Jodi Arias Retrial, Day #20 (12/11)

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1. Good morning. Anxiously awaiting the days events.

   • Congrats on #1 and welcome D ! 🙂

   • I think we’re anxious and curious to see what will happen today!

     Hi there D!!!! Welcome 🙂 🙂

     • Hi maria, what did happen, anything? I had to go to bed. I should be asleep now, woke up with it on my mind. At some point the judge has to get that DP off the table, it’s ridiculous the way they’re dragging it out.

2. :-). I don’t post often, but I am usually here keeping up with the goings-on. Just signed on and saw no one posted so I took the opportunity to try to be first commenter. :-).

   • Hey there D! Congrats on first comment!

     I too am anxious to see what today will bring us!

     • Thanks, Pandora.

3. Good morning Jodi, Sandy, Bill, family, DT and team Jodi!! I hope everyone had a restful sleep.

   Mr. Prosecutor aka the “slimy frog” I have a message for you: “oh what a tangled web we weave when we set out to deceive”.

   • Indeed it is, Cindy!

   • Too true, Cindy!

4. Congratulation D. on being first! 🙂 🙂 🙂

   • Thanks, Cindy!

5. Your welcome D. Should be a interesting day. I wounder how many lies the frog can pull out of his bag today….. He certainly had a few days to come up with some……

6. I cannot believe all he has gotten away with already and I cannot believe there has been no punishment for all the unprofessional behavior and perjury. This has been the most unfair trial I have ever seen.

   • IMHO This trial is headed to a mistrial. It’s just a matter of time. I personally don’t want JSS to end up sentencing Jodi. I want Jodi to have a new trial…..

     But what do I know..

     • Yah, but we want a new FROM THE VERY BEGINNING trial and she’s gotta be sentenced before that can happen. So JSS should just get on with it – JSS can’t put her on death row.

       And we also need for Juan Martinez to go down in flames before Jodi’s retrial happens.

       • Where is the damn ‘LIKE’ button?!!!

         I totally agree!!!

         • LOL It’s on the tips of your fingers….

       • That is what I am praying for. But I’m not sure why JSS has to sentence her first?? Are you talking about the appellate court?

         • I mean Jodi can’t start her appeals until she’s been sentenced.

           • I know that but …… if it is ruled that there was misconduct and I’m going to take a leap here and a mistrial is called how can the judge sentence Jodi?? I already know the answer but I like being delusional at times……

       • LIKE, LIKE, LIKE!!!!!!!!!!

   • It’s actually mind blowing, and down-right scary, what all has gone on in this trial. This would never fly in my State……at least I would hope not.

     • It sure wouldn’t in my state either. But I think they wouldn’t seat a Judge without capital case experience.

       • It sure wouldn’t fly in my country, let alone my continent.

7. I don’t want to piss in anyone’s cereal but I am so disappointed in Arizona’s corrupted justice system that I fear that the prosecution, the judge and all that have been involved in this bogus trial (and want to kill Jodi) will find a way to get out of their fuck ups! Their jobs are on line… they’ll do whatever it takes to ‘worm’ themselves out of this. I wonder how far ‘up’ their ‘powers’ of authority reach… at some point they will hit the wall of fair justice, that is a sure thing! Just hope it’s really soon!

   ((((Free Jodi)))) ♥

   • Yes, Pandora, I think Martinez is going to make this very ugly.

     We’ve seen what he’s capable of when it comes to getting a guilty verdict at any cost – won’t WON’T he do to save his own sorry ass. This will be very ugly.

     • Journee I think you are right but I honestly think the DT has the goods on him. How many times did the DT file the same motions and JSS just ruled against time???

       • Oh Pandora,
         They have gotten away with so much already so I have that fear as well. This isn’t the first death penalty trial that the State has gone under misconduct scrutiny in Arizona. They HAVE gotten away with it before so your fear is justifiable. Let’s hope our fears will be proved wrong.

8. Cindy, I have been meaning to ask you, you use to have a ‘brother’ here. I think it was Al. Am I mistaken? Have you been communicating with him? If yes, send him my love and tell him that he is very missed here!

   ((((Cindy & Cindy’s JAII brother)))) ♥

   • Sorry honey he isn’t my biological brother. Al was just one of my family on the site. No dammit I haven’t heard anything more then you have from him. I do hope all is well with him. I honestly think he’s out here just not communicating.
     No one could have been this invested in Jodi, the trial and just walk away…..

     I often think about him also..

     • Maybe if we “click” our heels together Al will appear!!! (((((AL)))))

       • Hummmmm. If only…:-) 🙂 🙂

       • I sort of remember someone named (((AL))) on site, have not seen any comments in a while. Guess AL is just catching up on reading. …I do that sometimes. …I admit there is a lot of stuff here that I cannot possible read & keep up with. …Especially when the trial got into all these tweets & re-tweets. ..But, we all seem to be headed in the right direction, telling the world that the one person who is MOST TRUTHFUL (as much as humanly possible) & innocent, is Jodi herself. …Drop in (((AL))) & say hello, click-click on the REPLY & POST COMMENT buttons.

     • One of my favorite commenters during the trial.

       • Jaz, He sure did know what he was talking about…weird music selections..LOL.

         • LOL Cindy! I was going to mention Al as being the one who would start out the day with a music selection… he was the one who linked tons of Grateful Dead tunes wasn’t he?

           • Yep. That was him. 🙂

9. Didn’t we end with the POO aka dumb s*** crying I didn’t do it??? I don’t push any keys on that computer….

   I would love to seenone of the DT to just ask him who did?? There were 4 peoplein the room at the time. Three of you have have testified under oath that you didn’t do it..so who officer is left??? Hummmmm.

   Now I have been thinking about this for a week now…what expert could the frog possibility get to discredit Brian’s testimony??? Someone from the FIB or Oh wait hasn’t Brian done work for those departments ???

10. JM’s strategy has always been to confuse the jury and deflect from the real truth. KN and JW need to be on it with all the details to un-confuse the jury….Go DT ! 🙂

11. Florinna you got some ‘splainin to do.

    • Land…..that’s for that…

12. My morning Inspirational read LOL somehow it spoke to me (this coming from the plumber’s wife 😉 )

    “The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer.” ~John Madden
    It’s often enticing to dream of Easy Street as having finally made it. But Madden reminds that it’s no picnic getting there, and you have to pay your dues. Things do become easier, but you may have to put up with a lot of stinky situations before getting there. Most people will give up before getting there, and spend too much time in the sewer, thinking that Easy Street is just a pipe dream. But the unpleasant parts are just a way of weeding out those that really want the prize from those that only talk about wanting it.

    Jodi and her Defense Team have certainly had their hands full trying to weed through all of the poo that has come flying at them through out this trial!!!! It is time for Jodi’s easy street! My prayers are with Jodi, her family and her Defense Team! One step at a time, forward we go. . . . .♥

    • ((((R.Love)))))

13. Technology is a black and white issue and the evidence cannot be swayed by a bullying little man who can push around his mouth piece witnesses. He can dance and hop around all he wants, it doesn’t change the facts.

    Nurmi and Jen, take no prisoners today. Don’t be at all nice to these liars!!

    • I think they have had enough of his B.S…They are way past being nice. Their going in for the kill step by step….

    • The cold hard facts only matter if the judge is capable of understanding the technology. If she isn’t, or chooses to pretend she isn’t, the it boils down to which expert she chooses to believe.

      • Do you think that since this is her first capital case that she might have a mentor???

        • Well, lol, I have no doubt that someone’s telling her what to do, if that’s your question.

          But I”m not sure any kind of mentor could replace the EDUCATION she might need to sort out the technology here, to determine which experts are to be believed.

          JM is used to snowing juries with fancy footwork, ‘dueling experts’ are part of every trial. One major trick he relies on is discrediting the witness. But he faces a problem with that HERE because the state often relies on BN’s expertise – if he succeeds in undermining BN’s credibility to the extent that he appears to be TRYING to, he could very well put his own past convictions in jeopardy.

          So what we might see – which could actually be very entertaining if we could actually watch it – is attempts to confuse the judge with ‘stupid’ – kinda like he did with the Snow White debacle.

          • Very, very valid point…now that would be a snow ball effect..hehehe. I don’t think that she is buying into it besides I’m sure she knows that Brian would never ever put his reputation in danger.

            I wish we could watch it live also…but…

          • Like the ”incinerator’ program?!!

      • She didn’t get to be a judge by being a dummy. If you listen to those judges speak of Martinez about his five other cases of misconduct in the higher court, she is not the first to have problems keeping him in line. I believe I saw in her eyes, a complete understanding of what was happening.

        I cannot wait to hear from his expert to see what they have come up with, but I have absolute confidence in BN and his work.

        • Ok now tell me how many of those 5 cases did he win?? If he didn’t win just one why is he not disbarred??? Or are they still on going???

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76iN6zn_3qc#t=156

            • Thank you very much for that!!!!

14. SW my heroine is now exposing Jarrett & Jen for accusing the defence of releasing the juror’s name and all the fallout of her good name. How far will these #@%^^ _ go is starting to really blow my mind.

    Another Inconvenient Truth.

15. I don’t know how these things are supposed to work, what the protocols and procedures are, but it seems to me that, if the judge is to be the decider, the finder of fact in this case, she should be asking direct questions of these witnesses, especially if there is disparity in what they have to say.

    Wouldn’t you think?

    • One would think…and I’m not all that smart..I think it falls under common sense.. Daaaaaa

      • I don’t understand why the Frog is able to ask questions, isn’t it all about his guilt? To me it seems strange he is allowed to drill the experts, but then again I’m not up on all the things about the law.
        And then the Arizona Law (or lack of) is really a WEIRD experience!

        • Think of him as a lawyer representing himself –

          of course we all know what they say about THAT, but in JM’s case there’s probably no one else who’d represent him anyway.

          So that’s why he gets to ask questions – this is a legal action against him and he gets to defend himself.

          • Seems he would be smarter than that. I suppose in his eyes their is no one better than him. Hopefully his arrogance will get the best of him. 🙂

    • If I were JSS, I’d listen to pros and defense experts, then appoint my own expert or experts to investigate and report to me. That way she’s off the hook. Is there some reason she can’t do that? My impression is that courts often hire their own experts, but I could be wrong.

      • I am not a computer expert at all but I understand that Perry admitted there was porn on TA’s computer, and his testimony of deletions had to do with BN’s working copies which are irrelevant. Florinna admitted that he was the one that woke the computer at the scene. Just a lot of smoke. So far, it’s not even a close call. They also smashed the camera and lost SIM cards conveniently.

16. Are we ready to ROCK THIS JOUNT!!?

    • *JOINT….lol sorry haven’t had coffee yet

      • Well Dorothy grab a cup and sit back and read how the frog jumps around trying to avoid the frying pan…

    • ROCK ON !!

17. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 32s 32 seconds ago

    Waiting on defense and #jodiarias #3tvarias

18. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 21s 21 seconds ago

    Say what you will but I have to say that #JenniferWillmott always dresses classy

    • She certainly DOES…gotta love JW

19. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 5s 5 seconds ago

    #jodiarias is in stripes and Detective Flores is back on stand for cross with Jen Willmott #3tvarias

20. Flores is on the stand waiting for JW’s cross……

21. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 43s 44 seconds ago

    Det. Flores is taking the stand, all present, no jury and #JodiArias in stripes

22. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 32s 33 seconds ago

    Back in #JodiArias courtroom. Jennifer Willmott begins cross examination of Mesa PD detective Esteban Flores.

23. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 38s 39 seconds ago

    JW asking Flores questions about the integrity of the crime scene and that all have to sign a log if they go into the scene

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 46s 47 seconds ago

      Jen is asking Flores about his knowledge in procedures by the Mesa PD #jodiarias #3tvarias

      • Breaking the rules of evidence in a crime scene has been wrong with this trial from the very beginning.

24. I SOOOO wish I could hear this myself.

25. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 38s 39 seconds ago

    Willmott begins by asking Flores how many years he has been a police officer (21) and asks about rules for crime scenes and evidence.

26. Martinez will do anything, and I mean ANYTHING to cover his ass.

    I agree with Journee, get ready people: this is going to be UGLY. That SOB frog will twist everything around and will have others lie too. make no mistake. 😉

    Let’s just pray (for there’s nothing more we can do) that someone in a superior post is watching this mockery of the American judicial system and will soon take action.
    🙄

    • Hi Maria, I too hope that this mockery of a trial will indeed draw attention by an unbiased party who will set things straight. It is a classic example of our “injustice” system.

27. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Jen is asking Flores if most important thing is to protect evidence. Flores responds Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

28. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 10s 11 seconds ago

    Flores: One rule-dont turn on a computer if its turned off and vice versa. Dont open or close any files or run any directories #JodiArias

29. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 15s 15 seconds ago

    Willmott is asking about when police 1st seized computer. She states u don’t turn it on or off correct? Flores- correct #jodiarias #3tvarias

30. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

    Flores states he was the one that woke up the computer when they first saw it #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • AHA!

      • There’s something we’ve been wondering about . AHA indeed!!

        • *It’s

31. Katie Conner @KatieJConner
    Detective Flores: Protocol when dealing with computer: officer will determine if comp is on or in sleep mode. on

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 43s 44 seconds ago
    Flores says that it is within evidence protocol to “wake” a computer and says he did so with Travis Alexander’s at the crime scene.

32. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 30s 30 seconds ago

    No still camera in the courtroom today #JodiArias

33. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 57s 57 seconds ago

    Det. Melendez noted he found activity on computer 6.10.08 at 10:26am (Flores did wake up the computer) #JodiArias

34. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Flores- knew computer was in sleep mode when he looked at it. It’s not against policy to wake up computer then call forensics #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 16s 17 seconds ago
    Flores says he didn’t do anything else with the computer. Forensic’s showed up an hour after he woke computer up #jodiarias #3tvarias

35. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 6s 7 seconds ago

    Defense gave Flores a list of things they wanted to see and he gave the list to the evidence section for the first viewing #JodiArias

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 11s 11 seconds ago

      Flores says defense wanted to see the electronic evidence. #jodiarias #3tvarias

36. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    Det. Flores says that Alexander murder was the first case he handled where he brought defense to look at electronic evidence. #JodiArias

37. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 42s 43 seconds ago

    Willmott says well they looked at journals also but Flores says 95% was electronic devices that they looked at #jodiarias #3tvarias

38. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
    The purpose for checking out evidence is always noted in the evidence log. #jodiArias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 36s 37 seconds ago
    Willmott is putting up the chain of custody sheet for TA’s computer #jodiarias #3tvarias

39. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 17s 18 seconds ago

    50% of the time the evidence personnel doesn’t make sure who is checking out the evidence and just guesses the dept. #JodiARias

40. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 11s 12 seconds ago

    The evidence department must not know the difference btw Forensics and Investigations bc makes several mistakes on log sheet #JodiArias

    • Seems the prosecution is trying to pass the buck. “was the first case with electronics” “was the evidence dept fault, not mine”

41. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 22s 23 seconds ago

    Willmott walks Flores through a log of the police personnel who checked the computer out of the evidence locker. #JodiArias

42. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 18s 19 seconds ago

    Det. Flores tries to downplay the evidence Dept.’s lack of vigilance by saying at least the name is correct though dept is not #JodiArias

    Say whaaaaaaat?????

    • Florinna has tried to downplay many things, NOT the first time!

    • Huh…I bet they ALL knew about the porn and were checking out the computer for their own…personal… “reasons”

43. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

    Couple minor errors on this sheet but WHO checked the computer out is correct #jodiarias #3tvarias

44. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Testimony goes so much smoother when the questions are clear and the witness answers instead of argues #JodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
    JW & Flores going through the sequence of what happened during the defense viewing of the dvid #jodiarias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
    Det. Flores: no indication that the defense team did anything improper with the evidence #jodiArias

    • 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

45. Question: they had to wait first search warrant…who did they give it to….

46. something’s wrong here –

    20 mins in and no sidebar?

    I gotta a baaaaad feelin about this y’all

    • Martinez is awfully quiet ….hmmm

      • Awfully, awfully quiet……. I’m really getting worried.

        • No objection coming from kermit yet???? Woah… He has taught Flores really well.
          I bet they spent all previous days REHEARSING their lies!

          • yah – kinda looks like PIO is set up to take the hit again, doesn’t it?

            • It certainly does.

47. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
    During the defense viewing the evidence Flores was there but he said he was going back and forth. #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 3m 3 minutes ago
    Willmott asked if Juan was there the whole time and Flores stated yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

48. Katie Conner @KatieJConner
    Detective Flores: I didn’t leave defense team with evidence but I was walking back/forth to get more evidence

    • That’s a contradiction in itself, asshat…

49. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

    As defense requests an item Flores gives it to them. Flores says he didn’t plug in computer or turn it on #jodiarias #3tvarias

50. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
    Det. Flores did not plug the Compaq Presario into the power cord or into the wall and DID NOT turn computer on, defense did #JodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 46s 46 seconds ago
    Det. Flores was present in the room when the computer was on but he did not call forensics to come to the room #JodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
    Flores knew image had already been taken of computer so he wasn’t concerned with losing info, he felt safe bc had original copy #jodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 43s 43 seconds ago
    Flores knew nothing of a “write blocker” bc he is not a computer person #jodiarias

51. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Flores says he did not plug in the cord or turn on Travis Alexander’s computer when defense came to look at it. #JodiArias

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 20s 21 seconds ago
    “I had a little bit of a concern,” Flores says of turning on the computer, but, “I felt safe because we already had a copy.” #JodiArias

52. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 42s 42 seconds ago
    Flores says he can’t remember which defense member turned it on. #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Flores had concern it was on but an image was made of computer hard drive so it felt safe #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Flores says he wasn’t going to tell defense how to view their evidence #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • The integrity of the evidence was the responsibility of the state. AT ALL TIMES. Their idiocy is NO excuse.

53. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 32s 32 seconds ago

    Det. Flores did not stop defense from turning on computer, “didn’t interfere with their investigation” and didnt call forensics #JodiArias

54. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 46s 46 seconds ago

    Flores: Defense atty was manipulating pictures on the computer, JM and Flores did not stop attys from doing this #JodiArias

    • “manipulating” ?

      • Play on words…….

55. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 55s 56 seconds ago
    Flores knew how to turn computer off. You remove battery and unplug computer. #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 29s 30 seconds ago
    Flores- It’s called a hard shut down and he did that after defense was done viewing #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Flores doesn’t remember seeing Juan on computer at all. He says Juan was off to side taking notes #jodiarias #3tvarias

56. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Flores says he did a hard shutdown of the computer when defense was done looking at it. Doesn’t remember if Juan Martinez looked at it.

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 47s 47 seconds ago
    “I don’t remember anything about nude photos,” Flores said. It wasn’t an issue… at that time.” #JodiArias

    • Ya, right, Flores, like you really tell the truth – NOT!!!

      • Not only do I not believe SOME of what Flores & Kermit say, I don’t believe ONE word that comes out of their mouths!!! THEY are the TRUE LIARS NOT Jodi!!!

        STOP this CRAZY ASS FARCE of a trial NOW and just FREE JODI ANN ARIAS like she should be freed!!!!! Quit wasting TIME!!!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

57. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 57s 57 seconds ago

    Willmott asks if Jodi told him about nude photo’s or porn on computer.. Flores says no he doesn’t remember that #jodiarias #3tvarias

58. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 18s 19 seconds ago

    Willmott keeps saying you didn’t do anything to stop defense from turning computer on #jodiarias #3tvarias

59. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 2m 2 minutes ago
    FLores: remembers JM off to the side with a note pad while the defense was looking at computer, no instructions to leave computer alone

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 2m 2 minutes ago
    I do like how Flores will answer the questions, good or bad, without emotion and even tone #JodiARias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Flores was concerned that the computer was turned on but that he didn’t do anything to stop it bc he can’t stop the defense #JodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 52s 52 seconds ago
    It doesn’t make sense that Flores was concerned but felt he couldn’t stop defense from touching computer… #jodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
    cont. Flores could have put the viewing on pause to call forensics and figure out what to do #JodiArias

60. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 45s 46 seconds ago

    Flores says they had an image already of hard drive so it felt safe #jodiarias #3tvarias

61. someone refresh my memory. did the original defense atty say that it was JM that handled and touched/pushed the keys on the computer???

62. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 44s 45 seconds ago

    Jennifer Willmott asks Flores if a phone call can be made without a SIM card. He says many phones work without. Like Alexander’s.

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 11s 12 seconds ago

      Willmott is asking about missing SIMS cards from phones. Flores- Travis’s phone didn’t require a SIMS card #jodiarias #3tvarias

      • Huh??

63. When the evidence is in the possession and control of the state it is THEIR RESPONSIBILITY to see to it that nothing is damaged/changed/lost/destroyed……

    • BB ! EXACTLY!

    • Odd that Flores knew how to safely shut the computer down and did so! But, as he stated he knows nothing about computers and didn’t turn the computer on!

64. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 5s 6 seconds ago

    Flores says it took two years and a software update to extract the text messages from the Alexander phone without the SIM card.

65. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago

    Flores: TA’s pocket phone did not need a SIM card #JodiArias

    • Another way for TA to cover his trail of secrets??

      • Must have been an older phone…phones weren’t like today’s phones.

    • Didn’t BN say it had to have a SIM card to work??

      • I thought so but that needs to be checked……..

66. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 4m 4 minutes ago
    It wasn’t noted there wasn’t a SIMS card on the phones #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Katie Conner @KatieJConner
    Willmott: At no time do you ever document that the Motorola phone (#TravisAlexander phone) did not have sim card

67. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 13s 13 seconds ago

    Flores gave permission to force the door on a digital camera to “get tape out.” #JodiArias

68. Does anyone remember what the original defense atty stated about who touched the computer and handled the computer?

    • I thought it was mentioned but went back and couldn’t find it.

69. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 54s 54 seconds ago

    Flores: he doesn’t know if anything was preserved from the video camera before Melendez “broke” the camera #JodiArias

    • WTH

      • Exactly!! Okay so everyone is pointing the finger at the other side, but BOTTOM LINE is that the evidence was tampered with the the detriment of Jodi’s defense and ability to defend herself in violation of her constitutional rights. If the court concludes that it can not be determined whose fault it is, that is a side note to the ultimate fact that this exculpatory evidence was not available to her for her defense and the court must remedy that with a new trial …

        • A new trial won’t do her a damn bit of good if that crook of a prosecutor is still at the helm.

70. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

    When the video camera was collected it wasn’t broke. Melendez says he had to force the door on the camera open to get to tape. #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 32s 32 seconds ago

    Willmott- But you never contacted defense to see if they wanted to view it? Flores NO #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Tape?

71. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 21s 22 seconds ago

    Willmott is done. Fore redirect, Martinez just asks Flores if it’s his job to tell defense what to look at. No. Recess.

72. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
    JM to Flores: is it your job to tell the defense attorneys how to review the evidence? A: No. #JodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 15s 15 seconds ago
    In theory-if Flores had any real concern that evidence was being altered he could have stopped that from happening in reality – he did not

    • EXACTLY! It was the State’s responsibility to ensure the safety of the evidence !!!!!

73. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

    Juan get’s up and says “Is it your job to tell defense how to view evidence? Flores – NO 10 min recess #jodiarias #3tvarias

74. That made no sense to me. Didn’t he just contradict what the 1st Defense attorneys said happened?

    • It”s a he said she said but it isn’t going to matter in the long run as the evidence was not available for Jodi’s defense…….New Trial !

75. Keep in mind that the defense would NEVER destroy exculpatory evidence…only the state would do that!

76. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 40s 41 seconds ago

    Martinez just called a witness to the stand, Perry Smith, a computer forensics expert for Mesa PD. #JodiArias

77. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Perry says he’s been working on computers since he was a teen #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 16s 16 seconds ago
    Perry says he’s never bought a computer he makes them all. He’s been doing this for 20 years #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Yes but what are his credentials? His professional experience?

      • Noticeably absent for a good reason……..he has none

      • yah – has HE done work for the FBI????

78. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 41s 42 seconds ago

    Perry joined Mesa PD in 2009 #jodiarias #3tvarias

79. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

    Perry says he had 9 months of training and testing and then an exam to see if he retained the knowledge #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Sounds like Tot Doc. LOL

      • WE shall call him Tot Tech

        • Agreed. 🙂

    • Exactly….a young computer “expert” with no formal education……

80. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 32s 32 seconds ago

    Perry was given an image of TA’s computer. He looked at the image and took a look at the drive to see what’s on it. #jodiarias #3tvarias

81. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago
    Smith looked at the drive. He is referring to the wrong drive that was accidentally sent to Mesa by defense expert Neumeister.

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 29s 29 seconds ago
    Then Smith says he found “live files” that could be changed.

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 57s 58 seconds ago
    Sidebar.

    • Why don’t we focus on what the state did in the 5-6 years that this computer was in their possession?

      • Because that would actually make sense.

82. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 16s 16 seconds ago

    Perry says the defense experts incorrectly conducted their investigation. Hard to follow right now. #JodiArias

    • GMAFB….must be tot doc’s brother.

      • Not to worry this will all be cleared up when the true facts come out on cross……..

    • OMFG! Pass the popcorn! This is a comedy! The Tot Tech is questioning the 30 yrs+ experienced expert?!!!! 😀 😀 😀

      • Tragicomic deja-vu… 🙄

      • i think the prosecution is counting on JSS having NO idea what is going on…which will probably be the case.

83. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
    State expert explaining what a “live file” is. The second hard drive given to the state had live files on it, not just an image #JodiArias

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 7s 7 seconds ago
    Expert – investigation is supposed to be make an image of the evidence, it freezes the evidence in time, no “live files” #JodiArias

84. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 54s 54 seconds ago
    Expert: “write blocker” a device that prevents you from making any changes to electronic media. #JodiArias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Hardrive #2 just had live files. These files could be changed and this was not how a forensic investigation is conducted. #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    An image should be made and it should contain a frozen image in time. I was given info that could be altered #jodiarias #3tvarias

85. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 49s 49 seconds ago

    Smith says it’s impossible to make a clone with a writeblocker.

86. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 48s 49 seconds ago

    Perry was told the drive he was given was a clone. Juan- the person that was working on hard drive #2 did they use a write blocker…-NO

87. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 51s 51 seconds ago
    The 4th hard drive was again contained live file. Hard drive 2, 3, 4 – did they contain the same things? #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 27s 27 seconds ago
    Perry- No. Content between 2 and 4 were different. Content between 3-4 were different also #jodiarias #3tvarias

88. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 42s 43 seconds ago

    Smith says the content from one clone to the next and the next was different because they weren’t writeblocked. Says he needs he original.

    • Didn’t the court make BN make the different copies with the “dead” space stuff??

89. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago

    Expert: hard rives 2,3,4 from defense and they all had diff content on them. #JodiArias

90. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

    Perry- I needed an original of what Bryan Numeister was working with. It would let me know what the changes were he made to it #jodiarias

    • No dude, he needed a copy of what the hell was on the computer to begin with………..SMH

      • I believe that BN said that state had/has the original and that this is what BN was working with….this makes sense. State is trying to deflect responsibility for their mistakes and misconduct

91. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 51s 51 seconds ago

    And we arrive at the image that Martinez demanded last week. Smith has “no idea” of the original that Bryan Neumeister examined.

92. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ

    Perry is looking at Lonny Dworkin’s work. Perry says it was an image and it was created Dec. 2009 #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • So AFTER the two improper ons and offs…

93. Did we just go through all that without 1 sidebar?!?!

94. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 27s 27 seconds ago

    This expert cannot make any conclusions re material given by Neumeister bc he needs to see what Neu started with #JodiArias

    (I call that stalling)

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 31s 31 seconds ago

      You still need Numeister’s original correct? Perry YES #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • What a load!

    • Why can’t he look at the clone that the prosecution has? Didn’t the prosecution save the 1st clone it made? And, didn’t they make a clone from the first clone to send to Neumeister?

95. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 43s 43 seconds ago

    The Dworkin drive has exact image of the hard drive and the drive 2, 3, 4 are clones #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • FALSE!!! Pandora can you speak to your insider at will? Like NOW?

      Because a copy made in Dec 09 is NOT the copy Flores referred to a few minutes ago, the one that made it safe for the former DT to mess with the computer in Jun of 09

      • SMDH…….

96. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 45s 46 seconds ago

    Martinez asks about unallocated space in the clones. Willmott objects since Smith hasn’t fully examined.

97. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 32s 33 seconds ago

    So, this expert is essentially saying Neumeister did not take images of the hard drive correctly #JodiArias

98. Didn’t that lil sh*t just say a few minutes aga they weren’t clones?? Say what??

99. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ
    They are discussing unallocated space and my brain can’t handle this lol #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 55s 56 seconds ago
    In 2008 TA computer was 55gb and the info from drive #4 only had 20.9gb of information #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    It tells Perry the unallocated space is missing #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • BN already explained that, you dipsh*t

    • Looks like prosecution is doing its usual……”confusion tactic”

100. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 52s 53 seconds ago
     Smith says the fourth clone has 30 gigabytes less info than the original, the unallocated space.

     Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
     Expert: The image file from 2008 is 55.9GB; the info on drive 4 total 20.9 GB (35GB missing) unallocated space is missing #JodiArias

     • BN explained all this already !!!

     • lol…monica L refers to Perry Smith as “expert” hah

     • So now this expert is using the terms “image” and “clone” interchangeably?

101. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 19s 20 seconds ago

     Wait, now Smith says someone added something to clone 4. He found a file that “shouldn’t have been there,” unavailable in Windows XP.

     • OMG…………this is getting out of hand, SERIOUSLY!

102. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
     while examining #4 he found “incinerator.” This was within the “live files.” The file was not introduced until Windows Vista and Windows 7

     Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 53s 53 seconds ago
     cont: and it was not introduced in XP which was the file system on TA’s computer #jodiArias

103. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 50s 50 seconds ago
     Juan- Did you see an incinerator? #Jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 21s 21 seconds ago
     Perry- I noticed that file in there & it shouldn’t have been there. The file was not introduced till later and not in the Windows XP system

104. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

     Incinerator was not available, right? Martinez asks. Smith goes, “ummmm…”

     • Ummmmmmm…some expert you have there, Juan……..

       • Maybe they didn’t rehearse THAT particular line.

         GRRRRRRRR!!!!

105. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 26s 27 seconds ago
     Smith says the incinerator document he found was in the recycle bin, which he says was not introduced to Windows until after XP.

     Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 24s 25 seconds ago
     Expert: Incinerator folder he found was in “recycle.dot bin file” was not introduced into Windows operating system until after XP #JodiArias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 41s 41 seconds ago
     The incinerator folder was in the recycle.bin file. That file wasn’t introduced until after XP. #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 10s 10 seconds ago
     Perry- It just couldn’t have been present on original hard drive it didn’t exist #jodiarias #3tvarias

106. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago

     Expert looking at printout of his computer showing the live files from drive #4 #JodiArias

107. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

     Willmot says that was on a working drive that Neumeister was using to do analysis. She says it has nothing to do with whether porn was found

108. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 45s 46 seconds ago

     Willmott argues that these drives and working files have nothing to do with the missing files on TA’s computer #JodiARias

109. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 52s 52 seconds ago
     Martinez says “That’s why he destroyed them,” of files Neumeister said were wiped. Willmott says to look at original.

     Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 25s 26 seconds ago
     #JenniferWillmott says the original evidence has not been changed #JodiArias so this line of questioning is irrelevant

     • Pan please see my post to you @ 9:55

       • Done! 😉

110. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 32s 33 seconds ago

     Willmott keep objecting and Jodi keeps talking to her after she’s overruled #jodiarias #3tvarias

111. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 39s 39 seconds ago
     Martinez shows the menu item of incinerator on clone 4. “Someone manually tried to remove the incinerator,” he says.

     Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 6s 7 seconds ago
     That could account for 70,000 files, Martinez says over objection from Willmott. #JodiArias

     • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago

       Juan- This happened Oct 22, 2014 at 10:16pm #jodiarias #3tvarias

112. I wonder if Neumeister is present for this.

     • No he can’t hear any other witness testimony until he’s done.

       • Thanks Cindy, if he were there, I bet he’d be rolling his eyes at this ….ahem…expert’s expertise …

113. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
     Juan- What’s the significance to it being recycled #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
     Perry- That folder was present on drive and then deleted. There isn’t any info at all, no data in the file. #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 24s 25 seconds ago
     Juan- So it could have been 70,000 files? Perry- Yes we just don’t know. It was modified in the recycle bin #jodiarias #3tvarias

     • I cannot even view something in the trash on my apple computer. I have to take it out of the trash to view it. Is a PC different?

114. Clones, images, copies, …JSS is surely confused by now, (along with the tweeters and many of us) if not totally tuned out.

     • JSS isn’t getting this – I guarantee you that.

       • If JSS isn’t getting that, …how can the jury understand it? …mistrial?

         • I don’t think this part goes to the jury – this is evidentiary for prosecutorial misconduct

     • And that’s *exactly* what Martinez is aiming at!

       • Martinez is probably confused as well. Let’s hope his foolishness is proven and Jodi comes out the victor.

115. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 3m 3 minutes ago

     Expert: Hidden means hidden from user’s view unless you know how to unhide it. #jodiarias

116. It is quite simple. Look at the original that was given to the defense. That was NEVER altered…the porn was ALWAYS ON THERE… this is just all deflection from the real issue of there being tons of porn on TA’s computer

     • Exactly…………

117. Michael Kiefer retweeted
     William Pitts @william_pitts · 3m 3 minutes ago
     But it sounds like his evidence to support that has nothing to do with Travis Alexander’s actual hard drive… Only the copy. #jodiarias

     Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 40s 41 seconds ago
     Wiillmott again points out that these things have nothing to do with the original drive, only the versions that Neumeister was working on.

     • Willmott MUST be baffled at the direction of whole line of questioning…this Smith guy is NOT qualified.

118. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 16s 17 seconds ago

     10/22 at 11:32pm the incinerator file was modified. #jodiarias #3tvarias

119. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

     Smith says almost 9,000 files were modified on working clone. Willmott’s irrelevance objection again overruled.

     • WTF? Overruled….anyone surprised? Pfft

120. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 21s 21 seconds ago

     Expert:hash value-string of numbers letters that depict the information/data. its basically a fingerprint of electronic data #JodiArias

     • let’s add “fingerprint” to Clone, Image, Copy….ugh

121. William Pitts @william_pitts · 48s 48 seconds ago

     Main problem is that there may be no original image of the hard drive before the computer was turned on to compare. #jodiarias

     • That would be the state’s responsibility and liability, not the defense. And no doubt that some of the porn was deleted as a result, HOWEVER THERE WAS STILL TONS OF PORN ON THERE and the state claimed there never was…..

       • BB, you took the words out of my mouth there.

122. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 42s 42 seconds ago

     The registry won’t hold what a person is doing day to day. If a person is punching the keys is it in the registry? #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 20s 20 seconds ago

     Perry-No….that is in history #jodiarias #3tvarias

123. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago
     Smith says that just because something is on the registry, it doesn’t mean the user went there. It could be the anti-virus program.

     Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 19s 19 seconds ago
     Q: if theres an indication of website on registry is that an indication the user went to that website? A: No. #jodiarias

     • I call BS……

       • What a crock of SHIT!!
         So, what is he impying? That TA never went to those porn sites?? That it was the anti-virus program instead?

         • Yep!

124. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 29s 29 seconds ago

     Smith says that the drive was damaged. Martinez is done.

     • Michael Kiefer retweeted
       Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 57s 57 seconds ago

       Juan- What happened when you went to make an image from TA hard drive? Perry- It was damaged #jodiarias #3tvarias

       • Yeah! isn’t that the point here? The damage was done…the state was responsible for it’s integrity, End of debate….NEXT!

     • Ahhhh, the PUNCHLINE!!
       Martinez ”triumphantly” steps down? He thinks he has everyone fooled. Well, guess what? He may fool Pickles coz they are best buddies but he isn’t fooling any of us.

     • But…Flores just said minutes ago he wasn’t worried because there was a copy of the hard drive. But… it is also possible that the State did not preserve evidence correctly! The real question is: was evidence damaged or destroyed?

125. they are going to need to bring back BN as a rebuttal to all this nonsense

     • Is that allowed happening?

126. Katie Conner @KatieJConner
     Defense teams asks for a recess

127. I am screaming in my head. Is anyone else ??

     • No, I’m yelling out loud at the computer screen, lol.

       • I would do that but my husband is trying to watch TV…. 🙂 🙂

     • Raises hand!!!

       • I’m just rolling my eyes 🙄 Martinez thinks he has one-up on the Defense Team…He is SUCH A DOLT!

128. BN’s credentials are impeccable. JM found a young computer tech with no formal training that he felt he could manipulate into saying what he wanted to get on the record to fool/confuse JSS….JW needs to come back full speed ahead……..

     • Just like baby TotDoc.

       • I hope she does get back on the stand so JW can handle her like she did last time. I get such a kick out of going back and watching you-tube on that.

129. Journee, go to vent page. I posted sth for you there!

     • Pandora, how can I get a password into Vent pages?

       • By SJ or admins

         • Thanks!

       • Bystander,
         you have to send an e-mail to the admins.

         • Thanks, Maria! 🙂

       • I have always wondered the same thing as I can never access 🙂

     • 😀

130. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 4m 4 minutes ago

     We are on a break before Jen Willmott does cross #jodiarias #3tvarias

131. Don’t worry people the frog is trying to confuse the judge.
     Why on earth would he use this guy for a expert witness?? You would think he could have gotten someone with more credentials.. Oh wait the defense team already has the best………

     • Same ole shit!!! Just like Tot Doc VS Dr Samuels and ALV. Pfffffff…..
       Martinez hires the less experienced and most fame-hungry!

132. Hoping the Frog doesn’t call in anymore from the Tot Squad: http://youtu.be/Cvxpe6ZiquI LOL
     We all need a good Laugh! Take a deep breath, this too will pass……..

     • 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 Thanks..

       • I can only imagine what the Defense Team and Jodi must be thinking!!!!
         Good Grief what a slimy FROG!

         • They see right through this…..

     • Thanks, R. Love!!! I really needed to be reminded that, THIS TOO SHALL PASS!!! I hope VERY SOON!!! I can hardly stand the corrupt, deceiver – the frog and ALL his deceptive ways & he is stupid enough to think no one knows how he is twisting the truth!!!!!!!

       • ♥♥((((((((MARJA)))))))♥♥ I knew you were here!!!!! ♥♥

         • 🙂

           • Hang in there!!! Much love to you!!!! ♥♥♥ 😉

133. Me thinks we are all thinking the same thing…lol

134. My question is: If this judge is out of her realm here, how is she qualified to judge on such matters? Shouldn’t there be an unbiased panel of qualified computer specialists there to set things straight and discuss their findings?

135. Journee, I got a reply. Go check it out in Vent page.

     • thanks!

136. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

     Willmott begins her cross examination of Smith, first asking about protocol in dealing with computers at crime scenes.

137. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 32s 33 seconds ago

     Willmott shows Smith a copy of Mesa PD policy and asks him to read to himself.

     • 😉

138. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 2m 2 minutes ago

     Believe JW is trying to show that Flores should have known better than to allow the computer to be turned on #JodiArias

139. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
     Willmott want’s to talk protocol and dealing with the computer Perry- Yes I understand protocol. #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 38s 38 seconds ago
     Willmott has the Mesa PD policy manual and Perry is reading it #jodiarias #3tvarias

140. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 47s 47 seconds ago

     The policy clearly says to secure the area and not to turn computers on or off or open files or access registries or discs.

     • BINGO !!

     • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 13s 13 seconds ago

       POLICY: Computers- Secure the area around computer. Do not turn on/off attempt to opne/close files, run directories…cont…..#jodiarias

       • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 36s 36 seconds ago

         COMPUTER POLICY- or access computer diskettes, CD, DVD’s or any other storage device #jodiarias #3tvarias

141. My question: If JSS is out of her realm here, shouldn’t there be an unbiased panel of qualified computer experts present to discuss and reach a unanimous decision? Having someone make a judgement in this matter who is not qualified in this and is probably not quite getting this doesn’t seem legal…IMHO

     • Good point, but I think they are stuck with JSS deciding on all this …….

     • That’s what I was saying earlier – ‘legal’ maybe but somehow not proper, the judge should at least be asking questions of these experts IMO

       • The judge hopefully will get a lesson, maybe an out line, to educate her. This is beyond most people. If she is ethical at all she will recuse herself on the grounds that she has no understanding of the topic at hand and how detrimental a qualified judgement is to the fairness of this trial.

     • I don’t know if it’s legal or not, but it sure makes no sense. It takes specific knowledge of a particular field to understand all this computer mumbo-jumbo, how can she decide who’s telling the truth?
       Oh wait, I don’t think we’re in a for a big surprise. Maybe we already know whose side she’s gonna take. Puke!

       • Maria move over! Quick! I need that puke basin!

142. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 19s 19 seconds ago

     Maintaining status quo doesn’t hurt-keeps something static. Stopping a viewing in middle of it to make sure no probs is maintaing status quo

     • What??

     • Monica, you need to stay out of the courtroom and go report on traffic or something.

143. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 9s 9 seconds ago

     Willmott presses Smith on whether it’s ok to wake up a computer from sleep mode at a crime scene. He says it is under some circumstances.

144. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
     Perry says waking a comp from sleep and turning on is 2 different things. Perry says in certain circumstances it’s OK to wake up #jodiarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 10s 10 seconds ago
     Willmott asks how many times have you done that? Perry- once Willmott- Without a write blocker? Perry- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

145. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 15s 16 seconds ago

     Expert: u can wake up a computer at a crime scene, which is diff than turning it off/on #JodiArias

146. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 22s 23 seconds ago
     Smith admits that the best course of action is to take the battery out and cord off the computer.

     • And Det Flores did NOT do this at the scene…………

147. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 21s 21 seconds ago

     Perry says you can wake a computer out of sleep and it could be added to the guidelines. #jodiarias #3tvarias

     • Added to the guidelines?

     • This guy now wants to change the “guidelines” …..Wow what arrogance !!

148. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 42s 43 seconds ago

     Willmott gets Mesa PD computer guy Smith to admit that waking the computer changes files and deletes cache files, among other things.

     • Thank you, Mr. EXPERT.

     • Exactly what was done by the state, not the defense…….

     • BAM!!!!

149. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 44s 44 seconds ago

     Waking up computer changes files, could delete files depending on types of programs running, cont.

     Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 23s 23 seconds ago

     cont. diff pings could be happening to diff web sites. it could cause overwriting – all could happen if it is woken up #jodiarias

150. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 36s 37 seconds ago

     Perry- Waking up a computer isn’t the best course of action. Contacting forensics is #jodiarias #3tvarias

151. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

     Willmott- If TA computer was woke up out of sleep mode it was modified correct? Perry- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

     • By yours truly, Flores!!

152. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 55s 56 seconds ago

     Willmott then gets Smith to say it’s a violation of policy to turn on the computer and presses him as to letting “civilians” do it. He balks

153. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

     Willmott- If someone from Mesa PD turned on computer does that violate policy? Perry-Yes but it doesn’t include defense turning it on

     • Prove it was the defense that turned it on. It is a he said, she said….

154. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 23s 23 seconds ago

     Expert: The evidence was modified and changed on 6.19.09 #JodiArias

155. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 34s 35 seconds ago

     Willmott- Without a write blocker and the computer is turned on it is modified correct? Perry- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

156. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 35s 35 seconds ago

     Willmott gets to the copies. “They’re not the actual evidence are they?” Smith: “No, they’re not.”

     • Oh, here we go……..

     • GO JENNIFER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

157. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 20s 20 seconds ago

     Willmott asks if Smith has the exact image of the original hard drive at Mesa PD. Yes.

158. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 35s 36 seconds ago

     Willmott gets Smith to say that the drives he examined were copies that were worked on, not the original evidence.

159. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 21s 22 seconds ago

     Expert:copies from Neu are nothing more than working copies, not images. not talking about the image/actual evidence. #jOdiArias

     • I bet the frog is fuming……….

160. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 49s 50 seconds ago

     The copies u have of the hard drive is an analysis correct? It’s not an exact image? You have the exact image correct? #jodiarias #3tvarias

161. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago

     Perry- Yes and analysis not exact image. I have the exact image from 2008 #jodiarias #3tvarias

162. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

     Willmott- When you talk about these 9,000 modified files & the incinerator it is just on the copies that have been worked on correct? Yes

163. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago

     the 9k deleted files have nothing to do with the actual evidence from 2008, JW pointing out its irrelevant #JodiArias

     • 🙂

164. Michael Kiefer retweeted
     Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 2m 2 minutes ago

     Willmott points out these copies or clones are meant to be worked on. Smith agrees. #JodiArias

165. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 6s 6 seconds ago

     Willmott asks if porn was found on the 2008 image. Long pause, then Smith says yes. And that it’s not the same as the clones.

     • Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago

       Expert: evidence of porn have been found on the 2008 image #JodiArias

       • THERE IT IS!

       • In YA FACE KERMIT!

       • YES!

     • Case closed!!

     • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 28s 29 seconds ago

       Perry- It’s a describing link and Det. Brown did find some pornography on the computer.#jodiarias #3tvarias

     • BAM!

     • CAN ANYONE SAY “MISTRIAL” !!!!

166. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 11s 12 seconds ago

     Martinez redirect: Smith repeats that list of porn sites on registry doesn’t mean the user went there.

     • Oh, give us all a frickin’ break!

167. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago

     Juan- But the links are on the registry correct? Perry- Correct except a YouPorn link #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 17s 17 seconds ago

     Juan- You were asked about Mesa PD guidelines. Does it address def attorney’s and their right to look at computers? Perry- No. #jodiarias

     • Did JM just ignore Perry’s answer and move on quickly !! LOL

168. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 33s 33 seconds ago

     Juan- Does policy in 2013 talk about waking a computer from sleep Pery- No it does not #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 13s 13 seconds ago

     Juan- You found the incinerator on the working copy correct? Perry- Yes. #jodiarias #3tvarias

169. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 42s 42 seconds ago

     Martinez repeats that the incinerator file in the recycle.bin file could have been 70,000 deleted files.

     • Irrelevant……..

     • JW needs to re-direct on this garbage

     • Martinez has NO clue what he is talking about. It is SO obvious.

     • Smoke and mirrors to divert Pickles’ attention!

170. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 30s 30 seconds ago

     Juan- It could have erased 70,000 files? Perry- Yes it could have been anything #jodiarias #3tvarias

171. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 58s 59 seconds ago

     Back to changes on Neumeister’s working copy versus the original. Martinez calls it tampering.

172. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 42s 42 seconds ago

     Juan- Couldn’t it be tampering by having this incinerator program on there? Perry- Yes #jodiarias #3tvarias

     • Tampering on a working copy???? OMFG! This is totally ridiculous!

       • Deflection………..

     • NOT tampering with the ORIGINAL! HELLOOOO!

       • Amen…..

173. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 22s 22 seconds ago
     Willmott objects that Martinez has the original and that the working clones are not relevant. Martinez calls them files that were changed.

     Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 11s 11 seconds ago
     “Counsel, please approach.”

     • Here is where judgy-wudgy admits she is confused… 🙄

       • Lol, lol………

174. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago

     Juan to judge- Numeister has an original and we want it to compare to his copies #jodiarias #3tvarias

     Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago

     Willmott keeps saying the State has the original #jodiarias #3tvarias

     • Stalling, stalling, stalling……….and so irrelevant at this point.

     • FOR THE LOVE OF ALL GODS!!! What the hell doesn’t the fucking frog understand???

       State has original.
       Defense Expert has a copy of their original!!!!

       Please someone! Slap some sense into that idiot!

       • I’ve tried reaching through my screen to slap him silly, but it’s not working like planned.

       • I’m tellin’ ya – he wants BN’s ‘original’ so he can destroy it, literally MESS IT UP so that it’s worthless to anyone. THAT’S why he keeps asking for it,

         • IMHO, I believe that’s exactly why he wants it.

           • I agree 100%. It’s like his manipulative device of ad infinitum accusing about lying; he thinks he can confuse and persude by pretending over and over that he needs that, until the judge is fooled and hypnotized into believing that he does need that.
             He has no scruples when it comes to trying to prosecute someone else. Now that he is facing being charged, he will stop at nothing in his effort to deceive.

           • Can we get back to the aircraft carrier in the room?

         • YES!!!!!!! FIRST thing that popped into my head when he kept insisting on getting it!!!!!

175. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

     Back at 1:30. Willmott has more witnesses.

176. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 2m 2 minutes ago
     Judge just asked attys to approach-overwhelmed or does she now believe the working copies are irrelevant for this issue? #JodiArias

     Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom · 1m 1 minute ago
     State is finished with witnesses on this issue but Defense is not #jodiArias

     • State wants our train to stop…FULL SPEED AHEAD! Wilmott must be sayin, “off the tracks JM, comin’ through!”

     • What? State couldn’t find anyone else to lie and commit perjury?

       • JM better go remove the lifts out of his shoes…it’s gonna hurt more falling from there.

         • 🙂 🙂

177. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 49s 50 seconds ago

     We are back at 1:30pm MST because Willmott has another witness #jodiarias #3tvarias

178. Bottom line – there was PORN on the damn computer to begin with and the STATE with held and covered it up. Period. No amount of deflection with erase that fact. Even JM’s own “expert” admitted that!

     • And Maria Schaffer testified that kermit was looking at the files specifically looking for porn.

       • getting his rocks off, I bet

         • Probably didn’t want anyone to know HE knew it was there….wanted to keep it for his own personal use.

         • Rocks?? Don’t you mean pebbles?

           Sorry, I know I probably shouldn’t have said that…………

           • lol ! love you

       • Sorry CanadaCarol, I read your comment as saying “looking AT porn” vs “looking FOR porn” Yikes…I need to slow my brain down…

       • LOL, but JM was only looking for pictures of women’s breasts

         • So he might’ve missed the files with the child porn!

         • Journee, I think he only ASKED if naked pictures of “women” were found…he failed to ask, or avoided asking about naked pictures of children…hmmm

           • I think he directed his questions that way on purpose -specifically NOT child porn

             But I also think that when he went on TA’s computer looking for porn he was hoping to look at pix of boobs. 😀

             • I bet he was ITCHING to get at them…he just creeps me out…like he could be one of those sickos who would drill holes from mens room to ladies room to peep on them. UGH

       • do you remember if Schaffer stated that it was JM that touched/handled the computer?

         • tes, Schaffer said it was only JM and EF who even touched the computer.

179. It all boils down to this:

     The state got caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
     martinez threw flores under the bus as fast as one can say “you’re done!”
     I wonder what flores is getting in return for being blamed that he first tampered with the computer…

     • fired

       • Along WITH this “computer expert”.

         • Whom, IMHO, royally spilled the beans here.

     • a nice retirement…….

180. Sorry all, I am at work and was away from my desk to read all the posts….thanks by the way

     I am not a twitter guy, but I did see this on the net from my phone, thought it was wicked with passion, go Jennifer!!!……

     I’ll try and copy and paste, hope it works….

     Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 16m16 minutes ago

     Wow, Willmott shot up with a jection. Her seat rolled back into the table behind her it was so powerful and quickly executed. #JodiArias

     • Yes, she’s doing great today.

     • YAY! needed that BC thank you! That is what i am missing…the visual impact, the passion of Willmott…love her!

181. BB asked earlier if anyone knew if the first Defense atty. said anything on the stand about who handed the computer over to her, was it JM? and gave them authorization to turn it on. I couldn’t find it.

     • Schaffer said DT never touched it, it was JM looking at it. She said Flores found the power cord and turned it on. Same with the phones.

       • Thank you 🙂 So it is a he said she said and frankly I do NOT believe Flores when he says it was the defense team that handled and turned on the computer. He is taking a fall for JM in return for ?????

         • Saving face for the State of AZ.

           • That’s a big waste. . .ARIZONA HAS SCREWED THIS ALL UP by letting it continue on and on and on. . . . .

     • I actually want to know if the first defense atty stated that it was JM that touched and handled the computer and not her……anyone know?

       • Tried to reply earlier, but having trouble today with site liking my posts. She most definitely did.

         • Thanks 🙂

     • Here are the tweetis as to what Schaffer testified:

       William Pitts ‏@william_pitts • 4m4 minutes ago
       Schaffer describing the process of examining. Herself, her investigator, co-counsel, etc went to evidence room. #JodiaArias
       Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 3m3 minutes ago
       Flores brought in the evidence #jodiarias #3tvarias
       Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 4m4 minutes ago
       After evidence was brought to room by Det. Flores, Schaffer and Parzych were escorted in. First journals and other writings.
       Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 3m3 minutes ago
       Schaffer says there were cellphones that were plugged in and fired up by Flores. Martinez was there. Then they looked at computers.
       William Pitts ‏@william_pitts • 3m3 minutes ago
       Schaffer says Det Flores plugged in the computers and turned them on. #JodiaArias
       Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial • 3m3 minutes ago
       Maria said there were cell phones that were plugged in and fired up by Flores. After that the computers were fired up. #JodiArias
       Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial • 3m3 minutes ago
       Juan was present in the room as the computers were “fired up” by Det. Flores. #JodiArias
       Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 4m4 minutes ago
       Maria said they looked at cell phones. She says Det. Flores had the phones plugged in and Juan was in attendance #jodiarias #3tvarias
       William Pitts ‏@william_pitts • 3m3 minutes ago
       Schaffer remembers the Juan Martinez looking through the files on #TravisAlexander’s laptop. #JodiaArias
       Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 3m3 minutes ago
       Maria says Flores turned on the computers and Juan was in attendance #jodiarias #3tvarias
       Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 3m3 minutes ago
       Maria says Juan was looking through the files of the computer #jodiarias #3tvarias
       Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial • 3m3 minutes ago
       Juan perused the files looking for photographs on TA computer. #JodiArias
       Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 3m3 minutes ago
       Flores had to find cords for the computers, then he plugged them in and turned them on. Martinez “perused files” in Alexander’s computer 1st
       Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 4m4 minutes ago
       Juan was looking for photos #jodiarias #3tvarias
       Katie Conner ‏@KatieJConner • 4m4 minutes ago
       Witness: there were 2 computers turned on that day. 1 belonged to #JodiArias and 1 belonged to #TravisAlexander #juanmartinez #abc15
       William Pitts ‏@william_pitts • 4m4 minutes ago
       Schaffer says Martinez was looking through the laptop for photos. #JodiaArias
       Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 3m3 minutes ago
       No write blocker was used according to Maria #jodiarias #3tvarias
       The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol • 3m3 minutes ago
       Cell phones and computers were all turned on, specifically that Flores turned on computer and Juan was examining the files #JodiAiras
       Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 3m3 minutes ago
       Maria says Juan said “he’s never seen so many selfies” #jodiarias #3tvarias
       William Pitts ‏@william_pitts • 3m3 minutes ago
       Schaffer says Martinez said he was looking for porn pics on the laptop. #JodiaArias
       Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial • 3m3 minutes ago
       Maria never touched TA computer. She did not stay all the way through until 5pm. Her investigator left early. #JodiArias
       Katie Conner ‏@KatieJConner • 4m4 minutes ago
       Witness: How do you know Martinez was looking for photos? I recall him talking about it while looking at #TravisAlexander computer. #abc15
       Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 4m4 minutes ago
       There was nothing else plugged in, i.e. no “write blocker” to prevent changes in files. There were many selfies. Martinez looking for porn
       William Pitts ‏@william_pitts • 4m4 minutes ago
       Schaffer says they already had the camera pics before Martinez was looking for porn. Says she never touched the laptop. #JodiaArias
       Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 3m3 minutes ago
       Maria says her investigator left the Mesa PD first #jodiarias #3tvarias
       Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 3m3 minutes ago
       Schaffer says they did not stay until 5 p.m. Their investigator left early. #JodiArias
       Katie Conner ‏@KatieJConner • 3m3 minutes ago
       Witness: I recall #JuanMartinez looking for pornography on #TravisAlexander computer. He said something about it #JodiArias @abc15
       The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol • 3m3 minutes ago
       Juan said there were a lot of selfies on Travis computer. He was specifically looking for pornographic files #JodiAiras
       Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 3m3 minutes ago
       The computers were still on when Schaffer and Parzych left the room where they examined computers. Now Martinez does cross.

       • THANKS !!

182. I sure hope that kid has his resume in order…LOL
     But I hope the have someone who can get the goods on the frog..

     • Not everyone is so willing to perjure themselves for JM…….

183. About Perry Smith:

     I don’t know the fellow and I have nothing against him but I have to say that fixing/ building his own computers doesn’t qualify him as an expert in that field! Nor can he question Bryan Neumeister’s knowledge and expertise in the computer forensics field.

     Example:
     I sow/ design a lot of clothes from ‘scratch’, it doesn’t mean that I can go against Giorgio Armani and claim that I use my pink sowing machine and make the same quality of clothing as his team does… I’d be laughed out of his building!

     • That’s what is so odd about the frog ushering him.. Why??

       • because he prefers his witnesses to be stupid and amoral

     • Good analogy, Pandora! It’s laughable who JM has selected and fronted as the state’s “EXPERTS”.

184. The longer this goes on the more likely that those who have the knowledge of the coverup and misconduct by the state will consider their own culpability in this mess and want to correct it………after all who wants on their conscience a death sentence on someone who did not receive a fair trial…….

     • Hummmmm this is Arizona….

     • Sorry, but I have to disagree.

       The people who have taken the stand for the state and told LIES knew all along that Jodi was facing a possible death sentence. They did it anyway – for reasons that were apparently more important to them than morals or integrity or their own consciences.

       • You are correct. But there are others that no doubt have knowledge of this and it is those that are going to start leaking out ……….not necessarily those that took the stand………if you have knowledge and say nothing you are culpable in the death of Jodi Arias whether or not you take the stand…….I could not live with myself if I knew and said nothing….there has to be others like that as well.

185. I wonder if this hearing is ground breaking regarding electronic evidence.

186. A page for the Afternoon Session is now up:
     https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/jodi-arias-retrial-day-20-afternoon-session-justice-for-jodi-arias

     SJ
     Team Jodi #WINNING <<<

     • SJ – where can I email you for a vent page password?

187. I’ve been doing some research on incinerator. It is part of a program called System Mechanic by iolo tech. iolo tech was founded in 1998 and System Mechanic was there #1 prog. The incinerator is a way to directly delete files bypassing the recycle bin. The razzamatazz by techtot is transparent in the respect that the tweets make it sound like it was part of Windows OS, and it was supposedly introduced after WinXP when in fact it’s not in windows it’s in System Mechanic, which I believe came out in 1998 and was used for years before WinXP. TA probably used it to shred his hobbies.

188. The jury for Jodi’s first trial must feel incredibly stupid for being so completely duped by Juan Martinez and his lies and his accomplice in crime Sherry Stephens.
     How ANY one with even ONE functioning brain cell could find Jodi guilty of premeditated murder or murder is any way, shape or form isn’t working with a full deck.
     I wonder how many of those jurors would still find Jodi guilty of anything.after what has been discovered and testified to in the sentencing phase. How can they live with themselves knowing they were conned by a two faced, abusive, dead pedophile and the most corrupt prosecutor and Judge I’ve ever seen.

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