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Jodi Arias Retrial, Day #792 – Deliberations Continue

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The hung jurors start day #5 of deliberations @ 9.30 am MST today.

The verdict — which I’m expecting sometime today — will be broadcast live @ www.CBS5AZ.com

— and while it’ll be good to finally get a “verdict” and bring this judicial fiasco to an end… it will also simultaneously mark the beginning of our quest for JUSTICE FOR JODI. Realistically, that in itself will probably take several years to achieve… and even though there are still countless unanswered questions out there, all we do know for certain is that we are here for the long haul, and WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS in our quest for JUSTICE FOR JODI… however long that may take.

Never question it.

Never doubt it.

Prepare for it.

A new page will go up once we get the promised 1 hour notice on the announcement.

Any relevant tweets & info will be posted in the comments section of this page as we go along.

In the meantime folks…

We Are Team Jodi!. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Leave your thoughts & comments below…

SJ
Team Jodi #WINNING <<<

Click the banner below to read Jade’s post – “Justice Denied: Why The Jurors Got It Wrong & How The Facts Decimate The State’s Case Against Jodi Arias.”:

Read - Justice Denied - Why The Jurors Got It Wrong & How The Facts Decimate The State's Case Against Jodi Arias
Click the links below to read Jade’s previous posts in the series:

The Immaculate Deception: Exposed
Michael Melendez – Perjury Exposed
The Presumption of Innocence
The Great Mormon Porn Swindle

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In addition, please DO NOT, under any circumstances, donate through any other website or Facebook page/group claiming to be “official” and/or acting with Jodi’s approval or authorization. The same applies to any “Jodi Membership Clubs”, groups or fake Trust funds that have been set up. These sites are bogus – as are their intentions – and they should be actively avoided. If you are aware of any such sites, please help Jodi by clicking here and reporting them. Thank you for your ongoing support!

We Are Team Jodi ---- And We Will Be Victorious!.

534 Comments

        • Justice forgive me, when I signed off from my long post, I hadn’t added your name to our collection of authors of complete cases for the defence of Jodi Arias. You probably have not yet read my rant, but the theme is: Look at the talent and generosity we already have among us to make our cases for justice for all. We were tricked into being under-served by all those high ticket, mediocre leaches.

          We don’t need them now, and WE DIDN’T NEED THEM back then. Looks what’s happened to Jodi in the meanwhile that we were trusting those deceivers. I’m sure God has a plan for her, I’ve already seen it change people she is around. But she would still have seven more years of her life had we never been duped into trusting those greedy deceivers that tricked us into giving up our own talent and logical problem solving in exchange for costly half backed ideas, waste, and inefficiency, when we had what we needed in our own hands all along. Jodi was tricked and deceived into giving up her freedom in the first place. What did she owe Flores. Just another domestic abuser, really.
          Others that deserve recognition for fighting on the right side, Sandra Weber, Inconvenient Truthes, Miss Pajama Girl: the body removed and returned has merit in IMO. I know there are more. We are very blessed, but I need rest. I’m about to read a Pitchforks paper I found this morning. Yep, it goes back in time to 2014, but at least that’s better than 2013 that I get teased about.:-)

  1. Good Morning everyone. Well SJ we might get a verdict if delusional JSS will except the fact that the jury is hung….
    It was very nice to have Al back.

    So here we go again another day of nail biting but as of yesterday we at least knew the jury could not all agree on the DP. Prying that has not changed….

    Praying for Jodi and her family….

      • Lol cindy, started the day off fixing the typo 😉 Seems I have at least one typo in every comment…EVEN after I proof read. So, I appreciate that someone else experiences the typos. I don’t bother ‘fixing’ them after I post unless what I have written makes absolutely no sense. 😀

        • Well Dorothy, I thought that I should fix the word praying… I’m normally using my phone and voice to texts…I guess my phone doesn’t like my voice..

          I do hope this will end today….well this part of it….

          • I think it will end today…this part of it.
            I stopped using voice to text. With my Boston accent there is NO hope that anything I say will be correct lol. It’s hilarious.

            • Hey I have a Midwest accent you should see the things that print out…..when my sisters and I texts we just leave what ever prints out..it’s a great chuckle for the day…

  2. I think JSS is just following the rules to make certain that the jury is not going to be able to get beyond this impasse. I wouldn’t want to be in the judges position now though.

    • I know your right but…..know matter what side your on JSS takes the wrath. You have to earn respect ……. She has not done that.
      From day one her courtroom has been a free for all. I’m sure she is a good judge in the lower courts….

      • you are to kind to JSS.. she has been trying to cover her ass through all of this instead of being a real judge!

      • I agree cindy, JSS is definitely out of her realm on this DP case. It was apparent from day one. One thing that is absolutely unacceptable is that she has allowed obvious things to go without repercussions ie., blatant displays in the gallery that could/did undoubtedly influence the jury. That is the kind of thing even I would know to address and I have absolutely no legal training.

    • I have no sympathy for the Judge. She knew what responsibilities this job held, she accepted it and she should be able to perform in a manner that would actually look like she was worthy of it. JSS has failed so many times now, I’ve lost count. Jodi should have been acquitted at the beginning of this farce. And, certainly there have been many motions made for MISTRIAL that should have been granted. In fact, every one of those motions should have been granted. JSS truly is a disgrace to the word JUSTICE.

      • Hey R. I didn’t say I felt sorry for JSS. I just said she had to be a decent judge for the lower court. How she ended up preciding over this case I don’t know. OK so they didn’t have enough judges for the case load or that’s the BS they want to spin.

        • I knew what you meant but as I have said before JSS shouldn’t be allowed to judge a pie eating contest IMO. I will stand by my decision. 🙂 Pitiful. The Frog has led her around by her nose this whole time.

      • Good Morning All !
        JSS is the one that allowed this mess to happen !! She did NOTHING to stop the state’s misconduct and turned a blind eye to every violation….

        • BB, they had no right to have her preside over this case. But that’s my own feelings. She was in over her head from day one. I do understand that judges have to get their experience someplace.. But like with any other job you have a mentor. I’m sure she had one on speed dial but he/she should have been in the court room with her. If nothing else she should have had control over “Her” courtroom!!!!

          I’m not to sure she will ever preside over a capital murder case again. But who knows???

    • My initial comment re: JSS following the rules was solely about sending the jury to continue deliberating this time..I did NOT mean to imply that she followed any other rules during this trial. I agree she is WAY over her head with this case, has proven that from day one and imo she should NEVER be allowed to preside over any other DP case. Either she is just not qualified OR she accepted a bribe. She has proven to me to be a disgrace to the justice system.

  3. Good morning,

    I have been a long time reader of this website for over 2 years. I feel like I know you all, although I didn’t comment.

    I am praying for justice for Jodi and am nailbiting waiting for a verdict so this can move on to the next phase.

    I appreciate all the information I have read here over time and thank you all for your contributions to the facts.

    Regards,
    AJ

  4. GOOD MORNING TEAM JODI!!!! PRAYERS FOR JODI, JODI’S FAMILY,
    DEFENSE TEAM AND THE JURY !
    May Jodi feel our Love, Support and Positive Thoughts. Hang in there Jodi we
    are with you all the way to FREEDOM!!! Inch by inch, step by step we march on!!!

  5. Good Morning everyone. For some unknown reason I am in knots today and I do not like the feeling one bit. It is my hope that the jury continues to be at an impasse and JSS does the right thing by declaring it and giving Jodi life.

    • Who’s time zone?? Thought I’d throw that in. You might be right BB.
      Or they might have sent that “note” to JSS before the end of the day yesterday and she decided to let it wait until this morning. I guess we will see what this morning brings.

    • Yes Bystander, I think the jury will send a note prior to lunch, the judge will notify the attorneys, the families, the press… and the verdict will be read after lunch.

    • Cindy, I think I recall in the beginning of the first trial Jodi hinted at ‘ineffective Council” when she requested that Nurmi be removed from the case. (I may be wrong). It was denied. Then when Nurmi stated during his closing during the first trial phase that “nine times out of ten” comment…may have been made for this purpose as well?

  6. I think if Jodi’s lawyers was this determined at her 1st trial and jodi didn’t take the stand I think she would’ve been dealing with a lesser sentence. Just my opinion.

    • It is important to remember that when Jodi wrote her hand printed, 12 page letter, to BEG the court to take Nurmi off the case, she documented that kurt Nurmi had left instructions for his secretary to hang up on Jodi and not to take any messages from her. In general I’m remembering that were periods of four months, up to 14 months that Nurmi would stay out of reach of Jodi, and refuse to respond to her. Since this is contrary to the manner that is spelled out in Arizona statues for a defence attorney to treat his client, I see no reason why he should not have his license put on ice for a while with a good dose of community service to see if it is possible for him to develop some empathy. If not, throw the BUM out!

  7. The wild west form of justice will begin soon. I just read Al’s second note and it is a very realistic prediction…but as i always see the glass half full even in situations like this, I will keep the hope alive that a great lawyer will come along and turn this thing around. Let’s all hope Judge Stephens does not get voted in again. That is possible because no matter what side you are on, she is not respected. Yeh, I know my thinking isn’t legaleze but I will hope for the best.

    • We are all on the same team here 🙂 and it is purely an intellectual argument, but I disagree with Al’s perspective and I believe he misses on his analysis of some of his points though he has every right to his opinion…..We are (((((TEAM JODI))))) and SJ always says we will be victorious, never doubt it !! And I never do…………..

  8. If jury comes back hung, any thoughts on what JSS will hand down?

    I’m going with LWOP. No way she’ll give her the chance of parole. IMO.

  9. Most of the jurors are there already! Hoping they just take another vote and then tell JSS they are hung with no hope of agreement.

    • She sent them back already. I think, because they are told to continue deliberating, they will probably take another vote, fully aware that no one will change his/her mind. They will sit for a while, for good measure, then notify judge AGAIN. I just hope she doesn’t send them back after this. It seems JSS does NOT want to get stuck with the responsibility of sentencing Jodi. She is probably afraid for her own safety. Being aware of what has happened to other professionals and witnesses, I wonder if she will be treated the same way by the hoards of evil haters…?

  10. Jurors are walking in courthouse. Some with headphones, some looking down, some looking at the press and smiling!

  11. Good Morning…..
    My prayers go out to Jodi and her family and to all of you.
    I am feeling much the same way that you all are. I am staying positive that jury’s decisions are IN JODI’S FAVOR. It is in God’s hands and I believe and I BELIEVE in HIS Grace and Comfort and Love for Jodi. I prayed a long prayer about 1 am, asking a bunch of why’s, pleases, thank yous,. When I am on a “direct line to God” with a very specific prayer request, I always fall asleep in a complete peace. I think He says “Jane, I got it”. HE is such a “nice guy” for us all.

    I have been here all along. Thank you for allowing me to be part of this wonderful site.
    God’s Blessings to all. I praise Him and feel “He has Jodi’s back”. Here is to a Victorious Day for Jodi and her Team.

  12. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 2m2 minutes ago

    Btw I was told yesterday that Judge Stephens has up to 45 days to sentence #jodiarias if jury is hung.

    • Pandora,
      I’ve spent the morning getting information about the Arizona Innocence Project.
      I made several phone calls, but so far I’ve only talked with voice mail.

      The Innocence Project route sounds like it could be very promising indeed. It is not “attorney” focused. It is instead out-of the-box. It’s own concept, so to speak.

      Info from their website:
      Causes we take in: Wrongful Conviction

      The Project appears to be sponsored by Northern Arizona University.

      Live-client actual innocence clinic that investigates
      I believe they may use law students to fill out their services.
      There is a 17 page screening/application form that needs to be filled out.

      I went through Jade’s complete series of documented evidence that she has prepared. A heroic piece of work.
      I think if folks at the Innocence end could open that up with a link, what they will see in front of them will be worth a million words.

      If we could get Jodi involved in this, she would finally be participating in her own defence. It would give her something to do that might make a difference. She would hopefully be dealing with people who operate from a core of compassion, not greed, hate, and indifference. These folks claim they are committed to freeing the marginalized.

      I cannot accept the notion that Jodi’s ONLY option is to go through a 20 year long appeals process. That kind of constrained thinking is nonsense. It comes from being guilted into thinking we should be using “the legal system.” I think we’ve already given the “legal system” a fair chance, and just how well did that work out? The recipes from their play book taste awful.

      They try to make us believe we are obligated to use it too use only their system. We don’t have to settle for getting ripped-off wasting years of Jodi’s life, and then receiving invoices from them to make us replace all their foolish spending out of our own pockets.

      The point is that this did not need to be a costly process in the first place, nor a long one. How much did it actually “cost” except a labor of love, for Jade to create everything that was ever needed to try Jodi’s case.

      *aside(I don’t understand how these electronic communications work, so I’m no help there. I’m officially turning the mechanics of sending and receiving over to someone like SJ, or one of his co-geniuses.) Someone needs to head up this project, print the 17 page application, and decide who should fill it out. It asks a lot of info that Jodi would know off the top of her head, like the date she was arrested, and other such memorable milestones. So She ought to be allowed to get started right away. Who of the lawyer crats out there have the authority to forbid her? The answer had better be, NOBODY.

      And she needs a computer IMMEDIATELY. The grimlins never had the constitutional right to deprive her of that, EVER. The constitution guarantees the right to assist in her own defence. What’s she suposed to do for information _ read tealeaves? A great benefit if this works out, is we will never be having to guess about what has been done, is being done, and what has been neglected. Think about it, all these years all of this Jodi family has pitched in and dug for legal answers, and new ideas, and clues to solve mysteries. We’ve to do our own detective work and analyse crapy pictures, so that WE can inform these legal stumps what is actually on them. Who had to get involved to tell us that Horn was LYING. A gun expert, who explained the wimpiness of a .25 calibre bullet, the difference in a hollow point, and why Grandpa’s gun was different than the one in TA’s closet. Now tell me _ HOW MUCH DID IT COST for us to find that information from an expert gun enthusiast. Who’s information was more reliable in the end _ the greedy State’s, or the gift from a hobby specialist eager to share his knowledge.

      PLEASE, I hope out team can stay our from under the train by avoiding the “System.”
      Remember, Jodi needs to remain uncommited until she gets the full picture of what is available as her path to freedom. Let’s see how far we can progress during this 45 day hiatis JSS probably giving us.
      For some reason I have a suspicion that Alan has a lot that he can suggest.

      I did read those Arizona Rev Statutes that someone posted. It was pretty darn simple to see that we have been led around by the nose to our own detriment.

      My conscience compels me to disclose that, although Nurmi did pull magic out of the had in delivering his closing argument. I especially appreciated his grace and dignity in avoiding using blame. It is more obvious, that there is blame to go around when it is not pounded over one’s head.

      But that’s it. That is all I can say about what he has done to Jodi as her so-called defense attorney. Going forward, I do not trust him, I think it is more just his being selfish and lazy, than a case of malfeasance such as Martinez, Horne, Flores, Stephens. As for Jennifer, I just don’t know. I think it’s a case that God is just not finished with her yet. But as a former teacher, an F is the automatic grade for any body going before a group they must educate and persuade, without bothering to create charts, graphs, propped on easels, the who visuals show. Think of Geffner’s effectiveness, and Alyce’s.
      **CAUTION: I read on one of these programs, that if you already have an attorney, you cannot be eligible for the program. The puts Jodi in a unique position. For a short window of time, she will be free from the claims of an attorney. I someone talks her into hiring a mouthpiece, the whole potential for getting her free with in weeks, or months at most, will probably fall apart. Good Luck, and may God be with us. Love you all. seabird

  13. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 2m2 minutes ago
    Btw I was told yesterday that Judge Stephens has up to 45 days to sentence #jodiarias if jury is hung.

    She will probably take all 45 of them too!!! 🙁

  14. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 48s49 seconds ago

    Hillary is here too. We usually don’t see the Alexanders in the morning on the 5th floor. #JodiArias

  15. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 2m2 minutes ago

    Another woman who walks in by herself a lot walks in with earphones

  16. Cathy ‏@courtchatter 59s59 seconds ago

    The Alexanders are taking their spot back. They are on the 5th floor. They have not done that in the morning. #jodiarias

    • It was mentioned yesterday Cindy… there was a tweet saying she adjourned her case for the day to deal with the questions from the arias jurors. Martinez also has a case going on.

  17. This business of subjecting the jurors to the press and the family really does not seem necessary. Surely there must be another entrance/exit, with some security guards in place. That would be a nice touch. WTF is wrong with that place?

  18. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 24s25 seconds ago

    Waiting for a verdict or a hung jury in #jodiarias with the hacks in the hall.

  19. Cathy ‏@courtchatter 29s29 seconds ago

    1 journalist walks into the courtroom, Donovan follows,that causes all of us to come in. Then Sandy Arias comes in. Nothing is happening. 🙂

  20. Cathy ‏@courtchatter 17s17 seconds ago

    Judge Stephens is on the bench handling other matters. No other defendants here. Just some atty’s milling about #jodiarias

  21. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 1m1 minute ago

    Media and #jodiarias mom and supporters seated in court. Judge going over other matters. #jodiarias #VerdictWatch #cnn

  22. Katie Conner ‏@KatieJConner 43s44 seconds ago

    #TravisAlexander brother just walked into courtroom. #JodiArias family also here #abc15

  23. Cathy ‏@courtchatter 21s21 seconds ago

    I came back out in the hall. Nothing happening in the courtroom.Some of the Alexander family appear to be content to sit up here. #jodiarias

        • I think it would be a wise idea to put Stephen in handcuffs before the verdict is read if he is going to act out in such a way…. how can they even say that travis was so good when his family shows what he must have been like.

          • Wouldn’t it be the perfect example of irony if he attempted to attack Jodi (without her getting hurt of course) after the jury’s decision is announced? If I was writing/reading a fictional story…that would reveal the true nature of the beast.

  24. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 51s51 seconds ago

    In #JodiArias courtroom. Nothing happening yet. Judge lawyers JodiArias not here. Some family members are.

  25. Good Morning Hoping for a hung jury or one that comes back with life with a change to get out so she can hire experts to find out what happen

  26. Very interesting C. Hughes is not missing any chance of being caught on camera spreading his vile untruths. Promoting his book of lies that is for sale, never missing a golden opportunity to profit off of his dead BFF. That man is despicable. I do hope that he will pay for his involvement in this circus. Always there to self promote. All he cares about is how much money Travis could make him dead or alive. Shameful.

  27. From what I understand is that a HUNG JURY is NOT A VERDICT at all. …A HUNG JURY is HUNG without any official ((written)) votes whatsoever. …It is not 8 to 4, nor is it 4 to 8, nor 1 to 11, nor 11 to 1. … And, it is not 6 to 6. …If anything, it is a vote of ZERO to ZERO, by no official ((written)) voting. …If it is a HUNG JURY it is a total failure of the court to prove anything more than it proved to the HUNG JURY in the penalty phase of the first trial. …If anything, it is that the sentencing re-trial jury rejects the guilty verdict of the first jury. …More information in the re-trial to prove that the first jury was snookered or tricked by the prosecutor.
    …So, the news media can not truthfully report that there was (for example) more votes for the Death Penalty than for life. …I feel that would be totally untruthful & media bias if they report on the ratio of votes because a HUNG JURY means that it was ((zero to zero)). …((IMHO)).
    …Hopefully we will have a HUNG JURY. …((((JODI))))…

  28. Speaking of Steven:
    “The Arizona Legislature appears headed once again to passing a bill that would allow Arizonans to carry concealed weapons into public buildings.”

  29. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 2m2 minutes ago

    Travis Alexander’s brother and #JodiArias mom in court…no sign of Arias, judge or attorneys.

      • I think he has Anger Management issues. If he doesn’t see a professional, this will ruin his life. He needs help.

      • Either it is because he is antsy and about to boil over the top…or perhaps he knows Jodi is telling the truth about TA’s violence and knows she shouldn’t be sitting there in a DP trial…Could he have been a victim of TA’s abuse just like Jodi was?

        • You know what. . .I believe he has either seen Travis’s behavior or been at the receiving end of his wrath. If you watch him at times he seems to be actually think it all over while the others are busy putting on a drama display or rolling eyes and crying. Hmmmm If he knows anything he should speak up and not be a part of his blood thirsty sisters revenge. It will eventually do them all in.

  30. I watched the first episode of a new tv series called Battle Creek. The monologue at the end of the episode was very powerful. An FBI agent talks to a teen that has killed 2 people and is pointing a gun to another person:

    SECOND CHANCES
    “Our actions don’t define us. Our soul does. We cannot be defined by our mistakes. We cannot let one thing – no matter how horrible – overpower everything else that we do in our life. And the only way to that is to make sure that everything else overpowers that mistake. We have that chance. As long as we’re alive, we have that chance.”

  31. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 3m3 minutes ago
    If the jury comes back deadlocked, we may not be able to air previous testimony until after sentencing. #JodiArias

    Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 31s31 seconds ago
    If it’s deadlocked, it could take up to 90 days for a sentence. #JodiArias

  32. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 16s16 seconds ago

    There’s a different attorney at the prosecution table..it’s possible Judge Stephens is planning to hear other cases this morning. #JodiArias

  33. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago

    Defense could ask for a mitigation hearing before sentencing where #JodiArias’ family could speak as well as Alexanders.

  34. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 1m1 minute ago

    Yup, Judge Stephens working other cases this morning. #JodiArias jury still deliberating.

  35. This tweeted to Scoopy from one of her followers.

    @TrialDiariesJ Have you heard this Jen? Jury was NOT hung, asking for clarification on #5 #6 JSS couldn’t comment so read them the impasse..

          • Here is the list, copied and pasted from another thread:

            Mitigating factor #1: no prior criminal history #JodiArias

            Mitigating factor #2: #jodiArias was just 27 years old at the time of the murder

            mitigating factor #3: #JodiArias is remorseful

            Mitigating factor #4: #jodiArias suffered both physical and emotional abuse as a child

            Mitigating factor #5: #jodiarias suffered both physical and emotional abuse during relationship with #TravisAlexander

            Mitigating factor #6: abusive nature of relationship with TA caused her to suffer extreme emotional distress #jodiArias

            Mitigating factor #7: #JodiArias diagnosed with PTSD

            Mitigating factor #8: #jodiarias diagnosed with borderline personality disorder

            Mitigating Factor #9: #jodiarias psychological make-up couldn’t cope with relationship with #TravisAlexander

    • I would think it would be improper to read the impasse instruction if they hadn’t declared themselves deadlocked. Here’s a tweet (from someone whose name we don’t mention here) and this (from the dark side) is even if they DID say they were hung:

      @xxxxxxxxxfox10 tweeted: Judge pushing jury to reach verdict might be seen on appeal as her advocating for death, because in this case hung=life.

  36. Katie Conner ‏@KatieJConner 2m2 minutes ago

    Judge just left courtroom again #JodiArias #TravisAlexander #abc15

  37. CBS 5 News ‏@CBS5AZ 26s27 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ

    It’s Day 5. Will be interesting to see if any jurors can be swayed one way or another to break the deadlock. #jodiarias @jbarrycbs5

  38. The mitigation hearing before sentencing where Jodi’s mother, father, sister, etc. could speak would be asking JSS to give Jodi a chance to be released at 25 years, wouldn’t it? So with almost 7 years served plus time off for good behavior, she might be released in 15 years or so. Just a thought.

  39. CBS 5 News ‏@CBS5AZ 42s42 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ

    When jurors leave on a break the other jurors aren’t allowed to discuss the case. So what do they talk about?#jodiarias @jbarrycbs5

  40. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 1m1 minute ago

    Jurors back from break. Looks like they stopped by the cafeteria. #jodiarias

  41. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 33s34 seconds ago
    Jurors chatting and smiling as they went back into the deliberation room. #jodiarias

    Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 2m2 minutes ago
    Five jurors just returned after break-chatting and smiling-maybe end in sight #jodiarias #3TVArias

  42. I know I will anger many of you with this statement and I try to bite my tongue more often than you’ll ever know but if there was a god this circus never would have gotten to this point. A real god would know the kind of person Travis really was and we’d be celebrating Jodi being free and a perverted, two-faced, lying, deceiving, pedophile being dead.

    • ♥Your fine Joe. Everyone needs to decide for themselves but what I do know there certainly is a God but unfortunately there is a Devil also. The Devil never sleeps, always on task to gather has many souls as he can for his army against the Lord. As for me it is not hard to believe because the alternative would leave me in an eternity with people just like the Devil himself. . .. My husband used to say, “If they are going to heaven, Hell, I don’t won’t to go with them.” Thankfully he has realized it is better to deal with the evil here on Earth than have them keep us out of Heaven. Don’t let the evil in this world ruin your life in Eternity. The Devil is a sleek deceiving master manipulator and he had his grips on Travis and his friends. I’m thankful Jodi saved herself from the likes of them. God has a plan for Jodi and we don’t always understand but I have often wondered if it wasn’t to expose the Mormon/LDS Church for the cult it appears to be. The Mormons are powerful and so is the Devil. In my thinking, they are hand in hand. Whether you believe in God or not you are still important to me and especially to Jodi and her family.

    • Joe, I googled and read the story of biblical man named Job the other day. Even if you are not religious, it may help you see things in a different perspective. I am not religious. It was a narrative explanation that I read. Mind you, I am NOT, by ANY means trying to promote any religion or push ANY god on you…just was interesting to get a glimpse into why people might say, “God’s purposes don’t always agree with ours”. 😀

    • Joe, may I offer this,
      While I understand what you are saying, I could never doubt the Plan that God has for Jodi or any of us.
      Our inability to understand the “WHY does God allow this to happen” is our compassion for Jodi due to the “Actions of those doing a job” (ie prosecutor, witnesses, judge, lawyers) and the injustice of a “bad job at that” IMO.
      You may find it surprising that I have questioned this in my prayers. I asked for guidance from God to understand.
      Weird as this may sound, when I read your comment, my immediate thought was WOW your question/comment goes to my prayers last night in my asking Why. In my prayers I said “really because of the “issues” of others (prosecutor, judge, some of the witnesses; “Really does Jodi not get a break in her situation?” ‘Really, can the prosecutor be the way he is and Jodi not get a break in her situation”? Really, can the Judge make the decisions that she has made in this trial against Jodi and Jodi not get a break in her situation”? “Jodi is a child of God, doesn’t she get a break in her situation?” “Does it come down to “a win for those people in this trial (prosecutor, judge ect) and a loss for Jodi and her lawyers?”
      I do not believe God will allow this to happen. We as human beings have feelings and can not grasp the Why’s. The answer to them, for us, seems simple to us. God has human feelings too. He will guide Jodi & team in this ordeal. We may have to wait for our satisfaction of the answers. WE HAVE TO PRAY, AND LOVE GOD AND JODI AND HER FAMILY. We even have to pray and love the victims in this case.
      I thank you for your comment Joe. It has put a light in my thinking and now I am sure that I prayed the right things last night. God Bless you. GOD HAS JODI’S BACK. HE IS WITH HER ALL THE WAY.
      Prayers still on my heart today for all.
      God Bless everyone.

    • Joe, I am hoping and praying that Jodi will go the route of the Innocence Project in Arizona, and stay as far away from any lawyers as possible. It sounds like these lawyers jump straight to the notion of lawyers being necessary. The tell us we need to expect it to take 20 years to get to appeals. Does that sound like a good idea to you. Why would it take that long, we already have all the evidence we need along with the arguments to back it up. You are right about it being time to get things lined up with the Innocence Project, and get educated on what can be expected, and how long it will take. I’d like to see a committee from SJ’s home away from home start lining up and staffing (from our own eager, motivated, brilliant members, committees to keep the ball rolling.

      Do you know that Jade, for instance has created a 39 page defence for all of the evidentiary issues in Jodi’s case. It is called “The Emmaculate Deception Exposed. and it’s posted right now, right her on this website. Jade has maticulously defeated every falacy the crooked prosecutor tried to pawn off on Jodi’s case: Martines, Horne, and Flores’ lies are all defeated.. All you need to use a case like that in court is a couple of very large easles, with charts and graphs on flannel board and an effective presenter to serve as educator and motivator to explain each aspect of the case using the arguments they’ve already written. We have that document at our disposal, courtesy of Jade’s hard work. And this did not cost a million dollars. There are several others, but unlike the Circus trial, these people are producing quality, effective work out of love. Justiceforusall has also produced sound analysis to back up the evidence in Jodi’s case, and to dis-prove Juan’s fairy tails. I think his is called “An Argument for Reasonable Doubt.” Again the cost is love, and the product cannot be rivaled by that of a self-absorbed indifferent lawyer.’ The Innocence Project is based out of NAU in Arizona. Those folks do investigation. Did our lawyers do competent investigation. Those folks will probably include the defendant in their own case, like they’re supposed to do.
      Jodi’s lawyer instructed his secretary to hang up on Jodi and not to take any messages. In her letter begging to have him taken off her case, she disclosed that he would block her from communicating for four months at a time, up to fourteen months when she could not discuss her case with him and was in the dark about where it stood. I don’t believe their plan depends on them conditioning a defendant to expect it to be normal to wait 20 years to get an appeal. That is exactly what the expensive lawyers peddle, though. And you’re supposed to feel lucky. HELL NO !

  43. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 5m5 minutes ago

    Maria just left, gave Jodi’s mom a hug before leaving courtroom. Judge Stephens currently going over another case. #jodiarias #VerdictWatch

  44. has anyone thought that maybe the juries that are apposed to death are trying to convince the others to vote with them because otherwise there is always the chance that JSS could give jodi life with parole after 25 years

  45. Good morning, cyber family!!!!

    I MADE IT! I’m back early from work, yay! haven’t had time to read up ^^^^

    Praying…..Let’s hope today is the day.

  46. Does anyone know a site that explains/discusses “life with a chance of release after serving 25 years?” I’m losing faith in Google, Yahoo and all the other g-d search engines. Looking for a discussion of this issue, not a 2-line explanation. Thanks.

  47. I’m really surprised that JSS hasn’t closed the courtroom… Does seem odd to anyone else??? Oh I’m happy that Jodi’s family has a places to sit…away from the media and…the family…

  48. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 3m3 minutes ago
    Eight jurors just left the deliberation room. Straight faces, no talking. #jodiarias

    • Are these jurors just in and out of the deliberation room all day? Do they have ants in the pants or something? Sit down and deliberate FFS! Get it done already!

      • They do come and go way too often. Probably smokers. Or maybe it’s getting really heated/hostile in there and they just can’t stand each other and need to get out. They are apparently divided, those 8 seem to belong to one group and the rest to the other. Lifers and deathers maybe???

        • Seemed to me they’d been taking roughly the same breaks they’ve been given from court – and that they don’t all always go.

  49. I pray she gets LWP. He didn’t have to die, but Jodi didn’t deserve to be mind fkd by him. He hid behind his religion and everyone is so blind to what he did to her.

  50. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 21s21 seconds ago

    Eight jurors who left are back, were chatting on their way in. #jodiarias

  51. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 3m3 minutes ago

    Just saw Nurmi walk in…didn’t look like he was in a hurry #JodiArias

      • Yes – they asked what to do if they couldn’t reach a verdict, instead of answering the question Stephens gave them the Allen charge on May 22. May 23 in the afternoon they came back and said they were hung.

  52. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago
    Willmott & Nurmi are here. #JodiArias

    Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 11s11 seconds ago
    #JodiArias defense attorneys now outside locked courtroom.

  53. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 38s39 seconds ago
    #jodiarias mom and supporters returned as well. #VerdictWatch #cnn

    Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 14s15 seconds ago
    Somethings up. Family is heading into courtroom. #JodiArias

  54. If the jury comes back again without a unanimous decision and JSS sends them BACK again I will suspect that she is doing more than her job requires. I will think she is trying to sway/influence/pressure the jury.

  55. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 58s58 seconds ago
    Both families and #jodarias lawyers are here.

    Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 38s38 seconds ago
    Def. Team just arrived-looks like there some gathering before Judge at 1:00-could jurors be finished one way or another?#jodiarias #3tvarias

  56. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 39s39 seconds ago

    Court room locked but Def Team has gone inside #jodiarias #3tvarias

  57. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 2m2 minutes ago

    #JodiArias supporters are arriving. Both Court stenographers walked in a moment ago.

  58. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 1m1 minute ago

    Juan Martines just arrived. Alexander family taken back into victims family room. #JodiArias

  59. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 52s52 seconds ago

    Lawyers and family went into court but we are locked out #jodiarias #3tvarias

  60. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 22s23 seconds ago

    Hearing that Alexander family accompanied by civil attorney today #jodiarias #3tvarias-lots of intrigue

  61. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 17s18 seconds ago

    Secret hearing in #jodiarias Just like old times. Are they discussing escape routes?

  62. CBS 5 News ‏@CBS5AZ 9s10 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ

    The wait goes on. Still get the feeling this thing will wrap up today.All signs point to hung jury but you never know.#jodiarias@jbarrycbs5

  63. Cathy ‏@courtchatter 35s35 seconds ago

    Something happening in closed session/in chambers. The Alexander family is victim room. Likely 1-2 reps with attys. #jodiarias

  64. CBS 5 News ‏@CBS5AZ 1m1 minute ago Phoenix, AZ

    Feels like something will happen soon. Attorneys here. Travis Alexander’s family here. Arias’ mom here. Stay tuned.#jodiarias @jbarrycbs5

  65. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 30s31 seconds ago

    We are all still pressed against the courtroom doors..on the outside #jodiarias #3tvarias

  66. Doxing-Rx ‏@DoxingRx 2m2 minutes ago

    It is true that the Alexander Family Civil Attorney is visiting them today. (he has had civil suit prepared = includes JA Mom) #jodiarias

  67. MaryEllen Resendez ‏@maryellenabc15 1m1 minute ago

    Legal Analyst Hector Diaz @arizwildcatlaw: #TravisAlexander fam bringing civil atty 2#JodiArias ct means poss victim rights issues #abc15

  68. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 48s48 seconds ago

    Large groups have gathered outside the doors….#jodiarias #3tvarias

  69. Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 25s25 seconds ago

    We’re either deadlocked or there could be some more juror issues. #JodiArias

  70. Civil attorney probably means that they plan on taking Arias to civil court for money…however, they can sue till the cows come home but that won’t mean they will be able to collect a penny….you can not recover from folks who are already bankrupt….it is a wast of time and money for the Alexanders to pursue…but in that case let them have at it 🙂 🙂 🙂 bc the only ones it will cost is the Alexanders to pay their ambulance chaser !

    • Not HERE, BB – not in Stephens court.

      If their lawyer is in there arguing in Stephens court it is about their ‘rights’ as the victims in THIS case. Not the civil case.

    • Perhaps their civil attorneys should be checking into all the funds they have been receiving for the past seven years and so should the IRS.

      • Good idea…but if it is Mormon they are exempt from taxes…that conglomeration is under the guise of religion. GMAFB

    • I realize this Journee and BB but my heart is just aching for Jodi and her family. The Alexanders are extremely disturbed people. Evilness oozes from them. . . If there was any doubt to any one about Travis character just look at this family and their behavior. . .that sums them all up. Let this all come to an end before you start trying to suck the life out of someone. They just do not want their gravy train to stop, they might actually have to get a JOB!!! 😯 Let the Mormons take care of them.

  71. They are doing this so that any money jodi’s family had or is donated for the appeals will be immediately garnished towards any civil suits pedos family wins. Would be a smart move to start putting all accounts in a trusted reps name for jodi’s family

  72. Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 2m2 minutes ago
    Another lawyer just showed up for a different case with Judge Stephens. Interested to see if she comes back out. #jodiarias

    Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 1m1 minute ago
    She was kicked out of the courtroom…wonder what’s going on in there. #jodiarias

  73. The Alexander family does not want their time in the spotlight to end. They are eating it up and will keep the attention on them at any cost.
    What a disgusting group of people they are. Juan has taught them well.

  74. Since we are all speculating…perhaps the way the TA clan was hanging around to intimidate the jury after hours has qualified this for mistrial?

  75. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv · 36s37 seconds ago
    Got a couple of phone calls asking me to do Nancy Grace show tonight -I’d rather drag a razor blade over my eyeball #jodiarias #3tvarias

    😆

  76. Wait a minute!!!! Didn’t JSS give the first jury in the GUILT phase an ALLEN CHARGE? …A Dynamite charge & they found her guilty based on the judge’s (((persuasion to find Jodi guilty)))? …But it is NOT LEGAL for a judge in the state of Arizona to give an ALLEN CHARGE??? …((IMHO))…
    …Just because it is all over the news media about the ALLEN CHARGE is approved by the US Supreme Court, has anyone checked to see if it is legal in Arizona??? …Google: allen charge 1896 wiki
    or click on link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_v._United_States_%281896%29
    ……It states: Allen v. United States (1896)
    …Scroll down to: Text of Allen charge
    …”Text of the Allen charge as approved for use in the United States district courts of the Fifth Circuit: ”
    …I clicked on the imbedded link: United States district courts …(of the Fifth Circuit).
    …I found that Arizona is not in the Fifth Circuit.
    …I also found that (my state, Louisiana), and (Arizona) are among those 23 states that have rejected use of the Allen charge.
    …Is it possible that JSS used the Allen charge illegally in the first guilt trial????
    …She may be stupid. ….Who would correct her? …
    …If JSS did not have legality to use the Allen charge in the (((guilt trial))), I think that would be a definite appeal on Jodi’s guilt verdict and she should walk out the front door. …(IMHO)…
    …But maybe I am wrong??? …Maybe the Allen charge is legal in Arizona. …Let’s look into this.

  77. CBS 5 News ‏@CBS5AZ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ

    Even when this is over, it’s not over. If it’s a hung jury, judge still needs to have hearing to determine type of life sentence.#jodiarias

  78. CBS 5 News ‏@CBS5AZ 1m1 minute ago Phoenix, AZ

    If it’s a hung jury, Arias would either get life sentence… Or life sentence with chance for release after 25 years.#jodiarias @jbarrycbs5

  79. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 33s33 seconds ago
    Some 45 minutes behind locked doors-public and media on outside waiting to get in-intrigue & anticipation high #jodiarias #3tvarias

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx2m2 minutes ago
    Court security is now beefed up outside #JodiArias courtroom.

  80. I think Journee was right about a motion KN filed against the Alexander’s. She would have to rule on that before the verdict is read.

    Now with the “beefed up security” it won’t be long….

  81. Congratulations Jodi and Fam!! I cant tell u how relieved I am for the hung jury! I have been rooting for u all along, and honestly, I hope there is some chance that u could even be paroled some day. I was molested for the first four yrs of my life, and I so badly wish someone had gutted my perp before he’d had the chance to destroy our lives! It literally totally and completely destroyed me and left me a shell of a person. Perhaps my words are harsh, and I have no Idea if whatshisname was a chomo, but it is clear that he disrespected the wrong woman, and I hope that society will take this as a lesson as to what happens when you disrespect the woman ur sleeping with! Frankly, to b perfectly honest, I consider church-going to be a symptom of pedophilia, as so many of them hide in the church! Anyway, congrats, and I will hate Nancy Grace forever for her mind- numbingly ignorant comments about u. Keep ur spirits up, Jodi- I cant imagine how tough this has been on you.

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