Jodi Arias Retrial, Day #38 (2/4)

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1. Have to go out today so I may not be around til late –
   tomorrow I might have to report for jury duty myself.

   Thinking of Jodi and team Jodi!

   • ♥ (((((((Journee)))))) ♥

   • Journee ♥ ♥ ♥ We’ll certainly miss you today girlfriend! Hope you get back for the afternoon session.

   • will miss you Journee

2. Hey everyone!

   Let’s hope that today Defense Team will set things straight with Totdoc.

   I will really enjoy Nurmi ‘ripping’ Totdoc a couple… And I hope he outs all her lies…

   ((((Jodi)))) ♥ ♥ ♥

   • I sure hope he does the cross….. I know people like JW more but he is really fired up to get at the truth….I sure would be intimidated by him… LOL Our gentle giant has turned into a big grizzly bear!!!!

   • I hope so too.
     (((JODI)))

3. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 3h 3 hours ago

   #jodiarias begins today at 9:15am MST. There’s a discussion about Detective Smith before trial begins

   • Is this the same Smith guy that just got done with testimony a week or two ago?

4. Good morning… ((R.Love, Journee, Pandora))

5. Rob Roman and Amanda Chen have exorcised their recent demons and return with a frank appraisal of Deborah Maran and Kristina Randle and some kind words for Jodi Arias supporters.
   https://spotlightonlaw.wordpress.com/zealots-minions-and-decepticons-in-the-jodi-arias-case-feb-3/

   • just read that.. these fake psychologists (Randle, DeMarte) with their egotistical stance , and nonsensical diagnoses, are profiting from Jodi by building their young careers at the expense of the truth and the justice system.

   • great article!! Jodi really does deserve the benefit of doubt, not just because the LAW requires it but because it is fair. People need to treat others how they would want to be treated and I am sure if they or a family member found themselves in trouble they would expect to have that benefit. I see people making posts that basically call for Jodi to be burned at the stake, really sad. I hope those who wish that never have other judge them as harshly.

   • Thanks (((((coldcase53)))))

6. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago

   #JuanMartinez is here and that’s about it. Hope we start on time today with no sidebars. #JodiArias

7. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago

   First up, a hearing regarding Mesa Detective Perry Smith’s testimony. #JodiArias

8. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 39s40 seconds ago

   #SkyHughes is in the house. #JodiArias

   • why is Sky Hughes there??? info for the cash book? or something hidden?

     • Maybe Chris is going to be a witness and she needs to collect intel to prepare him for his lying… just sayin’

       • Hope he does and then kurt can rip him a new one!

     • They really are writing a book?? I thought that was a very unfunny joke!

9. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 53s54 seconds ago

   Jen Willmott just walked in wearing a brown, power suit #JodiArias

10. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Juan’s here wearing a dark grey suit, gold and blue striped tie, cause he likes the stripes! #JuanTieReport #jodiarias

    • I know a striped suit that’s available in his size.

      • Ha! 😆

      • I have a roll of striped wallpaper that I could invent into his size.

      • LMAO good one Carol 😀

    • Oh Jen bend over and get it done with….

      • ROFLMBO!

11. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago

    Esteban Flores just walked in. #JodiArias

    • Is this the first time for Flores since the loss of his son?

12. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 33s33 seconds ago

    #JodiArias is here without her glasses and in dark clothing. Our first sidebar.

13. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 4s 5 seconds ago
    Starting out with a sidebar #jodiarias #3tvarias

14. Did you know there are 450,000 Mormons in Arizona out of a population of approx 6,876,000.

    And I suppose most of them have the hate factor towards Jodi.

    • Ugh…..

    • 4% in AZ – 60% in Utah – scary!

    • I’ve always wondered how many of the haters are Mormon. They lined up to be on HLN with their nasty gossip and mean remarks. It wouldn’t be much of a move to become a hater online. Maybe even organized within the church to attack Jodi.

      • I wondered that as well, how many of the Jodi haters are Mormon and if it is a church organized/fueled bandwagon…Hmmm wish there was a poll to find the answer to that.

15. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 15s16 seconds ago

    Jury is not present. Oral argument to preclude Detective Smith’s testimony underway. Jen Willmott is talking. #JodiArias

16. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 31s 32 seconds ago
    Oral argument on Detective Smith-
    Def provided an audio of Smith saying the report would take 2 weeks #jodiarias #3tvarias

17. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 25s 25 seconds ago
    Defense is saying Smith couldn’t answer any questions about the virus’s when they talked to him last #jodiarias #3tvarias

18. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 17s 17 seconds ago
    Smith didn’t have access to his computer when he was speaking with Def so he couldn’t answer a lot of their questions #jodiarias #3tvarias

19. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 32s 32 seconds ago
    Defense says they can’t cross at this time #jodiarias #3tvarias

20. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 13s 14 seconds ago
    Defense needs the report for John Smith to review #jodiarias #3tvarias

21. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 51s51 seconds ago

    Judge is grilling Willmott. She doesn’t want Smith to take stand unless a report she requested is provided. #JodiArias

22. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 21s22 seconds ago

    Martinez is up. #JodiArias

23. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 20s 20 seconds ago
    Defense says this case should come first for Det. Smith
    Juan says John Smith never provided a report to him #jodiarias #3tvarias

24. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago

    Smith said there was porn on the computer because Detective Brown told him there was. #JodiArias

    • Wtf…

25. Everyone take your toys and go home but Set Jodi Free first!!!!

26. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 50s 51 seconds ago
    Juan says if Defense says John Smith has a report why then did he not give it to the State? #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Is Jen confused? Is it that she does she not listen or that she does not process what she hears correctly? OR is it she chooses to hear what she wants to hear? (similar to answering questions in the “lying for the lord” fashion)

27. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 19s20 seconds ago

    Juan Martinez says that Mesa Det Smith has not started his written report on forensic analysis. #jodiarias defense team wants him precluded.

28. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 25s 26 seconds ago
    Judge says Det. Smith did say he could piece together something for the defense within weeks #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 34s34 seconds ago
    Judge Stephens grants #jodiarias defense team another interview with Smith.

29. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 56s 57 seconds ago
    Juan says the written report hasn’t even been started by Det. Smith #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 19s 20 seconds ago
    Judge wants an Encase report generated for the def. the defense can do a 2nd interview with him and ask him questions before he testifies

    • Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 23s23 seconds ago

      #jodiarias attys will get another chance to interview Mesa PD Det. Smith re: analysis of Travis Alexander’s laptop/porn.

    • What has he been doing??? Why hasn’t the written report been started? Olay Frog!

      • Had his head up frogs butt.

        • It must be getting crowded up there. 🙁

30. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 24s25 seconds ago

    One juror in chambers. Uh, oh. #JodiArias

31. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 28s 28 seconds ago
    Wilmt goes on and on about the issue after the Judge ruled. She wants to make sure Smith has his computer with him and she demands 2 reports

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 49s 50 seconds ago
      Judge says she won’t order Smith to do 2 reports because she doesn’t know all the issues. The 1 report from Encase is fine 4 now #jodiarias

32. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 46s47 seconds ago
    #jodiarias lawyers and judge need to meet with a juror in chambers.

    Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 35s36 seconds ago
    #jodiarias juror being questioned in chambers by judge and attys on both sides. #Fox10Phoenix

    • Now if they lose another one how many are left??

33. I’m not sure if I should laugh or be pissed off….I’m totally crazy now!!!!

    • Just sit back in your rocking chair and do your knitting Cindy while we watch time march on.
      Remember Arizona’s time zone is truly out in the Twilight Zone 19 planets past Mars. Too much botox, peroxide and lying going on in that state.

      • Darn R. I don’t have a rocker…knitting me? Stopy for another time…..I never light Twilight Zone.

        • I think you could go online and order a rocking chair. . . OH WAIT. . . stop….. someone might think you are looking at PORN!!!!! 🙄

34. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 29s29 seconds ago

    Everyone is coming out of chambers. #JodiArias

35. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 17s18 seconds ago

    Jury entering court #jodiarias #3tvarias

36. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 29s30 seconds ago
    No mention of the juror in chambers. Trial resuming. #JodiArias Dr. DeMarte on the stand.

    Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 25s25 seconds ago
    #jodiarias and counsel back from chambers. Jury seated. Witness Janeen DeMarte back on the witness stand. Martinez continues.

37. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
    Dr. DeMarte back on the stand. Martinez asks if she believes there was physical domestic violence between #jodiarias and Travis Alexander.

    Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 26s26 seconds ago
    DeMarte says she does not think there was domestic violence because the accounts are inconsistent. #jodiarias

38. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 30s 31 seconds ago
    DeMarte is now explaining why….the content from Jodi is different regarding the incidents. #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 46s46 seconds ago
    State expert Dr. DeMarte back on stand saying #jodiarias told different stories at different times to different people about abuse#3tvarias

39. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 45s 46 seconds ago
    Demarte- someone who has experienced these incidents of DV wouldn’t have different stories as to why it happened #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Yes, they would, they’d have different stories of each incident of abuse.

40. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 5s 5 seconds ago
    TA was never violent with any other women in his life according to records she reviewed & interviews conducted- DeMarte #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 17s17 seconds ago

      DeMarte says she sees no patterns of abuse, though occasionally it may “cross the line.” #jodiarias

    • LIE, LIE

41. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 42s 43 seconds ago
    Juan is going over the difference between verbal and physical abuse #jodiarias #3tvarias

42. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 6s 7 seconds ago
    Juan- Is it normal for couples to have verbal spats?
    DeMarte- Yes it’s very normal #jodiarias #3tvarias

43. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 6s 7 seconds ago
    Juan- Was there a pattern of verbal abuse with TA and JA?
    DeMarte- No #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • BS!!!!

    • It there wasn’t a pattern of verbal abuse by TA what was that in those texts over and over?

      • OH Judy that is just called inappropriate comments 😀 Which is A-OK with TotDoc.

        • Yeh right I forgot….”inappropriate comments”

    • JM using “pattern” to downplay verbal abuse. There was lots of verbal abuse but DeMarte says “no” to pattern of abuse. Hopefully, jurors catch on what the rabid dog is doing.

44. Seriously? Is martinez trying to downplay verbal abuse???? Just because someone can’t see the scars doesn’t meant they aren’t there idiot! But what would martinez know about that? He’s an abuser himself and has openly shown that in court every day!

    • Bingo!!!! Pandora….

    • Consider the source Pandora. SMH

    • Worse still, this ice witch goes along with him. Who would open up to the likes of her? She could interview me for 12222222 hours and I wouldn’t tell her anything.

45. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Juan- What is crossing the line?
    DeMarte- Name calling, threatening to harm them #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 53s 53 seconds ago
    DeMarte says in the May 26th exchange online TA crossed the line and was inappropriate to JA #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • It was abuse. Period.

46. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2m2 minutes ago
    Alexander was upset because #jodiarias was “intrusive and crossing boundaries” and had lied to him, DeMarte says.

47. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 32s 33 seconds ago
    In past interviews with psychologists Jodi says no DV abuse from her parents or verbal #jodiarias #3tvarias

48. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 22s 22 seconds ago
    #Jodiarias never said she saw her father use cocaine in any records to any psychologists #3tvarias

49. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 17s17 seconds ago

    Martinez asks DeMarte about whether #jodiarias mentioned drug abuse by parents, physical abuse as a child. DeMarte is Dr. No to all of it.

50. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 25s 25 seconds ago
    Jodi never said her mother used marijuana to any psychologists #jodiarias #3tvarias

51. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 46s 46 seconds ago
    DeMarte asked #jodiarias that specific question about substance abuse from a parent while pregnant with her and she responded NO #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 7s 7 seconds ago
    A note from Dr. Samuels file regarding sexual abuse as a child ….
    We have a sidebar #jodiarias #3tvarias

52. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 16s17 seconds ago

    Jurors look very alert when Dr. DeMarte is on the stand. She has their full attention. No ones asleep in the gallery either. lol #JodiArias

    • I should hope so. It’s only 10:17 am.

53. Trying to protect her parents…

    • Always.

54. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 19s19 seconds ago

    Dr. DeMarte is reading a quote from #JodiArias “Parents never physically or sexually abused me.”

55. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 41s41 seconds ago

    Martinez shows note from Dr. Samuels quoting #jodiarias as saying her parents never physically or sexually abused her.

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 18s 18 seconds ago
      Dr. Samuel’s noted on 12/09 Jodi said “parents never emotionally or physically abused me” she put a :/ face at end of quote #jodiarias

56. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 25s 26 seconds ago
    Juan wants to admit more into evidence and we have a sidebar #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • What did you find your laptop totdoc??

      • LOL “OK Frog, I’m leaving my side door open. . do not touch anything else but grab my laptop and please make copies of my notes for my future references they might just come in handy.” Blink Blink

        • Something very fishy going on here.. Everything was on her laptop.. Did she go and reinterview everyone?? What am I missing here??

          • Nothing, they have nothing but lies and they will continue to spin this crap into a giant lily pad where the Frog plans on gloating high above his followers. Blind brainless sheeple.
            I pray each one of this dimwits find themselves in the same situation that Jodi Arias has been in.

57. Perhaps she didn’t know it was abuse at that time.

    • I agree.. Jodi didn’t know that smoking pot equals abuse according to the psychologist? good grief..millions of people smoke pot and are not abusers.. if anything pot makes people mellow

      • I think I might need some if they do not get her off the stand. State’s Professional Expert TotDoc. SMH
        Make the lies STOP!!!! Their noses are going to be so long they could have a sword fight in that circus of a court room.

58. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 30s30 seconds ago

    exhibit 886 is admitted. #jodiarias

59. Just catching up today. I see Totdoc is still full of herself today. Can’t wait for JW to get a hold of her.

    • Hopefully sooner than later. Even reading what she says make my blood pressure rise.

60. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 22s23 seconds ago

    Ex 886: Interview with Zeyna Corronzo, childhood friends with #jodiarias.

    • Oh GMAFB already…..childhood?? Real relevant.

      • Glad you made it. . .I think they caught her picking her nose in kindergarten.

61. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 21s22 seconds ago

    ZC states: There was no abuse. Jodi could play the victim. #jodiarias

62. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 7s 8 seconds ago
    Almost all the jurors are taking notes except a few men in the back. #jodiarias #3tvarias

63. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 16s17 seconds ago

    exhibit 888 is admitted. #jodiarias

64. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 23s24 seconds ago
    ex 888: Interview with Aimee Lantz, #jodiarias cousin.

    Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 9s9 seconds ago
    “Aimee knows of no physical abuse or sexual abuse to #jodiarias or siblings.”

    • Who are these people?
      How could they possibly be ‘witnesses’ if they didn’t live in the house Jodi lived in?

    • OMG,really?? Victims don’t go around telling people for goodness sakes.

      • Absolutely not! A real Doctor would know that.

65. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 15s15 seconds ago

    DeMarte now telling jurors of comments from #jodiarias’s cousin who said no abuse in Arias house-“kids were always spoiled”

    • How does the cousin know? Was she living in the Arias house? Was she there visiting 24/7? How can people know what happens behind closed doors? Even if they’re related?

      • Right Pandora…this is clearly defamation.

    • cousin is jealous

      • Patty I agree!!!

      • I believe it was taken out of context. . .but if not she should be ashamed.

    • Is this the same cousin who said Jodi was a snob?

66. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 17s17 seconds ago

    Martinez: Is there a psychological significance to keeping a sexual relationship secret? DeMarte: No, it’s normal.

    • Someone should take away her licence now – she is not fit to practice.

      • Crazy b*tch….

    • In what context? not in bf/gf.. maybe if your an adulterer..hey JM

67. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 59s 60 seconds ago
    Geffner and Fonseca said TA made his sexual relationship with JA a secret..do you agree? #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 11s 12 seconds ago
    DeMarte- Neither one let anyone know about the sexual relationship #jodiarias #3tvarias

    ^^^becaue Jodi was NOT allowed to tell anyone!

68. I would like to ask Dr. TotDoc if she is a carrying a Temple Recommend Card in her purse?

69. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 27s28 seconds ago

    #jodiarias appears to be writing something at defense table, she’s not wearing her glasses right now.

70. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Juan- Is this typical to not talk about your sex life with others?
    DeMarte- It’s typical and normal #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 59s 60 seconds ago
    Juan- Do you feel keeping the sex a secret manipulative on TA’s part?
    DeMarte- No I don’t agree with that #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 52s 53 seconds ago
    Juan- Are you aware Fon put significance on the fact that TA didn’t report his sexual relationship w/ JA to the Bishop?
    SIdebar #jodiarias

    • Of course he didn’t report it… 🙄

    • But JM that is significant he is going against the law of chastity and is supposed to report it when he does.

71. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2m2 minutes ago
    Martinez says Geffner placed significance on Alexander not telling bishop about sex. Nurmi objects that he misstates testimony. Sidebar.

    Monica Lindstrom ‏@monicalindstrom 2m2 minutes ago
    JSS says approach-Willmott gives a big sigh…the attorneys as well as the jurors will have PTSD when they hear “approach please” #jodiarias

72. MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 1m1 minute ago

    Dr. DeMarte says #TravisAlexander didn’t talk about sex w/ #JodiArias bc “People don’t walk around announcing they’re having sex” #abc15

73. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 50s51 seconds ago

    Dr. DeMarte:not significant TA didn’t tell bishop about sex with #jodiarias. Normal to cover up sex.Contradicts defense expert Dr. Fonseca.

    • 🙄

    • Normal does not equal right! Especially when the person knows they will be punished if it were to come out……The Bishop stated that lying to him is like lying to God! Omission is still lying to me.

74. MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 45s46 seconds ago

    #JuanMartinez now asking if people said #JodiArias was secretive — DeMarte answers “Yes” #TravisAlexander #abc15

    • I’m secretive,so what??

      • Shhh don’t tell anyone TotDoc will have you committed. 😀

75. Word games…he didn’t just keep the sexual aspects secret. He kept the whole relationship secret. Just how normal is that, you arrogant little bitch?

    • She has REAL issues. SMH

76. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 40s 40 seconds ago
    DeMarte- If someone doesn’t reveal their sexual relationship it doesn’t mean they r manipulative. U don’t have to share this info with any1

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 47s 48 seconds ago
    Juan- Would you call this person a Dr.Jekyll and Mr. Hyde type of person
    DeMarte- No and I don’t see the connection #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Then OPEN your frickin eyes Dr. Dumbass

    • Really??? 😆 Send in the Clowns, oh wait they are here…….

77. If the jury believes this nonsense they are equally nonsensical.

    • This is pathetic, to say the least.

78. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 40s40 seconds ago
    Exhibit 891 admitted. #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 49s 49 seconds ago
    Interview with Julie Arias #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 50s 51 seconds ago
    Sandy and Bill would always say Jodi never wanted them to know anything about her – Julie #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 21s 22 seconds ago
    Juan is pointing out Jodi’s secretiveness #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 1m1 minute ago

      Interview with Julie Arias, #jodiarias half-sister. “Sandy and Bill would always say Jodi didn’t want them to know anything about her”

    • cant wait for X ..this little idiot is going down

    • OMG….what teen does?

    • OMFG! martinez thinks that children – ESPECIALLY TEENS – are going to be chatting w/their parents about their lives???? martinez might’ve due to the fact that no other child wanted to be his friend but Jodi had friends and siblings…

      • A bet the Cashes kids have to spill their guts to their “Mom” all the time nosy busy body.

79. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 55s 55 seconds ago
    Nurmi wants to approach #jodiarias #3tvarias

80. How many people when they were young confided in their parents?

    • Not Me! Never!

      • Not me either!! SMH disgustedly!

        • nope..

    • No one I know….

      • Me either

81. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 24s24 seconds ago

    Dr. DeMarte:#jodiarias has borderline personality disorder. #Fox10Phoenix

    • No problem with that but let’s add the rest to that list…..

    • Lets get Totdoc to take that literacy test……..

      • and a liar liar pants of fire test she lies by ommision

      • Without notes!!!!!! 😆

    • I believe we would like a Professional’s Opinion, thank you anyway Dr. TotDoc, you may go now. Oh wait, we have had that, how many years experience??? 30 to 40 years???

82. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 14s15 seconds ago

    DeMarte reads from interview with #jodiarias’ sister Julie, who says she was very secretive

    • Secretive – who cares!!

    • Poor Julie……

83. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    This piece of evidence describes Jodi as being a secretive person in general #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 26s 27 seconds ago
    Julie Arias-
    #Jodiarias was very secretive I knew very little about her life and relationships #3tvarias

    • Why is it that women are so anxious to put other women down?
      Jealousy…
      Resentment…
      Insecurity…

      • I don’t know but it is really disturbing. I wouldn’t consider them women at all. Shall we go back to the Mormon faith and study their treatment through out their history?

        • It is well documented that women are only important for one reason: they can increase the number of Mormons. Their wombs give them viability.

          • Nothing like those Spirit Children from Kolob.

84. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 48s49 seconds ago

    Wanna bet? Over/under on number of #jodiarias sidebars today. 16 is bet line. We’re at 7 so far. Peeps, thoughts?

    • So are they at the Horse Races now? Send in the Professional Journalists too!

85. Now tell me why that might be Dr.??

86. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Demarte is showing the flip side to what Fonseca has told this jury #jodiarias #3tvarias

    ^^^ And who are they going to believe a woman w/over 30 yrs of experience or this shit that has no experience whatsoever?

87. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 42s 42 seconds ago
    Interview with Zenya the childhood friend #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 19s 20 seconds ago
    Jodi is very private and selective about what she says and changes her personality to what fits the person at the time #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Another childhood friend……………is that all you got Totdoc??

    • So that makes her a people pleaser, trying to please everyone else but herself.

88. Quick ? So now the DT can bring in these people to testify can’t they?

    • yes

89. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago

    Martinez asks DeMarte if Alexander was officially dating anyone while he was texting 12 women at once. She says he was not. #jodiarias

    • She is full of knowledge isn’t she. Maybe she knew Travis too. Pull out the Flow Chart of Travis Sex Life.

      • SMH….

90. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 43s 43 seconds ago
    DeMarte says this is part of Borderline Personality
    Juan is asking DeMarte about the graph Geff made about TA texting women #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 46s 47 seconds ago
    DeMarte says she hasn’t seen or heard this
    Juan tells her to assume….he asks DeMarte is TA was dating someone exclusively #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 16s 17 seconds ago
    DeMarte says no and being a single man talking to these women is not manipulative #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • single man with 12 women on the line isn’t manipulative? wow

      • Right? Wtf? I wonder if Totdoc was in that list and found out how she would feel? Honored? 🙄

      • 13 maybe 12 OH NO.

      • this b*tch is the crazy one…………SMH

    • Men at JAII:
      Do you or any of your friends date 12 women at once?

      • Never. Every time I tried to date 2 women it blew up and I ended up with none. I say every time ’cause I was like ever other neanderthal, thickheaded. I learned early that having cake and eating it too is a sure fire way to starvation.

        • ;=) :=) :=D

          (((johnm)))

        • ((((johnm))))) 🙂

    • How she is being so short-sighted with her career if she is so brilliant? This testimony will follow her for the rest of her forensic career, if she has one after this …. She will be stuck in one courtroom, kissing froggie’s bottom.

    • WTF…. if that isn’t manipulative then she’s needs her head examined. Worse psychologist in AZ…. and maybe even across the country.

91. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 14s 14 seconds ago
    DeMarte is explaining Borderline Personality to jury and we have a 10 min recess #jodiarias #3tvarias

92. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 3m3 minutes ago
    Martinez: Is it manipulative to be corresponding with 12 women at once? DeMarte says no. #jodiarias

    Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 2m2 minutes ago
    A few jurors taking notes. #jodiarias

    Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
    DeMarte: Borderlines have general instability in their life, their identity, their behavior. #jodiarias

    • And Dr. is this not a mental illness???

93. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 3m3 minutes ago

    Judge calls morning recess – 10mins #jodiarias

94. This dumb b is playing right into the DT hands.

    • OMG – she is stupidity at its finest. Just saying……….

95. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 7m 7 minutes ago
    #Jodiarias is really talking with Willmott…probably does’t like how this morning is going #3tvarias

    • She is a frightful mess, this Jen gal, who twits with bias.

      • Her bias has become more extreme as the trial has progressed.

    • No she doesn’t like how her family is being used to give her the DP, Scoopy.
      Are you really that CRAZY & HEARTLESS JEN??? You are one sick trashy excuse for a woman.

96. There is something definitely wrong with that woman. She seems so icy cold and so cut off from human feelings. And she has this uncompromising and unwavering black and white view of the world, no gray areas allowed. The best example of this is her belief that if someone is in fight-or-flight mode they can’t have conflicting feelings like “I want to stop him from attacking me but I don’t want to hurt him.” This she says just doesn’t happen, that it’s not logical. It just shows how ignorant she is in her own field and just how out of touch with real human emotions. I want to ask her how many times she has had to defend her life from someone she loved that makes her such an expert? Or in what text book (or any other book) it says those feelings can’t exist simultaneously? She has no real life experiences, just a lot of book learning that simply nurtured her arrogance, and she dares to tell us how people think or feel under extreme stress? What a friggin’ joke she is!

    • YES YES Justus!!! I Agree with You!!! She is a CLOWN! ^ @ ^

      • ^ eyebrows
        @ big red nose 😀

    • demarte seems to be a misogyny.

    • ‘…no real life experiences…’ 😀

      I agree with all you have said so eloquently.

      Repeat, again and again:
      ‘What a friggin’ joke she is!’

    • I agree, Justus. You are right on

    • Extremely well expressed.
      DeMarte only thinks in terms of black and white; that shows tremendous lack of capacity for insight.
      Domestic violence involves people who don’ t want to hurt the abuser even if their lives are in danger, and even if faced with the imminent possibility of being killed.
      I hope domestic abuse experts will speak out against this very ignorant woman.
      De Marte has no right to claim expertise in this subject.

    • She picked the worst possible field for her black and white thinking. She would have been better to become a radiologist.

97. There is now way in hell she can come up with PDO in only how many interviews?? She is a witch doctor!!

    • (((((Justus))))

    • VooDoo Tot Doc

98. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 52s 52 seconds ago
    Jury is back #jodiarias #3tvarias

99. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 29s 30 seconds ago
    Juan just had his paralegal deliver some goods on Jodi I assume….it was a stack of paperwork #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Jen, did you just wet your panties a bit? You sound so excited! Relax girl!

    • Pre kindergarten stuff?

      • Could be the notes from set smith.

        • How, he hadn’t started them?

100. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 27s27 seconds ago

     8 sidebars. Halfway home. #jodiarias

101. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 29s 30 seconds ago
     Juan- With regards to Bobby Juarez, do you know Jodi kept that relationship a secret?
     DeMarte- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

102. How is that possible? She had posted pics of them together on social media…

     • Magic Powers.

103. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
     Nurmi is objecting like crazy #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 54s 55 seconds ago
     Juan hands DeMarte an interview of Sandy and Bill and re asks question and DeMarte says Yes this was a secret…#jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 20s 21 seconds ago
     DeMarte says Jodi had a fear of abandonment and being alone. #jodiarias #3tvarias

     • Fear of abandonment? Really!! Yet she moves to new places, works to support herself.

       I’d say she has a lot of self confidence and self worth! :=)

104. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 50s 51 seconds ago
     Jodi engaged in behaviors to pull people toward her and how she did it pushed people away and created conflict-DeMarte #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 19s 20 seconds ago
     We are looking at a text between Michelle and TA #jodiarias #3tvarias

105. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 19s20 seconds ago

     DeMarte says “fear of abandonment” is part of “borderline personality disorder” #jodiarias #3tvarias

106. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 52s 52 seconds ago
     Well Nurmi wants an approach #jodiarias #3tvarias

107. So apparently if Travis kept his relationships secret that was normal but for Jodi it’s an indication of BPD. WTF???

     • Hang on J. this is good for the DT….

       • I know…I can hardly wait…

     • I wish there was “Like” button this page.

108. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago

     Sidebar #9. #jodiarias

     • Is that all he is doing? Reporting sidebar count? Or does he tweet other things as well? Just wondering.

109. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 31s31 seconds ago

     Dr. DeMarte read both text messages from #JodiArias and #TravisAlexander. Evidence being admitted.

110. Fear of abandonment…sounds like Travis.

111. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 36s36 seconds ago
     Martinez shows DeMarte a text between Alexander and Michelle LAury talking about #jodiarias spying on Alexander.

     Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 15s15 seconds ago
     An Alexander text says he doesn’t know if #jodiarias slashed his tires but she watched him make out twice.

     Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 45s45 seconds ago
     DeMarte concludes that it comes out of #jodiarias’ fear of abandonment.

112. Once again Juan’s “zealous advocacy” has a chance to bite him. He’s portraying all this “secrecy”…..which could go to support the possibility that Jodi has kept secrets about what may have happened that day…..and that it’s natural that Jodi hasn’t told anyone the whole truth, yet. But maybe …..one day….she will. I always go back to the interrogation video where she say to Flores….”you have no idea”……I see no logical reason for her to have said that if it weren’t true.

     • (((Sandra)))

113. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 27s27 seconds ago
     DeMarte calls it continuous pursuit. #jodiarias

     Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
     Dr. DeMarte:#jodiarias had extreme fear of abandonment, so came on too strong to men, driving them away.

     • 🙄

     • ¿seriously? I think the men were all over her and she had to disregard some.

114. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 14s15 seconds ago

     DeMarte repeats the story of Alexander being home with Lisa Andrews when he notices a light go out. When he checks, it’s #jodiarias.

115. I’m expecting one or both of them to sprout horns at any moment….

116. Monica Lindstrom ‏@monicalindstrom 59s59 seconds ago

     Zach Billings: TA #JodiArias would argue about JA showing up at the house unannounced

     • And TA denied inviting her…unannounced to roomates, invited by TA.

117. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 42s42 seconds ago
     The detective asked the roommate how #JodiArias got in. He said she just let herself in.

     Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 16s16 seconds ago
     #jodiarias stalked Travis in months before murder, says Dr. DeMarte

     • Is she testifying for Martinez….these are HIS words..

118. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 37s38 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ

     He knew they had issues and argued about Jodi showing up in his house and had arguments about her moving back to Mesa. – billings #jodiarias

119. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
     Jodi called at inappropriate times, asked advise, and Jodi would just always let herself in the house. – Billings #jodiarias #3tvaris

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 22s 22 seconds ago
     TA was trying to help Jodi out since she didn’t have anyone else. – Billings #Jodiarias #3tvarias

     en’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
     TA said he had an argument with Jodi and she showed up at his house with a Uhaul when she was leaving- billings #jodiarias #3tvarias

     • You can NOT believe anything this guy says….is he under oath and under penalty of perjury when making those statements? No. He is not credible and has changed his story many times about the day of the killing and where he was and his timeline in and out of the house….

120. Okay just caught up. The men on this jury if you check are probably not taking notes bc as men they know how men operate and to be texting/sexting with 12 different women at the same time they know is underhanded and manipulative to say the least so I am glad that there are men on this jury…..as far as Demarte goes she is being used as a vehicle for all this prejudicial info to come in but this is huge error during mitigation phase and I guess JSS is just too STUPID to know it…..Jodi did not pursue TA it was the other way around….she left and went back to CA so if she was so obsessed she never would have done that and who was it that was upset and jealous when Jodi was contemplating seeing other men ? TA that’s who was jealous….and who insisted she visit him in AZ before she went to Utah??? TA, that’s who….Hopefully someone on the jury has a brain……

     • BB so now the DT can subpoena everyone that JM has brought up through totdoc?

       • They do have that right but JM would fight them on that and at this point I think that KN and JW are going to file motion to exclude testimony regarding these witnesses as being prejudicial and character assassination which it definitely is as well as being hearsay…….Most of these so called witnesses that were merely “interviewed” and not put under oath are out of state and so this would also be very difficult to get them here to testify as well….

         • Thanks BB….

     • I think they are allowed to bring in hearsay info when it is used in making a diagnosis,acccording to Rule 803 on Cornell Law site, that is probably the law she was looking up the other day, the same way the defense used MM affadavit.

121. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 56s 57 seconds ago
     DeMarte calls this a pursuit by Jodi and desire to be connected to TA #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 30s 31 seconds ago
     Next an interview with Tayor Surley (sp) #jodiarias #3tvaris

     • Jodi would correct it to be Searle. You didn’t learn that in the broom closet?

     • I’d subpenona each of those roommates.

       • We could be here till next summer the way frog is throwing stuff in.

       • Absolutely! What DeMarte is testifying to is directly out of the Flores Report.

         (trying again) ;= :=) :=D

         • let me try it this way
           ;=)
           :=)
           :=D

           • : D 😀

122. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 26s26 seconds ago

     Side bar Number 10 #jodiarias #3tvarias

123. All these interviews are hearsay and unless these so called witnesses are willing to come to court or to give a sworn affidavit then NOTHING THEY HAVE TO SAY IS RELEVANT, PERIOD !!!

124. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 50s 51 seconds ago
     The jury is really alert right now watching DeMarte and Juan #jodiarias #3tvarias

     • Little do they know they will not have Spring vacations.

       • 😉

125. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 39s40 seconds ago

     Another long sidebar. Almost lunchtime.

126. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 36s36 seconds ago
     DeMarte looking at copy of text messages between #jodiarias and TA regardinga diamond ring that was missing.

     Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 31s31 seconds ago
     11 sidebars. #jodiarias

127. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 11s11 seconds ago

     DeMArte reads a text between Alexander and #jodiarias referencing a stolen diamond ring. Nurmi objects. Stephens says to disregard remark.

128. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 10s10 seconds ago

     Nurmi stands and says “She made a false assertion against my client.” Stephens again tells the jury to disregard. #jodiarias

     • This woman has no ethics. That is why she doesn’t know you are to be reported for not following them. How does everyone get away with this down there?

       • Not everyone gets away with this unless they have a powerful money grubbing faith supporting them.

129. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 36s37 seconds ago

     DeMarte says Jodi stole a diamond ring-defense objects-Judge says disregard-Nurmi says DeM made false accusation-it’s flying now #jodiarias

130. So many motions to file……….keep making your record, KN !!

131. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 48s48 seconds ago

     Martinez has DeMarte read the text from Alexander asking where the ring is. Arias replies that she has it, don’t worry. He says he’s not mad

132. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 41s41 seconds ago

     DeMarte says she took it without his consent. Nurmi objects loudly. Sidebar. #jodiarias

133. Demarte may have just sealed this case as a mistrial with that statement about Jodi supposedly stealing a diamond ring………

     • Why doesn’t he call mistrial then?

134. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 21s22 seconds ago

     Sidebar. Nurmi wants to make sure the word stolen or taken the ring without #TravisAlexander’s permission is not used. #JodiArias

135. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 35s35 seconds ago

     TA in text says he’s not mad. “It’s cool” #jodiarias

136. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 14s14 seconds ago

     13 #jodiarias

     (sidebar)

137. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 28s29 seconds ago

     When DeMarte says #Jodiarias “got caught,” Nurmi asks for another sidebar.

138. Damage is done with Demarte blurting out in front of the jury that Jodi stole the ring……mistrial !

     • I posted yesterday she would do that. She did it at first trial stage also. Then will come the other things I mentioned…Christmas tree, etc. etc. she has already got the tire slashing and stalking in. Amazing what people are eager and willing to do to kill another human being. A Doctor, no less.

       • And I am sure JM gave her a list of unproven things to slip into her testimony, just like at the first trial stage. Her entire testimony is hearsay and should be completely stricken.

139. Keep it up Demarte you are assuring a mistrial….

     • Does KN have to file a motion?

140. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 38s39 seconds ago

     That’s lunchtime for the #jodiarias jury.

     • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 58s 59 seconds ago
       Noon recess be back at 1:30pm MST!

141. File the motion to mistrial, KN……

     • LOL BB. I just asked that!!!

142. It’s official:

     demarte is the female version of juan martinez! Lies, lies, lies… oh, let’s not forget: corrupt, biased and clueless…

     • The are both dumb as the rock he sits on.

143. Seems like the prosecution can say anything and we have yet to see a mistrial!

     • JSS will never allow a mistrial, however, KN continues to make a record of the errors and will most likely file more motions based off Demarte’s testimony……

       • Geez he must have these motions all typed up and is all he has to do is fill in the blanks.

     • Don t know why I tend to always agree with you, Judy. We think along the same line.
       I have never seen a trial like this, everything is let in. There is no evidence that Jodi stole a ring,
       there is no evidence that Jodi stole a gun, but inference is allowed. This is not fair.

       TA would have to reappear before they would consider having a mistrial.The judge, prosecutor and
       state are in it together. They cannot afford to lose this case. They did get a guilty verdict but
       that isn t good enough for them.

144. She is just a mule for JM to carry in all the prejudicial info to the jury….She has NO EXPERIENCE…..relatively speaking…..in fact I would guess she has very little life experience except in school……

     • Absolutely BB

145. she is well on her way to being a hired gun for the state

     • You mean hired pea shooter…..LOL !

     • She obviously didn’t become a doctor because she wanted to help and serve humanity. She just wants to line her pockets with froggie cash by agreeing with whatever outlandish things he comes up with. That’s the only thing that she is – $300 an hr hired gun.

146. I hope at some point we will get to mitigation

147. Now can we ask were she is getting her info from if her laptop was taken???

     • …or misplaced…or ‘borrowed’ by the prosecutor…

       • OK peeps put your thinking caps on. Why did JM get rid of Dr. Karp??

         • I would hazard a guess that Dr. Karp would not go against her ethics for the prosecution.

           • I was thinking that also.. Journee where are you when I need you??????

           • Agreed. She couldn’t be bought….

     • I think Martinez arranged the stealing of the laptop so as to get into the notes. I mean no-one broke in to steal it, or so I heard, so it must have walked up to Martinez’s front door.

       • Oh wow that’s what happened..geez I wondered.

       • Police could not find forced entry, nothing else of value was taken. Valuable jewelry and cash were in plain sight.

       • Perhaps she left it with Martinez and reported it stolen…?

         • We will never truly know will we Dorothy? I certainly do not trust that it was stolen from her home office especially when Dr, Samuels asked Martinez where he got the questions and the copyrighted materials that he put into evidence. Dr. Geffner also asked him where he got certain things that were copyrighted. Martinez gave no answer.

           • I honestly think he has been reported

148. You know, she charges $130 to $200 a session…& then has a sliding scale…well even…if she slid it to zero… it would be too much.

     • Oh how I wish I could have my son go see her. LOL. You would have to know him to understand.

     • jojnjo Demarte stated during the original trial that she got 300 dollars per hour for doing this.

       • I think jojnjo was talking about her clients…
         So what’s the tally so far for the BS she is trying to pass off???

         • Seven Feet Deep and getting deeper…..
           And NO CINDY that is not your snow depth!

           • (R). LOL and we are getting more this weekend…..

             • ♥ 🙁 ♥

       • Well…seeing that maybe no-one is going to see her; she must have since discounted, as I got that info…from her therapist page.

         • Oh she charges differently for in office sessions than she does for court appearances jojnjo

         • Omg she really did charge that? I thought that was for court… Daaaa

         • Court is $300 and she charges her patients differently if they have insurance or not, and she doesn’t slide her scale like ALV does to patients that really can’t afford it. There is nothing at all admirable about this hired pistol.

           • She will be on the stand for quiet a while.
             The defense better grill her until she’s ‘well-done’…….she’ll come out with a pocket full of bills.

149. Is there any way that the DT can get JSS reclused?

     • I asked BB that question and he said it was really hard to do…

       BB is that right?????

       • That is correct. Next to impossible…

     • JS & Martinez are a team, the “B Team”!

150. R. Love feel like a broom trip????

     • Cindy there are times one wishes they were proficient in black magic LOL

       • Hummm now would be one of those times…

     • Yes, darn, you caught me stirring my cauldron of black tar. . .it’s bubbling HOT and ready for the long haul to AZ we will pluck some geese on the way. TotDoc and Spineless will both have new hairdos when we are done with our mission. Cackling giggle… SHAME ON ALL OF THEM!!!!

       • I sometimes think that I’m getting the life sucked out of me. I really wounded how she grew up. I wounder if she was ever hugged.
         Something very wrong with that girl…

151. According to studies, many more women than men are diagnosed with BPD because it upholds stereotypes about women.

     • Researching the topic (for current book) I’ve read that the mental health community are inclined to believe that there isn’t as much gender gap as the diagnosis stats would lead us to believe – that men are more likely to treat their symptoms with substance abuse (and are more likely to be treated for THAT if they seek help at all) and are more likely to commit suicide before seeking help.

       A few other disparities in the way the disorder presents in men as well, but since the BPD subject in my book IS a female, I didn’t commit those to memory.

       • Also a good psychologist isn’t so quick to label a person with a ” mental illness” or ” disorder”…. This quack nut case TOTDOC only spent 17 hours with Jodi, and mostly doing test.

152. Once again… Distraught. Frustrated. Outraged!! Bless sweet heart Jodi. I didn’t know Demarteted or whatever her name is, knew TA? How in the holy F@$K can she say how much she “knows” his thoughts feeling and intentions?!?!… Was it an online psych course that made her this full of herself? I’m so mad!!! Sorry guys.

     • No need to apologize, we agree with you. Pitiful.

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