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365 Comments

  1. Okay so in a text message TA asks Jodi about a ring… she replies don’t worry I have it… he says “I’m not mad it’s cool.” We all know that he paid her sometimes for cleaning his house. How do we know if this was not one of those times and the ring was out for some reason while she was cleaning? Would it be considered stealing if she put it in her pocket intending to put it away when she got to that part of the house? How many of us clean, pick stuff up, pocket it and forget about it, before we ever get to the room it is supposed to be in?

    • Who knows? But it seems the prosecution wanted it out there for the jury to hear…even though the judge said to disregard it, it can’t be unheard. So now they have “secretive, snobby, liar, stalker and theif out there… 🙄

      • The way the tweets read I am not sure if it was the statement JSS was telling the jury to disregard or Nurmi’s statements she was telling the jury to disregard.

    • We know the ring was not stolen; even the email proves that.
      If I remember correctly, we also know that TA did talk about how he wanted to marry Jodi.
      The prosecution relies upon prejudice and innuendo.

      Metaphorically, the diamond ring is such a loaded symbol with damning implications regarding so many things.
      Even though we know Jodi did NOT steal the ring, and the judge said to disregard, we know the potential damage of this false accusation should justify a mis-trial, and Martinez should be charged with prosecutorial misconduct.
      I hope judges from a higher court are paying attention to this trial.
      On a positive note, maybe the jury will see the prosecution’s pattern of manipulating.

    • Okay so I know I missed some stuff and haven’t gone back to read this morning’s tweets yet

      but is that all that was said about a ring? I mean, was it specified WHAT ring it was? I know team Travis has been saying for months that Jodi stole the ring that Travis had bought for Linda Ballard, but is there ANYTHING in those text messages to support that? Could it have been a different ring – like maybe his CTR or something?

  2. Also I don’t understand how an “interview” with an acquaintance/friend/relative by a prosecution “expert” can be considered testimony if the interviewee was not under oath…?

    • Agreed, and the ‘guys and gals’ who hung out at the house on June 9th when the body was found were not under oath. Plus what they were saying was ‘here-say’ to them, and those words should not have ever come into evidence. It was just noted in the Flores Report, not in a statement (at least not to my knowledge).

    • I do not understand that either Dorothy. JM cannot go by the fact that Nurmi and JW had Geffner read affidavits because affidavits have to be signed and sworn to under oath. As far as I am concerned none of this should have been brought up in court without being a sworn affidavit.

  3. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 42s42 seconds ago

    Martinez uttered one sentence, which I didn’t hear, then Nurmi asked to approach. #jodiarias

  4. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 34s 34 seconds ago
    TA told her that he dated Jodi for a few months. Jodi hacked into his facebook, emails, being in his home uninvited #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 38s 39 seconds ago
    Travis said he didn’t want to see Jodi anymore and Jodi was very upset by this
    DeMarte says this is more intrusive behaviors #jodiarias

  5. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 43s43 seconds ago
    DeMarte tells jurors #jodiarias was “intrusive” in relationship-hacking into TA’s Facebook-entering his home uninvited #3tvarias

    Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 20s20 seconds ago
    DeMarte talks about her conversations with Sky Hughes. #jodiarias

  6. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 8s9 seconds ago

    DeMarte says Sky Hughes told her about an incident when she caught #jodiarias listening to a conversation outside of a bathroom door.

  7. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 18s19 seconds ago

    DeMarte says #jodiarias would wait outside a bedroom door while Alexander was inside talking on phone and would follow him around house.

  8. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 31s31 seconds ago

    DeMarte is listing “unwanted behaviors” on the part of #jodiarias vis a vis Travis Alexander.

    • Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 37s38 seconds ago

      Ex 907: Interview with Darryl B: DB was afraid he was getting too involved with #jodiarias

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 33s 33 seconds ago
      Now for Daryl:
      Daryl told Jodi he couldn’t be exclusive with her because of Jack, his son, and Jodi was upset #jodiarias #3tvarias

      • Really .. because during the trial Daryll said he loved her and still loves her, he just didn’t want to get married again.once bitten kind of thing.

      • seriously in that’s why they live together??
        is that why he testified in the trial that he wanted he was going to ask jodi to merry him. Where the fuck is she getting this from?

      • OMG!!! How much twisted evidence will JSS allow? When did Daryll say that? First of all, saying he didnt wanna be exclusive b/c of his son is either creepy (as a sentence) or misleading. he wasn’t exclusive meaning Daruyll was sleeping with others? NO!!!
        FFS, they bought a house together, they lived together!!! The man just didn’t wanna get married again. However, he said if they were stil ltogether he may have asked her to marry him

        LIES!! Everything that comes out of the bitch doctor’s mouth is a lie.

  9. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 32s32 seconds ago
    Nurmi objects. Sidebar #jodiarias

    Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 26s26 seconds ago
    15 #jodiarias

  10. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 25s25 seconds ago
    DeMarte reading a document that indicates that #jodiarias was clinging and needy with ex-boyfriend Daryl Brewer. He was pulling away.

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 45s 46 seconds ago
    JA would continue to show up & call Daryl, she initiated the calls and would travel to see him and ask to do laundry, eat or something else

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 38s 39 seconds ago
    Daryl would turn her down a lot and Jodi would be upset. #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 12s 13 seconds ago
    #jodiarias was always in Daryl’s space and she was needy and whiny. She would use a little girl voice #3tvarias

  11. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 1m1 minute ago

    16 side bars in #jodiarias today-when this is over I’m going to open a lounge called “Side Bar”-Clown Car will need drinks #jodiarias

  12. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
    More intrusive behavior with Matt McCartney. He moved to Crater Lake to get away from #jodiarias, DeMarte says.

    Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 53s53 seconds ago
    DeMarte tells jurors of alleged intrusive & clingy behavior by #jodiarias in her previous relationships #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Matt McCartney- Matt moved because he needed space from Jodi. Jodi was annoyed with Matt and his traits and how he communicated #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Matt tried to break it off with Jodi but Jodi wouldn’t let him and she cried a lot #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 53s 53 seconds ago
    Matt broke off the sex before he moved out. Jodi and Matt always were fighting #jodiarias #3tvarias

    en’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Friends of Matt’s told Jodi about Bianca. Jodi confronted Bianca and Bianca was logical and level headed.#jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 25s 25 seconds ago
    Bianca knew that Matt and Jodi were broke up and they weren’t sexual with each other yet. #jodiarias #3tvarias

  13. All of this is hearsay and not what Darryl Brewer testified to…..these are all unsubstantiated statements made without swearing under penalty of perjury = IRRELEVANT AND PREJUDICIAL !!

  14. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 54s55 seconds ago
    DeMarte: borderlines tend to have very fast attachments to other people. They idealize them — but can turn and devalue them just as quickly

  15. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 18s 18 seconds ago
    Jodi told Sky she knew she’d marry TA right away
    Jodi always talked about Travis in her journals #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 6s 6 seconds ago
    Then #Jodiarias devalued TA by murdering him…
    The memorial and how she was courting another man on the plane ride home #3tvarias

  16. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 43s 44 seconds ago
    Jodi went to see Ryan Burns and move on after she murdered Travis #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 17s 18 seconds ago
    #jodiarias would have had to think TA deserved to be murdered in order to emotionally do all this and act normal #3tvarias

    • She had previous plans to visit Ryan before she was persuaded to come by and visit TA so he could some more sex from her which is all he ever wanted from her……

  17. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 43s43 seconds ago
    Dr. DeMarte #jodiarias’ behavior after she murdered Travis Alexander indicates she believed he deserved to die. #Fox10Phoenix

    Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 12s13 seconds ago
    Dr. DeMarte: #jodiarias was a chameleon

  18. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 22s23 seconds ago

    DeMarte says that #jodiarias friends called her a chameleon. And Arias would change personality depending who she was with.

  19. did totdoc get signed affidavits? did she get this in any form of writing? did she get this information over the phone? did she get this from others??

    come on.. this is such bullcrap

  20. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 15s15 seconds ago
    DeMarte says the “likes” on #jodiarias’ My Space page were identical to those on Alexander’s.

    Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 32s33 seconds ago
    Now DeMarte is talking about TA’s My Space page. Shows how long this trial has been going on. #jodiarias

  21. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 53s 54 seconds ago
    She did this with all her boyfriends from living in a tent to being professional for TA in the beginning #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 54s 54 seconds ago
    Sky said JA would walk around the house reading a bible while kids are running around, people r socializing and it didn’t fit in #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 14s 14 seconds ago
    Sky said once they were all watching MMA (boxing) Jodi said it’s to aggressive for her and she was going to go read her bible #jodiarias

  22. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 15s16 seconds ago

    Prosecution is making much of #jodiarias’ mental illness and behavior defects. But might this persuade a juror to spare her life?

  23. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Maria is sitting with Jodi by the way…comforting her #jodiarias #3tvarias

  24. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 11s 11 seconds ago
    TA in a text tells Chatanya L that Jodi cries a lot and it’s hard to deal with. She was a great girl but they weren’t right for each other

    ^^^Of course he did cause he was trying to get into Chatanya’s pants, ffs!

  25. Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 13s13 seconds ago

    DeMarte basically painting portrait of very “unstable personality”-strong day for prosecution #3tvarias #jodiarias

  26. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 40s 41 seconds ago
    Nurmi needs an approach before the next bomb explodes in this courtroom #jodiarias

    Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 55s55 seconds ago
    17 side bars…surpassed over/under set by Clown Car this morning #jodiarias #3tvarias

  27. I see Jen is enjoying this so much. Lemme remind her how UGLY it is when people are talking shit about you:

    Jen, how did it feel when everyone was calling you the courthouse whore for doing the nasty with the frog? Or are you going to deny having quickies in the broom closet?

  28. If taking an interest in what one’s partner is interested in is a symptom of BPD then we need to stop teaching females to do that. Maybe we should teach them to be more narcissistic and self-centered, just like Travis was.

    • The prosecution twists anything and everything against Jodi. Even the most innocuous, banal, insignificant things.
      I feel so bad for Jodi__ she has to endure all of these people and the claims that completely falsify reality.

  29. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 9s 9 seconds ago
    Text from TA to JA
    It get’s old when you dramatize everything…you moan when you don’t make PC..you hung up on me. Now you’re on your own

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
      Jodi says she will “whatever him in the nose” #jodiarias #3tvarias

      Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
      DeMarte says being dramatic along with anger is part of the Borderline Personality #jodiarias #3tvarias

  30. Because Jodi experienced abuse early on in her life she became a people pleaser who tried to please whoever she was with….this is a sign of her learning how to deal with partners so they would be nice to her and not abuse her….I don’t believe that it is a sign of mental illness….many women suffer this same need to try to please their partners….it is a learned behavior that is common among abused women…….

  31. She is concentrating only on one thing but in order to have BPD you must have five or more of these :
    Diagnostic Criteria
    A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self image and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

    1) Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.

    2) A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

    3) Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

    4) Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating).

    5) Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior

    6) Affective [mood] instability.

    7) Chronic feelings of emptiness.

    8) Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).

    9) Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.

    *Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, published by the American Psychiatric Association

  32. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 11s11 seconds ago
    Borderlines can keep emotions inside and then explode violently, DeMarte says

    Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 27s27 seconds ago
    Borderline personality disorder is one of defense team’s mitigators-so DeMarte may be making case for #jodiarias #3tvarias

  33. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    MMPI- DeMarte gave this test….Jodi feels angry inside often but doesn’t tend to show it. #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 17s 18 seconds ago
    When one does show it it’s seething/ violent outbursts. Happens when they feel criticized & they don’t own it, they say it’s not their fault

  34. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
    Juan puts up the Valentines Day letter from Jodi telling TA her anger is very destructive #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 59s 59 seconds ago
    This behavior she describes is consistent with Borderline Personality #jodiarias #3tvarias

  35. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 41s 42 seconds ago
    #jodiarias experiences anger and it’s harmful to her and others according to Jodi herself #3tvarias

  36. Carolyn Sung ‏@CarolynSungCNN 1m1 minute ago

    Maria De Le Rosa, #jodiarias mitigation specialist has been sitting next to JA since court resumed after lunch.

  37. This is like a soap opera: ending the day with Juan saying he’s done…
    Tomorrow’s episode: Kirk cross examines lil’doc…

  38. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 19s 20 seconds ago
    TA says his ex GF got on FB. To this day she will cry louder and more intense than anything you can imagine over me. #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 9s 10 seconds ago
      I’m afraid she will kill herself-Travis #jodiarias #3tvarias

        • Fuck you Travis, you POS, you LIAR, dance in that hot cauldron now!! I hope you’re enjoying your time IN HELL!!! You worthless scum!

            • Oh trust me, I rarely keep it inwhen it comes to Travis – that’s why haters love to hate me!
              “Do not speak ill of the dead” MY ASS! What if the dead person is a low-life, narcissistic POS just like in this case?

              God may forgive, I am human. I do not. When it comes to such behaviors, that is.
              I am realy angry right now. It’s like a 2013 deja-vu.

  39. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 30s 31 seconds ago
    Regan- She still stalking you?
    TA- Yep #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 9s 10 seconds ago
    Regan- how long ago did you guys break up
    TA- Almost a year. I had to change my password but she figures it out #jodiarias #3tvarias

    ^^^And yet he keeps calling her up and inviting her to his home… new kind of stalking, I guess. GMAFB!

    • People have GOT to realize one simple thing: HE was making all this vile stuff up! So that chicks would flock around him in a “ohhh poor man! his ex is stalking him” kind of way.

      Why isn’t Demarte talking about some of Travis’ patterns???? It is no coincidense he said the EXACT SAME THING ABOUT DEANNA to Jodi: that Deanna was clingy, needy, stalking him, how they had to tiptoe around her so that she wouldn’t have a tantrum……. And so on. FFS, this is elementary asshole behavior. The guy was troubled.

      I feel like screaming……………………………………………………..

    • Right here he just seals the fact that he is a big liar – “almost a year ago” – yeah is this why you kept having sex with her over and over again, you liar…….Nothing else can be trusted out of his corrupted mouth….

  40. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 40s 40 seconds ago
    TA- Yea you will prob get a threatening email from some anonymous person & it will be her. There’s a good chance this will happen #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 49s 49 seconds ago
    Reagan- Thanks for the warning #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 15s 16 seconds ago
    TA- My thing kept signing off and she got my password and kept logging me off over and over. #jodiarias #3tvarias

  41. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 2m 2 minutes ago
    She is crafty, she’s scary, haven’t I told you about her – Travis #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 49s 49 seconds ago
    TA- Now my ex is in my email I think. She’s prob reading this…say Hi Jodi
    Reagan- Hi Jodi…hey we are totally gonna do it #jodiarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 46s 46 seconds ago
    Travis is talking about Jodi slashing his tires and Regan better watch out #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 8s 8 seconds ago
    Moving on….
    Jodi Arias has kicked her mother #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • uhhuh she is saying all these things against Jodi yet Travis says Jodi is a better person than he is… so what does that make him really?

  42. First question from DT should be would you consider a person with BPD to be impulsive? Would they have the ability to premeditate anything? The answer would be NO everything would just be an impulse.

  43. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    Geffner gave Jodi a test 8/2011 and as it relates to anger question 59 has to do with yelling and telling people off, #jodiarias endorsed it

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 48s 48 seconds ago
    Mad and angry inside…Jodi says “often”
    Getting angry about something trivial…Jodi says “often” #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 9s 9 seconds ago
    Borderlines have anger inside and explode and Jodi does this. Jodi also confessed to feeling empty inside #jodiarias #3tvarias

  44. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 9s 10 seconds ago
    Since 1997 in Jodi’s journals she has been suicidal also confirmed by her parents #jodiarias #3tvarias

  45. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 30s 30 seconds ago
    Juan is bringing up transcript of Jodi’s testimony from 2/14 regarding suicide #jodiarias #3tvarias

  46. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 58s 59 seconds ago
    Jodi is talking a lot to Willmott while DeMarte describes her behaviors #jodiarias #3tvarias

  47. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 22s 22 seconds ago
    Juan brings up the “No jury will convict me” #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 30s30 seconds ago

      DeMarte reads #jodiarias testimony that she made “no jury will convict me” remark because she planned suicide.

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 20s 21 seconds ago
      #jodiarias response was she had plans to commit suicide so she was confident no jury would convict her #3tvarias

  48. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 29s29 seconds ago

    But #jodiarias said she didn’t admit suicide plans because “they would have thrown me in a padded cell.”

  49. sad, so many on twitter seem to be happy to hear about problems Jodi had, they seem to forget she is a human with feelings. The past can not be changed, she is taking responsibility, shows remorse and this will haunt her for life, time to leave her alone. Those who wish death really need to re-examine the value of life

    • People who care about Travis can honor him by doing good things in his name. They could create a children’s park, help abused children, etc..
      Doing such things as an affirmation of him will enrich their lives.
      When they claim they are advocating death in his name as a way to provide him justice, that is ignoring the fact that it is their voice, not Travis’s voice.

  50. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    She states she could have said acquit me too but a guard was watching and she didn’t want locked up in a padded cell #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 39s 40 seconds ago
    When you were telling Flores these things in Yreka did you have plans to kill yourself? #jodiarias #3tvarias

  51. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 40s40 seconds ago

    In testimony, #jodiarias said she bought Advil to thin blood in jail and was going to slit her wrists with a razor.

      • Just what you said up a ways. Not free Meditation. They want to paint Jodi as crazy…this is not just mild borderline personality disorder. I don’t know but I’m going with Dr. G.

    • Prosecution is still up right now….they are just trying to paint her as a liar and manipulative person….however, Demarte is giving a lot of stuff the DT can work with here to save Jodi’s life….her mental illness, her so-called violent outbursts and inability to control anger, etc. all can work in favor of mitigation for Jodi…and really plants in this jury’s mind that the killing was not premeditated but more likely heat of passion…I personally don’t believe either of those options…it was self defense all the way if anything….but I am more and more inclined to believe that she didn’t kill him at all…..she shot him but I don’t know about her killing him….too much inconsistent crime scene info and insufficient timeline for her to have killed him….don’t know how or if that will ever be proven, probably not, but it is just a feeling after reviewing everything in this case and all the prosecutorial misconduct, brady violations, perjury, etc….

      • I am a broken record; there is no stated time of death.
        That needs to happen.
        Jade’s ‘block-buster’ photo along with medical examiner and/or Forensic Pathologist shows soooo much.

      • BB You know I agree with you on this. I do think Jodi suffers from PTSD. Perhaps bipolar but on the lower side of the spectrum. But the way they are painting this to the jury…..they are going to question her mental health. I think the DT will play this. How many times has KN said she was mentally I’ll???

        It doesn’t matter that we all think this is not true. What matters is for Jodi not to get the DP. This will get over turned.

  52. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 52s52 seconds ago

    #jodiarias said in testimony being read by DeMarte, that she covered with blankets to keep blood from dropping. Nicked herself and it stung.

  53. Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 28s28 seconds ago

    Dr. DeMarte: “My opinion based on all these symptoms is #jodiarias has borderline personality disorder.”

  54. Ever think that maybe TA told everyone she was a stalker and nasty and all that in case he did something to her he would get away with it?

        • Wow this is good info…you need to send to JW…..it just falls into line with everything we know about the phony manipulative abusive sex deviant/pervert that TA was……

          • In fact we need more witnesses to come forward who really knew about TA’s porn and abusive behavior…people need to start telling the truth about who TA really was…….

    • Debbie, Travis was the spreader of the lies about Jodi’s “behavior” I am certain…it was one of his tactics. I wouldn’t doubt if he was the one who wrote warning emails and slashed his own tires.

    • I believe that Travis had a SEVERE malignant narcissistic personality disorder, and he told people lies about Jodi, mischaracterized and misrepresented Jodi because IT WAS FUN FOR HIM.

      People who are not familiar with severe malignant narcissistic personality disorder have no idea, and would find it absolutely INCREDIBLE to realize how warped the psyche of an m.n. is.
      A malignant narcissist, if given love and kindness by person#1, will have fun telling person #2 a completely opposite reality about #1, and the m.n. will, all the while, fully know he is falsifying the reality of #1. It is a sadistic game for him.
      The m.n. does this because he is inherently sadistic and consumed and motivated by the need for power.
      The m.n. does not think, ” Gee, I appreciate #1 being kind to me”. The m.n. thinks, hmmmm, let me think of how I can set another person against #1 so I can enjoy #1’s pain and #1’s experience of being betrayed.
      And then the m.n. basks in the energetic high from the attention, sympathy of #2 AGAINST #1. Meanwhile, #2 is truly well intentioned and has no idea of the game that is being played.
      The m.n. is fueled by unconscious dynamics and needs to feel a sense of omnipotence. At some point in early childhood the m.n. experienced severe powerlessness, abandonment, rejection, and pain and YEARNING from being unloved.
      And he also experienced never being able to know what was real or not real. Later in life, the m.n. tries to master that dilemma by making sure other people never know what is real or not real, especially in their own reality.
      It is like the m.n. has stepped outside of himself and watches another person embody and enact the internal demons that are really the m.n.’s own demons. He projects it all onto his victim.
      Later in life, the m.n has entirely disassociated himself from the severe pain he earlier experienced.
      Now, he is sadistic with a vengeance.
      The crazy thing is, the m.n. RELISHES seeing his victim yearn for love, and experience the pain of it being taken away. Likewise with humiliation, betrayal, powerlessness etc..
      The m.n. uses his victim as a tape he can play over and over so he can feel a sense of mastery over watching someone believe they are loved, then found they are hated. Watching someone believe they are valued, then watching someone learn they are not valued.
      The m.n. enjoys, needs, to play a game where he makes certain that no one can trust anything.
      There is so much to say about this topic.
      I feel horrified for Jodi, because this, I believe, is the web she has been caught up in, and it is very hard for people on the outside to evaluate the end- results because they can not fathom the TWISTED thinking, means, games and rationale that created those results.
      The m.n.’ s motives are so pathological, so counter- intuitive to why and how a normal person would act; many would never guess the nefarious aims and strategies of such a person.
      They would say why, why would he do or not do that?; that makes no sense etc.. They are confusing an m.n. ‘ s pathological psyche with a normal person’s psyche.
      A normal person would want to fairly and honestly represent a person who loved him.
      But a m.n. is projecting his disavowed suffering and needs onto his victim, enacting a kind of repetition- compulsion, wherein which he, in some bizarre way, tries to master the horrible situation he was in earlier in life.
      The m.n. has a pathological need to be behind the scenes, orchestrating a complicated game where he purposely sets up many people against each other, creates all sorts of factions and triangles, etc..
      So the m.n. delights in seeing people war against each other, betray each other, tell secrets against, be misled by half- truths.
      All of this satisfies an m.n.’s needs for omnipotence, omniscience, grandiosity. Only the m.n. truly knows what is real in his machinations regarding other people.
      Unfortunately, of course the m.n. is completely out of touch with his own reality, otherwise he would not have such pathological motivations.
      The m.n. is not capable of extricating himself from his pathology.
      Malignant narcissistic disorder is diabolical in effect, but that does not mean the person is diabolical. No one makes a conscious decision to be an m.n.; it is the tragic outcome of an injured psyche’s need.
      The deformation is mind- boggling, and what is soooo horrifying for Jodi, is that the handi- work of the m.n. is soooooo hard to detect, and people do not understand that what appears to be evidence against Jodi is not what it appears to be.

      • Totally makes sense and I have always thought that TA had a severe mental disorder or sociopathic personality just like you described….he was certainly a narcississtic personality and he even called himself sociopathic….Thanks for all the information on this subject…….

        • I believe he was sociopathic, and I am in no way attacking him when I say that. His psyche was very damaged, and through no fault of his own.
          Fools like DeMarte are so dangerous because they see everything in terms of black and white, and reduce people to the least common denominator.
          Every person and situation is unique, and every disorder and illness is unique in some way.
          Even sociopaths and psychopaths are not completely their diagnosis.
          And I doubt that there has ever been a case of a person who became sociopathic/ psychopathic, without having first been deeply injured in early childhood. I do not at all agree with the common view that sociopathy/ psychopathy is partially or completely due to genetic causes.
          I really like Patty’s description of DeMarte’s practice of ‘paint- by-numbers’ diagnosing. That is exactly what it is. DeMarte has a long way to go before she is an actual ‘painter’.
          She does not have sufficient experience or insight.

  55. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 33s 33 seconds ago
    I wanted it done, I wanted to be dead by TA’s birthday-jodiarias
    DeMarte says her opinion is JA has Borderline Personality Dis…not PTSD

  56. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
    That was the end of her suicide plan.

    Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 18s19 seconds ago
    19 #jodiarias

  57. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    DeMarte says #jodiarias doesn’t fit the criteria for PTSD #3tvarias #sidebar

  58. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 34s34 seconds ago

    Nurmi asks for a sidebar. Then after a few minutes, Stephens calls recess.

  59. demarte just flushed her future career down the toilet. I hope she’s getting paid well for this testimony.

    This testimony will come back and bite her on her ass: the most biased, hateful, prejudiced testimony ever… coming from a doctor (using the title very lightly).

    She is so ‘off’ in her diagnosis that her credibility went down the drain…

    Shame on you demarte…

  60. It is interesting to note that the questions for PTSD ask you if you noticed changes in the past month. Not three years ago not five years ago but the past month only. For this so called Doctor to dismiss PTSD out of hand is wrong on so many levels.

  61. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 26s26 seconds ago

    DeMarte says that #jodiarias does not meet the criteria for PTSD because she had no trauma and no flashbacks or intrusive thoughts.

  62. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 41s 42 seconds ago
    Demarte is going over PTSD symptoms with jury
    She’s is explaining intrusive thoughts/nightmares/flashbacks #jodiarias #3tvarias

  63. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 11s 11 seconds ago
    DeMarte says Jodi didn’t experience any of these
    It showed she didn’t on the testing #jodiarias #3tvarias

  64. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 59s 59 seconds ago
    #jodiarias was describing positive thoughts with her negative ones and it doesn’t fit
    Jodi’s nightmares were over the trial not the murder

      • and how the fuck does she know is they were because of the trial? You scumbag totdoc…. with lack of experience.

        It was because of the murder….. It’s been stated that she was having nightmares..

        PTSD – example: if you were in a abusive relationship ( physical or verbal) you would or could experience PTSD…. If you were in a serious car wreck you ( could or would experience ) PTSD..It’s something from your past that keeps coming back affecting your life…. She is so fucking stupid.

  65. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 23s 23 seconds ago
    Avoidance- People usually avoid the physical act of things and Jodi didn’t have this symptom #jodiarias #3tvarias

  66. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 59s 60 seconds ago
    The past experts say TA caused JA PTSD and Jodi wouldn’t avoid him which most would do #jodiarias #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 1m 1 minute ago
    #jodiarias talked about him in her journals, attended memorial, and talked to news outlets after the murder #3tvarias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 12s 12 seconds ago
    Jodi then went to the home of Travis Alexander after she murdered him and after the memorial. This shows she wasn’t frightened #jodiarias

  67. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 17s 18 seconds ago
    People with PTSD startle and scan a room a lot to feel safe…Jodi doesn’t meet this #jodiarias #3tvarias

    • She is the only one to say she doesn’t suffer from PTSD. How can she say that she did not suffer a traumatic event? How does she know anything about Jodi after spending 12 icey-bitch hours with her.

      • She knows because she is saying exactly what the Frog has instructed her to say. Probably getting paid big bucks on the side. Wouldn’t it be neat to check her finances during this trial. 😉

          • I’m afraid we would need Jack Bauer for this job and he would have to come out of retirement. WOW I would love to see the Frog up against the likes of True Crusader for Truth! AND, everyone needs to keep in mindaqll of the corruption that has happened all during this trial. We will not forget the Corrupt Prosecutor, the Deceptive Detective Flores and his busy body wife, Dr. Horn, The Hughes and their Mountain of Lies and cover ups, The Roommates and So called Friends of Travis Alexander. The Frog is trying to distract from the actual corruption that they all have been a part of but NO WE WILL NOT FORGET. NEVER! FREE JODI ARIAS ARIZONA!!! YOU BUNCH OF LYING SCUM BAGS!

  68. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 29s 30 seconds ago
    DeMarte didn’t observe any of these behaviors while she interviewed her & she also watched video tapes of Jodi….she doesn’t startle at all

  69. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 17s17 seconds ago

    Martinez is done. Stephens calls on defense to start cross. Nurmi asks to approach.

  70. Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 38s39 seconds ago
    Stephens just sent the #jodiarias jury home.

    Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 19s19 seconds ago
    Stephens is still on the bench.

  71. And the jurors will go home tonight with TotDoc’s words in theri heads. Great………..
    I wish the Defense Team would start with their cross-x even if it was for a few minutes.

    • It was all twisted BS. What the jury will go home with is Jodi has mental health issues.
      Let them ponder that for the night. That plays into Dr. G testimony. PTSD and perhaps bipolar. I think the DT will take care of the other BS. But I want to see in writing that DB said that about Jodi. All the rest should not have been brought up in court. JM was just throwing shit up to see if it stuck. Look at BB’s post and you will understand what I’m saying.

      I think the crap will fly tomorrow. JM is despert and you can tell by how crazy he is acting…

  72. If someone has a moment, I asked a question very near the top of this page – about the ‘ring’?

    If anyone has an answer I would most appreciate it!

      • Journee says:
        February 4, 2015 at 1:22 pm
        Okay so I know I missed some stuff and haven’t gone back to read this morning’s tweets yet

        but is that all that was said about a ring? I mean, was it specified WHAT ring it was? I know team Travis has been saying for months that Jodi stole the ring that Travis had bought for Linda Ballard, but is there ANYTHING in those text messages to support that? Could it have been a different ring – like maybe his CTR or something?

        • I think it was the engagement ring. But I didn’t think Jodi took it from the other trial??
          I don’t remember TA saying it was OK. But he did so what’s the big deal now???

        • I don’t think anything came out today about specifically what ring it was other than it was a diamond ring and apparently TA told Jodi it was okay or “cool” that she had the ring and that Jodi told TA not to worry she would explain or something to that effect….Someone correct me if my memory is wrong…however Demarte said that Jodi “stole” the ring…big mistake on her part as this is a false assertion and in order to say someone stole anything there has to be intent to steal and there was no intent…Demarte blurted out in front of jury and this is a big mistake on her part and could cause a mistrial….

          • And that’s why Nurmi jumped up and objected.
            I get the feeling it must have been the CTR ring and Martinez is twisting everything around to make Jodi look like a thief and a crazy obsessed gf.

            • He (Travis) probably gave it some girl and hadn’t been able to get it back yet, so accused his usual scapegoat, Jodi.

              Or… he didn’t want to give the ring to this gal and…used his usual scapegoat..Jodi.

              In any case, he is the worst I’ve ever heard of…ever….and I have a lot of years to draw from!

        • Thanks, y’all!

          It would be interesting to know whether there is more specific documentation of this ‘incident’ or whatever – whether the ring is ever specifically described or whether this vague exchange has been creatively re-interpreted by the Travi-ban.

          Obviously Travis wasn’t concerned about it.

          • Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 4m4 minutes ago
            DeMarte reads a text between Alexander and #jodiarias referencing a stolen diamond ring. Nurmi objects. Stephens says to disregard remark.

            Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ • 4m4 minutes ago  Phoenix, AZ
            TA- Do you have any idea what happened to that Diamond Ring in my drawer?
            Jodi- What diamond ring? #jodiarias #3tvarias JA- Oh yeah I have it, I will explain, don’t be mad, I’m sure it caused u stress. Please don’t worry TA- I’m not mad, don’t worry #jodiarias

            Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer • 4m4 minutes ago
            Nurmi stands and says “She made a false assertion against my client.” Stephens again tells the jury to disregard. #jodiarias

          • LOL Ray you are so funny. Now that was very sweet of you to do. Joureen I think it is the ring he got for Linda. I know this was brought up in the first trial. But I don’t remember Jodi saying she took it.

  73. Σας ευχαριστώ τόσο της Πανδώρας και η Μαρία για την υπέροχη δουλειά του κρατώντας όλους μας μέχρι σήμερα που τόσο αγαπώ! Ελληνική οικογένεια μου ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
    (((((JODI))))) ♥ ♥

    Ray in Harrisonburg Va.

  74. My first question to demarte would be, “Did you compare any of TA’s correspondence with other women re: Jodi and hi correspondence with Jodi re: other women to see if TA had a clear m.o.? if there was a pattern to HIS storytelling?”
    TA had to make it seem like she was “stalking” him vs. being an invited guest so he could explain away her presence. It is evident that Demarte did not consider that at all. He was an expert fleecer. He played one woman against another…that was how he managed to fool everyone.

  75. I am so glad that the movie “”As the Stomach Turns” is over for the day. It was as painful as a bad stomach ache. Twisting and inventing the facts – that’s what DeM. does for the state and it keeps her employed. I have seen so called professionals or as I would call them “hired guns” like her before. They stay employed by the state for as long as they can do their job. They sure did their best to make Jodi out as the worst kind of woman that has ever existed. They have made her out completely to be the woman in “Fatal Attraction”. Unfortunately, unless the defense can refute DeM. testimony satisfactorily, there will be those who believe her. I just hope there are some that can see through her testimony and with the help of the defense others can see the twisting and manipulation of DeMarte’s testimony. By the way, that picture of DeMarte that was uploaded on various sites yesterday with her eyebrows high on her head makes her look pretty crazy. It looks like she has been trying to look younger or change her look with something….she should have left well enough alone.

  76. Marte – Spanish to English Translation – Babylon
    translation.babylon.com › Spanish Translation
    Translate Marte To English. Online Translation … Spanish English Dictionary (Granada University, Spain), 7.7. (n.) = Mars. … de marte = Martian. Translate the …

    De Marte = Martian. That explains so much. She’s not from this world. (OK, so I’m stretching it a bit but…)

  77. KN will come back at Demarte and destruct her fairy tales about Jodi….There are men on this jury that understand that a guy that is texting/sexting 12 or more women at the same time know that he is a master manipulator and dishonest…so I for one am glad that there are men on this jury bc women unfortunately tend to disbelieve other women who state that they were abused and are far more critical of other women…go figure that…I guess unless they themselves have experienced abuse they just don’t believe it or get it….All of this prejudicial statements today are irrelevant and not given under penalty of perjury so they simply are NOT credible at all…..Demarte comes off as a wet behind the ears Dr. with very little experience if any at all other than in the academic world which IMHO is worthless….Her statement that Jodi “stole” the ring could come back to haunt the prosecution bc those are the types of statements that are extremely damaging to a person’s character and not in accordance with the rules of mitigation and especially since the accusation was completely false. These are the kinds of things that will overturn cases in a heartbeat….we can not depend on JSS to follow the law and mistrial this case so we are left to wait for the appeals…..

    • And TA himself was the source for many of these rumors about Jodi – like the stalking, slashing tires, etc.. TA was the liar and master manipulator, not Jodi….he was stringing multiple women along like beach balls and didn’t care about any of them only his own little dick and where he was going to stick it….he was a pervert and a sexual deviant and a pathological liar………

    • Thank you BB. I think she painted Jodi as crazy. Now I think the DT will run with that one don’t you think?? I think the jury will think about that. I do think that the PTSD might be a sticking point as it was in the 1st. trial. People just can’t get by it not just a vets illness. They are not educated enough I guess. It takes allot of hours with someone to give that diagnosis. Not just a test. She needs to go back to school or better yet lose her license.

    • I am against using experts such as De Mart in a trial. the purpose is to convict someone and
      send them to their death. We heard one side and now we hear another side, lay jurors are
      suppose to set a penalty based on this incomplete testimony.She made Jodi out to be the
      worse thing since Hitler. This should not be the role of the psychologist.

      This jury did not hear Darryl B s testimony. said the complete opposite of what she said.
      This is a game of gotcha.

  78. Just caught up on all the tweets. DM is the worst kind of medical professional, and she has no empathy or understanding of the real world (fine for a man to be texting 12 women!). Plus she does not seem to understand that PTSD can present as BPD during trauma.

  79. If you search the below headline on your browser, you’ll find it really interesting on Jodi’s behalf. I just found this site by accident…but it seems to be a great site for those fighting for Justice & against corruption by those who are supposed to uphold the law.

    Verdict What REALLY Happened in the Jodi Arias Case – Occupy HLN

    & there’s lot of further greater articles for Jodi on same.

    I don’t know what it is, but I couldn’t manage to post a link here, on this site, nor can I copy & paste. Anyone know the reason for this?

    • The Jodi advocacy group at Occupy HLN sort of morphed, jojnjo, set up their own paid membership group, attempted to take over control of the appellate fund, DID take over Jodi’s private Facebook group. Kinda persona non grata around here.

      I don’t know if ADMIN has set it up so no one can post their links over here or not, but I’m sure they’d be quickly removed if you did manage to post them.

      But, FYI, if you don’t know this already – you can’t use right click function to copy/paste here. Have to use menu or keyboard commands to copy links or anything else to this forum.

  80. After reading this entire day of swil, I feel like I’ve been watching the LifeTime movie again.

    I was infuriated and at the same time choking on my food because I was laughing so much. Based on a “true” story? rofl. I am going to email them and tell them they should be arrested for putting out such a maggot-worthy compilation of trash. If you haven’t seen it, it’s on Netflix and it’s funnier than watching the Boom channel cartoons.

    Demarte is a dunce. Listening to her is like walking along behind a manure spreader. I will predict it before it happens–her conceit is comparable to a flea floating down a river with a hard-on and yelling “RAISE THE DRAWBRIDGE.” She’s the flea.

    I hope Nurmi will rip into her like a badger after a dung beetle. She will have a melt-down giving smart alec answers and show herself to be exactly the over inflated windbag she is. With less credentials to criticize a world class psychologist than the mental patients on One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.

    Nurmi, if you don’t get fire in your belly like I have never seen and shred this amateur until she’s like julienne zucchini, you deserve to have your license suspended.

    Don’t bump your head on the clouds coming into the courtroom today Demarte. It might be one of the worst couple days you ever had since you got out of diapers.

    You’re not borderline anything–you’re 100% shithead.

    • You are a true poet, Jade!
      The ‘manure’ line is perfection.

      Demarte is deplorable. It is so disturbing that she can put Jodi’s own family members in a position where their words can be used against her in Martinez’s effort to have Jodi murdered by the state.
      It is monstrous that Demarte and Martinez are exploiting Jodi’s family this way.

    • Jade I have to remember to never drink coffee while reading your post….. Where do you find your words?? Needless to say spot on.

      I have all the faith in the world that KN or even JW come at her with a vengeance. It was like watching a episode of Mean Girls. I’m still trying to understand how what Jodi’s family/friends said in a conversation could be admitted into court. They were not sworn statments. Oh Wait it was JM……It will be interesting to see the jury questions.

      Is all she did was paint a picture of a young woman who has mental health issues. Watch how the DT uses this.
      This so called Dr. Should never be aloud to practice again.

        • jen should do the cross…. unless KN can come up as a raging bull today…. Jen did the cross with totdoc in the guilty phase, so I would assume she will do it today ….. Go Team Jodi…. million prayers for the DT today and all family and friends.

          May the light shine bright in the courtroom today.

  81. Journee any chance your up??? I know we talked about Dr. Karp before but was there a reason ever given why she was dumped from the case?? I know totdoc made reference to her. (not by name). Can you imagine Jodi getting that warm and fuzzy feeling with totdoc?? No wonder Jodi didn’t tell her anything.

  82. Woke up to a ray of sunshine shining in my window, I’ll take that as a good sign. ♥ Praying for JODI, JODI’S Family & Friends, JODI’S Witnesses and the Defense Team! I’m having to remind myself to be patient and this is all in God’s hands. . .The TRUTH will PREVAIL!!! (((((JODI))))

    Romans 1:21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

    • PS Prayers for the Jury also.
      ◄ 1 Corinthians 3:19 ►
      For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness”;

    • R.Love you always have such a up beat post in the morning. I to am seeing a good signs in the sunshine this morning.

      I have faith that Gods plan is in the works. I know he will have Jodi’s guardian angel sitting next to her.

      Yesterday was like watching a teenager talking trash. It reminded me of you said something bad about TA so we are going to trash Jodi. The only difference is the DT spoke facts. Sworn affidavits. Totdoc took bits of coverstations and made them sound factual. I do not believe that is what DB said about Jodi. Jodi’s sisters words I know were taken out of contexts as perhaps was her cousins. Why wasn’t any of this brought out in the 1st trial?? JM has nothing left!!!
      He knows it. So he will continue to throw BS out there with no evidences to back it up!!

      • Cindy,

        I couldn’t agree more with you, that JUAN is trying to throw overcooked spaghetti at the wall to see if it sticks…. Digging up b.s. from childhood friends, give me a break please….. Totdoc really needs to re-access to why she became a psychologist. They are helpers, and their to ” help” not ” destroy ” people who are in need of in a time of a crisis. She is unprofessional, unqualified, unethical, hateful, demeaning, etc….

        Justice will prevail in the end, and then the fat lady will sing her tune for the entire world to know the truth.

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