom offers up to a POLICE INVESTIGATOR, “Jodi has mental problems….people called and said she needs help.” Where did you get your degree mom, and way to “remain silent.” Jeez louise, if you had been more suspicious would you have served her up on a silver platter? Hey we’ve all gone on an emotional roller coaster over a crappy relationship. Jodi didn’t like to have her over because she still snooped into her stuff after Jodi was an adult. Talk about no boundaries mom.

  110. kermit’s defeated but argues still
    reminds me of some lines

    http://allpoetry.com/poem/8460787-The_Village_Schoolmaster_wbr_-by-Oliver_Goldsmith

    The Village Schoolmaster by Oliver Goldsmith

    In arguing too, the parson own’d his skill,
    For e’en though vanquish’d he could argue still;
    While words of learned length and thund’ring sound
    Amazed the gazing rustics rang’d around;
    And still they gaz’d and still the wonder grew,
    That one small head could carry all he knew.

  114. Mornin’ all, great post as always SJ. 🙂 Thanks for posting the Secret too!

    ALV is rocking on as usual. Jodi’s mom is wearing her purple ribbon with white in her shirt again. <3

  117. Off topic…

    I watched a fascinating movie last night on PBS called “Kind Hearted Woman.” It’s about a Sioux woman who struggles with surviving childhood sexual abuse, navigating tribal law and politics, pressing charges against her husband for raping her daughter, and taking a journey to sobriety. She also posts video updates to her situation for viewers who are moved by and follow her story.

    I thought others here would be interested in looking into it. Warning: will move you to tears.

    Ok, back to your regularly scheduled program.

    • That woman is better than me – if my ex husband raped my daughter – I would have gone Lorena Bobbit on him – he wouldn’t have been able to rape another woman again. God Bless her and her daughter!

      • Oh I almost forgot to mention, during the course of the movie she worked with abused women and taught childhood sexual abuse prevention programs too.

    • The part that got to me is when the daughter (12 years old, I think) is crying and doesn’t want to tell anyone about her father sexually abusing her because she’s afraid he will go to jail. She’s trying to protect her father in spite of what he’s doing to her. So sad.

      • I vote sabatoge.

        For some reason my twitter account was suspended in the last couple of hours. I’m sure it was no good reason.

        Truthfully, I wish we had a planet without all the haters.

        I don’t go around hacking on people, or attacking amazon books, or etc etc.

        • I vote sabotage too, every time I come here, my anti-virus program says it has removed a trojan. Haters hating.

        • I know all this hate that is becoming this huge lynch mob is quite sickening to know that this is the direction that our country is turning to. I just do not understand all this hate and trying to sabotage sites and harass witnesses as well as her defense team. I have never seen so many death threats. I guess hiding behind a computer gives them the courage to do this.

    • I am starting to think it is Hackers doing something?

      Feeling a bit of pressure from the haters out there. This is the only place to come
      to feel like I am not alone. Really tired of feeling UP an then DOWN again.

      These tapes that came out now with Jodi’s parents have the public in a RAGE
      yet again the HLN AN CNN keep them all going I hate to say hate but I feel great
      discontent with people that want to CRUCIFY someone without knowing all the
      facts. Some of these people only watch HLN you can tell they state word for word’
      what those sites say. Getting really tired of it.

      I can see why Jodi was living with her grandparents now very sad with parents
      like that you do not need enemies. Do people not watch TV an know that what
      you say to those COPS is always on TV later ? WTH !

      I know from watching so much crime tv I would not say a damn word in those rooms
      they put you in. They try an get you to say anything an hold it against you later. Or twist
      it around an even splice tapes so it sounds worse than maybe it was. People are EVIL!

    • Hi OregonMom! We have had numerous discussions about this very thing… if you look at other days you will see.

    • OregonMom is pedaling sensationalist rubbish, in my opinion, from a drivel site : radaronline

      FROM a couple of sentences that i read, the article is a totally unsupported piece of drivel, not emanating from Jodi, but “jodi arias friend”, who allegedly regularly visits Jodi, and just by some happened to talk to the author of that drivel

      HERE’S some of the other links at radaronline:

      a b rushed to hospital in an ambulance “i’m really scared for her, ” says hubby

      another,
      c d dines with pretty brunette in london

      and another,
      e f “real flirty husband of g h !
      e f’s hot hubby accused of hitting women

      IF that’s not enough, there’s a side column headed “Hottest Photos right now”

      oregonmom, or whoever you are, quit pedaling, and posting this bizarre sensationalist rubbish here

      MAYBE you work at radaronline, and are aiming to boost circulation ?

      GO post at a site that welcomes “retweets” of this tabloid drivel.

      ALSO, i see couldn’t do that at radaronline, because i see they don’t have a comments section

      WHICH clearly means, the owners and writers of the drivel at radaronline don’t expect to be taken seriously, except by the feeble minded, low information crowd

      • No I was stating my feeling from early on. I saw the slashed throat remembered my reading about Blood Atonement started researching it and thought it fit. I posted the article because its the first time I saw it brought up concerning this trial. I suggest you research Blood Atonement!

        • I was agreeing with the blood atonement part…I don’t know what Wes was getting at as I didn’t visit the link you posted…I saw something on a video about blood atonement and it was BEFORE this trial began…It was the first thing that came to mind when I became aware that TA was found with his throat slit ear to ear. Wes seems very passionate though (?)

        • OregonMom
          thank you for your reply
          I unequivocally accept your statement of good faith 🙂

          I haven’t seen the photo you referred to. i know such can be grisly

          I have no qualms about the violence of ta’s homicide, which jodi claims was in self defense her testimony rings true, i believe her, and her claim of self defense from the all testimony i’ve heard, or seen, everything is consistent with, and supportive of her claim of self defense

          RECENTLY, i’d briefly looked at radaronline, and thought it a sensationalist website.
          I still do.
          OTHERS here, including you, have more closely examined the substance of that matter, including the blood atonement, etc.
          I don’t see any evidence for such at the moment, so, to me, it is not a live issue in the trial, just speculation.

          I’M aware of the general nature of the mormon blood atonement.
          FROM what i know of it, it was apparently contained in the mormon oath of vengeance in response to the death of joseph smith, and is contained in their liturgy, to the fourth generation

          AL’s testimony has been a revelation to me, and is more support for jodi.

          IF i was the judge, when i found out about the prosecution withholding the e-mails, etc and their other improper actions, i wouldn’t have ordered a retrial, i would have imposed a much heavier sanction on the prosecution, i would have dismissed the case “with prejudice”, which means that it is the end of it, no retrials, finito

          THAT would tell the prosecution, withhold evidence at your risk.

          • Wes,
            AL’s testimony certainly has been a revelation to me as well. She sort of pulled everything together. I agree that the issue of blood atonement is speculation, but somehow, even with AL’s testimony, something in me cannot dismiss the fact that the throat slashing was not a crime committed by Jodi. Call it intuition, call it common sense, call it speculation…whatever. Somehow that action, SO closely resembling the blood atonement ritual, and the fact that Travis was NOT on the good side of MANY Mormons or that he was a “sinner” among them would make him a prime candidate for such.
            I think Jodi’s self defense is the whole truth.[even if it is in regard to defending herself against intruders AND/OR Travis (?) ] I also believe she cannot recall anything to do with the knife because there is NOTHING to remember…SHE DIDN’T DO THAT PART. The throat slashing just doesn’t fit…to me. This is my opinion and it may not count for much but I’m sticking to it. Maybe SOMEDAY the ENTIRE truth will be revealed.

            • Yes, there is more to the story, if you ask me, and the email with all the fanatical talk sounds like somebody who would believe in blood atonement don’t you thunk?

              • You know I been thinking about that letter an the tire slashing crap. An now knowing how much a snake Travis really was. I would not put it past him to do that himself to scare Lisa. An make everyone believe Jodi was just ape shit crazy. An it worked Lisa let him spend the night she was so scared !! what a great ploy.

                Now it could have been Lisa’s ex bf also but I don’t know his traits so well. I just have a gut feeling it was the VIRGIN HUNTER TRAVIS.

                • Rhonda in Alabama, That Travis did it himself (the letter, tire slashing) crossed my mind too. There is so much deception from Travis that is now being revealed by ALV that I wouldn’t put it past him…snake is right! AND odd…IMO

            • I too agree with that Dorothy. She says she did it. But she also said to FLORES one time I guess I did everyone says I did. She remembers the gun shot an hitting the floor. I think she was unconscious an woke up to a freaking mess. I do not think she did that laundry either. I think she grabbed the few things an got the hell out of there. An drove like she said not knowing really what all happened.

              They should have done a head scan to see if she had a concussion she was thrown on that tile 2 times the body slam an the hit when she shot him I do not believe she never hit her head. An who knows the actual time she left that house? she did say the sun was in her eyes I think an she just drove into it. So she left before dark. Those roommates were right on her tail or one was there before she left out?

              • Rhonda in Alabama,
                I think she was passed out too. When she was first interviewed she seems utterly confused and absolutely sincere..She describes the pants that she owns but they don’t fit the description of the pants in that photo that was taken accidentally after TA’s death. I also think there is SO much to this story that has not been told. I think they convinced her that she did it and she went along.. They should have done a brain scan/ x-ray…don’t know if it would be accurate in showing a concussion though (?)

    • Oh yes there are a lot of us that do not think she did this and others were involved. The evidence just does not make sense.

    • My gut says this is EXACTLY what happened and she is protecting herself and her family from threats. She probably feels more safe in jail. This explains why the roommates all kept their mouths shut while his body decomposed for 5 days under their noses.

    • ALV was signalling for at least 20 minutes that she had to use the facilities…after they finally took a 5 minute break Alyce said she couldn’t continue testimony today… The site going down may have been too much traffic?? Not sure.

  123. Can someone answer a question for me? I caught the witness discussing how Travis felt like having sex with women helped him feel more normal. Did she get that info from Jodi’s journal or from Travis’s texts?

    • Sam, it would be helpful to know where the information is coming from…I’m not sure.

      If it is from Jodi’s journals, then there will be people who refuse to believe it.

      • Yes, BeeCee. It would be helpful! And also highly relevant. If it was from communications between Jodi and Travis – then it proves Jodi was telling the truth about that entire incident. It proves Travis was attracted to young boys and that could only cause major conflict for him internally.

  124. Speaking of haters, while this site was down, I went to Amazon to check out ALV’s book and there are many comments there from hater’s giving her book 1 star. I clicked on the comments and reported them as spam because these people didn’t even read her book. So if anyone has some spare time you might want to do the same or other sites that review books.

    • Omg I just went to look and I’m disgusted!!!!!!!!!!! So wrong! I feel so bad. How is this allowed by the site?

        • I just reported them one at a time. Bitches trying to ruin people they dont knows life in their quasi support for a bastard they dont know either.

          • Oh me too. I reported all of them once then went back and reported them again. They did the same thing with Jose Baez’s book, and I notice they are much the same people.

              • …reported abuse to Amazon on all of them, with the note:

                Reviewer is trying to intimidate the author because she is currently a witness for the defense in a criminal trial, depriving the defendant of her rights to a fair trial.

                Amazon had better take those reviews down, in my opinion.

                • OH viri! That is perfect!!!! I hope Amazon takes heed of your words. This is a serious matter!

                • Thanks for your post viri…

                  I just spoke with an Amazon representative…and they have filed the proper paper work to send to the moderator that will be looking at those negative comments on Alyce LaViolette book..

                  Amazon telephone number in the USA/toll free is 866-216-1071..

                  Amazon’s Customer Service people are very nice to work with in resolving these issues…they read the negative comments while I was on the phone with them for about 35 minutes… and they agreed that the negative comments had nothing to do with the book…hopefully within the next 24 hours the negative comments will be removed from her book reviews…

                  Post again if you find any other problems with her book reviews…

                • viri…this is a follow up email from Amazon CSR that I just spoke with a few minutes ago….

                  Message From Customer Service

                  Hello XXXXX,

                  I’ve forwarded your issue to our Community department. You should hear back from them in the next 1-2 business days.

                  Thank you for taking the time to contact Amazon.com. We hope you will keep us in mind for your future purchases.

                  Best regards,
                  XXXX

                • I hope they have a way to lock reviews of the book until maybe a few months down the road.

    • OMG TB, they did the same thing to Gus Searcy. I think Amazon straightened it out. Well, thanks for the info. I’ll check regularly and report them as spam. Wow. Those people have lost their minds.

      • These haters\are awful. Dr Samuels web site is down he probably has been threatened. They attack this site and now La Villoletttes book!!!

        • I saw on the taliban site some one had photo shopped the doctors head on a naked man sitting in the shower surrounded by pictures of Jodi. I hope he sues someone. And wins.

          • That is disgusting. If it is a FB page I hope you reported it. (I did, I didn’t see that but I reported the page for other reasons.)

    • If I’m not mistaken, this is the same group of people who attacked Jose Baez’s book without reading it. They are motivated and organized.

      • The same type of people who sent threats to the Casey Anthony jurors after their names were made public. Sick!

      • And have a lot of time on their hands. Losers. Who hangs out at Amazon all day to trash books they haven’t read? Get a life and stop being so invested in degrading strangers who testified in another stranger’s trial!

      • You are so right I went to that SUSAN’s page an she had CASEY ANTHONY on her wall an a bunch of comments on all the books about her case to not buy them an just ugly things just like she said on Alyce’s book reviews. It is like she made a account especially to trash people. Ok that is weird ! these people are low life’s that do nothing but watch HLN an say horrible things on FB also. There are many of them as the number went up very quickly on the comments an the star review thing. So sick !

    • OMG! What a SHAME. The hatred is rampant! I am so sickened by it! I hope this is brought to the attention of Amazon! They should cite anyone who has done this since this trial started or since her name was made public relating to this trial. That is libel and defamation of character! I am appalled!

  125. Jodi’s father said to police detectives that Jodi’s behavior was strange for about a year and a half prior. By strange he meant she would call them up sweet as pie and then she would get very angry at her mother. The thing is, Darryl Brewer said the same thing. He said Jodi’s behavior really changed at the time she got involved with Travis and the Mormon church.

    • So how is this damning to Jodi? It wouldn’t be a bit surprising since she was not her usual self from the time she met Travis.

      It sounds like she was involved in some kind of cult or cultlike behavior.

      There is a reason why this stuff wasn’t included as evidence at trial.

      No, I am not going to bother to watch that stuff.

      • Her weird behavior continued for a couple of years after TA died. We know she had PTSD, and I suspect she was still suffering the effects of cultlike behavior. She simply wasn’t herself.

      • Exactly. And abuse! Alyce LaViolette said when people are psychologically abused, they say “I lost who I was.”

    • Sounds like she was being brainwashed by the mormon cult and her personality was changing accordingly. (Sorry but I am no fan of organized, hypocritical religions).

      • There are Religious Groups that are not a cult, But The Mormons Moonies are considered a Cult since they are exclusive not inclusive use Love Bombing Manipulation, Do not have a coherent structure. Their foundation is based on Joseph Smith who was a NUT JOB!!

    • TryingtoFigureThisOut
      She did have severe problems with her Parents prior to Travis her Father talked about it I think they were child abusers its so obvious, That all they care about is their reputation. Especially her Father, This is standard behavior of Parents that abuse Children.

  127. Hi all
    Glad the site is back up.
    I read on twitter that the TA support page on FB was encouraging their members to call AL they posted her office address, phone number, fax # and email and asked that they all flood her with revolting messages because they are angry that she is testifying for Jodi.

    • Others on twitter were saying this is akin to witness tampering and intimidation.

      • That’s exactly what it is. These perpetrators need to be tracked down and have charges leveled against them.

        • I would love to see that. And they are breaking the law, aren’t they?

          • I hope the defense again files for a mistrial due to witness intimidation… people start making screen shots of things like this:

            So who lives in CA that’s willing to go to LaToilets speaking engagement this weekend and throw tomatoes at her? LOL

          • Sadly that’s what I was thinking. These haters are awful. They AND hln should be held accountable!

          • I was thinking someone put something in the water on the witness stand or in her food at breakfast…I wouldn’t put it past them… They are pure EVIL!

        • Just looked and most use a ” real” name but I’m sure IP addresses would have to be requested to prove who left the comments. That takes time. Someone should take screen shots incase some of the really bad ones get deleted.

          • IP addys are logged on the servers. This needs to be address by the law, they are going too far.

        • Do they think that this hysteria makes any reasonable person more likely to believe the St Travis narrative? Are they putting angel dust in the bonbons fat housewives eat nowadays?

    • This is cyber witness tampering. Do you have a cyber crime unit that this can be reported to in the U.S.?

      All these sites that are promoting this behavior need to be reported to authorities that deal with cyber crime.

  128. I truly hope there is a writer out there who plans to write a book talking about the utterly bizarre behavior of people purportedly supporting Travis Alexander (or rather, who hate Jodi Arias). This is absolutely dangerous behavior, and I fully place the blame on the media stoking it.

    They went into this case half-cocked, not knowing any true information at all, and taking Travis’s friends’ bullshit claims at face value. The sad thing also is the D.A. and the police also fell for it.

    • They are, in my opinion, not much different in mentality and mind-set than the Richard Ramirez groupies…

      • Don’t mention that bastard’s name! He’s been on death row here in Cali since 1988.:-( He would have been history a long time ago in Texas!:-)

  129. Poor Ms. LaViolette. I can’t BELIEVE these people are harassing her like this. Well, I believe it after Gus Searcy and Richard Samuels. Good Lord.

    Jean Cesarez said she saw Alyce during the 5 minute break out in the hallway, and Alyce DID look ill. She was sweating and she looked piqued. I hope she’s okay tomorrow.

    • She should be given a bodyguard, check all contacts and all food and drinks. These people are dangerous. Several of them could feel emboldened by HLN and those sites to physically harm her. Where is the FBI when you need them?

  130. I hear they are playing Jodis Mom and Dads Tape they certainly SUCK as Parents, They were more concerned about their image then their daughter.

    • Olivero Where did you see that Dr Cheryl ran into Dr Samuels and that he said those things?

    • They are so stupid they don’t realize their behavior could derail this trial. Look at what has already happened with the juror misconduct! Once it’s out there in cyberspace it can’t be taken back.

    • Exactly, We do not agree on everything here but we have intelligent conversations to discuss things. I have no problem with people who decide one way or another about the case as long as they don’t spew hate and try to ruin someone’s career. So much for trying to teach our children not to bully when a lot if the adults are acting like bullies.

  132. Enrique stated the office door was closed, but Mimi said the first thing they noticed upon entering the house was the laptop and cellphone in the den/office. Zachary said he texted Travis multiple times over the weekend ….. wouldn’t he have noticed the cellphone in the office or at some point the roommates would’ve heard his cellphone ringing. Why interrogate Jodi’s parent’s but not Dusting Thompson?

    • Cover up – not sure what they’re covering, though. It could be anything from the cult to plain, old shoddy police/detective work.

      • There are just too many things in this case that do add up or make sense. As you said there are too many to choose from as to who might be covering up things in this case.

  133. I am sickened after spending just a couple minutes at the State vs. Jodi Arias FB site. Someone PLEASE SCREENSHOT THESE COMMENTS THAT PROVE WITNESS INTIMIDATION AND GET THEM TO THE DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  134. HLN host stating “domestic violence can be gradual,” as told by ALV. Gee… What a revelation to all. Ever heard of a guy starting to slap around his new girlfriend on the first date?

  136. The haters are a disgrace to the Constitution… and a disgrace to America. Let’s not waste any time on them.

    I wrote about this very subject back in August 2011 in Casey’s site (see link below)… and even though the trials are very different, the haters (and their antics) are just as pathetic and just as predictable now as they were back then. No doubt the same BS will apply to the next high profile reality TV show trial.

    Here’s the link:
    http://caseyanthonyisinnocent.com/casey-anthony-why-hating-the-haters-is-such-a-bad-idea

    (Watch the video at the end of the post too.)

    Onwards!

    SJ
    Team Jodi

    • casy anthony’s lawyers had 100 law students who gave their time to help her case why is this not done for joki there is 8000 email text messages and cell phone info to go thru is crazy how one DP case get so much help and this one does not. if i were to win a lotto i would give it to keep getting crusal info to the jury

      • sorry joki mis type jodi sorry jodi
        and by the way I cried today with you when I heard the cat story have 2 cats

    • You are absolutely right, as per usual, SJ. I have a concern about Ms. LaViolette and Dr. Samuels (as well as Jodi, but that goes without saying) when the trial is over-not so much for their careers per se, but rather for their safety. When Casey went into hiding after her acquittal, some looney tune where I live tried to run over a girl who RESEMBLED Casey. If/When Jodi is acquitted it is going to be Bedlam. I don’t envy anybody closely affiliated with this trial.

  137. Watching testimony video of the finger print expert, when asked if she attempted to check for finger prints other than Jodi’s on the drywall cut out with the bloody palm print she paused and said “No”. I think the “Group Think” mentality ruined this investigation. Detective Flores was bombarded by people professionally trained to alter ones thinking pattern, legal con artists, PPL associates and Mormon recruiters.

    • You’ve got it. They distorted everything about this case.

      Everything they said about Travis and Jodi was the exact OPPOSITE of what we know now actually happened.

      • Exactly I just wished people could wake up and see the facts and stop using their time to destroy others.

    • I agree with you Phillip I am so upset. The whole thing is OUT OF ORDER just like Al Pacino says on that move AND JUSTICE FOR ALL………….I feel like that today I feel like that lawyer that messed up an went crazy on there today I want to shave my head even. I am truly OUT RAGED at the haters an the prosecutor an FLORES the jurors that may be tampered with etc. It is OUT OF ORDER period.

  138. I went to Amazon and gave it a 5 star rating and a wonderful review. (Alyce’s book)

    • I am going to go right now ! this stuff is really making me upset we all need to band together like the Evil doers are they attack an do stuff so fast an I rarely see POSITIVE out there for Jodi an it is really bothering me now.

      • I went to Amazon also and reported abuse on all the reviewers who referred to the trial (all of them actually,) saying

        Reviewer is trying to intimidate a witness for the defense in an on-going criminal trial (the Author of this book), thus depriving the defendant of her rights to a fair trial.

        I didn’t rate the book, I didn’t read it yet.

        • I am doing that as well. Thanks for letting us know that they did that viri. I could tell straight off by the comment it was related to the trial because the comment referred to Alyce as a manhater.

          • I did the same – it is unethical to put a ‘review’ of a book you have not read just to slander someone’s career. I hope Amazon takes action. (And they may if enough is said.)

    • I contacted the Amazon to and pointed out these comments are not okay per their OWN guidelines. I asked them to immediately remove them, or I would not be shopping with them any longer. I spend a LOT of money there.

      • Same here. I shop there a lot and if they allow this then I will buy someplace else. They even admit they did not read the book.

      • I agree. It’s ridiculous. Jose had the very same problems with his book. The major issue with Amazon reviews is that they allow anyone to post a review of a book even though they’ve never even read it. With Ebay, you get an email after your purchase inviting you to review it, rate it & leave comments. Amazon should do the same. After all, what good are 25 pages of reviews for ANY book if none of the reviewers have read the damn thing?

        SJ
        Team Jodi

        • Agree, and since sales are money to them also it makes no sense they would do it that way.

      • Same here.
        What they are doing is illegal too. Intimidation of a witness is just as bad as corrupting a juror.

        Throw them all in the can.

      • I didn’t have time to go through all the hateful reviews, so I sent Amazon an email asking them to have someone look into all the reviews of AL’s books posted recently and see them for what they are, a terrorist attack.

      • What’d they say Renee? ??

        I went through most of the comments, o the bottom of ea h comment you can vote, was this helpful to you, yes or no? I clicked No To all of them. MAYBE more people should do the same if they wont take it down. That’s sad, they’re such idiots with nothing better to do.

    • This is one of the reviews I complained about too, said these comments are being made because she is a witness in a trial, not because they have read the book. Also said this was not the appropriate place as there are many other forums they could go to instead. And I also buy a lot of books through Amazon, so I will keep complaining there until they take these reviews down.

    • Did you notice all those reviews were written within the past few days. Sounds and looks like sabotage to me. She needs to speak with Amazon regarding this matter. Do people think we are so dumb we do not notice things like that?

        • I reported them to Amazon and also I sent an email to Willmott’s law office. I also told her where the mob originated and that she could read for herself that they talked about doing that on a message board that anyone can read. Probably though the admins have erased all the posts where people were talking about it. Still they should know and it is definitely witness tampering.

    • I am stunned! Is there no limit to what these hate mongers will do? How can this be okay?

      And on JVM that blonde lawyer woman,Wendy or whatever her name is, saying AV can kiss her career goodbye? Because she is testifying in a trial?? What in the world is wrong with everyone?

      18 pages of negative, hateful reviews so far, this makes me sick to my stomach.

      • AL didn’t appear to be concerned with the self serving empty career ambitions of lawyer Wendy, but with helping battered women.

        In any event, i suspect, flowing from AL’s superb testimony in support of Jodi, widely broadcast, and followed nationally, and internationally, AL should have opportunities for book deals, and speaking engagements, to whatever extent she chooses, more than sufficient to make herself independently wealthy. The ulterior motivation for lawyer Wendy’s rage was probably simple jealousy.

        But making money alone clearly has never been AL’s ambition, but with helping battered women, and by association, the men in their lives, and so forth.

        In february, the president signed the extension of the violence against women act [ google vawa ]

  140. Good Grief I feel sick an happy all at one time just mainly due to I feel so glad on one hand about Ms.Alyce as a witness because so much of it makes sense. But then I already knew about Travis a long time ago from just reading his my space an from watching his videos of him at PPL. I hope the jurors are listening an getting this. An not just blocking it all out like the PUBLIC seems to be.

    The up an downs of this for me is this site keeping it sane an then going out an seeing on other BLOGS or anywhere else really even U TUBE it is horrible people stating word for word what they see on HLN or CNN. I do not understand people that want to CRUCIFY a person before they understand all the FACTS of a case ? but they did it too JESUS so what should I expect a mob of people that are disturbing to me. But I hate the fact that the tv crap shows can keep this up day after day. What happened to regular Court TV without all this input. Even IN SESSION is gone? an it was getting bad anyways.

    These parents are horrible on tape even if it is spliced WTH do people think? why do they yap away in a room like that? do they not watch crime shows an see this is used against them later on? I know I would never say a damn word in a small room like that for they twist words up or they switch the tapes up etc. These parents really are not nice no wonder Jodi was living with the grandparents I was wondering why an now I see an hear why. Seriously they can’t put together like her ex Daryl did that she changed after being with TRAVIS? joining the MORMON CHURCH etc. They never even seen a photo of him ? there fore they knew nothing of what was happening an need to SHUT IT !

    The up an down is making me ill also. I truly hold discontent with the other side I know you do not but I can’t help it anymore this is out of control the other side is nothing but EVIL wanting BLOOD DEATH ETC. I am so sick. Why can’t more people see this side of it ?+

    • And what they’re doing isn’t “freedom of speech,” either. They are out for blood.

    • There is a reason those weren’t used as evidence.

      They shouldn’t even be allowed to be aired publicly.

      I will bet her parents regret what they said. I would assume they are far more understanding now.

      • Why are the tapes shown?
        I was surprised, I thought it was in court, but not.
        Just TV drama???
        I saw the Mom and Flores. HE actually lied about all of the so called “evidence” they have
        against Jodi

          • I would like to see interviews with the siblings regarding the parents!! I am sure the exprtys viewed thoses as well!!

          • I would guess that damn FLORES PIECE OF SHIT sent them is my guess I don’t care if this makes anyone mad on here I HATE THAT FAT ASS PIG ! sitting there smug an he is EVIL! not even checking into anything but JODI. He knows Mesa Is big in the Mormon religion an even said the stalking wasn’t a big deal. But yet said oh nothing is that important in the emails. What a LIAR ! not to mention the Gun Shot mix up LIAR ! can’t keep his LIES STRAIGHT……oh an he has a MEMORY PROBLEM too.

              • Really? someone on here said he was a Catholic. That is even worse if he is a Mormon nothing against any Mormon’s but come on you can’t get a fair shake at it
                if it is full of Mormon’s an a Mormon was killed an the whole family of Travis is Mormon an all the Friends an co workers are Mormon come on !

          • Probably the prosecution…they might feel the need to pull out all the stops in order to try and save themselves.! They are losing and they know it…

      • I know but what if a juror is not so honest an watches that crap ? or what if a friend or relative just says to them what they say even ? what if they over hear a conversation about that crap it pisses me off so badly this case is truly not a FAIR trail. I am going to be so upset if Jodi gets anything except a Acquittal on this case period no matter what the negatives want to say she does not deserve DEATH or more time period it was SELF DEFENSE. Travis was MEAN ! not a SAINT.

        Even if she did not do it all she says she did so we have to go with that. An I hate that part too. But it is how it is. She does not remember it after the gun shot I hope one juror feels like I do there is reasonable doubt so they can’t convict her !

        • if they come back with a conviction to kill we will know they are watching looking

        • Rhonda

          I know what you are feeling. But in the real trial, the case is going very well for Jodi.

          Best not to get involved in the hate. Other than to motivate yourself a bit. You just need to realise that what goes on at HLN has little to do with the real court case.

          It’s better to look at neutral places, like say http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/defense-attorneys-in-jodi-arias-murder-case-seek-mistrial-due-to-juror-misconduct/2013/04/01/8956ea64-9b29-11e2-9219-51eb8387e8f1_story.html

        • Each juror is warned to abide by the rules. They are asked each day if they have heard anything, spoken with anyone, or if anyone has tried to speak with them about this trial. I will hope that each of the jurors realizes the seriousness of his/her duty as a juror. I hope that each one is being truthful when he/she does not raise his/her hand when asked this question. That is all anyone can do is HOPE 🙂

          • Ya right haha……….Faith in the Justice system right? I am trying to keep the Faith too.

            I wish I could find that comment I think I heard Katie Wick say one time that the
            jurors all seemed to get along fine? chatting etc.

            I thought they could not talk to one another either until deliberation ?

            Maybe I am wrong.

    • I feel you, Rhonda. It sickens me that America is coming to this. I just try to keep reminding myself that we are the ‘silent majority.’

  141. okay, now I am confused…here is the article to back up what I said yesterday about juror 5

    ww.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/jodi-arias-trial-update-was-excused-juror-already-in-hot-water

  142. As is usually the case, the prosecution has no desire for the Truth or Justice. A conviction is the only motivator. Convictions equal promotions and promotions equal money. Has anyone noticed the flawed reasoning of the prosecution? The prosecution is accepting as fact their version of events and placing circumstances here and there in order to “prove” their illogical conclusions. The opposite should be done, i.e., looking at facts and circumstances and then drawing a conclusion. It’s sad and frightening, if one thinks about it.

    • did anyone notice in the chris hughes testomany how the defence say to him i know that you are trying to squirm your way out of answering my question then repeated again and JM all over it sidebar judge sided with JM but call a witness he is in love with jodi and it is ok dont figure

      • Ya I did an he was squirmy too! like a SNAKY SALESMAN that is truly is. He was so defiant an very forgetful at times wonder if he had a memory problem. Funny how everyone else can have trouble with remembering things or who said what at what time an too who.

      • and! They are taking screen shots and are reporting them for what they are posting about the witnesses

      • Most of the posters at City-Data think Jodi is guilty but they are at least civil there because City-Data from what I heard are tough on hateful type of speech.

    • Very interesting information on that page and talk of screen shots being sent to authorities. On the hater page a lot of real account are used so some people might want to rethink what they write on there. Might be to late for most in their since people are taking shots before the moderators have time to remove comments. Way I see it charges could include: harassment and defamation at the very least

      Isn’t this against FB rules at some point. Why is this allowed

      • Sure looks like there are a bunch of coconuts over on the The State vs Jodi Arias ~ FB page. Amazing…….can’t wait to see them eat their young when Jodi doesn’t get the DP or murder 1!!!!

  144. What they just said on HLN regarding food is BS. Two meals a day in Maricopa County Jails throughout. They just said three. At least they showed the leg chains…

    • I saw that. And they showed a substantial turkey sandwich, when even Sheriff Joe states that they get peanut butter or expired baloney. I don’t believe it.

      • Thank you.
        And I thought I’m not too proud to admit it, I know this for a fact. And also, if you don’t get back to your pod in time, which isn’t that uncommon when you’ve been to court. You miss the second so called ‘hot meal’ – which trust me (I was in Estrella too) isn’t hot even if you do get it.

        • Even if she gets 2600 calories a day (mostly carbohydrates), they still keep her sleep deprived by waking her up at 3 A.M.!

          • Going to court was a notorious grind. Was actually a ‘rule’ not to make too much noise etc. on days when people in the pod/ warehouse/wherever so those that had to go got some sleep. Even so you came back drained. I can’t imagine doing it days on end. Let alone having a murder rap hanging over your head…

    • I have banned HLN an CNN an any channel that is totally showing BULL I am tired of it an them sending out waves of more OUT RAGE for the PUBLIC is making every day worse for the STUPID ones that have no brain like a SHEEP would walk off the cliff if HLN said too I truly do believe they would follow just like SHEEP. I have tried to be a Shepard an explain things there is no listening I give up on the damn SHEEP let them fall off the cliff.

      If some PEOPLE had a clue they could investigate some things HLN says on the internet an find out for themselves they LIE ! I heard VINNIE himself say one day YA JODI JOINED THE MORMON CHURCH with in 2 weeks ? LIAR ! I heard NG accuse some parents one time that they most likely killed their baby girl because they did not pass the LIE DETECTOR TEST !! then a few weeks later it was found out the weirdo down the STREET KILLED THEIR BABY GIRL ! these TV shows are for the WEAK THE LAZY that believe the sky is falling !

      They would Crucify JESUS himself if he gets here some day they truly disgust me now all of them.

  145. I’ve been following the case and normally being a police officer I can tend to sway towards the State. Honestly this case has so much reasonable doubt I cannot see how she will get the DP or murder. As for HLN, prior to this I did not really watch them but I’m appalled at how one sided it is. The truth is the evidence that is available could be swayed in any direction due to it not being strong in one way or the other. Furthermore it’s my understanding that the tire slashing is unproven therefore an assumption, yes? The only ones saying stalker are these friends after the fact yet no e of them had a problem taking pictures with her and going on vacations with her acting like it was all good. TA’s family yes I get why their upset but they had not seen him in 4 years a lot can happen to someone in 4 years I can’t believe they they knew him as much as they thought they did. These Psych Doctors on HLN guessing diagnosis SERIOUSLY you cannot diagnose based off of what everyone else is reporting about Jodi, doesn’t seems legit at all! This type of reporting sickens me. I do believe the crime was horrible and perhaps overkill BUT I still don’t know the whole story and I have many doubts I could not at this time in good conscious give a guilty plea. Whatever the outcome I hope this is a good fair jury. I can’t understand why they are allowed to go home if this is such a high profile case splashed all over the TV and Internet. I have my doubts as too if I could trust they hear nothing hmmmm.

  146. All in all though, it was a good day. Alyce LaViolette and Jennifer Wilmott were GREAT. The tapes of Jodi’s parents really aren’t bad. Of course the spin HLN is giving them is bad, but Jodi’s father says she started to act strangely a year and a half prior which was the time she met Travis and joined the Mormons. Darryl Brewer says the EXACT same thing. All of that supports exactly what Alyce LaViolette is saying. Jodi lost herself. She said that’s exactly what happens in an abusive relationship. Jodi wasn’t bipolar. She was in a bad relationship. In the tapes, her mother said Jodi was very moody and that was the reason they encouraged her to move back to Yreka. It was all that relationship with Travis wearing on her. Really, I think all in all, it was a good day.

    • I do too ! I feel really good about today an yesterday. Just hope Ms.Alyce feels better. I am really upset about how the public is attacking her now though it is so disgusting. I just spent a hour on that Amazon going over all the comments an I reported each one as harassment an asked them to be removed.

          • I hit the ‘report’ button on the individual reviews AND found an “Overall” review button at the bottom. This is where I left my comment that it was against Amazon’s own TOS and it makes them look less credible. If someone knows another way, please share.

            I also reported the FB page (St v JA) as hate speech against ALV.

            • I’ll go back and check the ‘overall’ button, didn’t see it. Went through 18 pages of reporting abuse.

              Intimidating a witness is illegal.
              They should all be thrown in the can.

    • Yep. I don’t see how they really add to anything we don’t already know.

      And the bottom line is they support Jodi now.

  147. I do not see how any of the talking head experts can diagnose this COMPLEX person without examining her. How many hours did the syaye shrink spend with her?

    • And WHY are they not diagnosing her with battered woman’s syndrome since her father said it went on for “the last year and a half” BEFORE the arrest as in, the time she was seeing Travis!

  148. In the tapes Jodi’s mom is saying Jodi was suicidal in June 2008. This exactly fits her testimony.

  149. I missed u guys! Was there an attack on the site? I couldn’t get on for long time 2day.

  150. Does anyone else think joan velez michell looks (and acts) like a ugly bull dog with plastic surgery?

  151. Gone all day came home and thought what the hell happened. So we are back Thank God. I have not watched the trial today. Was so worried. Please all push the movement for women and Jodi. I love my husband but I have found life for women it is still not fair. Young women take up your rights fight the fight. Sometimes I feal that they know not were we came from. And Jodi I know you fought. God love you/

  152. It truly sickens me what all these bullies are trying to do to the defense witnesses. I’m sure it’s hard on them and they don’t deserve it one bit. I wish something could be done about it.

  153. Ok heres the lastest tidbit on the web,Radar on line haas just recieved info that Jodi attacted her cell mate in 2009 and claimed it was self defence,of course this just happens to be a coincidence RIGHT!!!.I shut the trial off today because I was sick and tired of everytime ALV had a very good point,HLN paused it and went on to show the videos of her parents.I see this in the same context as someone posting hatered to defame someone,I am am sick and tired at seeing all this,the media is trying to work the public opinion against Jodi,The videos,the comment about another reason the people of Arizona should hate her for the cost of her defence,The Idiots on HLN after dark,Nancy and Drew should be charged with spreading hatetred,a very serious issue.I am saddened that people have stooped to the lowest form of humanity in this trial,Jodi is not getting a fair trial,she is deprived of food and rest in jail,yet I give her koodos.Jodi is hanging in there,but my god howl ong can she keep it up,you can see the disbelief and dispair in her expressions,she looks gaunt.Jodi is a beautiful person and I am looking forward to the day she walks free.There is a lot of unanswered questions in this trial and I hope some of the jurrors can see that and do the right thing,God bless Jodi.

    • Regarding public cost of the trial… just check out Google and/or Phoenix New Times for how much the tax payers have paid out to defend (or pay off) litigation against the great sheriff Joe. Millions and millions.

      • Thanks for that tidbit, Grunt. Funny how info like that gets pushed out of sight.

  154. Great – now Nancy Graceless has supposedly gotten a hold of 600 pages from Jodi’s diary.

    WHO IS GIVING THEM THIS STUFF???

    It has to stop. Who can we complain to about the obvious release of info to the press??

    • Welcome to the justice system. I had a letter I wrote (in what I thought was total confidence) as part of a recovery program read in open court before. When you are a defendant, nothing is sacred or private.

    • So this idiot got hold of evidence in the trial, and she thinks she knows more than the people who are involved in it. Like hell she does.

      There has got to be some kind of restraining order placed on HLN with this trial ongoing. There is NO “freedom of the press” when all they have done is violate the Constitution over and over again.

    • Somebody from inside is giving this material to her. They need to be found out.

    • Good Morning America has released the 600 pages of Jodi’s diary to Nancy Grace according to the caption on HLN…

          • I am not stupid. Don’t lecture me about FOIA. That is not why the law exists. You already have cameras in the courtroom for people to see the proceedings.

            I also have news for you: NOT all documents from public entities are covered under FOIA. There is a LOT that isn’t. I would like to see the law changed so it isn’t abused in this fashion.

            The law does not exist to undercut people’s right to a fair trial. HLN and the others are pushing the envelope here.

          • Evidence in an ongoing trial are not typically covered by FOIA. That doesn’t make any sense. Tonysam is right. this has nothing to do with the purpose of FOIA. These docs aren’t generated by any governmental entity, and they are evidence in a trial. IF GMA obtained them through a FOIA request (doubtful), they were probably wrongfully released.

        • All of these recent things that have come out on TV, the tapes of Jodi’s parents, journal entries, were all obtained thru the Freedom of Information Act. HLN got the videos, other TV channels did as well, and really, anyone can by filing the proper paperwork. It isn’t anyone involved in the trial, its the media…all done to try to gain viewers and be the most watched channel.

          • Doesn’t matter. This is WRONG. Your supposed “right to know” does NOT outweigh somebody’s right to a fair trial.

            That is NOT the reason this law exists.

            • I agree…..I am all for free speech…but it is a fine line in this type of situation. But, we have to just hold onto the fact that the jurors have sworn not to disobey the admonitions given to them. None of this crap that has been on trash TV, online, etc…..should be seen or heard by them. I am glad the law exists for other reasons, but it sure can be a double edged sword. I feel comfortable though, that the jury is taking it’s duty seriously. This is all for TV ratings and hype.

              • I agree with you, Anna, and normally the FOIA is a good thing. It’s just that the people who wrote it never anticipated the lynch mob mentality of television.

                I think the documents and other evidence could and should be available AFTER a trial, especially for people who are writing books about a case, but not DURING it.

                The Bill of Rights is SO important in this country, and it bothers me to no end they are being trashed.

              • I highly doubt that this crap was obtained through FOIA requests. If so, it was likely wrongfully disclosed. Unless Arizona has some whackadoodle FOIA, this type of material would not be covered.

          • In the last week, someone on here said they tried to get a copy of the ME report, but couldn’t manage to so far. I hate that the media can get so much stuff, but an individual cannot get one thing that they just want to have a look at.

            • I know Seek……its all about the connections sometimes. I am sure that in time, (who knows how long) that an individual would get a copy of whatever they ask for that is legal to obtain, but a TV station, or media outlet, with their attorneys and paralegals will get access in a split second. They are used to doing it and know exactly who to contact and how to apply, etc

              • Even there, so much of the stuff doesn’t make sense unless you have a background in whatever the subject is.

                What I am upset about is the misuse of the evidence in a cynical attempt to inflame the public for ratings.

  155. I couldn’t get through all day, but had to share this funny story with you guys (well, I think it’s funny anyway). There’s a school of psychology near where I work. I went out to lunch, grabbed some soup and sat down to eat it. There were 5 men sitting at the table next to me from the psychology school, and one of them was talking really loudly. I couldn’t get the trial to play properly on my iPhone, and when it did, I could still hear this guy’s voice anyway. He was describing the various types of assholes a psychologist might encounter in practice (and yes, he used the word “asshole”).

    In his mind, there are 4 types. The first is someone who doesn’t mean to be an asshole and isn’t aware that they can sometimes be an asshole. This type, he said, is someone who can be treated merely by pointing out that they are an asshole at times. One of the younger guys asked if this was the worst type of asshole. He said no, usually not. The second type is someone who knows they are an asshole at times and doesn’t want to be an asshole anymore. This type is often the byproduct of Type 1 after some therapy. This, is the best type of asshole, he told the younger guy. Then, there’s the third type of asshole. This is the person who knows they are an asshole, but they don’t care anymore. This type might have tried to stop being an asshole, but discovered it was too much work, or they might just naturally be an asshole and can’t stop being one. Again, the younger guy piped up and asked if this was the worst type of asshole. Oh no, said the older guy. There is a type that is even worse.

    I was finding his commentary rather amusing, but my ears perked as he described his final type of asshole. He asked if any of them were familiar with the case playing out on the media at the moment of a young woman in Arizona accused of killing her boyfriend. Of course, I knew exactly which case he meant. Interestingly enough, only one of the group acknowledged being familiar with it. Another said he thought he might have read something about it, but the media turned him off. “Well,” said the older man, “You might want to tune in and watch some of the trial because there, in front of your eyes, you will see THE worst type of asshole imaginable.” I was getting a little perturbed wondering if he was going to say Jodi, and assuming he was watching HLN’s coverage.

    I needn’t have worried. To him, the World’s Worst Asshole is … wait for it … the prosecutor! This, he said, is a man who is a natural asshole. He likes being an asshole, he tries to be an asshole, he goes out of his way to be an asshole and he doesn’t care who he stomps on along the way as long as he continues to be an asshole, and he thinks nothing of ripping someone else’s asshole in his process. “What would you diagnose him with?” asked one of the younger guys. “Oh,” said the older guy, “I can’t officially diagnose him because I haven’t evaluated him, and none of you should do that. But this is the type of asshole you can detect from a mile off. He shows extreme narcissistic characteristics.” He went on to describe JM as someone basically devoid of emotion or compassion who believes everyone is inferior. Yet, he said, he displays childlike emotional outbursts of rage which probably reveals a fragile self-esteem. He also described how he completely disrespected, belittled and attempted to shame Dr. Samuels, a very well respected forensic psychologist. He talked about not agreeing entirely with all of Dr. Samuels’ conclusions regarding PTSD, but perceived him as being well-researched. He was absolutely horrified by JM’s accusations that Dr. Samuels was not impartial because he bought her a book, and even bore secret sexual attractions towards Jodi.

    I wish I’d taped the conversation. It was hilarious! I should have passed over a piece of paper with the name of this site. Perhaps this guy would have come to visit us.

  156. Although the trial was shortened because of Ms. LaViolette falling ill, I thought some really good progress was made today. I do wonder how she signalled to Ms. Wilmott that she was feeling bad…I didn’t catch any cues from her, did y’all?

    • I saw her trying to capture the atty’s attn during sidebar. It wasn’t for about 20 minutes or so that they called the 5 minute recess. Then after that ALV said she couldn’t continue.

  158. Alyce LaViolette is a prime candidate for witness protection. She is being intimidated, defamed and has become a victim of the thing that she fights SO hard to remedy…VIOLENCE. Someone needs to step in to ensure her safety. I am worried about her. The authorities need to be notified!

    • I agree, her personal information, address and such are splashed all over facebook pro TA sites. This morning I saw one post asking if anyone has dug up any dirt on her yet! Sick!!

      • Has anybody reported the hate sites to Facebook? They need to be taken down.

        I think Taylor Searle’s FB page has stopped posting anything about the trial.

        • I reported one (I cannot stomach finding others) and I reported it as threats / violence. Please, everyone, REPORT these assholes; that is NOT what facebook is supposed to be about!

      • very sick. that’s what those people are. none of us are bullying the prosecutor (even thought we don’t like him), none of us will be going out to bully the state’s psych expert…

        Again, I wish they would all fall off the face of the earth…but you won’t see me actually doing anything to cause it..

      • Someone needs to notify the authorities where she is speaking this weekend that people on Facebook have been sending out information and encouraging people to go there and harass/throw things at, ect..

        I fear for her safety, very much.

        Some one also needs to contact the defense and make sure they are aware there is a massive wave of witness tampering and intimidation going on social media and the Internet.

        There is a serious problem here, folks.

        • Does anybody here know how to do this? I mean, who is to be contacted and are there rules as to whom is supposed or required to report these things?

          • I report anything I can… everywhere is different.

            as far as emailing the defense, I did that when the TA arrest came out. I emailed Ms Wilmott’s office.

            I would do so tonight, but I have had a couple too many Whiskey-cranberries. LOL sorry, it’s been a long, stresssful day.

            :/

    • That is very alarming! How can these people have that much hate in their hearts? Surely at least some of them are intelligent enough to know that Jodi is entitled to have witnesses such as Ms. LaViolette to testify on her behalf?

      • It’s scary that the haters think someone’s guilt or innocence should be decided without defense. the think there is so much evidence, but there really isn’t.

        • BeeCee, I’ve seen some people even saying she shouldn’t get a trial at all, just ship her off to death row and forget about appeals. See in this country we are getting to the point where the constitution is being treated as nothing but a piece of paper that is outdated. How sad.

          • Mark my words, something is going to be done about this, and we are seeing the Bill of Rights being abused and trashed for ratings.

            The FOIA is being abused solely to inflame the public, and it needs to be changed so that nobody is allowed to get evidence that is being used in an ongoing trial. This has nothing to do with one’s supposed “right to know” but everything to do with the accused right’s to a fair trial.

    • I think the FBI or US Attorney General should be contacted. Some of these threats are terrorist threats. Sheriff and the rest cannot be trusted.
      They are trying to intimidate a witness in every way.
      And there is more violent hatred against her than even against Dr. Samuels. In fact probably because she is a woman.

      • Local police keeps selling video clips to HLN to be mouthed over by anchors while defense witnesses are on the stand.

  159. Omg I thought I lost you guys!!! : (( thank god I found my way back!!!! Lol
    So, I went back to yesterday’s afternoon testimony with LaViolette since I missed it. Wow I was shocked at all the girls TA was playing with!!!! I yea I thought maybe a few but ggeeezzzzzz they counted 10. She said, there are MANY, the ones i can remember are:
    Kearella
    Ragen
    Nicole
    Denice
    Sheytonya
    Maria
    Deana
    Jodi
    Lisa
    Matilda
    Krista
    and there could be MORE!
    *(my names might be misspelled). BUT DAMNNNNNN TRAVIS, the little vigin Mormon, lying to all these girls!!! What does that say about him?! And for sure his family didnt want to blv it or didn’t see anything wrong with it. The smirks and the eyerolling sais it all!

    • Oh I just thought about it. They forgot about, ” Brandi” so 11 named so far. How sad!!!! These are the guys I will keep my daughter’s away from!!!

    • yeah, so why won’t one of them come forward and admit to the jury how he really was?

      Well, we know Lisa already backpedaled. I think deanna had something to do with his death (she WAS the longest suffering girlfriend and was before all the others), so no way would she be a witness.

      That leaves PLENTY more to come forward with the truth.

      • What’s wrong with it, is that he lied to all of them!!! Young, yes he was. Handsome, I dont thk so (thats an opinion anyway). Horny, he wasn’t support to be, he was a Mormon member.

      • What is also wrong with that is he was mormon and mormons are taught not to even think about sex in any way shape or form. They are taught to push those thoughts away.

    • funny you say that, I was thinking the same thing. I was pleasantly surprised to see jinkasaurus instead of Nasty G, and I told HLN so.
      funny thing, again tonight, Most of her guests are leaning towards the defense. I almost fell out of my chair!! I stand by my comment last night, I feel the tide is turning, at least to the the point of no death penalty, and possibly no conviction

  161. How would you feel about your parents calling the police about growing pot versus calling a counsrlor?

      • Some people are too quick to involve law enforcement or DSS/CPS in situations regarding their own children that they should be able to take care of without involving these authorities. I actually feel sorry for them in a way because they must feel pretty ineffectual in their parenting abilities.

        • SD,
          This happened to me when I was a teen, and it is embarrassing to even admit, and it was years ago…my parents were VERY strict for a time when we were growing up. My step-mom actually called the cops on me.(after she pulled my hair and smacked the crap out of me) Over what? She caught me having sex. Yepp. SEX. I am actually blushing remembering it, but I am actually still pissed off. Can you imagine???? The police came and seemed completely stunned as to why she called, but they lectured me, and my boyfriend, then drove him home. I was grounded. I think I told 1 friend back then, it was just too outrageous to even talk about. Sometimes I wonder why I even speak to her at all.

    • I loved it when Ms. LaViollete quipped that she needs a thesaurus! She adds some levity without being disrespectful about the seriousness of this case.

    • My brother grew one plant one time big deal he wanted to see if he could grow it he was a teenager an lived with me. Now a whole field I would have been worried about that. Or cutting cocaine or heroin yes I would have called in for some help but a PLANT give me a break.

      • Rhonda,
        We ALL smoked pot in our house back then…lol. My sister, me and my 2 brothers. This was the mid 70’s, my parents were at their new business from early morning til very late every night. All of our friends came over and our house was the designated party house. We had shag carpet and we would go around and cut the burns out before they got home, vacuum, spray air freshener, etc. The only way they found out, was my dad took apart the AC unit outside and the entire filter was covered in black resin. We all just stood there shocked, playing dumb. ohh..memories.:)

    • Exactly Deb! I was angered when I saw the footage of her “parents” talking to the cops! As a parent, and I am a parent, wouldn’t your first reflex be to defend and protect your child! Right or wrong, a Normal person would move to protect their offspring. These 2 piece of shit parents throw her right under the bus! WTF! That idiot mother does sit in the court room everyday, but the dead look on her face…no feeling….sometimes I feel as if she is maybe there to see her daughter get punished. I feel even more sad for Jodi now….she has been alone for so very long. And then that Jim Baker in the making comes along and she was a prime target….this is often the type that religious sects prey upon as well.

      • Yeah, I’ve been thinking about Jim & Tammy Faye thruout this trial, along with every other snake oil salesman, religious ‘leader’ who is just in it for the money, faith healer, & Ponzi schemer.

      • Its not so much the information but the spinning of the story and stating things that are un true.
        The 1st Amendment does not exist to extinguish the 6th Amendment. When the Media is in cahoots with the Prosecution then we have a serious problem Dr.Drew is the worst offender. I don’t watch them at all but his commentary is dead wrong very prejudicial and now his ltest is even Jodi’s Parents had a problem with her.

      • KAT K
        i Agree and even some of Jodis critics in the AM stated the same thing it was outrageous.
        They Suck as Parents. They are such obvious abusers sorry thats the truth!

  162. I would love to say a few things and have questions answered without anyone dogging me or saying im a bad person….I started watching this trial in the begining, but I was made to believe that jodi was guily, and its hard to see her side when you start watching and you have been made to think that she is guilty without seeing or hearing her part…All i was told was ” this crazy girl slaughtered her ex boyfriend and keeps lying and changing her stories”. So of course thats what i thought getting into it…I do feel bad for immedietly judging but when you hear something like that its hard to believe at first…anyway, I am a great person with good morals and I like to give everyone a chance. I have been in a mentally abusive relationship but never physical and I think its heartbreaking that people have to experience that and sometimes cant escape…I dont want to be looked down on for this post because i respect all of you expressing your true feelings. However, there is still a lot of things I question that Jodi has done and I want to think she is innocent so bad but I just dont know what to think…Please Please Please dont think Im one of the “haters” because I am not…I am so confused on why she has lied so much and done some of the things she has…I am currently at work so if I dont respond back quickly then I am busy but I eventually will….Im not even sure if anyone will respong to me,…

    =/ Im just torn on what to believe..

  163. I checked the date of the oldest negative review on Amazon and it coincides with the start of Alyce’s testimony. Disgusting. There is a 2011 review (5 stars) saying the book was very informative and helpful. That is the only objective review on Amazon.

  164. Admins – has anyone attempted to contact Wilmott’s office regarding witness intimidation? Would it even matter (as in is there even a way to contact her)?

  165. Is anyone besides me having nagging thoughts that Jodi may have been molested by a close family member? I don’t want to say too much because that is a very serious thing to imply.

    • Yes I have wondered about that myself since they stated the Father said something about her breasts being to small ? what kind of Father says something like that to a daughter? or the statement about being in 2nd grade an the Father yells out at a second grade boy that liked Jodi that he knows he wants his daughter? that is really over the line there. 2nd graders do not think about that stuff that I know of.

      • My dad said some inappropriate things also…but he never molested me. That doesn’t mean I don’t think jodi may or may not have been molested.

        Some people talk shit and do nothing, some people talk shit and do shit, some people talk about nothing and do shit….make sense? in other words it could mean something, or not.

    • I don’t know, but the father was saying terrible things to his young daughter, and was abusive to her mother. That in itself is child abuse.

      • Breasts too small…butt bigger than her friends….and now I’m watching the father basically throwing his daughter under the bus! I believe he is entering that interrogation room knowing what he has done and thinking it might come out at some point and basically trying to nip it in the bud by talking about how strange his daughter is, how verbally abusive she was to her mother, etc., etc. AND that he’s not really very suprised that she might have committed murder. Very, very sad indeed, if what I’m thinking he’s doing is really true.

          • It’s obvious to me from the police videos that Jodi’s parents didn’t know how to help their daughter, and so they didn’t. We have heard the stories of them being abusive to Jodi. Why in the world they would talk to police without getting legal advice first doesn’t make sense to me. Why would you call the police on your child for growing pot?If they were really that upset about the pot then they need to place some responsibility on themselves. It seems like normal teenage behavior to me. It’s not surprising she left home when she did. There were no adults to support her and who she is. I find it interesting that Jodi turned out to be such a compassionate being. Drew wants to turn her into some kind of monster for every single thing she ever did in her life. I’m not trying to paint Jodi as pristine but, imo TA was trying to suck everything he could out of Jodi and then move on to his next victim. But none of the experts in the media want to address what is coming out in AL testimony regarding the emails and Jodi’s diary entries. It’s as if it doesn’t even exist. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck. That tells me that TA was an abuser. A fact that can’t be overlooked. Now the lynch mob is furious and they are striking at anyone that sheds light on the truth. The truth that will set Jodi free.

            Something really needs to be done about HLN and CNN family. Are there any documentary film makers here on the board? I know there are some great writers here. I would give my time freely to a group, and a cause, that exposes these destruction monsters for what they are, and what they are doing to our culture. I’m very serious. The last time I got this mad I spearheaded a campaign that kept dolphins out of Denver at Colorado’s Oceans Journey. We actually won against big money (not as big as CNN) but still we won against the city and founders like Coors Brewery. So I know it’s possible to win this kind of war.

            • I should use the word “fight” instead of war! Like I said I am mad. When I woke up this morning I didn’t pray and meditate as usual.

  166. this person is doing this: (I have left contact info because she needs to be reported to the police for stalking.)

    Garry Scarff
    I would encourage anyone here that is offended as I am with Alyce Laviolette’s trashing of Travis Alexander & lying for Jodi to contact the organizations that have scheduled Alyce to speak & encourage them to cancel her appearances.

    I would ask that you do so politely & considerately, and point out that numerous DV victims across the country have seen her testify on the stand & are angry that she’s throwing real DV victims under the bus, in order to profit as Jodi’s “expert.”

    At the end of April, Alyce is giving 2 workshops at a Collaborative California conference. I have emailed the Conference coordinator, Paula Jackson, asking her to reconsider having Alyce speak because of her current role as Jodi’s DV “expert”.

    paula@gneo.net

    • OMG!! This is getting way, way out of hand….the defense team and the authorities need to be made aware of this.

      I am beyond stunned now, I can’t even find words to describe how this scares me.

      • Gail Conlon
        It is out of Hand follow the Money why such extreme hate. They need to get a court order protection and harassment charges. This has to be handled legally. And an investigation into the TRUE reason for this HITLER/STALIN Tactics. I think Flores did a very bad job in the investigation. He seems like an idiot

        • The other really scary far-reaching ramification is that it will intimidate expert witnesses from testifying in other trials in the future. I’m reading Jose Baez’s book about the Casey Anthony trial (which I didn’t follow at the time). He talks about having doors slammed in his face by experts he tried to get to testify who did not want to get involved because of fears of being dragged through the mud with the media, and about experts who were on board walking away from the case because of the intimidation they were experiencing.

          Now, we’ve seen what happened to Dr. Samuels and Ms. LaViolette. This is extremely serious. No one will ever again be able to get a fair trial in a high profile case if the mob descends upon them like this.

          These people are trying to interfere with and prevent Ms. LaViolette from making an income in her profession. They are interfering with sales of her book. She had a co-author who is not involved in this trial, and a publisher who is not involved in this trial. That publisher employs other innocent people. But they are not considering the damage that is being done to those people’s lives.

          Our basic fundamental right under the constitution is to a fair trial. This has to stop.

        • unbelievable:

          You know how we learned that she kept stealing away pens in the jail? Well…what if she was re-writing her journals? Wish the prosecution could date the ink to see if these were really written in ’08.
          Like · Reply · 53 · 3 hours ago

          53 people liked this stupid assed post??!! She would not have access to her personal journal in jail. What a bunch of froot loops! Date the ink? WTF is that???

          • Her journals were taken into evidence probably when she was arrested. There is no way on earth she rewrote her journals. Umm… if she did, she would have filled it with stuff about the abuse…. duh?

          • That, my friend, is the result of an equation I am working on that may win me simultaneous nobel prizes in both economics and anthropology:

            (Law& Order x NCIS x CSI) + Nancy Grace x (HLN + crack) / Steven Brill + U.S. Constitution x ACLU – The Innocence Project = Dennis Rodman

            Whadaya think?

    • This is pure insanity. That is why I am against the media like HLN getting hold of any evidence that is admitted into a current trial. This is extremely wrong and is not what the FOIA was supposed to be about.

      The people’s “right to know” doesn’t outweigh somebody’s right to a fair trial.

      • I agree 100 percent tonysam,but you have to wonder if someone in the law enforcement circle is feeding the the info out to the media,Remember Sky Hughes testimony on the stand,she stated that she had watched the trial from day one and consistantly calls up JM or his paralegal,which she refers to him by his first name Philip HMMMMMMMM!!!!! to report any irregular things about the trial,I am sure that with the amount of haters out there,the prosecution is getting flooded with damning things that are thought to be real or not by the haters.The media has pretty well tided everybody against Jodi and her defence team,so sad to see that most people cant use their brain to deduce the truth from the lies,the media has come close to being like the nazis and using their propaganda to turn the tide.I feel for Jodi and believe that she acted in self defence,the media has pretty well destroyed what is left of her life when she is released,she will have to hide or get a new identity just to function in society.Her best bet would be to get out of the country,but that would be hard as she will have a criminal record hanging over her head.All high profile M1 cases should have a media ban and the jury sequestered,it is the only way to assure a fair trial.I say Jodi is not getting a fair trial even tho the judge asks everyday if any of the jurrors have had any influence,LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO SAY YES,misjustice at its best in America.

    • The ONLY “trashing” of Travis comes from Travis himself. Nobody is making up the content of the emails, text messages, and phone calls.

      Now I know it upsets people, but Travis wasn’t what he claimed he was to his different social circles.

      • Travis was a piece of crap. He didn’t deserve to get killed, no one does, but he also doesn’t deserve to be made holy in death. It sickens me.

    • Wow I am so glad this person is here to speak for real DV victims. This makes me sick that they keep saying Jodi is not a DV victim and she hurts the “real” ones. Oh that is so disgusting that they are saying she is just doing it to make money and is lying about TA. A lot of the evidence in this case is based on his own words. They say she is throwing real DV victims under the bus. I felt she was helping explain things very well and even might even be helping more women out there. I know she brought a lot of things I could relate to. This behavior today is just making me sick and it concerns me for the future of our children. How can we stop the epidemic of bullying if adults are acting like this.

    • I think the puny state posters are clueless in thinking they can ruin AL’s career. They think they are doing something special by emailing the places that Alyce will be speaking, but I guarantee those places with just think the haters are crazy lunatics.

      Then, if they show up, well, off to the pokey they might go. they better hope it isn’t Arizona!

      dumb asses

    • I dont get it, THE HATERS are calling and canceling where she’s going to attend in the near future?

    • Do you think she is waiting on the verdict? Like, if she did think Jodi was guilty, and she got kicked off for trying to bias the jury against Jodi, and Jodi ends up being acquitted, she will be blamed by the haters and HLN for it, and so she wants to see what the verdict is?

      • I don’t know.

        I personally feel that she took so many notes because she was looking for a way to trip Jodi up with questions.

        Just because she was “attentive” does not mean she was intelligent or good.

        If there is a lack of seemingly sarcastic questions we will know she was the one asking them.

        • that’s my thought too BeeCee…frankly I wanted her to talk. I was posting asking for someone to get her to talk, hoping she’d spill the beans on what those jurors had been up to. I don’t believe for a second that none of them aren’t watching the media, and in my opinion, I’d prefer a mistrial, and move this case to another jurisdiction, away from maricopa couty all together.

    • It looks like she had to put thst out that to be left alone. First her security and her family’s security. Good for her! Maybe when this is all over, they’ll have forgotten about juror #5 and shes probably ok with that.

  168. HATE CRIME – If any lead besides Jodi Arias were followed this investigation would have fallen under the jurisdiction of the FBI as a hate crime, because of the Mormon or PPL connection. Most likely to late to call the Phoenix FBI office.

    • sure is a racket. pushing legal vaporwares on your family, friends, acquaintances and church members to recoup your losses at being a sucker yourself.

  170. Well I have had enough…I’m too stressed out! Usually I could read this page all night long but what is going on elsewhere is being revealed here. I have been trying to avoid the horror of the haters and even reading what they are up to is too much for me. I hope ALV is safe and sound. I will be back here tomorrow as usual.
    Goodnight all.
    Peace

  172. So Jodi’s parents, in the tapes, claim Jodi was strange and not abused.
    Umm… honestly, does Dr. Drew and the rest of HLN really believe that any parent would admit to child abuse? TO A POLICE DETECTIVE???

    Dr. Drew had someone on his show claiming Jodi offered the detective information without being asked, which was, “I don’t know, I don’t remember, I think Travis had the knife” in response to the question, “Did you have the knife Jodi?” That is complete nonsense. Her response, answered the detective’s question. It did not offer information that was not asked. (They said her response indicated she was hiding something).

    If anything, the parents both talked about how the abuse wasn’t true when they were not even asked if they abused her. Preemptive strike! That to me, qualifies as providing information without asking for it. Covering tracks.

    • And again, what is the point of police tapes from almost five years ago? To show Jodi is a liar?

      We know she lied in the interrogations, but nothing she has said under oath has been shown to be false.

      What is the point other than to inflame the public?

      • Correct tonysam,
        There is NO other reason to release those tapes. The media wants to inflame the public, and mostly, whatever outlet HAS them, gets to announce it…therefore, more viewers, more $$$

    • .There response is typical I have seen it over and over again the Father is a creep,

    • I don’t like what her parents did. Didn’t Jodi say on the stand that her father is a real gossip? And didn’t Ms. LaViolette say that Jodi’s grandmother says that Jodi gets very angry at her mother because of her father? Jodi’s father, in the interrogation room, sounded to me like he was sitting in a bar gossiping about some acquaintance, not his daughter. And the way he said that Jodi would call and get very angry at “his wife”, I thought that was important that he didn’t say at “her mother”. As though his kids aren’t really part of things. I don’t know. It just seemed odd.

    • maybe not purposely abusive, but certainly ignorant.

      She had never had an eye exam until jail for criminy sake.

      I can’t imagine that the school or someone didn’t say anything to the parents.

      • Maybe they did how do YOU know. It is VERY evident in several photos and when she was on the stand. When you are tired it is worse. It IS abusive or neglectful not to take care of medical problems in your children.

        • Oh gosh, I went back to look at pictures. It isn’t evident in all the pictures, so I didn’t notice. I never really thought about it. I just always assumed it was the way she was posing.

        • Deb,
          Who are you talking to? I’m confused. you brought up that the parents were neglectful in not treating her eye, then you say, “Maybe they did, how do YOU know”. ?????

          • Anna directed to BEE CEE who stated that the school should have told them!! My point is a good parent notices things like that in your child. it is embarrasing especially in a pretty girl to have a cross eye which can easily be corrected with glasses. Also can affect reading.. It is neglectful IMO

            • I think the wandering eye has to be taken care of in early childhood. As far as Jodi’s nearsightedness goes, it sounds like it developed so slowly that she didn’t even notice it until she tried on someone else’s glasses. That’s VERY common for nearsightedness to come on gradually in the twenties. It’s probably pretty mild and it will get worse through her thirties and forties.

              • By the way, it REALLY bothered me when HLN accused Jodi of faking her need for glasses. Their proof was that she takes her glasses off when she reads. And they were REALLY angry about it. Caught in ANOTHER LIE!! They thought it was a breaking story!!! But it was funny really, because less than five minutes later they said, oh, we’re hearing that she may be nearsighted, so yes, she WOULD take her glasses off to read. What a bunch of jerks.

                • THAT really annoyed me too. It was so obvious why she needed to take them off to read. These people are either totally blinded by their prejudice or complete idiots or both.

  174. Know what is ironic?

    I bet if the attorney roles were reversed – as in Willmott and Nurmi were the prosecutor and Martinez was for the defense, all the haters would be calling Martinez a bully and be extremely happy, saying that he is alienating the jury and that Jodi deserves him because she will get the DP. They would also probably be singing their praises about how calm and collect Willmott and Nurmi are.

    Yet, because Nurmi and Willmott are for the defense, they get called names.

    • It’s Amazing the amount of faith and patience they both have in our justice system. Seriously they help me sleep better at night lately.

    • Negative. She said abuse is like boiling a frog slowly versus dropping it in boiling water…. in one example it would jump out immediately and the other it would stay and gradually accept abuse until death.

        • She didn’t say the metaphor was true. She said, you know they say abuse is like….. just like sort of to make it more relatable

        • The same metaphor could be applied to the people, for instance, who keep submerging themselves little by little into the HLN propaganda, and the opinions, hatred and unfounded statements of the ‘Death for Jodi’ sites: after a while they cannot extricate their brainwashed mind out of it all, even faced with evidence contrary to their beliefs. They eventually drown in it. Some of them, rather than looking at the content which deals with evidence and could threaten their view of the world, just criticize the phrasing and presentation.
          Other frogs who are suddenly dipped in the closed-mind world realize immediately how medieval it is and jump out to find a saner, more balanced society with ideas to share, debate and compare.

    • actually there are some OLD science experiments as a basis for this…but thankfully I don’t think anyone has recently tested this theory of boiling frogs to see if it is actually valid.

      It is still a good metaphor….

      • It really creeped me out, and then made me sad. But I can’t even raise my voice to my dog…:)

    • This is an analogy commonly used in domestic violence therapy (the boiling frog).

  176. Sweet Dreams Jodi, you will soon be free and the media will soon forget all about this case. God Bless everyone who is praying for Jodi and Her Team.

    • I concur Lura,God bless Jodi,she will soon be a free woman and hopefully the media barrage will subside.God speed to her defence team and witnesses.

  177. Tapes were released because TA himself stated in the emails that he was a sociopath. The email to and from Chris Hughes and Sky.

  178. Her father was a vain steroid freak…. see the pictures of his younger days. He bragged about bench pressing 500 lbs, though he wasn’t an athlete, which leads me to believe since there was really no purpose for the mus-skulls(Popeye) ….strictly for vanity. Roid rage..

    • Maybe it was Lithium that knocked out his kidneys??? Is he bipolar?? Runs in families???

        • I do not know and that is my point. None of us or the talking heads know anything about these people. What I do know is the parents thought that she was bipolar. Why did THEY say that? It may mean they have familiarity with that disorder because they know about it from their own experience.

          • I thought Jodi’s mother said that one of Jodi’s friends called her and said she thought Jodi was bipolar. Did I get that wrong?

          • Oh they said that? I have not seen the interviews. I have lived with Bipolar Disorder for about 25 years and I have never thought she showed the signs IMO. It is hard to know though just seeing her on TV. It does run in my family though.

            • Forgot to add, Bipolar Disorder is nothing to be ashamed of and can be treated. I work with many groups to fight the stigma and to help people get treatment.

  179. I’m finally home from work and I just sent an e-mail to Amazon representatives about all the reviews on Alyce’s book. This is what I wrote them.

    “I would like to report a bunch of reviews on the book “It Could Happen To Anyone: Why Battered Women Stay” by Alyce LaViolette. The majority of reviews are only to bash the author and not a review of the book at all. I strongly feel Amazon needs to do something about this and the reviews on this book need to be moderated much more closely. The author, Alyce LaViolette, is currently a witness for the defense in the Jodi Arias murder trial, and people are bashing her on your site to try and discredit this wonderful woman. The fact that she is testifying in a trial has nothing at all to do with her book, and the only “reviews” on this site should be directly related to the book itself and not personal, unrelated thoughts about the author. Thank you.”

    • Britney, I just did the same.

      My concern is that one of the jurors might go to Amazon to order one of her books and see these awful statements. I know they are not suppose to read media coverage of the trial but does that hold true for purchasing a book? I think I just answered my own question…probably not allowed….but, I can see a juror looking up one of her books for purchase. Hopefully, none of them will.

      • I think they are to refrain from anything that relates to the trial. That would include looking up anything about the witnesses.

    • wow… and shanna hogans crappy book? Please – we all know it does not deserve 5 stars… but will get them

    • Britney…Let’s all keep calling Amazon…it is the only way to get it stopped…

      Earlier this evening…I spoke with an Amazon representative…and they have filed the proper paper work to send to the moderator that will be looking at those negative comments on Alyce LaViolette book..

      Amazon telephone number in the USA/toll free is 866-216-1071..

      Amazon’s Customer Service people are very nice to work with in resolving these issues…they read the negative comments while I was on the phone with them for about 35 minutes… and they agreed that the negative comments had nothing to do with the book…hopefully within the next 24 hours the negative comments will be removed from her book reviews…

      This is a follow up email from Amazon CSR that I spoke with earlier….

      Message From Customer Service

      Hello XXXXX,

      I’ve forwarded your issue to our Community department. You should hear back from them in the next 1-2 business days.

      Thank you for taking the time to contact Amazon.com. We hope you will keep us in mind for your future purchases.

      Best regards,
      XXXX

      • Most excellent. We will wait 24 hours, if not resolved, we call again. I wanted to cry. This poor woman is being bullied. She is a pioneer in her field, she knows her stuff. Just because they want her professional opinion to be wrong, does not mean she is wrong or deserves this treatment.

        Clearly, there was domestic violence involved. Did Travis deserve to die in that manner? No, I can never say that about another human being, no matter what their actions if life. But, it was self defense. What happened during the stabbing, we will never know. It was horrific. Whether it was Jodi, overkill out of fear or something snapped after having to defend herself in such a violent fashion, or whether Jodi did not do this at all, domestic violence was there.

  180. Traffic Charge Against Travis on July 12, 2006 – Failure to Produce Evidence of Financial Responsibility …

    Is this driving without insurance or what?

    Case Information
    Case Number: M-0741-3501317
    Title: St of Az vs ALEXANDER Category: Traffic
    Court: Phoenix Municipal Filing Date: 7/12/2006
    Judge: Disposition Date: 8/23/2006
    TRAVIS VICTOR ALEXANDER DEFENDANT – D 1 Date of Birth: 07/1977
    Citation Count Description Disp. Date Disposition
    PPD13228405 1 FAIL TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE OF FIN. RESP. 8/22/2006 COMPL DISMISSED BY COURT

    • It basically means no proof of valid insurance. That can happen when you don’t have your insurance card handy when stopped by police for speeding etc. That happened to my son but his ticket was dismissed when he showed up in court with proof of insurance. That may have happened to Travis and that is why it may have been dismissed…

  181. I read over at that forum this morning and they were planning to post those bad reviews en masse.

    The few people who spoke out against doing such a thing had their posts deleted and oddly, are gone. As in, gone. Or blocked. The people and the posts. Very democratic.

    Kudos to the person who said they alerted Amazon about the fraud. I tried to but am not sure it went through to the reviewing police. Ha ha. I did read on yet another site that the media caught wind of those jerks and their jerk werk. Serves dem right.

  182. How is everyone tonight? I’m taking it easy, I was livid earlier. I went for a nice walk now i’m watching baseball. I cannot believe what went on today with the threats, harassment, it is so vile. There is no excuse for that behavior. I understand Travis’ family and their pain but these nutballs that never even knew Travis going crazy over Jodi are just out there. They are two tacos short of a combo plate. I hope everyone has a nice evening.
    Trix

  184. It should be a colorful day in the courtroom Thursday…

    Rumor has it that Tanisha told some Travis supporters that they can wear their ribbons again…on Thursday…Travis supporters will be wearing their blue ribbons in the courtroom…and it was said that the Travis supporters make up the majority of the courtroom of folks…

    The jurors should be seeing lots of blue on Thursday…

  185. OH, so now Tanisha controls the court room:} Wasn’t this ordered by the judge that only family members can wear these ribbons?

  186. OMG….I am just watching HLN and they have edited the footage to make Jodi look bad…I watched this earlier today and on the footage of the mother be interviewed they said “did you ask her” (about the murder), and the mother said “of course I asked her ‘did you to GO to Arizona'”….but now they are making it sound like the mother asked Jodi “did you do it”….they edited out where the mother says the word GO….she only asked if Jodi went to his house…she did not ask “did you kill” or “did you do it”. WOW

  187. Anyone have any idea which date they deemed the letters forgeries? I haven’t seen anything that confirms they were. Just that they were precluded.

    Since the original motion to preclude the letters states that photocopies aren’t allowed, I’m still pretty convinced this is the reason why they were.

    One of the minute entries says that the expert analysis of the letters would be concluded by 3/18/11 yet they don’t get precluded till August. Why months later? Why not after the analysis was completed?

    Other than Chris Hughes acting the fool on the stand and saying they were forgeries I can’t find any other proof. Just this ridiculous seed Chris planted with the help of Martinez.

    If Sandra Arias has copies of those, why hasn’t she allowed them to be posted on this site? It’d probably help a lot.
    And Why in the world does CH have TAs journal? Shouldn’t that be evidence?!?

    On another note…on twitter it was mentioned that Jodi’s grandfather didn’t have any .25 ammo. But did have a box for .25 with .22 calibers in it. Does anyone else know anything about this? Is the grandfather really sure it was a .25? Is there anyway to check for the original registration of the cousin he inherited it from?

    • Martinez said the letters were heresay, and even if they were not heresay, they were irrelevant. Apparently, he got his way. I think if they had been original copies, (which someone has somewhere), then Alyce would have been able to summarize them in general, but she may not have been able to quote anything directly. Just as she is doing with Jodi’s and Travis’s emails and text messages now

  188. Question? I admit that I am a strong supporter of Travis Alexander. I am curious as to what your members feel the strongest evidence is in support of Jodi Arias. What evidence do you feel I could be overlooking, that you think could change my mind?

    • As in premeditated you mean I assume? Why would a woman stop an get gas use credit cards
      not cash. Stop at a lot of places in California to visit friends. Get her nails done. Plan on going
      on to Utah but the ex keeps calling texting begging an she still does care for him.
      So she goes out of her way to go SEE HIM. Why would she leave such a trail of
      evidence if it was all planned like the other side says? why would she leave a camera?
      she is a photographer not a idiot. (somebody else put that laundry in there)

      I believe Travis was a HOT HEAD he went off over that camera being dropped. Fight
      went on she admits the shot. The rest ?? how do I know she was not unconscious for
      awhile. Wakes up to a gruesome scene an picks up the few things she does an runs
      out in a panic in a FOG.

      With the MORMON’S being so big there an now knowing TRAVIS was way more
      into the WOMEN then we ever knew before I would say Travis had some serious
      enemies around Mesa Arizona. An on top of that he was in DEBT borrowing money
      from a lot of people. Then he lays there WED THUR FRI SAT SUN MON? NO WAY!

      More to the story no one will ever know I think. He missed CHURCH he Missed HOME MEETING
      he missed BUSINESS calls…………his ring an cell phone on the counter? his lap top open
      in his office? 2 roommates there the whole time did not find anything strange? NO WAY

      OH ya Travis don’t say Hey guys going to be gone please feed the dog? so that is a crock
      those guys saying oh we thought he was gone already bull crap !

      No one worries about him until MONDAY night at 10 pm ? why because the Business trip
      is the next day ! NO WAY ! oh the ROOMMATES do laundry pull out the BLEACHED BLOODY
      stuff do their laundry an put back in Travis’s. COME ON ! too much weirdo stuff going
      on in that house for 6 days ! Mormon’s Virgins all this crap sneaking around hunting a Virgin
      too marry no one would have him? just something is not right. An by the way Jodi is not the
      first gf he called CRAZY ! he said that about Deanna he dated for 6 years too! hmmm

      I think also if tires were slashed he did it ! an probably wrote that nasty email to LISA ! why you say
      because guess what she was so SCARED she asked that snake to spend the NIGHT!
      Yea he was very sneaky an very good at being a FAKE ! say you never met one before. I
      knew when I looked at his MY SPACE an watched his PPL videos an heard his voice
      on that recording. Why did Jodi record that I bet someone told her you better cover your
      ass Travis is telling everyone your NUTS. Ya I would have recorded it too.There are
      some real WEIRDOS out there that can SUCK in a NAIVE person. An the whole
      world would think they are a SAINT an the other one is NUTS.

      • Rhonda in Alabama, as much as I normally enjoy your contribution to this site, I’m afraid on this particular post of yours, my feeling is not so positive as it usually is. With all due respect, your reply to this person’s inquiry was not only steeped in bias and heavily based on your own speculations regarding alternative events taking place as a possibility, but, your negative comments and name calling (i.e. that snake) would have immediately discredited what you had to offer even if it wasn’t biased speculation. You may not have issued death threats to anyone’s children or loved ones but you still resorted to bashing on some level. No, you didn’t bash Renee but you did bash Travis and, as a strong supporter of Travis, bashing him may as well be bashing Renee. After all, when others from the Travis side bash Jodi’s character by calling her names, do you not take offense? Perhaps, almost as if they were bashing you? I think, on some scale, we all do. Again, I say this to you only with the utmost respect.

        • Yes, Krystal. I think Renee asked a question in a fair minded way and deserves to be answered with the evidence, the facts that we know to be true. There is no proof that Jodi went there to kill Travis. We aren’t sure about the weapon that was taken from grandpa’s. Who took it and precisely what kind of gun it was. No gun in connection with this have been found. The pics really aren’t proof either that it was premed. What would her motive be? From her own diary and emails at that time she wasn’t jealous of Travis seeing Mimi. To think she would plant that in emails and diary because she was trying to cover her plan is very far reaching in my mind. There would be such easier ways if she really planned his murder.

          Renee, there is a lot on this forum about the evidence. Many posters have written about the facts in the case, not the spin of the media. It’s actually very interesting reading if you want to take the time.

        • Krystal, I truly respect your post. I do understand the issues involved in this case have stirred a lot of passion within people (me included), so I take no personal offense to Rhonda’s post. At the same time, I don’t want this to turn into a name calling, bashing discussion. Thank you for respecting my intentions. 🙂

          • Yes I should not have even bothered. I am not a lawyer or a pre law person just a average person just like on the Jury. As I stated why? because she dropped his expensive camera. He was a Hot Head with Jodi. I believe what she said the fight went on. She protected herself Self Defense.Who am I to say how one protects their-self if scared for their life?

            • No, Rhonda, you should have bothered and I hope, sincerely hope, that I have not offended you because that was not my intention in the least. You’ve been one of the few select contributors to this site whose posts I will actually look for. Your perspective and even your speculations have done too much to try and keep track of in the way of shoving me out of the box and my comfort zone, forcing me to consider other options.

              I was merely pointing out that Renee asked a fair question and she was very respectful in the way she presented it. She was open to considering anything we offered to her in the way of evidence that would sway her in her feelings at that time. That is huge. We always talk about how we wish we could reach the Travis supporters, how if they would just give us a chance to reason with them, we just know we could convert them. Wow, that sounded bad. That we could help them make sense of the truth and see the hate campaign for what it was.

              Well, Renee is our chance to do that and I worried that your response would discourage her because of the name calling and because the possibility of other people involved can not be backed up with any physical evidence so it is irrelevant. Answering her question with this possibility reads too much like a conspiracy theory and we all know how well they’re regarded. I did not want to see you possibly be viewed as such nor did I want Renee to possibly feel this way and give up on her efforts to sort through the bull shit to find the truth, whatever that may be.

              He was a hot head, this can be proven. It can also be proven that he was financially stretched to his limits and an expensive camera being dropped, maybe broken, would likely set him off. As it would anybody. I, too, believe this. I also believe her account regarding how the fight went down in the beginning and the rest is lost in her mind’s self preservation mechanisms that disconnected her completely from reality.

              However, self defense does not mean kill. It means incapacitate to a degree that will allow you to flee and get help. At some point during the 27 stabs, he was incapacitated, it would defy physics if he was not. Anything inflicted on him after that is overkill, like it or not. Her duty to flee was not followed, by no knowing fault of her own, still she failed to do this. Legally, this is her crown of thorns.

              In response to your comment about who are you to say how one protects themselves when scared for their life, this is true for not just you but everyone else as well. Including the hateful Travis supporters who demand blood and death for Jodi. Psychology is not an exact science and, for all that we know about the human mind, we have barely scratched the surface. To think we can master the understanding of it, especially when it is in survival mode, is, quite honestly and simply, ignorant and arrogant at it’s best.

              Just because the general rule of thumb is that killing someone like Jodi killed Travis is not how the majority of individuals would have handled themselves in the same situation does not mean NOBODY would handle themselves that way. Obviously, because Jodi did. Travis supporters who dismiss her actions and call her pure evil because of what she did need to realize there is always an exception to every rule.

              Also, I think we sometimes forget that, unless we are in the exact same situation, under the exact same circumstances, and we are chemically and genetically identical as well as having suffered the same exact trials and tribulations as the person on trial, we can NOT honestly say we would never be capable or that would never do what they did. Because we do not know the future therefore we can not definitively say such a thing. The best we can say is that we HOPE we would make better choices for ourselves.

              This is a very difficult concept for many people to grasp.

        • Want to Comment?
          Welcome to the #1 Jodi Arias Support site. All comments are moderated. If you are a knuckle-dragging hater – or a TravisTown pedo-hugger – then do not waste your invaluable time here. Your post will be deleted and you will be banned. You have been told. We are TEAM JODI… and WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS. Make no mistake. SJ / Team Jodi.

          You may need to re read this an also READ the daily input on this site. I did not go over board anymore than anyone else has that runs the site here. Actually I was fairly tame I think. I have an opinion an you do too. The person wanted to know why I supported Jodi an those are the facts an if I were a Juror that is what would be going through my mind. They have to say BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT on the verdict they chose if they believe she did this in Self Defense. The public is out raged at mostly the STABS AN SLASHES I am just pointing out a fact where is the PROOF she did the whole act except she thinks she did but she can’t remember all of it just the shooting part an falling on the floor with Travis on top of her. Reasonable Doubt is there for me. As I do believe it was in Self Defense. Not certain about after the shot though as Jodi is not certain either.

          • But, Rhonda, there is no proof that anyone else inflicted those wounds and an expert witness testified as to why Jodi wouldn’t remember doing it herself. Therefore, regardless of what we think, we have to accept that she did it whether or not there is proof it was her or she remembers.

            You are right in your statement about not behaving in a bashing manner any more than anyone else has at some point on this side, myself included. However, addressing Travis Town Pedo-huggers as a whole is not the same as calling him a snake when addressing one of his supporters. Especially, when that one supporter is reaching out to us in an attempt to understand everything and they are doing this respectfully. If you felt strongly about someone and I referred to them as a snake knowing full well how you felt about them, can you truly say it would not upset you?

            Remember, I am not attacking you.

            As an aside, though, the Travis Town Pedo-hugger remark is a tiny bit similar to their name calling of all of us who post here. Just saying.

            Now, let’s all hug! (((((all))))

      • Thank you for replying Rhonda. I am curious about what evidence presented to the jury makes people believe Jodi acted in self-defense. I wouldn’t expect a supporter of Jodi to even address the issue of premeditation, other than to say there is no way it could be premeditated because it was self-defense.

      • Rhonda…I read your post…and it looks as though you just summed up in 8 paragraphs what everyone has been posting on this site for weeks…

        When Renee directed this question to you specifically: “What evidence do you feel I could be overlooking, that you think could change my mind?”

        She opened the door for you to answer that question based on “what evidence do you feel”…she asked for your feelings…

        And I think you did a great job posting your post…I did not take any offense to anything that you said…keep posting your great posts…they are very informative…

    • Renee Low..

      What first did it for me was the fact that the whole start of the case against Jodi was based on the lies that she was a stalker. There is no evidence of stalking. Based on Travis’ history with other women, it could be anyone who slashed his tires. It could be a jilted lover’s ex-boyfriend…or someone who hated him for “taking” their woman and using her.

      Jodi was a different woman before the abuse by travis, this has been documented by her ex and family.

      Things are just too numerous to list, but there really is no way i am going to convince you of anything if you don’t see it already…I don’t mean that in a negative way…it has been laid out for us.

      The pedophile letters HAVE NOT been verified as forgeries, that is one thing you might be clinging too and mistaken about. the experts would only say they were copies and not originals. That is one MAJOR misconception that the anti-Jodi people have.

      • BeeCee, I actually agree with you on a few of things! I don’t believe that Travis’ history with women was the best. I do believe that he was a flirt and did not value females in the way they should be. Also, the tire slashing hasn’t been proved as to the person responsible. Yes, it was presented that Jodi did experience a change in her persona in the months preceding Travis’ death; however, I believe it was due to rejection as opposed to abuse. The pedophile letters – I don’t believe have been presented to the jury, have they?

        • You need to listen to that recorded phone call then again. They both talk about his trip to Cancun him coming to visit her after that…………..also she even talks about when they both finally marry other Mormons she hoped to find one freaky like him etc. but did not know how all Mormon’s were? Yes she was attracted to him but moving back to California was the first step to get away from him. His persistence is evident from other women testifying. She was going to try to date Ryan so I believe she was moving on. Travis was rejected yet again by Mimi as in going to Cancun as friends nothing else an also if he wanted he could take someone else she would understand.

          Travis was rejected by the Virgins is what I am hearing. Jodi rejected not hardly she felt sorry for him though she loved him but she was not what he wanted to marry an she understood that. That is what I am hearing an reading.

          • Rhonda,
            Even with me being a Travis supporter – I am soooo tired of HLN and their one-sided scoop on everything; and, I am also offended by the horrible, unnecessary remarks regarding Alice LaViolette. I have not really taken the time to try to possibly understand the Jodi Arias supporters’ viewpoints. That is why I posted the question on this site. I DO appreciate your comments, even though we may not see all things the same. I really don’t mean to offend you or anyone! Thank you for responding, as it does give me things to consider.

    • Renee,
      Please tell us at least briefly what convinces you that Jodi is guilty. Then people here will give you their various opinions and arguments on your evidence and interpretations. Otherwise please read back posts and discussions on this site throughout the trial.

      • Viri – Good point! Prior to posting I did read a lot of discussions on this site, which does contain a mountain of bashing, etc., which made it hard to read. Don’t get me wrong, I realize it is the same experience the Jodi supporters have when viewing the opposing pages too.
        I don’t believe in any sense that Travis and Jodi’s relationship was healthy. In all relationships it could be said there is emotional abuse. Have you ever argued with your mate, or made a snide remark, or got irritated at something he/she did or said? Yes, there are also extreme cases of different types of abuse that are not common in relationships. The defense tried to present the case as Travis being an abuser; however throughout Jodi’s testimony when questioned about events between her and Travis she made it clear that she would never tell Travis how she really felt. This is a poor example but… if I bought a tie for my husband’s birthday every year, and each time he told me that he loved it, but really he couldn’t stand them – I would probably continue to get him ties. It ties into what Jodi has done (no pun intended.) If Jodi would have told Travis what she really felt and he continued treating her poorly, then I would say that was abuse. But she didn’t, in fact she did the opposite. He may have been a jerk, but not an abuser.
        Jodi gave different stories. She wasn’t there; she was there but intruders did it; she did it in self-defense. She admitted that she gave the intruder story because it fit the evidence. It wasn’t until much later (2010 I believe) that she claimed responsibility to some degree. The most incriminating evidence to me is the time stamped photos, along with the crime scene photos. IF the self-defense claim Jodi presented was factual, then the photos that exist couldn’t be accurate. 62 seconds is too short of a time. Jodi testified that she did remember dropping the bloody knife in the bathroom and screaming. Jodi has told so many lies. The expert testimony presented by the defense (Dr. Samuels and Alyce Laviolette) is only telling one side of the story. Because of the extreme lies told by Jodi, I find myself having a difficult time seeing the expert’s opinions as factual – due to much of the information they are using to form their opinions is based on what Jodi has told them. I have rambled on beyond brief… I look forward to hearing more of your comments!

        • You can’t say he was not mental abusing her ? really a man that pulls you in an pushes you away a hundred times but you love him an keep coming back. Then he continues to spread vicious rumors that have no proof to them so the whole MORMON CLICK hate you. Make you out to be a nut case in love with him an won’t go away. So you move far away but he continues to call you text you email you etc. But your the nut case? none of that makes sense. She did love him she did not want to tell all of this history she did not want to tarnish his image. She made those stories up to go around the facts he was not what everyone thought he was or pretended he was.

          I truly believe in 2010 after his one friend Ashley Thompson committed suicide Jodi was afraid for her life from the Mormon community or that click. There is something more to the story we will never know. Ashley had called in to the Detective Flores about her ex acting strange after Travis’s death but nothing was really investigated about it. The suicide is suspicious to me.

          It was self defense she said she shot him she was scared etc. She does not remember the stabbing she THINKS she heard the knife fall she thinks she may have put it in the dishwasher but she had done dishes so many times there she is not certain if it was from that day or another day etc.

          An seriously if he was so pushing her completely away why is JODI in his NUMBER ONE SPOT on my space? if you were really sick of a person the first thing you do is REMOVE them from your My Space / FB accounts you do not keep in touch with them period. He continued she hoped for change there was none.

          You know you can beat some people every day an they still love the person but another person may let you beat them an they will eventually fight back. Some people will let you beat them to death. Everyone has a breaking point but put in a life or death situation where you think you may die this time some will react an take every bad time out on the attacker at that moment. That is how I see it an why some have such over kill. I do know every one does not react the same to every thing in life. No one can say I would have done it different unless they were in the same situation with the same person because everyone is different.

    • Hi Renee! Welcome to this site. I’m sure it is only due to site technical issues that nobody replied to your post for as long as it went unanswered. This site is full of good people who, for the most part, are very open minded. In general, we try to base our thoughts and speculating solely on the evidence or testimony.

      I think it takes a lot of balls to come on a supporter site and so frankly announce your stance as a supporter of the other side. This and the fact that you asked such a reasonable and fair question, without any snarkiness or elementary insults being hurled around, speaks volumes of your character. Oh, and your balls. Proverbial as they may be. That said, I cannot feel anything but respect for you.

      Do I believe the state has proven premeditation? Not by a long shot. Even the most narcissistic personality knows how to pick their battles and they pick those battles with opponents that they can easily destroy while avoiding battles with those who could wipe the floor with them.

      To say Jodi premeditated Travis’ murder is absurd. No woman with a lick of sense would attack a man twice her size with a knife, of all things, and prosecution claims the stabs came first. Prosecution says the gunshot came last but that would make Travis dead when it was inflicted and the blood spatter on the bathroom mirror is patterned in a way that is consistent with moderate velocity spray commonly caused by the coughing up and spitting out of blood. Usually, the only way someone aspirates on blood is if the lungs, throat, or stomach has been pierced. However, facial wounds can cause the coughing of blood.

      Say, for instance, a wound from a bullet that ripped through the sinus cavities and lodged in a cheek. That type of wound would fill the sinuses with blood causing the nose to bleed and bloody post nasal drip. Not to mention, the bullet knocked one of his teeth out. It is much more plausible to believe he was shot first and, while looking at the extent of his injury in the mirror (leaning over the bathroom sink), the pressure from the blood in his sinuses as well as the drip causes a coughing fit as he struggles to breath. What happens from there is anyone’s guess, really, and nobody will ever know the reality of it.

      Right now, in terms of physical evidence in support of Jodi, I don’t see much. However, I don’t see much in the way of physical evidence that is damning either. I suppose it comes down to what context you are using the word ‘support’ in when talking about Jodi? Do I support that she is innocent of any crime? No. She, admittedly, committed a crime and she committed it in a way that is overkill by any and all standards. Do I feel she was justified in the way she killed him or that she killed him at all? No. There is no justification for killing someone when they have been rendered all but useless during your fight as Travis was. However, I do understand her killing him. I can see how she would have snapped and frantically stabbed over and over at anything she could make contact with on his body. As she did this, if he still didn’t die, her panic would only escalate until she was in a frenzied state of absolute terrifying anxiety and it is this state of mind that would allow her to believe such extreme measures as the throat slit were necessary. I can see how, in those moments, she is reduced to her primitive nature as she kills and kills repeatedly until there is no more sign of life because it is only then that she will be able to truly feel the threat to her own life has been eradicated.

      Again, understanding does not justify or excuse the actions of another. I do not support Jodi being acquitted with time served. I do support Jodi receiving a conviction of involuntary manslaughter or some other lessor charge because, truth is, she did not intend to kill him at first.

      Even in the heat of the battle, as he chased her, when she raised that gun her only thought was that just the sight of the gun would stop him. She never intended to shoot it. I feel she is sincere about that. I mean, women who love their partners don’t typically kill them. It’s common sense. There are a lot of DV victims on this site. I’d be willing to bet my left boob that not one of them would tell you today that they had an ounce of love for the person who abused them in the past. And my left boob is the bigger one so that just shows you how confident I am about this.

      Justice for Travis has been carried out, at least it’s been started, in that Jodi was apprehended within 2 months of killing him and has been locked up in a very harsh environment since then. She has no freedom, no life, and for all that she has many defense mechanisms working overtime to keep her isolated from her part in Travis’ death, I guarantee you that there are times when she is aware of the part of her psyche that knows she is responsible for it and it looms like the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about.

      Justice will continue for Travis if justice can be defined by the utter annihilation of an individual’s character and, in turn, the destruction of just about all chances that person may have had at ever knowing normalcy again. Because, even if Jodi walked free tomorrow, where does she go? What does she do? Where does she work, live, who does she befriend? Who will be romantically involved with her that won’t prey on her knowing how easily manipulated she is? She has been smeared by the media and the court of public opinion has clearly already tried, convicted, and sentenced her. That only accounts for the social aspect of her life because I imagine the personal aspect, that is, what she will undoubtedly suffer with from the crime she committed and the trial that followed, this will be tortuous enough.

      Jodi will never know true happiness, peace, love, or be able to appreciate anything in it’s full beauty again. Her existence will be bleak. She will likely work hard to brighten it and may even have bouts of success in her feats. However, it will always come back to bleak. Justice served, if you ask me. Especially, when Travis’ existence was tortuous during his life and he has been released from this torment, free to do whatever it is his particular faith says goes on after one dies.

      If Jodi was somehow convicted of a lessor charge that carried a maximum sentence of 15 years to life with the possibility of parole and she got credited 5 years time served that would leave 10 years, during which time she could go before the board and possibly parole out, but the most she would do would be an additional 5 years after she got time off for good behavior, this would be justice in legal terms to me. 10 years of her life lost, a lifetime more to live every day knowing what she’s done and learning to cope with it in a way that will allow her to raise awareness about her plight so that, hopefully, others in the same spot can relate to her story and find themselves in it, thus, allowing them to GTFO of their situation with their souls intact.

      From tragedy can come triumph if one allows for it. No matter how horrific the tragedy. Failure and success go hand in hand, one cannot exist without the presence of the other. Jodi would do Travis’ memory a service, if he was the man he wrote about being in his blog and I believe he was to some extent, by dedicating her life to inspiring and motivating others to empower themselves. She could save lives with her story, be it by causing an abuser to stop and take notice of what their fate could be if they fuck with the wrong bitch or by causing a victim to take notice of a fate that could be theirs and enable them to make a change. Jodi is an example of the truth behind the belief that there is life after destruction, devastation, and utter ruin.

      At the end of the day, though, I do not join either alliance. I have come to love both Jodi and Travis, despite and, perhaps, in spite of their flaws and faults. Travis was a man with a dark past that had followed him into adulthood and manifested into something very sick inside him. He gave a valiant effort to bury that part of him deep within but his efforts were futile and his end would be almost as saddening as his beginning. Travis was a victim of circumstance and a product of the environment in, which, he was raised long before Jodi came along. It is amazing, honestly, that Travis was not a serial rapist or serial violent offender with a long rap sheet. It’s even more amazing that he never fell into drugs.

      He inspired and touched a lot of people and this can not be ignored or dismissed. Regardless of whether or not he was preaching one thing and living another, the fact of the matter is that his preaching was life changing for many people. If the impact he made in other people’s lives had a positive effect, does it really matter why he did it or if he practiced his own preaching? I don’t think so, not with as many people he has who will not hesitate to regale you with the story of how Travis inspired them to better themselves. But, I’m preaching to the choir, right? You, being a strong supporter of Travis, already know these things. I’m just trying to convey to you that I, too, acknowledge them and understand their importance.

      Without completely picking apart your post here to analyze, I get the impression that you feel guilty for even thinking about coming on this site, let alone that you did it. Like, you feel you are betraying your friend or that you are doubting him. I could be wrong, this is just an impression I got from the words you chose to use when posing your questions. If I am right, though, if it helps at all, understand that it is normal to question things, abnormal not to. There is nothing to feel guilty about because you can be in support of Travis and Jodi at the same time. They are both broken souls who someone (a parent or parents) failed miserably when it came to giving them the proper tools necessary to survive adversity. Coping skills, being the biggest absence here. If you truly loved your friend, that love will not go away no matter what you uncover about him. Because, as we so often are reminded by our own actions or that of another, love just doesn’t have a cure. It’s either love or it’s hate. One or the other extreme on either side of the spectrum, that’s it.

      I hope this helps you resolve whatever you may (or may not be) struggling with inside yourself. If you’d like to talk more privately, you can email me at krystaljohnstonroberts@yahoo.com

      • Hi Krystal! Thank you for being so welcoming! Okay… I had to read your post a couple of times, because you cracked me up! The second time through I was able to absorb more of what you were conveying, though I did chuckle at times.
        No, I do not feel guilty or ashamed for coming on this site. My feelings regarding the issues presented in the trial are very strong. I wish to see that justice is served also. Does this mean the death penalty? Not necessarily. I have never been a supporter of it. I realize that my opinion is just that – it’s mine. I am not on the jury, so what I think or feel has no bearing on the outcome of the trial at all. But… I do try to have compassion for other people, and I like to think of myself as an open-minded person. Just because I like to think of myself that way, does not mean that is the way I am. I have been told (many times) by my family that I am stubborn. They are correct!
        I have formed my opinion(s) about the trial. I shouldn’t have because evidence is still being presented in trial. I do not like the bashing that is in the media, nor on any of the supporters pages of Jodi or Travis. After thinking about all of that, I came to the realization that I am no better. I have read so much from other supporters of Travis, and until recently, very little of the other side. That is not really fair.
        I too am a victim of domestic abuse; verbal, emotional, and physical. For me, it was MANY years ago. I only carry one physical scar, but I can honestly say that is the only wound I carry with me today. You are correct – I do not have one ounce of love for the man that abused me. Unlike Jodi or Travis, I had a wonderful family and childhood. I was completely blind-sided when the abuse began. You said, “No woman with a lick of sense would attack a man twice her size with a knife, of all things…” Well, I did not attack my ex. He was 6’2 and around 220lbs. and I was 5’3 and 105lbs. at the most. For me, you could say I did not have a lick of sense. Heck, I say it myself! During a heated moment, he yelled at me “how do you know that I’m not going to slit your throat some night when you’re sleeping?!?!?” Being tired of being tired, I was ready to give in. I went to the kitchen, got a butcher knife, held it out for him to take (handle first even), and told him “if you’re going to do it, do it now.” Dumbass as I was – that was just a plain stupid thing to do, but he never did take the knife from me. I won’t go into anymore details about my abuse, it’s not about me. I just brought this to the table to let you know that I am quite familiar with it. Many people in an abusive situation do not have their senses in check. If they did, they (me included) would not stay in an abusive relationship as long as they do. I do wish that anybody that has been abused recovers and overcomes the “journey” they are forced to travel, as strong of a person I feel that I have become.
        I am trying to be open-minded. But, please take no offense, as I AM stubborn. It’s unlikely that my opinion will make a 180 degree turn, but I AM willing to consider all that is offered in a non-combative way. Krystal, your post has made the most sense to me. You have your opinions, and I respect the way you presented them. Honestly for the first time, even though I see the end result of Jodi’s guilt being the same as I felt before, you have made me realize that she is a person. That sounds strange, but whenever I think about Jodi I always think about the bad things she’s done or said. By the way you spoke of some of Travis’ good qualities, you are getting me to consider that maybe there are some good qualities to Jodi as well. As of this moment I can’t say what they would be, other than she is a good artist. I guess that’s a baby step, or at least a toe jiggle, huh?

        • Actually, Renee, what you said about my making you realize that Jodi is a person is not strange at all. Neither is your thinking about only the bad things when you think of Jodi. I have another post I spent an embarrassing number of hours composing earlier and I talk about this very topic. You may find it interesting and you can read it here, if you wish….

          https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/jodi-arias-trial-day-40-jodi-arias-is-innocent-jodi-arias-not-guilty-team-jodi/#comment-62229

          In response to your last paragraph, well, I have to be honest and say that no greater compliment has ever been paid to me. I don’t know if you meant it as a compliment to me and, quite frankly, don’t really care because that’s how I’m taking it. So there.

          However, I know, for me, when I first decided to see what I could learn about Jodi before I made up my mind completely as to where I stood on this case, if I found someone who posted in a manner I could understand so that the information being presented was easy for me to process and digest, I would have clung to that source and relied on it when the rest of the muck became too overwhelming. Which, is why I have not left this site.

          That said, I’d like to provide some links to my other posts because there might be something in them that can answer your questions. Then again, they could just confuse you further. Who knows? With me, I either hit or I miss, there is rarely an in between when I write about stuff like this. Where you might relate to me or agree with me in one of my posts, in another, you could just as easily become convinced I’m bat shit crazy. On the latter, you’d probably be correct. But, that’s neither here nor there.

          https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/jodi-arias-trial-day-37-afternoon-session-jodi-arias-is-innocent/#comment-52486

          This is a comment I posted in response to someone who brought up Travis’ childhood and why it had not been discussed at that point yet. I copied a section of a post I wrote in response to a woman who is a friend of both Travis’ and Jodi’s and included it in my response because, in the post to Travis’ friend, I talk about his childhood. As per usual, I had an epiphany or two and the post ended up being 6 pages (msword) long. Roughly.

          While I understand that is A LOT of reading, I think you’ll find some of the points I make interesting and they may even answer your questions. Understand, there is a lot of speculating on my part, with the killer in a fog and the victim’s outward lifestyle being a sham, what’s a girl to do besides speculate when trying to fill in the blanks, ya know? However, I believe I remain unbiased and try to be as objective as possible. If you find some free time, perhaps, you are fresh out of entertaining reading material for bathroom time, read a couple lines and see where it goes from there.

          https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/juan-martinez-losing-the-jury-the-plot-and-the-trial-jodi-arias-is-innocent-team-jodi/#comment-48113

          Okay, that’s the last post I’ll link to you because I’m starting to feel creepy, like, I’m shoving myself down your throat. Which, is not the way to make friends, I’ve been told so I’m going to stop. Like I think I mentioned before, if you would like to discuss this case in more detail you can email me personally at krystaljohntonroberts@yahoo.com. I am more than game for bouncing ideas off of one another and forcing each other to consider that, which, we never thought we would be likely to consider. There is a challenge to this that excites me in it’s promise that I will grow from the experience, be it in terms of my knowledge will expand or I will reach a personal milestone through some sort of accidental self discovery after seeing the error of my ways. I thrive on shit like that. Good thing, too, as there are many ways in, which, I err.

          Also, real quick (yeah right, I don’t think my long winded and wordy ass can be quick in a discussion if my life depended on it) it’s funny that you mention baby steps and toe jiggles because one of my mantra’s that I constantly tell myself when tackling adversity or trying to do the right thing, whatever that may be at the time, is “Baby steps, Krystal, baby steps.” and if my big girl panties happen to be at the dry cleaners so I cannot wear them, I will still try doing the right thing only on a smaller scale. During those times, I motivate myself with the mantra, “Toe twitches are good, too, Krystal. Toe twitches are good, too.”

          That’s just funny in a weird way.

  189. Who is this person, is she recording the trial or is she using the ones that are online?

    “LOOK AT 35:40 in Tawndilly’s recording….after La Violette talks about this being “normalcy” Jodi looks around the courtroom almost like she’s thinking…”yep, hope they bought that.” It’s quite weird.”

    • Um, Jodi habitually looks around the courtroom, and I don’t blame her. It is hard to look straightforward or straight down for hours on end without looking around.

  190. It actually disgusted me that they aired Jodi’s prison infractions on HLN, acting like Jodi is so horrible. Her infractions were seriously just – she had hidden pens, unauthorized pictures, and unauthorized creams (acne, fungal, ect.). What the heck does that have to do with this murder trial??

    Additionally, they claim Jodi got into an argument with a cellmate and that Jodi said it was self defense. Umm… if Jodi was going around arguing with all the women in the prison, why would they get on camera and say Jodi was innocent and that they all loved her?

    • They will use anything to smear Jodi. There is nothing they twist to slam her. They are so disgusting.

  191. I posted a question (the date/time on the post shows April 4, 2013 at 12:54AM), however it is still showing that it is awaiting moderation. I understand that you have your criteria as to what posts you will allow. I am a Travis supporter, but not here to bash, offend or anything bad. I would just like to get input from your side also. I apologize if you see this as any other way. That is certainly not my intention. Thank you

  192. I checked out the claim that Dr. Cheryl Arutt said that Dr. Samuels said he “I know” in response to “Jodi is guilty as hell. …”

    Dr. Cheryl Arutt made no such claim. She DID NOT say she was the one who talked to Dr. Samuels. Dr. Arutt referred to a comment on an HLN article where some random woman said that she ran into Dr. Samuels and claimed that this happened in an exchange between her and the good doctor. This is some liar, trying to slander Jodi, the doctor, and just be vicious and vile.

    • Here is the comment Dr. Arutt was referring to. This is all smoke and mirrors. Nothing to get stressed about.

      Sally Hutchens

      “I was recently in AZ, and happened to see Dr.Sammuels at a popular resterant in Scottsdale.we were already seated when he walked in and joined a table of 3 people at the table next to us. We knew who he was as one of the people at his table greeted him as a celebrity now! They talked about the trial the whole time we were there. When we were leaving I went over to his table and shook his hand (just because Ive been following the trial from the begining) I said I saw you on the stand today.I also said good job…why I don’t know…he said thank you…I said..shes still guilty as hell….he smiled and said yes I know!

      • I don’t take from that exchange that Dr. Samuels was saying he agreed that Jodi was guilty. What I got when reading it was that the Dr. was acknowledging that he knew this woman thinks she is guilty.

    • But Arutt’s referrence to the comment caused chaos and drama. She likes to do that.

  193. The Mormon missionary who taught Jodi was interviewed on quack Drew. I’ll paraphrase:

    ‘Did you discuss sex before marriage?’
    ‘–Yes, told her about the law of chastity.’
    ‘So she KNEW, didn’t she, about NO sex of any kind before marriage?!’
    ‘–Just said one remains chaste before marriage; didn’t go into details.’
    Pinched lips on host and talk heads.

    ‘You met Travis, was a NICE guy, was he? Did he show abuse toward Jodi?’
    ‘–Only met him twice, briefly. Didn’t know him.’
    Pinched faces on host and talk heads.

    ‘Did you find Jodi STRANGE? Did she ever do some ODD thing?’
    ‘– No. She acted like a normal person, was very studious and dedicated to learn about her new religion.’
    ‘– Of course I always look at the good things in people, but there was nothing odd about her.’
    Pinched faces start to look irritated.

    ‘Don’t you think she could have FAKED it, just to get converted, to be with Travis?’
    ‘–It’s always possible, I guess, but I saw her as dedicated, studious and very eager to learn.’
    ‘– In fact she was always asking thoughtful questions.’
    Teeth start to grind.

    No questions from the talk heads. Moving on.

    (There is at least ONE HONEST MAN in the Mormon world.)

    • bahahaha, viri, this man is a man of God, that is why he is telling the truth. It backfired, they expected him to lie like everyone else.

    • That’s awesome!

      the problem is, they think all the Liar Gang are NOT lying. So they get confused when someone shares information that does not fit in with the Hughes and Liar Gang’s stories.

      LOL

    • viri he is a lier catholics baptize we lean about christ’s life and his teachings they never discuss sex but of course we are baptized just after birth…

  194. HLN, should be taken to court themselves. They make false statements, and are telling the uninformed public these people are guilty, and they haven’t even been convicted by a jury. Why didn’t the girl from the last big trial, sue HLN for slander and unfounded statements and out rite lies, after she was found innocent.

    • Yep Vinny you are right,there has been some law suits against Nancy Disgrace because she slandered and spewed lies about 2 people in which they sadly commited suicide.The families lauched legal action against her for they believed it was her vile mouth and actions which caused these people to kill themselves,both cases were settled out of court,maybe one should spread and sensationalize these stories and see how Nancy Disgrace likes that,maybe she will do all us a favour and follow suit,just like her victims,but wishing that makes me stoop to levels that would put me on par with those assholes at HLN,I am not that type of person.They do make false accusations,edit stories and videos to show only what they want,dig up trash at anygiven time,yet they are immune to any legal prosecution due to the fact of the freedom of the press,They have no soul or conscience and hope that a young woman is put to death,this helps their ratings,BUNCH OF SICK BASTARDS,their mission is to incite the masses against Jodi in hopes that the trial will be biased,I believe it has and if the DP is given I hope that they all live for the rest of their lives with blood on their hands,It is so sad to see that humanity has degraded that much,I though we were civilized till this trial started,I believe in Jodi and she will be a free woman soon,GOD BLESS JODI.

  196. i see the seal up where the judge jury jodi proc defence etc 9:30 they said really

  197. JM can’t touch Alice LaViolette.The only thing Juan Martinez can destroy is the reputation he doesn’t have. LMAO

  198. I’m not sure if it was missed or not but I mentioned a couple days ago in a post that I thought it was odd how, in the photos taken by LE while investigating the robbery at Jodi’s grandparents home, there is a photo of a counter top covered with various boxes of bullets and a bag of loose ammunition. Those boxes, there are about 5 that I can positively identify as being ammunition boxes, have the caliber printed on them. Of the 5, 3 boxes were situated so the caliber of the ammunition it held that is printed on the box could be seen and all three boxes contained .22 caliber rounds.

    I’ve done some research on this and, from what I’ve read, I can say with almost certainty that you can not fire a .22 caliber bullet from a .25 caliber gun. Granted, grandpa owned 3 guns according to the police report and only the .25 caliber automatic pistol was taken. The .25 auto pistol’s magazine was fully loaded with 7 jacketed hollow points when it was stolen. No other ammunition was stolen even though there were multiple boxes of bullets and also that bag full of loose rounds.

    Nobody responded with their thoughts on the original post I wrote discussing this so I just dismissed my feeling that there was something amiss with this and moved on without giving it any more thought. That is, until I saw the interrogation with Jodi’s dad. Flores says: “Do you know if your in laws own a .25 auto pistol?” Jodi’s dad says, “You know what? No, that was a .22 I think, but my father in law’s house was broken into and a gun was stolen” To, which, Flores replies, “The report says it was a .25 caliber automatic pistol………(dramatic pause)….the gun used to shoot Travis was a .25 caliber.”

    I have to say, this is making the hair on my arms stand straight up. Something is fishy here. Could it be that her family is in on it?

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