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The jurors start day #4 of deliberations @ 9.30 am MST today.
The verdict — should it arrive between now & Christmas — will be broadcast live @ www.CBS5AZ.com
A new page will go up once we get the promised 1 hour notice on the announcement.
Any relevant tweets & info will be posted in the comments section of this page as we go along.
In the meantime folks…
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Remember…
WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS in our quest for JUSTICE FOR JODI.
Never question it.
Never doubt it.
Prepare for it.
Leave your thoughts & comments below…
SJ
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good morning everyone.. if the jury can deliberate for just nine more days we will hit 800 😀
Jodi Arias: An Argument for Reasonable Doubt
http://justice4jodi.wikispaces.com
Fingers and toes crossed for Jodi. Prayers for life.
GOOD MORNING TEAM JODI!!! Congrats #1 Debbie for getting up with the chickens!!!! 😉
In this case I got up with the puppy thanks R Love 😀 no gifts please. I need nothing 😀
♥ PRAYERS FOR JODI, JODI’S FAMILY, DEFENSE TEAM AND THE JURY ♥
Psalm 147:11
11 the LORD delights in those who fear him, who put their hope in his unfailing love.
Angela Arias retweeted
Cora Deegan @CoraDeegan · 16h 16 hours ago
Lunch with @DaniDeeg and @AngelaArias21 #jodiarias. A good day for the haters to hate
Apparently, Jodi’s sister joined Twitter yesterday.
Ohhhhhhh not sure that’s all good!!! I pray she uses her head. I hope she ask herself “would Jodi want me to say that?”. Don’t get me wrong she has a right to ripe these people a new one but ….. Becarefull!!!
Yes be careful dear Angela, I’m not sure you need that heart ache right now.
♥ Much Love to You and Your family!!!! ♥ Your day will come when you will
be able to say your peace, just do not get in a hurry. . .give it time. Let God
Protect Jodi right now. ♥ XOXOX
R. Perfectly said….hugs!!”
I agree
Well I believe it is like ALV stated on her video… she apparently had a twitter account (someone had made one using her name) and she didn’t even know how to tweet. She also had a facebook page that she had never been on. There is no saying for sure this is Jodi’s sister or some ignoramus trying to cause trouble.
That is so possible too.
Debbie, I hadn’t considered that!
The haters really do seem to be in their “element” don’t they.
Squirming worms, squirm away. Pitiful.
I can’t help but think that Angela has had enough of the haters and need to vent. I agree that she should be careful. I am concerned about the barrage of evil she is facing which will be directed at HER as opposed to her sister. I hope she is emotionally, mentally and physically prepared for the abuse. It will take stamina unlike that which most people possess. It will require control in her replies. It will require her to put aside an immediate response, a hasty response which may not, under normal circumstances, be in her nature. Hopefully she will let love conquer the hatred that currently surrounds her. It will be more than the average person can overcome
Good morning everyone.. hoping for some justice for Jodi today!
Good morning Debbie, congrats on #1.
Well back a while some sarcastic media person Jodi would be serving her sentence at the courthouse….. I know it’s stressful on everyone. But this jury is no different then the last. When it comes right down to it some just can not vote to take the life of another. I hope that those are the ones that will question how Jodi was convicted in the first place.
I really think someone needs to keep a eye on the siblings. The longer this goes on the more stressed they become. I don’t know how normal it is for a family to be hanging out at the courthouse. I have never heard this before. Someone needs to direct them in someway. Kinda get the feeling Tanisha is the one in charge. That just might get them in a whole lot of trouble. JM you need to take Care of these “kids….”. No rules or boundaries for them..
Jodi our sweet angle you are so strong…please feel our love and armed around you….
Jodi Our Sweet Angel Stay Strong!!!! If by chance, they say DP I will hang on to the
words that Dan stated on the last thread. Yes it would be scary. Then and only then,
Justice will be served to the guilty when it goes before the Federal Courts. It will be
out of the hands of the Arizona CORRUPT System. The haters might enjoy the sentence for
a few seconds but it will not stand, absolutely no way! May they enjoy their seconds of glee
if that happens. ♥ JODI ARIAS WILL BE FREE AGAIN! ♥
IT IS IN GOD’S HANDS AND HE WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS. We Are With You Jodi!
God Bless you my dear friend…We all needed to be reminded of that….
I think you hit the nail on the head there Cindy. The family does not know boundaries because they most certainly weren’t raised with any according to TA. They basically fended for themselves. I do not think it is normal for them to be hanging out at the courthouse but then they are not in their own place… they are in a different state so they don’t have anything else to do.
BS sorry they didn’t do this last time. They can swim at the hotel, go to the museums. It’s not a pole dunk little town. Hanging around the courthouse is not mentally healthy for any of them. That is what frightens me.
sorry Cindy I laughed out loud when you put mentally healthy and the alexander family in the same sentence… I really do not think that is a possibility.
“It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of executioners.”
Albert Camus
Praying…….
Amen and Praying………♥
We are all thinkers here 😀 . This is our job!
Exactly.
Hiya everyone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVMho2cP1NE – ABOLISH THE DEATH PENALTY.
Thank you Pandora…..if only….
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 7m7 minutes ago
#jodiarias jury is back to deliberating at 9ish MST. Today was my guess for verdict day. See you at the courthouse!
Troy Hayden has a new article with video entitled “DOC prepares new ‘home’ for Jodi Arias.” There is video of Perryville and Jodi’s cell. It describes what she can do depending on her sentence. Describes how much she can spend per week at the commissary, describes pay rate for job, describes that she can participate in group counselling with 11 others if she gets a life sentence, describes some other things she can do, etc., etc. Decided against posting it here but if you’re interested…
CC53, Tony and how many news media have the inside info…I have heard, like I said last thread, at least 3 different reports….
Coldcase53, T*&# H@*#@* is considered a BAD word around here. He is sealing his own fate with his need to self promote himself. . .what a shame for him. Trying to save you from the Stool of Shame. 😉
Good Morning All 🙂
(((((Tea Jodi)))))
This Alexander family is out of control IMHO…….they have issues themselves and their behavior shows it….but we will persevere for Jodi and the appellate courts will remedy the corrupt, fraudulent verdict that JM and others sold their souls for…….
Bravo, Bravo!!
Whatever is going on it draws a light to the travesty in the case itself. There is NO evidence that Jodi killed anyone. I am not trying to find holes in the prosecutions case, they find me in the middle of the night.
There are no fingerprints in evidence that belong to her. How can anyone commit this murder without leaving one fingerprint?
There must have been someone’s fingerprints. It only makes sense. Did the police find the? Where are they? Were they hidden from the defense? And, if they didn’t match Jodi’s they couldn’t be brought into evidence, now could they?
♥ (((((((Carol Handy)))))))) ♥ We’ve all had sleepless nights over this. SMH
She admitted under oath she killed him. There is no ambiguity here.
There IS ambiguity: Her LAWYERS told her to LIE!!
She has NEVER said she KILLED him…
On Jodi’s official Twitter account, @JodiAriasUpdates, it states that the conspiracy theories are not true, and it is her testimony that is true.
I wholeheartedly agree with that.
I do respect people’s differing perspectives and exploration, investigation. I do think much that is valuable will come from that exploring.
In looking at the facts in this case:
This was a bloody crime scene, which was supposed to have happened in 2+ minutes.
And, yet, there are no fingerprints put into evidence that matched Jodi’s fingerprints.
And, there were no footprints that were put into evidence that were connected to Jodi.
In fact there were 2 footprints and neither was associated with anyone. There was one in the hall, and there was one in the shower.
No time of death was ever established.
The corpse does not appear to be dead 5 days.
Why wasn’t an estimated time of death ever given?
The answer is that it would not have fit into the time-line drawn up by the detective.
Evidence that was put into evidence is questionable to say the very least.
But there was damage done to at least one computer, damage done to a cameras, timestamps added to pictures that cannot be certified.
There was erroneous information about a stolen gun, gas cans, stalking, tire slashing, jealous obsessive behavior, all of which were blown out of proportion and which have been discredited.
There is just too much to be questioned by professionals; they will be questioned as time goes by and Jodi will be exonerated.
Lots of people are convicted of murder when they don’t leave forensic evidence. You can’t seem to grasp this concept at all. Dana Chandler was convicted of double homicide despite the fact there was NO forensic evidence left at the scene and no witnesses. That doesn’t mean she was innocent, for there was tons of circumstantial evidence pointing to her guilt. With Jodi she has admitted killing Travis. This is not seriously questioned. The ONLY issue in this case is WHY she did it.
YOU are having trouble seeing the TRUE facts.
READ how she was FORCED into a STORY so she could get out of the LYING Detective Flores’ INTERROGATION room.
There is no comparison between Dana Chandler and Jodi Arias. They are no where near the same type person. The cases are completely different from the start. There is no way I would support Dana Chandler. She deserved her sentence, unlike Jodi Arias.
Hey has anyone seen Canada Carol? She is on early in the morning with Vicky and I…..hummmm
I was thinking the same thing. She hasn’t been around much since deliberation began. Hope she is OK.
Knowing how dedicated CanadaCarol is, I’m sure she is trying to catch up with her life. I’m sure she is not far away, ever. We will send her a group hug! ♥ ((((((((CanadaCarol)))))))) You are being missed!!
Well to all of you that have been slammed with snow….I would like you to know that we were hit with freezing rain early this morning and now it’s snowing you should see the snowflakes are huge things… I’m not upset because if it’s it’s snowing the temp is above 0.. Heat wave..
🙁 I love you oodles, but please do not send me anymore ice!!!!! It’s not funny.
Report this morning that death row inmate Kelly Gissendaner’s execution in Georgia postponed last night because of “cloudy lethal drug” Wow!
Get a clue people….she is not supposed to die!!!!!!!
Perhaps it is a Heavenly Intervention that Kelly Gissendaner’s “lethal drug is cloudy” !!!!! …And her execution has been put on an indefinite “hold”. …..
…If Jesus can turn water into wine & feed the hungry, certainly St Joan of Arc, Guardian Angel of Jodi Ann Arias can step-in and to turn Kelly Gissendaner’s “lethal execution poison” into unconstitutional problems for the United States Criminal Justice System.
… It is time for our so called “fair government” to step in an put an indefinite moratorium on verdicts of the death penalty in the United States, retroactive. …And, Congress to vote to abolish the death penalty.
The death penalty is plainly and simply an evil practice.
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago Phoenix, AZ
Very quiet so far and Internet is not working in the courthouse so this should be fun. #JodiArias
Karma……???
It’s in GOD’s hands right now, KARMA has to wait her turn.
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 3m3 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ
2 women & 2 men Jurors walk in with bags of snacks. They looked refreshed. #JodiArias
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 3m3 minutes ago
Some #JodiArias jurors just walked in for day 4 of deliberations. I will keep you updated throughout the day! #TravisAlexander #abc15
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 24s25 seconds ago
Two more jurors, men walk in to start deliberating. They gave me a friendly smile. #JodiArias
No real smart to report that…..
If the jurors are reviewing the exhibits from the criminal trial, then they will soon discover that the state put forth false assertions….like: No porn, gunshot last, gunshot penetrated the brain, TA was a good virginal Mormon, etc, etc, etc……ALL FALSE !! They will see that she was convicted on false evidence and perjury….having said that they should make their own decisions based on the truth without discussing the veracity of the criminal trial verdict per the instruction of the court to “accept” it………
BB, add to that there are no fingerprints belonging to Jodi entered into evidence! (as I said above).
Also, imo Jodi was most probably convicted because she “lied” and new evidence reveals/proves she DID NOT LIE!
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 2m2 minutes ago
Another female juror, tall blonde walks in wearing headphones. 7 jurors so far in the house. #JodiArias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 52s52 seconds ago
Jurors are making their way into the deliberations room #jodiarias #3tvarias
Hummm no fashion report…
Wonder if the Alexander’s are there to greet the jurors this morning.
so far they only seem to be there at the end of the day not at the start of it… guess it is too early for them
😆 Maybe they could be like the Walmart greeters. 😀
R……lol.
So in AZ. 9ish means between 9 and 9:30 am…..
Right. Arizona has a different time system then the rest of us. Not at all surprising.
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Or 10 and 10:30 am ….. nothing is precise with them. SMH Remember all of those sidebars. URP
Hey, question here. When the court records actually come out will the sidebar conversations be in them? It will be interesting to read them and see if JSS was in need of advice from the Frog at every single one of them.
I’m looking forward to reading those sidebars too! 😯
We will finally learn who was ‘manipulating’ WHO.
Carolyn Sung @CarolynSungCNN 1m1 minute ago
So far 8 jurors have arrived. #jodiarias
The haters are having fits. They can’t believe the jury didn’t come back with death within an hour. One poster called the jury “stupied”. This person’s “friends” then jumped all over the spelling and even commented that this person was “stupied”. Then someone else jumped in to rescue and said that they should not be calling people names. WTF? There is something seriously wrong with the way these people think (if you can even call that thinking).
What a strange bizarre world we live in.
LOL..that it is. …..
Critical thinking has not been taught to a majority.. they are literally mean sheep! lol
I just laugh at them…..no clue to reality….
Me thinking the 4 missing jurors ran for the border……
Too funny Cindy!!!! 😀
We just can’t argue with stupied 😆 (Hehehe, I had to make sure I spelled it right for them) I’ve tried and failed. They do not want help because they just know they everything including the name of the unknown soldier.
they know everything 😆 Oh my…… TYPO where are you?
Still in Jamaica partying with my brother until the 10th…..
Wonder if he thinks of us often??? Slacker.
Think about it…partying with the “fun” people all day and night..in the warm, sunny weather….
That would be a dream come true. . .all of us together sipping our Lemonade on the beach under the palm trees. . . aahhhhh…….
I think we will leave Typo Elf at home.
either the typo elf is here or there’s something wrong with my eyes
because I don’t see anything wrong with the way you spelled everything the first time
good morning my loves!
♥ Jodi ♥
R. said “they just know they everything” when she meant to say “they just know they KNOW everything”. It’s the dyslexia in all of us.
Good morning sweet Journee…
I think we all might be suffering from a mild case of typo-itis, every now and then. Geez what can we expect on Day 791. My thoughts and prayers are with Jodi and her family, the agony must be tremendous.
“…including the name of the unknown soldier.” LOL
My fav….R.
I’m sure we all have people in our lives just like them.
We just have to let them talk to themselves.
…
I had a former colleague of mine stalk me at a newspaper website trying to trash my character when I talked about my illegal dismissal and about a school superintendent who had just gotten a new appointment. She was really trying to rub it in about my termination when she should have kept quiet about it. At one point she made a typo about how “you can’t fix stiupid.” Real intelligent thinking coming from a school speech pathologist who didn’t realize she could go back and fix her typo.
😆 Karma took care of her. 😉
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 24s24 seconds ago
Jury is back at it as of 9:30am MST #jodiarias #3tvarias
What is the job of the victims advocate?? Umm seems like Steven is starting to lose it. Gold reported him pounding on the victums room.
Really? ? ? Alexander temper maybe?
That’s what Gold said his anger….
Just look at what they are doing to themselves in seeking death for another. Pitiful.
It is certainly a family trait. Don’t get me wrong, they did lose a loved (?) one but it has been almost 7 years and the drama should be in check by now. IMO It appears to be just a feeble attempt to sway the sheeple.
IMO, the drama gave them a familiar ‘home’ in which to reside.
They’ll be well and truly bereft when this is over.
♥ Journee ♥
Hmm … wonder if he is angry because he was reprimanded for “stalking the jury” ?
No, most likely not. He can’t deal with stressful situations. Not on common with PTSD patients..
That entire family is dysfunctional.
Trial Queen Sharee @TrialQnSharee 1m1 minute ago
#JodiArias jurors continue deliberating this morning, do we think it will b today? I will go out on a limb & say maybe tomorrow. #JustAGuess
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 24s25 seconds ago
8 jurors leave for a break. They rush past media & head for elevators. #JodiArias
What? No alexanders trolling yet? I’m shocked!
What a shame. Seems they just missed Steven’s display. Poor timing, Steven!
D. Steven Has PTSD and I’m sure angure issues. The need to keep a eye on him. I’m very serious he’s a ticking time bomb.
Just like his brother was. 🙁
Yes..
Typo~They needs..
He definitely needs help………
I know everyone here dislike the family, but to me Steven’s face always seems contorted with pain. I think he is very damaged by the loss of TA, and that his childhood trauma is mingled in with his grief.
Pan. They are there……
^^^meant for that to be replied to Pandora’s first post.
Mike Watkiss @mikewatkiss3tv 34s34 seconds ago
8 jurors just walked out of deliberation rm-break time-a number of observers seem to think there were some upset jurors yesterday#jodiarias
They are taking a break already?? They just got there……..they may be close to a decision or a mssg to JSS that they are hung……
I know….perhaps they needed to decompress before sending that mgs.
Does everyone need to be in Court when she tells them to go back and try??
JSS will alert the parties when there is a question or a message………..
…
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 26s27 seconds ago
8 jurors are BACK from short break #JodiArias #TravisAlexander #abc15
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 34s35 seconds ago
Jurors walk back in to continue to deliberate. Many had their head heads down, one with a drink in his hand. #JodiArias
Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 23s24 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
#jodiarias jurors return from break heads down as they walk, looking very serious.
Mike Watkiss @mikewatkiss3tv 29s29 seconds ago
8 jurors return after break-pretty serious & straight faced #jodiarias #3tvarias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 28s29 seconds ago
8 juror’s are back…juror 1 leads the pack. #jodiarias #3tvarias
Juror 1 again, So Scoopy is the one who likes to point that out just like the Frog. Hmmmmmm
I don’t know if anybody has noticed this but it seems that whenever the jurors walk out for breaks/lunch it seems that there is a group of 8 together….Hmmmmm…….
Yes I think we
BB,
Yes, I have. 8 for DP, 4 against??? If on their next break, 9 jurors walk out together, I’m going to get worried. More worried.
I wouldn’t worry. Perhaps the 8 are lifers. I may be wrong, but it only takes 1 to disagree and it’s a hung jury…?
Maybe there are 8 smokers and four who don’t …. I just don’t want to put the cart before the horse
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 31s31 seconds ago
Juror’s put their heads down when they walk by the press as we stare at them…I’m sure this is so awkward 2 b watched so closely #jodiarias
Ya think?????
ah – surprised that Scoopy is the only one to realize that the juror’s heads down has little to do with their ‘moods’ or their ‘deliberations’ and everything to do with avoiding contact with the media vultures.
Absolutely. They are like that poisonous gas fog every one was describing the other day.
They stink.
It did take her long to realize it though. Well, better late than ever I guess 🙄
Hmm..she considers herself a member of the “press” 🙄
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago
Maria and Jen went into the courtroom #jodiarias #3tvarias
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 42s43 seconds ago
No sign of #JodiArias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 2m2 minutes ago
#jodiarias attorney Willmott just arrived in court wearing jeans. Possible juror question?
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 41s41 seconds ago
Willmott goes into side room. Judge still hearing other cases. #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 28s29 seconds ago
Judge says there is a jury question that needs to be addressed immediately. #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 15s16 seconds ago
Stephens says the “issues with the jury will take some period of time” #jodiarias
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 14s14 seconds ago
Judge adjourned current case until another date because this jury matter will take longer than lunch #JodiArias #abc15
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 54s54 seconds ago
Judge says this question will take time to address #jodiarias #3tvarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 19s20 seconds ago
I’m guessing Willmott went to go get #jodiarias but not 100% sure yet.
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 6s7 seconds ago
Travis Alexander’s family just came into the courtroom. #JodiArias
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 17s17 seconds ago
Deanna Reid & all the Alexanders are here. So is WIllmott & Maria. #JodiArias
Cathy @courtchatter
Judge Stephens has left the bench. Willmott and MDLR are back with #jodiarias
Carolyn Sung @CarolynSungCNN 15s15 seconds ago
The #jodiarias jury has been deliberating for approx 17.5 hours. #JodiArias #VerdictWatch
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 41s42 seconds ago
Willmott back in the back of the courtroom talking to court worker. #JodiArias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 17s18 seconds ago
Willmott going to go change out of her jeans. Guessing the jury will be brought in shortly. #JodiArias
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 53s53 seconds ago
#JodiArias Attorney Jennifer Willmott is wearing jeans and asked court staff if she could go change #TravisAlexander #abc15
Mike Watkiss @mikewatkiss3tv 13s13 seconds ago
Perhaps some insight into what’s going on in deliberation room-juror question or questions about to be addressed #jodiarias #3tvarias
Cathy @courtchatter 9s9 seconds ago
Discussion among media, not sure if judge used the term “issues with jurors” or “questions with jurors” #jodiarias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 22s22 seconds ago
Judge was handling another case at the time and has adjourned that to deal with the question…I don’t know what it is yet #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 21s21 seconds ago
Juan Martinez is here. #Jodiarias
Okay, everyone hold your breath……maybe hung ?? maybe just a normal type of question as to what they can and can’t do?? something’s up…with 8 taking an early break this morning just after arriving…thought something was up……
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 10s11 seconds ago
Martinez talking to Alexander’s family now. #JodiArias
Cathy @courtchatter 10s10 seconds ago
Juan leans over and talks to Steven and Sam…shrugs his shoulders. #jodiarias
Where is KN?????
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 39s39 seconds ago
Juan is huddled with the family but I saw him mouth “I don’t know” #jodiarias #3tvarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 38s38 seconds ago
Judge not in the courtroom..its VERY quiet in here right now. #JodiArias
FFS, what is there to address after 3 days of deliberations???
Cathy @courtchatter 1m1 minute ago
Bailiff that handles the jury leaves out the back door behind the bench. #jodiarias
Cathy @courtchatter 1m1 minute ago
Is jury deadlocked? #jodiarias
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 59s59 seconds ago
Court PIO said to make yourself comfortable regarding the “juror issue.” #JodiArias #TravisAlexander #abc15
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 17s18 seconds ago
If #jodiarias is in stripes the jury won’t be coming in here #3tvarias
Cathy @courtchatter 38s38 seconds ago
Judge Stephens used both terms from the bench. “jury question” and “jury issue”. We are just waiting. Only party here is Juan. #jodiarias
William Pitts @william_pitts 29s30 seconds ago
Question this morning hints to me one of 2 things: Either hung, or jury will deliberate the rest of the day after Q is answered. #JodiArias
Cathy @courtchatter 28s29 seconds ago
This jury has been deliberating longer than the last one that hung. #jodiarias
Hummm now a jury “issue”… Hung…
Where is Jodi’s family??
DO NOT DO THIS TO THEM AGAIN!
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 13s14 seconds ago
Having flashbacks to the last time this happened…in that case the jury was hung and Stephens asked them to keep trying. #JodiArias
William Pitts @william_pitts 16s17 seconds ago
Remember, if the jury is hung, decision goes to Judge Stephens. It will be life, only question would be possibility of parole. @JodiArias
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 24s24 seconds ago
Large group jurors just left deliberation room #JodiArias #TravisAlexander #abc15
This is getting very odd…..
Cathy @courtchatter 32s32 seconds ago
At the moment all Alexanders have their heads down except Steven who looks stoically ahead. #jodiarias
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 7s7 seconds ago
We still don’t have a ruling whether we can role or not. This means something. If it’s a juror question, we cannot film. #JodiArias
FASHION UPDATE:
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 19s19 seconds ago
I can sneak in a Juan Tie Report….he’s in a black suit and coral colored tie #jodiarias
FFS, shut up Jen! Who gives a shit?
She is so transparent. She really should be embarrassed.
Cathy @courtchatter 27s28 seconds ago
All rise! Judge takes the bench. #jodiarias
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 29s29 seconds ago
Judge just walked in. No #JodiArias yet #TravisAlexander #abc15
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 10s10 seconds ago
Hey guys, we can’t film so it’s probably just a juror question. If it’s a hung jury, we can film. #JodiArias
They will get an Allen charge before any final determination is made on Hung jury….so you wouldn’t have camera yet until that is done………
Cathy @courtchatter 15s16 seconds ago
Only Judge and Juan here. Mike the court reporter talks to the judge. #jodiarias
Cathy @courtchatter 13s13 seconds ago
7-8 jurors have left the jury room. #jodiarias
Chris Williams @chriswnews 13s14 seconds ago
Judge Stephens is back. Still no #JodiArias & def team. #12News
Cathy @courtchatter 27s28 seconds ago
Randy the juror bailiff huddled with judge Stephens then left the courtroom. #jodiarias
Chris Williams @chriswnews 13s14 seconds ago
Some #JodiArias trial observers who stayed in hallway report seeing a handful of jurors walk towards the elevators & leave. #12News
Cathy @courtchatter 1m1 minute ago
Likely that group of jurors is taking another break while they wait for judge and atty’s to answer their question/s. #jodiarias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 15s16 seconds ago
Detective Flores has arrived #jodiarias #3tvarias
CBS 5 News @CBS5AZ 29s30 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Something is brewing in Jodi Arias trial. Judge is waiting for attorneys to arrive to read some type of jury question.#jodiarias@jbarrycbs5
William Pitts @william_pitts 30s31 seconds ago
Apparently AZ’s “25 yrs” law hasn’t been around for 25 years yet, so no one’s been able to come up for the possibility. #JodiArias
Will Jodi not be credited with time served?
There has to be a reason there is always drama in this trial.
It seems there is either For or Against…like teams in a superbowl.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 51s52 seconds ago
Judge is talking with her clerk as we wait #jodiarias #3tvarias
Cathy @courtchatter 35s36 seconds ago
Not sure what the hold up is. #jodiarias is kept at the courthouse in a cell. She doesn’t have to change out of stripes unless front of jury
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 47s48 seconds ago
If it’s a deadlock, judge will take recess and decide whether it’s hung or need to deliberate further. #JodiArias
I HOPE someone has notified Jodi’s family!!
They can’t do this again!!!
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Cathy @courtchatter 49s49 seconds ago
Willmott, Nurmi and MDLR enter. Willmott is now in appropriate attire. All parties go out in the hallway. #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 48s48 seconds ago
Judge asks to see lawyers in chambers. #JodiArias
Cathy @courtchatter 1m1 minute ago
Judge, Juan, Nurmi, Willmott go out in back hallway but not Mike the court reporter. #jodiarias
Cathy @courtchatter 36s36 seconds ago
Whatever is happening in the hallway is “off the record” #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 23s23 seconds ago
No sign of #JodiArias yet. Interested to see if she’s in civilian clothes or wearing her jail stripes.
CBS 5 News @CBS5AZ 14s14 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Waiting for Arias to arrive. Big key will be whether she is in jail uniform or street clothes. Street clothes=jury coming back?#jodiarias
Deep cleansing breath
All this for a question????? Not buying that one……
Where is Mr Keifer?
Katie Conner @KatieJConner 22s22 seconds ago
8 jurors just walked back into deliberation room #jodiarias #abc15
Must be smokers…same number as before
I hope your kidding.
I bet so too Dorothy and I am surprised the snarky tweeters aren’t commenting on the smell of smoke.
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 47s48 seconds ago
Lawyers are back. At recess until 1:00. #JodiArias
JODI should not enter courtroom until she gets word her family is there.
Yeah, I know – like she has a choice in the matter, but still…..
I agree. They can’t do this to her/them TWICE!!
Cathy @courtchatter 49s50 seconds ago
They’re back. Judge Stpehens calls a 1 hour recess until 1:00 MST. The secret court of Judge Stephens continues. #jodiarias
This may be the hour notice….for a verdict???
Someone needs to tell us if they see increased law enforcement presence in and around the courthouse…please ………..
Yup that’s it!!! And its a hung jury….
Oh I’m sure that place will be protected like Fort Knox. I just hope they perfect Jodi and her family…..
BB,
I was wondering the exact same thing. Is it the 1-hour notice or just a coincidence and they;’re just at lunch break???
Guesses??
Allen charge wouldn’t take “longer than lunch” to read to them.
Guess #1: 8 jurors are unable to accept the verdict of Guilty as they were instructed.
How the lawyers look? There you go 1 hour notice.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 15s16 seconds ago
They may let everyone eat, dress #jodiarias out and bring jury in courtroom at 1pm. Just a guess
If this is the one hour notice and we are about to have a verdict….my guess is one of two things…either they are so far apart in the split…say 7/5 or 6/6 or even 8/4 that there is no possibility that they will ever get a unanimous decision and JSS has decided to call it hung without further stalling….or the other possibility is it is unanimous and if that is the case the odds weigh in favor of DP 🙁
I really will be shocked if they all agree on the DP. I really think they are hung. 8/4
Me too!!!
So, if it is DP the Federal Courts will handle the Appeals, right or wrong, BB?
any extra police presence??? Anyone????
Chris Williams @chriswnews 1m1 minute ago
Court staff insists “it’s a question”. We’ll find out at 1pm. #JodiArias #12News
They are told what to say….means nothing……
Yeah, that’s what court staff insisted LAST TIME.
Do you know if there is anyone outside the court building that can see any increased law enforcement arriving??? This will be a huge sign that we are about to have a decision……
how would I know that?
Just asking generally, sorry…..shouldn’t hit the reply button on your post 🙂
Just getting a little nervous……..but I do want to know if anyone can report on any increased police presence…….
Your magic…..no is someone out side who tweets???
They will be there….
I’m with you Journee. I think they are trying to keep it on the down low so all hell doesn’t break lose.
Right. And that’s why Sandy wasn’t there. Not to worry this time. She’s on top of it.
That’s good to know, thanks Justus.
((((Justus))))
Thank heavens.
Omg, Journee – you’re RIGHT!!! I had complelttely forgotten about that. Last time they also said it was *just* a question. MFs!!!
Wonder if an alternate is going to be put on the jury to replace someone with scheduling conflicts….
Not this late in the game…..it’s the verdict…
I don’t think they would have taken a hour “recess” for that….something bigger is going on I believe…
Good points. I just worry about the over zealous juror that wanted on
If Jodi’s family informed the court they were coming – and because they were so near normal lunch recess anyway – they might have decided to just wait an hour to give Arias family time to get to court.
I hope if its not just a question that is the scenario.
They won’t mind. They’re not going to take a chance again. Last time they were told it was just a question, Sandy’s mother wasn’t there for Jodi when it was announced that the jury was hung. She will gladly come to court for ‘just a question’ this time around. NO DOUBT
♥ I believe that too.
I fully believe that with you!
If this is the verdict, do I have to turn on HLN to see this? Or is there another, less obnoxious, source?
there is a link on this page and SJ is going to be putting up a new page with that link – is what he said 🙂
Look at the top of page SJ posted it…cbs
Thank you both.
Thank God for live streaming!!
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Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 3m3 minutes ago
Apparently the #jodiarias jury has a complex jury question. Judge Stephens conferred briefly with lawyers and then called recess until 1.
I’m not so sure about that….why take a 1 hour break??? Jodi is already there and the attorneys are there…
Now who is buying that???
Complex question… what do we do if we don’t think she premeditated this murder?
Wouldn’t that be wonderful…
I think so or the other complex question… why are the alexander family and friends outside the courtroom when we leave each day?
Having them in my face all the time would tick me off if I was on that jury.
I wouldn’t be surprised. Too bad the original verdict can’t be set aside.
My computer decided to have a meltdown on Thursday and just got it back from the shop this morning. At least it had perfect timing if it had to act up. Quickly reading through this morning, it seems to me the jury is divided once again. I am so glad that everybody waited for me. BB, don’t be sad – I don’t think it could possibly be unanimous. 🙂
(((((Carol)))))
Good there you are…darn I was getting worried about you!!!
Yay, glad you are back! I was getting worried about you, too!
Hey Journee you want to poke little Miss R. Love???
~~~~~Ouch~~~~~~!
🙂
Don’t poke so hard, Sister!
I really was in a panic on Thursday. The thought of hearing something from the likes of HLN was too much and decided I would rather not know until I could hear it from JAII!
I’m confident she is checking here more often than she’s checking her email, today, cindy.
I know I am!
Thanks Journee, your right…
she is here
Thanks…I see that…
omg, so GLAD you’re back with us today ♥
Hiya Carol welcome back… pretty much all you have missed is the alexander family and friends acting up at the end of each day for the jurors leaving.
(((((CC)))))) Glad you made it back with us!!!!! ♥
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This is a very interesting tweet (10:26 above?):
William Pitts @william_pitts · 54m 54 minutes ago
Apparently AZ’s “25 yrs” law hasn’t been around for 25 years yet, so no one’s been able to come up for the possibility. #JodiAria
Why would this be his first reaction to the news about a “complex question” from the jurors?
Because he thinks the jury is hung therefore jodi gets life
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It was a question the first jury asked.
And the response they got was a bunch of obfuscation from the all of the lawyers as well as the judge.
If Jodi gets life with the possibility of parole after 25 years she has already served 7 years plus time for good behaviour should reduce it further so she should be eligible for parole in 10 years maybe?
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Sorry dropping this down here because I want to know the truth about this!!!!!Someone?
My question from above:
March 3, 2015 at 11:33 am
So, if it is DP the Federal Courts will handle the Appeals, right or wrong, BB?
I would answer if I knew….
There is an automatic direct appeal to the Arizona Supreme Court………
However, that can be appealed (if it comes back upheld) to the ninth circuit court of appeals and then ultimately to the US Supreme Court….
They just overturned Debra Milke DP in the ninth circuit court of appeals…
Okay, let me clarify here about the appeals: a writ of Federal Habeas Corpus (Latin for “you shall have the body”) which is an action taken by a prisoner for an unlawful imprisonment and is filed in federal district court. The claim is a violation of federal constitutional rights….which we certainly have here with the Brady violations…and the decision by this court can be appealed to the 9th circuit court of appeals…then this can be appealed to the US Supreme Court. This is just one of three ways to appeal:
1) direct appeal which goes to the AZ Supreme Court then this can be appealed to the US Supreme court for federal constitutional violations
2) Post Conviction Relief – after the direct appeal to the AZ Supreme Court has finished, post conviction relief action is filed in the trial court – this is where you can claim ineffective assistance of counsel, any new evidence that has been found that would have impacted the case outcome – the decision here can be appealed to the AZ Supreme Court and then this can be appealed to the US Supreme Court
3) Federal Habeas Corpus described above… this is where the Debra Milke case was overturned in the 9th circuit court of appeals
So you see there are several ways that Jodi can appeal her case and I am sure that the appellate lawyers will proceed forward on all fronts …where Jodi is going to be successful in my opinion is with the violations of her federal constitutional rights to a fair trial with the Brady Violations…..
And again with the DP there is an automatic direct appeal to the AZ Supreme Court paid for by the AZ taxpayers…….
So Dan was wrong in the way he stated it yesterday. 🙁 I was in hopes it would go flying out of that HELL-O hole Arizona straight to the Federal Courts. I want the Judge and the Prosecutor to pay for their injustices!
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Nancy Grace @NancyGraceHLN · 9m9 minutes ago
I’m hearing Travis Alexander’s family appears to be upset. #JodiArias
So what else is new…..
🙄
Good.
Perfect 🙂
nobody sends them money when they’re smiling, DUH
They should open their heart for one moment and think of the pain Jodi’s family is going through.
Everyone has acknowledged the Alexanders’ pain.
Absolutely Amy
Theater continues…
#Jodi we love ❤ you and hang in there our prayers are with you and family
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago
We have increased security and now we are all wondering if we have a verdict #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 2m2 minutes ago
Some of Alexander’s family is back at the courthouse. Still locked out of court. #jodiarias
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago
Stephen Alexander just walked into victim room. A lot of buzz outside the courtroom. #JodiArias
Okay that’s it folks INCREASED SECURITY – A VERDICT IS COMING………….
Expecting a riot perhaps?
William Pitts @william_pitts 2m2 minutes ago
Waiting on whatever this question is…NOTHING about a verdict yet, but you never know. Last verdict was announced as a “question” too.
CBS 5 News @CBS5AZ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ
Big guessing game right now. Everybody wondering what will happen next. What is jurors’ question?Are they deadlocked?#jodiarias @jbarrycbs5
Cathy @courtchatter 34s34 seconds ago
The Alexander family is up here on the 5 th floor waiting for the courtroom to be open. The media side of the 5th floor is packed #jodiarias
I would laugh like hell if the court was to remain closed and the only people in the room were the jurors , the judge and the lawyers/prosecution and Jodi
I would like her Mum to be there
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 34s34 seconds ago
Juan just walked past me and smiled. So did Flores. #JodiArias
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 11s12 seconds ago
Chris Hughes is here too. #JodiArias
Puking.
Woop-de-fuckin’-doo 🙄
Cathy @courtchatter 21s21 seconds ago
Alexander Family went in the courtroom with Juan and Flores #jodiarias
♥PRAYING FOR JODI AND HER FAMILY♥
PRAYING, PRAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jodi ♥ ♥
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 17s17 seconds ago
#jodiarias attorneys just arrived. Waiting in the hall with the media.
Cathy @courtchatter 48s49 seconds ago
Nurmi, Willmott, MDLR are standing outside the locked room with the rest of us. Awkward #jodiarias
Maybe the Alexanders are getting a “stern” lecture.
OMG, nerve-wracking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is Jodi??
Holding cell at the courthouse.
Yes, I want to know what she is wearing…..
Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 22s22 seconds ago
Attorneys and Alexander family back in #JodiArias courtroom now we are in too.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 6s6 seconds ago
Jodi is in here in civilian clothes #jodiarias #3tvarias
Okay, everyone pray and get ready……….
here is what I say
increased security + NO cameras to livestream a verdict = NO VERDICT because they are HUNG!
Carolyn Sung @CarolynSungCNN 33s34 seconds ago
#jodiarias seated in court. Maria De La Rosa is seated next to her. Willmott and Nurmi here as well. #cnn #VerdictWatch
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 32s33 seconds ago
Media standing by. No word on whether we can film yet. #JodiArias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 12s13 seconds ago
Back in the #jodiarias courtroom waiting to find out what is going on. Arias is not in stripes implying that the jury will be here too.
Jodi’s family???
Where is Sandy?
Maybe they’ll ask if they have to look at the ta family every time they go home
^5 johnm!
Cathy @courtchatter 32s32 seconds ago
Family is very tense. Sam has been crying. Tanisha grabs the tissue box. #jodiarias
oh please gimme a break
they will never have careers as actors because they are so bad at it
Cathy @courtchatter 17s17 seconds ago
#jodiarias talks very seriously and intensely to Willmott.
Cathy @courtchatter 37s38 seconds ago
Nurmi and MDLR were out of the room, they just returned. Stephens is not on the bench. Juan and Flores sit at their table #jodiarias
Birds of a feather flock together.
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 20s21 seconds ago
Arias’ mom is not here yet. #JodiArias
Cathy @courtchatter 26s26 seconds ago
No #jodiarias family. 1 supporter, no one I recognize.
CBS 5 News @CBS5AZ 17s18 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Our camera is in courtroom, however we can not take video unless there is a verdict announced or judge declares hung jury.#jodiarias
Jodi Arias Trial: A media request to air the death penalty retrial of convicted murderer Jodi Arias has been denied. The judge ruled that the footage is embargoed until the trial’s conclusion.
We will be able to live stream the verdict once it is reached. Stay with cbs5az.com for updates on the trial.
This is what is on the cbs thread from up above.
Carolyn Sung @CarolynSungCNN 29s30 seconds ago
#jodiarias wearing dark, short sleeve button-up. #VerdictWatch #CNN
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 11s12 seconds ago
#JodiArias wearing a short sleeved blouse, no glasses.
((((((((JODI)))))))))
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 15s16 seconds ago
Lawyers are going to chambers and they have papers in their hands #jodiarias #3tvarias
I need a half gallon of ice cream in front of me right now…
With Chocolate Syrup and Peanuts, Whipped cream and a cherry on top! GRRRRRRRR
Oh, Yes!!! Comfort Me Food!!!
Could NEVER eat at a time like this
Jury not in courtroom?
No…..
Where’s Sandy?
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 34s34 seconds ago
Lawyers are back #jodiarias #3tvarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 23s24 seconds ago
Judge says court has gotten two questions from the jury. #JodiArias
are they at liberty to say what the questions are?
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 29s29 seconds ago
The court proposed a modified jury instruction be given to the jurors. #JodiArias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 30s30 seconds ago
State disputes need for this instruction…not sure what instruction is yet. #JodiArias
What to do if they don’t agree with the original verdict?
That’s what I say, Justus!
State disputes…hmmm…good sign?
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 1m1 minute ago
Anddddd sidebar. #jodiarias
Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 26s26 seconds ago
#jodiarias judge calls sidebar as defense asks if it can talk about jury questions in open court.
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 52s53 seconds ago
Martinez agreed to a modified impasse instruction, Stephens said. Nurmi objects. Sidebar.
They are at an impasse?
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 1m1 minute ago
We’re talking about a modified impasse instruction here, which could indicate the jury is having trouble making a decision. #JodiArias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 38s38 seconds ago
Stephens did not read the questions themselves. #jodiarias
It’s regarding the Allen Charge – the “dynamite charge” to instruct the jurors to continue their deliberations and to keep trying….
If Juan’s against it I’m FOR it!
Yeah, whatever it is…
I’m lost….
impasse instruction aka allen charge
Cathy @courtchatter 27s28 seconds ago
Judge Stephens said there were 2 questions. #5 and #6. We only started with “secret” #5. Haven’t made it to #6 yet. #jodiarias
What does #5 and #6 refer to?
impasse, now that I understand
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 19s19 seconds ago
Sidebar finished. #JodiArias
William Pitts @william_pitts 11s11 seconds ago
Nurmi reading the instructions about jurors being convinced to change their minds.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 10s10 seconds ago
There is an impass with the jury #jodiarias #3tvarias
Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 28s28 seconds ago
#jodiarias defense attorney nurmi mentions jury “impasse”; says jurors should not change belief just to get a verdict out.
No! They shouldn’t.
I agree with Nurmi
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 31s31 seconds ago
Nurmi says each juror needs to be able to bring their “own moral assessment into the courtroom” #JodiArias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 33s33 seconds ago
Nurmi calls Stephens’ attention to jury instructions about not being swayed by other jurors and being independent.
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 27s27 seconds ago
Nurmi asks for no alterations to the jury instructions. #JodiArias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 34s35 seconds ago
Nurmi says the court should declare a mistrial now. Stephens denies the request. #jodiarias
Go fuck yourself useless pos
Scuse my language…she deserves it. Usless!…..
Stephens, you USELESS USELESS Judge!
What is an Allen Charge? – Definition:
After all of the evidence and arguments have been presented in a criminal trial, the judge officially hands the case over to a jury for final deliberations. The hope is that all twelve original jurors will be able to reach a unanimous decision and render a verdict. But occasionally a jury may become so divided that a unanimous decision simply cannot be formed. The jury foreman may communicate this impasse through a note to the presiding judge. In order to avoid declaring a mistrial or hung jury, the judge may deliver what is known as the Allen charge, or dynamite charge.
SJ
Team Jodi #WINNING <<<
Maybe this will help explain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_v._United_States_%281896%29
CBS 5 News @CBS5AZ 28s28 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Looks like judge will provide jurors modified impasse instructions. Jury clearly deadlocked.#jodiarias @jbarrycbs5
She is messed up! Modifying it now? Seriously?
Modified as in the way Frog wants it modified?
No kidding. Seriously
Exactly.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 55s55 seconds ago
The “dynamite charge” will be read to the jury #3tvarias #jodiarias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 39s39 seconds ago
Stephens called for the jury, then realized they are still at lunch. #jodiarias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 55s55 seconds ago
We are at recess for a little bit #jodiarias #3tvarias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
Stephens called for the jury, then realized they are still at lunch. #jodiarias
GET IT ALL ON RECORD, KN !!!! More for the appeals…..this jury is HUNG !!!!
I’m not sure what she is doing…
SHE is not sure what she is doing…cindy. She is going to tell them to go back and deliberate because at this point the jury is hung. She is making some kind of modification to the rule about what to do if the jury can’t get past their differences of opinion.
Neither does she! Spineless Sherry turn in your robe and exit to the left.
I think Martinez is her spine.
It is my hope that those against the dp refuse to change their minds and refuse to be talked into it.
Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
sounds like #jodiarias judge is going to tell jurors she knows they are at impasse but should get back to work to break it.
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 1m1 minute ago
Sounds like jury is at an impasse and Stephens will tell them to work harder. #JodiArias
REVISED ARIZONA JURY INSTRUCTIONS (CRIMINAL)
http://federalevidence.com/pdf/JuryInst/Ariz.StanCrimInstru.CumulSupp.pdf
Page 42: Impasse Instruction
This is offered to help you, not to force you to reach a verdict.
As jurors, you have a duty to discuss the case with one another and to deliberate in an effort to reach a just verdict. Each of you must decide the case for yourself, but only after you consider the evidence impartially with your fellow jurors. During your deliberations, you should not hesitate to re-examine your own views and change your opinion if you become convinced that it is wrong. However, you should not change your belief concerning the weight or effect of the evidence solely because of the opinions of your fellow jurors, or for the mere purpose of returning a verdict.
As always, THANKS. We needed to know this.
I think this may be just referred to as the “modified impasse instruction”. It may not mean they are going to modify it themselves.
The rest of the instruction:
You may wish to identify areas of agreement and disagreement and then discuss the law and the evidence as they relate to the areas of disagreement.
If you still disagree, you may wish to tell the attorneys and me which issues, questions, law or facts you would like us to assist you with. If you decide to follow these steps, please write down the issues where further assistance might help bring about a verdict and give the note to the bailiff. The attorneys and I will then discuss your note and try to help you.
I do not wish or intend to force a verdict. We are merely trying to be responsive to your apparent need for help. If it is possible that you could reach a verdict as a result of this procedure, you should consider doing so.
Please take a few minutes and discuss this instruction among yourselves. Then advise me in writing of whether we can attempt to assist you in the manner indicated above or whether you do not believe that such assistance and additional deliberation would assist you in reaching a verdict.
Oh My God, why do I feel like this Judge is trying to set up the jury! What are modified impasse instructions??? and why????
They did this last time. They had to go back and try… Didn’t work….and it’s not going to work this time.
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 34s34 seconds ago
Some #JodiArias friends and supporters are in court. No sign of her family.
😀
Maybe they are in a special room for protection.
MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 21s21 seconds ago
In AZ a second hung jury means a life sentence for #JodiArias — Death Penalty will come off the table #abc15
I don’t see how an Allen charge can be delivered in this case. The text of the standard Allen charge says:
“If you should fail to agree upon a verdict, the case will be left open and may have to be tried again. Obviously, another trial would only serve to increase the cost to both sides, and there is no reason to believe that the case can be tried again by either side any better or more exhaustively than it has been tried before you.
Any future jury must be selected in the same manner and from the same source as you were chosen, and there is no reason to believe that the case could ever be submitted to twelve men and women more conscientious, more impartial, or more competent to decide it, or that more or clearer evidence could be produced.”
But that is obviously not the case here.
So what gives with all this talk about an Allen charge?
hey al ltns welcome back
Haven’t been away – just didn’t have much to say.
How’s the twins??
perhaps the modification is the elimination of those two paragraphs?
Could be, but a hung jury here still leads to a valid and viable result – so there is no need for any sort of “dynamite” charge.
But who knows – everything else defies logic in this case so why stop now.
I see your point –
And your point give’s KN’s objections context.
I suspect JSS might only find context on planet kolob.
Al: This turn of events, this Allen clause, this atomic measure, keeps pointing backward and referring to: “the evidence that was presented.”
The catch here is that the Prosecutor and his goons lost, hid, destroyed, tampered with, lied about, misrepresented the “so called evidence” to the point where there is exactly zero reliable evidence on which to evaluate this capital case. Nothing can change any of that at this point.
When is current law that has been in place for decades going to be enforced to effect the arrest and removal of the cluster of unconvicted Fellons, perjurors, and cheaters who are truly running up the price of seeking justice, and ruining the lives of countless innocent citizens of this formerly great country?
Think about your twins. Can you tolerate having them subjected to the pain and heartache of loosing confidence in their future, and their prospects for their own children?
Sincerely,
Seabird
Seems to me that JSS doesn’t want this on her head but that is too bad she has yet another hung jury on an over charged case… deal with it!
Welcome Al, everyone has been looking for you! 🙂
You have some explaining to do there sir!!!!
Hey sis – it was just so much fun sitting back and watching all of you. But I figured I’d chime in now.
It’s really you?
see I thought it was just some other Al!
MWAH! good to see you sir!
Oh it’s me.
I knew you were here….:-)
Hey Al 🙂 we’ve missed you
And your music 😀
I refused to post after Cindy disparaged my choice in music so blame her.
Could use some Grateful Dead right about now XXOO
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 44s45 seconds ago
An impasse instruction, or dynamite charge in court lingo, asks jurors to try to reach a unanimous verdict. Not sure what “modified” means.
Cathy @courtchatter 40s41 seconds ago
The jury will be brought in. Judge Stephens did not address question #6. #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 37s37 seconds ago
I’ve noticed jurors have been taking breaks in groups today, not as one big group. Possibly a sign of the split? #JodiArias
I feel sick and am literally getting chills.
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 25s26 seconds ago
Hearing from @Steve_Irvin that #JodiArias’s mom just arrived at the courthouse.
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 30s31 seconds ago
#JodiArias mom is here now.
GOOD!
((((((((( SANDY ♥ ♥ )))))))))
Thank heavens 🙂
A second panel of jurors having troubkle reaching a verdict. WHAT is that telling us? This should HAVE NEVER EVER been a DP case!!
FFS!!!! WAKE UP AZ!
(((((Maria)))))
Ya think? 🙄 And they mention cost in the Allen Charge? Pfft
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 38s38 seconds ago
#JodiArias talking with Wilmott at the defense table. Not sure if she’s seen her mom yet.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 18s18 seconds ago
Jodi has been talking to Maria and Willmott this whole time #jodiarias #3tvarias
You are so right Maria!!!!!!
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 30s31 seconds ago
Last time around more time did not help a jury reach a verdict. What will happen this time? #JodiArias
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YMh8orMNqc
Reminds me of this old song…..
CanadaCarol, very appropriate 🙂
Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10
AZ law: Hung jury in penalty phase re-trial is an automatic life sentence. So a hung jury essentially is a verdict. #JodiArias
Am I mistaken, or do unanimity for life and a hung jury have exactly the same result in this case — namely, no DP? If so, there is no justification for an Allen charge. It would serve no purpose except to pressure a minority for life to embrace the DP instead. It can be of no value in pressuring a minority for death to embrace life instead. Therefore, it looks like a wholly one-sided gift to the state.
You got it Al
If the goal by the judge is to pressure the jurors —–it would make me stand my ground……but who knows…I bet there are bullies in there and that the bullies will be inspired by the modified instructions.
There are many bullies in the courthouse, guaranteed.
Mike Watkiss @mikewatkiss3tv 2m2 minutes ago
#jodiarias’s mom Sandy last main player to arrive #3tvarias
^^^Well she isn’t there 24/7 camping in the halls to harass the jurors! Sandy follows and respects the law!
Yes they certainly have the whole time!
The Arias family has shown respect to the law and the Alexanders. IMO.
Great comment, Pan.
MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 1m1 minute ago
In #JodiArias 2013 murder trial jury also hit an impasse– Judge sent them back w/add’l instructions 2 reach verdict – they hung #abc15
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer 8s9 seconds ago
I have never heard it so quiet in the #jodiarias court room.
No sobbing from the actors? ..c’mon
KN does NOT want the impasse charge read to the jury….the jurors might feel as if they must come back with a unanimous decision….
I have no idea what an Allen charge is, other tha what I read here ^^^^^^ (THANK you cyber family) but it seems to me that they’d do anything in that courtroom just to ensure Jodi gets the DP.
It’s sickening…..
Some states prohibit Allen charges, because they deem them coercive, but the U.S. Supreme Court upheld their use in Allen v. U.S., 164 U.S. 492 (1896).
Òf course, Arizona wouldn`t see them as coercive.
Of course…. 🙄
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 24s25 seconds ago
Remember if the jury is hung Judge Stephens will decide life or life w/possibility of parole after 25 yrs. #JodiArias
Well we all know what JSS will do don’t we?? and that is exactly the problem here…a biased judge !!!
Tammy Rose @News20Chopper 33s34 seconds ago
PIO says we can’t film. #JodiArias
Poor Tammy always wanting to profit from her DVDs. SMH
No comments. UGH!
William Pitts @william_pitts 20s20 seconds ago
Stephens is back. Jury’s coming in. #JodiArias
MC Superior Court @courtpio 13s13 seconds ago
Jurors are entering courtroom #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 9s9 seconds ago
Stephens addresses the jury. #JodiArias
William Pitts @william_pitts 14s14 seconds ago
jury’s here. Stephens is giving additional instructions based on their questions.
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 19s20 seconds ago
Says they’re getting additional instructions to help with deliberations. #JodiArias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 25s25 seconds ago
“Each juror has a duty to consult w/one another” #jodiarias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 32s32 seconds ago
“No juror should surrender his/her honest conviction solely bc of opinion of other jurors” #JodiArias
Elizabeth Erwin @elizabetherwin 32s33 seconds ago
Suggests they identify areas of agreement/disagreement and discuss the law and testimony/evidence. #JodiArias
New page up for this afternoon:
https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/jodi-arias-retrial-day-791-deliberations-continue-p2-justice-for-jodi-arias-team-jodi
SJ
Team Jodi #WINNING <<<
If I was one of the jurors, the instruction to keep trying would totally piss me off and make me stick to my guns!! Life for Jodi!\
I don’t even know if the Allen charge is legal for this 2nd try at death!! enough Arizona.. give it up