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Jodi Arias Trial – Day 26 (afternoon session)

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  4. i hope evil Martinez’s and lemon-sucker’s bad energy won’t mess with the comments again here!!!lol!

    Jodi lookss very sad and tired almost lethargic right now

    • has anyone noticed that ”spot” on her lips(sorry,i dont know the word in english).It is often caused by severe stress and anxiety 🙁

      • yes!!!!!!!! i did and i didnt want to say nethingk bc i have had like three redbull vodkas

        but i think cold sores can b caused by stress right

          • I ALWAYS get them when I’m stressed out. And no, they are not sexually transmitted.

            • BUT can be sex. trans.! so be careful. caused by the herpes virus. can be deadly in a person with a sub par immune system.
              it IS spread by contact, just by kissing, etc… and if oral sex is involved while the sore is ‘active’, u can spread it to genitalia… = genital herpes, etc.
              they say a very high % of the population have the virus but it is dormant in many. depends on immune system, strain…

              • No Frank….Not sexually transmitted.
                It is a virus that we all have in our systems. It needs a triggering event top cause it to become active.Usually it is in a dormant state and many people will never have them develop.

                One thing that cause the virus to ‘ Wake up”…. is a bad sunburn to your face.
                That is what woke mine up.
                I was at an air show in hot July weather. No sunscreen , no visor, got really burnt and the next month had the first cold sore ever.
                I had cancer about 10 years before that, Lymphoma, and never one cold sore.
                So, there is no telling what might wake it up in any individual.
                Once it is active tho, stress can be a factor, diet, hormonal changes, fatigue. Never heard of weather being a trigger however.
                Yes it looks like Jodi has one this week, but no surprise after last week’s JM bullying of her on stand!

              • Actually Mabhe you are correct and incorrect, I have to jump in on this one because there is so much misinformation.

                A cold sore can be caused by one of two different versions of the Herpes virus. HSV-1 or HSV-2. Typically HSV-1 is not sexually transmitted, typically HSV-2 is.

                The ONLY way to know for sure if one’s cold sore is HSV-1 and not HSV-2 is to get it tested.

                Both HSV’s CAN infect the genitals. SO…that means it’s best not to give oral sex if a person has a cold sore outbreak.

                please read the following information if you so desire:
                http://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stdfact-herpes.htm

      • I think you need to go someplace else. What she said to Flores was not under oath, and by the way, we live in a country where the prosecution has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. There is reasonable doubt all over the place with this case.

        So where, Joyce, has the prosecution proved this was premeditated murder? Where has the prosecution proven motive?

        They haven’t. She is not going to be acquitted, but she isn’t going to get murder one.

        And THAT is the bottom line.

          • sorry you have your hands full JC…..

            i wish they would just stay away, but they only have two brain cells, so I guess what do we expect.

            • Im sorry too JC… then they want to apologize as to get an, “oh its ok” from us. I recall the same oerson being Sunny too. Im just going to do what someone suggested: ignore them! ! That’ll get to them in a bettter way.

          • I think these pro TA people come on this site expecting to read the same type of hateful remarks that are on their site.

            Image their shock and amazement to find out that we have a brain and our comments are about the evidence and the law! If someone from a pro TA site had an intelligent remark to make fine, but Joyce/Sunny clearly didn’t have anything of value to add to our discussion.

            People who don’t have the facts or evidence to back up their remarks resort to name calling and being rude. It’s as though they haven’t matured beyond the age of 10.

            • Actually Tina, PROPS TO US & THIS SITE because I read a comment today. One haters told the other, that they LIKED popping in because we have some interesting conversations n that we do talk n look at the facts!!! Haaaa so deep down inside they KNOW, we’re not stupid people! ! ; )

                • What is this about the blood atonement thatwas mentioned before?? On NG Brian Carr is claiming this!!

              • I know they do too. An that Bryan Carr does also I am pretty sure he is in here by the things he says on the shows sometimes are things that are in here.

        • By the way Joyce posted on here before as Sunny. So I agree, do not reply to these people, they are worth it.

        • She actually SHOULD be acquitted, because this whole trial is based on flawed investigation, harassment of defendant and public persecution. There are reasons to believe that the defendant WAS FRAMED.

          J’ ACCUSE !

          And the real perpetrators should be prosecuted.

    • I think the judge’s ruling is stupid! They cant have the phone call transcribed in deliberations?

  6. Thank you so glad comments are now working…I was thinking our comments started sounding as fragmented as JM’s cross.

  9. to me she sounds like someone who is uncomfortable with his words, but doesnty want to embarrress him

  11. ahhhhhh……. man i am blushing….

    but i know its what the def needs to do. i just want to hug her

  12. the little guy is objecting left and right… he has gotta be freaking out cause he cannot recross

  13. Her answers today still seem like she is trying to protect TA….again. I don’t get it today.

    • i know………and WHO is she protecting??

      mayb TA, family member/members……someone from the church

      • I feel for Nurmi. This re-direct is tough. I think the jury has to be picking up on that she is still trying to be protective, but I don’t know if this will help her in the long run. I know Nurmi will try to show with experts that she was abused and brainwashed, but something has seemed to change with JA.

  14. THE tootsie thing,…………. this guy was overcompensating for ALOT.

    like his desire for children, boys mayb men… like another brilliant mind said, Jerry S anyone

    • I havent heard the segments of the tape but was told it really hurts Travis and is also Martinez ut paints Travis as a complete degenerate

    • I think Travis is a gross pig & I am getting sick hearing his voice. Martinez was trying to paint Jodi as a whore and Travis as a Virgin with all his Friends Chanting Virgin Travis, but I guess that ain’t going to fly tonight on NG Dr. Drew who said that Travis was trying so hard to be a good Mormon and the Evil Jodie Tempted him.

        • Jane Velez states this is normal she is the worst I will not watch any of them BOYCOTT!!

          • Oliviero,
            I turn them on mute or pass through their jabber.
            I use to couldn’t stand to hear them, now I can’t stand to look at them.
            I really don’t know who is the worst. Drew and Mike Brooks are terrible too.
            Vinnie, UGH!!!
            HLN, UGH!!

            • Yeah, and Joey Jackson too. He’s suppose to be a defense attorney, but if it was for him, Jodi would it have first degree. If he was a real defense attorney, he will fight for the defendant, even if it was against HLN freaking policies. I would love to see Jose Baez more often, but to my knowledge, only Dr. Drew invited him once to his show.

            • Aly it was hard for me to watch on the computer so i i watched TV but now with the boycott of those trashy stations, I listen to some parts on the Computer .I heard that they are going crazy on those programs.

          • We don’t get those programs where I live, but I’ve seen enough of them on YouTube for me to know for sure that I have no desire whatsoever to watch any of them. Seriously, they are the type of obnoxious loudmouths that make the rest of the world think badly of Americans. That Velez woman I’ve seen on Dr Phil, she reminds me of a Michael Jackson impersonator. As for Nancy Disgrace, words fail me. I remember when the Casey Anthony not guilty verdict was announced, it was worth every second to see the egg left on her ugly face.

      • RIGHT. his voice is as obnixious as his pinstripe suit and total “night at the roxbery” cheeseball smirk

      • Right, they were the ones who opened that door first. They went on national tv trying to pretend that Travis was an honest, virginal mormon man led astray the righteous path. Yeah, as if! And there he is, on the sex tape, using the word “rape” like it’s something awesome that satisfies him.

        Ugh. I hope there’s not much more of this. I feel physically ill.

        • me too MB.cant stand listening to him.and Jodi sounds like she’s playing along just to please him and not cut him off.he was a sick person…

        • Exactly. He was this “devout virgin Mormon” who’d supposedly never even masturbated before Jodi (yeah, right LOL), she is being called a “whore”….and yet HE is the one who has to explain to her what a ‘cream pie” is? Where would he have picked up that knowledge? Either from porn or previous experience. that’s where. I’m so glad the tape was replayed with the transcript, I could never quite make out everything he was saying. I’m also glad his eye-rolling sisters got to hear it with their very own ears and to realise that their brother is not the angel they like to pretend he was.

  15. What’s a cream pie. That is so sad to hear Jodie ask that question. It really shows who had the upper hand.

    • “Cream pie” sounds like a term that one who watches porn would know. Thanks to the Internet, I’m familiar with a lot of sexual terms but have never run across that one.

      • I’m a 62 year old woman and I thought I knew a lot about sex, but thanks to Travis Alexander, I now know what a “cream pie” and a “tossed salad” are. As for him shaving his crotch, generally speaking, straight men don’t do that. I’ve only ever known it to be done by porn stars, gay men, and those into kiddie sex. Jodi also testified that he liked her to wax so that she was totally hairless in her genital area. A brazilian is one thing, but a hairless pubis is another thing entirely….kind of kinky if you ask me.

        • Waxing the pubis sounds very painful to me. I am 56 to me a cream pie comes in three flavours, chocolate, banana and coconut. A tossed salad is just that, a salad made of lettuce , cukes, tomatoes and anything else you can toss in there LOL.!!!

        • The porn industry started that. I think it is distinctly sick and perverted myself because it does look make a woman’s genitalia look prepubescent.

          Many men don’t like women to have pubic hair these days, thanks to pornography.

    • Summer I feel so bad for her, He is a horror and a Deviant who obviously is a pedophile. YUK

      • k oliviero….totally feeling the love!!

        im gona ask you if you think that men who overindulge in sex acts, toys, games are trying to cover something up or bc they need the extreme to GET OFF?

        I.E. jERRY S.

        • Simmer definitely was working so you get this my reply late I guess Martinez really must overcompensate. Jodi needs counseling the poor girl. I do not know how she can stand this. Nurmi was great.

    • Summer I know but he had this control Love Bombing Cult I don’t know what she saw in him he also has no Masculinity at all. Her friend said she did show bad Judgement with Men. My Mom is like her in many ways.

      • I AGREE, and im loving and forgiving to a fault………. so i see so much of myself in JA. But thr r RED FLAGS

        • BIG RED FLAGS!! Imagine if she had kids with him. I believe he would sexually abuse them, He is so gross! I know its wrong but I just don’t feel sorry for him when I hear this disgusting abusive tape.

      • Oliviero, TA must have had some kind of charms cuz it seems he had quite a few women falling for him. I think it’s the “bad boy” persona that our culture embraces. Unfortunately, there is still a lot of sexism in our society that puts a woman’s worth in her looks and how well she attracts males while the males’ worth is put in how many women he can acquire and use.

        • I think that his position in his Job but Personally he comes across as a pedophile. How much charm did he have if according to his friends nobody in his Group wanted to have sex with him. Except Chris Hughes. Lisa must be so SHOCKED!!!!!!!!! he is a complete gross pig and boring!

      • I think so. So gross ! but there are people like that in the world just some people want to be naive to that fact.

  18. Why does the one Alexander brother keep starring down the jurors. At least it appears that is the direction he is looking in.

    • i saw that… and Jodi has someone on that jury that is engaging her. and IMO the bro does not like it

    • I think he is scrutinizing the jury’s reaction to the evidence. I think he is just guarding his emotions, but dosent know how it is coming across… unlike Eye Roll |Sister.

      Oh, and the eye roll sister was at it again. I dont get her reaction to the dirty talk. Look down, cry, but dont sit there and act like its all a lie, because, IN YOUR FACE sister… its him,and he really is…THAT VILE.
      I dont expect them to not be angry about how he died, but the reactions do not fit the circumstances, and I wonder if there is some deep seated personality disorder with that one.

      Can you imagine reporting child abuse or rape to that girl? How can she be an officer of the law? I cant imagine what her resolution to marital disputes is. I cant imagine.

  19. I never did have a problem with comments? don’t know if it is because I am on a PC tho an I think a lot use a phone. But when we do reply it does make them seem out of order but it is how the page is. I Reply as I read through posts so they are out of time date order as when we read an REPLY.

    • Yes, but they will not have it transcribed during deliberations. Just the voice recording then.

    • yes,Kira but i think the judge said they wont get it transcribed as evidence when they deliberate.just for today.

    • KIRA yes I heard from a friend I am watching on the computer know that the haters are going crazy.
      Martinez fought not to allow this.

    • Thanks everyone! I heard the judge asking the jury to leave…did they actually go or did they leave and come back?

      • Kira – they left, then returned after the judge could listen and admit it into evidence. It was then played after the Jury returned to the courtroom.

    • Where can I read Exhibit 509 (a portion of Exhibit 406)?
      HLN is the only place I can see the Trial and they have horrible coverage.
      How do I read the verbal sex talk of Travis that was displayed today, March 4th?
      My credentials are of a big grown up girl, age 69, and still married 47 years.

      • Elizabeth,

        You don’t need to read it. I’m a grown man and I have never spoken to anyone that way. I guarantee if your husband had spoken to you that way he’d be your ex-husband of way less than 47 years.

        This was one sick guy.

          • Well, maybe the older generations didn’t talk like that but its a new day and a new age. Dirty talk is not uncommon nowadays. I’ve had a gf or ten that wanted to be talked to that way. Personally I’m not in to it, I’ve always said I’m a do’er, not a talker, and I can’t say I would parrot anything TA said, but I’ve played the part (in my own words) to make the gf happy…

  21. She had to have pent up rage The Psychiatrist said on Court TV that she was abused and the killing looked like sexual abuse ritual abuse that you find in cults. Of course the commentator who hated her says she wasn’t abused. Well seems the Psychiatrist was right.

    • Yes, but she may not have done it, or forced to do some of it, or been brainwashed to do it or just to be there.

      If one think that she was in no way a stalker, and still meek under his control when she went to visit, it is very hard to see her going into a furious rage at all.

  22. Hopefully after the jounal escapade by JM, the defense will be able to get the TA letters into evidence. Did they have the handwriting analyzed. Besides the lying Hughes’ saying they were forged, why were they not allowed into evidence orginally?

  24. I wish everyone would remember on the Travis Alexander side that Jodi put in a PLEA. She did not want to bring all this out in the public she was truly ashamed an did not want to show Travis was evil in a way about things. But the FAMILY of TRAVIS has stated many times they want DEATH an NOTHING LESS an that is why they are there not because of Jodi wanting to drag all this out in the public.

      • I feel that too. Very sad she can’t look outside the box an hear that voice is disgusting instead of luring to her I guess. Some people are just naive. I have a daughter of 31 that is very naive so I know it is possible. My own daughter is living with a BOY I call him that is a ex con an disgusting to me treats women with no respect at all an we are in silence now because I do not condone her behavior with this ex gang banger ex con with 2 children from 2 other woman already he does not take care of an now my own daughter will be having his 3 child in July which only I can see he is truly evil so therefore I am the evil mother. I sit an wait for that call for her to come home now. She see’s nothing that I see an it is frustrating to have a grown adult child that just is NAIVE an not brought up that way.

          • Thank you MB…….I pray every day many times it has been 7 months now. I know in a way how Jodi’s mother must feel. I feel like I have lost my only daughter but I can only pray one day she will not be so naive about men because she will not listen to any reason an has been that way since teenager years too. I truly think Jodi was just naive an believed in something that just was not there for her truly an hoped it would change but it rarely ever does change in people.

    • Well, it’s not up to the victim’s family … it’s ALWAYS up to the prosecutor. The victim’s family can launch their objections to accepting a plea, and the prosecutor *might* take them into consideration … but it always ends up being ONLY the prosecutor who decides what the charges are and whether or not they want to go to trial.

      • Oh ok so the DA decides they want DEATH then an think they can prove it? by a premeditated murder then ? an I am sure then he did put that point across but the Family also states it in many blogs around how they truly feel an it is DEATH period. An I could understand that if it was a brother that truly was a innocent truly. I guess I am not the average human being as I do not condone family being in the wrong an stand behind them when I see wrong doing. Yes I love my family but No I would never stand behind them if they were in the wrong. WE know murder is WRONG. She admitted that everyone wants to know HOW AN WHY? But murder in self defense is not wrong to me that is the difference. But to some people murder is wrong at any time oh it is so confusing.

        • Right, Rhonda. The DA decides on which charge to pursue. In this case, it happens to agree with the family’s desires.

          I also have a difficult time with families who support abusers. But it happens very commonly. I struggled with that when my abuser was arrested and his family would do NOTHING to help me while he continued to inflict abuse upon me in other forms (cutting off finances and utilities) after the arrest. They didn’t care and would have let me die of starvation and dehydration. They had to have known what their son/brother really was like, but they stood behind him anyway.

  25. I knew it – he wanted a threesome!! I hope they bring this girl to the stand to testify about it too!

    • I know I feel there is some sexual thing going on there with Dustin Ashley an Travis? from the comment she left on his my space page was very odd. But I do not know if that is meaning from her ? or her husband at the time Dustin? He had a very odd wish list from that site I went too some people go both ways an is that possible in this case? She said Dustin was acting strange after the death of Travis?

      Ashley Reed

      “rear naked choke hold”…? i thought mormons didn’t practice beastiality 🙂

      5 years ago

      • Rhonda, the “Rear naked choke hold”… I wouldn’t have known what it was before last week. I found out while my Boyfriend was watching the UFC fights. I pointed it out and made fun of it as it seemed strange that a *tough guy* wrestling hold having a name like that.

        • That is even more disturbing to me then as I never seen a wrestler naked on tv before. But then I always have felt men that like to roll around with men were kinda of strange anyways. No offense I never cared for that sport even in HS it grossed me out.

      • She called the police anonymously stating Dustin had something to do with or knew something about Travis’ murder.
        They tracked the phone to her, interviewed her. Said she and Travis were close friends “nothing else” had known for 3 years.Kept referring to her husband Dustin as her ex, were divorcing, having financial problems causing it.
        Hadn’t seen TA for 3 weeks, a visit at his weekly Ultimate Fighting Champion party (spilled blood viewing orgy–my words.)
        Never mentioned that she was the one who called. Detective did not tell her he knew (????), and left. Voila.
        Over and out.
        No further questions were ever asked of her or her husband.

  27. HELP – I cannot watch the trial today and have been reading comments… could someone please clue me in on what’s happening? Is the judge allowing the letters or something? Thanks!

    • No, I brought up the letters to answer a question and then they were asked about again. I think they were left out via a closed session so I can’t say for sure why (except that Hughes lied about them).

      By the way, I like your comments and I hope you keep posting!

      • Thank you for replying and the comment was very nice! 😀 I must say I enjoy your posts, as well along with the rest of the intelligent conversation that one can actually have on this site. Kudos to all, here.

  28. OMG!!! That was a great comment! That is the person who TA wanted to have a 3some with! The Jury gets to wait and sit on that for ten minutes. I hope that person comes forward and says yes, I did have sex with TA

    • I feel there are numerous girls out there that has had sexual relations with Travis Alexander…and would never admit it….and even the ones who said they didn’t…I do NOT believe them not even for a nanosecond…TA appears to have way too much sex appeal and he is a charmer with his good looks and a public speaker…nice job…huge house…appears to have money…just the right combination to literally “charm the pants off many girls”…I believe there is a whole lot more about TA than we will ever hear about in this trial…and for the ones who are keeping mum about their secret involvements with him…I hope their punishment will come in due time…

  30. Does anyone know if Jodi has testified about the vicious text msgs Travis sent her saying she betrayed him? wondering if she said what he felt betrayed about and if this was a reason for him to attack her physically?

    • @TR would that text on his face book,where i guess Jodi was trying to stay away from him and it seem like he was mad when he said to Jodi “that all he was a dildo with a beating heart to her” how comes the Prosecutor didn’t bring that to also prove that TA was a dog and all he thinks about was sex so every thing Jodi did that didn’t include him was a betrayal.like when she wanted to move on and date someone else and TA wouldn’t let her.

      • Thanks for the reply. I was thinking his perception of betrayal was possibly a bit more sinister, like maybe she was going to expose him to the Mormon Church. I can’t help but think his viciousness via text, was a precurser to increased anger and physically attacking her. I suspect he was angry over much more than her dropping his camera.

  34. Yes, Kermit was Nurminzed again showing that TA read her journals. BAM. Oh, and Mormons are to write them with the understanding they will share……

  35. Jodi is right about Mormons keeping journals. My daughter goes to a Mormon activity group with a neighbor and they have her keeping a journal. She is 9 yrs old!

  36. Hello Everyone.

    This is my first post on your site. Very glad to see open minded and civil debate about a very emotional topic. Thought I would start with just a few of my thoughts on this trial so far…

    (To be clear I don’t think she is innocent or guilty, as the trial is still going on and there are a lot of questions to be answered. With that said I would say right now she has not been proven guilty of premeditated murder, clearly. I also don’t see any new “evidence” coming up, that has not been discussed, that would lead me to believe they will have a convincing amount of proof of guilt)

    To start…Although none of us KNOW that she is guilty or innocent, we have to use the information we are given to make the best choice, based on what the law says is proof, of guilt or innocence. We are not always given that information, and when we are we have to read between the lines if it didn’t come from a source that is clearly unbiased. For example the talking heads on HLN are clearly not interested in unbiased and informed TV. Its entertainment and they are doing their jobs to keep the banter going. Likewise we do not hear everything that is happening in court. Are the jurors happy? sad? Frustrated? Bored? Engaged? Did the state or the defense get certain topics thrown out, so they could not be brought up at trial (for example the shoe print)? We do not get to listen to side bars, as this is information that may not be “cleared” for jurors/public to hear about, so our information is still limited. We do get one thing…we get to hear and see everything that the jury hears and sees.

    I do not feel that, if I was a juror to this point, the state has shown anything CLOSE to legal proof. The defense is not tasked with proving someone is nice, kind, pure, wholesome or INOCENT. The only task is that of the state to show PROOF that the charged crime is in fact what the defended did.

    Did JA cause the death of TA? Yes. That is not what they have charged her with.
    Did JA try to cover up the death or her involvement of the death of TA? Yes. That is not what they have charged her with.
    Did JA Lie? Yes. That is not what they have charged her with.
    Did JA have other options that could have prevented the death of TA? Yes. That is not what they have charged her with.
    Could JA have committed premeditated murder? Yes. “Could have” is not proof. I could have done it too…but there is no proof.

    They did charge her with premeditated murder in the 1st degree. Did she do that? I don’t think so. All of the other info is just cannon fader to the real issue. Did she plan then act out a plan to kill TA? I see no proof of this. I have seen things that would lead me to think it is possible, but that’s not proof. I have also seen things that would make it possible that she didn’t even kill him…but the proof doesn’t lead to that conclusion either.

    When people question the defense not standing up for JA at certain times, I think “why should they, the line of questioning has NOTHING to do with the 1 fact that needs to be shown..PRE-meditated murder” why waste the time and energy on defending something you are not even accused of in this court?

    The only thing I do think the defense needs to do now…build defense NOW for the next trial, if she is found guilty. Remember ALL death penalty cases in AZ are automatically appealed and re-trialed.

    Good-looking people, sex, religion, youth, and murder are all very emotional things… I believe the only strategy the state had was to use emotion to fuel a guilty plea. The problem is JA and her defense has kept this very clean and emotion free, as it should be. They are calm. Collected. And have a plausible answer for every possible “proof” the state could use.

    I guarantee that JA has not been 100% honest in her accounts of everything. I would lie too if it meant I died if found guilty. In the end it doesn’t matter! They need to prove she is guilty of the crime they chose to charge her with. This is why MANY defendants never take the stand, what they say doesnt matter, the facts that the state can prove are what matters. In this case it was very smart for her to take the stand, as any things that could be “proof” from the state are easily explained away.

    At this point I would say she is found guilty of a “lesser crime”. What do you all think?

    What “proofs” do you think are sticking points for the jurors? I would say the cell phone being off. The gun from the grand parents. The gas cans..MAYBE.. But thats it. I dont see anything else a juror could use as “proof” that she premedited anything. And, for me none of these things are proof anyway.

    • welcome SIRLIPS and great post.

      u will find unbias and brilliant minds here, and I, We, welcome another

    • I think you are on target. I joined this conversation because the HLN folks provide nothing objective. sounds like more and more folks are realizing that.

    • Love your ‘That is not what they have charged her with.’

      I wish those TV clowns would hear you out, because those crimes are what they charge her with, and more, every day.
      The content of their ‘entertainment’, though, is to brainwash viewers into prejudice and hate. They think it is acceptable because she is a poor white woman.

      For my part, I have extremely serious doubt that she is guilty, i.e. I believe Jodi innocent , and hopefully not a martyr.

    • I would agree that it’s possible for a lessor crime, but right now only thing on the table is M1, so unless the judge allows lessors before the jury deliberates, it’s all or nothing at this point.

      • @ TB, agree. Nurmi is doing a great job driving home what an ass TA was to her. I can’t imagine being told “there’s been many times you’ve been miserable & I’ve liked raped you”

  39. note to self:if you believe in the Law of Attraction(which i do) ALWAYS write EVERYTHING explicitly in your journal,you know…..just in case!

  41. If Martinez objects again, I am going to throw up!

    There have been SO many of them, they can’t even get through a day without that or a sidebar.

  42. I’m smurking like pickleface now too knowing Kermit can’t stand that JA can actually talk about the journal and TA reading them. Kermit Nurminized again…TKO….no standing count for Kemit.

  43. what????????????Kermit’s accusing Nurmi for ”forging” Jodi’s journal entry?????did I hear correclty????someone plz help!

  44. Here is what I don’t understand. The pros and defense have had years to know this journal is evidence. WHY all the damn sidebars!!

    • Because Kermit can’t stand the totality of the journal versus just pieces being heard.

    • Mostly, it’s for the record of the trial. If the case is appealed (and either side can file an appeal if they lose), then, the appellate judges base their decisions on the record and written briefs filed by each side (they may also have brief oral arguments before the judges). The appellate court will have a transcript of this trial in its entirety along with the briefs. On appeal, the attorneys can only argue in their briefs what has been admitted into evidence during the trial. If something was not objected to during the trial, then the side who didn’t object, but had the right to, may have (and usually has) waived their right to argue that issue on appeal and include it in their points of argument in their brief. I hope that makes sense as I wrote it rather quickly.

  45. someone!! please!!! I’m dying here!!! Was the threesome person Ashely reed Thompson to someone else???

    • Me too ! most photos Jodi looks genuinely happy smiling an he is mostly trying to look goofy or looking like he is GQ stud. That is why I disagree with people saying in the SHOWER he looks scared or terrified if they would go back an look he does that STERN look or gaze a LOT !

    • soooooo into himself!!trying to make funny faces to draw attention to himself coz he knew Jodi’s beauty would overshadow him.

    • Geeeeze I love that someone else pointed out his stupid pics! When this trial first started my teen daughter saw the photos and commented that the guy (TA) looked like a thug. When you put these pics together – psycho does seem more appropriate!

    • I always think he looks very angry and seething. And eye roller and Lurch’s daughter make faces and cry, then look to see if the jury is looking at them. Trying to sway the jury in the only way they, but as a law enforcement officer, eye roller should know better. JMO.

      • Lurch’s daughter hahahahaah you must be referring to Tanisha, the one with the sunken in face.She looks anorexic to me. Maybe her brother’s death has caused her to be unable to eat well.

    • He is voir diring the evidence but crossing over into cross exam which is why nurmi objected. Martinez is such an ass.

      • oh thanks JC. I don’t even know what voir diring is…have to look that one up!

  51. and,……… i swear, i would give my right arm to have a choke collar on short man syndrome,,,,,

    object………..BAM, pull his 3 year old asss back

  52. OKay we better go back to the every time the prosecutor object drinking game,,how many times are they going to approach the bench?..That prosecutor is a pain in the ass,Ryan Smith on HLN is a second information messenger..i can’t stand him,every time the defense poke a hole in the prosecutor case he find some thing to say,but nothing negative on the prosecutor side.WTF

    • i love u newYORK…….

      i have had like 3-4 redbull vodkas,…….. and im starting to think i have a problem

  53. Here he goes again…RIGHT?, RIGHT?, RIGHT?

    I am really turned off by this bullying!

  54. Completely off subject, but looking at their heights at sidebar, they could have used Kermit as the stand in for JA’s short sister….lol

  55. did anybody miss Martinez jumping up his ass and yelping,giving himself a heart attack???well,there you have him!!lol,what is he trying to prove?i got lost!NO,she didnt highlight that segments,does this mean the exhibit is unadmissable??

    • To him it does. LOL He wouldn’t want the jury to know how strongly she felt about the law of attraction.

  56. Kermit will keep objecting until court is done today to regroup. The pitbull has chomped the ankle biter today and he can’t take anymore.

  57. Martinez is such a jerk! What was his flipping point of that? Attacking Jodi because the defense wants to put an item in evidence! He is like a spoiled brat who isnt getting his way so he is going to throw a fit! (like he threw the camera on the floor!)

    • Is that really what he THREW on the floor??

      I couldn’t make out what it was at the time.

      Really?

      • In the first days of the trial he was showing Travis’ camera in the courtroom and he threw it to the ground in a “demonstration”. The defense rightly got PO’d because he could have damaged trial evidence.

        • Thanks Frannie 🙂

          We don’t get HLN etc so I missed some of the trial and just saw a clip after he had dropped or thrown something.

          How does he get away with behavior like that???

          That is outrageous! No one is allowed to damage evidence in a trial!

  58. I better TA the man whore did ripped out a lot of pages from her journal,no wonder the poker face prosecutor can’t find anything that doesn’t speak negative of TA..again another objection?.WTF

    • I can’t remember what day it was but I seem to remember her saying when at someone’s house she went to get her bag because she knew her journal was in there an did not want anybody snooping in it? I can’t remember if that is how it was said or not but a argument happened that day between her an Travis an the friends say they did not hear one at all ?

  59. This is interesting. But, why didn’t she remove the pages about this negativity?

    Wonder what the words are that Martinez is objecting to?

    • The words I wish I did!!! Changes entirely what Martinez attempted to show when he put up the little snippet during cross- that travis was her be all end all.

  62. The judge looks really frustrated when she finally had to admit the exhibit. Anybody else agree?

    • I thought so..I suspect she is frustrated with Kermit…I could be wrong though.

  63. Good explanation about Travis not making her feel that way. From this statement, I would say that at some time, Jodi went through some counseling.

    • Yeah–really bad counselling!

      This “law of attraction” crap, along with “attracting negative energies” toward yourself, and being fully responsible for everything you feel, even if someone HAS hurt your feelings, as if you were an island one second, and then responsible for what you “put out there” in the world the next second–these pseudo-spiritual ideas are actually really handy tools for abusers. Twist them one way or another in a relationship, and the partner–who is trying hard to be good, to live by these shoddy spiritual ideas–is silenced. The victim begins to accept that the “sickness” originates in herself.

      That was sad. But, it frustrates me to no end that she’s still, apparently, trying to live by these twisted “principles.”

      • I think some of the law of attraction sounds good. If focusing on the good traits in your spouse is part of the law of attraction, then I do that. And I perceive our relationship to be good.

      • Pique,the sad thing is that the Law of ttraction along with some other ´´principles´´ bacame a commercial product through silly and simplistic books like The Secret which took basic Buddhistic ideas and twist them so that people supposedly understood them better.I practice Reiki,meditation and generally am all for lots of spiritual practices(since i dont consider myself a denominational cristian in any way) BUT if one doesnt study,research all perspectives with an open mind,have critical thinking and critisize a lot of the things that are put out there for mass consumption they can get trapped in this false simplistic kind of thinking and acting.

        • Yes, Maria! It’s a product. A processed product, like white flour. Something essential and nutritious has been removed, and while it tastes good, and keeps well, you can’t live on the stuff.

          I do understand why Western people turn to Eastern philosophies or new religions. They do it for a fresh perspective on reality, and to learn alternative ways to both appreciate and cope with life and its stressors. But when it’s turned into pre-digested pap, and is used by a manipulator, it can actually become psychologically dangerous. It can become part of an abuser’s toolkit.

          It upsets me that Jodi still seems to be trapped in these silly, half-formed ideas.

          • Yes, manipulative tools. That they are trained to use perhaps as “motivators” for scam pyramid schemes,
            besides crushing poor Jodi’s with their slutting addictions.

          • Yes and people died in AZ at the sweatlodge because they bought into the product and James Ray

      • Never heard of it. Thank you guys for enlightening me.
        Was wondering if it was related in any way to gravity.

        • Heh! It does sound like that, doesn’t it? “Energy” and “molecular”–as if you might find it in a science textbook.

      • The laws of attraction are very basic principles that people over complicate and over think. They are simple guidelines… positive attracts positive, negative attracts negative.

      • CULT TACTICS The No Feel Rule is very much part of Cults Incest Child Abuse, Group Thought.
        Don’t dare go against the Group they will attack you. WE see this with all Travis Friends they still are trying to blame Jodi for The Sex how dare she tell. They are all “Good” Virgins The Don’t Tell Rule!

  64. Wow, she actually wrote that he made her sick? (Sorry, still at work and can’t watch live.) Well, that totally blows Kermit out of the water, doesn’t it?

    • Is that how one feels when abused? I know I did. I’m so glad I got help and got out. I’m also baffled that any woman who was abused could listen to this and think she wasn’t.

      • Yep, that’s how I felt at times too. And that’s why I relate to Jodi. I have the same issue as you with women who say they were abused, but listen to Jodi and don’t see that she was abused. I’ve seen some say that they do relate somewhat, but they never would have killed their abuser, or would never have killed their abuser using such “overkill”, and if they did, they certainly wouldn’t have lied about it. Somehow, the media brainwashed people (or should I say sheeple) into believing Jodi is a narcissist/sociopath long before anyone ever heard a word of her testimony and they can no longer relate any other way. Travesty.

  65. That journal entry brought me to tears. I wish to hug Jodi and tell her that I understand her pain. I too have felt worthless and useless in life. She is such a strong and beautiful person, and has so much self awareness. It is sad that she didn’t see how much better she deserved in her life.

    • Yea it shook me too. If people cannot see through all the evidence shown, that she was in an abusive relationship, than there hopeless and refuse to think.

    • me too,Trixels.just when I thought today I wouldnt cry(lol) having her read that part brought me to tears.I even tried to write down her beautiful quote(the one about the darkness,does anybody remember the exact wording?)
      omg…she considered suicide back then.I wish she had more people in her life to help her while she was going through all that,I know,like you Trixels I’ve felt useless and that i was worth nothing(due to someone that is…)but thank god i had the love and support of my family and friends.Poor Jodi had noone,it seems.i wish she has found some peace of mind these past few years although in a jail environment and with this trial going on i highly doubt it.

      • Sad. She only had those good friends from ppl group love-bombing her into depression.

  66. Well folks, I personally say it’s been a great day for Jodie and Nurmi. And shows just how sneaky JM was with the journals and gosh knows what else!

    • I know! He brought them in, so now i wonder if that tactic during cross was worth it to him???

    • Yes,, and even though so sneaky, look how hard Nurmi had to fight to get the rest admitted into evidence. Crazy.

    • Oh yeah, Kermit is a weasel…all he cares about is a conviction and not true justice..i don’t understand why that isn’t illegal?? This justice system is a crock of shit.

      I only saw a bit, but I thought Jodi did great! and Nurminator too!!

        • Hmm, his tactics are much like the prosecutor in the Barbara Sheehan case. She shot her husband (a retired cop) 11 times and claimed self-defense. In fact, it seems he read up on what that DA did and copied:

          “For the next two days Barbara endured every form of duplicity and innuendo as the ADA attempted to undermine her testimony.

          At one point Pomodore ordered Barbara to pick up the .38 revolver used in the shooting and hold it as she had as she’d walked down the hallway that morning; then again to hold it and show the jury what position she was in when she shot her husband. Barbara was hysterical, begging the judge not to force her to hold the hated gun, finally saying, “I feel like I’m going to be physically sick.” “Did you feel physically sick on the morning you used this gun to shoot and kill your husband?” Pomodore retorted.”

          http://purpleberets.org/barbarasheehan_trial.html

    • Yes!Great day!!Go Nurminator!!!!
      I’m still worried about Jodi though.her state of mind.She seemed so detached today,as if her mind was wondering and was answering kinda robotically.I pray she finds the strenght to carry on with this ordeal

  69. OMG,…. i dont know if its the barking of a winey little dog, red bull, vodka or all the above…..but im a gonna need some silence

  70. Defense is masterfully bringing in evidence to counter socipoathic picture including indirectly that she is CURRENTLY emotionally broken down. Counter acts what their rebuttal witness is going to say the shrink that is!!

  71. If they allowed that sex tape in the trial why is he fighting to stop the journal..is he saying Jodi did it..If he is implying that she did then why didn’t she ripped the whole MF up?..TA is guilty of every thing Jodi said.Sorry but i do not like TA his behavior got him where he is and that save some other girl from his demeaning and dirty man whore attitude.To hell with the Mormons they are all devils in sheep clothing.TA is a perfect example of what Mormons are all about.

  72. Pardon my forgetfulness, so it was Martinez that introduced the journals into the trial and not Nurmi? O gosh, so he picked through it and used only portions that would suit his crappy case? I cannot believe what a sneak and shyster this POS Martinez is. We already knew he was sneaky, when he changed the order of injuries 5 days before jury selection began, not giving up Lisa’s contact info to the defense and a host of other things.

  73. god that’s over!!! I was watching it from ustream n was getting so fed up with the hater comments! !!My GOD!!! They even suggested to write to the association to request Normi to be disbarred!!

    I was so excited about the tape. It was a good idea what Nurmi did, by breaking it down n asking Jodi questions. Haters aware Nurmi edited the tape n words!! N they’re so mad that the judge let it in!!

    Im also GLAD he cleared it up that TA, DID in fact read her journal and the whole LOA beilif.

    It was a good day, I think. ?.

    • Does kermit also prosecute things other than death penalty cases? i am very new to court stuff…

      Nurminator actually defends people against sex abuse claims…and in my prior incarnation (right before this trial, lol) I might have thought that was terrible..HOWEVER

      if Kermit also handles sex crime cases like he handles this one….then i wonder how many innocent people have been convicted of sex crimes…

      I applaud the Nurminator for taking on his arch nemesis…the Kermit!!!

      • Yes@BeeCee he does other case,i didn’t know he exist until now so like few days ago they were showing some case on TV and he was the prosecutor,well it was a murder case as well but they didn’t have the body of the person that was killed..any way he got the max for the person without parole.I was wondering how smart that he has a death case going on and out of the blues they are showing a case he tried.But there is a woman on death row that he put there.Any way the case that i saw on TV was a guy and he wasn’t this demeaning or aggressive as he is now treating Jodi..I think he is trying to get his second death case perhaps with the idea in mind that there will be a TV movie about it in the works or he is looking for his star on the walk of fame for sending some one to death row.

    • And for all of those hateful people out there making hater comments out there ….if it was their loved one on trial, their sister, their aunt, their cousin, or whomever on trial…I wonder if they would have posted so many hateful comments…I would hope and pray that they would want everyone to listen to the whole story before crucifying their loved one…and Jodi deserves the same by a fair trial…

      • Truthseeker I think the hate mongers are a sad commentary on the Culture Of Hate, They should be taken off the air.

    • Oh, I’m sure the haters WISH Nurmi had edited the words. Nope, they were verbatim what came out of Travis’ mouth; just cut so that Nurmi could address each and every one of them.

      • I totally totally agree with you MB..

        i can’t believe he gets voted in by the public…

      • MB,

        Nurmi strategy to put travis words on a screen was brilliant imo! First of all, I couldn’t hear much of the time because travis voice sounded garbled. So seeing the words was so powerful. Secondly, it illustrates how much it was all about travis and who really had the fantasies. martinez really tried to twist that up into making Jodi look bad. Do you think it was a good day for Jodi?

        • I look forward to seeing the video. What little I saw, the finger, the journal at the end, I felt it was a good day for Jodi.

        • I agree JC. When I first heard the tape, I couldn’t understand everything either so by putting the words up was brilliant. I guess thats why the haters are so outraged. Because it loud n clear. TA was not a saint n I blv far from being the Mormon Virgin Mary!!! They are now accusing Jodi, it is HER fault for HIS words because he was saying everything SHE wanted to hear.

          • OH they do not believe in the VIrgin Mary in that church they believe GOD himself which is another name even was a regular man as we are an went in an had SEX with Mary they produced Jesus. An Jesus also had 3 wives an they had many children so there is a blood line of Jesus on Earth still today. Which no offense to Mormons on here I just do not believe none of that Bible an added stuff. I do believe in the real Bible tho. To each his own.

        • Travistown is insisting that TA said “ravaged,” not “raped.” Sure sounded like “raped” to me!

          They’re also screaming that Travis HAD to be a virgin because no previous sexual partners have come forward. I bet that he hired prostitutes. He was the definition of a “Madonna/whore complex.”

          • You know that one girl he had an she walked in on them he said he picked her up in Phoenix an would not be seeing her again?? I can’t remember what day that was now but I remember her saying that. She ran out an he followed her to calm her down. I know how everyone feels tho it does seem like the MAJORITY if you go look at other websites about Travis are really into believing that Travis was a SAINT an Jodi was the enticing phys-co whore an it really pisses me off.

      • How exactly has the prosecution shat on the Constitution? What is underhanded and sneaky, exactly? And do you think the jury forgot Jodi’s responses to what Travis said in the taped phone calls? The jury had already heard those words, the questions that Nurmi asked illuminated nothing new, certainly nothing that would give evidence to her claim of self-defense.

        Please give me details regarding the mockery of the prosecution. If he has done anything wrong, are you thinking that her lawyer won’t take issue with it?

        • We well, “I” don’t think or blv the jury forgot about Jodis response to any of what TA said, at all. I dont even think that was the purpose for Nurmi putting the words up to the tape. I blv the purpose for the “brilliant” act of putting the words up was to go over each n every statement TA made on that tape. Also, so that the jury can be clear, so that they can SEE with there own eyes, word for word that cane out of that pigs mouth, (oops i mean TA). Which by the way I think its fair enough. The jury SHOULD know every word that was said in that recording. Words that csne out if TA mouth, noone made TA say these things, this is exactly the way TA saw n liked his sex.

        • Actually Jodi’s answers were what SHOCKED me the most. I would have hung up on the first utterance from this obscene caller, friend, lover or unknown.
          I tuned in to the trial that day of her testimony and heard that tape. And Jodi answering.
          Like a groveling sex slave. How did she get there?

          • Viri… idk some say that TA could’ve molded her into this… Idk I really dont know but if Jodi liked it n she was down (except for the pedo thing n the young girl thing) I didnt see anything much wrong with it. We’re all different n we all like different things in sex. She has every right to like n do whatever it is that she was into. What gets to me the most IS people not accepting that TA was not a saint. That TA most likely was NOT a virgin, n that he was full of shit by making it look like JODI was the one after HIM. And even after they hear his voice on this tape, they STILL accuse Jodi for it!!! Jodi never denied her sexuallity, she never denied how many partners she had anal with, she never denied that she didnt like it. Matter of fact, I think shes STILL finding excuses for the bastard. Explain his “RAPE” comment away. There’s so many chances that Jodi could’ve made TA look even worse n she hasn’t, why??? IDK either….

            • Yes, you’re right. I’m convinced that he (with others from his group) molded her into it.
              No one is born without self-respect.
              The whole tape is a one-way gratification trip for Travis. NOT A SINGLE NICE WORD FOR HER.
              She flatters him for being so creative when he slurs out the most vile sadistic fantasy.
              It is all for Travis, by Travis, anything you say Travis, yes master, I love it, yes master, you’re so great.
              And then she tries to remind him of herself: “do you remember,…., you made me feel like a goddess?
              do you?” Tired growl, then another “I want to stick it to you etc”
              JODI DOES NOT EXISTS.

              • Whoa, “most vile sadistic fantasy”? I agree that some of the things he said put him in the ‘creeper’ category ie the 12-year old comment, and he comes across as a bit of an egomaniac, but from the way Jodi responded I doubt she was coerced or ‘molded’ to accept these things. Was this really all that vile? Not if it was something Jodi was enjoying. If a woman is really not interested in dirty sex talk she’s not going to use words like “p*ssy” and give little kitten growls and purrs here and there.

                I believe the point is made that Travis wasn’t the holy little virgin boy he was pretending to be and I understand the hatred many people here have for him but I have to be honest, the sex talk for the most part wasn’t really that bad and I DO believe Jodi gave just as much as she got in ‘that’ department. While she was probably doing it more out of love and he was more about just getting off, it seemed to be a pretty even give and take.

      • Martinez like many Prosecutors Only care about winning even if they kill innocent person .
        He is a very creepy person, All he says is I object every 5 seconds Nurmi is a better attorney.

  74. Is Nurmi done with the re-cross of Jodi or is there more to come? I didn’t catch the end

  75. I was watching that Dateline thing and something caught my attention. This friend of TA’s was talking about TA and how if he’d see a pretty girl he’d swing into this mode and all his friends would say, and I quote “The game is on”.

    Now, to all the guys on this board – you know what that means don’t you?

    That has nothing to do with Family Home evenings and cultural activities, and dinner and hand holding. That game has nothing to do with virginal choir boys (oops may be in TA’s case it does!).

    • Yes Al, and did you notice most of them work for prepaid legal. This makes me question Ryan Burns testimony because they could put the pressure on him, testify the way to make JA look bad or else you’re out of a job? If you look at Chris Hughes, the day he testified, it looked like he wanted to come out of his chair and strangle Nurmi and JA and anyone else who stood up for her.

    • Joyce. it means you can’t believe shit about what Travis’ friends say about him.. That is what that means.

    • And you know, Joyce, Jodi doesn’t have to “prove” anything. It is the prosecution that has to prove it was murder one.

      I think you need to go back to the “Travistown” boards. This isn’t the place for you.

    • Yes Al, and in that same Dateline episode his friend also said TA saw dating like a sport, or he acted like dating was a sport. Something like that, but I thought that was pretty cruel. Well, not respectful at all for someone that was supposedly dating with the goal to find the marriage type. With that mentality, did TA really think he’d find someone that’d want to marry HIM?!

  76. All JM cares about is a conviction at any cost. I had questioned why Nurmi had not introduced or objected to these journals during cross but he was just waiting to prove that the pages that were read to the jury were only partial entries and that with re direct the real truth would come out. Brilliant move ! Check Mate !

    • troll alert

      joyce you are not looking for intelligent conversation, you are just trying to get some comments in because you are pro prosecution.

      • Agree with you @BeeCee,yeah if joyce isn’t pro Jodi she shouldn’t even come over here to post,she/he what ever it is should go to TA board and support JM.

        • They sneak past by posting a question so I give them the benefit of the doubt. I wont be doing that anymore with the one-liner first timers.

            • Thanks BeeCee 🙂 It’s worth it for the sake of sane discussion!

              • Yeah JC.

                I don’t actually mind differing opinions, I just hate it when it *seems* like people just come on to make statements without wanting a real dialog…or without looking at these pages to see what is going on first..

                It’s almost like some people just read something and have to play “devils’ advocate” just because it makes them feel good.

                We could do the same on the pros pros sites…but I know I don’t. It isn’t worth it.

                And BY GOD, if someone TELLS ME how to think, or that i need to quit talking about conspiracies…i turn into Kali….

                hehe

                • I think this trial does cause emotions to stir. I know it does it me.

                • Martinez is a public nuisance.

                  For Travis dating was a ‘Hunting sport’ a hunter hunts ‘game’.
                  ‘Game On’ is going in for the kill,

                  Joseph Smith founder of the Cult of LDS, used his so called ‘religious authority’ to get laid, like many cult leaders before & since. He eventually had 28 wives. Threatened eternal damnation if they didn’t marry him, (hey it worked). He was as ego-maniacal, placing himself at equal footing with god & Jesus. He also BELIEVED that native Americans were a lost tribe from Israel, black people having dark skin because they’ve sinned against god, the Garden of Eden located in Missouri, & in magic underwear.

                • YES! i LOVE that garden of eden thing. ive read that.
                  joe smith actually ‘learned’ all this from traveling snake oil salesmen in upstate NY. they basically ended up running him out of town.

                  i researched when romney was running. WILD, WIERD STUFF, imo.

                • I don’t go near the pro-pros either. It seems like any day the defense has a good day, they come here to start shit; and IMO it proves that they know they are wrong, they just don’t want to admit it.

                  You’re right – they do NOT want a real conversation about this case. They want to ask questions as if clarifying comments weren’t already posted, twist words, accuse us of saying things we never said, and make ridiculous demands like telling us what conclusions we can or cannot come up with; or saying how we should be out changing minds knowing full well those people can’t be reasoned with (and our comments would get deleted anyway).

                  And if we refute their hairbrained opinions with some basic common sense; they get all butthurt and whine about how “mean” we are. As if!

                • If you read what you wrote again it sounds like you are explaining Martinez and his antics.

          • Darnit, you deleted the comment before I was able to post, “Joyce, tell us how you REALLY feel!”

    • What do YOU think? You obviously believe the horse manure of premeditation and she was a crazy stalker who killed the sweet virgin Travis because of jealousy.

      This despite NOTHING having been proven as to premeditation and motive.

    • True!! And did you notice, Martinez had a big problem with that. It looked like to me, like he did NOT want to let this in. He was pretty upset when he started asking Jodi questions about it being highlighted n who wrote what and who she was referring to at the END of one page. Like he wanted the jury to blv it was BS, not to blv Jodi.

      THEN…. lol. check this out on the trial video (I loved this part), Mrs Wlimott literally pushing Nurmi to object, thats when they stand up to approach! !!! Martinez coulnt or didnt have his chance at Jodi!! Thank god, shes there… iv seen her pushing Nurmi to approach.

  77. I do understand exactly what she is reading because i have had days like that,and it isn’t her imagination at all,we always blame ourself for even what other did so Ryan Smith need to shut his bloody yap..why didn’t the TV comes with a zap button i would zap his ass to where ever that devil advocate TA is so he can give him a play by play of the trial..I wonder what kind of law did they study,i am no freaking lawyer..but isn’t the law said not guilty until proven?..what is the use if you already decide the person on trial is guilty even before the damn verdict.I never seen before where people on TV so eager to see some one off to death row.

    • Blood sport, NYC. They are no better than the romans cheering while lion ripped apart christens.

  78. I think JM was trying to show they JA never had any problems with Travis.he picked and chose which portion he wanted to use against her. I believe by her being allowed to read the entry in total, it show she was everything but happy. He was mentally abusing her and she knew but loved him and did not know how to get out. So sad for this young lady, this man took pleasure in making her want him and then pushed her away.

  79. Defense masterfully put medic type deputy in view but he was moved after lunch break. Wonder if prosecution insisted on this? The jury watches for these things!!

    • If the jury watches things I sure hope they didn’t miss Kermit’s not so masterful pick and choose on the journals 🙂

      and it bit him on is tiny frog ass.

      • yea me too. He made himself look stupid. she tears out a page less than a year before because travis reads it and the L.O.A. so its reasonable that she wouldnt write anything bad…

  80. what jodi read from her journal

    Well it’s a good thing that nobody else reads this because I write right now that I love Travis Victor Alexander so completely that I don’t know any other way to be. I wish I did because at times my heart is sick and saddened over all that has come to pass, I don’t understand it and at times still have a hard time believing it. He makes me sick and he makes me happy. He makes me sad and miserable. And he makes me feel uplifted and beautiful. All in all I shouldn’t be wording it as though he makes me feel those things. it all originates from within, all of my darkness is a result of my own creation, it is the fruit of my thoughts planted continually and with too much repetition

  81. Being 5’10” and 205lbs I had my wife attempt to drag me on slick wood floors and she didn’t move me an inch. My son 5’8″ 240lbs (Tailback) easily moved me about. I continue my experiment for I was blessed with 6 sisters with similar height and weight as Jodi. Based on my experience as a Firefighter in Texas, and having dragged a man 5’10” 210lbs out of a burning house, adrenaline pumping yet still a tough task, I find it very hard to believe that Jodi Arias was able to drag a Wrestler/Kickboxer/UFC aficionado, with 16-1/2″ Biceps, not to mention overpower him in a life or death struggle. Truth defends itself !

    • I was able to pull my husband out of the bathtub and pull him out of the room and do CPR when he had a heart attack. I was younger then and less feeble than I am now. I pulled him maybe 6 feet on the floor and that was the easy part. Getting him up and over the tub side was very hard, but once I was able to get behind him and my arms under his arms I was able to use one foot to help push against the tub. You can do amazing things if you have fear and adrenalin running through your veins. We can’t let things like this muddy the waters, I think thats what the kermit wants. We need to focus on his abuse. She should have ditched him when he started showing his true colors. Did Jodi ever talk with her Bishop and share with him what was going on? Did she tell friends and are they keeping quiet about what she told them? It would not surprise me

  84. Just wanted to apologize for asking questions and making statements that aren’t a cohesive part of your echo chamber. I’ve only posted as Joyce, never as someone named Sunny.

    I find trials facinating and haven’t followed one in a long time since this one. What happens to Jodi Arias really has no impact on my life, but I do know I don’t want to see her put to death.

    The reactions to the facts presented in court from you commentors is very interesting to me as well, and I’m sorry if I didn’t word my posts benignly enough. I’m not a Jodi ‘hater’, I’m just amazed at her affect on you guys who seem to love her so much and have turned this into (for you) an Us or Them war.

    Again, sorry for coming into your space and harshing the buzz, or whatever it is.

    To the moderator(s), I don’t really mind if you don’t let this comment through, just wanted to apologize for the record. Thanks.

    • joyce

      everyone hear welcomes your comments…….. we, unlike others, are not aftraid

      thank u n please come back

    • Btw……. you dont harsh our buzz, we just dont drink the kool aid………

      and we just take the evidence and disect it. wish i had my thesauris to use so oh smart words like you, but inteligence is deeper than whats on the surface

    • No one here turned anything into an “us vs. them” war. You can thank the pro-pros boards for taking that attitude first. Anyone who doesn’t post on there with an “OMG DEATH PENALTY NOW!” comment gets raked over the coals.

      • Absolutely right Kira! Since day one when this happened, the whole world heard nothing but “stalker” and “fry her” without even knowing any of the evidence! Who started the “us against them” war was actually TA, when he vilified this girl to his family, friends, co-workers, church peers! After his passing, this tradition was carried on by all of them, and then the State.
        So here we all were, waiting to hear the evidence, and as it all comes to light, of course we are going to get defensive as we learn the facts. And, even more defensive when we realize that even the facts don’t stop these people from wanting to kill this girl.
        Civil liberties. That’s what makes me passionate about this.
        There is no other website where any of us can go without being attacked and bashed just for having an opinion, and the funny thing is, we don’t go over to other sites just to insight arguments, and bashing. The people here who have tried to post on other sites have done so with good intention. They get ripped to shreds just for being there with an opened mind.
        The stuff I have seen on Twitter is disgusting. I don’t use facebook because it’s even worse. The only site on the planet where it’s o.k. to have “let JA fry” fan pages and the like. How sick!
        On Twitter, people going as far as to say that they hate her family because “they’re fat” and “they enjoyed their daughter hacking someone to death”. Where do they come up with this crap?
        Thank God for this site!

    • Are you serious ? have you went to Facebook an actually tried to have a conversation with anyone on those sites ? you get raked over the coals for being a MAN HATER an LIBERAL an some very ugly things I won’t say here even. Even on any HLN or talk show walls the MAJORITY says DEATH they do not even try an see what could have happened. They want to make TRAVIS out to be some kind of SAINT 😕 which is obliviously untrue. I am thankful to find this SITE here an not be CHASTISED daily about my opinion which goes against the MAJORITY out there that actually say something which is DEATH!

    • As you stated Joyce, people here discuss (and react to) “…the facts presented in court”. Most of what is discussed here is based on facts as they are documented whereas the “other” side, the Travis-towners, seem to be so absorbed in the fictitious garbage being strewn about by these tv soapbox celebrities that they’re not even willing to discuss the matter in a civilized way. They scream for Jodi to be sentenced to death seemingly without caring to get the details first. It’s only an “us” against “them” when we try to comment or ask questions on one of “their” forums, and we’re usually met with a barrage of insults and threats. For the most part everyone commenting here has been pretty rational and civilized.

  87. oh no…that idiot Bryan Carr is going on NG and Jane whats-her-name again this week to talk about Blood Attonement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!He’s having another guy with him too(one whose sanity i seriously doubting,he’s on one of the Support groups always talking about how he wants to marry Jodi for crying out loud)
    Cant they understand that this is HURTING instead of helping her???Especially when they laim to be her friends(well,Bryan does at least.)
    Cant sth be done about these people?

  88. Anyway…… what’s this evidence or talk about TA requested a 3sm with Jodis little sister? ??? Is this TRUE??? Did anyone hear this???

    • the name was something like sonaqua lay. I should google it. she said the name in court.

      • Travistown’s response: “What guy HASN’T asked his girlfriend for a threesome?”

        Did I just date/marry boring guys throughout my life or what? I’ve never been asked for a threesome. Honestly, these comments about how Travis’ rape talk and threesome talk is so “typical” is really insulting to men as a whole.

        • yeah, the rape thing and the 12 yr. comment… never really in my mind. if u have to force someone, what a drag. i kno re:fantasy but… not MY thing.
          threesome? not really eithet. think somewhere i’d be a lil jealous?

          • Note that Jodi said today she believed Travis had more sexual partners than she had and over a longer period of time. He wasn’t any virgin.

        • Kira, lol, my husband came home one day and told me a female customer came on to him at work, he told her no thanks, I’m married. She said she we could have a threesome. Husband turned that down too. We had fun in our early years, but some things there are limits to.

        • I think it’s because of all the porn, the one that debases women (I wonder, is there any that doesn’t) that boys are brainwashed and conditioned with, where the motto is ‘more is better’, and ‘a harem gives me respect from other men.’ But, like all smart guys know, does not give them respect from women.

        • I suppose that is the FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS saying that ? I have never met a man that went to church that asked me to be in a 3 some. I have met some men at bars back in my wild days that did come out an ask that but no way I would do that. I have no attraction to woman at all as far as going to bed with one. I did have one bf that did ask me once tho an I asked him well fine I would be willing to do that with your so called friend from work if you are also willing to let me bring home Joe he is about 6’2 an very much bi-sexual. Then he did not want to do that of course it was a fetish to have 2 women. We broke up not long after that I was just disgusted with him. An may I add he ended up dating/marrying that woman at work so he was cheating anyways.

          • I think you hit the nail on the head right there with the “man that went to church” comment. Face it, having a threesome is probably in every normal heterosexual males top 3 fantasies. But as Travis was a churchly guy and a “virgin”, it was inappropriate for him to be having such discussions with Jodi.

            • Plus I firmly believe he was drunk off his ass in that phone sex tape, and surely it wasn’t his first time drinking, so there’s your picture of the good Mormon. Like the old saying, you can put a temple garment on a pig, but it’s still a pig.

        • your right that’s just damage control. i think Travis was a very disturbed person and chris hughes knows and shares some sickness.

      • Chaitanya Lay
        Here, to the right of Jodi in this pic (our left) http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias/photos/19482892
        This pic was originally posted by Patty on day 25 comments section, regarding Jodi’s injured finger in the photo. Just so happens, the third part of the 3-some is tagged, sitting beside her in the photo. I posted this below too but my comments are coming up out of order, so hopefully this one works.

    • Lol… God sometimes think…. what would I do or say to NG if I ever saw her face to face? ?!!

      • I don’t know, but if I was a lez I’d turn straight quick. Did you see here and that fat jail guard on the tour in that video? I think she wanted her. Nancy Grace is the type of woman that just makes me feel bad, like something is very wrong.

  91. Now they are saying on NG that Jodi is faking hand injury!! Unbelievable!! Try keeping one finger joint bent when ALL of the others are straight.

    • that’s NOT the finger mz. disgrace should be given!
      just think if jodi injured her middle finger and Lil Marti asked her to show it to him.

  92. Did you notice how the defense addressed the Margaritaville issue? Jodi said she cut her hand on a Margarita glass. Ryan Burns had said that was the name of the bar. NOT! One more item cleared up.

    • Yup, I caught that! Nurmi is smooth. He’s addressing every single things the Pros tried to pull out of their a$$ and adding more in too. And, the way Nurmi is sooooo laid back and patient and gentile just highlights for the jury, how ridiculous, childish and crazy Martinez is. LOVE IT!

  93. I’m new here as a commenter. I appreciate the site and your efforts.

    But you people are missing the boat. If you can come up with some made up stories about how you knew JA and she was always a vicious sociopath you could get a guest spot on Dr. Drew or Jane Velez Mitchell whatshername.

    These shows are being filled with all kinds of dumb liars, hack lawyers, psychics and braindead body-language “experts.” It’s biggest vicious circus on cable TV I’ve ever seen, and I watch a lot.

    • OH yes most people on here have BOYCOTTED the shows an are not even watching those channels as they are totally one sided. There is a man Bryan Carr that goes on there tho but it has been stated BY JODI she does not know him an he is a liar. So I am to assume he is either a PLANT by HLN for more DRAMA or he is a STALKER that loves attention an wants to be with someone in jail like some people do. But he does come on here I know for a fact because sometimes he will state things I have read on here. I have not watched IN SESSION OR HLN for a few days now myself just get on here an utube a few things. I do not like the talking HEADS at all they have made a MOB MENTALITY again just as they did with other cases.

    • I thought of calling in, telling Nancy G I’m “Jodi’s secret boyfriend from Canada” and then having a bit of fun at making a mockery of their programming. I don’t have a phone here in my igloo though.

      • You’re from Canada too EH? My igloo is starting to melt, but not fast enough. If I don’t get some sunshine soon, I will go crazy. Vitamin D drops are NOT working. Sunshine in a bottle my arse!

  94. I missed the trial today. Can someone tell me where I can find the videos. It won’t be the same not be able to talk to you as we all watch at the same time

    • i found it rehearsed to tell you the truth,MB.i believe in theat Law and wouldnt be able to put it so eloquently unless you know u’re gonna be asked about it.im not saying Jodi looks bad to me for having rehearsed it probably with Nurmi but it’s the jury im worried about.

  96. Wow! What a great day for the defense! I think the missing pages from the journal will have the jury thinking what we all, already know – that Martinez is not looking for the truth, just a win for the sake of winning. It amounts to deceiving the jury IMO.

    I can’t stand looking at TA’s family anymore. His brother looks like a robot, and moves his face and shifty eyes around like John Black from Days of Our Lives “Whaaaatch U talkin about Doc”. And I swear, his sisters have the eye rolling in sync! I feel bad for the hell they went through, but I think honestly, if it was my brother and I was learning all of this crap about him, I’d be sitting in the middle at this point.

    I do not agree that Jodi had “other options” besides killing him. It’s sort of subjective to say that. We would have to know what her perception of things was at the time. If she felt she had no other option at that time, then she had no other option. Her belief that she was in danger for her life, is her belief. I think she might be the one dead had she not defended herself. If the jury finds her belief to be reasonable, then she will be ok.

    Anyway, GO NURMI! Love the demonstration about her finger, and the photo she had on her camera, showing her finger cuts before June 4th! The journal entries’ missing parts were icing on the cake. She is still protective of Travis and his reputation, but I think that will be what we hear about from the experts regarding how abused women act toward their abusers, so this does not surprise me. It’s starting to remind me of Stockholm Syndrome.

  97. I wish the camera person would stop focusing on Travis’ family. I’m trying very hard to ignore their smirks, sneers, eye rolls, and glares. It’s a shame, too, because only a handful of days ago they were starting to resemble mature adults. And I deluded myself that it would last.

  98. i missed the entire trial today, but based on a lot of the comments, it seems ike it went well for jodi? i say a prayer for her every night.. i swear, everyday she seems to look more and more depleted.. hang in there, jodi.. its almost over!!

  102. i TOTALLY missed the trail today. truTv had some reality tv on at noon, etc. so i thought they were off again?!
    they start late?

    • thats what i thought too, frank! same thing happened to me.. insession was playing some stupid shows so i assumed they were off and starting back up again tomorrow..

      • Tru Tv only showed about one hour I think someone said an then the rest was on HLN their sister station is how I understand that.

        • yea.. actually, i prefer waiting for “croackerqueen” to upload the videos now.. no interruptions, and no stupid unnecessary commentary..

  103. I hope Jodi is well. She did really well today, even though she looked tired and stressed.
    She was so dignified and so eloquent.

    I had HLN on mute/caption while watching on the pc, and noticed that while the commentators were still trashing her, one of the women looked embarrassed at times to do so.

    • That’s what it looks like! Is that the case? Did Kermit cut and take what he wanted?

      • Martinez didn’t want the phone sex tape spliced and dubbed for the jury; but he wanted to cut portions of Jodi’s journal entries to impeach her testimony.

        • thanx MB,Im gonna have to go back and rewatch that last part with the journal entries.today was a really tiring and confusing day,what with all the endless sidebars and M’s objections!

  107. What question did Joyce ask, to get you all huffing puffing? (curious)

    My comment got erased, I don’t take it totally personally yet.
    I was saying.
    Jody was so dignified and eloquent today. I admire her very much. Recross continues tomorrow, right?
    There is still a lot of JM’s unruly spit to throw in the spit basket.

  108. So today the defense did well. I think the visual aids are going to be really good for them. It’s the states burden of proof. So far they didn’t establish motive or premeditation IMHO. Reading people’s comments here is insist full and let’s hope the defense makes more valid points and wraps it up soon to get their experts.

  110. Did anyone catch either Jean or Beth today after they played the tape of Travis detailing all he wanted to do and talking about his “loads” or was that only on the HLN radio channel? She (whichever one it was- because without a face, I am clueless) pretty much said that Travis was disgusting. I would paraphrase, but I am not good at that at all. I was like, – AM I hearing the right person say this? She just had such a hard time searching for the words to say it in a manner that would not get bleeped. I found strange joy in this. I was like TAKE THAT you unworthy HLN Harpy!!!

    And just for the record, I have boycotted HLN other than the sirus radio coverage, because it is all I can get on the way to and from work – so instead of Will I am and Britney spears, I listen to the trial.

  111. regarding ta’s friends- i noticed during the dateline special, “along came jodi,” that one of his “friends” seemed to be smiing an awful lot, considering the circumstances.. i think his name was aaron? the one who claimed travis said, “if i die, you know why…” i know its been a long time, but youd think that it would still be something fairly difficult to talk about.. idk, but he really rubbed me the wrong way..

  112. i think something is wrong with the comment section lol.. my comments are being posted in the middle of the page for some reason, and it looks like i keep commenting about that joyce person.. haha.

  113. Aha! The name of the girl brought up today regarding a threesome is Chantaila Lay. Thanks to Patty posting a picture on an earlier date of Jodi’s injured finger, you can see the tagged names of the people in the picture and sitting right beside Jodi in a Limo (on Jodi’s right – our left) is a girl tagged with this name.
    The original post was from Patty on the Day 25 trial page, and link she posted to the limo ride picture is here: http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias/photos/19482892
    Thank You Patty! You totally just uncovered two things in one post!

    • Chaitanya Lay is the correct name – sorry I had that “Chantilly Lace” song stuck in my head an mixed the name up! But she is there in the picture!

  114. I hate how they have people who hardly know her express
    their opinion after the fact. Most people I have worked with
    do not know jack about me. That does not mean that they have the
    right to assume that they know me based on the court of public
    opinion. Has this waitress bitch from Jane considered that he
    had a different type of control over her than just possessiveness.
    He obviously was possessive if her too. For all she knows
    he would treat her like hell if she didn’t call him.

    Oh well I guess ” Veronica” paid her credit cards off.

    • Veronica’s been lying on a lot of those shows. She’s the loon who claimed that Jodi starved a cat. Completely bonkers.

      • I wish I could see a photo of that woman she sounds like she is one of those people that is very jealous of Jodi because she is pretty. I can hear it in that tone of voice she has.

        • I totally thought the exact same thing as soon as I heard her yesterday. She was asked if Jodi has some kind of charisma that the men loved, she said something about Jodi having a “flat effect”. She could not admit Jodi was attractive, I know It hurts ugly (inside and out) bitches to have to admit that other women are attractive.

    • I don’t buy what this Veronica lady says one bit. One night I swear I recognized her voice when she called into another show under another name relaying another bullshit story.

      And yes, Travis was clearly, OBVIOUSLY possessive of Jodi. He gave her a hard time about dating other men when he was free to do whatever he wanted with other women. Yeah, I notice how almost nobody ever mentions that!

    • We discussed this over the last few days after Martinez made the claim that the “foot/Travis body” photo showed his foot pointing toward the direction of the bathroom (implying his head was further up the hall towards the bedroom). That contradicted everything with regards to the positioning of the camera at that time, if that were true. I’m sure Nurmi picked up on it as well and will clarify in his rebuttal where they were at the time that photo was taken.

  116. im at the part where she is describing the law of attraction- i live by this, too! it also applies to the converse.. it’s beneficial to promote in detail the positive aspects of your life or certain situations, feelings, events, memories bc that attracts “the good,” so to speak, into your life.. which makes sense as to why she goes into so much detail about how much she loves travis and about the wonderful experiences she had with travis.. she was trying to attract more of those positive aspects into her life..

    • there he goes.. screaming at her again.. maybe thats why his voice sounds so scratchy.. mine would, too, if i were constantly yelling.. geesh! someone give him a xanax.. asap!

  118. Oh oh, so I just watched the Utube Part 2 of today’s session and I couldn’t help myself and commented. Of course I had to reply to some dumbass who said that the perv TA just loved sex. Being involved with a sex addict in the past and victim of abuse I just couldn’t take it. I’m sure I will get pounded on but at least I made a stand! So… just stepping back here for a breath of sanity. Thanks for being here, everyone.

  119. Find it odd that TA sister committed on his myspace page at 730 am June 4th ” hope to see you soon” meaning ? In heaven? Did she know something?

    Is chaitanya the girl who wanted a threesome? She committed on a couple photos after his death with Jodi in the photos. Found that strange!

    1000 place to visit …… Check out the place jodi and Travis had visited together over a short time period!

    I really thing there’s more to this story……roommates story doesn’t add up! Fingerprints on the bullet? How in the world did she get him in that position in the shower?

    How wasn’t the dog going crazy? Dead body, smell of blood? Hmmmmmm

    911 call is lame ! I would of been freaking out on that call if I found a dead body!

    Why was the protection order denied?

    So many unanswered questions to this trial when someone’s life is on the line….. C

  120. I think there is definitely truth to her story. I am genuinely worried for her, and I think I’d actually cry if she was not found innocent. My heart really goes out to her. I don’t think it was premeditated, but perhaps the stabbing was overkill (although if she was afraid for her life, that would explain it).

    Also, I am getting genuinely annoyed with the whole “oh, she enjoyed the sex, so she couldn’t possibly be an abused woman!” Abused woman can enjoy sex. As far as not reporting the abuse, that doesn’t mean a thing. Because all women that are abused leave as soon as the abuse starts and report it too, right!? That’s why there are no abused women anymore! (NOT). Oh, and it’s not like no outwardly upstanding citizen ever does anything behind closed doors (like abuse their partner/spouse). I mean no police officer or state’s official or pastor has ever done anything terrible behind closed doors!

    Also, (and venting here, I know, but) he has defensive wounds, true, BUT it couldn’t possibly because of this: if he was after her, and then she was able to get the upper hand, of course he is going to fight back and defend himself! (but, no, that couldn’t possibly be one explanation at all).

    All this happened behind closed doors. I believe in God, and He knows the truth. Everything will come out on judgement day. That’s that. For now, not enough evidence to suggest premeditation.

  121. Ugh!
    Because abused women always go to the hospital…
    Because we tell our friends (who have the stable relationships we covet) that we are dating a douchebag…
    Because it it un fathomable to those who haven’t lived it to understand why we would “bend over and take it”, all smiles and fake orgasms because saying no is not an option and it makes him happy and keeping him happy is the line we walk every minute…
    Because it’s after the bad times that he holds you and loves you and promises…
    Because “great guys” are great no matter what and women have to prove it every second of every day…
    Because we so desperately want to be loved, and it dosen’t matter how pretty or confident we may seem…
    Because we don’t document the bad stuff in our journals. Jesus! We don’t even admit the bad stuff to ourselves why would we document it…

    I got out, but had that night gone badly I could have been in similar shoes. There is no way I could prove any of it…I was at his house I went there on my own free will. I was not well. I wish Jody didn’t answer the phone that night. I wish she would have turned off the phone and drove on and found peace…

    It scares me that people just seem to think this story is good guy/bad guy abuse is so complex.
    I should never have watched Dr.Drew tonight. When will the “boys will be boys” crap end!!

    I LIKE SO RAPED YOU…not okay.
    Peace for Jody
    Sorry if this is an inappropriate place to put my comment, and thank you for this “safe place” to have an opinion.

  122. I am new to this site. Is it me or do most of you think the death penalty should be reserved for
    people who drag young girls and children off the streets and rape and murder them or those
    slimeballs who break into old womens houses at 3 a.m. and rape and murder them orTed
    Bundy types. I don’t think domestic violence cases should be death penalty cases because
    they vary in too many states. That dentist woman in Texas who ran over her cheating husband
    five times only got 20 years and she will not serve all of them. Why is this even a death penalty
    case. Maybe because he was stabbed so many times, but you can only kill somebody once.
    I don’t think it was premeditated. Why would you plan to kill someone and then stay at their
    house for 15 hours before doing it, while someone might come by or a roomate might come
    home. I think it started out as self-defense and then became a rage killing because of all
    the shit she took from TA. She could have and should have ridded herself of the jerk, but some
    women are easily brainwashed and weak. He was obviously a bastard and a player who
    liked to play mind games with women (I have met them, they are sick f***ks). He would never
    have been faithful to any woman. He was probably going to marry one of those morman
    prudes and then do Jodi on the side. I think he was like that Jeff person with that morman spin-off
    cult who went to jail for forcing himself on his neice. It’s too bad Jodi wasted her life on that piece of
    crap. SHE SHOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY. NO MAN IS WORTH GOING TO PRISON OVER. I hope she doesn’t get the death penalty though.

    • That is how I feel too !~ the DEATH PENALTY should be there for those people as you stated that actually have done murder an rape over an over again sometimes even when they get out some how.

      But a case like this with evident abuse of the mind for sure. It is like we are telling people it is ok to be a PIG to use woman for sex an degrade them but still look for that nice girl to marry ! WTH ! it truly disgusts me I know men do it but does that make it RIGHT ? No it was wrong he drove a woman to the brink. An they make it seem like she should have took the beating or whatever was to come. Or that she was a phys-co an just killed him out of rage but I truly do not believe that story.

  123. Overall I think it was a very good day for Jodi and her defense team. Sure it was tedious but Nurmi made alot of great points and was able to cast doubt on alot of the progress that JM thought he made against Jodi on cross examination. The voice of TA spouting all the vile language proves that he is not the innocent one who was taken advantage of. The arm around the shoulder of the female defense lawyer was big also. Another thing that hasn’t been mentioned on here today that I think is big was when Jodi stated that TA paid for her to move to Mesa after they had broken up. That doesn’t sound like somebody trying to distance themselves from a stalker ex-girlfriend to me.

  124. I have to admit I do get a kick out of going to “their” forums now and then and starting a little shit. I tried initially to have tactful debates with them but once I realized most of them were ignorant redneck chicken f*ckers I decided it was more fun just to poke the bee’s nest. Does anyone watch “The Walking Dead”? That’s exactly what the Travis-towners are like, a bunch of brain dead zombies zoning in on anything that makes a noise with no rhyme or reason, just looking to eat your brains.

    • I have to agree I do it too. When I see a PAGE FULL OF HATERS I will jump in an give my SPILL an it does really irritate them it is like walking into a hornets nest. I only snoop normally an then I can’t take it for too long an have to comment. I have boycotted the TV…HLN an IN SESSION in my house….. but I still snoop around TravisTown pages. I guess I should say that different ANY news page I got too is a TRAVIS TOWN it is 100 % for the death penalty everywhere I go but here !

  130. Dr.Drew is a lot like nurse Rachett from the ‘Coo Coos Nest’ ……..

    “If my kids ever did heroin I would load up their car with heroin and call the cops.” – Dr. Drew

    Dr. Drew Pinsky frequently enjoyed cocaine while working at the LA radio station, KROQ, in the early 1980s.
    I think Dr. Drew IS too dangerous for prime time.

  131. Is there any way we could have a dedicated page to discuss just the crime scene itself, like we have for the Flores report?

    I would like to have the room diagrams, accidental photos, and the drawings of Travis’ injuries to look at.

    I wonder if we looked at everything as if there WERE two people if it would make more sense.

  132. Guys, I looked at the second picture with the baseboard. You know where they say TA’s body is available. Here’s a trick for anyone here who uses a Mac. Get that picture into iPhoto and just hit the enhance button. Don’t do anything else. You’ll see something amazing. That’s not a body, IT’S A BLACK TRASH BAG!

    It looks like someone’s dragging a black trash bag. You can even see the bunching up, the lights reflecting off it and such.

    I wonder if Jodi was dragging towels and things, she used to try clean up with out of there in a black trash bag.

    Does anyone know if they said towels, etc were missing. I did hear something about bed linens being gone.

    • Is there any way for people who can enhance the photo, to post the enhance version here? If not, maybe you could upload it to photo bucket and post us the link? I’ve heard comments like this about what the enhanced versions show (on the photos page), but I can enhance them. I would also LOVE,LOVE,LOVE to see a page here dedicated to crime scene and photo analysis, where comments were kept only to that topic.

  133. Just want to say that I am inspired by all of you here! Makes me feel good to see a good and respectful conversation about this case. It is refreshing. And to the admins,…Great job!

    • Thanks Robinhanc! We all enjoy a good discussion of the evidence and testimony. We don’t need or want to be haters.

  134. I hate it for Jodi!! I’m hoping for the best. I know you didn’t want to go to trial over this because of the sex stuff. But maybe they will see the good side of you and that you tried to be a good girlfriend to him but he didn’t know what kind of good girl he had! I’m praying for you!

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