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With Kermit’s corruption, misconduct, coerced perjury & evidence tampering activities still “under advisement”… welcome to the first trial day of 2015!
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WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS in our quest for JUSTICE FOR JODI.
Never question it.
Never doubt it.
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Good morning and happy Monday, peeps!
With Jodi back in court today, we can only speculate what else the State has done to prevent Jodi a fair trial. Got a hunch that we’ll be seeing more evidence tampering by the prosecution, more perjury and absolutely more clown acts by Kermit.
In the meantime, take a look at the newest additions at the Jodi Arias Art Gallery: 3 new exclusive photographic reprints now available (25MPH, NAPTIME, CACTUS IN THE SNOW). http://jodiarias.com/jodi-arias-art-gallery/
Remember, WE ARE TEAM JODI – AND WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS in our quest for JUSTICE FOR JODI.
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♥♥♥Good Morning TEAM JODI! Praying for Jodi, her family and Jodi’s Defense Team!!!!! ♥♥♥
Good morning TEAM JODI!!!!!!!!!!
Loved the new photo reprints! ♥ ♥ ♥
Good morning! Happy Monday! Let’s all keep Jodi in our thoughts and prayers today as she goes back to court. Things are looking a little bit better for Jodi and the defense team, but the fight isn’t over yet. I am sure that with everything that has come to light in the past few of weeks Jodi will be home with her family by the end of this year.
We will not quit
We will not fail
We will be victorious
(((((JODI))))) ♥ ♥
Ray in H-burg Va.
ALWAYS praying for Jodi!
((((( Ray )))))) ♥
Praying for Jodi’s FREEDOM! ♥ We will not Quit, We will not fail and We will be Victorious! #Winning !!
♥ The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
Good morning, all. Back in business. *Team Jodi forever*
Good morning all! Back to business and ready to fight! (((Team Jodi)))
Good morning!!! Well a tad bit of a chill in the air this morning but a warm 68 to end the day. Just happy our girl will be able to get out of that cell.
Praying for the DT, Jodi and her family.
Needless to say that was Masa’s weather. Here in Mi. we are enjoying a warm 8 degrees…..
Brrrrrrr Cindy! Stay warm. Might have to chop some ice to get to the frog today! 🙂
Oh I’m very sure he will get my blood boiling before long… 🙄
It’s been snowy, windy and rainy in this part of the world 😉 Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Are you sure your not in Mich.???? Stay warm..
Jodi Arias: An Argument for Reasonable Doubt
http://justice4jodi.wikispaces.com
FYI: We’ve had over 6500 visitors to the site (with generally a good spike when I post it here).
That’s great, Justus!
Unfortunately, only about one in ten actually read beyond a few pages. The rest apparently only read things that confirm what they already believe.
We can lead the horse to water but you can’t make him drink! At least they know where they may find the truth!!!
Proud, proud, proud of our Justus 😀 😀 😀
Actually Justus, your site is what sealed the deal for me. I thought there was something “off” when I watched the Dateline on the case, so I found this site. I then got a link to your wikispace page and spent the night reading it. The facts on that site proved to me that Jodi was innocent without a shadow of a doubt.
That’s so encouraging, Lynn. I’ve often wondered if I was just “preaching to the choir” and it’s great to know that it has indeed made some difference.
See Justus, told you so!!!!! You are awesome!!!!
Yes, R. You did tell me. And thank you so much for all your encouragement.
Well, I had an open mind. That’s my nature. 🙂 I mean, I think Ted Bundy did horrific things, but would I have condemned him to death? No.
Most of the haters are black and white thinkers with few critical thinking skills. So, once the media spoonfed them the “Jodi is evil” message they then turned off their brain. I recently saw pictures of a lady with a hater page who attended a candle-lit vigil for TA, for example. This is despite the recent revelations regarding TA’s child porn habit and even *all* the violent texts and emails we saw during the first trial. How could she think of him as a saint after reading those? It boggles my mind. It’s also a wee bit scary, as it means the haters think emotional abuse is acceptable. That doesn’t bode well for any of their relationships either.
You should be very proud of all your hard work!!!! We are PROUD OF YOU! (((((JUSTUS)))))♥
Awesomeness!
Thank you everyone for your kind and loving words.
Thanks Justice Forusall,
I bookmarked that…I could be there for days 🙂
St. Jodi of Arias
https://twitter.com/MalachyHasRisen/status/552122804343410691/photo/1
That is a very cool picture of Jodi.
Loved it. . .would be fun to wear that to court! 😉
R. Love, I was thinking the same thing… 😉
Magnificent artistic presentation to the world of St. Jodi of Arias, a living Saint, in our time.
…And, who will live on, in her exoneration and freedom, for the next hundred years or so, until God himself calls her to join St Joan of Arc, with her 8,000+ loyal Spiritual French soldiers, who stand guard at the Gates of Heaven, assisting St Peter, and escorting vindictive Mormons and others hypocrites, elsewhere.
Another chilly morning in AZ. No doubt kermit has some ugly tricks up his sleeve, but he is no match for Dr. G in the intelligence department. Frog legs for lunch….
(((Jodi & Dr. G & Nurmi & Jen & Maria)))
Giggling 😀
Last 4 on Md. Death Row to Have Sentences Commuted
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/md-death-row-sentences-commuted-27924634
Ha! 😆
Praying Michael Keiffer will be in the house!!!! Scoopy and her immature cohorts are early and eagerly waiting. SMH
So am I.
They have me so annoyed already. They act like they haven’t graduated kindergarten yet.
Maybe Kindergarten in Reform School. 🙁
HE is BACK!!!!
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 5m5 minutes ago
David Bodney is here about the secret testimony transcript #jodiarias
Who’s in these photos?
JackieH @Hawaiianstyle4 · 4m4 minutes ago
@TrialDiariesJ Bueno!
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 27m 27 minutes ago
Nurmi is here! We are the early birds today #jodiarias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 7m 7 minutes ago
Willmott made it #jodiarias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 4m 4 minutes ago
David Bodney is here about the secret testimony transcript #jodiarias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
Juan is here in a dark grey suit and burgundy tie…he just handed a motion to Bob (the guy that sits next to him) #JuanTieReport
You know that guy that is babysitting him because he can’t behave himself in a courtoom – that guy scoopy.
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago
Back in courtroom 5C after a Jodi-free month. Judge Sherry Stephens is trying to get through her morning calendar.
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 30s 31 seconds ago
Arizona Republic media attorney David Bodney is here, which suggests they will be discussing the release of #JodiArias secret testimony.
Praying that the Frog will fall flat on his face, that Stephens will make an even bigger fool of herself, that Mickael Kiefer will be there and that the odds will be in favor of our girl!!!
Amen!!
🙂
AMEN AGAIN!
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 47s 47 seconds ago
Court is late so we are waiting still #jodiarias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 7s 8 seconds ago
Places everyone.
Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 2m 2 minutes ago
State v. #JodiArias is back in session this morning starting w/hearing to release transcript of her testimony the day JS locked us out
Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 3m 3 minutes ago
All the players and the families are here in the courtroom, no jury yet and #JodiArias has not been brought in
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 56s 57 seconds ago
#jodiarias is in royal blue, hair down…
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago
First words from Judge Sherry Stephens: “Counsel please approach.” Meet the new year, same as the old year. #JodiArias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 29s 29 seconds ago
I don’t see Geffner here…just saying #jodiarias #3tvarias
https://ahhhpoetry.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/boil-the-frog.jpg
ROF LOL!!!! 😆
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA! 😀 😀
CC53..I love you, you just made my day!!!!!!
😆
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 47s 47 seconds ago
Donavon, Arias mom and 4 other supporters are here #jodiarias #3tvarias
I’m there in spirit
I’m there in spirit too ♥
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 20s 20 seconds ago
Sam, Steven, Hillary and some other friends are here for Travis #jodiarias #3tvarias
PROTESTING HERE! They have plastered the Alexanders family pictures all over twitter calling them America’s Family!!?????? NO WAY!!!! Not all of American is that Stupid!!!!!
America’s METH HEAD family…the demise of a country if THEY are representing…pfft
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 26s 27 seconds ago
Ten minutes later, Juan Martinez, Jennifer Willmott and Kirk Nurmi are still at the bench, muted by Judge Stephens’ white noise machine.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
Recess for 5 minutes #jodiarias #3tvarias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 15s 16 seconds ago
Sidebar ends. The next words from Judge Stephens: “We are at recess for five minutes.” All parties go to their corners. #JodiArias
Probably giving Morticia time to get there!!!!!
New year, same shit…… 🙄
I thought he was kidding about the recess…..
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 31s 32 seconds ago
Juan and Flores walked up to clerk and asked for evidence. Flores is looking at it now #jodiarias #3tvarias
Michael Kiefer retweeted
MC Superior Court @courtpio · 57s 58 seconds ago
There will be no trial today in State v #jodiarias
WTF?????????????
The Frog needs more time????? But my cauldron is HOT!!!!!
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
I’m hoping this is a sign of something good about to occur. Fingers & toes crossed. Please!
Hoping for the same…after reading those motions…maybe there won’t be ANY more trial…no need for one!
This is the NEVER-ENDING TRIAL… If this pace keeps going on, I see more jurors – by the end of the week – waving ‘adios’…
Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
The Court does an AMAZING job keeping the public informed of what it is doing in #JodiArias…sarcasm
Maybe No News is Good News!
Yes, Yes, Yes! R, Love! Here’s hoping!
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 50s 51 seconds ago
We may still have oral argument. The defense, prosecution and media attorneys are all still here. #JodiArias
I don’t understand why they are whining that there is no testimony today when they have their darn media lawyer in court. JSS has so many mini side trials going on – what do they expect to happen??
Brain freeze in AZ.
They are likely going to get this release to the media over with.
IMHO they are going to lose this jury before too long.
Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 50s 51 seconds ago
This is so awesome! The parties just went into chambers…sarcasm #jodiArias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago
And now? Into chambers. #JodiArias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
All lawyers have gone into chambers #jodiarias #3tvarias
Monica Lindstrom retweeted
Janice Helgeson @keshabailee · 7m 7 minutes ago
@monicalindstrom So if court is cancelled for today & this is the only day for trial, when will they b back? Valentines day???
I’ve decided MLindstrom first name must be Moron.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 3m 3 minutes ago
We may have a hearing here soon #jodiarias #3tvarias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago
Judge Stephens says she sent jurors in light of matters discussed at the bench. They reconvene at 4 pm to decide if they continue tomorrow
I know if I were on that jury I’d be bitting nails by now. They have job’s , a life that they can never plan because they never know when they are going to be in court. This is becoming Jury abuse.
Oh but, Cindy now they can go read up about the case on the internet and listen to all of the crazy disgusting twitters’ opinions about the trial. SMH
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 45s 45 seconds ago
Nurmi appealed to the Supreme Court regarding the Court of Appeals order and a stay was filed #jodiarias so no release of transcript yet
Oh that’s GOOD.
That is very, very good….but Why can’t they just continue???
Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
Oral argument reset for January, 8 at 8:30 on the release of the transcript #JodiARias
Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 34s 34 seconds ago
The parties are conducting some kind of interview here at the court #JodiArias
Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
Surprise…court is in recess #jodiArias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago
Regarding the oral argument on releasing #Arias transcripts, defense filed appeal with AZ Supreme Court and wants stay. Hearing to be reset.
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago
Stephens says that if Nurmi is ready before 4 pm, they can have an earlier hearing. Think we will be informed? #JodiArias #transparency
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 27s 28 seconds ago
Apparently, there are witness interviews to be done today by one side or the other, which may have been topic of sidebars, etc. #JodiArias
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 56s 56 seconds ago
As well as the pending appeal, and request for stay, of course. #JodiArias
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
8th at 8:30am Bodney can come back for argument on transcripts #jodiarias #3tvarias It’s over
MC Superior Court @courtpio
Media motions will be heard on Thursday at 8:30
What about the Brady violations/ misconduct ?? How long does it take JSS to “take it under advisement”??
She’s stalling! She knows that shit has hit the fan and there is no way weaseling out of it…
agreed
Why the HELL not just get it over and done with and let this jury go about their lives???
So I ask you, the tax payers in Arizona Who now is wasting your money?
But don’t you know, Cindy, this is all Jodi’s fault, she’s controlling the whole thing and just stalling the proceedings to avoid the inevitable. (It’s all part of Jodi’s powers as a witch.)
Oh what I thinking geez. Must have had to much eggnog…
Darn I wanted to get through one day without a TYPO…
What was I thinking….
Hey!!! I forgot to get any Eggnog for Christmas Holidays. 🙁
I had diet eggnog, not bad…LOL
Man! I forgot the eggnog too! Just think! I could have gained DOUBLE the amount of weight if I had remembered the eggnog…. I better get a reminder next year…DON’T FORGET THE EGGNOG!
There is probably still time to buy the egg-nog, and it might be on sale. I didn’ t buy any until after New Year’s.
Eggnog is essential.
And by the way, McDonald’s makes good eggnog shakes around the holidays, but for some perverse reason, not every McDonald’s carries them.
AMY! OMG…now I NEED to go see if McDs around here has it and if they are still selling it… :/ I LOVE the vanilla shakes.
OH Amy… I was so craving a Eggnog shake from McDonalds. I thought about it for a few days and gave into my craving. I drove to the Golden Arches just to find out they had run out of the flavoring. I was not happy…but I lived…
(((((((( JODI’S MAGICAL POWERS))))))))
I’m thinking she is just hoping it will all disappear just like all the “supposed evidence” they had to incriminate Jodi for this farce! JODI IS INNOCENT ARIZONA!!! JSS is drowning in a pond full of scum.
Would that be the same scum pond that the frog lives in?
Yes it would, but I think there is more than one Frog who, too, will drowned!
This could very well be true….HEHEHE
She probably ran it through the shredder …thinking, hoping it would go away. I have a feeling she has NO CLUE about how computers work…
I say let her take her time. I’m sure there is a lot more dirty work BN has to uncover.
I would tend to agree with you but I do not want this to end in a mistrial because of the jury’s decision to abandon ship…
They seem to be a pretty resilient group. Hopefully, they are enjoying their days off and enjoying the time away from work.
You don’t work or sit in the courtroom you don’t get paid!!!
I didn’t think of that. The defence, however, is carrying a very difficult load with all these side issues and if they need to take some time to get it right, so be it. I have faith in these jurors for some reason.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
If they reported for duty this morning, they get paid for the day.
Good, thank you!!!
JSS can take whatever she wants to “under advisement” for the duration of the trial. She does not have to act on anything she chooses not to. She has to sort through all this “he said she said” garbage and deduce what the law is. She has lawyers, prosecutors and witnesses all calling each other liars blatantly not just in innuendo. Far too much money has been spent on this trial. There is no way she wants to call a mistrial and have to start all over. She knows that JA would never get a fair trial. I figure she will sentence JA at the end of the penalty phase and let the appeals courts sort everything out.
I tend to agree with you, but JSS doesn’t really care what would be fair to Jodi or we wouldn’t be here now IMO. She probably will let the COA clean up the GIANT mess she has let happen in her court room.
Ok I really want to know if we can send the state of Arizona back to Mexico. I can not understand what a f~up joke this has become. This trial will be written in law books …. 🙄
Interesting thought. . .hmmmmm. Maybe we could transport Arizona to the planet Kolob!
Except for Jeff and the other nice Arizonians.
Ooops! Your Right! There will be special conditions made for our chosen ones!!!!! 🙂
Oh you are right…..
They could drag Utah right along with ’em
I so wanted Jodi to have a full day out of that cell.
I guess she’ll be in the little room at court for the day. Her bus back to Estrella probably won’t leave until 5 or so.
Hopefully there are windows??
I doubt it.
Can’t you just lie to me???
I’m sorry. Of course, Cindy. I hear there’s a pretty little bay window, and window boxes full of flowers.
And, a bird feeder filled with hungry blue birds of happiness feasting on their lunch is hanging outside the bay window. Aaaahhhhh
Away from Joe and his jail – anywhere is good.
Yes indeedy do! I just reminded myself of this song! Memories of Little Jimmy Dickens 😀
Maybe I should dedicate it to the Frog!
http://youtu.be/ZfYFx6MOTYU
May an elephant caress him with his toes! 🙁
(wrong face :D)
And lots of good food and her family is there with her……this time will come!!!!!
I truly do believe that will come to pass, Cindy! Never Doubt it! I’m just being silly but this is no laughing matter until this is all put into the past for GOOD!
Thnak you ladies for this beautiful images you created in my mind
. I know we all wish that one day Jodi will be walking free again and will be able to experience all the beauty that was stolen from her.
I doubt windows. The holding cells are generally interior rooms/cells next to the court room.
File date: 1/4/15 – Party 001 – Motion to Preclude Witness – Docket date 1/5/15
is Jodi party 1 or 2?
Jodi’s #001 but scoopy tweeted this so now I’m confused.
Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ • 17m17 minutes ago Casas Adobes, AZ
The new motion To Preclude Witness from the State! http://thetrialdiaries.com/trial-documents-and-motions/ … #jodiarias
R. Love it’s ok to be silly. Sometimes that’s how we deal with our stress. It sure is better then crying over something we have no control over. We keep our prayers going and our support. Other then that…..it’s in God’s hands…
Thanks, you can tell when I’m frustrated! 🙄 I look for something to make me laugh so I won’t kick something or someone that doesn’t deserve it! Good thing, I do not live in AZ! You all might have to start up a new blog site for me. . .something like “Free R, who is at it Again” !!!!! 😉
My Prayers are Always Endless for Jodi and her FREEDOM!!!!!! (((((((JODI))))))
I know just what you are saying. I do thank God I live alone…
Good Company ♥ 😉
Ok can you tell me who filed the motion to preclude a witness??
The State
It was Kermit. BN was interviewed on the 2nd, but most of the work was done by one of his assistants, unnamed. After the conclusion of BN’s interview, Nurmi decided that the assistant was going to be the 1st witness, not BN. Kermit asked for him to be interviewed on Sunday 8:00 and the defence said he wasn’t available until 10:00. Kermit said that didn’t give him enough time to interview “the other guy” so now Kermit wants him precluded, or an interview a week prior to his testifying.
Kermit received a 7,000 page report from BN. 😆
Thanks guys. SERIOUSLY 7000 pages? Good for him. I hope he didn’t put it in language that the frog could understand…. He will most likely have his little computer builder expert read it and give them notes…
Even double-sided that’s 3500 pages. Poor court reporter.
I should say clerk.
7,000 pages? Bwahahaha!
I can picture Kermit, sitting next to his own computer expert:
K:- So tell me in a nutshell: what does it say?
E: – In a nutshell? You’re screwed!
K: – Can we twist it around and make *them* look like the bad guys?
E: -I told you, you are screwed.
K: -Did I ASK you that??????? Now, WHY won’t you answer my question? Twist it around, YES OR NO????
TOOOOOO FUNNY!!!! 😆
E – Are you having trouble with your memory Mr. Frog????
I can always hear his voice in my head now. Ugh!
I have a couple of thoughts to throw out here. I was just rereading the Flores report and came to the part where Lisa West was talking about the email she was sent about being a shameful whore if she allowed TA to be there. Now, knowing that TA has a multitude of blockers on his comp would put one in mind that he must know a bit about computers. If that is in fact the case, why did he not do a dns lookup for that email that Lisa received? I realize that emails come from a certain server but wouldn’t the server know the area the email was sent from? If he really thought it was Jodi that sent the email, would he not want to try to prove it?
Another thought concerning that email. The wording of it. Is it possible that it was written by someone who had gone through it and been excommunicated because of it? Could it have been Deanna Reed who wrote and sent that email as a warning to Lisa on what would happen if she slept with TA?
Another thing. Both roommates stated they had seen TA the morning of the fifth of June but the last picture is June fourth. Ryan Byrnes stated that JA was in Vegas at 11 am on the fifth. Who changed the date of the last day the roommates saw TA and why were they never on the stand?
We know that TA went to see his bishop, according to Taylor Searle just around the time that these emails were received by Lisa. Your point about checking where it came from is an excellent point, and TA had several friends who seemingly were very adept with computers. I have always believed it was a warning to Lisa from someone who cared about her.
Yes – Lisa had an ex – crap I’ve forgotten his name now, Steve something I think. What I’ve read suggests he might have been a little to the wrong side of stable, maybe kind of stalker-ish (but I hate to jump on a rumor like THAT) – anyway the note seemed more fixated on Lisa than Travis, so I think it was someone being possessive of her.
Bell. Steve Bell. That was his name.
Omg I remember talking about him way back when. Jodi didn’t send that email. Not the way Jodi writes.
Jodi wrote in her journal many times that she was happy for Travis that he thought he might have found “the One” with Mimi.
She wasn’t seething with jealousy.
She also wrote she felt bad for Lisa because she didn’t know that Travis was dating Lisa, and had she known, she wouldn’t have been continuing to sleep with him.
Yes that would be him Journee but if you reread the email. it was like a slap in the face made me think it might have been Deanna.
It could have been but who ever wrote the email also slash the tires. I’m go to go with Lisa’s ex. It sounds more of a jilted lover.
I have always always believed it was Deanna.
But can you see her splitting the tires??? Why wasn’t Jodi a threat to her. (Deanna)
I’m not sure Maria, Slitting tires is more a guy thing, in TN anyway. Tires are hard to cut and I do not believe Jodi ever did that! I knew an old man once who cut 19 of our tires. Truck tires,large tractor tires and also a large backhoe tire!! And if that wasn’t enough, then he shot and killed our English Pointer on our property. Talk about living next to the Devil we have. We could never catch him and believe me when I say my husband tried. God protected my husband by never letting him catch that old mean disgusting man. We figured he had used a machete (sp?) type of knife, one of those big ones that cut brush. Needless to say, our house went up for sale and we moved as soon as we possibly could. Anyhow, it would take a big knife and a lot of strength to slice through tires, that is why I think it is a guy thing. Of course, someone’s brother could have done the dirty job of slitting Travis’s tires also. Jodi would not and could not of done it. Period.
PS You wonder why would the man do such a thing, we built our barn on the back of our property (which was near his house) after asking him if it would bother him. . .he said it wouldn’t. . .apparently he had second thoughts, he just didn’t let us know until the barn was completely built. SMH Me and those barns!
That is incredible, R.Love, that some man (allegedly) cut 19 of your tires & killed your English Pointer. …And, lucky that you-all moved away. …It does sound like it would be a man’s thing to do rather than a woman. …Because, I theorize that a man (tire cutter) would do that to taunt the car owner (victim) to accuse him so that he (the tire cutter) could raise the tension of hatred by denying it, and using the accusation as reason to justify more tension. …It does sound like a guy-thing to ((sometimes)) cut tires, to elevate tension. …A woman would not want to elevate tension by being accused. (IMO).
….But, has anyone considered that Travis actually may have cut his own tires in order to control some sort of ((support sympathy))?? …And, perhaps did it again to ((emphasize that it was someone who hated him)) and not a random act?? ….Did he have home owners insurance to cover such a claim for new tires??? …I feel sure with his legal company, he would not have spent his own money to replace those tires. ..(IMHO).
Great in theory but were Lisa’s tires not damaged also? Didn’t Jodi give him money to help with new tires??
I do agree that it would be a man that did this. Another one of those things that Travis throw out there…..and everyone believed. I’m trying to recall if a police report was ever taken?
I just pray that somehow Bryan can find anything from the phone’s that will prove that Travis was the one who bullied Jodi into coming to Masa.
Travis in his own words proved that Jodi wasn’t jealous about his trip with Mini. If anyone was jealous it was Travis. Besidesthe fact that Jodi knew way too much.
Thanks WLopez, you know I never thought about it the way you put things. You might have hit the nail on the head with my old neighbor!!! After we moved we found out he had shot the man who lived on the other side of his property so we considered ourselves very lucky to get away from him. My husband was a new Christian and I had always heard the Devil will do anything in his power to get his people back into his clutches. We were very lucky and thankful to get out of that bad situation. If it had been earlier in my husband’s life that man would have been mince meat and I would have been baking cakes with saws in them to take to jail. LOL
Jodi did not cut those tires. Travis told his sister Samantha that he did not want to make a police report. Travis knew Jodi didn’t do it. She did offer him money to help out with new tires. He very well might have cut his own tires to either collect insurance monies or make everyone feel sorry for “poor sweet Travis”. I wouldn’t have put it past him, he lied about everything else in his life, why not that. He definitely like to be in the limelight, have everyone paying attention to him. . . gagging here . . . . eeuuuuuhhhhh
Plus Jodi did know too much about Travis and he needed to have people question her character to benefit only himself. He wanted and needed his friends to not trust Jodi. Travis was truly a disgusting worthless piece of “work”. He did everything in his power to destroy Jodi while all the time using her for his own sick desires.
Maybe he is sharing a very special wing in hell-o with my ex-neighbor (who passed a couple of years back). . .it would serve them both right.
I agree with R.Love. Jodi did not slash those tires. First of all, it’s out of the question for us her supporters – she is NOT astalker and the mere idea is ridiculous at best. It was Travis himself who did it, for all the reasons mentioned above that R.Love described or some other guy who really hated him. And I’m sure there were a lot of those…. 😉
So glad, R.Love, to read your 6:30am comment on this thread, about your very evil ex-neighbor (alleged tire cutter & other things) having “passed” a couple of years back, and probably sharing a special wing in hell with equally evil souls.
…But, perhaps there is a Gatekeeper at the Gates of Hell also, & some souls are so wicked, vindictive, hypocrites, that even the Devil himself, refuses those souls entry into hell, and sometimes says: Go to Mormon Hell ! ! …It is a hell of a lot worst then just plain old Hell.
…And, of course Jodi did not cut TA’s tires. …She would know that he “probably did NOT have” full coverage auto insurance & would probably have to pay for new tires himself. …And, Jodi would know that TA would then have need to borrow more money FROM HER, or ask her for more money/payment for his old car that he sold to her, (tricked her into buying).
…But, TA would know that he may be covered with home owners insurance, especially if the slashing occurred on his property. …I wonder if TA was reimbursed for his tires?? …Just my opinion.
I’m not sure if we ever heard how he paid for his new tires. . .I know Jodi offered him money for them and he probably took it. I’m guessing his homeowner’s insurance had a big deductible so they wouldn’t have been covered that way. I do think you might be right saying he probably did it himself to orchestrate his web of evil lies to make Jodi look bad to his friends. He needed his friends to believe him when it came down to Jodi; it was a whole scam he was creating and they were too slow to see it. It was catching up with him though and you know, maybe it did. He had many people with “justified probable cause” ( I think I just made that up) to do him in. . .but never Jodi, she was getting over him. I think the photos he took were a way for him to hang on to her. . .a power control thing. He didn’t want her anymore but he didn’t want her to find anyone else who would truly love her. He was a selfish good for nothing IMHO.
Watch how many women appear for tire slashing on Judge Mathis or Judge Joe Brown – or watch Adele Givens’ comedy routine about how a woman’s vandalizing a man’s car and slashing his tires equals true love – and you’ll see why I think tire slashing is more of a woman’s act of revenge than it is a man’s! 🙂
Seriously, though – regardless of whether men or women slash tires, there is no PROOF that Jodi Arias slashed anyone’s tires. It seems that Travis Alexander had played enough people – men and women – that there would be no shortage of suspects.
Alan Dershowitz used a phrase yesterday that I think applies to the way the prosecution kept bringing up the slashed tires without that pesky thing called “proof:” “It’s the legal equivalent of scribbling something on a toilet stall and then running away.”
No proof – but keep repeating it often enough and loudly enough and maybe they’ll believe it.
That is an outstanding connection, Paige, in your 1:08pm comment in this thread, (and I paraphrase): Alan Dershowitz used a phrase yesterday …about “proof:” … “its the legal equivalent of someone scribbling on a toilet stall and then running away.” ….Obviously, he was referring to accusations against himself, & separately, other accusations against Prince Albert of England, which are (without credibility), but picked up by the media as if they were worthy of credibility.
…And, I agree that this trash kind of proof as being the same kind of (TRASH) proof that the media, police, & family of TA used against Jodi. …And, the stupid jurors in the ‘guilt’ trial used it as belief that it was credible, believing she lied about everything. …But now, isn’t it the court that permitted the state to lie??
…Perhaps Dershowitz is the perfect person to develop & define what is TRASH PROOF. …And where trash proof belongs: …in the toilet. …(IMHO).
…And, I just went to Google: (Alan Dershowitz scribbling) …and there are many news links about Alan on this subject.
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…Mr Alan Dershowitz, you should now come out and say that Jodi Arias is just as innocent as you are. …And that she was convicted with TRASH PROOF.
Correction to my above 1/6/15, 4:17pm comment: First paragraph, I meant to say Prince Andrew of England (not Prince Albert). …I believe Prince Andrew & Alan Dershowitz & also Jodi Arias are all three, just as innocent, because there is no credible proof except TRASH PROOF, in the media.
…Mr Alan Dershowitz, please say something positive about the innocence of Jodi Ann Arias. …
You both have brought up very good points! Trash Proof! ♥
PS You made me remember when we were very young we would call stores and ask if the had Prince Albert in a can. . . .you know. . . then Well, Let him out! Sorry there I go again.
The haters are threatening BN that he will never work again. Hah, as if AZ is the only place in the world. I’m sure he wouldn’t want to have anything to do with that corrupt bunch anyway.
Your right, not anymore since he has seen their true colors!
Oh I think they are truly barking up the wrong tree with Bryan. With all of his government connections….can we say stupid senseless morons…
They did the same with EVERY professional who testified on behalf of the defense. If they keep it up it’s just another reason Jodi is not getting a fair trial…let the nut bags continue and maybe some day they will realize it was because of THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR that the media has been banned from the courtroom, AND HOPEFULLY one of the many reasons for Jodi being set free (this is my vision and I am happy with it)
They are all a bunch of idiots if they don’t understand that much of the mayhem they complain about was actually brought on by their own self-righteous foolishness.
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If this retrial tells us anything it is our legal system is an imperfect system and experts
are confusing. Therefore, there should be no death penalty in the U. S.The state s experts can
be wrong and in this case they certainly were.
I agree.
I hope the defense team can cite those threats in their arguments regarding witness- tampering, interference with mitigation witnesses, and putting on a mitigation defense, etc..
If the media is so concerned with transparency, they should write about how the public makes threats against anyone who tries to help Arias.
As Canada Carol’s post above shows, there is indisputable evidence that this is happening.
The media should take this seriously and not trivialize it, or sarcastically dismiss it as ‘defense tactics’.
The internet increasingly makes transparency more and more precarious, because people are being made into targets, and those targets become more and more vulnerable.
Obviously, this will make it harder and harder for all defendants to protect and help themselves.
The media WILL sooner or later, but WILL, learn the details of the case. That transparency will manifest in time; it is a surety.
What is not a surety is whether the Arias trial will be hopelessly compromised and contaminated by the media’s insistent push to rush a delicate process which must be protected from outside interference.
The media, and specifically, the lynch mob’s voracious appetite for vengeance, ARE an injurious interference.
Like the scientific paradigm about how the observer inescapably affects and alters the observed simply by the process of observing, this is what is happening because of the media and their observation of the trial process.
( And much of their observation is more their personal opinion and bias, than it is objective reporting.)
An enormous percentage of today’s media is not at all interested in doing the job of true journalism.
• Why are there so few probing articles and reports on the allegations of prosecutorial misconduct, evidence tampering, and withholding of evidence?
The segment of media that makes light of those allegations, do so because they are an ersatz variety of media__ ‘crime- entertainment’ and gossip fest media.
Amy very well stated…
Yes Amy, very Good! Maybe it is all over their heads and they really can’t see what is happening. They have spun so many yarns on this they don’t know up from down.
Those people are amazing! “If you don’t agree with us we will destroy you because we are so compassionate and have so much love in our hearts for Travis and his family!” Mean hypocritical self-righteous idiots!
R. Love, The thread below your “Bird of Paradise” song link was full so I am writing my thank you here…THANK YOU! I have never heard that before…now I think I know it by heart…it’s been stuck in my head since I heard it (and this is a good thing 😉 it’s helping me get through this laundry…absolutely LOVE it
Thanks Dorothy, out of frustration I was on a search out behind the barn for some happy thoughts!
http://youtu.be/1_mUz3RWKHQ This is one for you! ♥
I thought it was a stupid thing for him to say too!
InconvenientTruthsTV @InconvenientTr1 · 3h3 hours ago
@william_pitts Absolutely ridiculous when a defense attorney DOESN’T do EVERYTHING possible for client facing death penalty.
#jodiarias
William Pitts @william_pitts · 3h3 hours ago
Absolutely ridiculous to delay this trial further when Nurmi knows he has no prayer of winning the media motion. Not on us now. #JodiArias
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
i know for a fact jodi is innocent
James would like to share??
Can you explain more, please ? Thanks
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 18m 18 minutes ago
#Jodiarias witness interviews being conducted behind locked doors. Will they be unlocked when Judge Stephens convenes with attorneys?
Pandora, I thought perhaps you were napping. You were up late last night.
Nope, us Greek girls still around although it IS late here. We wanna see if there will be a Hearing after all……
You mean today???
Yeah, wasn’t there supposed to be a hearing at 4 AZ time?
Thought so…but who knows…
Cathy @courtchatter • 10m10 minutes ago
#JodiArias delayed again: Weaving our way through the secret courtroom of Judge Sherry Stephens http://www.courtchatter.com/2015/01/jodi-arias-delayed-again-weaving-our.html?spref=tw
I think she might be talking about the hearing…..
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 11m 11 minutes ago
The #JodiArias lawyers have been in closed court all afternoon as Juan Martinez interviews the computer expert he calls “Pseudonym.”
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 10m 10 minutes ago
Martinez filed motions to interview forensic expert Bryan Neumeister’s two assts. When he learned one will testify, he filed to preclude.
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 10m 10 minutes ago
Oh, by the way, there is no trial tomorrow in #JodiArias.
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 9m 9 minutes ago
And doesn’t the name “Pseudonym” sound like an arch-villain in a Batman comic book? #JodiArias
Now how are the haters going to twits this around to be Jodi’s fault???
HAH!
Michael KieferVerified account @michaelbkiefer
The #JodiArias lawyers have been in closed court all afternoon as Juan Martinez interviews the computer expert he calls “Pseudonym.”
JSS finally gets one point in my book. In response to JM’s request to preclude Pseudonym yesterday, JSS, seeing that both JM and Pseudo were present today, must have told JM to interview him all afternoon today. So much for JM’s excuse that he couldn’t interview him… 🙂
He could have done it yesterday…Yes I agree JSS dose get ONE point for that.
But why is there no court tomorrow?
JM has to finish reading the 7000 pp of the report he was given by Defense last Friday, re the work that the BN team did on the hard drive. I’m sure JM did nothing else alllll weekend until he gave up and asked for a preclusion.
I’m sure he didn’t understand a bit of it. I’m sure he had a law clerk read most of it and then explain it to him. Why can’t he just admit he doesn’t know anything about computers. I wonder who wrote the questions for him to ask the BN’s assistant??
Can’t you just see JM wading through 7000 pp of porn in computerese? No pictures! He must have been caught off guard this afternoon precisely because he didn’t know what questions to ask.
100 points for Jodi!!!!!!!
Like I said I’m sure he had ALLOT of help…He knows nothing about computers…he’s even dumber then me and believe me that’s pretty dumb… 🙄
My guess is he had time to get his experts in there to do the questioning. JM’s novice computer skills have already caused him to bungle big time when his own witness admitted there was porn on the initial hard drive he examined.
Of course I should talk! You know at least twice as much as I do about computers!
Just a couple of questions from BN’s interview January 2, 2015. How often do you hear a witness say that about police department files?
Q: So then you went the first time. Then you went a second time. Why did you go a second time?
A: The second time was to do a different type of clone. I wanted – the first time I did, I just captured what was on there, because I thought – it was said there was no porn. I didn’t – most of the time when I deal with the police department file, what they say is on there is on there. In this case, it was completely opposite of what they said was on there. So I wanted to get a complete clone so I could look for deleted files.
Q: Right
A: And, then, (Pseudonym) went through that clone, and he found out there was about 70,000 zeroed out files. So –
Am I missing something here?? Is this for real or are you just kidding us?
No it’s for real. It is part of the motion that kermit filed today. There is a fair bit of his interview included.
Thanks…..I wasn’t sure…
” when I deal with the police department file, what they say is on there is on there. In this case, it was completely opposite of what they said was on there.”
Music to my ears….. 😀 😀
LOL It is almost a Laurel and Hardy Moment! You know the one. . .who is on first? No I’m on first, no your on second . . . . 🙂
I need to correct myself Abbott and Costello Moment:
http://youtu.be/WQXwt83hYkE 🙄 Better late than never.
R. Now that made me split out my dinner…lol
I’m thinking the.Three Stooges also…
The Frog, Defective Detective and then we have Dr. Horn = 3 Stooges
Yup those be the ones..LOL…
.So anyone know for sure if court is called off in the am??
Nym, Hummmmm after working with “work” programmes for 29 years my son still tells me to go take a computer class. I ask him why, I have him. Trying to feed his ego…lol. Hey he could work for the Masa PD and be a expert witness.. He has built quite a few computers… 🙄
BUT we would not want him to work there, would we? SMH
I don’t think that would be a very good Idea…he would most likely drop kick the frog…my boys are over 6ft. Besides he doesn’t like whiny little people…lol.
How interesting you would say that. I toyed with making a new year’s resolution to take some computer classes. But then I’ve never made a NYR, so I didn’t.
My son got his degree in computer sci, but then he got married and moved. A recent email from an old friend who used to run a hospital said his 7 yr old grandson came to stay and explained all the computer things his grandfather couldn’t figure out.
Let’s get your son and mine out to the Mesa PD to straighten this whole thing out once and for all!
🙂
LOL…I’m too old to be taking Those kind of classes. Lol. I really think that Bryan is doing a really good job….
Darn kid getting married and moving… Mine dropped out of pre~law and now is working for his brother as a PA= plummers assistant. (His joke) darn kid had a 3.9. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. I always thought he should go into computer science…
I think we are better off having them stay put. Hummmmm we don’t want them getting arrested in Masa….
Oh and I had to have my great niece show me how to use my new phone. Darn whipper snappers.. lol
Let’s just send the 7 year old out to Mesa! He probably could straighten the Frog out!
Oh you know how sad is that, but true…lol. I don’t care if the frog knows anything about computers or not…he was such an ass to Bryan on the stand. He should have shut his mouth and let Bryan explain.
Yup. I’ll vote for the 7 year old. Nobody else has been able to straighten JM out. He could probably clue JM in on all the mysteries of what BN said so JM could see just what a pickle he’s really in ! 😆
He knows. He just hasn’t figured out how to spin this yet…..lol.
I think you’re right.
Amen…
Pretty sad isn’t it? Jodi sits in that cell day after day for something she didn’t do or fending off her attacker. I do know the day will come when she will walk out that door a free woman. Perhaps she will turn and wave at the 3 amigos behind the fence…:-) 🙂 🙂
Let’s keep that picture alive in our minds until we see it in living color on the news! And Soon!!!
Bless you, Jodi………………………..
A 7,000 PAGE REPORT !! 🙂 🙂 🙂
I can only imagine what it contains and how this is going to further prove that the state withheld/destroyed/deleted exculpatory evidence.
GO DT !!
SEVEN THOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSAAAAANNNNDDDD PAGES !!!!!!!!!!!!
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First time it ever worked.I can build my own computer but I could never make an “emoji” or whatever it’s called. Thanks, R.
Well good golly CC53 I hear there is an opening in JM’s office for a computer “expert”…. is all you have to know is how to build a computer and see nothing and say nothing. 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Cindy,
Did I say build? I meant I can turn on a computer. My bad.
CC53 now we know you are a Computer Expert in hiding. . .just waiting to pull one over on all of us!!!! 😀
CC 53 Lmao. I still can’t get the thought of JM hopping around his office yelling like a mad person throwing those 7000 pages around…. Journee was right when she and others said he wouldn’t go down without a fight. He’s got nothing to fight with….
So now we wait on JM……and the haters are once again blaming Jodi and giving out JSS bosses phone number. Geez.
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I have had some really great teachers 😉 and of course wonderful students !!! Nice to know you can always find a job in Mesa Co. if you might “want” one!!! ♥
Morning R. LOVE. We are chipping away the icicles that form on our bodies when we go out up here.
YEs, and I heard you are sending it to me tonight. No, really you do not have to share your weather with me!!!!!! 🙂
But R. I love you…hehehe 🙄
Well, if you do you won’t send 8 degree weather! ♥ Brrrrrrrrr
R. Had to respond here. Well the sun is shining now but not doing any good. Our roads are bad due to the fact that nothing is working on them because of the temp.
7,000 pages and 70,000 files just disappeared. Lucky #7. 😀
Good morning Team Jodi!!!
I’m sitting here chuckling over my coffee with visions of JM still reading. I wonder what page he is on. 🙄
The poor law clerk that has to be helping him. Q= “What does that mean” A=”JM that means your going to spend sometime at Joe’s hotel…”
Now seriously how is he going to spin this??
Good morning ! He will spin it the same way he did when he accused Jodi’s own defense team of deleting exculpatory evidence. He will nit pick on irrelevant things and deflect and blame others for what the state did. KN better warn “Pseudonym” and the other guy to stick to the facts and not let JM twist the truth !
Good morning BB. I have a gut feeling that Bryan had a very long talk with him. I just pray that the media doesn’t get a hold of his name. There are REASON why his name was not made public.
What a circus this has truly become. How can JM seriously weasel his way out of this?
In the end, he can’t weasel his way out of it. The facts are the facts are the facts. The question is what is JSS going to do about it? It is all up to her to either do the right thing according to the law or to delay, deny, and pass the buck to the appellate courts…….
I’m not happy about that out come. She truly is in a damned if you do and dampened if you don’t. So go by how the laws are written JAA. Then retire and move as far away from Arizona is you can’t go.
From your mouth…..
I too can’t think how he can possibly weasel his way out. This is scientific data we’re talking about, computer data FFS!!! HOW can he twist anything around? But then again, we must remember he is one hell of a liar, that little frog! He has the ability to manipulate perceptions and to pull tricks that no sane mind would ever think! I really want him cornered, I do. I just am afraid of his evil skills and of course I do not trust JSS!
Just read Keiffer: no trial today or Weds. Hummmmm we will have to wait to see about Thursday……
He must be a slow reader. Why doesn’t he sign up for a speed reading course!!!! 🙄
LOL he doesn’t need that class R. LOVE, he’s got someone else doing the reading. Paralegal or law clerk and most likely a computer expert. His only question will be “am I looking at wearing magic pink underwear? Yes or No…
It might be, ” Dang, I AM having trouble with my memory, I couldn’t have done that! Not me, I AM Almighty Juan, Ruler of the Broom Closet!”
And hopefully soon he will be actually using the brooms that are in that closet to clean the court room floors with. Lalalallalalalala 😉
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R. Love I’m sorry that you and your family had to endure such a sick evil person.
Thanks Cindy. ♥ I chalk it up to a life learning experience (I left the part out where he also cut our barb wire fence in a dozen place to let our horses out). One can just not make up this sort of stuff!!!!! This is one of the main reasons I LOVE my JAII family, we are all learning something new everyday. Thanks to WLopez I think I can understand what was up with that nut job. If we all can learn from each others worst life experiences we will be nothing but stronger to fight for those who need us desperately!!! This can be a CRAZY world! Unfortunately, for Jodi her life experiences are far worse than anything I have ever endured. ((((JODI)))) Jodi Arias needs every single one of us pulling together and fighting for her. . .she deserves it. . .I have never ever heard or watched someone be mistreated by a group of bloodthirsty people in my whole life like what she has been thrown into! It is a Modern Day Witch Trial at its WORST!!!! For you Hate filled people remember, What goes around will certainly come around so you best watch what you wish for! Jodi Arias Is Innocent! Period!!!
Oh R. Love I have learned so much from every person on this site. Yes we all have are own stories but no one has ever put their above what Jodi is going through. How can you hate someone you don’t know? I hate Travis behavior but I never was happy he is dead. I don’t like the way the sibling are acting but I’m sorry you lost your brother but if you think for one minute that putting Jodi to death will free you from your pain it won’t.
I do hope that God will bless them with the truth of what really happened that day. In the end they will have to chose what they want to about who Travis truly was.
I wish Travis was alive today to face all of the destruction he has caused. Although if that was to happen, Jodi might not be alive today. Everything that happened to him was brought on by himself, IMO. I know he had his problems but there are no excuses for his behavior towards Jodi. Many people grow up in abusive households but don’t turn into what he made of himself. I will not make excuses for Travis Alexander. I thank God that Jodi was able to protect herself from him, I just wish she hadn’t ever given him the time of day. Ever.
R. I was in no way making excuses for him. I knew a guy like Travis….in every way. I also wish that Travis had not died and we would know what really happened that day. The more that comes out about what was on that computer the more I truly believe that Jodi is innocent…I mean not even self defense.
Oh I know you weren’t, I was giving my thoughts on the matter of Travis. I still am bewildered by the fact that all of these people (even those ridiculous media people) who have held him up to such a God like image are still singing his praises. . .70,000 porn sites some being pedophile oriented. . .oh boys will be boys. . .oh it was just a guy thing. . . Uh NO. . .he was sick and needed help. Are they that disturbed themselves to see how sick and struggling he was to keep up his golden appearances? Apparently, Jodi was the only one who really knew that he needed that help and actually tried to help him with his “problems”. And now they can read his own words and see how abusive he was to Jodi but also others and they are still promoting his name. SMH uggghhhhhhh Travis was struggling with his inner deep rooted evil twin. We joke about our evil twins but his was not a joke, he was living two different lives for real. 🙁
Ok Typo Elf that isn’t funny!
Yahoo …. you found it. I agree with you. This boys will be boys B.S. is the reason children are being sold every day and raped. This just brings up so much anger. I’m beginning to wounder if he just looked……so help me if it comes that he had sex with a child or should I say raped one………..
I know Jodi saw both of his personalities and yes she tried to help him….more then his friends ever did.
Oh my mind is going to that dark place again….
R.Love : There are many women out there that have said TA was a friend of theirs. All of these women stated they did not want to marry him, including Lisa West and Mimi Hall. There was another young lady I believe her name was Lynda and TA had bought an engagement ring for her. She turned him down. Even Jodi herself stated she did not know that she would marry him,but then she knew so much more than the others did. He gave off some type of an air that women picked up on instinctively and backed away.
Yep! Your so right! Wonder why they profess all the “wonderful guy lies” about him even though they had those feelings? With me, my first gut feeling about a person is usually right.
It was that old fashioned thing that women love – fidelity. He was not capable of it.
Two of them, Linda and Lisa, were not happy with what he did for a living. Lisa did not feel he could keep her in the custom that she wanted, and I am not sure why Linda Ballard was not happy with ppl, but she mentioned his work as a factor in an interview.
I know you weren’t Cindy ♥ . My long post back to you went to the barn. . .LOL ! ♥
Hey don’t feel bad my phone has taken on a mind of its own. I know I type the words write and then I hit the post, and it’s wrong.
In a nutshell, what I said was I do not understand the people who still are singing Travis’s praises, even after hearing about 70,000 porn sites (some being pedophile oriented) and they are saying. . .well boys will be boys. . .oh that’s just a guy thing. . .that Travis was a wonderful man. . .on and on they go until I just for the life of me can’t figure them out. Are they truly as sick as he was that they do not see his behavior was disturbing. AND, I do not care if he had PORN on HIS COMPUTER (although that was one of his big issues among many) at all BUT I DO CARE THAT THE LYING PROSECUTOR AND his DETECTIVE TRIED TO WITHHOLD EVIDENCE THAT WOULD HAVE PROVED JODI WAS NOT A LIAR BUT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT TRAVIS ALEXANDER. I care that they obviously tampered with the evidence, the autopsy and crime scene. That is what I care about. They just do not get it! Jodi is innocent ♥
(((((R.Love))))) They are not worth our time….
Now that sums it up in a real nutshell. 😀
Yes, R. Love, it is horrible and tragic.
I watched the movie “Prosecuting Casey Anthony” on Lifetime (Yeah, I know, Lifetime?) last night. The prosecutor claimed Casey was a lying slut. I wonder if all attractive young women are automatically presented that way. Sort of a Prosecution 101- if she’s young and cute and may have committed a crime, she’s obviously a slut and a liar.That should put her behind the 8-ball right away. Juries always buy that stuff. In fact, I’ve noticed that prosecutors seem to start with demonization of the defendant first and presentation of the evidence second. Maybe, it’s “first impressions” thing for the jury.
Could be CC53, but in Arizona we will never figure out those jury members. 🙁
Someone please riddle me this…..
With all the delays and “secret testimonies” do you honestly believe that the jurors are not talking amongst themselves and their friends and their families and their co-workers?
I mean c’mon. If I were a juror for this type of trial, I could not handle the “suspense” and “secrecy”. I am sure most people could figure out where they have been and that they are a juror for this trial.
They have to “know” what is going on by info from their peeps or the news etc. Can this be found out, or would a juror have to come forward to state that they have “learned” of what is going on when they are not present. Is it within their juror obligations to let the judge know what they “know”?
Oh BC I don’t think any of us believe that they haven’t heard, read or saw something pertaining to this case.
Each time the jury is seated in the courtroom the judge asks them if they have hear or read bla, bla….by a show of hands. Yes it is their responsibility to report it to the court. Who knows for sure…
Unless, they live under a boulder in Gremlin Valley they have to be hearing something about this trial. Will they be truthful and honest? That remains to be seen. 🙁
R. Love HUMM Now if they say yes then they are off the jury…Hummmmm perhaps we might see a bit more honestly going forward.
In such high-profile cases, when jurors aren’t sequestered I find it extremely impossible that they haven’t or won’t hear anything. Same with first trial. No one will ever convince me that the first jurors were not exposed to media coverage. No way. Not humanly possible. Forst of all, it doesn’t necessarily have to do with ”them taking their dury seriously” as I’ve read somehwwere. It’s human nature, human curiosity. These people have family, friends, neighbors, co-workers.
JUST remember Tara Kelley, who admited she thought it was OK to use social media as long as you don’t talk about the trial. WHICH means she DID surf the Net during those 5 months. Now put two and two together… Simple as that.
If a judge doesn’t want a tainted Jury, sequestration is the ONLY solution.
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A little music for Tuesday afternoon, this always makes me think of Jodi……Enjoy 🙂
http://youtu.be/mYYwzmVz3Ng
Does anyone know if court is really called off tomorrow or not??
On Jen’s Trials page she has posted something from MC Superior Court saying that the trial will resume Thursday at 10:00am. So perhaps we will hear more on Thursday….
On 1/5 James made a statement the I wanted to hear more about I think BB also did.
Now I don’t recall a James but we all know my memory.
The statement : I KNOW FOR A FACT JODI IS INNOCENT….
Exactly. James said that on 1/5 at 1:31pm. So if you are reading this James, please let us all know…..thanks
Thanks BB for both of your post. Have you ever seem him before?
Not sure if I have seen James before but if he knows something maybe he will feel safe here to voice his opinion, just like we do.♥ Here’s hoping.
Ditto that ! 🙂 🙂
No, not that I can recall. Hope he answers, but so far, nothing……….
Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 15m15 minutes ago
No #jodiarias trial tomorrow. Jury to return Thursday 10 AM sharp.
I have to take my kitty♥ to the vet tomorrow for her operation so it’s a good thing court is dark.
((((((CanadaCarol & Kitty)))))))
Sure it will be 10am Sharp…lol. Thanks R.
Please read this document http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/012015/m6639096.pdf
It looks to me like JSS is seriously considering DT’s motion to dismiss this trial as she has called for Lonny Dworkin’s court testimony from last year.
Thanks Deb….
Wow, thanks Debbie!!! Interesting to say the least…
That is a very interesting request, Debbie, for the Lonnie Dworkin testimony of 2/04/2013. …I guess JSS wants the complete official court testimony. …But, I just Googled: (lonnie dworkin) and there are plenty links to that 2/04/2013 testimony of Lonnie Dworkin. …We can read, ahead of time, on Google, & try to figure out what JSS may be able to resolve when she gets the official document. …Interesting.
Well at least we know she is thinking about it….
The porn didn’t seem to be a priority of the point of Dworkin’s testimony, but he was asked about it. He initially said yes, he believed he’d seen some porn on TA’s computer. Then JM challenged him, saying that Lonnie had told him in interview that there was no porn, so LD capitulated and said “well, if that’s what I said then, it must be true)
IOW JM managed to manipulate him because it had been so long since he’d done the examination on TA’s hard drive in the porn issue was not something he’d thought he needed to review before testifying.
((((Journee)))) I have missed you.
So now what?? As I said in lower post I always remember him saying yes he found porn.
Ok when the frog is interviewing a witness for the defense, are the DT there also??
Yes, attorneys for both sides are present for witness interrogatories – as well as a court reporter, so there should be transcripts there also. If JSS does her due diligence, after reading Dworkin’s testimony, she’ll be asking for the interrogatory transcript as well.
Sorry I haven’t been around much. Gotten kinda caught up in a project here on the home front.
Oh for heaven’s sake you don’t have to apologize for taking care of things in your own life. If I hadn’t been forced to stay home today due to weather I would be out doing errands.
So now I’m wondering if Lonnie told JM there was porn or not way back when. The DT would have heard him. So why did he say yes on the stand?? So what if he told the frog he didn’t find any woman’sbreast on the clone ….. his testimony under oath was he found porn. Ok I know it matters I just want to live in Dallas land.
You have any idea what JSS might be looking for?
Honestly, Cindy? I really think that Jodi’s team, throughout the first trial, believed at the very least that there was an insurmountable case against Jodi, and that even they were not sure of how much they could trust what their client had to say. They focused their entire case – and their limited resources, because the court had to approve every last expenditure made on Jodi’s behalf – on the DV defense. They didn’t press LD on the porn issue for the same reason they didn’t have their own crime scene analyst or their own ME: they didn’t have confidence that the testimony of any of those people would support the case they were trying to build. And a good lawyer makes sure s/he KNOWS what their witness’ reply will be to every last question posed on direct. If DT had no clear memory, themselves, of what LD said about porn in interrogatory, they wouldn’t have had time to verify before going to re-direct. Making Dworkin take back his concession to JM, after the jury had already seen him ‘change his tune’ once, would have just further weakened him as a witness. The challenge might have worked, if they’d had the transcript right there to put on the monitor – but I’m guessing they didn’t.
Journee you know I have always gotten a bit ticked
It’s like that little clip we saw of BN’s interview testimony:
BN said that, in his experience, what LE had to say about evidence was usually true.
DT had no expectation that the STATE would SOLICIT FALSE TESTIMONY. That’s why KN went on and on with the Flores issue. He was quite literally dumbstruck, couldn’t believe it was happening. Took a very long time for him to realize that Flores’ lies were not an aberration but actually the status quo in the state’s case.
Now that was a big poops! Hit the wrong key.
Anyway Journee I do agree with you. I think the DT was hitting road blocks. They didn’t have the budget for all the experts so they got the very best for domestic violence. Then you add in the fact that KN and JW had never done a DP case. I don’t know how much they believed Jodi or not but I’m sure JM was rubbing his hands together with a judge and DT that never tried a DP case.
So by the grace of God they mistrialed the sentencing phase.
That kermit even had to voir dire Dworkin about the pic of the penis. He is such a DORK!
Yes, the kermit DORK got the Dwork to change his testimony on the stand, interesting ! !
LOL 😆
Good Find Debbie, thanks!
It is a court order, but the Public Defenders Office is paying for the expedited transcript. I wonder if its possible that the defence have asked for it.
Started watching his testimony got up to the phone and then the camera and it stopped. I tried Google but I didn’t find his whole testimony. I was taken aback by the fact that he was talking about Jodi’s hard drive.
Here is Lonnie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vpFpHolT8Q#t=133
His entire testimony is right here on this site in the trial videos. I will see if I can find it for you 🙂
I found it earlier this morning and it just stopped on me. I did find it on YouTube. But thank you Debbie 🙂 🙂 🙂
Okay Cindy Jewell found it. https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/jodi-arias-trial-video-audio/jodi-arias-trial-video-day-13-jodi-arias-testifies-jodi-arias-is-innocent/ This is the entire day of the 4th but his testimony actually starts on Jan 31st which is trial day 12.
Thank you again!!
You must be definitely frozen by now! 🙁 Brrrrrrr
Yup. Wrapped up in a blanket, sweats on, heat at 73 and I’m still cold..
Anyway..just watched YouTube’s Lonnie’s testimony. I knew he said he found porn on Travis computer. I remembered that day because after he said that I jumped up and down. I also remember how JM changed the subject. I have know idea what JSS is looking for.
What JSS needs to do is to face the undeniable facts that there was a ton of porn including child porn on TA’s computer and that this exculpatory evidence was hidden from the defense – not only hidden but IMHO purposefully deleted and destroyed. That’s it that’s all that is required for her to make a determination of a Brady violation and vacate the trial verdict and dismiss with prejudice. However, there is no telling what JSS is looking to do. She may be looking for a way to not vacate and dismiss. But if she ignores the facts that a clear Brady Violation has occurred then she will be overturned, no doubt…..
The who issue for me is it takes so long for appellate courts to even hear a case.
So she might take the DP off the table big deal…that’s what’s going to happen anyway.
I so want to be positive by this delay but…….
The fact that there was porn on TA’s computer and the state decided to lie about it and then let it slip during the trial (apparently LD admitted such and then was badgered by JM to retract that ) and then quickly retracted that admission does NOT RELIEVE THE STATE OF THEIR DUTY TO DISCLOSE ALL EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE TO THE DEFENSE….In other words, JSS can not rely on that admission by LD during the trial (which was quickly retracted) as an excuse to say to the DT that they were “informed” or “aware” that porn existed and that they should have followed up and should have done their due diligence. The hard drive had been tampered with and the copy that was given to the DT was not a true copy of what was on TA’s computer. The facts are the facts are the facts…THE STATE DESTROYED AND DELETED AND FAILED TO DISCLOSE THE EXISTENCE OF EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE, PERIOD !! JM consistently called Jodi a liar and anyone who believed Jodi like the two expert defense witnesses were discredited for believing Jodi……The existence of the porn was critical to the defense to be able to give Jodi a full and fair defense as it went to the heart of her credibility on the stand. And yes, the question JSS must ask is would there have been a reasonable probability that there could have been a different outcome had the exculpatory evidence been presented at trial. The answer to that is a resounding YES ! VACATE THE VERDICT AND DISMISS THIS CASE, JSS !!!
BB once again very well written. Do we dare hope that she will do the right thing? So she does that, then what?? What happens to Jodi?
If JSS does what is right according to the law and vacates the verdict and dismisses the case then Jodi most likely would be released from jail. That doesn’t mean however that the state is done with her. They would more than likely refile the case and try her once again. That is unless JSS does what is really required in an egregious case like this and that is to dismiss with prejudice which means that the state would be barred from re-trying the case against Jodi and she is FREE FOREVER !!!!
This would be my answer to all of my prayers! I vote for this to happen! 😉 Praying.
BB I fear that is exactly what JSS is going to do. She is going to tell DT that they already knew there was porn on the hd and did nothing about it back during the original trial so it is now a moot point. Then unfortunately she will dismiss their allegations and continue on with the sentencing phase. And who put the bug in her ear?? Probably none other than JM himself.
That may work temporarily if JSS fails to do her duty as an officer of the court, but when the appellate review is undertaken this will be reversed. The fact that LD admitted there was porn (then quickly retracted that statement under the badgering of JM) does NOT relieve the duty of the state to DISCLOSE ALL EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE TO THE DEFENSE, PERIOD ! The state’s position was consistent on this matter and that is that there was no porn, period! However, this has now been shown to be a lie. The Brady violation of not disclosing exculpatory evidence does NOT HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL. The facts are the facts are the facts and there is no way around them. The state may win the battle but Jodi WILL WIN THE WAR !!!!
I would think, and hope, the fact that LD retracted his statement due to MARTTINEZ HIMSELF stating that LD had told him that there was NO porn, would be sufficient to prevent JSS from pretending that the matter was presented as otherwise.
Well no matter which side of the fence you sit for or against it must be acknowledged at least when it comes to the computer discrepancies JSS is trying to get to the bottom of it. That is why I believe that things have come to a snail’s pace from a slow pace. This computer science thing is most interesting, it is concrete but still requires interpretation. It is too bad that this stuff couldn’t have been dealt with in the first trial. Martinez was able to bully his way through that one but not so easy on this one. Very frightening to think of what can happen in trials. I really wonder how many innocent people have been executed because of unscrupulous prosecutors, witnesses, etc. Very frightening if you think about it.
Exactly, the computer evidence is concrete. JSS needs to woman up and do what is now required of her to do – vacate the verdict and dismiss with prejudice…
Ya BB like that is going to happen. But we can hope. So now we need to know who ordered that transcript DT or JSS.
Yes the DT knew there was porn on the computer…Their client told them.
On the minute entry it states that “the court” is needing the transcript. I read this as the judge – JSS. She is the court. The DT was told that there was porno on the computer by Jodi. But they had no evidence of that. Once LD testified to such (but quickly retracted) JSS can not now use that admission (however fleeting it was) to now say that DT was notified that evidence did exist and somehow relieve the state of their unqualified duty to disclose all exculpatory evidence. The state’s duty to do such is never relieved……the law commands that JSS vacate this verdict and dismiss the case.
Ok BB how do you know so much about the law?
I have worked in a District Attorney’s office as a legal assistant and have worked with many attorneys…….
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 Now that explains it. Not surprised. Ok now all kidding aside who do you really read all 7,000 pages???
There are most likely at least two or three other people in addition to JM reviewing the 7,000 page report – legal assistants and other attorneys, etc. Even though he appears to be a hands on kind of prosecutor, in this instance with such a large report he will want others to review as well and then conference about it and discuss it so as to make sure he isn’t missing any opportunities to tear it apart……
But if it is JSS who needs the transcript why is she charging the Public Defender’s Office for the expedited copy?
Because this is as a result of the Motion that the DT has filed to dismiss the case as a result of the prosecutorial misconduct and Brady violations…….JSS is acting on the defense motion so it is charged to the defense……….
Thank you for the explanation. 🙂
Who cares what office it’s charged to….who’s paying for it…the taxpayers!!
Thanks BB, I was being sarcastic with that remark.
I really wanted to know. I’m a curious cat.
How is Kitty?
She is still at the vet’s. She had to stay overnight, but she is fine the vet said. She is so tiny – light as a feather so I was a little anxious. I miss the sweet little thing.
Hopefully she will have a good night and be home to cuddle tomorrow! 🙂
Thanks RL I’m supposed to keep her quiet for 3 weeks. Good luck with that with her two playmates.
😀
Oh my, well, it is Good she stayed over night then!!! That will take some doing. LOL You might have your own private circus going on.
I watched a bit of Lonnie Dworkin’s (LD) testimony last night. Here are a few things I noted:
He received Jodi’s helio phone on June 30, 2010 and secured it in his own security locker. He could only use “screen captures.” Camera did not have internal memory storage. Camera was “dead,” power dead. It had a memory card (4 gigabytes). Memory card was a compact flash card 1.5 inches by 1.5 inches. He “forensically”copied the memory card using a write block.
Jennifer Willmott (JM) asked: “What were you asked to do to this camera?”
LD: “I was asked to locate images from both allocated and unallocated spaces (i.e., deleted images).
JW: Did you understand the camera was seized from the Mesa police?”
Martinez: “OBJECTION” Short conference between judge & lawyers.
JW: ” OK, Mr. Dworkin, is it your understanding that the camera came from the Mesa Police Dept?”
LD: “Yes.”
The tape “freezes” after “yes” from 26:50 to 27:03 so you don’t hear LD’s complete answer (same thing happened on another version on Youtube tape although the freezing starts seconds earlier on youtube tape).
Discussion goes to how LD received camera. The camera was inside a camera bag inside an “evidence bag” (evidence bag was simply the camera bag wrapped in brown paper with ID “stickers???”) on the outside, i.e., Property of the Mesa Police Department. There were signatures and dates as to when & who opened the paper wrapping (evidence bag).
LD: “I see there are are numerous markings around the bag. I don’t recognize the signatures but…??? (difficult to hear what he’s saying here).
JW asks when camera was “impounded” (secured into the evidence locker).
LD: “July 21, 2008”
Discussion of 4 photos (I think the numbers are 413, 414, 415 & 417). One photo is of Jodi with a black dog. Later on the tape Martinez says this photo is “predjudical” to the prosecution and wants it omitted but JSS allows the 4 photos.(another photo was of Jodi and a girl with red hair).
Discussion goes to markings on the photos.
LD:”This information appears to be file system information. The difference is file system….the camera itself…when it takes a photograph it embeds information into the photograph itself about the camera and the camera setting so that you can look at the digital file and ???” (couldn’t hear clearly) and make & model of the camera, date & time the picture was taken & digitized & saved, possibly information about camera settings, shutter speed, aputure and some have GPS , global positioning and may include the location where the picture was taken.”
LD: “File system data is a little bit different it has to do with managing the photograph on the actual memory card or hard drive. It captures the date & time the photo was saved or moved or was copied, it’s current location.”
I stopped about 33:00. I used two versions of trial videos. The one here at JAII (#13) and a Youtube version by “eonblue 3” where LD’s voice seemed clearer.
The missing part almost seems like another edit like CH at the hearing.
Yes, Carol, I agree. It seems suspicious when there is a flaw on the tape at a key part of testimony. There was a missing part on another tape on this site last week but I can’t even remember what the topic was right now. I was going to report it to ADMIN but then I put it down to a blip. Since everyone can access the trial tapes, I wonder if it’s possible to alter the videos on JAII? Hopefully, the court has a pristine video copy of the trial. I notice some of the trial videos on Youtube are altered although the claim seems to be that it’s just “approach, please”conferences with JSS, coffee & lunch breaks that have been removed for convenience.
There was a hearing where CH was testifying and part of it was missing from every copy on the internet. It was like JM shut the camera off.
Thank you CC53 thank you for this. Besides I was happy someone else had the same issue’s I did.
Why do you think JM didn’t want the pic. of Jodi brought into evidence?? Did they show that she had brown hair and perhaps was just a normal girl. Oh was it because she was dressed????
Cindy,
I think b/c it shows Jodi as a happy normal young woman who likes dogs. Martinez wants to demonize her & “slut shame” her so the jury will see her as immoral, a liar and violent (she kicked a dog when she was young – Martinez was probably hoping he could get the dog kicking info to the jury but I don’t think it was allowed but I could be wrong. It should be noted that Flores didn’t consider kicking a dog would make her a violent person when she mentioned it during her interrogation although this may have just have been a ploy on his part to be nonjudgmental and establish rapport with her).
Yes, Willmott (later in the video) shows photos of Jodi with brown hair with blonde highlights on the front and some where her hair is just brown. She definitely illustrates Jodi had brown hair weeks before June 4, 2008.
That’s what I thought also.. ..he is such a dirt bag.
Actually, I guess the jury did get the dog kicking info b/c it was on the interrogation videos and they were played to the jury. I’m not sure if every minute of the interrogation videos were played for jury though.
cc53,
Your explanation makes so much sense to me. Yesterday I spent about 4 hours with that day 13 video, and I thought it all had to do with (now missing) memory sticks, and the particular strange copy of Compaq that Dworkin received from Mesa – rather than the obvious retraction of saying that he found porn on the computer.
Here’s my theory for what it’s worth: When the Defense came up with the allegations of cover up by the Prosecution, it was such a leap to think how much evidence had to be manipulated to pull that off that it was considered by the courts to be preposterous. That would be the biggest injustice in all of courtdom; it simply couldn’t be true.
Then with the evidentiary hearings, it was getting scary, but still too awful to believe. Now the pieces are starting to really come together and the judge is looking at this in a more judge-like way, and really doing some homework on it, albeit still looking for ways that it could not possibly be true that the Prosecution did that.
People here were actually saying ‘What happened to JenDiaries? She’s not herself.” The TA supporters changed their tune some – just in case this fiasco could really be true. Otherwise they would have egg all over their faces and various other body parts.
Right after Dworkin testimony on the vid was BN’s. His CV is so-o-o impressive. That guy is in demand around the world! I had forgotten all that. It was so nice to see it all on video instead of assorted tweets, but at the same time I realized how the tweet version lets me get a life whereas the vids I was salivating – sometimes rabidly – over every moment the trial was on.
After BN’s testimony came the beginning of Jodi’s testimony. It is so touching. I’m sure that’s where I got my conviction that she was innocent and never lost it. I highly recommend a re-watch of that one – all on the first vid from day 13 here. Keep your Kleenex handy….
Dec 4th hearing
William Pitts @william_pitts • 4m4 minutes ago
Neumeister asks if he heard Martinez say correctly that Dworkin’s copy was created in 2008. Wilmott says yes. #JodiArias
William Pitts @william_pitts • 5m5 minutes ago
Neumeister asks why all the files on it say they were created in 2009? Wilmott: good question. #JodiArias
Geez. It just gets weird and weirder. Am I just dreaming this trial?
CC53 Yes I think it can get stranger…and I’m sure we will see it happen very soon.
So confusing. Everything is just so confusing….. 🙄
Dreaming, no. . . We are traveling through another dimension. . . . ………..we just need to hang on. . . I think I see light at the end of the tunnel……….♥
R. I think you might be right. Look at everything JODI has been through and she is still hanging in there. WE ARE WINNING!!!!
R. Baton down the latches, throw another log on the fire…..it’s going to get ugly….
Yes, it will be ugly but we just need to hang on and know the truth is with Jodi and this farce will not go on forever! Jodi will be Free!!! ♥
BTW I told you to keep your weather up there!!!!!! 🙁 It’s going to get COLD TOO!!!!!!!
Good point, CC! I also remember a tweet where BN says something like, ‘It all depends on what kind of hard drive copy Dworkin received from Mesa PD.’
In the #13 video Dworkin was certainly not happy with how difficult it was to work with the copy he was given. He said, “Only forensic copies were provided to me by Mesa PD.”
Another interesting note is during Jodi’s testimony at one point they are waiting for the jury and Jodi leans her head on her left hand and her fourth finger is bent up in the air. As a piano player, I tried to emulate that pose and I had to physically manipulate my 4th finger to get it in that position.
Just sayin’…………………… 🙂
AND! I almost forgot. Dworken had to pull back an evidence sticker from the camera to see when it was impounded as evidence. The date was JULY 21, 2008!!! Where was that camera for the almost 2 months before that??? I believe that’s the camera that had all the “end” pictures on it.
That really is creepy.
Who was the third party who had messed with it . . .it wasn’t anyone from the DT. So who?
R,
Dworkin described “numerous markings” on the evidence bag (I think the markings were the names & times various people accessed the evidence bag) and he said he didn’t recognize any of the names – which makes me wonder if any of them were local people if he didn’t know them or even computer people. And, if so, why were people going into the evidence bag if they weren’t computer techs?
CC53, I heard him say that also. Now who and why we’re so many people handling the evidence?
Exactly, then who? AND why were the Hughes messing with Travis’s email account and etc.???
From Nov 21st Hearing
BN: I think whoever imaged the drive and gave it to Lonnie, did an improper image. I believe what Dworkin got was not a raw file. If Encase was used, they didn’t do a raw data recovery. There’s a good chance they didn’t get any of the deleted stuff. JM: You’re guessing? You don’t know? BN: There’s only one way Dworkin could have missed it–if he wasn’t given a raw image of the drive. It’s impossible to miss it. There’s so much data, Juan. It’s packed with porn
The misconduct in this case will take up 7000 pages.
YES, CC!
That was the word I couldn’t remember! Dworkin said he received the Encase file from Mesa.
Thank you. I didn’t want to go back through the whole video again to fin that word. Even though there was so much testimony about Encase, I never really understood what the difference was.
Found a clearer copy and here are two parts you were missing. (D Lohr )
20:02 – LD actually picked the camera up in the courtroom. Was it your understanding that it was seized from Mesa Police? Objection, here say. JW: Not for an expert. (Sidebar) JW hands him evidence and asks him if this up he picked up, and he answers “yes, this is the shopping bag”. (JW spoke over him a bit) JW: Sorry, I interrupted you, what is it? LD: This is the shopping bag I picked up and inside is the camera case and inside the camera case is a Canon (DSLR ?). JW: How do you know that it was something that was seized by Mesa Police Dept? LD: Well, there are markings on the bag, um it’s printed here in the upper right hand corner of the bag it is formerly printed it says Mesa Police Dept. Property and Evidence Tag etc.
21:37 I know from my experience having worked with Mesa Police Dept. before and received evidence, it’s a common practice that when they open an evidence bag, whether it’s actually a shopping bag, or maybe something a little smaller, the person opening it and responsible for it, will typically sign their name on it, and put the date when they accessed that evidence item. Um I’ve participated with them in that process many times. And so, I see that there are numerous markings around the bag. I don’t recognize the signatures, but I’m sure we might be able to figure out who had access. JW: Does it have information as to when it was originally received? LD: It has a date of impounding, which is actually different than seizing date, I believe. Impounding date is when it’s secured into their evidence locker. JW: What’s that date? LD: Date of impound is July 21st, 2008.
In all honesty, I believe that the dynamics of any relationship would change drastically if one or the other parties was caught masturbating to pictures of children by their mate. I believe all trust would be lost on both sides. The person caught would never be able to trust that their mate would not rat them out at some point and the person doing the catching would never be able to trust their mate around any children. Both sides would then always have their guards up and that is no way to live. It would turn them against each other even if they loved the person unconditionally. It could easily turn to domestic violence even if there had never been any before. It could lead to paranoia for the person being caught, leading them to have to control the other person or stalk them if they tried to leave. What a mess it would be for both sides.
Jodi was the WOMAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH. And it was very dangerous and ended in the death of TA. He had every reason to keep Jodi close at hand (and every reason to be enraged at her and want to kill her) bc he was deathly afraid of her revealing the truth of his pedophilia to the world. His life, reputation, and livelihood was dependent on a false image of the good, virginal Mormon……….
I agree with you BB. What I find a difficult time believing is that media and so many people cannot understand these dynamics. I think it is easy just ask yourself what you would do if you caught your mate masturbating to pictures of children. What would change in your relationship?
I think the main reason people don’ t understand the dynamics is because they don’ t want to understand them.
They are invested in their agenda to see Jodi how they want to see her. People who thrive on the energy of hate and blame, do not want to give up that momentum, and maybe a lot of them are not conscious of how that momentum and drive have obscured their ability to perceive.
Martinez won his case by inciting that momentum in the courtroom. Most any jury in any court- room would take it as a matter-of-course that probably a high percentage of defendants would lie initially. They would know it is human nature to do so in such instances, and they likely would admit to themselves, that they might also lie if they ever found themselves in a dire position. They would not unduly and disproportionately be prejudiced against the defendant because of lies.
But Martinez hypnotized the jury into a trance with his very simplistic method of rageful, indignant repetition.
I think of how common it is for a person to be far more influenced, and taken over by, the music of a song, than the lyrics of the song. The lyrics might never completely be deciphered or registered by the consciousness of the listener. Even the expression, “swayed by the music,” translates as ‘persuaded by the music’.
Martinez’s trickery is/was so crudely simplistic, but often pandering to the lowest common denominator is what works.
Entertainment media depicts prosecutors in a ‘worshipful’ way. In most any other profession or segment of society, such narcissistic, bullying, self- aggrandizing, exploitation of power over the vulnerable, would be looked at askance, but ‘the lowest common denominator’ venerates power.
The ‘lowest common denominator’ enjoys vicariously living through that power, so much so, that they will accept, rationalize, and encourage corruption and unlawful tactics by the prosecutor and police, because they feel the ends justify the means.
The crime- entertainment faction of news- reporting/ journalism, might smugly dismiss the defense’s allegations against the prosecutor as ‘games’, but the allegations are not games, ploys, or tactics. The allegations are real, substantial, and ARE a matter of life or death.
But the irresponsible crime- entertainment faction of the media, do very much view it as a game, because that is how they reap the most rewards.
‘Glorified gossip columnists’ posing as real reporters/ journalists might gloat and delude themselves into correlating ‘numbers’ [ of readers] with credibility and prestige, but the reality is opposite.
On any given day, fewer people read, and are capable of reading, Shakespeare, than people who read something equivalent to the quality and substance of “The National Enquirer”.
You are 100% right when you describe Martinez’ strategy. What he did wasn’t brilliant or ingenious. It was simplistic. He had no hard evidence. He had no case of premeditation.
Yet, he had charged her with M1 and he needed to raise to the occasion, so to speak. He resorted to something simple: blowing the defendant’s every deed out of proportion, tranfosrming her into a mythical creature. The pathological Liar, the evil Seductress, the monsterous Femme Fatale. By the time she was on that stand and by the time her defense experts were on that stand ALL her credibility was basically non-existent. So, when she talked of catching TA doing *that* (puke), she wasn’t believed and I guess the jurors never ever got to the point of having to think of the dynamics changing in that relationship. It’s like wanting to go from A to Z but believing there’s not road after C…. You’ll never experience the rest of it 😉
Well to be honest he had painted a picture of Jodi to all of his friends. He didn’t have to worry about them. No one would believe her just like none of them believe it now.
That is a stumbling block for me. She was the only woman he had some control over. He didn’t want her to be with anyone else. He had been rejected by Mimi . He’s the one who was jealous.
That is another thing Cindy Jewell. Mimi just wanted to be friends yet TA insisted on her going to Cancun with him. Her brother, Dave Hall was in Vegas when Jodi got there. Remember him? He was the gun lover.
LOL! We could never forget Dave Hall the notorious boulder roller! He was one of the first in the blood thirsty mob to point his finger at Jodi to the media. I do not think he missed a chance to be on the sick HLN network until fate turned on him and he became the object of ridicule. 😀 At the time, I always have thought he was deeper into this than anyone knows. I suppose you heard the Hughes and him aren’t friends anymore. Not that I know them personally but a while back it was noted that they weren’t friends on FaceBook. . .Travis and his supposed friends were devious characters IMO. I do believe there a two sides to every character on the State’s side. 🙄
My recollection is that Mimi and Dave aren’t related, but just share the same last name. Lucky for her.
Journee would remember, I thought Mimi was Dave Hall’s sister, too. Not sure.
I did, too, R. Could 2 rocket scientists be wrong?
Heavens NO! So funny!!! 😀 Simple R. & CC53 the Rocket scientists! ROF LOL!!!!! ♥
Marie “Mimi” Hall ( was sister of Dave Hall, right, first prosecution witness ) *Correction not true, April 2014, wrong assumption! *
This correction is in the Jodi Arias Detailed Wiki About the Case, but I’ll do some more checking.
Mimi testified that they met in church after she gave some kind of speech and he went up and started talking to her. It she was Dave’s sister, TA would have been after her when she was 16.
Hummmmm Dave and Mini ARE siblings….Poor girl…
Where is “Jodipedia” when we need her? That was your term, wasn’t it, R? Cool.
I’m not the Pedia woman, but how could they meet in church if she were the sister of his best friend? I know they’re all his best friend – but it sounds like they met as strangers to me.
No but it is fitting, our own Jodipedia! . . .She is probably off writing an encyclopedia or something! I’ll email her! 🙂
Oh I might have this wrong but wasn’t Mimi going to take care of the cashes kids? Or was that before she and TA were to go.
Well now isn’t this interesting….the Alexanders broke up with the Cashes and the Cashes broke up with Dave haha
I told you they would all start turning on each other. . .wonder who will slide sideways under a bus next?
Well your guess is as good as mine..So anyone know what good old Dave is doing now?
I do not believe he is a Boy Scout Leader anymore!!!!!! 😆
Opposition yes I remember all of TA’s friend’s.
Exactly.
Seems to be several mentions of Dave & Mimi Hall being siblings online but no proof or anything official. I think if Mimi was Dave Hall’s sister and Travis mistreated Mimi, he would be a dead man. But, I had the sense their relationship was platonic and Mimi felt Travis wasn’t marriage material (I think b/c he refused to grow up and act like a mature Mormon man, or something).
Also, I read some place that Mimi was more spiritual than Travis and took her “religion” seriously. No hanky-panky with Mimi.
How old is Mini?
On the stand, Mimi was asked extensively on the rules of the church by Nurmi. She sounds like a very sweet, serious woman who is deeply spiritual. When she testified in 2013 she was 31, because she testified she was now going to the family group meetings.
Mimi had known TA for a year approx. before his death after she moved into the ward. She had 3 dates with him, Barnes & Noble and hot chocolate, painting pottery and rock climbing. She did not know that TA had ever been in trouble with the church.
” Barnes & Noble and hot chocolate, painting pottery and rock climbing”
For real???? Oh, Travis Travis…………. Oh, the HYPOCRICY!!!! Playing Mr Right Guy with the virginal Mormon girls when deep down you were the Devil incarnated.
BTW, Mimi Hall would never give TA the time of day, at least for too long -let alone agree to marry him. She’s a smart girl. Seems poised, serious, well-mannered, bright and yes – very spiritual. I’m amazed she even agreed to go on 3 dates with him.
I’ve always liked her, well as much as I can like a prosecution witness/friend of TA. LOL!
Maria, I was thinking the same thing about their dates. I
Canada Carol, I’m sure she is a nice young lady. Smart not to get involved with Travis other then friends. I thought her behaviour was a bit odd at TA before the police were called. But how do any of us know how we would act given the circumstances.
I can’t help to think that maybe something big will happen tomorrow!
((((((Vicky)))))) praying it will!!!!!!! ♥
Hey R. Love! (((R. Love))) JSS needs to step it up tomorrow.
Brand new Arizona Governor, Doug Ducey, Jan, 2015. ………..And, a new day for Arizona.
…Also, President Obama is coming to town (actually in town right now), and scheduled to meet with the new Governor and also speak at Central High School in Phoenix.
…Yes, Judge Sherry Stephens, now is your time to shine, and your ((best)) chance to be recognized worldwide ((as fair)), along with the fairness of Arizona ((although rather late but at long last)):
…………….VACATE the Jodi Ann Arias verdict and dismiss with prejudice.
Judge Sherry Stephens can be (with one vote) more powerful than the Vice-President of the United States. …The VPOTUS is also the President of the Senate & can break a tie vote. …But, Judge Sherry Stephens can overthrow a majority vote of 12 jurors, vacate the Jodi Ann Arias verdict and dismiss the entire guilt case WITH PREJUDICE, where Miss Arias can walk out the front door, never tried again.
…That is what the VPOTUS does, …..That is what powerful and fair judges should do more often.
…I am optimistic one day at a time. …Arizona can be fair, if it has powerful and fair judges.
I AREE! 😉
I will have to wait for any exciting news until I return from my appointments tomorrow….Thinking good thoughts 🙂 🙂 🙂
“Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.” Deuteronomy 31:6 ((((((JODI)))))
Amen !
R. Thank you for that passage. That is PERHAPS the best one that explains what JSS is going through. This will be her career changing ruling!! I also am a bit fearful for her personally.
May God give her the wisdom!!!
May God five her the Wisdom, Grace and Strength it will take to do the RIGHT THING!!!!! ♥♥♥♥♥