Jodi Arias Retrial, Day #11 (11/13)

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In an unusually long trial day yesterday, we basically had it confirmed that TA was a lying manipulative & abusive POS… and the Hugheses didn’t fare much better either. Nothing new there really, but the jurors seemed impressed.

From AZ Central:

“In Wednesday’s hearing, Nurmi said that his analysis of the computer was ongoing and that he was not ready for an evidentiary hearing. He asked for two or three days of expert testimony later in the month.

“There is a plethora of evidence being uncovered by the expert,” Nurmi said.

Meanwhile, Judge Sherry Stephens granted Martinez’s motion asking that no witnesses be questioned about pornography on the computer until it is sorted out.

The presence of pornography, especially child pornography, matters because Arias claimed that Alexander was attracted to young boys.

June 19, 2009, is the date that current Arias attorney Kirk Nurmi noted in his motion as the time when the massive deletions took place.

And on that day, Martinez wrote, Arias’ first defense team, Maria Schaffer and Greg Parzych, went to the Mesa Police Department to view “a number of electronic items seized during the investigation, including the victim’s Compaq Presario computer.”

“If the history was altered, it was changed by defense counsel, not the state,” Martinez added.

Martinez was present when the attorneys examined the electronic items, he acknowledged in court.

Schaffer, who has represented many high-profile defendants, including “Serial Shooter” Samuel Dieteman and 1991 “Temple Murderer” Johnathan Doody, told The Arizona Republic that she was “livid” at the allegation, but would not comment further.”

Latest pics from the courtroom, 11/13:

Jodi Arias - 11-13
Jodi Arias & Jennifer Willmott, 11-13
Dr. Fonseca 11-13 jodi arias
Dr. Lucia Fonseca 11-13

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So… Jodi’s own defense team deleted all the child porn from TA’s computer? Ya, that makes sense. Not.

Let’s see what delights Day 11 holds in store. Maybe Pickles might even get around to reading Kirk Nurmi’s Motion to Dismiss sometime between now & Christmas.

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    • Good morning Trixels! congrats on “first”………….Missed it by that much…..maybe tomorrow. 🙂

      Ray in H-burg Va.

    • Congrats on #1 Trixels!
      You win a $5 gift voucher to redeem at Judge Pickles favorite hair salon. Yes, we all know they’re not very good there… but it’s the thought that counts. Enjoy! :mrgreen:

      Team Jodi #WINNING

      • Oh I am green with envy! Trixels! You got an awesome ‘first comment’ gift! Doing your hair at JSS fave hair salon! What else can a person ask for????!!!

        ((((((green with envy!)))))

      • Thank you so much for the gift card! I’m thinking of sticking with the feathered look, as it never goes out of style! Hopefully they will throw in a can of aqua net so I can style my new ‘do.

    • I am so happy to see old posters such as Trixels and Cindy being active again. It’s like a family member coming back home ♥ ♥

      ((((((( TEAM JODI )))))))))

    • Marvelous Trixels! And here I’m the one with my hair sticking straight up!!!! I needed that voucher! 😀
      Tickled you are #1 ! I, too am so thankful to see all of the old posters back. I loved reading all of your posts before I started posting. You all are the BEST! Sending my prayers for JODI as always!!! ♥

  1. I was totally shocked that Stephens didn’t stop the trial until the motion to dismiss was ajudicated .And she hadn’t even HEARD about it? Come on, it was all over the news!!

    I just can’t wait for this catastrophe to get to the appellate court and be reviewed. Poor Jodi, spending the holidays in jail away from her family. She should be out shopping for Thanksgiving dinner or maybe some early Christmas shopping at the mall. Remember her singing O Holy Night? She has the voice of an angel!!
    Travis didn’t appreciate nor deserve her….she was just a free call girl to him while he was looking for a good white Mormon breeder wife. What a shame this all is. :/

    • There is NO WAY that JSS didn’t know about the motion. She needs to win time so she could try and find a way to get her buddy the frog out of this mess he has gotten himself in. See, Frog as caught with his hand in the cookie jar! 😉

      You’re right! Jodi should have been freed A LONG TIME AGO!!!

      SELF DEFENSE IS NOT CONSIDERED A CRIME! All human beings have the right to protect themselves from abusers and attackers!

      ((((Jodi)))) ♥ ♥ ♥

      • I agree, Pandora. It was a delaying tactic by the judge so she & Martinez & Bill Montgomery can figure out what to do with Nurmi’s new information. If they don’t get the DP for Jodi after spending so much of the public’s money, some people are going to be in deep do-do.

    • Travis certainly did NOT deserve her. Jodi is too special.

      In fact, I believe that Travis did not deserve anyone, he was too much of a scumbag. He took advantage of many young women,played with their feelings and thought people (especially women) were there to serve his purposes.
      Isn’t it strange how he obsessed with Mimi Hall JUST because she rejected him? 😉 (BTW,we have an expression here in Greece ” Men are like stamps. The more you spit on them, the more they stick” LMAOOOO!)

        • R,
          You’ve got to get on the honor roll so the “mysterious typo corrector” here does that for you. You’ve done more than enough to be honored that way.

          • That would be stupendous! Unfortunately, I’ve had to go to time out so I’m afraid I’ll have to correct my own typos. . .kind of like ole Dr. Horn.
            PS I never knew it was so much fun to be in trouble though!! Now I know why my twin has had a hard time being GOOD. I might just let her out……. 🙄

  2. Good morning everyone!

    I didn’t expect anything other than Kermit the dick pointing fingers at others and trying to free himself from the massive fuck up he has done. Corruption is corruption Mr. Frog! We know about your past cases. You have been caught multiple times performing prosecutorial misconduct! CHEATING is NOT WINNING, ASSHOLE!

    I find martinez being the most unmoral, unethical prosecutor EVER! He can’t win shit all without cheating. Blaming a colleague with tampering with evidence is a ‘normal’ for martinez. He was present when previous defense team was checking out TA’s computer. And what logic does he base his accusations on? All this pedophilia evidence that was recovered helps Jodi’s case. Why in the world would the defense team want to destroy it?

    The only one that gets damaged by this evidence is the prosecution.

    So Kermit: SUCK IT! Learn to play fair, follow the word of the law and stop with the ridiculous accusations. You are making a fool of yourself even more that you already have and I thought that THAT was not possible! LOWLIFE.

    I HOPE YOU GET DISBARRED you irritating piece of shit! I’m guessing you also cheated your way in getting your diploma. 🙄

  3. Good morning to you all. Thank you for the post JC. I personally would like to apologize for the berating I did yesterday of JSS. We didn’t know that they had discuss the motion that KN had filed. Now I have never professed to be the brightest star in the sky but I have to say that the frogs rebuttal motion (for lack of knowing what it’s called) really shows how he has totally lost it. It reminded me of a 5 year-old. “I didn’t do it, that 1st. defense team did it”. Seriously, seriously? You were right there with them along with how many others?? Well I guess we are back to magic tricks. I’m really beginning to think that there has to be something is in the water down there. What did I miss is all of this? Someone please help me did I read it right??

    • Cindy, hi! The Frog knows that he’s hanging from a thin thread. He has conducted this kind of bullshit in his previous cases and the Supreme Court has their eye on him. He is this close to getting disbarred! If I was him, I’d resign!

      He’s such a joke and has made a mockery of the judicial system. ‘When the hand is rotting, we cut it so it won’t infect the rest of the body.’ Martinez should be cut out of the judicial system… yesterday!

      • I love the way you say things…lol. Well this will be the last of him. I say let him hang himself on this one. I’m sure Jodi will get great pleasure watching him go down. It does not make up for the lost years..but at least she will get this…….

        • I believe Jodi should receive compensation for all of the years the AZ justice system have stolen from her!!! FREE JODI ARIZONA. . .TIC TOC. . .THE MORE YOU PUT IT OFF THE MORE IT WILL COST YOU TAXPAYERS!!! And might I add, rightfully so!!!

          • R. Love I personally just smile every time I see the $$$ add up every day this trial goes on. But the taxes payers are placing the blame on Jodi. Like she has control over the world. How about get your back ends and looking at the person who really has caused this. THE FROG. Over charged a obvious self defense case. All of this for the sake of his ego!!!

    • Twittering has a lot of limitations as a way to convey the news of what is happening in the court room.
      It is easy to draw wrong inferences; a lot of people misunderstood exactly what was the case in regard to the motions.

  4. Ok I’m looking at it a little differently. I say take your time KN. Make sure you have all your “I’s” dotted and “T’s” crossed before nail that little pond sucker.

    Yesterday wasn’t a total loss. The Dr. was doing a great job of explaining what a sick person TA was. I really enjoyed having SH /CH own words shoved up there butts. Ok seriously she was setting the groundwork in a way that the jury understood the dynamics of the relationship. They seem to be really be engaging in what she was saying. Besides the smile on ME.and JA faces was priceless.

    • Yesterday was definitely not a loss. The jurors were listening intently, the Dr seemed to make a connection with them and the foundation to show what a troubled relationship this was and what a troubled man TA was too, was laid.
      I too want Nurmi to be fully prepared for this hearing. Something’s telling we’re bound to hear all kinds of unprecedented CRAP by Martinez! He will attack and try to disclaim all responsibility with God knows what arguments or should I say lies!

      • You can bet that Kermit won’t take this without a lot of kicking and screaming. He will whine and moan about how unfair this is, then he will point fingers, it wasn’t me I had nothing to do with it. You can bet he will throw Flores under the bus and who ever else he can think of to save his own scrawny little ass.

        Sit down shut up and quit trying to kill my friend Jodi!!
        (((((JODI))))) ♥ ♥ ♥

        Ray A. Chastain
        Harrisonburg, Virginia

  5. So was the defense team there on 6/19/2009 to look at the computer and is that why Flores checked it out? If so, during what period of time were they there? And did Martinez just stand there and watch as the defense team supposedly turned on the computer and altered its contents? How long after the defense team left was the computer still in Flores’ possession? (All rhetorical questions.)

  6. I said this before but with the jury hearing all this about Travis it seems even more possible:

    Wouldn’t it be grand if the jury votes unanimously for life because they end up believing she’s actually innocent by virtue of self-defense?

    • Yes on one hand it would but wouldn’t it be absolutely wonderful if they throughout the verdict of the first trial?? I’m not sure if the state of Arizona could foot the bill for another trial… But we all know this is all Jodi’s fault.

    • Brrrrr 🙄 Not ready for winter!!! Where did Fall go? I want Jodi home for Thanksgiving all of this foot dragging is driving me crazy!!!! Jodi has so much time to make up for! COME ON ARIZONA!! ((JODI))

    • Who would have thought on May 8th, 2013 that it would be 1,5 year later and Jodi would still not have been sentenced? This is all so ridiculous! 1,5 year of the media incessantly talking about this trial yet Pickles living in her fantasy world thinking that the new jury pool is not tainted. Pffff….

  7. All I can say is thank goodness that JM and TA’s family were so vengeful full of bloodlust that they insisted on retrying Jodi to try to kill her. If not for that the truth may have taken a much longer time to come out or maybe would never have surfaced. Greed is always a downfall and JM is going down and Jodi is getting out…just the way it should be 🙂

  8. A virus does not magically appear despite the denial from the haters and Samantha Alexander. You have to do something to trigger them. And the odds that it would trigger pedo porn if you were not looking at pedo porn are almost non existent.

    • I agree although I am nowhere near any kind of expert on computers -far from it. The prosecution is grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to deflect the blame. It will not work. The evidence will hopefully come out to prove that it was a purposeful deletion, not just some virus or accident. Although i have been thinking that the first defense team may have been set up by JM and Gloria Esteban by having them be present on that date June 19, 2009 when the computer was looked at? In other words, some how the prosecution knew the porn was on the computer and somehow set up the computer to do some kind of deletion as soon as the computer was turned on with the defense team present? Maybe I am overthinking this….

      • At the very least, here, we have a state’s witness, a member of law enforcement, committing perjury – FOR SURE. Martinez response yesterday states that the computer contained 24 viruses and 17 malware programs. Melendez testified there was no sign of viruses on the computer.

        • Right on, Journee. Juan’s stumbling all over himself. According to him the defense team tampered with the computer right in front of him or, if that doesn’t pass muster then it was a bunch of viruses that the State previously claimed didn’t exist when trying to prove Jodi a liar. I’d like to see him on the stand for 18 days getting grilled by the very likes of himself. “Do you have a memory problem, Mr Martinez? And do you have trouble telling the truth?”

        • Now imagine how Kermit would have reacted had Me;endez been an expert witness for the defense.Martinez would have torn him apart. Yet, Melendez blatantly lied under oath and Kermit just stood there and listened! Grrrrrrr….

        • I just read your posts Journee/Justus, thank you. Ya’ll explained it much better than I was trying to. None of this makes sense at all. Martinez is the liar, always was.

    • You basically have to seek out kiddie porn; it isn’t very easy to find. Downloading the stuff is illegal; you have to notify authorities you have inadvertently downloaded in the off chance it ever comes up.

      The Mormon mob of TA’s friends and associates are finding their effort to scrub TA’s flaws are for naught. The whole reason they came up with a stupid narrative that has been since promoted by the media was to protect one of their own, Travis Alexander, and never mind the fact it was railroading somebody to death row in the process. This was a self-defense case, period. It never should have gone to trial. TA was a woman abuser and a kiddie porn addict. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

  9. Ok I have a legal question. Ok so they throw out the guilty verdict from the trial. I’m going to go down a road less traveled but one that could happen. There is a new trial. What would be the possibility of Jodi being out on bond? I know she could not leave the state of Arizona. If they are worried about a flight risk then put a ankle bracelet on her. I know she has served her time but I do not think she will just walk out a free woman with out another trial. Wishful thinking yes but then we have to face reality. Who knows how long another trial will take?

    • If it is still being refiled as a DP case, then I don’t think she would be out on bond. If it is refiled as a lesser degree of murder or manslaughter, she may have a chance of bond although it would be tough bc of the family and prosecution insistence of no bond…

    • I think I read that her bail was 2 million dollars???_ even though it was formally declared by the court that she was not considered a security risk, and she was not considered a flight risk.
      That absurd amount of bail is unconstitutional, and so is having to be incarcerated for years before she even goes to trial.
      It should not be the case that only people who are wealthy enough can get out of jail/ prison, be able to obtain adequate legal representation, and be in a position ( at least temporarily) where one is able to do the ground- work, research, and consults in order to defend oneself. Very hard to do while incarcerated.
      It’s deplorable that anyone in this country would be impeded in their effort to protect their rights simply because they don’ t have enough money.
      And her bail was likely astronomically higher than most all other cases EVERYWHERE. Why when she wasn’ t even deemed a flight or security risk?

  10. Do we know whether the Hughes ever had physical possession of the computer? I’ve just seen that they messed with his mail and they could do that out on the Internet from any computer if they had his password. And I seem to remember a webmaster involved in getting to his mail which also indicates going directly to the email website.

    • As far as we know, they did not. I, personally, have speculated here that they were in possession of Travis’ REAL computer – that the Deanna Reid computer was a dummy. But you’re right about the emails, they could have been accessed through the webmail account(s) by anyone with the password.

      Perhaps worthy of note: when all this broke the other day, and we were talking about who had the computer on 6/10, I went back and looked at the crime scene pictures. There is no computer on Travis’ desk in those pictures – and those pictures were supposed to have been taken before anyone moved anything at the scene. That’s not to say the computer couldn’t have been elsewhere – someone with Travis’ secrets could reasonably be expected to keep his laptop locked in his bedroom. But it seems like I heard testimony from someone that the computer was in the office – I guess that might just have been a blank filled in by my brain, though.

        • And there a number of supposed crime scene photos in the bathroom in which you can see that items have been moved around. For instance, there are two photos of the area near the scale, one with a towel on the floor and another with it on the towel rack. I think there are similar photos of the sink. Sloppy sloppy police work.

          • Connor explained that, though. She said that when the CSI team first enters a crime scene, before they touch anything, or move anything – before they remove the body, even – they photograph the scene just as it is when they enter, to preserve a record of it – because the marking, photographing and collection of evidence inevitably leads to things getting moved around. Those first ‘for the record’ photos are the crime scene photos you see that have no markers indicating evidence to be collected. The office photos I’m talking about contain no markers.

        • Yes, and that could be why – in my mind at least – there was testimony about the computer being in the office when Travis was found. But maybe it was Mimi? Or Connor? Seemed to me like SOMEONE said Travis’ computer and phone were on the desk.

          • Journeee, re: Laptop in TA’s office, see page 11 of the Flores Report. (There is also mention of forensics of it in the next sentence.)

            • Ok, hmmm… well, maybe the computer wasn’t on the desk. Other surfaces in the room aren’t as easy to see.

              I notice the paragraph before says the phone was also in the office, which I also thought i remembered.

              But what about the roommate that said the phone and CTR ring were in the kitchen all week?

              • In the Flores Report Marie Hall stated that when she entered the house with Michelle Lowery and Dallin Forrest they noticed Travis laptop and cell phpone on the desk in den. . .also there was a white car in driveway.

                • 6:00 pm June 5, 2008 Thurs Enrique said when he got home around 1800 hrs./6 pm that the front door was locked. This was unusual because Travis normally keeps the door unlocked. Enrique noticed the downstairs furniture had been moved and pushed off the tile floor. He noticed the floor cleaner in the middle of the living room floor. He assumed Travis was getting
                  ready to clean the floor. He hung out in his bedroom until his girlfriend, Kim showed up. That were going to to the Temple. Kim told him something about Travis’ CTR ring and watch was sitting on the kitchen counter. This was unusual because he normally doesn’t go anywhere without them. (Flores Page 16)

    • Justus Forusall! You have hit on a valid point, IMO! Has your computer ever been hacked? It really happens! By someone who knows where! First hand experience! Everything the hacker wanted to delete he/she was able to delete.
      CH and SH had everything to gain and nothing to lose (maybe ‘yes’?!) if they were responsible for ANY tampering with TA’s computer contents. HOWEVER, in today’s world the information is still there, somewhere! And computer experts can find it somehow!
      Martinez’ and the scummy couple’s denials give the defense’s expert another angle to investigate! The persecutors are digging themselves a deeper hole. Shh…don’t let them know we know…

      • That still leaves the question of who was on his computer on 6/10?
        I do know that you can remotely get into someone computer. I have had Tec. guys do it before. I can see CH doing something like that.

        Ok who has TA other laptop??

        And what did the residence that bought the house find in the house attic that they gave to Chris to give to the family. You know the same attic that was presumed search

        • Cindy Jewell: Now that is absolutely new to me! I did not know about a second laptop computer.
          The information from this retrial is bringing up a lot of questions that need answering.
          If crime scene photos aren’t accurate it creates the impression that nothing about the investigation is accurate.
          The idea that towels were moved around suggests someone wanted the ‘scene’ to be something it was not.
          If there were TWO computers are they investigating both or was one not found and if not found why wasn’t it found… What is next?

        • Cindy J, …I think that attic, that you mention, (if it is a standard attic with sheetrock & 2x6in beams) would probably also have either blown in, fiberglass insulation, or rolled in, sheet fiberglass insulation layers. …That would be a perfect place for any person (like Travis) to HIDE important or valuable things, under (or inside) insulation in a specific place, known only to him.
          …Because no one (like a burglar) would rummage around through insulation in a hot attic looking for things. … Probably the police DID NOT, & probably the new owners also DID NOT. …They cold probably still have some things of Travis hidden in the insulation in that attic.
          …Supposed the new owners looked again & found some gun cleaning accessories (like a brush) or a collection of (SPENT) shell casings (even just one of any caliber). …Or a gun box or holster or an empty clip, any caliber? …I wonder if the new owners realize how INCREDIBLY VALUABLE that find would be to immediately close the ARIAS case & save Arizona from spending unknown $$MILLIONS of more tax payer $$Dollars?? …That find would be worth more than the house, in my opinion. …! !

  11. Nancy Grace ‏@NancyGraceHLN · 4m4 minutes ago
    Judge is looking over other matters. Willmott & Martinez in court, no Nurmi yet. Travis’ family is entering courtroom. #JodiArias

  12. I have this gut feeling that the DR had ALLOT more answers to our questions. But I also think they will hold them to their chest. Just in case there is a new trial. I wouldn’t think KN would be her layer but if it’s not a capital case I think HE could be her lawyer.
    For starters I would be giving lie detector test every one of his friends. Ok I maybe a bit delusional..just saying…
    KN looks so much healthier…

  13. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 2m2 minutes ago
    Willmott is a white top and black skirt. Nurmi dark gray with light blueberry shirt. #JodiArias

    Apparently, fashion is of the upmost importance to these dim wits!

  14. Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 18s18 seconds ago
    Busy courtroom this morning with other cases. Attorneys all over the place and such. #JodiArias

    Nancy Grace ‏@NancyGraceHLN · 1m1 minute ago
    Nurmi now in court but things are running a little late this morning. #JodiArias

  15. The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 60s60 seconds ago
    #JodiArias wearing gray sweater. Hair down. Looking at her mother and smiling.

    Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq · 1m1 minute ago
    #JodiArias lawyers getting in place. Judge off bench steeling herself for day. Victim’s family here. Jodi mom and 3 others on other side.

  16. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago

    Waiting for the show to begin in the #JodiArias trial. The lawyers are all here but Judge Stephens is off the bench.

  17. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 57s 58 seconds ago

    Stephens enters. “Please be seated,” she says. Without another word, the white noise goes on and the lawyers approach the bench. #JodiArias

  18. William Pitts @william_pitts
    “all rise” and immediate sidebar

    William Pitts @william_pitts
    that literally took three seconds. #JodiArias

  19. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 51s 51 seconds ago

    The jury enters. Stephens calls Dr. Fonseca back to the stand. Nurmi steps up. #JodiArias

  20. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 36s 37 seconds ago

    Yes, we are back to the email thread between Travis Alexander and Chris Hughes. #JodiArias

  21. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 31s 31 seconds ago

    In this episode, Alexander laments the 7 years of ex-girlfriend Deanna’s life which he feels he wasted by not treating her well. #JodiArias

    • So travis treated Deanna badly for 7 yrs and then Jodi…. what a pattern. He literally used all his miserable life pretending that he is someone special and superior to women treating them like shit… OMFG! Karma really got pissed at him!

  22. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Judge Stephens calls the lawyers back to the bench. There was no objection on the table. #JodiArias

  23. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 3m 3 minutes ago

    Now Fonseca reads what Alexander wrote about #JodiArias; whoever gets her will “win the wife lottery.”

  24. Michael Kiefer retweeted
    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 5m 5 minutes ago
    Travis- “I have to separate myself from Deanna to give more to #jodiarias but I haven’t been able to do that” #3TVARIAS

    Michael Kiefer retweeted
    Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 · 5m 5 minutes ago
    I’m struck by the length and emotion of Travis’ confessional emails being read in court by defense witness. #JodiArias

    Michael Kiefer retweeted
    Mike Watkiss @mikewatkiss3tv · 5m 5 minutes ago
    Jurors hear from texts written by TA in which he refers to self as “a bit of a sociopath”-the Jekyll & Hyde theme #JodiArias #3tvarias

  25. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 25s 26 seconds ago

    Nurmi asks if this was a confession. “Objection: leading.” “Overruled.” Fonseca says it is a self admission. #JodiArias

  26. Michael Kiefer retweeted
    Jeffrey Evan Gold @jeffgoldesq · 4m 4 minutes ago

    #JodiArias expert hears no sorrow about Jodi but does about Deanna

  27. Michael Kiefer retweeted
    MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 · 56s 56 seconds ago

    Nurmi points out that #TravisAlexander is admitting love for Deanna Reid while he is dating #JodiArias #abc15

  28. Jen’s Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ
    Nurmi- Is you opinion souly related to the words of a liar? NO.


  29. ” jury listens as Nurmi brings up that Jodi has lied a lot. One juror slightly nods head in agreement. 3-4 taking notes”

  30. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Expert- The emails give a historical perpective on how Travis treated women and their observations before

  31. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 40s 40 seconds ago

    Fonseca says she does not base her opinion solely on what #JodiArias told her, because she changed her story.

  32. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 54s 54 seconds ago

    Nurmi is asking Fonseca about truthfulness to buttress against the coming cross examination about #JodiArias being a liar. Many objections.

  33. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 19s 19 seconds ago

    And a subsequent long sidebar at Nurmi’s request. Stephens tells Fonseca to stop talking when there is an objection. #JodiArias

  34. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom
    Last time JM crossed experts on them using a “liars” words 4 their opinions, this time KN pointing out expert using Hughes words

    • Witness describes TA “he was abusive-he was mean” in treatment of women-email TA once talked about “gutting women” #JodiArias #3tvarias

  35. Exhibit – things #travisalexander wrote himself about his childhood.

    Nurmi passes around ex 733. It is admitted. Nurmi sidles up to get it stapled. SNAP SNAP. #JodiArias

  36. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom
    TA states he was mocked about his appearance in school, that is probably why he always dressed so nice

  37. MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    #TravisAlexander remembers father taking ax to mother’s belongings and mother unloading a revolver on his father’s car

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
      Travis says his mother said horrible, vile things to him and his sisters. He dad was violent #

      • Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom
        DrF explains that you can heal from abuse as a children but you will carrying the scars with you throughout life

        • Ellen Resendez @maryellenabc15
          Fonseca tells jurors #TravisAlexander and siblings endured abuse from their drug addicted mother including beatings

  38. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts
    Fonseca: #TravisAlexander believes he’s not abusive because he’s not as bad as his mother.

    ^^^^ Great point!

  39. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom
    When 1 has to live w/abuse there is a certain level of acceptance of abuse, i.e. they only broke my arm this time so its “ok”

  40. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Nurmi- Travis says everyone on this planet is special

    Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom
    DrF: there is a theme of lack of commitment though he has come a long way, its scary for him to be intimate

  41. Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial 41s41 seconds ago
    Dr. F reviewed a voluminous amount of material. Nurmi calls it a plethora.

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    #Jodiarias has a history of romantic abusive relationships

    • #JodiArias now listening to witness closely as she describes her intimacy issues/abusive relationships. A few jurors taking notes,

  42. William Pitts @william_pitts
    Fonseca talking about #JodiArias first relationship, Bobby Juarez, in high school. Says he was abusive.

    • Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 3m 3 minutes ago

      Fonseca tells jury that #JodiArias first boyfriend when she was 17 was abusive to her. She moved out of family house because of abuse there

  43. I am getting used to Twitter to get “real time” comments. From this group, I can see some people to follow (@william_pitts and @michael_kiefer). I am even following @bethkaras because I am trying to punish myself. :-O I promise I will never follow the “reporters” on HLN like Jane. 🙂

    Are there any other good people to follow on Twitter?

  44. William Pitts @william_pitts
    Fonseca: “where do children learn about love? In the home.” #JodiArias mother was tolerant of abuse by her father. Her mom is not reacting.

    • Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 41s 41 seconds ago

      “Where does a child learn about love? In the home.” Dr. L.C. Miccio-Fonseca on #JodiArias From a bad home, “There is a tolerance for abuse.”

    • Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom
      DrF: people bond over shared experiences, perhaps TA & #JodiArias bonded over their negative childhood experiences

  45. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom
    After hearing the emails btw the Hughes & TA, do you think that TA treated #JodiArias honestly and fairly?

  46. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Expert- It’s hard to leave abusive relationships because it isn’t all bad and people apologize

  47. Monica Lindstrom @monicalindstrom
    DrF seems to be getting a bit frustrated when JM objects during her answers, but she is remaining calm

  48. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 33s 34 seconds ago

    Nurmi is showing selfies of Alexander and #JodiArias on vacations and Martinez objects when he gives locations in questions to Fonseca.

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 48s 48 seconds ago
    Another long sidebar. #JodiArias

  49. William Pitts @william_pitts 1
    stretch break for the jury. can’t leave. 20 mins till lunch but Nurmi’s setting up some equipment. #

  50. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    We have a break. Nurmi is going to play testimony from Dan Freedmans sister

    We are still in session. Nurmi is fiddling around with the next exhibit. #JodiArias is muttering something to Willmott and smiling.

    • I think the most damning thing from Desiree Freeman is her story about their trip to Havasupai. Here’s an excerpt from the “Reasonable Doubt” document:

      “[Desiree] testified she was on a road trip to Havasupai, Arizona with Jodi, Travis and her brother Daniel when at one point during the trip Jodi got out of the car to take photos. When she tried to get back in the car, Travis kept pretending to drive off. When she finally got in the car, Jodi said she didn’t appreciate his joke, and Desiree says Travis reacted in a very shocking way. Desiree said she couldn’t remember exactly what he said, but it wasn’t what he said that was ‘over the top’, it was the way he said it. Desiree said Jodi did not react but she just stared out the window of the car after Travis got mad. Of course there are many who would not consider this abuse, just a joke. But a joke is only funny when both parties consider it funny. Entertaining oneself by creating distress in other people is at the very least borderline pathological. And then to get angry because the butt of your joke doesn’t show appreciation hints at additional pathology.”

  51. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 55s 56 seconds ago

    Looks like Nurmi is going to show testimony of Desiree Freeman from first #JodiArias trial. But first, a sidebar.

  52. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 23s 23 seconds ago

    If memory serves well, this testimony did not go well for the state in the first trial, so we can assume that’s why the sidebar.

  53. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 32s 32 seconds ago

    An announcement from Stephens (long pause): This disc will not go into the jury room at trial’s end and instead will be treated as testimony

  54. William Pitts ‏@william_pitts
    I kid you not, the video seriouosly starts with a sidebar. #JodiArias

    ^^^^^^^^ LMAOOOO!

    William Pitts ‏@william_pitts
    nevermind. They can’t figure out the system. Lunch break till 1 and they’ll figure out the video.

  55. Hey, hey, hey was there some eye rolling going on?? 🙄
    Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial · 9m9 minutes ago
    Jury is excused early while they try to figure out the audio issue. Juan asks for the family of TA to come in side room. #JodiArias

  56. I thought Travis was upset because he broke up with Lisa? Most of the testimony we are hearing about is about his love for and break up with Deanna. Im confused.

    • So far Nurmi has just gone through the Hughes’ email which was written in Jan 2007. Supposedly at that time, TA was in love with Deanna, but certainly not enough to have asked her to marry him in five or six years.

    • After the relationship with Lisa had ended, he wrote in his journal that he missed her. She strongly told him off in a letter, then said on the stand that he improved after that. I think her telling him off was reflective of her religious upbringing, and that he understood whereof she spoke. (She was quite young at the time, much younger than he.) Her rebuke must have really taken him aback and been a fortifying challenge at the time.

  57. The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
    #JodiArias having a conversation with mitigation specialist. Seems lighthearted, Smiling a lot, leaning in very close.

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Jury will only hear direct testimony from Desiree Freeman not cross

    William Pitts @william_pitts
    Desiree Freeman’s videotaped testimony being shown. One juror says she can’t hear the defense questioning

    William Pitts @william_pitts 1
    which sets off a sidebar

  58. William Pitts @william_pitts
    Freeman talking about taking a trip with #JodiArias and #TravisAlexander to Sedona, Grand canyon and Havasupai

  59. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Jury will only hear direct testimony from Desiree Freeman not cross

    William Pitts @william_pitts
    Desiree Freeman’s videotaped testimony being shown. One juror says she can’t hear the defense questioning

    William Pitts @william_pitts 1
    which sets off a sidebar

    William Pitts @william_pitts
    Freeman talking about taking a trip with #JodiArias and #TravisAlexander to Sedona, Grand canyon and Havasupai

  60. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Desiree says Travis and Jodi were affectionate to each other. Travis was very happy to be with Jodi

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Desiree- Travis would hang out with #jodiairas in large group settings. After they broke up Jodi became part of the background

  61. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Desiree is talking about the Havasupai trip. Travis and Jodi were broke up but seemed together. Travis was dating Lisa

    “did travis claim to be a virginn?” Freeman: “yes he did.”

    #TravisAlexander drove up to keep #JodiArias from getting in car as a joke. Jodi didn’t think it was funny.

    Freeman talking about an argument with #JodiArias where #TravisAlexander seemed angrier than he should have been.

    Desiree was shocked at #TravisAlexander response to #JodiArias being mad for him pulling forward after stopping to take pics.

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Desiree says Travis was over the top during argument while Jodi just looked out the window

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiaries
    Sidebar and we are done with video

  62. MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    Technical difficulties with videotaped testimony. #JodiArias atty Kirk Nurmi switches to Dr. Fonseca expert testimony for analysis

  63. MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    Nurmi: Did Dan & Desiree have a window into the inside of the relationship between #JodiArias and #TravisAlexander?

  64. William Pitts @william_pitts
    Martinez objectinng like crazy. Nurmi’s questoning about whether #TravisAlexander adn #JodiArias were hiding sex b/c of religion..

  65. MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15 Fonseca now explaining how #TravisAlexander T-Dog side was sexual, but with the Freeman’s #JodiArias said he tried to be a good guy

  66. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Travis was a different person when he was traveling vs. at home in his element according to expert based on what Desiree said

  67. William Pitts @william_pitts
    Nurmi trying to pin down #TravisAlexander dating someone publicly and keeping #JodiArias on the side

  68. Sorry – putting replies to R Love and whichtrial down here because the conversation is so far above they may not see it.

    In the gallery of crime scene photos you’ll find on this HuffPo page (Jodi’s drivers license is the first photo in the gallery – that’s what you’ll see on the page) photos #56 and #59 are supposedly “entry photos” from TA’s office. 56 is shot from the doorway, and is kinda dark. I saved it to my HD, blew it up, brightened it, and I can’t see a computer on that desk. 59 is a clearer photo of the desk itself, and again, I see no computer.

      • Oh, I know you were. I wasn’t doubting what you said.

        Photos don’t back up what Flores said.

        OR they contradict what Connor said, describing these as entry photos. What would be the point of taking pix of TA’s office after they’d taken evidence from the room? What would be the point of showing such photos in court as OPPOSED to the ACTUAL entry photos, which showed the ACTUAL evidence presumably collected from the scene?

        (unless, of course, the computer was never there to begin with)

      • I don’t either but when were those photos made? They said it was there when they came in the house. Somehow I remember the Cashes stating that they had possession of Travis’s computer and journals. . .is my memory failing me??? Yes or No.

        • Important distinction – FLORES says that they said the computer was there when they came in. Did we hear THEM say it?

          As described by Connor when JM was introducing them into evidence – these were the “entry” photos, the photos made by the CSI team as they enter a crime scene, to record everything precisely the way it was when they found it. These office photos were a part of that first little ‘house tour” as JM and Connor ushered the jury and the spectators into the crime scene.

          So, if those photos of the office were, in fact, made a few days later, after evidence had been carried out of the house – why did JM put THOSE photos in as “entry photos’???

          It’s like more bait and switch crap going on.

          • Your right. In the print out of the Flores Report it states the lap top computer and cell phone were on the desk as M. Hall stated that she and her friends say they saw them. Was that a “typo” on Flores part? LOL

    • Journee, I recall that Jodi said in testimony that TA had two desks in his office. Seems to me I saw a photo of his rectangular desk with a tidier surface than that of these Huffpo #’s 56 and 59.

      Btw, also have not seen a photo of the blinds with blood spatter that EF mentions seeing (in his Report) in the bathroom, (from about waist high to around six feet).

      A couple of other things from the Flores Report:

      Page 16: “[Enrique] also remembered his girlfriend, Kim saying something about Travis’ CTR ring and watch sitting on the kitchen counter.”

      – This ^ looks to be Thursday, the day both Z and E both noticed that the furniture downstairs had been moved. Also, E notices on that day that the dog fence is set up and that the front door is locked for the first time.

      The report also mentions the office doors being closed explaining why Z would unwittingly send TA a text message to a phone sitting unattended inside.

      • And, Z thought he saw Travis Wednesday after he should have made the conference call. Z said he was eating when Travis walked through. Could have been the ghost of Travis’s past leaving, I suppose. But he was having trouble with his dates and times. LOL

        • I think that was Enrique – Flores said Enrique was confused when told they believed Travis died Wednesday the 4th at around 5:30 pm, because Enrique had a specific memory of Travis walking down the stairs between 6 and 6:30, talking on the phone, and Enrique assuming he was on the conference call Travis had mentioned to him that morning.

        • It was E, I believe, who said he saw TA Wed. evening around six PM. Z said the last time he saw him was Thurs AM. Interesting that they agreed about when they saw the living room furniture had moved. Neither one, as far as I’ve seen in the report, moved it back into position, but one of them (Z, I think) says that a few days later it was all moved back.

  69. The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
    #JodiArias whispering with Willmott frequently as Dan Freeman tells about LDS missions and purpose.

  70. Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Finally to the point in the video testimony where Dan explains how he knew TA. Pre Paid Legal. Both mormons.

  71. MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    What a difference in Kirk Nurmi manner of questioning from 2013 to now — much more confident and aggressive now.

  72. Freeman explains that he didn’t originally like Travis Alexander bc he thought he was cocky. Nice thing to admit re: a dead man. #JodiArias

    Dan Freeman said he did not think #JodiArias knew they were coming by to visit. Jodi was surprised when she opened door.

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Jodi was watching the secret. Jodi and Travis went into the back room and Dan feel asleep…The Secret can do this

    William Pitts @william_pitts
    Freeman: “when they were together, to me, they were dating, but there were somme issues they were working out so i didn’t ask questions.”

  73. MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    Freeman says #TravisAlexander had a different demeanor with #JodiArias in private vs. public

  74. MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    Dan Freeman says #TravisAlexander and #JodiArias acted as a couple on their trips “They would tease and play” but not overly expressive

  75. Dan – #JodiArias not brought to certain gatherings with certain friends of #TravisAlexander

    MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    Freeman says #TravisAlexander said he loved #JodiArias but wasn’t sure he wanted to marry her. So he continued dating

  76. LOL, Joe.

    Joseph Santos ‏@JoeSantos5150 5h5 hours ago
    @KradleKat @Heather54213451 You TA fans are just normal mere mortals… Barefoot peasants… We are Gods !

  77. (call off the search team…. he’s back):

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 42s 42 seconds ago

    Just back in #JodiArias courtroom. Kirk Nurmi playing video from 1st trial, friend Dan Freeman talking about Alexander’s temper with Arias.

        • I think he needed help big time. I do get very sad as a mother that these to kids (they are my own kids ages) This should not have happened to either of them. Travis was mentally ill and not one of his friends helped. Poor Jodi God bless her, she tried. She saw the good in him. What a very sad story. I hate what he did to Jodi.. I hate what she let him do to her…
          Now I truly believe that the Dr will be able to explain it to all of us.

          So now I’m personally concerned about Jodi. She is so kind hearted and can find the good in anyone.

          • My kids are the same age also. Another sad thing for Jodi is that while she has been locked away she has not received any kind of therapy or help dealing with the tragedy that she has been through. Jodi really is amazing. She has continued to show a genuine loving and caring attitude towards anyone and everybody. Always thinking of others and how she can help someone else. Jodi should be set free for time served and all of the haters in this mess should move on and try to fix their own pitiful hate filled lives. Travis Alexander needed help but sadly no one cared enough about him to see that he found it. They never really knew the real Travis but Jodi knew him and loved him in spite of himself. Jodi truly was his only friend. I would think that his family could see this for what it truly is. . .Travis abused her and she protected herself. Jodi loved Travis even when his very own family was not there for him.

  78. William Pitts @william_pitts
    Freeman talking about fight between #TravisAlexander and #JodiArias

    Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Dan had to calm everyone down, get them in car and all was good.

    Dan remembers #TravisAlexander having relationship with Lisa & was with her before the trip. They went out to eat on double date. #JodiArias

  79. MaryEllen Resendez @maryellenabc15
    Dan Freeman said #TravisAlexander was interested in Lisa Andrews too and would flirt and joke with her

    William Pitts @william_pitts
    We’ve gone from taped sidebar to real sidebar

    William Pitts @william_pitts
    10 minute recess

  80. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago

    On tape, Freeman talking about Alexander flirting with a woman named Lisa Andrews. Nurmi pressing him on if she’s a girlfriend. #JodiArias

    • Schaffer says that Jodi’s attorneys were there to view all of the evidence. Martinez and/or Flores were there the whole time. Flores provided a power cord for the laptop and turned it on.

      Here’s the deal: The computer was in police custody. That’s WHY the attorneys had to go to Mesa PD to view the evidence. It was the responsibility of the police department to protect the evidence. NONE of the electronics should have been turned on without being hooked up to write-blockers. The attorneys didn’t turn on the laptop. Flores did.

      • The Flores Report is dated August 28, 2008, wherein he writes, “The Mesa Police Computer Forensic Unit determined the last activity on that laptop was on 6-4-08 at 1619 hours. This consisted of email activity.”

        LE no doubt became aware of the computer’s internet history during the initial moments of the investigation, the same way a phone’s last call is immediately checked in an investigation of that kind.

  81. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 32s 33 seconds ago

    Freeman had no idea Alexander was “not living up to the values of the church.” #JodiArias

  82. Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
    Freeman discussing TA #JodiArias Sedona trip. TA flirting w/waitress. Freeman said “But it was none of my business”

  83. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 44s 44 seconds ago

    Interesting seeing the old Nurmi and the new Nurmi in the same courtroom. I wish I could send a video of me to work for a few days.

  84. Dan knew #TravisAlexander was spending time with #JodiArias away from that group of friends. Would both talk to Dan about one another.

    Dan said #jodiarias and Travis spent a lot of time alone together. When they broke up Jodi moved to Cali #3TVARIAS

  85. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Dan doesn’t think a lot of people knew Travis hung out with #jodiarias alone and took trips together

  86. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Freeman called Arias to tell her that Alexander was dead. “She was silent for a moment.” Video testimony from first #JodiArias trial.

  87. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 24s 25 seconds ago

    And we are back in the present moment of #JodiArias, the sequel, with Dr. Fonseca.

  88. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 27s 27 seconds ago

    Fonseca notes that Freeman reinforced the notion of public v private Travis Alexander when #JodiArias is present.

  89. Several jurors taking notes. About half look as if they could take a nap. #JodiArias listening to witness talk.

    Judge Stevens watching jury closely.

    • Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 27s 27 seconds ago

      A spectator was just removed from the #JodiArias courtroom after a phone started playing back what sounded like a recording of something.

      • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ 23s24 seconds ago
        The public gallery got a lashin from the bailiff. Nurmi is still complaining/ruined his mojo #jodiarias #3TVARIAS

  90. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 41s 42 seconds ago

    Nurmi is asking Fonseca about the difference between secrecy and privacy in intimacy. She struggled with the question at first.

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
      Expert- When one is intimate and then doesn’t acknowledge in his environment and community it’s hurtful

      • explaining difference between private and secret. #JodiArias

        Every juror is jotting down notes.

        … And on that note clerk returns and heads to Judge Stephens — but deputy is still out — and there goes the clerk again… #JodiArias

  91. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Testimony is stopped as bailiff approached Judge about the phone going off in the gallery. Back at it

  92. I dont understand this logic

    The supposed file deletion happened before Jodi changed her story, so what would the point be to delete the files as she had not made the abuse/pedophile/sex claims yet?

    I dont know, for me, that gives MORE credence to what Jodi about Travis. She did not know there was porn on that computer. She knew he was having “issues”.

    I believe there was a cover up. There have been many cover ups, and probably more to come. IF what Martinez is now claiming in his answer to Nurmi’s motion is true, where is the report stating this happened? He claims IF it happened, well shouldn’t he, as the head honcho in this case, have known about any destruction of evidence in his case? He claims he was in the room when this “happened”, so did he know “it” happened? He never found out until now that this happened? He answered awfully fast for someone that is not sure what “happened”.

    • As I said above ^

      According to Kiefer’s article, it was actually Flores who supplied the power cord and turned on the laptop. The computer was in police custody, it was the responsibility of the state and the police to protect that evidence. The computer should not have been turned on with being hooked up to a write-blocker, to insure that no changes could be made to it while it was turned on.

      • Even if just turning the computer on triggered some erasure of thousands of records of porn sites visited, someone knew about those sites as of 6/10/2008, someone apparently in or connected to the police department. Who had possession of it that day? If it was in police custody, someone would have needed to check it out in order to maintain chain of custody. Where are those records and where is that person? (Maybe that’s all part of the evidence Nurmi will be presenting in due time.)

        • yes –

          I don’t have someone who’ll go into my posts and fix my typos like SOME people around here!

          thanks, whichtrial – that is what I meant!

  93. Haven;t been on this site in quite awhile. Keeping fingers crossed for Jodi! On a side note, I loved the movie Gone Girl and especially the way there was a Nancy Grace type character who was made to look like a complete buffoon — just like real life!

  94. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 49s 49 seconds ago

    Now Fonseca is reading an angry email from Lisa Andrews about Alexander going too far with her. She felt “used and dirty.” #JodiArias

  95. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Juror 3 a female has been writing a dang book since day 1. She doesn’t even look up much

  96. Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago

    This witness is literally accusing TA of pursuing women in the church that were in “a certain position.” #JodiArias

  97. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer
    My prediction is that Nurmi will keep Fonseca on stand until court ends at four. Martinez won’t be able to cross until next week at earliest

  98. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 1m 1 minute ago
    The Lisa Andrews email: “I asked you several times not to grab my butt, but you persisted… You’ll get your turn one day.”

    Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 7s 8 seconds ago
    Fonseca repeats the butt-grab line: “What is it about no that he’s not getting?” #JodiArias

  99. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Lisa- You’re trying to mold me into someone you want me to be. Personal development is great but it’s too much for me

  100. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 45s 45 seconds ago
    “I’m trying to explain, not to excuse, the relationship.” Fonseca on Travis Alexander. #JodiArias

    • Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
      Expert- I’m not diagnosing Travis just looking at a pattern of a guy managing his sexual energy

  101. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Lisa is telling Travis he was acting like she should b grateful he took off work & took her on a trip. It was noticed by others

  102. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 6s 7 seconds ago

    Lisa Andrews, as read by Fonseca, criticizing Alexander’s behavior–talking on phone too much, not turning down TV, too much making out.

  103. Jen’s Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
    Nurmi says Travis made Lisa feel bad about wanting to be a teacher. Lisa didn’t see Travis being the father of her kids

  104. Michael Kiefer retweeted
    Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 · 12m 12 minutes ago

    Woman taken fr/ctroom after video on her cell phone plays. Court thought she was taping trial, but she’d clicked Facebook video #JodiArias

  105. I gotta hand it to Scoopy –

    of all the tweeters I’ve been watching, she is the most diligent at delivering the blow by blow – others seem so bored to be there.

    Mostly Jen’s too busy staying on top of what’s happening to snark.

  106. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 55s 55 seconds ago

    “You did not tell me Jodi would be going on this little trip with you.” Lisa Andrews to Travis Alexander. Ouch. This sets the tone of email

  107. Michael Kiefer retweeted
    William Pitts @william_pitts · 2m 2 minutes ago

    Fonseca: “you don’t like knowing someone’s cheating on you, it doesn’t feel good.” pretty sure the jury knows that. #JodiArias

  108. William Pitts @william_pitts
    Fonseca: #TravisAlexander was having sex with #JodiArias while discussing marriage with Lisa Andrews

    • One thing that I see happening in this retrial is that the narrative is being made clear for the jurors as to when exactly TA was seeing Lisa, how he kept Jodi in the background, and how Deanna was very present in his life but compartmentalized when he was more openly seeing Jodi. This was probably a jumble to anyone, (including the jurors) who did not review the trial footage of last year.

      I recall even Nurmi being confused at one point, when he announced Jodi’s boyfriends out of order and she was forced to correct him from the stand. He obviously decided to sit down and figure out how to reveal the various relationships with more context for this court because the fact that TA’s behavior toward Jodi was simply part of an established pattern was rejected by folks who wanted to believe the prosecutor’s fantasy that Jodi’s witchery had initiated all of his deceit.

      That some of this testimony is only being allowed NOW is shameful and so unfair to Jodi. It is not only mitigating, it could have changed the verdict.

  109. Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 33s 33 seconds ago

    We are done with testimony for the day in #JodiArias. Fonseca still on stand. Sidebar.

        • This is such a sad story. My heart aches for Jodi reliving every minute of this. He was such a sick person. Jodi tired to help him.

          We all need a villain in a story. But this is a tragedy. I still do not believe that Jodi killed Travis.

          JM is the villain in the story. He couldn’t look at it as it was.

          I’m sorry I’m thinking like a mom.

          • No need to apologize, Cindy. This is definitely a tragedy compounded by misguided individuals wanting to turn it into a revenge saga. I feel for Jodi and for both families. This is what keeps many of us going: The original trial should have been a search for truth, not a vehicle for retribution. It hurts even more to see so many people who cared about Travis be misled about what happened in this relationship. Jodi saw who he was completely and loved him anyway.

  110. I thought I posted this morning but I don’t see my comment! Catching up now on everything. I read earlier that someone was sleeping in the gallery? Jeez.

    • According to whomever was posting as WildAboutTrial this afternoon.

      Who’s to say the guy wasn’t just listening better with his eyes closed. I’m sure he didn’t wait in line to sit in a chair that everyone complains about so he could take a nap.

  111. I don’t really care what folks in the courtroom are wearing, but I find I do miss the visuals.

    For example, when the tweeters were describing Dr. Fonseca, as 60s, grey hair, etc. – did anyone else picture someone kind of plain and frumpy?

    I’ve finally realized who she actually looks like though: Rita Moreno. right? google for images and look at the pix of her greying.

    I bet the jurors liked her right away.

  112. This may have been answered already, but WHY didn’t they read these e-mails in the first trial? It certainly
    would have helped Jodi and the jury would have heard the Hughes’s and others lies.
    Did the state keep them from reading those?
    Seems like they are getting by criminal acts all of the time, and this judge knows it.
    Someone should come in from the Supreme Court and have their cover ups and lies all open to the public now.
    Of course after they find out who all was involved and all of those that they were covering for.

      • Wasn’t this a pretty serious offence by jm in the first trial?
        I thought if they hid something that they knew from the defense, it would be.
        Talking about it in the first trial, it looks like the door was opened already and didn’t Sky testify, but
        not Chris?
        So, it woud have proven Jodi right and they knew it so wouldn’t allow it
        The jury, as usual didn’t hear about the real Travis.
        Wouldn’t it have been ok for others to know he was an asshole?
        Instead just because the person is dead, they shouldn’t say anything bad?
        But, probably if he had killed Jodi, she would have been the bad one?
        I get so confused as to what is right and what is wrong.
        Just let the jury hear it all and let them judge.
        The outcome IF they were serquestered and IF the Travis family had been told to act like they were supposed to, it may have been different.
        Also, I believe if they were sequestered, it wouldn’t last until Christmas.

    • JM’s objection to them was here say. With ALV, he made that objection almost every sentence that she tried to convey. The only way that the defence could have admitted them would have been to call the Hughes to the stand. We all know they would go to any lengths to have their vengeance for their T-Dogg. The prosecutor did not call them, most probably, because then the emails would have been admissible. These were his best friends and his boss and they were not called. Telling IMO.

      • I guess it was back during jury selection when someone asked Lindstrom whether it looked like one or more of the ‘pedophile letters’ were going to be admitted this time. She said it appeared to be so, and that the reason was that anything the expert uses to form their opinion is admissible in this phase.

        I gather the standards must be different – what is not allowed as ‘proof’ of anything in the guilt phase might be allowed as the basis for an opinion in the mitigation phase.

        Because ALV was using all the same written materials to form her opinion but was extremely restricted in how she could refer to the materials.

        • That would explain why toadie isn’t jumping up and down every few minutes with an objection. It must be so much easier for the jurors to follow the evidence without his constant interruptions.

        • Seems to me that there were several more emails allowed in this trial than before…probably because of a different standard for this phase. But if anyone is positive that that’s not the case, please let me know. TIA.

  113. It’s not often that I address TRAVIBANS but this was too funny to let go. A hater decided to visit our site and among other idiocies IT (the Traviban) wrote “…!!! I can’t believe all the things I’m reading on this page. I accidentally came upon this page, awaiting to see if Jodi is getting life or death. Pray the jury isn’t anything like the people writing on this page. We must not have watched the same trail….”

    Let me help you out here honey: No, we were not watching the same TRAIL!!! We were watching a TRIAL. Now if you got lost and sat staring at a TRAIL…. either you were ‘baked’ or plain stupid!

    And this is for all TRAVIBANS that think they could come to our site and insult Jodi, her family, the defense team and her supporters:

    Blow me!
    Please, I’m seriously interested: Tell me how all you Travibans plan on spending your time when the trial is over? I hear pulling wings off of flies is a rewarding pastime. Look into it.

    All my best— Rasna Admin – TEAM JODI.

    P.S. This is a warning: Next time a ‘Smart Alec’ TRAVIBAN comes and posts at our site hoping that his/her comment will be published, I personally will paste their e-mail and IP address here on the public page. How’s that for nice?


      Go RASNA!!! I LOVE the P.S.!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

      I feel so sorry for the next innocent victim that the TRAVIBAN will choose to attack when the trial is over!!! I honestly hope they choose to pull wings off of flies instead!!! LOL!!!

      (((((RASNA))))) ♥ ♥ ♥

      • Too funny. . .maybe that is how all of the pedo and porn sites got erased “just by accident” from Travis computer. It is so sad this person is just like Travis. . .stumbling around through cyber space! Maybe they were searching for porn too.
        Thanks for protecting Jodi, RASNA!!! SMH

    • This person “accidentally” came upon this page? Where the f#@k have they been, under a rock? Maybe they’ve had their head up their ass for the last few years. I’ve never “accidentally” found myself on a web page before. Usually one has to physically click on a link or something to bring themselves to a page. I’m not sure how this person “accidentally” found themselves here but I’m sure it won’t be an accident when his or her ass is promptly booted off this page. So is the “wow??!!!” at the beginning a question or a statement? Is it wow? or wow! – I’m confused. I guess I better go watch a trail. It’s so enlightening when these pathetic dipshits pop in.

  114. Here in the US we have a family and prosecutor that want death for an innocent woman SO BAD they can taste it!!! But in FINLAND they are trying to OVERTURN the death sentence for a Somali man who made Finland his permanent residence!!! Check it out!

    “Finland categorically opposes the death penalty. We consider it a flagrant violation of human rights. We’re obliged by law to try to prevent the execution of the sentence and to overturn the verdict.”

    I’m so proud of my Finnish heritage!!!!

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