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1. I have read your site, I am confused, do you believe she is innocent as “she did not do this” or are you saying she will not be found guilty in a court of law because lack of evidence of premiditation.
   I have not formed an opinion, all the facts are not in, so I am just curious about your statement since according to what I have heard she has now admitted to being the person that killed this man.
   Thank you
   Liz

   • I think Liz brings up a very good question…can you comment on her post.

     Thank you,
     Steve

     • That’s a good question Liz.

     • I believe Jodi did kill travis, but self defence. Without question. I can’t understand why there is do much untold story and facts ignored by the courts.She does not deserve life without parole. I live in England, UK, this would not happen. There are too many unanswered questions. I am flying to Arizona in August, and would like very much to meet Jodi and offer my support. I will never give up until she is released. God bless you Jodi,be strong. x❤️x

       • Jodi Arias: An Argument for Reasonable Doubt

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   • I believe there is a lot more to this story. no one is disputing she did it as per plea of self defense . the question is was she abused by Travis , and if you are going to be objective you must wait for both sides to present their case. there is so much rush to judgement because of Media Sensationalism.. I have litterally seen comment from individuals that talk of hanging her , is this objectivity or mob frenzy.. The Defense has not even presented and these people want to get their torches and pitchforks without all the facts or medical documentation to her state of mind and/or self es-steam issues due to constant degradation ; She may or may not have been subjected to… my opinion she lied because she was scared the would arrest her crime of passion, perhaps self defense if he had complete control of her self worth as a person . and mental incapacibility. because it happened in the heat of the moment , but its only the first week and a half into the trial… so it’s really all speculation.
     Still you may want to remember Travis’ lies were committed daily against his church and religious practice by not coming clean about their sexual activities. so how decent is this guy if he can lie to his own congregation members every time they meet .. sounds like a hypocritical ,two-faced person to me who is a salesman and knows how to get exactly what he wants when he wants it.. so there you have it .. it’s early give the defense a chance you may be surprised in the end..

     • I appreciate your comments and your sincereity in trying not to form opinions. Having been a court reporter for over 30 years, my greatest concern will be how the defense overcomes premeditation. How is there premeditation? She showed up with a gun. We don’t know if she brought the knife or used one already in the home. So you see my point? On that evidence alone, she has a big hurdle to overcome. Once the defense has presented its case, we will all know what the facts are (or not).

       • In a video, it shows travis talking about having a gun held to his head in a near death situation. ?. That alone would put enough fear in me that I would buy a small gun to protect myself from that situation ever to repeat. Not knowing enough about guns, I would get something small in order to halt not to kill, just as she did….. and since your not out to kill someone, just halt them… I wouldnt have too many bullets just hanging around my house. I believe the location of the gun in his house makes sense.

         • That video he was talking about a dream, it was not an actual incident. Of course the media left that part out as a means to once again whip up the mongers into a frenzy.

           It just makes me ill the lies and distorted things the media are spreading.

           • Its so funny to me that they keep interviewing TA friends and they say, Travis Did NOT own a gun, we KNOW that. Really???? Like you KNEW he was a virgin????? Hmm

             • Jodi I have decided I am behind you I was fairly upset by your testimony and thought you should have been a little more angered by the way he treated you.. I am so against the way they are making Travis into such a saint .. He seems a little like a David Karesh type figure. telling you what is and isn’t acceptable. I am sickened by the media sensationalism and mob frenzy from the HLN crew. I am sorry for you I have been there and I hope you win..

               • I am a supporter of Jodi at least so far. I think they are trying to paint Travis as a super good person and I don’t believe that for a minute. I believe he manipulated Jodi with sex probably promising marriage just so he could have what he wanted. I wish he hadn’t died in that way and I feel bad. I think she did do all of the killing in self defense and I believe her mind will not let her remember after the gun went off. I know she lied twice but I don’t think she is a pathological liar or a sociopath.

               • I came across this all by watching a movie one day,did not realize it was based on a true story till it finished.I was sad it was true.What Jodi should done is gone and seen his Bishop and told on him,and just to make him think twice use Omo washing powder and washed his clothes in it and let him itch for a few days and then had nothing to do with him again,and then today she would be happy and not in jail.I am not into the killing thing no one should ever hurt another living soul.I do believe it happened in a heat of the moment and she lost the plot ouch and did the un’thinkable and killed the young man.I am blessed to live in a country where our Prime Minister can sit in a park and eat sandwiches ,his wife made him ,no bod guards no guns no one will hurt him how cool is that.There is a site that just made me sick the stuff they are saying on the subject is really bad and cruel they really need to get a life,what will happen will happen I have prayed it will be Gods will not mans only GOD really knows what was in her heart at the time .On your American coin it says in God we trust then lets trust God he is the Boss not us.Its really sad what has happened ,I wish the movie had not been real ,I am only watching kids films from now ,on, in saying this i am pleased to see not everyone in America is a full of hate.Let all your prayers be for both families.

               • Don’t leave Ava, stay awhile and read more because everything you viewed in the Movie was false. The movie was not real. You might just change your mind about Jodi. Jodi is not a murderer but is someone who was attacked viciously and fought for her life against a horrible attack. Self defense is not a crime. Jodi is a victim of abuse and now is being abused by the Arizona justice system. Please continue your prayers for Jodi, her family and also that the Alexanders to will realize the truth which is right in front of them. Thank heavens God is in charge and in his time the truth will be unveiled for all to see. I appreciate your point of view!

             • Yet according to one person they went out target shooting all the time . If he liked to go target shooting its not unreasonable to think he might own a gun

               • And he collected knives too. of course I only read this. IF yu need rope to tie someone up then expect it to bite you in the ass later, exspecially if you use it to sodomize and take pics of your heinous act, so you can jack off later. Wouldnt’ you scalp someone like a banshee indian?

             • Good one!

           • The story he is talking about is irrelevant, the way she is disconnected is where it seems strange. This doesn’t have any bearing on the actual trial. Just like the video of her doing handstands in the interview booth at the police station.

             • I did not think anything of her doing that head stand. She had been sitting there for hours and needed to stretch. Looked to me that was a good way to straighten out her back.

           • WHAT? A DREAM? Those c*cksuckers. How have I gone this long and not known that! Eff. I absolutely loathe HLN. Ugh. And what kind of self-obsessed a-hole tells a room full of people about a stupid DREAM?

             • Travis Alexander

               • right and he cared so little for Jodi that he ignored the fact she was asleep on his lap, hinting to him, hey maybe we should go up to bed, but he was in heaven, he had his audience and his captive audience, right there on his lap, right where he wanted her for all of them to see. It was like hey, look at me, listen to me, I got you all to listen and this tired girl is staying put like a good little slave, ugh

               • Did he tell her she couldn’t go to bed? That’s horrible! Making someone stay up just because YOU want to be with your friends! The least he could have done was send her up to bed if she was TIRED! He should have let her go to sleep while he continued to talk to all of his men friends! She didn’t have to STAY there, and I’m sure she didn’t like being in that room full of just men! He should have seen that she was bored, and that the men weren’t paying any attention to her anyway! HOW SELFISH it was for him to keep her from getting some sleep! A CONSIDERATE boyfriend would have said “I want to talk to my friends…why don’t you go to bed and get some sleep…I’ll be in later!” A CONSIDERATE boyfriend wouldn’t have made her keep her head in his lap!

         • Travis was stupid. In the end he sealed his fate.

       • They “Claim” she showed up with a gun, but they don’t have any gun to support their claim. Number 2 They claim the knife wounds killed him, not the gun wound , and they claim the gun shot came last. So the gun means premeditation? I don’t see the gun as being any hurdle to overcome because the state claims she did not use the gun to kill him, she used a knife.

         • Why was the thumb print, on, the ejected brass, acid etch, not, entered into, evidence…??? Why, was the fact that there were no gunpowder particulates, in the combined blood, handprint,not, mentioned, in, the sdocalled, trial ??? Why was the fact that, Jodis, alleged, foot picture, taken by a third pasrty, not, mentioned, in the trial ??? Why, was the, praying hands, duct tape, not, entered into the trial ??? Why, was the venom, fraudulently, claiming, bogus facts, then, proved, bogus, causing, a reversal, about face, 180 degree, shift, not, mentioned, in the trial ??? Why, no emphasis, upon the bloody boot print, obviously,also proving, a third, or, fouirth, party, was at the crime scene, and, neither, called the police…??? Why, weren’t Jodis, phonecall records, entered, to prove her, whereabouts, while the blood was drying ??? Dozens of reasonable doubts; none of which, made it to, the trial… Why’s that…??? Edgar…

     • Brace yourself for the anti-Jodi spammers..
       Under their view, Nancy Grace is God.
       Lady can do no wrong. She was an attorney once, wowie!
       Luckily, some of us realize fraud when we see it.

       So we don’t share the popular opinion. So what?
       How is an obvious abuse victim at so much fault?
       I shudder to think how I’d react to that man.
       There’s more to this story than the media tells you!

       • Nancy who?

         Are you referring to the old has-been mentioned in this article?
         http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/cnn_nancy_grace_sinks_even_lower_T6mCnvgJeuIYYj5isnBjbL

       • There was some info on one of the media sites showing Nancy Graces record when she was an attorney. From what I read, she wasnt a very good one. The article interpreted to me that a judge was furious with her for her antics and that somehow she has lied about when her fiance was killed. If thats true, and if she lied about that, she would lie about anything. If she was a great attorney that loved upholding the law, why is she now on a show that is viewed by most people to be nothing more than her pushing her twisted opinion of how things are or should be.

         • Hey, imagine my life then….my mother sounds like, kinda looks like, and acts like Nancy Grace and my mother likes it! So imagine ha ha, what I went through as a kid! I did nothing wrong and he-he-he, I did nothing right!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol!!!!!!

       • There is so much more to this case that does not fit in. I know Jodi says she killed him in self defense but this whole thing is just not right. The roomates, the smell, how calm the 911 call was. putting him back in the shower, No clothes, no gun, should have been alot of bloody foot prints. And for some reason the state does not care about any of this stuff?? There is just NO WAY around this roomate stuff. Is the timeline really right? How can you sit in a house for almost a week and not smell something terrible? He bled out for gosh sakes . Even blood smells and also that much blood should have soaked through some where. “SOME THING” just does “not” sit right with me. And how was Mimi allowed to get up on that stand and repeat only things she heard outside from the others like it was her own personal knowledge? I wonder about this Judge and what she allows and does not allow. Plz some one tell me whats wrong with this case. IMO we all know that shell casting was moved. rather some one moved it or it got kicked when his body was moved back to the shower.

         • The shell that, disproved, the spastic prostitutor, lied, to, get an extradition, by the fact, the shell, had no blood on it, which if, fired, first, would have been covered in blood… How do we know, that, the preforensic, scene laundering, politically correct team, moved the shell…??? Edgrrr…

     • I thought the same thing about the mob and hanging. He did something to her she just didn’t go off on him.

     • The majority of people in church sin or go against church doctrine. Studies show 80% of christians have premarital sex. Men will lie or try to get women to do kinky things, seems they both enjoyed it or possibly Jodi knew kinky sex was a tool she could use to get his attention. It is fairly clear he was using Jodi for sex, but only because she was making herself available. Jodi did have anal sex before Travis and did introduce KY to him. Abused women don’t bring KY. This case is confusing. I think it’s more a crime of passion, possibly premeditated, but I’m having some difficulty with that. If I simply wanted to kill someone, it wouldn’t be so poorly planned or done. I don’t think Jodi is stupid. This appears to be a killling with no real thought process to cover her tracks. She did everything wrong when it comes to premeditation if she didn’t want to get caught. However, that doesn’t explain the gun, I believe she had stole one, the gas, tag, etc. Seems clear she didn’t want people to know she was going. Maybe she did plan that if she couldn’t talk him out going to Cancun with another woman, then she would kill him. It does seem she went into a rage. I don’t think Travis abused her, but that he used her, but Jodi let her self be used hoping it would lead to love. I don’t think she will get charged with felony premeditated murder, but she ain’t getting out of jail for decades to come, if ever.

       • If you think the premeditation theory is confusing, then he hasn’t proven premeditation. It should be crystal clear at this point. Martinez failed.

         A man using a woman is abusive.

         • What about a women using a man? Is that abusive?

           • Yes, Peter, a woman using a man is abusive!

             • So why mention the sex of the abuser?

               • U mention it, If you are trying to prove abuse, and a man says he wants to ziptie you a tree,stick his d..k in your ass , ALL the way, and loves the sound of a 12 yr old girl in a sexual kind of a way,that makes you climax, puke…..

                 You mention the other women he ruined ..Deanna , which happened to move 2 weeks bf TA’s death?. Lisa, Mimi skye, Ashley …..and when you start playin mormon virgin girls, you might have some angry father’s, brothers, church members, maybe jealous roomates, watching Travis getting his FRI, / SAT. piece, Proceeded by him going to church on Sunday. Angry women that waited for him, Deanna waited 8 YEARS! You do NOT believe she was a lil mad??
                 I would LOVE to see those calls , texts , and emails …ALL OF THEM. U KNOW THE ONES THAT DET. FLORES SAID DIDN”T EXIST. Then said they were not important.
                 ANOTHER ??????? LOL BAMMM ..what was wrong with this jury? no doubts hugh? oh yeah they want her to die bc of her eye color.

                 Madeline Biamonte , C.T.

               • Hey,

                 Some of your comments are offensive. I’m taking an offensive sentence out for future reference. It’s okay to use words like oral sex versus the vernacular. Thanks.

         • You got this Jodi head up. Its a shame you got mixed up with this scumbag. Its not all men he gives us a bad name. There are guys out there (ahem, me*) that would treat you like a queen.
           That’s what you deserve you stood up to an abusive asshole and did what you had to do and they want to put you on trial for that??? Give me a break. Do your thing Jodi its refreshing to see someone fight back.

           If you want to email me you have my address I’d love to have the chance to talk to you. You seem like an amazing person.

           *STAY STRONG*FIGHT THE POWER*YOU GOT THIS*

           • Finally someone that sees it the same way I do. I have been sitting every day watching this after recording it. I too would have been so beat down, that I could not get up. the recording of him saying he wants to tie her to a tree and …..he sounds like the lowest form of human out there. Who finds that sexy, who finds that something to be aroused about. You heard what Jodi said. She paused, but was so afraid to say anything against what he liked or he wanted. This is obvious in that she was talking about going to visit someone and when Travis said he did not like that person she quickly stated she probably would not go. She was abused, verbally at least. Sometimes verbally is worse than physical. I have been there. I do not want her to die. I do not want her to spend the rest of her life in prison. He lied daily about being a virgin. He too lied. Why cant anyone see that? She has a rare artistic ability that only comes along every so often, her drawing are amazing.

             • Exactly my thoughts the guy was nothing but an abusive pervert. She doesn’t deserve to be treated that way. Nor does shedeserve to sit on trial for killing this low life. She
               Did what she had to do. The “Victim”, prosecutor,and judge are all sign why our legal system doesn’t work in this country.

               Fight the power Jodi.

             • I agree.No I dont advocate murder but when do ppl have to be accountable for their actions? It’s one thing to make mistakes and be human.But I believe that Travis’s behaviors were calculated and manipulative.He purposefully created a double life.Some ppl say men will be men etc.No why is that ok? Why do ppl get “passes” because boys will be boys? You know right from wrong.Brought her to his teligion and then “he” had to be the one to baptise her.That was calculating and deliberate ill intended behaviors.

               • I have often wonder what about Travis seemed to turn woman off. Mimi only wanted to be friends, all his other girlfriends seemed to have LEFT HIM. They all ‘claimed’ he was a wonderful person, so why did they leave him? Even the girl they claim he wanted to marry left him. the other one claimed he cheated on her, but he was an awesome person, Then there was one that he slept with but she was not good enough to marry and she swears he was a gentelman

           • There are more bad men out there than good ones and the same goes for me not finding one also.

       • Please, for all of us, regardless what the case is, lets remember that in our country we are SUPPOSED to be innocent until PROVEN guilty. Not the other way around. And the prosecuter is supposed to prove this BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. I have to say, I have been watching everday and so far, Juan hasnt proved anything to me. He ended last week saying that Walmart had no return for the gas can. Where is the proof? Where is the Walmart Manager? Shouldnt he be on the stand explaining how their system works and how he is SURE there was no return??

       • I believe using a woman for sex while looking for a virgin wife is abusive…mentally and emotionally.

         We’ve still have a long way to go in teaching women to become empowered.

         Anytime a woman or a man believes they need another person to complete themselves they are eventually going to be miserable…until they realize they have everything they need within them.

         Personally, I could feel the torment Jodi was experiencing emotionally and mentally.

         • I’m a criminal lawyer in Connecticut. I’m forced to watch this trial each evening because my wife is addicted. How about 7 years on a manslaughter plea? I’ve never heard of a death case with non-aggravating facts like these. Even in Texas or Florida , I don’t think she would “death qualify”

           • Hi GERALD!! madeline here from storrs,CT……UCONN IN THE HOUSE !! LOL I TOTALLY AGREE. also, its nice to see another post from CT!! =]
             OHHH and my poor boyfriend has found himself defending Jodi, from listening to me. There are ALOT of people that only knew the MOVIE JODI, which is horrible.
             My boyfriend explained the truth to my cousins in NY, this Thanksgiving. He said ” I find it very impossible, illogical, and there is too many unanswered questions for me, to believe Jodi COULD do that. ”
             I was so proud of him. All it takes is doubt, right????????
             hmmmmmmm,
             GOOD LUCK TODAY JODI< THINKING OF YOU< GO GET EM JEN!!!
             Madeline Biamonte ,mom in CT

           • Why did not Jodi get manslaughter is really a questionable issue? Her lawyers asked for it but the judge went for life without parole, clearly prejudicial and a harsh punishment.

             Marilyn Bloch

         • I know you typed this years ago but I totally agree with you. Jodi obviously loved him enough to convert to his religion. I don’t believe Travis had true intentions from the beginning. It is a cycle of abuse that is typical of a narcissist (Travis) and I think Jodi was so emotionally screwed up by him that she snapped. Jodi was in turmoil over the lose of Travis and didn’t know how to cope. I also think Travis was a hypocrite!

       • People keep bringing up that Jodi didn’t want anyone to see her there.
         Maybe it was all Travis’s idea. He did want her to come over.
         He wouldn’t want anyone to know that his secret was coming so she did whatever he wanted again to please him.

         It isn’t a surprise that he wanted her to still have sex with him and he figured heldn’t get any
         but, knew he could with Jodi.

         Also, he knew she was good at photography and he knew he could count on her.

         None of this would surprise me.
         They were still “friends”

         WHAT DOES SURPRISE ME!!!
         The roomates not noticing anything for 5 days, even though they were right in the same house.
         Didn’t anyone CALL them and say hey is Travis around???
         Was the dog going crazy??
         Most dogs would!

         Dave Hughes could have called the house and said I just got a message Travis is dead???
         Can you tell me anything???
         What the hell happened???

         They got the message Travis was dead and the guy Dave Hughes said they were already planning their trip and would discuss it there????
         Do they think we are ALL stupid?

         The roomate, Zach Billings told a different story about ginding Travis than Mimi did, the one that was supposed to go to Cancun, but just decided to get really worried on the 9th?
         This is all BS!

         The LIES are coming from the prosecuters side.

         • …………..

         • What about, the suicides…??? Edgar…

     • So now that we are into defence re-direct, what are your thoughts. Has your opinion changed?

       • @Eileen. Are you asking me specifically or just everyone in general?

     • If there is one thing I am familiar with that is Mental Abuse far more damaging than physical Abuse.I believe Jodi…It is just sad that I think That unless a person has truly experienced Mental Abuse themselves that they really cannot grasp what it can do to a person..Jodi herself is still in denial …It may take years before she realizes and comes to grasp the reality of all things…and it is my hope that she will get help before her memory returns totally …. It took me 10 years. Jodi should be found not guilty….the evidence proves it was self defense.

       • I completly agree @Robbie. I was a victim if mental abuse and it took years to distance myself from the abuser because it was a parent making it very difficult. I hope she is found nit guilty she doesn’t deserve anymore jail roomed. I hope she sorts through it all and can lead a normal life. Mental abuse is real and no one deserves to be treated in that fashion.

       • I believe that Jodi was physically and emotionally abused. I suffered the same trauma and I had very low self-esteem when it came to my relationships with men as a young woman. I hope Jodi is found guilty of manslaughter. I hope she gets out of jail soon. She needs therapy. I don’t feel she is a danger to society. With therapy, she can have a happy life with a spouse that will support her and treat her well.

         I watch the trial everyday. My prayers are with you, Jodi. Stay strong and hopeful.

         • I know what it is to suffer mental abuse and having the hope that it will stop. It is possible to have a mental break and do the unthinkable. I can tell by listening to Jodi that she is an extremely intelligent woman so if this was premeditated I was fooled. Its funny because I can understand her lies and why she told them. There have been situations where the truth would be more incredible than a lie. Like nobody believes the story of a black eye right? I watch/listen to the trial most days and the things I have heard (sexually especially) are mortifying. I feel for her and sure hope the jury carefully deliberates on this one.

         • I have to say, I too was physically and emotionally abused over 31 years ago and it took me 7 years to get out. They did not have the diagnosis of PTSD back then. My friend came back from Vietnam and had the same type of thing I was having, flashbacks. My daughter studied the same thing Jodi’s expert studied and it states she suffers from anxiety. Well, I can see that. But even the trial can bring that on, jail can bring that on. I was a juror before and listen to everything before I make a decision. I need to hear her last specialist before I make my decision. I have been a witness in court, I have police in my family and a victim of crime, but I do not judge anyone until both sides are done. Yes I listen to all of HLN;s stuff but it does not blur my judgement because I know they are biased. You have to look at it that way. I do however feel sorry for Jodi’s defense team in the case they were handed and the expert they put on the stand. He needed to be more organized and more put together. It would have come across more professional to the jury.

           • Why wouldn’t Jodi have PTSD, I mean she just killed someone and it was someone she loved. Its not like she had ever killed before. And if you listen to Jodis friends talk about Jodi instead of Travis so called friends talk about her, she was a sweet person Why wouldn’t it be trauma enuff for her to develope PTSD. I really really wonder about the time line and the roomates . Did Jodi put that plate on upside down or did some one else hoping she would be pulled over with blood all over her?

             • I really wish Jodi could remember everything , because some thing is not right!! Was the roomate there? Did he come to her rescue. Did they check to see what time the roomate left work?

     • Watch http://youtu.be/Ol-yhZtN26g & compare to TA wounds it is scary I have had them in my home !Jodi wound not have known this I just recently seen this This is a woman that is Mormon all her life…her brother was arrested for carrying out the cleansing of the priest that break the laws of chastity….I believe Travis was caught by the church, I believe she was abused and she plead self defense to protect her family… My prayers are for Jodi …there are temples that only a handful of Mormons are allowed in & this is their history…I did not make this up, nor am I a Mormon hater, Most of them are not aware of this and if they are: do not believe it still goes on today.Only the Hierarchy can go into those 4 temples @ anytime.they want. I believe this is why it took so long for him to be found. There had to be a cleansing of his body.I believe Jodi’ was honest about the intruders.Instead of prosecuting her, they should be protecting her & her family. Jodi was battered not only by Travis but also the System. No Woman should be treated this way at all.She is totally over charged…[related to a “secret group” member & know 1 st hand their reach & what they can get away with] my prayers are with you Jodi….

       • THANK YOU!!!

         I totally believe her intruder story!!!
         that was pure raw emotion when she told the detective that story, & how she wanted so bad to help Travis, but chickend out.

         She held up that story for many months, telling anyone who would listen & even firing Nurmi for a time, because he insisted on a self defense plea, saying they would kill her on the intruder story…After firing him, she represented herself, but had to return Nurmi for “council”, after she lost her first hearing, the judge reinstated Nurmi as the lead attorney.

         Even the guy Dr for the Defenses believed her intruder story, thats why Don Juan claimed the man was “hot” for Jodi…

         they say there is usually a whole lot of truth contained in a big lie. I think the intruder killing is the truth & Juan is covering up for the Mormons, which is the lie…

       • This entire, soap opera, is to, covet, all those, voters… by, concealment, of, the ritual, killing… Edgrrr…

     • I agree I think there is more to this. I simply cannot believe Jodi acted alone. When you see the magnitude of the injuries (and the fact that he was shot last says a lot), it just does not appear possible. Im unsure why Jodi would cover for other people, but I dont think she acted alone. Im hoping more will come out in the civil trial and Jodi will reveal what really happened now that the criminal trial is over.

     • ANYONE on camera has to note or say “I am not a Jodi fan before i get death threats or hate mail” whenever they say ANYTHING in a POSITIVE note or for Jodis case. Even these attorneys who have been in this world of violence for years they have commented how if they say anything regarding the way this case was tried was not fair not even saying she is not guilty just talking about the law and media not letting her have a fair trial they receive DEATH THREATS, NOW THIS INSANE and disgusting how HLN creates all these haters, and THEY HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT… Nancy Grace should be ashamed of herself she gets emotional when she speaks of her husband that was murdered WHY WOULD YOU CREATE MORE HATE IN THE WORLD? KNOWING there shows are creating all this hate WHY not say before every show WE DONT CONDONE THE DEATH THREATS THAT ARE BEING MADE TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR OWN OPINION AND SHOULD NOT EVER BE THREATENED, THIS IS WHY WE ARE HERE BECAUSE OF VIOLENCE AND WE NEED TO STOP THE BULLIES OF THE WORLD AND THE VIOLENCE….nancy u r a hypocrite and i would love to confront on that… ……………………………………………………………. ……………………………………………………. Also Domestic Violence victims DONT ALL GET ABUSED THE SAME AND DONT ALL REACT THE SAME…….. Seriously what is wrong with people just because he didn’t leave marks or she didn’t tell anyone DOES NOT MEAN SHE WAS NOT ABUSED………….I was abused for 7 years he would get MAD at me if he left a mark because he knew others would see it, I NEVER EVER ONCE told or wanted ANYONE TO KNOW because its embarrassing, scary, and something i never have been through and was so afraid of him finding out i said something……its sick that these HLN people who have never been through it could have the nerve to even comment on it……………………………………………. ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………Last Have you all noticed Travis’s friends who keep going on TV to do an interview regarding there interactions with Jodi they HAVE NEVER SAID ANYTHING CONCRETE the ONLY thing they keep saying is in a round about way Sky hughes “oh I warned TRAvis that she was “Weird and gave me the creeps “Clancy Talbot, who worked with Alexander, said, “Every time I saw her, she gave me a really bad feeling… made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, just a sick feeling.””I remember thinking, ‘That girl looks like a zombie,'” Christopher said. “She was a weird person to be around.” thats the comment from Julie Christopher worked for Pre-Paid Legal Services Zack Billings former roommate his interview with Nancy DisGrace he said his interactions with Jodi were fine n normal and Ms. DisGrace kept trying to get him to say something negative about Jodi but he didn’t, funny how he hasn’t been interviewed anymore……HLN IS A HATERS NETWORK AND IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH THEM THERE VIEWERS WHO SEND DEATH THREATS ARE THE ONES WHO NEED HELP AND ARE THE TRUE CRAZY ONES…….NANCY DISGRACE,VINNIE, MIKE BROOKS, JANE VALDEZ all have made some pretty Big mistakes in their past and have skeletons in their closets just wait until they get out to the media and lets see how they explain and how they are judged….KARMA KARMA KARMA……….people who send or make death threats are just BULLIES and HLN hosts CONTRIBUTE TO the nasty hate behavior and should be stopped………..JODI i hope you get a retrial and hope its a fair one………

     • I can’t believe people are still one sided on Jodi Arias. She admitted she killed him. But I believe she was emotionally beaten down by. He was an user & abuser. Doing all this sex that he wanted to . Plus he was conceited & phony. Now let’s be fair . Why try her in an Mormon town .. I have personally talked to people from Mesa they believe she didn’t get a fair trial but no one dare speak of her in favor But they feel this trail is wrong started against her…even news crews why not show both side of the trial. Defense attorney….praise The Lord quit trying to turn everyone against her.

   • In response to Liz Web question; Premeditation is a very IMPORTANT issue. Premeditation = Death Penalty & I think the prosecution is attempting to prove that. Jodi’s lawyers are stating that it’s not premeditated, which is in not saying that’s she’s innocent. The defense team in their opening statement clearly said that Jodie killed Travis & that they would prove why. Killing in self-defense or snapping into rage from continuous abuse are two different penalties as well I believe.
     As for my opinion, I’m not sure yet, the trial isn’t over and from the slow pace that its going there seems to be at least a few weeks to come.
     I would like to state that I am 67 years old, am a child hood survivor of extreme physical & emotional abuse. What I lived thru compared to what Jodi says she lived thru in child hood……all I can say to that is I wish I had been fortunate enough to have had her life.
     HOWEVER, the pattern of relationships she chose to have is exactly what I did too. While in my mid 20’s I realized thru therapy what I was doing and made a heroic effort to change this in my selection of partners. I thought I had succeeded and at 30 years old married my “IDEAL” mate.
     It wasn’t long afterwards that I discovered I had actually married my mother & father in one neat & tightly packaged bundle. Most of the familiar abuses I had grown up with continued throughout my marriage & I was miserable for years, but I guess comfortable in my own sick way because I chose not to leave, but instead I kept attempting to help my husband “heal & get better”. At 39 yrs old I became pregnant which I was so happy about as we were told by many doctors it could never happen. One evening (at 6 months into my pregnancy) I made him dinner & served it on a tray upstairs in his office as he wished & requested. I went back down stairs into the TV room and was eating mine on a tray while sitting on a big pillow on the floor with my back leaning against the wall. He came downstairs in a rage because he didn’t like what I had cooked & began a screaming scenario about it (happened many times a week, I could never get anything right for him, & I always really tried too sometimes making up to 3 different meals to make him happy) but this time I had slid towards a corner trying to back away from his raging spittle in my face. I thought he was going to hurt me & my baby…I had a steak knife on my plate & in a flash lunged at him, aiming for his arm. He jumped out of the way & I missed him. (thank G-d) Once our child was born things didn’t get better only worse. I encouraged him to come with me to get help for our child’s wellbeing & he would not. Finally, one morning at 2:00 am I quietly packed my car up with every important thing I could fit that was essential and of course our toddler. I left and never went back. I have never met anyone else nor tried to. I don’t date. I raised our child the very best I could do and without physical & emotional abuse. I believe I did a pretty good job of it. Our kid has grown up to be a good, kind and law abiding person & we have a good relationship. Today I am still by myself as I believe it’s the only way I can survive & not be miserable. I have loving relationships with my siblings and a few good friends an am doing ok.

     • Good for you Marisa! What a hopeful message and experience to share with other women who identify with the horrendous feelings Jodi must have been feeling!

       • I so agree! I can relate to Jodi’s feelings as I was also abused I pray this girl goes free <3

     • I am 38 years old and have a lot in common with you. I am now raising my two daughters on my own and have chosen not to even try to date. maybe that will change someday, but after all I have been through what is important is that I raise my girls without angry voices in a home or violent outbursts. Just love. I just wanted to thank you so very much for sharing your story. It was truly inspiring…I think you should find an outlet to help other women…I know I benefited just from reading that post, imagine what you could do? anyway, thank you. Just thank you so much!

   • Based on the evidence that has come out so far, and feeling the pain that Jodi expresses she experienced in this relationship, I hope she does not have to spend one more day in jail and that she is found not guilty, even if it is by reason of insanity. I do believe the anger built to such a point that she finally snapped. She may have brought the weapons because she was planning to confront him this time and wanted to have something to defend herself if he reacted physically. By putting myself in her place I can understand why she played along with all the debasement and why she was so nice to him. I believe she wanted him to love her and the nicer she was to him the meaner he became to her. Being too nice will often bring that out of certain people.
     This guy was a fraud. According to one of his friends he came from a place of extreme low esteem. As he rose in the ranks of his career and church and gained power he wielded that power over Jodi–because he could. She was in awe of him or at least the person he pretended to be. She wanted desperately for him to love her and thought by worshiping him he would come to love her. She craved validation from him. But the power, having gone to his head, was too tempting to use on her. He was dismissive, disrespectful, he humiliated her, he took her money even though it was purported he had much more than she did, and in the end he robbed her of everything–her self-esteem, her financial stability, and her credibility.
     I believe she finally had enough and made the trip to see him, in the back of her mind, with the idea that she might confront him on all this. I don’t think it was actually planned; I think she brought the gun as protection just in case. I believe she entered into a sex session as she was so terribly addicted to him but, once again, he humiliated her. But this time she wasn’t going to take it. Because she was so addicted to him, instead of just walking away like she could have, the rage just overtook her. He may have come at her in a threatening manner and she may have tried to defend herself. I don’t blame her one bit for snapping after all she had been through. Although I have enough self-control to not murder someone, I know people who have done awful things to me but I have healthy self-esteem and know to just remove myself from the situation. I would not have stayed around as long as she did. I think Travis Alexander got exactly what was coming to him. He created bad karma and this is what happened.
     I am glad to see there are so many people who can see this for what it is. I have lost faith in Dr. Drew and many of the media moguls and their biased opinions. It really demonstrates to me that a lot of people who are supposed to be experts in their fields are really not that bright. If they can’t figure out what was really happening here–that she was a willing participant because she wanted to please, thinking it would make him love her–then I think these people need to go back to school and not be counseling people. Shame on them. I want to see some truly bright people give their opinions. We have enough biased and opinionated Dr Drews in the world making money off the unsuspecting public.
     As for Nancy Grace –she is on a witch hunt. That is obvious. No matter what comes out, she is on Travis’s side. She is so myopic. Jane Valez is a bit more of a critical thinker than most. I think she is beginning to understand the dynamics of all this.
     I will be crossing my fingers that someone on that jury can see what was really going on. Jodi should go free. She is talented, she is artistic, she is sensitive and she has a lot to offer to the world. She just may have saved some innocent children from this sex deviant. I so hope she doesn’t have to pay for it with her life. As Michael Savage once said, “truth has become pornography, and pornography has become truth.” If this trial isn’t a perfect example of this, I don’t know what is.

     • Nancy Grace has elected herself judge, jury & executioner. She has a lot of influence & she has destroyed lives & damaged others. I used to watch her show but I stopped when she voiced her opinion during Elizabeth Smart’s disappearance that “there’s just something not right about the father & the uncle.” This led a lot of people to think they were involved in harming her. After Elizabeth was returned to her family, Nancy Grace NEVER apologized. She also never apologized to John Ramsey, even when detectives and the new D.A. announced that the Ramsey’s had nothing to do with Jon Benet’s murder. Even now, she stubbornly implies that Patsy Ramsey murdered her own child.
       She refuses to accept that authorities had a suspect & evidence & were about to arrest him when he committed suicide. He was a convicted sex offender who had been released from prison just before Jon Benet’s death. I bring this up because these radio & tv hosts have too much power. I agree about Dr. Drew. He used to be compassionate & able to see both sides. But his ratings weren’t good so his producers put pressure on him to be tougher. Mild mannered just doesn’t sell.

       • too many people have to be *TOLD* what and how to think, and thats where nancy grace comes in handy! amazing how nancy manages to manipulate the minds of her audience for the small minds that do not seem to be able to form their own opinions.in jodis case,nancy seems to have all the facts and all the answers without even waiting to seehow the events unfold, makes you wonder why the state of arizona even needed to have a trial to begin with when all they have to do is tune into nancy grace for the preconcieved facts and verdict, gosh, is a shame the state is wasting all this time and money when they have NANCY! nancy definately has some mental issues of her own she needs to deal with but how can she when she is too busy playing GOD and her audience is too busy worshipping her. its common sense, their had to be a motivating factor if jodi killed travis and i dont imagine it was easy for jodi to look back on the course of her relationship with travis and realize all she sacrificed,normal relationships lasting five years, PRECIOUS TIME and love for someone that ended up being the worst kind of deception and acted like satan himself toward her and his church in the end. jodi was raped mentally, physically and spiritually by travis, SATAN had his way ALL the way by using travis and in the end he killed travis through jodi. he used travis up and now he desires to kill jodi but i pray for jodi and hope you all do the same. i refuse to allow satan to hurt jodi anymore. its time for GOD TO HAVE HIS WAY AND JODI, PRAY HARD AND REALIZE THIS, GOD IS A PERFECT GOD AND HE IS CAPABLE OF MOVING THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THIS JURY FOR AN ACQUITTAL,MIRACLES DO HAPPEN AND TRULY REPENT AND EXPECT NOTHING LESS THAN A MIRACLE FROM GOD. also,reconsider your faith in mormonism there truly are some things that are NOT sound christian teachings in that church. study the early church fathers, the ones that were around when christ jesus handed them the keys to HIS kingdom….and just see how catholic you will become 🙂

         • we have a very dysfuntional society today and have had for a very long time. her behavior was that due to being abused. mental abuse is subtal and there is always an i am sorry that follows it. i believe this woman was abused by many things. and since she was bused at knife point as a young woman i am sure that is where her fear and terror comes from.

         • “SATAN had his way ALL the way by using travis and in the end he killed travis through jodi. he used travis up and now he desires to kill jodi but i pray for jodi and hope you all do the same. i refuse to allow satan to hurt jodi anymore. ”

           Gee, too bad you didn’t mention this sooner. Perhaps, she could have used this as her defense.

       • I agree so completely about Nancy Grace. I used to have such respect for Dr Drew. I am finishing my Masters in Psychology and will go on to my doctorate. Dr. drew was very influential to me because I wanted to be a kind compassionate counselor like he is. I have been so disappointed in him lately. The video they showed on the show of Jodi laying her head on TA lap, and the ridiculous comments, stating that you can tell she is obsessive and possesive in this video. Really?? All I could tell was that she was tired. How doea laying your head in your spouses lap make you crazy. Even my husband, who doesnt get into this at all, said that he used to really respect Dr Drew but he sold out to the media drama, ratings and false fantastics. Its sad that our news has become all about the ratings and very little about the truth. That is why I watch the trial for myself.

         • Jodi was not laying her head in her spouse’s lap in that video.

           • Major Cynic- Man, you weren’t kidding when you picked that as your screen name were you?!

             I’ve been on this site for about 2 weeks now and I’ve interacted with quite a few of the people commenting on here. So far, I have not seen anyone deifying Jodi. We support her, each of us for our own reasons, but none of us worship her.

             You say Jodi was behaving like a 5 year old who wasn’t getting enough attention in that video and then ask what grown woman sits in a group of people sleeping on their date’s lap?

             Well, I’ll tell you what grown woman sits in a group of people sleeping on their date’s lap; I do. Or, I have, anyway. Now, you might have been asking what KIND of grown woman does that and I’ll tell you; a tired one who is comfortable with her BOYFRIEND (more than a date, buddy) and among friends. Again, at least, that is why I did it. I’m the kind of woman who is pretty damn awesome and there’s nothing socially wrong with me that would explain such atrocious behavior, in case you’re wondering.

             Besides, if it was really about not having enough attention paid to her, putting her head in his lap wouldn’t get her more attention unless she started……never mind.

       • You mean Nasty Grace. HLN is like a lynch Mob, they get people all fired up with BS. Everyone of them as far as I am concerned have sold their souls for ratings they are the lowest of low.

     • I too have lost respect for Dr. Drew. They have to make money for the people who pay them, and it seems to me they say what the network or popular opinion is so they will continued to get paid. It is weird to think of Dr. Drew believing in the death penalty. It is weird to think of Jane Velez Mitchell believing in the death penalty…especially since she is over the top with animals. She doesn’t believe in wolves or pit bulls being put to death but does believe in putting animals to death. I don’t she or Nancy have ever experienced abuse…we only know what we know.
       Even the “defense” attorneys on HLN, like Joey Jackson, who is a likable person has turned on the defense…I think it is because they are paying him now as a commentator. Doesn’t say much for the character of people.

   • I watch part of the trial today. From what I have heard of Jodi testimony it seems that Travis was a narcissist. Im wondering if there will be an expert witness on his mental condition. Narcissist make people (their mates, girlfriends, wives) feel like Im seeing Jodi react on the witness stand. The text messages that were read in court mirror what narcissist say. Most of their behavior is all the same. If you look up info on this condition I believe you will find the key to what drove Jodi and Travis to be where they are today.

     • I feel as though I had seen her life some where before. Either a movie I had seen or a book I had read…, then it hit me.. I was watching the history channel and it was about cults…. not saying this is the case here…. but some days I look at her and think woe this poor girl acts brainwashed… I dont know what the top 10 cults in the usa are… for some reason I just cant rule it out of the whole picture.

       • mormonism is a cult…. this is true but not all mormons are of the cult. with due respect, i know and love a lot of mormons but if they get too deep it becomes deceptive and seductive , surface level points to jesus.

         • I find the Mormon Religion so Wrong! I do not believe any of there B.S.

           • Now everyone does have their own opinion and I do respect that, but to say Mormonism is a cult is not true. I have grown up in the Mormon faith and it is definitely not. I have also experienced different sects of the Christian faith and all have good and questionable things about them. Not one church is perfect. Only God himself is. Now as for Jodi and Travis. I have read a ton of comments on here and have also seen the trial. It is truly sad on both ends. For Travis because no one deserves to be killed in such a brutal manner/ or to be killed at all regardless of what they do, and for Jodi because mental and physical abuse is terrible. I have been through mental and physical abuse myself and to this day im still getting over some things, and I Pray that God works on her mind and she is able to get through and move forward from here on.

             Now I also believe it is wrong to judge on either side. We only know what has been recorded, and said from family/friends, and media say about their relationship. For instance there are articles about how she has had prior abusive sexual encounters before and enjoyed it. -I know just an article and again he said she said. We also do not know what he has truly done in his past. With the relationship we truly do not know what really went on behind closed doors, and to be honest none of us can make a truly educated non bias opinion because there is only one side to the story, and we will never be able to hear the other side to the story.

             This is truly a sad case on both ends. Each family is/was going through many emotions, and I am keeping both families in my prayers.

     • Its funny you say that. Like I said in a previous post, I am a Physc major, pursuing my doctorate. I keep hearing the media call Jodi a Sociopath. I would love it if everyone on her went to google and typed in sociopath. The Mcafee site gives the best, in depth definition of what a Sociopath is. I have to say, obviously I have never met either one of them, but just from following the trial day after day, Travis seemed to me to have major Sociopath traits! Read it and tell me what your thoughts are. If you cant find it, let me know and I will post it. Its long, so I am referring to the site before posting. I would love to know everyones opinion on that.

   • Speaking after 23 years in police work this case seems like a forgone conclusion that she will be convicted but not recieving the death penalty . What I see is a defense hoping to keep her out of death row . Though I feel she murdered him in a pre planned manner I cannot help but to eel sorry her .
     I am saddened that such an attractive young woman who had potential has tossed two lives away . Its a real shame !

     • Joe, why are you “saddend” by her attractiveness? And what does it have to do with anything? Your comment contributes to the “shame” of this case!

       • I think the point is not solely based on how attractive she is or isn’t.

         The media frenzy wouldn’t be half as bad if it wasn’t for the sexual nature of many of the questions.

         It is a sad sign of the times but sex sells.

         • Does anyone think that Travis sucked Jodi into Mormonism?

           • Yes. He did it as another way of being a control freak. Even trying to control her MIND and body. He must have been a really sick person. Sorry this young lady fell for his crap and has messed her life up like this.

   • Hi…I also have not made up my mind. I have a question and I would like to get your opinion about it.

     I watched the trial on Feb 21. Martinez is asking Jodi when she saw travis on the day she caught him looking at the pic of the boy. She said she got to his house and left before it was dark outside. Now Martinez showed a text message from Jodi to Travis saying she is getting off work at 5.
     In Jan 2008, it would have gotten dark around 4/5 pm…

     So I’m confused. Did she go to travis house or not?

     Thanks.

   • I think the word “innocent” is just in the context of her defending herself, and therefore cannot be guilty in a “cold blooded” way, since her action was in self-defense

   • it means she is innocent for her charge of Murder. She is innocent of the charges. She killed Alexander in self defense.

   • She admitted killing him now its about degree.

     • Her, “admitting,” anything, was upon advice of coiunsels,’ statement, that, abuse, was the only, acceptable, defense… Edgar…

   • after watching much of the defense attornies questioning , what would help ms. arias a great deal would be for him to connect the dots instantly of 1. what transpired on 6/4/08 and how she feels 2. how that relates to the traumatic impact of having your life threatened / reacting/acting on the threat 3. how that trauma impacts her thoughts ,feelings and actions from that day forward to present.

     PTSD has multi-dimensional impacts & effects , it is the mind protecting itself from the reality of situations that cannot be fully assimilated as they are happening , part of you shuts down. seems the jury needs to hear that in a big way to make sense of the rest.

   • It’s not about degree. Jodi Arias killed Travis Alexander because he attacked her after a gun accident, and she defended herself.

     That’s self defence.

     The state has to prove otherwise, beyond all reasonable doubt.

     But in fact, looking at the evidence carefully, it’s the other way round, Jodi is innocent beyond all reasonable doubt.

     • The state, has only to prove, they can conceal exculpatory, evidence, and, stack, the jury, with, idiots, so as to not, upstage, a, brain dead, judge… Edgrrr…

   • I only recently started following Jody’s trial. I am convinced this was self-defense. I have seen so many men like Travis – self involved, manipulating control freaks that love to take advantage of sweet vulnerable women and then kick them to the curb. I am so disgusted by the vigilante justice that has become so common today. The mob on CNN is nothing more than a linch-mob. And then I think of this poor woman who had once been so full of life and now that life that has been destroy after she had already suffered so. My prayer for you Jody, is that God will finally,somehow give you peace and joy!

   • How can I get in touch with Jodi!? I believe she is innocent… She is an incredible person

   • I think, your lawyer is very weak JODI, I have seen trial and i find lot of discrepancies in trial and some of bullshit arguments as well from prosecution. I dont know whether you are guilty or not, but from case documents, it seems that they already declared you guilty before trial was even started and you became negative celebrity.

     Open the trial again, get a new lawyer, hear all trial recordings again, this case can be easily turned around.

     I personally also feel that you are hiding something big and havent come clean on records despit you agree that you killed travis. I have a gut feeling that you still taking blame or hiding something on this as well.

     From your confession, from your trial study, from your lawyer, there is a mess and big hidden factors till now. I still believe you are convicted majorily because of hype by media and people are forced/started believing that you are a murderer.

     I am not from US but lawyer by profession in different country, so thats why advising you.

     • Hi Lucie,

       Jodi is not hiding anything. Everything that she testified to during the trial is the truth. She lied in the beginning due to personal shame over the intimate pictures that were taken between her and TA. If you want more background, I would invite you to read the wiki site Justice4Jodi that appears as a hyperlink on all of the previous threads on this site. Much of the prosecution’s evidence is addressed and countered. Look forward to talking with you.

       • Hi Lance

         By no means, i meant that she is lying in case, i only meant that i still feel she is hiding something due to some unseen reasons which she dont want to share and that will help her in overturning this case. I myself found many abnormalities in case as well where your country jury didnt even bothered to see those.

         • I also meant that your court tagline

           “A defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty, to the exclusion of all reasonable doubt, in a court of law.”

           is absolutely rubbish specially in jodi’s case

           • Also if you want, i can go through full case docs available on internet and can give you abnormalities but mind you that dont post over internet otherwise your prosecution will be alerted.

             and for god sake, find a good lawyer, all the time your lawyer is just listening rather then speaking

             Sorry if i am harsh

             • Hi Lucie,

               I’ll address all three of your threads. First, I was stating that Jodi is not hiding anything now. In the beginning stages, she was trying to avoid the intimate details of their relationship, including the intimate photos of June 4th as well as the details of TA’s sordid behavior. She was perfectly willing to keep these details hidden because she still cared for him EVEN AFTER he had attacked her and tried to kill her. She attempted to plead guilty to 2nd degree murder and just quietly go to prison and take all of these intimate secrets with her but the state of AZ wanted to give her the death penalty so she had to “rip the lid off” as she said in post conviction interviews. The abnormalities in this case, as you say, are too numerous to count here. Deletion of evidence, questionable courtroom tactics are just two examples of this.
               “A defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty, to the exclusion of all reasonable doubt, in a court of law.” is indeed one of the main beliefs that our constitution states as one of our inalienable rights. However, the founding fathers didn’t know about Nancy Grace, National Enquirer, US Weekly, Radar Online and Sky News… need I say more!! This has occurred in many other cases other than Jodi’s and will continue to when the details of a case involve sex and death.
               Finally, we are attempting to raise money to help Jodi pay for a really good appellate attorney when her appeal is heard. I will encourage you to read the following wiki site that was created by a fellow supporter and to watch the below interview with Jodi after her sentencing in 2015 which you can see on Youtube.

               http://justice4jodi.wikispaces.com

               RAW: Jodi Arias fuII interview footage

               • Thanks Lance

                 Dont talk about Nancy Grace. I dont want to say anything about her as she was the first one to mess this case up as if she was jury. I am super pissed off with that liar.

                 I and some of my friends will donate handsome amount of money as well but time is running short and gap is still big for collection

2. I read quite a bit from your Casey Anthony site during her trial, and discovered this site the other day when the Arias trial began and I was looking for live video feeds. I’m not a fan of the Nancy Graces of the world, I totally agreed with the verdict in the Anthony case, and I agree that something is at least fishy about Travis Alexander and that there is far more to be revealed in the Jodi Arias trial.

   My question is, just who is SJ? And what is his/her/your relationship and investment in these cases?

   Thanks!

   (I apologize if this question has already been answered elsewhere. I have read the “About Us” section of both sites, and looked through the archives of SJ’s posts. I have even done a Google search, to no avail.)

   • Hi Michael,
     As with my other support website for Casey, I never make a big thing about me or about who I am. I don’t need to. Nor do I generate any profit from the site. The same applies here. This site is therefore a safe place where people can come and discuss all the various aspects of Jodi’s trial as we move forward, without being exposed or subjected to the hate & BS prevalent on other similar sites & FB pages.
     Thanks for posting and for your ongoing support!
     SJ

     • Thx for putting this up! It’s been a lively and stimulating discussion!

       • i n.o this girl was mental abused by the way she talk about that guy. he hit on her i bet on it ihope she doesnt have to do any more jail time . good luck jodi

     • Martinez I am so sorry he’s on her now about deleting the photos it does not take much thought a 2 years old could do it. I just do not like how he treats Jodi he is also abusive. I also can not get over that she was going without food. I know when I don’t eat my body shakes like I’m going to have a seizure I get Migraines, vomit sometimes lasting for day. When sugar drops I can’t think or recall what I said 5 min before. I also so upset that they have a dangerous abusive stun belt on her and her legs made so she can not run. More abuse for Jodi I am shocked with all this. I am one of those weird people that does not watch news much and never heard of Cassy Anthony until her trial started. I watched it on channel 9 it was real trial not garbage of HLN. Up until almost end of her trial I never new of this Chanel 30. Fount out about 55 in session last week. I don’t like how HLN especially Nancy judges people before trial. She never has a kind word for anyone and the other people on that station get worst each day . Ir’s so sad. I so like when their looking for missing children or finding for pets. It’s sad what people have done to Cassey life hope she can find peace and happiness. Now they go for Jodie I understanding as I was abused my whole life. Jodie you are amazing ! So smart ! I could never remember the things you do , I think Martinez is jealous incriminated of your intelligent. Know many care for you and praying for the best for you. . I am so sick of these HLN people who can never give anyone a chance or say a nice word about others . Thank Goodness for the Court system even though I do not believe in death penalty. Jodie you had to be so scared , treated so wrong to have the strength to over come a strong man do all you did in short time. and we were his room mates for 5 days ? who fed and care for his dog it’s so hard to believe she could have done this by herself no way would it have happen if she had not been abused very badly.

     • Kudos SJ!!

     • Thank you for ur support site, Id be so lost without it. its wonderful to know she has so many ppl backing her up.

   • Finally I found someone who agrees with me on the Casey Anthony case, Ive argued with my friends until I’m blue in the face. The verdict was right, sadly, she will never hava a life becuz of ppl like Nancy Grace and Jane Valez. Even Vinne Politan I’m beginning not to like. The media makes you believe “their” point. I’m just too tough to go for all the media hype.

     • I am so relieved to find this website and now have the ability to share my opinion. To begin with Jodi Arias is entitled to a fair trial and presummed innocent until proven guilty. I have lost all respect for HLN and sister station CNN as well as its hosts. It is unacceptable that as a news station their only job is to report the facts; not opinions, speculation or personal views, none of which seems to apply. I am very interested in this trial and until or if the Prosecution can prove their case Jodi Arias is innocent. We live in a democracy and have been afforded that privalege. Nancy G, Vinnie P., and Jane V.M, have been reporting the facts but have instead convicted Jodi without trial. Who are they to judge her without facts? Based on what I have seen and researched I am not sure I could convict based on the circumstantial evidence or an admission of guilt given by Jodi. It looks to me like she was intimidated by an inept police detective only interested in closing the case. Its a shame that the only place to find facts is within a sight such as this. If it were up to the people at HLN and the ones mentioned earlier Jodi would already be facing death. Shame on these “so called reporters” and their poinsonesss words. Its time facts were reported and one sided journalism lose its audiance.

       • Yay!!! I’m so glad I found this website and that so many people can see what is so obvious… especially about the In Session and HLN commentators like Vinnie, Jane and -ugh- Nancy. It’s one thing to make a point, but totally another when you convict someone at the getgo. It doesn’t matter what evidence the defense presents, even when it’s true and beneficial to Jodi, these idiot commentators make sarcastic comments, playing down the value of the evidence and always ending their statement with “and Jodi murdered this innocent choir boy in cold blood”. Even if she had a picture of Travis beating her, raping her or evidence of child porn on his computer, they would still stick to their guns, refusing to acknowledge the evidence and insisting that she’s guilty murderous seductress. There is nothing that can change their opinion of her, no matter how innocent she is. They’re pure prosecutors at heart. They convicted her from day one and refuse to see anything else but their own judgement.

         I have been watching the trial in its entirety and have been forced to mute the commentators and guests since there is not one who is unbiased or believe “innocent until proven guilty”. It’s disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. I used to like Vinnie, but not any more. I can’t stand that big mouth, Joey Jackson – unbelievably irritating. I never liked Nancy Grace. What a nightmare! She is the most condescending, rude woman – even being nasty and disrespectful to her own guests when they side with the defense, even slightly. Even Dr. Drew is appalling – and he of all people should know better! I’m just glad there are others who see the obvious – here is an emotionally, physically, sexually abused woman, who adored an abusive, narcissistic, hypocritic of a man, and finally tried to defend herself and ended up snapping into a blind rage. She obviously didn’t want or mean to do it and she’s devastated that it happened. My heart goes out to her.

         • Welcome to the website, Susie! We are happy to have you here.

         • Yeah, be careful on other sites….cause I have been attacked! And I have been bullied!!!!!

     • I think jodi was emotionally abused by Travis which is just as bad as physical abuse.

       • I agree 100%
         I’m almost positive in the last few months of their relationship, he treated her really badly

         Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.

         Also if you are spiritual they both are being punished for their sins

         • I have had men do horrible things to me, and I was sucked in the torture! It was horrid and so embarrassing! That is to make it lightly. It can be Hell! Jodi was lied to and Driven to what she wouldn’t imagine!!!!!!! It’s just so Sad!

       • I also think so and I think about how all the media says she dosent look like a abused woman. How do they know have they been abused before? There’s alot that goes on in my relationship that NOBODY sees but me and my significant other. And as there asking her questions and she says she “can’t remember” I know her exact feeling, theres so much that happens that sometimes you don’t know when it happend, you can’t remember if that happend this time or was it the last 5 other times. Similar events happening in different days can get you confused on when it was.

     • There is a psychological term for this. Its called Group Think. Its basically when you have someone convinced of something and get them to all think alike. That to me, is what HLN does or attempts to do. They want everyone to Group Think like them.

3. Hi SJ, I also agreed with the Casey Anthony verdict but feel the prosecution failed to present enough evidence for a guilty verdict. That being said, I appreciate this site and appreciate someone championing the “other side”, if you will. I was hoping you could answer Ms. Liz Webb’s question of Jan 4th 2:28 pm.
   Her question was ” I have read your site, I am confused, do you believe she is innocent as “she did not do this” or are you saying she will not be found guilty in a court of law because lack of evidence of premeditation. I have not formed an opinion, all the facts are not in, so I am just curious about your statement since according to what I have heard she has now admitted to being the person that killed this man.
   Thank you
   Liz”

   once again, I appreciate your energy and would appreciate an answer.
   thank you
   Bob Sz

4. I lived in siskiyou county for 6 ys it is a ranching community and hunting is a very popular recreational activity it is commonplace for people to carry knives and guns in yreka and surrounding areas i don’t believe that it is odd or unusual for someone from that location to have a knife ot weapon on there person and given where she’s from i dont think the presence of tho
   se weapons constitutes premeditation of Travis’s death also myself and others have referred to casa Ramos is in yreka as Margaritaville as they are the only restaurant in a tiny little town that served the drinks they are popular for their Margaritas

   • You know I was surpised that no one brought up in the trial if anyone ever called casa ramos a nickname like margaritaville. Many restaurants will have a local nickname…

     The detective in Mesa is a total douchebag idiot. He doesn’t seem that bright to me actually.

   • There is a restaurant where I live and no one calls it by the name on the sign. Actually there’s two like that. One is a breakfast place and its called Country Kitchen but everyone calls it the Waffle House. The other is a Chinese place, it’s been around for 100 years. Its name is Tong Fong Low but everyone calls it Charlie’s. They are making mountains out of molehills and I hope a lot of this is addressed during the Defense case.

     • I think an isolated incident of referring to a restaurant by a different/wrong name (as to where she cut her hands) is, as you say, making a mountain out of a mole hill.

       I believe it loses that distinction when put into context with numerous other statements that were found to be untrue: I was never there, I haven’t seen Travis since April, it was two masked intruders. Then even potentially innocent restaurant statements become suspect.

       • On that note- I’m pretty sure Jane Velez-Mitchell referred to Jodi as “Jodi Alexander” today on her show. I don’t recall her catching the mistake and correcting it either. Just goes to show that Humans are Humans and we make mistakes.

         Have to wonder how upset the family and friends are about it…

   • Wow. Hope this gets corrected in front of the jury. As it now stands, all of America is thinking that no such place called “Margaritaville” exists in the Yreka area (except in Jodi’s imagination). Wonder if she actually worked there and cut her fingers there.

5. I’m glad for this site that someone is on Jodie’s side. I don’t know her but I feel very bad for her. I feel Travis was jerking her around and just using her for sex. and maybe he enjoyed making her jealous. He had 2 standards for women, and i thought this went out of style 50 yrs ago but apparently not in the mormon community. That is, there are girls to fool around with and those you marry. I don’t believe that is a very religious way of thinking at all. and not fair to any woman involved. I’m not clear as why she drove to his home, but could he have asked her to come by email or phone? He certainly wasn’t unhappy to see her since they were photographed in bed together. This really sticks in my mind, Jodie in an interview said Travis was very persistent and would email her and not give up until he got an answer. The new woman he was going to take on vacation said she at first didn’t want to go, but Travis was persistent. So that’s a person who backs up Jodie’s statement that Travis was persistent. Another thing, i just don’t see how a woman of her size could have done this terrific thing, and dragging him down the hall, that doesn’t make any sense, nor does taking pictures then throwing the camera in the washing machine, yet the knife and gun were never found.. I know she has admitted to killing him in self defense, but could she have confessed under duress. It seems to me more people were involved. I wonder if someone else was very jealous of Travis success and took advantage of his tumultuous relationship and framed her. I hope for the best for her.

   • “In-Session” Correspondents only gave Jodi Arias “One (1) good Day” for the Defense Team, this past week. Literally shocked me that Vinnie gave the “Defense” a Good Day, also. This wired up Prosecutor (Martinez) slamming his own witnesses, and acting so arrogant, on a circumstantial case with circumstantial evidence, gets on my nerves, and is probably alienating the Jury as well. As for Detective Flores, I don’t think he knows what he did during his Investigation, and Prosecutor Martinez knows it. I expect that next week, and weeks to come, we’ll see more oversights and Perjury from Flores. I’m picking up the feeling that Ryan Burns gave Jodi the cash money that Jodi was depositing during that long drive. Perhaps Ryan Burns was with Jodi when she went to the Car Rental? Did Flores even try to find out who the guy was, that she was seen with at the Car Rental Agency? No. I’m not even 100% convinced at this point in the Trial, that Jodi Arias did the killing, or acted alone… The Prosecution I am anticipating going to continue to play that Clip from “Inside Edition” where Jodi says “No Jury Will Convict Me, Because I did Not Do It”, up and until the last words the Jury will hear at the end of this Trial. Martinez is playing on the Jury, because he has no “Factual Evidence”! I have yet to see any evidence of “Premeditation”. Vinnie of In-Session is starting to sound like Nancy Grace with his Day #05 ‘already Guilty Verdict”. I still contend that Detective Flores used illegal “Interrogation” techniques in obtaining them telephonic statements prior to Jodi’s arrest, in order to gain Q.&A. to build a case against Jodi, without affording Jodi of her “Maranda Rights”. Flores knew full well that “anything she said would and could be used against her”, as they are now doing in Week #01 of her Trial. I do not understand why the Judge allowed these telephonic statements in as evidence to be used and twisted against Jodi at Trial, but I’m starting not to like this Judge very much. Another thing about Ryan Burns, is he knows full well that his introduction to Jodi was made in the “Good Old Boys” manner by Travis’s friends, that he may have a easy chance to get into Jodi’s pants. Finally, the Prosecution can not use the “Felony Murder Rule”, to say that Jodi “Murdered Travis during the Commission of a Burglary”. Travis welcomed and invited Jodi into his home at the time of the killing, for the purpose of having sex with her! I certainly hope that Jodi’s Defense Team has some more “Curve Balls” to throw at that dumb Prosecutor, as this Trial progresses…! I’m still not sure nor do I feel confident in her Defense Team, at this point in the Trial, but I may be wrong, as we will find out in weeks to come in this Trial. Jodi Areas is on Trial for her Life, and even if she were Guilty, she deserves the best Defense available by law. Charles (01/13/2013)

     • Charles, I agree with you. It seems impossible that Jodi was able to overpower Travis and kill him the way she did. I can’t believe she was able to drag him by herself, either. Maybe she shot him after he attacked her and then called someone for help and they made sure he was dead. I thiink she snapped. IF murder is wrong, why does the state of Arizona and the pundits on t.v. believe she should get the death penalty?

       • Maybe the roomate heard them and came to her rescue although they claimed he was not home yet. Two days short of a week and no smell= yea ok

       • And, the,. alleged, picture of, Jodis’ foot, was taken, by a third person … or, did the magic camera, do it all by itself…??? Edgrrr…

   • I too, am glad I found this website. After reading Travis’ blog, especially the one about who he wanted to marry, I think he was an arrogant jerk. I feel badly for Jodi because I 100% believe he was playing her and that she wasn’t white or virginal enough for him to marry. He certainly didn’t stop the sexual talk or relations and I really think he was messing with her head.

     The only whore in that situation was Travis.

     He’s totally unlikable imo. Although that doesn’t mean he deserved to die, I think it was a complicated situation and am giving Jodi the benefit of doubt.

     • I totally agree–where are the women of this country who can actually sympathize with Jodi? She was USED, badly, by Travis–period.

       I posted a sympathetic piece about her yesterday on Websleuths, and it was pulled in 3 hours.

       I can’t believe how many women don’t care about how he treated her, as if what happened couldn’t have possibly had a thing to do with anything that HE ever did–what on earth is this culture coming to?

       A male caller on Dr Drew last night said that he sympathized with Travis until he heard he bent her over and sodomized he the day of her baptisim–good for him.

       Travis IS quite unlikable, IMO. And the anal sex really seals the deal for me, too.

       • I’m a first year law student- dreamed of becoming a pros. atty my whole life. But cases like this (and some great professors), have me changing my mind – drastically.

         As a child I was physically abused by my father. Sexually abused by another family member. And then in my 20’s, Mentally abused (severely) by an ex-boyfriend.

         At first I looked at the crime scene and the evidence and thought the same thing 98% of America does. But the more I delved into TA’s character… and realized what was going on with Jodi… I started to change my mind. People are so black and white. They can’t imagine what happens when a person is brought to the brink. The human brain can only handle so much before it breaks down- like any other part of the body.

         I suffer from PTSD brought on by a myriad of events in my childhood and adult life. At one point, in the midst of the relationship with the horrible, cheating, mentally abusive man… my brain completely malfunctioned. Something went terribly wrong. I woke up crying incessantly. I walked past the kitchen and proceeded to the balcony and climbed over. It’s was like I was being told to jump off of this eleven story balcony, by something in my brain. It wasn’t a voice. I really can’t explain it. Thankfully, as I hung over the edge, I was stopped by a paramedic who just happened to be walking by. I do believe that God intervened. I was put in a hospital, where I learned that it wasn’t me… my brain had literally broken down.

         For some people this happens with deep depression. For other psychosis. For others a horrible act that they never could imagine themselves becoming involved in. My father’s abuse was only one step in my brain reaching that point. Different traumatic events lead up to this break down. The boyfriends mental and verbal abuse was the nudge that literally pushed me over the edge.

         I feel for Jodi. I remember how horrible it felt to be treated like dirt. I remember how terrifying it was to lose control of my own mind. I believe the same happened to Jodi. I think on that fateful day, she wanted to give it one more chance. (I did this too- for 5 years on and off. To this day I can not give a good answer why. It was like I was under his evil spell). I think TA started to get annoyed (he was done with her) and wanted her to leave before the roommate got home. He got tired of the photo taking and pushed the camera out of her hands. And then… chaos ensued.

         All I see online is people talking about Travis as if he was an angel. I see right through that. My dad was like him. Everyone thought he was the greatest, best looking, most funny, helpful guy in the town. No one had a clue he was beating his children like rag dolls. I think a few suspected it, but probably didn’t want to believe the guy who cuts everyone’s lawns as a neighborly act could possibly do such things. Nothing was worse than to live with a monster who everyone else thought was an angel.

         So while I don’t think Jodi did the right thing, I don’t think all of the blame is on her. I don’t think she deserves the death penalty, or even life in prison. I think she deserves to be heard. And the other women who have been in her position. They all need to be heard.

         Today I have been in 10 years of treatment and have an amazing life. I still can’t believe what happened to me that day. I still work so hard to keep my PTSD under control. I have an amazing husband- a true MAN. I am the same age as Jodi. I will continue to pray for both families to have peace once this trial is over. But I do not think a conviction will equal justice in this case.

         • Amen to that! Well said and God bless!

         • Amazing post! Thanks for posting it.
           I have the same compassion and empathy that you do, and it IS amazing what PTSD/Trauma/ Depression can cause someone to do. You are NOT yourself, and are not always able to act/react in a rational manner. I could go on for days on this subject but I think you summed it up enough for me 🙂

           Even Dr. Drew’s shows have been infuriating me since this trial began. I can usually count on him to give a well-rounded perspective that is along the lines of an informative discussion rather than an argument.

           The archives on a site- Beyond the Mormon Curtain have a lot of insightful information for those that only know ONE side of the church, their teachings, and the mentality of their members. (That’s another topic I could go on for days about…)

         • Brilliant post, and thank you for sharing your story!

         • JA definitely didn’t do the right thing here.It is a tradgedy for any young woman to be in a position like this.Some imply she’s blameless here;that’s nonsense.
           TA was stabbed 27 times;his throat was slashed,and he was shot.Such facts enable the state to establish premeditation.JA’s defense faces a mountain of obstacles to prove otherwise,and they know it.
           Obviously TA wasn’t the best of people.He was a user,a manipulator etc…
           On that score he had lots of company in this world.
           We’ve all encountered such people to one degree or another.
           Hopefully we’ve had the good sense to pack it up and walk,or quickly send these characters on their (not so) merry way. But we didn’t kill them,and so we remain in the “free world.”
           TA’s life isn’t on trial here.He’s appeared before the Ultimate Judge.
           In closing I suggest we all pray for Jodi.Let’s set all the arguments aside and just pray for her.

           • I think you couldn’t have said it better!… the judgment needs to stop and we need to pray for Jodi. We should also pray for her family and Travis’ family.

         • Your brain did not “literally break down”. You’re still typing, stop exaggerating.
           Oh, by the way, THANK YOU for this site, soo much.
           Under the conditions Jodi faced, I understand her place.

           So many of the media try to demonize her like they did Casey..
           Unless you know the whole story, you CANNOT judge.
           Can anyone see God in the mirror? No. Stop judging.
           Know that only He can judge us.

         • This story is so amazing it made me tear up and I felt all emotions at once. I understand everything your saying and I’m so glad you shared this story and people get to see that alot of things happen behind closed doors that NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW besides those people. Thank you so much for your story

         • Hope you are better now. God bless.

         • VioletteR,
           Thank you for sharing. I pray there are people on that jury that don’t only see black and white. I agree with what you say and my feeling is Jodi needs to move on with her life out of jail with continued therapy. I professionally have been in the psychiatric field for 30 years. I hold experience professionally and personally. I also hold degrees from schools in the top 10 list of higher education in our country. Not that infantile lying, not expert witness Martinez put on the stand. This is so clear cut PTSD. You understand VioletteR because you have experienced this and could see through the smoke screen. Yes, it is an everyday struggle. My very best to you and your continued strength.

     • I hope Jodi knows she actually has people ‘rooting’ for/supporting her. She must feel terribly alone through this ordeal. She deserves a FAIR trial if nothing else!

       • Jamie, thanks for sharing your experiences. I’ve been in the same boat so like you, I can understand what Jodi went through. I understand she gets a lot of hate mail.

         • It’s awful that people can be so hateful toward someone they don’t even know- going so far as to say they need to be put to death, spend life in prison, and other “murderous/painful” things. I find it hard to not think it’s ridiculous & wonder “Are they hearing themselves?! Are they really thinking that their words/actions are any better than the person they are blaming?”

     • Agreed. He messed with her mind. Nancy Grace is trying to paint him as an angel. He was not. He used her and degraded her. She snapped.

     • I agree.. I do not agree with all she has done.. and I wish she would not have not called the police etc.. but I do see her side.. Having said that, I am sorry for him and his family.. I do think he had a whole diffferent side no one knew.. and I do think kindly on all his friends.. and what they say it’s obviously that they did not know all.. so sad all the way around.. very sad I have to say I do not like the prosecuter.. at all.. that may play against him.. he is like a junk yard dog.. The guy was a huge poser and lier.. He was a huge jerk.. not that he deserved what he got.. but shhessh.. he was a huge jerk to her and misled in the smalest saying everyone.. about who he was. sorry but he was a big dick

       but

   • I follow all the Trials on In-Session for the past year, and have been following the Arizona V. Jodi Arias Trial since Day #01, when it started airing on In-Session. Naturally, I always post my “comments” on “In-Session Facebook Page”. In most other Trials there is some Objectivity in the Cases as the Trial goes along, but I have noticed a tremendous spike in followers and commenter’s on the In-Session Facebook site. Very few taking a neutral position on the side of Jodi Arias. While posting ‘comments’ today about all the questions being asked by the Jury in the Trial, I was slammed by Jodi Arias’s ‘haters’. Even though most of my ‘comments’ are a matter of actual testimonies, evidence, and of course, “The Law’! I don’t normally watch HLN’s Nancy Grace, because she advocates “Victim’s Rights”, but presumes a person is “Guilty” before they even go to Trial, and in some cases before they are even arrested or charged with a crime. I like to hear both sides, the Prosecution and the Defense, before I would dare to make the comments about suspects as she does. Anyway, I watched two (2) of her shows, one earlier this week, and one (1) last night. I don’t understand why all of these people are so upset at the Jury for asking Questions, because that obviously is allowed by the Jury in Arizona. One would think that the questions the Jury is asking would be both beneficial to the Prosecution and the Defense. We have not even heard the Defense’s Case yet, in the Arias Trial, so to jump to conclusions, and start talking about her reactions to receiving the Death Penalty is really premature. Nobody outside the Defense knows what or how they really plan to present their case to the Jury, if she is going to need to take the Stand, or not. It was shocking to me that the Prosecution rested its case yesterday, as it was with most people following this Trial. The Prosecution failed to present any “Factual Evidence” in his case to prove any “Premeditation” or planning on her part to kill Travis, leaving the Jury to speculate on their own. I feel normal human beings want to hear something more than theories, speculations, and circumstantial evidence before Sentencing or finding a person (any person) guilty of a crime that could put them on Death Row! I feel that the Prosecution has failed to prove its case, and now I am waiting until the Trial resumes on the 29th, to hear the Defense, before I form a opinion of guilt or innocence. The Prosecution left a lot of remaining questions to me, in their case, and so I can only assume the Defense will fill in them Blanks. The Prosecution and Detectives had almost five (5) years to prepare for this Trial, and they failed to do so, satisfactory in my opinion. The Prosecution could not even prove the ‘lessor charge’ of “Felony Murder’, because there was no Burglary during the killing. The “Felony Murder Rule” does not apply in this case, which I had decided on Day #01, of this Trial. That leaves a ‘lessor charge’ to be considered by the Jury of “2nd Degree Murder” or rather “Manslaughter”. If the Jury did find her guilty of “Manslaughter” (not saying they will), it carries a minimum of five (5) years, and Jodi Arias has already been locked up for almost five (5) years. The Prosecution badgering and slamming their own witnesses, like the last lady (Jodi’s friend) did not help the Prosecution, and that is on him. We all know that Detectives/police get paid to Lie to Suspects during Interrogations, but in the manner Detective Flores came off in his Interrogations appeared to be leading, Inappropriate, and frightening/misleading to Arias, as the Defense pointed out on cross-examination. Charles in Louisiana (01/18/2013)

     • I’ve heard a lot of comments about the ineptitude of the prosecution, I’m going to have to watch some of the actual trial, cause a lot of people are saying that. It harkens back to the arrogance of the prosecution in the Casey Anthony trial. They were so busy with their slam-dunk-jose’s-an-inexperienced-idiot-campaign they forgot to try the case.

       Anyhow, that being said, I might have an answer as to why people were upset with the jury’s questions. I was too, but realize why I was. Unlike you, I have, unfortunately, formed opinions based on media reports and my own experience watching Jodi in her multiple interviews (more from that than the media reporting–yes I know, the interviews ARE media … but that’s not what I mean). I have not watched more than 5 minutes of the trial, so obviously I haven’t formed an opinion based on the only evidence that matters. However, I believe I understand, from that vantage point, people’s reaction.

       Since I believe that it is a slam dunk case that she killed him (self defense or premeditation notwithstanding) because she admitted “it”, asking questions that would seem to suggest a view that maybe it was roommates, or conspiracy or aliens, makes me think the jury is off its rocker.

       Though, that opinion could all change if I heard their reason for doing so. They might be thinking of something totally unrelated and important that I never even considered.

       But certain questions start seeming conspiratorial … like she couldn’t have done all that in 1 minute 38 seconds, she is too small to have killed him, she is too small to have dragged him, maybe it was a gay lover … how can those questions even come in to play when she already admitted it: albeit self defense?

       • It’s strange to understand, but there are numerous people that have falsely confessed and they’ve all had a variety of reasons for doing so (duress, attention/fame, fear, etc), so I think it’s a good thing that the jury is asking questions. I hope they continue to do so in regard to both the prosecution and defense.

         No one has anything to fear by their questioning unless they are being deceptive about what they’re presenting (In my opinion).

         They need to decide if based on the information given, whether or not she is guilty Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. I think it shows that the jury is taking the trial and Jodi’s potential death sentence seriously- I would hope the same for any jury.

       • Micky,

         You hit it on the nailhead about the Gay lover, I have thought this from the beginining. The roomates loss of smell behooves my rational thought process.

     • Very well said! I’ve noticed the same things you have, especially when it comes to media reporting.

       When it was first reported that Nancy Grace was sitting amongst the courtroom it infuriated me. Nancy has been SO obsessed and focused on Jodi’s case and making sure she throws as many negative comments out there as possible. (accurate or not) We haven’t heard all of the information yet!

       Nancy is/was obsessed with Casey Anthony, but I don’t think she went so far as to check out Casey’s jail cell and question every single thing in regard to the living quarters, her cellmate(s), everything! like she has in Jodi’s case. What’s her deal with ‘having it out’ for women that she says are attractive? Does appearance REALLY matter? Sheesh. Why doesn’t she storm every suspected murderer’s jail?

       • Nancy is psychotic and obsessive compulsive about this case. She needs in patient hospitalization and strong psychiatric medication. She is homicidal by going after Jodi to the extreme that she does. That gives Jodi an unfair trial which seriously puts Jodi’s life in danger.

   • Beth,

     When you talk about Jodi possibly being framed, do you mean that during the 1 minute and 38 seconds from her last photo of him alive (you do believe she took this photo, right?), she left the house, someone else came in and killed him in that minute and 38 seconds, and she doesn’t know who it was, didn’t see them on the way out, and ended up getting framed by them?

     Or, in another scenario, she saw the person, knows they killed him, and is allowing herself for some reason to be framed? In which case, if she saw the killer, then she is guilty for not reporting the murder, right?

   • I’d like to respond to the comment about the “Mormon community” accepting a double standard.

     First , it would never occur to me to make such a broad assumption of an entire community -or their faith- based on the (evidently hypocritical) behavior of one individual. Unfortunately,it seems to be a common reaction, especially when there is a sensational story, or an event arouses strong emotions. For example, Islam is a peaceful, virtuous, faith, However,t for the past decade at least, people who don’t know better see ANY Muslim as a potential terrorist. We can respect others’ spiritual beliefs, and their right to to live in harmony with those beliefs, even if we don’t agree with their theology.

     There is no double standard with regards to the law of chastity; it applies equally to men and women- No exceptions. That standard is

     • Maggie that was spot on! Yes, not all Mormons are like Travis as with not all Muslims are terrorists or saying all Italians are part of the Mafia.

   • I too have also wondered physically how she could have done this.

6. I’m glad I found this website for Jodi supporters. I’m a little scared to post this but here it goes. I was born and raised in Yreka, CA and lived there for 21 years. The comment about the community being a hunting community is true. All through my years of school, there were rules in school that you could carry a “pocket knife” as long as it wasn’t more than 3″ long and it wasn’t considered a butterfly knife. I am totally for women, or men, carrying concealed weapons, or knives, as I know what kind of people are “out” there. And this is just how I was raised. At times I carried a pocket knife to school.

   I went to school with Jodi, I believe all 4 years of high school, and I had numerous classes with her. She was an amazing person. I always saw her as a very generous person, soft spoken, kind hearted, and always smiling. We had dance classes and other classes together and her art was amazing. She was a person I wanted to get to know personally but never really did. I believe she did what she had to do in the circumstances that arose. I wasn’t there, therefore I can only speculate but knowing what I remember of Jodi back in high school, I don’t believe she had this elaborate scheme to kill Travis.

   • It is always nice to have someone post that knows her and her area. It gives the rest of us more of a perspective on what she is like. Unless you are a hater, you need never be afraid to post comments here. SJ is wonderful for putting this together for us to be able to comment freely with our thoughts and questions.

   • Thanks for sharing all that 🙂

   • Beth, I cant help but wonder why they havent contacted you. HLN continues to drag any one who knew Travis on TV to tell us how horrible Jodi was and how great Travis was. I would think real news reporters would want to hear from people who knew Jodi. You would be an excellent candidate. You really should call Dr. Drew, or Jane Valez, or even nancy Dis-Grace and tell them you knew Jodi and went to school with her and see if they are even remotely interested in talking to you. I have been so surprised that more people havent come forward for Jodi. I wonder if they just arent coming forward or if the media is blocking them. So, I guess if you called them, we would find out.

     • Michele, Hln does not even take phone calls from people who disagree with them haven’t you noticed that?

7. Glad to have found this website. I beleive she simply snapped while trying to protect herself.

8. I am glad that Jodi has supporters. Jodi is obviously over charged by the very jealous state and I hope that the jury will give the same verdict as that of Anthony’s case. If Jodi went to kill Alexander, she would have shot him while he was sleeping. some “experts” even came up with the crazy idea that Jodi used her left hand stabbing him and her right hand taking picture.

   It is hard to believe that 21th century of America wants put someone to death for the crime of passion (at most for this case). It is sad that the society still disrespect women so much; a women should not be upset if a man treats her as one of his sex toys and calls her a whore after demanding anal sex.

   I hope that at least one juror sees what I see in this case; Alexander never loved Jodi and abused her
   and Jodi killed him in rage or fear. It is consistent with the evidence so far that he chased Jodi to the bedroom screaming profanity or threat and Jodi picked the knife and stabbed him in rage or fear. Why was the knife in the bedroom? He brought his knife from his kitchen and used it in the kinky sex he preferred.

   Jodi haters exaggerated the suffering of his death; the whole fight took about one minute and the adrenaline was high for both of them. It is known that people might feel no pain for days with ruptured kidneys after auto accidents.

   I am very blunt typed and some people might feel very unpleasant about me, but I still can not claim that I never lied. I have no idea how I would behave if I kill someone for whatever reasons. I hope that jurors are very clear that Jodi is not facing the death penalty because she lied. If I were the juror, at most I will
   give her the third degree and time served. She is no threat to the society and people like her rarely repeat.

   • I like your bluntness actually, refreshing. Takes less words/time.

     I can somewhat see your idea of shooting him in his sleep.

     But I’d like to understand how your thought process works regarding the gun being in the house.

     First of all, I should ask, do you believe she brought the gun to his house? Do you believe she shot him?

   • I can appreciate bluntness and honesty. It’d be nice if everyone could have a candid discussion whenever they communicated. I feel we all have something we can learn from others- whether it supports our own opinion or not. Thanks for your post

9. I do not believe anything has come to light showing that the death penalty is appropriate so far, but she is most definitely not innocent of killing a person, and I do not believe she should get off for murder scott-free. I just do not think the death penalty is the appropriate response, as this seems to be a crime of passion at worst.

   • if it wasn’t for the gun and the knife which looks like were brought into the house, that defense still looks pretty weak. Unless defense can show they were already there its overwelming evidence that intent on causing great bodily harm were part of her agenda

10. I first heard about this case on my FB newsfeed. I was curious, read about it and began to watch the trial. I am sorry but I just don’t believe her. This is not to be mean or ill spirited, but why are all of her stories all over the place? She starts one way and then ends another. I was watching some of her 48 hour tv deal, she tells her story how these “two people” were all wearing black – in that story she says oh he was wearing blue jeans”. Which is it, all black or black with blue jeans. There are too many holes in her story that SHE herself tells, not anyone else. I’m curious to see if she will take the stand, and if so what story will be her final one. I would like to know why if she was running away from the scene and driving miles into the desert, how she can suddenly go hang out with this Ryan guy like nothing. Why lie about the cuts in her hands, about the place she worked? Again, this all comes from HER own mouth, not the detective but her. If I were wrongly accused of anything, I’d be fighting and clawing in my world to make sure to let people know just how innocent I was. She’s so confident that she’s not going to be convicted – I can’t wait to see what the jury comes back with and I wonder if she will sit in jail as calmly as she is now. This does make for a good Lifetime movie though and makes my working day go by so much faster! Now having to wait till the 29th to watch again is a bummer!! I look forward to watching this every day!

11. Where is her dad? How come he doesn’t come to court/

    • He is dying of stage 4 cancer if that info is correct.

      • He has actually been in court several times for the hearing. He doesnt come every day though.

12. After this week I think she did do it. I don’t think she is an evil monster, I’m not a psychiatrist but I have good intuition. I think she had a weak self and lost her own identity in this romance with Travis. I think as time went on, she was getting worse and more fragile and at the last she was driven by pure desperation. I think she was in pure torment and she wanted it to stop and that is why she killed him, but what she really wanted to do was end the torment. All her self esteem was wrapped up in Travis. I think she was very attracted to his charisma, just like under hypnosis. She was overboard attracted to him, and he liked the attention but then got tired of it. And then Travis announced on his blog he was looking for a suitable wife, and she was made aware she was not a candidate, but kept on having a sexual relationship with him, hoping to win him over, and she was a one night stand on his part. I think it’s possible, Travis told her that fateful day, that nothing had changed , that they were good friends with benefits and nothing more, and maybe it was Travis who said to her that one day, their kids would play together and she just couldn’t take it. I would say temporary insanity is what really happened, not self defense. I wish the jury could be lenient, but sometimes the legal system has no empathy or sympathy for the defendant, only the victim. I feel bad what happened to Travis, it’s terrible how he died and all the suffering of his family and friends. Maybe the defense is planning a plea deal that’s why the long recess. I think she faces a long time in prison 20 yrs. at the very least and most likely 40 yrs. or life without parole. If there is anything to learn from this is how dangerous an obsessive relationship can be. When Travis had his tires slashed not once but twice, he should have filed a police report, and he shouldn’t have continued a sexual relationship with her.

    • well said Jackie…you totally right

    • Yes, he definately should have stopped having sex with her after the tire-slashing incident. His friends told him he should stop having sex with her and he told them he wasn’t worried about it.

      • Problem is, there is NO proof that Jodi was the one that slashed the tires. It could have just as easily been one of the other women he was stringing along. That is why this wasnt allowed in court, there is nothing more than guesses who did it, it was never proven.

      • Irola, problem is he did not stop having sex with her , they had sex the day he was killed

    • I’ve thought along the same lines of practically everything you said (same effect, regardless).

      I’m curious how the Defense is going to prove self-defense in the case but I guess I’ll have to wait & see. I feel temporary insanity/crime of passion/ something along those lines may have been better- at the same time what the Defense is doing could possible raise enough questions/confusion from both the Prosecution’s standpoint and the Defense’s standpoint to result in not convicting her. Just maybe?

13. jackie, there is no question, she did in fact do it, she admitted it, her defence lawyer openly stated it in court…what they’re fighting for now is the why’s…they’re claiming self defense, but after reviewing all the facts and listening to many of travis’ close associates, i haven’t heard of any evidence thus far of having to protect herself, at least physically anyways…usually when you’re acting in self defence in fear of your life, the one gunshot, the stab through the heart or the throat slit would have been enough to set her off and running, but when you take all three, plus 27 stab wounds, its hard to make for a self defence claim…i’m thinking the defence lawyers will argue it was more of a crime of passion and that travis played her and screwed her up psychologically (i can so understand this), driving her into a rage…
    …i’m interested in hearing evidence from the defence lawyers, wish we didn’t have to wait so long…

    • Your right Kaia, she did admit it. I’m anxious too to hear what the defense has to say. If Travis had called the authorities when she was stalking him, writing letters to his present girlfriend, etc. and then stop calling her and continuing a sexual relationship, maybe the whole thing could have been averted..

      • There really is no proof , she sliced his tires or stalked him for that matter. She said she fell asleep on his couch after cleaning his house and she was supposed to leave after cleaning You have witnesses up there claiming all kinds of stuff. But how much of it is just what Travis told them? Travis had a “HUGE” ego. I can see him wanting his friends to think Jodi just would not leave him alone and he just did not want any part of her. Boosting his ego. Listen to him, his ego was huge. She wants me and I can’t stand her but you know. There is no proof Jodi sliced his tires, no proof Jodi sent an email to lisa, no proof Jodi climbed through a doggie door and slept on his couch. I dont know why she would go through the doggie door any way EVERYONE has said Travis did not lock his doors and besides Jodi had the key pad number to the garage. But for some reason the judge allows them on the stand to testify about what they know. When all they knew is what Travis told them. And they don’t even say Tavis told them , they say she did this and that and that judge allows that shit

14. After watching 48 Hours listening to both sides from the media it’s clear to me Travis wasn’t who he portrayed himself and NO ONE really KNEW either one of them. Neither were devil nor angel. TA had an image to uphold and he had desires like any other red blooded man, JA was manipulated to fill these needs. They clearly didn’t bring out each other’s best sides, and as an outsider his friends didn’t really know him. They believed he was a virgin and he manipulated them to believe she sliced his tires, emailed his new love interests but there is no evidence if not it would have been shown in court. JA was even meeting a new man. I believe in her warped mind she tried to move on planning a meeting with the new love interest. The argument, struggle and killing of Travis was about something spontaneous that happened that day. She clearly covered for him about their issues. She’s clearly not telling all the truth. She has, IMO, clear symptoms of being abused. It’s not the lies its her compartmentalizing of her life. His friends and family didn’t like JA so he made all those things up about JA stalking him to appease them and maintain his image. It was all about image. The perfect image both wanted to have to the outside world.

    • I agree completely with your view, based on what I know as of today. I have been reading other forums, and it seems no one is open minded to this possibility. I am relieved to read that someone else shares my perspective.

    • I absolutely agree, based on what I’ve heard so far. To me, it makes perfect sense that TA would put on a facade for others. Living in the Orem/Provo area of UT (“Happy Valley”) that is heavily influenced by the LDS religion, I have seen the great lengths one might go through in order to preserve their reputation. I’m not saying all LDS members are this way. I have many LDS friends- I’ve also witnessed and even been involved with someone that seems eerily similar to what I’ve heard about TA, who was a ‘devout’ Mormon. The 23 y/o, returned missionary, who was also still a virgin (I wasn’t EVEN gonna touch THAT mess! Tried as he might- I knew better than to be the one he lost his V-Card to) screwed my mind up soo bad. His personal control, sense of self and values based on HIS own beliefs were nonexistent. He questioned every decision he made, blamed me if he felt ashamed of a choice he made (I’m not LDS), talked marriage (was in a hurry too.. wonder why? lol), broke up numerous times as well as get back together… I can’t even begin to explain how emotionally/ psychologically damaged he was and caused me to be. I believe the fact I wasn’t LDS (was a ‘bad girl’ in their eyes) may have been exciting/intriguing for him but also caused him to question everything he thought he knew about himself.

      I actually don’t blame him for being so confused (to put it lightly), as much as I do the influence and judgement from the LDS religion that he grew up with. I have compassion for how troubled so many people around here become. Internal conflict is not pleasant.

      On a side note- try looking on Craigslist for a place to rent in the Orem/Provo area and see how many you can find that don’t mention something about a church ‘ward’ or are only looking for people that have ‘LDS Standards’. I get that people have choices as to who they associate with. It’s sad that not everyone will have a fair chance to present themselves without having discrimination.

15. The JA/TA saga is a cautionary tale about being careful how you treat people in your life. I dont like that he had provided his friends and family with this version of how she was a crazy stalker, but he was still not only allowing… but INVITING her into his life – secretly. As FLNJANG said, it was all about what image he was presenting to the outside world at any cost. Why is she presented as the only aggressor and deviant? People can be abused emotionally and mentally, and from what 48 hours and other sources have said, he was not exactly cutting her out of his life, he didn’t report her to the police before, but he certainly kept using her how he wanted right up until the end. This is the end result. She will probably not “go free”, but I think leniency should be involved because she was a victim as well.

    • Everything you said–right, right, right.

16. Superlative job with the site thus far; many cogent points have been made and the discussions have been well-informed and rather sound–refreshingly free of trolls, Travis canonizers, misguided Jodi bashers and nauseatingly self-righteous pontificators (there’s enough of that lot on “In Session” these days).

    I’m quite looking forward to Jodi’s defense leg of the trial. I should hope they introduce a few “smoking guns” where Travis’ dark, controlling, beta male chauvinist side is concerned.

    When I look at the pictures from the trial, I take pause at that one close-up, head on pic of Travis staring daggers from the shower. I believe that pic represents the turning point where Travis, not Jodi, actually snapped–possibly after Jodi first accidentally dropped the camera–an object Travis most likely valued more than Jodi–and Travis resorted to first attacking, which led to Jodi having to fend for her own life. Just a theory–much like the compact majority of the prosecution’s shaky case.

    I’ve heard an awful lot about Travis the Saint, mostly from the Court TV personalities that lack a scintilla of objectivity and/or good old fashioned common sense, and, on the same coin, Jodi the Demon/Witch, again the Court TV jesters. Funny the way perception & subjectivity works.

    I say look no further than the social network pages for some seamless character accounts. Travis’ is a load of tumescent ego, a study in self-absorption–i.e. money/greed/power/women/15 inch biceps/and grammatically nightmarish blog posts that are essentially plagiarized versions of the pap he read in his thin library of self-help books. Jodi’s pages display sagacity, sensitivity and sincerity. There is depth and substance over surface and style.

    I’ve heard the talking heads/propaganda machine refer to Jodi as a “sociopath,” though it seems, at least to me, that Travis fits that profile not unlike a cold second skin–he comes across as sterile, a man drowning in the shallows of himself, whereas Jodi comes across as warm & human, flaws & all. I’ve also heard those TV types passionately rhapsodize/compose violin concertos about how Travis had successfully overcome an abusive childhood, abject poverty, the odds, etc. The absolute lowlight being a doltish Vinnie P. reading a truly mawkish Travis blog post with a maudlin voice. Could it be that same abusive childhood had a staining hand in starting Travis’ cycle of abuse and degradation toward women? It’s clear he objectified them and then some–especially the non-Caucasian ones.

    Again, just an opinion, a theory.

    On a lighter note, it’s delightful to see Jodi’s magnificent artwork linked up here. And I recently discovered via another site that Napoleon, Travis’ little dog, is alive and well. I’m sure Jodi would be happy to hear that, knowing she is an animal lover.

    Keep on fighting the good fight. I laud your efforts here.

    • I have to correct you. According to Travis my space page someone said his biceps were 16 1/2″ and he was happy to write it up.

    • Fredo! You are absolutely spot-on about the talking heads, and their love of pap– both eating it and spewing it. Their ridiculous dualities: good and evil; saint and whore. No nuance there. It’s either black or it’s white. When they call her a witch, it’s not even a metaphor. What next? Does she have teeth in her vagina?

      What you said, too, about their blogs … I noticed this as well. Here’s where I say, yes: night and day. Just really different people. She was the writer, not him. It makes me sad, for some reason, to know that she encouraged him in his writing endeavors. That love would’ve been better spent on her own creative impulses and talents. Too bad. She is a person of depth, but obviously ill. These are not mutually exclusive qualities. This trial will never get to the heart of the truth of that relationship. She is the only one who can do that now. But now the possibility of the death penalty will pervert the truth. What I want to know can’t be answered in legal terms. Is she, not just psychologically, but morally broken?

      • I must say, well type, that Jean Casarez from In Session is a marked exception to what I previously stated about the talking heads. Her coverage has been refreshingly objective and I laud her for it. She has even made it a point to comment favorably on Jodi’s intelligence and poise on the stand. Little wonder that Jean won a coveted Peabody Award for exemplary broadcast journalism. Richly deserved. I would love to see her interview Jodi when JA inevitably leaves the Maricopa County courthouse a free woman.

        Yeah, so Jean & David Byrne get a free pass where the talking heads are concerned.

        • I would have agreed with you about Jean a month ago, but it seems that she knew vocalizing positive things about Jodi would get her cut off of the Nancy Dis-grace show, and she is now one of them. Sad.

    • Couldn’t have said it any better! Great post 🙂

      It’s so nice to finally hear some rational/reasonable feedback & opinions.

    • How wonderful to read an objective, well-balanced, and well written viewpoint on this sad subject. I joined a Facebook support page for Jodi and the onslaught of venom from the anti-Jodi brigade is so frightening that people are actually afraid to voice an opinion.

17. Onviously no one knows all that happened but those two. I absolutely believe that Jodi was abused by Travis in some sense, perhaps more emotionally than any other form. She loved him, what would have been her motif to kill him. He was still seeing her, was still in her life. Nothin I have seen or tea indicates he ever tried to ” get rid of her” . And if this was sooo premeditated I personally think she is smart enough to have taking more precautions. Such as wearing gloves, cleaning up the crime scene sp her fingers prints would not have been in the blood. And I think she would have formed a true alibi. Having her cell phone with her and taking the photos, wether deleted or not leads me to believe that if nothing else this was not a planned violent event. Come on, she was a photographer she knew the photos would be recoverable. Why didn’t she take the camera??? If she was planning on murdering him I don’t believe she would have ever allowed him to photograph her. If she was trying to cover it up she could have done so many obvious things , like change the date on the cameras settings, taking the camera and destroyed it etc. it leads me to conclude this was not Premeditated and more likely in the ” heat of passion”. And I agree Travis was leading a double life, therefore those who claim to know him didn’t REALLY know him. I fear she will spend the rest of her life in prison and I truly don’t believe she belongs there. Such a sad situation. I am sorry Travis dies so horrifically and I am sorry Jodi is where she is. We may never know all the “whys” but I believe there is way more to this case than a jealous woman killing her ex boyfriend. I wish her the best. Hopefully she will be able to move on in her life and find some happiness.

18. I think she has mental illness. In the 90’s, I worked in a healthcare facility. There was secretary around 24, who became obsessed with a maintenance worker. She was very quiet, soft spoken and very calm. He was friendly to everyone but never flirted with anyone. He was in his late 20’s, married with 2 small boys. She started to leave him messages at work, and then she thought one woman was getting too close to him and wrote her a letter. One morning when he got up she was parked in front of his house. He got scared and called the police. I don’t know how it was handled, but she had to see a psychiatrist and was put on medications. She was off work for about 3 months before returning.. She told me tearfully she never thought she would have done the things she did. She also said she had to continue to see the psychiatrist and take meds. She said she learned a lot of things about herself. If she hadn’t been turned in she probably would have gotten much worse. I didn’t ask her any questions about her treatment, felt it was none of my business. I’m going to google psychiatric treatment for causes and treatment of obssessive behavior. I bet one cause is insecurity. I think insecure people can also be hypersexual..

    • Jodi is not mentally ill. She is not a stalker like the prosecution says she is. If I can’t have him than no one can.

      • There are alot of women with that same capacity….men just don’t know…the difference is she is a psychopath and she stays neutral with her personality,most women are so emotional and crazy ,men see it coming! Lorena Bobbitt cut off her husband’s wang, Susan Wright stabbed her husband 197 times while tied up, believe me, women are capable, Jodi was just more capable, she wanted Travis with her forever, if she couldn’t have him no one would…

        • Oh Phleeeezzz…..a few women killed men-let’s count the number of men who have killed women. Seems like those don’t make “the papers”.

    • Jackie, you said, “insecure people can also be hyper-sexual..” Usually that applies to bi-polar or manic depressives. Jodi does seem manic at times but it’s difficult to make a valid diagnosis from just watching the prosecution oriented media like HLN.
      I don’t think she’s mentally ill & believe that the insanity defense is next to impossible to prove. It’s interesting that Travis gave up everything he had previously committed to with Jodi. He gave up his virginity the vows of his church & lead a double life like Jerry Falwell (preaching high morals & being an adulterer). Jodi became a Mormon for him, they were attached to each other in a big way. The ballad of Travis & Jodi could’ve ended either way, with Travis killing Jodi instead.

    • Can you please clarify your definition of hyper-sexual? Why do you claim Jodi was hyper-sexual and Travis was not?

19. Does she receive mail,I mean I actually want to write to her? What is so crazy is the more I hear the more I can relate with her “mind” on how she felt about him…and maybe the situation she was in, it is sad….she seemed to just want to be loved and instead she felt worthless herself and it only got worse….the whole thing is tragic and just horrific but atleast at this point I don’t see the monster I use to see in her, I actually see something else…..it’s sad.

    • I don’t think he deserved what he got ,he was dealing with something that was wayyyy over his head….alot of men do not realize they are on that same path..I have seen it in alot of women not just her.

    • I think it’s nice that you are willing to be open to another perspective and even mention where your previous opinions have changed. A lot of people aren’t willing to do those things.

      I also don’t put entire ‘blame’ or whatever on Travis (or Jodi) because the entire relationship was unhealthy on both parts.

20. I saw some of the videos of Travis on youtube, very moving. In at least 5 shots, Travis is giving the El Diablo sign (the sign of the devil) as are some of his friends in the video. I was surprised. The El Diablo sign might not mean anything to some people, just a gesture like thumbs up. But I would think a religious person such as he would know what it means and would not do it. I hope I don’t sound too out there but i wonder if Travis was into satanism and maybe Jodie was too. There are photos of lots of prominent people displaying the El Diablo. What do you think?

    • Jackie, That hand sign is also the hand sign for “Rock On”. A lot of people do that sign when they are partying and being silly. Look up “images for hand sign ‘rock on'”.

      • LLT I totally agree with you. Jackie I think you are reading way too much into that. If that was true, many of my friends, family and young grandchildren would be guilty of what you are saying. I think you are wrong on this one.

21. There are some very odd aspects to this, from what I have read so far. The time span in the time line between the “break up” and the murder. Jodie had a blog during that time frame. If she were so heart broken and jealous that she could premeditate a horrific murder, why is there not even a hint of those emotions in her posts on that blog?
    Why was the prosecution unable to unearth any witnesses to testify towards how jealous and enraged Jodie was during those months of being “broken up” but still engaging in sexual encounters?

    I would love to get my hands on the emails and texts that went back and forth between Jodie and Travis during the months they were “apart” but still hooking up for sex.

    The cut throat however is a real head scratcher. The wound was from ear to ear and so deep it practically “decapitated” him, from what I have read. This would be a very difficult thing to accomplish and very deliberate as well. It isn’ a “self defense” wound. I’m not saying she didn’t do it, but it a difficult thing to attribute to her known character let alone physical ability.

    What makes it even more strange though is the link between Mormonism and “throat cutting”, which historically can be tied to an act called “Blood Atonement” in Mormon history.

    I find it an odd coincidence that Travis was a Mormon, was a sinner and had his throat cut in this fashion.

    • it is alledged (not proven) to have happened almost 200 years ago much different times than today – Everything is worth a look as lives are on the line but this theory is beyond reaching imo – also Jodi was a converted mormon so following the blood atonement theory maybe she is the one who carried out the act. – http://shields-research.org/General/blood_atonement.htm read this for the Mormon churches stance on Blood Atonement.

      • http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_bloodatonement.html

        Very much worth reading the articles from that link since Travis was no longer ‘Temple-Worthy’

    • Women are usually vocal when they’re ‘man-hating’ so I was kind of thinking the same thing. I would think she’d be expressing her fury somehow or to someone if she really was that angry or upset.

    • Oh my gosh, I totally didn’t even think about how the Temple Ceremonies referenced the ‘throat cutting’. I’ve actually read some interesting stories about that. Good thinking. Makes you wonder…

    • I find it hard to believe that Jodi slit his throat. Women seldom do that. What about the idea that she shot him, stabbed him superficially, but when she left him he was still alive…and then someone else came in, saw what had happened, saw the “dirty” photos, realised the repercussions for the LDS, and finished him off in the LDS blood atonement manner?

      What about his roommate who was in and out of the house for the entire time that TA’s body lay decomposing in the shower, and yet he never smelled the stench that the police report states hit them the minute they opened the front door?

      Also, Jodi would have known to remove the memory card from the camera….why would she have thrown the camera in the washing machine without removing it? Interesting too that Jodi said on the witness stand that Det Flores is LDS…she would have been further intimidated by that belief.

22. …

    • it is the difference between murder 1, guilty and premeditated OR accidental killing

    • True

    • I feel it’d be difficult to explain the ‘overkill’ as typical self-defense.
      I don’t know how many people are actually saying she’s outright ‘innocent’- as in ‘didn’t do anything wrong’, so much as Innocent of Premeditation, but i dunno..

23. this whole case is a head scratcher! I’m wondering if she has 2 personalities. I don’t understand the reasoning behind dragging him back into the bathroom and jamming him in the shower. also when she was arrested, she had purchased a gun, and she had 2 knives in her clothing and ammunition and appeared to be moving away. i think she might have been paranoid someone was after her, yet she didn’t give this impression to anyone. so many contradictions. did the police ask here about the gun and knives and ask her where she was going? i wonder too if money might have been an issue in the crime. maybe travis owed her and wouldn’t pay.. i’m afraid the jury is going to consider all the lies she told as lack of remorse.

    • i think she was washing off the wounds to see how bad they were.

      • Hair Color Change from Blonde to Brown: See Dr. Drew Transcript 1/16/2013

        Abe Abdelhadi, a friend of Jodi Arias appeared on the Dr. Drew show on 1/16/13 and had this to say,
        “The prosecutor informed him that Jodi Arias dyed her hair in APRIL”.

24. maybe it was like the susan wright case, she stabbed her husband 190 times after tying him up. she testified that she couldn’t stop stabbing him because she was afraid he would kill her (along those lines) when the mind gets terrorized it can go into overdrive.ptsd maybe. said today, she will testify. i’ve noticed her mother and aunt in the courtroom don’t show much emotion, maybe the calm, cool attitude runs in the family. i can hardly wait for jan. 29th

    • I am Guatemalan , and I have closely followed the news in all matters relating to the case of Jodi (HLN) As you have expressed, this news channel is not acting in an impartial manner, same situation on Facebook and all the forums I have visited.

      I am glad we found this place, where all express their views with respect and without fear of being insulted.

      Basically, only i wish to say that I agree with Jackie about that Jodi stabbed him repeatedly for fear that Alexander get up again and return to attacking her …. I imagine Jodi closing her eyes and raising and lowering the knife, without realizing that the young man was already dead.

      I wish that at the end God enlighten the jury, and that their verdict is not good nor bad …. only the righteous!

      !I’m so sorry for Jodi’s and Alexander’s families…..Because both families have lost their children!

25. I truly believe that she was protecting herself what mormon relgious man shaves his crotch smooth I feel he was leading a double life!

    • Not that I personally have a lot of experience in this area, but yes, you’re right….the only men I know of who shave their genital area are either porn stars, gay men, or men who are into the idea of kiddie sex. Remember too that Jodi testified he liked her to be hairless down there too.

26. She was his DIRTY LITTLE SECRET!

27. I do not believe that she is innocent in any way. I believe she completely lost herself in this relationship, up to and including converting to Mormonism after just a few months. Who does that? Answer: people that do not have very good self-esteem, people with problems. I just don’t believe that emotionally healthy people convert that early in a relationship. I think she was molding herself to be what she thought he wanted, and was already losing herself. I don’t look at her as evil. I look at her as someone who snapped….like the show on ID Discovery. It happens all the time. This crime, though shocking and disturbing, is not unusual. People lose it. I think his rejection of her and of a committed relationship with her was more than her psyche could handle, for whatever reason….sociopathy, border-line personality, who knows…and she killed him. Maybe it was because that way he would be “hers” forever. Maybe something else. But to do what was done to his body required a lot of rage. I don’t doubt that Jodi has many good sides to her. But we have to pay for what we’ve done in this life. What I hope is that she gets the help she needs…not that she gets executed. And that she makes it right with her maker.

    • The testimony of defence will be interesting. The only I issue I have with the “she snapped” theory, is that
      A) They ended their “romantic connection” in June of 2007 and started dating other people on a “don’t ask don’t tell” policy and then she for some reason “snaps” a year later in June 2008? Why not as soon as she found out he was fooling around the year prior?
      B) She has ex boyfriends which didn’t work out either. No evidence there of her being unable to come to grips with those realities. No attempted murders etc.
      C) She moved away from him in an attempt to reduce their exposure to each other for the sole purpose of “moving on”. If anyone was “lost” in someone it was Travis being unable to let her go 100%. During the year of being “broken up” but still engaging in sex, Jodie gave no indication she was under any illusions as to what it was. Just sex.

      I do have one theory about her “snapping” though. That being she perhaps recently found out that at the same time he was bugging her for booty calls he was trash talking her to all his friends every time they busted them spending time together, telling them she was a “stalker”and that he couldn’t get rid of her. Maybe she learned that nasty little secret, realized he was just a complete dirt-bag who was treating her like a whore and thus “snapped”.

      • Which could explain why she taped that sex call right? Maybe to expose him to his friends?

      • I have thought this too!! He wasnt a angle by no means…

    • Hi, I agree with you Melissa

      But as for the religion convertism thing, that does not mean anything. When someone meet another person and is interested in pursuing a relationship , it is quite normal to start to adopt some of the values of the other person. When I first met my boyfriend, I went with him to the born again Christian church…it does not mean nothing..we stopped going because I dion’t want to be an hypocrite, am not saying everybody is, but you would be surprised as to know how many peoole go to church just to look good and feel less guity. I think Travis was one of them. Why be a mormon when you know sex is forbidden before marriage and you intend to f…. like a rabbit. It s all bulshit. I think the poor guy was looking for an identity because he didn’t have his parents there for him when he was younger. But anyway, I personally think that Jodi was infatuated with Travis, and that she was living in him…I do notpartucularly believe in the self-defense at all; what I think happened is that She was loving him a lot and she was ready to put up with his abuse ( by hiding her etc…) this is a very bad psychological abuse, you know people always mention physical abuse but they don’t realise that mental abuse is a lot worse. So when the prosecutor asks if Travis was ever violent before..that means absolutely nothing. I don’t think he deserved to be butchered but I am sure he was mentally abusiv..he kept her secret and hid her like a bacteria but used her at night when all the town is sleeping…and making sure everybody knew that he didn’t go out officially with her anymore…even to a perfect stranger as a waitress, that is very humiliating…I think the defense should bring an expert in mental abuse..but again I don’t thiunk he deserrved that. Really my personal scenario of this crime is that I think she went to see him hoping for a last chance to reconcialite..maybe she told him that she was fed up of the way things were…they had sex all day…and then when the conversation became more serious..I think maybe he told her something very mean as: ( look, we had fun today but this is just sex, I met someone that I really llike and am taking her in Mexico…you not the type to marry). Or something like that, and then she lost it….words can be very hurtful..but I thuink this is the way it happened but this is just personnal opinion. I do definitively think that he was mentally abusiv and that is worse than physical, that guy had a doublelife and he played and used her. he probably drove her nut..but that doesn’t justify such a crime. But it could be considered as a attenuant factor. The self-defense attack won’t work because of the circumstances of the crime.

28. I think that the evidence really shows the intense emotion that Jodi was feeling for a long time which finally built up to a point where something Travis did triggered the unloading of all that penned up anger. Nobody can get into Jodi’s mind to truly know whether or not she had any pre-meditation before the killing. We are only left with the evidence. To me, the evidence does not show pre-meditation because a reasonable person would not have left such a dirty crime scene if they were planning on killing someone and getting away with the crime. If it were pre-meditated, there would have been attention to making sure that the killing was done in a manner that would leave behind the least amount of forensic evidence possible. There would be no evidence in any rental car. The killing would have been planned to look like a break in and there would have been staged evidence of entry and the door would have been left unlocked. The dog would have been either killed or released in order to not draw attention to the crime scene. There would have been no photography at the crime scene prior to the killing. So I believe that the final decision to kill was a spur of the moment decision made in anticipation that harm would come to Jodi if she didn’t strike back. The fact that Jodi may have armed herself with a knife and/or a gun indicates that Jodi must have had some legitimate fear that her safety was in danger. This anticipation of the need to pack weapons could likely be from previous experiences with Travis. I also believe that Travis was not the super religious person that he led everyone to believe. I think that Travis’s double life of lies opens a strong possibility that there was a darker side of Travis that most people never saw also supporting the theory that Travis could have been abusive in a relationship. The most damaging abuse could have actually been more mental than physical. An upstand person in the community, well liked by people, attractive well groomed male, viewed by many as a a man of God, image as a future great father and husband, a protector of purity, was Travis who managed to get Jodi Arias to fall in love and trust that he was that one and only person for her for what the Mormon’s believe is eternal marriage. Travis sold it all to the level where Jodi even embraced the Mormon faith and bought into the whole lifestyle believing that it was her truth and destiny. At some point, Travis (this holy person) decides after dragging Jodi down the primrose lane and after using her body for his own pleasure that Jodi somehow is not “marriage material” and that he wants to pursue other girls like Mimi who he thinks is going to make a better wife. Not only was that a terrible slam to Jodi but it was such an evil testimony to his spiritual faith. Travis was a phony and a hypocrite. Jesus says that people like this are like “luke warm water” and that He “spew it out of his mouth.” So I can almost feel the pain that Jodi feels knowing how this man used his faith to manipulate and to lead Jodi into a false sense of purpose only for his own carnal needs. I do not know Jodi personally and have only a gut feeling to rely on. I believe that Jodi wanted to be that loving wife for Travis. I believe that Jodi would have been that great mother taking care of the son she fanticized about in her diary. Jodi would have been one of the active members in the Mormon faith and would have been a true testimony of love. Jodi’s creativity and purity of heart comes through in her art work and in music that are outflowing as a true gift from God. All of these things were stolen in a instantaneous moment of time by a man who had his own selfish agenda. You take any normal person, steal their faith in God and drag them down to the lowest point in their life, feeling like they have nothing to lose, that person will strike back. I feel so badly for Jodi that she was not fortunate enough to have never met Travis and could have met someone else who appreciated not only her physical beauty but also the beauty in her heart. I sincerely hope Jodi gets out of this mess altogether or atleast gets some sort of reduced punishment.

    • David, i love this post!!! You make so much sense n its all so sad because its so true.

      Like you said, why wouldn’t she have done it in a planned matter. Why not just shoot him in the bed while sleeping before they had sex n taking pictures. It would’ve been easier n cleaner. Why rent a car n make purchases whilecon the way there… lv the camera, ect ect

      Having the gun for protection to go see him knowing that he could hurt her….. she still went n alot of people dont understand why would she go to him then and blame HER for not stsying away. That’s because she loved him, easy as that!!!! That’s how much she loved him!

      TA was selfish n stupid. Very immature!!! I agree she would’ve been a good wife n mother to his kids n he couldn’t see that because of his family friends n religion. So many man looking for a beautiful woman to be good n faithful and he didnt want that, he wanted better!! He used her and abused her. Thats what makes a good woman go bad.

      And like you said, I also hope she gets out of this mess. And when she does, I hope she sues them ALL!!!

      • LC, I’m saying this in jest, but that if JA hadn’t killed him, you would have..

        • LMBO:-)

        • Oh lol nooooo….. (no gun, no fire, no snake’s….. maybe the shoe though!!! ;))

      • Thanks for posting my dissertaion LC. People who have never been in an abusive relationship do not understand why an abused person stays in the relationship and goes back for more. I understand because I was married to an abusive wife who used emotional torment on me while carrying on an affair behind my back. As much pain as she was causing me, it took me a few years to get away. Even after I moved out, I would read my Bible and pray that she would take me back. My self-esteme was so low and I was so tied to her that I couldnt see tomorrow. I truly wanted to die and the only thing that kept me from suicide was my belief in God. The thought of murder-suicide even crossed my mind because of the intense emotions you feel while going through the abuse. Now I am free of it all and it is like a different life or it was like watching a bad movie that finally is over. I am happy and I finally have no emotion towards her at all. I feel sorry for her now.

        So, I see clearly how Jodi would have been tied to Travis and kept going back into that situation. When a person is in an abusive relationship, they are not happy but find that there is a certain level of stability even when the other person is being abusive. I used to always think that if I can just hang in here longer that she will eventually accept me and start to appreciate me. Jodi surely felt the same way. In such a relationship, you always think that you can change the abusive person. You always remember the times when the person was kind and the relationship was good. You find yourself still loving the person you thought you knew or a person that you think the abuser can become. You never really see clearly the abuser for who they really are while still in a relationship with them. I hope the expert testimony for Jodi can convey this to the jury. Also when in an abusive relationship, decisions become less rational and you forget things easily. I remember after I had moved out, I went to the grocery store to buy something. After a 5 minute trip to the store, I wandered up and down the isles trying to remember what I went to the store for. This happened several times. I know that Jodi experienced the same things. I also became sleep deprived. I am sure the same happened to Jodi. I can remember being hungry and not having the motivation to open a can of tuna fish. I lost weight and was always nauseated and had a headache that would never go away. I would wager a large bet that Jodi went through all of that too. So yes, LC, you see that I hit the nail right on the head without ever knowing Jodi. Abusive relationships have all these same things in common no matter who is involved. I feel sad that Jodi had to experience it in her life. I truly hope she gets out of this mess and has the opportunity to heal and to find a person who will love her for who she is inside.

        And yes Bob, I read your comment. You are right…I could have pulled the trigger myself knowing how this man abused such a beautiful girl. People who use other people and those who do it under the disguise of being a person of God really are the scum of the earth. The evil they kindle causes so much pain to so many people. Hypocrites like Travis who pretend to know God while committing dirty acts against innocent people are a true blasphamy to our faith. They are evil and I am passionate about stopping them when they are hurting people like Jodi.

        • David, you–and many, many others–explain very well the mind of an abused person. The mind becomes like a boiled potato. It loses its original shape. It begins to disintegrate. And leaving the situation is like trying to un-boil the potato. It can seem almost impossible. It takes time and a tremendous amount of energy. Victims become–eventually–white-hot angry about their predicament. You’ve admitted that you had very violent thoughts. So have others. So have I. The man who abused me emotionally–he had a snake phobia. Couldn’t even look at a picture of a snake without anxiety. After I left him, I had ridiculous, intrusive thoughts: I would see him walking along, when suddenly he would fall into a deep pit. A pit full of vipers. I couldn’t help it–that little movie would play in my mind, over and over, without my conscious permission. I wanted him to suffer, to be bitten, poisoned, erased. Then it stopped. My mind grew bored with the little horror movie. Thank goodness.

          But, what helps most of contain our violence and keep it in the privacy of our own minds? What is the element(s) that puts on the brakes? It seems clear that whatever that is, it was missing from JA and TA’s relationship–missing from either one or both of them.

          • Pique,

            The snake… I understand. Having violent thoughts because my potatoe was unraveling happened too. I remember hiding ONE shoe, in an attempt to feel like I was achieving payback. Just watching him look for that shoe made me feel better!

          • Ha! One shoe! That’s so much better than two– more frustrating. You know the term “gas lighting”? Your little prank on his mind was like counter-gas lighting.

          • Well, I think she did, indeed, kill Travis (after all, she admitted to doing so, didn’t she?), and I don’t think she did it in self defense (at least not in the conventional sense.) She killed him to pay him back for the way he’d treated her, to make sure that he would not go on to live a happy life without her and to keep him from continuing to torment her, and I say GOOD FOR HER. He deserved it. I even understand why she resorted to overkill, because once was not enough, after all the abuse she had suffered. Too bad it wasn’t legal. 35 years ago my boyfriend of four years suddenly ended our relationship (in a public place and for no good reason) and married someone else. Ever since then, I’ve wanted to do to him exactly what Jodi did to Travis (except that, after stabbing him 27 times, I would have poured gasoline all over him and set him on fire instead of slitting his throat and shooting him because it would have caused him more pain). When I heard about the Jodi/Travis case I felt like standing up to applaud her because it was almost as if she had done it for me. The only difference between me and Jodi is that I’m not a stalker (I moved 300 miles away and stayed away) and I’m a “good girl” who didn’t break the law. But I still think about it every day. So tell me, which of us is more “normal”–me or Jodi?

            As for the snake, something similar happened to a friend of mine. Her boyfriend had given her the key to his apartment to water his plants while he was away at a conference. While he was gone she learned that he had been unfaithful to her. She knew that he was TERRIFIED of reptiles. So she got one of her shoe boxes, poked a few holes in the top, and put a small saucer of water and a bit of raw hamburger in the box and left it in his bedroom with the lid slightly ajar. She then bought a book on reptiles with a post-it note on the page about geckos and left it on his night table with the note “Welcome home. I got you a pet. His name is Gorgo”. She went home and left her phone off the hook for a few days after he got back.

          • The poor gecko; I hope it wasn’t hurt. And I hope that my “snake pit” scenario is understood as pure fantasy–and a rather absurd fantasy at that! the point being that we ideally find ways to deal with our pain and our bitterness without becoming violent with ourselves or others. Nothing I’ve written advocates extreme revenge. Hiding one shoe is not in the same category as stabbing and shooting. It’s simply taking a little crumb of power back until a better solution–leaving the relationship–becomes available. I would never applaud what Jodi did; her actions, whether in self-defense or in revenge, have caused anguish for so many people.

            SJ–I know it must be difficult to moderate comments and make judgements. But there should be a limit, no? When does support of the defendant cross a line of decency? “Gasoline”?

          • About the gecko … I misunderstood: there wasn’t a real gecko involved.

            I stand by the rest of my comment. I believe we should resist blood lust on either side of the fence.

          • Pique, I agree with you on the above post. Gasoline. Wow. And no apologies for it. This is not healthy thinking-ESPECIALLY for the person THINKING it. It’s doing more damage to the poster than the boyfriend believe you me. SJ, I also agree with Pique in his/her above comment. You may have influence , as so many are very grateful to you for your work.

            Some folks on here can sound like they need serious intervention and a real friend to HELP them, not encourage them!

          • That above post is extremely disturbing….vividly describing how you would murder someone? That’s sick.
            Its one thing to have someone attack you and you defend yourself. Fantasizing about murder is a whole other thing.

          • I’m glad that you agree, Daniel and Jessica. It’s the “applauding” Jodi that disturbs me most, along with the ideas on how he could’ve been made to suffer even more.

          • It is interesting to read the thoughts of so many of you who have been abused like myself. I understand fully how tempting it is to want to get even. In my case, I made a conscious decision to walk away knowing that what goes around comes around. My ex-wife who was cheating on me and verbally abusing me ended up moving the guy into our house after I was driven out. He was some macho body builder. Two years ago after a March snow storm, he went out to snowblow the driveway, had a heart attack and died. I feel neutral towards his death but something inside told me that the score was a bit more even. It is probably good that I didn’t find out about him while I was still in that marriage because I have weapons and I may have done something rash at that time. The result would have landed me in prison for the rest of my life and I would have been basically robbed of my happiness twice by my ex-wife. I have managed to re-connect with my step-son from that marriage and he and I are still close friends in spite of the fact that his mother and I have no communication. So, I am happy with the outcome. Now I have a new wife who is great to me, a really nice home, a high paying job and my health, both mentally and physically. I couldn’t have asked for a better outcome in my life.

            The sad thing with jodi is that she was still tied into the abusive relationship and could not see a way out. These abusers have manipulative ways of making a victim stay in the relationship by imparting feelings of guilt and a false sense that the relationship will get better. The boiled potato analogy by Pique is a very common scenario. An abused person becomes numb to rationale that most people on the outside have. Logic doesnt apply. That is why many abused women who are seen for injuries in emergency rooms do not follow through with prosecution of the abuser and most often they go back for more. These victims rationalize that somehow it is their fault and not the abuser. The victims try to become the person that the abuser wants them to be. In the case of Jodi, she became a Mormon and tried to become what she thought that Travis wanted. We all know that all Travis wanted was to get a good lay from a pretty girl. What really perplexes me is that Travis was willing to trade a beautiful girl like Jodi for a scuzzy girl like Mimi. It doesnt make sense??? I hope that Jodi can get past this ordeal and have an opportunity to get healed from the abuse.

        • “In such a relationship, you always think that you can change the abusive person. You always remember the times when the person was kind and the relationship was good. You find yourself still loving the person you thought you knew or a person that you think the abuser can become. You never really see clearly the abuser for who they really are while still in a relationship with them.”

          YES!

          • Yes CJ. It is the standard characteristic of evey abusive relationship.

        • David, believe it or not, you and I have a lot more in common than you would think. Forgive me for not indulging, But suffice to say, we took a different approach to accept responsibility for our own lives. And I don’t think there is only one way to do it. But I don’t believe, abuse, is a sanction or an excuse to murder. It seems to me that the more they can vilify TA, the more accepting ,some on here are , that it is, or that its understandable.

          • Bob, I am beginning to lean toward your view of the matter at hand. Outside of this trial, outside of the legal framework, we’re wrestling with moral questions. Unless this was pure self-defense, Jodi crossed a moral line. For me, this doesn’t negate our exercises in sympathy and empathy that help us understand how she got to that point. It does mean, however, that our compassion should dry up at precisely that point where she–if she did–crossed the line. I’ve said elsewhere that I’d rather know the truth and see her punished appropriately (not executed, but punished severely) than see her get away with yet another lie. If self-defense is another lie.

          • Bob, I am not trying to villify Travis. I am merely pointing out the truth. Travis villified himself with his phony image and hypocrasy. Abuse is not a sanction for murder. In Jodi’s case, I believe the abuse caused her to reach a state of mind where she perceived danger. If Jodi feared for her safety and packed weapons in the event a situation would occur, that would explain why the weapons were so handy at the time of the event. As already explained, leaving the relationship was not an option because of the physhological pressure put on her to stay in the relationship. If Travis would have broke it off and not kept her emotionally tied to the relationship through sex and manipulation, Travis would probably be alive today. If Travis would have done the morally right thing by breaking it off cleanly and Jodi would have killed him, then it would have been murder. Her mindset would have been a rational one and the killing would have been planned. It would have been one clean shot to the head, a staged crime scene, with very little forensice evidence. In reality, Travis created the mental conditions in Jodi that caused her to have insecurity and fear. That coupled with chronic sleep deprivation, anxiety, malnutrition and probably several other somatic manifestations of headaches and muscle pain predisposed Jodi to react violently when confronted with an abusive situation. If you ask me how I know that Jodi experienced all of this, I can say for certainty that it happens to everyone who is in an abusive relationship. I don’t have to hear her story to know that was the way it went down. I hope the expert witness for her defense explains it well to the jury and I hope she walks out of there a free person.

        • I believe she kept going back to him because some where in her mind she wanted to believe he cared about her. One min he was saying it was over, the next he was holding her again. In her mind she was probably saying oh he does not mean it. She kept going back because he kept encouraging her to. He played with her mind all the time. he seemed to love to play mind games with everyone. And I don’t believe Jodi was the only one he was abusive to. I believed the ohers all lied, because they all decided it was not going to work with Travis and left him. Then gave some noble reason why they left this wonderful man. Which ones did Travis break it off with?

      • There is a lot of thought in so many of these postings. One has to see “both sides” and the “why” of both sides. I have to so agree that Travis so blatantly used Jodi. If they broke up in June of 2007 then the physical side of their relationship should have ended. Yes, both of them enjoyed sex but Travis was being too much of a hypocrite to stop this side of the relationship if he wanted to remain “virginal”, which he no longer was. He should have known better too if he was such a “good man”. Stop. If he wanted to just be “friends” – fine but he did love the “friends with benefits”. I feel for Jodi because she really loved him. The hardest part is when someone lets you know “you are not good enough”….I can truly understand that. If only they had completely parted in all ways. Each going their OWN way. Both of them could have been happy people today.

    • You nailed it IMO.

      • Maybe I’m opening a can of worms here, but it hasn’t stopped me yet…….
        Are they going to present evidence she killed in self defense to take away pre-meditation or are they going to present evidence she killed him because she was being abused, and it is justifiable retribution making it a mitigating factor to take the DP off the table.? trying to present evidence that some would interpret as abuse, could i backfire if the jury doesn’t believe it rose to that level, but it did piss her off. because then it points to motive, hence fore-thought ,hence pre-meditation.. Obviously verbal abuse, being called names would get anyone mad, but murder?

        • Hi Bob,
          You’ve obviously never been there.
          SJ

          • But SJ, are you saying that even if it was just verbal and emotional abuse, the murder is justified and is self defense?

        • Bob, we just don’t know what the defense plans to do yet. We’ll find out the direction that they’re going in tomorrow.

        • Bob, to answer your question about self-defense versus abuse as a defense, it is important to realize that they are connected. I am not an attorney but have studied self-defense law to some extent while taking business law and karate so I would know where to draw the line if I ever got into a fight. There are couple of conditions that have to be met in order to ligitimately claim self defense. First of all, you have to have a reasonable belief that you feared for your safety and second of all you have to demonstrate that you could not escape from the situation without causing injury to the attacker. In Jodi’s case, the entire abuse arguement supports the first condition. So establishing that she was abused and in a controlling relationship where she felt fear and danger would supply a reasonable implication that she feared for her safety. This would explain her need to pack weapons. So I hope this answers your question about the whole abuse angle to her defense. The only problem for her that I can see is that when you defend yourself and use force, the law requires that you use minimal force only to the point to where you can escape furthur attack. So after the attacker is down, then you have to run away. If you keep on kicking him in the face after he is on the ground, then it becomes excessive force and that is felonious assult. In Jodi’s case I believe that whatever injury she caused initially would have resulted in Travis’s death. I would consider the numerous stab wounds as abuse of a corpse rather than a brutile attack. People think the crime is worse because there is a lot of stab wounds and blood. It really is no worse than a single shot to the face or a singe knife wound to the heart. After the person is dead you can carve him up with a 1000 stab wounds. Nothing is much different because the person is dead. Anyway, that is my understanding of self defense. I am sure it gets more complicated than that and the lawyers will have to find some good case law to support their arguements. There certainly is a lot of case law because there have been numerous instances where an abused spouse who is living in constant fear finally snaps when the abuser does something to provoke it.

        • It would be different then just mad I think, he played with her mind. Such as I care, I don’t care, if I married you it would be like winning the lottery, Your a whore,your beautiful, your a skank, go away , welcome to my bed. and on, and on. In some ways he played a mind controll game with her.

    • Amazing post! I couldn’t agree more.

      • I meant David’s initial post btw.. So many posts on here I’m getting confused. 🙁

29. David, everything you said could be true. But for you to believe this tragic story to explain the circumstances she found herself in, you also have to believe in a lot of and coincidences and that she is one of the most unluckiest and luckiest people ever to walk this earth. That an opportunity presented itself, (very unlucky,) in which she had absolutely no part in creating, (very lucky), to purge this scourge, and parasite that was causing so much pain in her life, That TA attacked her, (very unlucky), to create an alibi of self-defense, (very lucky), when, at the same time she just had handy access to a knife, and gun. (Very lucky). That all her odd behavior leading up to this,and after, she could not explain, (very unlucky), but the helter skelter crime scene proves she couldn’t have planned it. (Very lucky).
    I hope the state shows some compassion, (even though they have no obligation at this point), and offers her a plea. But For all the excuse making being done for JA, she has no one to blame, but herself. If she had done 3 things she could be sitting here right now waiting for a sentence that would not include giving up her life.
    1. Accepting responsibility
    2. Showing remorse
    3. Asking for Contrition
    But she has chosen to do none of this and has instead chosen an all or nothing path.
    Also, for those who think our justice system are without compassion, just as heinous and manipulative as the criminals they prosecute.,if she does get convicted, she gets a 2nd chance to do everything she is NOT doing now. To use those 3 things to plead for her life in the sentencing phase.

    • Bob there is only one thing that makes me know this was not premeditated murder. I am a woman. There is no woman out there that is gonna have sex with a guy when she is mad enough to kill him!! JA and TA had sex all afternoon apparently multiple times.

      • Riiiight! It a known fact that women have never used sex for anything other than a expression of love.

        • Bob,

          LOL I so cant relate to the idea. seriously. But I know you are right;-)

          • i am becoming glib

        • That there is practically the basis for the Film Noir genre!

          • I had to google that term Pique. Quit being so darn smart.:-)

          • I just watch a lot of movies, CJ!

      • Debbie,

        While there are women who use sex to get what they want, in THIS case, it is my opinion that Jodi was not using Travis that day. She loved him. David’s comment above kind of sums up my thinking. (Unless, someone else was involved… that idea still flits through my mind as well)

        • I never said that Jodi used Travis at all CJ. I have no idea how that got twisted. Nor did I imply it in any way, shape or form. What I was alluding to was anger. She admitted she killed him. I said any woman that was mad enough to kill her guy as in anger, would not be having sex with him. He would be smart to not even be in the same room. I couldn’t tell you in the 38 years I have been married how many times one of us has taken to sleeping on the couch.

          • I believe that Jodi loved Travis and would do anything for him. She would not have premeditated his murder and then gone and had sex with him all afternoon. Only a cold calculating person could do something like that. Jodi does not come off as either cold or calculating to me.

30. I totally agree. The Casey Anthony verdict was justice. The state did not prove their case so they had to find her not guilty. I feel the same way about Jodi Arias. There is something really suspicious about Travis and they are trying to make him into this holier than thou person. He came from chaos and I can bet that it was what he felt comfortable in.
    the nancy graces of this world need to quit having such a narrow mind and realIze that this dude has a lot of skeletons in his closets. I’m a total Jodi supporter!

31. i think it’s so strange jodie never took advantage of all her talents to make a better living for herself. she could have been a model, maybe not on magazine covers, but storesand catalogs need models. her drawings are very impressive. learning comes easy to her yet she quit high school. it’s hard to get a job without a ged, i’m surprised she could get hired as a waitress. i understand she quit school because of a romance with an older man with a young child. and they bought a house together or were going to. waitresses don’t earn much money.. she must have planned to marry this guy, but she left him for travis. it’s not too much of a stretch to assume she planned to marry Travis she could have gone so far with art and photography, and she was in a prime location. i’m still not clear on how she met travis. it was at a mormon event in las vegas, but how did jodie happen to be there? was jodie an escort? not that it matters. such a shame she’s where she’s at.

    • Jackie… Jodi was not an escort. She was in vegas attending a prepaid legal conference and so was Travis and that is how they met. He was Mormon she was not. Jodi likely had quite a bit of experience as a waitress since her family owned a restaurant, so even without a ged she would likely be able to get a job. In my opinion, Travis never should have been dating Jodi because he wanted a virgin wife and he was aware that Jodi had been living with a man for some time when they started dating. Right from the get go, Travis never had any intentions of marrying Jodi in my opinion. The fact that Jodi stopped having sex with her then boyfriend because she decided to become Mormon and wanted to save herself for her husband didn’t matter because she was not a virgin. I would be asking all his male friends if they were virgins when they got married and if they were how old were they when they got married.

      • Yep, the majority of majority of Mormons believe they can ‘convert’ people to the church though and/or ‘save’ them EVEN AFTER death.. (Seriously! Look up ‘Baptisms For The Dead)

        They see everyone as having the ‘potential’ to be LDS. As if no one is worthy enough as they currently are!

32. I not saying she is innocent at all but he was leading a double life and using her for his behind the sence three hole wonder (thats what he called her)! Well they were having monkey sex for two hours amd the next he is dead yes it was overkill but WHAT MADE HER SNAP? HE WAS JUST POSING FOR SEXY PICS AND I THINK THAT THE KNOFE N GUN WAS APART OF THE SEX GAMES THEY WERE DOING!! I JUST WANT TO STOP WONDERING WHY AMD FINNALY KNOW, SOMETHING THAT HE DID MADE HER JUST LOSE HER MIND THE KNIFE N GUN HAD TO BE THERE FOR SEX GAMES AND ALREADY PEOPLE WHO LIKE THAT S&M SHIT DO CRAZY THINGS…

    • Monkey sex??? LMAO. I love it.

      • Sorry,

        I regress by 20 years when sex is discussed sometimes. I’m immature like that.

        • Lol…there are just to many damn things that arent being answered ya know

          • Are you casey anthony? just asking because of ur pic:)

            • Does anyone know why Travis’ friends were not fond of Jodi? I also do not understand why Chris and Sky Hughes did not like her either? Was it because she did not have money? Or come from big money? Could they have been “snobs”? I just could not understand what they had against her right from the beginning. Does anyone know? Did they all think they were “better than her” for some reason?

          • No. LOL. I used that avatar because I write a casey blog. Im thinking of switching it to my own picture because of the confusion it causes on this blog sometimes. I’m a woman, mom, professional, who has become glued to high profile cases post Casey’s case.

          • CJ, I always read your posts in Casey’s voice because of your avatar. Not that it’s a bad thing :).

33. I want to see the letters that Travis wrote to Jodi and hear the voice recordings were they are saying Travis says she sounds like a 12 year old while climaxing and that made him hot wtf isn’t those in the hearing MAYBE BECAUSE IT SHOWS HISTORY OF CONTROL AND ABUSE AND WHY HAVENT THE ROOMATES TESTIFYED HELLO THEY FOUND HIM NOT MIMI SHE WAS JUST OUTSIDE THE DOOR…

    • Brandy,

      I get people have freaky sex. I get BDSM is a lifestyle choice and respect it. I’ve even read the trilogy 50 shades. I don’t get how a man could even reference 12 year olds. Do you? I think that speaks to more than just fun sex.

      • Exactly thats not a mormonlly comment lmao…like ive said DOUBLE LIFE THE PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT THEY KNEW THE REAL TRAVIS REALLY ONLY KNEW WHAT HE WANTED THEM TO KNOW ALONG WITH JODI

        • I followed casey anthony trial and ive been on this since it happened

      • Exactly not a very mormonly thing to say…lmao Like ive said HE WAS LEADING A DOUBLE LIFE THE PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT THEY KNEW HIM ONLY KNEW WHAT HE WANTED THEM TO KNOW JODI AS WELL

    • The “12 year old having her first orgasm” comment is just gross. My son is 11…thinking about him and his little friends in that type of context is revolting.

      • I think it’s indicative of other issues if you know what I mean.

      • Yes–what a sick thing to say, or think–for someone who wanted the world to see him as “straight arrow”, he obviously didn’t cringe at the thought of kink.

34. ~ According to the information I have gathered I have deduced the following:
    ~ Jodi Arias sacrificed her former life for her new love when she became infatuated & convinced she was with the perfect man. She not only left behind her religion, her past, & her likely future, but she also left behind her former self. I believe she literally reinvented herself for Travis Alexander who also believed he had complete control over her both psychologically & sexually. I also believe when he realized she could not be completely remade into the perfect woman he then had second thoughts which is when they began to have relationship problems. Most likely the real problems arose when she may have suspected he may have had another woman thus inciting an insanely jealous rampage of episodes. He may have also initially tried to make it work with her undying support. However all of this culminated when she convinced herself that her life with him was a lie & a betrayal of her full devotion & love as his expectations of love turned to premarital lust instead, thus resulting in sexual abuse from Travis Alexander’s testing Jodi Arias’ limits when it came to her undying devotion, dedication, & loyalty. Was there another woman or other women?, I do not know as of yet.

    • I think that Jodi will have to re-invent herself a third time because after you finally get out of an abusive relationship, you have to find yourself again. Nothing is ever the same again and the abusive relationship has a lifelong impact on your life. You ask if there was or were another woman. I believe that there may have been several. I also believe that Marie (Mimi) was probably spreading for Travis too and probably others in her social circles. She put on her goody two shoes to testify how she was one of those upstanding Mormons who would never have pre-marital sex. Mimi said they were going on a trip and having separate bedrooms etc… I don’t buy any of it. I think that they were taking off on the trip to get out of the radar of the church to play around. I think a lot of people who go to conservative churches tend to put on the facade and live a double life. Following God always leads to a battle between the Spirit and the flesh. Some churches are more tolerant of members who fall short than others. The Mormons have no tolerance so some of their members have to almost live a lie to keep in good standing because the church will punish them otherwise.

      • Well..except the abuse hasnt ….been established yet. Not in the eyes of the law anyway…im waiting for the defense to bring that evidence. Because it needs to be brought…..Ive never ever heard that if a first injury was fatal you can “carve a corpse a thousand times” that its irrelevant…it may be to the victim’s physical body, but not the remaining loved ones, or the law.

        David, im not sure where you get some of your convictions…about mimi, I feel fairly convinced based on her testimony that she just wasnt “IN” to Travis…let alone interested in “spreading” for him.

        • All good points, Daniel. A body may just be a body, but it represents the person. It matters. Murder victims have loved ones.

          We don’t know why, yet, Jodi hated him enough to do all those terrible things to his body. We can only imagine her state of mind, from our own experiences (for a while there, the conversation about the workings of DV was a good one, I thought). She may have been fighting for her life, but we can’t be certain. To insist that she should be set free is, at this point, incredible.

          And, yeah, Mimi … “spreading.” That’s not a neutral word. Never mind that it’s unlikely that she was involved with Travis, just the word itself …

      • David
        Where do you get your information on the Mormon church from? Sex before before marriage is a sin (as it is with most religons I know of) yes – but it will not automatically get you kicked out of the church – if you meet with your bishop and repent you can be forgiven and many are -I personally know of 3 couples who have gone through this and are still active members. I see a lot of general statements being made most of which are completly incorrect- Its obvious these people are offering opinions without knowing actual facts. I really get a laugh out of the blood atonement people thinking the church would slit this guys throat for having pre marital sex lol – Travis may have been well known to his local ward but he is not a high up nationally recognized mormon as many make him out to be – just an average member of the church – nothing more

        • Marie hall discussed excommunication for not repenting of premarital sex. She was the first witness and Mormon. She said sex was 2nd to murder in the Mormon faith.

        • J, I am certainly not an expert on Mormon faith. I learned most of what I know from a couple of guys who rode up the driveway one day on ten speeds and three piece suits. I have studied a little more on my own. I don’t believe the Joseph Smith story and all the stuff about Moroni. However, I believe that the Mormons for the most part truely love God and their quest for religious freedom and travel across the wilderness is remarkable. Even though I am a Christian, I believe that Mormons have just as close relationships with God as Christians or Muslims. We are all in the same boat on this earth. The main point I was trying to make is that Mormons and some other faiths put a lot of weight on pre-marital affairs and that many of these people go to places where they can experience sex without getting caught or without elders and bishops prying into their personal choices. They also have a lot of pressure to keep it secret to avaoid punishment. The whole punishment mentality is totally contrary to the unconditional love message brought by Jesus. So, Travis could keep Jodi secret and explain her away as a stalker to his friends. As far as Mimi goes, I dont know what she does behind closed doors. She just struck me as being less forthcoming when she took the stand. That is just my opinion. You are free to disagree. You can take any shots at me you want. I am not commenting here to debate. I am just sharing my experiences and my gut feelings. My main goal coming here is to express my desire to see Jodi walk free.

          • You won’t be kicked out for pre-marital sex but while you are repenting, you cannot take sacrament, which means every single person at church knows you sinned in some form. It’s humiliating.

        • Yeah..well I guess the Bishops has to schedule his agenda for every day,every minutes for the rest of time of humanity if all the people Mormon or any other religion has to go to him to confess of having sex..lolollol. sorry I agree with David…and no religion should force people to be so restrictiv. Might as well become a nun or priest…and even then…

      • David- You know your stuff! Not just about the abuse, but also how much shame the church causes. I wish everyone understood that this isn’t just the typical “he made a mistake by having sex outside of marriage.. whooptidoo… everyone makes mistakes and many religious people break their vows of chastity”. The LDS church has so much more power, control, and influence than most people can even imagine.

        • Jessica- You’re totally right! Of course, not many people will risk putting themselves in the position to admit their ‘wrongs’ for exactly that reason OR they’ll take the sacrament anyway because of the fear of judgement/criticism. It’s so nice to hear people that understand the inner-workings 🙂

35. She will most def.going to have to face the final judge in the end and she knows this of course I would be more worried about that judge than those in the courtroom.I dont know what made homie snap but it had to have have been something threatening to have so much overkill..

36. i can’t think of a worse situation to be in for jodie and her family. i hope there is reasonable doubt and she’s freed for time served. i don’t think there is any way to determine or prove what happened or what her state of mind was, but seems to me it was a temporary break of reality. I think she is sorry and should be forgiven making her pay for the rest of her life won’t bring travis back or help anyone. i think she should have to pay court costs and be on probation but go free and be allowed to live her life. lets hope.

    • I hope and pray for the same. She is not an evil person. A picture says a thousand words and those words are a tortured soul and a kind person. That 1000-yard-stare on her face is too much for anyone with empathy to ignore.

37. i don’t think it has been proven who sent the threatening email to travis girlfriend. They say jodi sent it, but today when listening to it, it sounded more like travis. travis referred to jodie as a whore and the words in the email telling the girl she was “entering into whoredom” i really think travis sent it and got off on it. i wish there was a way to prove .

    • Have you read anything Travis wrote? That letter was too well-written (style, diction, grammar) for him to be the author. I’m judging by comparing that letter to his blog.

      • Pique,

        I missed that part. Was attending to the children. Have you read Jodi’s blog? Maybe comparing both could help answer the question.

        • Yes, I read both Jodi’s and Travis’ blogs, CJ. Have you had a chance? Jodi is a strong writer; Travis, not so much. Of course, this doesn’t mean I think she wrote it–only that I doubt Travis did.

          My guess is that someone from the church wrote it. Someone who suspected Lisa was was having sex with Travis (we know that she wasn’t) and actually wanted to save her soul. You know, creepy and sexist but sincere in terms of the Mormon faith. Just a hunch.

          • Also, this threatening email to Lisa refers to Travis as “that insidious man.” Sounds like someone watching this love triangle (Jodi-Travis-Lisa) from a distance. I could be wrong, of course! That email is very interesting, indeed!

          • This threatening email did not, by the way, come up during trial today. Not that I heard, anyway. If I’m wrong and missed something, someone please correct me.

          • Thank you I believe that too or his roomate that never came home for 9 days….that doesnt make no sense to me that the other peeps that loved there never came home for all that time strange very very strange

          • Pique- You have so many valid points in my opinion.

          • I also suspect it was someone in the church who wrote the email. I think the church played a much greater role in this entire business than anyone will ever know.

      • Where are the blogs for both of them I cant find them?

        • Hers:
          http://jodiarias.blogspot.ca/

          His:
          http://travisalexander.blogspot.ca/

          • I just read 2008 blog entries from both… did the following give anyone else pause?

            Regarding the Law of Attraction:

            “I found out that even when you don’t believe in it, it still continues to work with perfect precision!” – Jodi Arias’ blog

            On Travis’s blog, regarding dating:

            “Desperately trying to find out if my date has an axe murderer penned up inside of her…”

            Maybe I should be taking the Law of Attraction more seriously!?!?

    • I would think with computer forensics being the way it is now that they would be able to determine WHERE and maybe from WHOM that email actually came from. Sometimes I wish I had a bunch of money just to donate to Jodi’s defense for more evidence investigation and expert witnesses.

      The prosecution implies things that Jodi has done but actually has not sufficiently proven any of them.

      • Yes, BeeCee, you would think they’d be able to determine at least where, geographically, it came from. But I would assume they did try to find out and came up with nothing. Hence, as with the slashed tires, the need to IMPLY that Jodi wrote it.

        Did the prosecution imply, earlier in the trial, that Jodi wrote this threatening email? I just can’t remember. And, if they did, did they actually quote from the letter in court?

        Another question: is the entire email available anywhere online? I know that it’s published on this website, on the “Martinez sideshow” thread, but it is introduced here as an “excerpt.”

        • Yeah, it’d seem they could at least come up with an IP address. I think that’s right? I’m not the most tech-saavy person…

38. Only saw a few minutes of the trial, had to work. Just on here to say that I am praying for Jodi.

39. court tv or hln played bits and peices of it to show jodi’s obsession, but it wasn’t mentioned in the trial.

40. I happened upon this site. The comments posted are very interesting. The only person I know for sure that I will pass judgement on is Nancy Grace. Yuck, that woman!!!!!!! She’s a cock roach. I could curse the idiots that gave her a platform in our society. Not since Sarah Palin, has our society seen so much stupitiy all wrapped up in one package. The whole Travis and Jodi case is very complicated. I just do not understand the whole “control” thing. I do believe that Travis was a dirt bag, lower than scum, and when a person uses religion to decide what is “right” and “wrong” is very sick in itself. I guess that I just do not understand why Jodi just did not walk away. There’s greater power in making an about face and walking than any revenge that can be brought upon a person. However, no one deserves to die in the manner that Travis did and I’ve known assholes with worse behavior than the behavior he exhibited with
    Jodi. No one knows why what happened, happened and I do have a great deal of empathy for Jodi. Being referred to as, “the three hole wonder, a slut, and a whore” as we’ll as probably numerous other disrespectful descriptions is very hurtful, ugly, and demeaning. I truly believe that Jodi is a good person, having no past criminal history or offences makes what she has admitted to doing all the more baffling. I’m sure she was not in her right mind at the time. It just goes to show that verbal abuse stricks at the very core of a person’s psyche and this altered her reality forever more. The scars of verbal abuse and being disrespected also last a lifetime.

    • I think I *might* understand why Jodi did not walk away… if you can put up with my psycho-babble 🙂

      When a person does not like an aspect of his or herself, that person continuously puts themselves in the same position in subconscious hopes that they will be able to overcome the disliked aspect and make a different choice.

      From what I see, Travis did not like that he could not say “no” to sex with Jodi, and kept putting himself in that position in hopes that he’d eventually conquer this “immorality”. I can especially see this in the sexual encounter following Jodi’s baptism… he shows his anger by bending her over and treating her as “dirty” as he feels for wanting it…

      Jodi, on the other hand, dislikes how she is unable to stay away from the man who views her as a whore. She hates how she gives in to him time and time again, which she does in hope that he will eventually validate her as a person by falling in love with her. The more she tries to please him, the more he despises her… she goes back in subconscious hopes that she will one day be able refuse his treatment by no longer “needing” his validation.

41. Has anyone heard why they couldn’t find the knife or gun, but that the camera was easy to find in the washer?
    Why did it take 5 days to find him in his own home?
    I’ve heard he was found in the bedroom, was it the bedroom or the shower?
    Of course no one saw him hit her or mistreat her. Abuse is always behimd closed doors.
    They are trying to say that Travis was afraid of Jodi?
    Why didn’t he leave her alone then?
    I don’t know how to say this, but Jodi seems very easily persuaded and tries to please.
    For instance the PreLegal and the Mormon church. It seems like Travis could persuade her into anything. He wasn’t afraid of her.
    Detective Flores kind of led her own. I know he’s lied.
    Like talking to her while she was driving??? He asked will it distract you?
    Like they say there is a lot more to it and Vinnie, Mike Brooks and and the rest of the pundits want everyone to hate her. They are the ones that cause all of the drama, hate and lies.

    • Dude thats what ive said all along – none of his roomies ever had to come home to wash their asses or whatever people are blackmailing and withholding info

42. I am so happy to be here and support Jodi. I am a supporter of Casey Anthony as well. Jodi, hang in there….I believe you. I was once in a relationship like yours and barely escaped with my life…I never got justice and he’s out there abusing someone else. I believe justice will be served properly in your case and I will always be here for you once this thing is put to rest <3

43. lol….I had pet rats too…they were the best pets.

44. OMG JODI IS ON THE STAND!!!! SHE HAS BALLS JUAN IS GOING TO EAT HER ALIVE

    • That lilliputian bully, Juan “double negative” Martinez is all bark no bite. Sure, he’ll employ his cheap, “I’ve watched too many episodes of L.A. Law” (thank you, Gus S.), courtroom histrionics; but his thrusts will be masterfully parried by the diamond sharp mind and rapier wit of Jodi Arias. I expect Jodi to keep her equanimity during the cross; same way she has during Juan’s voir dires. She’s way smarter than Juan and she’s dealt with bigger bullies effectively before.

      Then Kirk Nurmi will dispel any lingering doubt with a brilliantly methodical redirect. He is clearly head and shoulders above that Napoleon complex sufferer/compensator, Juan Martinez. Juan should pay more attention, he might just learn something. He should take an anger management class while court is on extended President’s Day recess too.

45. I have been gone a few days and have missed the trial. Sorry to say that I got a glimpse of it on Nancy G’s show tonight. I am surprised that Nancy is still on the air. I remember the Casey trial. Nancy was blairing about how Casey was going to get fried during the whole trial like a broken record…broken..brok..en..rec…record. All along, anyone with a brain knew from the get-go that Casey was going to walk. Nancy kept harping and harping and harping away until after the verdict, then she shut her blonde bimbo face and the world knew that Nancy was WRONG AGAIN!!!

    The little bit I caught was about how Jodi was physically abused as a child. Yea. I know about that too. It is yet another cardinal sign of why a person gets into an abusive relationship. I also was an abused child. My father died when I was 11 years old before I had reached a point in my life where I would have been strong enough to kill him. Yet God spared me from this also just like He spared me from killing the guy that was screwing my wife. (Read my other post and you will know what I am talking about.) I will explain my shared personality with Jodi below. But this isn’t about me; it is about Jodi.

    Jodi was predisposed to choose a relationship with a guy like Travis who was abusive to her because of the abuse she experienced as a child. Abused children grow up to get involved in dys-functional relationships where they continue to endure abuse. That is one reason why Jodi chose Travis and continued in a relationship with Travis after the abuse started. People who are raised in an environment of abuse migrate towards similar relationships because there is a certain level of security a person acheives while in the abusive relationship. In part the security comes from the fact that if the victim performs the way the abuser expects, then the victim will not be “punished.” To break clean from this sort of relationship requires going way out of the “comfort zone” and risking retaliation from the abuser for exposing the abuse. It is a distinct fear that the victim feels and it is a very powerful motivator to keep the victim bound into the abusive relationship. Jodi could not expose Travis because of the image that he had sold to all of his peers. Nobody would have believed it just like now at trial where people doubt that Travis could do such things. The plain truth is that Travis was a hypocrite who was using Jodi just for her physical body to supply his sick sexual needs.

    Just like me and my father, Jodi was cowering in fear throughout the relationship until a point where she perceived that she was going to be hurt. At that point, she unloaded on Travis and in the onslaught she killed him several times over out of fear that was perpetuated in her mind through weeks of emotional abuse caused by Travis. I can relate from my experience too. My father used to come home from work at 5 pm, eat and then take a 2 hour nap on the couch before going out all hours of the night to drink, cheat on my mother and hang with his friends before returning just in time to get a couple more hours of sleep and go back to his job. I would often sit in the chair watching him sleep during that short nap thinking how I wanted to bring a metal pipe in from the garage and bash his head in while I had the chance. I was only between the ages of 9 and 11 years old when I was planning his death. After several beatings, I was close to doing it when he died one April night from a massive heart attack at age 51. Given a few more months up to a couple more years, I would have killed him in his sleep with certainty. I would have been charged with murder like Jodi. Nobody would have known the level of abuse that led to the death. Nobody would have believed that such an upstanding citizen of the community like my father could have beaten his children so brutally that one of them would have killed him for it out of fear! Like Jodi, when a person is in an abusive relationship, that person is constantly in fear of their safety and always planning for the time that they have to use force to stop the abuser. So that is why Jodi packed weapons; Jodi was in constant fear of her safety.

    Many of you readers cannot relate because you have never been there in our situation. Those of you who have grown up in abusive relationships and have moved on into abusive marriages, you all know what I am talking about. Share your expreiences. That is what happened to Jodi and now she is fighting for her life for defending herself against the abuser.

    Jodi if you are reading, my prayers are with you. David

    • David
      Jodi deserves to be heard, and I am so glad she has taken the stand, and is finally going to stand up for herself. I hope her life is spared. I am disgusted with people screaming out online that she should lose her life. Travis was one way with his friends and another with Jodi. She knew the real Travis, and she still loved him. She tried to see the good in him and didn’t want to tarnish his image.
      I have stood in those same shoes. My father was an abusive drunk and also gambled. He would get paid, disappear for days and then come home broke. One time he gambled away our television, came home and rolled it out the door to pay off his debt. Often he would come home drunk and threaten my mother with a knife. The cops would come and tell my mother to leave my father alone, as he had a long day at work. This was in the early 70’s when domestic violence was not in the public eye like it is today. My sister and I would hide under our beds crying. I can relate to your story and also with Jodi, because I recognize all of the same behaviors you described and also how as a young adult I gravitated towards men that were just like my father. My father also sexually abused me, and to this day, I can tell no one because no one in my family would believe me. I have had to work through it by myself with counseling. I appreciate you sharing your story.. Thank you.

      • Thanks to all who understand and do not judge me for the comments I have made. Likewise, I would ask that people quit judging Jodi because nobody can understand the fear she felt during the moments leading up to the moment where she perceived a treat and unloaded her violent defense. Many abused people have potential to cause great harm. Often abused children go into other abusive relationships as adults and many become abusers themselves hurting animals or hurting other people. Others do not channel anger out to other people but channel it in and cut on themselves or commit suicide. Abused people have low self esteme and often believe they deserve the abuse they endure in a relationship. The often feel hopelessness and suicide is often their only clear solution.

        I was fortunate enough to break the cycle in my life. In my earlier post I talk about planning to kill my father and how I would have easily murdered the man who was sleeping with my first wife. I am not proud of this by any stretch. I do not routinely talk about these things either. I did get psychological help. I am happy to say that in the ten years of my first marriage that I never hit any of my step-children and never raised a hand to my wife even when she was verbally abusing me. I am sad that Jodi couldn’t get the help she needed before the years of abuse and emotional distress led to such a violent reaction to the threat she perceived in that short instant in time.

        I speak out about all of this because I know that Jodi endured a lot of horrible things. Sexual abuse on a young girl causes such deep pain. Being a man, I cannot even imagine how low she felt. When I hear about guys who do dirty things to girls, it angers me. It is even worse when these guys hide behind God while doing it. I am surprised that the Mormon church hasn’t run to Jodi’s side in her defense. Instead, some of their members have resorted to issuing threats to people in Jodi’s family according to what I read from the sister’s post. On top of that there is a stupid blonde bimbo on TV fueling the fire and swaying public opinion in favor of the prosecution. I think it would be difficult to get a fair trial with all of the media coverage. I hope that the defense team can be successful in conveying the mindset that Jodi was in when everything unfolded.

        Hang in there Jodi. There are a lot of people who may be against you but remember that there are those of us out here who understand and care for you. I hope you are free soon. David

        • “When I hear about guys who do dirty things to girls, it makes me angry”–this is music to my ears.

          Unfortunately, not enough women in this country think that guys doing dirty things to girls is anything that bad, nowadays–how sad it is that a man could have much more compassion for a woman that was so badly used, when the vast majority of women seem to want to believe that she had not one tiny reason to do what she did. I think she’s guilty–and that she’s been in jail long enough to pay for her crime considering what kind of hell he put her through.

          The morals are going right down the toilet in this country.

        • David,

          I can relate to you and want to say GOOD FOR YOU for breaking the cycle of abuse.

          I was in a similar position as you and contemplated killing my abuser as a teenager. I, too, was able to break the cycle of abuse when I became a parent myself, and it was not easy.

          My former abuser is still alive and has become a completely different person than he was. I am glad I didn’t kill him because I would have robbed him of the chance to make amends.

          He got the help he needed (as it turns out he suffered from PTSD resulting from some dark family secrets I knew nothing about at the time) and he continues to make amends to this day – even though I have long since forgiven him.

          In your case it seems God spared you by taking him out with a heart attack. Perhaps he wasn’t going to change and so his chance was revoked.

      • Thank you David and Trixels for sharing these deep n painful moments of your past. I am grateful for this site as we have the opportunity to share some of our traumatic pasts without being judged. I cant imagine the pain that Jodi must be feeling, all that she’s been through and the media’s judgements. I think yesterday was the most brutal, and lets not forget the humiliation of the nude photos for the world to see!!! I also grew up in an abuse home. My father was physically abusive to me n my brother. Not sexual but he would take rulers, belts, books and yes his fist. I was a very small girl n whenever id get a black eye or a busted lip, id have to go to school n put up an act, as if I had gotten into a fight with another kid n our neighborhood or something. And like Jodi, I also still loved n still love my dad and mom. They are also still together after 35 years and like Jodi described her parents relationship as loyal, mine were too. My mom would just sit there n watch. She hardly ever did the hitting, when she did it wasnt overboard but I think that by just sitting there watching letting it happen was just as bad. My dad was a different kind of abuser though. He wasnt drunk and that hurt even more. I would think that if he was drunk then that would be some type of excuse. I now know thats NOT an excuse but when I was young I did and maybe that was my way of looking for an excuse for the abuser. My dad also NEVER hit my mom OR my sister. Just me n my brother. Idk maybe “we” were the bad kids. The worse that we did was get bad grades n I snuk out once. Because of this I grew up intimidated by man. I didnt get physical with man until my late years n I had my 1st child at 31. Im 34 now, married with a USMC n I still have a hard time showing him affection. He also grew up in a similar environment but his mom was the physical one, so we understand each other n we will have a no hitting rule in our home. People shouldnt be hit n animals either!!! Anyway, I just wanted to share my story too. Thank u for opening up n sharing, David n Trixels. Everyone on this site seem so understanding and easy to communicate with.

        ♥Lets pray for Jodi to have an awesome day today!

        • LC, Thanks for sharing your story too. Sadly, for every one of us who speak out there are probably 100 or more that keep their pasts quietly tucked away. I had to come to grips with my father later in life since I was so young when he died. My father was also abused as a child and that explains why he became such an abusive parent. We learn how to treat our spouses through the examples set forth by our parents. Boys learn how to treat women by the examples set by their fathers. The cycle has to be broken otherwise it continues for generations. For me, it took understanding the abuse that my father endured and then I had to forgive him. I had to go to his grave and tell him that whatever happened in the past is washed white as snow. That released me from the bondage that held on to me for years. I also had to change the learned behavior that I received from him. That was hard to do and it took a lot of work and a long time.

          In Travis’s defense, I would say that he did not have a good role model on how to treat ladies. Travis must have experienced abusive attitudes towards women from a weak male figure in his family who did not understand the true beauty of a lady. Or maybe he learned it from his friends if no male role model was available. Abusive behavior is learned. So in effect, when Travis was a little boy learning how to play with the little girls, he got the wrong training. Ladies are special people who should be treated with dignity and respect, appreciated for the tender nature of their hearts and their physical beauty should be honored with clean intentions. Travis must have been taught that women were objects to be used, abused and then kicked to the curb. The people who taught Travis wrong behavior, in effect, helped pull that trigger too. Will any of them ever realize this? I doubt it! People are quick to throw stones at others but how many can see clear enough to pull the plank out of their own eyes?

          I continue to pray for Jodi and hope that she maintains her strength.

          • David, I had to stop n put my notebook down, your post had me crying… crying for my brother, see I myself found my way also to forgive my dad. But my brother, im not sure. When you said, that u had to go to his grave and tell him that whatever happened in the past was washed white as snow. it scares me because I know that my brother hassnot forgiven my dad, I can see it in his eyes, the pain is still there. Maybe because he is the only boy n he felt like he should’ve had that son n father connection n they didnt. And I keep on reading your post n it is so true, its so real… one has to change these learned behaviors and I csn clearly see this from him (my brother) he is such a great proud dad to TWO BOYS!!! Even writing this, im getting emotional. Im so happy that he atleast has the chance to show his two boys how to be better man. He has that connection with them that he craved from my dad (our abuser). Thank you David, I think ill go call my bro, see how he’s doing!!! Lol

        • You all have me teary-eyed :'( Thanks everyone who has explained your stories of trauma.
          LC- Do you think your brother unfairly blames himself for not ‘protecting’ you against your father? I’m not saying he should feel that way- I’ve just heard that a lot of guys will blame themselves because they feel it was their ‘role’ to protect their mother/siblings from abuse, even if they were very young themselves.

          For all the women that have been abused by their fathers (or have even lacked a strong bond with their father)- I have a book I started reading a long time ago called The Unavailable Father- Seven ways women can understand, heal, and cope with a broken father-daughter relationship- by Sarah Simms Rosenthal, PhD. It explains how important the father’s role is in a daughter’s life and how it can set the tone for her future relationships, how she will expect/deserve to be treated (especially by men), etc.

          • Oh thank you, Jamie! I will definitely download the book n look into it. Sounds interesting, never heard of it. As for my brother, I dont know if he feels this was. Iv never asked him but its possible. We are very close but we dont talk much about what we went through growing up with our dad. He treats his wife n kids SO good, he makes me proud that he’s become the man that he is. Maybe one day, ill sit with him n ask him that. He’s a funny guy, so I can see him blowing it off with a joke, to avoid the conversation. But thank u, jamie… I will look into that book.

    • Great post David! I totally understand 🙂 For me it made it hard to know where to draw the line in a relationship…but I eventually learned.

      This pretty much sums it up for a lot of abused people: “Nobody would have believed that such an upstanding citizen of the community like my father could have beaten his children so brutally that one of them would have killed him for it out of fear!”

    • I, too, am amazed any of those HLN shows are still on the air. They simply undermine the right of defendants to have a fair trial by stoking up public outrage for ratings. It’s disgusting. The Casey Anthony case was the classic example of the mob mentality at work, total manipulation by the media for ratings. Never mind the fact the prosecution there had no real case at all against her, for if you can’t even determine how the alleged victim died, how in the world can you sit there and prosecute a case?

      I have followed the Arias case from the time it first became nationally known when it was broadcast on 48 Hours. I live in southern Oregon, in Medford, in fact, not far from where Jodi Arias lived for much of her life. As this case has worn on, I have had conflicting opinions about it. She shouldn’t get the death penalty because this is clearly a second-degree murder case, a crime of passion. On the other hand, she really messed up when she didn’t exercise her Miranda rights and get an attorney. She needed to keep her mouth shut to both the police and the media. Now she may pay for this oversight with her life since she told at least three different stories. That’s why many people out here doubt her anything she says; she blew it by not keeping quiet about it and letting the attorneys do the work. Furthermore, you have Travis’s many friends and family members out there talking to the media painting Jodi as this Jezebel who seduced this innocent guy and nary a word in rebuttal. It’s clear the guy was a con man and a jerk and a far cry from what he pretended to be to his friends. That doesn’t justify being butchered, but there is a whole lot more going on here than what we’ve been told.

      • Tonysam, you bring up some good points. One thing for sure is that the prosecution will try to say that if Jodi lied and changed her story, how can you believe her now. I think the answer is very simple. Jodi was afraid and Jodi could not trust that the police would believe that Travis attacked her. Lying is something everyone has done. It is sometimes a moral issue but most of the time it is done out of fear. The common theme in jodi’s life has been a mantra of fear that has plagued her for most of her life. Besides that, how would anyone expect the police to understand the psychological impact of sexual, emotional and physical abuse. It is contrary to their training. They use force, fear and deception to get people to talk. It would have been better for Jodi to have remained silent and never to have spoke with the media. The police are not your friends. Police have a mentality to not trust anything a person says. That is part of their training. They have an important purpose in society and I am not here to bash the police. However, their main goal is to make an arrest. So, never speak to the police if there is even a remote chance you can be arrested for something. The media often conducts interveiws with analysts and voice polygraph experts sitting off camera. That was how they knew that Susan Smith acted alone in the murder of her children. After their interveiw with Jodi, they knew that they did not have the correct story. Now Jodi is opening up and everything she says has the ring of truth because everything makes logical sense.

        The fact that Jodi did not have a pre-planned story is strong evidence that the killing was not premeditated. Someone who plans a murder gets all the details worked out in advance. Jodi is a smart girl and she would have had some explanation for her time around the event. She would have selected a method that would not leave evidence like cameras, palm prints in the blood and a locked door behind her. She would have taken Travis’s money to make it look like a break in and theft. The fact that she made phone calls to Travis after the event illustrates that Jodi was still operating in a fearful and reactive mode. There is not one of us who would not lie if we thought that we could divert attention away from us. So lying is natural when a person “fears.”

        Tonysam, you bring up a point about a crime of passion and second degree murder. I could almost buy second degree murder if Jodi had not endured all of the abuse that led to the event. If someone merely gets angry and over-reacts and they kill someone, I can see that as second degree murder and a crime of passion. When you add all of the abuse, torment and confusion that was interjected through the dirty sex mixed in with Holy Mormon faith, then it leads to the question of what Jodi perceived. If Jodi perceived a threat of harm, then it is self defense and reaction to fear; not a crime of passion. We cannot go into Jodi’s mind and know with certainty whether or not she perceived such a level of fear that she would use deadly force to stop the attack. All we have to do is evaluate whether or not it is possible based on the testimony, and that is in my book reasonable doubt. Self defense is an absolute defense and the prosecution has to show that it could not have happened the way Jodi says in order to refute it. I think that Jodi should walk free.

        • Thank you for bringing up the topic of dirty sex—when I was in my mid-20’s, in the 1980’s, I had a boyfriend who had, unfortunately seen an awful lot of pornography (both movies and magazines) before we met, and I struggled constantly in my relationship with him to try to keep our sexual relationship at least half-way clean or normal. He and all of his friends were pretty heavy porn users for that time, which is considered just “normal” now, and their ideas of what women were like sexually, or wanted sexually, were quite skewed. He and I had both been badly abused by family members, and he seemed to have a very hard time resisting the inclination to degrade me with one thing or another, sexually or otherwise, throughout our entire relationship. To make a long story short, after conning me for 6 months that he was the only man who would ever love me this much, which would mean that I owed him my undying loyalty, he practically overnight became bored with the whole thing and would do his best to avoid me without actually breaking up with me. By the time this happened I was very attached to him, and I was also very in love with him as well.

          I was EXTREMELY angry at him for his withdrawal from me, especially after all the brainwashing he’d used on me (like lecturing me on how I owed him everything in a parked car for at least an hour almost every night of the week), and after all of the sex we’d had, which was never anything casual to me in the least. I’m very sorry to say that I wanted to literally kill him, to put it bluntly. After starting to actually plan his murder (he has no idea how close he came to losing his life), I knew I was probably losing my mind and headed for prison, so I turned in desperation to Jesus, who took enough of the pain away in about 15 minutes flat to make the agony and outrage of what had happened to me just bearable enough for me to stop planning to kill him.

          Although I’ve now been very happily married for 20 years, and see sex between unmarried people as not good, at that time in my life I was ripe for being used by someone like this, and poor Jodi, having the rotten luck of being a young person in this day and age, was also certainly damaged by what Travis did to her. I still to this day get nervous when I’m alone with any men that I don’t know very well (like getting panicky at the optometrists), and my reaction is exactly like I’ve been sexually molested, even though I never have been actually, technically molested. These panic attacks that would result from being alone with men, even when alone with my own Dad, who hadn’t been my family abuser, all started right after I broke up with that boyfriend in the 80’s.

          I believe that ALL of the un-committed sex that women have, even if they initiated it, is ultimately traumatizing, which I know would been seen as an extreme position by many people, but this has been my own personal experience. So not only do I have no trouble understanding why Jodi was truly traumatized by the sex that she had with Travis (even though it was consensual), due to his lack of respect and refusal to commit to her, but I also understand the part about being mad enough afterwards to be able to actually murder someone. Pornography trains men to see women as worthless (and trains women to see themselves as worthless as well), and it also makes men tired of their partners much faster than they would be otherwise. There is plenty of pornography on the internet at this point that features anal sex between heterosexuals, and although many people now see this as normal, due to sheer repetition, I think that the idea that this is MEANT to degrade the “receiver”, in most instances, hasn’t gone away, and that any man who truly loved or respected a woman would not only never ask her to do this, but that he probably wouldn’t even have it OCCUR to him to do this to her—I once had a boyfriend ask me to do this, and I broke up with him just for asking.

          Travis didn’t necessarily have to have had anyone in his life actually teach him to disrespect women—pornography teaches men to disrespect woman very effectively all by itself.

          • Thank you for sharing your story. Sexual abuse sure causes a lot of damage and I am glad that you are in a happy marriage.

            Just on here to say that I am praying for Jodi.

          • Someone doesn’t have to be raped, by legal standards, to be thoroughly damaged by a sexual act, and I can’t believe that Nancy Grace, etc. keeps referring to Jodi as apparently not that badly hurt by Travis because she went back for more—we’ve known for quite a while now that people who’ve been molested often go along with the degradation willingly, will afterwards gravitate towards people who will abuse them in a similar manner, and that they will often appear to others to be pursuing the very thing that you’d think they would hate after what had happened to them–and this is why the teen-aged girl who’s molested by a father or step father, who then goes on to be a prostitute or a porn actor, is now a cliché. Nancy and her ilk know better than to go down the “then why did she keep going back to him” road over and over again, as well as repeatedly and shamelessly shouting down anyone who tries to point this already well-known fact out, and it’s unconscionable to me that this same claptrap gets repeated incessantly on TV and on the internet concerning Jodi, as if there couldn’t possibly be any on other logical, rational way of looking at this.

            Nancy had to reluctantly admit that people were becoming more sympathetic towards Jodi last night, but then quickly added that she thought that when Jodi is questioned by the prosecution, that she will be then be seen to be the complete liar that she really is—first of all, Jodi is getting more sympathy because she’s letting us see the real Travis—HER Travis, not the Travis that all the rest of his associates knew, the one who didn’t seem to have any significant problems. And HOW DARE anyone assume she’s lying about him—if she was lying (which I believe she didn’t need to, since his real behavior was obviously despicable enough in and of itself), but that if she was going to lie, then why wouldn’t she be making him look even worse—hey, if you’re going to lie, then why not embroider the whole thing to make him look as bad as possible, especially if your very life is on the line.

            And I also realized that men also get very emotionally and mentally wounded by women who don’t care to commit to them or treat them right, as well, and that I should have included that in my last post. If one person, male or female, thinks twice now about taking someone for a ride like the one that Travis took Jodi on, as a result of this case being all over the media, then this horrible tragedy (which was a tragedy for both Travis AND Jodi) will have thankfully borne some good fruit.

            Your compassion for women, David, and the compassion of ALL of the men who have posted here in the defense of Jodi, is very, VERY refreshing, to say the least.

          • Irola-
            Thanks for sharing your story. I’m sorry you had to endure all that.

            I understand what you mean about feeling uncomfortable around men, and even someone you shouldn’t feel threatened by. I think the hypervigilance after trauma is likely what contributes to ‘being on edge’, more aware of your surroundings, fear that anyone (especially men) as a potential threat, and so on…

            My traumas have really affected my relationships. Affection, intimacy and touching can be okay/ feel good one minute and then I’ll start getting flashbacks and will feel that my boundaries are being invaded, touch feels dirty, i begin to feel like just an object to the guy, and then agitation/rage.

            It sucks that the guy who raped me continues to take from me- My relationships don’t last because my boyfriends haven’t been able to understand what’s going on. They have a difficult time accepting that I have trouble with intimacy, or that I get flashbacks of my rape/rapist sometimes when THEY touch me. I beat myself up mentally because I’m still so dysfunctional. (I have been/am currently in therapy getting help) It’s just amazing how different kinds of trauma can affect people in so many different ways.

            I’m with you on the ‘porn’ subject. If I’m dating someone and I find out they look at porn- for some reason I become immediately disgusted & turned-off by them. I think it bothers me because it brings thoughts and feelings of women being objectified and just used for sexual pleasure. I’m not a prude and am normally open to a lot of things. It’s such a trigger for me though. A lot of times I won’t be able to get the image out of my head of my bf looking at/ viewing porn. I believe porn can desensitize a person to others’ feelings & sexual boundaries.

            I don’t mean to complain so much about men- that’s just been the majority of my experience. I do believe women can be just as manipulative, hurtful and abusive towards men.

        • David- Thanks for mentioning what you did about the police. I don’t have anything against the police either, and would want to immediately ask for an attorney (guilty or not) because of their natural doubt. When someone thinks it’s a sign of ‘guilt’ when a person immediately asks for an attorney- I just think they’re being smart and know better than to risk it.

          • @ Irola David, me and all the rest of the “True Men” here see the much BIGGER picture when it comes to women. We are concious of the fact that life comes from the female! Malcolm X said something to the fact that it is the mother who is the cornerstone, or foundation of the family. She is the first teacher of the child period! Hence the saying, “One man equals an individual, one woman equals a nation”.

            In closing all I can say is good lord! Most women are just asking men to treat them like equals when in reality they should rightfully be demanding men to treat them more like SUPERIORS!!!

          • Tony-
            Your post was so nice to read. It means more than you are probably aware of. Sometimes it seems like respectful, thoughtful men no longer exist. Your post gives me hope that they do. Thanks for your endearing perspective.

          • You are most welcome Jamie!

    • Thank you for your honesty, and thank you for having compassion for Jody.

    • David-
      Thank you so much for your courageous post. I believe everything you said and can relate in so many ways. Although the circumstances are awful, it’s still nice to hear (especially for those that don’t understand why she stayed with him/went back to him) the mentality behind it explained in such detail. You’ve given a very thorough and honest account of what abuse can do to a person’s psyche.

      As you described earlier, people that have been abused will often recreate the chaotic, volatile environment because that’s what they’re used to- that’s what feels ‘comfortable’ and strangely ‘safe’ to them. Sometimes it seems that’s all we/they deserve (in our minds anyway) because we don’t know any different.

      I’m sorry you had to go through what you did and I appreciate that you are willing to allow yourself to be vulnerable by telling your experience. Thank you.

46. I was just listening to her testimony about the prepaid legal meeting in Vegas. It sounds a hell of a lot like a Landmark Education Forum. If you Google Landmark Education, Prepaid Legal, and Mormon you may find a fully rational defense. Read the Rick Ross site about that Landmark Cult. If that Travis was a member of Landmark, I would now have reasonable doubt.

    • I’ll have to check that stuff out. I found the pre-paid legal thing interesting in the first place because I knew so many LDS people here in UT trying to sell it.

47. Hi Everyone

    I have a question about Travis. He’s always mentioned as “financially successful” and “godly.”

    Was there any evidence to support the idea that he was financially successful?

    Here’s why I’m asking.

    I spent an hour or so on websites for Maricopa County. He bought his house in 2004 for $249,918.
    He took out two mortgages totaling $249,834.
    He retires the debts of 2004 in 2006. He takes out another mortgage for $336,000

    In 2008, he refinances the sum of $332,500.

    Ok, so that “big real estate bubble time.” A lot of people were doing it. Fine.

    After his death, on the 10th of October 2008 there’s a document indicatingforeclosure. It’s auctioned and eventually sold for $206,000

    Foreclosure and auction…. not paid off by life insurance, not paid down by life insurance, not left to family as a (debt encumbered) asset, not left to the church… house is gone.

    So what am I missing?

    What is it about this man that makes so many people label him “financially successful” and “godly?”

    -Jon

    • Jon, It is called “Snake Oil.” If you put it in a pretty bottle, put a fancy label on it and line up a bunch of people who claim it cures cancer, arthritis and all other ailments, people will buy it. They don’t find out that it is phony until after they taste it and realize that it was only cheap whiskey. That explains Travis. Jesus was talking about the hypocrites in John Chapter 15 as being like white washed tombs that appear so beautiful on the outside but filled with corruption, bones and death on the inside. This was Travis.

      • Yep!

48. Dear Family of Jodi,
    My heart goes out to you all, I went to high school with Jodi’s mother and aunt. My heart breaks for your family. I remember Jodi, as a young girl, she came from such a good family , how can this have happened? Jodi, because of her beauty was manipulated by others. Dear family, you are in my prayers and I stand behind you!!! ~Julia~

49. Thank you, David.

    That’s pretty potent “Snake Oil.”

    It does fit the circumstances, but it casts witnesses against Jodi Arias in a really poor light.

    I’d like to believe that witnesses would have put all that together and determined for themselves that there was an hypocrisy that needs to be acknowledged during interviews with law enforcement and lawyers , but I realize there is a lot to protect, a lot of religion, commitments and appearances which might not hold under serious scrutiny. I can also see leaders directing attention to the gore and away from reasons for the gore.

    I wouldn’t want Jodi, or anyone, to be convicted – or deprived of personal liberty, of life – for a “cover up.”

    That’s a dark picture of the Mormon faith, of our culture, if not humanity as a whole.

    There’s really no other reason for bloggers and forum members to label Travis Alexander “financially successful and godly,” besides “snake oil?”

    -Jon

    • Jon, thank you for your comments. I agree with you that there has been a lot of scandal throughout the history of the Mormon faith. It has occured in every sector of religion from Catholics to Baptists to Pentacostals. When man becomes the focus and not God, there is always greed and desire for power. With organized religion comes the power to control people and their money. Evil people infiltrate these churches for personal gain. We are probably talking about a small handful in every organization. The rest of the people are just like you and me. Many love God and want to do the right things for their families. I don’t think that the Mormon church has any real hidden agenda that is directed at harming Jodi. Many of the witnesses who know the true nature of Travis and his behavior towards Jodi are probably living in fear of retailiation from someone from this small handful of people I have described. They may never come forward. I think that the people of the Mormon church were blind-sided and deceived by Travis’s lies the same way Jodi was deceived. We all have faults. Travis fell prey to the same temptations of the world that all of us experience. It is a battle between the Spirit of God and the flesh of mankind. Travis chose to follow a carnal path. Travis was selfish and chose to exploit Jodi for her body. The Mormon church cannot be proud to call Travis one of their own. Travis was not a “poster boy” for the Mormon church but was supposed to be through his inspirational messages to their young people. Travis brought a false message. Jodi was baptized in the Mormon faith. Why didn’t the Mormons take Jodi under their wings? If they love Jodi the way God loves the Church, then why do they stand back and allow one of their children to be drug through a legal battle for her life? Instead many are shedding tears for Travis who is yet another person who will go down in history as a person who brought great scandal to the Mormon faith. The Mormons do not deserve it! Moreover, Jodi did not deserve it!

      I hope that Jodi doesn’t lose faith in the living God who walks among us. People who put their faith in churches or men will be greatly disappointed. Jodi keep God in your heart. Don’t lose faith because of what people did to you. Many of us love you and are praying for you.

      David

    • Jon-
      You may find a lot of interesting info. on this site I’m going to list below. If you look on the right side column there is something that says “365 Topics”. If you click on that you’ll find a number of different categories, many of which can explain the deception 🙂

      http://www.mormoncurtain.com/

50. I completely support Jodi Arias! People think that domestic abuse is something you can see from the outside of a relationship, and that you can ask friends of the domestic violence victim if they have ever “witnessed” the abuse… of course not! The abuse happens behind closed doors… if the abuser did it publicly they would be arrested! Travis Alexander was filthy, did anyone hear when Jodi said that he adjusted the mirror so he can watch her as she was “performing” on him in the car, this is only minutes after he talking to her about the Book of Mormon?? Who does that? My heart goes out to the Arias family, as I know that you guys don’t have much support but I’m definitely on Jodi’s side. I could only imagine the stress Jodi must have been under knowing that she had to “obey” Travis as a boyfriend and an elder of the Mormon Church.

    • I thought the anal sex session on the day of Jodi’s baptism was just nauseating. Church elder and virgin, not so much!

      • A male caller on Dr Drew last night said the very same thing–well, he exactly said he had sympathy for Travis until he bent her over for anal sex on the day of her baptisim.

        • Things like this leave me utterly speechless.

    • I thought I might’ve heard that about the car mirror, but wasn’t sure if I just imagined it or not. I was disgusted when it came to mind though. I’m not a prude by any means- I think I was most disgusted by his actions (giving her the BOM, then requesting oral sex & adjusting the mirrors) and the ‘good-guy’ front he portrayed to everyone.

51. I am sitting here watching this trial, of coarse like always my family is against her, just because of the charge, there is no doubt in my mind that travis alexander beat the hell out of her, it was self defense

52. I have migrated from another popular website whose members’ sole purpose is to form an opinion beforehand and hold a noose in their hands while waiting for the trial to end. I find their lynch mob mentality to be so far distanced from their self-proclaimed sleuthing abilities as to be laughable. They act more like grade school children, giggling at sexual photos and cheering on Nancy Grace. I’m thankful those people were not selected to be on a jury of Jodi’s “peers”.

    At the very least, I feel Jodi should be given a chance to tell her side of the story, hopefully as truthfully as possible this time. Her testimony so far seems to be free of most of the incriminating body language she displayed while lying to the lead detective.

    • My post in her defense was removed 3 hours later on this particular site that you mentioned yesterday.

      A bunch of cackling hens that don’t care about whether she was even abused or not, and in my opinion using IS abusing.

53. I realize some of the things I’m about to type here may be misinterpreted by some of you who are so sure this was self defense. This may not get posted but I’m going to give my opinion anyway. At first I was very consumed with sadness for this poor man brutally murdered by this psycho. However, I now sit on the fence. Why? I have followed this case on every channel that has a broadcast about it, I have seen the photos more than i like to admit, I have watched every single minute of the trial, and read hundreds of articles, blogs, facebook, etc. after hearing Jodi for the past 3 days I feel like I know her better. I too have experienced everything she has talked about and more. Travis reminds me of a man I dated for 3 years. He had his act together so to speak. He had a well paid, prestigious job. He was well known and liked in my community. He was even respected by many people. I did not kill him, but he tried to kill me several times. The relationship started out as him pursuing me while he had a gf. She cheated and he beat her then broke up with her. This is after he kept her in his home for 4 days to nurse her bruises so that she could not go to the cops with any evidence. Keep in mind I did not know this until the end of our relationship. He introduced me to drugs which i had never done before and lots of crazy sexcapades. At first it was all about wooing me with his nice house, cars, boat, and a never ending supply of money. An uneducated 21 year old girl longing to be loved, accepted, respected, and successful was what I was at the time. I was severely abused by my parents, mainly my dad my whole life up until the age of 18. I was molested in the sixth grade. So I have terribly low self esteem, and no self respect. I went through an incident in highschool where my “sweetheart” finally convinced me to have sex. After he took my virginity he ran all over school giving sordid details about it and all of it was bs. So highschool was complete and utterly shameful for me. I digress. My point is this man who introduced me to all these new things had practically brainwashed me. I thought i was nothing without him. The first attempt to kill me was at a bar after I walked in on him getting a blowjob from another man! I flipped! Who wouldn’t right?! So i stormed out he followed and I called him some harsh names referring to what I just witnessed and got a kick right in my gut so hard I flew back what seemed like forever and landed on my back on the pavement. Next thing I know I’m being dragged across the parking lot by the hair of my head. Once I started to get my wits about me I started fighting like hell to get on my feet. I guess I should tell you this guy was on steroids and 6’4″. I was 105lbs soaking wet and 5’1″. So you can imagine how easily it was for him to toss me around like a ragdoll. I couldn’t get to my feet but had managed to get flipped around so that I was facing the pavement. My white jeans were torn and bloody on the knees and as I felt a really hard yank to my head the next thing I knew was watching a huge pothole the size of a car full of muddy water getting ready to welcome me in. He let go and i pushed myself up and started to get in a position to run. He then picked me up around the waist and toted me like a football to his car. He put me in the passenger seat and buckled me in. When he got to the drivers side i was fumbling w the seatbelt to bolt from the car. That really made him mad. He seized me by the throat and pulled me with all his might which landed me on my back on the center console between our seats. He continued choking me so I started kicking. I kicked hard and wherever my kicks landed I struck with all the force I could possibly produce. As I’m kicking he’s squeezing harder and pushing as hes doing so which puts me in an upside down position. The top of my head was digging into the floor board behind the console and the bottom half of my body still laid across the console. I remember thinking this was the end of my rope. I was about to die all because of wounded pride. God wasn’t ready for me yet and I believe he gave me the strength I needed to get out of this mans death grip. I wa still kicking this whole time and I was exhausted and blood was rushing to my head and I couldnt breathe. Finally one of my kicks found his head and I kicked again once I realized it was his head I was kicking. He lossened his grip and finally let go and I flipped over the console backwards and gave him one more kick to the face found the door handle and ran as fast as I could to the entrance of the bar. He high tailed it out of there and spent 2 weeks after this took place sending me gifts, apologies, and proof he was going to a therapist for help. I got sucked back in and the second time involved a knife to my throat. I won’t tell the rest of the story but I tell you this to make my point. He was a master manipulator. He controlled me like a puppet on strings and I let him because he is what I thought I wanted. I thought I loved him. I hung on his every word even though I wa scared to death of him. He had this way about making me believe I needed him. During that relationship I had thoughts of killing him in his sleep, or while in the shower, anytime he was vulnerable. But I am not a killer. I do strongly believe that Jodi may have been manipulated by Travis. It may not have been as severe as what I endured but every person is different and I can see why or how she could be driven to what she did. If I had been prepared to fight back, meaning if I had weapons close to me, I would have used them. When it comes to your life or the person’s life who is threatening yours, trust me YOU always fight for YOU. Maybe she had that gun in case he snapped on her again. Who knows. I also could see this being an “if I can’t have you no one can” type of situation as well. I’ve been there. I know that feeling of loving someone so much and counting on thier love and loyalty to you and being told it will never go further than sex every now and then. Its infuriating. Its a strong strong feeling of hopelessness and deep despair. You feel like nothing is ever going to be good for you again. That there will never be another guy like him and you can’t bear the thought of him happy and loving someone else. That could be what this is all about too. Maybe she went there to be with him an after yielding to his sexual desires he has a talk with her about breaking ties for good. What happened between 1:45 and 5:30? Maybe that was the talk which escalated to a fight which escalated to these feeling I just mentioned. Whatever the case may be I don’t think another life should be taken for this. I don’t agree with the death penalty unless someone of a sound mind kills brutally just for the fun of it. Sorry i typed so much but I hope you understand my point of view. Also, i would say rest easy jodi fans. I believe Martinez is going to end up losing his temper and being cruel to her which will most definitely illicit sympathy from the jury. At this point in time with the given knowledge we have thus far I think the jury will be hung, or they will say guilty an she will get a life sentence. I just pray that the truth comes out in court so that these jurors can come to the RIGHT verdict.

    • You didn’t write too much.

      Thank you for telling what happened to you–I am extremely glad you lived through knowing this man–you were almost a statistic.

      Jodi desreves to be heard. She was manipulated, used, and tossed aside by Travis who was so sure he was in the “driver’s seat” in their relationship that he thought he could safely have sex with her one more time and still not want to marry her.

    • Lucy, thank you for sharing! You endured so much. I am happy that you can open up to get it all out. That is part of the healing process. Jodi kept all of hers inside for so long. I hope Jodi has the opportunity to heal and get the help she will need in order to have a meaningful relationship. That is down the road. For now, I will be happy to know that she is walking free.

    • Wow! I’m glad you were able to get away from this guy. It sounds like you were ‘lucky’ in being able to do so- I say ‘lucky’, but not because it was ‘lucky’ that you were treated the way you were- only because you were able to escape. Thank you for sharing your story with us all. Reading it was intense and I could imagine everything so clearly. The details of that day/relationship have really stuck with you. You were brave then, and you are brave now. Take care.

    • lucy, your insight from someone who has been through this is very telling. I agree and feel the same as you. I do not believe in the death penalty tho just because I do not believe anyone, including the law, should take a life as means of penalizing someone. I wish you well and it seems like you have grown stronger from your ordeal. I will pray for you to stay strong and wish you the best in life. I hope you stay a strong advocate for domestic abuse.

    • Lucy: Your post is amazing. My sister had similar experiences. Her husband once drove her and their 5 year old child to the top of a scenic mountain in Canada. He grabbed her and held her by the ankles, head down, looking into this very deep canyon. Only when she screamed, which caused her son to cry for his mommie, did the man bring her back inside the railing. By the way, on Travis: when I hear the words ‘Charismatic and motivational speaker,’ I hear psychopath. Go, Jodi.

54. This forum is awesome. I love the intelligent conversation!

    I have a question 1) Did Jodi have to plea that she killed in either self-defense or in a moment of passion? I mean, does she have to pick one and only one?

    I see arguments on both sides, but I don’t see why either plea has to be mutually exclusive.

    I can see how it *may* have unfolded – that she killed him in self defense AND snapped, making it also a crime of passion where she took out her hate with the repeated stabbing and throat-slashing.

    If he was sexually aggressive with her (maybe even to the point of rape) she may have been submissive during the act (everyone I know who has been raped by someone she was dating did not fight back, but quietly endured it out of fear and shock) but afterwards something came over her and she killed him both out of defense and passion. Her statements of not particularly liking the sex but “going with it” and “at the point of no return having already committed to the act” sorry I can’t remember the exact quotes, but her statements reminded me of situations I have been in where I did not want to start or continue sexual activity but felt a strong inability to say “no”… a powerful obligation. I can relate to that part of Jodi’s testimony.

    Or perhaps he was going to want anal again and she knew she could not say “no” (she’s admitted she can’t say no) and didn’t want to endure the pain… and during the act of killing him she became enraged.

    I guess I’m trying to say why does it have to be so black and white? I’ve never been there so I cannot imagine what I would or would not do. Especially with someone like Travis who has been characterized as being charismatic and a good motivational speaker.

    I’m not sure how is it that someone can say “if it was in self-defense, she would have shoot/stabbed and then ran.” How would someone know that? I cannot even say what *I* would do let alone someone I don’t know.

    I mean, there is such thing as shock… and I totally agree with the above poster who said she should not be put to death for lying. Who knows, if I was in her position I may suddenly find my normally truthful self spewing lies left and right and possibly even forgetting it out of subconscious denial.

    I would love to hear responses and other points of view….

    • I’d like to mention in this comment…”if he was suxually aggressive with her (maybe even to the point of rape)…” Please explain how the baptism bending her over is not rape…there is no maybe about this incident. She testified she did not do this willingly at any time, regardless of if she screamed no… he did not ask her permission, nor did she give him permission before he started… she was manipulated into it and was afraid to stop him…due to the mental abuse (not wanting to displease him or reject him)… this is rape in my definition…and problematic with the population… this is also the reason why people do not understand marital rape and how it isn’t consentual and hard to convict…

      • All good points, Penelope.

      • Penelope – I have the same view as you, I may not have been clear about it and would like to clear it up.

        My point is that many people don’t have an accurate idea of rape in their minds, and don’t understand that just because a female doesn’t “fight back” doesn’t mean she wasn’t raped.

        When I say “sexually aggressive” I mean strongly pursuing a sexual encounter, NOT forcing one.
        And by “maybe even to the point of rape” I am saying “maybe” because I don’t know that her story is true and so want to be careful about my phrasing. I want to acknowledge that real-life rape IS what Jodi is describing, while being respectful of the fact that it can’t be proven and the victim is not here to defend himself.

        In no way am I saying that the post-baptism anal sex wasn’t rape.

    • It is like everything is black and white on Nancy Grace, etc.–that’s why the posts on here sound intelligent, because life isn’t black and white, and anyone with any discernment is able to see that Travis had his own assortment of problems, too.

      She doesn’t deserve the death penalty.

      IMO he pushed her already fragile personality too far with the S&M crap. People who want to play the role of “master” better hope that the “slave” dosen’t feel compelled to get back at them later.

      He saw her as a easily usable idiot.

      • When nancy G. first came on the air, I used to listen to her because at first she was reporting as a legal analyst and I am interested in law. As the show progressed, I noticed a one-sidedness about Nancy G. She would invite intellectual high profile guest on her show. When it was their turns to talk, Nancy would cut them off and interrupt to get her point across. I found myself always wondering what those other experts were thinking but they could not get a word in past the sound of her harping voice. Then, after she totally blew the analysis of the casey trial, I could see that the program has no useful purpose on the air. I stumbled onto it a few days ago and it was the same old horsecrap. Nancy’s agenda is to bash anyone who is on trial for anything in order to try to stimulate ratings. Most of us people who have followed Nancy’s show in the past have long since gone to better things. I think Lizzard Lick Towing has more facts on their program than Nancy has on hers!

        • I agree with you 100% on every point you made!

    • yes she had to pick they are totally different she should of picked passion. Hard to say he was the agresser when he was the one naked in a vulnerable position. I believe she did it as a crime of passion due to the build up of abuse in her lifetime.

      • So she did have to pick one or the other. Hmm…. I wonder why they went with self-defense? In my mind if you are defending yourself from someone you know, someone you may harbor anger towards because that person abused you, then self-defense can be wrapped in passion.

        That’s not fair for Jodi that the law would have her pick one and only one.

55. Me again. I forgot a point I wanted to make in my previous post. The well respected man I told you about got arrested the second year of our relationship. He was charged with several assult on his ex gf and tampering with evidence. It was a locally publicized case. Somehow I ended up taking the blame for his behavior. All of his friends, family, co-workers, all blamed ME for everything. I was called a whore, a trouble making slut, etc. everytime I was out on the town eating, or shopping, I got dirty stares from people. Everywhere I went!! Did he blame me? No. They all assumed because of the man they knew was only one facet. They didn’t know or care to learn how he was behind closed doors. Yet another similarity to Travis. His loyal friend and family will always refuse to see his other side. Now matter how damming the evidence is against him proving Jodi is telling the truth.

    • I know what it’s like to have the sort of no self-esteem personality that attracts sadists. You have my utter and complete sympathy.

      My problems also came from being badly abused inside my family, by my older sister.

      I also understand the “everyone in town believed them and hated me thing”, too–I just had to leave my church of 20 years because of viscious gossip that would make me look like an idiot to try to defend myself from. But luckily I’m Catholic, and there are plenty of other churches to go to.

      Travis was an audacious hypocrite.

    • Lucy, thanks for sharing your story…I hope all the people who question the abuse will read stories like yours.

56. The defense is starting to lay grounds for a nice defense so I guess they did have something up there sleeve. Jodi is very convincing but she has to stop with the ums. I do fear though that the prosecutor is going to take down her credibility somewhat because of the interview.

57. FREE JODI! SHE IS INNOCENT! SHE IS SO NICE AND SEEMS LIKE A N ICE GIRL. The defense is doing an excellent job of beginning to tell the true side of TRAVIS.

58. One more thing…the Media is bashing her to death (aka) Nancy Grace, cant stand her, anyways, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Travis was a MONSTER and she will be aquitted. I feel bad for her history and what she went through.

    • Travis was no prize–he used her, talked about her like she was trash afterwards (he called her a skank right in front of her to a roomate), and then thought she wouldn’t mind that he’d satisfied himself with her body, but didn’t see her as marriage material.

      He makes me sick, and she seems like she’s still trying to come to grips with what happened that day.

      • His double standard regarding women was the one thing I can’t take. I know it’s still fairly common among men to hold this attitude, but it’s still disgusting. Jodi was “his” booty call, yet she treated her like total garbage and acted ashamed of her. He wasn’t any saint but a liar and a user. She wasn’t good enough to be his wife, but she was “good enough” for him to use and abuse her sexually.

        • I meant “he” rather than “she.”

        • I completely agree…Travis= MONSTER!

        • Yes, it’s a sexual double-standard that should have been, and was supposed to have been, erased by 40+ years of sexual liberation, pornography, etc.

          Both men and women have a very hard time respecting women who give themselves over easily for sex, or charge money for sex, and it’s pretty obvbious that all the “liberation” in the world can’t change this fact, because it certainly would have by now.

          Women need to wake up and realize that no amount of “no-committment-needed” sex can guarantee that a man will fall in love with you for it eventually, and continuing to give yourself to someone who does’t truly value you is horrbly self-destructive.

          • I totally agree but seriously, if you like anal sex and want it, wouldnt a woman who is willing to do it be the best person to committ to and marry? I mean if that is something that a man likes why marry someone who wont do that and what…. go cheat eventually? why would you look down on her for giving you what you want? Again the portrayal of the public self is very different than the real self as with most narcissists. Does anyone else see this? but Jodi is being called the narcissist? If anything Jodi is codependent and her identity was confused by a man she desperately wanted to please. She says “I didnt want to dispease him”…. the girl needed to realize sex was not the way to get him. I dont think there was any way to get him and its sad she couldnt see that that was the best thing for her… to NOT HAVE someone like that who discounted her existence in his life but would share a bed with her!

59. Travis was definitely not a gentleman, it was the prosecutions fault for painting him as a saint and now that Travis’s real personality and agenda is coming out they are calling it victim bashing! Cmon, the guy was an asshole who treated women as sexual objects for his own gratification. Did he deserve to die, hell no. I cannot believe the comments I am hearing like this was just a typical guy and by women???!!! I would hope women would not accept this type of treatment from a man? Although I do see where Jodi is coming from and how she would be lured into his control. This guy was a motivational speaker for a company that is nothing more than a pyramid scam and these type of people are agressive, controlling and master manipulators. I do not think Jodi deserves the death.

    • That’s right–how does telling the truth about HIS character equate with victim bashing??? Her lawyer is just trying to help the jury get a sense of what their realtionship was really like–I can’t stand to see people (usually women) having the attitude that what he was actually like has absolutely no bearing on anything, or the simplistic tendancy to make it all black and white, Jodi=bad, Travis=good.

      And if Travis’s personality is just “par for the course” at this point , then we are ALL in trouble.

      I left a supportive post concernig Jodi on a well known true crime site, and it was not only taken off about 3 hours later, but every written response (I did get some thanks from a few people) was negative, except the one from another woman my age who tried to explain to me that anal sex is now seen as nothing weird, so I should just relax, but the rest were insulting, the worst being one where the poster said I was dangerous because I thought anal sex wasn’t a good thing.

      This is become one sick world.

      • People just need to lookat the entire picture here. Seems to be you have a vulnerable young woman who is dying for love cause she didnt get a good sense of healthy love growing up, attaches herself ot a possibly narcissitc man who really has no emotional connection to her but yet he can entertain that other women are worthy of him in marriage, not Jodi. Why cause she allowed anal sex? please. He wanted it yet he was pure as ever and she is the slut? All the defense is doing is explaining what the hell actually happened to this girl, we all know what happened to Travis. I am a little sick of hearing how fantastic Travis was, the man did not deserve to die for treating a woman like that, he deserved to be dumped. She is guilty but I wouldnt put her to death, would like to see ppl get some insight into this not so blatant type of abuse. L

        • I have also had it occur to me that he didn’t see her as worthy of ultimately being his wife because she let him despoil her in this fashion–so HE’S the one who ruins her, and then he treats her like SHE’S now automatically just a piece garbage afterwards.

          Insane, and not to mention downright nasty and cruel.

          • Yes Irola, how does he engage in anal sex and throw her over the bed and call her a “skank” as such a funny joke and not admit shes anything to him and yet that is fine for him to do but shes not worthy enough to be his trophy wife because of what he is doing? The girl wanted validation and mistakably felt by giving him what he wanted he would be happy and want her. I think Jodi needed help and like I said if you read about narcissism this man behaved in such a way that she was an object, with no emotional attachment and if you read research about it (which I have cause I dated one just like this and I dont condemn Jodi for having anal sex, MOST men like this!) but if you read it is EXTREMELY hard to detach from these people. It is cruel and void of emotion. I just wonder if self defense is the right strategy here and helps temporary insanity is more appropriate? I do not think Jodi is insane. It disturbs me that Nancy G. thinks none of what the defense is putting forward is relevant… Her show depicts that Travis was a successful fantasic wonderful gentle man and she is a monster. Its not objective. Its also not uncommon for narcissists to treat every other woman wonderfully and yet zero in on someone they feel is weak and they disrespect. I think he thought he was entitled to treat her that way. (believe me I have dated this type and thankfully read and read and read about narcissism til I realized what I was dealing with and got away. It was a horrid three years of my life to date that man and I myself went to his house ot confront him.) He didnt deserve to die like I said but be kicked to the curb. Feel bad for Jodi that she didnt get help to see she was worthy of a man who would treat her right. The media needs to acknowledge it is relevant to portray the nature of the dynamics of what has occurred here.

60. Jodi Arias is NOT innocent. She admitted she killed TA. However, I feel sorry for her not having a close friend to talk to about TA. That friend could have helped her to get away from him. Hopefully she will get life and continue her education, selling her art and making a movie. Most of all I hope she gets closer to God.

    • Jodi is INNOCENT. and she will be aquitted. Look at what she went through her whole life. She had to protect her self from that MONSTER.

      • I hope you’re right about her being aquitted–in my opinion she’s served enough time already for this.

        • She most definitely has a case against this man. No one should be treated this way for offering such wonderful gifts like he did and then tell her to get lost. No one deserves to be lead down a road of such exclusive lifestyle and then be dumped.

          • She’s been a prisoner since the unlucky day she met that Mormon/moron pedo at the Rainforest Cafe in Vegas. She is a tragic but unbroken victim of trauma based/Project Monarch-ish mind control. It would be an absolute Travisty if she were not acquitted. She took a pedophile/serial abuser, whose aberrant behavior was relentlessly escalating, out of the game; I say that makes her a hero not a villain. She’s a noble woman. The noble shall rise above, always. Freedom is nigh for Jodi. Mark my words.

    • It is too bad that she didn’t have a good friend to talk it out with (but she probably had plenty of FB friends like most people her age–but what good is that in a situation like this), and I too hope she gets closer to God, just like 99.9 percent of us need to.

      • she did have a friend w/ that Udy lady from Utah that she was confiding with right ?

      • She was in love with him. She would not have wanted anyone to know what really went on in their relationship and would therefore not have discussed it. Even now, when testifying, she doesn’t want anyone to think badly of him.

61. In hindsight of what we know now what is your opinions on the oral sex and anal sex vs the Mormon believe, vs. her accusation of his alleged interest in young boys ? Also, was there young boys in the Mormon church in the area that he attended that he would have come in contact with that she may have witnessed as well ? TIA. Input is appreciated.

62. That guy used her, treated her like crap, was arrogant and full of himself…….he was a huckster selling snake oil and a pyramid scheme, with tacky pinstriped suits…having said that, he did not deserve to be killed…..She was driven mad by a goof who wasnt even interested in her…..she had the unfortunate luck to get hung up on a loser, I feel bad for her she let him get the best of her and for some reason she snapped.

    How many of us girls have met idiots like that in our lives?? Lots of men do that to women on a regular business and if we retaliate we are called pshycho. jodi actually did to TA what lots of us fantasized about, im sure loads of women out there know what im talking about……

    Murder is wrong, he did not deserve that fate , but either did she deserve the treatment she got from him… all i can say is buyer beware, men who mistreat women should take notice and maybe change their behaviour towards girls because if anything this case shows how badly it can effect a womans mind and emotions.

63. Emotional abuse is at least as damaging as physical abuse. One plays on the body; the other plays on the mind.
    When you are the kind of person who would inflict that kind of abuse on another human being..calling them names like 3 hole wonder, pornstar, and skank… especially when that was a person who cared so much for you
    Well…let’s just say Karma is real. In this case, your black, evil Karma took your life.
    Can’t say a person like you will be missed.

64. I had not previously heard of this 2008 case. (By the way: why did it take this long for the trial to begin?)

    Like Travis Alexander, my ex-boyfriend is also a pseudo religious man now in his 50s with a troubled past. He is a sex addict who enjoys “kinky” (i.e. non-vanilla) sex. He was sexually abused as a young boy by an uncle, has a very complex love-hate relationship with his mother, lost his father a decade ago. He sought out religion in an attempt to escape his demons but it made it worse. In the mid-90s at his house of worship, he found a woman a couple of years younger than himself who is masochistic and whom he dated off and on for almost two decades. He never intended to marry or or have kids. He cheated on her repeatedly with other women, most of whom did not know he had a girlfriend. He had sex with prostitutes. He is a porn addict. He now has a serious STD and has knowingly infected other women. Last year he entered a sham marriage to a woman two decades his junior who needs a Green Card to be able to remain in the U.S. He gets sex, she gets her Green Card. She is a masochist like his ex-girlfriend, has no money, no family in this country, no skills. They met at their house of worship: this is also where he met his ex-wife back in the 80s: he cheated on her too and they had a S/M relationship. His self-esteem is very low, he hates himself, his mother, his step-father, women. He resents his dependence on women for sex and love and punish them for it by withholding affection, taunting them, cheating on them. In 2005, he had sex with a virgin 30 years younger, a young confused woman he met by chance. His ex-girlfriend is now in her early 50s, alone, no husband, no kids, no boyfriend, lives a few miles from him, knows about his sham marriage. How she keeps from murdering him is a mystery to me. I applaud Jodi for going after the cheating, abusive, SOB boyfriend instead of a female romantic/sexual rival like the L.A. cop Stephanie Lazarus did when she murdered her ex-boyfriend’s wife Sherri Rasmussen. Don’t kill the rival, kill the SOB who hurt you if you ARE going to kill someone. But better yet, don’t kill anyone: expose him, tell the world what he did, shame him, make him lose his job, his rep, everything. That’s the best revenge. No scumbag is worth going to death row for.

65. I beliieve Travis’ family may very well be hiding that they were sexually abused as kids, or just Travis perhaps. Did the defense look intoo this? Travis is perfect textbook case of the two-faced person: the psuedo religious man with a secret life of kink and physical and emotional abuse. His eyes are cold, he looks like a psychopath in most photos.

    I wish Jodi had not killed him, but she did and she will most likely pay for it with her own life. No douchebag is worth that, but at least she went after him and not one of his other sexual liasons.

66. I find Jodi’s mousy appearance in court indicative of gross sexism and the madonna/whore issue: before, she was a very attractive, charismatic, sexual woman. Now, she is made to look “non-threatening” with dowdy clothes, glasses and dull hair. (rape vicltims are told they were raped because they wore “provocative” clothes, pinning the blame on them instead of the rapist.)

    Americans are brought up to think that sex is “dirty” and many people are never able to let go of that feeling of shame. Many are sexually abused which adds to their shame. Men look at women as either the whore or the madonna. Girls and women are “bad” if they have sex, and “good” if they don’t. Men are studs, players, tom cats, sowing their wild oats. The double standard must end. The “sex is dirty” mindset must end. Religion messes with peoples’ heads. Millions will continue to be abused, to feel shame, to abuse others or be abused.

67. I just wanted to say that I have been watching and following this trial since it has started and just wanted to say that Jodi I believe .you and I hope that the jury will believe you it must be so hard for you.just re live what had happened to you, you aphre one very strong women . Hang in there I am pulling for you stay positive and think good thoughts

68. When are they going to release real evidence?? She has to have something to back her up!!! I feel in my gut that something def wasn’t right with him and he def abused her but the jury isn’t going to “take her word”. The defense has to have some kind of physical evidence!!! Please tell me they do!!!

    • Ann, I really dont know what furthur evidence the defense has. I believe the fact that the prosecution will have a hard time disproving Jodi’s testimony will be enough for reasonable doubt. The fact that Jodi lied twice before can easily be explained by the defense. It is very common for people to make up stories because people are afraid and they do not trust the police. I would lie too. It isn’t a matter of morals, it is a reaction to fear. Jodi has been living in a state of fear for several years. I hope the fear is over soon and that Jodi will walk out of that courtroom a free person.

69. During the Kaycee trial, a person in the courtroom flipped off the prosecutor and was charged with contempt of court. The actions could have led to a mis-trial and could have influenced the jury. The judge was quick to put a stop to it.

    Similarly, Travis’s sister is in the courtroom, smirking and rolling her eyes while Jodi is testifying. That behavior could also influence the jury and should not be allowed in the courtroom. If a member of the jury sees the sister roll her eyes after an answer is given, it sends a non-verbal message to the jury that the answer was a lie. This should not be allowed to continue. Nobody should get away with using non-verbal communication in the court room in an attempt to influence the jury. Like I said before, the sister is a cop and police are trained not to believe anything. They use deception and force to get what they want. They think they know everything and they think that they are above the law. That is the police mentality. Those deceptive eye rolls and facial expressions need to be silenced in order for Jodi to have a fair trial.

    Travis’s sister should be charged with contempt of court and removed.

    I am still praying for Jodi to walk free.

70. sj

    email me if i can help at all with this website!!!!!!!!!

    casey, oj, etc…. i have watched every trial and thank god for ppl like you

    and do anyone who might be weary…. look at the amount of comments from blog postings..

    5 mayb 7 comments to hundreds…. and you have to search to find this site!

    i would love to help start something wr ppl could blog during the HLN “lets make money off the tradegies n condem the accused” shows like nancy uglyface……..

    IF THE GLOVE DONT FIT, U MUST ACQUIT

71. Let’s all pray for Jodi!!

72. Although the subject matter is not one that brings me any kind of joy, it is indeed a pleasure to come to this site and to read intelligent and fair comments, unlike the frenzied and vitriolic lynch mob posts on YouTube, Facebook, etc.

    • I agree. I ignore all of the Nancy G horescrap too. The media always takes a position against a defendant and places labels on them like “Mormon version of Kaycee” etc… I think that the media should not be allowed to cover anything but the facts of the trial until after it is over. Then they can say whatever they want. I would like to remind everyone that Kaycee was found not guilty and should be afforded the same freedom and privacy that any citizen of this country enjoys. Likewise, Jodi is innocent and the media should not have the right to smear her name while she is on trial for her life.

73. At this point I want to thank God for the freedom of opinion…

    I turned on this trial believing that Jodi Arias was guilty, plain & simple, of a heinous murder, that she clearly committed.
    I also pride myself on having an open mind, not letting emotions get the best of me, and seeing 2 sides to every story. I think the world is full of individuals who will never open their eyes to the “evils” of the world, so they walk around blind & ticked off about it. I will never be one of those, & often question many things that are “fed” to me. That being said~

    I have gotten past the ‘Travis was a spiritual perfection of a man, and Jodi was a she devil in disguise’ motive. Delving into the past of Travis, as much as Jodi, leads one down some rather dark & scarey paths. Travis was a man that was full of hurt & pain from a rather dreadful past. That has not seem to come to the surface. Travis also comes off as having some real issues with women, starting with Mommy. Jodi, on the other hand, comes of as a “love struck hottie” who was trying to find a suitable man to create a life with. She may have been very sexual in her past, but that does not make a KILLER.

    I see a couple who met, liked each other alot, one fell in love, & one didnt. But the one that didnt sure liked the benefits he got from the one that did. Of course Travis not being honest, & using Jodi for was going to hurt her. It would hurt anyone, especially if you were doing things that you really did NOT WANT to do, but did for the one you LOVES pleasure. This went on for MONTHS, as Jodi believed she was becoming special to Travis, & he,on the other hand was planning a different life that did NOT include her, while leading her in a complete opposite direction.

    Then, Travis, not really ever dealing with his childhood issues, had an explosion. After a day full of Travis’ sexual desires filled, Jodi began questioning him as to why he has been leading her on, as she finally had proof to it all. I think he had beat her a few times before, & she let it go, but now she threatend him with the CHURCH & now had pictuures & phone recordings to prove it. & I think Jodi DID fear for her life that day. I think her actions were extreme, yes, but I think his actions were extreme as well.

    I think a whole lot more went on behind those doors then anyone is willing to open their eyes to. And I dont think Jodi should pay with her life being taken. Maybe the jury will feel the same. Not putting my emotions into the mix, but being allowed more information then the jury really gives me no idea how they will rule. I just hope Jodi receives forgiveness from God, and that God protects her thru whatever punishment she gets. And I wish peace for Travis’ soul, as well as his family.

    The only thing similar between this case, OJs, or Caseys (& I believe differently on all 3), is that despite the outcome, NO ONE WON…

74. Jodi expresses so much of what I have felt in dating a narcissistic man. The portray a public image that is VERY different than the private self. The abuse is not blatant but toxic, you are put on a pedestal, treated wonderful but then devalued, put down and dumped, and the cycle repeats. This is exactly what Jodi is describing when she talks of how she loved it when TA was nice and dreaded his being mean. She makes comment of knowing that “Hyde” would come out eventually and that is exactly what I felt, that the man I was with was a total Jekyl and Hyde and no one else could see it but he would actually “smirk” if he riled me when he was in Hyde mode. He lied, cheated, put down, degraded, then at times praised and made you feel like the most wonderful woman ever. and of course say himself as the most successful weatlhy desireabl man and made sure to have lots of women around him. The emotion was not ever real for more than a couple days and you were used over and over an over and then discarded …. even to the point of how TA denied Jodi’s existance. I myself felt like used toilet paper as well (thought that exact thing), called him Jekyl and Hyde and yes even went to his home to confront him myself! and the reason this happens is because the woman can nof for the life of her understand how she can be so wonderful and praised and then thrown out like garbage… you are constantly always trying to make sense of it. The mind can not even process what the person is doing. Having a higher degree is Psych (yeh and still this was happening) I realized something was wrong and I started reading and looking up his behaviors. I realized this through feeling some of the same emotions as Jodi, the “shaking” she describes when he would get angry… Im sure she felt it in her stomach almost like her organs shaking. I would say to myself, “something is really wrong that someone is affecting me like this”. As time goes on the physical abuse will come eventually… Once I was grabbed so hard on my arm in a restaurant that I was bruised because I didnt follow him immediately to the table. There were not brusies and black eyes… the abuse is of a different nature yet extremely toxic and the course of this is that ultimately you wll be physically abused and then it will your fault as when I would confont him on his lies he would tell me I was psycho because I would get upset and raise my voice. I ended up talking to the woman he cheated on with me for 3 years, and the similariies in what she experienced were uncanny. I thinks he saw it too and realized, hope she did but now I dont care. I realized I was dealing with a very sick person and the only way out was to stop contact and that is what I did, there was no way to a decent healthy relationship. Jodi seems to have had some what of some codependent traits and perhaps borderline traits, borderline does not equal psycho and most are at more danger of hurting themselves. No one can really understand what this does until you experience it… the masses are and HLN shows which seem to be only run by prosecuters clearly did not take a lot of psych courses. Im not saying TA deserved what happened, but this type of abuse is very very real. Everyone asks Why did she go back? why did she stay? why didnt she say no? They bash Jodi and really have no educational foundation in this to pompously state all this. Theres a doctor Sam Vaknin who wrote a book on malignant narcissism. He has many many YouTube.com videos on Narcissism and if you listen to them it might give the masses some insight into this. He helped me a great deal in just listening and described my ex to a tee…I listend to every single video he has on there and in doing so got a clear picture that I needed to just go. I loved him but he was not what I believed him to be, it was a facade, Hyde was real. I feel bad for Travis’s family and for Jodi. I am sure TA was not like this to others or his family at all and they knew a different man. Had I known her Id have tried to show her the best thing was to disappear from TA’s life. Sick of hearing how she is horrible, its a tradgedy what happened .. Sympathies are with TA’s family AS WELL AS JODI. Just hope she knows….People see it Jodi. Will pray for you as well.

75. I am so sick of all the tv attorneys and tv personalities who are normally advocates of battered and abused women who are jumping on the crucify Jodi bandwagon. There is enough evidence for them to crucify her, they do not need to add more fuel to the fire. If Jodi had not killed Travis but was just going for counseling, they would all be in her corner and claiming Travis was an abuser.

76. I am a Canadian who started watching this trial about midway with a pre-conceived notion that Jodi was 100% guilty as charged (regrettably, I am a Nancy Grace fan). I then went back and watched the trial footage from the beginning. I have always believed that there are three sides to every story: in this case Jodi’s, Travis’, and what really happened. Unfortunately, Travis’ story is being told from the point of view of a grand standing, Joe pesci wannabe who wants to see nothing less than Jodi’s blood spill.

    After weighing all the facts that have been presented thus far, I have to admit that there HAD to have been something very traumatic happen to Jodi to trigger this outburst that ultimately put an end to TA’s life, and did irreparable damage to the lives of Jodi and so many others. Is it possible for a soft spoken, kind hearted, caring, God-fearing, gifted, and beautiful young woman with no criminal record or history of violence to suddenly “snap” and shoot, mutilate, and decapitate a person that she genuinely loved because she was….jealous?? Perhaps. However, common sense tells me this was not a case where Jodi felt her whole world was going to fall apart because her on again-off again lover, who paid little attention to her when she was not in the sack, bent over his desk, or on her knees, didn’t want to be with her anymore.

    Jodi was used to not being around him for periods of time. She dated others. She is self-sufficient and ambitious. She is way more gorgeous than he was handsome, and could easily find someone to treat her the way she deserves to be treated. Something very terrible had to have happened to this young woman for her to react in such a violent manner. It would make more sense to me if the evidence had shown additional footprints, fingerprints, or DNA at the crime scene. I would have then assumed that she had told a close friend or family member about the abuse, and this person had went there to confront TA and a fight ensued. However, the facts are the facts. Jodi is not covering for anybody. She did this alone.

    So, in my sympathy and empathy I’ve gone from being 100% sure of Jodi’s guilt to including her in my nightly prayers. I pray that she may feel a moment of peace. I pray that all family members on both sides can begin to forgive and heal. I pray that she gets a fair trial. I pray that she is not judged to harshly, and that her time served represents her ultimate punishment. Most of all, I pray that Jodi may one day soon live a normal, productive life full of love, hope, and happiness.

    God bless you Jodi and good luck!

    • The thing is that these people that come out on tv (so called experts) to give their own opinion, are only looking for fame. Just to be on national tv they are capable of selling their own soul to the devil. They are not looking for justice, or to help others, what they’re looking for is for their names to be known, but what they don’t know is that one they when they dye they have to give account to God for all the things, good or bad they have done here on earth, and for their surprise, they all gonna be standing in trial as well as Jodi, before the supreme judge which is God. I pray for them to repent for all the things that they have said about this poor girl Jodi. May the Lord have mercy on her and help her in this hard times.

77. How sick and disgusting TRAVIS was!!!!! All these people did not believe for a second he was one sick puppy! But jodi was smart to tape his PERVERTED. Child molesting ass!!! How can anyone gloss over the fact we hear him saying U LOOK LIKE a 12 year old girl ! Fkn pedifile! U can tell in the taped conversation jodi is acting ! She really wasn’t down with all that sick behavior even tho she did it I don’t think she was comfortable. There fore to me the girl is innocent, she even made him repeat what did u say , when he said about the 12 year old girl!!!! How sick and perverted! Jodi DID all woman a favor! FUCK U TRAVIS U SICK CHILD MOLESTER !!

    • Word.

      F his room temperature I.Q.’d Mormon Mafia cronies that covered up his appalling crimes and tried to intimidate Jodi’s witnesses, friends and family too! Let’s hope they don’t get to the jury. Anything less than an exoneration for Jodi would be a gross miscarriage of justice.

78. Last Star …

    Star light.. Star bright,
    last star i see…

    As the night prepares for sleep,
    their concert begins,
    one song.. two songs.. three,
    in unison their sweet harmony calls forth,
    chorus of birds welcoming the new day.

    Star light.. Star bright,
    last star i see…

    Caught up in the beauty,
    their melody fills me,
    in this hour between times,
    Peace.. Hope.. Magic,
    i am one with myself.. one with everything,
    and i feel you.

    Star light Star bright,
    last star i see…

    Gazing upwards into the wakening sky,
    i see you,
    last remnant of the night, shining so brightly,
    you’ve waited for me.. once again my friend,
    ready to give of yourself,
    to give all.. so my dreams can be.

    Star light.. Star bright,
    last star i see…

    With closed eyes,
    and open heart,
    a soul aflame once more,
    a spirit’s wish ushers forth,
    into the heavens,
    into your waiting arms.

    Star light.. Star bright,
    last star i see…

    And, as if your only purpose, was to wait,
    all night.. just to receive my wish,
    your brightness fades making way for the dawn,
    and new beginnings,
    and in that instant.. you are gone,
    but your promise remains.. i can feel it.

    Can you?

    Star light Star bright,
    last star i see…
    I wish i may.. i wish i might…

    Always look up into the wakening sky …
    As your Last Star will always be there for you.

    Forever and Always …
    Believe!

79. Wow! I am so relieved to have found this page. Unfortunately after going back and forth between two FB pages for the last few days, I’m to mentally exhausted to write all the things I want to and to respond to so many of the excellent comments here. I’ve wasted so much energy on those pages…ugh! I see comments here about all of the hatred on FB, it’s so true, it’s awful. I have commented multiple times, just because I want to scream at people for being so stupid, hateful and ignorant, and now that I found this page I feel like I can discuss this with reasonable and intelligent people as opposed to battling the insanity on FB. Thank you!

80. I found your website and I find it very interesting…I love reading the factual details that you and others have provided…I dislike watching Nancy Grace, Dr. Drew, Jane Velez-Mitchell, Vinnie Politan, and a few others….They all have become the biggest joke that the American television viewing audience has ever seen… with all of their disgusting comments that they make toward people…They are very opinionated about many people…they see it only their way and no way…and they are quick to verbally crucify people and literally electrocute people with their spoken words before that person ever gets a fair trial…They all seemed obsessed to make Casey Anthony the most hated woman in the world…and now I can see that they are traveling down that same road to make Jodi Arias the second most hated woman in the world…and all because they have the power to spread distortions of the truth with the power of their spoken words through the news media on the television that we all are watching day in and day out…

    I know it is all about television ratings…high ratings put more money in their pockets…and in order to keep the high ratings in this competitive news market they have to sensationalize the news in order to capture our attention to watch their 30 minute or hour long segments…

    I hope when the day comes that each one of them have to kneel down before God that he will give them the same treatment that each one of them gave to others…and I do believe in “what goes around comes around”…so I would not be a bit surprised to see one day that they all become the “most hated news people in the world”…

81. Speaking of stars, I wish there was a little star beside the new posts on this site. There is so much traffic and so many new posts that sometimes it is hard to find the newest additions. Team Jodi – join the club, it’s a rather large fraternity!

    • The only way I have found to cope with the traffic on the site is to look at each page and do a search for my name…then I can see if anyone has replied so I can reply and not look like I am ignoring anyone….

      But, that is even hard to keep up with now…

      Seems like it got busier after the tape was played. I think many people just refused to believe that Jodi and Travis had sex until it smacked them in the face. Travestites were convinced jodi lied about that too.

82. All the Jodi hater TV shows are playing the sex tape and sex talk over and over and over. They are not airing anything else that has to do with this case and the circumstances surrounding the events. They have proven that they are using Jodi for ratings, what they are doing has NOTHING to do with justice and the truth.

83. How’s about the fact that no one is talking about the vicious txt messages he sent her and the fact that he said she sounded like a 12 yr old girl….no one is talking about that and I’m sorry but sirens went off in my head w that one. My guy and I like to get a lit crazy but he wld never ever say that to me…even if I begged him!!! That wld totally turn him off!!! That is 100% a sign of some sort or pedophilia…i get wearing a lit school girl outfit and pig tails, but what he said….wtf!!!! And he was totally into it, like very natural and went there in his mind, often!!! Jodi did not elaborate and get into that 12 yr old character at all….she was more or less like WHAT??? And just kept on stroking his ego, only bc she was grasping for anything to get him back!!! U cld def tell in that phone convo that she was going above and beyond to please him….it made my stomach crawl bc she sounded like a little puppy dog just trying to keep his attention….in my opinion…I think when he was taking a shower and she was taking pics she made a comment something along the lines as “I cld so blackmail you with these pics” and he flipped and attacked her…she prob had a gun w her in her pocket book bc uhhhhmmmmm hellooooo she drove by her self across desolate roads in the middle of the night…i wld def take a gun….and not for nothing, if she planned to kill him she was there for over 12 hrs, she cld have easily shot him while he slept….the stabbing, prob came after gun shot….they say that the gun shot hit a vital part of the brain but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t moving etc so she prob freaked thinking he was still alive and went nuts w the stabbing and overkill…..she did not plan that murder, if she did she wld have cleaned up the crime seen better….by the way she left things, she totally wasn’t in the right sate of mind…..they are both responsible for creating such a volatile relationship, but I think he def attacked her….his personally clearly shows he was capable, his background was very unstable and abusive, and HE HAD EVERYTHING to loose if she exposed his deviant side….ya sure, the church wld have tried to help him and stood by his side, but he wld never be viewed in the same way again…he was a high level Mormon whose entire life was based on that position…..def wld flip out if he felt she was threatening that!!!

84. Thumbs up for Jodi! She is innocent!

85. i’m not really a “jodi supporter” necessarily… i mean i’m not a family member or friend of hers. but i did create a positive youtube video related to her. i just think she’s a very composed, well spoken, intelligent young woman.

    http://youtu.be/axLFPDq9f08

86. I think this is what Jodi saw when she walked into Travis office and saw him watching a video on youtube.. she mentioned people with box on heir head.. The song Bad Romance fit Travis to the T!!!

87. I am neutral, so my post will probably be deleted. That being said, I question how Jodi can be innocent when she has admitted to killing Travis. Not a trick question by any means, just trying to understand what this site is trying to do. I do believe Travis used Jodi, I acknowledge that. Do you feel she snapped because he was just using her with no intention of a future together? Forgive me, as I said, just trying to make sense of a horrible death. I do think she has done well on the stand. I’m not so sure she will do as well with the prosecution.

    • If Jodi truly did this in self defense of her life I think the law would indicate that is an innocent act. That a person has a right to defend their life. Having said that I have posted that I dont think many others understand the nature of having a relationship with a possibly narcissistie person. The foundation of the relationshp was not healthy, Travis didnt seem healthy and Jodi also by the constant need for his approval and validation. Im not insulting Travis or Jodi, people find themselves in situations that create more and more dysfunction and sex as well as the need to be loved and attraction is very powerful. I have questioned if self defense is the correct defense for Jodi. In hearing things today, and her vague recollection of things I continue to be concerned with the choosen defense. I dont see Jodi as a monster but more as a woman who was very manipulated and yes quite abused…. but the actual crime I think is what matters and I dont know why she just did not run out of his house, run to a neighbor, or how the crime became so intense with so many stab wounds etc. I think it is very plausible that someone with a good memory would turn that off and not be able to recall those moments as it is extremely traumatic. Also I can see how Jodi’s state of mind is applicable but Still and I may not be posted for this, I question the choosen defense and cant help but have thoughts that this was temporary insanity from being very scared of a man who used her and didnt care about her. Im not a lawyer but I think the jury has to go on the defense presented… self defense, not another one that one might entertain or would be more applicable. Maybe im wrong and things are not done in terms of hearing the how and why…A very sad case and we dont know the intelligence of the jury or their backgrounds and how they are going to think about things… personally I think the woman was driven to think her life was in danger but … one does wonder why after injuring someone you wouldnt flee and how that moment continued to ultimately be what happened to him. I dont think any person with intelligence and compassion would not have some for both parties.

      • When ur getting attacked like that your flight or fight response kicks in and you make quick decisions, based on basic survival. she knew he was right behind her and she had a better chance making it to the closet then running down the hall, down the stairs, out the front door and to a neighbors….the stab wounds are what you call overkill…..if she was truly afraid for her life like she said, it makes complete sense bc you wouldn’t be able to stop due to intense fear…..Iets just say if I were in that position wld make sure the person was dead and wasn’t getting up….personally, I believe something happened bc she had 15hrs to kill him….she cld have easily shot him in his sleep, cleaned anything that proved she was there, and walked out!!! Plus, why the hell wld she decide to do it at 5 oclk at night, ppl coming home from work…ppl ould very esily see her leave his house!!, she’s not a stupid girl…..if she premeditated this, things would have went down very differently!! You can even tell that her “clean up” was done in the state of shock….there was nothing methodical about it….

    • She is innocent of premeditated murder.

      • Didn’t she take a gun to his place? (Asking…not stating)

        • She says she did not, and there is no proof that she did. Her grandparents’ gun has never been found. She testified that when Travis came after her and threatened to kill her, she took his gun out of his closet to protect herself.

          • Has the defense presented any witness’ i.e., friends of Travis’, registration, to show he owned a gun? Also, as “macho” as Travis acted a .25 caliber seems kind of whimpy

    • @ Jacqueline

      Many many issues between them…but I fear that simple honesty (at near the end) was part of the problem.

      Speaking from my own experience: some time before I met my amazing, radiant, intelligent wife of 11years there were two ladies (one I dated for about 2 months, the other I saw twice)….both these individuals stalked me! The first showed up here two weeks after I broke up with her (done nicely, simply not a good long term fit) when she showed up we talked, but i told her i was not planning to get involved….very clearly…she asked to say the night and then went nuts damaging my property, etc. when we were not dating again all of a sudden…..restraining order!! If she had told me that her end game was to pick things up and that was the only option we would have had no issues. The other one was an even stranger experience but only after seeing her twice….the restraint order was easy because she was actually threatening me after I said I didn’t think it was right.

      Nothing wrong with a friends with benifits type thing if that’s ok with both parties. However it seems that Jodi (if you read her diary entries) really wanted to be with him….? IF that is the case then it was a broken heart just waiting to get shattered.

      All that said….if any guy who hits a woman….for A.N.Y. Reason is garbage.
      Austin

88. Jodi,I believe in you. I truly believe you a victim of domestic violence.travis used you.the dirty and not good for marriage.just some on the side.I hope things work out for you. Bless your heart.I would like to hear from you.I can imagine how hard it is for you in prison.Susan Dondo

89. Just a couple of final thoughts of the evening regarding the trial. The prosecution might try to discredit Jodi’s testimony because she did not remember much of the detail of the stabbings. This is easily explained by looking at memory models that have been well studied by psychologists. There are phases of memory; encoding, storage and retreival.The events leading up to the point where Travis attacked Jodi are easy for Jodi to recall because the information was encoded in an environment that was escalating but not at the point where Jodi’s biochemical storage was impaired. So, the retreival process is easy and the memory is very clear. After the events escalated to a point where Jodi feared for her life, the encoding phase was hindered sheerly due to the large volume of information being presented to the brain. Likewise, the flood of information was so great that the chemical storage process was also hindered because of the short time frame and the release of several excitatory neurotransmitters such as dopamine, epinephrine and norepinephrine. Coupled with this are processes such as memory transfer and transience which have several factors that explain how someome “forgets” Chronic stress and acute stress both play roles in memory failure. I am not a psychologist but I think that the defense needs to add an expert witness that can address this issue. Many of us forget things that happened just hours ago. Jodi was expected to remember things that happened 5 years ago. Then there is a process known as retroactive interference where new things we learn interfere with past memory. There is a lot of science to support Jodi’s lack of memory and the defense needs to get a psychologist on board that can explain it to the jury.

    Another thought that came out during the testimony is that Jodi stated that she did not understand that she could have said nothing rather than to make up a story for the police. We a person is interrogated, they get their Miranda rights read to them. The Miranda is somewhat deceptive in that people think that once they start talking to police, that they can not stop at a point anywhere along the way. The language seems plain but the legal implications require some deep thought. Often people are expected to make a split second decision whether or not to talk to the police without having adequate time to consider these implications. If Jodi did not comprehend the scope of her right to remain silent, then she was not “imformed” properly. This could be a basis for mistrial or for appeal, although it would likely be hard to prove.

    I believe that an expert witness on the memory loss could be sufficient to offset any attack from the prosecution regarding the forgotten events.

90. When I was watching yesterday, the trial went to a commercial and I missed the part where they said when or where Napoleon, the dog, was found. And your tape for that comment right after lunch is also cut off….could someone tell me where Napoleon was.

91. Is this new? (ABC news site)

    “Instead of a fight, Alexander, who was 27 and a devout Mormon, and Arias decide to go upstairs and take more nude photos of one another. Arias said she hoped the photos would satisfy Alexander over his frustration with the scratched CD.Evidence introduced earlier in the trial show that Alexander was killed while Arias was photographing Alexander in the shower.”

    Is that part about where he was correct? (How unhinged do you have to be to loose you sh!t over a CD?
    Austin

    • Sorry…what I meant is….is that known to be correct?

    • No…..They found large pools of blood in the hallway by the door that leads to the outside of his bedroom….and also some blood in the bathroom….She says the fight started in the bathroom and she got away and ran from him down the hallway towards the door that leads outside his bedroom then decided to run into the closet for the gun(closet door in his bedroom was halfway down that hallway). She most likely went for the gun bc she realized she would never make it down the stairs to the front door. From the closet, she said she ran back into the bathroom(theres a door that leads to bathroom inside the closet) where he follwed her in….she says she shot him there but she didnt know where she shot him, however, he continued to attack her…now they are saying that the head wound wld have imbolized him, but that isnt completly true….I worked in an ER and people who were shot in the head, especially frontal lobe, where still able to move there arms, legs, talk etc….and died 30 min later..she says after she shot him and they began to struggle again, she blacked out….which is def very plausable….the brain shuts down during overload of events/truama….very common!!!! I believe she was able to escape him again, grabbed the knife that was on the bathroom conter(she prob coundnt see where the gun was), ran out of bathroom down the hallway, and he grabbed her by the door and thats where she stabbed him, hence why there were pools of blood in that area….that was where she killed him, not in the bathroom!!!!

      • I am not sure if my comments are being posted but I am trying to get answerrs. Do you think that the following could have occurred in less than 2 minutes (I believe it is 1 min 46 sec).
        Jodi drops camera; Travis yells and comes out of the shower; Travis runs after Jodi, picks her up and body slams her; Jodi rolls over, gets up and runs down the hall into the closet and shuts the door; she thinks for a moment and decides to get a gun that is on a shelf much higher than her; Travis opens the door and they run back into the bathroom; as he goes to tackle her, she fires the gun; the struggle continues and somehow she gets a knife and the killing continues which includes 28 stabbings and slitting his throat; then Jodi drags his body as shown in a picture towards the shower. So in summary, Travis is alive and then dead and being drug to the shower all within 2 minutes and Jodi is not injured or bruised at all. Can someone tell me if this makes sense? I would like to be on he fense with this but the actual evidence (not all the drama between defense attorney and DA) tells me otherwise.

92. This is all this guy has? I don’t see where he is discrediting anything playing up the braids or candies.

93. @ Jeff.

    Not trying to discredit anything. Simply trying to better understand.

    In regard to asking if the ABC comments are fact: I’m wondering why she just didn’t leave on that “last” day. If he was having a shower, and he had calmed down after s@x (her statements) why not go? Or at the very least suggest going out for food and drive to Utah as fast as she could. I’m trying to understand why there was no way out that day.

    Unfortunately too many of the media clips are a little bias….or just nuts. (I never liked Nancy Grace)

    Just trying to understand why there was no way out that day.
    Austin

    • Austin….Jeff wasn’t commenting to you lol he was just making a comment about the prosecutor…..as far as the ABC thing….no, he wasn’t killed in the bathroom…pools of blood were found in the hallway of his bedroom by the door that leads outside his bedroom…..Here’s what most likely happened….she didn’t “leave” bc she was crazy about Travis and made excuses for ALL of his behavior…in fact, she wld basically just push it under the rug…that’s what us girls do when we’re “in love”…. just so you know, there is scientific evidence that proves that women bond to men who traumatized them, and think they “love them” bc we secrete certain hormones that effect our brain chemistry during emotional trauma….in short, these hormones help us bond to our baby during birth lol screwed up, but very true!!! so, when that incident took place w the CD, leaving him, was the last thing on her mind….she lovveedddd him!!!! Its just how our brains work, especially when a women has low self esteem…..She knew he was going away w another girl the next day so her plan was to “rock his world” so he wld think about her the entire trip and hopefully when he got back, they wld rekindle things…..so up to the bedroom they went….now, if she really went there to kill him, like prosecution is saying, she cld have very easily done it while he was sleeping. It wld have been much cleaner, with less evidence and less chance for him to defend himself….so premeditation is OUT….the question is, what happened to make her do that?? I believe, he def attacked her in the bathroom like she said…..she ran out of the bathroom, down the bedroom hallway, and decided in a quick instant to go into the closet for the gun bc she felt she wld have never made it down the stairs and out the front door…of it were me, and I knew he was right behind me….I wld have went for the closet door and the gun….from there she said she grabbed the gun and ran back into the bathroom through a doorway that connected the closet and bathroom, bc he was coming through the other door(that lead from hallway to closet)…she says from there he grabbed her again, as she was pointing the gun and the gun went off, but she didn’t know she shot him bc he was still moving and attacking her….now, prosecution is trying to say he wld have been dead from that gun shot to the head, but not true!!! I worked in an ER in Neward NJ and experienced many gun shots to the head….some ppl came into the ER still talking and moving after being shot in the head 20-30 min before….most of them died shortly after, but they were aware and still kicking, especially frontal lobe injuries!!!!….anyway, she says she blacked out a few seconds after shot and doesn’t remember anything…..which is very plausible bc the brain shuts down when overloaded with too much stimuli…from there, I believe she was able to get away from him in the bathroom again, grabbed the knife that was on the counter bc she couldn’t find the gun(prob went flying somewhere in there) ran back through the closet door, back into closet, went thro other door that led to his bedroom hallway….he grabbed her again, and she started stabbing and stabbing and stabbing bc she was in shock and thought he was going to kill her….he died, in that hallway where all the pooled blood was….from there, she tried to clean it up etc….and she was 100% in shock at that point bc her clean up in that house was very poor to say the least…she left tons of evidence…she def “wasn’t thinking”….

94. The attorney said today what right did Jodi have.to go over there when.they were broking up and not together well butthead sometimes people do.remain. after they break up ask my wife now of19 years . He has nothing on you Jodsi you were great today she already stated she r would Norway anything bad about Travis maybe that’s why she did not write his masturbation in the journal fearing that somebody would read it and that’s why she did not write about her finger because she would deal with it herself hang in there Jodi

    • Frank…ur tottally right!!! Im 32 & have been keeping journels since I was a kid and lets just say as I got older, I def omitted certain things, especially w room mates, parents, boyfriends lerking around lol in fact, ii wld get confused when i looked back at my entries bc things happened that disnt reflect what i wrote lol journels are meant to be “our dream life” sometimes and we just rather pretend in them!!! also, abused women DO NOT admit the abuse to anyone, especially them selvs….they simply ignore it like nothing hapened….there is evidence that provs she did that, especially w the txt messages…he wld verbally abuse her and she wld still try to please him!! In short, they brought out the worst in each other and I truly believe if she never met Travis, she wld have never killed anyone!!! She was in a relationship for four yrs and he testified that she never displayed any kind of volitile or crazzzyy behavior…if ur crazy, or have jeoulous tendencies…u cant hid it for four yrs lol He wld have said something!!!

95. The whole play on the journal has absolutely no weight. I kept a journal for awhile years ago. People who keep journals have varying levels of intimacy with their journals. Personally, I would never write anything in my journal that was too close to my heart. There are secrets that I have that I would never put to pen just for the sheer risk that someone would find it and read my most intimate thoughts. When my marriage was struggling and there were a lot of emotional issues going on, I struggled to find something “noteworthy” to write because there was nothing else on my mind except the pain I was going through in my marriage. That was something that never made its way into my journal. The prosecutor is relying on Jodi’s journal as a complete and accurate record of all the conditions and events of her life were during those stressful days after Jodi caught Travis jacking off on the pics of the little boys. In fact, the journal was probably a superficial record of day to day events that were occurring with no intended structure. Penning the pervert’s acts to the journal may have been too painful and embarrasing for Jodi to write. In addition, Jodi was still shielding Travis because there was always that faint glimmer of hope that Travis would somehow become the man that Travis pretended to be. The journal cannot be relied upon as a valid source of fact. Many people use journals to fanticize as an emotional escape. A journal is that safe place a person can go and say anything or become anyone they want in whatever manner of playfulness they choose. Journals are a place where a guy can become a powerful president of a large corporation who is rich and surrounded by a bunch of beautiful girls. Then the guy can laugh, close the cover to the journal and move on to packing his lunch for the next day at the machine shop. The journal may serve to be this guy’s release from the day to day struggle. Journals are a place where we can vent anxiety and commit slander and even acts of treason without threat of consequences. Heck, if the government had my journals from years gone by, I would probably be facing a firing squad!!! I think it is totally irresponsible for a judge to allow a personal journal into evidence given the nature and purpose of personal private journals. This to me constitutes prejudicial error on the part of the judge. It may serve to be grounds for appeal. It probably would not get a mistrial since we already know that the judge does not grant mistrials even when there is cause, which is yet furthur grounds for an appeal. I don’t think it will come down to an appeal because I believe that Jodi will prevail in showing that she was protecting herself against a person who clearly had a size and weight advantage over Jodi during his attack on her.

    • David, another thing about the journals that i just rememberes is that She was realling BIG into the Law of Attraction….which basically says that we are all made out of energy and our thoughts are energy and what we think and believe is attracted to us bc like energy is attracted to like energy….and when it comes to Journal writing and the Law of Attraction it is well known that you DO NOT write ANYTHING BAD!!! you ONLY write about WHAT YOU WANT and WHAT IS GOOD in your life…. basically be in constant gratituide in order to attract more GOOD….because writing about the bad, will just attract more of it!!!! I wonder why she didnt say that to Juan when he asked her about the journals? I know she said it when the defense was questioning her. She actually said she never wrote anything bad in her journals… but I wonder why she didnt elaborate on it again? I feel like she isnt aloud to say certain things??? Does anyone know about this, is she limited to what she can say….I think just Yes or No answers? which is really F UP!!!

      • Ann, The law of attraction thing probably has a general impact on how a person may approach a journal. Most religions have some take on the law of attraction in their teachings. I don’t know if that would be a reason to exclude specific information. One thing for sure is that there are no “rules” that need to be followed by someone who writes journals. There is no requirement that Jodi write down everything in the journal. It is totally up to the author to determine what is written. what might seen to be noteworthy to one person may not be to another. The journal is not any official record of anything. There are no regulations that a person has to follow. The times and dates cannot even be relied upon and should not be considered evidence. Did Jodi tell everyone in these journals what she had for breakfast? How many scoops of sugar in the coffee? What color of blouse? How much gasoline purchased? One could argue that these items are also noteworthy. What if she said that she bought a tank full of gas and it was determined that Jodi only purchased a half a tank. Would this constitute lying? So who determines what is noteworthy? Certainly only Jodi. The rest of the world cannot know the operation of Jodi’s mind when the journals were written with respect to what was noteworthy at any given point in the journal. Who is the only person who can determine accuracy in the journal? Only Jodi has the right because it was written by Jodi, for Jodi and only for Jodi’s eyes. The document was taken out of it’s intended scope and that is a violation of Jodi’s privacy. Airing it on TV is what I would call cruel and unusual punishment. That is why the journal should be considered hearsay and should have been excluded from evidence. It certainly should not be used to establish timelines or to make assumptions of un-proven theories about what was or was not happening in the real world.

96. I have been following your web site and the trial since day one. I have a high school GED and work at a restaurant. I have never written before. I have a question.

    My question is…why does it seem that the Judge favors the prosecution? Does it seem that way to every body else or is it just me? I am not a lawyer…is this the way court is always handled?

    • yes it is. Its suppose to be “innocent until proven guilty” but its not. Because as you are seeing its Jodi trying to prove her innocence. There is no justice in this system. its been broken for along time.

    • The judge has made some rulings that could be construed in favor of the prosecution. The main thing to understand is that may of us believe that Jodi is innocent. Many of us believe that the burden of proof for the prosecution is so great that Jodi will prevail as long as the people of the jury understand the jury instructions and act on the evidence of the case without prejudice. Judges can have negative impacts on a party of a case. Remember the Kaycee trial. The judge was clearly against Kaycee however based on the instructions given in the law, Kaycee had to be found not guilty. Anyone with a brain knew from the start that Kaycee would be found not guilty. The media had all of the hype on Nancy G show but in the long run, the system did work the way it was supposed to work. That is why Kaycee was found not-guilty. Likewise, if the system is allowed to work without prejudice in Jodi’s trial, I believe that Jodi will also be found not guilty. There are many of us watching the judge and looking at the evidence being presented. If Jodi doesn’t get a fair trial, it will come to light and she will eventually win on appeal. I am counting on Jodi walking free soon.

97. I have a couple questions for anyone and everyone… and I don’t mean this in a negative Jodi way… just feeling perplexed because I have found her to be very articulate, clear and convincing, and like many of you women on this website, I have an idea about what it’s like to stick with a man who doesn’t exactly treat you well. Women and men are attracted to each other in a subconscious effort to relieve earlier trauma and issues from life… for those of us who have been abused, this means seeking out abusive partners in a contorted attempt to heal old wounds. Lord knows Travis was abusive, and frankly I am not surprised or particularly sorry that she fought back. It is NOT OKAY to treat women like sexual objects. It demeans both parties and it is cruel, plain and simple.

    ANYway… if Travis was naked (and we can safely assume he was since he was in the shower), why wouldn’t Jodi run out the front door? Surely he wouldn’t chase her outside naked? And what about the friend of Travis’ who said he didn’t own a gun?

    Also… the testimony from yesterday about the smuggled magazines and the hidden messages really concern me. It does sound like she was trying to get her ex-boyfriend to vouch for mistruths that she had included in her story and her defense.

    Can someone help??

    Thank you!

    • Hi Ruthie,

      She didn’t run out of the house bc she wld have never made it to the front door. He wld have reached her while she was halfway down the stairs and she knew that bc she previously testified about another instance where she tried to escape. But even if she never testified, it makes sense that she wld have went for the closet rather than down the hall, down the stairs, and out the locked front door. It wld taken too much time!!!

      His friend, that said he didn’t own a gun is going by the fact that Travis asked him to borrow his gun when they all went shooting. However, there is video of them shooting that day and they are using large semi-automatic weapons. not hand guns!!! The video also proves that Travis was 100% into guns which makes it very very plausible that he owned a hand gun!! If the prosecuter can get one of his roommates to testify that they are 100% for sure there was no gun in the house, then theres a prob. But from what I understand, no one can testify to that. Which makes me believe even more so that they knew he had a gun and won’t say he did.

      As far as the magazine….I ask you this…if your life was on the line, wldnt you do whatever you cld to protect it? All it showed was that she was trying to clarify certain thins with him and she asked him to speak to her lawyer again. Her ex was not testifying about the murder itself. he was testifying about her character. That they were together for 4 + yrs and he never had violent confrontations w her or problems. And lest face it, when your in a four yr relationship with someone the memories of fights etc arent always the same perspective lol so maybe he said something that cld be used against her. It has to be done with great cautiousness bc the prosecuter cld take anything, no matter how little, and try to make it big…look what he did with her sister….he tried to use the fact that she said her sister was dumb, against her And make her look like she was sooooo bad for saying that lol it backed fired on him, but you never know!! Also, She basically chaeted on her x w Travis so im sure she wanted to make sure he didn’t say anything bad about that….But if he really thought she was capable of premeditating Travis murder, I’m sure he wld simply, not testify or plead the fifth. Plus, he had a 4yr old son, if he thought she was crazy he wld have never subjected his son to that for four years….he is much older than her, and def had his act together

      • Hammering her because she’d called her sister “dumb” seemed pretty desperate to me.

        Most of us can relate to feeling okay with calling our loved ones names at times, but heaven help anyone else who dares to do the same thing.

      • Hi Ann,

        Thanks for your comments and insights. I actually thought the same thing about the video with the guns… it doesn’t prove much since they were using semi-automatics. I don’t have a good sense of the outlay of the house, so I was having trouble picturing the difficulty of running down the stairs and out the front door… my thought was that running into a closet seems like a great way to trap yourself… like the main female characters in horror movies who always do the wrong thing while the predator is going after them, and the audience is screaming ‘No! Don’t do that!’ But until you are in a situation, who is say how you will behave in a panicked state? Especially if she knew there was a gun in there.

        The magazine messages… I wasn’t clear on what she was trying to convey or what her ex had said to the lawyers. I am sure different ‘rules’ apply in jail and especially when your life is on the line. Believe me, I want to believe that Jodi is innocent. There is something about her that is very familiar. Something that reminds me of myself and SO many other women who because of their insecurities, place too much importance on a man’s opinion. I think many of us have done that. I know I have… really staked my self worth on whether a particular man finds me attractive. It’s pretty dysfunctional but it comes out of a rocky childhood where your self worth never had the proper chance to develop. I think if anything, her attitude towards the prosecutor shows that she is being honest. It seems like at this point she is thinking, whatever, I am just going to tell it like it is and let the chips fall where they may. His attitude towards her is so exaggerated it is stupid.

        I also agree that the idea of the whole thing being premeditated far in advance makes no sense. She has said that she woke up well before he did in the afternoon. Why wouldn’t she have shot him then and made a clean getaway? The knife was a spontaneous weapon, not one of choice or planning. Who would premeditate killing someone in such a messy way? The odds of injuring yourself are so much higher and then poof, there’s the DNA evidence of spilled blood that doesn’t match the victim. Jodi is a very intelligent person and would have planned for that if she were in fact planning the whole thing. She would know that Travis would fight back and she could wind up dead herself of knife wounds.

98. Oh, and P.S. A few years ago I went through a terrible, traumatic divorce. I won’t go into the sordid details, but suffice it to say that it was very, very bad. After learning of a series of profound betrayals on the part of my ex-husband, I nearly lost it and became violent. I was SO close. I had to lock myself in a bathroom and insisted that he leave the house so I wouldn’t do something stupid. It was a VERY ugly scene. He did leave the house, and for the life of me I can not remember how I passed the rest of the evening by myself in our house. I vaguely remember the following morning but that terrible evening is lost. This all happened in the afternoon. The rest of the day is just plain gone from my memory. Trauma absolutely induces amnesia. I can speak to that with 100% conviction.

    • Yep, and they will have experts to testify for that.

99. People commenting on this forum should be aware that it has been said to be a phoney site set up by TA’s camp to guage public opinion.

    • I’m sure they know that many people believe she’s innocent of pre-meditated murder and pubic opinion Doesn’t have any effect on the trial…so let them gauge all they want lollll Doesn’t do anything for them except probably just piss them off!! Something happened in that house for her to do that. If she premeditated it, things wld have went down a lot differently.

      • I agree with you. I don’t believe she went there with the intention of killing TA. If she’d wanted to, she could have done it quickly and cleanly as he slept, and then got away without anyone even knowing she had been there.

        I remain convinced that something happened there in the shower that sent her over the edge.

        • This is a huge problem with the premeditation idea. I have yet to see any reasonable explanation that she would have spent all day, with the gun, and decided to start a knife fight instead of just shooting him until he was dead.

          It makes no sense. This is clearly a crime of passion that exploded in the bathroom. This case is overcharged, and I don’t like it that we are all paying for it.

          • Jeff,

            They found the bullett casing on top of the blood which means she would of had to have injured Travis before she shot him.

        • As a person who has sat on the face often enough in this trial (though completely against the DP) I have watched much of this cross and I can’t find anything they have said to influence me in the States favor.

          • They have evidence of premediatation no doubt. But they can’t prove it even though they are trying too. So, murder #1 is out of the question here.

            Juries are unpredictable sometimes.

            The thing that amazes me was how her legal council allowed her to conduct those TV interviews years ago.

            It’s really hurting her defense and that is why the Pitbull keeps going after her lying problems.

        • I wonder if Travis told her that he never wanted to see her again or started calling her names. Something to that effect. Than she just exploded on him.

          There are several theories on the stabbings on his back.

          I think that Jody was just a booty call for him and nothing more.

          There was testimony that he would rarely if ever show public affection towards her. That is a big indicator.

    • That’s funny. Many of us know the owner… I can’t believe they are saying that.

      • I think this must be where I read it. Now that I’ve re-read it, it’s actually not very credible. However, I had a couple of my posts that quoted from TA’s MySpace account (that showed him to be an arrogant buffoon) removed. and it did make me wonder. http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_phoenix_metro/central_phoenix/Jodi-Arias-trial-Fans-sending-accused-murderer-online-messages-of-love-and-support

        “MariaDePasqualeBattista
        I think it’s a fake site where the ‘person’ who runs it just likes messing with the heads of the Jodi sheeple….he made a comment to a poster on his blog who questioned Jodi’s innocent to the effect of “why are you wondering if she is guilty when this site has already told you how to think?” that comment has since been taken down…I think SJ knows Jodi is guilty and doesn’t believe a word of his own words….he has an agenda. ”

        “CharleeMcWhirter
        ther person who created this site doesnt give a flip about her or casey one way or the other its all about traffic and profits like many websites
        JacquelineDazio-Newell and MariaDePasqualeBattista like this.
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        MariaDePasqualeBattista
        so true…he has an agenda and I think gets a kick out of making fools of the sheeple.
        JacquelineDazio-Newell likes this.”

        • It was a friend, a fellow supporter, who said this *could be* a site set up by Team TA. My apologies.

        • OMG really? I’ve had Email conversations with SJ because I was interested in, and did purchase, Jodi’s art and also wanted to write to Jodi. How is that not real? LOL.

          • Yeah, I guess I was momentarily taken in by the comments of others.

            Jodi is a very talented artist. It’s a shame her life took this direction.

            I will never know what she saw in TA. One only has to look at the self-praise and arrogant crap he writes about himself on his MySpace page to know that he was a douchebag with a capital D.

100. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jodi-Arias-Support-Page/218082115004964?ref=hl
     Here is Jodi Arias Support Page I created on facebook.Im inviting everyone to check it out.

101. Be careful going on Faceless Book because the TA supporters can hack you and you will get some death threats or Nancy G will smear your name.

     • Thanks David for the heads up.I’ve had to ban three people aleady for posting bad things about Jodi on my Jodi Arias support page. I kind of new that that was going to happen.Ive read all the horrible things people’s been saying on other websites. Those people say some really nasty things.I don’t care much for Nancy G.I watched a video of her discussing the case once and that was it. I don’t pay no attention to people like her. Those websites i mentioned where people say mean things about Jodi i always explain in my comment i leave that she is innocent because she was defending herself against her abuser Travis. As far as my facebook page goes I want to keep it clean so i have to monitor it alot. My policy is and i have it posted whoever leaves negative comments about Jodi will be banned from the page.There is no reason for people to act like that. So far I haven’t recieved any threats so thats good.

       • The show I’m really disappointed in is Dr. Drew he is a Jodi hater too.

       • Good luck with the page Roger. I admire you for taking a stand. I believe that Jodi is innocent and I look forward to the day that all of the negative people eat their words., especially Nancy G.

102. Guys and gals,

     We were talking last week about getting moneyorders for Jodi and her family. I mentioned to you before that I had purchased several of her pictures and wound up in contact with her friend assisting her with ebay. Anyway, I was able to obtain the address through the friend. If you want the info please Email me at drknel00@gmail.com.

     • Check that, I’m waiting on approval before I can share the address. Have to filter out the haters. I will get back to you guys.

       • Hey, it’s on; Email me if you are interested in donating to Jodi’s cause

103. I just left a message with Jodi’s attorney’s office and am expecting a call back. I have been following this case very close and there is a lot that just doesn’t add up. So I have been pounding the pavement and found exactly what I suspected in the first place. Travis is no saint, his childhood is filled with extreme abuse at the hands of his own mother. Travis was writing a book called “Raising You” about his childhood growing up. I have copied and pasted one sentence from his blog on his book: ” I remember my mother emptying a revolver on the car my father was driving and my father subsequently taking an axe to my mother’s belongings and destroying them”. I find it strange how he ended up dying tragically like the life he describes he was running from. Well this hits to close to home for Jodi to be the big bad wolf. This is the link:http://www.myspace.com/tvalexander/blog …read it for yourself.

     • I am happy to have found this website as it provides a different view on this case, than what is being portrayed on all of the TV networks. To date, I have not found one show that has presented this high profile case with any objectivity. I have not seen anyone that asserts the belief that Jodi was in fact abused and acted in self defense. This is in no way representative of what the jury will be like. I suspect there will be much disagreement in jury deliberations, unlike the current media coverage that only discusses one side.

       I have watched most of the trial coverage and have kept an open mind. I must say that I am leaning toward self defense at this time. I think Jodi’s actions throughout her relationship with Travis are classic for an abused young women. I also believe that Travis was a very broken person from his own history of abuse, as evidenced by his myspace page. I believe he was fighting his own demons which included emotional and physical abuse of others, and more particularly Jodi. I believe his angry text messages were a foreshadowing of his eventual full forced anger toward her and attack on her. Classic escalation of domestic violence, which I believe will become more clear as the defense case goes forward.

       This is a tragedy all the way around, and I do feel for Travis’ family who are grieving the loss of someone they loved, despite his short comings. I hope some of the commentors on this site keep that in mind when they discuss his family.

       My hope is that the twelve jurors will look at all the evidence, and come to an educated and non biased verdict.

       • Well said TR! I could not agree with you more. The collective minds of twelve jurors will determine the outcome of Jodi’s fate. Her destiny lies in the hands of what I hope is a fair and judicial process.

104. Giant yawn on all these playbacks of her interviews. We get it. She was lying. She admitted it. I see nothing beneficial as a juror to this. He is grasping at straws. I’m actually starting to feel sorry for him.

     • He is beating on this idea that she says nothing is her responsibility. It isn’t working on me.

       • He is a broken rec..cor..dddd like Nancy G. I think that when all the facts have already been presented, it is hard to come up with something else. If I could believe that the prosecutor was pursuing a conviction out of a true sense of finding justice, I could have some respect for him. However, he is only interested in putting another feather in his cap and another notch on his belt. Maybe he wants to write a book or get some interview money for TV appearances. He certainly is not motivated by justice. The sad thing is that this guy would send an innocent person to her grave in order to get what he wants. That is pure greed and it is purely evil.

105. Travis Alexander was apparently a sadist who was beating and physically abusing her on a frequent basis. In my personal opinion it was a justifiable homicide committed in self-defense.

106. I keep catching bits and pieces of this trial on TV, but today I tuned in a little longer. I just have to say, I totally sympathize with Jodi having to put up with that prosecutor. He’s very obviously trying to trap her with her own words, trying to force characteristics on her out of a few incidents from her past. If he didn’t start whining about her not answering the questions he asked (really, just not answering them the way HE wants her to), Martinez would have done better. But she’s right, the way he conducts his cross-examination would be intimidating to anyone, innocent or guilty. Not to mention the short-term memory loss could be attributed to lack of sleep and/or stress. His willingness to ridicule her for it kind of sickened me.

     • While I understand that a man lost his life in this and Martinez wants the jury to really understand this, his approach to her Jodi being so harsh and black and white is not going to help the prosecution. They are going to see a young woman being battered, interrogated and disrespected. And while I do believe the experience of being with TA was abusive for Jodi in nature I am not convinced *YET that her life was in immenent danger to warrant 29 stab wounds,.. I am however convinced she felt she had to defend herself. I am very eager to hear the experts on what happened psychologically to make Jodi react to the point that she did…. that may seal my thoughts on things. Regardless. I not believe the approach of the prosecution is helping them. No one wants to see another person killed all over again…. Mr. Martiez would do better to help the Jury come to their own conclusion as to if she was justified or not and then if it warrants death… is he trying to get a conviction or another murder?

107. Geography????? The oral sex on the porch was a power trip. No talking, just him using her and no talking. No affection etc. This is not the same as oral sex in the bedroom. I fully understand the difference. The porch is much more of a fetish act.

     Am I the only one who gets that?

     • TA was not interested in intimacy and love. He was interested in whatever his sick mind desired at any given moment. If it wasn’t dirty sex with Jodi, it was dirty sex with himself while looking at some child. It is nauseating to think about.

       • How right you are. To him Jodi was simply a means of getting rid of his sexual urges. In his own words, she was his “three hole wonder” (what kind of man even talks like that?), but to Jodi, sex with TA was equated with showing her love for him. Speaking generally, most women are, to at least some degree, emotionally involved when we have sex. It’s not just a physical act.

108. Unless I missed it, the prosecution has not been able to tie Jodi to the two tire-slashing incidents.

     Did the authorities even look further than the ends of their noses?

     It could have been done by an angry suitor or husband of the women with whom TA was engaging. Or perhaps it was a disgruntled customer who’d bought into his PPL pyramid scheme. Or maybe it was a member of the LDS who knew of his sexual activities and wanted to scare him.

     Read here for a publicized tire-slashing by obvious supporters/members of LDS.
     http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51190895-76/hatch-bukharin-car-run.html.csp

     • Good point

109. @Carol: The show/person i’m fed up with is Nancy G. This woman invites prosecutors and defense attorneys onto her show and asks questions of them, and if they give an answer that she disagrees with she mocks them and treats them poorly. Hell she even ordered that 1 fella’s mic was cut off this evening. How she even has a show is beyond me, and why these people even agree to appear on her show is even more shocking. Also a lot of the time she goes on and on about certain things, such as Jodi lied. Well no shit sherlock that’s already been established that Jodi had originally lied in her past statements/interviews because she obviously was afraid of being caught. Now that she has been exposed for her past lies, i believe she’s telling the truth this time around, it’s the only alternative she has left in order to save her life. So like give it up already NG it really makes you look unprofessional in my opinion.

     • She is RUDE ! if you do not agree with her you can actually see her hate an discontent in her face an actions it is truly disgusting to me……………I think NG an Honey Boo Boo are related some how ? same attitudes.

110. Jody just admitted that when she sent an email to Travis two days after his death that it was a coverup attempt.

     The question is: Will the jury see that as premeditation? Or , will that matter?

     • If she tried to cover it up that has nothing to do w premeditaion….what she did after the murder has no bearing on premeditation….premeditation is before hand and they have nada…they are saying she waited and planned until he was “most vulernable” in the shower…but A) he was most vulnerable while he was sleeping or during sex. And B) he wasnt stabbed in the shower HE WAS STABBED in the halllway!!! So the fact that they keep saying she attacked him in the shower is false!!! The fact that she covered it up just says she was scared!!!! She was freaked out about what happened and did everything she cld to make it GO AWAY and pretend she didnt do it!!!

       • Ann

         Then why not admit to it upfront to the police then istead of changing her story so many times? It could lead the jury to think she planned to do it.

         I don’t think they have enough to convict her on murder # 1.

         • In my opinion there is def reasonable doubt. The prosecutor tries to ask the same question over and over and over in different ways and I dont think covering something up is equivalent with premeditation. People do a lot of things they regret and try to cover it up. I have questions yes, such as why Jodi went to such lengths to “cover it” with the stories if she was so terrified and felt it was justified but yet I can see how after the fact one might resort to that out of fear. I dont think covering it by taking the rope and gun with her and making a call to Travis equals premeditation; it seems to equal a woman freaked out that wanted it to go away. He made her admit she “did something wrong against Mr. Alexandar and seems to me he is going to take that out of context and say she is admitting the killing was not warranted cause it it was, why would it have been wrong to do it and save her own life? He is playing on semantics and trying to twist her answers and state that her post actions indicate she was of sound mind and not in a fog so she must remember more than she is saying. We dont know that and its stretching; I think “stretching” like that on a murder 1 case is wrong. And her renting a car and taking gas cans cause of the cost of fuel, he is stretching to say she was trying to cover her tracks that she even went to AZ… its all too sloppy for premeditation. I think she felt no on would believe she was in really in that level of danger and I must admit I think its hard for most to understand that; I think she is doing well to clarify what what the Mr. Martinez is asking and listening intently to his questions cause they are leading and being set as traps… “wouldnt you agree … blah blah blah is leading… I investigate allegations of abuse and we are trained to not provide any type of answer but ask open ended questions and certainly not start with “wouldnt you agree…” but Mr. Martinez is not an investigator; hes a lawyer and Im not sure what he will find a success for the state, A guilty verdict of Murder 1 or the death penalty? Awful to think the goal is to put someone to death. She seems like an intelligent young lady and I dont think I could convict on Murder 1, that is not to say I dont think there will be a conviction of some kind.

           • And if she had answered she did not do something wrong the prosecution would then say, she doesnt take any responsibility or have any remorse. either way she answers that ques, “according to them and lynch mob” she loses. So she answers she did do something wrong and they will attack that as though she is admitting it was not self defense.

         • L the girl was litterly “out of her mind”. She just brutally murdered the love of her life and cldnt absorb how or why it happened…..she had serious serious trauma going on and what the media wont tell you is that it is very very common for ppl to disassociate themselves from the truama….go into denial and actualky pretend nothing happened…..that is exactly what she did….if she faced thr truth and told the police what really happened I 100% believe she wld have def comoletely lost her mind….at the time she wasnt ready to face it so she lied to her self and everyone else….im in the mental health field and it is a classic defense mechansim what she did and an expert will show proof of that on the stand through bringing into evidence certain examples that are on file in the case study profiles…also, she shows clear signs of abuse….all thse ppl that are o. Tv who said they were abused etc and she doesnt show signs shldnt not be represented battered women…..I can see 5 clear and obvious signs and it makes me sick what the media is doing…..

111. If it was pre mediated murder why would sh e nsot kill him the night she got there when they went to sleep .simple answer because it was not

     • What would Martinez have had Jodi do? Dial 911 and say “Oops sorry, but I’ve just realized that I killed a man”? Of COURSE she wanted to delete any trace of her having been at the crime scene. Of COURSE she did her best to throw investigators off her trail. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work that one out.

       As for the married woman who is now publicly denying that she ever had any inappropriate flirting of a sexual nature with TA, of COURSE she is now going to deny it!!!! He was a horndog and I believe he DID have that kind of banter with other women.

     • I agree. If Jodi had gone there with the intention of killing him, she would have done it quietly and quickly, and no one would have been able to trace the crime back to her.

112. There are two facts about this case which are hard to explain away. The most obvious is the manner in which Travis is killed. Second, the perponderance of the evidence when it comes to the coincidences like rental car, gas cans, stolen gun, upside down license plate and phone being turned off. Even if she were abused, that fact does not grant immunity from premeditation in murder. It would seem to me all that it would do is possibly grant sympathy in sentencing.

     I’ve been in relationships very similar to this one. In fact, events like camera dropping, backpack hissies, stalking, and going on trips with others as a triggering event for irrational actions, I have quite literally experienced myself from ex-girlfriends. So from personal experience, I can say with little doubt, the Cancun trip was a triggering event. The pattern fits perfectly. But having said all of this, I don’t think she deserves the death penalty. What she went through is apparently some kind of human nature people can get trapped in when confronted with a certain kind of relationship while at a vulnerable point in their life. I now have enough experience to specifically avoid women like this when it comes to relationships because I know how it always ends badly. Regardless, Jodi would not have been a murderer if she hadn’t gotten trapped in this type of relationship at this time of her life. She is obviously guilty, but I don’t think she deserves the death penalty when events (which she had little control over) contributed so significantly to what she did while she was in her vulnerable state of mind. In other words, capital punishment won’t do anything to prevent this from happening again. Only way to prevent it is to recognize the dangerous pattern of behavior while it’s happening before it leads to something bad like what happened here.

     • No, it doesn’t. The Cancun trip was completely debunked thanks to the sex tape.

       Stop believing the nonsense spewed by Travis’s friends who didn’t know him at all.

       • Just because they had sex doesn’t make the fact go away that he was planning to run off with another woman to a romantic place in a few days. There is a such thing as jealousy, and it tends to express itself irrationally at moments right before events just like this. It doesn’t matter if she knew about it months or a year in advance. It just means she was able to explain to herself that she could either change the trip or that it didn’t matter for all that time. But as the trip approaches and the situation never changes, it gets harder and harder to keep explaining to yourself that it doesn’t matter. Like I said, there’s an element of human nature here. I’ve lived through it to know it’s very real. I don’t need anyone on tv to tell me how it works. In fact I agree with you that most in the media do not understand all the forces at work here and unfairly demonizes Jodi. She is a victim of circumstance as much as she is guilty of the murder. And respect should be paid to that.

         • Michael….let me ask you this….if she “premeditated his murder”….if she planed to kill him weeks before she went there then why didn’t she do it during sex? “come on honey…let me tie you up”…stab stab stab…..or even better….wait until he fell asleep and shot him in the head….even better….she knew his roommates routine…he got home 6pm sharp every night from work….why the fuck wld she wait till 5:33 pm to kill him and kill him leaving a bloody mess??? As far as the evidence that you are saying that supports it….I took trips from Cali to Scotsdale plenty of times….the roads are desolate, scary, and pretty much the desert…I in fact I took gas cans with me just in case…also, there has always been a huge price dif in gas between Cali and Arizona…it’s a known fact….the rent a car?? She’s a smart girl….why wld she rent a car under her name when her exact mileage could be traced, time in and out etc….that is more traceable in so many ways then if she were to take her own car….now if she disguised herself…used a fake lisence etc then I wld say YA she’s guilty….but no way does that prove premeditation…and I think it’s redic that ppl are pointing to that….her explanation makes 100% sense….we know she was broke by her bank records…she cldnt afford to get her car fixed….renting a car was the only option…and she rented cars before when going to visit him….everyone is forgetting that!!! 3 times she rented a car….and she even rented a car when she went to Vegas one time….so def not suspicious!!! She rented it out side of her town bc of cheaper deal….when you order online, you go with cheaper deal when your broke!! Red car, white car???? Defff white car…red car is bad luck w speeding and accidents…insurance is also HIGHER or red sports cars bc of the stigma!! The lisence plate and phone issues were after the fact!!! Not premeditation….She tried covering it up…I wld too, especially if I didn’t remember WTF happened but I knew I had to do something bad!!! The Gun?? They say it is the “same caliber” but where is the evidence of that??? Did they show a similar gun in court and court order her grandfather or grandmother on the stand to support this….Did they show the police report filed that it was stolen that says same caliber??? Do her grandparents even know what kind of caliber it was??? people don’t realize this but prosecution doesn’t have to prove anything….they can just say it…they have that power….that’s why innocent ppl go to jail everyday!!! Coincidence….maybe? Or maybe she gave it to Travis as a gift…we know he liked guns??? maybe she brought it to the house to threaten to kill her self? Maybe she took it to protect herself on road trip?? Maybe she stole it to use in a fantasy….Who knows??? But that is 100% makes room for reasonable doubt…there are so many issues with the gun….I want to see REAL evidence that it was the same caliber…bc that is open for questioning….but again, if she really went there to kill him she wldnt have done it 25 min b4 his roommate was due to come home….when she had alllllllll day!!!! she wldnt have done it when he was standing up and alert and had the best chance to defend himself.. when she cld have very easily done it while he was sleeping or during sex…..SOMETHING 110% happened in a split second….that wasn’t planned!!! And the way he was killed??? Let’s just say if my life was in danger i prob Wldnt be able to stop stabbing either and if someone you loved tried to kill you….wldnt you be filled with rage??? If a stranger tried to hurt me, I wld simply kill him….but it were my boyfriend….my best girl friend….my cousin….my husband I wld murder them!!! It wld def b an overkill bc of the betrayal…. If she was truly abused(which i believe she was for many reason) and he tried to hurt her that day, the way she killed him can absolutely point to over kill do to emotions and bond!!

           • Ann, such anger in your post serves no purpose what-so-ever. In fact your swearing does not help to make your point, it only makes you look especially angry. Michael, and everyone else on this post, is entitled to an opinion without anger and the need to swear. Let us continue to support Jodi without additional abuse!

         • Michael,
           Travi sounded jealous about her going to utah on the sex tape and jodi said he was. yeah there probably were overtones of jealousy, but based on the evidence of both how Jodi talked in her diary when she found out travis was with amy D, she didnt sound jealous! She sounded sad, she blamed herself fully. She wasnt as jealous as your perceiving her in my opinion. Nosy because she didn’t want to be emotionally ambushed, but over jealous? Show me what in the evidence shows that?

     • Jodi is an intelligent woman. She would not have gone to TA with the expectation of his suddenly changing his mind at the last minute, dumping the LDS woman and taking her with him instead.

       I still cannot believe Jodi is the one who slashed TA’s throat. I believe she left him critically injured and that someone else, with their own agenda, came in and finished him off.

       There are far too many holes in this story that make me uneasy about whether or not she has been set up to take the fall. Just for starters, there is the roommate who came in and out of the house during the entire time TA’s body lay decomposing in the next room, and “didn’t notice” anything untoward. In fact, Billings and his girlfriend were actually IN the house when the body was discovered. And yet the police report states that the odor of decomposition was overwhelming the minute they opened the front door!!!!

       Also, he seems to have a problem sticking to his story of when he used the washing machine. And in the police statement, he says he is a “photographer” and that TA had asked his advice when buying the camera. Who’s to say that he isn’t the one who found TA, saw the camera, deleted the photos, and tossed it in the washing machine along with his laundry? On that note, Jodi was more than an amateur photographer, she would have known to remove the memory card from the camera. These are just some thoughts of mine while watching this trial unfold.

       • Excellent point JGB. Something that doesn’t seem to be of interest to investigating this murder. To add to your observation, how is it that Jodi was able to move Travis’s body on her own? Did she perhaps use the “missing rope” to pull him back to the shower, through the bedroom or is there any possibility that she had help? Something, in my opinion, that should have been investigated.
         None the less, she did in fact kill him but did she do it alone??

     • Michael, I think your comments make much sense particularly the planned Cancun trip having possibly “thrown her over the edge”. This coupled with the thought that she may have a future with Travis could have been too much for her to bare. Also, Travis did not do much to end the relationship with Jodi, due to his own sexual gratification, and contributed to Jodi’s false expectations. Given Jodi’s prior failed relationships and the reasons she was so very vulnerable and clearly Travis took advantage of this. Did she pre-mediate killing him? Maybe or maybe not. I think the accusation of emotional domestic abuse is abundantly clear and responsibility for this lies with Travis. However it does not justify the brutal murdering of him.
       Travis, as has been proven, suspected something array with Jodi but still chose to use her for his personal satisfaction. He also hid behind his faith ,while taking advantage of Jodi, keeping his sexual deviancy a secret. Others also suspected Jodi’s issues but no one reached out to help her. If they had we may not have this unfortunate devastating death. You are so correct in stating that “The only way to prevent it is to recognize the dangerous pattern of behavior while it’s happening before it leads to something bad like what happened here”.

113. This was a crime of great passion.
     Such crimes are expressions of deep anger.
     One may infer that Travis was the cause of this anger.
     Most likely she had allowed herself to be sexually abused to try to retain his love.
     If rejected she would have felt deep shame and anger at what she had allowed Travis to do to her.
     Anal sex is not a pleasurable experience except to the male. It is an expression of male domination over the female.The pleasure for the male is in the idea of his DOMINATION.
     Nancy Grace and Jane Velez dpeak with twisted and hate-filled tongues. They must be very unhappy women.

114. don’t believe prosecution can prove murder 1…..perhaps manslaughter for crime of passion
     my hope is that Jodi is found innocent. TA sounds like a real pervert….having hard sex with Jodi
     shortly after Baptizing her into the Mormon church. pretty twisted if you ask me. What a narcissist TA. was!
     Looks like a hung jury at best for the prosecution because surely Martinez’s aggressive behavior will turn off at least a few jurors and also lack of proving premeditation.

     • Yes, Well Said .We Can Only Hope And Pray For A Hung Jury. Jodi Has Been Through Enough!!!!

115. I think the boyfriend was more like a Morman Jimmy Swaggert. Motivational speaker, my butt!!! All that arrogant narcissist wanted her for was was butt sex, I think he was just another low life scam artist that got too big for his britches.

     • Come on Elmer Fud, Think well before making a comment.

       • Ditto!

116. Is she being tried in a predominantly Mormon county? If she is, her chances are worse than other places because men are superior and right no matter what they do in Mormon culture it seems to me. Everyone, from the judge, to the jury, to the cleaning woman will be predisposed to believe “the man is not at fault” ever mentality.

     • Pfffff that Morman thing is a whole other story lol don’t even get me started!!! That church destroys lives….its worse than Scientology……& I was a Scientologist for a little bit lolllllll coooo kooooooo lollll anyway Morman religion def very culty, and def controls and alienates you….def makes you feel bad about your self all the time too. not fun!! I love how they love God, but something is very storage there!!

117. I have been asking myself over and over how a sweet gentle woman like Jodi who have never displayed violence and was liked by most people who knew her could have committed such a horrific crime and how she had the strength, It take a tremendous amount of force to slit someone’s throat, also to stab someone 29 times. the prosecution told the jurors that Travis was such a big man much bigger than Jodi
     and no doubt he could have defended himself even after being stabbed. the prosecution implied that Jodi
     could not have outrun him because he was so much stronger and faster, so what is it, one time he is so strong and the next time he falls like a weakling????
     This evening I heard someone on the Nancy GraceLESS show, I think it was Brian Carr, said that the Mormons demand a blood sacrifice against someone who has committed sins against the church teachings and that the story Jodi told about two individuals entering the house and killing Travis was true.
     How could Jodi have drug him to the shower and dumping him there after killing him? Dead weight is heavier than a live person. Brian Carr also said that Jodi is protecting her family, she is afraid that if she tells on this people they will kill her and her family. I don’t pretend to know the true but there is so many questions that comes to mind. Any ideas out there?

     • I’m with you….ive known about this for ever bc my best friend is an X morman but i never say anything bc i dnt want to sound like a crazy person lollll but if you google Blood Attonement for Sins in the Morman Church you will find that there has been a lot of murders!!! Most recent one are in 1989 and another in 1984 when a mother and baby were killed….everyone was killed by their throats being cut??? Something isn’t right!!!!

118. Jodi’s revengeful acts stem from her being hurt and even though by law, what she did was horrifying, she was a woman scorned.. My book is exactly about this – The terrible things men make women do – A woman Scorned – http://www.theterriblethingsonline.com

     • Your mother is right. As long as Travis Alexander kept reeling Jodi in and toying with her emotions while pretending to be some paragon of virtue to the outside world, she continued to lick up her own vomit.

119. @Michele: are you questioning if Jodi did this alone and possibly had an accomplice? If so, it has also crossed my mind more than once. As you mention picking up dead weight (literally in this case) is no easy task. Like picking up someone who has passed out a party, even if you outweigh THEM and are in good physical condition, its not easy to do. That being said though, you would think they would have found evidence (bloody foot prints etc) not matching those of either Jodi and TA.

     • Pfffffff The police could very well be in on it….the Morman church is very very powerful and they have been known to cover up murders etc in the past!!! Plus it is also known that they have killed people like this before….it was actually very popular in the church up until the late 1800 and some fundamental groups still practice it today.

120. I only recently started watching this story on you tube a few days ago. However, my preliminary questions are if this Alexander guy was such an overly possessive and manipulative person, there was a very easy way to resolve the situation and no one would have to go to prison or worse, simply break up, leave, and move on with your life. On the other hand, I am having a difficult time believing Arias would have enough strength to drag 200 pounds of dead weight down the hallway and place him back into the shower. I always find cases like this to be very tragic. To have someone dead and another with the potential to either spend the rest of her life in prison or get the death penalty is an awful prospect. This case reminds me of Casey Anthony.story. I hope things turn out okay for everyone involved, it didn’t have to happen like this.

     • I think you bring up a good question.. why didn’t she just leave… and the answer is unbelievable to many on the outside… and that is that people (not just women) who are in abusive relationships have this amazing perpensity to push aside the bad and sometimes downright horrific and live for what is good… either out of some sense of dedication… she was getting something out of this relationship… sex if nothing else… or the idea of the relationship as it was… as it could be. And I have personally seen even facing physical, mental, and sexual abuse that astounds everyone around the victim, they stay. Eventually though everyone breaks… when pressured everyone finally snaps.

       • My sister was abused for 10 yrs by her boyfriend turnd husband and she stayd bc she lovd him and thought she cld change him….if she just loved him enough, gave him the love he never got from his parents…she cld change him!!! And crazy as it sounds he was a very good guy lol actually a sweetheart….but he wld switch into someone else….get in these moods and take his shit out on her a few times a yr…especially after a few drinks he wld snap and hit her etc….we didnt know either…not a clue!!! Never seen bruises or anything and she showed so much love to him all the time. We thought they were the perfect couple…she left after he punched my nephew in the head… That was the end!!! He is in therapy now and only has supervised visits.

         • Hi Ann,
           I am not sure if you saw my earlier post. I am a journalist from Australia and am interested in interviewing people who have followed the case closely and believe Jodi is innocent. It is for a feature article. I don’t have an ‘agenda’ for the story as such, and i am a senior journalist. You seem to have a very good grasp of the evidence, and also can relate to some aspects of Jodi’s life due to your sister’s experiences. Thanks, Ellen

121. I was on vacation in Phoenix when this trial caught my attention on the news,I dont know what it is,but I feel compelled to support Jodi,I understand that she admitted killing this man,but has her reasons of self defence.I do not believe that the prosecution is justified in asking for the death penalty as there has been more horrific murders comitted and with less consequences,I believe that the prosecutor is making a mockery of this and is intent on setting an example with Jodi.I hope Jodi will be found not guilty as no one should have to be dragged through the mud like she has been,my heart goes out to her.

122. I am genuinely intrigued because my heart tells me that she is guilty but I am trying to remain open minded. There are clearly many people here who believe her words so I am honestly and respectfully asking a few questions, not trolling! 🙂 I am curious as to what her 100% supporters are seeing that I am not.

     If she thought he was chasing her, why did she take the time to go into the closet, grab (and as of recently we learn un-holster) the gun, then leave the closet to find him? I realize it seems it would be a split second decision but if she was fearful for her life, why would she run back out of the closet, where she originally went for safety? My thought on this is that if she truly thought she was about to die, I think the natural reaction would be to stay in the closet with the gun. By leaving the closet with the gun, she was making herself very open to his attack. Staying in the closet would giver her a chance to prepare for him to come through the door. She would have had the advantage. By leaving, she opened herself up to him. I do realize how everyone will act differently but this is very peculiar to me.

     If she was defending herself and the gun shot rang out first, why is the shell on top of his blood only? This clearly suggests that some, if not all of the stabbing occurred before she shot him. Therefore, if she says that she remembers the gun going off, she should also remember stabbing him at least one time.

123. Hi Jessica 🙂 you need to take a look at the layout of the room. The closet has two doors. One leading to bathroom and one from bedroom hallway. She is saying she ran out of the bathroom through hallway door. Down the bedroom hallway and last second decided to go into the closet to get the gun. She felt that if she ran out the bedroom down the stairs to the locked front. Door he wld have got her. So, she went for closet and gun. Her plan was to grab gun, run into bathroom from closet entrance and lock the door. But, by the time she grabed the gun he was coming thro the closet door from hallway. So as she was running back into bathroom he was right behind her and when she turned around to face him in order to protect her self, he lunged at her and that’s when she said gun went off….now, he was shot in the frontal lobe and their is plenty of evidence to support that frontal lobe injurys are not immediatlely fatal, they can still have motor function, alertness, etc…but injury wld make them more aggressive!!! And then she goes blank….I believe he was on top of her and the knife was on the floor or counter….she grabbed the knife…stabbed him in the back….and just kept going and became very animalistic bc of survival mode….the MEDIA is not saying it bc it gives them an edge but there is a vast amount of filed cases of self defense where OVERKILL is involved….A women in Philidelphia was recently kidnapped and raped and she managed to stab her attacked 115 X….lest put it this way….if your in the fight for your life, what wld you do? Do u think you wld be able to STOP? Or wld u want to make SURE he was dead? Also, most of the killing took place in the HALLWAY of bedroom by bedroom door that leads to outside hallway….I believe she got away after stabbing him in the back and he chased her and she stabbed him again in that spot and did the rest of the stabs!!! And throat. That’s is where ALL the blood was found…then she dragged him back to bathroom which boggles me bc I’m 114 lbs and there is NO WAY I cld drag my fiancé who’s 200? No way in hell!! I’ve tried lol when he was past out and NO WAY….something in fishy about that!!! Also fishy is the throat cutting….that is a Morman ritual called Blood Atonement….oh and the bullet? His friends where in the bathroom so they cld have easily kicked it into the blood. Ihonest.y, I don’t think she has any idea of what happened….I think she doesn’t even remember the days before…my fiancé had a traumatic event happen to him and he doesn’t remember the day before or the days following….total blank!!!

124. Hello, first let me say that I am glad to see a site in support of Jodi. I have been following this trial from the beginning and find the constant berating of Jodi, by the In Session commentators, and the abuse from Juan Martinez simply unfair and very prejudicial. I have also looked at comments online and find them to be very mean-spirited and unintelligent. I have struggled with holing back my opinion until all testimony is completed and wish that others would do the same. At this point it is clear that Jodi is guilty of killing Travis however her claim of self defense is becoming more and more apparent to me. I am baffled as to why her defense team did not choose to use the insanity plea. In my opinion her mental make-up at the time of the offending act was such that, with respect to the criminality of her conduct, she substantially lacked capability to act rationally. She could not control her actions even though she understands her action was wrong.
     Given what has been learned about previous relationships and behavior in Jodi’s life it is unfortunate that no one recognized that she was at risk. Minor emotional upsets are as natural as the common cold however if upsets keep returning or get worse, as in Jodi’s life, it would have helped to recognize the signs that more serious problems may lie ahead. Perhaps the tragic events of today could have been avoided?
     Travis clearly played a role in this seriously dysfunctional relationship and for sure took advantage of Jodi’s vulnerability. This does not however justify killing him and that is just sad for everyone involved. To this point I do believe that Jodi feared for her life, at least in her mind, and just snapped. My opinion of self-defense is admittedly weak but will reserve judgment until all evidence is presented.
     My heart aches for Jodi, and Travis as well. Travis was indeed a sexual deviant hiding behind his faith dragging Jodi along with him. Jodi was indeed in crisis with no one to help her before she snapped and killed Travis. My hope is that lessons will be learned from this trial. Not only did Travis lose his life, Jodi did as well. She remains in my thoughts and prayers.

     • I am right where you are Eileen. Feel like I could have writeen your comments myself. As the trial went on I felt a bit less “supportive” I guess because of seeing the photos and it bafflies me that Jodi was not harmed more in this “attack”. I still question why temp insanity was not brought up. Still, tonight in watching “Dr. Drew” and Nancy and Jane I am a bit sickened by the panels of smiling “intelligent professionals” picking apart every single action this woman does as negative… she was uninterested because she had her head in his lap in a video of him telling a story? Are you serious? I know a lot of people who would be close to someone and not even pay attention to their stories after awhile and I personally do not think that tells anything! The other people in the room dont even seem interested in his story! they are turned away from Jodi as well as Travis! Ive dated a person that talked so much about his own life and told stories that I would have fallen asleep myself if he was going on about a story like that! According the beautiful smiling professonals(whom I do respect their level of education and I want to hear their opinions) but these individuals say her tone of voice is wrong, her expressions are wrong, she cant cry cause its fake, she cant smirk cause its cunning, her appearance is wrong, her gestures, it is appauling! Who are we to say how they would react in this situation on trial for her life? I feel like they are attacking that her blinking is wrong as well! Maybe she is blinking too much? Things Im sure happen in my life where I would be picked apart in terms of my reaction by these people! Then they say the jury is seeing the “holes” in her story and that is why they have 100+ questions…. to me it says they have doubt!!! cause there are so many questions!!! Its disgusting that not one professional appears objective and willing to let justice play out. The woman is convicted by HLN already and they have already decided her fate. Yes we all know its awful what happened to Travis but my God Jodi is also a human being and I think its pretty shitty that the girl cant even walk correctly to what should be respected news sources. Step back and present both sides of a story!

       • Hi L, your comments mirror my thoughts as well. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The commentators on In Session and HLN should be ashamed of themselves for the verbal abuse of Jodi as well as their disrespect for our judicial system. They have sunk to this classic negative maneuver simply for sensationalism and (in my opinion) ratings. They are officers of the court that should represent themselves as full-fledged partners that advocate for justice. They should respect Jodi’s right to a fair trial, keep their personal opinions to themselves and simply focus on the facts of this case without prejudice. Have you noticed that they now want to bring attention to what they think is a cold sore on Jodi? What does this have to do with anything?
         I do think the jury questions, for the most part, are very insightful and tell me that they are indeed paying attention. Love that Arizona allows for this! Based on this I do feel that Jodi is getting her opportunity for a fair trial. I also think that her defense team is doing a fantastic job with attempting to save her life. I am looking forward to testimony from the domestic violence experts and hope they are professional enough to withstand Juan Martinez’s abusive bullying approach.
         All in all, this is really a fascinating provocative case in spight of the unprofessional behavior of the commentators’. Look forward to hearing your thoughts.

125. I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but this came up in my Facebook feed and I couldn’t help but think of this case:

     “If you want justice, go to a whorehouse…if you wanna get f*cked, go to a courthouse.”

     • Disrespectful for sure!

     • Well it is the truth ! here in Alabama they had a big deal about the 10 commandments up on the wall ? Some Judge had to have it taken down that is DISRESPECTFUL you know why it was hurting the ATHEISTS Feelings GIVE ME A BREAK! this country was not built on Atheists feelings it had a foundation once that is crumbling now that is Disgraceful too me. I don’t preach to people but I sure don’t cry about all these other religions out there that I disagree with. I know you better believe in something tho in the end an a pretty good time before the end too.

126. I didn’t mean to be disrespectful. It made me think of this trial because in my opinion, Jodi is not getting a fair deal here. There definitely seems to be a bias against her….that’s my opinion and I’m entitled to it.

     • Ur fine lollll it wasn’t disrespectfu…. its the blatant truth!!!

       • Thanks Ann! 🙂

     • Hey Jenny, I was not referring to you being disrespectful just the quotes!

127. Hi,
     I’m an Australian journalist and while I have not been covering it, I’m interested in learning more about it for a feature article I’m writing. I’d also like to talk to the creator of this site as well as any supporters who can add value to my story. Is there anyway out there who can relate to Jodi. Is there anyway out there who is the same age, comes from a simliar background, or is a mum who has followed the case closely. I would love to hear from you.
     Thanks for your time, Ellen

128. Bravo to Jodi for her incredible strength! I hope she is holding up as well as she appears on the stand; confident and intelligent. I am enraged that JA has been in a jail cell since 2008. I wish I lived in Arizona, I would try to visit her. I refuse to watch Jane Velez-Mitchell and Nancy Grace any longer – the biased “reporting” of this case is unbelievable. It’s all about “big bad Jodi” and they have NEVER had anyone on Jodi’s side interviewed except for B. Carr (and if I read correctly this website says he’s a phony). Enough is enough. When Jodi cries on the stand I cry with her. At the very least she needs support from TRUE friends and people who believe in her. You guys/gals (lol) at Team Jodi are awesome! Thank you for being available to us folks who according to the news coverage are the minority. If there is a way I can become a pen pal of Jodi’s please let me know. I’d be honored.

129. Hi,
     As I mentioned earlier i’m an Australian journalist and I’m writing a feature article about Jodi’s case. I need to talk to Jodi’s supporters – could the moderator of this forum get in touch with me please, or the person who started this cause? It would be greatly appreciated. thanks, Ellen

     • @Ellen
       “Is there ANYWAY out there who can relate to Jodi. Is there ANYWAY out there who is the same age, comes from a simliar background, or is a mum who has followed the case closely.”

       Not to be critical but since your a journalist, don’t you mean “anybody” or “anyone” instead of “anyhow”? I’ve never seen the word “anyhow” used in a sentence in such a way. But then again i failed to graduate from high school 😀

       As for the trial, i feel for Jodi too. 16 days on the stand fielding a barrage of questions has to take a tole mentally and emotionally. According to the “experts” on HLN they believe its possible that something big is going to happen, such as 1 of her former boyfriends, Matthew McCartney (i think is the correct one) is going to take the stand and betray her. Speculation i would think, but i guess we’ll find out in the weeks to come. Hang in there Jodi, hopefully there’s at least 1 jury member who does not believe in the premeditation theory.

       • Ellen i apologize if you were offended by my comment, that wasn’t my intention. There’s just so many bot thingys floating around the web and at first glance i thought maybe you were one. Sorry 🙂

         • Jinx, your comment was justified given the fact that Ellen claims to be a journalist from Australia and you should not apologize. This site is for supporters of Jodi and, speaking for myself, I am so not interested in any further media, print or otherwise, that will only further biased opinion. Don’t take the time to respond to media and stay on point with your posts. Your opinion is important to Jodi supporters and should not be shared with media of any kind. Best!

       • Hi Jinx,
         That was a typo. I do apologize. You obviously know your grammar v well. I have been a journalist for almost 20 years and I am genuine. I don’t have an agenda with the story at all. Would you be happy to email me at my personal account to discuss further. Thanks, Ellen

130. I just have a couple of final thoughts for the day about the trial. I think it is important to stand back away from all of the smoke filled forest and look at the hard facts about the prosecution’s case and all of the array of questions asked by the jury. The focus seems to be on the lies that were told to police and to interviewers before the trial. These have been explained over and over again. The real focus should be on whether or not the prosecution can PROVE that Jodi lied DURING her testimony. So far, everything Jodi has said is consistent and her explanation of the events follows a logical progression. Re-hashing lies that Jodi has admitted to has no purpose in determining guilt or lack of guilt. Remember that the burden of proof still rests on the shoulders of the prosecution to prove that Jodi is lying in court during her testimony. The prosecution has to prove that the events that occurred could NOT have happened the way Jodi says they did. Even if the jurors FEEL that Jodi is lying, the jurors are bound by law to decide the case based on EVIDENCE. There is no evidence that Jodi is lying about the events of the incident.

     The jury has a lot of questions about Jodi’s ability to remember many detailed facts but also Jodi’s lack of memory about much of her defense related to the knife. This is a good time to bring in the psychological expert to explain it to the jury. Then the logic may start to solidify in their minds. The bottom line should always be that if it is possible that the events COULD have happened the way Jodi says they happened and if the prosecution CAN NOT disprove the explanation, then there should be reasonable doubt. That is the way the law is supposed to work. Jodi should be set free.

     I will close by saying that I have taken interest in this case as a third party looking at the facts. I don’t know Jodi or Travis or anyone that they have known. If I thought Jodi was guilty, I would be on the other side fighting for justice. Instead I am on Jodi’s side fighting for justice. War is war. I refuse to stand by quietly while the social media in this country attempts to undermine the justice that many people before us gave their lives to establish. I will know that justice prevails when I see Jodi walk out of that courtroom a free person.

     • Did anybody catch the body language expert on Dr. Drew (i think its was) who said that anybody beginning a sentence with the word “Well” is lying?

       Welllll, if that’s true, Jodi obviously premeditated this entire murder 🙂

       • WELL HELL I SECOND THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!

         Well Well if that is TRUE than I am a BIG FAT LIAR!

       • What next? Where do these so-called experts come up with this kind of nonsense? I often start my sentence with “well”…..ugh, I refuse point blank to watch these awful parasites.

       • Well…I would say that body language is not EVIDENCE. Well… what would you say? Well…I think the media is duking it out for ratings and will come up with as much horsecrap as possible to keep people watching. Well…I think it will come down to the lack of evidence on the part of the prosecution who has the burden of proof to a very high standard. Well… I think that we all have lied about something and that fact doesn’t mean that we all are going to continually lie about everything else. So, previous lies are no EVIDENCE that the testimony is false. When the experts testify, the entire memory loss issue will be explained. I challenge anyone who reads this blog to go out and do a web search on stress and memory loss. You will find volumes of scientific evidence to support Jodi’s answers as to why Jodi doesn’t remember. It is ridiculous that anyone would ask Jodi why she cannot remember. Jodi is the victim or patient in this scenario. The psychologists are the people to ask and they can provide tons of scientific evidence to support Jodi’s lack of memory.

         I am fed up with them asking questions about whether or not Jodi enjoyed the sexual times with Travis. I would argue that Jodi has never had a healthy sexual experience in her entire life and certainly not with a real man who understands how to treat a lady, certainly not Travis! Abused people go from one abusive relationship to the next until they get professional help and can understand the forces that constantly drive them back into these destructive relationships. We need an expert to explain that to the jury. Then they may understand that a person cannot just walk away from the abuse. The experts can explain why a person can become a willing participant in the abusive conduct.

         I will close as always by saying I look forward to the day that Jodi is free.

     • David, as I read your comments I must respectfully disagree with you. I too am in support of Jodi but for very different reasons. By the very fact that Jodi admits to several lies she has jeopardized trust in everything she says going forward. I believe the questions from the jury support this. Remember that this is a death penalty case and the jury is expected to do their due diligence. I think the questions are an attempt to determine truth in her testimony. Frankly, she should NEVER have lied in the first place or put on the facade that she had nothing to do with killing Travis. If she had done this from the beginning she may be in a better position to prove abuse and/or self-defense. The fact is that she did lie and present herself to the media in a way that she certainly must now regret.
       Let me make it clear that I believe Travis played a major role in this dysfunctional relationship hiding behind his faith dragging Jodi along with him and shame on him.This does not however justify killing him and I am very surprised to read that you think she should be set free. Do you really mean that? If so, why? We should all continue to support Jodi’s right to a fair trial and not get lost in the bad inappropriate behavior of Juan Martinz or the “television” commentators. I do feel that the jury is trying to respect Jodi’s rights and will come to the right conclusion. While I do not think she should get the death penalty I do believe she needs to be held accountable for her actions whether domestic violence played a role or not. She did have the opportunity to get away when he was no longer a threat to her but stabbed him 29 times before killing him. Nothing justifies that!
       My hope is that she gets the help she needs and can make the best of what the futer holds for her. Being set free will do nothing for her well-being. Again I make these comments with the utmost respect to yours.

131. As far as content, organization, and ease in navigating, jodiariasisinnocent.com is one of the best websites! Whoever did this website rocks. I know it’s wordpress; but such stuff still can be difficult to make so surfers can actually use it well.

     I’m following the trial very closely, and I’m always looking for more information. So I was especially impressed with this site’s video pages and their consistency. As long as this trial has been going – EVERY single video, well organized and easy to locate.

     From one wordpress user to another – Thumbs Up on this blogsite!

132. I had to come to this site again and post because yesterday’s ridiculous rantings from the prosecutor really got me hot under the collar. When he was going on and on and on and on about the SUPPOSED 3 gas cans and showed Jodi’s bank statements which had 3 charges for gas in Utah I wanted to jump through the television and grab his jacket and say “Did you ever think of the possibility that the $19.65 that was charged on her card was for soda, snacks, gum, maxi pads, or anything else that could have been bought OTHER than gas?” The charge simply said the name of the proprietor and the amount – NOWHERE did it say ‘GAS”. I was incensed. His relentless stupidity about “Would it surprise you if Walmart has no record whatsoever of the refund?” was grating my nerves. Apparently he doesn’t shop at Walmart; if he did he would know the kind of employees that work there and there are NO rocket scientists; paperwork CAN get lost. Even so, Jodi was strong, articulate and amazing dealing with the little man. Thank you everyone associated with this site for being a sounding board and place to feel at home. 🙂

133. I was reading one of Travis’ blogs that came up when I googled his name. Has it been brought up in court that he was an abused child? It is what he used in his motivational speeches—how both his parents were drug addicts and his childhood sounded really awful. I have heard that children that go thru this often have problems as an adult and was just wondering if this had been brought up or anyone had addressed it.

134. Janeen, I agree with you
     First of all, you can buy other items. and some gas stations do not itemize the receip t

     Next, and more importantly, hoping Jodi’s lawyer reads this blog. All he has to do it get the manager of the WalMart on the stand Nd ask how many associates were let.go.over the course of the year for theft. I used to manage retail. The theft would occur with cash transactions.

     All the person has to do is open the drawer, hand her the cash as her refund. If the associate steals a few nicks at a time. It looks lime human error. Not theft.

     What they could also do is get.the store’s inventory reports. See if the gas cans are off. But anyone who works retail can tell you. And would have to swear to it on rhe stand that the paperwork at the end of the day shows what went through the register. As input by an associate. It is not a true reDing of what left the store or was returnex to the store, especially a return done with cash!!

     I hope her lawyer reads this!!!

135. That is what I mean by the press and news media. They are reading into EVERYTHING that Jodi is lying still and EVERYTHING she does is wrong. Listen to them really, she is lying if she says “well” before her sentence? She is lying if she pauses?, she is lying if her eyes dart down and not up?, she is trying to appear like a preteen?, she is faking crying?, she is smirking and has no feeling?, she is lowering her chair to appear smaller?, she is covering her face to hide that she doesnt have tears? (I am NOT saying this it is my example of how ridiculous the media is on picking apart this woman!). Regardless of what I think about her lying in the past and other questions such as her lack of injuries, WHY IS THERE NO ONE SAYING, “no tears were going down her chin (I saw them)”, She is on trial for her life and who would give a shit about makeup and looking pretty? She is at times appearing okay (as they say arrogant) cause she MUST answer to things and get through this, she is looking down cause this was horrible and she feels it, maybe she is lowering the chair cause its not comfortable high (I have done this in meetings). There is NOT ONE professional challenging these statement and rather they all smile and laugh like this is a big party and hey they are going to go home to their great lives and want a woman dead who just MAY HAVE BEEN abused and driven to defend her life! It is making me ill. I just dont get why there is not one professional on these commentary shows questioning why they are smiling and appear so happy as they bash her? And God forbid one of them (defense attorneys if there is one) tries to defend her they are cut off on audio. What the hell is going on? Its like she is being stoned and it again regardless if I myself have questions, the tactics in doing this and not presenting both sides of this is making me route that the defense prevails, attorneys should be supporting a fair trial no matter if they are defense or prosecution.

     • It’s the principle of she’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t…….. If she cries she’s faking it, if she doesn’t she’s a heartless, coldblooded murderer…..

       The video that Drew Pinsky showed on his show was a prime example. In it Jodi was briefly slumped on Travis’ lap, then she removed his arm and rubbed her eyes and looked uninterested in his story – who knows how many times she had heard it before?

       HLN interpretation: Jodi is sexually kittenish, possessive of Travis, unempathic about his “near death” story, and detached from everyone else there. She was cold towards Travis by removing his arm (otherwise she is always “clingy”.)

       Alternative interpretation: Jodi was sleepy – another guy in the video was also rubbing his eyes and also seemed barely interested in Travis’ speech. Jodi didn’t seem to have any make-up on which suggests the film was made at the end of a long day of socializing – everyone has a limit.

       Also, all the hype about this “terrible” experience Travis was claiming (in the video) to have had and Jodi’s insensitivity was suspiciously unaccompanied by any information about when the supposed gun hold-up happened, where it happened, how many others were involved, when it happened, if they ever caught the gunman/gunmen and if Travis had to testify in court. The whole thing was decidedly suspect. Jodi’s indifferent response suggested that perhaps it wasn’t true. No-one else appeared to be responding with any exclamations of horror or sympathy either, suggesting that everyone knew it was all a tall tale, possibly a game even….who knows.

       The filming also was very reminiscent of the Mitt Romney “47%” dinner film which was done secretly, and the focus of the film seemed to be Jodi Why wasn’t the filmer directly in front of Travis, or why did we hear no comments from the filmer as one would expect if it was done openly.

       Why is there no other mention anywhere else of Travis’ “near-death” experience? Dr Drew interestingly didn’t ask the couple who supplied the video anything about Travis’ story – all comments were drected at maligning Jodi.

       • Bwahaaaaaa it was so Ridiculous what they were saying….I mean REALLY…..my brother was in a bad car accident where he almost died and I don’t get all bright eyed and bushy tailed when he talks about it….I actually past out on a plane when he was telling the person next to us only a few myths after it happened lollll so stupid!!! Btw I loved his “friend” that was Clairvoyant lmaoooooooo!!!! I can’t even!!!

     • Amen to this post!

136. Hello,
     Pitchforks is a recently-created blog, started specifically to confront the issues you are raising here. So far there are 4 articles, 3 of which concern the Jodi Arias trial. The 4th is about Casey’s appearance at court this week. We would be glad for people from here to come on board as subscribers/followers so they can be alerted to new posts and post their responses and thoughts, positive or negative. We will respect your privacy and keep your emails private and only respond to you using your chosen ID.
     There is mention elsewhere that there exists documented evidence that Travis Alexander might have had an arrest record for violence. If anyone can vouch for this and knows of a reliable source for the information, we would appreciate being pointed in the right direction.
     Thanks, and we hope some of you come and brainstorm at Pitchforks.

137. So hello, I just found this site! Can everyone fill me in! I know that there was No Court today! Geeze, not til Wednesday! Just wanted to see what everyone thinks!

138. Why didn’t they look into how Travis was treated by his Mother and how his Dad split due to drugs.
     His own words (blog/myspace)

     Physical abuse as a child could be a trigger for future abuse towards others.
     Curious as to why this has not been approached in court.

     The body language “expert” on Dr. Drew…
     Jodi A was saying “well” because Mr. Martinez was repeating it non stop for 4 days straight.
     No mystery.

139. Hello everyone. Another post from just little ole’ me. Another instance that raises reasonable doubt: how could Jodi get from Travis’ room which was a bloody mess through the hall, down the stairs, out the front door and into her car WITHOUT leaving any drop of blood anywhere? There were “Kool-Aid” stains on the front and back seats of the rental car – and she says she washed her BLOODIED hands with bottled water at/in the desert. If she had blood on her hands did it instantaneously dry before she left his bedroom?????? Seriously? Not ONE drop on the stairs? And we are also supposed to be believe that his roommates NEVER smelled anything? Never checked on him before the day they called the police? Jodi SUPPOSEDLY had the time to do a load of wash (and as far as I know SHE NEVER LEFT A FINGERPRINT ON THE WASHER OR DRYER), move the sheets to the dryer so she could wash some clothes/towels with the camera, and then clean herself up enough so she could get out of the house without leaving a drop of blood but forgot to clean her hands??????? It’s called REASONABLE DOUBT. So many of the posters on this site are posting incredibly wonderful posts.

     HLN is not headline news anymore. From J. Mitchell, N. Grace, V. Politan, “Dr.” Drew, and all of their so-called “expert panels” – each and every one of them pick Jodi apart from the way she wears her hair, what she is wearing, the color of her glasses, how high her chair is in relation to J. Willmott’s, how she looks down instead of up, how she smirks when she is crying (which is NOT a smirk – her mouth is open while she is crying and they say she’s smiling which really aggravates me), if she blows her nose with the tissue instead of wipes her eyes, I could go on and on. They even have “body language experts” dissecting her hand movements and whether it shows she’s nervous…The woman is on trial for capital murder and facing a possible death penalty sentence – who WOULDN’T be nervous??????

     HLN is now the video version of the Star, the Enquirer, the Globe, In Touch, etc. They continue to vilify her and her every single word, movement, utterance. And they NEVER say a negative word about the Alexander family sitting there with their smirks and eye rolls and hatred-filled stares. The epitome of sensationalism.

     Thank God for all of you and the administration of this website. At least the group of us show some sanity.

     Jodi has thousands if not millions of supporters. I hope she gets to see/hear about each and every supportive post that is a part of this website. Sometimes just a few words from a stranger makes all the difference in the world.

     Jodi, you are supported, you have many people on your side and in your corner. I hope we make a difference for you.

     • Janeen, your comments are right on. HLN and In Session commentators’ are nothing but a big disappointment. I do believe that there is in fact a silent majority that agree with this and hope that they find this site to voice opinion. Kudos to this sit and the followers for allowing intelligent conversation free of biased opinions, at least for the most part. Although we all know Jodi is in fact guilty of killing Travis we also recognize the unfortunate reality of her insecurity and how unprepared she is to the consequences.
       I am so baffled as to why her defense team did not choose to use the insanity defense. I am also disturbed as to why her family failed to recognize how serious her issues were to her self being. Travis admittedly did but chose to ignore them in order to satisfy his own sexual deviancy. This unfortunately cost him his life and there is nothing to justify this.
       My hope is that lessons will be learned from this case or at best recognition of dysfunctional behavior and the consequences. I have said this before and will say it again, No one wins in this case and my heart aches for both Jodi and Travis. We should all pay attention to those around to devastation for sure. I too hope our support foer Jodi makes a difference in her well-being!

       • They are. I wish someone would create a tv channel where high profile trials are presented objectively with opinions from both sides. And leave out the body language experts and celebrity shrinks and NG type shows too.

         • JC, so what can we do now to show sincere support for Jodi? She is likely, in my opinion, to be found guilty of at minimum second degree murder. What if anything can we do to continue to support her and help to secure her well-being as she makes amend for this horrific tragedy? I may be putting the cart before the horse but that does not minimize the need to support Jodi whatever the outcome. Your thoughts?

         • Hi Admin,
           Not sure if you saw my post from last week. I’m an Australian journalist, based in New York. I was interested in talking to the creator of the site or moderator as part of my story. Would you be willing to discuss or should I simply give up now? my email is ellenconnolly1@gmail.com. you can check my linkedin profile etc for legitimacy. I am also the author of a true crime book.
           Thanks for your time, Ellen

         • They used to have one. It was called Court TV- It used to be really objective
           , but now we have idiots like NG who’ve turned justice into a hate entertainment reality show.

140. …

     • What are you talking about Barrett that is for Jodi Haters ? I watched that one time an reported it. They made it for that Bryan Carr which was stated on this site he is not even friends with Jodi. So I am confused why you would ask us to be spectators of hatred for Jodi?

       • I dont know what was said butI feel like I am a spectator of hatred for Jodi everyday and yet because I want to see her trial I tend to watch those HLN shows but it is just to the point of total absurdity that every professional on them just smiles and knodds and they are all in agreement with one another picking apart every single aspect of this woman. That whole thing about the video of him talking about a near death experience, there was no fear in Travis’s voice…. no real emotion but rather it was like entertainment the way he was saying it and wouldnt he have had fear in his voice talking about such trauma as all the attorneys and experts say….but that of course was not discussed, and neither was the fact that the two other ppl in the vid appear totally uninterested as well and you dont hear voices from the 20 others in the room? hmmm strange. Personally that was a huge waste of time to me to show and comments that she is taking his arm off her so she is uncaring about him? but if she puts his arm on her she is clingy? Im telling you picking someone apart every single action and move they make and how they look is just ill by people who are respected to be professionals and should be more objective that life is not so black and white and no everyone behaves the same in situations. I keep waiting for a professional to answer “NO I DISAGREE…. rather than “I totally agree with you Nancy….” I keep waiting… its sad that they all have jumped on the bash Jodi bandwagon. I wonder if one of them every made even a small mistake in their lives and how they would feel if no matter what they did they were faced with, “you have no remorse!” No matter what they said or how they acted, again it makes me ill our most educated have decided this case and the penalty and its not okay to do that before the Jury has!

         • While watching TA in that video of him recounting the story of the gun to his head, i couldn’t help but to think it was all bullshit. Just the way he told it, it sounded as though he was making it up as he went along and ended it very abruptly because either no-one was buying it or they were bored by it. That’s how it came off to me anyways, i’m sure some would disagree (especially the witch hunters on HLN) 🙂 Of all the sites i’ve checked related to this case, we really are a minority here and i’m sure glad i found this place and am pleased to thank the creator for providing us all with a place to vent our feelings and ideas about this case. Also to the fella over on pitchfork, nice job on the article, it was an interesting read.

           and…

           Wellllll Rhonda, i knew you were a big fat liar 10 years ago 😉 lol (that’s a joke… for those who don’t know)

           • haha Jinx !!

             I agree on the video too felt dramatized to me also got to be the center of attention we all know people like that they are very irritating to me but I guess some people are drawn into them? like sheep baaaaaaaa

141. I hope this isn’t construed as being a “hater” – but how can you have a web site saying she is innocent, when she admitted in court under oath that she killed him? I must be missing something.

     • Innocent of the charges murder 1, felony murder.

     • If somoone kills another in self defense, they are considered innocent of murder. Many people do not spend any time in jail for defending their lives even if unfortunately they had to kill another person to live. Jodi is being charged with “murder” so this site is saying she is innocent of the charge. Honestly I have a rather neutral stance on this case because I feel Jodi was abused in ways and mostly those seem to be emotional, still some of the facts of aspects of this case concern me. I would have to really POUR over evidence as a juror to come to a conclusion on my decision because much of me supports her and some of me truly questions what happened here and the justice in if what occurred was reasonable… meaning was the least amt of force used. I believe there was abuse but someone snapping and losing control because of anger from abuse is not really the same as self defense to me. I can understand Jodi in many ways and perhaps she lacked the knowledge about self defense as many others do (hence asking how she could be innocent) and felt she had no choice but to lie, im sure it was a horror for her for what happened and I do not think this was pre-meditated. My understanding is the jury could convict on a lesser charge such as manslaughter or murder 2 (same thing?) I hope Jodi comes to peace with things. Sad for both of them and wish they had gotton some help to see they were not good together. I dont think either were awful terrible people, just let sex color things too much and lost sight of what was really important in a relationship. Its okay to not be good with someone and it doesnt mean your not worthy.

       • TO clarify Id say I support she is not guilty of this exact charge of “Pre-meditated” murder. It concerns me if the jury is not forced to be away from the media but that coverage is literally “sickening” how all the shows have this girl convicted already and keep saying she is lying about everything… really? How the hell do they really know that? That is their “opinion” it is not a FACT that she is lying now! The hatred of her is disgusting on national television and creating a very cruel mindset in the public. Im not sure where the prosecuters all get off saying she is still lying and how every single solitary aspect of her mannuerisms are indicative of that. Its literally outrageous to me and that is what actually upsets me the most is they believe their opinions are facts and there is no “gray” area here. I watched the other night and it seemed a defense attorney that was on from FL I think seemed even afraid to defend her because of this! This is not a blatent case of murder 1 to me at all.

142. Just wanted to say, I am in awe of the work,research and effort you guys are putting into this case,keep up the good work, from a supporter way over in Israel.

143. I am so afraid Jodi is going to be in prison or worse yet die. She is such and amazing artist, it is a shame she got mixed up with a using, lieing, self promoting man. I was abused as well. Physically and verbally. I would much rather have the crap beat out of me than be emotionally abused. She snapped. When you snap, you black out. She cannot help that. As a Phsycologist, it is proven to be a self defense mechanism
     built inside each person. The body and mind try to prevent the person from having to relive the situation over and over. By the shear violence alone, it is obvious she was scrared to death, how else could she have over powered such a muscular man. It is called the fight or flight, and you become super human. She was scared to death of him. Even during sex, that is why she constantly used KY> if you are truly attracted to someone, you have self lubrication, and do not need KY. And for him to always want to do it anally, sends other signals as well. Maybe his room mates were more than room mates. The fact that he said on tape he wanted to tie her to a tree, and …who says that kind of stuff except a social devient. Why cant the world wake up and see that. Yes people lie all the time to their “church” but he lied daily to his friends as well, about being a virgin. He lied to the Church. He lied to his friends. He lied to Jodi. So who else is the liar here. Jodi lied to save her own life. He lied for fun.

     • Klea Green
       OMGosh, your comment is exactly how i feel and what I believe thank you. Plus she did the anal to please him. It must have really hurt. The fact he said, in his own words. You know when you are miserable I have to Rape you. He was disgusting.

     • Klea, please read the two articles posted below in their own post. I think you would relate to them.

       One is about the notion that Jodi Arias has undermined the issue of physical abuse for women, and the other is about lying in the Mormon church and how it might have had a strong influence in the aftermath of Alexander’s death, but perhaps for Alexander himself in his delaings with Jodi.

       It would be great to receive your comments too:

       http://babelbooth.com/2013/02/21/physical-abuse-of-women-undermined-issue/

       http://babelbooth.com/2013/03/04/lying-for-the-lord-a-conveniently-ignored-phenomenon/

144. Physical Abuse of Women: “Undermined” Issue

     There has been much ado these past 2 weeks among women bloggers that Jodi Arias, who is being tried for the killing of her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander, has somehow ”insulted” and undermined abused women by claiming that Alexander was physically abusive, and that she killed him in self-defense…………

     http://babelbooth.com/2013/02/21/physical-abuse-of-women-undermined-issue/

145. Lying “for the Lord”: a Conveniently Ignored Phenomenon

     ………………There is much talk of Arias’ lying during the investigative period, most of which she has herself conceded at trial, but conveniently ignored in the defendant-condemning tabloid and TV “bombshell” media is that of the Mormon concept of “Lying for the Lord”, the church-endorsed practice of lying to protect the image of the Mormon religion, and its members. For Mormons, loyalty to church and preservation of its best interests and public image override the moral value of honesty. Alexander is a proven liar with regard to preserving his own reputation, his role within the church, and the future possibility of his becoming a fully-fledged married role model and representative of that community.

     http://babelbooth.com/2013/03/04/lying-for-the-lord-a-conveniently-ignored-phenomenon/

146. Hello fellow Jodi supporter friends,
     Just got home from work and watched the update of today’s trial events. As I am sure you would agree, this trial is complex, complicated and sometimes hard to comprehend, but it’s still fascinating every step of the way.
     As much as I have little respect for Juan Martinez’s bully approach, using psychological control and verbal insults to put himself in control, his intense questioning will hopefully contain information that is viable and will not exclude certain points of view based on Jodi’s response. After watching the events of today, I feel that Jodi is faltering under intense pressure leaving facts unexplained that make her vulnerable to the jury.
     While I reserve personal judgment until all testimony is completed I do at this point have an opinion and am interested in feedback from other Jodi supporters. First, I find it almost impossible that Jodi given her physical stature, although perhaps having the mental capacity to kill due to constant domestic abuse, was able to shoot, stab , slit Travis’s throat, drag him around the bedroom and ultimately put him back in the shower. My opinion, not the most popular for sure, is that she simply could not have done this alone and feel that this theory should be investigated further. It has already been established that the subject of loyalty is paramount and influential in Jodi’s life. I feel that her personal structure of loyalty should be cause for pause and looked at more closely to determine if she did this heinous crime on her own.
     Interested in thoughts from others.

147. I think Jodi has held her ground really well. Sometimes she’s unable to answer JM’s questions due to the way he orchestrates them and trys to manipulate Jodi into simply answering yes/no, which she points out that she cannot answer them because of the wording he has used. Nurmi objected several times claiming them to be compound questions, which i agree with, i wouldn’t answer yes or no to them either due to the way he twists them around, he’s rather sly in his wording.

     I had to laugh at the debut of the new HLN program “After Dark” hosted by Vinnie Politan, Ryan Smith, Nancy Grace, Jane Velez-Mitchell, Dr. Drew & Joey Jackson. What a farce! imagine “their” jury ALL finding Jodi guilty, these people are milking this case for all it’s worth, and all at the expense of Jodi. I find it absolutely disgusting how all these experts trash talk and mock everything Jodi does or says and this new show is crossing way over the line. They even had judge Joe Brown via satellite phone or whatever to offer his opinion and you could tell he thought this mock jury crap was a dumb lol. These HLN experts are like some kind of sacrificial cult who can’t wait to get their wish and see Jodi given the death penalty. One would think “experts” would analyze the case objectively and not condemn the accused before it’s all said and done. Whatever happened to “innocent until proven guilty”. All i can say is the citizens of the united states are lucky all these above mentioned experts are no longer actively practicing law 😀 (not sure about smiley Joe if he’s still active or not and i realize Drew never did practice law). Keep on fighting Jodi your not alone!!!

148. Thank you so much for this site! I don’t have cable TV so this site helps me keep up to date with what’s going on. I have to admit I at first thought Jodi was a guilty monster, then I started reading more about the case and was on the fence. What scared me was I could so relate with her and idolized her for doing something to an abuser I’ve only dreamed of doing. I’m now definitely pro Jodi, although, I still have my doubts about her being physically abused. I still don’t want to see her spend much more time behind bars, she was mentally abused for sure and that’s far worse than physical abuse. Thanks again for this site!

149. Is there any way I can be a pen pal to Jodi?

150. Can someone please explain to me why the defense isn’t using the much simpler diagnosis of Diassociatve Amnesia? Point blank, it’s amnesia caused by a traumatic event!! Doesn’t make sense to me that they wouldn’t use this???

151. What you are doing is awesome. After seeing show after show bash, humiliate and slander Jodi its good to see another biew on this bizarre case. I say bizarre because I have never seen anyone take the stand for what seemed like 2 months and have to answer a bazellion questions and then more from the jury. While, I do not think she is completely innocent, I do feel that she is being overcharged and I cannot believe the death penalty is on the table. Manslaughter, I could see but the Death Penalty? Seriously?That to me is insane. The media portrays her as evil and compare her to Casey Anthony. I think this is their vengence for Casey Anthony getting off and they have villified her to no end. Meanwhile, TA is the All American boy. Bullshit!!!! This makes me want her to stick it to the media and watch that Nancy Grace, stumble on her words.

     • Ohhh Wow breaking news…. Jodi did a handstand while in custody. Give me a freaking break. Maybe if she wasnt in there for hours, she wouldnt have to entertain herself. I’m sure she was bored as shit, while fat ass Flores was in the back eating donuts. Give me a break. This is breaking News? I’m sure Nancy Grace will use this as her smoking gun…..because im sure that People that do handstands deserve the death penalty. The media coverage of this trial is a joke.

       • The handstand was a yoga pose. Who doesnt talk to themselves? She was singing about “memory”. Could have been frustrated due to the memory block.

       • I really think she was set up. What HLN isnt saying is HOW LONG she was in that room. Had jodi been just sitting there, they would release it and say she looked cold etc etc. If she was crying, they would say she is full of guilt. Being arrested for first degree murder is not a normal thing and to expect people to act normal in abnormal situations makes little sense to me. I think her behavior shows exactly what Dr. Samuels was talking about. In my opinion, the most telling part was her singing about memory! she couldn’t remember. I doubt that song choice wan’t coincidental.

         • Wow, I didnt see that part. So, if she was singing about memory, that is why the prosecution didn’t want to use it. Hmmmm, funny HLN didnt mention that. I mean I realize they pull this crap for ratings but at least throw in a few impartial guests. They’re like vultures trying to pick her apart. I see nothing wrong with trying to loosen up after sitting in a seat for lord knows how long and as far as talking to herself, HLN would hate to see me alone in my car. lol. I think there is more to this story too. Usually, 2 methods of weapons would mean 2 killers. Either way there is so much reasonable doubt.

152. …

     • We know and it was addressed on this site with a statement by the family. Take care.

153. Pitchforks New Post

     Still in the Dark After Dark: “Pathological” Lying About The Gun(s)

     http://babelbooth.com/2013/03/15/still-in-the-dark-after-dark-pathological-lying-about-the-guns/

154. Couldnt believe the prosecutor was screaming at the shrink! To the point that the defense had to say something in open court? The lynch mob is getting worse… I do mental health type work and it rather common to lend someone some kind of assistance that you believe is suffering from anything EVEN IF YOU are being objective in your evaluation, but through the course that eval coming to a conclusion that they are suffering… the shrink told the defense and it was their job to get her therapuetic treatment it needed that was what I got from him but to do nothing could be constued as unethical as well in my book. Trying to make the shrink look like hes unprofessional does not in book mean he is unqualified and I dont think he was unprofessional. You develop an opinion through evaluation! And This after dark show is out of hand too, its like some circus and entertainment and not news! I get they think she is guilty but is this “anything goes to win?” And win what? wint a death penalty? Pretty ill to be celebrating over that! (Im not even expressing my opinion on the guilt, Im more nerved at the efforts they go to in order to make sure its not a fair trial… like that is gonna work?? Im sure the jury are made of intelligent people who will take it all in and make their decision. Yelling and harassing anything that sees anything in Jodi that she is not a monster is simply wrong, I myself said “chill out!” watching it,

     • Its out of hand I’ve actually stoped watching jane and nacy and drew. And the fact that their looking soo deeep into these new videos too is just redic lol helloooo she was wacked out. She killed someone she knew and cared about three weeks before. If she didn’t act bizarre I wld think she was a cold blooded killer.Bit the fact that she ddoesn’t act rational, says it all. I’m a ceetified behavioral therapist and my spexiality is helping people deal with streasful events and this girl has ptsd written all iver the place. Her memory loss…disasociative amnesia. Very very normal after traumatic event

       • I agree,the mockery and Jodi is guilty attitude has got to stop.My god,they want to execute this young woman at all costs.Jane,nancy and drew dont give a sh#t about her,its all for the sensationalized ratings.I have watched this trial and Jodi is getting railroaded,I believe the jury is tainted by all the media circus,the judge is against her and you have a raving lunatic treating her like a pos.Nobody cares about how she feels,I am sure that she is sick to her stomach and regrets what has happened.My heart goes out to her,I believe in her and I dont think she is getting a fair trial.It is so sad to see that the human race has degenerated into a pack of revengeful fools that are just thirsting to puy MS Arias to death,why have a trial,the concensus from the majority has condemed her,so much for the statement of innocent till proven guilty,old west justice is no longer,we are suppose to be a civilized nation.I dont agree with the death penalty as it does nothing for the victim and killing the accused solves nothing.One persons life has already been extinguished,lets not make a mistake and extinguish the life of a beautiful intelligent young lady. Dont get me wrong,she has admitted to killing TA in self defense,two wrongs do not make a right,I am truley sorry for TAS family too,nobody deseves to die.I hope Jodi will walk free soon and lead a productive life.

155. SJ, I read your comments on trial day #34. You are so right. You are right that those of us on this site who support Jodi do not have to resort to evil threats and wishes of illnesses to make our points. The other camp has no evidence to base their accusations so they have to waller in their own squaller. The HLN ers are having bogus fake trials on air with fake juries. I question the ethics of these people who pretend to support our laws which state that EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty in a REAL court of law. HLN’s bogus court and their attorneys should be sanctioned for ethical violations.

     As always, I am looking forward to the day that Jodi is a free person.

     • Oh I know..you can’t talk to those people. They act like crazed maniacs. If you mention you think jodi might be innocent they just go off. It’s rather odd.

156. I guess it takes high profile cases such as this one to create work for all these “out of the lime light has beens” and all of their friends who they bring on as guests for these tv shows. Nancy DisGrace leads the pack in this group of witch hunters. The advertisement for her show, has her saying “she loves her job because it allows her to make a difference” or something along those lines. She portrays herself as some kind of hero doing the world a great justice, i hope when she’s 70 and looks back at her career she see’s how disgusting her and her gang of vultures were, i don’t know how she could look back and feel proud of what she’s done. If character assassination, belittling, mocking, and acting like a complete idiot is something to be proud of then i was brought up all wrong. I guess it all boils down to the almighty dollar, and what people will do for money and fame. Well Nancy your losing fans more and more each day, you’ll be famous amongst your lawyer friends only, but without us the viewers, you won’t have a tv show very soon. Even some of your lawyer friends will end up turning their backs on you for the way you treat them while being guests on your show. Plain and simply disgusting!!!

     • I agree totally about Nancy G. I really think Congress needs to re-evaluate the laws that let these people air anything about a trial until AFTER it is over. Look at what they did to KC. Even though she was found not-guilty, the HLN network has turned most of the country against her. KC should have been given the opportunity to start over again so she could get the “help” that they all say she needs. After Jodi is free, will anyone give her a job? Will Jodi be safe to walk down the street without fear? It just isn’t fair for a National media operation to take a stand against anyone that could put that person at risk for harm or put that person at a disadvantage socially, financially or in any other way. The media is undermining the purpose of our Constitution to protect the citizens of this country from discrimination.

157. I have a problem with her premeditating this murder due to the crime scene tells a very different story. It was so unorganized. They say she stabbed him first, but if premed, who does that? Who premeds a murder with a knife as the weapon? Also, the pics of them before the murder started tell how they are having a pretty good time it appears, then the pic of the light fixture on the ceiling, which would go with her story of she dropped the camera..then the pics of the blood, still goes with her story. She drops the camera and the fight happens. If premed she could have shot him in his sleep earlier. She woke up before he did, or if it’s premed, she wouldn’t have went to sleep at all. I don’t think the jury will convict her for these reasons.

     • Def not premed…as I’ve always said she was there for 15hrs and why wait until he was able to defend himself when she cld have easily done it during sex or his sleep. Also, those pics say it all. Something happeened. It was normal then boom. And why wld she knife him first?? Come on!!!!! I wish they wld just stick to the eveidence with all this bc it tells the story and I’ve gone iver and iver it and what the prosecutor is saying lsnt have happened…its so crazy how he says her story is false lol I dnt know what the hexk he’s looking at but even his knife wounds on the back of his neck and back clearly point to him being on top of her and her stabbing him blindly from reaching around his torso. The wounds are exactly in the area one wld hit of someone were on top of them

158. I also can’t believe this jury is un-sequestered.

159. Why are holes in this paper and not in that one He’s stupid and I know that some of the jury thinks the same way I do.

160. This jury being free to go home is so prejudicial. I think the jury is watching anything they want. They are probably forming their opinion on the media’s opinion. The media wants another Casey Anthony trial, so they are going to make Jodi look just as guilty as they can. People buy whatever the media is selling. If a person is guilty..it brings in more ratings..I think Jodi is having a very unfair trial. Maybe this can win her a new trial in the end if she is convicted.

161. I have a theory after viewing the video by HJ Blankenship http://ktar.com/59/1619334/More-than-one-killer-in-the-Jodi-Arias-case. In Jodi’s second story she said that 2 people (a man and a woman) killed Travis. My theory is this……….That story was the correct story and Jodi (or her family) were threatened by the real killers – or – Jodi and another individual killed Travis. I’m curious if anyone else has a theory on this.

     • Interesting.

     • It is an interesting take on the Ninja story but it seems like a real stretch. I am staying with the theory that Travis attacked Jodi and that she killed him in self-defense. I am counting on the justice system to find Jodi not guilty. Whether or not it was pre-meditated or a crime of passion or self-defense makes no difference to me. The issue here is. “Can the prosecution PROVE that it was not self-defense or pre-meditated?” The reason it doesn’t matter to me is that I believe that Travis got exactly what he asked for by being a perverted boy-picture-jacking, girl-body-abusing hypocrite while pretending to be a witness for God. I know that I hold back my thoughts but some day I will let you know how I really feel once I come out of my shell!

       • David,
         Hold back your thoughts? Don’t think so! Pay attention to your thoughts, your feelings and your emotions. Pause to figure out what you can learn in the process! “Ninja” (a term phrased by media and not Jodi) or intruders is indeed a stretch and a psychological defense mechanism postulated by a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept despite the overwhelming evidence which led to admittance of taking a life. Was this self-defense or pre-meditated? Only Jodi knows this for sure. This DOES make a difference for me and I too am counting on the justice system. Either way, no one wins in this tragic event and it behooves us to not pass judgment without validity. Can the defense PROVE that Travis was a perverted boy-picture-jacking, girl-body-abusing hypocrite while pretending to be a witness for God? Can the prosecution PROVE that Jodi killed Travis just because she was jealous and obsessive? Neither one of these assumptions ring true to me. However a life has been taken and another lost, there are no winners here and that is a hard pill to swallow for a society that loves justice. Interested in how you really feel once you come out of your shell.

         • Eileen,

           You may not like the statements I make. Remember that we are talking about war and a fight for someones life here. It is sad that one life has been lost as you mention. I think it would be worse if yet another one was lost. I do appreciate your position. Whether or not you agree with me doesn’t matter. I appreciate that you think for yourself and don’t just take the media’s crap as being the truth. As you mention, we all will probably never know the exact truth since we weren’t there. I base my “judgement” on what I know to be true about all people who are abused in relationships. So, the testimony that Jodi has given about the little boy pictures and the choaking does ring true to me. I have a very good understanding of what it is like to be in an abusive relationship. Jodi’s behavior is classic for a person who was severely abused. No I am not a psychologists but there are a few good ones who are testifying on her behalf. I hope that the jury listens. As for a society that loves justice, I don’t see that in our society. I believe that society loves a good movie or a good football game. That is what the media gives and that is why they are promoting their crap all over TV and the papers. They don’t care about justice. And I am not quite out of my shell yet…still letting my wings dry.

162. This new video is more clear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G05D11DZf_8

163. Everyone thinks that Dr. Samels didnt do a good job…. I find that almost impossible that every professional on HLN thinks the same… its like a cult!!! Having gone through a masters program in Psych I think Dr. Samuels did a fine job. Martinez insulted him and the profession overall, it is not unethical to hand someone you evaluate a book or send it to them if they report to be suicidal or on the verge. Im my book it is unethical to do nothing, which Dr. Samuels told the defense team and sent her a book he thought may help her. Not wrong in my opinion and Martinez is just focusing on semantics actually getting out Webster’s definition of compassion??? seriously??? Whether Samuels should have re-evaluated her or not I find it almost like a psych experiment that all these legal eagles agree with one another and say “oh what a great job Martinez is doing ripping the shrink to shreds” He didnt rip a damn thing on this dr. in my book but show he does not understand or respect the profession of psychology. I thought Samuels did fine and agree she suffered a trauma…. Samuels did not say she didnt pre-meditate anything he said it was “highly unlikely”… and seriously your going to stab a man 80 lbs heavier and bigger than you first to kill him and risk him getting the knife and killing you when you have a gun??? Not pre-meditated in my book, self defense is also in question to me only because of the extent of this killing… I agree she is not getting a fair trial and messages to the public are totally biased and there is no “”devil’s” advocate” on these shows!!! They just all agree she pre-meditated this and is a “psycho” (literally they say this)… believe me as a woman if you hate someone so much and want them dead you dont go sleeping wtih them hours before…. I dont buy that. I wouldnt be surprised if this trial has to be done all over again with how unjust this is going… Nancy says its wrong for her to “tailor” her testimony to the shrinks….??? its wrong for her to try and “win at all costs”… ummmm yeah it is WRONG to win at all costs and thats what I see the prosecution doing.

164. Why is the prosecution and defense ignoring this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l_O_-rcbs0

165. @ Mary

     I must admit that is a very interesting photo. I’ve sat and stared at it for a couple of hours, blowing it up larger and what not. It looks to me like theres a man either kneeling or standing right behind her, but admittedly it is very hard to make out and be 100% sure of what i’m seeing. Maybe after staring at it for so long i’m beginning to see things lol. Is that what you see as well? I see a mans head directly above her, along with the outline of his shoulders… dark or black jacket and pants, and he definitely appears to be crouching. Spooky!

     • @ Jinx
       That is what I see. There is another video (I posted the link a few comments prior to the last link – where there is a possibility of even another person (which would match with Jodi’s story of 2 intruders – though I don’t see that one as clear. The individuals who are making these videos are doing this without the benefit of the original digital photo, If the defense or prosecution had forensic photographers look at the photo I do believe they would be able to explain what is in this photo. I do believe Jodi’s story of 2 intruders – so why would she change it? I think it is because nobody – including her defense team – believed the story. She stayed with that story for a very long time. Remember Dr. Samuels mentioned in testimony that she was very upset that Nurmi had left her defense. Was that because he didn’t believe her story? Dr. Samuels also testified that he and Nurmi both went to Jodi and told her that she had to tell the truth. And now – finding out about this other person who was identified via an anonymous tip – did he have a reason? Could he be the person who slashed TA’s tires? Did Jodi kill Travis and was it premeditated beyond A REASONABLE DOUBT – not in my opinion.

166. Okay, what’s going on here–I posted a short comment yesterday, because I have some things I’d like to say, ask, etc., just like everybody else here. It came up saying that my comment is in moderation, which I understand, but it seems like it’s been totally ignored instead, because I’m now seeing a good half-dozen comments written since then that have been posted…a couple of them only just this morning, a couple of hours ago, and I don’t understand. My comment y-day wasn’t so much a comment as it was a question–I simply asked, in all fairness, before I expand on anything, if there is any kind of limit as to how long (the length of it) we can make our comments. I ask this because I do have quite a lot actually to say, ask, etc., because let’s face it, there’s a lot to this case…no more, no less. I ask in fairness because I thought this to be a fair site, and I’m glad I found it. If you’re wondering or thinking that I’m against Jodi, that’s not it at all. As with others I’ve read on here, I’m looking at it all objectively and legally at this point, because I still have catching up to do with all the background particulars and such. However, I can say that I’m DEFinitely NOT leaning towards the prosecution’s side of ANYthing from what I know of the case so far…nope…and that Doc Samuels is a top-notch professional and a total stand-up guy IMO.

     Again, I’d like to comment further, but if I’m just going to be ignored, well… Guess I’ll just keep watching the trial video…at least there’s that on here, and it’s the real deal, with no distortions, twists or illusions of any kind, and that’s definitely the way it should be–you couldn’t pay me to watch any of that Court TV b.s.

     That said, I’ll stop now and hope that my simple question will be not only moderated, but answered, and that I’ll be able to post further. Thank You.

     • Hi qshots….its happens w post. Sometimes they dnt go through. That is all. If the admint disnt like what u had to say u wld have been blocked and woulsnt be able to post this!!! So, I wldnt read into it and just post ur questions etc 🙂 ur welcomed 🙂

167. Last night on Dr. Drew I swear I heard him say, “:everyone on the panel agrees (something to the effect of Jodi’s pre-meditation) and “Everyone” at home agrees…. um ….. NO not so that everyone agrees on this. Also when the “virtual” jury said 88% thought Travis abused her and only 12% said he was not guilty of that they said the virtual jury “must have gotten confused” about facts in the case… this is absurd…. so if the virtual jury said they felt he was abusive with an 88% result reporting this….they are all confused??? This is an atrocity for this young woman they way this is depicted by the media and whether it was self defense or not I dont believe the general public is conprised of every single person being confused on what they think! Abuse takes many forms and emotional abuse is abuse! The way a person reacts to that and integrates it within themselves is also very key in this, some of us are more resilient to abuse and some of us not so much. Its not an insult to domestic violence victims at all, its a manner in which the abuse affected her. Someone needs to call in and say they agree and then on air tell them they are making a mockery of their professions by attacking and abusing this defendant themselves and not standing by a justice system that should be innocent until proven guilty and reporting news in an unbiased fashion and explain their take on this makes little sense to attack with a knife first, be intimate with a man all day and you end up with a crime scene like you have and this was well pre-meditated? bull. You can see the hate in them as they say “oh she doesnt think like us” and how every man “shutters” when they see her… I dont think there is really any empathy to try and even put themselves in her shoes and think about what they would have done if indeed she did fear for her life and plenty of men on here I dont interpret as “shuttering in fear” of her. I am disheartened by the way America is covering this trial. “everyone thinks like them?? its beyond words to think they are stating this.

     • She knows 🙂

     • Sorry L I didn’t mean to post that. I was writing something and it just posted lol

168. omg! Finally a place where the voice of reason has a place. I am appalled by all the HLN hosts and the vitriol that comes out of their mouths. It’s most unprofessional. Seriously, my diagnosis for Nancy Grace is as follows:

     Diarrhea of the mouth. Severe.

     Jodi, I wish there was a way that you could see that some of us are on your side. My prayers and thoughts are with you.

169. Thanks Ann for the reply and the welcome, and I understand. Actually, it’s all kind funny in a way, cuz when I think about it, I wonder how I even got mixed up into all of it…lol. I was down at a neighbor’s place one night a couple weeks ago, and their TV was on HLN, and that’s how I first learned of it. I don’t watch TV, so I came home, got online and Googled the trial. The first couple of sites I hit were the ABC and NBC news sites, which I only stayed on a couple of minutes each, just to try and get a basic grasp on what’s what. This site was my third surf on it, and it has all the actual trial video (and in a very well-laid out format, i’d like to say), which watching is the only real way to learn anything real about it, so this is where I’ve been. Unfortunately, it’s slow-going for me in catching up on things (hence, i may be asking a lot of questions) because as I said, I don’t watch or even have TV of any kind, and my internet is the satellite variety, with its daily download amount limits, and I’m only able to watch the trial videos between 1-6 A.M., during the “free” time (no dwnld limits during those hrs), sooo…

     Ironically, that time is approaching in just a few minutes, so I can’t write much more right now. I’ll just say that from what I’m seeing, this case is indeed the proverbial onion, whose layers haven’t even begun to be shed yet. There’s waay more to things that nobody seems to be even wondering about, much less bringing up. I’ll expand on some of those later, but for now, on the whole, I fully agree that she is innocent of the charge of Murder 1, and there’s no way the state can prove pre-med. There may be a ton of other ifs, maybes and what-nots, but those two things are certain IMO.

     For the time being, I’d like again to speak up for the Doc (Samuels)…he’s great–and his testimony spreads REASONABLE DOUBT all over the place, as far as I see it, and from a legal standpoint. Now, of course, whether or not the jury (who i desp. wish the camera would show just once) knows exactly what those two words actually mean as they relate to things has yet to be seen…for Jodi’s sake, let’s hope they do.

     I’ll leave it on that note for now, and I’m off to watch the trial vid. I’ll also leave one of my many morsels of food for thought on the table: the dog. This guy was in that house, dead, for 5 days, correct?…and from what I understand, he had roommates that were just coming & going in & out of that house during that time as well, correct?…well, their actions and supposed ignorance to what was going on is a whole other matter to discuss, but I do know animals, and that dog would definitely have been giving signs in one way or another of something being amiss…definitely.

     Again, thanks for the welcome–I do like the site and how it’s formatted, and I’ll be posting more.

     Oh, one more thing: the washer…in what part of the house was it located exactly?

170. Welcome qshots :), good point about the dog, also how could those room mates not notice the smell of TA’s 5 day old rotting corpse. I find that impossible to believe!

     @ Mary – I agree it would be interesting to see what a forensic photographer could see after doing a bit of work with those original crime scene photos.

     @ L – HLN is a joke, it’s no surprise they would try to downplay or twist the outcome of their ridiculous mock trials when the outcome is far different from what they expected and hoped would happen.

     @ Sil – I totally agree with your description of Nancy Disgrace, and you’ll find many others here that will agree with you on that :). On her show while the trial is still in progress she pops up in a little box randomly, voicing her criticisms because she just cant help herself. I also believe that she lies, theres no indication that the trial is at a sidebar or break of any kind, but she keeps it on pause so that she can get her 98 cents worth. That lady simply disgusts me and i hate to admit that i once liked her years ago when she was on court TV. She’s changed in my opinion. Welcome to you as well Sil 🙂

     • They lie all thw time lol they sit there and call hwr a lier but I’ve heard tons of lies from them…they twist shit up big time….like they said she nevwr testified about the knife of where it was…and made a huge deal about where she got it and i quote “ut disnt happen like ahe said it dis bc ahe wld have never had time to fins the knife”….meanwhile she testified travis cut the rope in the bathroom and she remembwred the rope and knife on the counter in bathroom earlier in the morning or when she took a shower…she said she cldnt remember exactly….so so so many timea they twist shit….oh question….did someone actually testify that she hit her brother in the head w a bat…bc today Beth said that someone “testified” about that and I do not remmember this…I remember someone being on tv saying they were her babysitter when she was lit and ahe hit her brother w a bat but “testified” I dnt remember that??? Does anyone remember this?? If not, just anither lie!!!

171. Okay, my browser is messin with me on the video for some reason, so while I give it a few to figger itself out, I’ll toss out a thought or two.

     Truth is, I honestly don’t know where to start. I dunno whether to start by expressing my personal belief that a pedophile is a pedophile, period, and that pedophiles DESERVE to die, period, end of story…OR, by expressing my thoughts on just how bad that punk prosecutor needs the living you-know-what choked out of him. He himself, as a human (?), goes “beyond the scope” (they like to use those words…lol).

     I was just getting into pt. 1 of day 36, and man, oh man…this is really starting to border on the completely insane. Can any one say “miscarriage of justice”? I mean, who’s on trial here, Jodi, or the poor Doc? (and no, that’s not meant against Jodi) I’m sorry, but just what the hell does giving a book, for the PURPOSE OF EVALUATION (and completely ethical i might add), or “little round circles”, or punched holes, or rescoring a test, for PERSONAL reference ONLY, have to do with whether or not she killed somebody?…answer: absolutely nothing. And oh yeah, let’s make a federal case over Webster’s dictionary definition of “compassion”…I totally lost it when he pulled that one. It’s obvious what he’s trying to is discredit the Doc as a witness, which of course in turn would throw out and disallow any-and-everything about the PTSD. Okay, well, just hypothetically, ok?, let’s say that happened…all the defense would have to do, if not move for a mistrial, is just call in another expert (and i mean expert, like Samuels), and evaluate again (which would take yet another year or so, and only end up costing the state, which would only end up p***ing off the AG…ha), just to have that second expert ultimately agree 100% in the diagnosis of PTSD (and round-n-round we go…). I too have PTSD, and can tell you that once it settles in, it’s there to stay, period. Sure, therapy can help, meds can help, and so on, but in one form or another, it’s always there, and its symptoms/effects can rear their ugly heads at any time. In general, I do relate to and understand perfectly the whole psychological side of this, and agree 100%…I only can hope that at least a couple of the jurors can see it. The brain is one damn weird organ, and can operate in some damn weird ways, and that’s fact. It can indeed “shut down”, and yes, repressed issues can indeed all come to a head at one time if the right/wrong trigger (no pun meant) is pulled…and yes, can cause a person to do something or act in ways totally out of step with their normal nature and being.

     Anyway, he (JM) totally crossed the line when he said to the Doc, “so the reason this test had to be scored 3 times is because you’re a bit sloppy”–I say again that that’s totally crossing the line. But more, I say again that none of all he’s goin’ on-an-on-an-on about even matters. In a nutshell, he knows he doesn’t have a case, and so goes desperately and wildly fishing around about stuff that doesn’t really even matter, when it really comes down to it. They need to be looking in whole other directions. For instance…

     Well, first, I’ll say again that I still have a lot of catching up to do, as I just started watching things with the Day 27 (or was it 28?) video, when all the juror’s questions were being asked of Jodi–who, btw, I think answered truthfully, and to the best of her ability, given the circumstances. So, if anyone could throw any kind of background info my way until I’m able to round it up myself, it would be appreciated.

     Moving on, one thing that keeps going through my mind, and that I wanna know more about is the 5-day period between the time he was killed and the time he was allegedly found…that to me is a huge gap that needs to be filled in numerous ways. I already said what I did about the dog, but more importantly, what’s up with these roommates (and/or whoever else that might have “happened through”)?? Are they honestly trying to say that they didn’t notice the smell, which there most definitely would be, and especially after 5 days in June in Arizona, A/C or not?..do none of them possess the sense of smell?…also, exactly how many people are we talking about? And, I take it that the house is a 2-story??

     I’ll leave it at that for now, and see if the video will cooperate again. I’ll also apologize ahead of time if my comments end up a bit long (?)…I just get to typing and kinda lose track…sorry :p

172. @ Jinx – Hey Jinx, thanx. Also, ha, I was typin’ away and didn’t look upwards any to notice you too posted re the smell. Trust me, I got more, but don’t wanna hog the board or anything.

     Anyway, did I forget to mention up there that IMHO, JM is literally a complete blithering idiot?…I meant to.

     Ok, I’m done for now 😀

173. (grits teeth) GRRR!! okay, I was able to finish watching pt. 1 of Day 36, and JEEZus, I dtruly don’t know how much more of JM I can take (i of course will watch the rest, but you know what i mean)…I find myself having to stave off a very strong urge to punch out my screen. Not only does he not understand psychology, he’s not even trying to…it’s like he’s totally turning his head to it (the “talk to the hand” kinda thing, ya know?). But, HELLOOO JM??…uh, that’s NOT what “blind justice” is talking about.

     Anyhoo, just one more thing…and this in an attempt to throw a bit of lightheartedness into this whole mess. Okay, you know how in Las Vegas, they’ll bet on pretty much anything?…well, what they need to start takin’ bets on is just how many times counsel will approach the bench during a session. I haven’t actually counted, but I’d bet it happens at least a dozen times, at least, during just one of these one-hour videos. (shakes head at the sheer absurdity of it all…)

     • Lightheartedness is needed on “this whole mess”! As for the bet scheme, LET ME IN! My bet at this point, withstanding continued testimony, is approx. 12. Continued testimony may or not change my bet BUT think the odds are in favor of 12

174. oops, typo on line 2 -> “truly”…sorry 🙂

175. God help this poor girl. She is being railroaded.

176. Just wanted to say Thank you to all of you who show there is hope that not everyone is a robot who just believes what the media tries to sell and actually thinks for themselves… I think some on HLN are shocked the “virtual verdict” was what it was the other night… and cant believe some of the Dr.’s are just like the attorneys ripping her to shreds…they are destroying their own shows by not showing both sides. Its infuriating not one stands up to try and present the other side and mind boggling. I have hope from this site people are brains fo their own to think and analyze and not be sucked into a group mind set. Just wanted to give my appreciation. I hope Jodi realizes some see what actually happened.

177. Hmm. Well, my comp. seems to be totally screwin up on me, so I’ll mess with it for a bit, but g’head and try to post real quick beforehand.

     @ Eileen – Just acknowledging ur reply :)…as I say, my puter is wiggin’ out on me, so…

     A sudden thought just flashed thru my own gray matter…didn’t Jodi testify that when TA tackled her down in the bathroom, she hit her head on something-? If so, then that COULD account for some of the fogginess…it is a medical possibility. Again, it’s just a thought, but it COULD (IF any of them would pay attention, that is) present yet another trickle (i think there’s quite a few) of reasonable doubt. Have, or were, any X-rays or anything taken to see about that?…I somehow doubt it. Jeez, this case is such a farce, and Mary, you couldn’t be more right, in that she’s being severely railroaded…yep, no doubt about it.

     And a question: What’s his name, Nermie? (i just call him FatMan)…does anybody know why he withdrew from the case?…that seemed to come outa nowhere, but maybe I missed something. Anyway, from a legal standpoint, if he’s withdrawn, then what’s he doing still sitting there, taking notes, and conversing with the defendant?…isn’t that a breach of some sort?…in other words, something that could end up being a detriment to Jodi? e.g. he’s soaking up testimony & related info that the prosecution could end up accusing him of withholding. I dunno, maybe I’m stretching–any feedback on that?

     • @ qshots

       I believe (but not positive) that Nurmi withdrew or was going to withdraw from her defense prior to Trial. Dr. Samuels testified that Jodi was depressed because Nurmi was leaving. I am curious why he was leaving also. Personally, I still feel sad for Jodi – I do believe she told the truth about the intruders – and nobody – including her defense team – believed her. So she either came up with this new story – or – they have convinced her she is crazy and maybe her memories now are what Flores and others told her happened. It’s early – I haven’t had my coffee yet so I hope this post made sense 🙂 Pray for Jodi.

178. @ Mary – Yes, your post made sense, java or not 😀

     About the intruder story, I still haven’t been able to catch up enough (this @#$%&* computer of mine…grrr!) to have even heard that story in its fullest yet, so I can’t say one way or the other on that one. I’ve actually been reserving making any kind of real hypothesis until I find out a lot more… however, from the just the little I’ve seen, heard and learned so far, it’s been enough for me to go ahead and voice a couple of definite strong gut feelings I’m having more with each day, which are: 1) There is one hell of a SERIOUS cover-up going on here, and 2) She was not the only one involved…I’m just not buying it. I don’t know just how much of the killing and/or cleanup she was actually involved in, but I do not believe she did all of it…in fact, I’m starting to seriously wonder if her participation was even voluntary. There’s too many things that just plain don’t add up…one main one, for me, being the slitting of the throat. That’s a focused, deliberate act, and one that I just don’t see her doing, sorry…unless she’s more of a complete & total wacko than any of us would ever have believed, which I don’t think is the case either. No, there’s way more involved here than anyone realizes…I’ve said that before, and i’m saying it again. This thing goes deep, and I say again, -> there are more players involved with regard to the actual event…I just haven’t picked up on enough yet to figure out if “they” were there before, during or after.

     No, I’m still not expanding on any of what I’m sure others would consider as totally “out there” theories, but I will, and when I do, it’s most likely gonna be a bombshell. There are just certain overtones in certain areas that cry out with volume to me, and that I just can’t attribute to her and her alone. Am I saying that she herself is covering something up?…maybe, but again, I’m doubting that it’s voluntary, or for any intent of purposeful deceit. But even if it is, it’s most likely due to one of her own strong inner beliefs that no one would be able to grasp, much less truly understand. (hmm, did any of that make sense?…and i HAVE had my java…lol 🙂 )

     SOMEthing went suddenly, terribly wrong and not according to “plan” that fateful day, and unfortunately, Jodi ended up becoming a lone and unwitting scapegoat because of it …the questions are what plan, and more importantly, WHOse plan. I’m sorry, but the whole picture is just not being seen here. I think Jodi does know parts of it, but in no way all of it…and the parts she does know, and that could quite possibly save her ass, she’s NOT ABLE to bring out, because of it putting her in an even worse spot that she’s already in. In a nutshell, she’s caught…no, trapped…between the proverbial rock and a hard place in a bad way, and just can’t get out…she’s all alone out there, and I for one think she’s holding up damn good, and as best she can, considering the odds against her, and what she knows she’s facing.

     I’ll leave it at that for now, but as I go, I have to express again that that 5 day period still weighs a ton on my mind…just what the hell was REALLY going on during that time?? Oh, and the part about her dragging the body, by herself?…NO WAY in hell! I also want to clarify that none of what I’m saying is said against Jodi in any way (including the cover-up element)…I realize some of it may not make exact sense upon first read, and may be interpreted that way, but no, that’s not it at all. I’m just not wanting to say too much, in all fairness, until I can be more sure about certain things.

     Parting questions:1) Just how was it that TA was supPOSed to have been found-?, and 2) How did she end up getting arrested…did she turn herself in, or-??

     • I agree with your feelings of her no being alone in this….I too find too many holes in this story. Jodi sweet baby girl…no one is worth protecting when all they want is for you to take full blame. Just saying this incase it is true. I found this page site and posted it to my FB wall. Would explain alot…being Travis was this “Elder” and high Mormon profile….who violated and took advantage of Jodi in her journey to only know more of the Mormon faith. He was a bad boy….and this video would explain alot.

       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcOszCVeclw&feature=player_embedded

179. They are talking about the WEBSITE!!

180. She SCORES on behalf of all women who have been in a relationship with an abuser today! Heads are spinning at HLN, if they continue spewing poison after this they step on the toes of all victims of abuse. But they can still analyze her caloric intake. This should keep the network running through Easter weekend.

181. I started watching Jodi’s trial when she first took the stand. Missing out on alot of testimony from earlier days I am so thankful you have a library of all the days listed. Gave me a chance to catch up. There is no doubt Jodi is guilty of killing Travis….but I say this because she admitted to it. First degree? No…premeditated? I don’t think so. So I looked further and one thing really got my attention. I am hoping someone can help me out here with an answer. JM states that Jodi staged a robbery at her grand parents home and the gun was stolen. She brought the gun. Ok. Daniel Freeman….he states in his testimony that he and Travis made a surprise visit to Jodi on a trip they made and this was the first time Daniel had met her. He stated that he waited in the living room while Jodi and Travis went to the back of the house for approx 40 minutes. Now…when was the supposed burglary at the house versus the time Travis and his friend came? Is it possible that Travis in fact came there to get a gun from Jodi? And Jodi knew he had the gun and where he had the gun because she gave it to him…not wanting to tell her grand father? That would clearly explain how that gun came into play at Travis house hiding in the closet? Travis afterall had been going with friends and target shooting. he obviously liked guns. Cant figure out why he would want a small hand gun especially a 25. I had one. you cant kill a mouse with a 25 lol. Anyways, is it possible?

     • Anything is possible, and it def sounds like a plan….but what’s also possible is that Jodi took the gun bc she new she was traveling by her self….and didn’t want to ask her grandparents for it bc she didn’t want to worry them….and if she did take it, she prob thought they wldnt know it was missing….she wldnt b able to say she bought it with her and had it in her bag or pocket book while in the house bc they wld scream premeditation….so she wldnt admit it!! But we do know Travis was def into guns!!

       • Ann,
         If Jodi took the gun bc she was travelling alone and “didn’t want to worry her grandparents” I would think that having a gun would cause less worry?? How is it that you know Travis was into guns. Perhaps I missed something that supports this?
         In any case, as you say anything is possible however the more evidence presented in this fascinating trial the more realization is that Jodi was indeed a victim of domestic abuse with Travis trying to maintain control over her and Jodi thinking it is ok to continually humiliate or talk down to her. In my opinion, Travis met the match that is equal or better and was unable to beat what happened. I do not believe there was “a plan” but do believe that Jodi reached the depth of her personal dysfunction prior to meeting Travis and the abusive relationships that destroyed her self-worth leading to anxiety and depression making her feel selfless and alone.
         All that being said, Jodi killed Travis in a manner related to over-kill which speaks volumes. I in no way believe the this was pre-meditated an also believe the Travis played a role in this tragedy. No one wins here and if there is anything to be learned it is that we all need to pay attention to those that display potential for disaster. Neglect is a disorder of attention to focus to pay attention! I only one person interested in the well-being of Jodi paid attention to both Jodi and Travis we may not be faced with this horrific tragedy. As I said, let this trial be a lesson for all of us!

         • As to your question about Travis liking guns. Rememebr the video they showed of him out with friends shooting big arsenal weapons?

         • Eileen….I def wld not tell my grandparents I was taking a gun with me on a road trip….i wld pretend the road trip was no big deal bc if i led t hem to believe it was dangerous….if i told them i was going across the dessert by myself etc, they wld freakkkkkk outttttt!!! My grandfather is worried all the time for me when I travel for work, never mind a desolate road adventure….he wld not give me the gun, and basically forbid me to go!!!…..as far as Travis being into guns, there was a video on the news of him shooting a machine gun in the desert with his friends, with a huge smile on his face having the time of his life…and his friend said they went shooting all the time!!!

           • Ann, Jodi regularly took road trips all over most western and mountain states including the desert. As a licensed gun owner myself, and the fact that her grand parents owned guns, she would have been encouraged to carry a weapon for self-defense and rightfully so. Just because Travis was seen in a video shooting guns with his friends does not necessarily mean that he was “into guns”, although he may have been. Whether he was or not frankly has no basis in this tragic event. Only one gun was used which may or have not killed him, stabbing him 29 times certainly did. The gun is actually irrelevant in this case unless it can be used as evidence of pre-meditation.
             I am astounded as to why there is so much focus on HOW Jodi killed Travis, she did in fact kill him and admits to this. The bigger issue of domestic abuse, with or without PTSD, and the need for Travis to maintain total control over Jodi which is a pattern is prevalent in this case. There are so many lessons to be learned from this case along with numerous ethical, philosophical, and methodological challenges. As I said previously, it is unfortunate for everyone involved in this tragedy that no one recognized the potential for disaster, or simply chose to do nothing about it. Looking forward I believe that Alyce LaViolette is presenting an intelligent non-biased opinion that will contribute to a verdict of first-degree murder keeping Jodi off death row.
             No one wins in this case however there are hopeful lessons to be learned for all of us. Two special lives were lost from this tragedy, hopefully in the end one might be saved. Let us pray for both victims.

182. I was so happy to read everyone’s comments here…I was beginning to think I was the only one. I wrote a blog in desperation…

     http://faithperceptions.wordpress.com

183. Oookay, well…

     It’s still slow-going, but little by little, I’ve been rousting around, and have seen/read/watched a few things…among others, the phone sex tape, crime scene pics, the 48 Hours episode, “Picture Perfect”, both Jodi’s & Travis’s blogs (on blogspot), the 911 call when he was found, some Mormon-related stuff, and etc….the combination of which is causing me to step back a little further and look at things with even more neutral objectivity…the proverbial “fly on the wall”, just looking on, and trying to make some kind of at least abstract sense of it all…I think that’s the most kind of sense any of it is ever going to make, much less be fully, truly known. This case goes all over the place, and is indeed one for the books. IMO, the only people who know what really happened that fateful day are those who were involved, or at least there, and that’s the way it’ll stay–not all is being told, and not by everyone, nor will it ever be.

     That said, I’ll now toss out a few random things, in no particular order, that just don’t make sense to me at this point (not even abstractly), with any and all feedback being welcome & appreciated.

     1a) The shell casing – As far as we know, it was found in a pool of dried blood, and they’re wanting to know just how, if the gunshot happened first, that could be. Well, to me, the possibility is pretty obvious that it could have happened during the ensuing struggle (TA scrambling around on the floor, or the tussle between the two (?) of them that she said occurred). HowEVer, I admit there’s a problem with that, because has anyone noticed that the casing itself presents itself as totally clean, i.e. no blood spots, smears or speckles of any kind…almost as if it was placed there, for whatever rhyme or reason-? A brain-twister indeed.
     1b) I know the casing can’t be matched to a gun, cuz there is no gun (nifty, huh?), but does anyone know if they tested to see if the casing matches with the bullet that was lodged in his cheek…I’m just asking-?
     2a) The intruder angle – It was supposed to have been a man & a woman, right?…well, what about Chris & Sky Hughes-?…again, for whatever rhyme, reason or warped agenda of their own-? Have their movements/placement that afternoon been accounted for? I mean, we know they didn’t like Jodi, but they also were none too happy with Travis for continuing to see her…even though by all he was telling them towards the end that he wasn’t, they had to have had theuir own suspicions. And while we’re at it, just how Mormon-devout were they (the Hughes)?
     2b) Was Jodi ever asked if she recognized either of their voices…the voices specifically…as being that of anyone she knew or had been acquainted with-?
     3) In his blog, Travis made an entry, dated April 22, 2013, just shortly before his death, entitled “Creating An Amazing Day”, and in it, he tells that every day for the past 6 years, he’s started out the day by writing down (with pen) on a 3×5 card the things he wanted to accomplish/get done that day. He gives an example of the card he had written up that same morning, which included such basically inconsequential things as “yoga”, “walk 2 miles”, “clean house”, “mail package”, and #21 on the list, which I’ll touch on in a min. Well, first of all…and remember, he’s doing this EVery day for 6 YEARs, which would include the entire time frame he & Jodi were associated…if he’s trippin’ on such things as yoga and cleaning the house, wouldn’t you think that at some point or another, he would have written some important something (there were important things on it too) that had to do with the two of them, such as “Call Jodi about our trip”, or some other important thing they may be planning together, or whatever-?…which leads me to: did they ever find or round up any of those 3×5 cards to read through for some kind of possible pertinent information, i.e. evidence-?? As for #21 on the list for that day (the last thing), it was “Buy camera”…hmm…THE camera, one wonders-? After all, Jodi did say (in one version) that it was HIS new camera that he’d just gotten that they were taking pics with that day. True, it may be neither here nor there, but still, wouldn’t it be kinda trippy, all the same? Also, as an aside, I find it kinda trippy that outa nowhere, the both of them decide to up and create blogs within days of each other, and way after you’d think either of them would have, as the kinda people they were. (shrug)
     4) The camera itself – a) What in bloody hell was it doing in the friggin’ washing machine, of all places-?? I’m sure there’s not one of us who hasn’t wondered that, and continues to wonder, so I’ll let it go. b) But wait, it appears to have actually been run through a wash cycle!…wtf!?–I mean, did somebody truly think that that extra spin cycle would definitely “wash clean” all those deleted pics?? (ha!–sorry, i couldn’t help but make that joke 😀 ) c) Seriously tho, did they ever check for receipts of any kind to make sure of whose camera it was?…a REAL investigation does such things, ya know…especially with such an incriminating piece of evidence. Whose prints did they get off the camera? And d), here’s an idea – What IF, during the struggle (not impossible), Travis himself somehow managed to get a grab of the camera enough to press a button for it to take pictures, in the hope of it catching what was happening, and more importantly, who was doing it-??…I’m a photographer myself, and do know that, depending on the camera, that can be done, and it wouldn’t have to take more than a sec or two if you know what you’re doing. I know, you’re saying that’s a stretch, but again, it’s not totally outside the realm of possibility…stranger things have happened. Of course, it would make more sense to press the “video” button on it instead, but really, what IS making sense at a time like that, with all literal hell breaking loose at Warp 9?
     5) I can’t help but point out one journal entry in particular that Jodi made (was in the crime scene pics, and had no date on it)…she wrote: “…but then getting prepped to go to Travis’ house for the night, where we explored every naughty fantasy we could conjure up in our fruitful imaginations that we hadn’t already fulfilled with one another”. That entry, coupled with certain things she said during that phone sex conversation, completely contradict what she’s now saying, as far as the majority of things he wanted to do as part of their sexual escapades not sitting comfortable with her–uh, sorry, but BULLSHIT, and I’ll call her card on that one. She was EVery bit as ready, willing, able and CONSENTING as he was with ALL of that, and LIKED every bit of it…she herself says so in that phone convo. The two of them were a coupla horn-toads, simple as that.
     Hey, how ’bout this – they were BOTH into the role-playing thing…what IF that frame of time that day began as just that, but then…??
     7) Oh yeah, one more, and this is a timeline thing that seems, well, weird and a bit, well, weird. It’s the last witness that the prosecution called before resting, Leslie Udy. She said that she met Jodi at a conference in Las Vegas in Sept. of ’06. Now, I dunno if that was the same conf. where Jodi & Travis met, but they did meet that same month. Anyway, Udy claims that when she met Jodi, she (J) was “expressing concerns that Travis was cheating on her”. Whoa, already?? They (J&T) had just met for crissake! That’s, well, weird to me, but maybe I’m missing something.

     I dunno. I wanna make it clear that my questions are simply for general info’s sake, cuz I don’t know, and that I’m simply putting forth “what-ifs” and “possible possibilities”, no more, no less, and neither advocating nor condemning one side or the other…again, I personally am just trying to make some kinda sense of it all, cuz…well, cuz it’s all DAMN WEIRD!!–ha! I’m not wanting to make any kind of predictions or anything, but I’m holding fast to the belief that there is way more involved in this that isn’t being told. Who knows what the real truth is, but quite honestly, and simply for the sake of discussion, the intruder story to my mind at least makes some kinda sense. If one or two of my yet unspoken “possible possibility” theories are anywhere close, it would open up a whole other can o’ worms, but at least it’d make sense.

     That’s it fer now…

     • qshots….Jodi never said she wasn’t into kinky sex etc w him…..she said that sometimes she was uncomfortable with it…..think of it this way….say u have sex 100 times w a guy and one day u don’t want to have sex w him….say he list you off…say ur thinking about that he’s cheating on you etc….but he keeps pressuring you and u just give in…..ur just not comfortable!!! Also, I think she wasn’t comfortable bc she knew he didn’t love her but she kept doing it, to please him….it depends on where they were at…obviously if they were together….she loved it….if they weren’t, she felt used and abused after….and prob during….but just did it to make him happy…..and I have def been there lolllll

184. @ Connie – WOW – I watched that video and I agree that does explain a lot. Was TA’s death a blood atonement?

     • Mary, I’m sorry, but are you only just now seeing that whole angle to it?…well, better late than never. Now, just sit back, and think outside the box for a while. There’s one common denominator in all of this…and it could explain everything.

       For what’s it’s worth, I finally saw a couple more things this morning that indeed changed my own way of thinking greatly on this whole thing, and you know what?…I do now firmly believe that Jodi is 100% innocent of the charge, and furthermore, that she had nothing at all whatsoever to do with the killing of Travis Alexander, period.

       • @ qhsots – I agree and have always felt that she is 100% innocent. But I admit this Mormon Blood Atonement thing caught me by surprised. I’m anxious to hear the other things you saw this morning.

         • Me too. I am not convinced Jodi is completely innocent….but I really feel she is hiding someone….not because she wants too.

185. (yawn…slurps coffee)

     @ both Mary & Connie – Okay guys, I just woke up, so I’m not totally coherent yet, but wanted to get on and thank you both for replying…I sometimes feel I must be writing in invisible ink on here or something…lol.

     Anyway, it would take quite a lot to try and explain on paper my main views on this, and the main theory I’ve had pretty much from the very beginning., even though it’s really fairly simple…if only people would just THINK, that is…I mean, it ain’t rocket science. Yes, I’ll probably drop my “bomb” soon, but still not quite yet. I’m still sitting idly (and rather irritatingly by this point) by, waiting to see if anyone else is finally gonna figure out the same thing.

     I admit, and you can see by my earlier posts, that I’ve tried hard not to have any kind of one-way thinking, and have tried to see this from all angles, but there’s a couple of things that have just always screamed out and gnawed at me regardless…and what I saw yesterday all but sealed the deal for me.

     Connie, you said, “…she is hiding someone…not because she wants to”, and well, you more or less hit the mark with that…more or less. IMO, she’s not exactly “hiding” ANYone, per se’…she’s already brought it forth, a long time ago…they just DIDN’T BELIEVE HER. Unfortunately, and especially at the time, Jodi had never played on “the system’s” chessboard before, and therefore, unwittingly let that same system manipulate her. However, there’s indeed way more to it, as far as why she then started changing the stories up…there’s one simple four-letter word that aptly says why.

     You see, what I was finally able to see yesterday was the police interrogation tape of June 16, 2008, the day after her arrest…and that right there is when everything started going against her and her hole began to be dug. She, I personally believe, told the real story that day, but again, they didn’t believe her…or more truly, MADE HER BELIEVE they didn’t believe her. As I said, she was not at all familiar with the system, interrogation techniques, etc., and while I do think she understood to some degree at least the repercussions of changing her story, she, in her own morals, beliefs, and that four-letter word, had no choice, plain & simple…honestly and truthfully, faced with the same situation, I would do the same thing (albeit i’m a bit smarter, and would be able to twist their own words right back on them).

     Man, don’t even get me started on that Det. Flores! She was telling him things…TRUTHful things…that were going right over his head, and at the same time, was NOT asking the obvious questions that any REAL investigator would have been asking in response to the story she was telling, such as, “were you able to tell the color of their eyes?”, or, “was there anything in their general mannerisms that sticks out?”, and a host of others…no, he was too busy putting words in her mouth she didn’t say, or totally twisting what she did say instead. I give her full kudos…despite possible consequences to others (a questionable act on her part?…well, maybe, but still…), she did try one time to tell the real story, but even tho she wasn’t experienced in dealing with punk cops like him and their methods of interrogation, she did realize that he just wasn’t gonna believe her, and so felt defeated already, so why not invent a REAL fabrication at that point, as it would throw EVerybody off the track, and consequently be an act of protection in and of itself.

     And yeah, I’ve probably totally lost you now, huh?…lol. Well, again, there’s a lot more that I won’t even try at this point to explain, but in a nutshell, everything she has said since that day has been the untruth…but NOT because she’s a liar. There is indeed a method to her madness (NO pun meant)…she has her reasons, and I for one do fully see & understand those reasons, and consider them to be valid. I admit to being no one special in any sense, but as I’ve stated before, I do know a fair bit about the psychological (even tho, if my theory is correct, that actually ends up not being that big of a factor in the big picture…certainly not as big as they’re trying to make it…again, it would take some explaining), and I’ve always been pretty damn good (pats self on back 🙂 ) when it comes to reading people…especially their inflection, tone, etc. when they are relating something…and well, IMHO, she was not making up the story she related in that interrogation room…there were just too many little things she said, and was recalling, and the way she was saying them, that indicate otherwise to me.

     Now (ahem), I suspect I’ve gotten you more confused than ever now with all of this, and if so, I apologize. In a nutshell, there’s one, and only one, direction they need to be looking at, if only they would just BACK THE F*** OFF AND SEE!! (um, sorry…i’m just starting to get a bit riled up is all by their close-minded “blindness”…and that blindness being selective) As for the rest of you, c’mon people, look at the bigger picture here, and look “higher up the chain”, if you will…SOMEbody’s gotta see it.

     And now Mary, it’s your turn… 🙂 Watch that interrogation tape, and among other things, listen closely to what she says the man kept telling the woman. Flores said he didn’t believe her because “why would anyone do that?” (to TA) Well, the answer is right there in front of ’em…

     (plz exuse any typos…i didnt hav time 2 prfrd)

     • @ qshots – I’ve said all along I believe her second story – the one of the intruders is the real story. She was telling the truth and nobody believed her. Not even her defense team believed her. I’m almost wondering if they didn’t convince her that she killed him. I did see the interrogation tape awhile ago and if I recall correctly the woman wanted to kill Jodi as well (they weren’t expecting her to be there) but the man said something like that’s not what they were there for. Looking higher up the chain? I can only think the Bishop or the Hughes. I’m honestly still trying to figure it out. The one thing I am completely convinced on is Jodi didn’t do it and everyone knows she didn’t do it. Sorry – I responded in a hurry – on lunch break – and have to shower to go to doctor’s office later 🙂

       • Mary – I replied to this, but was in a hurry & didn’t connect it to this box…plz see below. Thnx 🙂

186. Can someone answer a question? How long was travis dead before his roomate and friends opened his bedroom door and found him dead?

     • I think 5 days maybe more. Odd his roommate smelled nothing and didn’t notice the dog acting strangely. Did they share the washing machine – I’m not sure. Seems very strange.

       • Thats exactly what i was thinking. How could he not see the washing machine. And that body was so bloated…no way did they not smell it. I cant imagine a crime scene examiner would not see this? Which leads me to my first question….Jodi sweety…it isnt worth it…please uncover who you are protecting. The church? The Hughs? Religion does not work this way. Or say it isnt the right way.

         • I completely agree Connie – unless she is scared.

187. Hi —

     Mormons are just as hypocritical as any other religion out there — what’s the deal?
     some women are good enough for sex but not good enough to marry?
     Ugh — this sentiment makes me sick. I think Jodi was mistreated and hung in there because she really loved this guy. She has no history of violence or lying. As she said, she lied in this case to save her ass and to cover for Travis’ behavior. I absolutely do not believe in the death penalty!
     Power to Jodi!

188. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/04/jodi-arias-crime-scene-photos_n_2412031.html#slide=1989442

     So, does the above^ URL show up as a link?…hope so, but I still dunno how to make a link out of something on here, so…

     Anyway, that’s the site & page where I watched the interrogation video, in case you’re interested…I dunno if it’s the same one they show in court, cuz I haven’t seen that day’s video, so I’m just making clear what I’m referencing from is all. It’s #38 in the crime scene photos. AND, I need to correct myself, in that it was on July 16, 2008, not June, as I had said…I just got the “J” months mixed up is all…sorry 🙂

     Also, this !@#$%* computer of mine, or the browser, or some damn thing (i’m starting to think the modem maybe?)…GRRR!! And this is @ Ann – I’m just acknowledging your reply. See, what happens is that sometimes newer posts don’t show up (on my end), even tho they were posted a couple of hours before I’m in the middle of writing one myself (like earlier), or even when I continually refresh the page…so in other words, I don’t see it/am not aware of it, so if things get out of sync, and it seems I missed something that was written, chances are I did, cuz it didn’t show up for me to see, so plz bear with, k? 🙂

     Anyway, I’ve now finally gotten all the posts that are on this page read, and man, I gotta say, I’m about ready to go out there my-damn-self to solve this thing…or maybe start my own blog or something-?–no, I’m realizing I’ve been neglecting my own website (my photography) way too much cuz of gettin’ so caught up in this biz (it is kinda hard not to tho, huh?…lol). I mean, one minute, I’m gettin’ totally irritated, cuz everybody is soooo far off the mark, and the next minute, I’m laughin’ my ass off, cuz everybody is soooo far off the mark…ha! A couple people early on came kinda close, and a couple did come real close, but still, nobody’s seeing it (shakes head)…they may be looking, but they’re not SEEing. Maybe it would help if I add a remark I meant to add in my earlier post. When I said, “…the main theory I’ve had pretty much from the very beginning”, I meant to follow that with, (when i learned of there being one certain element in particular involved in all this, that element being MORMONISM). So, class…Mary?, Ann?, anybody?? Yes, the Blood Atonement thing, and yes, it’s been mentioned (but surprisingly, only by a coupla ppl), but when it has, it’s always quickly followed with the automatic assumption that the blood in question was shed by Jodi’s hand, and then it’s on-an-on, back-an-forth, round-an-round about the same old things > their relationship, abuse, sex-sex-sex, and blahblahblah…AAHHH!! I swear, so many of the remarks made by them (J&T) have been taken and twisted so far out of context, and then “the people” take that as downright gospel, without looking on their own for downright facts instead, and…AAAHHHH!!! But, with regard to the “by Jodi’s hand”, what IF…it wasn’t?…hmm?? Okay, you may say, but why?…well, that’s the part that’s screaming to be seen…but just isn’t.

     Mmm. Ya know, changing direction slightly for just a minute here, I’m betting at least one of the jurors is just itching to suddenly jump up and scream at the top of their lungs, “STOOOOP!! WE GET IT! ENOUGH ALREADY!!” I mean, let’s touch base for a sec folks…this is a Murder 1 trial, with no less than Death on the table, and that jury is supposed to be there to decide the guilt or innocence of the defendant (in this case, of premeditated murder) BASED ON THE -> EVIDENCE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT the four-letter word I refer to is…f-e-a-r. No, it’s NOT funny, but “jus fer fun”, I’ll play JM fer a sec, and have you look that up in Webster’s (giving ref. to def’s. 1a, 2 and 4 of the word).

     See y’all_ 🙂

     • yes it is a link. And your last statement is the big statement. BEYOND A RESONABLE DOUBT. And this case is covered with doubt. or Jodi my dear….you are a very dumb girl….lol No disreprect….but who leaves so much evidence behind? Maybe Jodi was given a drug of some sort. i just know…if she did this….she wasnt alone. Yes i know you said you did Jodi. But whole else?

       • @ Connie – Man, I’m ready to throw this damn computer of mine out on the damn highway!! ARRGGHHHH!!!! Almost HALF of my post (this one you’re replying to) DIDN”T POST!! WTF!??? After the REASONABLE DOUBT part to which you’re referring, there was a lot more…which of course I can’t remember now…and of course, it was all good sh**. ARGGHH!! I was in a hurry as I posted (on the way out to run into town real quick), and didn’t notice it happened until I just now got back. I’ve got IE up, so lemme pull it up with Chrome, and see if it all posted there.
         Plz exuse my tone guys, but this is totally f…well, I’ll play nice & say MESSed up, but I think you know what I’m saying.
         So again, gimme a min, while I pull things up w/Chrome, and I’ll get back at ya.

189. Okay, damnit, it happened again – Mary, you replied to my earlier post, but I only just now saw it when I posted again…sorry. Reading thru it real quick, I’m giving you cyberclaps on the back :D, and can only say (as in Goldfinger), “Go on, Mr. Bond”.

     Gotta go fer now, and will write more later…plz check my latest, k?

     • gshots1,

       Your comments are at best interesting although perhaps “way out there”. Please allow me to respond with the utmost of respect. I get your desire to make some kind of sense of it all but, in my opinion, there are some important facts missing from the discussion. Your belief that there may be more involved than is or is not being told may be hold some validity but what more is involved may be difficult to deal with because of complexity and disorder.

       The intruder story makes no sense whatsoever and that has already been proven. As weird as it may be it is typical of denial to stay in the “hiding place”. I disagree with your opinion that even without abstract sense we will never know what happened that fateful day.

       We do indeed know what happened that day, the shell casing found in a pool of dried blood and whether or not the gunshot happened first really has no merit and does not support pre-meditation. The intruder angle, seriously? even Jodi proved that to be an attempt to deny her involvement. As for Chris and Sky Hughes what would possibly be their motive? The evidence shows that they were concerned about Jodi’s involvement with Travis and his history of abuse towards other women that they were aware of. As for the camera, in my opinion it was placed in the washer by mistake as Jodi tried to clean up the scene. I completely agree that she does not remember this nor does she remember other facts related to killing Travis.

       Again, it is clear to me that Jodi did indeed kill Travis and should be held accountable for her actions. However, when is it ever going to be acceptable to recognize and deal with abuse before it escalates to the tragedy of lives lost.

       I have been following this trial from the beginning, listened to much testimony, abuse from Juan Martinez and biased opinions of media. However I do believe that the jury responsible for the fait of Jodi will in fact do the right thing. Their questions support this. Twelve collective minds will recognize how and why this tragedy happened. The testimony of Alyce LaViolette will prove to be the most intelligent and effective of all. Lesson for all of us!

       • So Eilleen you dont see the Hughes as “hiding” something? They banned Travis from their home while seeing Jodi. Sky took the stand and lied…or hid truth lets say. She testified that she watches the case and calls the PA when she sees something that will help Travis? She and her husband dont sit right with me. I dont believe the intruder story but if it were true…they would make a good suspect. I believe Jodi did do this…but I feel in my heart it wasnt just her and it wasnt a crime of passion….this girl is confused and like Patty hertz….did what she was told to do. Charles Manson did it….Jim Jones did it. Think they need to look into this PPL a bit deeper…the leader is at the top of that pyramid scam. Yes I am babbling…..I just dont really know….I just cant see all this mess being done by this little girl….she is not evil…..she is a lonely spirit starving for direction…..just got it from a very bad person. or persons.

190. Well, I’ve tried & tried, but I’ve got the Chrome up, and that one part of my earlier post seems to have gotten tossed to the four winds somehow, and I don’t have time right now to try & remember it all…gotta get to bed cuz of an early Dr’s (ugh) appt in the morning. I’ll do my best to recall what I can, and post tomorrow. Somehow, I think I’m on the verge of being tagged as a complete loon…lol…but hey, that’s okay 😀 😀

     @ Mary – Ah, dear Mary…you & I, I think, would indeed be the holdouts if we were on the jury…lol…you think? Seriously tho, you’re starting to see the light now I think, and well, if you wanna hear the whole nuts & bolts of the theory, I’d love to hear from you 🙂

     G’nite all… 🙂

191. Is it possible travis was using steroids to get ready for his trip and went into a rage? Does anyone know if that would of been tested at autopsy? If not the defence may want to order one roid rage is real

     • Kaitlyn,

       I seriously doubt that he was on steroids…. he didn’t even intake caffeine….. and no drugs in his systems..

192. I also want to add there’s ALWAYS REASONABLE DOUBT there’s only TWO people who know what happened that NIGHT

193. @ qshots – Yes we would definitely be the holdouts. There is no way I would convict her of anything – not the least of any crime. I don’t care if people think I’m crazy or not I don’t believe she was involved in any crime. I surely would not allow anyone to pressure me to convict her of a thing. I’d love to hear more from you. We must be the only 2 people on the planet who believe she is 100% INNOCENT of ANYTHING. The only thing I think she’s guilty of is her choice in men. So why did she confess? Lot’s of people confess to crimes they did not commit. Nobody believed her when she told the truth; I do believe she was threatened and is scared; Maybe she’s even brainwashed. I’m sick to death of the media convicting her. I saw the tape they keep showing on HLN of her and Travis when he was telling some story about having a gun put to his head. They examined every move and tore her apart. The only thing I saw was a girl who was tired and maybe heard the story several times before. The media is not letting her get a fair trial. I do hope that there is at least one juror who takes his/her job seriously enough to see there is more than reasonable doubt. From everything that I have seen there is NO DOUBT she is INNOCENT.

     • @ Mary – Hey, g’morn. 🙂 (tho this particular morn, i certainly don’t feel like that smiley face indicates…raging headache). I’m slooowly getting ready for my appt., and don’t have time to say a lot. However, I do fully agree with regard to that tape you referred to…the media is definitely putting the cart before the horse with all of this, and that’s putting it mildly.

       I saw a brief snippet of something last night relating to the timeline that stunned the crap outa me, but haven’t been able to get any more info to substantiate it…will let ya know when I do.

       I would indeed love to share and discuss in more depth the nuts & bolts of my theory with you, and hear more details of your own views, but in different surroundings than here…any ideas on how to “escape” from here…lol-? (and no, that’s not saying anything against this site, ok admin?) Hmm…well, lemme get this appt. thing outa the way, and think on it…you do the same, and maybe we can figure somethin’ out. Actually, there is a way you can reach me, and it’s not hard, but you’ll have to figure it out yourself…ha, I know that sounds harsh or something, but it’s just that I’m not wanting to inadvertently attract a bunch of naysayers by explaining it on here (did that make sense?…lol. i’m in flight mode right now & not thinkin’ straight).

       Gotta go…ta-ta 😀

       • @ qshots – OK – I’m trying to locate you 🙂

         • @ Mary – OK, great 😀 It’ll be a relief when you do, so contact can be
           carried out thru a more reliable outlet…at least for me, at my end,
           cuz like, I’ve had this page pulled up, refreshed, re-refreshed, and
           on-an-on since this afternoon, but for me, this post of yours only just
           decided to show up about an hour ago. Eh, it’s a techie thing
           really…has to do with scripting, etc. with the browsers, etc., and
           mostly on my end. My partic. comp. ended up being on a recall list of
           sorts, with a certain # of them being built with a glitchy mobo of some
           kind. It’s never anything major, but just little things that may
           cooperate one day, but not the next and so on, and just enough of ’em as
           to be really irritating, ya know? I won’t get geeky on it, but in this case, it’s basically a matter
           of how this new (to it) site is formatted, and with all the traffic vs.
           how my comp. wants or doesn’t want to mesh with it. But at the same
           time, most reg. prgrms. like email and such stay stable and work fine.
           (shrug) O well, that’s just the way it is.
           At any rate, once you make it, sorry ’bout the journey it takes…it’s
           just the cautious side at work, ya know?…besides, the change of pace
           should be welcome…do let me know 🙂
           So, as I wait for you, I’ll toss out a totally tasty morsel, just for
           the rumourmill (isn’t this fun?). This was in a comment I read on another page: “And who
           waits 5 days to check on Travis when (>) the people in Cancun already
           heard on the 4th that Travis was dead!!?” MMMmm, that IS a TAsty morsel,
           yes?…mm-MMMM!! There was also something about 2 of the people that
           found Travis telling diff. stories about it-?? Indeed, can the author of
           these, or anyone else for that matter, give elaboration on either of
           these things please?
           And th-th-that’s all for n-now folks…sleep well 🙂

     • Mary
       I’m believe Jodi is innocent. The law on self defence is clear – it is a complete defence.
       Somebody who is attacked and in fear of their life is innocent if they defend themselves.
       Both in law, morally and in every way.
       There are some difficult questions relating to carrying on an attack once the need to defend yourself is over. My view is that this should not be considered wrong until rationality is restored – which in Jodi’s case was many hours after she killed Travis.
       The law may disagree, in that case, I disagree with the law.

       • I might also say that’s it’s unclear whether Jodi did in fact carry on her attack. EIther way, she is still entirely innocent as far as I’m concerned.

194. Today the defense expert (Alyse? I cant remember her name ever) is talking about domestic abuse and to me she is making very good points but then again I am coming from a perspective of having dated a man for over three years that was very much like TA; he was a jekyl and hyde, false persona to the world, hot and cold constantly to the point it made your head spin… and yes I was suspicious after a year of the on and off kindness and cruelty; put downs, belittlement, sexual dominance, etc. Everything this expert says is making sense as to why Jodi stayed and kept trying to get back the “nice and wonderful” times she experienced in the beginning and what I see are these experts down playing all of this like “big deal it doesnt mean domestic violence” THAT IS BULL SHIT that it doesnt because IT IS DOMESTIC ABUSE which escalates to violence.Every time there is evidence of it they down play it saying it doesnt mean he was abusive… um what the hell does then? There was one attorney I think that spoke up this evening (miracle) whom I have never seen before on HLN and said it indeed was abuse and the shaking of the heads and refusal to accept his statements was appauling! But if Jodie wears the same color as her attorney this is scrutinzed to the point of ridiculousness? Anything negative about TA is totally washed aside…. that they are still waiting for the abuse and lets further corrupt the public view by all the memorials to Travis! This expert knows exactly what she is talking about! and all these so call attorneys are not listening to a word. Has any of them ever experienced an abusive person? I seriously find myself watching this saying “didnt you just hear the woman? are they dense? This is why women dont come forward, exactly what we are seeing happen in this trial where they are not heard. I dont think anyone deserves to be killed but I certainly think the abuse was in her state of mind. To me its a disgrace to victims to not listen in this case. They can keep shaking their heads all they want, they dont get it and I find it disgusting they think they know it all as what abuse looks like… maybe they need some formal training in this and to go back to school!

     • @ L – It wouldn’t matter to them if there was a video of TA body slamming her – they would say it wasn’t abuse. They are against everything Jodi – including the way she breathes. I can’t stand the way the media has crucified her. She definitely experienced abuse at the hands/mouth of TA. All that said – I will never be convinced that she is the person that killed him. There is no fair and balanced for Jodi anywhere in the media. Let’s hope the jurors are fair.

     • You can’t beleive any people on HLN they are all against Jodi. If they have a new person on that sorta sides with Jodie’s defense they will be cut off when speaking. It’s like another poster said “small minded people think they are truthful because they are on TV”. Dr. Drew is going to be sorry for participating in
       the mob. He has lost alot of viewers.

195. Mary, I believe you. I dont think it matters what evidence there is that TA was abusive. They will say it doesnt prove it wasnt a one time thing or how it doesnt mean she had to defend herself…. I am sick of hearing how “everyone agrees that shes psycho” and everyone sees what a wonderful man this was.. really EVERYONE? who the hell are we? Im not saying anyone deserves to be killed but she cant cry right, she cant smile, she cant talk, she cant do a thing right to these ppl. NO WONDER ABUSE VICTIMS SUFFER IN SILENCE. They are doing more harm than good in my book by shutting up anything about the abuse… women are learning, dont speak, you wont be believed! Its awful, your right… hoping the jurors are fair.

196. The world has been brainwashed by aliens, we here on this site are the last of the human race who have minds of our own, and have enough intelligence and common sense to fend off HLN and the aliens attempts lol (i’m kidding of course, but sometimes it does seem that way). I do hope juror #5 who was removed from the jury does come forward and give her story of exactly why she was removed. Maybe she was the ONLY one who believed Jodi was innocent of murder 1 o.O

     Lets hope thats not the case 🙂

     • @Jinx – Seriously they have been brainwashed by aliens. As far as Juror 5 goes the media is suggesting she was pro prosecution – but who can believe the media on anything that involves this case.

197. THe media doesnt want anyone to dare speak differently than stating someone is for the prosecution (or your audio will be turned off anyway) and oh how they felt so bad for that juror and how she was such a great juror…. maybe she was but im curious if she was not for the prosecution would they say that? THIS IS BLATANTLY BIASED and honestly someone needs to call HLN on it on live TV. I really think enough is enough. Jodi lied yes cause she prob didnt think any one would be believe her and how horrifying to have to do that but what they are doing is proving her right… they are not believeing there was abuse here, once again a victim is not believed… and the cycle repeats. A disgrace really.

     • Yes it is blatantly biased. I refuse to watch HLN ever again. I use the link to azcentral.com on this site and watch the trial without all the biased commentary. I honestly cannot understand why they(the media) is crucifying her. There is no way anyway can convince me that some of the jurors are not watching the coverage of the trial. I believe in my heart Jodi is completely innocent but think the jurors will convict her solely based on public opinion (or at least the biased media) and not on the evidence. I pray that there is at least one juror that will judge her based on the evidence. That’s the only way Jodi stands a chance.

198. I was finally able to read the Flores report today, and here’s my “Top 40” on it, in no particular order (a copy-&-paste from Notepad as i was going over it) —

     1) the clear plastic cup
     2) Flores noticed blood stain on washer, but didn’t so much as lift the lid for a quick look even
     3) Karl Brinton Hiatt…he’s severely downplayed…who is he & what’s his story??
     4) Marie (Mimi) Hall, Michele Lowry, Dallin Forrest–entered house & went upstairs to find Zach (Z) & Amanda–they notice laptop & phone, but no smell-?
     5) Z coming home Monday night, but no smell
     6) Enrique (E) seeing TA Wed 4th morn. AND in evening after work (gets home 1800-1830 hrs)…says he members TA on phone…why no record of that call? did they check?
     7) Z’s day off Wed. 4th & him leaving that morn., but nothing asked/said about car (Jodi’s) in driveway–he was also returning a rental car (any bells?), as his car had been in accident…hmm
     8) Z last seeing TA THUR. morn. @ 1130 hrs
     9) Z spent entire day, Thur. 5th, w/Amanda & home @ midnite that nite
     10) Z thinks he did laundry on Sat. 7th, then says Wed. 4th
     11) Z’s battery dead on Sun. 8th & was asking neighbor for jump cables, but E remembers Z talking to him about cables on Sat. 7th
     12) Were neighbors questioned?
     13) front door locked
     14) TA would PAY J for cleaning his house (?) says Z
     15) TA’s sister (Samantha) a COP!?…uh, need I say more?
     16) a cop doing PHONE interviews-? (lack of being able to get facial reactions, etc.), in a Homicide inves.?..wtf??
     17) E said the doggie fence was across the stairs THUR. eve. (day AFTER killing)…who put it there?
     18) on the night of discovery, J called & ASKED to speak to investigators, but they somehow didn’t have the time, or what?…and this, after the “friends crew” had all pointed fingers at her already…don’t ya think Flores should’ve jumped at the chance to talk to her right then & there?
     19) according to Flores’ FIRST talk w/her (phone), J said last time she spoke to TA was 06/04/08 between 2000-2130 hrs. (2-1/2 to 3 hrs. AFTER his death), yet Flores has always said that she said at FIRST that it was April…well, which is it-?
     20) how did Dan Freeman (another who-is-he?) find out about TA’s death to be able to tell J of it the same night he was found?
     21) Ashley Thompson–what’s up with her? From what I gather, she offed herself at some point later-? (in other words, is one of the REAL killers now dead?) Could her & Dustin (D) have been the man & woman?…she was saying they were having severe money problems, etc…who’s to say they didn’t go there, and…?
     22) there’s only 25 (not 27) stab wounds on M.E. report, seperate from the throat slashing and gunshot wound
     23) the two-night tire-slashing incident(s) (12/07/08-?)…they called in a report, but had to wait HOURS for officer to show-?
     24)John Hepworth, roommate from mid-to-Dec ’07…no followup mentioned on him
     25) E notices “unusual smell” Mon. (9th?) @ 2130 hrs. but didn’t say anything…that was the FIRST he noticed it-?…both E’s & Z’s rooms were UPstairs
     26) THur. eve. (06/05) was when E says he noticed living room was moved around, and watch & ring noticed on kitchen counter…E says again on followup he remembers last seeing TA walking down stairs talking on phone Wed. eve. (06/04) as he (E) was in kitchen eating–but Z remembers things being moved around on Tue. or Wed.
     27) E’s gf, Kim, seems not to have been interviewed at all-?
     28) Ashley T. wanting to move in w/TA after her seperation from D
     29) D agrees for interview “if needed”…well, wouldn’t you think that EVERYbody even remotely connected SHOULD be interviewed, and THORoughly…this is, after all, a homicide
     30) have always wondered why some of the pics are timestamped and others aren’t…and are there others that haven’t been shown?
     31) date-and-timestamps of pics, according to Flores, “PROVES that Jodi was the LAST person I can PROVE had contact w/Travis prior to his death”…uh, “prove”-?…just how may I ask?
     32) Flores says J called him on Sat. 06/21/08 and left a v-mail for him to call her when he had a chance–well, first, he says he doesn’t call her back until Mon. 06/24/08…if Sat. was the 21st, how could Mon. be the 24th??…also, if J was supposed to be such a prominent suspect, or at least lead, why wait 2 DAYS to call her back??…uh, afraid of missing that 18th hole on Sun., or something else of more “importance”?
     33) the palm print–Flores says, “The print was left by Jodi touching the wall with a bloody left hand”…man, what b.s. The blood could easily have already been on the wall when she touched it, duh! As for the DNA, it was a mixture of both their DNAs, not both their blood…her palm could have (most feasibly) been sweating when she touched the bloody wall. Now yeah, sadly for her, it does pretty much prove that she was at least there when whatever happened happened, but it does NOT PROVE she was the LAST, or the ONLY, one there
     34) the doggie door–dunno if J ever really did do that, but if she did, and she could fit thru it, then…hint: Ashley T. is/was listed on the report as being 5’3” & 115 lbs…hmm
     35) that clear plastic cup again
     36) and of course, the shell casing–is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that even though it’s sitting in a pool of blood, the casing itself is clean as a whistle, hmm??
     37) last, but certainly not least, the HUGHES…I trust them about as far as I can throw my car. I mean, first, she (Sky) is exuding concern for J, and letting her know of TA’s lurid ways, then she’s pointing fingers at J and talkin’ total trash about her…wtf?? And jus fer kix, why are their ages the only ones listed as “00” on the report?
     38) the smell…
     39) the smell…
     40) THE SMELL!!!

     @ Mary – Well, have ya found me yet? 🙂 (after all, i’m right in front of u…) You hit the mark with “based on the evidence”…damn straight! And check out #’s 21 & 34 of my list…hmm?

     • WOW – Nice work qshots. You lost me on the plastic cup – I’ll have to go research it now. Yes 21 & 34 hmmmmmm…. I’m still looking – I thought I found you and sent a message but apparently it wasn’t you. Now back to my where in the world is qshots adventure 🙂

     • @ QSHOTS – I just left a qomment – I’ll wait to see if that is you.

       • (yawn…slurps java)

         Mary – J.I.A.-? I’m not versed, so you’ll have to ‘splain that one (i’m sure it’s sumthin’ simple, but i’m a bit duhstupid at times, and you gotta bear with_ ha). Anyway, CONGRATULATIONS!! , and your comment definitely brought a smile to my face first thing in the morning 😀 It wasn’t really that hard, was it? Again, I apologize for the somewhat cryptic “journey”, but that whole side of things is on the complete opposite end of the spectrum than this, and most careful caution must indeed be imposed, if you can relate. At any rate, you’ve been answered, so I suggest you check it out (nod).

         Anyway, yes, the plastic cup…that one is baffling…but no more so than the rest of this dizzy affair I guess_ lol. And, with regard to # 34, makes ya wonder how big/small Sky Hughes is as well, eh?

         They may not have said so exactly yet, but I know there are those that think I’m totally “reaching” with some of my views, but (shrug) I don’t care. It just stirs me crazy sometimes the number of angles and possibilities that no one, especially the cops, seems to be noticing, much less paying attention to…they’re too busy instead going on-an-on-an-on about their relationship, and sex, sex, sex. Who cares?…they (especially & hopefully the jury) need to be focusing on the main issue at hand here, which is, point-blank, was it premeditated murder, yes or no, end of story. And I say again, PHONE interviews?, in a Homicide investigation??…what the hell kinda procedure is THAT??

         As far as Ashley T. is concerned, I think her death was a suicide…but plz don’t quote me on that. I’m pretty sure I read that somewhere, but as I’m sure you know, there’s sooo much info out there all over the place, you forget just where you read or saw what, you know?_ lol. I’ll try to find it again tho, and post on it.

         Meanwhile, something else I watched was the Dateline NBC episode of 03/01/13, entitled “Along Came Jodi”…have you seen that? Here’s the link for it::
         https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/transcripts-jodi-arias-is-innocent-cnn-cbs/along-came-jodi-dateline-nbc-jodi-arias-is-innocent/ (did that work?)

         Well, I’ll post this, and hope to see you soon 🙂

         p.s. – did i mention THE SMELL??

         • And btw, to clarify, the plastic cup was found beside TA in the shower, and with “very little blood on it”.

199. IM impressed with your thourough scrutiny of things qshots 1 but I think Jodi’s confession is taking front and center now. As for the cross examination of Alyce LaViolette (got her name this time!) Juan is going to make an ass of himself! He starts off coming at her like a rabid animal and her question if he is angry with her was great! He asks stupid questions and she is fantastic asking him if he wants the truth or a yes or no? Then he changes his question and is expecting her to remember from hundreds of pages of things she read and spit out specifics without directing her to even an area in the journal. His treatment of this likable, intelligent woman is going to portray the prosecution as desperate to convince others and if I was a juror I would question if the case is soo strong why the need to do that to her? If the case is so black and white why not just calmy discredit her? cause they cant. The prosecution seems to know TA was abusive and honestly they look like a bunch of idiots trying to say Jodi was. Nancy G had a friend of Jodi’s on tonight and she asked if she felt scared Jodi would have ever turned on her? Wtf? The friend answers “no” and its because the girl is not crazy! omg they just refuse to see this is not some diobolical girl that planned this! She was not psycho! Its so clear to me and I cant understand why no one gets this. One can still say it was horrible what happened to TA and still understand the nature of abuse and unfortunately what sometimes happens. Then they said Alyce was riled by Juan? She was NOT! NOT IN THE LEAST the woman almost seemed amused to me by his behavior that was totally inappropriate. Hes talking almost abusive to an abusive expert? seriously this is great cross examination? The only thing that is concerning in my book is the overkill… but if you were freaked out and thought you were going to be killed I can understand it not to mention the abuse was in her mind. Ive had enough of all the ignorance about this… if somoeone on this jury does not see this I will really lose my faith in justice.

200. @ L – I totally agree with everything you said. JM was acting like an abuser himself with his bullying way of questioning Alyce and no he absolutely did not “rile” her up, as you said she was smiling the entire time and did look to be amused by him and i can’t blame her “Snow White” haha…. i realize she used that title in her seminars but give me a break, he’s really hit rock bottom with that comparison. I think after the 3 or 4 days of AL describing the many forms of abuse, at least 1 juror will see JM is in fact 1 himself the way he bullys witnesses and yells and becomes angry. He’s lost the plot in my opinion 🙂

201. Okay, well, in another of my offhanded attempts at bringing a bit of lightheartedness into things —

     1) I was learning of the fact that the age of 30 is a really big deal to the Mormons…they “graduate” to a whole other ward, and are more or less expected to be married by then, etc. Well, has anyone here ever seen the classic, “Logan’s Run”? (i’m sure it’s just me, but…) I personally find the parallel somewhat amusing.

     2) There’s an old adage that says, “There’s always three sides to every story…your side, my side, and the truth”. Well, in this case, it appears to be, “Jodi’s side, Jodi’s side, and the truth”. (that’s just a JOKE folks, and is in no way meant bad toward Jodi, ok?…remember, i’m on her side, and believe her to be 100% innocent of anything connected w/the killing…except maybe the failure to report a crime, which yes, is a felony, but a low-grade one)

     And Mary, to clarify, they all did, but it was your comments above^ I was really referring to…the minute I saw just…well, I’ll wait to explain. See ya… 🙂

     • qshots – Great thank you I found it. I’ve been busy with yard work – preparing for Spring. I’ll be in touch this week.

202. well JM continues his absurb questioning of Alyce L. trying to compare the study of testing DNA to the study of psychology and domestic violence… ridiculous comparison seriously. If there was even a test like that to come to an opinion about abuse or domestic violence Im sure Alyce would have used it; but he continues to try and get her to say her opnion is subjective and therefore not based on anything but her brain. Hes comparing apples to onions and basically saying there has never been anything found on the study of domestic violence to base ones conclusion on… hes absurd and then he “mistakenly” calls this a “murder” and not a “killing”, correcting himself wtih his sarcastic tone. Alyce is doing a fantastic job in my book and came back to him that evidence showedTA was a liar and Jodi only had a history of lying after the killing. She stands her ground and I give her a lot of credit for not asking him if his opinion on Jodi is merely an opinion cause that is what I would do, Id ask him if he has a formula to say she is guilty of lying about the abuse? well? share your formula to punch into a computer like an DNA test? yes or no? lol. The outcome of these so calls “After Dark” game shows that goes on abuot this woman’s life is not only sad that they are doing this about a persons life but also its a total Asch experiment, a conformity experiment to see if they can get the jury and public to conform to what they portray on the network. How anyone can not believe she ensured abuse is beyond me. Im telling you its an asch experiment. Google it if you havent heard of it, They will make you think long lines are really short ones.

203. (sigh) Well, I truly don’t know how much more of this I’m gonna be able to do, as the “now you see ’em, now you don’t” thing with the comments has got me ready for a straitjacket. As a small example, I posted 4 comments on Sun. 7th, and they all showed up, but when I got back on that evening, they were all gone, along with a couple of other people’s posts. I made a comment about “Alyce’s Restaurant” (positive towards her), and another about JM and his Snow White Fantasy (negative against him, ha)…they were there, then they weren’t. So…

     Mary – plz excuse the repeated comments (of which there were a couple on Sun. aa well), but like I say, I dunno what’s showing up and what isn’t, so plz try to understand. All I know to say (again, lol) is, 1) You were DEFinitely at the right place on the 4th (where you left your qomment), so plz just go back there, read the reply, and do what it says to follow up, k? But, then again, 2) I’m not understanding, cuz you were obviously at the right place, which means you obviously now have my other reg. contact info anyway, so…? I do wish you’d make use of it, so that all can finally be explained in full and make sense (lol). Again, plz understand that I’m half in the dark here, as far as things not showing up on my end, and therefore, not knowing if they’re showing up or not for others as well (hope that makes sense).

     So, I’ll now post, hope you see this, and hope for the best…

204. People are getting so sucked in by the media. The media wants her to look just as bad and evil as they can for ratings. Some people get sucked into that. The mob mentality is frightening.

205. I don’t think Jodi will be convicted of first degree. I would vote for not guilty if I were on the jury b/c no way I would believe anything this prosecutor says after the antics he has pulled. His conspiracy theories are crazy. He thinks everyone is in love with jodi, the experts, everyone. He accuses them of being controlled by her, it’s crazy.

206. Okay, I’ve gone “under the hood” and done a couple things to my comp., and am posting this “test” comment to see if it shows up…and also, after I post it, I wanna see if any others’ new comments will suddenly show up that aren’t there now as I write this. Uh, make sense? (lol) Anyway…

     Hey Mary, still there? 🙂

     • I’m still here – I’ve just been super busy at work. I’ll be emailing you very soon.

       • Mary – Glad you’re still breathing 🙂 But ugh, w o r k-?…you really shouldn’t be saying such nasty four-letter words on here ya know…ha! Seriously tho, WooHoo…I’m glad you figgered it out, and I continue to look forward to your mail. 😀

         Actually, I’ve been a bit busy too with my own work (something brand new has been added over in my neck o’ the woods, and u should check it out), and I haven’t been able to keep up much with the trial…though somethin’ tells me I’m not missin’ much, lol. I mean, a person can take only so much of JM’s BS at a time, ya know? Jeez, what a little prick he is. I ask again, just what the f*** does Snow White have to do with whether or not Jodi Arias committed premeditated murder?…give it a rest! (shakes head) I’m hoping to get back to watching some of things later tonite, and posting in response.

         Anyway, hope this shows up for ya, and I look forward to hearing from you (continues twiddling thumbs). 😀

207. I agree about the media. They are making it a ratings race. Don’t move Jodi, they might make something of it on one of the nightly programs that night. Well, tonight it is poor Alyce…. Or, poor jurer #11 who was sick, or were they really sick. They just love to do the investigation and make such a big deal out of it. Don’t worry Jodi, it will all wash out in the end…. Alyce still looks great!

208. Here is something I don’t get. Why hasn’t the defense asked Alyce this:

     Do you have any possible motivation to being here other than getting at the truth and determining why this relationship escalated to this horrific event?

     Think about it.

     1. I’m sure she doesn’t need the money
     2. She certainly doesn’t need the fame or attention
     3. She doesn’t need the headache (that being the smart woman she is) is certain to follow when this case is over
     4. She doesn’t need the death threats or potential harm that would come to her or her family
     5. She doesn’t need something else to add to her CV
     6. She has had a very long and prosperous career and participating in this trial won’t change that in any way
     7. Her experience and incredible range of varied cases in DM must put her in the very top percentile of anyone in the field
     8. She answers every question professionally, doesn’t stumble at all, speaks with eloquence and knowledge – no matter how insulting, ridiculous and well beyond what should be asked in any courtroom in the US
     9. She obviously has an opinion that sides with the defense but she isn’t defensive in any way, just matter of fact
     10. She seems incredibly credible despite an abusive prosecutor, an idiotic judge seemingly oblivious to the law, and a mostly decided and biased jury (listening to their questions).

     This is ridiculous, as all of you here do know.

     I do think the one thing that would have helped her (although this is me talking, probably not in her nature which is telling in and of itself), is if she were to toss in “That’s a very good question” when answering the juror questions. This would shamelessly feed some of their simple-minded egos. Kermit would object, but she could still continue to do it and I think it would be helpful.

     Also, since Kermit repeatedly asks the same question over and over and over again and the defense team should be objecting as often as his disruptive demeanor is, she should have answered with, “I just answered that and I will answer again, but my answer isn’t going to change this time.”

     Lisa

209. Perhaps I’ve overlooked this information but can anyone tell me if Jodi hears the messages we leave for her? Can I send her anything through the mail? Thanks

210. I read AI’s comments on the main page. Can anyone tell me what actions she/he is referring to about Travis Alexander’s families actions? I missed something and want to get caught up. I refuse to watch media coverage of this anymore because there is nothing fair and balanced in the media when it comes to Jodi.

     • I stopped watching HLN and only watch live streams of trial coverage on my computer now. So much easier to watch with out all those commercials and lies that that they go on with.

211. Finally – it appears that the work H.J. Blankenship did on TA’s left eye (which shows several people in TA’s eye) is coming into evidence. This hopefully will set JA free.

212. Well, Ive come to a plateau about my ranting about HLN. Nancy G. clearly does not understand some of what is said by any defense attorneys and the BIAS on her show is clearly evident by calling them gnats! The expert for the defense seems to know her S?!# but interestingly didnt give a PTSD test only one for personality and an IQ test (which I have given that IQ test not the MMPI though). I think that might have helped them or maybe hurted them and that is why they didnt give it? I also think that borderline personality disorder and PTSD can both be primary diagnosis in one individual as clearly not being validated as a child over and over causing BPD can also cause Trauma. Not being validated for ones feelings, thoughts as a person seems like abuse to me and often the abused will seek another abuser. I am clearly objective and I do think it is a battle for the defense but the gray areas in terms of the diagnosis and if the two can exist at the same time I believe are in the defense’s favor. I am not clear why evidence is not reported on if those with BPD lash out at others or themselves and put themselves in abusive situations but from what I recall from my schooling in psych they are more apt to turn anger inward and attach to new abusers. hmm? I think this line of questioning should be pursued by the defense as to a dual diagnosis possibility and research on how the instability and lack of identiy are usually turned inward. Obviously she has more schooling and experience than me but I am pretty certain of my thoughts and I think some of the subscales and how they are interpreted and the language should be clarified for this jury because psych is crawling with acronyms that if you dont go to school for this like I did I would be lost as well. And furthermore BDP does not come out of nowhere, it is developed very much through environment and how one is treated through life, if Jodi has it it did not come out of a vaccum is all I am saying and yet no one feels a thing for this girl. I feel for TA too and his family but IM sure BPD is suffering as well and I think all of what I have said needs to be taken into consideration. My understanding is that Narcissism is related to BPD and they often develop relationships with one another, there is no talk if TA was narcissistic and maybe that is cause he cant get an eval but I think from the evidence this possibility should be explored. Narcissists are more sociopathic then BPD’s who are overly sensitive and emotional and almost feel emotions too much… yet Narcissists have not conscience for the abuse they cause. Couldnt it be he was more sociopathic? Lot of doubt in my mind this was premed still and yet I will say this expert Dr. DeMarte is a smart woman but so is Alice LaViolette and why are scores approaching signifigance not even looked at or very low scores? Seems if they are approaching clinical significance or at least outside of the normal range this is still important as every test is not 1005 reliable. Lot of weight on this jury. Little compassion or desire to really truly try to understand this by HLN.

213. Sorry miss typed, I meant the expert for prosecution I was referring to and that no test is 100% reliable. Theres a lot on Borderlines developing relationships with Narcissist Personality disorder diagnosed individuals and Narcissism is more related to psychopathology or being a sociopath. There is quite a bit out there on comorbidity probably in having BPD and PTSD both as a diagnosis in one person as well. Dr. Sam Vaknin has said a lot on these topics and he has many videos on YouTube.
     Id be interested to hear if anyone else sees a possible relationship in that TA may have been Narcissistic. (this is a thought as there is a lot out there on this) Heres some links. Even one on NPD individuals becoming church leaders and again the relationship between the two.

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQyvSRkauwo

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgQrllDie10

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsIYveXbzF4

     • I’ve read his work. Doesn’t Dr. Sam Vaknin claim also be a narcissistic person as well as an expert? I know there is a debate within psychology to remove that diagnosis from the DMSV based on the argument that everyone possesses the traits to some degree? I think they want to include the symptoms under ASPD but am not sure on that. I would agree that travis may have suffered from this disorder as he was described as someone who fed on compliments. Thank you for your input.

214. Yes I believe that Dr. Sam Vaknin is a self proclaimed Narcissist ( I believe) but his work is eye opening for those who have been in a relationship with these people (I have dated a man like this and had difficulty seeing this in him even having gone to Grad school for psych). They create a false personal image to others that is very different thant he true self (no one knew a lot about TA, his sex life and proclaiming he was a virgin, wealthy, etc) , they also idealize (hence Jodi’s feeling of TA making her feel like the most beautiful woman ever and then degrade and devalue (hence her stomach shaking and waiting for him to go from Jekyl to Hyde) and then discard (silent treatment she experienced). The cycle then repeats cause they cant handle if the victim doesnt come to want them back… and the mind games of idealization repeat totally confusing the victim and making her question if he really does love her. They are often unfaithful, get bored of the same woman and treat women and others as objects (hence wanting sex with not even a verbal exchange to then get in his car and drive off, the verbal comments as a joke to put her down, etc). Im not proclaiming TA had this but from what I see it seems very possible and they also VERY often develop relationships with those who have a poor self image or identity issues cause they can control them. They are also prone to rage. Hmm? reasonable doubt here? Thank you for letting me share my thoughts. A few more interesting videos.
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFahESPWgbU&list=PL677DFE5A3F4F900B
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNxWewDtP70&list=PL677DFE5A3F4F900B

215. I can not find any of my posts on here. I am very pro Jodi. Can someone let me know by email?

     Thank you

216. Hello all, I have been supporting Jodi as well as I could on another site, but the thread got closed because it got too abusive (not me btw lol). Even the self claimed psychologists were getting in on it. They seriously don’t understand themselves or this situation. My issues are regarding the Mormon Church, sexism, blatant cruelty towards Jodi, and the sick twisted mindset of the ‘believers’.
     Travis Alexander had exactly the same narcissistic wounding as Jodi. I know she killed him, and I understand why. The rampant sexism in this case is overwhelming, and nobody can stand far enough away to see it.
     I don’t live in the USA, so most of what I see/hear is online. I’m truly astonished that her defence has not sought to bring up issues the of the church, but it’s likely a follower is on the jury.
     The double standards and sexual repression is horrible, pressurised and makes ‘whores’ out of normal people having normal sex lives. Not the men of course, who are just fine and dandy with an option of 23 wives. I know that refers to a breakaway group, but the values are the same. I refer you to the book ‘Damned Whore’s and God’s Police’, by Anne Summers. It’s a feminist argument, but it is so relevant in this situation.
     I know these people to be abusive, my work in child protection taught me that. The bishops were downright
     dangerous and blocks ways to maintain safety for children and mothers. So it’s not my first go around, I have had a working knowledge. I am truly stunned by the dumbed down level of discourse in the news and commentary, even the ‘talking heads’ have nothing to add, why? Can’t they see it?
     Ok, I’m done with the frustration, thanks for letting me vent. Good luck for Jodi, she’ll need it in this mess.

217. TA had narcissistic wounding coming out of earholes. So does Jodi. It’s likely they represented in each other the cruel parent who was responsible for the damage. That was the real Law of Attraction! With secretive/banned/out of bounds/judged/’abnormal’/sex on the side. Totally laughable church, moronic in fact. so the name fits.
     He baptised her for heaven’s sake, he was incredibly powerful in her mind.
     (sorry, I’m talking to myself)…I get quite annoyed about this!
     Why don’t people get it?

     • yes, he was way, way too powerful in her mind. I hadn’t thought about the power he took from her by baptizing her. wow. She sufferered from learned helplessness and learned hopefulness. I cannot believe folks don’t get it. He was one sick puppy, and I believe she dropped the camera and he went for her. I was a battered wife. I know how difficult it is for folks to understand why women stay, especially if no children, have job, etc. It is a control issue. Jodi had a kind of wide eyed, peace to the world, love everyone sort of quiet soul advancing personality, until she met TA. I hurt for her, truly.

218. Well its all coming to a close… Im glad they got someone on the stand that said that the borderline and PTSD (battered womens syndrom) can co exist but my thoughts on the dynamics of TA being narcissistic may not have been admissable due to no way to evaluate him. Im not clear on what the definition of “reasonable” in reasonable doubt is but I think the jury has the option of convicting on a lesser charge, my area is more the psych stuff than legal … so after this 5 month long journey I just hope all who are objective and fair will pray for Jodi and for justice as well as that the Alexandars have some peace if the outcome is indeed that Jodi did not premeditate this, personally had I been a juror Id not of sound mind convict her of 1st degree and if that infuriates the masses then I guess it does. Id not have a purposeful death on my conscience unless my feeling was that there was no reasonable doubt … again my question what is reasonable to the legal system? I think Jodi will do time but pray that all have some peace and that God helps the Jury to see what is right in this horrific situation, God bless,

     • I just don’t get it? Travis was obviously a bully and a secret to everyone as to what he was doing sexually. Chris and Sky Hughes are just plain evil…and they call themselves Christians. The mind boggles.

219. ……………

220. I have been commenting on the youtube pages constantly and trying my best to point out how ignorant the bloodsucking anti-Jodi morons are. My thoughts are totally with Jodi…I can’t say I am praying as I am an athiest…I just hope that just one Juror doesn’t want to see this girl executed. I will endeavour to keep trying.

     • From what i’ve seen on those youtube boards 99% of them have been brainwashed by the media and are beyond reasoning with. Good of you to try to get them to look at things objectively but i think its a lost cause. It’s only a few hours away now until the defense slams the door shut on the prosecutions case. We’re all with you Jodi, wish you, and your team all the best today, you shall prevail 🙂

221. I finally figured out how to post here (I hope). I want to say I am so so tired of the media and *everyone* on HLN bashing Jodi! It is the same thing I saw them doing to Casey Anthony and it makes me sick. No matter what Jodi does, they pick it apart and sound like adult bullies. I just don’t get how people can act like this or be allowed to make 24 hour nasty comments on a tv station that is owned by CNN. I know Jodi admitted to shooting Travis and am sorry he is dead. However, it sounds to me like he treated Jodi terribly. He obviously had some sort of problem with children and sex with his comment about the 12 year old girl moaning. I liked the defense comment today saying he wondered how Travis knew what a 12 yo sounded like. I hope this jury remembers all these things when they go into deliberations on Monday. I hope Jodi can keep her spirits up. My heart breaks for her.

222. I didn’t have any knowledge about this murder case until I started watching it on T.V. The 1st time I watched “IN SESSION”, I immediately felt that this is a girl responding to being attacked.

     Because Travis had been physically abusive towards Jodi in the past, it caused her to become scared of him when he got angry with her.

     This time when he came towards her in anger and was going to physically hurt her, and could have very well threatened to kill her, it triggered Jodi’s brain to re-call the last time he had attacked her and then her brain automatically told her body to go into a “Survival Mode”. During this time, she defended herself against “her attacker”, while being scared to death, that if she didn’t kill him…he was going to kill her.

     Travis, I believe, had “Schizophrenia”. He obviously had two different personalities.

     Travis #1 – The Travis his church members and family members seen him as.
     Travis #2 – The Travis that stayed hidden, so no one would find out about him. His sexual deviant
     behaviors had to stay a secret or it would eliminate Travis #1.
     Travis #2 – “Only” came out, when he an Jodi were alone together.
     Travis #2 – Only existed in Jodi’s and Travis’ world…it was their “secret” that stayed concealed and
     hidden from everyone else, as if it didn’t exist.

     **That in itself puts Jodi at “High Risk” – if she told anyone!

     The Charge of “Stalking Travis”…..”Not Guilty” (not enough evidence)
     The Charge of “Pre-meditated Murder”….”Not Guilty”

     Jodi is neither a cold-blooded killer nor an evil person.

     In my opinion, the evidence that was presented in court, was not convincing enough – to determine WITHOUT A DOUBT, that she had planned ahead of time to kill Travis.

     I say something went bad or wrong during the time when she and Travis were at his home the day of the murder. I believe and agree that deadly physical force was required immediately …in self-defense.

     If the jurors have pre-judged her like the New Reporters did, they should all be eliminated from the process. From the beginning the Reporters presented her as a cold-blooded killer. Here I am just finding out about the case and the New Reporters are trashing Jodi. Boy that made me mad!

     In closing I want to say, that the town and state in which this occurred has had four years for Travis’ family to rally, publicize and get the sympathy of the people while Jodi has been locked up. Therefore it is my opinion that if any of the jurors are from that area, the chances of them being prejudice against Jodi are very high.

     Good Luck Jodi! My Prayers are with you.

223. I agree with you.

     The women at HLN do not seem to have “uterus.” They spend all day hating on Jodi and enhancing everything to make her look like a monster, just to be on TV. These individuals (Disgrace, The “doctor,” and the loud mouth Mitchell) act as if they were present when everything happened. But as much as they accuse Jodi of lying, they are biased 100% as well.

     His friends and HLN portrait him as a ‘Godlike man’ for whom Jodi kept drooling over. These people are so corny! As much as they have been dissecting Jodi. I have been studying them as much and must say that these people are sick with hate, narcissism, prejudice, and obsession. I feel sorry for their poor souls!

     Throughout my life, I’ve noticed that this type of women (and men) are the reason we have not evolved to elect a “‘Woman President.” There are too many females out there who are very Catty and UN-supportive of other women. It is very sad to see…………………………………………………………………………….:)

     I don’t agree with killing anyone, but as a survivor of domestic violence, I know for a fact that in the heat for “defending yourself from an attack ,” a person is capable of anything. To this day, I have not forgotten the abuse to which my Exes subjected me to. I just thank God that I run to a women shelter and managed to walk away with out dirtying my hands with trash…

     Today, I prefer to be single than to participate in toxic relationships.

     I hope that Jodi stays ‘Strong as Always.’ I know that sometimes she cries, but crying will cleanse her soul and make her stronger. I also would like her to remember that the greatest “Love” that she could ever experience is the one she ought to feel “for herself.” I hope she wins the case and finds a good guy in the future. I hope she meets a good man that does not feel to be “better than her.”

     After learning about both, Travis and Jodi I realize that she is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too good for him (She is a Great artist, writer and Thinker, Speaker, Singer and so on). . He did not deserve her.

     MT:)

224. The whole thing is sad. Jodi is a very beautiful woman, intelligent, talented, those are facts. She could have been or done anything. Whatever kept her going back to TA, I’ll never know, she could have done better. From what I saw of the trial, Travis’ ex-girlfriends were no were near as intelligent (or pretty) as Jodi, they appeared desperate to beat the 30 yr old “deadline” to get married and any Mormon guy was fair game. Travis strikes me as being kind of an a**hole in general, nothing special, kind of goofy, definitely had issues. Not that he deserved to be killed, I wasn’t there, so I have no idea what happened. The media has gone off the rails with this, HLN is hard to stomach at times, Nancy Grace is so effin abrasive I want to smack her; JVM screams constantly; V. Politan likes to hear himself talk, Joey Jackson, Beth Karas (most objective) and Jean Casarez are tolerable for the most part. I’ve read the “she’s guilty” site as well as this site. I don’t want to personally attack anyone, it’s a waste of engergy, we’re all human beings, things like this trial tend to bring out the best and worst in us. I was with my abuser for 7 years, I came very close to blowing his head off, seriously, had it planned to the tee, the only thing that stopped me was the fear of spending my life locked up….to me that would mean he won, he’d be gone, but I’d be royally screwed; so, as far as Jodi is concerned, all I can say is “there but for the grace of God go I.”

     • Sorry Athena, I was following you until one point. I can’t agree when you said Jackson, Karas, and Casarez are tolerable or for Karas being most objective. Maybe, if any, Casarez. Jackson constantly jerks his body when he talks, not for one moment stopping to take a breath. He also made a disgusting comment one night on After Dark. He said something about Jodi then followed with something like she is not going to be alive for long. Caras is all for the prosecution and think she knows everything on earth when it comes to this case, she sounded so thrilled after the verdict to call the crime a murder. Listen closely next time, you’ll start seeing what I mean. Not trying to be nasty to you, just don’t give these people credit the do not deserve, they have no respect for our justice system.

225. Hello to the Jodi Arias amazing team…I think you have been the most amazing supporters for Jodi,and I am proud to call myself a Jodi team member. As much as I hope and pray that Jodi will walk free, I have to accept that this won’t happen. I want to tell you that I don’t support The Death Penalty, and as such, I hope that whatever is handed down by the jury, i don’t want to hear those dreaded words. I am being realistic that a guilty verdict is the decision that we will hear, however, if Jodi is found guilty on murder two, it will be a blessing, and she will be eventually free. I think the admins of this support page have been incredible and i admire your tenacity from the bottom of my heart…Yes, I am team Jodi, I don’t want to hear the dreaded punishment. Love and peace to you all.xx

226. I have been following the trial….My opinion..self defense!!!!!

227. Hello everyone: Great site. It has helped me, psychologically. I hope that it helps Jodi. She unfortunately got mixed up with a psychopath. When he called her a sociopath, he was really talking about himself. His world was me, myself and I. His world was mixed up because of his childhood, IMHO. He selected her because he sensed that she would be the perfect ‘ victim.’ She thought that he, in his fancy suits and having a great tongue (Speaking at those rallies) that he was mr. Perfect. He might have been Mr. Pervert—what guy speaks to a woman like that? Three holed wonder? 12 year old girl? Come on! Still, didn’t a guy named Warren J. ‘marry such multiple young girls? Wasn’t he a Moron, I mean Mormon? The whole thing is sad. This woman is so talented, she could not have even realized it— imagine listening to the garbage from him at those ‘motivational speeches’ and thinking that he was so wonderful. To me, he had all the markings of a Classic Psychopath. Too bad she ever met the perv. Thanks for listening.

228. Jody I have been watching your case from the beginning. I feel you should be found innocent. Stay strong and don’t give the haters or HLN what they are looking for. I feel all they want is a story at your expense. I also feel that Arizona is a racist state and its interesting how the state has Mr. Martinez on the case. I feel it has been done in order to discount any thoughts about Arizona as being racist, but since you are a Latina I feel they may use this chance as a high profile case not only as a racist move but to make an example. Love ya lots stay strong no matter what!!!!!

229. Those freaks in the TA camp are just bizarre, they consistently accuse Jodi of lying, they say every word out of her mouth is a lie, they do not believe a word she says EXCEPT they do believe her when she says she killed him, BUT THEN they go back to disbelieving her when she says WHY so had to do it!

     WTF?!?

     Justice for Jodi. Not Guilty today – fingers and toes crossed.

230. Always praying for Jodi’s well being!

     Listen to the podcast that discusses facts about what an abuser TA was.

     http://www.blogtalkradio.com/prisondemocracy/2013/05/07/jodi-arias-trial-how-will-it-end

231. I agree with M.T.’s May 4th comments about HLN and I tried to post a comment here about an hour ago. Before trying to re-post the same comments, I will wait as I understand this site is moderated. I do support Jodi – and I am praying for her. Stay strong Jodi!!!

232. Does anyone have her jailhouse address. I wrote a letter I would like to send. Thanks

     • her address is on here under the art area I think or the contact Jodi You can only send her a postcard and it has to be metered mail, No Stamps. I don’t know if the mail will get to her at her current address as has been moved to a different facility due to her comments re: death.

233. Its disgusting… America has just committed premeditated murder in my mind. The girl is not a monster and America is hateful and can not gasp psychology and how abuse works. I dont see her as awful cause she shes not saying how sorry she is, she is sorry, shes just not going to suddenly admit she premeditated this cause she DIDNT! I posted on HLN and they didnt post it. What is this Jodi dies and the Cleveland guy makes bail? THAT Is premeditated! Would like to write Jodi, any possibility I could be directed how to do that?

234. Society is unbelieveable! Jodi is on trial for the alleged killing of another human being. The Torah, the Bible, the Koran and every religious book ever written condemn the taking of a human life, yet a majority of american’s want to see Jodi put to death and they cry “Death Penalty.” HYPOCRITES!!! My gut instinct, which has always been correct, is that Travis’ life was taken in an accidental way such as a crime of passion/heat of the moment as a result of his abuse of Jodi (yeah..good enough for sex, but not to take on a trip with his coworkers of marry!), but those who cry “Death to Jodi” are guilty of First Degree Pre-Meditated KILLING AS THEY PROMOTE THE TAKING OF LIFE. Our legal system is disgusting as NO HUMAN BEING HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE ANOTHER LIFE, even through war or the so called justice system. The police can simply immobilize a suspect with a Tazer, but they would rather kill using bullets. HYPROCRITES AND MURDERERS. There is no honor in taking the life of anyone through WAR! How many people, including innocent children died in Japan when we dropped “the bomb.” DISGUSTING!!! The person who ordered that mission,those who took part in that mission and the ones who actually pressed the button are guilty of over one million counts of Murder 1!!!! WHERE IS THE JUSTICE!!! God created us and only God has the right to take our life. How many people were put to death, and then through DNA evidence were found to be innocent! Remember the Passion of Christ – it was the mob who yelled “Crucify, Crucify.” George Bush was portrayed as sorrowed by the deaths on 9/11, but in the same sentence said he was going to KILL those responsible and we all know the real motive behind this tragic date. How many innocent women and child were killed in the Middle East in the name of cheap oil! WHERE WERE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION GEORGE!!! We may be a technologically advanced society, but society is barbaric! and blood thirsty. Just watch the so called “news” or any Hollywood movie. Blood, violence & murder sells. Do a good deed and nada. But don’t worry folks, GOD sees all the good we do and will reward those a million fold in the next life!

     Thank God, I have learned how to find my “Inner Self” and escape this madness! Folks, don’t worry, there is NO HELL when we die, we are living in it right now. Jodi was right and inspired when she said “Death is the ultimate freedom.” Through a near death experience, I can fully say that what awaits us in the afterlife is true PEACE AND LOVE! But don’t rush death Jodi, be strong and live your life on earth to its God ordained natural end in order to fulfill the purpose of why you were born! YOU ARE HERE FOR A REASON! Your struggle is an inspiration to all and there is a divine purpose behind everything. Jodi, you are a strong person and you can can achieve alot in your life, even if you are in prison. Use the power of your mind and you can escape this horrible world! If you can develop your mental power, you can use your mind and travel to anywhere you want, on this planet and anywhere in the universe! Just look into your inner self! All the answers are right there. You do not have to follow any religion or creed, just look inside and you will find the incredible kingdom that exists right inside you. It has taken me a tragic experience and many years to develop this, but once you find the inner you, you are FREE and NO ONE can ever take that away from you.

     As a society we have dreadfully failed! Its all about money and power, lies and deceit! The legal system is not a search for the truth and justice. War is an insult! In fact, I’m am so ashamed to be a human being that I even welcomed what some people predicted for 12/12/12; a cleansing of society! WE NEED A SERIOUS CHANGE and to stop abusing MOTHER EARTH as well!

     SCOTTY BEAM ME UP ITS TIME TO LEAVE THIS HELL!!!!!

     Find 11:11 & you will find the true meaning of Life! If you read the Secret, it is just the tip of the iceberg; go deeper into yourself and unlock the 11:11 doorway! There are those sent to this planet to help and assist humanity, and those who act in accordance with Divine Law will inherit the Universe!!!

     When we learn that we are all interconnected with each other and all of creation, we will find PEACE AND LOVE! Stop the killing!!!

     JODI you are my sister and child of God. You are an inspiration and a very strong girl. You are forever loved and blessed! I truly hope you find the love and peace that awaits each one of us!

     SO MOTE IT BE!!!

     • How can we teach the children that killing is wrong when our governments continually engage in acts of war, torture and executions. They will learn to distrust us and the cycle will continue. Prisons will become even more overcrowded and death row will stretch right round the world. When will governments and the people learn that by executing the perpetrators of heinous crimes we are destroying the very source of vital information needed to find the reasons why individuals are driven to commit these crimes. Most civilised countries abolished the death penalty years ago for this reason and the fact that there are so many miscarriages of justice still to be uncovered. The only way to protect society from evil acts is not to waste taxpayers money on circus trials, executions and imprisonment but to put resources into psychological and psychiatric research and learning more about societal behaviour. Criminals are part of our society not another species from outer space. Let’s understand ourselves better. Vengeance never resolved anything. I don’t suppose for one moment that Jodi really knows why she did such a terrible thing but the best way she can atone is to work with professionals so that we may learn more about what went on in her mind. Ghandi said “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind”.How true but I fear that you will never convince the mindless lynch mobs who had their brains removed at birth. I wonder what they would say if the roles were reversed.

235. I was a seriously degraded and battered woman. Trouble was, for young women your age, not enough outreach to describe the behaviors, and help a young woman get out of the push pull of these destructive relationships. Dear. I haven’t suffered nearly what you are about to suffer. But the degradation rings in my ears all the time. Smells can start me crying. My dreams are horrifying. I wish you the best, and wish that you hold God’s hand through this time.

     I am an accomplished writer and educator. Published in pretty presigious presses, won or placed in significant awards, I desire to meet with you and write your story in a way very few women can. Please find a way to contact me, and I will pull out all the stops to meet with you and see if we work well together.

     Kindly
     C.D. Runyon

     lamancha61@comcast.net

236. I disagree with many of you. Jodi’s core personality was almost child-like. She believed if she wrote what she wanted to be, it would be. Domestic violence advocates would have told Jodi, write every single degrading comment, write down every single time he hit you, threatened you, called you vile names. If she had, the courtroom drama would have been different. Her best witness was herself, and the court approved domestic violence expert, and shrink. They understood, all the way, how Jodi’s core personality dissolved. Jodi, I just wish you hadn’t lied, and when you were on the stand, if you had said, he or she who has never lied, let them cast the first stone. Once a liar, always a liar? bullshit. That jury had a simpleton’s view of the evidence. That crime scene was chaotic. Jodi was running for her life, she hadn’t mortally wounded him, and then she did. I really thought it would be manslaughter. Oh, Jodi. Let me write it for you. I would like to restore your voice through the lens of domestic violence.

     C.D. Runyon
     publications and prizes list upon request

237. I keep doing something wrong. I am losing what I type. I am not too swift on the computer. I may have to get my story out in drips and drabs. I am a close family relative of Ashley Nicole Reed (Thompson). I’m ex LDS, was married to a batterer and lost my 3 older children to the church and LDS practices, policies and procedures. I also, was very conditioned by that religion. I have had many losses in my life and now I am at the end of it. I don’t really want to go on much longer, anyway. I DO want to find out more about Ashley and her passing. If you all come across anything please let me know. I have a long story to tell. It is not pretty.

     Here is something I came across. Maybe you all will be interested in it. I knew the Grant family in my youth. I was not familiar with their son, the man who killed his wife. (he denies it, I personally believe that he did.) JM was the prosecutor in that trial, also. Hmmm? Something about those Mormons, I guess.

     http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2008/12/key_prosecution_witness_finall.php

     I will post more when and if I can. I am in very ill health and I’m losing my sight to Macular Degeneration.

     Mora

238. I think it would be a good idea to issue a statement supporting your claims made in the KAVONNA ARIAS post about your website being the only official site. You don’t want anyone accusing you of the same. I am sure you are aware of this site http://www.jodiariasguilty.com

     • I cant believe you just posted that link to such a hateful site. And we did support our claims. Laterz.

     • HLN, what nerve you have to hijack our space, not just Jodi’s space. This is a place where women get it. You have tons of spaces that will applaude you for your agenda. Just kindly stay out of Jodi’s place of peace.

239. Holy Crap!!!! I though I was the only one who felt the way others are posting. I just learned about this site and I am happy that there are not only HLN followers in this world. HLN is entertainment tv and tabloid tv and when will people learn this. Their so called “legal experts” are bogus, they have no respect for our law. Let’s say if Travis was the one that killed Jodi, HLN’s most active actors such as Politan, Grace, V-Mitchell, Smith, Brooks, would have been all over Travis’s comment about a 12 year old girl, but showing their true biased colors they put that comment under the rug and say well that is okay for him to have said that. Disgusting!!! These people should hang their head in shame. And why on Earth was this jury not sequestered? For crying out loud, HLN put a mock courtroom outside of the courthouse. All of those who believe in Justice and in their Country should all come together and demand fair trials across the board and demand for HLN to get cancelled. I think Jodi Arias’s case should be appealed and overturned as I feel she was railroaded.

     • You are so right about every thing you said. Something needs to be done about that circus those people are running. I am with you on this statement. HLN people are true Misogynists: I think that Jodi could teach them a thing or two about humanity.

       Did you see this http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/roberts/071127

       I hope Jodi is okay…………………………………?

240. I have been reading and following on here for quite some time. I think by password protecting you have closed some of the silent supporters. We now have nowhere to go. I’m not so sure that was the best thing or way to handle it. Everywhere else is anti-jodi and that is all there is left to go to and read? I kind of feel as if we are thrown to the wolves.

241. Prayers for Jodi that the REAL truth will come out!
     night all and thinking and praying for all and Eli!

242. Jodi, the more I ponder your experience, your story, the more convinced I am that young women of your age group need a book, and serious public conversation about the epidemic of dating violence. Many resourses exist for married women coping with and identifying domestic abuse. Very little literature is devoted to most often unreported dating violence. I have the writing chops to write your story for a particular audience. Women from 14-29, unmarried mostly, are not getting domestic/dating abuse information, and the consequences for young women if they don’t get out, and finally act out. I am on your side, but more importantly, I am devoted to transforming your story into an accessible work manual for young women. Capturing the sights, smells, tastes, sounds, tactile sensations of your experience will help women, so many younger than you, identify dating violence, and take definitive steps to protect their minds, bodies, and lives. write, please. I know the penalty stuff is going on. Imagine thousands of women holding your hand and walking with you. We are.

     • I am planning to come out of retirement to work with the local law school to help young people navigate and hopefully avoid the criminal “justice” system. I have worked in the justice system for a good 15 years and have seen how morally bankrupt the system is.

243. I REALLY HOPE THAT SHE WILL APPEAL THAT INSANE DECISION MADE BY THOSE BIGOTS.

244. Burning the late night candle and just had some thoughts for an appeal. I am not a lawyer so if any of you on this site are experts, weigh in on your thoughts. I am throwing any ideas I have out there in case one of them can be useful.

     During the trial with all of Travis’s family making facial gestures during Jodi’s testimony which negatively influenced the jury through non-verbal communication, the judge failed to declare a mis-trial or grant a motion for mis-trial from the defense. Does this contitute pre-judicial error on the part of the judge? Maybe the appeals court will see that the antics were allowed to perpetuate too long and that the jury could have been influenced unfairly against Jodi making the trial unfair.

     The prosecution presented transcripts and video evidence of the interviews that Jodi gave prior to her trial. I don’t recall any of the interviewers taking the witness stand to verify that the tapes were un-edited and that there wasn’t anything missing. The fact the interviewers did not make a formal testimony in court to verify the accuracy of the video interviews opens up the question of whether or not the tapes should have been dismissed as hearsay. Unless the cameras have a continuous view of both Jodi and the interviewer during the entire interview, how can we be certain that nothing was added or taken away unless the interviewer testifies to that fact. If it can be shown that these interviews should have been classified as hearsay, then the judge committed pre-judicial error by allowing their content into evidence along with any references to the interviews presented by the prosecution. Moreover, did Jodi get her Miranda rights immediately prior to the interviews? If not, does this constitute a breach of her rights?

     After the KC trial, the jurors came under severe public criticizm for finding KC not guilty. HLN had already swayed public opinion in favor of conviction to the extent that the general public was hostile when KC walked. The jurors were interviewed and explained that under the law, they had to find KC not guilty. The media still hammered away at these jurors and implied that they let the people of the state down by letting KC walk. In fact, the jurors did the right thing under the constitution which puts a large burden on the prosecution to meet before a citizen of this country is denied freedom. Anyone with a TV set knew the fire these jurors came under. I believe the jurors in Jodi’s trial feared that if they did not return a verdict of guilty, that HLN and the other media would rip them to shreds. They had to have feared the masses of people that were programmed by HLN knowing that the sentiment was in favor of conviction. It was easier for these jurors to walk out on the street viewed as heros rather than to answer why the prosecution failed to prove their case. There is no way that Jodi could ever get a fair trial with the media coverage. The Supreme Court needs to take action that prevents any trial from being shown on TV or reported on in any public forum until after a verdict is determined. All jurors need to be sequestered for the entire trial even if it is months for any capitol case. Maybe this case will be the one that gets to the Supreme Court and gets rid of all of the HLNers who are looking for a ratings boost.

     Again, I am not a laywer so feel free to hack it all up. Maybe we all can keep brainstorming and get a new trial for Jodi.

245. Hi David,

     you are correct about your observations. On HLN, I saw a Judge (He is a very knowledgeable older man) who was interviewed several times about his opinion on Jodi’s situation. I forgot his name but I will make an attempt to recollect the name. He said that with the media coverage Jodi was getting and the jurors no being sequestered, she was not getting a fair trial. I also noticed that HLN did not request his opinion after three or four times. How interesting, I haven’t seen him again! Let us know if someone takes the lead to contact the lawyers for an appeal. Just like you, I also think that there may be legal grounds for Jodi to file for an appeal to that decision. Please let us know.
     Thanks for your post.

     • Thanks M.T.

       I also think that statements in Jodi’s personal journal were allowed in court and that should also be considered prejudicial error on the part of the judge for allowing it into evidence. Personal journals are not an accurate source of factual information. Many people fanticize and exaggerate in order to vent. Also, dates written in journals cannot be considered accurate. Again, I am not an attorney but even to an untrained person like myself, it looks like it is unfair.

       • Her attorneys did little, really, to hammer home her philosophical bent on journal writing. If you write the negative, the universe gives you the negative. Many, many aspects of this trial disturb me. Every single person lies when they are in trouble. She stopped lying when professionals were able to draw her story out. Her age group is particularly suseptible to dating violence, and Travis had her believing that sexual degradation was a sort of sexual blossoming. This thing is a mess. I wonder, how many moms would want their daughter to date a man like Travis Alexander? We should get together and try to write Jodi’s story. I am well educated, well-published, won awards. Keep on writing for us, please.

         • Christine, Good thoughts. I hope that through this tangled web that Jodi can get the conviction thrown out and get a fair trial. There is no way I will ever believe that justice was served during this trial with the media hype and all of the evil bashing. I know that Travis abused jodi and I am sad that Jodi had the mis-fortune of meeting him. Travis’s family are supposed to be a bunch of religious people but they would “enjoy” watching another person die. It doesn’t make sense to me. They would be better to fess up to the truth about Travis and learn to forgive. No matter what happens to Jodi be it life or death, some day she will be free. Travis’s family will never be free because they harbor hatred and corruption in their hearts. Jesus talks about these people in John Chapter 15 where he states that they are like the white-washed tombs on the hillside so beautiful as they glisten in the sunshine; while inside they hold decomposing bones, death and corruption. So it would be beneficially to Travis’s family if they could re-connect with their religion and be obedient to the commandments of the Lord to forgive and to love unconditionally. I do not know Jodi but I forgive Jodi and I love Jodi. Jesus says that if any of us forgive the trespasses of another on this Earth then the Lord who is more just than us will also forgive those same trespasses. I say this in the context of advice to Travis’s family. My own opinion has not changed. I believe that Jodi either perceived an attack or was mentally reduced by Travis’s abuse that led Jodi to her actions. You know if you keep kicking someone to the ground long enough, that person will be driven to do extreme emotional actions. I know that I contemplated killing my ex-wife and myself after a couple of years of continuous mental abuse. I contemplated suicide too. Jodi has the hallmark signs of abuse and the jury ignored the most credible evidence that supports it. I hope that eventually Jodi will get a new trial without the media hype and a jury that isn’t pressured into a guilty verdict. Remember always that we truly live for the next life and this life is only a blink of an eye in terms of eternity where time does not exist.

     • Was it the judge who was over the Anna nicole smith hearings? I remember he had a opinion HLN didn’t like and I never saw him again either.

246. Hi am from Tucson az. I believe Jodi has a chance on an appeals. there’s a right that was mentioned to her attorneys and there associates while before trial began. its the media’s involvement. when a jury is
     given the admonition. it can be followed if there is no media surrounding the trial. as for the Jodi Arias trial, her name was smeared all over every channel throughout America. the jury did not stay at the court house throughout the entire trial. What should have happen in order a fair trial, is that her attorneys should have vordire the jury, on if they have television at home, and explained to the judge that there client will in no way shape or form, receive a fair trial due to the enormous amount of negative exposure given by all the news networks. she should have received a mistrial. regardless if the mention that she herself talked to the media. she only did that before trial and after. which did not at all involve any feedback. plus the prosecutor should have been dismissed for conflict of interest. he used the media to expose an attack towards the defense team. along with the jury’s obviously knowing that he did by ways of media exposure.

247. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9mgQIJI7s8

     Does this sound familiar?

248. Regardless of what happened between TA and Jodi and how she ended up surviving the Domestic Violence to which she was subjected in 2008. I hope that a defense attorney becomes receptive to all the deficiencies that have been taking place in this so called “Trial” and make a motion to override the decision.

249. To all those who are cheering her verdict are animals, I wonder why so many find it their personal vendetta to see her die. Were these people directly affected by her or were they relatives of the alleged victim. I hope that something gets found to at least reduce her sentence, she does not deserve to die.

250. Once again it is social psychology and “group dynamics” at work. Personally and I dont know if anyone agrees, I think Jodi’s statement was to appease her attorneys due to pressure and how “insane” everyone at HLN and such thinks it would be to simply say “just give me death”. I dont see her statement as a real attempt to save her life. I’m sorry if that offends I have been a supporter since January but believe her feelings are grounded in that she feels helpless, defeated and doesnt really give a s*?! anymore. Its a natural human reaction when whatever you say is not believed. Had she begged on her knees for forgiveness the media would still say it was fake. What she presented was that she will not admit she was not a victim (and rightfully so) and there was remorse but that she is not going to get up there and say it was not self defense and everyone is right it was premeditated sticking to her convictions. She had no family or friends talk and provided only 19 minutes of a statement as if to say “I give up but my attorneys are forcing me to do this” as she motioned to her family and defense and said “do it for them” never saying Im the one asking to live. This is learned helplessness. This country is cruel in my opinion and I dont blame Jodi for what she said. Shes sick of the cruelty and not being believed now no matter what. Of course this was horrific and Ive been torn at times with my thoughts on guilt even but my sense from her was “do what you want jury”. Its very sad and it has been a circus and the hatred out there I have read is an abomination. She could do good in a general prison population and have a positive effect on others which I think she will do while she is appealing. With the world against her and others forcing her to ask for life who wouldnt have had a statement like hers? I feel for Travis’s family as well as Jodi and her family, why is it some serial murderers get life but a woman who never committed a crime and has a case with in my opinion reasonable doubt may be put to death. WHAT IF this woman finally told the truth? Does ANYONE IN HLN Land even consider this? Shall they have a party smiling and laughing as they bash her more? So sorry America is like this Jodi. Ive been with the mind game players… live true to yourself til the end no matter how it comes and know NOT everyone felt the way that jury did. Take care to all.

251. I can’t believe with all the mass murders allowed to live, that they even consider killing Jodi. She at least deserves a second chance to have a life. 20 years is a long time, I can’t believe people don’t believe that’s long enough for one bad act. everybody has bad days and does things they wish they could change. WE should allow her some mercy.

252. I have to say that I have watched this trail from the beginning and this has been one of the most one sided trails I have never seen. This HLN channel needed to keep their trap shut. They have caused trouble from the beginning. These people from Alexander home town and this jury thinks that Juan Martinez is god, and if he says killed somebody they need to kill. This woman did not get a fair trail, and I pray for an appeal. I get so upset .It makes no difference what she says, they turn it around to fit their opinions. They have painted Alexander as a saint, and he was no saint. He played a big roll in this behind closed doors, and hid behind the church. I do not know what happened in that house that afternoon. I do not think anybody does. He may have come after her, calling her all kind of names, and she defended herself . Martinez told a good story, but that was what it was, a story, he did not prove anything. How do I know the story the defense told was not what happened. I watched the whole trail and I know she did it, but I see nothing more than manslaughter. . I do not see how a jury that seen and heard what I saw and heard could push that side, and say premeditated murder. I am not looking at anything she said . She told some lies. I am going on what I saw and heard. I seen MANSLAUGHT. You know HLN is all prosecution lawyers and they have made a circus out of this , makes me sick.

253. I have been watching this trial from day one. I have a degree in criminal justice and later went back to school to obtain my teaching degree and a masters in education. I am now 30 years old, no children and teaching kindergarten. When I was in college and 22 years old I had a boyfriend who was loved by all of his friends and mine. He would tell me that he loved me and then 15 min later kick me out of his house, his bed and tell me that I was worthless after he got what he wanted. One night the verbal abuse was so bad that I lost it and punched him in the face. I was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and assault. This has haunted me throughout my adult life and my career as a teacher. I don’t believe for a second that Travis was a nice person. I am sure he appeared that way to his family and friends. I have a brother and I would defend him to death but some people are just evil. I think he was. He used her and no matter how good he was to everyone else he was awful to her. No one deserves to be killed and info think she was a little bit crazy. Who wouldn’t be, he made her that way. This Whole trial is a tragedy and I feel bad for both sides. No one should lose a brother this way and no brother should act that way. Let this be a lesson learned tho those who think they could use and hurt people so badly. HLN is a cult and is so bias that I can’t even stomach it. I don’t support what Jodi did but I see the reasoning behind it. She does not deserve death, no know one does. Life in prison, maybe but she is so smart and has so much to give and she wasn’t like this in her previous 27 years of life. This was situational and not pre meditated whatsoever. I want to hear what everyone else is thinking about this. I am glad I found this site. I am glad I am not the only one who feels thst this trial was so grossly mishandled.

     • In addition to what I have stated. I am also authorized to receive personal and legal files that the general public would not have access to. I am seriously considering filing to get every file and piece of this case and reviewing it myself. There is something going on here that isn’t right. Maybe she lied. So what! I want to uncover what really happened. This trail has been so unfair and I want to investigate this for myself. Something isn’t right here. The media has been out of control. I know we all love technology but look where it had lead us. This is just crazy. Pure insanity. They describe hat as a difficult person. How fed up would you be if you had to deal with this for 5 years! I mean, really. How would any of us act? I would be so fed up with all of the bs I would be cocky and trying to just smile and have what little shred of happiness I could find in the world. People make her out to be a monster. She isn’t. Just really and terribly misunderstood.

254. Wish I would have found your site months ago! Great job!!

255. Aloha!

     There is a certain piece of art that I want to buy from Jody. It’s the one with grown up hands holding onto a baby’s feet: I’m SO sentimental about that piece! It’s not the one that has grown up hands holding onto a baby’s hands, just the baby’s feet! PLEASE help me to connect with that pal of her’s that doe’s the selling of’ Jodi’s art, will you? I would appreciate it, VERY much, as if it doesn’t cost too much I would so TREASURE havinartg that picture!! It doesn’t have to be in oil; just a print would be excellent, and probably all I could afford, any way!

     I am a Hospice RN in Hawai’i, and I know that if all of us searched our hearts and memory, there have been times for ‘most’ people when we went into a rage over something, too! I think what put Jodi into rage was the fact that Travis was taking a different girl on that trip to Cancun….the murder was the just the day before that, I think.. I believe he used Jodi as a sex toy, while she was falling deeply in love with him. He just uncerimonously dumped her, while she had feelings as deep as the ocean for him. Can you even imagine spending all the years she already has in jail? Or, worse yet, to be put to sleep forever? I wish her Mom could go on the stand and cry/beg for her daughter’s life. Jody is just trying to survive in jail with her art, and so many people are just jealous of her.

     I have a daughter named Jody, with a y instead of an i..! If she were in Jodi’s situation, I would be absolutly beside myself! PLEASE help me to obtain that pic of a grown up holding a baby’s feet, will you? Any/all help would be so very appreciated!

     Me ke aloha pumehana,and mahalo nui loa!
     Mahealani

256. We need an end to the wink and nod, death threats, stalking of Jodi’s supporters, friends, even the domestic violence expert.

     We need a facebook page with a poll, if your daughter could date or marry a man like Travis Alexander, how would you feel? Perhaps women could confront the degradation and abuse Travis committed.

     Family: please. I possess the writing “chops” publication bragging rights, to get Jodi’s story told. I am committed to writing a workbook that helps the underserved age group of 15-29, so they can answer mini-tests and see in their own hand writing whether they are in an abusive dating situation, and how to get out.

     2nd Jodi’s story needs to be heard. HLN was misogynistic, bloodthirsty, unprofessional. I know she lied, and then she told the truth.

     Contact me, please.

     • Christine, I am glad that you are taking initiative to write Jodi’s story. All of the death threats and anger is just a reflection of what was in Travis’s heart. Look at the corruption and violence they are portraying against others. They all came from the same mold and they have that unholy hatred and lack of compassion that Travis displayed. So it should be no surprise to any of us that they would want to kill us and try to intimidate us in an attempt to try to shut us up. This is a free country and they have been allowed to say anything they want, have phony trials on TV with phony juries, render their verdict before the case was even heard and were allowed to sway public opinion against Jodi. If these people were truly convinced themselves that Travis did no wrong, it wouldn’t matter to them what we think. The fact that they try to shut us up tells me that deep down they all know that Travis abused Jodi and that he was just another person sponging off of a young girl to get his rocks off. They know for sure and they just can’t face the truth. I am posting on this site for Jodi but I am also posting to stand up for reform a justice system that allows the media to have influence in any felony trial. Let the TV people show Judge Judy re-runs of small claims cases. The TV media has no place even commenting on a trial where someones life is on the line.

     • I wish that some of these haters, stalkers and death threat slingers would come find me……I’m easy to find on twitter and facebook send me a message I’ll give you directions to my front door. I am a proud supporter of Jodi Arias and consider her a friend of mine. I just don’t put up with anyone talking bad about my friends or family.

       Ray A. Chastain, Harrisonburg Virginia.

257. Well look what we have here, the greedy hell hounds of the alexander camp…check it out:

     http://www.occupyhln.org/jodi-arias/state-vs-jodi-ann-arias-con-artists-exposed/

258. Thank you Carrie!

     The link you posted is very educational about Jodi’s situation. After browsing, reading, and listening to Gus Cearcy, I am sure that she DID NOT GET A FAIR TRIAL. Martinez is a disgrace and the ‘1St. Degree’ decision should be changed to a ‘SELF DEFENSE. Everything has been a ‘waste of money’ due to a group of people who behave like a bunch of ‘Attention Thirsty, Greedy, Self Serving, Egocentric, Draculas.’
     These people are hurting our legal system! Shame on them!

     • wow, just broused that article. Absolutely this girl did not get a fair trial! If I was lawyer Id try to help seriously. With all the media coverage theres no way in hell this was a fair trial and that Jen girl on HLN just shaking her head “yes” to all the attorneys who interestingly seem to agree just pisses me off! What I dont understand is how “thick” people are. Maybe its me but one of the jurors said how the video of Jodi’s parents saying she was “had mental issues” lended more credence to the guilty verdict? How the hell is saying she was unstable or had issues supporting the guilty verdict? wouldnt that lend support that she had possible abuse issues and provide more support that she was not in the right state of mind? wtf is going on here? It must be making others have the same questions…
       It seems EVERYTHING supports what they wanted, to send a girl to death that never did a thing before this. Seems strange she was 27, clearly old enough to have shown major anger issues before this. And borderlines usually turn that inward. AZ is unconstitutional that they only go through a penality phase twice and the second jury is forced to accept the guilty verdict… its like try try again til we are okay’d to put her to death. Appeal.

259. can you please order the t-shirts in sizes xl and 1x. Thank you.

260. Arizona has to be the most corrupt State in the union to allow such court room abuse.
     We wrote letters asking for a Federal investigation on this case.
     The judge is corrupt and needs to be removed as does the prosecutor martineza.

     Self Defense is NOT first degree murder.
     The jury got it wrong and that must be reversed.

     We will continue to monitor this case.
     Jodi needs to be removed from that State and crooked kangaroo court.

     Even the sheriff is abusive towards Jodi by placing her in solitary confinement.
     Thats just wrong.
     Dr John
     All you lawyers out there need to step up and put a stop to this scam.

     Free Jodi.

261. For comparison

     http://www.indystar.com/article/20130608/NEWS02/306080032/1001/NEWS
     ‘Female Charles Manson’ Sarah Jo Pender didn’t get fair trial, says former deputy prosecutor who convicted her
     Jun. 8, 2013 |

     Sarah Jo Pender fights for new trial: “Sarah didn’t get a fair trial,” said retired Marion County Deputy Prosecutor Larry Sells. Danese Kenon/The Star

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     Vic Ryckaert

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     Sarah Jo Pender gives an interview from Indiana Women’s Prison on the Far Westside of Indianapolis Thursday, April 18, 2013. Danese Kenon/The Star

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     Sarah Jo Pender gives an interview from Indiana Women’s Prison on the Far Westside of Indianapolis Thursday, April 18, 2013. Danese Kenon/The Star
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     Sarah Jo Pender spends about 22 hours of most days in a solitary 7-by 11-foot cell.
     Inmate No. 953968, sentenced to 110 years for double murder, is considered one of the most dangerous convicts at the Indiana Women’s Prison on the Far Westside of Indianapolis.
     Pender, 34, has long insisted she doesn’t belong behind bars. Legal experts and the former deputy prosecutor who won the guilty verdict against her in 2002 are starting to agree.
     “Sarah didn’t get a fair trial,” said retired Marion County Deputy Prosecutor Larry Sells, who at the sentencing hearing labeled Pender the “female Charles Manson.” He may now be the person to convince the court that keeping Pender in prison is a mistake.
     Sells said he has discovered evidence that raises doubt about Pender’s conviction in the shotgun slayings of her roommates, Andrew Cataldi and Tricia Nordman, in 2000. The evidence — a “snitch list” neither he nor the defense attorney knew existed at trial — indicates he unwittingly built a murder case against Pender with dubious testimony.
     He is quick to point out, however, that Pender is no innocent. She assisted the killer and helped to conceal the murders. But the maximum sentences on those crimes would have been served years ago.
     She hasn’t served her time quietly.
     During the nearly 13 years Pender has been in prison, she masterminded a highly publicized prison escape in 2008, earning a spot on the U.S. Marshals 15 Most Wanted Fugitives list before she was captured 4½ months later, living quietly on Chicago’s North Side.
     Her story also has been featured on reality crime shows, most notably America’s Most Wanted. She was the subject of a 2011 true-crime novel (“Girl, Wanted: The Chase for Sarah Pender”) and inspired a recent Lifetime Television biopic (“She Made Them Do It”).
     But after all that has been written, filmed and dramatized about Pender, there’s still more to her story.
     The crime
     Pender graduated from Lawrence Central High School and went to Purdue University to study physics with dreams of working in a particle accelerator lab or pursuing a career in biochemestry. Page 2 of 7)

     But she left school after a year, too immature and unable to manage living and attending classes on her own, she said in a recent interview with The Star.
     At age 21, she met Richard Hull at a concert for the band Phish. She quickly fell in love with the former Noblesville High School football player.
     Pender and Hull, who had become a drug dealer, began sharing a two-bedroom home in the 900 block of Meikel Street with Cataldi and Cataldi’s girlfriend Nordman, both fugitives from the Nevada Department of Corrections.
     Pender’s account of what happened on Oct. 24, 2000, has remained consistent.
     She says she left the house on the Near Southside of Indianapolis that night when Hull and Cataldi began arguing about drugs and cash.
     She says she later returned to find a dark and blood-soaked house. Her boyfriend had gunned down their roommates with a 12-gauge shotgun — a weapon Pender had purchased earlier that day at Walmart.
     She went with Hull to dump the bodies into a trash bin a few blocks away. She did not call police and went to work the next day as if nothing had happened.
     In her interview with The Star, Pender said she had no choice but to help. Doing anything else, she said, would have made her Hull’s third victim.
     Pender, the manipulator
     Sells, back then, looked at Pender and saw a dangerous criminal.
     He told the jury she was a master manipulator, wielding intelligence and sex appeal like deadly weapons.
     Her sweet suggestions and tender kisses bent the will of her hulking boyfriend, Sells argued, persuading him to kill Cataldi and Nordman
     Hull pulled the trigger, Sells said, but Pender pulled the strings.
     While there was no direct evidence tying Pender to the slayings, she did much after the fact that led police and the prosecutor to start thinking of her as a cold-blooded manipulator with the power to lead another to kill.
     Against the advice of her lawyer, she sent dozens of love letters to her boyfriend while they both sat in the Marion County Jail awaiting trial.
     She carried on a torrid pen-pal relationship with another inmate, a convicted child molester. Sells used one of the letters Pender supposedly wrote to Hull and testimony from Floyd Pennington, the child molester, to convict her of murder.
     During her interview with The Star in a classroom at the Women’s Prison, Pender said what she’s guilty of is blind love and stupidity.
     “I do not deserve to be convicted of murder and that’s it, that’s it,” Pender said, handcuffed and seated at a table with two prison officials standing nearby.
     “It doesn’t matter how stupid or irresponsible or promiscuous or whatever anybody wants to say,” Pender said, “I don’t (expletive) deserve to be here.”
     Pender’s new hope
     Pender’s best hope for freedom comes thanks to the man who put her in prison.
     Retired, Sells now thinks the evidence used to convict Pender was based on a tangle of lies spun by Pennington.
     The proof, Sells said, is in a document that was withheld from Pender’s lawyers during the 2002 trial.
     Sells found it in 2009 while poking through the old detective files on Pender’s case.
     It was Pennington’s “snitch list,” Sells said, naming people he was prepared to help police bust in exchange for a plea agreement.
     The handwritten list with Pennington’s signature, Sells said, would have led to the jury questioning Pennington’s credibility and crushed the state’s murder case. The document proved that Pennington would do anything to get a plea deal from the state, Sells said, even lie under oath.
     “I’d never seen that before. The defense hadn’t either,” Sells said. “If I’d have seen that I never would have put Floyd Pennington on the witness stand.”
     Pennington had been facing 56 years in prison; just months before he testified against Pender he was sentenced to 12 and released in six years.
     Scott Newman, the Marion County prosecutor at the time, said the discovery of the previously undisclosed document gives Pender a convincing argument for a new trial.
     “The fact that he (Pennington) negotiated with that other information is relevant and should have been disclosed,” Newman said, “and that does trouble me.”
     Pennington’s tale
     In 2002, Pennington was the classic jailhouse snitch. His testimony provided crucial evidence Sells used to link Pender to the murders.
     Pennington met Pender at a jail church service and they soon started corresponding. Marion County Jail forbids inmates to write each other, but Pender got around the restrictions by having a friend on the outside forward letters to Pennington and Hull.
     Pender was a prolific letter-writer. Authorities seized more than 70 letters she had written to Hull and dozens more she sent to Pennington while she was locked up.
     It was through these letters, Pennington told police, that he and Pender agreed to fake illnesses on Sept. 22, 2001, so they could meet at Wishard Memorial Hospital.
     The jail officers were busy dealing with a rowdy inmate, Pennington said, and left him and Pender alone in a waiting area. Each was shackled and separated by space, but Pennington testified that they could see each other and speak without being overheard.
     Pennington claimed that Pender confessed that she had “coerced” Hull into committing the murders.
     “She didn’t pull the trigger,” Pennington said, during Pender’s trial, “but, you know, she had pretty much coerced Rick to pull the trigger.”
     Pennington’s story fit perfectly with Sells’ theory as to how the murders happened.
     But Sells did not know during the trial that Pennington had volunteered to help police bust other criminals in hopes of getting a plea deal.
     In the snitch list, Pennington told Ken Martinez, the lead detective on the murder case, he was willing to “make buys, wear wires, talk on phone taps or whatever I have to do to make busts on all of these crimes.”
     Sells said Martinez never gave him that snitch list and Sells didn’t look through the detective’s files before the case went to trial.
     The document was buried in a file, shelved and forgotten.
     Martinez left Indianapolis law enforcement in 2006 and moved to Idaho. He resigned from the Ketchum Police Department in 2008 amid a scandal involving mishandled evidence. He could not be reached for comment.
     Finding snitch list
     By fall 2009, Sells had left the Marion County Prosecutor’s Office but was handling cases part-time in Clinton County.
     He was helping author Steve Miller, who was researching a book about Pender. They were digging through old police files and discovered the document that, in time, convinced Sells he had been wrong about her.
     In the hands of a defense lawyer, legal experts say, the list could have been used to pound away at the little credibility Pennington had with the jury.
     Pennington committed new crimes after his release, including a rape in 2008. He is back in prison at Miami Correctional Facility serving a 30-year sentence.
     Pennington maintains that he told the truth about Pender.
     James Nave, the attorney who represented Pender at her trial, said the snitch list would have gone a long way toward questioning Pennington’s credibility.
     “I certainly don’t remember seeing something like that,” Nave said after The Star told him about the discovery of the list. “If I had I would have been gleeful. I would have been overjoyed to have that document as her attorney.”
     The list raised alarms, but Sells said he wanted to talk to the detective in the case, Martinez, before he did anything else. Sells tried to find Martinez, but discovered he had moved out of Indianapolis.
     He put the snitch list in the back of his mind and went on with life. Sells retired from his part-time job prosecuting cases last year and once again started thinking about Pender’s case.
     It was then that he realized Pennington’s testimony couldn’t be trusted.
     “It was clear as a bell,” Sells said, he “lied.”
     Letter was faked
     Another piece of evidence, just as important as the Pennington testimony, was a letter Hull gave to his lawyer in which Pender allegedly confessed to the shootings.
     A Marion County crime lab expert testified at Pender’s trial that the letter’s handwriting matched hers. But in 2005 hearing for Pender’s appeal, Hull testified that he had another inmate write the letter for him and that he alone had killed the victims.
     Hull, in a telephone interview with The Star on May 17, declined to talk about specifics of the crime citing advice from his attorney. He hopes he might win an appeal to his 90-year sentence. However, he would not refute or deny the testimony he gave in 2005.
     Evidence crashes down
     Sells is not sure what happened in the house on Meikel Street. But he now believes Pender was not the shooter: She was irresponsible and arrogant. Her actions made her appear guilty of the murders, but in the end, she did not get a fair trial.
     Last spring, Sells came to the conclusion that he had wrongly convicted a young woman of two murders.
     He called Pender’s mother, Bonnie Prosser, in May 2012, just before Mother’s Day, and promised her he’d help set things right.
     Sells later shared his concerns with longtime Indianapolis defense attorney Dave Hennessy. Hennessy agreed to assist Pender’s lawyers with a new appeal.
     The brother of Cataldi, the slaying victim, says he’s at peace with whatever happens.
     “As far as I’m concerned they both did it,” said Steve Cataldi, 46, who lives in Lecanto, Fla. “If they deem that she’s just an accessory and the court says she’s served her time, then that’s the case.”
     Why the snitch list was not provided to the state remains a mystery. Sells thinks detective Martinez simply forgot to turn it over.
     It really makes no difference why, said Joel Schumm, a criminal law professor at the Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law in Indianapolis. The fact that the snitch list was withheld at all, Schumm said, could raise serious questions about the validity of her guilty verdict.
     “If Pennington’s testimony was important in convicting her and this list seriously undermined his credibility,” Schumm said, “a judge may well order a new trial because the verdict would no longer be worthy of confidence.”
     This responsibility to turn over “exculpatory evidence” to the defense is one of the bedrocks of the U.S. justice system, experts say. The rules were laid out in the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark 1963 decision in Brady v. Maryland.
     “You never see an appeals court say a Brady violation is harmless error,” former Marion County Prosecutor Newman said. “Whether Larry knew about the sheets of paper or not doesn’t really matter because the courts have made it clear that prosecutors are held to know what is in the investigator’s files.”
     Pender’s new appeal
     Attorney Cara Weinke, Pender’s lawyer, is preparing documents that she hopes will lead to a new appeal.
     Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry’s office has said it would evaluate any new information in Pender’s case.
     Sells said he has been interviewed by deputy prosecutors and a detective reviewing Pender’s conviction.
     There are two avenues that might lead Pender to a new trial or freedom.
     The courts could grant her a new appeal in light of the new evidence.
     The prosecutor’s office may agree to modify Pender’s sentence, if it becomes convinced that the snitch list was important to Pender’s case and wrongly withheld from her attorney.
     Pender, meanwhile, spends time in that small cell, reading, writing letters and praying for the day she is free.
     “I put myself in some really (expletive) situations,” she said, “however being a slut, being dumb, being needy, none of that deserves the punishment I’ve gotten.”

     Call Star reporter Vic Ryckaert at (317) 444-2701 or follow him on Twitter @VicRyc.

     • The press has now noticed the relevence of the Paula Cooper case. Now they have to realize that new evidence can show up years later as in the Sarah Jo Pender case. In this case the former prosecutor says that the newly found evidence is such that she should be released for time served.

262. I have been following the trial closely. When I first heard of this case I suspected the defendant to be totally different. I was seriously taken aback when I saw a very beautiful, very intelligent, very articulate, very poised, very talented and frankly a very sweet and adorable appearing young woman with a smile that could light up a room.. It was amazingly incongruant. I understand that this matter is far from resolved. I do not want to interfere with the process nor with any future appeals. I am interested in learning about Jodie prior to this horrible incident that was tragic for everyone involved. Please educate me about Jodie’s life from her teens till the time before this tragic incident. I must say that the equanimity she has shown is amazing. Thank you for replying to me and let me know if Jodie read this email. Feel free to show it to her and I will gratefully welcome her comments.

263. I have been following the trial closely. When I first heard of this case I suspected the defendant to be totally different. I was seriously taken aback when I saw a very beautiful, very intelligent, very articulate, very poised, very talented and frankly a very sweet and adorable appearing young woman with a smile that could light up a room.. It was amazingly incongruant. I understand that this matter is far from resolved. I do not want to interfere with the process nor with any future appeals. I am interested in learning about Jodi prior to this horrible incident that was tragic for everyone involved. Please educate me about Jodi’s life from her teens till the time before this tragic incident. I must say that the equanimity she has shown is amazing. Thank you for replying to me and let me know if Jodi read this email. Feel free to show it to her and I will gratefully welcome her comments. I can be reached at ARROWLEAD@aol.com ARCHER

264. To all Freedom loving Americans. People.

     After reviewing this case we/I find it unsettling that so much abuse has been allowed in her trial and current course of events.

     Ms Arias has been and is being railroaded and I for one will not sit by and do nothing.

     As a prior service US Marine sworn to defend the innocient and oppressed and uphold the US Constitution, I have taken it upon myself to send written letters to the FBI, US Supreme Court, State of Arizona and anyone who will listen, on the events of this case that everyone seems to be ignoring.

     It doesn’t take rocket science to see the lies, corruption, abuse and missleading information that has happened to date.

     Ms Arias is inniocent. Period.

     We emplore everyone to go to the Federal Websites and express your feelings and inform those of the abuse in that State that she is having to live with.

     The abuse of Jodi Arias MUST STOP.

     End of report.
     Sgt Paul
     USMC

     • Thank you for your service Sgt. Paul, and your support for Jodi. I too have been writing to anyone who will listen, Sen. John McCain, Gov. Jan Brewer, Atty. Gen. Eric Holder and others sooner or later someone will listen. TEAM JODI will be heard!

       Ray A. Chastain Sgt. U.S.A.F. 1980-1984

265. I hope that Jodi is keeping her hope and courage up. It is sad what has happened to this beautiful, talented young woman. Does anyone know much about the Jodi Arias movie ? Howt does Jodi and team Jodi feel aboiut this movie?
     Justice Seeker

266. I watched the Jodi Arias movie last night… I believe that it was ridiculous.

     I am keeping Jodi in my prayers that she will be delivered mentally from the things she has encountered in her life. I am also keeping both families in my prayers. Jodi’s family and Travis’ family. I couldn’t imagine how it feels to watch a family member to be persecuted or to have lost a family member to a tragic fate.

     • gigi I am glad that you are keeping everyone involved in this tragic situation in your prayers. I just listened to the audio played at the trial. This must have been extremely embarassing and painful for Jodi to sit through. There are no winners in this tragedy. Everyone has suffered. I believe that this is a situation where wrong thinking got out of cotrol, emotions got out of control, judgment was horribly clouded and then precious lives got destroyed, families were destroyed. I hope GOD brings some level of peace to everyone. Does anyone know if Jodi saw the movie ?

267. Ms Arias, please know that there is a crowd in your corner looking for ways to help you. Hope you are granted continued strength.

268. What is the task force that is password protected? Just curious.

269. Was curious why Jodi can’t claim “stand your ground” defense? certainly she was more vulnerable than George Zimmerman

270. OK here is the link that should be at the top of the Site:

     http://herrspeightsventures.com/Innocence_Essay_Report.php

     This guy is an expert in knife fighting, and presents a powerful case that Jodi repeatedly stabbed Travis as she was being tackled, that it was a self-defense posture.

271. Zimmerman is getting a much more fair trial than Jodi did. He has better lawyers. If you get this, Jodi your lawyers should contact me. I have some abilities to substanutuate their motiont to set aside the aggrivation phase. I have written to them but got no response.

272. Ms Arias as I said before I have come out of retirement based on your courage. I will be taking some courses at the law school and joining a committee to put more justice in the Indiana Criminal Justice System. I have now suggested a new course for the law school and they like the idea. All of this is because of your strength in adversity. Via con dios

273. Have not yet got an answer for my last question posted on 6/28. Never the less, still pulling for you Jodi. I read the lengthy list of errors that the prosecution made during your trial. If there are any sane judges on the appeals court, you should at least get anoher trial if not get it completely overturned. I am still confident that you will walk free again some day.Hang in there and know that we love you and none of us will ever forget you.

     • What was your question, David?

       • My question is.” What is task force and why is it password protected.” Just want to know.

     • I just found it. The task force is a special group of projects dedicated to Jodi’s cause. That’s all I really know.

       • Thanks Rachel.

274. All.

     With all that has occured to date in this case, and how Jodi is being treated, I have send messages, to the DOJ, Federal Supreme Courts, and White House, calling for an internal investigation to STOP the Abuse. Knowing Arizona with its broken legal system, along with corrupt judges and abusive law enforcement, it was felt that someone higher up needs to know, and put a stop to it.

     Further I advise all concerned to go to these web sites and write a complaint, calling for action just because, Its the righ thing to do. The Abuse and Constitutional Violations must stop. The conviction must be overturned. Arizona must be held accountable for its actions.

     I sincerely hope, that those who believe in American Freedom will wake up and act to free Jodi Arias.

     Sincerely
     Sgt P
     US Army

275. Hello everyone – so much has happened as of late, that I do not know where to start. Sure, I’ve heard about Ms. Arias in the news, however had no information regarding anything of the case. I know, it’s crazy – but I would prob be 1 if not only, untainted juror. Well, could have been. I’ve been so busy with work that I haven’t had time for any forensics other then the ones I am responsible for. Just this week, I decided to google jodi arias and what had she supposedly done. Yes, I swear. Anyway – as you can surmise I started with hln etc. read and watched transcripts, testimonies, evidence. A lot. Until I put myself in her shoes – only there was I able to find a site that I believe is the most honest, and beyond a wealth of knowledge to gain – for anyone. It took me 2.5 days to read thru all of the comments. I appreciated every single one. I’m so disgusted – why was it ok for her to have been abused – why is this ignored. So many questions. But I just wanted to say thank you for the site – as I am a minority in my belief of Jodi’s innocence. If anything – cant she be of some support to others – after healing herself – about danger signs in questionable relationships. Before they escalate. My heart hurts for her bc I understand.

276. What does it mean to have the post cards metered? I would like to send Jodi a post card but i don’t wanna send it wrong and it be returned. Does anyone know why she cant recieve letters? like a normal inmate? someone please answer me i have asked numerous times the same questions and have yet to recieive an answer …..i would really like to send her a post card of support thank you

     • Estrella only allows postcards – that’s not a special rule for Jodi, it’s just all that they allow period.

       Post cards must be metered by the post office – that’s ink directly on a card, no stamp, no ink on a label that’s stuck to the card – basically the point is no glue because people have hidden drugs in the glue.

       Best bet is to get a post card that’s plain on both sides to give you more room to write. 🙂

     • Be careful not to right on the back of the area where the postage is placed. Apparently they cut out the postage area and that takes out everything on the back of that area. I was getting the cards metered, but was later told that stamps were OK since they cut off that area anyway. I hope that is correct since that is how I have been sending cards lately. Jodi is in solitary confinement for some reason and spend 23 hrs per day in her cell. The cards help lift her spirits some, so keep them coming. She gets lots of them, and cannot answer them all, so don’t hold your breath waiting for a response. Just send them and pray they bring her a modicum of comfort.

277. I’ve always had something niggling at the back of my mind regarding the stab wounds on Travis’ back. I just feel the need to put it out there somewhere and this site seemed to be the best place.

     I always thought the area of Travis’ back where the cluster of stab wounds were located (ergo, the area the prosecution stated was where she stabbed him repeatedly while he was at the bathroom mirror) was intriguing.

     Then it hit me…I wonder if perhaps Travis had Jodi pinned down, Jodi managed to get the knife, and was stabbing him in an attempt to get him off of her? Because she would only be able to move her arms so far, that would certainly explain why the wounds were contained in a specific area.

     Since Jodi is apparently amnesic about the events that unfolded that day, I wonder why the medical examiner or even her own attorneys and the experts never considered this possibility. It makes much more sense to me than Travis standing at a bathroom room, watching her stab him in the reflection, and never so much as turning around to stop the attack.

     Just a real head-scratcher for me. I was wondering if anyone else on this site had ever considered my proposed scenario.

     • Hi CuriousOne,

       I have often thought about your scenario. Especially where the stab wounds were not “deep” it makes sense that Travis was on top of her in a controlling position. It makes sense that she reached for the knife, and attempted to wrap her arm around his body in order to prevent him from the continuous attack. I think it is very plausible that this is what occurred. The defense should have brought this version of events in. The state’s theory of Jodi continuously stabbing him as he was facing the wall in the shower, makes no sense at all. Those inflicted wounds would have penetrated the skin way more than they did! WAY MORE. The fact these were stabs barely pierced his skin, speaks volumes.

       • Hi Casandra & also CuriousOne above. ….Nice place for me to comment on this subject.
         … … I agree with both of you. … That Jodi reacted to defend herself. … Many months ago during the trial, I realized & totally believed that those several shallow knife wounds to his back were certainly NOT CRUEL to injury him severely but to get his attention, …she may have yelled ((LET ME GO … LET GO OF ME … LET ME HELP YOU)). …Remember the testimony that (I believe it was LaViolette, who was asked by the prosecutor, about what Jodi revealed to her). ….I believe LaViolette said that Jodi told her that Travis was grabbing her SWEATER, but I think I remember that it was not a SWEATER that Jodi said Travis was grabbing, but her clothing that Travis was grabbing & holding onto. … And, I think that is why the prosecutor was ridiculing LaViolette because he claimed she could not remember ((exactly)) what Jodi told her, whether a sweater or just clothing.

         …OF COURSE HE HAD TO RIDICULE LaViolette because he did not want the jury to realize that Travis held onto Jodi’s clothing. …Regardless of whether Travis was holding onto (her sweater) or (her clothing), HE WAS TURNED AWAY FROM HER & probably trying to get to the mirror to see his injury. … IT WAS THE SAME THING & TOTALLY FRIGHTENING TO JODI. … (((HE WAS PROBABLY PULLING HER TOWARDS THE MIRROR FOR HIM TO SEE HIS FACE INJURY))) ! ! ! …

         … …Remember she & Travis were on the floor, that was not disproven, so she may have found the knife on the floor & was trying to get him to release her clothing or cut her clothing away from him.

         …After feeling those shallow back wounds, he did not release her clothing but tried to turn around & face her & he grabbed the blade of the knife several times with one hand & another hand & that is why he had wounds to his hands. … It was NOT DEFENSIVE wounds from Jodi but it was Jodi (not letting the knife go) but pulling it out of his hands more than once. …One of the other comments that somebody wrote that: …Travis did not realize that he was like walking into an airplane propeller. …

         …ZORRO, the gay blade of Mexico, (fictional) would do exactly that, if one of the Mexican Governor’s swordsmen grabbed ZORRO’s sword blade, he would just withdraw it from the idiot’s hand (as in the movie). …I believe I saw that exact same scene. …
         … …The prosecutor kept asking: what happened then, & how long did that take & what did you do next?? … Well she told the truth, she did not remember, because a knife defense is a totally dynamic situation, it is 99% instinctive reactions. … Just like in a traffic accident collision, sometimes people BLACK OUT before the actual collision, their brain shuts down that memory input of the horrendous experience, forever, …unless retrieved by hypnosis.

         … …Now she did not remember severely injuring Travis & certainly not cutting his neck. …But that is just like the BLACKOUT that many people experience in a traffic accident collision. …Sometimes the don’t remember climbing out of the car & walking down the road & they REMEMBER NOTHING until they wake up in the hospital days later. ..

         … …Now if she actually did the other severe wounds, she was doing the same reaction that policemen are taught to do all over this country: …. DO NOT FIGHT TO WOUND… BUT SHOOT OR FIGHT TO KILL or TOTALLY DISABLE.
         …. Example: The retired policeman who shot, center mass to kill, the guy that probably spilled popcorn on the retired policeman in a movie theater recently. …That is what is normal procedure when a policeman believes he is in danger. ..They are not taught to wound, they are taught to kill.

         ….Example: The shooting of Amadou Diallo, Feb, 1999, New York City. … (Paraphrasing ): A totally innocent unarmed man was standing near his apartment building & 4 plain clothes policemen approached (well they say they identified themselves) but perhaps he thought they were trying to rob him so he pulled out his wallet (to give to the perceived robbers) & one of the policemen saw it being [[square]] & (((SHOUTED GUN))). …And, the other 3 policeman & the policeman who shouted GUN, started emptying their CLIPS into Diallo’s body. … …Forty-one (41) shots were fired at Diallo & nineteen (19) shots hit & killed Diallo probably before he hit the ground.
         … …So, what is the difference between 4 policemen shooting to kill Diallo because they were afraid of him. …… And, Jodi Arias being afraid of Travis who was (in my suggestion) going to do what he said he wanted to do to her (KILL YOU BITCH). …All 4 policemen were acquitted of all charges.

         … … …Will the new jury & perhaps later an Appeals court allow Jodi Arias to be entitled to the same self defense as 4 fully armed policemen in the Amadou Diallo shooting, who all fired their weapons as a (sympathetic response) during an adrenalin rush in an excited moment.
         ….Please Google (((sympathetic response))). … …It is what the human nervous system does in a sympathetic response in a perceived moment of terror of bodily harm.

         …The first Jodi Arias jury was not capable of understanding a (((sympathetic response))) to terror. … … …The human nervous system can cause a person fight in self defense with a knife just as the 4 policemen did with their 41 bullets into Diallo’s body. …
         … … … …I am ((WLOPEZ4JAA))…. and ….((((Jodi Ann Arias is innocent)))).

278. All, I was surfing the net and someone mentioned the following:
     “Jodi is left handed. The wounds in Travis’s back are on his right side.
     This means they were facing each other during the struggle. More indicative of self-defense.
     Had his back been to her, as presented by the prosecutor, the wounds in his back would be on the left, same as her dominant hand.”

     Has anyone else seen or read about this? Does the Defense know about this? Is this reasonable dount? What can be done? Was this already talked about. At this late stage is it helpful to know?

     It just seems that there is so much corruption and cover-up in this case, that someone in authority should be screaming and putting a stop to this injustice. Oh and as of today, they are now blaming Ms Arias for revenge threats against Mr Martinez? I thought prison inmates were not allowed to have cell phones?

     Side Notet: Someone is asking for appeals funds. Is this legal or allowed?

     Any clearification would be helpful. Thank you.
     Good luck Miss Jodi. We are on your side.
     Mr John

     • Very interesting point Mr. John. Hopefully, someone will pass your idea along to help Jodi. This case has been a horrible miscarriage of justice and a complete farce! AZ needs to wake up. Their justice system is in bad shape. Jodi does not deserve what has happened to her.

     • Yes the defense fund is legal, and you should send in some support. I have done so and it is quite easy.

279. What about Travis’s actions prior to his demise? The reason why I’m bringing this up is I was in a relationship with a “Christian”. During most of our relationship I had some pretty serious health issues so I couldn’t see what was going on behind my back but as time went on and my health improved it was obvious there wasn’t a day that had gone by that this “Christian” hadn’t lied to me and her lies always centered around other men. I had my suspicions but she would always lie about where she was at and what she was doing but denied it whenever I’d question her about it. Finally after I saw all the text messages and phone calls (we had the same cell phone account) I left her and moved on with my life. When your in love with someone who believes so much in God and they tell you their being honest with you, you naturally believe much like TA was to JA

     Jodi loved this man and he used her for his own sick twisted sexual fantasies. TA claims JA was stalking him to the point that even friends of his friends knew about it but how many times did he call the police and file a report? When his tires were slashed he called the police but to the best of my knowledge never mentioned that he thought it was J that did it. The relationship was over but rather than do the right thing and cease all communication with her he decided to keep the door open use her. As long as TA was keeping those lines of communication open it gave her hope. JA became so desperate and was so hurt it caused her to do the unthinkable. Who in their right mind would allow the person that’s stalking them in their apartment much less have sex with him/her.

     There was a shoe print found in a pool of blood at the crime scene but yet the DA never had it tested to verify it was JA’s in the meantime J is claiming someone else was there but the DA sits on the evidence that could help you. Nurmi should have hired his own ME to dispute Hunt’s testimony on the possible sequence of events but didn’t. Nurmi during closing arguments admitted he didn’t like Jodi, the judge had to correct him and he rephrased his statement. Imagine fighting for your life and the one person who can save you admits he doesn’t like you. What really pisses me off is Travis used her, in return she gave him a love he wasn’t worthy of.

280. Just wanted to Thank You for sharing all these videos and information on the trial – I was unable to watch all of the trial live so was able to play catch up while at work. I’ve been trying to watch the Oscar Pistorious trial and have not been able to find a site where I can watch on my phone besides what is posted on You Tube.

     Thank You for taking the time to do this!!!

281. This is sad what has happened, I wish she had not kill him,all she had to do ,was put itching powder in his pants and let him itch for a couple of days,and walked away and have nothing to do with him again,in time she would have met a man who would have really loved her.Also she really should have gone to his Bishop and told on him and the sex thing .I don’t believe she planned killing him,let’s get real your American cop shows ,show the crims how to do ,it and get away with it .As for Jodie she left her fingerprints ,all over ouch.In my country if someone kills someone its like winning the lotto as this kind of thing just does not happen, we are still the lucky country where there is peace,our prime minister can sit in a cafe eating sandwiches and no guns no body guards,and he feels safe and loved lol In your country you can’t swing a cat and everyone is on death row,that is sad.My heart goes out to both families,nothing in their lives will be the same again,and I really believe this at the end of the day God with judge what’s in man’s heart and not what they say.

282. To All:
     This is out of control. A witch hunt by the State of Arizona for blood revenge, NOT JUSTICE.
     Jodi Arias is being railroaded, and abused in prison, and it must STOP.
     We do not know about being denied medical help, as we have asked the ACLU to check
     on Jodi’s health, which they did, several months ago. It is reasonable to assume, based on
     this case that the Sheriff and State is doing everything to coverup inmate abuse in Arizona.

     As for this case in review, there is loads of reasonable doubt. Self defense in fear of ones own life, as
     Jodi put it in an interview, indicates it was NOT a planned event, as the overzellous prosecutor claimed.
     What people seem to forget is, that Travis Alexander was not a saint. In fact, he did abuse and rape her on several occasions, and just because its wasn’t reported, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

     Our concern is the Health, Safety and Welfare of Jodi Arias.
     The record must be corrected and wrongful conviction repealed.

     She too has suffered a lot, and having to wait five years in prison cell for a corrupt trial is not justice.
     Jodi as well as all inmates needing medical assistance should be offered without an reservations.
     This is America and Jodi is an American Citizen with US Constitutional Rights.
     We must all stand up and say NO MORE ABUSE.

     We support Jodi because its the right thing to do.
     SP

     • SP, great post! Come join us at the new thread that’s up: https://jodiariasisinnocent.com/new-jodi-arias-art-gallery-website-launched-live-justice-for-jodi-arias/#comment-214451

       I am going to copy/paste your comment there. I am sure a lot of others would love to read it and it’s more likely they will see it there… 🙂

283. luv u jodi

284. Hey Jodi. I am so sorry for what you are going through. Jesus loves you and I do too. I pray to God justice will prevail for you. I support you.

285. I thought this case was over and just recently realized it wasn’t. I don’t really know a lot about all the particulars as many of you seem to but I am anti DP in general and especially in a case like this where there has been abuse. I generally post on political sites but came across an item on this case and wanted to see what was going on.

     It seems obvious that once a jury deadlocks on the DP, the most one could get as a sentence would be life. Trying more than once to kill someone should be unconstitutional and would be if we got more anti DP justices on the court which is why I generally work on political issues and candidates rather than individual criminal cases. Jodi is at least lucky that she has supporters-so many in this unfair justice system are completely alone and have no support.

     I just can’t imagine why so many people want to kill this woman. It’s like torches and pitchforks. How can the state justify the expense here? She is still young and could certainly do good in prison and probably could qualify for parole at some point. It’s not like she has any kind of violent history so that she could be considered a threat to society at large.

     I am also always suspect of men involved in religion and who are abusive. I’m an attorney, not a criminal one, but one who still manages to volunteer to help domestic abuse victims, who often need help navigating the legal system and getting protection against their abusers. Many abusers rely on religious excuses for mistreatment, alleging they are the head of their home and are allowed to discipline and train their wives. Haven’t dealt with many Mormons but I know they ascribe to some seemingly starnge beliefs involving men ruling over their own planet and having multiple wives in heaven. Who knows what kind of “religious” beliefs Jodi was exposed to by this guy?

     I’ll keep checking in here to see if there is any help needed. Keep up the good work.

286. I have a question for all the lawyers in the house. Specifically, this 2nd penalty phase trial.
     Other then the jury deciding life or death, if there is reasonable doubt uncovered over any part of this or court and state corruption or lies, will it change the wrongful conviction from the first trial?

     If there is doubt of any kind, what can be done?

     What happens if this trial shown Jodi was in fact abused.Can she get a reversal of the first trial?

     We can’t trust the laws or courts in this country so what can Jodi do to get a fair trial?

     What are the options? Is it too late? The first trail got it wrong and we all know that there is reasonable doubt and there was no pre-meditation. Can Jodi get this changed?

     What are the options? What can we the people do to support getting a correction or fair trial?

     Any thoughts.
     Thank you.
     SP

287. Travis started dating Jodi Arias whom he called a pathological liar when he spoke with Linda Boss at the Arizona State Fair in 2006. What were those lies that Travis said were lies that he used to make Ms. Boss think of Jodi Arias as a pathological liar? Were they lies or just a concoction of Travis Alexander’s to cover up his un-chastity sexual endeavors with Jodi to make everyone think that Jodi was a monster when in fact it was Travis and like Ms. Boss stated Travis had a fondness for Roller Coasters were his bashing of Jodi while in the presence of friends would create a new track opposite of the track that he used with Jodi in their sexual escapades. Travis liked Roller Coasters and this trial sure has been a roller coaster ride one after the other, just like Travis designed it to be.

     • Ms. Boss made the comments about Travis liking roller coasters and Jodi being a pathological liar in an interview with Nancy Grace. So what were the lies Ms. Boss? Or was they any lies at all other than the lies told about Jodi Arias?

288. I don’t believe in killing, nor do I believe that you, Jodi has to be put to death. I was mentally and emotionally battered everyday for 14 years by a very sick and abusive husband who was converted to Mormonism by his previous girlfriend. I believe that when he joined the Mormon church, he was automatically handed the power (Melchizedek Priesthood) to be the “leader” over a woman and his family (no matter how unworthy, sick and twisted the man’s mentality is), which paves the way to control and abuse.

     If what you claim is true (self-defense after Travis went for you), I was like you. I had to barricade myself in a room and warned my husband who was trying to break the bedroom door that I had a loaded gun and I was aiming the gun towards the door ready to pull the trigger if he came in. It was to be either me or him. I have a gentle, sweet soul cousin who was also abused by her husband. She said and I say it too, that when you are cornered and pushed to the limit mentally, you snap. You lose everything and your mind turns black and you turn like an animal ready to fight for your life. I experienced that everyday of the 15 years I was abused. It took so much strength and all of me to keep sane because I had been to many point where I was about to lose my mind.

     If that was your case, Jodi, you don’t deserve to be put to death. Perhaps you deserve 10, 15 years, the most 25 years if you don’t win an appeal- but you shouldn’t be there for the rest of your life. Your life is valuable and you being there for life is a waste of life.

     I understand the Mormon culture. And I understand why Travis’ friends testified the way they testified. Being an ex Mormon, I know the way they think. You are an outsider and you don’t belong because you do not have the Gospel.

     I do hope that you won’t be sentenced to death. I thought and thought about this and I decided to donate a little amount of money because you need assistance to avoid the death penalty. You are not evil. You lied and ran away because you were in denial that the crime ever happened.

     Good luck and I am praying for your life to be spared.

289. Jodi I pray for U I want that U will find peace and DP will be dropped and U will be freed I can only wish that all those haters will be ban from life was lock up and sent to prison for injustice and D threats will stop I did not like it when prosecutor JM called UR sister dumb that was not nice I can only hope that the day comes when he regrets even meeting U Jodi he is not nice and hope he pay the price for being a jerk

     I want to add one more thing or 2 I also pray for defense and family that R getting threats may U family find peace of mind that wickedness will ether stop or be cast out I have to say I love women with all my heart I fear other women seeking DP trust U more then them

290. Enrique Cortez and his Ghost – Taken directly from Detective Flores report page 15 as well as my own add-ins relating to other information in the Flores Report.

     Enrique Cortez – The last time he (Enrique Cortez) remembered seeing Travis was on Weds. June 4th, 2008. Enrique remembers seeing Travis that morning and Travis told him (Enrique) he had a conference call scheduled that day. Travis also told him that he (Travis) hadn’t slept very much, only getting about 45 minutes of sleep that night. (June 3rd, 2008)

     The last time that he thinks he (Enrique) remembered seeing Travis was on Weds. evening after he got home from work. Enrique said that he normally get home from work at 6PM or 6:30PM. Also remember that Melendez says that the last activity on Travis laptop was at 4:19 on the 4th of June, 2008, almost twenty minutes after Zach has left to visit his girlfriend.

     He (Enrique) remembered seeing Travis on the phone, possibly a conference call. But according to the time and date stamps of the images on the camera Travis would have already have been dead by the time Enrique comes home from work. So how is it possible that Enrique sees Travis on the conference call between 6PM and 6:30PM on Weds June 4th when Travis is already supposed to be dead? Flores also mentions that Travis missed his conference call. Yet Enrique says that he remembers seeing Travis on the phone during the evening of the 4th of June.

     Where is Jodi at during this time? According to the time and date images on the camera Jodi would have been in the process of cleaning up the mess in the bathroom when Enrique arrives home from work. But how is it possible to be cleaning up the mess during this time when Enrique says Travis is on the phone possibly on a conference call.

     It can’t be Jodi masquerading as Travis because there are two differently sized people. Jodi is very bountiful in her appearance and her bounty would have stuck out like a yellow in a field of white if it had in fact been Jodi portraying Travis coming down stairs that Enrique says he sees later in the evening on the phone doing a conference call.

     Enrique clearly states that he sees Travis walking downstairs on the phone on a conference call. A conference call that both Flores and PPLS says that Travis missed yet Enrique says that Travis was taking part in sometime between 6PM and 6:30PM when like Enrique says he usually arrives home from work around.

     Where is Jodi doing this conference call? Is she upstairs cleaning herself up after the last episode of rough sex with Travis? Is this the point at which Travis and Jodi then go back into his loft to take more pictures? Based on the photo evidence Travis is already dead.

     …Yet Enrique says that he sees Travis on the phone conducting a conference call as Enrique is eating in the kitchen as he sees Travis walking down the stairs, on Weds. June 4th, 2008 sometime after 6PM.

291. I’m so happy I found this site. I’ve been a silent Jodi Supporter for the past couple of years and never really got information off the internet about her, just newspapers. Now I have a place to state my views and opinions on why Jodi Arias should not spend one more day in prison. Totally unjust. Thanks for all the courtroom docs you provide. Much appreciated!

292. Praying for Jodi and the Arias family tonight and all the friends as well. I pray this jury returns a life verdict and that if a death verdict is rendered that the appeal process will produce justice and give a new trial so all the wrongdoings and circus will be brought to light. Have a great sense of sympathy and compassion for Jodi and the family. Jodi is a human being and no matter what happened that day she is loved, forgiven and deserves a future like the rest of us. We should never dismiss someone’s life like they are doing to Jodi and just throw away the evidence of an abusive relationship based on the persons faith or so called faith. Praying for justice to be done someday.

293. Anxiously awaiting the decision… why is it taking so long?

294. To whom it may concern (e.g. SJ):

     Is there a reason you have disabled the “Right Click” (context sensitive menu access) for your pages?

     It allows for easier browsing. It lets the reader get back to the original page with the link (by reselecting the original tab) in cases where the link is broken, busy, or otherwise not available. Here is the replacement line of code (starting at line 32 of your opening page source code) if you wish to iimplement it. Any similar sections on other pages will need to be updated also:

     Replace the following line:
     document.oncontextmenu = function() { return false; }
     with this line:
     document.oncontextmenu = mousedwn;

     If you disabled it intentionally and want to tell me why, Please respond here in this thread. My email is not working right now.

295. I followed this case along with everyone else, and I agreed with the verdict. What I didn’t agree with was the punishment. At no time did anyone really delve into the relationship JA & TA had. From what little I’ve been able to glean from news reports. Jodi was rightfully convinced by TA that they were in a premarital relationship. She was prepared mentally and emotionally to become his wife. She gave of her heart and body to that end. Consider the shock to her psyche when Travis tells her that he not only won’t marry her, but alludes to the idea that she was just a piece of ass to him. The shock and anger at that kind of betrayal and the knowledge that she had been used as some kind of cheap sex toy is what set her off. (Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.) At that moment, I believe she was no longer in her right mind. Not insane, but if Prince Charming had come into her life at that moment, she would have brushed him aside. She was now on a mission. Does that constitute premeditation? Legally yes, morally, I’m not so sure. I believe that if Travis had been honestly in love with Jodi, she would have made a near perfect wife for him. He had become her world. When that world was shattered, she lashed out in pain. Did she lie to investigators? Yes, very few people admit their crimes at first. Does she deserve to die? I can’t see it, and I’m a death penalty advocate. What she should have gotten was the standard life sentence where after “X” number of years she would be eligible for parole, That could translate into as little as seven years. I don’t see her as being any kind of a danger to society, now or years from now. The sentence of life without parole was more media driven retribution than measured punishment. I hope the appeals courts will see this and hand down a lesser and more logical sentence.

     • Ray, I know it was hard to follow Ms. ALV’s testimony because of the continuous objections of the prosecutor, but she went through their relationship from the time that they met until June 4th, 2008. Jodi was on the stand for eighteen days explaining their relationship.

       Jodi lost the loving/marrying feeling for TA in the summer of 2007 when she found the text messages on his phone. Now that we have heard some of his text messages sexting up to eight women at a time we have a flavour of what she found that day. What was most disturbing to her was that a couple of these women were married Mormon women, blowing apart her image of TA and his supposed belief in the sanctity of marriage. Jodi has referred to their relationship after that point was one of convenience, something she has expressed regret for having gone along with. That certainly doesn’t fit with your theory of “shock to her psyche” about marrying her.

       • This passage best sums up their relationship for me except the part about his unconditional love for her, because I don’t believe that TA was capable of that with anyone.

         Jan 24-08 JAA Journal Entry

         “Well, speaking of Travis, he frustrates me and thrills me. I love love love him, and he sings to me, goes out of his way for me, displays massive amounts of unconditional love for me in countless ways. I’m almost haunted by it. But it still remains that I cannot marry him. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but something is just off w/that boy. We’ve all got head problems, that’s for sure. But there are certain things that will never sit right w/me about him. “

     • And, Ray, that expression “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” is pure bullshit. According to statistics a woman in the U.S. is assaulted or beaten every 9 seconds and three woman are killed by their husband or boyfriend every day. Where’s the “cute” expression about men’s fury? That piece of propaganda is just some fancy way of saying we can’t find any other reason she would want to kill him so it must have been that hellacious fury of a woman scorned. Sure she was hurt but she was moving on with her life. And if every woman who is treated badly by a man resorted to killing there would be a massive shortage of men but again according to statistical analysis, over 100 million women are missing from this earth. Who’s fury do think accounts for that?

       • Actually, in the name of fairness and accuracy, most of those missing females are a result of selective abortion, female infanticide and neglect. But the population is still disproportionate if you think a woman’s anger at being mistreated is a common motive for murder.

         And another statistic (from the FBI): “Of the [homicide] offenders [in 2012] for whom gender was known, 89.6 percent were male.” So let’s talk men’s fury. And, for that matter, let’s talk about Travis’ angry outbursts at times when Jodi was always being nothing but respectful.

296. I’m somewhat sympathetic to Jodi’s plight, but I do wonder about all the charges of her stalking Travis. Climbing through the dog door in his apartment, suddenly appearing under his Christmas tree, slashing tires etc. I understand evidence for these incidents wasn’t presented at trial … so where did they come from?

     I’m fascinated with this case. Even if she did “murder” him, her sentence seems overly extreme, compared to what other criminals get for more severe crimes. I have the feeling she was being punished for her sexual appeal, more so than for a serious criminal act.

     • But of course. The demographics of Arizona tell libraries of prejudice against a very attractive young defendant. At one point the lynch mob outside the sentencing court house looked like a que-line for Green Lawns Rest.

     • I agree with you. Absolutely right. The sentence is extreme, she is being punished, unjustly punished, even if she comitted If It were premediteted, wich I think wasn’t, is too much, in Spain at least a Life sentence its only for terrorists and such. Having said that, I think she did not premediteted. And if she did, is she a dangerous person, to be convicted for Life? Or would she just be a hurted woman being overwhelmed and desperate and so much abused that she could not take It anymore? Again, I think she did not planned It, and even defending her own Life, I believe, was something completely new for her, so new that she could not believe she have done It, therefore she represed and forgot It. But, dont you think the Justice in USA its very inhuman? Just a thougth, from an outsider. Its a sentence far too severe even for a crime of pasión, that girl is not danger for anyone, what she needs is to be helped, and ,to add, that dog searching at her room in jail? What is this? No Justice,no human rigthts in jail, its too much,she is Broken , she changed so much over these years …she is much more thin, pale, sad, they took away her brigth Spirit, its a punishement,no doubt, against women, for being atractive, and intelligent, and so much more, and Kind, too nice and too naive I dare day. Justice over there are a bunch of bullies influenced by media and popular opinión. Its not rigth.

     • I agree with you,. George.

       • Hi Elena,

         Welcome to the site! The site is actually very simple to navigate. If you notice the comments section on the right side of the web page. it contains previous comments from other people. These comments include the person’s name and the particular web page which involves the GoFundMe page to assist Jodi in her efforts to have the prosecutor from her case sanctioned or removed for his conduct during the trial. This webpage also includes the most recent conversations involving this case. I hope this helps. I would also invite you to check out the link in the first comment by Justus.. which contains a complete recap of this case and our stance. It should help you with any questions you may have.

297. When your life is one big lie, you have to tell a lot of them to keep up the façade.

298. Love you Jodi, it’s 2016, and you are still in my thoughts. I have a felony case pending against me in New York State so I know how crooked and unreliable the justice system can be. All they want is their conviction, it’s like a game for them but they play with people’s lives. I hope you are aquitted and get your justice. Is there any way I can write to Jodi?

     • Jodi Arias #281129
       ASPC — Perryville
       Unit — Lumley
       P.O. Box 3300
       Goodyear, AZ 85395

       Good Luck Mina Tepes

299. Who ever is using my name, initials please stop.
     I am MP and you do not represent me in any way shape or form.
     I support Jodi because it is the right thing to do.
     Thank you
     MP

     • Interesting, hope this gets settled, thanks for speaking up MP!

300. i am a muslim woman , living in canada, i know what its like to be shun upon and treated badly by a man , not that all men are bad..but i see Jodi as i see myself , we all want the basic things that we are entitled to in life, respect, love and to be loved..Jodi in seeking these things ended up in abusive relationship and was victimized again and again by corrupted people..i hope you open up this site for more people to join cause the more supporters the reality of her being free , SOONER ..rather than later..the more we are prepared , financially , she can prepare to walk the hell oout of perryville….so happy she has people who listened to her and support her …Sincerley, Janice

301. Ok.
     As of today, we are hearing that the Arizona DOC Guards at Perryville, are Tearing apart Jodi’s room with Dogs almost EVERY DAY, with an excuse of looking for contraband.

     This is ABUSE and Harassment needs to stop.

     A massage was sent to the Governor and Arizona Republic News to investigate and hopefully put a STOP to this.

     Everyone needs to message the Governor and voice your thoughts on this unprofessional behavior of DOC inmate guards on abusing Jodi Arias.

     This has to stop.
     MP

302. Can anyone visit Jodi?

     • No

303. As of 4/3/17 found on the Arizona DOC web inmate search.
     Jodi’s Work Program/jobs assigned listed below.
     Work Program 8 record(s) listed.

     03/28/2017 STORE/WAREHOUSE E 72.5 0.5
     11/21/2016 PORTER-BUILDING E 40.0 0.1
     11/08/2016 PORTER-BUILDING E 40.0 0.1
     10/23/2016 PORTER-BUILDING E 40.0 0.1
     10/11/2016 PORTER-BUILDING E 40.0 0.1
     09/26/2016 PORTER-BUILDING E 60.0 0.1
     09/12/2016 PORTER-BUILDING E 32.0 0.1
     08/29/2016 PORTER-BUILDING E 32.0 0.1

     End of Report.

304. Your welcome Lucie,

     Nancy Grace seems to do that to a lot of people… She’s loud, obnoxious and sometimes very ill informed. I don’t know if your country has a version of her on your news but she finally stepped down last year!!! I hope the sites that I forwarded to you were helpful. Thanks for supporting the appeal fund.

305. I don’t believe Jodi Arias should be in Jail I believe she probably did commit the murder but the person she killed was a huge disgusting lying pig who was using her and living two lives. Does that mean she should have killed him no BUT I think there is such a thing as temporary insanity and Jodi should have been convicted of just that which would have given so many years in jail and she would have been out by a certain date or earlier on good behavior. Jodi’s lawyer KIRK NURMI WAS A COMPLETE ASSHOLE AND HE SHOULD BE BEHIND BARS. SHE DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE WITH THIS ASSHOLE KIRK NURMI I FEEL BAD FOR HER BECAUSE HER ASSHOLE EVIL BOYFRIEND PUT HER IN THIS SITUATION FOR USING HER AND HER LOSING HER MIND AND THEN SHE ENDS UP WITH ANOTHER ASSHOLE KIRK NURMI WHO PUT HER BEHIND BARS FOR LIFE. I REALLY HOPE SHE GETS ANOTHER DAY IN COURT AND IS RELEASED FROM JAIL WITH TIME SERVED!

306. Is anyone still actively working this site? I’d like to ask some questions that I am unable to find answers to. Who would I contact for this?

307. Hi JLW,

     If you would like to join the current conversation, you can click on the Most Recent post link at the left of this page and ask your question. You can also click on the wiki site that another supporter… Justus has created. It can be found at the top of every new thread. I have included it here for you as we have not yet posted it on this thread. You can also make a donation to Jodi’s appellate defense fund if you would like.

     http://justice4jodi.wikispaces.com

308. The Wiki site is not working, I thought I’d post here. First of all I’d like to mention that I feel sorry for Jodi, she must have been going through Hell having to commit such a crime, but what leads a person to do such. I have a feeling she was abused to some point where she lost control, but is she alone responsible or can one be aggravated in such ways to commit such doing?! Yes she did kill him as there seems to be no doubt.

     I don’t see any premedition, no intent. She was there to visit him, she had sex with him and maybe hoped she can change his mind, maybe he said something to her that once again hurt her feelings, like mentioning going to Cancun with this other women, could have been the reason for her shocked dropping the camera and him being aggressive and then the part with the self-defense claim, maybe she did have to defend, proof she ran to his closet is given, she would only run to the closet if it had reason, her saying the gun was there was maybe to grab it before he does or to protect herself from him going after her, and here the question why should she have stolen her grandfather’s gun and not stole the ammunition, as it was proven the ammunition found in Travis differs from what her grandfather’s was, who would steal a gun and leave the ammunition behind, what intent is it run around with a empty gun, what harm can be done with it! Even if she did take it, there is no proof she had any ambition to obtain ammunition or buy it or purchase it at any time, so a empty gun is not enough for me to say there was or is any intent.

     Back to the scene as she grabbed the gun in his closet, proof the angle of the shot was in a position where Travis could have been aggressive or threatening to her and she pulled the trigger, maybe all this hate and abuse then came up in her that moment and she completely lost control of her doing, a total emotional black out,the fact that the whole thing was so cruel proves she must have endured a lot of abuse and this was the valve,it was released in a very tense way, this woman never did anything wrong, never had a issue.

     What ponders me most and I have nowhere seen anyone give information nor even come up with this subject and that no one has ever questioned this: The camera drops where the shower is and this is where it all started, the camera accidentally makes a picture of the ceiling probably as it fell to the ground, now the fight starts and went on 62 seconds, as they reach the end of the his hallway entering the bed/living room where she cuts his throat as prosecution claimed, now please answer this: the camera finds itself right behind her making one more picture 62 seconds later. How can this be? If it fell on the floor close to the shower how did it get to the end of the floor 62 seconds later??? did she pic it up and carry it the whole time over while stabbing him, following him down the floor to then place it on the floor to finish him off? Because that picture of him lying on the floor was the last, supposedly you can see her foot and him, how did that camera get there, why is it even on the right side if she’s lefthander and why would she trigger it once more? I think the fall next to the shower triggering it once might be coincidence but twice and that right there where the fatal blow was 62 seconds later? Pardon but this sounds fishy to me! Is there more to the case we don’t know, was it setup? Did someone set her up? Why couldn’t or didn’t she say anything to this, why wasn’t anything ever mentioned, is it because she maybe lied before and no one would believe her if she told the truth? Providing us with such evidence as that last picture I think all have the right to question how did that camera get from the place it fell on the ground next to the shower to the end of the floor to make the final shot of the fatal blow?

     Dear Jodi, it’s not right to take a person’s life, I don’t approve to your doing if this was the case, each person has the right to choose upon who suits them best, we can’t try to hold things we don’t possess. Best is to let go and carry on dear. That should have been the best advice people could have gave you, if all those that had knowledge of what was going on would have stepped in this wouldn’t have come so far, it’s sad to see such young lives lost.

     I wish you well Jodi, may God bless and forgive you.

     George

     • George, When you say the Wiki site is not working, I assume you are referring the one called “Jodi Arias: An Argument for Reasonable Doubt”. Wikispaces, which is where the site was previously parked, closed its doors last year so the document was moved to:

       http://jodiarias.justice4usall.com

       If you read this I hope you will see that Jodi was not angry, she was afraid for her life. It was totally self-defense. She is ashamed to this day that it went that far but she was in a blackout state during that time, a state that the psychologists who testified in her behalf explained as normal in her extreme state of terror. And that state was a result of his having attacked her before and even choked her into unconsciousness. As far as what you mention being the “fatal blow 62 seconds later”, we can’t surmise that just because it is the last photo that is the end of the battle. It could be just after she accidentally shot him, she’s standing up to escape down the hallway and kicks the camera in the process. I’m not saying that’s accurate; I’m just saying we shouldn’t presume when exactly the last photo was taken in the full course of the violence.

309. P.S. our curiosity got us because not just the camera but also the timer, we thought about the fact that it all allegedly occurred within a timeframe of less than 2 min, has the prosecution ever tried to reconstruct the paths taken the stabs made the shot done, the slit in his throat at the end of the floor within those 2min from where the camera falls near the shower all the way to the fatal blow in the floor to see if that timeframe is even doable, I’m sure nothing of that happened but it obvious if you try that the 2min or even less are no where close to what is realistically needed! I’m sure alone him having to Go from the sink and crawl all the way up that floor must have took more than 2 min with those injuries, you can’t stab a person 27 times within 60 seconds, that’s 1 stab per 2 sec, try to stab a gelatin dummy in various positions 27 times in less than 1 min, I assure you that you won’t make it and you won’t have enough energy left to drag a person twice your own weight back to the shower and then to even lift him! I’m 1,87 cm 95kg a big strong guy, I failed the attempt of doing this on a gelatin dummy in less than 1 min, also note we had to stab the front and back side and various other positions as been displayed. I was happy to have enough strength left to sit down despite the fact that i’d have to drag a corpse twice my weight down a hall and to then lift him into a shower and this all in less than what 2 min, I bet 9 out of 10 can’t even manage all this in less than 5 min. Something here is awfully wrong and I am really asking myself if she’s not taking the blame out of fear as she claimed the first time, she can never have done this in that timeframe, that camera is ridged for some reason because it’s simply not realistic! Scapegoat?

310. Thought I’d write here once again due to the fact people on various platforms labeled this case and we all know the internet or media create a artificial hype. Often seen on news or in forums! I’ve been questioned upon our theory about the 62 seconds and people claim the the timing was proven by prosecution, I question by what! Timestamps on pictures eventually placed manually due to the fact that a pictures recovered on unallocated space would never show the timestamps with the included allocation description below! This is why many on platforms speak without knowledge, how about asking forensics in general that have nothing to do with this case and ask them what would pictures look like after recovering them, I assure you it would only post the original as recovered with no additional remark, there can’t be any remarks on it as you are reconstructing last data to its original! Above all let’s take that very last picture on Mr Alexander and Ms Arias, I’d like people to place a pillow or anything before themselves representing Mr Alexander as in that picture, now place a camera behind yourself as it would have been in that picture, now please explain how you are going to trigger it while standing upright, you can’t unless you bend down, that would surely conclude to seeing more of her body in that picture than just her lower leg. The only way to shoot a picture would be for her to crouch down, that wouldn’t match either because the moment she would crouch the rear part of her pants would lift to some point, as you see on the picture that leg is fully stretched and the rear part of pant is absolutely horizontal to the front part, it would also create a fold in the pant going in the opposite direction, not as shown on that picture. In order to see it correctly you need to align the picture absolutely horizontally, so how was the picture shot, a timer? If so the camera stores the last timer setting, simple to verify no data recovering needed. Let’s proceed, not just is all of that questionable also the fact that the lower leg and the foot seem to be of larger size, forensic can do measurements, those have not been done either to indicate if the size of that foot or leg could belong to the person accused. Let’s continue, if the possibility would have existed for the person to crouch reaching back to make a picture the right arm or body part reaching to the back would have thrown a shadow due to the fact the ceiling lights were on, I can’t see any shadows on that picture either. Let’s continue, why should a left handed person leave a palm print on a wall if a left handed person would surely use their left hand instinctively to drag someone, above all this, you all forget the claim is this all happened in 62 seconds, he was soaking wet, you can’t drag someone that is soaking wet twice your weight down a floor one handed, let’s continue, if the person was soaking wet those blood marks on the ground wouldn’t have looked like drops they would have smeared the whole floor, from the shower to the sink all the way down the hall and let’s continue, if there must have been smears why are there no footprints to be seen in those at least his should be there due to the facts he’s dripping blood along the wall and below himself, no smears of his crawling, he didn’t crawl as shown in various videos, he was using the walls to hold himself upright, this is why you see the blood marks along the entire wall and the blood dripping down along the wall, you can forensically find out how much time it would have took him to go down that hall according to the stains on the wall and this much is sure it 62 sec is not enough because you have to include the shower the sink and the wardrobe part in that timing, but those stains on the wall and the ground are of greater amount meaning it would take a longer period of time to create them, simple less time less stains, more time greater, larger and more stains and we do have larger stains every few inches along that hallway leaving us with the conclusion he had to pause or was stopped every few feet/inches and the blood caused a greater stains to drip down the entire wall, you see a shoe print in a few but of larger size ( picture displays person in socks), no one questioned how those shoe prints got there, the claim was the person that found Mr Alexander could have left it there, but in the shower too? and why didn’t police secure the shoe print to assure it was from the person that found him but hold on let’s think professional, you can’t leave footprints on bloodstains that are supposedly a few days old because of the simple fact the blood has dried! Let’s continue, I see rude comments and labeling her for her sexual interests or things she did to please the person she shared intimate moments with if it pleasured her or not, the media hype ain’t great because of the sad fact of how Mr Alexander was killed, it’s this large because of the sexuality involved, please folks don’t point your fingers at someone for their sexuality if the allegations you make upon this individual are none other than that! You can’t label a person for things you’ve all practiced as well! Like Jesus said, those free of sins throw the first stone! So why are you all talking!
     I can go on and give many more examples of why evidence doesn’t fit into place, one things for sure, if you all place the right questions and use the right methods you might change your point of view. I hope her defense will question some of this and maybe we might get a different picture, justice is not always what it seems to be, this is nothing new, sometimes it to satisfy the statics. I often think due to the fact she lost the most important thing in her life it wouldn’t have made a difference to her to maybe admit something she might or might not have done, others could have been lurking for a opportunity to do evil as well, Mr Alexander was a very active person according to the many, the mormons didn’t like that attitude either. I recall Ms Arias saying out of fear, sometimes you take the bitter pill not to let others harm the ones you love, if you can intrepid psychology the right way you might come to the conclusion she once made a picture of a mouth with a blue pill. Did she swallow the bitter pill?!

311. I don’t know much about the trial. I am from overseas. I just watched a telemovie about Travis’s murder today. After watching it, I have to say, I felt really sorry for her. He really messed her around and pushed her to a place of no return. I don’t know what they teach in Mormonville but we always learn that if you are a Christian, you don’t use people for sex. How can he be “in lust” with Jodi at the same time he is “in love” with this Morman girl?It doesn’t work like that.
     If there was a social climbing sociopath, it was Travis.
     He sounded extremely emotionally manipulative.
     In fact, it sounds like the legal system is designed to serve men’s sexual needs and protect them, not women.

     • Disvelief, I agree with you to some extent; my thoughts as a Criminalist, the system did fail on Jodi’s Case. I don’t know what the mind set was on the defense lawyer, but it seems as if it was a one sided trial. I believe that both Jodi and Travis had issues. . . . they never received medical help. However, I think she had plenty of opportunities to cut/end this relationship before it got to that point.

       There are hundreds of questions unanswered. A lot of evidence that has not yet been analyzed the way it should.

       On the religion point that you make; I feel bad for Jodi because she was and still is a lost soul. Looking for a religion/believes without guidance. becoming a Mormon for her was just a means to please him; THE WRONG REASON FOR CHOOSING A RELIGION.

       I am a Roman Catholic, even I questioned my believes at one point in my life and felt lost. I looked for another religion; when I came upon a Bhudist Monk from Thailand, he set me straight and then I became a better Roman Catholic.

312. I’ve often wondered if Travis’ true reason for never regarding Jodi as anything more than a disposable sex object had to do with the fact that she was Spanish, and thereby of a “low race” in his eyes.

     It is well known that Travis’ religion of Mormonism is extremely white supremacist, its racism originating in the fervently white supremacist mentality of its founder, Joseph Smith. What’s more, very soon after dumping Jodi, Travis took up with a “more suitable” girl with a “proper” Northern European, Anglo-Saxon last name.

     Did Travis know Jodi is Spanish? Did she ever tell him that? And did Travis ever make any sort of comment to her (or anyone else) about her race, and/or it being an issue for him?

     Spanish people — particularly the more “white” Spanish — tend to think of themselves as a variety of white, and usually have no idea that most whites don’t reciprocate that sentiment. And so the “white Spanish” tend to exist in a kind of limbo whereby they don’t necessarily fit into Latino culture, but they also aren’t truly accepted by Northern European white culture, either. This predicament is very hard on them, psychologically, particularly when they don’t yet consciously understand that this whole dynamic is going on, because usually their white “friends” and even their supposed lovers won’t divulge how they truly see them.

     Everything I’ve seen about the Jodi Arias case points me toward this being the true cause of everything that happened, and that Travis was likely a typical white, closet white supremacist — and a member of the white supremacist religion of Mormonism — who simply wouldn’t divulge to Jodi that he’d always thought less of her because of her being Spanish and therefore not truly white. And because Jodi never in a million years would’ve thought of herself as any kind of inferior race, it was unfathomable to her why Travis would just cast her aside like he did.

     The ugly spectre of racism secretly underlies much, much more in American life than we either realize or want to admit. And I think that it’s not only a shame that it very possibly is the reason for the death of Travis Alexander, but also a shame that it wasn’t thought of by any of Jodi Arias’ defense attorneys, who could’ve then investigated it as a reason for Travis’ treatment of Jodi, as well as Jodi’s ultimate snapping.

     • It might have had some racist aspects but I don’t think that this is the main reason at all, only a side aspect so to say, if at all. That she was not from a rich, influential and respected Mor(m)on family (like him looool, oh the irony…) might have been a bigger reason for this wannabe and douche but also not the main one I believe.
       But maybe even more the very real and massive misogynistic aspect of that cult, and not the racist one.
       This sick and disturbed boy was all about show and pretense, not about being genuine, honest and a real man at all so these shallow reasons might played all into his hypocritical mind and pitiful intent to pretend being a “devout” mormon to gain influence for himself in this sick cult, all based on lies and hypocrisy.

       That is true for all religions/churches and religious people to some extent but LDS is for sure the most pathetic and ridiculous one – by far. I mean you couldn’t even invent such a ridiculous and pathetic cult if you wanted to when you are sane in the brain.
       That starts with the outstanding absurd founding fairy tale, the remarkable ridiculous stuff they believe in which is even scientifically disproven and absurd to begin with anyway and ends with their disgusting overall agendas (misogyny, racism, making big money from extremely gullible and stupid people aka their members – the last one being their most important agenda since tithing is the most enforced duty of the members…guess why!).
       However, con man Joseph Smith DID invent all that nonsense out of thin air back in the 19th century.
       This sick and pure fraud and big business cult and money fraud scheme LDS and their of course officially forbidden (since as late as the late 70’s) but inherent and still existing racism cannot be denied, but aside from being racist it is more of a cult, wet dream and cesspool from and for insecure and classless losers like TA and similar pseudo men, insecure in general but especially regarding women, and basically a cult that promotes disrespect for women, you can say almost hates them and just wants to use them as commodities and breeding machines etc. A racist and misogynistic fraud cult/scheme all around.
       This goes back as far as to its foundation by that con man clown Joseph Smith – it was all just a wet dream of insecure (and racist ) pseudo men. Full of hypocrisy, bigotry and keeping the pretense and no authenticity, and of course an official “ok” to fuck and marry kids and women, more than one on top of it.

       My advice, one I’ve posted here a few times already, if you want to learn more about LDS/Mor(m)onism, are these brilliant satirical videos from an Ex-Mormon, very funny but also fact-based/accurate, highly intelligent satire (and no, I’m not connected to this guy and make advertising for him, it’s just top YT content) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0u7ZMWqkr7cKD_rvEXZUuQ/videos

       Hypocrisy, bigotry and keeping the pretense – basically the character and life description of that loser who is called the victim in this case for some unknown reason – a hypocritical and pathetic life you almost can’t describe to its full extent. No surprise he obviously went mental living such a dishonest and hypocritical pseudo life with not even traces of authenticity.
       Yes, sometimes he shows a big ego and self-righteousness and all these countless other disgusting and pitiful character aspects, but that is of course overcompensation of a weak, deeply insecure and classless character.
       From his actual actions, like being insecure and jealous about Jodi like a 15 year old boy while they were not even together and while he hunted down every ugly and not so ugly skirt he could find, his controlling/stalking behaviour regarding Jodi etc., you can see what and how he really was, pathetic.
       The “funny” part here is that there is NO audio and written evidence in their direct communications that Jodi was in any way jealous/stalking/controlling about him, rather the contrary – she wishes him all well and basically says do what you want or does not even mention other girls at all, while there is a shitload of this evidence on his part – yet, SHE is called the stalker by the degenerated, simple-minded, dishonest and shallow HLN/Nancy DisGrace brainwashed public lynch mob.
       Ridiculous – it is also technically IMPOSSIBLE to be a stalker when the person you are supposedly “stalking” is jealous and totally controlling about YOU, and calls/text/mails/even wants to date and/or have sex with you/etc. almost every single day.
       IMPOSSIBLE from the very definition of the term, and precise language is what intelligent people use for communication, since for instance fear on the victim’s part is THE core aspect of the definition of stalking. So there is none here.
       Any person who claims Jodi was stalking him when they were not together, in other words for the last 1+ years is just a fucking brainless moron, and dishonest, but. the anti Jodi mob is full of braindeads and dishonest people after all, biased and intellectually dishonest to their bones.
       What she did when they were together was normal behaviour imho when you as a partner are suspicious that you are being cheated on and you simply want to know for sure and where you are at – and she WAS being cheated on after all, let’s not forget that, she had a reason to check the facts.
       So everytime I hear that “argument” in another group on FB I’m regularly discussing this case (or elsewhere) I know, among other obvious reasons, this person has not even traces of a working brain and intellectual honesty, yet these totally braindead people bring up that stalking topic again and again – really ridiculous sad excuses for human beings.
       As well as they over and over deny the fact that TA at the very minimum had pedophile desires, maybe even fulfilled some of them although the latter is not proven and pure speculation based on if the pedo letter is genuine or not which we don’t know.
       But that he had pedophile desires is of course 100 % proven, even by words out of his own mouth.
       Having telephone sex with your adult gf and having some harmless fantasies about schoolgirls and schoolgirl outfits is something distinctively different than explicitly having sex fantasies about and repeatedly mentioning a 12 year old CHILD, and solely a specific 12 year old child and not some anonymous schoolgirl which would probably inside sane brains refer to a girl 16+ at the very minimum or just to your adult gf you are just talking to in a school dress. Never a 12 year old child – that thought alone of a little KID in correlation with sex would not pedophile people actually turn off and not turn on, but it turned him on hence he specifically mentions a 12 year old kid over and over, and how hot such a little child sounds when she has an orgasm and how it would be to fuck that same 12 year old child in the ass etc., and that says all you need to know about that freak and pedophilia. Jodi was shocked as well during that call as you can hear from her pause and reaction trying to downplay it in her pitiful delusion about this guy back then.
       I at least find it outstanding disgusting as well, the fact itself and that there are seriously so extremely dishonest and disgusting douches who deny that very obvious fact.
       That all IS pedophilia by its very definition but these people are just too dumb to understand basic aspects of language and definition of terms. Some of them might just be intentionally dishonest and follow an agenda and know in fact better but that is just as disgusting and pathetic, maybe even worse than just being dumb and ignorant.

       Well, I did in fact write a lot more than I intended to and I went overboard topic wise but during breakfast I’m often bored and have some free time, so there’s that. 🙂

       Have a nice day!

313. To answer your question, you need to remember that Travis pursued Jodi when they were at the company outing in Las Vegas. Jodi went there on the referral of a friend who had noticed an ad for the company online while she was in California. Jodi was trying to figure out what she wanted to do in life, especially professionally as opposed to just working for her parents or in the restaurant business. Travis knew that Jodi was half Hispanic and ultimately didn’t care. Travis saw an attractive woman who was not with another man and made a move. I can’t speak on the tenets of Mormonism but I would imagine it has flaws like all others. In Travis’s case, he wanted to act like a non-Mormon man without the knowledge of the Mormon community at large, especially the bishops. It ended up being the worst kept secret in AZ as nearly all of Travis’friends knew what was going on as they knew of Travis’s sexual appetite. Jodi ends up converting to Mormonism for genuine reasons as she was falling in love and knew that this would be a requirement. As the relationship began to unravel, Travis still needed Jodi for purely sexual reasons as the many young Mormon women around him were devout and would not engage in these activities until marriage.
     I will also say that you do not have all of the facts related to this case or you would not have made the last statement. Jodi did not snap! Jodi was attacked and defended herself and Travis died as a result of his injuries.

314. Jodi was a “perfect” fit for the typical business man showcasing success. Wealth along with an attractive partner/wife who speaks beautifully as Jodi does in a public arena only elevates a man’s perception of success at all levels, and Jodi most certainly had the credentials far exceeding the Mormon virginal alternatives. What’s wrong with this Travis idiot not embracing Jodi and proudly introducing her as his future wife?

     How on earth did this Travis idiot envisage that a Mormon virgin he’d never had sex with prior to marriage would even be sexually compatible with him let alone sexually satisfying to the addictive level that Jodi was. There’s more likelihood that a Mormon virgin would be lucky to starfish him with duty sex one a month if he’s lucky than willingly fulfilling his depraved sexual fantasies.

     Of course the frumpy Mormon women friends wouldn’t like Jodi, she was way too hot and attractive for that mouldy lot seething with envy over the attractiveness that Jodi has and they don’t. Travis’s problem wasn’t Jodi, it was his obsession with his bible bashing Mormon crap that he wasn’t smart enough to realise is load of cult like unrealistic nonsense.

     It’s just a shame that such a beautiful girl didn’t experience the relationship she wanted with someone who appreciated her for who she is personally and didn’t treat her like a “thing” to emotionlessly use for sexual self-pleasure.

315. Hi there,

     I am floored by the talent of JAA in both art and writing, specifically in her journal/diary. I understand there’s about 600 pages of her journal, but I’m only able to find few low resolution scans online via the court documents. I’m wondering if there’s a more complete archive somewhere, and highly suggest that, if not, it be made into a book. I’d certainly pre-order a copy as I’m an avid collector of published journals. I find them fascinating and I believe others would as well. It would certainly be a way for JAA to earn revenue for her legal expenses. Just a suggestion!!! I would love if this could happen somehow.

     Thank you from your time.

     Best,
     Gail

316. Is there a way to contact the Admin of this site ? and what does the Admin think of the summary of the case at : https://worldpeacethroughworldwidedisarmament.blogspot.com/2022/11/113-22-reasonable-doubt-thread.html

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